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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's almost here. We're almost a game day.

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<v Speaker 2>We visited with Colonie Satake on Monday, and today it's

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<v Speaker 2>our pleasure to bring in the head coach at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Utah. You know him, you love them, coach

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<v Speaker 2>with coach. How are you So we're almost the game time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's getting close. And you know, finally, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three plus years later, it's here.

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<v Speaker 2>So away we go, certainly, and this is a week

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<v Speaker 2>that I always really enjoy, but it's a week that

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<v Speaker 2>some people do not enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings a lot of anxiety, It brings a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been a part of this thing for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day on the other side, and now

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<v Speaker 2>for basically two plus decades you've been coaching up here.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of energy it kind of permeates through you?

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<v Speaker 1>Starting on?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, really and you guys had a bye week,

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<v Speaker 2>But when it's actually rivalry week, when you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>b YU week Monday morning, what sort of energy does

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<v Speaker 2>that bring in your life?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it certainly gets your attention. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>rivalry has been on and off for the last several years,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now that we're in the same difference. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a regular thing as long as we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the same conference. Who knows when that will change again.

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<v Speaker 3>But it brings a lot of energy into the building

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<v Speaker 3>our players, even though we only have nine guys that

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<v Speaker 3>have participated in this game off one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five man roster, which was shocking to me when we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about that in a team meeting last week. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're in, you know, in doctrinating. I guess the word

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<v Speaker 3>our guys, the guys that haven't been through it as

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<v Speaker 3>to the intensity of it and what to expect. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course we got a lot of in state guys

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<v Speaker 3>on the roster that have not played in it, but

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<v Speaker 3>are very aware of the rivalry just because of being

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<v Speaker 3>in the state of Utah. But we're juiced up, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what rivalry games are all about, getting excited and

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<v Speaker 3>playing with a lot of passion and emotion. And you

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<v Speaker 3>can feel it in our building for certain.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a numbers guy and I like to dig

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<v Speaker 2>into the metrics. Nine of one to twenty five, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very low number.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to follow up because we've had a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of guests on this week that played it University of

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<v Speaker 2>Utah and played at BYU, some out of state, some

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<v Speaker 2>in state.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you grew up here, and if you were

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<v Speaker 1>part of the rivalry, I mean, my parents want to

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<v Speaker 1>bringing me on. I went to Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been covering the game now for basically twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>from the side, so I know what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get that message across coach to these

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<v Speaker 2>players that aren't as familiar as to just how important

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, we had a little history lesson

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<v Speaker 3>of sorts where I went through the history of the

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<v Speaker 3>rivalry and the origin and how it's gone back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth through the years and some of the more colorful

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<v Speaker 3>quotes that have come out of the rivalry over the

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<v Speaker 3>last fifteen twenty years. And it's you know, our guys

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<v Speaker 3>as they've gone through the week and last week as

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<v Speaker 3>well and become more familiar with it and read about it,

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<v Speaker 3>they started to get it, like I said, and it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one thing about this week for certain is

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<v Speaker 3>it's not hard to get your team ready to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that takes care of itself. You know, some

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<v Speaker 3>week are more difficult than others as far as what

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<v Speaker 3>buttons you need to push and that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can count on this week and this game

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<v Speaker 3>being no need for that. It happens on its own accord.

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<v Speaker 2>So ultimately, as you know as well, if not better

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody, Saturday Night is a chance for your guys

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<v Speaker 2>to show the community for one game, and that's all

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<v Speaker 2>that matters. You have to take this stuff that way,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, for one game, in one moment, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can be great, you're remembered in this community when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to this game. And you know, ultimately, Coach,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, all of us expected you guys to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a different place. You expected you guys to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a different place. It's been a tough year.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff is hard. Winning is hard. Consistency is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>As Jerry West said back in the day, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between mediocrity and greatness is consistent performance.

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<v Speaker 1>But what have you shared with your players about what.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night could mean as far as the legacy they

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<v Speaker 2>leave behind, Because we talk about players that have incredible

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<v Speaker 2>performances in this game for decades and decade and decades

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<v Speaker 2>to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, exactly that that this game is one that

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<v Speaker 3>they'll remember the rest of their lives, in particular the seniors.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I can remember my senior year in the

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<v Speaker 3>Rivalry game like it was just yesterday. And and so

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<v Speaker 3>that's the first thing is is, uh, it will it

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<v Speaker 3>will stick with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Secondly, you know a lot of years the current record

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, the state of the program or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is tossed out the window in the Rivalry game. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>can happen in this game. And you're right, there's been

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<v Speaker 3>guys go down and in history in this rivalry by

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<v Speaker 3>by their performances and plays they made, and and it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is remembered for for ages and ages. And

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<v Speaker 3>so our guys are, like I said, they're excited and

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<v Speaker 3>they know it's a chance to put a turnaround on

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<v Speaker 3>this skid we're on right now. You know, we've had

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<v Speaker 3>a tough four game stretch that that we've been able

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<v Speaker 3>to uh, you know, continue to battle and fight. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, we're losing by slim margins and just

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<v Speaker 3>finding ways to not get quite enough plays made to

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<v Speaker 3>get to win. But this is a chance for us

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<v Speaker 3>to really hopefully get things turned around in a positive

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<v Speaker 3>direction for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So the most reductive thing. And it's really even accurate

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<v Speaker 2>that I could say about why I perceived that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are on the spot that you're at is Cameron

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<v Speaker 2>is not under center and he's been hurt. You can

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<v Speaker 2>be that reductive coach, like you haven't had your quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>period out of story. So but between that reductive statement

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<v Speaker 2>and where you're at it four and four, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you analyze why the season is not gone the way

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<v Speaker 2>we all thought it was going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we haven't been productive enough on offense, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where you can really pinpoint things. I mean, our defense

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<v Speaker 3>is leading the league in total defense and first or

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<v Speaker 3>second scoring defense and doing some really good things and

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<v Speaker 3>doing some very consistent things on that side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>But the quarterback position and its importance cannot be overstated.

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<v Speaker 3>It just can't be. It's the most important position in

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<v Speaker 3>any team sport, hands down, and has so much to

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<v Speaker 3>do with with your success or lack thereof. And Cam

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<v Speaker 3>Rising is an elite quarterback and and have not having

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<v Speaker 3>him in the lineup is something that obviously we hope

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't happen. I mean, we dealt with it last year

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<v Speaker 3>and we were hoping that they wouldn't repeat itself. But

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<v Speaker 3>and the plan was for Isaac to be Cam's understudy

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<v Speaker 3>and get reps here and there during the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the season and you know, get gain as much experience

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<v Speaker 3>as he could getting ready for spring ball next year

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<v Speaker 3>to be the guy. But here it is. He's played

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred snaps for US and we're only two thirds

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<v Speaker 3>of the way through the season. And his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a true freshman. You know, true freshmen typically have

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<v Speaker 3>there's an adjustment period to the speed and the complexity

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<v Speaker 3>of the college game. And and uh, it's just been

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, a tough go trying to get things

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<v Speaker 3>generated on an offense, and particularly the throw game. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where we really not have been. We have not been

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<v Speaker 3>able to be efficient or productive in that regard and

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<v Speaker 3>that has really hampered the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>You referenced in your media availability earlier this week that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys feel good about the plan under center. I

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<v Speaker 2>will not ask you who the starter is because I

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<v Speaker 2>know what that would do. I do not want to

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<v Speaker 2>get on your bad side, So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you who the starter is, but I will ask

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<v Speaker 2>you update our listeners as the home of the Utes

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<v Speaker 2>on how that plan is playing out throughout this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we think it's played out well, and we think

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<v Speaker 3>that it gives us our best chance to win in

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<v Speaker 3>this particular game. Not necessarily indicative of the future and

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<v Speaker 3>what will you know, potentially take place there. But but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I want to make that perfectly clear. But

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<v Speaker 3>as coaches, what you do from week to week is

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<v Speaker 3>put a plan together and get the players on the

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<v Speaker 3>field that you feel give you the best chance to

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<v Speaker 3>win in that particular game. And and so that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we've done. And and uh, you know, we'll find out

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<v Speaker 3>very soon if you know, if it was if we

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<v Speaker 3>were correct in our in our planning.

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<v Speaker 2>So as a reference, we had Klani on on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we try to do our best to

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<v Speaker 2>cover both schools. Obviously, as the home of the youths,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to make sure we service our good partners.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I continue to say, Kyle is whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>Kilani who obviously coached under you for years, Aaron Rodgerck,

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Hill, Utah Grad.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like they have utilized what they learned from

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<v Speaker 2>you and took it down there and they're actually using

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<v Speaker 2>your script to play very good complimentary football at eight.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what stands out most of you about these BYU Cougars.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, they're doing a great job with

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<v Speaker 3>their coaching and you know, whether it's new, whoever it's

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<v Speaker 3>due to, I don't know. They're just really good coaches

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<v Speaker 3>and we have a lot more than that on the staff. There.

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<v Speaker 3>It was four or five other guys out there that

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<v Speaker 3>in various positions, but they are playing exceptional complimentary football,

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<v Speaker 3>which is how we've made a living for years. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not really other than the turnover margin, that's really

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<v Speaker 3>where they're really excelling, and particularly taking them all away.

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<v Speaker 3>On defense, I'm pretty sure they're leading the conference and takeaways.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, offensively and defensively, they're just they're

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<v Speaker 3>both in the top third in the conference in most categories.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's not one real area you could point to

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<v Speaker 3>other than the turnover march and they say, hey, these

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<v Speaker 3>guys are just dominating in this particular area. They're just

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<v Speaker 3>doing very well in all areas and like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>playing off each other offensively and defensively as well as

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<v Speaker 3>you can possibly do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, they've outscored their opponents. Kyle sixty nine to

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<v Speaker 2>ten off turnovers this year. It leads the country. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an insane stat, but it also is It also indicates

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be some sort of regression of the mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like, because of the nature of this

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<v Speaker 2>game coming up, you can never predict how this is

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<v Speaker 1>The line's pretty close.

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<v Speaker 2>So before I set you loose, I've heard you say

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<v Speaker 2>in the past your favorite Utah BYU game three zero,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was there. It feels like that is a

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<v Speaker 2>coach with Utah BYU game. What's giving you the most

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<v Speaker 2>confidence about coming out on the right side coming up

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say the attitude and the mindset of our

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<v Speaker 3>players and the preparations that's always so critical. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't just show up on game day and magically

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<v Speaker 3>flip a switch and play hard and play effective. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta have prepared the right way, and that is something

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<v Speaker 3>that our guys have done all season long. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's been so frustrating is there's been no drop off

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<v Speaker 3>in our practice, prep, in our intensity and our passion.

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<v Speaker 3>We just can't get over that hub. And so we're

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<v Speaker 3>just hoping that this is the week that all that

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<v Speaker 3>hard work and focus pays off and our players get

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<v Speaker 3>rewarded because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for your time, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're busy, and I know how hard this

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<v Speaker 2>season has been on everybody, so I'm pulling for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Best of luck coming up Saturday night, and thanks again, coach.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Okay, Spence, appreciate you having me on. Thank you,