Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the weird weird weird guys welcome
Speaker 1: to Blets have said, so, I kid you not, this
Speaker 1: is one of the most magical and amazing manifestations that
Speaker 1: has ever occurred in my life. For four years now,
Speaker 1: since we've started this show, I have in secret, and
Speaker 1: you can ask my wife later, I have in secret
Speaker 1: told my wife I want Kylie Bear to join us
Speaker 1: for a chat about UFOs and the paranormal. And you
Speaker 1: are sitting here with us tonight. I like, honestly can't
Speaker 1: believe it. It's it's the craziest thing. And for those who
Speaker 1: are out there and not sure who this wonderful human
Speaker 1: being is, he is a sensational phenomenon in the world
Speaker 1: of anime and voice acting. You are probably one of
Speaker 1: the most well the most credits accumulate, I mean some
Speaker 1: of the most legendary roles in all of anime. I
Speaker 1: think it speaks for yourself. And when they hear your voice,
Speaker 1: if they watch anime, they're gonna know one of my
Speaker 1: absolute all time favorite characters in all of fiction. Adult Gohan,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is yeah. Isn't saying that even weird?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3: It's incredible though, Like Gohan is one of the very
Speaker 3: coolest parts of Dragon Ball Z. It's one of the
Speaker 3: coolest characters in anime period hard stop.
Speaker 1: So anyway, without further ado, I could go. I could
Speaker 1: go thirty minutes just gassing you up. So, Kyle, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much for joining us. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a blessing to us.
Speaker 4: Thank you, blessing right back at you, guys, Thank you
Speaker 4: so much for having me, because you know, I've been
Speaker 4: working in the industry for twenty five years, starting with
Speaker 4: Gohan on Dragon Ball Z. When the character first appears
Speaker 4: after the time skip after cell, he goes to high
Speaker 4: school right and he meets Videl and Go ten kid
Speaker 4: Go ten comes into play, which Kara Edwards voice both
Speaker 4: of those. And Kara and I came from the world
Speaker 4: of radio. We were on Radio Disney and then we
Speaker 4: happened to hear about open auditions for what was then
Speaker 4: Funimation which is now known as Crunchy Role. So our
Speaker 4: careers and voiceovers started at the same time. And yeah,
Speaker 4: it was wild. Here I was doing one of my
Speaker 4: childhood dreams, get on the radio. The second one was
Speaker 4: to do cartoon voices. And then suddenly it's it's that opportunity,
Speaker 4: but it's also something I was already a fan of
Speaker 4: for like two or three years before that, when the
Speaker 4: Canadian English dub first started airing in America before they
Speaker 4: moved into Texas.
Speaker 3: Wow, well you were involved in the Canadian dove as well.
Speaker 4: I only as a fan I watching it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but since then I have met many of the cast too,
Speaker 4: And you know, that's that's a real perk to getting
Speaker 4: to go to these cons and then fanboying out over that.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, I heard your voice for decades.
Speaker 4: This is so cool to finally meet you. You know.
Speaker 3: Wow, So before you got that role, you kind of
Speaker 3: already had like the ambition.
Speaker 4: Like absolutely really do that. I was a kid, probably
Speaker 4: seven or eight years old, and my dad and I
Speaker 4: would watch Looney Tunes every Saturday, and he told me
Speaker 4: about mel Blanc, legendary voice actor. There is no other
Speaker 4: one of a kind. And when he explained the process,
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, he goes into a recording booth and
Speaker 4: he records and he does the silly voices and all that.
Speaker 4: I had no idea it was all about acting, which
Speaker 4: it is. It's not about doing silly voices or impressions,
Speaker 4: and I learned about the genius of crafting those performances
Speaker 4: and giving them personality traits or tics or things that
Speaker 4: even though you can kind of tell it's the same
Speaker 4: guy doing the voice, that's not the point. The point
Speaker 4: is he could make acting that totally sold what those
Speaker 4: characters were doing, and that just just firmly implanted within
Speaker 4: my head. I wanted to contribute to that one day professionally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was an absolute genius because he
Speaker 3: would do things that were unconventional. Yeah, like you know,
Speaker 3: like the screaming is really like the iconic thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: one of the many iconic things he did, but it's
Speaker 3: like he's just screaming in his own voice. He would
Speaker 3: be like bugs Bunny one second, and then the next
Speaker 3: second he's just screaming in his own voice. Yeah, totally
Speaker 3: so funny and iconic.
Speaker 4: And you could try to hear the room noise when
Speaker 4: he screamed that loud. Oh yeah, it was great. And
Speaker 4: I think he was also kind of responsible for voice
Speaker 4: actors even getting credits at all, because in the beginning
Speaker 4: years of all that, they didn't credit the actors in
Speaker 4: the voice over REALM and he kind of had a
Speaker 4: little trick up his sleeve when it came time to
Speaker 4: renegotiate his contract in a way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what an inspiration, what a legend.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know it's like I was, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, I was a little I was a little
Speaker 1: star studded in the very beginning of the the intro here.
Speaker 1: And I know we said the one character, you know, Gohan,
Speaker 1: because I'm a dragon ball z nut. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you can see this, Kyle, but that's Chenron on
Speaker 1: the back of my phone. I mean, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I live and breathe it. But let's let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: not just glance past that. There are so many amazing
Speaker 1: roles that you are also known for in anime and
Speaker 1: beyond video games movies that are also amazing roles that
Speaker 1: I have grown up watching. Beyond Gohant, your influence is
Speaker 1: so massive. It's to the point to where like I'll
Speaker 1: just be watching a random anime and I hear your voice,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's that's that's you. You know, before
Speaker 1: we started recording, I was telling you I didn't know
Speaker 1: you were in one piece. I didn't know you were
Speaker 1: those two big characters. I was watching an episode about
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and I heard you and your voice.
Speaker 1: I recognized it on a thug, just some random thug.
Speaker 4: I've been many a thug, many of pirates, including one
Speaker 4: of the main thugs in the very first episode.
Speaker 1: That's the one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the long hair and the goateee walks in the
Speaker 4: in the gang leader and in the in the bar
Speaker 4: or restaurant or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just saw the flashback and I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, that's Kylie Bar because I knew we had
Speaker 1: an interview the mountain.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, and.
Speaker 1: In that moment, I'm getting somewhere with this right just
Speaker 1: for the audience to hear the manifestation part. So, just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I watched that flashback and
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, so, Kylie Bear isn't in one piece.
Speaker 1: But I thought you're just a thug. I had already
Speaker 1: seen two of your major characters that because of the
Speaker 1: acting that you were like, I couldn't tell it was you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that goes into what
Speaker 1: you're saying, you know, the acting. I just watched one
Speaker 1: hundred episodes last month of this character Veggie for our
Speaker 1: one piece Freaks out There. Oh my god, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I lay in bed thinking about the little the binkie,
Speaker 1: the cigar binkie with the baby and just the whole Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's hilarious, man, but it's it's incredible
Speaker 1: that you're here. I do feel a little bit of like, well,
Speaker 1: this is weird. I have for years I've wanted this,
Speaker 1: and it's like, now it's here. What do I do
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 4: Well, it's really cool. You know, you made it manifest,
Speaker 4: so you put it out into the world that came
Speaker 4: white back. Itches.
Speaker 2: My god, that is so trippy.
Speaker 4: I love that. It's so.
Speaker 1: Anyway, like I said, I could just gas you up
Speaker 1: and gas you up. So let's get to some meat.
Speaker 1: I saw an Instagram post several years ago, which is
Speaker 1: when I started to believe, Okay, there might be something here,
Speaker 1: and I saw that you had a post. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you still post about this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: but that you're you know, into UFOs and the paranormal
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. So I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, because as far as I know, in
Speaker 1: this voice acting space. There are many people who's vocal
Speaker 1: about that thing. As far as you know, spooky, weird things,
Speaker 1: it seems to be a lot of you know, just
Speaker 1: keeping it about what it is.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So, at what point in your life did you develop
Speaker 1: this deep fascination for the weird, paranormal, the UFO. Have
Speaker 1: you had any sort of experiences with this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: believe it or not.
Speaker 4: No, I never have, but it's always fascinated me. I'm
Speaker 4: gen X So I grew up in the in the
Speaker 4: seventies and there used to be that great show called
Speaker 4: In Search of hosted by Leonard Nimoy. He would cover
Speaker 4: different things one episode on Bigfoot or UFOs or ghost
Speaker 4: or you know, all these different things. And I was
Speaker 4: just fascinated by that. And then, you know, come along
Speaker 4: to like the nineties. I start listening to Art Bell
Speaker 4: Coast to Coast AM and I'm like, Wow, nightly, I
Speaker 4: can hear about this every night on the radio. This
Speaker 4: is awesome because I'm a night ol anyway, and just
Speaker 4: hearing the wide variety of people from all walks of life,
Speaker 4: whether they're in the military or the priesthood or you know,
Speaker 4: hearing stories about you know, Betty and Barney Hill or Edwin,
Speaker 4: Lorraine Warren and all that stuff. Regardless of whether things
Speaker 4: were debunked or not, it was still so fascinating to me.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I love that of a big horror buff.
Speaker 4: I love supernatural and horror movies of all kinds. And yeah,
Speaker 4: that stuff has fascinated me for years. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know some people associated with some of those
Speaker 1: people like I don't know ed Lorraine Warren, but I
Speaker 1: know some of the people that made the movie about
Speaker 1: her life. So it's like it always seems like in
Speaker 1: this circle, there's one degree of separation from everybody. It's
Speaker 1: really weird.
Speaker 4: Well, if you've seen the Conjuring movies, you know that's
Speaker 4: based on them. Ye know Ed Lorraine, and you know
Speaker 4: they obviously changed a lot about them. They made them
Speaker 4: younger and prettier.
Speaker 1: You know, I actually had wan so the parent family,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking about like the the not the
Speaker 1: ed Loraine Warren, but then the family that the movie
Speaker 1: is based on, that the Conjuring, right, yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're the Parent family and we've actually had one of
Speaker 1: their daughters on our show. Oh wow, okay, yeah, interesting, right,
Speaker 1: we kind of know some of the people that made
Speaker 1: the Conjuring movie, so we have that little connection there,
Speaker 1: Chad and Carry Hayes. They are these twin brothers who
Speaker 1: made they wrote the film. There in my dad's book,
Speaker 1: there's some stories there that we've kind of had some
Speaker 1: weird experiences with them. Oh wow, Yeah, always one weird
Speaker 1: little degree of separation here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, whether it's your family members or having that
Speaker 4: connection to the film community or whatnot, that's got to
Speaker 4: be a unique sensation. That's kind of hard to put
Speaker 4: in words right right, it's like my worlds are colliding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: A little weird.
Speaker 1: It is very strange how it seems like. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because we've been doing this for a while now.
Speaker 1: It just feels like, oh, you know, you're always one
Speaker 1: degree of separation from anyone, like Art Bell, like you,
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to Art Bell. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've had time to look into any of
Speaker 1: our story or anything like that. I know you're a
Speaker 1: very busy guy. But this started happening almost twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: like what we've been dealing with, and when it started
Speaker 1: going on, I grew up listening to Art Bell, you know,
Speaker 1: like you, I'm like, wow, this.
Speaker 3: Is that radio host a radio show?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, iconic.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like like Coast to Coast AM.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so Art Bell was the host of Yes,
Speaker 3: I've heard of Coast to Coast AM. I mean that's
Speaker 3: like prolific. I've heard of that. Okay, So that's the host.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, nice.
Speaker 3: So then after the river incident, you and your dad
Speaker 3: started listening to.
Speaker 1: It, Yes, started listening to Art Bell. And as a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, just like was really fascinated by Art Bell.
Speaker 1: And then somehow or another, I found myself, you know,
Speaker 1: being friends with George Nori, which you know who that is.
Speaker 2: Right, he's the current host.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's it's weird, Like I guess if I
Speaker 1: had to phrase it in a different way, it's strange.
Speaker 1: How like you as a child, you know, you're into
Speaker 1: you say it was Mel Blank. Yeah forgive me, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew the name, but that I didn't know the characters.
Speaker 1: But like you know, you're looking at Mel Blank. You're
Speaker 1: so fascinated by this. You want to be a voice actor,
Speaker 1: and it's this thought that's in your head and the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, it's right in front of you
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh wow, this is real. You know,
Speaker 1: I have brought this into my sphere. It's very strange.
Speaker 1: So if you don't mind me asking, how old were
Speaker 1: you or at what point was it that you, like
Speaker 1: started what point in your life was it that you
Speaker 1: started voice acting?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean professionally, I would say it was during
Speaker 4: my radio career because at Radio Disney it was pretty
Speaker 4: much based on a lot of theater of the mind,
Speaker 4: like radio drama.
Speaker 2: Oh cool.
Speaker 4: I was writing radio dramas obviously aimed at kids and whatnot.
Speaker 4: I was a contributing producer. I helped create character voices
Speaker 4: for them. I didn't have an acting background like I didn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't a theater kid or any of that. Because
Speaker 4: I'm actually really shy and introverted. Working in radio and
Speaker 4: doing the voice thing, I gained confidence. So suddenly I
Speaker 4: was able to you know, I had no problem doing
Speaker 4: public address stuff at panels or having you know, a
Speaker 4: tour group come through. Here's a bunch of boy Scouts
Speaker 4: or girl Scouts and we're gonna watch you dub this
Speaker 4: scene or whatever. It's like. Normally that would be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: this is awkward. But I saw it as a fun
Speaker 4: opportunity because people could have a chance to see what
Speaker 4: the process is and how much fun an actor can
Speaker 4: really have doing the process. You know, with anime, in particular,
Speaker 4: your animation is on the screen, your scripts in front
Speaker 4: of you. Nowadays it's on its own screen, the script,
Speaker 4: and you're watching and previewing each line in Japanese and
Speaker 4: doing all that. That part I didn't know about for decades.
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure how anime was dubbed into English. I
Speaker 4: knew about the cartoon process, which is where you have
Speaker 4: the whole cast together. That's what I was looking forward to.
Speaker 4: I wanted to have. I wanted to be able to
Speaker 4: sit in the same room as the other actors. Everyone
Speaker 4: has their own mic, a music stand with the script
Speaker 4: and they do it radio play style, just seen by
Speaker 4: some and you can you can play off each other's performance,
Speaker 4: and you can watch them all screw up so not
Speaker 4: be so self conscious when you screw up and all
Speaker 4: that stuff.
Speaker 3: Did you get a Have you gotten a chance to
Speaker 3: work like that?
Speaker 4: I have a few times, I guess. The biggest high
Speaker 4: profile thing was back on Disney x D Avengers, Earth's
Speaker 4: mightiest heroes. I got to be Super Scroll.
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: He didn't really talk. He's just more like Space Hulk basically.
Speaker 4: And then some bit Park characters on the episode too.
Speaker 4: But I got to be in the same room as
Speaker 4: the cast. Not all of them were there, some had
Speaker 4: already recorded. It's like, there's the voice actor for Iron Man,
Speaker 4: and there's the voice sector for Captain America, and here's
Speaker 4: eg Daily. Eg Daily I knew from Powerpuff Girls. And
Speaker 4: she was also Dotty on Pee Wee Herman's first movie,
Speaker 4: Pee Wee's Big Adventure. She goes Way, she goes way
Speaker 4: back then. So she has been doing on camera and voiceover,
Speaker 4: and after I did my scene, she just quietly leans
Speaker 4: over and.
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Speaker 4: And that was actually after I moved to La so Go.
Speaker 4: So being in Texas, you know, I'm in my early thirties,
Speaker 4: late twenties, getting to work with Fundimation, and then I
Speaker 4: left Dallas, left my radio job in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: came out to the West coast, uh, and walked away.
Speaker 4: That is this scariest moment in my life, walking away
Speaker 4: from everything you know and love and not knowing really
Speaker 4: anybody other than a couple of professional contacts in La
Speaker 4: so of course I'm immediately go broke like most people.
Speaker 4: And you got there hoping that that phonal ring and
Speaker 4: it's like that's just not how it works. You know,
Speaker 4: You're not get discovered as my dad thought. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: just walking to the office at William Morris and work
Speaker 4: in the mailroom, and it's like, that's not how it works.
Speaker 4: Work your way up, work your way off. It's like,
Speaker 4: and everybody's story is unique. So people who think if
Speaker 4: they take all the voice acting classes in the world
Speaker 4: and they do exactly and they have the perfect demo
Speaker 4: and the perfect recording set up and all that, that
Speaker 4: suddenly everything just falls into place, And sadly it doesn't.
Speaker 4: There's there there. There is a huge percentage of luck
Speaker 4: versus talent versus networking and all that stuff and stuff
Speaker 4: that I didn't really know much going into until I
Speaker 4: was already in the throes of it. It's like, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, okay, I got to make ends meet, I
Speaker 4: got to have some income and actually pay the rent.
Speaker 4: I went into a massive credit card debt, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh. It took ten years to become an
Speaker 4: overnight sensation in La but I within a few months
Speaker 4: thanks to Steve Bloom, a legendary voice actor who hadn't
Speaker 4: met at a convention as a fellow guest the year
Speaker 4: before Nice he introduced me to his agent, Arlene Thornton,
Speaker 4: and she's now my agent, and we've been on the
Speaker 4: same talent roster at her agency. He was there long
Speaker 4: before I was. He's been doing it longer than me.
Speaker 4: But I got onto Naruto because of him. Keeba.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. By the way, total weird synchronousy. Didn't you
Speaker 1: just buy that shirt?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know the character on the back of your shirt
Speaker 1: is Steve Bloom right his voice.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I didn't even think about that. I mean
Speaker 3: Cowboy Bebo in the back of my shirt.
Speaker 1: Yes, Spike from Cowboy, But that was brand new shirt.
Speaker 1: He just got it the other day.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, that is a crazy synchronicity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, something that's been on my mind lately
Speaker 1: is because I, you know, have been mentally thinking about
Speaker 1: this coming up, knowing that we were going to be
Speaker 1: having this talk. Sure, I've been especially curious, and I
Speaker 1: think you're the most like probably qualified person in the
Speaker 1: world to ask this, or at least the most qualified
Speaker 1: person around at the moment in my environment. But is
Speaker 1: there any like similar level of satisfaction to also voicing
Speaker 1: those roles that aren't on that icon level, like the thug,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Does it Is there that
Speaker 1: same level of satisfaction?
Speaker 4: Uh? There is because I'm getting to do the craft.
Speaker 4: I'm getting to help bring a character to life. And
Speaker 4: you know the process of improv cold reading, taking direction,
Speaker 4: working with this uh uh, working with the director to
Speaker 4: help craft this stuff, and the director giving me bullet points.
Speaker 4: You know, there's not time or budget, honestly to sit
Speaker 4: there and preview and watch the episode ahead of time
Speaker 4: or or any of that. So I'm a clean slate
Speaker 4: going in, and I like that challenge. I think of
Speaker 4: voice acting is the purest form of acting because you
Speaker 4: drip away the physicality, strip away. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 4: I look like or how old I am, or how
Speaker 4: big or small or whatever that. It's just like, what
Speaker 4: can I do with my voice? Can I Can I
Speaker 4: channel all the physicality into the voice, whether it's running
Speaker 4: efforts like you know, do the fight sounds and all
Speaker 4: that stuff and power up yells, kame ha me you
Speaker 4: know all my oh God, go through all that and
Speaker 4: then hopefully your voice is still intact at the end.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not true, it does happen, but we have
Speaker 4: nice life hacks like Chinese cough syrup. Hell, oh, local
Speaker 4: chords amazing. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, especially around when Super Saying
Speaker 1: three came out. Don't you remember it was such a
Speaker 1: big deal Goku passed out. Did you guys really be
Speaker 1: like passing out while you're doing your kames and stuff?
Speaker 4: Some of them did. I got dizzy. I got very lightheaded.
Speaker 4: I had to sit down for a while.
Speaker 3: I don't see how you wouldn't get lightheaded doing all
Speaker 3: that screaming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, I remember one scream being so long that
Speaker 4: it was basically two takes a full breath and then
Speaker 4: the rest for a second, and then do the second one,
Speaker 4: and they would cross fade it into the yo tools
Speaker 4: and then just put reverb on it. It just sounds
Speaker 4: like inhumanly long. But in the shot in the series,
Speaker 4: it doesn't stay on that. It cuts to other characters
Speaker 4: talking while that scream is still continuing in the background.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the exact sequence that that was?
Speaker 4: Like? What? No? No, I actually don't. It's a blur.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I killed enough brain cells in a moment
Speaker 4: you've liked.
Speaker 1: Out oxygen starved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't sure if this was the majin
Speaker 4: Boo saga or not, but.
Speaker 3: A lot of screaming in that song. Oh yeah, a
Speaker 3: lot of screaming in.
Speaker 1: That That is where so I was never and I'm
Speaker 1: not just saying this because you played adult Gohan and
Speaker 1: not child Gohan, but I'm seriously, I was never a
Speaker 1: huge fan of child Gohan. He's cool, but I was
Speaker 1: always like Goku, that's my my favorite. But then, and granted,
Speaker 1: I was three years old when when I first started
Speaker 1: watching Dragon Ball, so like my whole life, I'm talking
Speaker 1: a child that probably thinks about this stuff way too
Speaker 1: much at that age, but go, I was attached to
Speaker 1: Goku and child Gohan. I don't know, it's the ball cut.
Speaker 1: I was like, he's kind of a nerd totally. But
Speaker 1: then when the Majin Boos saga came around, for some reason,
Speaker 1: it just like switched and I had I have this
Speaker 1: attachment to like the adult form of Gohan. I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination of the voice, you know, your voice,
Speaker 1: just the fact that he like grows up, he's more powerful,
Speaker 1: he gets the mystic form. But he's so cool. Can
Speaker 1: we can we talk about this right now? Adult Gohan
Speaker 1: is he's cool as.
Speaker 3: Hell, and I'm gonna go out on a limb here
Speaker 3: and say I'm going in direct opposition of any haters
Speaker 3: in the world and say, great, say a man. Oh
Speaker 3: also fires one of the coolest.
Speaker 2: He's so cool and he's so funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my favorite version of gohan is honestly because
Speaker 4: he sounds like a game show host. I am look right,
Speaker 4: this almost sounds like like you've just won a new car.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to ask directly, but I had a
Speaker 3: feeling with you being such a fan of like radio
Speaker 3: and mel Blank and like I was like, I feel like,
Speaker 3: like Great Saleman really scratches that it for him.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, especially on all the video games where there's
Speaker 4: all this new dialogue and storylines and everything and what
Speaker 4: if scenarios that don't take place in the anime. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I love any chance to play that big fake superhero
Speaker 4: because you know, in the movie Superhero, you thought Great
Speaker 4: Salaman would have been in it, but he was.
Speaker 1: That's that thought never came to my mind until now,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm mad, I'm crossing my arms. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never even considered that thought.
Speaker 3: Of him being that.
Speaker 2: We need justice for Great Saleman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2: Seriously, Like, seriously.
Speaker 3: Can I can the next movie just be Great Salaman?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would, I would love that. I'm a I truly
Speaker 1: love Great Salmon. He's awesome. I mean, come on, how
Speaker 1: does it feel seeing yourself in video games? Is that
Speaker 1: any different? Or like hearing your voice rather?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I thought it
Speaker 4: was amazing. Back when you know, Dragon ball Z. The
Speaker 4: episodes would air on Cartoon Network first, and then they
Speaker 4: came on VHS and then DVD and all that. Three
Speaker 4: episodes heavily edited, but it was the only way to
Speaker 4: get them legit.
Speaker 2: Legally I had, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had quite the collection. Luckily I got free copies
Speaker 4: back then.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 4: So watching on on on Cartoon Network, especially that first
Speaker 4: time when an episode with like, of course they misspelled
Speaker 4: my last name a bear is h E B E
Speaker 4: r T. It's Louisiana French, right, but most people don't
Speaker 4: know that, so they think Kyle Herbert a g R
Speaker 4: B E r D. So naturally that's I saw how
Speaker 4: I saw my name in the credits.
Speaker 3: But that's network they did that, They vested up on
Speaker 3: Cartoon Network.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was done. The credits are all
Speaker 4: done in house. At now crunchy role and all that so,
Speaker 4: and it's far too expensive to go back and change
Speaker 4: it and remaster it and all that stuff. And I
Speaker 4: didn't understand all that back then. But honestly, the coolest
Speaker 4: part was, Yeah, hearing my voice coming out of an
Speaker 4: animated character, and then seeing my name on the credits,
Speaker 4: and then me being able to record that and show
Speaker 4: friends or even my family who didn't see it, and
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, yeah, that's awesome. And then having a
Speaker 4: playable character in a game that's even cooler. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: if I could play as Gohan in Sparking zero or
Speaker 4: or Reu and street Fighter six love.
Speaker 1: All that, Yeah, that's awesome. Me and Nick would put well,
Speaker 1: like back when we were in high school. We go
Speaker 1: way back, like almost twenty years. Actually this year would
Speaker 1: be twenty years. We've been friends WHOA and back in
Speaker 1: the earlier days of our friendship, when it was less
Speaker 1: online gaming as it is today, it was it was
Speaker 1: a lot more couch co op. We would play Street
Speaker 1: Fighter four a lot, right, yeah, and we were always
Speaker 1: were You and Ken.
Speaker 2: Always.
Speaker 1: Nick would play re You and I would play Ken.
Speaker 1: I can't play for you if he's playing for you,
Speaker 1: so I play can right, But you know what's crazy, Kyle,
Speaker 1: I just realized this today. Not only are you REU,
Speaker 1: but we've also had one of the voice actors for
Speaker 1: Ken on our show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rubin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a friend.
Speaker 4: Love Rubin. That's awesome. He's he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a sweetheart. And I just I realize that today.
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, this is weird, you know, little synchronicity happening.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 2: Do you That brings up a good point.
Speaker 3: Do you like do you and your your fellow voice
Speaker 3: actors like not being able to work together all the
Speaker 3: time on.
Speaker 2: Sets and stuff?
Speaker 3: What do you what do you do to like to
Speaker 3: keep up with each other. I see a lot of
Speaker 3: voice actors playing D and D. You're doing any T
Speaker 3: and D campaigns?
Speaker 4: No tabletop things, not really my my bag. But we
Speaker 4: do have a chance to catch up at conventions, like
Speaker 4: kind of in the green room. You know, we can't
Speaker 4: do it while we're at the booth because we're interacting
Speaker 4: with fans and everything, but you know, during breaks and whatnot,
Speaker 4: I could go back there and like, oh, there's Chris Sabbat,
Speaker 4: I am talk to him in Forever. It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: or Sean Schimmel or or or maybe some cartoon people. Oh,
Speaker 4: Tara Strong, Oh there's a you know, Billy West, you know,
Speaker 4: or Rob Halson, Maurice LaMarsh or some Star Trek people
Speaker 4: or some Star Wars people. It's like, what, this is
Speaker 4: the coolest. And I don't have to pay because I'm
Speaker 4: a fellow guest dude, and try not to fanboy out.
Speaker 4: Like I could go every few months and see Jim
Speaker 4: Carlo Esposito backstage and he is so kind. You're just like, hey,
Speaker 4: how's going good? All right, that's amazing having a good show. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh my god, that's dude from Breaking Bad
Speaker 4: and and The Mandalorian.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: You you really feel like you take stock, Like I
Speaker 3: feel like hearing you talk about it, you are really
Speaker 3: taking stock in like you you're kind. Do you feel
Speaker 3: like you're living your dream?
Speaker 4: I do? I do. And that's why kind of going
Speaker 4: back to that question about like do you connect more
Speaker 4: with a named character as opposed to Walla or bit
Speaker 4: parts or unnamed character. I'm man A or cop C
Speaker 4: or Monster CD or I just love that I get
Speaker 4: to do it, but if it connects with an audience
Speaker 4: that is even cooler. That is cool, because yeah, I
Speaker 4: have been blessed to have funkco pops made of several
Speaker 4: characters Gohan, Kiba, Eisen escanor from Seven Deadly Sins, and
Speaker 4: people will bring those and the variants and all that,
Speaker 4: and I am so grateful because honestly, I've been able
Speaker 4: to make more of a successful, lucrative living on the
Speaker 4: convention scene than even doing voiceover, which is ironic because
Speaker 4: I'm only there on the convention scene because of the voiceover.
Speaker 1: You know, there is something deeper, though than just like
Speaker 1: the success of it, which I know you're not saying that,
Speaker 1: but just beyond all that, man, Yeah, yeah, You're raising
Speaker 1: generations of children with your voice, listening to you and
Speaker 1: hearing you, in sitting with you for hours and hours,
Speaker 1: and a lot of your characters, like Gohan, what a
Speaker 1: role model.
Speaker 2: I grew up.
Speaker 1: Wanting to be like him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, Shoot, I remember I was like in the
Speaker 1: third grade when when Dragon ball Z got to the
Speaker 1: Boo Saga and I was eight years old and I
Speaker 1: saw the first toy of the Boo Saga and like
Speaker 1: Mad and Boo and kid tronks, whoa who is that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: I had just watched you know, Freezer and Sell you
Speaker 1: know what I mean with the time skip yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like, those are some of the most iconic earliest
Speaker 1: memories of my entire life, like trying to do a
Speaker 1: kamehameha wishing I could go super say, you know all
Speaker 1: the nineties kids before and the kids now. My little nephew, Teddy,
Speaker 1: he's five years old. I sit with him and I
Speaker 1: make him watch Dragon ball Z and now he's watching
Speaker 1: One Piece, and it's like, do you ever think about that,
Speaker 1: like the legacy that you're leaving for the children.
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it at the time, But as
Speaker 4: the years go on and the conventions I attend, I'm
Speaker 4: hearing more and more stories, especially as the fans age
Speaker 4: and start having families of their own. They'll say, Hey,
Speaker 4: you were my childhood. I hear that so often, and
Speaker 4: I know they don't mean it as you're old. They
Speaker 4: just literally mean it as legit. It's like, you're the
Speaker 4: voice of my childhood. Man, you were my babysitter, whether
Speaker 4: it's the narrator next time I'm dragging ball Z or
Speaker 4: Old Bolly's getting married, oh yeah, oh yeah. And then
Speaker 4: Gohan of course during you miss mentioned the Majin Boo saga,
Speaker 4: so the iconic when people say, what's your favorite line?
Speaker 4: Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Speaker 1: When he showed up and he clapped mag and boo
Speaker 1: until of course he swallows him because the curator Yama
Speaker 1: had to make Goku the making, which I'm not mad about.
Speaker 1: You know, I love Goku, but Gohan's coming back. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that he's been.
Speaker 4: Nerved for so long, but the beast form is like,
Speaker 4: that's top tier. I don't think there Goku is gonna
Speaker 4: suddenly surpass his son or I think reading the manga,
Speaker 4: I think that Wee even said that Gohan is the strongest,
Speaker 4: saying right now. So it's like I will take that.
Speaker 3: But he really always has been.
Speaker 1: He always has Yeah. I just a year or two
Speaker 1: ago and then I started watching One Piece and I stopped.
Speaker 1: I ran through the Freezer saga from very beginning of
Speaker 1: DBZ all the way to the Freezer Soaka again because
Speaker 1: I was like, why not I miss it? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: there are so many moments with it being set up
Speaker 1: for Gohan to become the main character. And we all
Speaker 1: know this a Curatriyama back with the cell thing. Goku died.
Speaker 1: Gohan was supposed to be the main character. He was
Speaker 1: propped up to be. From what I always heard growing up,
Speaker 1: all the kids in Japan locked themselves in the room
Speaker 1: and were crying and throwing a fit that that Gohan died.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh crap, and he had to bring
Speaker 1: Goku back? Is something more or less like that is
Speaker 1: what I always heard growing up, right, But so I
Speaker 1: think for years, rest in peace to the legend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a Karritoryama had to nerve Gohan to appease people. He's coming,
Speaker 1: He is coming back.
Speaker 4: And I kind of saw a superhero as a real treat,
Speaker 4: just especially for the fans who felt like, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: Gohan didn't have his day. Let's give him and Piccolo,
Speaker 4: let's give them an upgrade. Let's give them a much
Speaker 4: deserved upgrade. And it's like, yeah, you could look at
Speaker 4: it cynically and say, okay, it took Piccolo and pans
Speaker 4: to gas like Gohan to get to do this, but
Speaker 4: boy did it work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, however he had to get there, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: He got there. And I kind of love. Actually, that's
Speaker 2: my favorite part.
Speaker 3: Of that movie is the thing that made Gohan finally
Speaker 3: snap is seeing his step dad. Yeah, seeing Piccolo getting
Speaker 3: like about to die, like about to die. That's what
Speaker 3: like finally made him snap and got him there.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: One of one of the things I always connected super
Speaker 3: deeply with with DBZ was the relationship between Piccolo and Gohan.
Speaker 1: It's is real dead it is.
Speaker 4: I was about to say that, Yes, people say who's
Speaker 4: his dad? Go Cou or Piccolo. It's like, honestly, come on, Piccolo,
Speaker 4: have you watched Dim Kyle? I have only seen the
Speaker 4: first three episodes because they showed them dubbed in the
Speaker 4: theater and I went and saw that and I was
Speaker 4: just too distracted and busy by life to finish the show.
Speaker 4: And I hear the general consensus is positive. It was good.
Speaker 4: You know, it was anime of the year. Was it?
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I have been because let's just say, I have been
Speaker 1: texting Sean as it was coming out the super saying
Speaker 1: four stuff, and he was so worried about like, well, basically,
Speaker 1: I hope they love it.
Speaker 2: I hope they love it.
Speaker 1: And it was just like Boom anime of the year,
Speaker 1: amazing success, Like, dude, you got this, it's amazing. But
Speaker 1: what was I going to say?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: In Diamond And one of the early episodes they make
Speaker 1: for the first time ever in DBZ as far as
Speaker 1: I can remember, they make a real reference to Goku
Speaker 1: being a bad father to go on. Oh wow, it's
Speaker 1: a joke. Goku makes a comment like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't really raise him that much. He didn't find
Speaker 1: that funny.
Speaker 4: In that first episode, didn't Bowlmas say someone asked, hey,
Speaker 4: where's Gohan? Oh? He must be off studying. It's like,
Speaker 4: at least they acknowledged him, unlike the Broley movie, where
Speaker 4: it's like they didn't even say Gohan's name. In the
Speaker 4: Broley movie, It's like, what.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't either.
Speaker 2: They don't even reference him at all.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: DBZ is prolific. I always think about it as being
Speaker 1: like the Japanese version of like the Titanic level that
Speaker 1: Disney is in America. It's just untouchable, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's got so many moving parts, it's insane. Don't want
Speaker 1: to get you in any trouble. So if this is
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you can't talk about, we
Speaker 1: can just just say it, you know. But I'm curious, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to get into any sort of trouble,
Speaker 1: but I just want to talk about like the future
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, Dragon Ball. Yeah, in a legally
Speaker 1: safe way, of course.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, ever since a Kuratoryama passed away, I
Speaker 4: have read that there are some legal entanglements about the
Speaker 4: rights of ownership between Shueisha and Toye and Will's. We'll
Speaker 4: see where that ends up. Hopefully everyone can can work
Speaker 4: it out, because I know all the fans want to
Speaker 4: see Super come back, and you know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of the manga that has yet to be animated. I
Speaker 4: can only speculate, like if I were them and they
Speaker 4: get the go ahead to make Super again, like Super
Speaker 4: Part two or whatever, I would wait until the manga's done.
Speaker 4: And that way you avoid that problem of having to
Speaker 4: come up with filler that no one asked for. You
Speaker 4: can tell a story in its purest form, which Naruto
Speaker 4: and Bleach is littered with hundreds of filler episodes, which
Speaker 4: is a huge turnoff, a huge turnoff for many fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way Eisen and Bleach, right, Yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big Bleach watcher. My brother Jeremy shout out.
Speaker 1: I love Jeremy, I have. I've seen a few episodes,
Speaker 1: like maybe thirty. My brother's obsessed with Bleach. It was
Speaker 1: his first major anime. I'm almost caught up on one
Speaker 1: piece and then I'm I'm gonna start going into some
Speaker 1: other showing it and Bleach is definitely on my list.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to give that one another
Speaker 1: fair chance. I remember why I brought up the future
Speaker 1: of Dragon Ball thing though, because I saw a post
Speaker 1: last week or the week before, Toyo Tarro put out
Speaker 1: a message with a new cover of you saw It,
Speaker 1: and they're hinting there's about to be a major press
Speaker 1: release at Super So I'm like, it's been like what
Speaker 1: eight years?
Speaker 4: My god, I hope. So that cover is on the
Speaker 4: latest manga and someone brought me a copy of the
Speaker 4: Japanese version. It hadn't been translated yet into the English one,
Speaker 4: but they had me sign that. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is so cool. I wonder when the English one's coming out,
Speaker 4: But yeah, that cover is killer.
Speaker 2: Because Gohan Beast.
Speaker 3: Gohan is on the cover, right, Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: Goku vegeta Broley Piccolo and Gohan, right.
Speaker 1: And all their like peak form forms. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was the first thing. He went on a hiatus when
Speaker 1: a curatory Alma passed away. It's been like a year
Speaker 1: and a half of nothing, really, I mean, movie is
Speaker 1: Superhero maybe maybe that came out for a couple of years, Dima,
Speaker 1: but otherwise it's been like radio silence. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: about to be a huge announcement here soon. Oh, this
Speaker 1: will come out right after that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's got to a few years ago. Toya said they
Speaker 4: have a ten year plan, whether it's shows, movies, games,
Speaker 4: you know. So I think it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 4: You know, we just got to wait it out because
Speaker 4: God knows, so many years went by before we got
Speaker 4: new movies, which led those successes led to Super Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then more movies, and then of course the games
Speaker 4: continue to get better and better every year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember when they ann the first one
Speaker 3: to come I think was Battle of the Gods those movies.
Speaker 3: Was that that was the first one of the newer movies. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I think, oh yeah, I remember when they announced that.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, there's a new Dragon ball Z movie? Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: is it? Am I dreaming? Like what's happening right now?
Speaker 3: And then it just like spiraled and just momentum, momentum,
Speaker 3: the demand from the fan.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Dragon balls Z.
Speaker 1: It's mythic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to confuse Hollywood studios because these were
Speaker 4: theatrically released and they were always number one box office.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and they are scratching their heads like what's
Speaker 4: this anime thing? You know?
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I have never in my life
Speaker 3: been in a more active theater ever than watching both Brolly,
Speaker 3: Super Broly and Superhero.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When when beast Gohan happened, everyone in the theater was
Speaker 3: on their feet like screaming and like like every everyone clapping,
Speaker 3: and it was like being in a a like a
Speaker 3: boxing match.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an iconic moment for me that one of
Speaker 4: my high points in my career is sitting it watching
Speaker 4: it in imax. First of all, sold out screening people
Speaker 4: are like going, is that all you got?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Then guess it's my turn and people are going oh,
Speaker 4: and then he changes and then they're like like oh,
Speaker 4: my god, I got to I got to voice that.
Speaker 1: So when you do the super say in transformations, uh huh,
Speaker 1: do they really pitch your voice down?
Speaker 4: No? No, I mean as far as I know, at
Speaker 4: least not for me. I've always been full on.
Speaker 1: I had always Goku goes through like the deeper levels
Speaker 1: of Maybe that was just a myth I heard a
Speaker 1: long time ago, but I'm curious about that. It's so
Speaker 1: fascinating hearing from you, like what the process is Like,
Speaker 1: I always wonder, like when you're reading the lines, are
Speaker 1: you seeing the animation? So that's gonna be so fun
Speaker 1: right to just Yeah, I'm sure it can be stressful
Speaker 1: sometime because it's work. Everything can be worked, but it's
Speaker 1: got to be like, that's an experience I long for.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My favorite way of dubbing is something that a
Speaker 4: lot of the companies that do live action dubs. When
Speaker 4: we're taking European or Asian shows for Netflix, creating an
Speaker 4: English dub for that. The script will come across the
Speaker 4: screen on the bottom like karaoke, and I hit this
Speaker 4: line along this side, and when it hits the line,
Speaker 4: that's when you stay say the word. So it's like
Speaker 4: a game. It gamifies dubbing and like that's a ton
Speaker 4: of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very cool. What's your favorite role that you
Speaker 1: have done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say probably Gohan because it's the one
Speaker 4: I've done the longest. It's where my career began. Even
Speaker 4: though one project doesn't necessarily lead into another. With momentum,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you were Gohan, I'm going to cast you.
Speaker 4: It's not like that, but you know, the success came
Speaker 4: over time. We went from Dragon ball Z to Blue
Speaker 4: Gender a little more obscure title, and then you you
Speaker 4: Haka Show and Full Metal Alchemist and then like I
Speaker 4: leave Texas and suddenly I'm on Naruto and then a
Speaker 4: few months later Bleach and then Ger and log on
Speaker 4: those who just so many things and then I'm recording
Speaker 4: games left and right. Like you said, the IMDV credit
Speaker 4: list is kind of long. Yes, so many projects I've
Speaker 4: forgotten I've recorded on. I have to trust people on
Speaker 4: social media when they tag me, it's like you were
Speaker 4: great and so and so it's like I'm in that.
Speaker 1: Mela told me a funny story. Actually she said it
Speaker 1: on our show or maybe off show, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It was like you guys were at a convention together
Speaker 1: and y'all had recorded in a show that she didn't
Speaker 1: remember that she recorded. Yeah, and someone came up to
Speaker 1: the table and they were like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: loved you in this show. And you whispered to her
Speaker 1: and you're like this X Men or something like that.
Speaker 2: You're like, we're in that together. That's why they're asking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, X Men Arcade. They for whatever reason, when they
Speaker 4: brought the X Men Arcade the nineties arcade game two consoles,
Speaker 4: they decided to redub the voices so that I did
Speaker 4: all the male voices. Mela did all the female voices.
Speaker 4: Very cool, Wow, all of them, all of them. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you can hear me sound like great, sayaman with Professor X,
Speaker 4: like go and save the city.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 3: It's like we talked earlier about like if it's a dream,
Speaker 3: like you're living your dream, you feel like you're yeah,
Speaker 3: with with your belief in like the supernatural and maybe
Speaker 3: like some of the spiritual stuff.
Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like do you believe in
Speaker 2: like destiny?
Speaker 4: I think so. I think there is a lot to
Speaker 4: that saying that what you put out into the universe
Speaker 4: comes back to you. I think things are cliche for
Speaker 4: a reason, you know, whether they're exaggerated or not. I
Speaker 4: think there's at least a crumble of truth, a little
Speaker 4: kernel of truth in these things that over the passage
Speaker 4: of time you pass it on and then you know,
Speaker 4: nowadays everything is a meme, so like that's how you
Speaker 4: communicate to the masses. Make it a meme, inspirational quote
Speaker 4: or whatnot. But I mean the important is people are
Speaker 4: seeing it, and you know there you take the information
Speaker 4: and do with it what you will. But you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not I'm not really into any sort
Speaker 4: of religion or anything. I am totally open to whatever
Speaker 4: is out there in the universe. If there's some sort
Speaker 4: of grand design to it, all, absolutely open to that.
Speaker 4: And you know the thing about aliens or otherworldly extraterrestrial
Speaker 4: type things, I'm totally open to interdimensional beings or whatnot.
Speaker 4: And if it's all tied together to a creator or whatnot,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Hey, you know, it's like some things
Speaker 4: aren't just concrete with here's the proof and here's what
Speaker 4: you need. Some things are kind of up for debate,
Speaker 4: and then other things it's like, well, how can we
Speaker 4: really get that definitive thing and I think we're always
Speaker 4: questing to find the answers definitive that you're never going
Speaker 4: to get a naysayer or anyone trolling you about It's like, ah,
Speaker 4: that's a bunch of crap. It's like, is it though?
Speaker 1: I come on, Yes, that's very well put, and you're
Speaker 1: in the right company with I mean saying like there
Speaker 1: has to be some sort of design to things, but
Speaker 1: also like not particularly I would say that's bordering the
Speaker 1: line of like a mystical approach, you know, aware that
Speaker 1: there's something there, but being open and and adopting what works.
Speaker 1: And I love that. That's that's very insightful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like, if is multiverse a thing, it sure
Speaker 4: is an awesome concept for entertainment purposes, But man, can
Speaker 4: you imagine if someone if someone dies in this universe,
Speaker 4: in this reality, and they just continue living in another
Speaker 4: world and another that's another plane, and you know, basis
Speaker 4: of religion, you know, you think about the afterlife and
Speaker 4: all that, and I'm like, well, if there is no afterlife,
Speaker 4: you're not going to know it because you're going to
Speaker 4: be dead.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm curious, since we've started pulling this thread,
Speaker 1: do you ever just for like curiosity's sake or just
Speaker 1: for you know, your own, whatever your purpose is, I
Speaker 1: guess it doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Do you ever experiment with any sort of like meditation
Speaker 1: or any of those kinds of practices to explore these
Speaker 1: kinds of things or is it more or less like
Speaker 1: a belief that's just kind of there and it subtly
Speaker 1: drives you, but you don't think about it too much.
Speaker 4: I've tried meditating. The closest I've come to being totally
Speaker 4: satisfied with the experience is using like an oculus, a
Speaker 4: metaquest with different meditation type apps that has the soothing
Speaker 4: voice and you're looking around and you're seeing the stars
Speaker 4: or the desert, and you can pick the landscape that
Speaker 4: it's on, and the breathing exercises with geometric shapes expanding
Speaker 4: and compressing that I'm find that easier visually to kind
Speaker 4: of get into because my brain is all over the time.
Speaker 4: I'm probably like super adhd and like I can't relax
Speaker 4: enough to sit here, and because didn't think of nothing,
Speaker 4: it's like nothing all there's a million browsers always open, so.
Speaker 1: It's like Johan had to sit in one spot for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours to pull that z sword out of
Speaker 1: the rock. Come on, man, I know lock in as
Speaker 1: the kids say, yeah, as as us thirty year old
Speaker 1: nerds say, long in. You had to pull that sword
Speaker 1: out to get that mystic form. You had to sit now,
Speaker 1: actually I think it was twenty five hours.
Speaker 4: The hell of a reference.
Speaker 1: That was a hell of a reference.
Speaker 4: There'll be some un commenting to this and going, actually, yeah, epitude.
Speaker 1: You know what though, with what you just said, that
Speaker 1: was amazing. I'm glad that we got into this. We
Speaker 1: could talk more about this later if you'd like, but
Speaker 1: you probably would really enjoy what them Monrostitute has to offer.
Speaker 1: They have an amazing meditation appen Hmmm. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've heard of them or anything. We can totally
Speaker 1: dig more to that later. They're left this institute where
Speaker 1: they basically use sound technology to get you into very
Speaker 1: deep meditative states, very power, powerful stuff. Yeah, you might
Speaker 1: enjoy that.
Speaker 4: I see ads on TikTok for things about certain frequencies
Speaker 4: that kind of you know, your brain can can be
Speaker 4: open to that. And of course, you know, seeing stuff
Speaker 4: about paranormal or whatnot. It's like, oh, the history of
Speaker 4: sound sonic sort of waves and how they affect people
Speaker 4: in a way you can't really necessarily consciously.
Speaker 1: Do you know about cymatics much? Oh dude, this is
Speaker 1: so fascinating you mind if I geek out about this
Speaker 1: little bit, right? So, simatics is the concept that let's
Speaker 1: say you have a table, right, and you put sand
Speaker 1: on the table, or you have like a bowl and
Speaker 1: you put water in the bowl, and you have some
Speaker 1: sort of speaker or instrument that puts out sound waves,
Speaker 1: you know, and you blast those sound waves into the
Speaker 1: sand or the water. Same effect, it'll make shapes. It'll
Speaker 1: make geometric shapes, a beautiful.
Speaker 3: Symmetrical geometric shapes.
Speaker 1: So the idea is that there is an intelligence obviously
Speaker 1: an everything. If we're talking about consciousness, Yeah, but there's
Speaker 1: there's an intelligence and everything, even the sound. A lot
Speaker 1: of old myth belief systems claim that the world was
Speaker 1: created by sound. The Hindus say Ohm Brahma spoke the
Speaker 1: world into existence through ohm, right, or even in the
Speaker 1: Bible it says first there was the word. There's this
Speaker 1: concept of many of these different traditions, but we can
Speaker 1: prove with science that when you play these sounds, there
Speaker 1: are certain geometrical shapes that appear in the sand in
Speaker 1: the water. So it stands to reason that when we're
Speaker 1: hearing certain frequencies, even though we might not be able
Speaker 1: to see it because there's not sand or water present,
Speaker 1: there's certain shapes that it's blasting into our mind that's
Speaker 1: affecting our psyche, that's affecting our brain waves and our
Speaker 1: neurons and our synapses, which you know, in practice can
Speaker 1: get us into altered states. And I can tell you
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 2: It's really yeah.
Speaker 4: I have heard of something with more succinct physical side effects,
Speaker 4: like people in England, for example, trying to disperse a
Speaker 4: crowd and using sonic things that only certain frequencies that
Speaker 4: only maybe younger people can can hear. You know, as
Speaker 4: the older you get, you you lose the high end
Speaker 4: right now, and they're blasting something that that they're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's like and everyone else is like
Speaker 4: what what what's going on? And just like it's like
Speaker 4: disperse the crowd, like you don't need dear gas, just
Speaker 4: just sonic.
Speaker 1: That's true. No, they use that kind of stuff in warfare.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I just saw like today or yesterday that this this
Speaker 3: like this student in London has invented this sound cannon
Speaker 3: and they can put out.
Speaker 2: Like grease fires and electrical fires.
Speaker 3: And like with sound, Like it's like a sound gun.
Speaker 2: They just like walk up.
Speaker 3: It's this big like barrel and it has a trigger
Speaker 3: and they just walk up and it goes like and
Speaker 3: then instantly the fire is out. It's really strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a potential new world coming where
Speaker 1: we will utilize sound more for these kinds of things,
Speaker 1: for states of consciousness, for medical purposes. I know that
Speaker 1: there's some research being done on the soul veggio frequencies
Speaker 1: and how they can like lower heart rate, states of anxiety,
Speaker 1: reduced cortisol, have physiological responses, stuff like that. But seriously,
Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy looking into them in ro Institute.
Speaker 1: The whole purpose behind them is like they're the premiere
Speaker 1: institute for the study of consciousness. But they you know,
Speaker 1: binoral beats.
Speaker 4: I've heard of that. Yes.
Speaker 1: Binoral beats are the concept of playing a tone in
Speaker 1: one ear and a tone in another ear, and they're
Speaker 1: slightly different frequencies, but the difference between them tricks the
Speaker 1: brain into thinking it's one tone because the human ear
Speaker 1: can't hear beneath twenty hurts. So, but if you want
Speaker 1: to get the brain to delta or theta, which is
Speaker 1: like anywhere from like eight hurts below, which is like
Speaker 1: sleep but really deeply meditative states of consciousness, you make
Speaker 1: viral beats. So you could have a tone of like
Speaker 1: one hundred herts and one hundred four herts, and the
Speaker 1: wabble between these waves will synchronize in the corpus calism
Speaker 1: of the brain, these two hemispheres of the ligne. And
Speaker 1: next thing you know, it thinks you're listening to four herts,
Speaker 1: which is a meditative state, and the Monroe's two is
Speaker 1: all about that. It's all about the idea of using
Speaker 1: these sounds to meditate very deep stuff.
Speaker 4: It also sounds like they're on the cusp of solving
Speaker 4: tonightis I have to sleep with a white noise app
Speaker 4: because yeah, is deafening.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, I hate this sound.
Speaker 4: Like okay, well now I can't hear it.
Speaker 3: That must have come around with all of the screaming
Speaker 3: while powering up to super Saiyan, Right.
Speaker 4: Dude, this goes back to going to concerts in nineteen
Speaker 4: years without ear plugs, cranking up the music as a DJ,
Speaker 4: especially when I was on a hard rock metal station before.
Speaker 3: What what bands are we listening to? Come on, we're
Speaker 3: metal heads?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was hoping we would go here, Come on,
Speaker 4: what bands there? Golly. In the eighties, I remember someone
Speaker 4: on the drum line in Marching School goes. He comes
Speaker 4: up with kill them All. He says, you got to
Speaker 4: hear this record, man, and it's like, yeah, I have
Speaker 4: been a Metallica fan ever since then. I was all
Speaker 4: into Iron Maiden, Judas Priest. In the seventies. As a kid,
Speaker 4: I was all about kiss Oh, I love the Queen,
Speaker 4: and I loved Aerosmith and Rush, went through all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and then I just started going towards the harder stuff.
Speaker 4: And I love Devin Townsend, who's all over the place.
Speaker 2: You know, I love him.
Speaker 1: Why do I know this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Bobby's really into him. He put us onto him.
Speaker 2: He is He's like an alien.
Speaker 4: He is like, Yeah, he's like a musical genius, a prodigy. Yes,
Speaker 4: he can write a country song one minute and then
Speaker 4: write the most crazy prog rock and the most screamy
Speaker 4: metal thing and all within the same album. Yes, he
Speaker 4: had a band in the nineties called strapping Young Lad. Yes,
Speaker 4: and that was an angry phase for him, but it's
Speaker 4: like that's what people tend to gravitate towards. But his
Speaker 4: solo stuff is all over the all over the map,
Speaker 4: and it's it's fascinating, it's really cool. It's not always metal.
Speaker 3: But and then oh my gosh, he'll stand up there
Speaker 3: and be playing the guitar and these really fast chugging
Speaker 3: patterns while singing operatically.
Speaker 2: And he is like not human, like yeah, so awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Devin is one of those rare prodigies,
Speaker 4: just like Trent what Trenton Reznor is to electronica and
Speaker 4: Jack White is to blues rock, blues, punky sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: I love all that. But I thanks to TikTok, I've
Speaker 4: recently gotten into Lorna Shore on a deathcore. The new
Speaker 4: single just dropped yesterday and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, wait, wait wait wait, there's a new one,
Speaker 1: a new new one.
Speaker 4: New new one.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oblivion is no it is, Oh no, I haven't
Speaker 1: heard it.
Speaker 4: There's another one.
Speaker 2: It is crushingly brutal.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm learning this from my friend, my fellow metal confidence.
Speaker 1: Isn't it wild.
Speaker 4: Unbreakable, Unbreakable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hadn't heard that yet. You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I was just listening to I had to take my
Speaker 1: car to the dealership yesterday and I was listening to
Speaker 1: Oblivion on the way to the dealership. And I have
Speaker 1: to admit I didn't listen to Lorna Shore for like
Speaker 1: three years because one of my close buddies who you
Speaker 1: know now he used to be with them, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, you know, I felt bad, kind
Speaker 1: of like oh, but now I'm like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's music. Like I listened to it again.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 1: Back to listening to it again.
Speaker 2: It's so good. Kyle.
Speaker 3: You ever you ever think about making some crazy sounds.
Speaker 2: Like that with your vocal cords?
Speaker 1: What a question?
Speaker 3: Oh man.
Speaker 4: I'm of the mind that all these metal singers they
Speaker 4: know the tricks to not hurt their voice and can
Speaker 4: sound like Satan and do it for hours on him.
Speaker 4: They need to be doing what Mike Patten was doing
Speaker 4: in the nineties or The Darkness, the video game for Xbox.
Speaker 4: He was like, all these different demon voices, crazy sounding stuff. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: metal vocalists need to get into the doing monster voices.
Speaker 4: There are people like Frank Welker and a friend of mine,
Speaker 4: Kellen Goff, who does monster creature sounds. D Bradley Baker,
Speaker 4: another longtime veteran of cartoon voices but also creature sounds.
Speaker 4: You know, you go on his website. He's got voice
Speaker 4: demos for crickets, pigs, birds all over the place.
Speaker 1: I'd love to have a credit for a cricket.
Speaker 4: There's someone that did a cricket on Mulan, that cricket
Speaker 4: that made Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Was probably the most famous cricket ever. Yeah, why doesn't
Speaker 3: the vocalist what's it, Will Ramos? Why doesn't he?
Speaker 2: He needs to be doing some like Alien Predator type
Speaker 2: voice acting stuff.
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Well, dude, this kind of music is getting more popular
Speaker 1: in games now, like video games.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think there's a shift culturally happening, and coincidentally,
Speaker 1: you happen to be aligned with both of these things.
Speaker 1: I think anime is becoming like some of the peak
Speaker 1: media in culture. I mean, especially when Gear five came
Speaker 1: out with Loofy. I think that was a major shift
Speaker 1: in the anime world to where now it's just like
Speaker 1: ubiquitous it's everywhere. I remember it was kind of like
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed to talk about anime in high school.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember that you didn't really bring it up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd still. I mean it was the same thing
Speaker 3: with superheroes, right, like as kids, you're super into comic
Speaker 3: books and superheroes. Now all of a sudden, everyone is
Speaker 3: going to see the Marvel movies. Everyone is going to
Speaker 3: see the Marvel movies. And I'm like, it's that that
Speaker 3: bullied me in middle school are now going.
Speaker 2: To like, oh my god, you see the new Marvel movie.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what spider Man?
Speaker 1: You see the new Marvel? And then the next the
Speaker 1: other shift is metal. I think that probably started with well,
Speaker 1: a number of things, but really.
Speaker 4: What was that?
Speaker 1: Is it Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon? Who is it
Speaker 1: that had knocked.
Speaker 2: Loose on Jimmy kim Yeah?
Speaker 1: And plus Goodyear was at the Olympics.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and now love right?
Speaker 1: And then what are they called sleep Token?
Speaker 4: They're huge?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like boxes huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sleep Token was like what top ten on
Speaker 1: the charts or something. I feel like metal is like
Speaker 1: kind of anime to me. Metal is like anime of
Speaker 1: the music world. I feel like they're a similar you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just like parallel. They're sort of niche,
Speaker 1: but also.
Speaker 4: Like not really anymore, don't It's cool to see these
Speaker 4: mashup of genres, Like the creativity is just off the charts.
Speaker 4: If you if you go to see Metallica on their
Speaker 4: stadium tour, it's mostly fifty year olds, like I'm fifty six.
Speaker 4: It's mostly dads and their kids and whatnot. But me,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be at the Laura Shore show.
Speaker 4: I'll be at the Chelsea Grin show next time they
Speaker 4: come around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to he he will, You will have
Speaker 1: a great time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a buddy named Ricky who is one of
Speaker 1: the guitarists of Ice nine Kills, and he's playing with
Speaker 1: Metallica tomorrow night. Whoa, Yeah I have not met Metallica.
Speaker 2: Yeah yet, yeah yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sick, Yes, dude, I could talk medal with
Speaker 1: you all day?
Speaker 4: Do we?
Speaker 1: How are we doing on time? You got to be
Speaker 1: out of here in an hour, so maybe we could
Speaker 1: wind down with a few more things. So what's I know?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 1: Lorna Shore is your your favorite, and what a worthy favorite.
Speaker 1: But you got any other that are kind of like
Speaker 1: proximity favorites, you know, know.
Speaker 4: Like well, like I said, Chelsea Grin is right up there,
Speaker 4: I'm all over the spectrum. Let me, i have to
Speaker 4: look at my Apple Music.
Speaker 2: I gotta do the same thing.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you might be into some kind of
Speaker 3: proggy stuff too, though, I mean with the Devin Towns Townsend,
Speaker 3: oh yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about like periphery, periphery.
Speaker 4: I don't have to listen to a little more intently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're They're They're awesome. I love periphery. I
Speaker 3: like proggy stuff too. But I mean, honestly, if they're
Speaker 3: screaming in it and it's metal, I'm probably into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not just there. I'm also a
Speaker 4: huge Queens of the Stone Age fan.
Speaker 2: I think they're just a great rock band.
Speaker 4: You know, they put on an incredible show. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Shadows of Intent, Rivers of.
Speaker 1: Neil love Shadow of Intent. They have some new songs
Speaker 1: coming out lately.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rivers of Neil's new album is is.
Speaker 1: I don't know them.
Speaker 3: Rivers of It's like Nile like and I Nile is
Speaker 3: like Death court type stuff. Oh yeah, Oh dude, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna look them up right now.
Speaker 4: There's occasionally a saxophone in there. Dude.
Speaker 1: Why have I never heard of this?
Speaker 3: They're really good.
Speaker 1: Oh god, they have new music too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I h I l rivers of on their cover. Yep, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you for that. Absolutely, they keep that tonight.
Speaker 2: They make great stuff. They're they're awesome. One of my
Speaker 2: coworkers put me onto them.
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, dude, that's exciting, So keep going, keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 4: If you like weird psychedelic metal, like black metal Aronzi Pazuzu.
Speaker 2: I'm putting it in my phone right now.
Speaker 1: That sounds uh dal A, Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, Larcenia Row I think I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're kind of like blowing up right now, aren't they.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of our you know, Slaughter Prevail. Oh yeah, Orbit Culture.
Speaker 4: That's a huge one for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, Culture, I'm putting it on my phone.
Speaker 1: You have made it to the final level of metal.
Speaker 1: You're at the you're at the peak, like you have
Speaker 1: that same itch in your brain where it's like I
Speaker 1: just needed to be really heavy. Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 4: You know, and with good production, not not muddy production.
Speaker 4: The metal of the seventies and eighties was just just unlistenable.
Speaker 4: But now with the production and the sonic layering you
Speaker 4: can do and everything is so much more palpable and
Speaker 4: it feels good to just crank it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is so true.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that, but that maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I like Death Course so much, because it does tend
Speaker 1: to have very high production as opposed to yeah.
Speaker 2: Excellent production value.
Speaker 3: And also they do these effects that it's like similar
Speaker 3: to like movie effects, like the sound effects that it's
Speaker 3: all these like big slams and these big epic sound effects,
Speaker 3: and like it feels like listening to the score of
Speaker 3: a movie or something like the epic level is on twelve.
Speaker 3: You know. That's my favorite part about Death Core, of
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things about it. I don't know
Speaker 3: if this was like before your time or after your
Speaker 3: time or whatever. I guess after your time would make
Speaker 3: more sense. But did you ever hear like Memphis Mayfire?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe this was before you were into the like
Speaker 1: death Court type stuff and it's not death Cord, but
Speaker 1: woe is me? You ever heard of them?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, we have a buddy Cameron who's been on
Speaker 1: the show and he's like a producer used to be
Speaker 1: well I guess he still works with him Rise Records
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of their like iconic hits
Speaker 1: from back in the day. So that was kind of
Speaker 1: cool getting to do an episode with him. But it's
Speaker 1: not quite heavy like the Death Course stuff. It's got
Speaker 1: a lot of sing songy kind of stuff, but it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like heavy stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sugar, Sugar, Now you're talking about language, Kyle, That's
Speaker 3: like the top three for me.
Speaker 2: I love my Sugar so much.
Speaker 1: Ya is having a resurgence.
Speaker 2: They've never gone anywhere, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like in the last year especially, I have
Speaker 1: seen so many countless videos about what does it bleed
Speaker 1: from the sugar?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the top song?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: They are fantastic because they blend this like ultimate heaviness
Speaker 3: with like the complexity of like prog type rhythmic rhythmic
Speaker 3: type stuff like weird time signatures and wild like.
Speaker 4: I call it math metal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: You're doing math while you're listening to It's.
Speaker 4: Like where's the beat? Oh, this is on the upbeat?
Speaker 4: This is on the downbeat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play drums.
Speaker 4: I do, Actually I haven't. Yeah, I haven't actually played
Speaker 4: them on a regular basis since I was in my
Speaker 4: teen's early twenties, but living in an apartment for much
Speaker 4: of my adult life, you can't really do that without
Speaker 4: getting kicked out. So I now have an electronic kit,
Speaker 4: so I just put the headphones on and crank at that.
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm so envious of people who can
Speaker 4: do the double kick thing. It always seemed like, how
Speaker 4: do people do that without their feet tiring out?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I.
Speaker 1: Wish we I would love to show you.
Speaker 4: I wish. Yeah, it's all in the placement of your
Speaker 4: heels and your toes. It's not the whole foot that's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's right. It's the placement of your heels
Speaker 1: and your toes. Yeah, a little bit of calves too,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know you played drums.
Speaker 1: And did you have a chance to check out our
Speaker 1: band that I sent you the other day? I know
Speaker 1: you've been traveling, but I have.
Speaker 4: Been traveling, so I need to I think you'll like
Speaker 4: it to do that again. What was the name of
Speaker 4: the band? Twice born twice born.
Speaker 1: I'll re send it to you and then we'll do
Speaker 1: an update. Kyle didn't like.
Speaker 4: It, Yes, answering twice born right now.
Speaker 1: I have to send it to you because it has
Speaker 1: a weird symbol. We didn't have the foresight to think
Speaker 1: it would be hard to search. Oh, I'll text it
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, it's not. It's not all death. We
Speaker 1: didn't want it to be so heavy that like general
Speaker 1: audiences couldn't like it. But we have a couple of
Speaker 1: songs that are like really heavy because I wanted to
Speaker 1: scratch that itch. Nick wanted to scratch that itch. So
Speaker 1: we dabble sometimes and then some other songs are not
Speaker 1: as heavy, but it's like a blend. I love you'll see.
Speaker 1: I think you'll like it.
Speaker 4: Is Rights of Wrongs your album.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll send it Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: Wow. I have loved talking Dragon Maaz with you and
Speaker 1: anime and the paranormal, the supernatural and metal. What a
Speaker 1: nice little end cap. There Something I like to ask guests?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: If you could imagine that everybody in the world was
Speaker 1: listening right now now, I'm not forgetting the fact that
Speaker 1: you are starring in multiple franchises worth billions of dollars
Speaker 1: and actually probably have been heard by billions of people
Speaker 1: in your lifetime. But let's just put that to the
Speaker 1: side for a moment and say, for this right now,
Speaker 1: if you could imagine that everybody in the world was
Speaker 1: going to hear what you were about to say, what's
Speaker 1: the one message that you feel like you would want
Speaker 1: to leave with people before you go.
Speaker 4: What just popped into my head was it's easy to
Speaker 4: be kind. It's easier to be kind than getting all
Speaker 4: stressed out and angry. And everyone is so angry in
Speaker 4: the world, and it's like, think how good you feel
Speaker 4: just saying, hey, how's it going having a good day?
Speaker 4: Rock and roll? And if someone's having a bad day,
Speaker 4: that's their baggage. But everyone has baggage, so we need
Speaker 4: to be respectful of all that. But I think the
Speaker 4: power of a smile, the power of kindness. If it
Speaker 4: if it's not kind or honest or whatnot, it's not
Speaker 4: worth saying. And you know, maybe people through the process
Speaker 4: of meditation or having an open mind can help help
Speaker 4: your consciousness achieve a better state of purity and balance
Speaker 4: and and things like that. That's what's kind of coming
Speaker 4: to my mind. As I think stream of consciousness.
Speaker 3: Right now, Well said that is beautiful, you know, Roll
Speaker 3: Well said rock and Roll.
Speaker 1: I closed my eyes for the bulk of that, and
Speaker 1: a smile came to my face as I just imagined
Speaker 1: super saying go on in a do rag and the
Speaker 1: great sale a man fit telling that message to me
Speaker 1: to the world, die in peace.
Speaker 4: Remember, remember Ryan, be kind. It's easy to do.
Speaker 1: I do have a favor to ask you. I have
Speaker 1: been planning to jump you with this for like a month,
Speaker 1: knowing that we scheduled this. Okay, could you give me
Speaker 1: like a next time on? Bledsoe said so in the
Speaker 1: Dragon ball Z narrator voice.
Speaker 4: Next time on? Bledsoe said so, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, did you know he was a narrator?
Speaker 2: Yes, But that's that's the craziest thing ever, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Bless you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being gracious in giving with your talent.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Thank you, Ed, Thank you for being.
Speaker 1: Open with your time and working with us on that.
Speaker 1: We truly appreciate this. I think this is as of now,
Speaker 1: like this is definitely the most grateful I've been to
Speaker 1: do an episode on our show. This is in the
Speaker 1: realm of like, you know, achieving our dream. Just you
Speaker 1: coming on here and doing this with us is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: When we first started the show, I was getting a
Speaker 1: little emotional. I'm like, suck it in, suck you're working here.
Speaker 4: You're working here.
Speaker 1: So I had to kind of push through that. But
Speaker 1: thanks for working with a couple of dorks like us
Speaker 1: on scheduling this and getting it going. You've been very
Speaker 1: gracious with all this. So just you're amazing man.
Speaker 4: My pleasure, no, no, thank you man. I'm lucky that
Speaker 4: I get to make a living doing something I love,
Speaker 4: and I couldn't do it without the support of awesome
Speaker 4: fans around the world like yourselves and people of like
Speaker 4: minds and like musical taste and everything.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, thank you a lot in common. This is
Speaker 4: this is cool, So thank you for the opportunity to
Speaker 4: speak with you and cover these topics that I don't
Speaker 4: normally get to necessarily on other podcasts. So this is great.
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Speaker 1: do have a silly little way that we end our
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