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<v Speaker 1>Clive with JT. Thanks away. Absolutely, We're in Vegas and

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<v Speaker 1>you have such interesting ideas, and I'm trying to cover

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<v Speaker 1>completely different random subjects so I don't get bored. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to start with something unusual. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask you about aliens, all the alien talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the alien stuff is I think it's most interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>like right now, because you know, of course we have

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<v Speaker 2>like this summer drops, we have all the Epstein stuff

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<v Speaker 2>obviously coming up in the you know, the full release

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever they quote unquote The full release of the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein Files came out, you know, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of months ago, which is only half of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, yeah, it is nowhere near I mean, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting part is I want to say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you just tucking pages, I think they say, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein Files is probably about six million ish pages, seven

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<v Speaker 2>million pages. But as far as data goes, they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's they released like two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. And even the stuff they've released is so damning.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine what they haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the funny thing is so working in any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of digital media, like when they were describing how much

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<v Speaker 2>data it was, So I want to say that so

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<v Speaker 2>two percent is of two percent of fourteen I think

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<v Speaker 2>what fourteen point six terabytes of information? So if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about like a podcast we might record today, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be I don't know, eight gigabytes, ten gigabytes. You're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this Epstein file represents like fourteen thousand gigabytes

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<v Speaker 2>for almost fifteen thousand gigabytes. So the thing like that

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of get right away, or you should get,

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<v Speaker 2>is we're talking about as lots of videos because you're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about because if it was just pictures and documents emails,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no way you would it wouldn't There's no

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<v Speaker 2>way you could take up them by say they releave like.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the doc like the papers, but not the videos.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's so the thing is you got to think

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<v Speaker 2>there's what a lot of people believe is of course

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<v Speaker 2>there's cameras all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he did have cameras all over it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes there's a between him and Edmund and Broock whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he was the next Prime minister Israel about where they

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<v Speaker 1>could do it remotely, the system on and off, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were installing all these little cameras all over. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the New York place. But I would assume probably

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. Again, that's about the assumptions, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume they never searched. Were a ranch, right, This

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<v Speaker 1>were a ranch. Very that's where the darkest stuff happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Very suspicious, very suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>But but all that being said, it was interesting when

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff was really kind of just going around

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<v Speaker 2>the internet and X and everybody's talking about it. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, Barack Obama comes out on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like no one's ever heard of and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like it was. It was built just to

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<v Speaker 2>be a SoundBite. Yeah, Like he's saying that. The guy asked,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about aliens? Then he's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe they're real, and then he says he hasn't seen them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he tries to say, oh, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like what people think. They're not necessarily kept under Area

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one, some secret underground military base. And then of

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<v Speaker 2>course then he follows up by saying, so, what was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that you wanted to know when you became president?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, are there aliens?

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<v Speaker 2>And then so the guy drops like you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of like if you had Obama on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, and you get him to say something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so why follow ups?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you used to be like the follow up the

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<v Speaker 2>natural file would be like, so why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that they're real?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what makes you believe that they are? Did he not?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, he just dropped it out, just like I

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<v Speaker 2>said it was it was. It seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 2>put out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either a terrible interviewer or it's BS. Probably BS,

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<v Speaker 1>because why is Obama going on this podcast? Well? What

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting that now they're pushing they're telling us, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're aliens, it's real. That makes me less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, so that's what I'm saying. The timing of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I want to say it was either the

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<v Speaker 2>next day or two days later. Trump's getting asked about

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<v Speaker 2>it on Air Force One, saying, oh, did you hear

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<v Speaker 2>what Obama said about the aliens? And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's in really big trouble. You know it

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<v Speaker 2>was classified. He was saying inturaction, like what part of it? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what what part of what he said was classified? That's

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<v Speaker 2>the confusing part because like he just sang he believes

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<v Speaker 2>they're real, but he hasn't seen them, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>in area fifty one, so it is the classified part

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<v Speaker 2>that that they actually are in area fifty one, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't yeah right, that's the whole point, was it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seemed like this was put in here potentially

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<v Speaker 2>for a distraction against the Epstein stuff, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have obviously them shortly after this where at war with Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>And the hilarious thing was we played on my podcast

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<v Speaker 2>recently this clip. There was a show back in the

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<v Speaker 2>day called The Whitest Kids you Know, and it had

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who used to be like the main guy

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<v Speaker 2>on the actor of the show or the comedian Trevor Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys who's died mysteriously. There was this skit they did

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<v Speaker 2>a while back where he's playing the president and you

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<v Speaker 2>have like he has like the press Corps asked him

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<v Speaker 2>questions and he's talking about their secret moon base and

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<v Speaker 2>how it was taken over by bears with motorcycles and guns,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was saying that they might be in some

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<v Speaker 2>intern like uh like universal drug cartel with the Alliance

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<v Speaker 2>of Wizards, and so the press corps like getting like

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<v Speaker 2>this is crazy, and then but the one one, the

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<v Speaker 2>one reporter eventually asked him do we just invade Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>And then then he pauses and he's like, you got me,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like that that's real, Like that's real, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now relevant, that's literally what we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So he revealed a lot of stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to me, it's I think more people are

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<v Speaker 2>quick to pointing out. Now I want to say, Sean Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He had this explicit ray tirade talking about

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<v Speaker 2>like you're going to talk about aliens right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? Like that's what you want us to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Yeah, It's like I don't know, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure aliens have always been interesting, but you start

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<v Speaker 1>realizing it's kind of a sigh off and maybe aliens

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<v Speaker 1>were actually something else. Yeah, I mean I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came to the conclusion that aliens, I don't know in europeanion,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they might be like interdimensional or demons.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I think that a lot of the phenomenon could

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<v Speaker 2>be explained by supernatural things like you you have like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, angels can manifest physically in our spirits. Demons obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>they could make people believe that they saw aliens or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they potentially abducted. But I think it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>if you go away back to kind of where we

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of this come from, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>aliens was is like a relatively like new idea. They

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<v Speaker 2>probably would have been established and like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>with the War of the World. So when that book

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<v Speaker 2>came out and then eventually it goes to that radio

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<v Speaker 2>program where supposedly orson Wells and then fake everybody freaks

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<v Speaker 2>out because they think that there's actual an alien invasion.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's where was a really interesting book from the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties by this author, Bill Cooper, and he called it

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<v Speaker 2>Behold a Pale Horse. And so the whole basically the

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<v Speaker 2>gist of this book is is revealing all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that they have like through classified information about about the

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<v Speaker 2>alien phenomenon being real. When you get to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the book, you know, it's kind of twist at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, is he realized it's all bs. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's an effort for the government that is eventually going

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<v Speaker 2>to fake an alien invasion in order to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>consolidate more power and.

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<v Speaker 1>More power don't even have a name for that, like

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<v Speaker 1>Project Blue Beam.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Project Bluebeam. People associate that with this, and it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Project Blue Beam is the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>potentially they might have some kind of holographic image of something,

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<v Speaker 2>so like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just getting better now where they could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're through, you know, it's actually interesting. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man movie I want to say it was I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Far from Home. And so the villain

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<v Speaker 2>in that Spider Man movie was named Mysterio and in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie he set to like he wants to replace

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<v Speaker 2>Iron Man as like the hero, and so he's fighting

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<v Speaker 2>against like a fake threat in order to be the hero.

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<v Speaker 2>So how he does it in the movie is that

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a bunch of drones going together with like

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<v Speaker 2>making holograms. So it's like it they can actually do

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<v Speaker 2>physical things, but like whatever the image of the thing

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<v Speaker 2>he's fighting is is not real. So so that idea

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<v Speaker 2>is actually believe it or not, the CIA actually floated

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<v Speaker 2>an idea. I want to say it was Forgive Me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it was Project Mongoose, And it has

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with them trying to depose Castro in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of them on the Guest, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to. There's there's so many of it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>keep track, right, I've heard that term that could be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But what they were going to do was they

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<v Speaker 2>literally that you can look this up. They potentially or

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<v Speaker 2>they talked about the potential to fake the second Coming

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<v Speaker 2>of Christ and they were like literally going to like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, project Jesus coming down. They were going to

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<v Speaker 2>use like these wife when I say they were stars,

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<v Speaker 2>shellf flares, they were going to use like a loud speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were going to get Jesus to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban people to revolt against Castro whenever throw their government

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Like that is an actual thing that the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA was trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>No, people say the government does stuff now they don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. You can look at the insane stuff they've

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<v Speaker 1>done in the past. This is the stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>know they've done. Sure, there's lot of stuff they've got

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<v Speaker 1>away with well, you know, like the mk Ultra is

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<v Speaker 1>a good example which the mind control where they would

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<v Speaker 1>torture people, drug people without them knowing it. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people think that might have been connected with like Manton,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's some reasons why I think it's not random,

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<v Speaker 1>like the guys that were involved with that were like

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<v Speaker 1>in the hate Ashbury in that time. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, so there's that the government's done so many

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<v Speaker 1>bad things they talked out. I mean, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the Vietnam more they bombed one of our ships to

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<v Speaker 1>get in there. They talked about it. Back to Cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>they talked about bombing ash An America. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a plane or something, and JFK wouldn't sign off on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the CIA was mad at him along with Massage,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he got off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to say, gosh, what was there was? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of all the different operations. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's Operation Northwoods where they where they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to attack. Yeah, I want to say it was either

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<v Speaker 2>false flag attack. So if you think about like Operation

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<v Speaker 2>to me, I think that was a false flag. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, like what you're saying though, is that

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<v Speaker 2>when people talk about quote unquote conspiracies like this is

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<v Speaker 2>like a like this is like if you through freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of information acts, you can actually read these documents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It as crazy as it all sounds, it's like they

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I mean a good example is we caught Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>They is false flag attacks in Egypt attacking America and

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<v Speaker 1>that one's called a levant affair? That Yeah, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't even they didn't even care. But but no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting though, idea to go back to the alien stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's interesting. So the idea of them

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<v Speaker 2>potentially faking something, so it's kind of like you can

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<v Speaker 2>So like, Okay, so Trump's potentially going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>UAP and UFOs. But what's interesting is that, so you

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<v Speaker 2>eventually an alien invasion. Well, Warner von Braun, who was

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<v Speaker 2>like the one of the Nazi scientists who was responsible

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<v Speaker 2>the operation Paper Club. Now if you believe in the

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<v Speaker 2>moon landing, he's one of the main guys who got

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<v Speaker 2>us there. And his assistant said in the seventies that

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<v Speaker 1>Climate change could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, potentially, and then but the last card that they

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<v Speaker 2>were to play was the alien card. And so it's

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<v Speaker 2>all based on the idea that you know, in military

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<v Speaker 2>industrial complex. They're going to justify like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a space force, Like you know, so we have

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<v Speaker 2>a space force, we have all the while well I

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<v Speaker 2>mean everybody even forgets that that's like basically a new

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<v Speaker 1>What do they even do? What do they do? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just more money laundering probably, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it is just that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just as simple as that, as the fact that when

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<v Speaker 2>they now have different UAP departments in the government, more

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<v Speaker 2>it's I think mostly it's all a scam. The some

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<v Speaker 2>Alzondo is the main face of like the UAP stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on the news, and this guy was involved for counterintelligence

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<v Speaker 2>at the Pentagon. His job is literally trying to protect

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<v Speaker 2>our own secrets. But he's the one who's revealing all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. So it's likely the stuff that he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is trust the government and there is interesting stuff out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait real quick, I want to go since you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>moon landing or do you think we did or no? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>see I used to think we did. Now I leaned

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a strong opinionbody leaned towards We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like when you actually start looking at the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like even even I had a Ohen Benjamin and

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<v Speaker 1>was it Spencer, Richard Spencer, who's anti conspiracy theory, he

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<v Speaker 1>thought I thought each other. I'm like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>They got along great because he was already grown about

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<v Speaker 1>the conspiracies, but only just kept making so much Spence

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<v Speaker 1>that Spencer was just like, fuck, man, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got like you're making some good points. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The moonlighting stuff is just it's ridiculous. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>honestly ridiculous to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they say, like we we could go in this

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine look a much better technology? Is it everything? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We can't. What's a few of the things they say

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<v Speaker 2>On, well, they supposedly destroyed the tapes, they destroyed the

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<v Speaker 2>telemetry data. We wouldn't do that the technology altogether. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even really know what it means when they

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<v Speaker 1>Technology, destroy technology, and if we did, we could rebuild it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is so what people some say that

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<v Speaker 2>the reason it's difficult to get there, I mean, besides

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the very obvious it's far away. But but they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about something called the Van Allen Belt. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>this belt of radiation that it basically would ruin anything

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<v Speaker 2>that goes through it, and right, it would obviously it

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<v Speaker 2>affect kill the astronauts, right, And somehow they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to solve this problem in the sixties and in the

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<v Speaker 2>early seventies. But yet like that's not recorded anywhere. They like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did they do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then they don't even explain it. Huh No.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like it's like a it's like a major

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<v Speaker 2>way that when people say, oh, like, how could a

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy like that actually work because there were so many

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<v Speaker 2>people would have to be in on it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's I don't think it's like that because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's very.

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<v Speaker 1>Compartmentalized exactly exactlyized things.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So there might be actual really like well meaning

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<v Speaker 2>then but they don't bother to say, well, how did

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<v Speaker 2>we do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do they say? How we do? They don't

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<v Speaker 1>even mention that, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they ignore it. And the thing is when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about just even the idea of all that radiation,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have all this like all the filmmaking equipment

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that that's going through all this windness

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ruined when they ruin everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also look back of the technology, was there was

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<v Speaker 1>no like lag on the they ad a live screening,

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<v Speaker 1>there was like, wasn't there a wind on the flag?

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no wind on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, well, you can clearly see the flag

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<v Speaker 2>flipping and flapping like there's like it's in the breeze.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is, of course when they get to

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon, there's you can never see any stars, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's completely pitch black. Now what they try to

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<v Speaker 2>say is that it's because it's like during the daytime

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<v Speaker 2>when they're there, but of course you see what we

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<v Speaker 2>see is the Earth all lit up, super bright and

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<v Speaker 2>probably not proportionally the right size because you really think

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<v Speaker 2>about if you're on the moon, how big would the

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<v Speaker 2>Earth actually look from that vantage point?

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<v Speaker 1>When they made.

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<v Speaker 2>They made the Earth only basically appears maybe slightly bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than the moon appears to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bigger than the moon. I would think you would

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<v Speaker 1>think it would take it would take up the right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's but there's a there's a number of things that

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<v Speaker 2>just it makes no sense. And but if people want

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<v Speaker 2>to like walk you but then you actually look into it,

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<v Speaker 2>it does it. You know, we can't go there now

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<v Speaker 2>they destroy There's just so like a dozen holes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just like part of the mood names.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just so many things that don't add up. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The truth is that you have to almost kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put it back on the people. And this is what

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I like to do, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>when we discuss a lot of conspiracies, like what it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you actually believe in the first place? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>so the way that reason I would have believed it

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<v Speaker 2>for a while is if, for one, they told me

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<v Speaker 2>we did in school. For two, they got video of it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we got video of the spaceship, we got video from

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<v Speaker 2>the moon. But then when you start to examine some

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<v Speaker 2>of the video and you're like this looks really, this

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<v Speaker 2>looks really ridiculous. Honestly, this stuff looks looks dumb, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff where Richard Nixon is talking to them from

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<v Speaker 2>his Oval office, He's literally got a picture of the

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<v Speaker 2>Moon in the background, or the picture of picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon with Earth in the distance as he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the people on the moon. And I guess when

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about hi, I'm like, wait, a man, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a landline talking to the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this is really stupid esctually in nineteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, the truth is like the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like with almost everything that involves space, Like why if why,

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<v Speaker 2>if all this stuff is real, why do we see

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<v Speaker 2>composite pictures of Earth Like it's not real, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>all basically stitched together. And they talk about how they

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<v Speaker 2>have to photoshop in all the clouds and they can't

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<v Speaker 2>take a real picture. When you see satellites in space,

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<v Speaker 2>they are all fake, they're all they're all CGI. So

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<v Speaker 2>the real question be, well, if it's if this is

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<v Speaker 2>all real, why do you need to fake anything? Like

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<v Speaker 2>why do you need to use a fish eye lench

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<v Speaker 2>why are you using that kind of lens? To make

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<v Speaker 2>everything look curved, you know, like there's the questions that

421
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<v Speaker 2>just just come up, like like why do you believe

422
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<v Speaker 2>what you believe? And when you examine that, when you

423
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<v Speaker 2>when you examine the evidence, you're like, I don't know

424
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<v Speaker 2>that that that's actually worthy of accepting the narrative.

425
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<v Speaker 1>It was never a conspiracy theorist until I start like

426
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<v Speaker 1>actually start digging looking at things, or you talk conspiracy

427
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<v Speaker 1>theorists instead of just ignoring them, be like, okay, let's

428
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<v Speaker 1>look at their points. And you're a lot of times,

429
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<v Speaker 1>of course there's something that don't make sense, but a

430
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<v Speaker 1>lot of times they do and want to look at

431
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<v Speaker 1>Look at the thing that flew up there, that's the

432
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<v Speaker 1>shift the flu to the moon. That thing is like

433
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<v Speaker 1>this clinky like come on, that would have fallen apart.

434
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<v Speaker 2>The yes, like the module that came down it looks

435
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<v Speaker 2>like it was made a tinfoil.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

437
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<v Speaker 2>And the crazy thing is supposed like they've got part

438
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<v Speaker 2>of the rocket that they're gonna fly back and it's

439
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<v Speaker 2>going to lift off and then eventually come together and

440
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<v Speaker 2>then they're going to fly back to Earth. But the

441
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<v Speaker 2>funny thing is like, so I want to say it

442
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<v Speaker 2>was one of the last times they supposedly went. That's

443
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<v Speaker 2>where you get that video of like them, it's showing

444
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<v Speaker 2>the it's showing like the lunar modules and then eventually

445
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<v Speaker 2>it pans up and watches it go off into the distance.

446
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<v Speaker 2>And NASA says that somebody did that with their real

447
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<v Speaker 2>control from Houston, like on the moon they were they

448
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<v Speaker 2>were controlling it with something something, some kind of apparatus

449
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<v Speaker 2>from Houston to get the shot of them leaving, and

450
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<v Speaker 2>it it's like at their sole kinds of sparkles and stuff,

451
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<v Speaker 2>and it.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Looks it's it's like preposterous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most times, like as you said, the only

454
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<v Speaker 2>reason we really believed is because we never really looked

455
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<v Speaker 2>into it. We've never questioned it because now, of course

456
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<v Speaker 2>we questioned everything.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Now I trust the experts until COVID came along, and

458
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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, this is bullshit. And I haven't even

459
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<v Speaker 1>looked into like flat earth because if that's a lie,

460
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<v Speaker 1>everything's a lie. So I don't even want to go

461
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<v Speaker 1>down that rabbit hole.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing. You look into everything and it

463
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<v Speaker 2>is it's like, I mean, it was funny. I see

464
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<v Speaker 2>an Owen benjment on Owen Benjamin's like his uh I

465
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<v Speaker 2>think he's got like a five or six minute video

466
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<v Speaker 2>where he's showing like the progression he got to become

467
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<v Speaker 2>like a flat earther, and he's like he's going through

468
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<v Speaker 2>like all the stages of grief and it's it's actually

469
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<v Speaker 2>pretty funny, but I mean.

470
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<v Speaker 1>It's that's the time I was hanging with Eddie Bravo.

471
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<v Speaker 1>What he say. He goes, Yeah, man, I'm crazy because

472
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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that we're spinning around going like a

473
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<v Speaker 1>hundred million miles whatever it is, miles and miles hundred

474
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<v Speaker 1>million miles an hour through space, spinning on a ball. Like, well,

475
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<v Speaker 1>I'm the crazy one. You're like, Okay, that's an interesting

476
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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah perspective.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, I I you know, I believe

478
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<v Speaker 2>in biblical cosmology. I believe what the Bible says about it.

479
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<v Speaker 2>I do believe in a firment. I think what is

480
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<v Speaker 2>interesting about like the helocentric model. I think most people

481
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<v Speaker 2>don't even really know what it is. I think that's

482
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<v Speaker 2>what most reason why they accept it. And I think

483
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<v Speaker 2>what Eddie Bravo is talking about is that if you

484
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<v Speaker 2>actually see a model or like a like an illustration

485
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<v Speaker 2>of what the science says we're doing. It is unbelievable.

486
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like literally it's unbelievable because we're talking about like.

487
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<v Speaker 1>That's ridiculous the way he said it. I'm like, Okay,

488
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<v Speaker 1>maybe you have a good point that maybe.

489
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<v Speaker 2>You're it's like the idea that everything is hurling through space,

490
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<v Speaker 2>so like our galaxy is going through space. You have

491
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<v Speaker 2>us going around the Sun. So like, so the Earth

492
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<v Speaker 2>is spinning at one thousand miles an hour, we don't

493
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<v Speaker 2>perceive it, but then it's going I want to say,

494
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<v Speaker 2>around the Sun at probably sixty something thousand miles. Now

495
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<v Speaker 2>we're maybe sixty six thousand miles an hour, and then

496
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<v Speaker 2>the whole galaxy is going I think, like a million

497
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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour.

498
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<v Speaker 1>But then when you see the course, it's it's a

499
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<v Speaker 1>flying spinning ho.

500
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's you see the cork screwing and

501
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<v Speaker 2>and I gues said, I don't think most people know that.

502
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<v Speaker 2>That's what they say. They just know the Earth supposedly

503
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<v Speaker 2>spins around the Sun. Now, the thing that really kind

504
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<v Speaker 2>of tripped me out when I was starting to look

505
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<v Speaker 2>into some of that stuff is like the concept of

506
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<v Speaker 2>the zodiac. Okay, so how does the zodiac work?

507
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<v Speaker 1>Right?

508
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<v Speaker 2>That these things basically show us what season we're in

509
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<v Speaker 2>and they work all the time, right, it's they work perfect.

510
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<v Speaker 1>You used to use that to travel on sea and everything,

511
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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know that's what works. But people had

512
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<v Speaker 1>deep understanding of it where they could travel around to

513
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<v Speaker 1>different countries.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah they could, uh, they could use the celestial

515
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<v Speaker 2>objects to to to navigate the nautical navigation precise. But

516
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<v Speaker 2>the thing is, so when you think about the concept

517
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<v Speaker 2>of like the zodiac or just the heavens, you have

518
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<v Speaker 2>the north Star, right, and the north Star never moves. Yeah,

519
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<v Speaker 2>there's sort just stays and everything spins around the north Star.

520
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<v Speaker 1>So why what's the explanation for that? I never thought

521
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<v Speaker 1>about that.

522
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Supposedly we're angled tilted and we're it's really far away,

523
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<v Speaker 2>but it so we don't notice it.

524
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<v Speaker 1>Movement doesn't appear to move. Right.

525
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<v Speaker 2>So but if you think all together, okay, so if

526
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<v Speaker 2>we're all spinning and the galaxy's moving, right, if you

527
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<v Speaker 2>think about the concept, well then the other stars would

528
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 2>be moving too, right, they don't, and we're moving, they're moving.

529
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<v Speaker 2>But if you go all the way back to ancient Egypt,

530
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<v Speaker 2>there's what's called the Dandero zodiac. It's I want to

531
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<v Speaker 2>say that people estimated it's about four thousand years old. Okay,

532
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<v Speaker 2>So with that concept in mind, their constellations on this

533
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<v Speaker 2>ancient zodiac are the same ones we have today. And

534
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<v Speaker 2>so if you think about it, if we're all moving,

535
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<v Speaker 2>how come the same constellations remain they don't change?

536
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it should be switching.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine if like you're like you're driving in

538
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<v Speaker 2>a car, You're going down the highway and you have

539
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<v Speaker 2>rows of trees close to you, and then you have

540
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<v Speaker 2>rows of trees that are further away. Well, based on

541
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>their spatial alignment, they're going to appear to move based

542
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<v Speaker 2>on how fast you're going. So like the ones that

543
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<v Speaker 2>are obviously closer you do, they're going to be moving

544
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<v Speaker 2>faster and these ones are going to be moving much slower.

545
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<v Speaker 2>So the constellations have not changed, like even like moving

546
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<v Speaker 2>closer further away through you, they should change. So that

547
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<v Speaker 2>to me was was like just lines up what the

548
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<v Speaker 2>Bible says about how that the earth is stable things

549
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 2>tat around.

550
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<v Speaker 1>The old math was done that way. You think our ancestors,

551
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<v Speaker 1>like pretty much all the different countries put like insane

552
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<v Speaker 1>amounts of like studying and stuff into the stars. He

553
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<v Speaker 1>kind of ignored that.

554
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<v Speaker 2>Now, well it was I mean, just think about it.

555
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<v Speaker 2>If what the Bible describes in Genesis when fourteen, it

556
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<v Speaker 2>says that God put the sun, the moon, and the

557
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<v Speaker 2>lights or the stars in the sky for signs number one.

558
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<v Speaker 2>So if you think about signs, he's talking about basically

559
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<v Speaker 2>like like the what they call it in the Hebrew

560
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 2>cosmology call it the Masarath. That's basically just another name

561
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<v Speaker 2>for the zodiac. So he says he put him in

562
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<v Speaker 2>there for signs for seasons, for days, and for years.

563
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<v Speaker 2>So it's basically describing as the heaven. Heaven is a clock,

564
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<v Speaker 2>so keep track of time, and so it should be

565
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>able to tell you all those different ways to judge time.

566
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<v Speaker 2>And then of course, if you think about some of

567
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<v Speaker 2>the megalists around the world, they're set up based perfect

568
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>they're set up based on energy that cosma.

569
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<v Speaker 1>Wonder and we don't pay that attention to it, but

570
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>they clearly thought it was so important and they had

571
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>so much time and energy into that.

572
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have markers that are set up for the

573
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>solstices because because everything makes sense, that meant well, they

574
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<v Speaker 2>need to know when to plant, they need to know

575
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>when to it's it's about their harvest. You know. There's

576
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that that our seasons are based on when you do

577
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 2>certain things like when spring is, when summer is, when

578
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 2>fall is, like when winter. You have to know those

579
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>things in order to feed yourself, you know. So like

580
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 2>it's something that God had set up. So yeah, they

581
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 2>made these markers to be able to keep track of it.

582
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like literally life or death. You're not doing

583
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<v Speaker 1>that right. Well. Actually, once you go into farming versus

584
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>hunting gathering, and they say, originally they say we weren't

585
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, one hundred gatherers. I think they say we

586
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>went civilization like six thousand years ago, But if you

587
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>look back in Turkey, they've now uncovered how do you

588
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 1>pronounce it? Twelve thousand years ago?

589
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again that's like that's a man's best guess.

590
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody could really determine, like if

591
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<v Speaker 2>it was six thousand or ten thousand years old. I

592
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>mean I would say biblically, we've probably somewhere around six thousand,

593
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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand years.

594
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>It's been only like seven thousand years year of view.

595
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess the truth is like it's it's hard to

596
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>say exactly how much, but I would say biblically we

597
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>really only have like a The only way you could

598
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>really kind of do the math would be like Adam

599
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>to Jesus. Now, the interesting part from like I know

600
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>we talked about it before I could say that, I

601
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.799
<v Speaker 2>could tell you I believe what it says from Adam

602
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 2>to Jesus. It was this many years now the truth

603
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>be told. I can't tell you how many years it's

604
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>been from Jesus to now though, because because I'm a

605
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 2>little fuzzy on the years in between things like together, No.

606
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<v Speaker 1>You start realizing you can't trust the experts of the

607
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 1>history and like almost like the book nineteen eighty four,

608
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 1>they rewrite things, redo it. It's unfortunate reality because I

609
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>just I think there's definitely lost civilizations. Now how I

610
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have a strong opinion on how long they were,

611
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>but seeing like having seen going and seeing some of

612
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>this like rock work in foreign countries, like you know,

613
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>perfect example was prove that's that stuff you know it

614
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>looked at it or that was not built by like

615
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 1>the people that were there when the Spanish came, Yes,

616
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 1>we boilt it, we don't know. It's amazing rock work

617
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and some of the Egyptian stuff and stuff like Turkey,

618
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>if Turkey had all kinds of create underground cities like

619
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 1>cat like crazy castles, probably the mountains, Like you don't

620
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>really we don't read about Turkey history that much, but

621
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff we don't know about. I was there,

622
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Like they don't even know who made it.

623
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<v Speaker 2>No, for sure, you know it's interesting. So I started

624
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 2>reading this book called American Antiquities and Discoveries in the

625
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>West by Joseiah Priest. So it's a reprint of a

626
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>eighteen thirty three book, and it's talking from the sense

627
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of they they're discovering things around kind of Mississippi Valley,

628
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>all the mounds and weird things in America, and it's

629
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<v Speaker 2>theorizing how they got there. And the truth is from

630
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<v Speaker 2>a eighteen thirty three perspective. It's like they don't have

631
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<v Speaker 2>like established history books like we have now where they're saying, Okay,

632
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>this is the facts, Jake, like you believe this or

633
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a crazy person like me. But back then it

634
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>was normal to speculate about it because nobody really knew. Yeah, Like,

635
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>so they find all these mounds, and I said, I

636
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.799
<v Speaker 2>thought the really interesting thing was that this guy wasn't

637
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<v Speaker 2>necessarily coming to the conclusion that I'm that popped in

638
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<v Speaker 2>my head is lost civilization, A lot of civilizations like

639
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about. Is that what he was saying that

640
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>there's hundreds of thousands of mounds in America and lots

641
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>of them have you know, remains of humans in them,

642
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>or maybe giant humans. But they have them all throughout

643
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like the Mississippi River up and down the Mystieper River

644
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>from like Ohio down like tons around Missouri. And so

645
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>what this guy, Josiah Priest, was saying that, based on

646
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>the Native American populations that were described when the Europeans

647
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>got there, it could not justify all those amounts of

648
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>mounds and all the bodies that would have been in

649
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>the mounds. And so this was just me. This might

650
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>be a morbid thought, but I was like, why would

651
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>you ever need to bury people in a mound? To me,

652
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it seems like, is this like a purge?

653
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

654
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Because you really think about it, you killed so many people,

655
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>like you didn't have time to dig holes and put

656
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>them in. You buried them after they were a big pile.

657
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Of mass purge. Oh yeah, we just don't really know

658
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 1>the history well at all, right, because it could go

659
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 1>far beyond what we think. Yeah. The problem is, I

660
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 1>think with science history experts, once someone says an idea, oh,

661
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to question it. This guy says that.

662
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But then that was just some random guy before you

663
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 1>that came up with the theory. If you don't realize,

664
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<v Speaker 1>but once it's the theory that's in books, you're not

665
00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to question it. Yeah, on it.

666
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Once it's put in a history book, now it's a fact.

667
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.119
<v Speaker 2>But I mean that just some other guy that came

668
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>up with that. People don't realize it was just like, well,

669
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I think. That's That was one of

670
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>the things that always bothered me the most was that

671
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 2>that they present theories like their facts, because it's it's

672
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>like the theory of gravity, the theory of evolution, like,

673
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 2>but they're taught like their facts, when no, they're anything

674
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>butt facts. They're theories, but they're presented to people and

675
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>if you don't tell them it's a theory, well then

676
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>they're naturally going to think that they're facts. Now, what's

677
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>interesting in that book. It was also describing that the

678
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 2>people that were here when the Europeans got here, they

679
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>were every complexion basically under God's God's you know, God's

680
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.839
<v Speaker 2>green earth. So well, well, the point is, I guess

681
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>nat American really doesn't describe anything other than they were

682
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>here first. But it was saying that there were olive

683
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>colored people, tawny colored people, copper colored people, there was

684
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>black people like Africa, it was saying there was white

685
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>people here. And so that's it's a very different perspective.

686
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like what we would have thought. But it only

687
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>makes sense is that that the people who created pyramids

688
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>around here and did lots of things, and I have

689
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 2>theories about things being here.

690
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Longer advanced cultures than we were thought.

691
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>These people who could do great things over in America,

692
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, over in Europe and Africa and Asia, they

693
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>could get here on boats.

694
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>They could they could have gotten here on boats, like

695
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 1>there was an international society. Absolutely, that's how it seems,

696
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>because there was too many similarities that they all cared about,

697
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the alignments, they all had the same, like the serpent.

698
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Just too many similarities for it not to be You

699
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>mentioned giants earlier. There was hundreds of newspaper articles claiming

700
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to have found giant bones all across America, and now

701
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>that's just been disappeared. Conspiracy theorists like hundreds, if not

702
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>thousands of newspapers.

703
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there was, Yeah, in some of those mounds

704
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 2>they discovered giant skeletons. And yeah, the Smithsonian, who's supposed

705
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 2>to be responsible for I guess preserving history is like

706
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 2>directly like destroying it. I mean, there was a really

707
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>famous story, even not that many years ago, where they

708
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>dumped fifty I want to say, fifty thousand tons or

709
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not fifty thousands, fifty tons of mammoth bones

710
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>into the Hudson River.

711
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Why indeed, why like.

712
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Something so so a family from from Alaska donated these

713
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>bones and they dumped them in the Hudson River. So

714
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>there was actually a story. I think lots of people

715
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>were trying to scuba dive and try to find them

716
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>because it worth a lot of money.

717
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Now like why would that doesn't make any sense?

718
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Well exactly why would they do that? But if you

719
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>go look up, there's some really good YouTuber. It's actually

720
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>one of my friends named Derek Olsen. You should ProAb

721
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 2>get him on the show if you can, He's he's great,

722
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and he's documented tons of these old newspaper articles about

723
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 2>them discovering eight foot nine foot seven foot pole skeletons.

724
00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 1>You still can, But before an Ai was pulling up

725
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>all these old articles for me. Right, they're finding the

726
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>articles like something might go to this stuff because it

727
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>was confirming. Yeah, there was like one hundreds of them.

728
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah there was nine feet. I mean you could make

729
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the argument like, oh, maybe it was just selling newspapers.

730
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it was too many of them in

731
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.679
<v Speaker 1>all over different places. I think all kinds of different

732
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>countries have always claimed giants. Even I remember reading a

733
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 1>book of if. He was just one of the first

734
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Spanish explorers that we hear, and they were very detailed

735
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 1>all their attitude, latitude. They took their books very serious,

736
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and they were talking about going down the Amazon and

737
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>just massive societies and they stumbled across these people that

738
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>were like eight nine feet at one place. You know.

739
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 2>You know what's one that really fry your brain is

740
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the story about Maximist Thracks.

741
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>You ever heard of him?

742
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 2>No, this is the kind of stuff that they should

743
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 2>have taught us in history class, Like I don't know

744
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 2>why as a kid that I was never told that

745
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>there was a Roman emperor who was eight foot six.

746
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 2>What that's just it was named Maximus Thracks and they

747
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>said he wasn't just tall, of course, he was massive too.

748
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 2>And if you're eight foot six, is that not a giant,

749
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a giant?

750
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like yeah, with giganticism, are like what seven foot five,

751
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's like so aware it was owing over seven feet,

752
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like freakish.

753
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, the rare. It's so rare for somebody

754
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.280
<v Speaker 2>to be over seven feet. I don't I'm not exactly

755
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 2>sure what percentage of people of all time, supposedly based

756
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 2>on the science, has been over eight feet all but

757
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>eight foot six. Yeah, we're talking about age, you're talking

758
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>about eight you're talking about literal giants.

759
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, little giant literal giant fighting. There's been like some

760
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>seven foot people fall and that's but that's just like freakish.

761
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Like seven feet is just like a giant. So if

762
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>you go to like eight feet, that's like a literal giant. Yeah.

763
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So I just think it's interesting interressing histories and focus

764
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on the Holocaust and slavery.

765
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, I think It's the funny thing is to

766
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>go back what we were talking about is that I said,

767
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 2>if you really think how wicked it is to tell

768
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>every black person that they're in America, they're a descendant

769
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>of slaves, and then people like being you were the

770
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>ones who put them into slavery.

771
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we owned them and whipped them and abused them.

772
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>And so the truth is the very first slave owner

773
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.199
<v Speaker 2>in America was a black man. That's you can look

774
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>this up like that, even.

775
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 1>That like five years ago, Like that can't be true.

776
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Like literally Google confirmed that. Yeah, you can look at it.

777
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>That just doesn't match the history we're taught now. I

778
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, I don't any of us who don't

779
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 1>claim to have all the answers, but we can still

780
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>clearly see there's giant holes on what we're being taught.

781
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I think people need to, like, you know, work together

782
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to study this stuff and realize a lot of the

783
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>ship's completely lives. They've taught us, like a black man

784
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>was the first slave owner? Like, how is that? Well?

785
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>It does that does not push the division narrative agenda

786
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of white people bad black people were abused. Yeah, that

787
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>completely turns it upside down, right, so it's like that's

788
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just don't teach that. But that's the.

789
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Point, is like, but you're you're like, you're hamstringing people

790
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 2>here who are who are black, who didn't necessarily come

791
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.039
<v Speaker 2>from slaves, right, and you're putting that evil on them,

792
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 2>And then you're also putting that evil as you're putting

793
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that evil on people like me when my my family never.

794
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Owned exa slaves slaves, but they want to build this

795
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 1>like hatred only a small percentage of white people own them.

796
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, slavery was evil, there's no doubt about that,

797
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but like to make people better, to raise the people

798
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that some did it, but a lot didn't. Right, Absolutely,

799
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>so slavery all societies that owned slaves all throughout history.

800
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The first slavel in America was black. That's just so insane.

801
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And you see who owned the slave ships and hats,

802
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 2>the little hats did that. I mean, But I mean

803
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>that's the point, is like they want us to fight,

804
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, It's it makes perfect sense honestly, if you're

805
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're small, a smaller group, you want the bigger

806
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>groups to to be divided and you want them to

807
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 2>fight each other. And so we're constantly looking at each

808
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 2>other when it's somebody else who's literally stirring the pot.

809
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a brilliant evil. Yeah, it absolutely is.

810
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But no, the the whole stuff with history and all

811
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 2>of it is that the more I tried to research

812
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 2>things to realize, I just realized there was just large

813
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>gaps in our history and it was It's like I

814
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>was on a friend's podcast saying John Pounder's excellent podcast

815
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 2>or he was talking about it. Oh yeah, awesome. So

816
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>he he was talking about that what we really have

817
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in probably the last two thousand years quote unquote two

818
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>thousand years, it's like you have shadows of history Like

819
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like everything's very it's it's very murky.

820
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 1>There's there's like missing like centuries almost.

821
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Which I think that to me, that's telling just

822
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in itself, is that like, so why don't we know?

823
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>More like why is things like how do again even

824
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>like the idea of it's it's very clear there's tons

825
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>of evidence that they're lost civilization?

826
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how did they ever get lost? You know?

827
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that just that question in itself, it's like, well,

828
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>how didn't if people have been tracking things like how

829
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 2>why don't we know more.

830
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like it's deliberate, like there's been burning

831
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>of libraries. Even when they came to America, they had

832
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Mayas one of them. It

833
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a full in writing, but it was like this

834
00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>not type they went and destroyed all their writing.

835
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, the truth is that there's a lot of things

836
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 2>that they just don't tell us. What was another interesting

837
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 2>thing I learned about America would be that a lot

838
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>of Native Americans, who are like of the Indian person

839
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 2>would look would we consider like Indians. They worshiped a

840
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>god called Jehoah, which sounds almost just like Jehovah or Jehovah. Yeah,

841
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>so it's like they worshiped this god as the creator Yeehovah. Yeah,

842
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 2>it was. They were monotheists. They believed in one god

843
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and his name was Yehoah. And you're like, that is

844
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 2>really really close to what the Bible would be describing

845
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 2>as the creator of everything. And so what I found

846
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>interesting and we might have even touched on it last

847
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>time we were on the podcast. We talked about how

848
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>that the Franciscan Friars and Columbus, lots of them were

849
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>connecting these people they met in the New World as

850
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 2>coming from the Old World, potentially like the ten Lost

851
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 2>Tribes of Israel. Now, the thing that just really tripped

852
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>me out about that idea was like, what would make

853
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>them connect that. Of course it could be something like

854
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that that they worshiped a god called Yuhoah. Now, the

855
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>other thing was interesting in this book. It was kind

856
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 2>of theorizing that that Noah has three sons, right, and

857
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 2>this is where you kind of get like the difference

858
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 2>in the races. So it was saying that ham his

859
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 2>people go to Africa and yeah, he was likely darker skinned,

860
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and then you have jpass line. Jpeth goes to Europe

861
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 2>and because northern Asia he's white, he's white.

862
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And Shem.

863
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>It was theorizing that Shem was actually read and biblically.

864
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 2>It mentions how King David he was handsome and he

865
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>had a ruddy face. Well ruddy means red.

866
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, I'd never heard of red people.

867
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I mean, of course I don't know if

868
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 2>this is actually true, but I thought it was pretty

869
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>interesting that, like, why does it describe David as having

870
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a red face.

871
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Some people will say he has red hair, but it

872
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't say that.

873
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 2>It's the translation says that he's a handsome, ruddy face

874
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>when he was a youth, so he's got a red face.

875
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>So is that why Columbus and these people thought they

876
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 2>were connecting these people with Hebrews?

877
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean some of the old asked. I mean

878
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like paintings and stuff, but they looked like red.

879
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's just I mean, I guess the thing

880
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>is it's it's saying that again that not saying this

881
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>is accurate. What I'm saying is that these are the

882
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of questions people were asking the eighteen hundred's and

883
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, so why don't we know more?

884
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Like wow, because the experts have have it all figured

885
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 1>out now, right right, that's why the act, like history

886
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>is all figured out now. Yeah. I mean, like the

887
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>idea that you could be thrown in jail for questioning

888
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 1>in history, I mean there's only one event for that.

889
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Because we don't know things. Just like science, things were

890
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 1>always new. Things are being uncovered. We're discovering it that

891
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>history was literally it was put together by people sitting

892
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>there talking colors. I it some of it could have

893
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe been people with bad intent, like rewriting, Like we

894
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>look at who rights are textbooks. You probably know it's

895
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 1>blame Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, is the biggest textbook writer. Yes,

896
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 1>so they're probably deliberately deceiving us. And then you're supposed

897
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to just take it as like a face value. Well

898
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 1>here's a good example, here's a good to look at it. Okay,

899
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the news today we're fighting over what's trewe today. Look

900
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>how much fake propaganda the news puts out. And we're

901
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>supposed to just believe everything in these history books, like

902
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>we're crazy for asking questions, being like maybe this isn't true.

903
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, I mean, of course it's funny that I

904
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 2>know Tucker Carlson had my Kaka Beyond, and of course

905
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>he's talking about Christian Zionism, and of course, I you know,

906
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that really takes my interest because it's like I study

907
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of this stuff, and so he's asking a

908
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of great questions. But it's interesting to know where

909
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>like the people who who live in quote unquote Pile

910
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Sign or the land of Israel or land of Canaan,

911
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, like where they're actually from.

912
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pull, and well you know it's really interesting.

913
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>So I think this is like important biblically, but it's

914
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>more importantly because because of geopolitics and the warst we're in,

915
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 2>is that the way people are established if they're Jewish

916
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>or not today based on like modern Jewish interpretation of

917
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>like the Talmod is that you're Jewish based on having

918
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a Jewish mother.

919
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Right.

920
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's why this doesn't work, or at least this is why

921
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>this is not defensible for a Christian to have that view,

922
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 2>is because in the Bible, the genealogies are based on

923
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the patriarchs. Like so the man so like, you're a

924
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>son of Like, you're a son of Adam, You're a

925
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 2>son of Seth, you're a son of Noah.

926
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was weird to the mother when typically

927
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like exactly the Christians, like you say, who your father was?

928
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>That's right, you're we have so much pride in your

929
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 1>father's name too. The name meant so much. That was

930
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, the positive of that, I mean,

931
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 1>the bad is that if your father were shameful, you know,

932
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>look look, look down upon. But there's also something prideful.

933
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, I gotta hold up my family name.

934
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, but that's that's how we still basically

935
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>do things. Is that like, if we don't have sons

936
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to give our son's name our name, then eventually our name.

937
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Could be gone. Right.

938
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.679
<v Speaker 2>No, obviously our lineage would still live on if we

939
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>have daughters. But the point is like that God establish

940
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 2>in order, and God made certain promises to certain patriarchs.

941
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Like so the main reason we have kind of the

942
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>faith that we do is God made a promise to Abraham,

943
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was talking about one of his descendants would

944
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>eventually bless all nations, and he's promising his descendants this land.

945
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 2>So then based on the way the Bible goes, you

946
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>have Abraham, you have a son Isaac, you have Jacob,

947
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 2>then you get bound down to King David, and so

948
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 2>King David if you look at so that's why it's

949
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>important if you actually read the genealogies, you know this

950
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.800
<v Speaker 2>is what you can see a line from Adam, Abraham,

951
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>David Jesus.

952
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 1>You can see it through.

953
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>So all these these promises were kept this line, and

954
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like, this is how a kingship was. What he

955
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>was established with David was that one of his descendants

956
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 2>would he would have a descendant that would be on

957
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the throne forever. That's why we say Christ is king

958
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 2>because praise God, that came true. Now, But what Judaism

959
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.599
<v Speaker 2>is telling us now is it's through the mother. And

960
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>what's really crazy about that is the fact that so

961
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 2>you think about like a Millennish not Millennius Trump, but

962
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Avanka Trump. Yeah, she conversed to Judaism, right, but her

963
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>kids basically Jewish. Yeah, her kids will be considered Jewish

964
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>based on her conversion. Okay, So how crazy is that?

965
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Though? So now we're seeing like a Mike Huckabee. He's

966
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 1>not Jewish at all genetically, right, but he's kind of

967
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 1>weird that Jared Kushner married an on jew but he's

968
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 1>so extreme. I mean, there's rumors of Trump being Jewish.

969
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>His brother was in a Jewish fraternity, his father was

970
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>friends with Nan who.

971
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>But that's the funny part about all, just like just

972
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>this conversation in general, It's like we're obviously not talking

973
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 2>about a genetic thing, because if Trump's Jewish, Rasy not Jewish.

974
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Like the point is like she was confusing, I think intentionally,

975
00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>is it a religion? Is it a race? But then

976
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 1>there's several races of it.

977
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, that's the thing is if you watch

978
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 2>that debate with well, not necessarily debate the conversation between

979
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Tucker and Mike Huckaby. It's very confusing because like it's

980
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 2>very confusing based on like Mike Kookabe trying to justify

981
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 2>with the Bible. But then we're like killing is it?

982
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it a racial thing or is it a religion? Well,

983
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it's most certainly a religion. But I mean, then we

984
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 2>have the people that are supposedly racially Jewish who are

985
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>secular atheists, they don't believe any of this stuff, and so,

986
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 2>but it is absolutely insane to think that so one

987
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>day Jared Kushner and Ivanka's kids could be considered entitled

988
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to the land of Israeli.

989
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Jewish even though right, yeah, I know. Example, Okay, these

990
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>are two perfect examples how ridiculous it is. And one

991
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 1>person they're a quarter Jewish, but it's mom's side, mom's size.

992
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Another one that's three quarters Jewish, but it's one of

993
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the dad from the dad's side. So the one that's

994
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a quarter of Jewish is considered Jewish. The person there's

995
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>three quarters Jewish is not considered Jewish or Jewish law

996
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 1>the city. Well, the whole thing is insane.

997
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 2>But the funny part would be like, so again, if

998
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 2>the Bible establishes an order based on the fathers, well

999
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I can show you clearly it has nothing to do

1000
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>with the moms really, because the story goes in like

1001
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the first Sons of of Jacob who becomes Israel, or

1002
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 2>like Joseph, the story of Joseph, Joseph goes to Egypt,

1003
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>he becomes like second in command, like the second in

1004
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>charge of all of Egypt. Well, he's given a wife

1005
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 2>who's Egyptian. So right away, like the whole kind of

1006
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 2>who the mom is is really not that important. Even

1007
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 2>David King David his great grandmother was named Ruth, and

1008
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Ruth was what the Bible describes the Mobite woman. And

1009
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>then well it's it's a it's a different line. So

1010
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>like you had, like Moab came from Abraham's nephew's line.

1011
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 1>So the Bible shows that it's more important than man. Well,

1012
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's I guess.

1013
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess that at the end of the day, there

1014
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 2>needed to be a genetic bloodline to get to Christ

1015
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 2>because he's made because because I made a promise with you,

1016
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 2>so I have to fulfill this promise like genetically. But

1017
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the truth is it was all based on like I

1018
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 2>just promised you, and if you believe my promise, then

1019
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 2>this is what makes you one of God's people. So

1020
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>that's why I like that when we have this debate

1021
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 2>about who are the chosen people? Well, the Bible says

1022
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that the heirs of Christ, that Christians had their names

1023
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 2>written in the Lamb's Book of Life before the foundation

1024
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 2>of the earth was late. Okay, So to me that

1025
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>seems like a chosen person because if your name was

1026
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 2>already in the book before you were born, then God

1027
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 2>chose you, and the people who reject Jesus cannot be

1028
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 2>chosen because obviously the Bible says there's only one way

1029
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>to go to heaven, right, so like the person who

1030
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 2>was supposedly chosen is going to hell, the person who

1031
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote was not chosen is going to be in

1032
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>heaven with God forever.

1033
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.039
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't make any sense, this manipulation, this works

1034
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:04.679
<v Speaker 1>so well.

1035
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.719
<v Speaker 2>It's all it's it's all inversion. But I say, I

1036
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>just think it's really it's striking to see that that

1037
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you can actually like Jesus is basically the only person

1038
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>who can actually has the receipts left to be able

1039
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to tie himself back to King David, who the promise

1040
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:22.079
<v Speaker 2>was to. So now we have like these uh the

1041
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 2>was Chabad Lubitch and they're trying they want this idea

1042
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>of this third Temple, and they're looking for the mashi Ok.

1043
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 2>They're looking for the new Messia to come through this. Now,

1044
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the interesting part about that is they could never prove

1045
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>that they're related to David.

1046
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, but but Christ can.

1047
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Because that's why it's like the people think the genealogies

1048
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible are boring, but it's important because it's

1049
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 2>establishing this thing. And so what's fascinating is that in

1050
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 2>seventy a d God judged Jerusalem and destroyed the temple

1051
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and destroyed Jerusalem altogether, burn it to ground.

1052
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Now it's what's burned it down?

1053
00:50:56.679 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, Jesus told the parable of the wicked tenants,

1054
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and we talking about the kingdom is going to be

1055
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 2>taken from you and it's going to be giving to

1056
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>people more fruitful. So like that's the idea of like

1057
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 2>that this was promised to you, but you guys rejected it,

1058
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:10.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'm giving it to everyone.

1059
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he literally attacked the temple with a whip,

1060
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 1>so obviously he didn't find them very.

1061
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.000
<v Speaker 2>No, he well, and again he's the thing is like

1062
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 2>if you if you go away from out of town

1063
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 2>and you come back, the first thing you do is

1064
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>take care of your own house. You get your own

1065
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>house in order. Yes, so that's what That's what Christ

1066
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 2>is basically saying he's going to do. So you want

1067
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>to you want to clean house first at your own house.

1068
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 2>So what ends up happening is that yourself first. And

1069
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>then that during this during the captivity with Babylon, you know,

1070
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you had all these people dispersed around the world. There's

1071
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 2>this decree by King Cyrus to come back and them

1072
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.239
<v Speaker 2>come back into the landa Judea. And so in the

1073
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Book of Neami, eventually these these people come back and

1074
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to prove their lineage that they actually are

1075
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.400
<v Speaker 2>part of the twelve tribes. But the really important part

1076
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>is the fact that they're established like a levite, like

1077
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 2>this is the priest's class. This is like who like

1078
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the first high priest would been Aaron, the brother of Moses,

1079
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and so these are the people who are have the

1080
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 2>duties at the church or the temple. Sorry, and so

1081
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 2>when they rebuild the temple, So these are obviously going

1082
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to be the priest there.

1083
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1084
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, so then eventually they rebuild this temple, and not

1085
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 2>everyone can prove that they're actually even even back then,

1086
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>well even back.

1087
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Then it sounds like amies.

1088
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Well even back then they couldn't all prove it, but

1089
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 2>obviously some of them could. And then obviously the other

1090
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 2>important thing is to have that lineage back to David,

1091
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 2>because you have this promise, and this is part of

1092
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>what makes them believers in God. Well, in seventy a d.

1093
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>The all the records, all the genealogies were kept in

1094
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the temple. So when God not only wiped out this

1095
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 2>old system, he wiped out all memory of who was related.

1096
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's why they have this inversion

1097
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 2>where now they're trying to say it's based on the

1098
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 2>mother's side. It's literally like a slap to God. And

1099
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I think, I mean, I think in God's providence, Yeah,

1100
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he wiped out this old the system that could not

1101
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 2>be practiced anymore, and then he wiped out their genealogies too.

1102
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 2>So now like the basically the last person can tie

1103
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>themselves to a king of Israel was Christ in Christ

1104
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 2>is king.

1105
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it has to be. But that's well, well off,

1106
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.199
<v Speaker 1>if you go to Israel now it's isn't illegal to

1107
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>even get a DNA test.

1108
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, I mean the thing about it is, it's

1109
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.519
<v Speaker 2>just it's kind of funny. I think that, Like the

1110
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty three and meters stuff. I think mostly it's a scam.

1111
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think most of it's done Like, hey, Jews, I

1112
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>would never send my stuff now, it's like, no, I

1113
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>don't trust it all. It's like, really, at this point,

1114
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 1>we have no way of knowing for sure who's traced

1115
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>back there, but it would say it's probably not the

1116
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Asnosky Jews.

1117
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, the that's the funny thing is you've mentioned like

1118
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the Asconazi Jews.

1119
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 1>So there's several, you know, types of Jews where you

1120
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>get complicated.

1121
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Well right, well, I want to say, I forget the

1122
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 2>name is it? I think it's is it hispartic Jews

1123
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and Ascaranology Jews take a big portion of the population

1124
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 2>in Israel. Tech well, the ones from Spain, they're conversions,

1125
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 2>they're Spanish conversions to Judaism, right, and so so likely

1126
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the people in Oshkanas's line, then Ascianology persuasion, they came

1127
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>from a place called Kazar, the Kazarian Empire, and so

1128
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 2>there's this kingdom that at one point was made up

1129
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, but then royalty had them

1130
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 2>convert to Judaism to practice usury, and so eventually, I

1131
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.119
<v Speaker 2>want to say it was the they called them the Roofs.

1132
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 2>They were likely of people that came from somewhere maybe

1133
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 2>around Norway, and they came in and conquered the Kazarians.

1134
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>And this is like the modern Russians. So then these

1135
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 2>people from this one kingdom go to basically where like

1136
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Germany as German area, and that's what we call Oshkinaz.

1137
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that's what they're all the ones that run

1138
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, Israel, like all the prime ministers are from

1139
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 1>like Poland they all change their names to a sounding

1140
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>number like it. So it's like this isn't crazy, Like

1141
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 1>that's literally where they're from. You look at their skin complexion.

1142
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 1>They're not Middle Eastern.

1143
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, I think they say, there's a great there's a

1144
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 2>there's a high percentage of people who are have allergies

1145
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to olive olive plants. Oh yeah, which just seems like

1146
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.599
<v Speaker 2>he's a little weird. He was a little weird if

1147
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>that's actually.

1148
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Where you're going to give you land that you're not from.

1149
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a strange thing. And like they're trying to

1150
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 1>He goes yesterday and you know he was talking about

1151
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 1>bringing back their Messiah, which their messiah is not our Messiah.

1152
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. It is.

1153
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.239
<v Speaker 2>So again, this whole thing, this whole concept, is a

1154
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 2>denial of that the Messiah did come. And I said,

1155
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it's it's like, as a Christian,

1156
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>it's it's I would like to make this case to

1157
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody who's a skeptic, who is who is who actually

1158
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 2>is a believer? And I guess what they call, you know,

1159
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the Torah or like whatever they believe is their version

1160
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of keeping the law. If Jesus was not who he

1161
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>said he was, and they rightfully rejected him in the

1162
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>first century, then why did God and down their city

1163
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 2>and burned down their temple?

1164
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Point why did being a Christian? Why did so many

1165
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Christians look up Like, Okay, they say their God's chosen,

1166
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a little confused. If they killed Jesus they

1167
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.599
<v Speaker 1>think he's burning in hell. I just don't they're trying

1168
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to bring back quick to anti christ all these Christians

1169
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Zionists are trying to help him do it. It's just

1170
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>completely confusing to me.

1171
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about that a little bit on the

1172
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:28.199
<v Speaker 2>podcast about just that this is like the biggest siop

1173
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Ever's do you have? Church history establishes this idea that

1174
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 2>that eventually the spiritual descendants of Israel are actually Israel,

1175
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like the Church has become the Israel of God. Because again,

1176
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 2>it's it was about that Abraham was not Jewish. People

1177
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>think that's crazy, but no, he was actually what they

1178
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>consider like a Hebrew, But Hebrew was just a relation

1179
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to Eber and what the Hebrews were were kind of

1180
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.800
<v Speaker 2>like nomadic people. That's kind of what Abraham was. He

1181
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was like he moved from a place he knew to

1182
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a place that God promised him. Now, but it had

1183
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with like who Abraham was related because

1184
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, like if you believe the

1185
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Biblical story, it's like you have this line that's coming

1186
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.159
<v Speaker 2>through and there's no guarantee where it's coming from. People

1187
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.480
<v Speaker 2>believe that Abraham was the son of an idol maker

1188
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 2>from from Babylon, right, So like it's not about that,

1189
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 2>it's more about that Abraham believed God and that was

1190
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 2>the reason he was given these promises. So that's why

1191
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual descendants would also believe in this original promise

1192
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 2>to him, and so that the people who deny that promise, right, it's.

1193
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>A were you a Christian Zianist at one point? I guess.

1194
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess I was because I didn't really realize what

1195
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 2>it was about by default. It's kind of like, yeah, well,

1196
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess the thing is like that, you know,

1197
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.440
<v Speaker 2>when you grow up in you know, like early twenties,

1198
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>like nine to eleven happens. Yeah, And you know, I

1199
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>was taught very clearly to the Muslims dead right. It

1200
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>was radical Muslims. They hate me because I'm Christian. They

1201
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.440
<v Speaker 2>hate America because it's free, and that's basically it.

1202
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 1>They done a great job of like teaching us that,

1203
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember it were hardcore Zionists. But I kind of was.

1204
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Then I visit some of the Middle Eastern countries to

1205
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.159
<v Speaker 1>treat you great. The visit Israel, I could just kind

1206
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of tell they are lying about things, and that's why

1207
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking into like how they're treating the Palestinians.

1208
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, So you know, but once I spend my adult

1209
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 2>life watching these Forever Wars, and I'm like, oh wow.

1210
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And then of course when you start to when you

1211
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 2>start to go down the rabbit hole, you're lifting guys,

1212
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 2>these things are all lies. So most of these things

1213
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>are lies. And and the thing is what Muslims actually

1214
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>believe is what they call Jews and Christians. They call

1215
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.639
<v Speaker 2>them people of the Book. So what the Kuran actually

1216
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>does is validate what the Bible says, which is kind

1217
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 2>of contradicts itself by doing that.

1218
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:52.199
<v Speaker 1>But it is very similar to religion. They love and

1219
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 1>adore Jesus. It's not quite the same. No, it's not

1220
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>quite the same as as God, but it's like no,

1221
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.119
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, but the interesting part about it is

1222
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like love. Is that if they are true practicers

1223
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of the of the Korean, then they would not hate

1224
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:08.719
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm Christian because their book tells them not to.

1225
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 1>So what it actually does say is that when people

1226
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 1>think about like why they can be violent towards people.

1227
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 1>If you have a Muslim who's an apostate, whether he

1228
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 1>converts to Judaism or Christian or anything, well then it

1229
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 1>does give them license to to kill, to stone the infidel. Now,

1230
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 1>but but again that it has something to do with

1231
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 1>their own apostate. It's not if I'm born in a

1232
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Christian country that's like that sect of like being pushed

1233
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>through Saudi Arabia where they teach them. Most of the

1234
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 1>extremists all come through the hobbyism, which is funded by

1235
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia. Who's our good ally whenever about nine to

1236
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>eleven that was all Saudi's and suppose well, yeah, it

1237
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.400
<v Speaker 1>really was a little Saudi connection, but yeah, there's rallies.

1238
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was whatever wherever they were from, they were

1239
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.039
<v Speaker 2>connected with our own three letter agencies from Yeah, exactly.

1240
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>So I take the gun at it is Massa. I

1241
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was kind of ahead of it. The Saudi Arabia. This

1242
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>guy helped, yeah for sure.

1243
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, when you when it comes down to it,

1244
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you you started to see that what they told us

1245
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.360
<v Speaker 2>to hate the other people there and to justify by

1246
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 2>saying that they are just crazy and they just hate

1247
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:18.239
<v Speaker 2>us for being.

1248
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Us, they hate us for our freedom. That's not true. Now.

1249
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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it is funny if you go to like Israel

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01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:24.679
<v Speaker 2>and you wear like a cross, like if I was

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01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.360
<v Speaker 2>wearing my cross necklace over here, there's a good chance

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01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd get spit on in Jerusalem, right, And so that's.

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01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Crazy that actually paying them all the money. And you

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01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 1>see there was this guy was just something Tatum. He

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01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 1>was Officer Tatum. He's like he's one of those paid propagandas.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, man, I only got spit on by

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01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 1>one kid when I was there. I wasn't treated that bad.

1258
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Like I've never had a kid spit on me. The

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01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>kids spit on me, I'll smacked the shit a little funk.

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<v Speaker 1>They come by and there's these videos that yeah they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming by spitting on people. They look like demon possessed,

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01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:53.280
<v Speaker 1>just like circling them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, where I come from getting spin on

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01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:57.760
<v Speaker 2>one time as a lot. Oh yeah, I've never had

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01:00:57.760 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a kid spit on it one one time. It's like

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01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 2>smacking out of that can when time is too many.

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01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so like so that's the contrast though, and

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01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.320
<v Speaker 2>we would think that, hey, wait a minute, we really

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01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.440
<v Speaker 2>loved them, We pray for them, we send money to them,

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01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:11.840
<v Speaker 2>like why would they hate me?

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01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't get that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it so is there's a there's obviously again this

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01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 2>is inversion. But again when I think what most people

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01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 2>up was the most recent war in Gossam. I think

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01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>at this point I was already condu I was already

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01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 2>understanding it, but saying, but like when they first said, yeah,

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01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>when they first talked about October seventh, and this is

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01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 2>obviously by the time, I'm like fully awake to everything,

1279
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 2>well not everything. I could say, I guess I can't

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01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 2>say I'm not awake to.

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01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Think I'm still waiting. I'm still I know there's still

1282
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.519
<v Speaker 1>so much to learn. Once you start waking up your relationship,

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01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:46.119
<v Speaker 1>everything is alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But when I when that happened and they were

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01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>literally selling this thing as Israel's nine to eleven, and

1286
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of course for me that was very triggering because I

1287
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're saying that it's a false flax so

1288
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you can justify war, Like that's exactly what you're saying.

1289
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And even Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk was on Patrick bed

1290
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 2>David saying basically the exact same thing he was He

1291
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.039
<v Speaker 2>was saying, but he wasn't really saying. He was saying, like,

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01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 2>how do you have a like a state the size

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01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of New Jersey Israel where you could ride up and

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01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 2>back in forty five minutes?

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01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>They gave him like hours, like six or seven hours.

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01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Been there just country. There's military everywhere, military basis everybody's idea,

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01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Like other people were killed, everybody's he even killed their

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01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 1>own with the patchy helicopters. Yea, go sacrifice Jewish people too,

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01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what I mean all Jewish people. It's like

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01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 1>the ones the top though, they are like trying to

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01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>bring in this anti christ Like, yes, I realized they

1302
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 1>deeply believe in this religion. Doesn't matter if I believe

1303
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:42.719
<v Speaker 1>in it. They believe in it and they're trying to

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01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>accomplish it.

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01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's again it's kind of like saying,

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01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 2>like the way I think people kind of get some

1307
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.280
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff. It's confusing because it'd be like saying

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01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Americans are Christian country, so therefore any act that America

1309
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.039
<v Speaker 2>does is done by Christians in the same way we

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01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>would say like that just because somebody's in Israel and

1311
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 2>they're considered Jewish. We just already talked about how lots

1312
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 2>of people who are considered considered themselves Jewish are actually

1313
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>secular humanists, they're atheists, they don't believe in anything like that.

1314
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 2>In the same way that just because something happened in

1315
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia. We're gonna blame Muslims for it when they're

1316
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:27.199
<v Speaker 2>obviously not living like Muslims, you know. I guess that's

1317
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the thing. It's like we that's part of probably the

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01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:32.039
<v Speaker 2>reason they want us to fight, right because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because because we hang out, you realize you're also similar.

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01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can hang out with Jewish Christians Muslims

1321
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:37.599
<v Speaker 1>and get along great.

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01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, yeah, the truth is, I think again, it's

1323
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.199
<v Speaker 2>it's about like we're talking about with you know, white

1324
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 2>people versus black people. They want us to fight. Yeah,

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01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.280
<v Speaker 2>So the point is that what well meaning people should say,

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01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.679
<v Speaker 2>be like, if some person who claims to be a

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01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Christian does something that's not Christian, I don't have to

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01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 2>support them because that what they did was evil, that

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01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.280
<v Speaker 2>was a sin, and we would be all better if

1330
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 2>we just called them like, just called them like took

1331
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 2>each individual case. But all that being said, when you

1332
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.039
<v Speaker 2>see what they did to Gaza, it's just evil.

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01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It's pure evil.

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01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't you can't see what that place used to

1335
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.599
<v Speaker 2>look like and looks like. Now, I'm not getting mad

1336
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 2>if you have a heart and soul on through videos,

1337
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Hee went to the dudes of children and laughing. It's just

1338
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that's just an evil. Like I knew the Israel had

1339
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.440
<v Speaker 2>too much control of America. I knew some of this stuff,

1340
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 2>but the extent of it. And then seeing Gaza and

1341
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:30.519
<v Speaker 2>seeing our politicians, yeah, double down supporting them. And then

1342
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the Iran war that they just launched. Like you said,

1343
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 2>they didn't sell it. They just pushed the Iran war

1344
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.280
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. And I don't think it benefits America.

1345
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 2>And I see nothing nothing positive this can come of

1346
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 2>this war. No, I can't. Maybe Israel, but even then

1347
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.800
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of getting a little you know. No, it's

1348
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.159
<v Speaker 2>creat well, no, I mean it's it's it's absolutely crazy.

1349
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I would say that the reason why Trump got elected,

1350
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, isn't is because he was saying he didn't

1351
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>want this exactly. You know, if he would have, if

1352
01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:04.039
<v Speaker 2>he would have ran on this. Do you think that he.

1353
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:04.320
<v Speaker 1>He went to one?

1354
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 2>No, no, because I don't think because he was running

1355
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 2>as like a peace president.

1356
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:07.920
<v Speaker 1>He was.

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01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, I saw this clip was going around. It

1358
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 2>was might have been two thousand and fifteen, twenty sixteen.

1359
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:19.599
<v Speaker 2>He's mocking Lindsey Graham, right, like totally mocking him saying

1360
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 2>how he's the dumbest guy. He's crazy, he's gonna get

1361
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 2>us and he wants to get us into World War three.

1362
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:27.679
<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't be able to win his dog catcher in

1363
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. And now their buddies. It's like there there

1364
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.519
<v Speaker 2>was like he gets all excited about blowing up kids.

1365
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:37.320
<v Speaker 2>He's like it was like this evil like PA have

1366
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:41.079
<v Speaker 2>tapes to him with like little children. I can't imagine.

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01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not something probably worse than we would ever to imagine,

1368
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 2>because the way he seems truly evil. Yeah, you know,

1369
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you can see all the clips. I want to say,

1370
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 2>was it was it two years ago that there was

1371
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.639
<v Speaker 2>that hurricane I think that devastated parts of North Carolina

1372
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and South Carolina. There was forty nine people in South

1373
01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Carolina who were killed by this hurricane.

1374
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And so he was on.

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01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Sean Hannity and he was saying, yeah, you know, I

1376
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:07.039
<v Speaker 2>went all around the state and visited and I could

1377
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:09.840
<v Speaker 2>barely sleep. But I want to talk about Israel. And

1378
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.039
<v Speaker 2>he said, let's talk about how they don't have enough

1379
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:14.679
<v Speaker 2>weapons for their defense and all this. And I'm You're like,

1380
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like I don't it's I don't even understand

1381
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:22.360
<v Speaker 2>how even if it is money, even if I mean,

1382
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it has to be major blackmail to be able to.

1383
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they give him a little kids to

1384
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 1>kill or something. There's something, here's something he's dark and evil.

1385
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it goes something truly evil with that man.

1386
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 1>He Yeah, when he starts talking about talking up and

1387
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.679
<v Speaker 1>excited about people of Israel, I wish we could be

1388
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. Like it's just.

1389
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.679
<v Speaker 2>It's well, I mean, even like Ted Kruz. Ted Cruz

1390
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.119
<v Speaker 2>actually just came out. It was funny. We were I

1391
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.320
<v Speaker 2>just saw a clip of him talking about how that

1392
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.880
<v Speaker 2>christis King is used by groypers and it's it's of course,

1393
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's racist, it's racism. It's anti semitic to say that.

1394
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And he even tries to say that what did he

1395
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>say that? Back when I was kind of coming up,

1396
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we used to say Jesus saves and what did he say?

1397
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Jesus loves you? And he was like, I don't know

1398
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 2>where the Christ is King stuff has come from. You're like,

1399
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 2>because like you like you're mocking Christ's lawyership, Like you like,

1400
01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:16.599
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean He's not king? It's like he

1401
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 2>is king? And so like but you're like, you're supposed

1402
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 2>to believe that. And he was even going on to

1403
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 2>say that, oh, in this idea that that the Jews

1404
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 2>killed Jesus, it's like that's in the Bible.

1405
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 1>It's also in the mood in the Talmood, they admit it,

1406
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:31.559
<v Speaker 1>and they say they carried out the execution.

1407
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Well's it was prophesied, and of course it

1408
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 2>happened in the way that did. The Jews handed him

1409
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.800
<v Speaker 2>over to the Romans to be crucified. But I mean,

1410
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 2>the funny thing, it'd be like it'd be like if

1411
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I hired a hitman to kill somebody for me, and

1412
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it'd be like, well, I didn't kill him, like I

1413
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't pull the triggers, therefore I'm innocent. Like that's not

1414
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:55.960
<v Speaker 2>how the Bible sees it. Because that Steve, Steve in

1415
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the martyr who got right before he got stone, he

1416
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:02.360
<v Speaker 2>told me, he's like, you still people, You guys always

1417
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 2>resist the Holy Spirit, which not of God's prophets who

1418
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:08.360
<v Speaker 2>prophesied about the Righteous One to come? Did you guys

1419
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 2>not kill and you know, and persecute? And then he says,

1420
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and the Righteous One when he came, you betrayed and

1421
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 2>murdered him. This is what he says, right before they

1422
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 2>pick up stones to kill him with it. Peter says

1423
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.159
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, the apostle apostle, Paul says the same thing.

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01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like, of course, that's like, that's just what the

1425
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Bible says. And that's the crazy thing. When they started

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01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to get into the idea of like that they consider

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01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 2>that blood liveable, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be as these laws anti semitic. I don't

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01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:39.680
<v Speaker 1>know if you saw, like two days ago, there was

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01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:42.479
<v Speaker 1>a girl in Australia getting arrested a little you know,

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01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I think she's like eighteen. She had a shirt that

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01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 1>said from the River to the Sea. The arrest her

1433
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and she's face up to two years in prison for

1434
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 1>having a shirt that says from the river to the sea.

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01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's how these people come in and

1436
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.760
<v Speaker 1>take this power, taking away of free speech. There's another

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01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 1>guy just got a year in prison Australia for saying

1438
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like they're the enemy of Australia. It's like kind of

1439
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 1>proving his point when you know they actually they got

1440
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 1>caught faking anti Semitic. They were attacking the synagogues and

1441
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it turned out organized crime was paid to do it

1442
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>by a foreign agent. They never said to who that

1443
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 1>foreign agent was, but I'm sure we can assume Israel.

1444
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, at this point, it does feel like

1445
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.359
<v Speaker 2>that people are waking up to it, because even now

1446
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.800
<v Speaker 2>they were. There was a new I want to say

1447
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it was news articles saying that the potentially Iran was

1448
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.399
<v Speaker 2>going to use drones to attack California. Obviously that's gonna

1449
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:30.680
<v Speaker 2>be and then something recently just happened where they stole

1450
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:34.039
<v Speaker 2>some military drones were stole from like some kind of military.

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01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.479
<v Speaker 1>Bases that I get. That's that's what I heard. They

1452
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 1>stole four drones, and it's hard getting in these military

1453
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>bases and getting stuff out. It had been obviously an

1454
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 1>inside job with several people because you have to get

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01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.079
<v Speaker 1>through the checkpoints. Drones are pretty I think they'd be

1456
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:48.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty big war drones, right.

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01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to say that, you know, I know

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01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of military bases around where I'm from,

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01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and I've seen someone like the military drones and yeah,

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01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:57.159
<v Speaker 2>they're not small, they're not like the they're not like these.

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01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Ones looking a big truck.

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01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I would assume, I don't know, it does not seem

1463
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 2>likely that you could just go steal one without being

1464
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.640
<v Speaker 2>caught doing it easily. So yes, it inside jump. But

1465
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I think most people at this point now do see

1466
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.479
<v Speaker 2>this where like we're lots of people, especially like obviously

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01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:13.640
<v Speaker 2>we listen to us.

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01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It's crossed the point of going to put it back

1469
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 1>in though.

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01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 2>We're thinking this is gonna be there is a potential

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01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.880
<v Speaker 2>for a false flag because I mean, I hate to say,

1472
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 2>but that if they're getting desperate, this war is not

1473
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 2>being supported, not popular, well then they might have to

1474
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:29.920
<v Speaker 2>try to galvanize people you think about like a pearl harbor.

1475
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to because it's losing support. Americans are dying.

1476
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It looks like we potentially might be losing this war,

1477
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.279
<v Speaker 1>which is humiliating. Well, it's like a I guess the

1478
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.680
<v Speaker 1>thing is, it's it's like America is not going to

1479
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:46.359
<v Speaker 1>lose a war that has a clear objective that we

1480
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:49.560
<v Speaker 1>could discuss beforehand, that we could accomplish. But this is

1481
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:52.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of like this is like what happens with no objective.

1482
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, right, so the thing is like that

1483
01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the objective is clear as mud the way Trump lays

1484
01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 2>it out, because at first it was just like we're

1485
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.680
<v Speaker 2>supposed to get rid of their ability to make a nuke,

1486
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and then eventually it was, well, we got to get

1487
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 2>rid of all their ballistic missiles, and now it's like,

1488
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 2>we got to get rid of their navy.

1489
01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:09.800
<v Speaker 1>We got it. We got to get rid of their

1490
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:13.159
<v Speaker 1>acting like they were gonna come in and overthrow this guy,

1491
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 1>and that didn't happen. So now they're like, what do

1492
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.359
<v Speaker 1>we do? Yeah, he said they're running out of missiles,

1493
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but they keep shooting missiles, so I don't know. Oh yeah.

1494
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That was another thing Lindsey Graham said, was did he

1495
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:24.720
<v Speaker 2>say that he was excited that that we're running out

1496
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of bombs and we never even ran out of bombs during.

1497
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, or that's that's concerning. That means like what if

1498
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 1>China or Russia decide's like, hey, let's punk America right

1499
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 1>now we don't have any missiles.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems like this based on what they're saying now,

1501
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and it was supposedly Trump got in all these military

1502
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, the contractors, and he was saying that they

1503
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.640
<v Speaker 2>need to produce. He was like reading the Ride Act,

1504
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:45.479
<v Speaker 2>like they need to produce.

1505
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:45.760
<v Speaker 1>A lot more.

1506
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it does make you see that this is

1507
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:50.239
<v Speaker 2>not well thought out, Like you're probably right, is that

1508
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they thought they would take out Kammayani and then this

1509
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 2>this thing would fall real quick and they'd be in

1510
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.039
<v Speaker 2>and out. It's like, it does seem like Trump's mo

1511
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 2>to shoot a couple bombs off and then say declare

1512
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.359
<v Speaker 2>victory and then go home. But I think that he

1513
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:09.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously got bad advice. Yeah, very bad advice, Like sounds

1514
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 2>like you got advice from like Jared Christian.

1515
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 1>He said that he's like Jared told me. He really

1516
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.720
<v Speaker 1>said that that's theirs. The CIA told him like, hey,

1517
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna work out that way, but

1518
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.079
<v Speaker 1>he listened to Jared, who's part of Chavad Lubavic. Yeah,

1519
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Javaid Lubovich, the head rabbi who's dead now, but he's

1520
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:26.239
<v Speaker 1>this is their teachings. They don't think we have like

1521
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.159
<v Speaker 1>they think their souls are divine. They think our souls

1522
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.399
<v Speaker 1>are filthy from Satanic's fears, unholy animal souls. So why

1523
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 1>is every president going and meeting this guy who hates us?

1524
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, because again it's like, you know, I saw

1525
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 2>a clip from THEO Von and it was funny. He

1526
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.279
<v Speaker 2>was talking about the idea of like like when we

1527
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>give money to Israel, it's like it's kind of like

1528
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 2>it's already theirs. It's kind of like they are the boss,

1529
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.600
<v Speaker 2>like you know they It's just like it's like it's

1530
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 2>not even a question we're gonna give them money because

1531
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the money is already there.

1532
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's their money. We I think he's one of

1533
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 1>the said it feels like for a shell company for yeah,

1534
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely visual, and it kind of does.

1535
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, We're like we're like the giant money laundering place

1536
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:08.159
<v Speaker 2>where they just get their money, but people are seeing

1537
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:10.479
<v Speaker 2>it and it can't go on. Like I said, it's

1538
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:14.600
<v Speaker 2>hard when people like Lindsey Graham Trump cruise they work

1539
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.279
<v Speaker 2>way harder for Israel than America. But I just don't

1540
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:18.359
<v Speaker 2>and they openly say it.

1541
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.079
<v Speaker 1>They're just getting off. Yeah, it's not gonna be an

1542
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 1>easy fight, but we're gonna take our country back. I

1543
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.199
<v Speaker 1>got rapped in a couple of minutes of Super Slam

1544
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Day to Day. Anything you want to hit before we wrap,

1545
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and obviously want to tell people to find you and

1546
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:29.079
<v Speaker 1>stuff too.

1547
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I'll just say this is the only thing I

1548
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.319
<v Speaker 2>really wanted to finish, was was just to talk about again.

1549
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 2>To go double back to that idea of the sye

1550
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 2>up because this is where it gets obviously more real

1551
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to me, just as a Christian just beaus who cares

1552
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 2>what's true. Is the idea that these people that are

1553
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 2>supposedly Christians, like a past or like Mike Huckabee, and

1554
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:52.159
<v Speaker 2>then people like Ted Cruz who are trying to make

1555
01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:56.159
<v Speaker 2>this about theological issues, well, they're twisting scriptures. And again

1556
01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 2>this goes back to this idea of like the Schofield

1557
01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:03.399
<v Speaker 2>John Darby dispansm where they take what the New Testament

1558
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.159
<v Speaker 2>and what Christ taught was going to be the family

1559
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 2>of God and trying to put it backwards. And they're

1560
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:13.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to establish this secular state as God's chosen people

1561
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:17.279
<v Speaker 2>over again. If you're in Christ, God chose you, and

1562
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.079
<v Speaker 2>that's like, that's offensive to me. But then the way

1563
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:22.159
<v Speaker 2>that they're trying to use, like the Book of Revelation

1564
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:27.560
<v Speaker 2>as like a mockery where they have military commanders addressing

1565
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.439
<v Speaker 2>their troops talking about how Trump's annoyed by Jesus and

1566
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 2>he's supposed to use this war to bring in Armageddon

1567
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:37.399
<v Speaker 2>that leads to the return of Christ.

1568
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.800
<v Speaker 1>That's so crazy. They're teaching that I've heard the same

1569
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:41.760
<v Speaker 1>thing and reports, and I'm sure it's true.

1570
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, the interesting part is they said that as thirteen

1571
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:50.239
<v Speaker 2>or fourteen people complained, eleven were Christians complain. So I

1572
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 2>mean that praise God that they some people know what's up?

1573
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Is that, you know?

1574
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.760
<v Speaker 2>That's why I said, it's it's such the si op

1575
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that when bombs fall in the Middle East, now we

1576
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:05.039
<v Speaker 2>have people from a pulpit in America saying this is

1577
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 2>actually a good thing because this is going to lead

1578
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to Jesus returning. I was like, to me, that is

1579
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.920
<v Speaker 2>really offensive, Like that's offensive. And I think that what

1580
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.119
<v Speaker 2>the church has clearly taught is like, no, we don't

1581
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 2>have to support that, and we shouldn't support that. And

1582
01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I think that the more people when they read their

1583
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:25.000
<v Speaker 2>own Bibles and don't listen to like false teachers like

1584
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:25.920
<v Speaker 2>my cuck being.

1585
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.239
<v Speaker 1>You mean yourself, And we need to figure out something

1586
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:31.800
<v Speaker 1>where there's people can find an anti Zionist church. I

1587
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.079
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are super anti Zionists now

1588
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to go to a Zionist church. And

1589
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 1>he's to be like a church finder where you can

1590
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 1>find a local I was talking to Joel what's his

1591
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.399
<v Speaker 1>last name. He's a he's a Christians, super anti Zionist, oh,

1592
01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Joel Webbin. Yeah, and that's I was telling him, like,

1593
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you need to put something together. People can find churches

1594
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that are anti Zionists.

1595
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, we just like, I guess the thing is, it's

1596
01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:53.880
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily just being anti Zionim. It's just like just

1597
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:54.680
<v Speaker 2>just pro truth.

1598
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, this is this is just obviously that's

1599
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.399
<v Speaker 1>part of you can't you can't be teaching these are

1600
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 1>people are better than me who hate and kill Jesus.

1601
01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if they're teaching Muslims are better than you or

1602
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Hindus are better than you. Yeah, it's just backwards that

1603
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they worship Jews who killed. I have no hatred towards Jews,

1604
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.119
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to worship them. And basically it's

1605
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.880
<v Speaker 1>not just the it's not just the preachers, it's the

1606
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:20.319
<v Speaker 1>politicians want to worship them the whole country. They have

1607
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 1>all these special laws like they're trying to make in America.

1608
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:26.199
<v Speaker 1>They are putting people literally from the River to the

1609
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Sea of Girls in jail. But if you said Israel

1610
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:33.039
<v Speaker 1>should be free from or Israel could take over that land,

1611
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you're fine. If you say you just want gods that

1612
01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:36.359
<v Speaker 1>to be free Joel.

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01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course they are saying now that we're quote

1614
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:45.199
<v Speaker 2>unquote liberating the Iranian people as we bomb squamb there's schools,

1615
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 2>bumb hospitals, bob apartment buildings.

1616
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just evil.

1617
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:51.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean so yeah, like I think that I just

1618
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 2>want people just to be able to just see real

1619
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:55.199
<v Speaker 2>clearly and just be able to call out evil. Again,

1620
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 2>whether a Christian don't a quote unquote a Christian does

1621
01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 2>something evil or it doesn't really matter. You mean, it's like,

1622
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.800
<v Speaker 2>just just just call out a sin for what it

1623
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:09.920
<v Speaker 2>is and do not support people who protect pedophiles and

1624
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:11.800
<v Speaker 2>bomb bomb schools.

1625
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.560
<v Speaker 1>No, it's the crazy thing. As I call out Christians Muslims,

1626
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 1>they're evil both. Then when you call the Jews, they

1627
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:20.079
<v Speaker 1>call you an anti sem anti semi, try to ruin

1628
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 1>your life, get you canceled. It's like, oh this is interesting.

1629
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.439
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean well, I mean I think that the

1630
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.840
<v Speaker 2>only positive part about that now is like that word

1631
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 2>has lost. No, it's lost basically all the meaning. It's

1632
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:34.560
<v Speaker 2>like they've used it too many times and at this

1633
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:35.560
<v Speaker 2>point it's kind of like.

1634
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:38.439
<v Speaker 1>It's just probably things are probably go too far the

1635
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:40.680
<v Speaker 1>other way. It's a sad truth. But you know, you know,

1636
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.239
<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm very moderate now. A few years ago

1637
01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I was considered extremely extreme anti Semitic, but I'm one

1638
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of the more moderate voices. Now people are way past me.

1639
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want any harm to these people.

1640
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I was just pointing out, Yeah, that is that is concerning,

1641
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>because I think that's the main thing that that I

1642
01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 2>think as as a Christian. I like to give people

1643
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the benefit, especially if like I'm talking to them one

1644
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:05.199
<v Speaker 2>on one. Yeah, it's like I'm not I don't want

1645
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.279
<v Speaker 2>to have all these super preconceived notions about people, and

1646
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:13.399
<v Speaker 2>so now try to attribute the acts of few to everyone. Yeah,

1647
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, that in itself is an evil thing,

1648
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and so we don't need as Christians to do that.

1649
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1650
01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>It also doesn't mean that we need to be completely

1651
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:22.800
<v Speaker 2>naive to things where you know, like the Bible tells

1652
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 2>us to be as wives as serpents and innocent as doves.

1653
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:29.079
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't mean to naturally just be naive to

1654
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like let people take advantage of it.

1655
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's showsen people, But I'm accountable, But we don't

1656
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:36.159
<v Speaker 1>want to say they're all bad. But you do start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this particular group has been manipulating our politicians features.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's the dangerous part about the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of that these people are not dumb, so they might

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<v Speaker 2>use the more extreme factions to again perpetuate actual, real evil,

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<v Speaker 2>which they can justify again by taking away rights, sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like people like you and me, I can't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this because you was just your words become violence.

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<v Speaker 1>And managed talking to synagogues. I'll probably try to use

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<v Speaker 1>that ticket rights away. Yeah, sure, earned out the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>family was killed a couple of days before in Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that no way justifies it, but it adds a

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<v Speaker 1>little perspective. You know, short, I went crazy doesn't justify

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<v Speaker 1>a terrorist tag, but they just killed his family a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, well there's reasons, Like some people have

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<v Speaker 2>reasons for being upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he wasn't. He wasn't upset for no reason. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>justify it, but he was he had a good reason

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<v Speaker 1>to be angry. Yeah. Yeah, we had a wrap work

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<v Speaker 1>and people find you give your.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure, so if you want to hear more,

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we talked about a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. We talk about more over on my

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. JT follows JC. If you guys like to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to him on audio, you can check me out

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<v Speaker 2>on Speaker, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and if you like short,

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<v Speaker 2>quick videos, you can check out my socials Instagram, TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>and Facebook. Yeah, and an X and follow me on

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<v Speaker 2>X because I'm trying to build that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, I don't think of allow anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you gotta go everywhere. So much work the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast the easy part. They're like, oh, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>get clipped for here and that that place. Talking is

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<v Speaker 1>the fun part.

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<v Speaker 2>All the other stuff is the pain and the ass

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping it all run.

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<v Speaker 1>It's better than working a real job. Yes, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>is we got to run? Hey, guys, I'm demonetized everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to support me and the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>go to fight Back podcast dot com and you can

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<v Speaker 1>buy some cool merch like the shirt I'm wearing now.