WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.600 No, I went on, you're putting. I got a string 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:03.560 going on here. 3 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:04.839 Something just killing my dog. 4 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.320 Something killed your dog, my dog. 5 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.439 We're flying through there, over the tree. I don't know 6 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:14.720 how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All 7 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:16.519 I saw is my dog coming over the fence, and 8 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:18.679 he was dead once you hit the ground. I didn't 9 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:19.320 have see any cars. 10 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:21.280 All I saw was my dog coming over the fence. 11 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:38.920 Sap, what are you putting? 12 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:43.320 We got some wonder or something crawling. 13 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:51.880 Around out here? Did you see what it was? 14 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:51.920 Was? 15 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.200 It was standing enough. I'm out here looking through the 16 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:56.079 window now and I don't see anything. I don't want 17 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:57.479 to go outside. 18 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.479 Jesus quiet, you better. 19 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:06.040 Hello, hit the boddy out here, Quen, I'm out there. 20 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.599 I thought of a bitch about tick forty nine. I 21 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:10.120 don't know easy him out there. 22 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.400 Yeah, I'm walking right head. Well. 23 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:14.560 While back, I got a message from a guy named 24 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.680 Luke up in Canada. Luke's a huge fan of the show, 25 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.159 been listening for a while now, and he reached out 26 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.799 just because he wanted to talk. He didn't have any 27 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.840 first hand encounters to share. He didn't have a sighting 28 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.799 report or anything like that. He just genuinely wanted to 29 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.640 have a conversation about Bigfoot, and honestly, I thought that 30 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:36.400 was pretty cool. So Danny set it up, blocked off 31 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.879 about an hour on my calendar, and Luke and I 32 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.040 hopped on a video call and just talked, no script, 33 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.599 no agenda, just two guys who loved the subject, sitting 34 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.400 down and geeking out about it, and we had a blast. 35 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.760 I mean, we really did. It was just a great time, 36 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:53.879 and when it was over, I thought, you know what, 37 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.799 I've got to share this with everybody, and it got 38 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:00.159 me thinking, I'm seriously considering doing at least one one 39 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.159 of these a month. So here's what I want to 40 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.359 say to you. If you don't necessarily have your own encounters, 41 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:08.280 but you'd love to just have a conversation about the subject, 42 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.479 or maybe you've got some questions you want to ask 43 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.360 me and you want to be a part of the show, 44 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:16.960 reach out send me an email at Brian at Paranormalworldproductions 45 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.680 dot com. But for now, let's join the conversation between 46 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:21.199 Luke and me. 47 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.840 Thanks for having the time to meet with me. For sure. 48 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.360 Yeah, man, I'm always interested in talking to people about Bigfoot. Obviously, 49 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.439 it's a little bit different because we don't really have 50 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.800 any encounters or anything like that to talk about. I'm 51 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.800 definitely interested in the conversation and what you were interested 52 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:36.599 in getting into. 53 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.599 I guess a little just quick introduction about me. My 54 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.719 name is Luke. I'm based here in Alberta, Canada. I 55 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.400 spent most of my life hunting and traveling in some 56 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:49.080 remote areas. Over time, my interest in sasquatch has shifted 57 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.719 from listening to stories to wanting to approach it at 58 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.919 more of a serious state, like in the field. I'm 59 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.919 not really trying to prove anything overnight, of course, but 60 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:02.520 I'm interested in documenting patterns, locations, conditions and ruling out 61 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.120 normal explanations first and focusing on consistency not conclusion. 62 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.319 Just that makes sense totally. I get it. 63 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:13.000 It's very difficult for people like me. I've said this 64 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.000 so many times on the show. I usually get so 65 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:18.639 much shit from people in the audience when I try 66 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.000 to do other things. If I'm just podcasting and I'm 67 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:24.599 just doing a show and I'm just interviewing people, everybody's happy, 68 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.520 right or most people are happy with that. But when 69 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.400 I dig into the research itself, when I go out 70 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.400 in the field on our property here. That's why I 71 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.719 bought this forty acres was to research on it. I 72 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.439 hoped that there might be something here. I go out, 73 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.120 I start finding things, start finding tree breaks, which is 74 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.159 obviously completely subjective. It could be anything. But when you 75 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.919 find footprints, when you find hard evidence. In my opinion, 76 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.039 we found rock stacks on the property here. Again, could 77 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.960 it be somebody that's coming on these other thousand acres 78 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.280 behind us that are ending up on the back of 79 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.400 our property somehow and making a rock stack. Sure, that's possible, 80 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:02.199 it's just not high probable. So the problem for me 81 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.520 is as an entertainer, and it's taken me a while 82 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.520 to get to that point because I've always taken this 83 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:11.039 very seriously and always been into the research, always wanted 84 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:12.879 to go out in the woods and have experiences and 85 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.840 encounters of my own. But when I do that, people 86 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.240 get upset about it because then now I'm the Bigfoot 87 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.399 podcast guy who just happens to buy land in rural 88 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.560 North Carolina and oh, he has Bigfoot walking sixty five 89 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.639 yards away from his house and he's finding footprints. So 90 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.720 then you have to deal with that, right, So most 91 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:32.920 researchers and other people that are into this subject. 92 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.199 Yeah, you deal with the ridicule. 93 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.480 You deal with people scoffing, You deal with people saying, oh, 94 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.759 that's bullshit, that's a blurry picture, that's a bear print, 95 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.639 or that's a person's footprint, whatever. 96 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:42.160 You deal with that. 97 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.120 But when you do what I do, which is entertain 98 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.240 people in this space, it's difficult for me. When I 99 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.399 wrote my first book, it's a very serious scientific approach 100 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.160 at least I think so to the subject of saying, hey, 101 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.519 this is what evidence really is, because people say, oh, 102 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:02.120 stories aren't evidence. Yeah, anecdotal evidence is evidence. It's a 103 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.360 different kind of evidence, but it is evidence. Nonetheless, plenty 104 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:07.439 of people are sitting in jail sales right now because 105 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.160 somebody pointed their finger in court and said I saw 106 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.639 this guy do this to that person, and people go 107 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.160 to jail for less. Right, So if we're talking about Bigfoot, 108 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.839 then these anecdotal stories that I document I see my 109 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.040 show at least Sasquatch Odyssey. 110 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.279 I have other podcasts obviously that are just story. 111 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.199 Based, but even there it is a repository for these 112 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.519 kind of experiences people are having. But again, when you 113 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.480 cross over as an entertainer and you start getting serious. 114 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.759 It's almost like Hollywood actors who get into politics. 115 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:38.000 Right. 116 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:39.279 People can do it. 117 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.839 But they're looked at way differently than just another person 118 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.800 running for mayor or governor or whatever. Because they're Hollywood types, 119 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.079 they're entertainers. They shouldn't be dipping their toes in this. 120 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.879 So it's always been a fine line for me, but 121 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:53.639 I don't really give a shit at this point. 122 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:55.480 I'll always go out and do what I want to do. 123 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.920 I go out with groups and local groups. I go 124 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.319 to different places. I've been to different countries looking for 125 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.480 these creatures. So I'm always interested in people that are 126 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.959 willing and looking to take it from Hey, I just 127 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.680 want to be entertained by this subject. I you listening 128 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:11.639 to a podcast and listening to people's encounters to actually 129 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.600 getting out in the woods and looking for these things. 130 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.279 I think that is a totally different level, and I'm 131 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.560 always glad to see that people are making that shift 132 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.000 because it could be and should be easier for a 133 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.680 person like you to do than Oh woe is me, 134 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.480 the poor podcaster where has to deal with people scoffing 135 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.160 at him because of his bigfoot research At the end 136 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:30.600 of the day. 137 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:31.120 I don't really care. 138 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.879 I am open and honest about what I do, where 139 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.600 I go, what I find, and that was difficult for me. 140 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:38.439 I don't know about you. We'd get into that if 141 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.600 you want, if you found anything or any evidence of 142 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.639 your own, but when you do. I sat on it 143 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.399 for a long time. When I found the first prints 144 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.800 here on the property that I cast, I was like, 145 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.160 I'm not telling anybody this because nobody's going to believe 146 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.920 it because I am the bigfoot guy, right and now 147 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.120 I'm saying I found this. What are the chances? Well, 148 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.199 clear to the chances are pretty good because it happened 149 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:00.000 multiple times. 150 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:01.519 I don't know what about you. 151 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.519 Are you already going out in the woods just doing 152 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:05.360 your natural thing. 153 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:07.600 I see the bow back there. You're obviously a hunter. 154 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.000 Are you just going out of hunting at this point 155 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.399 or are you getting out with the mindset of, Hey, 156 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.000 I'm leaving the bow behind. I'm not going out getting 157 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.079 in the tree stand today. I'm actually going boots on 158 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:20.480 the ground looking for bigfoot. 159 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.720 That's a great question, actually, because I think it's evolved 160 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.639 over time, starting young guys. You can see the deer skull. 161 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.560 This is the buck from this year the bow. I 162 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.079 actually never grew up hunting. It wasn't something like my 163 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.920 father taught me or anything like that. I grew up 164 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.800 in a city ish town like I'm from Northern Alberta 165 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.439 Fort McMurray. I had family that hunted, but my old 166 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.240 man never did, which is still welcome to death. But 167 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.560 I found that passion on my own. I found it 168 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.839 in my high Schoolish mets and friends and shouted a 169 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.959 deer hunting and evolved over time in the subject of 170 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.920 bigfoot or fantasies if anything takes scape reality. When I 171 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.000 started growing up and then realizing, I'm like, hey, some 172 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.439 of this stuff starts to make sense, mainly because I'm 173 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.199 out in the woods and I'm big into prehistoric times 174 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.680 like gigantopithecuss and stuff like that, where I'm like, evolutions possible. 175 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:06.600 Look how far humans have tone I'm like, is it 176 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.920 possible that something else could be out there? Definitely. What 177 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.680 keeps me interested isn't really any single story, but it's 178 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.800 the scale, the terrain, the human distribution. When you look 179 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:20.279 how little land is actually occupied and consistently traveled, especially 180 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.560 in places like Western Canada, the northern US, it refrains 181 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:28.160 what's plausible right now. I haven't had a directing count 182 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.639 of myself where I can say I have personally seen 183 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:35.039 something standing there that I can't explain. I've seen stuff 184 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.519 in the woods like odd breaks, stuff like that, and 185 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.559 I'm like, no, it's odd, it's out of place. But 186 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.840 I never really put anything together till I started really 187 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.240 taking it seriously, listening to podcast looking into a guy 188 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.639 that's in BC there, that bigfoot researcher, that codstanding, that 189 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.840 interesting gentleman, his interesting footage. When it first came out, 190 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:56.759 it kicked me off, but that it led me to 191 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.440 find more, dare I say, credible stuff where let into 192 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.000 your podcasts and other people you've been talking to where 193 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:06.600 I could find more relation to how I thought of 194 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.000 the subject as a whole. There was one time where 195 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.159 I want to say it may have been an experience, 196 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:13.960 it may not have been an experience. So I had 197 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.840 planned hike. It's about six to seven kilometers one way. 198 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.080 It's usually you follow up one trail and you saw 199 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.840 the one trail back. The plan was to go with 200 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.399 a couple of friends, but leave really early so that 201 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.120 we hit the hot springs and we'd be there for 202 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:29.080 what we called dear thirty or action thirty, where the 203 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:31.399 sun's coming up, all the animals are moving. It'd be 204 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.600 really cool to sit in the hot springs and elker 205 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:36.639 around there grizzily bears. So we wanted to maybe see 206 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.919 that while we sat in the Hot springs. Short story, 207 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.360 it was everybody bailed on me last minute, but I 208 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:44.600 was dead set on wanting to go on this trip. 209 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:46.519 I was like, Hey, this would be a really cool experience. 210 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:49.440 I've been there before, let's go again. I set out, 211 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.080 I get there, I get to the trailhead and it's 212 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.559 the middle of the week. Nobody's there, no cars, no nothing. 213 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.519 So I'm like, all right, perfect, but nobody's going to 214 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.080 be up there. It should be a great time. As 215 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.159 I'm following the trail, I'm following maps. I have my 216 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.279 headlamp on it. You can see on the maps that 217 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.240 there's two basically drainages that fall off of this pot 218 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.679 spring essentially, and it creates two little valleys, and the 219 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:11.799 one trail, like the main trail, follows one of them. 220 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.559 But if you wanted, you could follow the drainage where 221 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.279 it connects up again, and you can follow this second 222 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.919 one up there's some open clearings. My thought was, if 223 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:21.879 there's a chance of me seeing something that's not going 224 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.000 to be on the main trail, I can follow this up. 225 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.240 Go ahead. And I heard some elk bugling in the 226 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.200 distance when I had got on the trail head, so 227 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:32.200 I was feeling pretty good about the situation. But as 228 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.759 I was coming up the drainage and heading towards the 229 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:36.679 spring and the clearing where I thought I had heard 230 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.840 elk from down, like probably a kilometer or two before, 231 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.360 I had noticed like rocks falling ahead of me. Didn't 232 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.399 think anything of it. There's a ridge on the other side. 233 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.679 Rocks fall all the time. It continued to happen a 234 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.240 couple of times, and then I had noticed when I 235 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.360 was walking, like my foot head caught on something. So 236 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.399 I was like, oh, ranch rock. I looked down, but 237 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.000 my shoelace was untied. Took a couple of steps to 238 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.200 just confirm that it was untied. I was like, oh hey, 239 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.120 and I go to bend down and I start to 240 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.679 toie my shoe, and literally as soon as I decided 241 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.279 to stop and then down, a decent sized rock had 242 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.399 rolled down where if I had continued to walk, it 243 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.039 looked like it would. It came very close to where 244 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.879 I was, so I'd stopped and I was like, okay. 245 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.080 I was like, wait a minute, let's you know, I've hunted. 246 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.960 I've been in the woods a lot. I was like, elk, 247 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.759 early morning, cougar bear country. Maybe a cougar's tail in 248 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.039 this thinks I'm an elk, or thinks I'm something. So 249 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.039 I started making a bit more noise. But I was like, 250 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.360 you know, what if something's in this area, I don't 251 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.480 have a fire arm anything. I had some bear spray 252 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:36.799 with seing you, but I was like, I just raight 253 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.960 not head back to the main trail. Nothing happened after that. 254 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.679 I had no more rocks anything like that. I didn't 255 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.399 have a presence of that quietness where everything was quiet 256 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.360 in the woods or felt like I was being watched. 257 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.759 So I can't confirm if for what it was, but 258 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.000 it felt weird, to say the least. I've seen weird 259 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:58.240 tracks in the woods too, but nothing has been a 260 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:03.000 definitive toe foot giant thing, nothing like that. But I 261 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.240 want to stay open to the subject, to say the least. 262 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.519 But as far as experiences would go, I'd say that 263 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:12.360 would probably be the closest thing I would have had, 264 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.320 but I can't label it as one. I just can't. 265 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.799 I think there's so many people in that same boat 266 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.159 with you. I was on social media early this morning 267 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:22.840 when I get up. That's usually my thing. I get 268 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:24.720 up every morning a little early and I just go 269 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.720 through and see what's happening on Instagram and social media 270 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.200 in relation to bigfoot stuff before I get my day started, 271 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.159 and there was a post from a lady who I'm 272 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.039 friends with on Facebook. Unfortunately, it's gotten to the point 273 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.799 where I don't know all the people that I'm friends 274 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.919 with on Facebook. They're five thousand friends and like eight 275 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:40.879 thousand followers. 276 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:42.480 It's hard to keep up with all these people. 277 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.320 But this one lady that I'd never interacted with did 278 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:49.200 a post and she was talking about bigfoot research and 279 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.320 the state of the community and how disappointed she is 280 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.720 that It wasn't worded exactly perfectly to get the point across. 281 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.440 You had to kind of read into what she was saying. 282 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.399 But it was pretty cool, at least to me, that 283 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.360 she was trying to say, we need more real boots 284 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.480 on the ground researchers out there in the subject because 285 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.480 there's so many people out there doing the opposite. It's 286 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.720 this sensational stuff, and we see it all the time here. 287 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.679 I've got thirty six hundred followers on Instagram because I 288 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.919 don't post a lot there, and the stuff that I 289 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.519 post is real. I don't post a lot of evident stuff. 290 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:26.279 I don't go out and do these cool videos where 291 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.240 things are screaming in the background or trees are getting 292 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:32.960 knocked over. But there's so much of that out there now, 293 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.399 and I think it has tainted, at least in my opinion, 294 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:39.600 what a lot of people think the subject is. If 295 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.360 you go out looking for these things, and I've done 296 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.440 it multiple times in many different places, ninety eight point 297 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.559 nine percent of the time, it's sitting around the campfire 298 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:53.440 talking shit and nothing's happening. That's just the reality that's 299 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.039 not sexy for people. And I actually commented on her 300 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:59.480 post on Facebook this morning and said, look, it's clear 301 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.480 that these channels that have hundreds of thousands of followers 302 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.440 out there. You mentioned Todd's Standing Todd is one of 303 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.919 those channels. For Todd, he just recycles the same shit 304 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.799 from like twenty twelve. He puts this picture of Jacob, 305 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:15.840 this face of Sasquatch and says Sasquatch Evidence Discovery, like 306 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:17.720 it's the greatest thing ever, and it's something that he 307 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:20.720 filmed twelve years ago, and it's never anything new. It's 308 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:22.480 just the same pontification with Todd. 309 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.559 It's funny too that you mentioned that, because I had 310 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:29.799 kept that my quote unquote rock possibility thing under raps 311 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:31.519 for a little while. I felt weird about it, but 312 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.919 I was like, Okay, rocks are happened. But then I'd 313 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.039 stumbled upon Todd's stuff, so I sent him an email, 314 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.000 no acknowledgment, no nothing, which honestly I don't blame him. 315 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:43.879 Some rocks faulting, Really, what's there? But I did start 316 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.559 to notice the recycling of content because the content did 317 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:49.080 interest me at first, and it caught my interest where 318 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.799 I was like, hey, possibility of an actual good strotos 319 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.960 finally sometime in the last one hundred years. Holy crap, 320 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.279 that sounds great. But then when I just started seeing 321 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.000 other post arb close people diving into it, I was like, Okay, 322 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:03.840 let'll take it with a grain of salt, to say. 323 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.480 A least, and stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. 324 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:09.600 We'll be right back after these messages. 325 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:13.759 Yeah. 326 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.159 When I first watched Discovering Bigfoot, I've said it so 327 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.240 many times on the show. I was completely blown away. 328 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:22.000 I walked away from watching that hour and a half 329 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.279 documentary whatever it was, and I was like, holy shit, 330 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.360 why are more people not talking about Why is everybody 331 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.000 not talking about this. I wasn't really online at that 332 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.480 point in the Bigfoot forums and the bigfoot groups on Facebook. 333 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:35.960 When I got into that, I was like, Oh, people 334 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:38.679 are clearly talking about this, and eighty percent of the 335 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.559 people are saying it's complete horseshit in the other twenty 336 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:44.200 or buying a hookline and sinker. And then I went 337 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.000 to Todd's channel and saw all the videos and I 338 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.000 was like, wow, this is interesting. In the beginning, I 339 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.000 thought that those things were probably real images of a bigfoot. 340 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.440 Then I watched it again, and then I watched it 341 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:59.759 three more times. Everything then unraveled for me and I 342 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.480 was like, way, there's this one scene and I've talked 343 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.279 about it several times, and I was actually having a 344 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.360 conversation with somebody recently that said the opposite of this 345 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.320 for them. In Discovering Bigfoot, it was that scene where 346 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:13.039 Tid's out in the middle of nowhere, and he's got 347 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.480 flares going and he's screaming. These things are yelling, and 348 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:20.519 he's in the ah. He's doing all this stuff. And initially, 349 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:22.279 when you watch that for the first time, it's a 350 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:27.799 very dramatic piece of film to see someone alone in 351 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:31.600 the back country, potentially surrounded by at least I think 352 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:34.000 three of these things at this point. And then you've 353 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.159 got this glove. I'm sorry, it's not a glove, it's 354 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:39.799 a sasquatch hand. This sasquatch hand that he catches taking 355 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:43.799 the apple in the background. Yeah, all this happened, and 356 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.039 I started thinking I've got Bigfoot on the brain. And 357 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:51.559 I just went back and watched that again completely subjectively. 358 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.080 I just said, I'm gonna sit down and I'm going 359 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.080 to clear my mind, and I'm going to watch this again. 360 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.399 And if you do that a couple of times, it's 361 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:01.519 very clear to me that's a voice of the sound 362 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.360 the audio of these alleged creatures. 363 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:04.759 I've heard that before. 364 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.799 I've had people send me videos in the past that 365 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.240 were very similar to that. That appears to be a 366 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:14.279 voiceover of an alleged sasquatch, growling gruntings yelling whatever. And 367 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.480 then I thought, when have I ever been out in 368 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.279 the woods anywhere? And let me ask you this question. 369 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:22.039 You may make a fool out of me. You spend 370 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:23.359 a lot of time in the woods. I live in 371 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.960 the woods. Guess how many times I've ever went out 372 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:27.440 in the woods with a flair. 373 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.279 I've only started considering it now only because I've been 374 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.480 going guiding in remote places on jetboats, rivers where we're 375 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.079 two three hours away from medical attention, where if we 376 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.880 potentially need to call a helicopter and it's dark or 377 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:46.279 something like that. I've only considered it then, and even then, 378 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:50.119 that's only been something that's crossed my mind within recent times. 379 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.359 And even then it is super unnecessary. And the way 380 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.000 I looked at it was because I had watched that 381 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:57.839 over and over again as well, because when I first 382 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:59.160 saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, I got's the 383 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.559 big twood standing at the tree. It threw a log 384 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:03.960 at him. That's a hand grabbing the app I was like, Wow, 385 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:05.759 this is great. When you start to look at and 386 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:08.640 listen to other stories about how you know these things 387 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:14.640 potentially impossibly act. If he's sitting there screaming and this 388 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:17.359 and that I don't think the road flare is gonna 389 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.640 stop ten foot eight hundred, nine hundred pound essentially pissed 390 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.400 off gorilla. When in human history has a road flare 391 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.000 ever stop an animal charge like that. I've been charged 392 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.559 by bold loose. I've had grizzly bears chatter at me. 393 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.440 I don't think about pulling out a road flare. I 394 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:40.240 think about pulling out a firearm, not like a road flares, 395 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:41.599 least of my concern. 396 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.839 And if you watch that again with an open mind 397 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.039 and think critically, the only thing that does is makes 398 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.319 a very dramatic image. 399 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.920 On video for a documentary. 400 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:55.480 That's exactly what a rate for content. 401 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.319