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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to start taking

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the Bill Clinton transcript from his visit

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<v Speaker 1>to Congress. Now, previously I only had access to the video,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we have the transcript, so we're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to jump right in after he was sworn in, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's an exchange between Cheryl Mills and the Committee. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to start. Cheryl Mills, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>comment before we begin, Please, mister Chairman. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start out by saying, as you know, yesterday there was

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<v Speaker 1>a photo released, and I appreciate you assuring and admonishing

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<v Speaker 1>to the Committee and all of us of your obligations. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make sure that doesn't happen again. We've

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<v Speaker 1>obviously experienced a number of deep fakes that have now

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<v Speaker 1>been circulating on the web, not because of anything that

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee did, but because of the release of this

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<v Speaker 1>particular photograph. And for that reason I would ask two things.

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<v Speaker 1>One a reminder to all that the obligation to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>what is occurring in this room occurs, and to a

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<v Speaker 1>release of the video of the Secretary's testimony as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, ideally today, which was in twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same for the presidents, so that there are

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<v Speaker 1>not deep fakes that are representing what's happening here when

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<v Speaker 1>they actually have not. James Comer, Yeah, and let me

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<v Speaker 1>say yesterday that was an unfortunate situation, Cheryl Mills, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Comer. We had probably two things that should

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<v Speaker 1>have shouldn't have happened, the release of the photo as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a Democrat member communicating with the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will again remind everyone to refrain from sending

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<v Speaker 1>pictures or texting with media outlets outside. Melvin is our

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<v Speaker 1>videographer and he's doing this today as well as producing

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<v Speaker 1>the video, so we'll get them out hopefully as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, hopefully within the next twenty four hours. Cheryl Mills,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, Chairman. I appreciate that nothing more.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Emmer, who is the investigator for James Comer, mister President,

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<v Speaker 1>do you wish to provide an opening statement? Bill Clinton?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. It's brief. First of all, good morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to all of you to our hometown. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you coming here. I'm here today basically for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I love my country and the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe America was built on the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>no one is above the law, especially presidents, and that

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<v Speaker 1>we should all live by the same set of rules

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<v Speaker 1>shaped with the Constitution. Democracy requires every person to play

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<v Speaker 1>their part, and I hope by being here today, we

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<v Speaker 1>can bring ourselves a little further away from the brink

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<v Speaker 1>and back to being a country where we can disagree

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<v Speaker 1>civilly and search for the truth and justice. And if

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<v Speaker 1>that outweighs the partisan urge, spectacle and point scoring, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do my part, and I hope that you'll do yours.

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<v Speaker 1>The second reason I'm here is that the girls and

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<v Speaker 1>women who's lives Jeffrey Epstein destroyed deserved not just justice

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<v Speaker 1>but healing. They've been waiting too long for both. Through

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<v Speaker 1>my brief acquaintance with Jeffrey Epstein, though it ended years

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<v Speaker 1>before his crimes came to light, and though I never

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed during our limited interactions any indication of what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, I'm here to offer what little I know

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<v Speaker 1>so I can do my part to prevent something like

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<v Speaker 1>this from happening again. I have to say one personal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>since Hillary came in yesterday. She had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing. There's a picture of us both

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<v Speaker 1>shaking hands with them in a photo line. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, had a fundraiser for the White House Historical Association.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it is under President Trump, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I was there, it was about the most non

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<v Speaker 1>political operation you can imagine. There were people who loved

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, who were interested in it, would give

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<v Speaker 1>a little money every year and do things that needed

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<v Speaker 1>doing around the house, and nothing nearly as extravagant as

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<v Speaker 1>the ballroom or any of that, just things that had

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<v Speaker 1>to be done. And neither she nor I remembered shaking

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<v Speaker 1>his hand at all those years ago, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that was right. On the other hand, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should be talking to me. I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>have called me. I did take those plane trips with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a right to ask those questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here, and I understand what the

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<v Speaker 1>oath is. I have to be honest with you. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be eighty years old if I lived on my next birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember everything that happened twenty four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do remember some things, and I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I remember as best I can. We each

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<v Speaker 1>of us are the victims nothing less than the truth

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<v Speaker 1>and accuracy. We owe that to the American people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I actually hope that you'll be able to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some suggestions that will reduce human trafficking and especially

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<v Speaker 1>focus on underage girls. I hope you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I know that Hillary talked a little yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about what the State Department does and what she pushed

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<v Speaker 1>on human trafficking in girls when she was Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to deal with it, and in my foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it in Nigeria with Boko Haram when they

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<v Speaker 1>were rampaging through the north of Nigeria and we were

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<v Speaker 1>working to trying to stop deaths from diarrhea or the

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<v Speaker 1>young children. And it was interesting. These guys were cold

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<v Speaker 1>and calculated. They said, Oh, you don't have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>because of the kids who are helping are younger than

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<v Speaker 1>the ones we want. They have to be about nine

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<v Speaker 1>before they're worth anything to us. So this is really

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<v Speaker 1>important and I'll do what I can to make whatever

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<v Speaker 1>contribution I can. Thank you, Jack Emmer, Thank you. The

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<v Speaker 1>Time Reads eleven twenty eight. The Majority's time will begin now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister President, thank you for agreeing to testify today and

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<v Speaker 1>for your years of service to our country. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start from the beginning. When did you first meet

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein? Answer? Well, I try in this testimony, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll point it out when I'm aware. There's a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of something that predates this. There's a picture where it

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<v Speaker 1>shows him shaking hands in the White House Historical Association

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<v Speaker 1>reception that was ninety three, but I'm not aware of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I first remember meeting them when I got on his

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<v Speaker 1>airplane to take the first trip with my foundation, I

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<v Speaker 1>think two thousand and two. Whenever it was question and

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, do you have any reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that you have met mister Epstein prior to becoming President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States? Answer? Before I became president, No question.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned that your first memory of interacting with

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<v Speaker 1>mister Epstein was on your first trip. Which trip specifically? Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure which one it was. Which one was

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<v Speaker 1>the first? I took all of our parts of five

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<v Speaker 1>or four trips to Asia and Africa and one to

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<v Speaker 1>North of Europe on mister Epstein's airplane, and once when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Florida. I was offered a ride back

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<v Speaker 1>to New York, but I wasn't there having and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just coincidental that he was there. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was fairly early in the process. I don't remember exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that I did. I took one flight

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<v Speaker 1>of several others, I think four or five trips to Africa, Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>and one to Northern Europe. Question by Jack Emmer. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure the record is clear. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>your testimony today that you have no independent recollection whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>of the circumstances of when you first met mister Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>David Kendall jumps in objection, asked an answered, you can

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<v Speaker 1>answer again, Bill Clinton. Yes, I do have a recollection

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<v Speaker 1>of when I remember meeting him before this trip. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean on this trip, when I took his plane. Question

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<v Speaker 1>mister President, We're going to discuss more specifics later, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, can you briefly describe the nature and

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<v Speaker 1>extent of your relationship with mister Epstein. Question? Well, sometime

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<v Speaker 1>after I left the White House, either in late two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one or early is two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>I received a call from Larry Summers, who had been

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<v Speaker 1>on my economic team and was later a Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasurer and was then President of Harbor. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said that he was calling because a man named Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein who had made a substantial commitment of several million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was ten, but whatever, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>brain research. And he was an information hungry person and

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to spend some time talking to me about

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<v Speaker 1>economics and politics. And he said he's got a massive airplane,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he would take you, your staff, your

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<v Speaker 1>secret service detail, and anybody else wanting to bring on

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<v Speaker 1>the trips that he knew. I was planning to set

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<v Speaker 1>up a global network to provide life saving aids medicine

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<v Speaker 1>to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I should back up and say when I left office,

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<v Speaker 1>we had done all the preliminary work to set up

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<v Speaker 1>the global funds on HTV malaria, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>yet funded. And there were other instruments and institutions who

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<v Speaker 1>were later founded, including President Bush Pepfar program, it had

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<v Speaker 1>not yet been funded. There were only two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people in the entire developing world who had AIDS medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them in Brazil, which had a big drug

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<v Speaker 1>operation on its own, and in Thailand, which also had

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<v Speaker 1>its own drug population. In Africa, there were like thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people or something just next to no people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were done like flies. And I thought we had

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to drastically drive the price down, and

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<v Speaker 1>that if we could drive the price down, can empower

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<v Speaker 1>people to administer the medicine right, which would save a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of lives. And I was obsessed with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was being helped by a man named Ira Magaziner,

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<v Speaker 1>who had helped us in the White House, in whom

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<v Speaker 1>I had known since we lived as Rhodes scholars together

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties. So anyway, that's why. And when Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Summer said, I thought, well, this would be great, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we followed up and we took the trips question,

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<v Speaker 1>mister President, when did your relationship with mister Epstein end? Answer? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>after a year or two, we really picked up ahead

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<v Speaker 1>other people who I note knew better and who really

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<v Speaker 1>cared about the work came forward and offered to help

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<v Speaker 1>us provide transportation and I thought that mister Epstein was

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting man. I didn't think he was really interested

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<v Speaker 1>in what I was doing. But as he asked all

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<v Speaker 1>these questions, he did ask about economics and politics as

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<v Speaker 1>he said he would, and he never asked me anything untoward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I didn't think. I thought I had done

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<v Speaker 1>what I had promised to do, and he had done

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<v Speaker 1>what he promised to do. I'd always over the years

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<v Speaker 1>these donors trying not to overstand my welcome. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that we'd done enough and then it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>start working with other people. When did you first learn

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes answer? I think in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight when he was prosecuted. There was nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>I saw when I was around him that made me

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<v Speaker 1>realize he was trafficking women. Question let's talk about Glaine Maxwell.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the first time that you met Glane Maxwell. Answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I first met her with him when she

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<v Speaker 1>was working with him. Question and when did you understand

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<v Speaker 1>miss Maxwell? What did you understand her relationship to be

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<v Speaker 1>with mister Epstein? Answer? I thought she was his chief

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<v Speaker 1>of staff or administrator. Question and you said that the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you met miss Maxwell with mister Epstein, is

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<v Speaker 1>that after you were president? Answer? Yeah, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I met her when I was president. I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I met a lot of people that I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but I definitely remember meeting her on that first flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Question and you briefly for the record described the nature

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<v Speaker 1>and extent of your relationship with miss Maxwell. Answer? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it lasted longer and was more extensive than my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with mister Epstein. Because Glenn Maxwell started going with a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Ted Waite who had made a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money making the first sort of self designed computers, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a big supporter of mine and the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Before he started seeing Glenn, we had been friends and

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<v Speaker 1>he was interested in particularly in reducing pollution in the oceans.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when she started going with him, I would

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<v Speaker 1>see her from time to time. Question and when did

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with miss Maxwell end? Answer? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her in a decade. It's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly when. Question why did your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with miss Maxwell end? Question? Well, at first she moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Boston. I think she had a relationship with a

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<v Speaker 1>man there, and I think they may have married, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she wasn't so much around and then when it

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<v Speaker 1>became after twenty nineteen, when it became obviously she was

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<v Speaker 1>involved too, to the extent that I did not know about.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the end of it. Question, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure the record is clear. You mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with Ms Maxwell was more extensive than that

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<v Speaker 1>of mister Epstein. Answer yes, it lasted longer. Yes. Question Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any recollection of what year it would

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<v Speaker 1>have ended? Answer? No, But when she was with Ted Waite,

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<v Speaker 1>she was when we were kicking off CGI. She was

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<v Speaker 1>very interested in that and she participated. But I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's been ten to twelve years since

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her, so I don't remember when the last

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<v Speaker 1>time was. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode right here, and in the next episode

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where

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<v Speaker 1>we left off. All the information that goes with this

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<v Speaker 1>episode can be found in the description box.