WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:00.680 All right. 2 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.120 We're live today at beer Bar right downtown Salt Lake City, Utah, 3 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:07.080 at one sixty one East two hundred South. We are 4 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:11.519 giving away VIP passes for our ESPN seven hundred Ultimate 5 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.240 Tailgate experience prior to the Utah TCU game on Saturday. 6 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:18.760 Porter will be doing the Utah pregame show live from 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:20.600 the tailgate starting at four thirty. 8 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:24.120 All rolled by as well. It's a lot of fun, man. 9 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.879 We have free food from Wingers, we have spirits from 10 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.160 Clearwater to Stilling, and we're giving away two passes per 11 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.079 person while supplies last. Just for stopping in and saying Hi. 12 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.399 Here at beer Bar one sixty one East two hundred South, 13 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:40.960 right downtown Salt Lake. You can see every RSL match here. 14 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:43.640 It's the only sports bar in Salt Lake with no 15 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.159 blackouts because they do have Apple TV. Our next guest 16 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.640 likes beer and soccer, yet he's not here at beer Bar, 17 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.799 which hurts my feelings since Andy Larsen from the Tribune, 18 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:55.719 where are you, dude? 19 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.920 Yeah, that's there. I would have liked to come out, 20 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.039 but I had a meeting, three o'clock meeting and a 21 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.159 six o'clock meeting, and I can't I had to do 22 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:05.640 this one from hom So sorry about that. 23 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.200 Were your meetings of juniors or what's the deal? 24 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:11.519 Hey, that's only on Mondays and Friday? 25 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.200 Okay, fair enough, fair enough? 26 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:14.480 All right? 27 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.519 Andy, safe to say that the preseason has been somewhat 28 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:21.280 encouraging for the Utah Jazz for a team that's not 29 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.519 getting a lot of buzz both locally and nationally. 30 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.239 Yeah, last night was a fun game. 31 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.319 What has stood out most to you throughout the preseason 32 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.319 which will wrap up coming up on Friday. 33 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:34.159 Yeah, you know, I think there's a few things. I 34 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:37.719 think one, the defense does look better right now, and 35 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.200 it's start to know how much that is preseason teams 36 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.799 thinking it easy on the Jazz. You know who's out 37 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.760 there on the floor. Frankly, they're playing a lot less 38 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.920 John Collins and a lot more Walker Kessler. But that 39 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.719 being said, they're sixteenth in the league defensively through the preseason, 40 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:56.319 which is a lot better than twenty ninth or thirtieth 41 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.159 that they were last season. So, I you know, I 42 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:01.719 think they've taken a up there on transition D and 43 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:05.560 really kind of staying and finishing throughout a play. And 44 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.719 then you know, I think there have been some kind 45 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.919 of promising steps forward taken from the young guys. I mean, 46 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.000 I think Kanty George has looked really good. I think 47 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.479 Taylor Hendrick looks significantly bigger and maybe ready to contribute 48 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.319 kind of at a role player level, not as a 49 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.840 star or anything, but at a higher level than he 50 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.759 did last year. And you know, Cody Williams looks like 51 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.759 a pretty good kind of fit in right now kind 52 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.400 of player and we'll see obviously how he develops, but 53 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:33.319 I don't think he's taking anything off the table right now, 54 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.280 which is pretty rare as a rookie. So you know, 55 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.919 I think there's some some good stuff going on here 56 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:42.080 that maybe says, hey, this isn't a fifteen to twenty 57 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.879 win team, this is a thirty win team. And you know, 58 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:48.759 again we'll see what that means if preseason is real. 59 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.599 But the I would say they've played better than expected 60 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:52.000 so far. 61 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:55.639 So what have you You referenced Walker playing a little bit 62 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:59.159 more than John and I hope that continues, but from 63 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:03.280 both the starting line up and benchmit a distribution. Any 64 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:07.280 surprises about Will's preferred rotation so far? And what are 65 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.639 your main takeaways from the players that we're actually gonna 66 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:11.159 see Yeah. 67 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.240 I mean, I think the takeaway is that there is 68 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.520 like a real youth movement here, but they're not going 69 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.960 necessarily all the way in right like, so you know 70 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.080 that they it does seem like they're going to play 71 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.319 they call your over, Petty Mills. It does look like 72 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:28.439 that like me and Michale you Kin grew you Banks 73 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:32.360 aren't going to play right away. I do think that 74 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.599 it's notable that you know, like Bright sent the bas 75 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.400 and the rotation, even though he hasn't looked brilliant, you know, 76 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.280 I think there is a lot of youth there, but 77 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.240 there's still you know, there's still kind of the four 78 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.840 veterans on the roster who do kind of demand playing time. 79 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.199 Obviously Lowry's one of them in part of the future core, 80 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:53.000 but Colin Sexton, John Collins, and Jordan Clarkson are guys 81 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.719 that probably don't match up with that timeline and probably 82 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.599 they would like to move on from at some point. 83 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:02.159 And so I think that's the question we'll see during 84 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.560 the regular season is like can they trade them or 85 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:06.960 you know, are there any buyers that at kind of 86 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.240 some relatively large salaries for those guys, or do they 87 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:16.160 instead kind of play the load management, make up injuries 88 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.240 game to make room for the likes of Kyle Philipowski, 89 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.040 who is a d M p CD in a preseason 90 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.040 game last night. You know, I think that that's going 91 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:26.800 to be kind of interesting to see how that that 92 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.360 really plays out, because I think there are kind of 93 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:33.399 eleven guys at least who probably kind of demands time 94 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:37.160 on this roster and probably nine or ten rotation spots 95 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:37.639 to put them in. 96 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.600 Walker last night four blocks, nine boards. This is a 97 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.959 big year for Walker Kestler. Oftentimes, you know, year three, 98 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.959 it's when teams more often than not, are deciding on options. 99 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:51.759 You know, for that didn't get his picked up for 100 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.439 the Kings after year three. Most of the time rookies 101 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.279 do have that option picked up. It's pretty rare, and 102 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.759 I'm not saying Walker's not going to but year three 103 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.680 more often than not for most players outside of unicorns 104 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:09.319 like Lebron and Wembin Yama, you got to figure out 105 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.920 whether or not this is gonna be a rotational piece 106 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.399 for you moving forward, and whether or not you have 107 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:16.920 just a benchwarmer in the league, or is this a 108 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.360 guy you can start and rely upon to anchor your defense. 109 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.040 I've not really changed my calculus on him. I mean, 110 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.720 the numbers dipped a little bit last year, but it 111 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.240 wasn't like a precipitous dip. It was just minor here 112 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:29.639 or there, But it was clear that he didn't take 113 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.519 a step up from year one to year two. Have 114 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.360 you seen enough in the preseason to give you confidence 115 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:37.759 that we will see a positive step from Walker year 116 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.160 two to year three. 117 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.800 Yeah, I think a little bit of one. And I 118 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.319 guess I'm not saying huge stripes or anything like that. 119 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:47.759 And I still think, honestly, the biggest thing that would 120 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.199 help Walker would be playing with like a top level 121 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.040 point guard. You know, I think, honestly, he just looked 122 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:55.399 a lot better in that rookie season, in large part 123 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.319 because he was playing with Mike Conley, who could deliver 124 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.839 lob passes, you know, compared to County or Who's not 125 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.680 secret that, right. But that being said, I do think 126 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.240 he's playing with a little bit more physicality. Will Hardy 127 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.839 said that he thought the Decreaseason game against Dallas was 128 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.399 the best rebounding game of his Jazz career and picked 129 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.399 up fifteen rebounds, including five offensive in that game. You know, 130 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.920 I thought he was. I agree with will I thought 131 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:23.720 he was very good in that game. And I do think, 132 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.160 you know, he made a big defensive impact last night, 133 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.079 and what was ninety five percent of a regular season 134 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.600 game with the Kings playing four starters over thirty six minutes, 135 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.959 So yeah, you know, I think ultimately like that is, 136 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.240 the question with Walker is not whether or not he's 137 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:40.759 an NBA player, He definitely is. It's whether or not 138 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.439 he is a starter or a bench guy, right, and 139 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.160 and really how much do you want to pay him 140 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.839 on that extension in those extension talks starting next season? 141 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.079 And I think most likely is that he's kind of 142 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.720 a tweener in that way, and that you know, he's 143 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.839 someone who you can start defensively, but maybe he doesn't 144 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.360 have the offensive skill set that you feel really great 145 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:04.839 about doing that, and maybe a player worth in a 146 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.160 tend of fifteen million dollar range. But yeah, he gets 147 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.160 to determine that based on how this season goes for him. 148 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.839 And you know, I think, again, I'm seeing kind of 149 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.600 small steps there with improved physicality on the glass, a 150 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.040 little bit better screening, a little bit better hands, but 151 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.279 it's not anything I think fundamentally changes who he is as. 152 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.800 A player, how has Taylor fit in next to him? 153 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:29.240 And obviously Lowry and what do you what do you 154 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.279 anticipate from Taylor all year long? 155 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:32.000 I mean, the. 156 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.879 Measurables have always stood out, and the experience he gained 157 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.639 last year. Oftentimes, even as a young player with not 158 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.279 a lot of experience guarding the other team's best wing, 159 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.959 can he grow into a legitimate defensive stopper that will 160 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.040 can use on dynamic offensive wings from other teams? 161 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:52.560 And you think we'll see that this year? 162 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.040 I you know, I think he can, but I don't 163 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.959 think he's there now from a game processing point of view. 164 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.519 I think, first of all, teams aren't going to be 165 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.839 guarding him right Like, there's just not enough confidence in 166 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:09.240 his overall offensive game. Uh. Frankly, the the the handle 167 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.920 I think is his weakest point right now as a player, 168 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.480 Like he just can't be you know, trusted to dribble 169 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:19.839 to create on his own, even just against closeouts. So uh, 170 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.079 you know, that's an obvious improven point. I think he 171 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.199 can knock down threes relatively well, and I think he 172 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:29.160 can stay in front defensively against pretty good players. But 173 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.120 I don't think you think he's an elite stopper by 174 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.360 any means at this point in his career. And you know, 175 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.039 that still makes sense. He's still young, he's still just 176 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.480 in his second year, and Jazz knew that this would 177 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.320 be a project. But I do think that, uh, you know, 178 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.519 if you're expecting him to be a stopper this year, 179 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.279 that's that's going to be optimistic. You're you're you're looking 180 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:51.000 for flashes of development and kind of continual development and 181 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.679 his ability to read the game and make those kind 182 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.679 of plays. I do think he looks significantly bigger and 183 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:59.840 older this year, right Like I do think like just 184 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.480 his body grew up a little bit, and I think 185 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.240 we're seeing some of the benefits of that in preseason. 186 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.360 But he's still kind of struggling to impact the game 187 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.000 on a possession by possession basis. It's more about flashes 188 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.360 right now rather than about putting together a full you know, 189 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.320 twenty four or thirty minutes whatever he's going to end 190 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.120 up getting in regular season actions. 191 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:24.440 So is there a chance, Andy, You know, ultimately I 192 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.720 don't believe this team has a shot to make the playoffs, 193 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.200 But is there a chance As a result of some 194 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:33.559 of the teams in the league that have aged out 195 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.120 a little bit, and also the dynamic of simply players 196 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.720 not showing up in Salt Lake City, as Tom Haberstrow 197 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.440 did the research for US a year ago that as 198 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:46.200 a result of Will playing, and if he decides to 199 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.759 do this, if there's no tricky like Lowry has his 200 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:53.039 sprained ankle, he's out for two weeks, and Will plays 201 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:56.879 his best lineups every night, and they stay healthy and 202 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.039 they don't lean into load management, that they might be 203 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.759 able to steal a bunch of regular season games that 204 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.120 nobody sees coming and maybe even approach like a thirty 205 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:08.120 five to forty wins such like I said, this is 206 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.639 not a team that I believe will make the playoffs. 207 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:11.759 And if they somehow. 208 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.240 Squeak in, if they face any of the other teams 209 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.320 in the West that are in front of them fully healthy, 210 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.440 They're not going to win four times and seven tries, 211 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.960 but they could potentially win more regular season games than 212 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.399 most believe because a lot of the teams that are 213 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.720 going to be playing will be sitting players for load 214 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.080 management or they're just not showing up in Salt Lake. 215 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:33.960 Can they overshoot regular season expectations? If Will decides to 216 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:36.360 play his guys big minutes every night, and they simply 217 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:37.960 show up to work and work hard. 218 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.200 I think maybe you know, like I don't want to say, 219 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.279 even like forty wins to me is optimistic, and I 220 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.440 don't think forty wins gets to a playoffs bottom. That's 221 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:51.279 your Western Conference, right I think there are thirteen teams 222 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:55.159 that on paper are pretty clearly better than the Jazz, 223 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:58.639 right and you know, maybe one or two of those 224 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.080 cadjers and you move up to the kind of eleven 225 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:02.840 or twelve spot they've been in in the last couple 226 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.600 of years. But I also don't think that this roster 227 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.399 is a tire player, right, Like, I think you're right 228 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.279 that these there are good veterans. I think, you know, 229 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.080 Larry Market is a really good player. I think it's 230 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.120 relatively deep. I think they do play hard. I think 231 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.240 there's decent odds that the defense is not worse than 232 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.720 the league like it was last year. And I think 233 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.240 you know, they're going to win some significant games because 234 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.519 of the home you know, home court advantage, because of 235 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:30.559 the altitude, because of teams resting guys coming into Utah, 236 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.440 because they take a lot of threes and three point variants, 237 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.559 is a thing, and I think, yeah, there's just going 238 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.720 to be some games where like the youth wins out 239 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.519 and beat the tire team on the second hand of 240 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.200 a back to back or whatever. Right like, it's it's 241 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.840 not a Washington Wizards or Detroit Piston situation. I don't 242 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.440 think where they're going to win fifteen to twenty games. 243 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:51.480 I think they they're a little bit better than that. 244 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.360 And so you know, really where you get into kind 245 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:56.960 of a problem from a tanking point of view, I 246 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.240 guess it's the Eastern Conference right where you do have 247 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.600 the Pistons, and when there's a Hornets and Raptors and 248 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.879 Bowls and a couple other crappy teams, I'm forgetting here 249 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.200 and those are going to be kind of your competitions 250 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.000 for the lottery odds. But yeah, like I think a 251 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.279 thirty win season. You know that is there Vegas over 252 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.639 under right now, and that feels about right for where 253 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:20.000 the talent level is on this roster. 254 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:25.240 All right, let's talk about the dynamic that most people 255 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.759 really want to discuss, and that is the media meals 256 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.840 this year at the Delta Center. So it looks like 257 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:33.960 you and I are going to be smashing some j dogs. 258 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:34.960 Is that the case here? 259 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.679 I've been trying out new things. I mean it's only 260 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.039 been three games, right, So like Maxwell's is no longer 261 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.960 in the arena, there's a new piece of places called mods. 262 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.279 I tried that honestly, was b minus trade if you know, 263 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.559 if we're honest. Tried out the nachos at Coasta Beta 264 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.919 last night. Those weren't bad. But yeah, this is a 265 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.919 season of experimentation and learning about the confessions that the 266 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.440 Delta Center for sure for us. 267 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.799 So what we're referring to and I learned this as well, 268 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:10.759 I guess I was at the hockey game and I 269 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.159 enjoyed myself a jay dog. 270 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:14.080 I like a good jay dog from time to time. 271 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.600 Now, now the hockey team the locker room is taking 272 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.679 up space, and so there's no more media dining room 273 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.799 and we're eating eating with vouchers on the concourse. 274 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.000 Is that the deal moving forward? 275 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.759 Yeah? Yeah, So, I mean I don't know if we're 276 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.879 we'll get into whatever, We'll just say everything. Yeah. So 277 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.960 where the media dining room was last year is now 278 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.080 where the hockey the Utah Hockey Clubs locker room is 279 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.960 this year. And they say there's no other space downstairs 280 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.039 for media dining, and so yeah, we get twenty dollars 281 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:50.120 vouchers as media members for every game. So that's that's 282 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.279 what we get. And you know, honestly, it's not bad 283 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.879 in some ways, Like at least this way you kind 284 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.360 of get to choose what you eat if you want, 285 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.279 and there are plenty. There were some times last year 286 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:00.559 where heck, I you know, I wasn't in in favor 287 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.080 of the media dining buffet, and so we'd go upstairs 288 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.600 and get a slice of fizea or whatever. But now 289 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.639 that's kind of our deal. And then I personally just 290 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.960 eat it in our media seets. But you know, up 291 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.039 to you where you want to eat it. 292 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:16.200 I guess Andy, this is what the listeners want. The 293 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:17.440 listeners want. 294 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.759 To talk about, how the media will be fed. I 295 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:21.639 promise you this is compelling content. 296 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.039 Look, and I mean I don't think it is, but 297 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.480 I've heard good things about the by YouTube cono spread, 298 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.200 the league, the NBA. Some teams like Detroit has little 299 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.279 Caesars Arena you wouldn't believe has the best stake and 300 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.840 spread and just the most amazing choices you could ever imagine, 301 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:49.080 you know, like it's better than a Vegas buffet in Detroit. 302 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.320 And then you have a lot of teams now that, yeah, 303 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.679 are doing the concession bouchers things, some even liminum for 304 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.759 just one place you can buy like chicken tenders from 305 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.159 the league. Is changing sence in a way that really 306 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:02.480 matters to our listeners. 307 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.039 Is this all because you tweeted about Stewart Adams? 308 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.000 I don't think so. 309 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:10.679 No, this is your fault, dude, This is all your fault. 310 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:14.080 The hallway is because I tweeted about Stuart Adams. The 311 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.039 dining situation, I do think is like largely just because 312 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.039 the hockey team needed the place to have locker room, 313 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.200 which is pretty reasonable. Now, look, they're still the club. 314 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.840 They're still like the Delta Sky three sixty club for 315 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.039 the rich folks in the first five rows. That's still 316 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.159 on level one. They're still a family room on level one. 317 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.879 There's still Ryan's Sweet the Underground on level one. But yeah, 318 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:38.679 there's no more immediate dining on level one. 319 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.080 Fair enough, all right, last jazz thing. ESPN's doing their 320 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.639 player rank. Lowry comes in at thirty. Lowry comes in 321 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.039 at thirty three. They did I think fifty to ten today, 322 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.919 that's down five spots from twenty eight. So what ESPN 323 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.200 rank is telling us is the best player on the 324 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:59.720 Jazz by far, quite frankly, is the thirty third best 325 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.159 player in the league. What does that say to you 326 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:02.799 if anything? 327 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.159 Yeah, the Ringer released their list today too, and I 328 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.080 think Glwery was thirty first, and then Colinsecon I believe 329 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:11.279 was ninety seventh. I may have those numbers one or 330 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.440 two offs, but yeah, it gives you the vibe like, 331 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:17.600 look for this Jazz seems not the most talented top 332 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.360 level with in terms of top level talent, right, Like, 333 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.600 that is clearly the thing that the Jazz needs to 334 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.759 add in order to be an actually good team again 335 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:30.879 is a top twenty player in the league. And that's 336 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.240 that's why we're talking about thinking, that's why we're talking 337 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.559 about big game hunting and all of that. Right. I 338 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:40.159 do think Lowry it basically had the same season he did, 339 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:42.919 you know one year ago. The difference was he played 340 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.039 fewer games, and you know, the the win loss totals 341 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.000 didn't look as good and so that impacted some of 342 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:52.879 the advanced stats. But like in the end, I you know, 343 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:54.879 I think Lowery's a good player. I would probably put 344 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:57.159 him like in that twenty fifth to thirty zone rather 345 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:59.679 than in the thirty to thirty five zone. But really 346 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.279 where we're you know, putting hairs at that point, And yeah, 347 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.440 it's all about how are you going to find that 348 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.440 next top twenty guy? Probably even you know, really if 349 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:10.240 you want to be a true contender, a top ten 350 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.480 guy to add to the Jazz's roster. And you know 351 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.920 that's yeah again draft right, that's a game hunting. That's 352 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:17.839 all the stuff we've been talking about all off season 353 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:19.720 where we don't really have an answer on how the 354 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:21.079 Jazz are going to find that guy next? 355 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:24.359 All right, Andy, before I say you lose, the lads 356 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.920 are back after a little bit of a break. Pablo 357 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:32.440 joined us last segments Vancouver. It's interesting because RSL plays 358 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:38.079 Vancouver and simultaneously, Seattle plays Portland, and RSL and Seattle 359 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:40.319 are still in the mix for three and Portland and 360 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:43.839 Vancouver are trying to avoid that wildcard spot. So it's 361 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.240 going to be a crazy night on Saturday seven o'clock. 362 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.279 What would you like to see on Saturday night to 363 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.440 indicate this team is in a good place heading into 364 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:52.079 the postseason. 365 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:56.319 Yeah, I think a few things. One I want to see. 366 00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:59.240 I feel like I'm asking for a lot here, but 367 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:01.839 a win in the clean sheet and a good attack. 368 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.960 But like those are kind of what I'm looking for 369 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.759 right Like the defense has been a significant question all 370 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:11.720 year long. Can they figure out a defensive rotation that's 371 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.359 not allowing a gazillion shot? Uh? You know, who's your 372 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.440 starting goaltender? All that kind of stuff, I think is 373 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:22.240 a really interesting question. The offense has you know, dropped 374 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.519 the level clearly. Can Chicho get going? You know, what 375 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.599 do they do? You know, in terms of who's starting 376 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.559 at the wings, is that Mark Duke is at Locklin Brook? 377 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:32.759 Is it? 378 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:35.400 You know, I think they're there are questions will be 379 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:38.559 asked there. Do you definitely start, you know, can diego 380 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.759 Luna plane ninety minutes? Diogo the guy in the middle, 381 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:43.880 or do you go with Anderson Julio at some point 382 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.640 up top and slide Chicho back? Like they're real kind 383 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:50.720 of rotational questions to answer. But like, to me, kind 384 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:52.759 of the most important thing is this chance I think 385 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.039 they if they do end up in third, I believe 386 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.839 they could still steel still steal the CONCACAFT Champions Cup placements, 387 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.519 and that would be I think a big deal. You know, 388 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:06.680 I think it's been a long time since ourselves played 389 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.319 in that tournament, and I think, you know, a season 390 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:13.079 that was so good in these stretches. I think it 391 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.920 could really benefit oursel to have that international competition again. 392 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.440 So that's kind of what I'm hoping for as a fan, 393 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.200 is to see them play at that top level, at 394 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:25.640 a continental level again the next year, rather than you know, 395 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.440 kind of miss out on it on that tournament like 396 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.480 they have in the last what half decade or so. 397 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.000 All Right, buddy, we appreciate the time. Have a good week, 398 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:33.880 gets you out against soon. 399 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.000 Okay, sounds good, Thanks Ben, all Right the. 400 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.480 Great Andy Larson from the saw Lake Tribune. Get them 401 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.799 on Twitter at Andy B. Larson is where you find them.