WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:03.759 All right, what is going on? It is drivetime on 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:06.639 a Monday afternoon, about twelve minutes past the hour of 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.480 two o'clock. Another beautiful day, man. Our fall weather has 4 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:12.960 been quite good. I know we need the moisture. I 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:14.880 don't want to hear at porter. It's nice right now. 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.839 I care about the environment. I alsill care about my 7 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:22.399 golf game. Both can be true. It's okay, beautiful weekend, 8 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:24.399 Happy Monday. I hope you had a great weekend and 9 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:26.320 are off to a great start to your work week. 10 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.960 And we are back at it for college football here locally, 11 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.280 it's game week for Utah. It's game week for BYU 12 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.520 kay Austin college football over the weekend, which, as we'll 13 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.240 talk about today, is actually good news for both Utah 14 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:44.320 and BYU for different reasons. I tell you why. Today 15 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:49.000 on the show, also the latest on the health of Yeah, yeah, yeah. 16 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.119 I know you're sick of it. I know you're tired 17 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.520 of it. But the latest on the health for Cam Rising, 18 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:57.119 who will be under center for Utah as we're back 19 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.200 at it coming up on Friday night against Ask You 20 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:07.280 and Fox Big Noon Kickoff, Urban Meyer, Matt liinerd Brady 21 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:12.599 quinn All who have complicated relationships with BYU fans will 22 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:16.840 be in provo coming up this Saturday. So Joe Klatt 23 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:19.439 Gus Johnson on the call. We're going to try to 24 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:21.280 get Gus on the show this week. Good friend of 25 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.719 the show, Gus Johnson. Known Gus for a long time. 26 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.719 He is excellent people and one of the best in 27 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:28.879 the business. So we'll try to get him on this 28 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:33.120 week to preview the weekend ahead in college football. Also 29 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.120 low key chaos in the NFL. Over the weekend. Your 30 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.719 pro football weekend will clumbin eight tonight with some Monday 31 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.840 Night football. We are your home of the NFL in 32 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:48.120 this market here on ESPN seven hundred, so you will 33 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.799 get some Monday night football tonight and then that's it. 34 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.799 Only one game tonight at Saints Chiefs from Arrowhead, Kansas City. 35 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.560 A five point five favor that over Runners forty three 36 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.760 point five, which feels low, but scoring is down in 37 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:02.519 the NFL unless you're a fan of the Ravens and 38 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.439 the Bengals. What a game that was. Get to some 39 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.920 NFL takeaways on the show today. It's a historic week 40 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.159 if you are a fan of sports in the state 41 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:15.560 of Utah. If you're part of the ecosystem of the 42 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.840 sports scene here in the state of Utah. We have 43 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:23.520 NHL hockey arriving officially in our market tomorrow. The Chicago 44 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:26.759 Blackhawks are in town for an eight o'clock Mountain time. 45 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.360 They'll drop the puck, as they say, at eight o'clock. 46 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.759 That game is actually on ESPN, so you can watch 47 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.240 it on on ESPN tonight. The Jazz actually do host 48 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:40.240 the Rockets. In a little preseason action, the Utah Jazz 49 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:43.080 some care of the New Zealand Breakers on Friday night 50 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.840 and they're off to a one to oh start in preseason. 51 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.680 The end, RSL picks up a point on the road. 52 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.719 Santose won Noil Diego Luna with a great strike with 53 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:57.080 his left boots, catching the posts, going in RSL getting 54 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.039 all three points on the road over the weekend and 55 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:04.080 therefore locking in a top four seed in the MLS playoffs, 56 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:07.039 meaning we have home playoff soccer in our market coming up, 57 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.680 which for some of you may not move the needle. 58 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.319 For a lot of you, it probably does. For me, 59 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.919 it does because it's a lot of fun and we'll 60 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.199 see who the opponent is. As of now, it feels 61 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.240 like it's going to be Houston. Yeah, Yeah, that's where 62 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.680 we're at. So a lot to do. How about a 63 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:27.520 little wild Card baseball? Little playoff baseball? The Alds not 64 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.879 Wildcard Divisional Series is where we're at. The Guardians and 65 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.319 the Tigers so are going out of right now scoreless 66 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.159 in the top of the second Royals and the Yankees 67 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:41.039 will get going about five thirty eight Mountain time on TBS. 68 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:44.439 So busy time. So not only do we get hockey 69 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:48.919 coming up tomorrow, but PGA Tour golf returns to our 70 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:52.319 state for the first time in over sixty years. Black 71 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.800 Desert Championship taking place in Saint George that starts on Thursday. 72 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.520 Our very own Ja Don Blake. One of the coolest 73 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.919 stories coming out of this thing. Part excuse me, Saint 74 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.199 George resident who is about to make his five hundred 75 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.360 start on the PGA Tour and he'll do it in 76 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:11.840 his backyard at the Black Desert Championship. Really cool. Did 77 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.759 a couple of specials on him over the weekend on 78 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.560 some local TV and just a really cool thing. So 79 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:18.800 a lot to do on the show. Good guest list 80 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.079 for you guys, as we are wont to do every 81 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:24.720 Monday during the college football season. If you miss coach 82 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.519 Wits media availability today, that's going to come your way 83 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:30.720 right out of the gates, because it's important I think 84 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.199 to hear what Kyle had to say today about a 85 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.160 bunch of different issues that are currently going on both 86 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:40.120 in and around the Utah football program. Coach what was 87 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:45.480 asked about injury policy? Does he want uniform reporting across 88 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:48.639 the landscape at college football breaking news? He does? And 89 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.000 what's the latest hunder center and what are his thoughts 90 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:57.040 on ASU the opponent coming up on Friday night? You so, Valimachi, 91 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:58.920 I hope I'm saying that correctly. I believe I am 92 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.879 Utah Hockey Club to get you ready for the hockey 93 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:03.759 match coming up tomorrow. We're gonna visit with my buddy 94 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:08.399 Ryan from Epic Brewing, former Utah quarterback Scott Mitchell, and 95 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:13.879 Patrick Manning to talk a little Black Desert Championship. He's 96 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.319 the managing partner. He's been on the show before and 97 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.759 he has the ability to get free time tea times 98 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:21.759 at Black Desert, so I am happy to have him 99 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.279 on the show as much as he would like to 100 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.839 join us. So I'm gonna let you hear from coach 101 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.000 wit you so Valamachi from the Utah Hockey Club, little 102 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.680 Scott Mitchell, little Patrick Manning, Me, Spence Jackets, all of you, 103 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:36.519 the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson. More caught 104 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:40.360 off guard with the chaos in college or pro football 105 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.399 over the weekend. Both leagues had, and I say leagues intentionally. 106 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.199 Both leagues had crazy, crazy games over the weekend. 107 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:47.360 You're not wrong, You're not wrong. 108 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.720 More cut off guard, I would say with the NFL, 109 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:54.040 just because I don't expect the NFL to be as wild. 110 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:58.519 College football, to me is so unpredictable based on as 111 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:03.079 you mentioned, availability, based on week to week. You just 112 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.279 don't know really what you get with a roster full 113 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.199 of eighteen to twenty two year olds in this current 114 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.519 landscape of the sport. So I think it was more 115 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:13.680 caught off guard with the chaos on the pro side 116 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:19.079 of things. But I think that's what's lovely about football 117 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.240 is that I wasn't really caught off guard by any 118 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:21.519 of it. 119 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:22.720 I enjoyed it, I loved it. 120 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.720 But chaos is kind of what you start to expect 121 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:30.279 when it gets into October November. That's just football, and 122 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.879 it's what We're here for and can't wait for what 123 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.959 should be even more chaotic in the coming what month 124 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.279 to six weeks leading up to conference titles in the 125 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:42.360 college football playoffs. 126 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.480 We're halfway done, man, I've said every year, We're halfway done. 127 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.279 It's gonna be week seven coming up with the landscape 128 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.759 of college football. So enjoy it. Well it lasts all right. 129 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.639 Our first guest, well not our first guest, but you're 130 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:56.839 gonna hear from Coach win coming up on the other side. 131 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.360 He addressed the media earlier today, and we bring it 132 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.519 back to you every Monday as a proud partner of 133 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:03.319 the University of Utah. You'll hear that coming up in 134 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:05.959 a bit, but before we get to Coach Wick. Courtesy 135 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.959 of howur good friends and you're good friends too. It's 136 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:12.240 Standard Restaurant Supply. Standard Restaurant supplies your tailgate headquarters. Check 137 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.399 them out at Standard restaurant dot com online or conveniently 138 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.120 located at thirty five hundred South West Temple. Our good 139 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.600 friends at Standard Restaurant Supply bring you your opening tip. 140 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.120 Welcome to the Drive with Spence Check. It's on Utah's 141 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.839 number one sports talk Now into the studio of ESPN 142 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.800 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. The 143 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.800 opening tip of the Drive is brought to you by 144 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:39.160 Standard Restaurant Supply, your one stop shop to build the 145 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:43.839 best tailgate in town. Standard Restaurant Supply thirty five hundred 146 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:44.920 Southwest Temple. 147 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:48.399 So we're back out of this week. We're back at 148 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.240 it with both Utah and BYU. Pretty rare where both 149 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:53.360 teams have a bye. Both teams are gonna have two 150 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.399 buys this year. The first buy now behind us and 151 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.120 now Utah football back out of coming up on Friday night. 152 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.279 It is an eighth thirty kick against Arizona State at 153 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:06.279 Mount America Stadium down in Tempe. Our pregame coverage will 154 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.160 begin at four thirty, meaning the Drive that day will 155 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:10.639 be a little bit of a short show and then 156 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.120 I'll hand it over to Porter. Game time. Weather as 157 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.639 of now is ninety five degrees in Tempe, even though 158 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.720 it's a thirty mountain time, so it's gonna be a 159 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.800 hot night as it always is down there. And Utah 160 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.199 at this point, even though they were idle, they did 161 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.920 move up in the poll and the AP poll as 162 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:28.240 a result of the chaos that happened in college football 163 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:29.319 over the weekend that we're going to get to in 164 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:32.240 a moment. Utah is a three point favorite as of 165 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.519 right now, okay, and so the line has oscillated a bit, 166 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:38.639 but as of today, if I'm seeing the right line, 167 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:40.799 I think I am BYU is a three point favorite. 168 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:45.519 For BYU side of things today, pretty excited announcement as 169 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:49.720 Fox Big Noon kickoff is coming to Provo coming up 170 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.399 on Saturday for that BYU Arizona game, which is a 171 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.399 really big game for a lot of different reasons. We'll 172 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.519 get to that. That's a two o'clock Mountain time kick. 173 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.919 And BYU is a three point five point favorite as 174 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.600 we sit here today. So a couple things here over 175 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.519 the weekend. We probably should have known because on Friday, Houston, 176 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:12.120 who has not even looked like a serious football team, 177 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.200 went down to TCU got it done. First upset of 178 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.120 the weekend. Probably time to start talking about Iowa State 179 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.039 a little bit differently. They're the highest ranked the Big 180 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.320 twelve team as of now. Bring them young at second 181 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.919 West Virginia goes to Stillwater, and I said, after Utah 182 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.000 went to still Water, got through, went over, Okay State, 183 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.960 Utah went to a place where the team doesn't lose 184 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.360 and got it done well. Oklahoma State might just be bad, 185 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.039 which is bad news for Utah. You know that win 186 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.240 not looking near as good as it did. West Virginia fine, right, 187 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.480 Maybe the seventh or eighth best team in the conference 188 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.519 went to Stillwater and laid it on them. It wasn't 189 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:47.039 just thirty eight to fourteen as a final. It was 190 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.039 thirty one zero at one point, thirty one seven a half, 191 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.960 and then West Virginia just cruised to the win. UCF 192 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:56.120 battled down to Florida, but Florida got that done. Kansas 193 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.120 also might just be bad. We thought they'd be better. 194 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:02.159 Utah's opponent, Arizona State, got done there. And then Arizona, 195 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.279 after rolling in here and smacking the Utes, goes back 196 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.480 home and loses to Tech. It's just a really, really 197 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:12.559 weird landscape in college football, and it happens. It just 198 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.440 happens every year. If you listen to the show. First 199 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.960 of all, thank you hello, how are you? Second of all, 200 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.919 you know, I say every year, don't bet on college 201 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.360 football because you're not going to win. It's so hard 202 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.480 even for anybody who analyzes the sport covers it week 203 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.120 in and week out, and I'm talking about the highest 204 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:31.960 respected people like I listen to what Klatt says, and 205 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.679 I listen to what a lot of the national analysts 206 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.799 like Herb Street, our guy Josh Pay, guys like that. 207 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.200 Everybody was wrong about what to expect this weekend and certainly, 208 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.600 and we saw a bunch of different examples of it 209 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:48.200 all weekend long. So Vanderbilt, who deserves a little credit here. 210 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.519 Vandy is the only school in the SEC where you 211 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.559 actually have to fill out paperwork to go to school. 212 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.600 You actually have to sign something and then they make 213 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:59.879 you go to class. They welcome in Alabama. And it 214 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.159 wasn't just that they beat them because Alabama did write 215 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.519 the ship Klein debor Alabama. They righted the ship a 216 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.879 little bit. It was a close game with a ton 217 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.360 of time left in the third quarter into the fourth, 218 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.200 and Vandy held on forty thirty five for potentially the 219 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:18.679 biggest win in the history of that program. Goalposts came down. 220 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:22.200 The fans apparently walked two full miles while carrying a 221 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.879 very heavy goal post before dumping it into a river 222 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.039 near Nashville. So scene certainly down at Vanderbilt, but they 223 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.799 gave us a little bit of a clue here. They 224 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.519 beat VA Tech Week one, they took Mazoo to overtime. Look, 225 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.840 nobody thought they were going to beat Bama, but just 226 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:40.159 chaos and college football, and it wasn't just Bama. Tennessee, 227 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:43.240 who most people thought had established themselves as a legitimate 228 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.879 national championship contender, goes to Little Rock. They lose Arkansas, 229 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.559 so they go home with a loss. Miami should have 230 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:54.200 lost in Berkeley. Shout out to Cal. Some shoddy officiating 231 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.480 to say the least, but Miami escapes with a thirty 232 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.679 nine thirty eight win A and m smokes Massouo at 233 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.519 Ford Field. Michigan goes up to the Pacific Northwest. They 234 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.720 lose to Washington USC. I hate taking the victory lap 235 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.600 every year about this overhyped program. Every year I hear 236 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.840 about USC save it until they prove it. They're one 237 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.960 and two in conference play. They lose at Minnesota and 238 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:21.000 the hits continue. SMU is now in the top twenty five. 239 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.360 That BYU win at SMU looks really really good. But 240 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.559 ultimately over the weekend what took place is really good 241 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.519 news for both Utah and BYU. We'll start with BYU 242 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.559 side of things. They're one of twelve FBS teams undefeated. 243 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.159 They're two and h versus the AP Top twenty five. 244 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.639 They're the only team that's two and oh against the 245 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:41.559 AP Top twenty five right now. They move up to 246 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.399 number fourteen in the country. They're a legitimate Top twenty, 247 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:48.879 top fifteen team now. They welcome in Arizona and Fox 248 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.639 Big Noon Kickoff coming up on Saturday, a game that 249 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:56.039 they're favored in. It's probably safe to say that if 250 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:59.240 BYU wins on Saturday, and then the following week they 251 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.519 go to Stillwater and get a winning it's okay. State again, 252 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:03.879 not a great team, not ne year as good as 253 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:06.519 we thought they'd be. With all the chaos that's happened 254 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.440 in front of BYU. They could be a top ten 255 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.879 program in two weeks. Then they go to Orlando, and 256 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.200 I promise you there will be a lot, a lot 257 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.559 of BYU fans in Orlando, I promise you. Okay, So 258 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.320 they're go to UCF UCF. I still think it's solid, 259 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.240 probably gonna be there in the end, and then they 260 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.559 come up here to Salt Lake City to take on 261 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.399 the Utah on the night. So good news for BYU 262 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.679 because if they handle their business. They'll continue to kind 263 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.960 of creep up the standings in a way that nobody 264 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.279 thought they would if we're honest here, and so a 265 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.559 lot of teams in front of BYU lose. And as 266 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:41.639 a result of that, even though they were idle Bergham 267 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.519 Young moves up a couple of spots in the AP 268 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.720 and out of number fourteen. Now good news for Utah 269 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.360 over the weekend. The reason why the weekend was good 270 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.080 news for Utah, let me phrase it that way, is 271 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:55.679 it's pretty safe to say, as of right now, there's 272 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:59.360 an excellent chance that multiple teams in the CFP will 273 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:04.120 have at least two, three, maybe even more losses. That's 274 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.600 how even all this stuff appears to be. And it's 275 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:08.600 not just in the Big twelve. It's pretty much all 276 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.840 over the place. But if we hone in on the 277 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.279 Big twelve at this point, your undefeated teams right now 278 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.440 are Texas Tech, BYU, Iowa State, Colorado, and West Virginia. 279 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.879 Those are your five undefeated teams. Okay, we thought the 280 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:27.080 teams would be kay State, maybe Arizona, certainly Utah, Oklahoma State, 281 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:29.960 and a lot of people like TCU and Kansas. It 282 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.200 has been the exact opposite, and I hope that BYU 283 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:36.759 continues to do what they've done so far and win 284 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.200 football games. But I don't have a lot of confidence 285 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.440 that any of those five teams will finish conference play 286 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.600 with even a loss, probably multiple losses, because every weekend 287 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.639 has brought chaos with the landscape of college football. It's 288 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.360 why it's such a great product. We never know what's 289 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.639 going to happen, and that's why we all watch. But 290 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.799 I do think the chaos over the weekend is good 291 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.039 news for both Utah and BYU. All Right, last thing here, 292 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:04.159 Let's be clear about this. I'm not reporting anything. I 293 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.440 am not telling you this is going to happen. I 294 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.600 will remind you that I was the guy last year 295 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.519 after the first month when Cam didn't play, who told 296 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:13.639 you he wasn't going to play all year, and you 297 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.559 got mad at me. I'm the guy last year after 298 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.399 the first month who told you Brandt wasn't playing all year, 299 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.080 and you got mad at me. That's fine. I am 300 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.440 not here to tell you that any decision has been made, 301 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.759 but I can tell you, based off a conversation I 302 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.080 had over the weekend, there is a real feel inside 303 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.440 the building that they're not that far off from just 304 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.440 rolling with Isaac. The rest of the way, Friday Night 305 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.440 is bigger than I think most people are making it 306 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.000 out to be. And I can't say this for sure, 307 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.440 but part of me believes, and I have an inclination 308 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.320 in my gut to believe that if we're all watching 309 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.399 Friday Night, eight thirty Mountain Time, and Utah's offense rolls 310 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.600 out onto the field and it's eleven, not seven, there's 311 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.320 a chance that that's the deal moving forward, period, end 312 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.559 of story. And I get it. I don't know that 313 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.240 I fully agree with it, only because I, like all 314 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.519 of you. If you've watched Utah football for the past 315 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.200 four or five years, you've seen Cam rise and do 316 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.000 things that very few players in the history of this 317 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:13.360 school have done at that position or elsewhere elsewhere. He 318 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.159 is and will go down no matter what. We should 319 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.000 be clear about this, no matter what happens with Cam 320 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.639 the rest of the way, two PAC twelve Championships, two 321 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:25.120 Rose Bowls, like his place is cemented. He should never 322 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.039 pay for a beer in Salt Lake City ever. Again, 323 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:28.919 I know a lot of you disagree with that because 324 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.840 you're frustrated with the thing, but I still believe, no 325 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.679 matter when it is, even if it's week seven, eight nine, 326 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.279 whatever it is, when he's ready, I still think the 327 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.600 job should be his because the Utah offense simply can 328 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:47.240 be summarized through data and numbers. Right now, Isaac has 329 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:50.039 seven picks. That's like one hundred and thirteenth in a 330 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:52.960 country in FBS, Utah is one hundred and eleventh in 331 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:57.440 red zone, one hundred and thirteenth on third down. Like, Okay, 332 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.960 you're gonna roll with Isaac. I get it. Everyone's frustrated. 333 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.840 You have to at some point turn the page and 334 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.640 give Isaac all the reps with the ones. But if 335 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.440 you're going to be there in the end with his 336 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.440 conference in having something to say about the conference championship, 337 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:13.759 if it's Isaac, it just has to be better somehow, someway. 338 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.240 I'm not the offensive coordinator. Those guys know way more 339 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.400 about their team than I do. Coach Ludwig earns the 340 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.359 benefit of the doubt from you guys. Hopefully he can 341 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.960 figure something out, dial some things up. If it is Isaac, 342 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:26.119 because the offense has not been good enough. Look what 343 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.359 we know about Utah football this year can essentially be 344 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:32.960 summarized with what we know about the way Kyle Whitneyham 345 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.920 believes football should be played, and far be it for 346 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.359 me to argue with a guy who has a pedigree 347 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.839 and a resume like his as to what he should 348 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.240 or should not do. Play good defense, take care of 349 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.440 the football, you know, establish a good run game, and 350 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.079 hopefully bounce it out with what, like Kyle likes to say, 351 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.680 a good throw game. But they really haven't been able 352 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.839 to do any of that with consistency with Isaac Hunner 353 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.960 Center yet. Now could it happen? Sure it could, And 354 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.039 I have to wonder that if they do decide to 355 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:02.640 pull the plug and just go with Isaac and turn 356 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.400 the page on Cam Rising with that open up something 357 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.920 in Isaac's mind, knowing that the job is his now, 358 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.200 I don't know what's gonna happen on Friday. Let you 359 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.640 guys decide for yourself, because coming up next, we're gonna 360 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:17.359 hear from coach Kyle Whittingham his media availability from earlier today. 361 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.680 He has some things to say about this and a 362 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.799 lot of other topics. 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Gave us a chance to regroup a 448 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:37.480 little bit and get some guys, some of the bumps 449 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.720 and bruises that have accumulated. 450 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:41.519 Healed up. 451 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.759 We've been going shoot since August first, so over two 452 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.400 months straight without any sort of a break. So it's 453 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.160 good for these guys to get a break. I think we, 454 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.599 as we do every year, try to strike a good 455 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.680 balance with getting some practice in but at the same 456 00:22:55.720 --> 00:23:02.119 time giving them some downtime to refresh. Arizona State road 457 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.759 trip this week, they're playing well four and one. Impressed 458 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.480 with you know a lot of things about their football team. 459 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.880 They're much more productive offensively this year than they were 460 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.160 able to be last year. The tailback is a tough, 461 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:21.880 hard nosed guy, some good receivers, just very productive on offense. 462 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.039 Quarterback is definitely a dual threat. So we got to 463 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.920 work cut out for us. And it's gonna be hot, 464 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.160 which is nothing new to us. We've had a few 465 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:34.759 hot games this year and so I think ninety seven 466 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:39.359 at kick is what it's projected to be. But it's 467 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.079 you know, same for both teams, just like always, so 468 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.519 so we'll just be able to have to handle that. 469 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:51.160 And that's where we're at. So questions justin I should say, question. 470 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.160 Okay in regards to the Arizona University game. 471 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.039 In the first quarter, it was fourth down two years ago, 472 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.720 you decided to go for the first down instead of 473 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.279 kicking the field goals. It is in my belief that 474 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.400 if you would have kicked said field goals, we could 475 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.880 have kept the momentum and could have potentially won the game. 476 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:10.519 Would you follow the same protocol this week? And he's 477 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:11.960 not a fan of the analytics. 478 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.200 You're not a fan of analytics, So you know you 479 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.519 don't believe in science, is what you're trying to say. Uh, 480 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.359 you know, there's there's a there's an argument for that, 481 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.119 But the analytics was heavily, heavily in favor of going 482 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:28.880 for it in those situations. I've said before, we are 483 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.519 pretty tuned into the analytics. It's not absolute for us, 484 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.079 and if we have a different field and we'll go 485 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:35.839 a different direction. 486 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:37.839 But when it's that. 487 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:44.000 Heavily skewed to going for it, you know, field goals obviously, 488 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.240 touchdowns are worth more than double a field goal, and 489 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.440 so if you end up kicking field goals a bunch, 490 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.240 you don't win many games. And so, in hindsight, if 491 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.119 I knew we weren't going to get it on fourth down, 492 00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:57.799 we would have we would have kicked, but the strategy 493 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:03.079 and the definite statistic goal, uh recommendation was to go 494 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.240 for it. So unfortunately, we we were zero for fourth 495 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.519 down in that game, where we had been really good 496 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.079 the week before. We were four for five, uh the 497 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.079 week before at uh Oakie State. So it was a 498 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.319 complete reversal of that. But but uh, yeah, there's some 499 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.640 old school guys apparently or one of them that uh 500 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.000 that would like to carry Okay, thank you for that question, 501 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.400 justin by the way, I appreciate it. 502 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:26.200 Uh. 503 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:28.359 A week ago you said can't rise and all play 504 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.039 as soon as he gets to go ahead? Does that 505 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.839 go ahead from the medical staff or the coaching staff. 506 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:38.119 Medical staff, Uh, without any other input. I mean, it's 507 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.279 all we're following the recommendations. We he has following the 508 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.799 recommendations as well as from the doctors, and and uh, 509 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.240 we'll see what happens this week. But but there's a 510 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.440 there's a chance I can tell you that, and and 511 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:53.079 uh it's still early in the week, but uh, we're 512 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:55.559 crossing our fingers and hoping for the best as his 513 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.200 camp and so we're we're just seeing how things play out. 514 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.920 But again, we follow all the medical recommendations. We're not 515 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.759 gonna you know, I'm not a doctor, Cam's not a doctor. 516 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.079 We're not going to go against that. So that's where 517 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:07.400 we're at. 518 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:08.440 Kyle. 519 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.079 I'm just curious, what is I guess your strategy behind 520 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.480 how you approach the injury report and kind of to 521 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.480 follow up on that the Big Ten and the SEC 522 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.039 they have mandated injury reports. Would you be in support 523 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.319 if the Big twelve were to go in that direction? 524 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.559 One hundred percent. But since there is no mandate, why 525 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.599 would you tip your hand in any way, shape or 526 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.400 form with injuries? It doesn't make any sense to give 527 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.799 the opponent any more knowledge than they have. And so 528 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.839 that's the only reason it's not. It's no other reason 529 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:45.440 other than there's a competitive advantage. Even though it might 530 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.920 be just slight, it's it's still an advantage. The less 531 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.640 they know, the more we know, uh you know, that 532 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.559 type of deal. But but yeah, I would be I 533 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.799 would support that if the Big Twelve were to come 534 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.839 out and say, hey, you need to you know, disclose 535 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.640 and have an injury report. But I don't think it 536 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.720 should be conference to conference Again. I think P four 537 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:09.519 should all operate under the same guidelines, the same rules regulations. 538 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.119 Right now, it's all over the place. And so I 539 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.799 would be in favor of whoever would make that call 540 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.960 for all P four confidence to be aligned and have 541 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.960 a consistent way of handling and dealing with injuries. 542 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.119 So that's where I'm at. 543 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.960 If a player is medically cleared, but he's not one 544 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.960 hundred percent, what's your philosophy. 545 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:32.480 On playing him? 546 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.079 If that player isn't one hundred percent, but whatever percent 547 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.319 he is gives you a better chance to win than one. 548 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.240 Hundred percent of the backup. You see what I'm saying. 549 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.559 You answered your own question, PK exactly. It's that's exactly 550 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:46.839 the formula. It's it's who gives you the best chance 551 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:51.319 to win? Is an eighty percent cam Rising more of 552 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.240 an opportunity to win than one hundred percent Isaac Wilson. 553 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.440 And so that's a coach's decision, a coach's call, and 554 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.119 it's you know, it's you're not going to be right 555 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.279 all the time, but that's that's the exact criteria we use. 556 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.839 And first of all, you know, you don't want to 557 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:11.240 expose the kid to you know, furthering the injury. But 558 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.079 you wouldn't get clearance if he didn't you know, if 559 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.640 that was the case, so it would be exactly what 560 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.640 you just said. Whoever that particular week gives us the 561 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:24.039 best chance to win given the physical circumstances, would that would. 562 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:24.200 Be the guy? 563 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.480 Kyle Cam is obviously your guy. But does there come 564 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.000 a point in the season where if Cam isn't available 565 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.559 that you have to look to the future and just 566 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.559 turn it over the eye just to say that this 567 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:35.599 is what it is? Or how long do you wait? 568 00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.480 Yeah, that's a good question, and yeah, there is a point. 569 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.599 I'm not going to pin ourselves down to an exact 570 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.680 specific time, but as things progress, and then also the 571 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.160 conference race. You know, where are you in the conference race. 572 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.279 There's some things that enter into it, but it certainly 573 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.640 could come to that point, but we're not there yet. 574 00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.519 And to fall with with Isaac, where does he need 575 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.039 to make those next steps each week, especially own or 576 00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.440 what are you saying that that needs to improve? 577 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.839 I would say the entire his entire game just needs 578 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.960 to continue to get tighter and better, you know, cut 579 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.759 down on the interceptions. First of all, you know, we've 580 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.720 had some interceptions along the way, but there's not one 581 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.920 any glaring not any one glaring area we can say, boy, 582 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.039 he's really lacking in this or that. It's just he's 583 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.680 a freshman, a true freshman, and there's gonna be a 584 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:25.839 learning curve, and there's gonna be mistakes made that you're 585 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.119 gonna have to live with. And as long as the 586 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.400 more reps he accrues and the more time he gets, 587 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.720 you know, playing time, the less those mistakes show up 588 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.079 and we're turning in the right direction. 589 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:37.279 That's really what you're looking for. 590 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.759 To kind of piggyback off of that question. Given isaac 591 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.400 struggles with turnovers, is there you know, if the keys 592 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.720 do have to get handed over to him at some point, 593 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.960 is there gonna be a consideration to maybe maybe get 594 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.000 Brandon Rose or Sam Heward more reps given the struggles 595 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.160 that the offense has had without Cam under Isaac. 596 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:56.599 Not right now. 597 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.400 Right now, Isaac is the is the guy, and if 598 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.960 Cam becomes the guy again, then Isaac becomes the clear 599 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.720 cut number two. And again, if Isaac continues to play 600 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.720 and doesn't trend in the right direction, then just what 601 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.519 you said may come into play, But right now, we 602 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.799 don't feel that's in play at this point. 603 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.480 Bernard's had a fantastic season. But what have you seen 604 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.519 from the other running backs lately and how do you 605 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:21.880 get more production out of them? 606 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:25.440 Yeah, Mackay has been the bell cow, he's been RB one. 607 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.799 He's played himself into that role. He was not in 608 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.440 that role initially at the beginning of the season, where 609 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.039 he lets things sort themselves out, which they have, and 610 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.680 he is the guy that's getting the vast majority of 611 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.119 the carries. The other backs, Mike Mitchell just a freshman 612 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.519 still learning, but he's added some value to that room 613 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.880 and had some good carries this season. Dejon Stanley's done 614 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.119 the same thing, although he's more of a limited package guy. 615 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.960 Charlie Vincent's contributed. Jalen Glover is a guy that is 616 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.880 in the room as well that you may see start 617 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:05.160 to get more time. But Makaya is the number one 618 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.400 guy and his play has been outstanding and so that's 619 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.759 why he has got the vast majority of the carries. 620 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.759 Bye weeks are important for the players to recoup and rest. 621 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.759 For for coaches, how much does it help you guys 622 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.240 to reset strammatically personnel wise, just assessing your team gives 623 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:22.480 us a. 624 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.839 Good opportunity to evaluate everything. But there's a lot of 625 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.960 recruiting going on as well during the bye week, So 626 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.920 it's not just football. Our coaches were on the road 627 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.680 for half the half the bye week and so and 628 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.559 recruiting never stops. You're doing some form of recruiting every 629 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.880 single day, and so when you have a bye week 630 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.319 and let you physically get off campus and go watch 631 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.960 players and evaluate and so so that was going on. 632 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.039 But the you know, being able to again self evaluate 633 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.160 and help you know, make make personnel decisions going forward. 634 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.039 All that type of stuff is bye week is a 635 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.079 good time to get that done. 636 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.359 Given the Arizona ran from more than five yards of 637 00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.640 carry over one hundred and fifty yards, how do you 638 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.599 challenge your defense? How do you talk to them in 639 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.039 the film room? And I kind of set the stage. 640 00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.680 Then you're going against the team. 641 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.960 Likes to run the ball, and that's pretty good at it. 642 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.400 Yeah, well just challenge him just like that, say, if 643 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:15.960 we can stop the run, then we got a good 644 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.519 chance of winning. And we did not do a good 645 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.000 job against Arizona. We've done a pretty good job all 646 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.519 season up until that game. Well all season what was 647 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.039 at three games, four games, But. 648 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.279 That'll be the key this week. They're a run heavy team. 649 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.119 They're well over two hundred yards of game rushing, and 650 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.720 if we're as non effective as we were in the 651 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:36.599 Arizona game, it's going to be a long It's going 652 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.119 to be a long night. And so that is the 653 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.240 big challenge for our defense is to start up and 654 00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.559 become what we know we can be against the run. 655 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.240 Obviously, you walked in the season kind of because there 656 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.160 was rumors floating that Cam could potentially play an eighth 657 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:56.160 year of college football given his injury status. Is that 658 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.039 a possibility if he has has to shut down for 659 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.880 the rest of the season, that he could potentially come 660 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.079 back for an eighth year of gold game? 661 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:04.440 You know what, I couldn't say for sure. That's a 662 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.279 compliance question. But if it does come to that point, 663 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.039 that's something we would thoroughly. 664 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:11.400 Have the answer to and research. 665 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:15.160 But I haven't even really given that any thought because 666 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.559 we're just hopefully going to get him back sooner rather 667 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:19.000 than later. 668 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:20.920 So and I know he wants to play. He wants 669 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:21.640 to play badly. 670 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.880 With the way that the schedule has been set up, 671 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.799 you have this week, next weekend, the week after three games, 672 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:32.279 and then another bye week. How crucial is this stretch 673 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:33.920 of the schedule for you. 674 00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.559 Guys, Well, it's very crucial. I mean, we got our 675 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.279 backs to the wall in a lot of respects. 676 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:38.759 Right now. 677 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:41.680 You look at the standings in the Big Twelve and 678 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.960 there's two or three teams with three losses. 679 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.640 That are essentially out of it. 680 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.519 I mean, I don't know if I don't see how 681 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.200 that any way that they can I guess I shouldn't 682 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.680 say there's no way, but it's very, very unlikely that 683 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.200 they're going to have an opportunity to be in. 684 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:55.880 The championship game. 685 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.440 Then the two loss teams have a somewhat of a chance, 686 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.240 and everyone with one loss or less is still right 687 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.119 in the thick of it. But every week we're we 688 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.359 got to get back on track. We didn't play well 689 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.559 against Arizona. You can be a good football team and 690 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.480 not play well and get your butt energy. 691 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:13.280 You look at Alabama. 692 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.360 You tell me that Vanderbilt has even close to the 693 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.000 personnel that Alabama has. There's no way, I mean that 694 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.800 Minnesota has even close to the personnel that USC has. 695 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.679 And so that there's illustrations all over the place where 696 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:26.679 it doesn't matter. 697 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:27.800 Well, it matters. 698 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.280 But you can be a really good football team, but 699 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.280 if you don't perform and execute, you're gonna get beat. 700 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.840 And so where we are right now, we can't look 701 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.800 past the Arizona State. Yeah there is three games that 702 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.079 I buy, but it's all focused on Arizona State, and 703 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:42.119 this is an important stretch and it's you know, we 704 00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.679 gotta we got to get the ship turned back around 705 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:48.280 because it was a very disappointing loss against Arizona. The 706 00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.719 quarterback played well again for Feeda. The receivers terrific. I 707 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.440 don't want to diminish their you know what they accomplish, 708 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.800 but we did not play well. 709 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.440 Obviously, you like to have earlier games. I think you 710 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.639 said you want four am games. 711 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:02.760 If you could, sure, let's go. 712 00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.280 Yeah, when you have these late games, you know, a 713 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.119 couple of weeks ago with the Arizona game, now you 714 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.360 get this game with Airzon State. How do you keep 715 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.119 guys or what do you do as a team to 716 00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:12.880 kind of help them kind of stay in the mode 717 00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.719 and not let the day just kind of get away 718 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:16.079 from them. 719 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:16.719 Good question. 720 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.400 On game day when it is at late kick, we 721 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.840 have first of all meetings. You know, there's some short 722 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.719 not extensive, but short offense defensive meetings walk through. We 723 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:30.079 have a flex period where they go and stretch out 724 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.599 and stay loose. We got a nap period, you know, 725 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.559 a designated nap block of time. There's you know, three 726 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.960 meals that day. You got breakfast, lunch, and the pregame 727 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.400 meal later on, and so so we find a way 728 00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.039 to keep them occupied, but make sure they have enough 729 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.719 time just to you know, rest and relax and get 730 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.679 themselves ready for the game. And it'll be important this 731 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:51.719 week to hydrate. I mean obviously that was you know, 732 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:53.920 that would be part of it, and so pushing fluids 733 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.000 on game day as well as all week long. 734 00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:57.800 But that's that's a big part of it. 735 00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.440 Kind of to shift focus to the red zone issues 736 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.679 that you guys have had for the past two weeks. 737 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.599 How much of that is not having CAM in the 738 00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.360 lineup versus just personnel and schematic struggles. 739 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:09.719 Yeah. 740 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.119 Cam's very good in the red zone historically, and so 741 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.840 that's that's a part of it. And we're about twenty 742 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.360 percent off what we need to be. It's not like 743 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.800 we just absolutely are horrible. We're at fifty percent, which 744 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.679 isn't good by any means. But seventy percent is our target. 745 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.280 And if we can be seventy percent in the red zone, 746 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.079 which we have been several years, then that's good production. 747 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.280 And Cam would certainly you know, an experienced kiny like him. 748 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.639 That's that's got you know, as much a crude football time, 749 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.039 he's going to be very adapted functioning in. 750 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.639 The red zone. 751 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.800 Sam Lovitt was someone you guys looked at in the 752 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.840 transfer portal. What'st it out about him in that time 753 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.679 and what challenges does he pose to the defense. 754 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.840 His athleticism, he's a he's a true threat, dual threat. 755 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.360 As I mentioned earlier. He's doing a good job with 756 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.000 the QB run game for him. He's still really got 757 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.159 and so his development is still you know, ahead of him. 758 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.599 His efficiency rating right now is about one thirty three 759 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.960 throwing the ball, so got some work to do there. 760 00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.960 And but you know, he's doing a really good job 761 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.480 of doing what they're asking him to do, and they 762 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.559 they're doing a really good job of making sure the 763 00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.280 offense is tailored to his skill set. And he's, like 764 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.400 I said, a very capable runner. He's a tough kid. 765 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.840 We liked everything about him. We thought it could be 766 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.119 in terrific safety as well or linebacker. I mean he's 767 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:31.880 one of those qbs that could play two or three 768 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.920 other spots, and he's so athletically. A Chase Hansen type 769 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:41.159 of guy. Yeah, go Yankees. Five o eight. I think 770 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.400 that's first pitch, five thirty eight. 771 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.000 Let's go, Coach Wi Porter. It's not talked about enough 772 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:55.360 how similar Kyle and I are. Nobody really that should 773 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.360 be discussed more. I think around the mark we have 774 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.159 a lot in common. I'm all gas, no breaks, You're you. 775 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.960 Sometimes you're in the way, but I'm all in and Port. 776 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.119 I want to say some of you today, we will 777 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.360 not become you, you will become us. Go Yankees. 778 00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.519 I mean I'm not joining the Yankees, nor nor am I. 779 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.079 I'm trying to be a part of that particular group. 780 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.559 So the point is how similar Kyle and I are. 781 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:20.639 That's the point. 782 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.199 Okay, you can see that right and listen. 783 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.360 In a lot of ways, I would love to be 784 00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.880 like Kyle Whittingham. That's not one of them, an LA 785 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.320 guy cheering for the Yankees. 786 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.440 Come on, Kyle, what is the Do you have the 787 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.760 origin story for Coach Witt being a Yankee fan? 788 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.199 I think it was a specific player. Maybe back in 789 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:39.519 the day. 790 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.159 Something didn't know that until today, I should have known 791 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:42.679 that he's I. 792 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.599 Do know that he's not a Dodgers fan because he was. 793 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.840 He was in more of an Anaheim so he was 794 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.119 like an Angels guy. But they were so bad that 795 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.239 I think maybe he veered towards the like you say, 796 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.199 a team that wins sometimes. 797 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.119 You know what, Maybe Kyle and I will FaceTime you 798 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.800 this week when we're studying ASU film. Yeah, just a 799 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.199 couple of Yankee I can a couple of Yankee fans 800 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:06.280 that grind on tape. It's not a big deal. Just 801 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.559 people should talk about it more. 802 00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.480 All right, cometes Gon, bring in. 803 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:16.039 Scott Mitchell today, Homer Utah and NFL quarterback all the 804 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.880 latest on the QV position at the U. Look ahead, 805 00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:23.239 ASU talk, a little Big twelve football, a little national 806 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.480 college football from a big picture standpoint. Chaos Week six, 807 00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:31.000 College Football Week seven. My goodness, we're already halfway done, man, 808 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.480 as we have turned our calendars to October now, so 809 00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.760 we'll get to that coming up, Patrick Manny will stop by. 810 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:42.440 It is a historic week in our state as we're 811 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.639 going to get golf PGA Tour golf for the first 812 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.840 time in sixty years, and for the first time ever, 813 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.000 we get some hockey. Chicago's in town, the Blackhawks tomorrow 814 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.079 night at the Delta Center. You saw Vlamachi as our 815 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.000 guest on a Monday you So, how are. 816 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.280 You, buddy, I'm doing good. How are you? 817 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.079 I'm well appreciate your time today. So let's just start 818 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.480 as you are new to our fine city, our fine community, 819 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.880 and we are thrilled to have you guys here, excited 820 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.599 for tomorrow night. What have you learned about your new home? 821 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.880 What have you learned about Salt Lake City and Utah 822 00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:14.480 and the folks that you've met so far. 823 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.960 I mean, it's beautiful. That's definitely the one thing that 824 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.239 kind of jumps out. And I think the other one 825 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.599 that's it's been really nice to notice is you know, 826 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:32.360 the people. People are super nice. Everyone's been really welcoming 827 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.280 and just around our neighborhood and you know, obviously around 828 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.400 you know, the rink or where wherever we've kind of been, 829 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.400 and you know, you can just sense the excitement that 830 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.639 everybody has towards us and the team being here. So 831 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.599 that's that's something that's really exciting and fun and motivating 832 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.039 for us. So yeah, those those two things stand out. 833 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.039 We've had a couple of your teammates on the show 834 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:03.639 for the past few weeks. I'm gonna ask you some 835 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.119 of the same questions I asked them because we're all 836 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.559 of us here. You saw in the market. We're trying 837 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.039 to get to know you guys a little bit. So 838 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.239 tell us about yourself, where you grew up, when you 839 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.599 first started playing hockey, and the path that ultimately has 840 00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:15.800 landed you. Hear in Salt Lake. 841 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.039 Well, I'm from Finland. So I grew up in temperet 842 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:29.880 there and I played there until I was fifteen. Then 843 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.960 I went to the WHL. I played in Troy Cities 844 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:38.760 for three years, got drafted to Calgary. I played there 845 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:45.199 for multiple years, probably what three or four years, and 846 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.960 then I got to Arizona two years ago and then 847 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.079 spent two seasons with them and came over with the 848 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.679 team to Utah. So that's kind of a short version. 849 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:03.960 So I've been, uh, I'm being away from from my homeland, 850 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:08.280 Finland for for many many years now. So that's where 851 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:11.639 I started started playing hockey and grew up and all that. 852 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.320 But I've been I've been on this side of the 853 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:15.639 planet for for quite a. 854 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.599 While now you So I might be the thousandth person 855 00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.840 ask you this, but I honestly don't know. Are you 856 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.280 familiar with Lowry Marketing? And have you made contact with 857 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.559 with Lowry who obviously plays for the Jazz and is 858 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.320 a as a finished gentleman just like yourself. 859 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:36.360 Yeah. Yeah, we've kind of met in in April when 860 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.760 we came over here to visit, and we've stayed in 861 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.840 touch ever since ever since that, and we've you know, 862 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.360 seen each other a couple of times. We both have 863 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.800 a have a family now, so the whole families have 864 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.800 been kind of linked up a couple of times. We've 865 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.800 done some things, and you know, they've been to help, 866 00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.880 you know, especially at the start, kind of showing around 867 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:04.119 a little bit and telling what's where and kind of 868 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:09.039 how to handle you know, a lot of things. And yeah, 869 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.159 I mean they've been to help, and they're super super 870 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.840 nice family and definitely kind of exciting to have that 871 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:20.880 kind of connection there with not your team, but still 872 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:24.280 you know, playing sports and obviously being from Finland, so 873 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.639 that's uh, it's definitely cool. 874 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.679 Did you grow up playing any other sports or were 875 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.280 you all hockey? All all the way or did you 876 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.119 try other sports when you were younger as well. 877 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.480 I played soccer for like a summer. It wasn't really 878 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.639 my sport, so I kind of stopped it pretty quickly. 879 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.039 And I used to ski a lot. I know a 880 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.079 lot of Utah people love love that, and a lot 881 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.840 of good opportunities here to do so, so I used 882 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.599 to do that a lot when other kids fortunately not 883 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.119 really allowed to do it more, but excited to do 884 00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.679 that once I'm once I'm done at some point in 885 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:11.559 my my life. But yeah, I never really played any 886 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:16.840 other sports, I you know, competitively for for longer periods 887 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.639 of time, So I was pretty much much hockey for me. 888 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.440 I've read that you have a family member that's a 889 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.719 pro golfer. Do you ever swing a golf club? You 890 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.239 like you got to play a little golf at all? 891 00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:28.719 Yeah. 892 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:32.599 I play golf now, especially during the summer a lot. 893 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:33.800 I really enjoy it. 894 00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:38.559 It's something that, you know, kind of makes me relaxed. 895 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.320 One of those sports where you just kind of talking 896 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:47.000 or thinking only only your next shot, and kind of 897 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.719 the game of golf you kind of leave maybe the 898 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.519 outside world behind. So I I really do enjoy it. 899 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:58.880 And yeah, my cousin actually will be in that tournament 900 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:03.360 and you playing for the PGA Tour, So that's that's 901 00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:03.960 pretty cool. 902 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.159 Are you gonna head down to Saint George and check 903 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:06.719 it out at all? 904 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.880 I think that timing doesn't really work, you know, what's 905 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.159 going on the road and stuff. So I wish I could, 906 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.559 but I wish it was a little bit a little 907 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.360 bit closer to even like an hour or two drive, 908 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.960 then it would be kind of makeable. But it'll be 909 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.159 too far with the schedule that we have. But maybe 910 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.880 maybe another time. Hopefully one of these years we'll have 911 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.079 a chance to do that. Kind of same thing happened 912 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.039 last year in Arizona when he was playing at the 913 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.920 Waste Management. We were kind of we just left on 914 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.000 a road trip and had a home game there too, 915 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.480 so we kind of missed the whole tournament. But that's 916 00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:49.039 just how it is. 917 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.440 Yeah, I guess you're busy playing games and practicing because 918 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.199 you're a professional athlete, So that's kind of how it goes. Hey, 919 00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.679 I wanted to I wanted to kind of kick the 920 00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.320 ties with you on the type of players that you 921 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.840 are because you're a defenseman. You have really good size, 922 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.320 but you you have in the past for Calgary and 923 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.480 for the Arizona Coyotes scored goals and provided a lot 924 00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.119 of assists as well. So what sort of player for 925 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.639 our new hockey fans? What sort of player are you? 926 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:21.440 One of those you know, kind of two way defensemens. I, 927 00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.559 you know, I really like playing with the puck. I 928 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.800 like to, you know, get into the rush sometimes and 929 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:33.119 make them make some plays. But I think I've established 930 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.400 my game to the point where I consider myself as 931 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.960 a you know, reliable on the defensive side as well. 932 00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:43.400 For a job is to keep the puck out of 933 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.440 the nets. So yeah, but I like playing, you know, 934 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.599 two hundred good game and I kind of take bridon 935 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.039 both of those kind of areas, you know, the offensive 936 00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:56.639 game and the defensive game. 937 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.599 So I wonder, because I've asked your teammates as well, 938 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.920 this is really you So, as you know, an unprecedented 939 00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:08.320 thing in the history of professional hockey for a city 940 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.719 like ours to be able to grab a team. It 941 00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.920 isn't an expansion team that has infrastructure in place. There 942 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.199 just obviously was chaos down in Arizona. What was that 943 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.480 process like for you when you got a phone call 944 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.119 and you're like, hey, just so you know, you live 945 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.280 in Utah. Now, what was what was that? 946 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:25.480 Like? 947 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.039 Yeah, I mean kind of at the start, it was, 948 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.000 you know, a little bit of a shock in a 949 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.840 way that it's just kind of happened so quickly, and 950 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.199 it's like, you know, kind of a big decision like that, 951 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.599 it's kind of made for you, Like it's like, hey, okay, 952 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:50.079 well you guys are all moving to Utah. It's not 953 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.000 like do you have a say in it or you 954 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:56.199 have a choice to be made there. So obviously a 955 00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:00.400 little bit of a shock like that. But I think 956 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.079 what really kind of turned the corner for me and 957 00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.679 for for all of us was to visit visit down 958 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:09.519 here for those two days in April. I think that's 959 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:13.440 just when everybody, you know, realized what we're coming into, 960 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.639 how awesome it's going to be, and what a nice 961 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.519 place it is to live. I think just in that 962 00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.079 short period of time, you were able to kind of 963 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.039 get the idea of of how how nice it will 964 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.920 be down here, and I think it just made everyone 965 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.360 like excited and motivated for the summer and for the 966 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.960 season to come. So I think after you know, the 967 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:44.159 initial kind of a shock what's going on? It turned 968 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.480 into you know, excitement and and motivation really quickly. 969 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.159 Col I wonder we've heard from Bill Armstrong over the 970 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.920 weekend and Andre Torny, your head coach, about the decision 971 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.719 to make Clayton Keller the first ever captain for the 972 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.159 Utah Hockey Club. I guess down in Arizona there was 973 00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.920 not one captain. It was more of like leadership by committee. 974 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.119 So give me the reaction to locker room that Clayton 975 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.079 Keller has been named your captain. What can you tell 976 00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:10.119 us about that decision? 977 00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.440 Yeah, I mean, you know, definitely, you know, well deserved. 978 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.039 I think that's that's the guy who you know, we're 979 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:25.440 happy to follow. And you know, he's definitely a great leader. 980 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.239 He leads by example, He really cares about his teammates, 981 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.239 who really cares about you know, winning and being at 982 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.159 his best every night. And you know, I can be 983 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.079 happier that you know he's your captain, and I think 984 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:40.840 all of us kind of feel the same way. And 985 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.840 and we're ready to go to war together and him 986 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:44.719 leading us. 987 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.159 So big time edition of the offseason in your positional 988 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.920 group with Sergachev being brought in Michel, Who's won a 989 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.320 couple of Stanley Cups and still certainly is in the 990 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.480 prime of his career. You so help me understand what 991 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.239 this edition means and how it's been to well welcome 992 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.639 him into your locker room and in your positional group. 993 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.920 Yeah, I mean it's been awesome. He's a great guy. 994 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.960 Obviously knows I was probably hockey pretty well, you know, 995 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.119 even though as he's reasonably young, I think he's got, 996 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.519 you know, a lot of experience and like you mentioned, 997 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.840 he's got some cups and a lot of playoff appearances 998 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.840 and and all that, so that's valuable for us. There's 999 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.559 a lot of a lot of from from our group 1000 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:31.119 from Arizona don't don't have much of experience there, so 1001 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.760 I think that's really helpful. And and I think he's 1002 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.360 proved over his career that he can be really, uh, 1003 00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.320 you know, impactful player for for the team he's he's 1004 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.679 playing for. And I think that's what you know, we're 1005 00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.239 expecting off him, and and we know he can do that. 1006 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:53.840 And you know, obviously gated great edition on and off 1007 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.679 the ice, so we're we're really happy to have him. 1008 00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:02.159 So ultimately, there's a lot of rumor going around in 1009 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.000 the community about the permanent name of the team. I've 1010 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.400 got to ask you you, so, what is your favorite 1011 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.920 hypothetical name that you've heard thrown out there? And do 1012 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.320 you know what the what the team name is going 1013 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.119 to be when the death settle. 1014 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:17.840 No, I don't. 1015 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:22.639 I don't know anymore than than you guys do. So 1016 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.840 we're still in the guessing game game as well. But 1017 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.239 you know, honestly, I I kind of like the you know, 1018 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.880 all of them, and I don't think there's one kind 1019 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:39.320 of name that I want to throw out there. Take 1020 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.599 that as as whatever you kind of want. But I 1021 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:45.760 think it's when you look at the options. I think 1022 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.000 you can make all of them, you know, really good. 1023 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:50.960 You can put in a nice logo, you can make 1024 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.480 it with the colors, you can, you know, make a 1025 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.039 nice mascot of all that stuff. So I'll be happy 1026 00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:58.480 either way. 1027 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.239 There's not one favored that you like that you want 1028 00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.840 to throw out there, there's not one that stands out. 1029 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.679 No, I'm not gonna say mine, all. 1030 00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:07.920 Right, all right, just in case. 1031 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.719 No, that's smart, that's smart. That's the way to go. Hey, 1032 00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:15.400 we've been having this debate about who the rival club 1033 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.559 will be for you guys now regionally, Colorado seems to 1034 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.920 make sense. But they're really good and this is a 1035 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.039 new thing, and oftentimes rivalries kind of take place. I've 1036 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.719 always been of the opinion rivalries take place in playoff 1037 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.280 action or when they're really big games on the line, 1038 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:35.559 not just like regular season battles. Any thoughts on who 1039 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.159 the rival club will be for the Utah Hockey Club. 1040 00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:44.440 Yeah, I mean I think it'll be kind of dictator 1041 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:46.679 a little bit. How the games kind of start going, 1042 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:51.199 you know, the most heated matchups that we'll have against 1043 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:56.360 my might just kind of decide it for us. But 1044 00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.280 but I think kind of realistically, Colorado, like you kind 1045 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:03.960 of said, make makes probably the most sense, you know, 1046 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.760 being kind of you know, close, and both of us 1047 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.960 we have a little bit of altitude on the air 1048 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:14.079 and like just kind of like similarities in that way. 1049 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:19.079 And obviously we'll be playing against each other quite a bit, 1050 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:23.480 so that would in my head, that would kind of 1051 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.440 make sense. But I guess the games will kind of 1052 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.000 decide for us and see how it goes. 1053 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:34.760 So Bill Armstrong often talks about this this rebuild process 1054 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.599 that the club is going through and has gone through 1055 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.320 for a while, and you've been with the club. This 1056 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:42.960 will be your third year, so you've kind of experienced 1057 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.360 this rebuild. You were a part of it when you 1058 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.360 were acquired, as I believe a twenty two or a 1059 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.280 twenty three year old. So help us understand what the 1060 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.400 process you so has been like so far and what 1061 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:58.880 you guys believe the next steps are in this rebuild process. 1062 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:04.280 H Yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's something that's a 1063 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:09.760 little bit you know different, I guess, you know, in 1064 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:13.639 the last couple of years, especially kind of during the 1065 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.079 trade deadline, you know, there's been a lot of deals. 1066 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:19.960 You know, we kind of dealt a lot of guys, 1067 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.280 and that's something that's you know, a little bit difficult 1068 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:30.360 and and and hard, and you're losing your teammates and 1069 00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.719 and I you know, it's obviously we haven't you know, 1070 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.719 made playoffs or haven't like won you know, too many 1071 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.239 games like that. So I guess that's kind of a 1072 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:48.559 little bit part of it. I don't really like thinking 1073 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.639 about it in that way. I think, you know, the 1074 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:55.679 whole kind of world rebuild and and what it kind 1075 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.039 of means, I think it's more for for the management, 1076 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.719 and that's you know, obviously they have to have plans 1077 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:05.320 for for each year, but for a longer time as well. 1078 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.480 I think as a player, you just kind of want 1079 00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:11.320 to you know, you obviously want to win every single 1080 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.400 game that you're playing in at and me when I 1081 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.840 improve as a player, you want to focus on getting 1082 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.360 better and you know, not worrying about what's kind of 1083 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:28.679 happening outside of you. I've I've heard the phrase control 1084 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.280 you can control about a million times in my career 1085 00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.679 from from some wise people, and and I think that's, 1086 00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.920 you know, as a player, that's kind of what you 1087 00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.719 need to do. And I don't think you can worry 1088 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:46.480 about too much on on what's going on, and and 1089 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:48.840 you know, higher up, at the end of the day, 1090 00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.840 my job is to to play the best I can 1091 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.440 and and try to help my team win. And that's 1092 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.840 you know, what I've tried to do for the last 1093 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.599 two years. And I think all of us in the 1094 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.880 room we've had the same mind that we've you know, 1095 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.760 we we just wanted to, you know, do our best 1096 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:07.719 and and win as many games as possible and and 1097 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.199 all the rest is is kind of out of our control. 1098 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.960 But I think obviously going into the year, we are 1099 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:16.960 excited about the group that we have. You know, a 1100 00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:20.440 lot of a lot of us have kind of we 1101 00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:23.920 are the same, like you said, we have experienced, you know, 1102 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.320 a lot of stuff. So I think we are you know, 1103 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.559 all ready for to take a step forward, you know, 1104 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.800 win more and more games and and uh and really 1105 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.000 make a push and and kind of a splash around 1106 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.480 the ripe around the league. So I think we're all 1107 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.960 ready for that. We've all grown a little bit. I 1108 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:45.599 think we have, you know, the pieces to to get 1109 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:50.039 better and be better. And I think something that you know, 1110 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.199 we talk about of the group is is still kind 1111 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.840 of taking things to day at a time. You know, 1112 00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.960 there is all kinds of noise and and everything going 1113 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.119 around with you know, being a new team, every everyone 1114 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:09.280 being excited and you know, on and on. But I 1115 00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.760 think for for us as a group, what we want 1116 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.320 to do is just focus on each day, folks, on 1117 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.320 being better, you know, each game day, winning that winning 1118 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:23.039 that game, and that's what we're focused on now and 1119 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.840 tomorrow will be focused on on being in Chicago and 1120 00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:26.559 on opening night. 1121 00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.360 Oh well said, yeah, you're a pro, You've done this before. 1122 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.440 That was an excellent answer you So I appreciate your 1123 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.840 time today, best of luck tomorrow, stay healthy, and we'd 1124 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:34.480 love to do it again. 1125 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.880 All right, thank you so much. 1126 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.679 Appreciate it, alight you sav Alibaki. He's a defender. He 1127 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.639 plays on the defensive side for the Utah Hockey Club, 1128 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:46.519 but he scores goals and he provides service. So le 1129 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:50.280 be utilized in power plays, attacks, power play attacks and such, 1130 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.559 so please appreciate his time. Yeah. He has nine goals 1131 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.079 and fifty eight assists in his career, including thirty assists 1132 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.559 two years ago for the Arizona Coyotes. All right, gotta 1133 00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.000 tell you about my friends, a clear Water Distilling. It's 1134 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:05.639 the only distillery in Utah County open on Sundays. They 1135 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.559 have great spirits, they've got a tasting room and really 1136 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.760 some of the nicest people around. 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How are we doing, buddy? 1156 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:11.880 I'm doing fantastic And I got to tell you I 1157 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:12.840 missed the tailgating. 1158 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.039 Oh yeah, no, it's a great scene up there. We 1159 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:18.519 only have three Utah home games left, which kind of 1160 00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:20.320 breaks my heart. But it's been a lot of fun. 1161 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.079 Anytime you want to roll up you definitely should just 1162 00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.920 let us know, all right, So let's start here. For 1163 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.039 a while, there was a treatment in our market for 1164 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.880 a rectile dysfunction that has proven to be ineffective and 1165 00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:36.360 unfortunately a lot of listeners, a lot of people in 1166 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:38.679 the market went and tried it. They paid good money 1167 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.440 for it, and it hasn't worked for them. So let's 1168 00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:44.719 start with why your treatment for rectile this function is 1169 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.400 different than the other companies that we've had in the market. 1170 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.880 Sure, first, I'll tell you this. I actually tried the 1171 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:56.440 other treatments and it didn't work for myself either, And 1172 00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.440 that's why I went out and I met doctor Angela 1173 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.519 Peters and I met with her and what she was 1174 01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.360 offering in the you know space, if you will, with 1175 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:12.360 the stem cells regentitive, the tissues as we get older 1176 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.760 get shrinking, and so with the using stem cells that 1177 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.920 actually opens those tissues up and grows brand new blood vessels. 1178 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.559 That's why I became her partner. You know, we want 1179 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.400 to bring this to as many men as we can. 1180 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.559 You know, we have. I'm actually down in Scottsdale, Arizona 1181 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:32.440 or clinic down here, and then of course Angela, doctor 1182 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.960 Angela Peterson is up there in Salt Lake in the 1183 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:39.280 Draper area, and I tell you it works. It's different, 1184 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:42.800 it's it, treats it, it fix it. It's not a 1185 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:46.760 band aid, and the results are amazing. Like I said, 1186 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:49.519 I'm a client and I'm here to spread the word 1187 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:54.880 and please we can help. So take that plunge, give 1188 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:58.760 us a call. We'll give half off the treatment cost 1189 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:02.119 right now for those people who call today, as we're 1190 01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.039 here to help as many men as possible. 1191 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:08.960 In addition, Ken you guys can offer testosterone replacement therapy, 1192 01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.000 which I've utilized for a year with unbelievable results. Doctor 1193 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.079 Peterson has this great line. She says, you don't know 1194 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:18.559 how bad you're feeling until you actually start to feel better, 1195 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:23.519 and she just spot on. So testosterone therapy, vitality peptides. 1196 01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:25.639 I've been using those for about three or four months. 1197 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.760 They've also made a big difference just in my skin 1198 01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:32.000 and I feel better. I don't know how to put it. 1199 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:34.280 I just have much more energy and I don't have 1200 01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.360 that brain fog. How can you help our listeners with 1201 01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.280 vitality peptides and testosterone therapy. 1202 01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:43.960 A couple ways. First of all, with the testosterone we're 1203 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.800 going to do for those who call in today, we're 1204 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.519 going to do free labs. We have to do labs 1205 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.199 to check out see where your testos on levels are 1206 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.039 at in the first place, so we know the dosage 1207 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:57.800 through to prescribe. Secondly, if you do call in today, 1208 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.159 those labs are free and all so adjacent to our 1209 01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:03.800 stem cell therapy. If you sign up for that, we'll 1210 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:08.239 give you ninety days free tasostroone treatment and that's another 1211 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:09.440 nine hundred dollars value. 1212 01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.400 Geez, I wish I signed up today, but I have 1213 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.559 a hugelized it a year ago. All right, all right, 1214 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.280 there you go. Guys. Here's the number that I didn't 1215 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.639 know they were doing that today. That's actually a steal, 1216 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.320 So call them immediately at three eight five four five 1217 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.719 eight nine two zero three. That's three eight five four 1218 01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.199 five eight nine two zero three. 1219 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.519 If you like beer and hockey, then you'll love the 1220 01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:37.119 new release from Epic Brewing Company Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger. 1221 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:41.039 This delicious seven point five Imperial Logger is now available 1222 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:44.039 in sixteen ounce cans at Epic Brewing and Utah State 1223 01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:46.920 Liquor Stores. Beer and hockey two good things that go 1224 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:50.320 great together. Come celebrate the new Utah Hockey Club and 1225 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:54.440 pick up cold, full strength beers, including Utah hipcheck Icelagger 1226 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.639 at Epic Brewing, located at eight twenty five South State. 1227 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:01.079 All Right, we got Scott Mitch rolling by in about 1228 01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:04.199 thirty minutes from right now, former Utah quarterback for all 1229 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.840 the latest on Utah football, as it is game week 1230 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.840 once again for the Utes after a bye, b Yu 1231 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.760 after a bye as well. But it's an historic week 1232 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:14.639 in our community for a couple of reasons. We have 1233 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.599 pro golf back in town down South and Saint George, 1234 01:03:18.199 --> 01:03:22.039 but we have the NHL making its debut tomorrow night 1235 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.199 in Salt Lake. I'm still laughing and shaking my head 1236 01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.679 every time I say that as a child in the Northeast. 1237 01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:29.760 And our next guest from Epic Brewing, we got Ryan 1238 01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:31.559 and we have Gus. Gentlemen, how are we doing? 1239 01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:34.199 Doing pretty well? How are you doing today, good man? 1240 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.679 Appreciate you coming in a studio so Gus, I understand 1241 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.239 that it's not surprising you look like a hockey player. 1242 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:40.039 Heke you. 1243 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:41.400 Yeah, I'll take that as a compliment. 1244 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:45.320 It is a compliment your stouts. Let me guess you're 1245 01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:46.559 not a defenceman. 1246 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:48.519 Right, no, no, guess by the height. 1247 01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:50.920 Sorry, I didn't want to say it out loud, but 1248 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.239 you're not tall enough to be a defenceman right attacking player? 1249 01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.760 You winger? Yep, exactly, that knew it. Who's your favorite 1250 01:03:57.800 --> 01:03:58.320 hockey team? 1251 01:03:58.559 --> 01:03:58.840 Ooh? 1252 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:01.559 I mean now, it's got to be Utah Hockey clab. 1253 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.880 It's gotta be hands down but grown up. It was tough. 1254 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.119 I kind of bounced around from team to team, didn't 1255 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.480 really have a team to align with until just a 1256 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:10.199 couple of months ago. 1257 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:11.239 So I'm stoked. 1258 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.760 So I'm trying to think, does Bountiful High have a 1259 01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:14.320 hockey team? 1260 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:15.159 They do? 1261 01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.320 I actually when I grew up in Bountiful, I played 1262 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:21.800 for Viewmont because they didn't have a ah. 1263 01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.079 They hated the Viewmont's like Bountiful's rival. Isn't there some 1264 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.000 woods Cross these days? I can never keep up. 1265 01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:27.519 I don't know. 1266 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:29.559 I think when I was at Viewmont it was Davis 1267 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.039 more than Bountiful or woods Cross. 1268 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:32.320 Oh okay, yeah, I kind of bounced. 1269 01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.039 Okay, right on, good old Davis County people. Love my 1270 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.719 Davis County people. Okay, Ryan, let's dig in here. Hockey 1271 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.519 is here now, and you guys at Epic are obviously 1272 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.719 prepared want to remind folks, let folks know coming up tomorrow, 1273 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:47.920 I'm gonna be on remote at Epic. It's right on 1274 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:50.960 State Street. It's eight twenty five South State. Check out 1275 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.760 their website which is Epic Brewing dot com. But if 1276 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:56.119 you like beer and hockey, and it seems like a 1277 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.000 lot of people like beer like hockey, and I can 1278 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.440 tell you most people will like hockey like beer, Yeah, 1279 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:04.159 tell us about this new hip Check Ice Imperial Lagger. Yeah. 1280 01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.440 Yeah, So this is a brand new beer from Epic. 1281 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.840 It really it was Gus's brain shot when we found 1282 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:10.159 out the hockey team was coming here. 1283 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:11.920 Gus is like, we got to do a hockey beer. 1284 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:12.320 Yeah. 1285 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:16.039 And one of the owners of Epic, also Peter, he 1286 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.880 still plays hockey. He's grew up playing hockey. He's still 1287 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.480 in like an old man like hockey league. So it 1288 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.119 really fits with Epic. But yeah, we've got a new beer. 1289 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.440 It's called Hipcheck Ice Imperial Lagger. It's a seven and 1290 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:31.320 a half percent Crystal Clear light lagger beer. You can 1291 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.800 definitely catch a buzz off of it. Great beer a 1292 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.159 pregame with. It's pretty simple. It's not a really really 1293 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.719 crafty beer. It's light it's easy drinking, it's crisp, it's 1294 01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.280 a good one to drink cold. And I don't shure 1295 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:44.880 we open one up. 1296 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.480 Yeah, crack it open. And also seven and a half 1297 01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.760 percent is enough that you know what you're doing, but 1298 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:51.599 it's not too much where you're gonna be, you know, 1299 01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:53.679 feeling it a little bit the next day. So you 1300 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.559 landed on a good percentage. Is that fair to say? 1301 01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.239 I'd say it's a pretty good number, but yeah, you 1302 01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.920 can definitely it's a little bit stronger than your sure. 1303 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:04.920 So so, Gus, what was the process like creating this 1304 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.800 new beer as far as the tie with hockey? Like 1305 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.079 what tell tell me the origin story, how you came 1306 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:10.800 up with the idea. 1307 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.719 Yeah, I mean, actually, I was probably listening to you 1308 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.280 when I heard the news that we were getting the 1309 01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:17.320 hockey team officially. 1310 01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.079 And we do a meeting every week. 1311 01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:26.360 We've got all spectrums of the brewery in their sales, brewers, sellerman, 1312 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.960 front house, back house, everybody's in there. And I said, hey, 1313 01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:33.000 you guys, look look at the news. Look what's happening 1314 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.599 in Salt Lake. Let's do something to celebrate this. So yeah, 1315 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.559 from there, our head brewer took took the reins and 1316 01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:43.440 decided that he wanted to roll with a lagger, something 1317 01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:46.800 nice and easy drinking to go well with a with hockey. 1318 01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.880 So, honestly, I'm completely unfamiliar with the process. I've got 1319 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.199 a couple of buddies that are like amateurs, right, they 1320 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.920 get the home thing, they do the home brewery situation. 1321 01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.280 Never really that good, but they try, they try hard. Right, 1322 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:03.079 what's the process start to finish? Like, take us through. 1323 01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:04.840 What's it like to create a craft beer like this? 1324 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.000 Yeah, clue, you probably no better than I. 1325 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.199 Yeah, you know, Gus and I were both on the 1326 01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:13.679 sales side of things, but really, I mean, first you 1327 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.119 come up with the concept, you know, like what kind 1328 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.280 of beer do you want? And for this, we wanted 1329 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.519 a beer there was a little bit stout, a little bit, 1330 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.000 but a little bit on the lighter side also, and 1331 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:24.519 I mean. 1332 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:26.400 If you take a look at it, it's it's crystal clear. 1333 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:28.920 It actually is probably one of like the lightest looking, 1334 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.800 like clearest we have, and it's yeah, it's definitely a 1335 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:38.960 true logger. And we wanted a beer that we thought 1336 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.840 maybe like old school hockey players would like to drink, okay, 1337 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:44.760 And we came up with this where it's a little 1338 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.000 bit stout, it's super light. You know, it drinks like 1339 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.679 a beer drinkers beer. I just kind of beer flavored beer, 1340 01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:51.199 you know, Like, what do you think beer tastes? 1341 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:51.400 Like? 1342 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.800 Like it's this and we're really excited about it. I 1343 01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.320 actually haven't really had a chance to like bring home 1344 01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.400 a couple of cans of beer and really like snuggle 1345 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:01.199 up and dive into it. 1346 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:03.280 I think tomorrow night I'll probably be that. 1347 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:03.480 Well. 1348 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:06.039 It's always interesting to me because it seems like and 1349 01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.679 you guys are the experts, so I'm going to make 1350 01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:09.960 an observation. You tell me if I'm wrong. It seems 1351 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:13.159 like there's this race to make the best IPA or 1352 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.239 the best like triple ipa, and sometimes it tastes like 1353 01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.279 dish soap or like treat bark right, so. 1354 01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:22.640 Maybe more so your homebrewer friends, I feel like stuff 1355 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:22.920 a little. 1356 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:25.720 Is that kind of the scene right now? It feels 1357 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.239 like IPAs have taken over the past five or six years. 1358 01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:29.119 They've really kind of. 1359 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.079 Oh yeah, you know, IPAs have taken over. There's kind 1360 01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.119 of an evolution. I feel like to drinking beer. Though 1361 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.319 you start drinking beer, I don't know when you're younger, 1362 01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:39.199 you drink really light beers. You kind of like graduate 1363 01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:41.920 to drinking IPAs and dark stouts and things like that, 1364 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.239 and then as you like really mature into beer drinking, 1365 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.800 you kind of fall back to these light logger beers. 1366 01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:49.600 There's a lot of nuances to them, and yeah, they're 1367 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.000 really tasty drink. I find myself drinking a lot more 1368 01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:53.520 light beer these days, as long as you. 1369 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:55.399 Don't go back to going to seven getting the twenty 1370 01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.600 four pack of like Natty Ice. Yeah, you don't really 1371 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:58.279 go back there. 1372 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.520 No, you fall back to like the fans here, like 1373 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.760 the nighter, like you know, classic like logger beers. 1374 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:04.279 Let me follow up with you, Ryan, because I mentioned 1375 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:07.319 this earlier. You guys have always from my vantage point, 1376 01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.880 it's always It's always seemed to me you're at the forefront, 1377 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.279 right You're the first to figure out how to offer 1378 01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:16.119 beer on Sunday. You're the first offer you know, an 1379 01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.479 ipa of this. It seems like you guys have been 1380 01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:20.880 kind of pioneers in our Now there are a lot 1381 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:23.479 of breweries that have popped up, but I was mentioning 1382 01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:25.199 to you off air, you guys were like the one 1383 01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.279 spot to go to on Sundays before other spots opened up. 1384 01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:31.359 What's it about Epic that seems to be on the 1385 01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:34.399 forefront of beer creation in our market. 1386 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:37.279 I mean that's kind of what Epic Hell Epic started. 1387 01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.880 I mean, we wanted to be creative, we wanted to 1388 01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:43.159 make beers you couldn't get in Utah. It's hard to remember, 1389 01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.000 but ten fifteen years ago, I mean, there were some 1390 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.279 good breweries here you went to as your wassatch was here, 1391 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.920 but really as far as like craft beer came, was like, 1392 01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:53.680 there wasn't a lot. And Epic came out and started 1393 01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:56.720 making like really really creative beers, and then the breweries 1394 01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:58.439 around here, I feel like, kind of up their game. 1395 01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.520 And now there's like all sorts of breweries around here 1396 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:02.079 that are making great stuff. But we try to be 1397 01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.560 cutting as you know, we're always trying to be on 1398 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:06.199 top of it and trying to be like ahead of 1399 01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.439 the game a little bit and just trying to be creative. 1400 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.600 And it's it's fun and it. 1401 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:13.359 Does feel like I was in Denver last year and 1402 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:15.199 I always do the thing that we all do, like 1403 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.680 compare Salt Lake to Portland or Denver like cities in 1404 01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:22.239 our region and Denver has a real thriving you know, 1405 01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:25.680 that downtown area where there are breweries like next to 1406 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:27.439 each other, stacked on top of each other for like 1407 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:31.079 four or five blocks. Maybe we'll get there at some point. 1408 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.119 But how have you seen this scene kind of grow 1409 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.079 since you got involved in our marketplace? It's much different, 1410 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:38.359 isn't it? 1411 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:38.600 Yeah? 1412 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:40.960 Yeah, Oh it's amazing. How good, Like there's so many 1413 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:41.800 good breweries around here. 1414 01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:43.399 I mean, shot, got how many brewers you think there 1415 01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.960 are within walking distance of like where we are now? 1416 01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:47.520 Like eight? 1417 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.520 Yeah, there's there's probably at least eight, and I think 1418 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:54.479 there's two or three more if you include siders coming 1419 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:55.159 up as well. 1420 01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:56.199 So yeah, there's a lot. 1421 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.680 It seems like there's a bunch down where like west, 1422 01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:01.439 like little West, there's like a little. 1423 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:04.000 Kind of southwest Salt Lake City. Yeah, there's breweries all 1424 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.720 over the place. It's great. I mean bike tours, walking tours, 1425 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:09.039 like you can hit a ton of breweries. It's almost 1426 01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:11.560 better than Denver for what it is, you know, because 1427 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.960 they're they're consolidated into a into a smaller place. Yeah, 1428 01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.039 I don't know. We like Salt Lake City better than Denver. 1429 01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:19.399 You know, it's easy, sure, sure. 1430 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:22.399 Sure, that's why. So Gus is Colorado? Is that going 1431 01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:24.520 to be our rival? The Avalanche? That is the hockey 1432 01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:25.800 club rival going to be the Avalanche? 1433 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.840 Yeah, I think that's the go to rival. Yeah, that 1434 01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:28.479 only makes sense. 1435 01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:30.800 They're really good this year though, right, they're always good 1436 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:31.399 as of late. 1437 01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:34.279 Yeah, for sure. All right, Ryan, tell me about you 1438 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.840 brought a couple of other Definitely check out Epic Brewing 1439 01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:39.960 dot com. If you like beer in hockey, you're gonna 1440 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.359 love the new release. It's called Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger. 1441 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.840 It's a seven point five percent Imperial lagger. But it 1442 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.439 doesn't taste like a seven point five percent. That's the 1443 01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:52.279 other thing. Sometimes when the content's a little high. Yeah, 1444 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:53.920 take a sip and it's biting you right away. It 1445 01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.279 doesn't taste like it's a seven point five percent. Yeah. 1446 01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:56.680 Is that fair? 1447 01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.399 Super fair? This thing's real easy drinking, And that was 1448 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.560 kind of the point. We wanted something easy drink in there. 1449 01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:03.079 Maybe you could catch a buzz off of it if 1450 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:03.560 you wanted to. 1451 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:05.880 So the address is eight twenty five South State Street. 1452 01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:07.560 I'm gonna be down there tomorrow from two to six. 1453 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.439 Come hang out. Prior to the hockey game. I'm going 1454 01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.800 down to the hockey game after my remote, so come 1455 01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:16.199 hang out, have a beer, and pick up a free 1456 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:17.079 hockey puck. 1457 01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.000 Ryan tell us about it. Yeah, we've got some epic 1458 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.119 branded hockey pucks. We're given away to anybody that stops 1459 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:25.680 by and comes in to hang out. Actually Wall supplies last. 1460 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:26.600 We don't have a ton of them, but. 1461 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:28.720 Then they're cool. They got the epic logo and you 1462 01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.399 know it is a hockey puck. So before I say 1463 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.079 you lose, tell me about these other other beers you 1464 01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:32.399 brought in. 1465 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.439 Yeah, we brought a couple of seasonal beers down. We 1466 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.800 have our Munich Mayhem october Fest beer. So it's not 1467 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:40.319 anything to see the label here, but it's kind of 1468 01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:42.720 got like a German like punk rock theme. Very nice, 1469 01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:45.800 super fun beer for the fall time. It's a logger beer. 1470 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:47.720 It's a little bit different from the hip check where 1471 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.199 it's a amber colored lagger, so it's got a little 1472 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:52.840 little bit more malt flavor to it. 1473 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.319 And then Gus, we talk about the other beer we 1474 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:56.720 brought down. 1475 01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:59.680 Yeah, chair sure, Yeah, we brought our Imperial Pumpkin Porter 1476 01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:03.199 as well. It's definitely porter first with the pumpkin and 1477 01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.600 spice flavor coming in second. So it's not going to 1478 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.079 be like your Starbucks pumpkin spice latte. It's gonna be 1479 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:12.840 much more subtle. The pumpkin really compliments the porter base. 1480 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.720 Very nice, very nice. All right, gentlemen, Well, thanks for 1481 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:19.039 coming in and I will see you both tomorrow to remode. Okay, 1482 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.520 all right, my guys Russ, Ryan and Gus excuse me 1483 01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:25.800 for effort brewing. I'm gonna be down there tomorrow night, 1484 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:28.920 tomorrow afternoon before the hockey game at night. It's eight 1485 01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:32.600 twenty five South State Street. Website is Epic Brewing dot com. 1486 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.119 It's a brand new beer. It's the Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger. 1487 01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:38.880 It's a seven point five percent Imperial Logger. Saints Chiefs 1488 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:42.479 tonight at six o'clock Mountain Time from Arrowhead. Get hear 1489 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:44.960 that game on our radio station right after we say 1490 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.520 good night at six o'clock. You'll hear from Coach Wit 1491 01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.359 in the five o'clock hour if you missus. Media availability, 1492 01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:55.079 all the latest on Isaac Wilson, under center, Cameron Rising, 1493 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.359 his health. But it's time now to bring in former 1494 01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:01.479 Utah quarterback, former NFL quarterback. Always a pleasure to catch 1495 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:03.880 up with Scott Mitchell. Scott, Happy Monday, sir. How are 1496 01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:04.199 we doing. 1497 01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.720 I'm doing wonderful. I felt like last weekends college football 1498 01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:14.000 was Oprah Winfrey giving the top fifteen teams losses. You 1499 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.039 get a loss, and you get a loss, and you 1500 01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:19.039 get a loss. It was like everyone who is important, 1501 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:23.239 including Alabama, loss this weekend. It's crazy weekend in college football. 1502 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.199 Yes, certainly, and it feels like Scott, let's start with 1503 01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:28.760 this from a macro standpoint, if we can look at 1504 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.359 this as good news for Utah fans, there will be 1505 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.920 multiple teams in the CFP that have multiple losses and 1506 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.239 not just one and two, maybe even three and four. 1507 01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:41.520 With the way this stuff is going. Would you agree 1508 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:42.720 with that statement as of now? 1509 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:48.039 Yeah, I mean it's weird because most of the conferences have, like, 1510 01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:52.840 you know, sixteen teams, fourteen sixteen teams, and so they're 1511 01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:55.439 not necessarily all playing each other. Maybe these teams are 1512 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:58.319 playing harder teams now because they know, hey, I can 1513 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.319 have a couple of losses and still make get in 1514 01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.680 the college playoffs. Maybe it's nil. Maybe the talent is 1515 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.319 just spreading around the country and there's more parody. I 1516 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.800 mean I'm sure there's a lot of factors that go 1517 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:12.479 into this because you don't really feel like, Okay, there's 1518 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.720 just one team. You know, maybe it's Texas, maybe it's 1519 01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.199 Ohio State that are the best teams in the country, 1520 01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:23.279 but beyond that, you know, it certainly is pretty wide open, 1521 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:25.359 which should give you a hope. You get in the 1522 01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:27.840 playoffs and you go, look, we don't have to beat 1523 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.239 this team every week, but we can beat them one week. 1524 01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:33.520 And everyone's kind of proven that that they can at 1525 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:37.239 least lose at one time, and that that's that's kind 1526 01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:40.359 of exciting. It's something that will be fun to watch 1527 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.760 it and it can be very competitive. But as far 1528 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.399 as it relates to Utah, man, you got you gotta 1529 01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.039 you gotta be a little bit relieved. You got to 1530 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.119 feel like, okay, hey we you know, we kind of 1531 01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.239 screwed it up in our game against Arizona. But look 1532 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:56.359 at Alabama, I look at some of these other schools 1533 01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.520 and and the reality is is it's it's it can 1534 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.840 happen to anyone, and it really can. I mean, I've 1535 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:06.039 seen this at all levels and all teams. They just 1536 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.239 have at tonight when it's just not their night. 1537 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.720 So game week for the Utes, Friday night, it's a 1538 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.760 late kick fan duel has Utah's a six point five 1539 01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.159 point favorite, even though they're on the road. The line 1540 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.399 opened up Utah minus five, and it's gone the way 1541 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:22.159 of the Utes a couple of different times. Let's start 1542 01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:24.720 with this, though, Scott. Over the weekend, I talked to 1543 01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:27.600 somebody up on campus and Coach wait just alluded to 1544 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.760 this in his media this morning. This is not set 1545 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.920 in stone, but I'm told that there is a field 1546 01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:38.560 that if Cameron can't go on Friday and it's Isaac again, 1547 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:40.920 that they're getting close to just giving Isaac that job. 1548 01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:45.239 Give me your take on that, because for me, I 1549 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:47.399 still believe for them to win the Big twelve, Cam 1550 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:49.680 has to be under center. And it's not Isaac's fall 1551 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:52.000 these eighteen he's a freshman, just enrolled in school. But 1552 01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:56.600 Friday night, you're calling the game, and if the first 1553 01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.439 team OH runs out and it's Isaac Hunter center center 1554 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.119 and not Cam, do you feel like we're inching closer 1555 01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:05.239 and closer to the day where Coach Waiting coach a 1556 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:06.880 lot and those guys just need to give Isaac the 1557 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:08.279 job and just roll with the young kid. 1558 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.680 Well, if that's the case, then this injury is much 1559 01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:16.760 more significant than we think, and it hasn't appeared like 1560 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:21.439 it it is. Watching Cam he looked terrible warming up 1561 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:25.560 against Oklahoma State and looked better against Arizona. I would 1562 01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:30.600 be really surprised if he doesn't play on Friday. He clearly, 1563 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:35.720 from experience, from ability, you know, gives Utah the best 1564 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:41.000 chance to win, you know, if he's healthy. But if 1565 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.560 it is Isaac and if they do start going that direction, 1566 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:48.840 it's one of those you know, it's like, no matter 1567 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:50.960 what with a young quarterback, you're just gonna get good 1568 01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:54.279 and bad. Like so last week against Arizona, the bad 1569 01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:58.800 part was the team is is not. It's kind of 1570 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.920 like in a far and a veteran quarterback will kind 1571 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.920 of rally the troops and Cam Rising would rally the troops, 1572 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.119 and Cam Rising would say, Okay, we've got to go 1573 01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:10.600 win this game in the second half or win this game. 1574 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.399 And there were plenty of opportunities in the second half 1575 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.239 for that to happen, and it just didn't. It's just 1576 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:20.000 it's like the young quarterback team just kind of accepted 1577 01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:22.279 its fate and they just they just weren't able to 1578 01:18:22.319 --> 01:18:26.640 get anything going. And that's just youth and that's inexperienced. 1579 01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.600 And that game against Arizona is the perfect example of 1580 01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.079 when you need a Cam Rising. So you're going to 1581 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:35.399 go through more of those times. You know, if Isaac 1582 01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:39.079 does play, hopefully you'll see that, Okay, go win a 1583 01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:43.439 football game mindset from him moving forward when they really 1584 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.399 need it, because the quarterback is the is the biggest 1585 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.840 difference maker in college football. And that's that's what Cam 1586 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.600 Rising was. I mean, there were so many times he 1587 01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.359 made incredible plays and it was just Cam Rising making 1588 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:58.399 plays through the years when Utah won back twelve championships 1589 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.720 and it was him going out and winning football games. 1590 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.720 And and that's a guy who's a leader, who's confident, 1591 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:09.399 who is mature, who's who's ready to do that. You know, 1592 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.960 freshman right out of high school, that maturity level just 1593 01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:16.840 isn't quite quite there. So you're if you go with Isaac, 1594 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:19.680 you're just going to have ups and downs and and 1595 01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:21.680 hopefully you just see progress. And if you see a 1596 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:24.119 lot of progress and you go, that's really exciting because 1597 01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:27.560 you get you take your lumps for a year with Isaac, 1598 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.680 but then you have three you know, two or three years, 1599 01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.600 however long he stays in school, whatever he does, then 1600 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.000 you have a lot of time with him. Where where 1601 01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.720 you're going to have that mature quarterback, you're going to 1602 01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.039 have that difference maker, and that's huge. It's huge to 1603 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:43.439 a team and it's hard to kind of go through 1604 01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.800 those pains as a team with a young quarterback, but 1605 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:48.680 it can pay dividends down the road. 1606 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.479 At what point, Scott, in your opinion, to somebody who 1607 01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.359 played the position, and you know, put yourself, I suppose 1608 01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.720 in the shoes of both Cam and Isaac, at what 1609 01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.159 point do you think the right time is to just 1610 01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:04.479 give Isaac the job? Is it Friday? If Cam's not ready, 1611 01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:06.920 do you still wait? I mean, part of me believes 1612 01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:09.000 that whenever Cam's ready, he's got to be back on 1613 01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:10.960 her center, even if that's not for another three or 1614 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:13.720 four weeks. Then the other side of me believes that 1615 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:16.560 Isaac probably if he's going to be the guy needs 1616 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:18.399 the reps with the ones period and if it's going 1617 01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:20.800 to be his job, then let's just move on with it. 1618 01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:22.239 What's your opinion on that? 1619 01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:27.119 Oh man, it's a hard you know, there's an argument 1620 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:29.000 that you know, you don't lose your job because of 1621 01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:32.359 an injury. There's some coaches. Bill Belichick just went away 1622 01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:36.840 from Drew Bledsoe, who was a phenomenal quarterback. I mean, 1623 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.560 he was one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL 1624 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:40.760 when he was benched for Tom Brady, who was kind 1625 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:44.479 of a seventh round nobody. And for a lot of time, 1626 01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.119 I think a lot of people go, Okay, well, Drew 1627 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:48.239 Brett so when he comes back, is going to be 1628 01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.319 the guy, and it just never happened. And I think 1629 01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.079 so much of it is a coach just making a 1630 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:56.760 decision on who's the guy that gives us the very 1631 01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:01.800 best chance to win historic Earl Morale comes in for 1632 01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:06.039 Bob Greasy and you know, leads the Dolphins to a 1633 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:09.840 perfect regular season and then gets benched in the playoffs, 1634 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.840 and Greasy wins the Super Bowl for him. So you know, 1635 01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.000 maybe it is a combination of both of those things. 1636 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.319 But I'm more like you. I really think you go 1637 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:21.000 with the guy with the most experience to give you 1638 01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:26.199 the best chance to win today, and developing is really 1639 01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:28.600 for teams that are not very good, right, and this 1640 01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:31.439 Utah team, as you point out in the beginning, has 1641 01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.279 a shot to go to the playoffs and it's anybody's 1642 01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.800 game there. And I think that's something that really should 1643 01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:40.119 be the ultimate goal for this Utah team is we 1644 01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:42.199 got to win today. We got to win now. We've 1645 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:43.840 got to put the best players on the field that 1646 01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:45.000 give us a chance to do that. 1647 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:47.920 Here comes the most obvious statement in the history of 1648 01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:50.560 sports talk radio. If you're a quarterback, you need a 1649 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.600 healthy hand. If you're a kicker, you need a healthy foot. 1650 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:56.800 So there it is. But Scott is somebody who played 1651 01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.479 the position. Help us understand the mechanics of why it 1652 01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:01.840 is so Allen Jane for Cameron to get the zip 1653 01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.039 back with an injury like he has to his hands 1654 01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:04.640 and his fingers. 1655 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.079 Yeah. See, I've kind of gone the rounds with this. 1656 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:13.880 And you know, some guys have shoulder injuries or other 1657 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:18.359 injuries and and you know, separations and they're able to play. 1658 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:21.359 I had. I had a third degree shoulder separation on 1659 01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:25.039 my throwing shoulder when I was playing for the Miami Dolphins. 1660 01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:28.159 And I came back after five weeks and my arm 1661 01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:31.199 was a rag. But I was like, I don't care. 1662 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:33.640 I want to play and help our team. You know, 1663 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:35.640 we were one of the top teams in the NFL 1664 01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:37.960 at the time, and and I had a chance to 1665 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.439 go be a free agent, so I was highly motivated 1666 01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:44.520 to play. When you have those injuries, it's just it's 1667 01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:49.239 it's kind of an individual thing. Like some guys, some 1668 01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:52.720 guys are really good at tolerating pain, like like there, 1669 01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:55.239 their pain threshold just really good. And other guys are 1670 01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:58.800 kind of wooses. And it's just like and and and 1671 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.279 you can't pay who they are, you know, It's just 1672 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:04.760 it's almost a personality thing. It's almost just how we 1673 01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:09.079 kind of deal with with pain. I know myself, I 1674 01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.159 know a lot of guys played with a lot of pain, 1675 01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.239 and I'm sure that that that's happening here. I don't 1676 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:17.239 know that Kim probably this year, will ever get to 1677 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.760 where his hand is totally free. But to me, those 1678 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:26.800 two fingers, your middle finger, your your ring finger. You know, 1679 01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:28.840 I don't know that they have you know that they're 1680 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:32.600 the most important thing that you have. But when you're 1681 01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:36.239 when you're a highly trained athlete, a football player, at 1682 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:40.520 least for me, the slightest variation in something could really 1683 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.319 throw things off because you're so acutely attuned to your 1684 01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:47.079 body and you know how it functions, and and you 1685 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:50.000 feel so many things, and you know, just a slight 1686 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.439 variation on your wrist when you release a pass changes 1687 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:57.800 its trajectory, you know, and you don't you almost subconsciously 1688 01:23:57.880 --> 01:23:59.960 do it, you know. So there's just these really fire 1689 01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:03.800 things that happened that that could easily be thrown off. 1690 01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:08.279 I would imagine it would affect him, but I would 1691 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:10.720 also know that when you get out in a game 1692 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:13.319 and you get that adrenaline flowing, it just you kind 1693 01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:14.840 of throw it all out the window and you just 1694 01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:17.439 you deal with the pain after the game's over. 1695 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.720 So ultimately, as you know, you can't simulate a game, 1696 01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.560 right And so if if Cameron's cleared, are you expecting 1697 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.319 some Russ to start? Does he have enough experience under 1698 01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:30.359 his belt that he should be good to go, or 1699 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:32.760 you know, after taking a few weeks, not taking a 1700 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:36.279 few weeks, after missing a few weeks via injury. What's 1701 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:39.479 a reasonable expectation for Cam should he be under center 1702 01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:40.439 on Friday night? 1703 01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:45.079 Well, Cam, Cam's game has always been he's mobile. He 1704 01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:48.720 makes a lot of plays with his legs, and that's 1705 01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:51.359 that's the biggest thing that's you know, you just don't have. 1706 01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:54.359 You just don't have game shape. You know, there's there's 1707 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:56.119 a thing they just called it. He's in game shape. 1708 01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:58.960 You may be in physical great condition, but there's a 1709 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:01.640 different condition to a game. And the only way you 1710 01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:04.840 get that is by having games. I mean, that's part 1711 01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:08.159 of why they have the non conference games, preseason games 1712 01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:10.840 in the NFL, so that when you hit the regular season, 1713 01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:15.239 you've had enough game experienced tempo to where okay, I'm 1714 01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:17.680 ready for it. And it does. It takes. It takes 1715 01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:19.960 some time when you've been out. I mean he's been out, 1716 01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:22.840 I don't know almost you know, a season and a 1717 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:26.000 half now and that and that's that's hard. I mean, 1718 01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:30.239 the experience, you know, riding a bicycle, thing that's there, 1719 01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.880 but the physical nuts is not. And and it's an adjustment. 1720 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.920 It's you can get by a lot on your savvy 1721 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:41.039 and your experience and your especially with what I think 1722 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:42.760 this team is, because I think there's a lot of 1723 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:47.279 good players that just haven't been totally assimilated into things. 1724 01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.159 Because you have a young quarterback and you know, money 1725 01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.000 parks and the tight ends and some of these other 1726 01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:56.079 wide receivers are just not quite getting the same touches 1727 01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:58.800 that I think they would if Cam was in there, 1728 01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:01.359 and you can kind of rely on those guys more 1729 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:04.760 than you rely on your legs and as you're kind 1730 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:08.119 of getting into game shape. But the leadership, the savvy, 1731 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:11.640 I would take that, with the rust and the and 1732 01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:15.319 the maybe not having game condition just yet. 1733 01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:19.880 So Scott, it's safe to say, and the data says 1734 01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:23.359 as much that the offense you know, with Isaac has 1735 01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:25.279 just has it hasn't been good enough. And of course 1736 01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.960 it's not all on him, and it's hard to put 1737 01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:30.359 any of it on such a young kid who enrolled 1738 01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:33.680 in April. But one hundred and eleventh in red zone, 1739 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:37.359 one hundred and thirteenth and third down conversion? Are these 1740 01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:41.359 problems alleviated instantly when Can comes back? And attendant to 1741 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.239 the question is in the meantime, as long as it's Isaac, 1742 01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:47.039 what can be done to make this offense look a 1743 01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.039 little bit more efficient starting Friday night? 1744 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:54.079 You know one of the things, well, let's just take 1745 01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:57.239 the red zone to start with. The red zone is 1746 01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:01.079 easier to score the further you're out, So maybe from 1747 01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:05.000 like the twenty to the maybe the twelve, take your 1748 01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:08.119 shot in the end zone because they still have to 1749 01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:11.359 cover the field and it's easier to get those throws 1750 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:14.880 into the end zone. It's one way and we used 1751 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.720 to do it all the time in the NFL, and 1752 01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:18.960 there's certain coverages you can almost predict to be one 1753 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:22.079 hundred percent when teams get in the red zone. And 1754 01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:24.159 so if you get that coverage, you really like it 1755 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:27.079 and you take your shot, you know, twenty yard line, two, 1756 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.760 about the twelve, thirteen then and then like last week 1757 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:32.560 where they got to the nine yard line, which is 1758 01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:34.880 a kiss of death, like first and goal from the nine, 1759 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:37.760 it's the longest you can go without getting a first down. 1760 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.359 Where Utah has done really well in the past, even 1761 01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:44.319 with Cam Rising, is they've run the football and you've 1762 01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.359 got all these tight ends and all these people, and 1763 01:27:47.399 --> 01:27:50.000 it's like just this is big boy power football. This 1764 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:52.640 is who you are Utah. You know, make a commitment. 1765 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.520 If you're right there, just run it. Don't try to 1766 01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:59.199 because it's so hard to throw in those tight situations. 1767 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:03.319 And it's it's it's amplified by ten when you're a young, 1768 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:07.640 inexperienced quarterback like you just don't know and or if 1769 01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.720 you're going to throw the ball to Caleb Loaner understand 1770 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.880 how how to utilize where his asset is and that's 1771 01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:16.399 throw the ball high. But it's not it's not that 1772 01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:19.560 simple because in a game situation, you've got all the 1773 01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:22.079 stuff coming at you and and you throw it too 1774 01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:24.600 soon or throw it in accurately. You've got to really 1775 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:27.720 be a little bit patient and let him get position 1776 01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:30.720 and then throw in the football. And that just takes time, 1777 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.880 It takes practice, it takes talking to but whatever you do, 1778 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:37.840 like be committed to it. It just felt like Utah 1779 01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:40.079 was kind of, well, we'll try this, we'll try that, 1780 01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:43.119 we'll try we'll kind of try all these things. And 1781 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:46.159 they're just a little bit better when they you know, 1782 01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:48.960 they like take your shots the end zone, further out, 1783 01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:51.159 run the ball when you get close, throw the ball 1784 01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:53.199 up the kick cause it's it's it's a real weapon 1785 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:56.359 that they haven't totally utilized with Caleb B. Loooner. And 1786 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.880 then the third down, third down, believe it or not, 1787 01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.399 that is kind of easy. You got to win on 1788 01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:06.279 first down. You win on first down, So whatever the 1789 01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:08.720 defense is giving you, and a lot of Utah is 1790 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:12.039 getting kind of this pressure look on early downs. So 1791 01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:14.239 if you've run the ball, or throw the ball, whatever 1792 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:18.840 you do, succeed on first down, because then you make 1793 01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:21.840 third down short. If you ever get to third down, 1794 01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:23.720 and then there's a lot more you can do. You 1795 01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.760 can you can throw the ball, you can run the ball. 1796 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:28.840 You can run the ball if it's third and short, 1797 01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:32.279 run the ball again on fourth and short. But it 1798 01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:34.880 just makes it a lot easier. The percentages go in 1799 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:36.840 your favor if you win on first down. 1800 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:41.239 So, if it is Isaac on Friday, what sort of 1801 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:43.840 game plan are we expecting. You've talked a lot during 1802 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:46.760 this interview about just stick to your identity and commit 1803 01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:49.720 one way or the other. Are we going to see 1804 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:53.840 Coach Love maybe continue to give Isaac more space? Do 1805 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:56.960 you look at what happened against Arizona and reel the 1806 01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.479 playbook back to simplify it, to maybe just run the 1807 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:02.640 football more and look like a football team? Who's head 1808 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.479 coaches Kyle Whittingham. If it is Isaac on Friday, what 1809 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:08.079 do you think the offensive schematic attack looks like? Scott? 1810 01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:12.319 So usually in bye weeks you kind of look and 1811 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.600 you go, who are we? What's our identity? Who? What 1812 01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:17.279 are we known for? We're tough, We're physical, we're going 1813 01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:20.960 to run the football, and I would I would anticipate 1814 01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:23.159 that's what Utah's You know, we've got to stop the run. 1815 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.760 Arizona State it's a very good run team, So you 1816 01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:27.399 got to stop the run. You got to run the football, 1817 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:29.359 and that that's that's where it's going to focus. And 1818 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:34.119 so everything offensively plays off of the run, and that 1819 01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:37.159 means play action. But if you're going to run the football, 1820 01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:40.600 you better expect that they're going to bring pressure the 1821 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.479 run pressure, They're going to put more guys in the 1822 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:46.199 tackle box than you have there to block, and so 1823 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:49.039 you've got to have answers to that. So you do 1824 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:53.199 get that win on first down because teams know if 1825 01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.399 we can stop Utah on first down, we pretty much 1826 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.720 are going to lock them down and so that first 1827 01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:01.800 down becomes huge. So bringing in the extra blocker or 1828 01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:05.479 bringing in more tight ends on early downs play action. 1829 01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:10.279 There's a lot of throws that Utah has, especially to 1830 01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:13.079 the tight ends in the short to intermediate area on 1831 01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:19.239 early downs that have always been a really large component 1832 01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:21.960 of this team. So I would expect seeing a lot 1833 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:23.279 of that. And the other thing I haven't seen a 1834 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:28.760 lot of is wide runs. You knows where's de John 1835 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:32.279 Stanley or Money Parks on these sply sweeps and these reverses, 1836 01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:36.600 because there's so much of the run has been straight 1837 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.239 ahead into the inside, and maybe you'll see a little 1838 01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:41.920 bit more of that as it goes forward, but everything. 1839 01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:44.960 If I'm a betting man, which I'm not, but if 1840 01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:47.560 I was, I'd say that's what Utah probably would do. 1841 01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:52.199 Tell me what you've seen from Isaac when he throws 1842 01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:57.399 his ironts. Because statistically, one hundred and thirteen FBS quarterbacks 1843 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:01.239 have less than seven picks. Isaac is right there when 1844 01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:04.840 it comes to the national rankings with seven interceptions. It's 1845 01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:07.720 never on one person or the other. Are you seeing 1846 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:10.920 bad decisions? Are you seeing broken routes? Are you seeing 1847 01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:12.239 a rushed young quarterback? 1848 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:12.359 What? 1849 01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.520 Scott, from your trained eye do you see when Isaac 1850 01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:16.439 throws the picks? 1851 01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.520 So a lot of it is you predetermined in your 1852 01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:26.000 head where you're going. You've practices play all week in practice, 1853 01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.439 and you've just always thrown it to this guy and 1854 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:30.920 for whatever reason, the defense and you just don't have 1855 01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:34.359 enough game experience to know, well, they changed the coverage 1856 01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:36.600 on you. So you've got to see what they've changed 1857 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:39.399 and you've got to adjust accordingly. And so a lot 1858 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:41.479 of the throws, a lot of the interceptions have been 1859 01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:45.520 kind of uh, he's predetermined in his head where he's 1860 01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:50.000 going with the football before the play actually happens. And 1861 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.800 and that's and and all quarterbacks have done it. I'm 1862 01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:56.960 guiltiest charged too, h where you have to see the 1863 01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:00.199 play when when it actually develops. And then the other 1864 01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:02.039 thing is, you know, you're in high school and you 1865 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:05.560 can get away with certain throws and and here at 1866 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:09.079 this level, there's there's you just can't. And you're also 1867 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.239 in an offense. In high school, he throw ball fifty 1868 01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:13.560 million times. It's like if you throw an interception or two, 1869 01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:16.000 it doesn't matter because you're gonna throw a whole lot 1870 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:20.439 more more touchdown passes than that. And so there's there's 1871 01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:24.119 been a little bit of a cavalier casual attitude about 1872 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:25.880 some of the throws, and a lot of those have 1873 01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:29.560 been down in the red zone where you're you're just 1874 01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:34.199 you're not seeing what's really going on, and you're you're 1875 01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:36.760 you're you're not making the clents row and so it's 1876 01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:40.000 so much about you have to see the picture as 1877 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.279 it unfolds. You can't predetermine anything in your head and 1878 01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:46.239 then you just react off of that picture and that 1879 01:33:46.239 --> 01:33:49.640 that comes through practice and repetition and experience and time. 1880 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:52.680 But a lot of his a lot of his interceptions 1881 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:57.319 could be avoided and and and probably will in the future. 1882 01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.279 If they don't, then then he's not your guy because 1883 01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:02.840 if a guy can't learn from that and grow and develop, 1884 01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:05.239 then you can't really trust that guy to be on 1885 01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:07.359 the field and not throw interceptions. 1886 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.399 All right, Scott, before I say you lose, the Arizona 1887 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:13.640 narrative leading into the game last Saturday was they wanted 1888 01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:16.760 to make it a get right game after getting trounced 1889 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:19.479 by k State. They had to buy and then they 1890 01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:21.880 rolled into Rye cycles and they had to get right game. 1891 01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:25.119 In the Scott Mitchell opinion, a get right game for 1892 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:27.920 Utah on Friday night looks like what. 1893 01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:34.079 Well, you know, when you have a bye week, sometimes 1894 01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:35.560 you go, oh, we don't want to have a bye 1895 01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:39.000 week because we'reun a roll. In another case like what 1896 01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:40.960 happened to Utah. Now we need a bye week so 1897 01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:44.359 we can get back into rhythm. And I'm going to 1898 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:46.600 go back to what I said earlier that a get 1899 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.279 right game for Utah. Stopping the run and running the 1900 01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:53.279 football and everything else. This has been a Kyle Whittingham staple. 1901 01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:56.199 I swear he says it to himself every night before 1902 01:34:56.199 --> 01:34:57.760 he goes to bed and when he wakes up in 1903 01:34:57.800 --> 01:34:59.600 the morning. We're going to stop the run and we're 1904 01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:01.960 going to run the football. And that's who he is 1905 01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.199 and that's who this team is. And you go back 1906 01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:09.920 to those basic things about playing aggressive, keeping it simple, 1907 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:14.520 letting guys fly around the field and just react and 1908 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.760 just go play, come off the ball, and just just 1909 01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:21.640 kind of knock them in the teeth. That physical play 1910 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:24.640 is what Kyle's been really known for, and that, to 1911 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:26.720 me is what it will take for this team to 1912 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:28.000 kind of get back and get right. 1913 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:32.439 So are we talking double digit win? Are we talking 1914 01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:34.439 cover the spread? Are we talking get the hell out 1915 01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:36.720 of Dodge with a win? What does it look like Friday? 1916 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:40.600 Well, it's always you know, win. But you've got to 1917 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:44.000 be explosive offensively in this league, in college football in general, 1918 01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:48.359 the rules, the way everything is. If you can't score 1919 01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:52.399 thirty points in a game, I don't believe Utah's defense 1920 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:56.359 is is dominant enough to just hold people down and 1921 01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.079 win those close ones. So you got to you gotta 1922 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.439 score if you score thirty points. So you can still 1923 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:06.439 run the football and score thirty points. It's not five. 1924 01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:14.199 Mike drop from Scott, little dialtne action. It's all good. 1925 01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:15.920 It's all good. We got to get a break anyway. 1926 01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:19.800 Appreciate Scott's time. Utah football is back this week. Our 1927 01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.720 pregame coverage on Friday will begin at four thirty, so 1928 01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:25.159 it'll make our show here on the afternoon a little short. 1929 01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:28.560 Then Porter will take care of you. 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How are we doing. 1962 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:05.319 Doing great? 1963 01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:05.680 Ben? 1964 01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:06.159 How are you? 1965 01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:10.680 I'm well, I'm well, so simple first question, are you 1966 01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:13.560 guys ready? As I told you a few months back, 1967 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.680 I had the very very fortunate opportunity to play the 1968 01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:20.319 track and check out the resort, And as I walked 1969 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:23.760 into the makeshift club house you guys had in the trailer, 1970 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.439 there's a sign that said don't worry, We'll be ready 1971 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:29.119 or something like that. So now that it's here, are 1972 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:30.359 we ready to roll? Patrick? 1973 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.560 We are rolling. We had the Monday pro am today 1974 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:35.640 and I talked to I. 1975 01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:39.000 Don't know thirty forty of the players that that have 1976 01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:42.199 been out on the course, and I think the most 1977 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:43.600 common words out of their. 1978 01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:47.399 Mouth is I had no idea, meaning that the resort 1979 01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:51.640 is just unbelievably nice. The course is an unbelievable shape. 1980 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.720 I even sent some photos, aerial photos off to the 1981 01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:58.800 PGA tour and they said they didn't believe they were real. 1982 01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:03.800 Yeah, and I can believe that even if. Yes, someone 1983 01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:05.840 who's lived in the state for twenty five years, I've 1984 01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:09.199 never quite seen anything like it. So now we know 1985 01:39:09.560 --> 01:39:12.399 the field. The field has been released, we were waiting 1986 01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:14.720 for quite some time to try to figure out who 1987 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:17.520 we were going to see down in Saint George for 1988 01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:20.239 the Black Desert Championship. I wonder if you could take 1989 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:22.640 us behind the scenes on the work you guys did 1990 01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:25.680 to try to attract golfers to come down to Saint 1991 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:28.119 George and your reaction now that the field is finalized. 1992 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:33.279 Well, I mean, I we didn't do a whole lot 1993 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.800 other than we you know, we had Mike Weir and 1994 01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:40.399 Zach Blair and Patrick Fishburne and some other guys that 1995 01:39:40.439 --> 01:39:43.399 were out really telling everybody, hey, this is this is 1996 01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:44.039 a no joke. 1997 01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:44.720 This is like a. 1998 01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.920 World class golf course. And but we didn't do a 1999 01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:50.000 whole lot more. The folk we wanted to accomplish in 2000 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:52.479 this first year is going to get a great field, 2001 01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.479 which we have, but then really just show the world 2002 01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:58.720 how beautiful this area is, how fantastic the course is, 2003 01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:02.039 what a game change of a resort, Black Desert Resort is. 2004 01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:06.199 And then like I'm going, Tim West is like the 2005 01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:08.479 player whisperer, and he was out there today and he 2006 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.239 just said, Patrick, this is this is the nicest place 2007 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:12.960 I've seen, Like it is the best. 2008 01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.720 He's like, these guys are talking in you know, I 2009 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:18.359 was talking to him yet last night and player dining 2010 01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:21.319 and he's like, they're all whispering, Like we had no 2011 01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:22.880 idea this was gonna So that's all we want to 2012 01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:25.479 accomplish is how these guys have a great time, treat him, 2013 01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:28.720 treat him really well, and then in year two, let 2014 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.359 they're like pack in a great field. This year we're 2015 01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:32.720 gonna have We're gonna have a great time. 2016 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.199 We have a great field. We're just gonna build upon it. 2017 01:40:36.319 --> 01:40:38.239 I wonder I know a lot of people up here, 2018 01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:40.319 and every time I would talk about it on the show, 2019 01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:42.439 get a lot of messages like, is there any chance 2020 01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:45.960 Tony's gonna play? Can well Tony fen out play? He's 2021 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:48.520 not in the field, Patrick, Can you shed some light 2022 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:52.960 on any potential conversations that took place. Where was there 2023 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.000 a chance that we were gonna see Tony this week? 2024 01:40:55.039 --> 01:40:55.439 Down there? 2025 01:40:57.079 --> 01:40:59.039 There was a chance he was trying to work some 2026 01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:01.520 things I've been really I gotta I gotta take my 2027 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:05.800 hat off to him. In the end, he had promised Drace, 2028 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.760 his son, who's going to be playing in his first 2029 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:14.239 national tournament. The same week as our tournament, and he's capping. 2030 01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:17.640 He's the captain, and so he's just like Patrick, I 2031 01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:19.920 can move all the other things, but I just can't 2032 01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:22.119 tell my son, never mind, I'm not going to captain 2033 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:23.960 your first your first national tournament. 2034 01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:28.079 Well, that's entirely understandable, and as you know, that's completely 2035 01:41:28.079 --> 01:41:32.960 on brand for who Tony is, right, absolutely, yeah, all right, 2036 01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:37.119 So a really cool story. And you know, a couple 2037 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:39.840 of our local TV stations went down to interview jay 2038 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:43.439 Don Blake, and I can't imagine Patrick, what it must 2039 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:47.880 be like for a Saint George boy to start his 2040 01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:52.920 five hundredth PGA Tour tournaments in his own backyard. I mean, 2041 01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:55.479 he was crying when he received the news he was 2042 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:58.479 getting the sponsor exemption. Talk about this dynamic, pretty cool 2043 01:41:58.520 --> 01:41:59.319 story down South. 2044 01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:02.760 Yeah, this is the type of stuff you can't even 2045 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.960 make it up. Like you said, he grew up as 2046 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.039 a little boy here playing in the parks because he 2047 01:42:07.079 --> 01:42:11.399 couldn't afford the golf course, and his mom drove him 2048 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:14.359 around to tournaments eventually, and they slept in their car 2049 01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:17.560 and got cleaned up in gas stations, and you know, 2050 01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:20.880 as you know, he became an incredible golfer and four 2051 01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:24.640 hundred and ninety nine tour starts is just an amazing accomplishment. 2052 01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:27.760 But he tried for ten years at Monday qualifiers. He 2053 01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:30.680 tried every he wrote letters asking for exemptions, and he 2054 01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.760 just couldn't get his five hundred and he had given up. 2055 01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:38.399 And us bringing the Black Desert Championship to Southern Utah 2056 01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:40.960 right in his backyard, literally only a couple of miles 2057 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:43.239 from where he grew up, that was just too good 2058 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.920 of a story to pass up. So I surprised him 2059 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:49.159 with a sponsor's exemption for him to get his five hundred. 2060 01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:51.199 He's gonna start that just here in a couple of 2061 01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:51.640 days on. 2062 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:54.840 Whole One, Patrick, I have the forecast pulled up for 2063 01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:57.000 this week, and just so you know a little breaking news, 2064 01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:59.319 it's gonna be warm. It is going to be very 2065 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:04.920 hot down there. Yeah, I wonder what sure? Sure? And 2066 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:08.000 you know, like ultimately we're gonna blink and there's gonna 2067 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:09.560 be snow up here and it's not gonna be as 2068 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:12.319 warm down there. That's the deal. But are there any 2069 01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:14.920 unique challenges that the heat brings for you guys this 2070 01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:16.439 week as you're putting on this tournament. 2071 01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:19.319 Uh no, not really. 2072 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:19.840 I mean. 2073 01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:24.920 We're unfortunately having to overwater a little bit early on, 2074 01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:28.560 so the greens have gotten they slowed up a little bit, 2075 01:43:28.920 --> 01:43:31.159 but we're gonna turn the water off and firm them up. 2076 01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:33.039 And it was just a little bit more, a little 2077 01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:35.359 bit more work, but no big deal. 2078 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.079 So enlighten me on because we've been talking about this 2079 01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:41.680 a little bit. Do you have a five year commitment 2080 01:43:41.720 --> 01:43:42.279 from the tour? 2081 01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:42.439 What? 2082 01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:45.159 Obviously it's great to have it this year, but it's 2083 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.399 not going anywhere for a while. Is that correct? 2084 01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:49.319 That's correct? 2085 01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:52.399 Yeah, we we intend. When I say we, I'll stand 2086 01:43:52.439 --> 01:43:56.439 the PJ Tour intend to do this like for decades. However, 2087 01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:59.279 we have to have a contract term. The contract term 2088 01:43:59.359 --> 01:44:03.560 to begin with four years. They were willing to go 2089 01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:06.720 seven to start with. It's kind of a long story. 2090 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:09.359 We didn't want they didn't want to change title sponsors 2091 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:12.319 during a contract term, and we didn't want to commit 2092 01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:15.039 to being the title sponsor for seven years. So we said, okay, 2093 01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:18.600 let's do a four year contract and revisit because you know, 2094 01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:22.359 it's expensive to throw these things on and walking away 2095 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:25.319 from title sponsors means we're putting in a whole bunch 2096 01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:27.640 of millions to put to pull this off every ear. 2097 01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:31.880 So what have you learned throughout this process? You know? 2098 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.319 So moving forward over the next three years, I'm not 2099 01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.239 going to say you can do it better because I 2100 01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:37.880 don't know how you're going to do it. We're going 2101 01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:40.359 to find out this week. But you know, the first 2102 01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:42.880 time you do anything, it's hard. First time I sat 2103 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:44.840 in front of a microphone. I'm sure I was horrible 2104 01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:46.880 at this. Some people probably tell you I'm still bad 2105 01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:49.600 at it. But the first time you do something, it's 2106 01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:52.720 not easy. This is your first experience. What are some 2107 01:44:52.800 --> 01:44:54.119 of the lessons you guys have learned? 2108 01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:56.039 You know. 2109 01:44:56.159 --> 01:44:58.600 I got to say we are really fortunate. We have 2110 01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:03.279 an amazing tournament director, John Coolbaugh. We have an amazing 2111 01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:06.239 set of consultants that run every year for the last 2112 01:45:06.319 --> 01:45:09.920 ten twelve years the Farmer's Insurance Open at Tory Pines. 2113 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.640 Their whole team is here, and we have a lot 2114 01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:16.039 of supportive people who have been doing this for years 2115 01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:17.479 and years at the highest level. 2116 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:22.119 And so I feel like we're pretty dialed in year one. 2117 01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:25.039 I think the PJ Tour said this is looking like 2118 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:27.840 a year three tournament. In year one, so good job, 2119 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.039 and so I think everything's pretty smooth, but we're gonna 2120 01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:33.199 find out there might be a few hiccups. And I 2121 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:36.079 can probably answer that question better post mortem than I 2122 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:37.760 can before the tournament gets going. 2123 01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:40.640 For sure. I don't suppose you'd be so bold this 2124 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:42.680 to give me your pick to win the thing, will you? 2125 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:45.680 I don't mind doing that. 2126 01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:47.640 I'll roll out Patrick Fishburn. 2127 01:45:48.319 --> 01:45:51.000 Ah, Patrick Fishburn, very nice, very nice. Well, Hey, I 2128 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.399 appreciate the time. Anything else you want our listeners to know, 2129 01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:54.800 Patrick before I set you loose. 2130 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:59.520 Oh one more story I think a juxtaposition to Jayden 2131 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:04.439 Blake getting his five hundreds. We have Key Akina that's 2132 01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:07.760 in the field as a sponsor exemption, and I. 2133 01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:09.439 Love this story. 2134 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:12.079 He's eighteen years old at Lone Peak High School. He's 2135 01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:16.840 a number seventh ranked junior in the world. And I 2136 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:20.560 was sitting with he and his dad Alan over lunch 2137 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.359 and I said, I said, Key, how many PGA tournaments 2138 01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:25.920 have you been to? And his dad then and said, 2139 01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:27.840 he has been begging me to take him to a 2140 01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:31.920 PGA tournament since he was five years old, and I 2141 01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:34.720 pulled him every single year at KYA. The first time 2142 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:37.079 you go to a PGA tournament. You'll be playing in it? 2143 01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:41.119 Oh wow, is eighteen years old, never even been to 2144 01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:42.119 a PGA tournament. 2145 01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:45.479 Oh that rules. That rules well obviously for me as 2146 01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.199 somebody who's really learned to love this game. I'm thrilled 2147 01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:51.840 for you guys and appreciate the efforts to bring PGA 2148 01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:54.399 Tour golf back to the state. Wish I could be 2149 01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:57.119 down there. My day job calls. Maybe one day I'll 2150 01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.600 have more control over my time, but I appreciate your time. Patrick, 2151 01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:00.319 good luck this week. 2152 01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:02.800 Okay, thank you so much. 2153 01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:05.880 All right, Patrick Manning and the managing partner. As the 2154 01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:09.520 Black Desert Championship descends upon Saint George. The Black Desert 2155 01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:13.199 Resort starts on Thursday, rolls through Sunday, marks the return 2156 01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.239 of the PGA Tour to Utah for the first time 2157 01:47:15.279 --> 01:47:18.279 in more than sixty years. Tickets are available at Black 2158 01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:21.399 Desert Events dot Com. You can also follow them on 2159 01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:26.640 Instagram at Black Desert Championship is where you find them. Dissidents, Right, 2160 01:47:27.359 --> 01:47:29.520 I get it right, there we go. See, I'm a 2161 01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:32.720 man in my mid forties, you're almost obligated. Well, a 2162 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:34.960 white guy in his mid forties, you're almost obligated to 2163 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:36.760 know about Pearl Jam, whether you like it or not. 2164 01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:40.279 Great band, seeing him in concert multiple times. Favorite band 2165 01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:45.600 of Quinn Snyder. Little known trivia for you if you 2166 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:48.399 ever are at the bar doing trivia and the question 2167 01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:51.279 is what is Quinn Snyder's favorite band? Or who is 2168 01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:54.640 Quinn Snyder's favorite band or whom? What's the right way 2169 01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:57.000 to say that? Who? Who? What? 2170 01:47:57.239 --> 01:47:59.000 I want to say whom, but I don't know if 2171 01:47:59.039 --> 01:48:00.880 it's correct because it's the it's a band. 2172 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:02.840 It's not like a. 2173 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:06.880 Single either way. You get the Larry Christovac too, Larry Kuskovac, 2174 01:48:07.159 --> 01:48:10.319 great basketball, Larry Quinn. 2175 01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:11.680 Me. 2176 01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:13.800 Who else is a Pearl Jam? 2177 01:48:13.880 --> 01:48:17.199 Yeah? Great basketball minds and enjoy Pearl Jam. Yeah, it 2178 01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:18.880 was a tree over there, Like you can walk into 2179 01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:21.720 the jazz practice facility there were jamming. Look, Quinn is 2180 01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:23.479 from outside of Seattle. 2181 01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:25.479 Right, And that's the Larry connection as well. I believe 2182 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:27.960 he knows one of those guys like really well, it 2183 01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:29.920 grew up with him from childhood. 2184 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:31.560 So there's the connection. 2185 01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:33.880 Well, the only thing you need to know is my 2186 01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:36.720 fantasy football team is about to go in five. Yeah, 2187 01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:39.359 it's bad. It's a bad scene and I'm like, I 2188 01:48:39.399 --> 01:48:41.840 built a dynasty. I usually win the league or finished 2189 01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:44.239 top three, and I might not make the playoffs this year. 2190 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:46.680 Every empire falls at one point. 2191 01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:49.560 But well said, this is kind of like the Pats falling. 2192 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:53.359 I've been, you know, the Belichick Brady Pats in this league. 2193 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:54.800 Right now, I'm the Jets. 2194 01:48:54.920 --> 01:48:56.760 It's bad speaking of the Jets. 2195 01:48:56.920 --> 01:48:59.600 No, no, no, we don't need to do anything about 2196 01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:01.840 the Jets today. No, what do you want us to? 2197 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:03.960 Go ahead? Your Cowboys got a lucky win, so go 2198 01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:05.039 ahead and say something about that. 2199 01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:06.560 I think the Jets start Tyrod. 2200 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.720 I like Tyrod Taylor. I always have and I'm not 2201 01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:14.439 a fan of throw a Rogan. He's done, it's over. 2202 01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:17.199 I know I'm being somewhat facetious there. You don't turn 2203 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:19.479 away from Rogers right now, but yeah, I've I've been 2204 01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:22.199 very consistent on the fact that you're turning towards a. 2205 01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:27.840 Forty year old who he's forty. I'll just leave it 2206 01:49:27.840 --> 01:49:28.079 at that. 2207 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:28.600 My team. 2208 01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:29.079 That's enough. 2209 01:49:29.119 --> 01:49:33.520 Pooka and Nakua Toua Tongua Baila for she Rice, Joe Mixon. 2210 01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:35.239 I could keep going. 2211 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.399 You built a team that should have been fairly good, 2212 01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:42.199 but that's how football happens, as we saw last year 2213 01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:42.640 with the youths. 2214 01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:45.399 My first overall pick number Nobody gives a rip about this, 2215 01:49:45.640 --> 01:49:48.000 but it's making me sad and this is a safe space, 2216 01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:50.840 so I have to let it go. My first pick 2217 01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:54.359 was Tyreek Hill. I wanted the compound to a Tyreek 2218 01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:57.600 relationship to it goes down. Tyreek has been horrible, Pook 2219 01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:01.039 has hurt, Nixon's missed a couple of weeks. I started 2220 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:04.680 tray sermon this week and I believe cam Akers and 2221 01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:07.239 they both scored touchdowns, because that's you know, when you 2222 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:12.199 like we were talking earlier coach with Yankee Fan, great 2223 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:16.520 football mind me, same thing. So I know how to 2224 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.359 maximize the waiver wire. But as a result of drafting 2225 01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:21.319 players that didn't want to stay healthy, I am screwed. 2226 01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:24.039 And what's the percentage you think on starting zero to 2227 01:50:24.079 --> 01:50:27.319 five and then getting to the postseason? 2228 01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.640 Not high, it's low, It's very low. I don't have 2229 01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:32.399 the data in front of me. Maybe we'll get our 2230 01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:36.960 PFF guys on it, but I'm I'm in serious trouble. 2231 01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:39.800 And missing the playoffs makes you really sad when everyone 2232 01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:42.239 else is, you know, in the playoffs going back and forth. 2233 01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:44.359 Especially the NFL, like half the league makes the playoffs. 2234 01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:45.800 Now I don't. You don't have to rub it in, 2235 01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.039 but yes, we have a ten team league and eight 2236 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.199 teams make the playoffs. And I may be out. I 2237 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:52.760 may be one of the two teams that doesn't make 2238 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:53.279 the playoffs. 2239 01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:54.880 You may sneak in at that point. I don't know 2240 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:57.039 if your roster holds up at the end. 2241 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:01.079 We shall see, we shall see, right, Monday Night Football 2242 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:03.439 comes away coming up next, should be a good one. 2243 01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:06.039 Kansas City's a five point favorite over New Orleans in 2244 01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:09.199 the in arrowhead, so she'd be a good one. You 2245 01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:11.760 have playoff baseball tonight. Me and coach Witt will be 2246 01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:15.079 chairing for our Yankees. Texting back and forth about ASU film. 2247 01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:17.520 It's not a big deal. It's my Monday Night Porter. 2248 01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:19.039 What comes our way? On a Tuesday show. 2249 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:22.520 On a Tuesday edition of the program, Pablo mastro any 2250 01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:26.079 coming off of a weekend where oursel did get a 2251 01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:29.479 few points. Spencer Hall stops by the program, of course, 2252 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:31.760 talking some college football with him. We'll give you our 2253 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:35.800 big twelve power poll. John Wright, of course, talking some 2254 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:39.960 PGA tour. We're gonna have a golf guest almost every day, 2255 01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.840 maybe every day this week, depending on how it fills out. 2256 01:51:42.840 --> 01:51:46.960 And then of course Dave Fox joins us on a Tuesday. 2257 01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:50.279 Two pelotons too. I means I will be down at 2258 01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.439 the Delta Center tonight for the Utah Hockey Club Chicago 2259 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:57.279 Blackhawks game. We are going to do five questions with 2260 01:51:57.359 --> 01:52:01.000 Spence from the arena. So excited for that. Come join 2261 01:52:01.039 --> 01:52:04.439 me at Epic tomorrow on State Street for our remote 2262 01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:06.840 and then have a couple of beverages. If that's not 2263 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:09.239 your thing, grab some food, come hang out, then walk 2264 01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:10.520 over to the game with us. We're going to go 2265 01:52:10.600 --> 01:52:14.640 see history in Salt Lake City tomorrow night. That'll do 2266 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:17.600 it special. Thank you today too, you so Vallamachi as 2267 01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:21.039 well as Scott Mitchell and Patrick Manning, our good friends 2268 01:52:21.079 --> 01:52:23.960 from Epic Brewing. Little Coach with media availability for you 2269 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:26.319 to sound you may miss from the show. Go to 2270 01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:29.399 the website. 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