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Speaker 2: Matthew, Hey, Tim, can you hear us?

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Speaker 3: I can hear y'all. Yeah, I think we've lost Matthew

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Speaker 4: Wonderful, wonderful. Sorry, sorry about that. We have a great

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Tim Thomas. You can follow him on Twitter. I'm still

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 4: We really appreciate you coming on the All Sports Discussion

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Speaker 3: Night with us.

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Speaker 4: This is a it's always a treat when you come

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and come on the show, and it's it's it's just awesome,

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with Virginia Tech. We'd mostly be talking about whenever Virginia

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ACC football week that was right? Who was the most

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disappointing ACC football team in Week five? And give us

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who can fall in either category here. Let's start. Let's

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of teams out of think on this positive category. But

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how about Duke that you know, I thought I thought

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really highly of Duke entering the season. They had that

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rough game against Illinois where the margin was wider than

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the game was. They lose at Tulane. You're wondering a

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little bit what's going on here? And they've they figured

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Steve Anjelly, which I think they're a negative. I mean

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they get whooped by thirty five at home. I don't

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care that you just lost your quarterback, Like, come on,

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do something, do something more than that. But I think

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worth with what he's given them. That's a good team.

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only lose one of those games. I think they'll probably

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win at CAW. I mean, Duke could be a is

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the off sides penalty aside disappointing to lose that game,

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to go to the headline. Well, there'll be a couple

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of other teams we'll get on, but we have to

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go to the head line of the University of Virginia Cavaliers. Man,

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Perkins and maybe maybe even longer. That's a good football team.

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starter at TCU before he got hurt the year Max

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a talented player, and I think that's showing. The running

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state that may have been maybe isn't a top ten team,

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but is a top twenty five team for sure. What

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what a what a win that is for UVA. What

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a scene that was on the field with you know,

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the sea, if U manny would have been nice, if

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more seconds, you know, for players to get out of

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oh right now, a huge game at Louisville. We will

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get into that shortly huge game in Louisville if they

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somehow win that game, I tell you they guess they

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gotta go cross country to Cow. Yes, they got to

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go to Duke still, but UVA is very live in

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the ACC Championship.

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Speaker 2: Brees.

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Charlotte today, but uv A is very live in this thing.

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beginning of the season. I thought they could get the

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six to seven wins. Give them the schedule. But Chandler

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host of running backs. They got some guys on defense too.

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receivers Harris and Ross, I mean and earning all those

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good football team. Yuv is gonna win seven or eight games.

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a pit team that is better I think people realize.

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the bet on NC State. I mean, this was a

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dead in the water Virginia Tech. Just a couple of

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weeks ago. They make the coaching change you had to

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make because that team had quit. You see several players

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leave or decide the red shirt, and now they rallied.

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Terry On Stewart being healthy is huge for that team.

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running back in terms of portal guys, and he's showing

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why that. Man. I mean, the eighty five yard run

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was the most impressive, but he had several runs of

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ten plus yesterday one when they got the running game,

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actually decided to use the running game. Because they didn't

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use it early on, they pretty much always passed. Once

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they actually started using it, things changed for Tech in

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that game. Stuart's a force. He's healthy, he is a

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bowling ball. He's probably a little more athletic version of

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a dude. And the linebacker play Caleb Spencer and the

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true freshman Noah Chambers. I don't think I've ever seen

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a true freshman make his debut in a conference game

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and have three tackles on his first three career defensive

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plays in college football. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

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They might have the Low Garrazzo Award winner and John

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showed up, and yeah, I think Tech's gotta be one

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of the most impressive NC State falls. On the other

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was like, Okay, this is something's going on good here.

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lost last week. Lose to this the Dave Dorn conversation

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and yet let's see how this playoffs. Because Dorn has

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had a very good tenure at NC State. But I

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think anyone said people saying that it might be getting

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stale after what happened, the disappointment last year and now

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what we've seen this year, I think that's a fair argument.

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I think that's a fair case. There is a case

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I wonder a little bit. I think some NC State

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people have speculated this, like they've invested a lot into

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Will Wade. Are they in a position to make a

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move in a football coach right now? I'm not so sure,

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but the state we're in, they might need to. So

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I think it's interesting situation with NC State. I will

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say CJ. Bailey is a very good quarterback. So there's

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a lot of positives in the league. This week. Florida

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State's got to be a disappointment. You know, Top ten

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lose on the road at Uva. But Uva, even with

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Uva being decent, kind of stalls your momentum and now

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puts you going to Miami where you're kind of in

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a must win if you want to get to Charlotte. Now,

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if you don't win that game, Florida State could still

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get to the College Football Playoff. I think if they

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don't beat Miami next week, they pretty much they have

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to win out, but they could still stack up good

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wins at Clemson at Florida that would be that would

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help them build out their resume around what they did

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against Alabama Week one. But Florida's I think, is a

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little teetering or is definitely teetering in the ACC race

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because I don't think you're gonna get there the Charlotte

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with two losses, or at least you do not want

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to be in that spot this early on Syracuse obviously

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used by thirty five at home. I don't care your

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quarterback just went down. I mean, that's just embarrassing. Stanford's

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a mess. I can't say I'm disappointed by Stanford because

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Santa Steate State is probably a better football team than them,

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so beating them is something so good for them, even

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though they did beat Boston College early this year. Somehow

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col has got to be a positive. I didn't mention

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them earlier, but Justin Wilcox may be coaching his way

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off the hot seat as well. He was the hottest

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Sea coming the season, and he's coaches way off the

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hot seat. Credit to him. They got that freshman quarterback,

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he got a couple home games coming up. I mean,

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Cow's going to be comfortably favored against Bill Belichick in

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North Carolina. They should get to a there's a good

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chance they got North Carolina and Stanford still to play.

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There's a good chance to get at least six and

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get to a bowl game. My view, that should be

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enough to say Wilcox's job for another year. They might

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with Duke have in across country UVASMU, maybe they can

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get one of those as well. Maybe they come across

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the country and beat Virginia Tech. Good work for Justin Wilcox.

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So a very interesting week across the league.

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Speaker 4: Well said teammate. Heck of a recap, Jeff, you're up bread.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim, let's look ahead to next week with

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ACC football game games are you looking forward to in

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Week six?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we have to start with Miami at

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Florida State. I mean this if it wasn't for UVA

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up saying that this might have been the biggest Florida

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State Miami game in a long long time. It's still

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one of the biggest. I don't know why College Game

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Day is not in Tallahassee. Alabama Vanderbilt is exciting, but

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I don't know why they are not in Tallahassee. Miami

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is a legitimate national title contender right now. Carson Beck

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looks great, the defense as much improved for them. Mark

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Fletcher was a very productive running back for a while

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and now is gain to be the guy. CJ. Daniels

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kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit LSU,

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but he was really good at Liberty previously, and I

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think it's showing a little bit. This is a really

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good Miami team. This is a really, really good one.

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And I think for all to talk about Crystal Ball

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and not getting over the hump after ND last year,

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like the thing is my Oregon played for three straight

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conference titles. I can't remember what the record was in

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them when Chrystal Ball was there prior to leaving for Miami.

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Like Christa, Ball knows how to get talent and he

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knows how to build up a winner, and right now

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we're seeing that. I think this year we are seeing

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that more and more. Like this defense, he made a

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very good higher defensive coordinator this offseason. Obviously, Shannon Dawson

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is a guy who's going to be linked with a

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whole lot of openings. But for Florida State, this is

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a big moment. Now you lose at Uva. If you

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want to get the Charlotte, you have to win this game.

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And this is a good this team is capable of

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doing that. This is a good football team, and you're

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playing at home. This is a big moment for Florida

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State and if you want to make the playoff. I mean,

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here's the thing. If they win this game, you have

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wins over Miami and Alabama. You could probably lose one

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miss the ACC Championship and at ten and two, partly

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your helped a little bit. I have the name Florida State,

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but with Uva being respectable, lu say had a Clemson

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team that could easily rally and finish at eight and

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four to nine and three top twenty five teen. Like

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even with the mess they've been so far, I mean,

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Florida State could still get to the playoff. I think

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This is a crucial moment for them too, for the

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ACC and their playoff hopest. But I am very this

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is obviously the game of the week in the league.

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It's a very exciting game. And yeah, I mean, if

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you look at Florida State, you win this game tonight,

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you got Pitt or this game. Next weekend you have

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Pitt Stanford on the road, which doesn't really matter. Wake

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Forest at Clemson, Virginia Tech at NC State. That's very doable.

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That's very doable to win that, and then at Florida

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at the end of the year. They could win all them,

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especially if Clemson continues to just be a dumpster fire

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and just a mess. I mean, if Clemson can figure

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it out, they have the talent of a top five

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team in America. There's a reason why I picked them

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preseason being a national title to win the national championship.

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And I am puzzled and befuddled by the mess of

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Clemson this year. But if Clemson continues to be a mess,

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they'll be favored in all of them. They may be

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favored all of them anyway, But win this game against Miami,

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you can get the Charlotte and you can go to

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Charlotte knowing you're going to be in a college football

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playoff and you're playing with house money that go win

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a conference championship and maybe get a bye. That's the

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type of spot Florida State still is in. While Miami,

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on the other hand, once again also everything is there.

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I mean, this is a moment to send a message.

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They beat Florida convincingly, they beat Notre Dame week one.

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You win this game, I mean this could twelve is

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in play, thirteen and oh is in play for Miami.

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You win on the road. You got Louisville. That's gonna

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be a tough test, but you do get a bye

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before you play Louisville on a Friday night at home.

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Then you have Stanford at SMU, Syracuse, NC State at

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Virginia Tech at Pitt. I mean, as you could be tricky.

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We've seen it before with Miami going to Pitt and

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Pitt being a thorn in their side for some reason

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when they go up there in late November. But that

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is such a manageable schedule. These next couple games are

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crucial mostly for position at this point because Notre Dame's South,

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USF and Florida are all solid wins their their playoff

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spot looks very strong. They take care of bes at

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Florida State, Miami will see you guys in the playoffs,

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at worst hosting a first round game, and you're in

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Miami's rightly in the driver's seat in the ACC. I

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think Miami wins that game, but I could see that

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game going either way. And then the other game I

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think you have to talk about out is Uva at Louisville.

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I don't think. I don't think I had that pencil

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preseason as a significant ACC game. But here we are

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Louisville obviously a huge two game stretch here home against Uva,

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which has just gained so much more intrigue. And then

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at Miami they can go one to one, which I

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think they will go one to one. And then you

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have Boston College averaging Contech, cal Cal Clemson at home

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at SMU and SEBU team I think is pretty good

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still but maybe isn't what they were last year. And

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then of course Kentucky they could win out that's manageable,

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and even they slip up once a ten and two

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team with some of those wins, it gets interesting. With

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the playoff, I think they'd be left out in that scenario.

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But eleven and ones in play for Louisville, and I

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think this is a really good football team. I think

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Miller Moss is the most talented quarterback that that Jeff

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Bram has had. I think we're starting the see or

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at least maybe the highest ceiling. Hasn't been the best

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start necessarily, but Isaac Brown, we know, is a home

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run thread at running back. They got the receivers with

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Bell and Lacy. They got some players on defense too.

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You know Clev Louvin's three and a half sacks. He

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was really good at Coastal Carolina. There's a reason why

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a whole lot of people wanted him and looked. He's

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looking the part early on. So but Uva, on the

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other hand, we talked about earlier. With their schedule, it

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sets up you go win this game at Louisville. I

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mean they'll be favored the rest of the way, most

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likely at Duke's the toughest game left at Cal maybe

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just because you got to go all the way across

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the country and that freshman quarterback is good, but you'll

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have a ton of tape at that point on a

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true freshman quarterback. I mean they win this game at Louisville.

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Could the University of Virginia be eleven and one or

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ten and two even I don't think they will be.

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I think they'll probably be like eight h four because

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I think they're good, but not that good. But this

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is a big moment.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: If you go from winning at Florida State, winning over

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Florida State to winning at Louisville the next week, I

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think we have I think we need to have a

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serious conversation about UVA, even more serious about UVAS as

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not only an ACC contender, but maybe the shocker of

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the year to make the college football Playoff, which, by

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the way, I think should send some chills down the

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spine of those down in Blacksburg that your rival is

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positioning itself in football right now much better this season,

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in a moment where we're trending towards a big potential

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shift and schism that you want to be on the

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right side of. So, I mean, this is a big game,

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and it's crazy to say that about UVA. I don't

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think it's going to happen. And I think Louisville wins

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this game, and I think UVA is like an eight

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and four team but it's there for them. It's there

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for both of these teams. A run at the ace

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the championship is very much there. And I do want

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to mention Duke at Cow because guess what these two

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teams are both undefeeing the ACC so far Cal one

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to oh Duke two and zero. Winner of this game.

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I mean, Duke's got like I said, Georgia Tech clumbs

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in Virginia, but it's their live in the AEC if

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they win this game this Cow. On the other side,

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the toughest team they play is probably Louisville or at

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Louisville or Virginia coming across the country or SMU coming

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to their place too. Duke's got to come to their place.

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Their road games are Louisville, Virginia Tech, and Stanford. Like

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I said, this game, they're hosting Duke. I mean Cal

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wins this game. They're two to zero in the league play,

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they get a bye, then they have North Carolina Virginia Tech.

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That's gonna be you know, the cross country parts gonna

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be tricky for them. But Cal could bee him the

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hunt in the ACC well into November as well, So

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it's I don't think. I think They're gonna be slip

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ups for both teams, especially Cow. But this Duke Col

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game is is going to be a very interesting late

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night game. And also for Duke, you know, you just

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played at Syracuse. Now you got to go back to

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Durham then go cross the country. A good thing they

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won thirty three, maybe, but that's a lot of travel

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and that is a very unfavorable schedule for Duke, and

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Cal's decent. That might be the upset watch there. Cal

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is the underdog at home. I don't know if they

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should be the underdog. So that's gonna be a very

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interesting game.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tim, awesome look at the week six games

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that you're looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: But let's take.

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Speaker 1: Another look here a week six here the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Which ACC team do you think could be on upset

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alert if they're looking ahead to a game on their

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schedule or otherwise just sleep walking on the on the field.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that Cal Duke game is one of them.

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Florida State at home, obviously a home underdog against Miami.

477
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,839
I don't think Miami's gonna be looking ahead or sleepwalking,

478
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,720
but Florida stay at home. That's that's you know, there's

479
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,960
definitely upset potential there. Uva is an underdog, but could

480
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,359
there be that kind of hangover effect from a big

481
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,599
win and it just not be nearly as competitive as

482
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,519
the Vegas would think possible. Duke having across go all

483
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:26,160
the way across the country after a long trip to Syracuse,

484
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,759
that against a col team that has some momentum after

485
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,200
winning against Boston College and that game being so late

486
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,839
at ten thirty, that's a dicey one too. And then

487
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,480
I also I do think Pitt. I think Boston College

488
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:45,440
is very game right now. They're gonna start, They're gonna

489
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,799
get someone. They could get Pitt. If Pitt's not careful here.

490
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,359
Lanigan's very intriguing. They showed a pulse with the running

491
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,079
game this past week. Boston College could be dangerous here

492
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,640
against Pitt, especially Pitt Tough, you know, blowing a late

493
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:06,240
lead against Louisville. I will say I think Clemson is

494
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,799
gonna just beat the crap out of North Carolina. That

495
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,680
UNC team Cleary is not very good. And the Bill

496
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,039
Belichick Dablos Sweeney game is you know, a ESPN is

497
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,240
probably a great ragne despite the fact that it doesn't

498
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,880
really mean much at this point to any relevance of

499
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,880
this college football season. But you know, television means that

500
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,519
games on ESPN instead of ACC Network, where it probably

501
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:37,160
should be. But regardless, Clemson's gonna stop him. I don't

502
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,640
imagine that they won't. I don't care the games in

503
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Chapel Hill, Like look ahead the basketball season. North Carolina. Uh,

504
00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,440
Bill Belichick's got a lot of work to do, and

505
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,119
who knows if it's even you know, it's tiring. A

506
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,519
guy who's won as many Super Bowls as he has

507
00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:01,400
sounds great, great in press headlines, but you know, hiring

508
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,519
a seventy three year old who is dating a twenty

509
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,720
four year old and has got those those kind of

510
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,839
questions about his you know, morality to be frank to

511
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,960
an extent and on both directions and distractions in addition

512
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,720
to being you know, potentially well passed his coaching prime

513
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:24,400
as well learning a new game the coach. Yeah, that

514
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,599
just seems like a mess. I don't know what we're

515
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,720
doing here, and it's right now showing to be a mess.

516
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:33,720
We'll see, maybe they're brilliant, but right now they got

517
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,799
some questions. So no, North Carolina won't be on upset Watch,

518
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,480
but Pittsburgh Duke Miami all feel like teams I think

519
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,079
are the most most prone here.

520
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: All right, tim, let's go national here, we'll step out

521
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,720
of the ACC for a bid. Which national FBS game

522
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,160
are you looking forward to the most in Week six?

523
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
And we're wide open with this question. This can be

524
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,400
Power four, G five. You can even have an FCS

525
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,440
matchup and then give us the winner of that game

526
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,200
or two that you're looking at outside of the ACC.

527
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think Alabama Vanderbilt has been testing just because

528
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,160
if Vanderbilt can, if Vanderbilt can bowl us off again

529
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,720
and go in the tuscle looser this time to do

530
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,599
it one, all the good will for Kaitlin de Bor

531
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,799
goes right back out the window, and a repeat of

532
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,839
last year. Though I think Kylen de Bor is a

533
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,519
heck of a ball coach. But secondly, all of a sudden,

534
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:35,319
Vanderbilt six to oher with LSU Mazoo coming coming home,

535
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Auburn and Kentucky at home, two Texas and tenn Site

536
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,319
the only games of the row like they might have

537
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,079
a chance, even at like ten and two, which by

538
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,799
the way, gets him in the playoff, they might. And

539
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:47,920
even if they go nine in three, you have a

540
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,519
win in Alabama. Among those, I think we might be

541
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:55,279
talking about playoff team Vanderbilt even we might have a

542
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,599
chance to be talking about that. And for Alabama, obviously,

543
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,039
this is you gotta build on this or you got

544
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,319
to build on it. You gotta build what you did

545
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:05,039
against Georgia this time instead of stumbling. So I think

546
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,960
that is a obviously a big game I've been picking out.

547
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200
I'd pick Alabama. I think I think Vanderbilt is a

548
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
great story. They're a good team. They've improved from last year,

549
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,480
but they're not that level. I think I think that's

550
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,920
going to catch up there. And I tell you this,

551
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:21,839
I look in some of the other games, Texas Tech

552
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,880
at Houston, Battle of vun beatings, but I don't think

553
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,960
Houston is that could But I tell you this, Texas

554
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Tech's gonna be fascinating to watch them right now. The

555
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,079
money they spent is looking well spent in their GM.

556
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:34,559
I can't remember their GM's name, but he is proving

557
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:36,880
to be They paid him, Notre Dame, wanted him, and

558
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,759
they kept him. That man is one of the one

559
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,440
of the best front office people in college football today,

560
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,960
one of the best personnel people in college football. They

561
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
have an edge because of it, in addition to Cody

562
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Campbell pumping him bid jillion dollars into that program too,

563
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,640
So I think that's a very interesting spot. I think

564
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,759
also you look at Texas A and M hosting Mississippi.

565
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:00,960
Mississippi State team is very live. You know, A and M.

566
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200
They're in the playoff race. I picked them preseason. The

567
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,480
schedule sets up favorably for them to get the ten

568
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:10,559
and two. You get some interesting lower top twenty five

569
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:13,440
or outside they jump in. I think A and M

570
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:15,279
is very A and M I think will take care

571
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,720
of business in that game, and it'll be interesting to see.

572
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,920
I think they are very live for the playoff too,

573
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,319
so there's some interest game. Not a crazy week. I

574
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,720
will say, you get a little further down the kind

575
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,160
of the chasm here, and it's there aren't as many

576
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,359
like G five games necessarily at least this week though,

577
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,440
I will say Delaware got it. You gotta shout out

578
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
the Blue Hens. They're three to one in their first

579
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,440
season as an FBS team, hosting Western Kentucky this week.

580
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,240
I mean they're one to zero in conference right now.

581
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,599
Liberty does not look very good. That league is wide

582
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,559
open out. I mean Western Kentucky. Kentucky's probably the favorite,

583
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,279
pretty clear. Louisante's been a surprise too, but could Delaware

584
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,119
being here the top of the league for most of

585
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:06,319
the year. The big moment for Delaware at home against

586
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,759
Western Kentucky if they could win that one. So an

587
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,640
underrated Friday night game. That'll be a fun one over

588
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,640
in Newark, Delaware.

589
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Right, very very good tim Because we have our last

590
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,720
two segments here in the podcast. We've got two open

591
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:32,519
mic segments, and this next one is just for you.

592
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:36,680
So whatever you have on your mind, you know, it

593
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,079
can be Virginia Tech, it could be somewhere else in

594
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:46,640
the ACC around the country. Go forward here on our

595
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,240
guest open mic segment.

596
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the big storylines. I think

597
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,319
one of the interesting things to watch this week is

598
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:58,519
in Blacksburg. You know, for those out not in the

599
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:02,440
Virginia Tech world as deeply major Board of Visitors meeting

600
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,359
was called after funding questions were raised about a month ago.

601
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,279
There is a proposal that's been circulating around that will

602
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,960
be presented. It will infuse fifty million dollars this year

603
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,960
into Virginia Tech and then obviously so their budget will

604
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,960
be athletic budget will be next year over two hundred

605
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,319
million dollars will be one hundred and ninety million, about

606
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,759
one hundred and ninety two million or so, up from

607
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,920
about fifty million from one forty two what it was

608
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,599
supposed to be this year. I think I've talked to

609
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,680
some people around if Virginia Tech realizes they are you know,

610
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,319
if there is this schism in twenty thirty of the

611
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,839
top thirty ish schools, they may not be in it.

612
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,759
And there is a potential risk that goes beyond just

613
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,960
you know, missing the schism in football, but the economic

614
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,759
impact on the region, the academic impact it could even

615
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,200
have to an extent on you know, Virginia Tech's ambitions

616
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,079
as an academic institution, a growing student body. You don't

617
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:56,680
have to be comfortable with that or not, but that's

618
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,759
just the reality. You know. There's some people that are

619
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,519
rise that Virginia Tech, you know, that would some of

620
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,960
the money proposed is not together yet. It shouldn't be

621
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,079
a shock. This proposal is a month old and they're

622
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,160
proposing one hundred and twenty million of the two hundred

623
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,880
twenty nine million dollars to come from donors. It takes

624
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,960
a minute to fundraise that, and they got some work

625
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,559
to do to deliver that. I think this this could

626
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:26,359
be a massive statement to the coaching market that Virginia

627
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:30,200
Tech is very serious and very serious about infusing cash.

628
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440
And if they can make it clear to coaches that

629
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,839
this money will be delivered, they will and to agents,

630
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,359
they will improve their job. The type of candidate that

631
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,160
they will be able to pull into this program will

632
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,440
be raised. If they can make clear they can deliver

633
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,279
on becoming a budget that matches Florida State, in Clemson

634
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:51,640
in the ACC and his top twenty top twenty or

635
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,680
so overall among all programs. This is a big moment

636
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,359
for Virginia Tech. And I think, you know, if you

637
00:33:58,359 --> 00:33:59,759
don't have all that money, I think what they need

638
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:01,200
to make players, Hey, if we don't have all that

639
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640
donor money just yet, we're gonna take some debt because

640
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,559
the Seth Lake department that's ran in the green for

641
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,799
a while, and I think you have to take some

642
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,320
risks sometime. They have to show that whether donor mine

643
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,320
iSER or not, they are willing to make it creative

644
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,199
to make sure the money is there and let donors

645
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,079
figure it out as it comes. They got to show

646
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,480
the money, and this is a big moment, but this

647
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,039
is a step. The next step will be after Green.

648
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,320
This is showing to agents, hey, proof that they can

649
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,239
actually deliver the money, whether you you know, I don't

650
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,880
want to be the one that's you know, poop poo

651
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,519
on the parade here, but let's this is a step.

652
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,079
This is not the end game. You know, if you

653
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,480
want to somehow convince John Summroll that, hey, he shouldn't

654
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,559
just wait for an SEC job to offer him, you

655
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,400
got to have that money ready to go, or if

656
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,719
you want Matt Campbell somehow to leave Iowa State. I

657
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,880
don't think even with the money there, those guys would

658
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,039
necessarily jump in Virginia Tech. But it maybe opens that

659
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,400
door a little bit, and obviously it you know, helps

660
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,800
with the There's like the Alex Golishes who are gonna

661
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,960
be talked about a ton, the Dan Mullins and so

662
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:07,440
many more who will end up being linked with this job.

663
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:12,599
So big week for Virginia Tech. And you know, there's

664
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:16,239
some good vibes in Blacksburg after Saturday night for a

665
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,679
program that you know, honestly, it's a lost season all

666
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,039
there's lots of noise, but all the noise is not

667
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,880
is around who the next coaches, who the funding is

668
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,880
gonna be, who's gonna be the GM. None of it's

669
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,519
around the locker room. And I think this is gonna

670
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:31,280
be a strange It's gonna be a strange scene in

671
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,199
Blacksburg because I think they're gonna be Tech fans that

672
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,559
gonna be disappointed in the big picture they have to

673
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,239
watch a three and nine football team. But I think

674
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,119
we'll enjoy this season in a weird way too, So

675
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:43,840
it's gonna get a little wacky. But this is a

676
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
big week for the future of Virginia Tech and that's

677
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,840
something to definitely monitor. And guys, I don't think we've

678
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,639
planned this podcast to be around this vote for me

679
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,199
to jump on here, but talk about a nice coincidence.

680
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely open microphone number two.

681
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: What do you got for a sim.

682
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think I want to say something a little

683
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,920
bit as well as we look at the race, the

684
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,960
college football playoff race, but let's talk about the ap

685
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,360
pole and some of the complaints. I'm fed up with

686
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,280
some of these complaints. I'm fed up with some of this, Like, yes,

687
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,880
some there's some voters who don't do the work, but

688
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
so many of them do, and so many of these

689
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,719
people are traveling the country covering these games with vehicles

690
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:36,599
with whatever their newspaper or organization will provide. Most of

691
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:39,239
these people aren't national reporters. They're beat reporters. They're not

692
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,480
reporters flying on private jets or having big salaries. You know,

693
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,400
I work along the side playing them. I weren't running

694
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,760
bump shoulders with them. I think some of these people

695
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,960
who can have been some of the loudest complaints. There

696
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,119
are people who I think do great job coming to sport,

697
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,920
like the Josh Pats and others, but I'm fed up

698
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,440
with the incessant complaints about it. Is it imperfect, Yes,

699
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,000
but guess what, it's still pretty dark good if you

700
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,519
look historically a lot like last year. I think eight

701
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,119
of the top twelve teams in the preseason Top twenty

702
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,719
five actually made the playoff in the preseason ap Top

703
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,119
twenty five. And oh, don't even look at the Coach's Bowl.

704
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:16,599
That's even a bigger mess. If you want to complain

705
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,639
about something of the Coaches Bowl. But the Coaches Bowl

706
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,280
is completely irrelevant at this point. I mean it's you know,

707
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,480
it's thrown together. It's a mess. It probably shouldn't exist

708
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,920
at this point. I don't think it's really accurate. So

709
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,159
I'm fed up with this. These the constant complaining, the moaning,

710
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,039
the whining. It just needs to stop. Sure, you complain

711
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,519
a little bit. It's fun, but just needs to stop.

712
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,880
Like these people and anyone who says, oh, do these

713
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,800
people actually care about college football? This is not an

714
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400
if you don't care about college sports and college football,

715
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,480
you know, the salary is not an appealing part of

716
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920
that industry, y'all. I work as an engineer full time.

717
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960
It's the salaries of helps appeal to it too. I

718
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,400
would love to do it full time, but the salary

719
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,639
may never get to that point compared to what I

720
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:07,840
can make otherwise, you know, or employ someone to run

721
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,519
the site eventually and be the over CEO one day.

722
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:16,159
Maybe the point is the disrespect needs to stop a

723
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:18,840
little bit. On some of this front. I will say this,

724
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,719
I think they got it right with a lot of

725
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,519
it too. I think Indiana being in the top ten

726
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,320
makes sense. I think Texas Tech it's fun to see

727
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,239
some of these teams that are rising up, Georgia Tech.

728
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,320
I don't know why Louisville is and then there yet,

729
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,840
though I think Louisville is a very good team. They

730
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,199
beat Uva. They should absolutely be in that top twenty five,

731
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,480
and we need to talk about Louisville as a playoff team. Still,

732
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,519
that team should have been the top twenty five at

733
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,519
the start of the season, and then we've just forgotten

734
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:47,159
about them. That's a good football team. Jeff Brown, by

735
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,000
the way, has done a great job. I was I

736
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,280
thought Jeff brom was overrated when he was at Purdue.

737
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,119
I'm wrong, he's underrated. He's done a great job of

738
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:59,239
that program. But it's time to stop complaining with the

739
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,320
AP poll. That's just come on. It's actually pretty good

740
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,400
when we think about it. The reality is it's actually

741
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,159
pretty good. You know, Illinois staying in the top twenty five,

742
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,000
by the way, after just a really bad weekend in Indiana.

743
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,760
They weren't a top ten team, but the correction was made,

744
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,960
and you know, that's a great example of them getting

745
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,159
it right. You know. But hey, also, this is college football.

746
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,079
It's pretty hard to predict sometimes. That's why we love

747
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:29,920
college sports. They're not the pros. They're more inconsistent. The

748
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,480
floors and the ceilings are wider, it's gonna be more chaotic.

749
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,079
It's hard to get these rankings right, and especially as

750
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,360
we get deeper in the season, it's complicated, it's tricky.

751
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,639
Let's give a little grace here, and yeah, let's give

752
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:46,519
a little grace. Let's stop some of the whining in

753
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:49,800
the morning about these reporters who go across the country

754
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,960
and especially now the flights. Are the travels not getting better?

755
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,039
And yes they get in the free all that. You know, great,

756
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,400
you know, but it's still a job as well. But

757
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
it's not an easy job. And I give my colleagues a

758
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,880
lot of credit for that. For those who do a

759
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,599
full time I love it. I enjoy it, but I

760
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,679
am more flexibiler than others. Paths nailed it.

761
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: Tim nailed it.

762
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: Jeff, you're up.

763
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. Tim, and I wanted to kind

764
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:28,960
of touch on a related point to that. I think

765
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,800
the college football playoff selection, I think this year is

766
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,480
going to make last year's. You know, there was controversy

767
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,400
last year, but I think this year it's going to

768
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:45,360
make last year look like a perfectly clean selection. So

769
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,119
because you know, with with the with the nil and

770
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:55,039
the portal. You know, the margin the differences between teams

771
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,400
is so razor thin than what we had like ten,

772
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,320
you know, eight ten years ago. You know, I look

773
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,480
at the top twenty five and you think about comparing

774
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,639
these teams to the Clemson and Alabama teams of the

775
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,440
of the mid twenty tens and even onto you know LSU.

776
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,119
You know, I take those those teams I think would

777
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,239
have absolutely destroyed any of the teams in the top

778
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,320
five this year. But all of that is saying is

779
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,920
I think you've brought in you know, during that decade,

780
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,119
you might have had three, maybe up to five teams

781
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,440
in a year that really had a legit chance to

782
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,599
win the national championship. I mean, and I look at

783
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:44,960
the top fifteen this year and I see, you know,

784
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,119
maybe eleven or twelve teams in the top fifteen now

785
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:50,880
that I think could win it. And I think anybody

786
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
in the top twenty five currently is capable of winning

787
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,920
a game in the in the CFP. I think when

788
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,239
we have that selection, I think if you're a three

789
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,159
loss team, I don't care what conference you're from. If

790
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,199
you're a three loss team, you're done. I don't think

791
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,159
you'll have any chance whatsoever to make the playoffs as

792
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,639
a three loss team. Last year, I think you had

793
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,239
a couple teams that were on that border. I don't

794
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,079
even think you're going to be in the picture if

795
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,519
you lose three times because just because of some of

796
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:27,840
the things you alluded to, Tim, I think there's going

797
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,960
to be a ton of teams sitting at ten and

798
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:36,599
two and eleven and one that the CFP committee is

799
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:40,480
going to have to, you know, go through those resumes

800
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,639
and try to separate those teams out. And I think

801
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,679
teams teams that have scheduled up, that have won games

802
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,960
out of conference, that have you know, road wins that

803
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,599
may be scheduled you know, P four games neutral side

804
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:01,360
or on the road, or or or scheduled tough, I

805
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,480
think are going to be given a lot of credit.

806
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Ohio State.

807
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,119
Speaker 1: I think that win over Texas is going to resonate

808
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,199
all year long, and I think they're gonna be given

809
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,559
a lot of credit for that. I think Miami, you know,

810
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,920
you always talk about, you know, can a ACC team

811
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,639
move up? I mean they're ranked number three in the

812
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:24,320
country and they scheduled Notre Dame Florida and still put

813
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,719
South Florida on the schedule. That is very good and

814
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,320
that you know what you talked about before. I think

815
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,079
the winner of the Miami Florida State game is going.

816
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: To the playoff, no doubt about it. The winner of

817
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,639
that game.

818
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,559
Speaker 1: And even with Florida State having a loss, because I

819
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:43,199
think what you said before, you know, you have a

820
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,639
win over Alabama plus Miami, I think you can afford

821
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,559
a loss another loss somewhere.

822
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,199
Speaker 2: Along the along the way.

823
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Neither that assuments you beat Florida, which you know, I

824
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,280
think Florida is going to have a really rough season,

825
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,360
but that's still gonna count as an out of conference win.

826
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: And I think that's.

827
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: On the road is as as well. So I'm I'm

828
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,119
looking for as wide open of playoff that that we've

829
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,000
that we've ever seen. And I thought last year was great.

830
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,159
I think even more teams are in the picture. I mean,

831
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,119
just for the last month you said, you've seen people

832
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,679
just go all over like, oh, look at that, look

833
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,159
at that schedule. That team's going eleven and one, that

834
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,199
team's going ten and two, and and you know you

835
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,239
look at it and say, well that might be possible,

836
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,599
but that mean, it brings so many teams into the picture,

837
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,239
and I really hope, you know, when it comes down

838
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,119
to it, I really hope they don't change them.

839
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this is I think they got it right. Honestly.

840
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: You know, you have four Power four champions making the field.

841
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,760
You know, none of this AQ bid nonsense that the

842
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,480
and then the field is small and not still small

843
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,519
enough that you've got to win a lot of games.

844
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,880
I mean, you start expanding it out to twenty or

845
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,320
twenty four, I mean, then you're looking at teams that

846
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,880
have three four losses and it's like, you know, at

847
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
that point, what are you doing. I really think that

848
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,480
it's right the way it is, and I hope it stays.

849
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:14,119
Speaker 2: That way.

850
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: But the difference between the number one team in the

851
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,480
country and number twenty five is probably as narrow as

852
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,800
I can remember it. And I'm not saying, you know

853
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,400
who's ranked number twenty five right now? You got Arizona

854
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,079
State in Utah in one pole, and I don't think

855
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,119
they're going to, you know, win the national championship or

856
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,239
anything like that. But I mean, you can't tell me

857
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,840
either one of those two teams can't pop can't you know,

858
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,159
maybe win a game in the playoffs, and I think

859
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,679
that that they can. So this is just going to

860
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,519
be I think fantastic for the next next couple months.

861
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,199
So we'll blow it all up in a year or two.

862
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,000
But I'm going to enjoy the rest of this the

863
00:45:58,039 --> 00:45:58,639
rest of this.

864
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Year, Well said Jeff, Well said Jeff, So Tim and

865
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:13,960
Jeff keep your eye on South Dakota State at Youngstown State.

866
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840
I don't have the guts to pull the trigger, but

867
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,440
that game might be a little closer than everybody thinks.

868
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,159
Youngstown State seems like they're a little peskier than they

869
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,320
have been and have been for it have been in

870
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,360
a few years, and it could be it could be

871
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,760
an interesting FCS game to keep keep a watch on. Tim,

872
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:35,519
thank you so much for joining the Elseworths Discussion ACC podcast.

873
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,559
We loved having you come on the show and we

874
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,039
would love to have you come back on the show

875
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,599
again sometime. Anything you want to plug on the site

876
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:46,559
before you go, who Who's any features you got.

877
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,679
Speaker 3: On the site, gentlemen, I appreciate We're gonna have plenty

878
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:53,000
of great stuff recapping text stunning went over enc he

879
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:56,679
stayed along with continuing to cover this coaching search and

880
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,480
all that, and the best way it's gonna be be

881
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,000
an insider seven dollars a month or seventy dollars a

882
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:04,960
year to be a TLP insider, to get all the coverage,

883
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:08,000
all the dive into the potential coaching candidates, all the

884
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,039
coverage of this football team and what happens, how will

885
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:14,320
this season play out? So much more basketball season on

886
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,800
the horizon as well, with a lot up with some

887
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:21,480
excitement about men's basketball, and Napolis have Dallas, a name

888
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,400
that a lot of people are going to likely get

889
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,920
to know this year. A Greek standout coming over to

890
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,639
the United States, considered a like a top twenty level

891
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:34,079
NBA draft prospect, the most talented freshman since at least

892
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:39,880
Nikhil Alexander Walker to arrive in Blacksburg. So a very

893
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,719
interesting road ahead. Best way to be a TLP insider, And.

894
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: I will say this with myself. Tim has the best

895
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,519
Virginia Tech Athletics blog out there that's of course not

896
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,320
affiliated with the university. It's an independent site. It's the

897
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:01,000
best one out there, the most widely read from Virginia

898
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,400
Techa Athletics, the most widely read independent blog. And Tim,

899
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,719
thank you so much for spending your Sunday night with us.

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00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,280
You guys have a great week, Appreciate it.

