Speaker 1: All right, what is going on? It is drivetime on
Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon, about twelve minutes past the hour of
Speaker 1: two o'clock. Another beautiful day, man. Our fall weather has
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Speaker 1: I care about the environment. I alsill care about my
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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. I hope you had a great weekend and
Speaker 1: are off to a great start to your work week.
Speaker 1: And we are back at it for college football here locally,
Speaker 1: it's game week for Utah. It's game week for BYU
Speaker 1: kay Austin college football over the weekend, which, as we'll
Speaker 1: talk about today, is actually good news for both Utah
Speaker 1: and BYU for different reasons. I tell you why. Today
Speaker 1: on the show, also the latest on the health of Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know you're sick of it. I know you're tired
Speaker 1: of it. But the latest on the health for Cam Rising,
Speaker 1: who will be under center for Utah as we're back
Speaker 1: at it coming up on Friday night against Ask You
Speaker 1: and Fox Big Noon Kickoff, Urban Meyer, Matt liinerd Brady
Speaker 1: quinn All who have complicated relationships with BYU fans will
Speaker 1: be in provo coming up this Saturday. So Joe Klatt
Speaker 1: Gus Johnson on the call. We're going to try to
Speaker 1: get Gus on the show this week. Good friend of
Speaker 1: the show, Gus Johnson. Known Gus for a long time.
Speaker 1: He is excellent people and one of the best in
Speaker 1: the business. So we'll try to get him on this
Speaker 1: week to preview the weekend ahead in college football. Also
Speaker 1: low key chaos in the NFL. Over the weekend. Your
Speaker 1: pro football weekend will clumbin eight tonight with some Monday
Speaker 1: Night football. We are your home of the NFL in
Speaker 1: this market here on ESPN seven hundred, so you will
Speaker 1: get some Monday night football tonight and then that's it.
Speaker 1: Only one game tonight at Saints Chiefs from Arrowhead, Kansas City.
Speaker 1: A five point five favor that over Runners forty three
Speaker 1: point five, which feels low, but scoring is down in
Speaker 1: the NFL unless you're a fan of the Ravens and
Speaker 1: the Bengals. What a game that was. Get to some
Speaker 1: NFL takeaways on the show today. It's a historic week
Speaker 1: if you are a fan of sports in the state
Speaker 1: of Utah. If you're part of the ecosystem of the
Speaker 1: sports scene here in the state of Utah. We have
Speaker 1: NHL hockey arriving officially in our market tomorrow. The Chicago
Speaker 1: Blackhawks are in town for an eight o'clock Mountain time.
Speaker 1: They'll drop the puck, as they say, at eight o'clock.
Speaker 1: That game is actually on ESPN, so you can watch
Speaker 1: it on on ESPN tonight. The Jazz actually do host
Speaker 1: the Rockets. In a little preseason action, the Utah Jazz
Speaker 1: some care of the New Zealand Breakers on Friday night
Speaker 1: and they're off to a one to oh start in preseason.
Speaker 1: The end, RSL picks up a point on the road.
Speaker 1: Santose won Noil Diego Luna with a great strike with
Speaker 1: his left boots, catching the posts, going in RSL getting
Speaker 1: all three points on the road over the weekend and
Speaker 1: therefore locking in a top four seed in the MLS playoffs,
Speaker 1: meaning we have home playoff soccer in our market coming up,
Speaker 1: which for some of you may not move the needle.
Speaker 1: For a lot of you, it probably does. For me,
Speaker 1: it does because it's a lot of fun and we'll
Speaker 1: see who the opponent is. As of now, it feels
Speaker 1: like it's going to be Houston. Yeah, Yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: we're at. So a lot to do. How about a
Speaker 1: little wild Card baseball? Little playoff baseball? The Alds not
Speaker 1: Wildcard Divisional Series is where we're at. The Guardians and
Speaker 1: the Tigers so are going out of right now scoreless
Speaker 1: in the top of the second Royals and the Yankees
Speaker 1: will get going about five thirty eight Mountain time on TBS.
Speaker 1: So busy time. So not only do we get hockey
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow, but PGA Tour golf returns to our
Speaker 1: state for the first time in over sixty years. Black
Speaker 1: Desert Championship taking place in Saint George that starts on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Our very own Ja Don Blake. One of the coolest
Speaker 1: stories coming out of this thing. Part excuse me, Saint
Speaker 1: George resident who is about to make his five hundred
Speaker 1: start on the PGA Tour and he'll do it in
Speaker 1: his backyard at the Black Desert Championship. Really cool. Did
Speaker 1: a couple of specials on him over the weekend on
Speaker 1: some local TV and just a really cool thing. So
Speaker 1: a lot to do on the show. Good guest list
Speaker 1: for you guys, as we are wont to do every
Speaker 1: Monday during the college football season. If you miss coach
Speaker 1: Wits media availability today, that's going to come your way
Speaker 1: right out of the gates, because it's important I think
Speaker 1: to hear what Kyle had to say today about a
Speaker 1: bunch of different issues that are currently going on both
Speaker 1: in and around the Utah football program. Coach what was
Speaker 1: asked about injury policy? Does he want uniform reporting across
Speaker 1: the landscape at college football breaking news? He does? And
Speaker 1: what's the latest hunder center and what are his thoughts
Speaker 1: on ASU the opponent coming up on Friday night? You so, Valimachi,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that correctly. I believe I am
Speaker 1: Utah Hockey Club to get you ready for the hockey
Speaker 1: match coming up tomorrow. We're gonna visit with my buddy
Speaker 1: Ryan from Epic Brewing, former Utah quarterback Scott Mitchell, and
Speaker 1: Patrick Manning to talk a little Black Desert Championship. He's
Speaker 1: the managing partner. He's been on the show before and
Speaker 1: he has the ability to get free time tea times
Speaker 1: at Black Desert, so I am happy to have him
Speaker 1: on the show as much as he would like to
Speaker 1: join us. So I'm gonna let you hear from coach
Speaker 1: wit you so Valamachi from the Utah Hockey Club, little
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell, little Patrick Manning, Me, Spence Jackets, all of you,
Speaker 1: the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson. More caught
Speaker 1: off guard with the chaos in college or pro football
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Both leagues had, and I say leagues intentionally.
Speaker 1: Both leagues had crazy, crazy games over the weekend.
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, You're not wrong.
Speaker 3: More cut off guard, I would say with the NFL,
Speaker 3: just because I don't expect the NFL to be as wild.
Speaker 3: College football, to me is so unpredictable based on as
Speaker 3: you mentioned, availability, based on week to week. You just
Speaker 3: don't know really what you get with a roster full
Speaker 3: of eighteen to twenty two year olds in this current
Speaker 3: landscape of the sport. So I think it was more
Speaker 3: caught off guard with the chaos on the pro side
Speaker 3: of things. But I think that's what's lovely about football
Speaker 3: is that I wasn't really caught off guard by any
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, I loved it.
Speaker 3: But chaos is kind of what you start to expect
Speaker 3: when it gets into October November. That's just football, and
Speaker 3: it's what We're here for and can't wait for what
Speaker 3: should be even more chaotic in the coming what month
Speaker 3: to six weeks leading up to conference titles in the
Speaker 3: college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: We're halfway done, man, I've said every year, We're halfway done.
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Speaker 1: So we're back out of this week. We're back at
Speaker 1: it with both Utah and BYU. Pretty rare where both
Speaker 1: teams have a bye. Both teams are gonna have two
Speaker 1: buys this year. The first buy now behind us and
Speaker 1: now Utah football back out of coming up on Friday night.
Speaker 1: It is an eighth thirty kick against Arizona State at
Speaker 1: Mount America Stadium down in Tempe. Our pregame coverage will
Speaker 1: begin at four thirty, meaning the Drive that day will
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a short show and then
Speaker 1: I'll hand it over to Porter. Game time. Weather as
Speaker 1: of now is ninety five degrees in Tempe, even though
Speaker 1: it's a thirty mountain time, so it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: hot night as it always is down there. And Utah
Speaker 1: at this point, even though they were idle, they did
Speaker 1: move up in the poll and the AP poll as
Speaker 1: a result of the chaos that happened in college football
Speaker 1: over the weekend that we're going to get to in
Speaker 1: a moment. Utah is a three point favorite as of
Speaker 1: right now, okay, and so the line has oscillated a bit,
Speaker 1: but as of today, if I'm seeing the right line,
Speaker 1: I think I am BYU is a three point favorite.
Speaker 1: For BYU side of things today, pretty excited announcement as
Speaker 1: Fox Big Noon kickoff is coming to Provo coming up
Speaker 1: on Saturday for that BYU Arizona game, which is a
Speaker 1: really big game for a lot of different reasons. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that. That's a two o'clock Mountain time kick.
Speaker 1: And BYU is a three point five point favorite as
Speaker 1: we sit here today. So a couple things here over
Speaker 1: the weekend. We probably should have known because on Friday, Houston,
Speaker 1: who has not even looked like a serious football team,
Speaker 1: went down to TCU got it done. First upset of
Speaker 1: the weekend. Probably time to start talking about Iowa State
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. They're the highest ranked the Big
Speaker 1: twelve team as of now. Bring them young at second
Speaker 1: West Virginia goes to Stillwater, and I said, after Utah
Speaker 1: went to still Water, got through, went over, Okay State,
Speaker 1: Utah went to a place where the team doesn't lose
Speaker 1: and got it done well. Oklahoma State might just be bad,
Speaker 1: which is bad news for Utah. You know that win
Speaker 1: not looking near as good as it did. West Virginia fine, right,
Speaker 1: Maybe the seventh or eighth best team in the conference
Speaker 1: went to Stillwater and laid it on them. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just thirty eight to fourteen as a final. It was
Speaker 1: thirty one zero at one point, thirty one seven a half,
Speaker 1: and then West Virginia just cruised to the win. UCF
Speaker 1: battled down to Florida, but Florida got that done. Kansas
Speaker 1: also might just be bad. We thought they'd be better.
Speaker 1: Utah's opponent, Arizona State, got done there. And then Arizona,
Speaker 1: after rolling in here and smacking the Utes, goes back
Speaker 1: home and loses to Tech. It's just a really, really
Speaker 1: weird landscape in college football, and it happens. It just
Speaker 1: happens every year. If you listen to the show. First
Speaker 1: of all, thank you hello, how are you? Second of all,
Speaker 1: you know, I say every year, don't bet on college
Speaker 1: football because you're not going to win. It's so hard
Speaker 1: even for anybody who analyzes the sport covers it week
Speaker 1: in and week out, and I'm talking about the highest
Speaker 1: respected people like I listen to what Klatt says, and
Speaker 1: I listen to what a lot of the national analysts
Speaker 1: like Herb Street, our guy Josh Pay, guys like that.
Speaker 1: Everybody was wrong about what to expect this weekend and certainly,
Speaker 1: and we saw a bunch of different examples of it
Speaker 1: all weekend long. So Vanderbilt, who deserves a little credit here.
Speaker 1: Vandy is the only school in the SEC where you
Speaker 1: actually have to fill out paperwork to go to school.
Speaker 1: You actually have to sign something and then they make
Speaker 1: you go to class. They welcome in Alabama. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't just that they beat them because Alabama did write
Speaker 1: the ship Klein debor Alabama. They righted the ship a
Speaker 1: little bit. It was a close game with a ton
Speaker 1: of time left in the third quarter into the fourth,
Speaker 1: and Vandy held on forty thirty five for potentially the
Speaker 1: biggest win in the history of that program. Goalposts came down.
Speaker 1: The fans apparently walked two full miles while carrying a
Speaker 1: very heavy goal post before dumping it into a river
Speaker 1: near Nashville. So scene certainly down at Vanderbilt, but they
Speaker 1: gave us a little bit of a clue here. They
Speaker 1: beat VA Tech Week one, they took Mazoo to overtime. Look,
Speaker 1: nobody thought they were going to beat Bama, but just
Speaker 1: chaos and college football, and it wasn't just Bama. Tennessee,
Speaker 1: who most people thought had established themselves as a legitimate
Speaker 1: national championship contender, goes to Little Rock. They lose Arkansas,
Speaker 1: so they go home with a loss. Miami should have
Speaker 1: lost in Berkeley. Shout out to Cal. Some shoddy officiating
Speaker 1: to say the least, but Miami escapes with a thirty
Speaker 1: nine thirty eight win A and m smokes Massouo at
Speaker 1: Ford Field. Michigan goes up to the Pacific Northwest. They
Speaker 1: lose to Washington USC. I hate taking the victory lap
Speaker 1: every year about this overhyped program. Every year I hear
Speaker 1: about USC save it until they prove it. They're one
Speaker 1: and two in conference play. They lose at Minnesota and
Speaker 1: the hits continue. SMU is now in the top twenty five.
Speaker 1: That BYU win at SMU looks really really good. But
Speaker 1: ultimately over the weekend what took place is really good
Speaker 1: news for both Utah and BYU. We'll start with BYU
Speaker 1: side of things. They're one of twelve FBS teams undefeated.
Speaker 1: They're two and h versus the AP Top twenty five.
Speaker 1: They're the only team that's two and oh against the
Speaker 1: AP Top twenty five right now. They move up to
Speaker 1: number fourteen in the country. They're a legitimate Top twenty,
Speaker 1: top fifteen team now. They welcome in Arizona and Fox
Speaker 1: Big Noon Kickoff coming up on Saturday, a game that
Speaker 1: they're favored in. It's probably safe to say that if
Speaker 1: BYU wins on Saturday, and then the following week they
Speaker 1: go to Stillwater and get a winning it's okay. State again,
Speaker 1: not a great team, not ne year as good as
Speaker 1: we thought they'd be. With all the chaos that's happened
Speaker 1: in front of BYU. They could be a top ten
Speaker 1: program in two weeks. Then they go to Orlando, and
Speaker 1: I promise you there will be a lot, a lot
Speaker 1: of BYU fans in Orlando, I promise you. Okay, So
Speaker 1: they're go to UCF UCF. I still think it's solid,
Speaker 1: probably gonna be there in the end, and then they
Speaker 1: come up here to Salt Lake City to take on
Speaker 1: the Utah on the night. So good news for BYU
Speaker 1: because if they handle their business. They'll continue to kind
Speaker 1: of creep up the standings in a way that nobody
Speaker 1: thought they would if we're honest here, and so a
Speaker 1: lot of teams in front of BYU lose. And as
Speaker 1: a result of that, even though they were idle Bergham
Speaker 1: Young moves up a couple of spots in the AP
Speaker 1: and out of number fourteen. Now good news for Utah
Speaker 1: over the weekend. The reason why the weekend was good
Speaker 1: news for Utah, let me phrase it that way, is
Speaker 1: it's pretty safe to say, as of right now, there's
Speaker 1: an excellent chance that multiple teams in the CFP will
Speaker 1: have at least two, three, maybe even more losses. That's
Speaker 1: how even all this stuff appears to be. And it's
Speaker 1: not just in the Big twelve. It's pretty much all
Speaker 1: over the place. But if we hone in on the
Speaker 1: Big twelve at this point, your undefeated teams right now
Speaker 1: are Texas Tech, BYU, Iowa State, Colorado, and West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Those are your five undefeated teams. Okay, we thought the
Speaker 1: teams would be kay State, maybe Arizona, certainly Utah, Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people like TCU and Kansas. It
Speaker 1: has been the exact opposite, and I hope that BYU
Speaker 1: continues to do what they've done so far and win
Speaker 1: football games. But I don't have a lot of confidence
Speaker 1: that any of those five teams will finish conference play
Speaker 1: with even a loss, probably multiple losses, because every weekend
Speaker 1: has brought chaos with the landscape of college football. It's
Speaker 1: why it's such a great product. We never know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, and that's why we all watch. But
Speaker 1: I do think the chaos over the weekend is good
Speaker 1: news for both Utah and BYU. All Right, last thing here,
Speaker 1: Let's be clear about this. I'm not reporting anything. I
Speaker 1: am not telling you this is going to happen. I
Speaker 1: will remind you that I was the guy last year
Speaker 1: after the first month when Cam didn't play, who told
Speaker 1: you he wasn't going to play all year, and you
Speaker 1: got mad at me. I'm the guy last year after
Speaker 1: the first month who told you Brandt wasn't playing all year,
Speaker 1: and you got mad at me. That's fine. I am
Speaker 1: not here to tell you that any decision has been made,
Speaker 1: but I can tell you, based off a conversation I
Speaker 1: had over the weekend, there is a real feel inside
Speaker 1: the building that they're not that far off from just
Speaker 1: rolling with Isaac. The rest of the way, Friday Night
Speaker 1: is bigger than I think most people are making it
Speaker 1: out to be. And I can't say this for sure,
Speaker 1: but part of me believes, and I have an inclination
Speaker 1: in my gut to believe that if we're all watching
Speaker 1: Friday Night, eight thirty Mountain Time, and Utah's offense rolls
Speaker 1: out onto the field and it's eleven, not seven, there's
Speaker 1: a chance that that's the deal moving forward, period, end
Speaker 1: of story. And I get it. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I fully agree with it, only because I, like all
Speaker 1: of you. If you've watched Utah football for the past
Speaker 1: four or five years, you've seen Cam rise and do
Speaker 1: things that very few players in the history of this
Speaker 1: school have done at that position or elsewhere elsewhere. He
Speaker 1: is and will go down no matter what. We should
Speaker 1: be clear about this, no matter what happens with Cam
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, two PAC twelve Championships, two
Speaker 1: Rose Bowls, like his place is cemented. He should never
Speaker 1: pay for a beer in Salt Lake City ever. Again,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you disagree with that because
Speaker 1: you're frustrated with the thing, but I still believe, no
Speaker 1: matter when it is, even if it's week seven, eight nine,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, when he's ready, I still think the
Speaker 1: job should be his because the Utah offense simply can
Speaker 1: be summarized through data and numbers. Right now, Isaac has
Speaker 1: seven picks. That's like one hundred and thirteenth in a
Speaker 1: country in FBS, Utah is one hundred and eleventh in
Speaker 1: red zone, one hundred and thirteenth on third down. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna roll with Isaac. I get it. Everyone's frustrated.
Speaker 1: You have to at some point turn the page and
Speaker 1: give Isaac all the reps with the ones. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to be there in the end with his
Speaker 1: conference in having something to say about the conference championship,
Speaker 1: if it's Isaac, it just has to be better somehow, someway.
Speaker 1: I'm not the offensive coordinator. Those guys know way more
Speaker 1: about their team than I do. Coach Ludwig earns the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt from you guys. Hopefully he can
Speaker 1: figure something out, dial some things up. If it is Isaac,
Speaker 1: because the offense has not been good enough. Look what
Speaker 1: we know about Utah football this year can essentially be
Speaker 1: summarized with what we know about the way Kyle Whitneyham
Speaker 1: believes football should be played, and far be it for
Speaker 1: me to argue with a guy who has a pedigree
Speaker 1: and a resume like his as to what he should
Speaker 1: or should not do. Play good defense, take care of
Speaker 1: the football, you know, establish a good run game, and
Speaker 1: hopefully bounce it out with what, like Kyle likes to say,
Speaker 1: a good throw game. But they really haven't been able
Speaker 1: to do any of that with consistency with Isaac Hunner
Speaker 1: Center yet. Now could it happen? Sure it could, And
Speaker 1: I have to wonder that if they do decide to
Speaker 1: pull the plug and just go with Isaac and turn
Speaker 1: the page on Cam Rising with that open up something
Speaker 1: in Isaac's mind, knowing that the job is his now,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen on Friday. Let you
Speaker 1: guys decide for yourself, because coming up next, we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear from coach Kyle Whittingham his media availability from earlier today.
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Speaker 6: First of all, bye week came in a really good
Speaker 6: time for us. Gave us a chance to regroup a
Speaker 6: little bit and get some guys, some of the bumps
Speaker 6: and bruises that have accumulated.
Speaker 7: Healed up.
Speaker 6: We've been going shoot since August first, so over two
Speaker 6: months straight without any sort of a break. So it's
Speaker 6: good for these guys to get a break. I think we,
Speaker 6: as we do every year, try to strike a good
Speaker 6: balance with getting some practice in but at the same
Speaker 6: time giving them some downtime to refresh. Arizona State road
Speaker 6: trip this week, they're playing well four and one. Impressed
Speaker 6: with you know a lot of things about their football team.
Speaker 6: They're much more productive offensively this year than they were
Speaker 6: able to be last year. The tailback is a tough,
Speaker 6: hard nosed guy, some good receivers, just very productive on offense.
Speaker 6: Quarterback is definitely a dual threat. So we got to
Speaker 6: work cut out for us. And it's gonna be hot,
Speaker 6: which is nothing new to us. We've had a few
Speaker 6: hot games this year and so I think ninety seven
Speaker 6: at kick is what it's projected to be. But it's
Speaker 6: you know, same for both teams, just like always, so
Speaker 6: so we'll just be able to have to handle that.
Speaker 6: And that's where we're at. So questions justin I should say, question.
Speaker 8: Okay in regards to the Arizona University game.
Speaker 5: In the first quarter, it was fourth down two years ago,
Speaker 5: you decided to go for the first down instead of
Speaker 5: kicking the field goals. It is in my belief that
Speaker 5: if you would have kicked said field goals, we could
Speaker 5: have kept the momentum and could have potentially won the game.
Speaker 5: Would you follow the same protocol this week? And he's
Speaker 5: not a fan of the analytics.
Speaker 6: You're not a fan of analytics, So you know you
Speaker 6: don't believe in science, is what you're trying to say. Uh,
Speaker 6: you know, there's there's a there's an argument for that,
Speaker 6: But the analytics was heavily, heavily in favor of going
Speaker 6: for it in those situations. I've said before, we are
Speaker 6: pretty tuned into the analytics. It's not absolute for us,
Speaker 6: and if we have a different field and we'll go
Speaker 6: a different direction.
Speaker 7: But when it's that.
Speaker 6: Heavily skewed to going for it, you know, field goals obviously,
Speaker 6: touchdowns are worth more than double a field goal, and
Speaker 6: so if you end up kicking field goals a bunch,
Speaker 6: you don't win many games. And so, in hindsight, if
Speaker 6: I knew we weren't going to get it on fourth down,
Speaker 6: we would have we would have kicked, but the strategy
Speaker 6: and the definite statistic goal, uh recommendation was to go
Speaker 6: for it. So unfortunately, we we were zero for fourth
Speaker 6: down in that game, where we had been really good
Speaker 6: the week before. We were four for five, uh the
Speaker 6: week before at uh Oakie State. So it was a
Speaker 6: complete reversal of that. But but uh, yeah, there's some
Speaker 6: old school guys apparently or one of them that uh
Speaker 6: that would like to carry Okay, thank you for that question,
Speaker 6: justin by the way, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: A week ago you said can't rise and all play
Speaker 9: as soon as he gets to go ahead? Does that
Speaker 9: go ahead from the medical staff or the coaching staff.
Speaker 6: Medical staff, Uh, without any other input. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: all we're following the recommendations. We he has following the
Speaker 6: recommendations as well as from the doctors, and and uh,
Speaker 6: we'll see what happens this week. But but there's a
Speaker 6: there's a chance I can tell you that, and and
Speaker 6: uh it's still early in the week, but uh, we're
Speaker 6: crossing our fingers and hoping for the best as his
Speaker 6: camp and so we're we're just seeing how things play out.
Speaker 6: But again, we follow all the medical recommendations. We're not
Speaker 6: gonna you know, I'm not a doctor, Cam's not a doctor.
Speaker 6: We're not going to go against that. So that's where
Speaker 6: we're at.
Speaker 10: Kyle.
Speaker 11: I'm just curious, what is I guess your strategy behind
Speaker 11: how you approach the injury report and kind of to
Speaker 11: follow up on that the Big Ten and the SEC
Speaker 11: they have mandated injury reports. Would you be in support
Speaker 11: if the Big twelve were to go in that direction?
Speaker 6: One hundred percent. But since there is no mandate, why
Speaker 6: would you tip your hand in any way, shape or
Speaker 6: form with injuries? It doesn't make any sense to give
Speaker 6: the opponent any more knowledge than they have. And so
Speaker 6: that's the only reason it's not. It's no other reason
Speaker 6: other than there's a competitive advantage. Even though it might
Speaker 6: be just slight, it's it's still an advantage. The less
Speaker 6: they know, the more we know, uh you know, that
Speaker 6: type of deal. But but yeah, I would be I
Speaker 6: would support that if the Big Twelve were to come
Speaker 6: out and say, hey, you need to you know, disclose
Speaker 6: and have an injury report. But I don't think it
Speaker 6: should be conference to conference Again. I think P four
Speaker 6: should all operate under the same guidelines, the same rules regulations.
Speaker 6: Right now, it's all over the place. And so I
Speaker 6: would be in favor of whoever would make that call
Speaker 6: for all P four confidence to be aligned and have
Speaker 6: a consistent way of handling and dealing with injuries.
Speaker 7: So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 12: If a player is medically cleared, but he's not one
Speaker 12: hundred percent, what's your philosophy.
Speaker 7: On playing him?
Speaker 12: If that player isn't one hundred percent, but whatever percent
Speaker 12: he is gives you a better chance to win than one.
Speaker 7: Hundred percent of the backup. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You answered your own question, PK exactly. It's that's exactly
Speaker 6: the formula. It's it's who gives you the best chance
Speaker 6: to win? Is an eighty percent cam Rising more of
Speaker 6: an opportunity to win than one hundred percent Isaac Wilson.
Speaker 6: And so that's a coach's decision, a coach's call, and
Speaker 6: it's you know, it's you're not going to be right
Speaker 6: all the time, but that's that's the exact criteria we use.
Speaker 6: And first of all, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 6: expose the kid to you know, furthering the injury. But
Speaker 6: you wouldn't get clearance if he didn't you know, if
Speaker 6: that was the case, so it would be exactly what
Speaker 6: you just said. Whoever that particular week gives us the
Speaker 6: best chance to win given the physical circumstances, would that would.
Speaker 7: Be the guy?
Speaker 10: Kyle Cam is obviously your guy. But does there come
Speaker 10: a point in the season where if Cam isn't available
Speaker 10: that you have to look to the future and just
Speaker 10: turn it over the eye just to say that this
Speaker 10: is what it is? Or how long do you wait?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question, and yeah, there is a point.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to pin ourselves down to an exact
Speaker 6: specific time, but as things progress, and then also the
Speaker 6: conference race. You know, where are you in the conference race.
Speaker 6: There's some things that enter into it, but it certainly
Speaker 6: could come to that point, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 10: And to fall with with Isaac, where does he need
Speaker 10: to make those next steps each week, especially own or
Speaker 10: what are you saying that that needs to improve?
Speaker 6: I would say the entire his entire game just needs
Speaker 6: to continue to get tighter and better, you know, cut
Speaker 6: down on the interceptions. First of all, you know, we've
Speaker 6: had some interceptions along the way, but there's not one
Speaker 6: any glaring not any one glaring area we can say, boy,
Speaker 6: he's really lacking in this or that. It's just he's
Speaker 6: a freshman, a true freshman, and there's gonna be a
Speaker 6: learning curve, and there's gonna be mistakes made that you're
Speaker 6: gonna have to live with. And as long as the
Speaker 6: more reps he accrues and the more time he gets,
Speaker 6: you know, playing time, the less those mistakes show up
Speaker 6: and we're turning in the right direction.
Speaker 7: That's really what you're looking for.
Speaker 11: To kind of piggyback off of that question. Given isaac
Speaker 11: struggles with turnovers, is there you know, if the keys
Speaker 11: do have to get handed over to him at some point,
Speaker 11: is there gonna be a consideration to maybe maybe get
Speaker 11: Brandon Rose or Sam Heward more reps given the struggles
Speaker 11: that the offense has had without Cam under Isaac.
Speaker 7: Not right now.
Speaker 6: Right now, Isaac is the is the guy, and if
Speaker 6: Cam becomes the guy again, then Isaac becomes the clear
Speaker 6: cut number two. And again, if Isaac continues to play
Speaker 6: and doesn't trend in the right direction, then just what
Speaker 6: you said may come into play, But right now, we
Speaker 6: don't feel that's in play at this point.
Speaker 9: Bernard's had a fantastic season. But what have you seen
Speaker 9: from the other running backs lately and how do you
Speaker 9: get more production out of them?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mackay has been the bell cow, he's been RB one.
Speaker 6: He's played himself into that role. He was not in
Speaker 6: that role initially at the beginning of the season, where
Speaker 6: he lets things sort themselves out, which they have, and
Speaker 6: he is the guy that's getting the vast majority of
Speaker 6: the carries. The other backs, Mike Mitchell just a freshman
Speaker 6: still learning, but he's added some value to that room
Speaker 6: and had some good carries this season. Dejon Stanley's done
Speaker 6: the same thing, although he's more of a limited package guy.
Speaker 6: Charlie Vincent's contributed. Jalen Glover is a guy that is
Speaker 6: in the room as well that you may see start
Speaker 6: to get more time. But Makaya is the number one
Speaker 6: guy and his play has been outstanding and so that's
Speaker 6: why he has got the vast majority of the carries.
Speaker 8: Bye weeks are important for the players to recoup and rest.
Speaker 8: For for coaches, how much does it help you guys
Speaker 8: to reset strammatically personnel wise, just assessing your team gives
Speaker 8: us a.
Speaker 6: Good opportunity to evaluate everything. But there's a lot of
Speaker 6: recruiting going on as well during the bye week, So
Speaker 6: it's not just football. Our coaches were on the road
Speaker 6: for half the half the bye week and so and
Speaker 6: recruiting never stops. You're doing some form of recruiting every
Speaker 6: single day, and so when you have a bye week
Speaker 6: and let you physically get off campus and go watch
Speaker 6: players and evaluate and so so that was going on.
Speaker 6: But the you know, being able to again self evaluate
Speaker 6: and help you know, make make personnel decisions going forward.
Speaker 6: All that type of stuff is bye week is a
Speaker 6: good time to get that done.
Speaker 13: Given the Arizona ran from more than five yards of
Speaker 13: carry over one hundred and fifty yards, how do you
Speaker 13: challenge your defense? How do you talk to them in
Speaker 13: the film room? And I kind of set the stage.
Speaker 13: Then you're going against the team.
Speaker 7: Likes to run the ball, and that's pretty good at it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well just challenge him just like that, say, if
Speaker 6: we can stop the run, then we got a good
Speaker 6: chance of winning. And we did not do a good
Speaker 6: job against Arizona. We've done a pretty good job all
Speaker 6: season up until that game. Well all season what was
Speaker 6: at three games, four games, But.
Speaker 7: That'll be the key this week. They're a run heavy team.
Speaker 6: They're well over two hundred yards of game rushing, and
Speaker 6: if we're as non effective as we were in the
Speaker 6: Arizona game, it's going to be a long It's going
Speaker 6: to be a long night. And so that is the
Speaker 6: big challenge for our defense is to start up and
Speaker 6: become what we know we can be against the run.
Speaker 11: Obviously, you walked in the season kind of because there
Speaker 11: was rumors floating that Cam could potentially play an eighth
Speaker 11: year of college football given his injury status. Is that
Speaker 11: a possibility if he has has to shut down for
Speaker 11: the rest of the season, that he could potentially come
Speaker 11: back for an eighth year of gold game?
Speaker 6: You know what, I couldn't say for sure. That's a
Speaker 6: compliance question. But if it does come to that point,
Speaker 6: that's something we would thoroughly.
Speaker 7: Have the answer to and research.
Speaker 6: But I haven't even really given that any thought because
Speaker 6: we're just hopefully going to get him back sooner rather
Speaker 6: than later.
Speaker 7: So and I know he wants to play. He wants
Speaker 7: to play badly.
Speaker 8: With the way that the schedule has been set up,
Speaker 8: you have this week, next weekend, the week after three games,
Speaker 8: and then another bye week. How crucial is this stretch
Speaker 8: of the schedule for you.
Speaker 6: Guys, Well, it's very crucial. I mean, we got our
Speaker 6: backs to the wall in a lot of respects.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 6: You look at the standings in the Big Twelve and
Speaker 6: there's two or three teams with three losses.
Speaker 7: That are essentially out of it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if I don't see how
Speaker 6: that any way that they can I guess I shouldn't
Speaker 6: say there's no way, but it's very, very unlikely that
Speaker 6: they're going to have an opportunity to be in.
Speaker 7: The championship game.
Speaker 6: Then the two loss teams have a somewhat of a chance,
Speaker 6: and everyone with one loss or less is still right
Speaker 6: in the thick of it. But every week we're we
Speaker 6: got to get back on track. We didn't play well
Speaker 6: against Arizona. You can be a good football team and
Speaker 6: not play well and get your butt energy.
Speaker 7: You look at Alabama.
Speaker 6: You tell me that Vanderbilt has even close to the
Speaker 6: personnel that Alabama has. There's no way, I mean that
Speaker 6: Minnesota has even close to the personnel that USC has.
Speaker 6: And so that there's illustrations all over the place where
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: Well, it matters.
Speaker 6: But you can be a really good football team, but
Speaker 6: if you don't perform and execute, you're gonna get beat.
Speaker 6: And so where we are right now, we can't look
Speaker 6: past the Arizona State. Yeah there is three games that
Speaker 6: I buy, but it's all focused on Arizona State, and
Speaker 6: this is an important stretch and it's you know, we
Speaker 6: gotta we got to get the ship turned back around
Speaker 6: because it was a very disappointing loss against Arizona. The
Speaker 6: quarterback played well again for Feeda. The receivers terrific. I
Speaker 6: don't want to diminish their you know what they accomplish,
Speaker 6: but we did not play well.
Speaker 10: Obviously, you like to have earlier games. I think you
Speaker 10: said you want four am games.
Speaker 7: If you could, sure, let's go.
Speaker 10: Yeah, when you have these late games, you know, a
Speaker 10: couple of weeks ago with the Arizona game, now you
Speaker 10: get this game with Airzon State. How do you keep
Speaker 10: guys or what do you do as a team to
Speaker 10: kind of help them kind of stay in the mode
Speaker 10: and not let the day just kind of get away
Speaker 10: from them.
Speaker 7: Good question.
Speaker 6: On game day when it is at late kick, we
Speaker 6: have first of all meetings. You know, there's some short
Speaker 6: not extensive, but short offense defensive meetings walk through. We
Speaker 6: have a flex period where they go and stretch out
Speaker 6: and stay loose. We got a nap period, you know,
Speaker 6: a designated nap block of time. There's you know, three
Speaker 6: meals that day. You got breakfast, lunch, and the pregame
Speaker 6: meal later on, and so so we find a way
Speaker 6: to keep them occupied, but make sure they have enough
Speaker 6: time just to you know, rest and relax and get
Speaker 6: themselves ready for the game. And it'll be important this
Speaker 6: week to hydrate. I mean obviously that was you know,
Speaker 6: that would be part of it, and so pushing fluids
Speaker 6: on game day as well as all week long.
Speaker 7: But that's that's a big part of it.
Speaker 11: Kind of to shift focus to the red zone issues
Speaker 11: that you guys have had for the past two weeks.
Speaker 11: How much of that is not having CAM in the
Speaker 11: lineup versus just personnel and schematic struggles.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Cam's very good in the red zone historically, and so
Speaker 6: that's that's a part of it. And we're about twenty
Speaker 6: percent off what we need to be. It's not like
Speaker 6: we just absolutely are horrible. We're at fifty percent, which
Speaker 6: isn't good by any means. But seventy percent is our target.
Speaker 6: And if we can be seventy percent in the red zone,
Speaker 6: which we have been several years, then that's good production.
Speaker 6: And Cam would certainly you know, an experienced kiny like him.
Speaker 6: That's that's got you know, as much a crude football time,
Speaker 6: he's going to be very adapted functioning in.
Speaker 7: The red zone.
Speaker 9: Sam Lovitt was someone you guys looked at in the
Speaker 9: transfer portal. What'st it out about him in that time
Speaker 9: and what challenges does he pose to the defense.
Speaker 6: His athleticism, he's a he's a true threat, dual threat.
Speaker 6: As I mentioned earlier. He's doing a good job with
Speaker 6: the QB run game for him. He's still really got
Speaker 6: and so his development is still you know, ahead of him.
Speaker 6: His efficiency rating right now is about one thirty three
Speaker 6: throwing the ball, so got some work to do there.
Speaker 6: And but you know, he's doing a really good job
Speaker 6: of doing what they're asking him to do, and they
Speaker 6: they're doing a really good job of making sure the
Speaker 6: offense is tailored to his skill set. And he's, like
Speaker 6: I said, a very capable runner. He's a tough kid.
Speaker 6: We liked everything about him. We thought it could be
Speaker 6: in terrific safety as well or linebacker. I mean he's
Speaker 6: one of those qbs that could play two or three
Speaker 6: other spots, and he's so athletically. A Chase Hansen type
Speaker 6: of guy. Yeah, go Yankees. Five o eight. I think
Speaker 6: that's first pitch, five thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Coach Wi Porter. It's not talked about enough
Speaker 1: how similar Kyle and I are. Nobody really that should
Speaker 1: be discussed more. I think around the mark we have
Speaker 1: a lot in common. I'm all gas, no breaks, You're you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're in the way, but I'm all in and Port.
Speaker 1: I want to say some of you today, we will
Speaker 1: not become you, you will become us. Go Yankees.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not joining the Yankees, nor nor am I.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a part of that particular group.
Speaker 1: So the point is how similar Kyle and I are.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can see that right and listen.
Speaker 3: In a lot of ways, I would love to be
Speaker 3: like Kyle Whittingham. That's not one of them, an LA
Speaker 3: guy cheering for the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Come on, Kyle, what is the Do you have the
Speaker 1: origin story for Coach Witt being a Yankee fan?
Speaker 2: I think it was a specific player. Maybe back in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 1: Something didn't know that until today, I should have known
Speaker 1: that he's I.
Speaker 3: Do know that he's not a Dodgers fan because he was.
Speaker 3: He was in more of an Anaheim so he was
Speaker 3: like an Angels guy. But they were so bad that
Speaker 3: I think maybe he veered towards the like you say,
Speaker 3: a team that wins sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know what, Maybe Kyle and I will FaceTime you
Speaker 1: this week when we're studying ASU film. Yeah, just a
Speaker 1: couple of Yankee I can a couple of Yankee fans
Speaker 1: that grind on tape. It's not a big deal. Just
Speaker 1: people should talk about it more.
Speaker 2: All right, cometes Gon, bring in.
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell today, Homer Utah and NFL quarterback all the
Speaker 1: latest on the QV position at the U. Look ahead,
Speaker 1: ASU talk, a little Big twelve football, a little national
Speaker 1: college football from a big picture standpoint. Chaos Week six,
Speaker 1: College Football Week seven. My goodness, we're already halfway done, man,
Speaker 1: as we have turned our calendars to October now, so
Speaker 1: we'll get to that coming up, Patrick Manny will stop by.
Speaker 1: It is a historic week in our state as we're
Speaker 1: going to get golf PGA Tour golf for the first
Speaker 1: time in sixty years, and for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: we get some hockey. Chicago's in town, the Blackhawks tomorrow
Speaker 1: night at the Delta Center. You saw Vlamachi as our
Speaker 1: guest on a Monday you So, how are.
Speaker 15: You, buddy, I'm doing good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm well appreciate your time today. So let's just start
Speaker 1: as you are new to our fine city, our fine community,
Speaker 1: and we are thrilled to have you guys here, excited
Speaker 1: for tomorrow night. What have you learned about your new home?
Speaker 1: What have you learned about Salt Lake City and Utah
Speaker 1: and the folks that you've met so far.
Speaker 15: I mean, it's beautiful. That's definitely the one thing that
Speaker 15: kind of jumps out. And I think the other one
Speaker 15: that's it's been really nice to notice is you know,
Speaker 15: the people. People are super nice. Everyone's been really welcoming
Speaker 15: and just around our neighborhood and you know, obviously around
Speaker 15: you know, the rink or where wherever we've kind of been,
Speaker 15: and you know, you can just sense the excitement that
Speaker 15: everybody has towards us and the team being here. So
Speaker 15: that's that's something that's really exciting and fun and motivating
Speaker 15: for us. So yeah, those those two things stand out.
Speaker 1: We've had a couple of your teammates on the show
Speaker 1: for the past few weeks. I'm gonna ask you some
Speaker 1: of the same questions I asked them because we're all
Speaker 1: of us here. You saw in the market. We're trying
Speaker 1: to get to know you guys a little bit. So
Speaker 1: tell us about yourself, where you grew up, when you
Speaker 1: first started playing hockey, and the path that ultimately has
Speaker 1: landed you. Hear in Salt Lake.
Speaker 15: Well, I'm from Finland. So I grew up in temperet
Speaker 15: there and I played there until I was fifteen. Then
Speaker 15: I went to the WHL. I played in Troy Cities
Speaker 15: for three years, got drafted to Calgary. I played there
Speaker 15: for multiple years, probably what three or four years, and
Speaker 15: then I got to Arizona two years ago and then
Speaker 15: spent two seasons with them and came over with the
Speaker 15: team to Utah. So that's kind of a short version.
Speaker 15: So I've been, uh, I'm being away from from my homeland,
Speaker 15: Finland for for many many years now. So that's where
Speaker 15: I started started playing hockey and grew up and all that.
Speaker 15: But I've been I've been on this side of the
Speaker 15: planet for for quite a.
Speaker 1: While now you So I might be the thousandth person
Speaker 1: ask you this, but I honestly don't know. Are you
Speaker 1: familiar with Lowry Marketing? And have you made contact with
Speaker 1: with Lowry who obviously plays for the Jazz and is
Speaker 1: a as a finished gentleman just like yourself.
Speaker 15: Yeah. Yeah, we've kind of met in in April when
Speaker 15: we came over here to visit, and we've stayed in
Speaker 15: touch ever since ever since that, and we've you know,
Speaker 15: seen each other a couple of times. We both have
Speaker 15: a have a family now, so the whole families have
Speaker 15: been kind of linked up a couple of times. We've
Speaker 15: done some things, and you know, they've been to help,
Speaker 15: you know, especially at the start, kind of showing around
Speaker 15: a little bit and telling what's where and kind of
Speaker 15: how to handle you know, a lot of things. And yeah,
Speaker 15: I mean they've been to help, and they're super super
Speaker 15: nice family and definitely kind of exciting to have that
Speaker 15: kind of connection there with not your team, but still
Speaker 15: you know, playing sports and obviously being from Finland, so
Speaker 15: that's uh, it's definitely cool.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up playing any other sports or were
Speaker 1: you all hockey? All all the way or did you
Speaker 1: try other sports when you were younger as well.
Speaker 15: I played soccer for like a summer. It wasn't really
Speaker 15: my sport, so I kind of stopped it pretty quickly.
Speaker 15: And I used to ski a lot. I know a
Speaker 15: lot of Utah people love love that, and a lot
Speaker 15: of good opportunities here to do so, so I used
Speaker 15: to do that a lot when other kids fortunately not
Speaker 15: really allowed to do it more, but excited to do
Speaker 15: that once I'm once I'm done at some point in
Speaker 15: my my life. But yeah, I never really played any
Speaker 15: other sports, I you know, competitively for for longer periods
Speaker 15: of time, So I was pretty much much hockey for me.
Speaker 1: I've read that you have a family member that's a
Speaker 1: pro golfer. Do you ever swing a golf club? You
Speaker 1: like you got to play a little golf at all?
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 15: I play golf now, especially during the summer a lot.
Speaker 14: I really enjoy it.
Speaker 15: It's something that, you know, kind of makes me relaxed.
Speaker 15: One of those sports where you just kind of talking
Speaker 15: or thinking only only your next shot, and kind of
Speaker 15: the game of golf you kind of leave maybe the
Speaker 15: outside world behind. So I I really do enjoy it.
Speaker 15: And yeah, my cousin actually will be in that tournament
Speaker 15: and you playing for the PGA Tour, So that's that's
Speaker 15: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna head down to Saint George and check
Speaker 1: it out at all?
Speaker 15: I think that timing doesn't really work, you know, what's
Speaker 15: going on the road and stuff. So I wish I could,
Speaker 15: but I wish it was a little bit a little
Speaker 15: bit closer to even like an hour or two drive,
Speaker 15: then it would be kind of makeable. But it'll be
Speaker 15: too far with the schedule that we have. But maybe
Speaker 15: maybe another time. Hopefully one of these years we'll have
Speaker 15: a chance to do that. Kind of same thing happened
Speaker 15: last year in Arizona when he was playing at the
Speaker 15: Waste Management. We were kind of we just left on
Speaker 15: a road trip and had a home game there too,
Speaker 15: so we kind of missed the whole tournament. But that's
Speaker 15: just how it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're busy playing games and practicing because
Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete, So that's kind of how it goes. Hey,
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to kind of kick the
Speaker 1: ties with you on the type of players that you
Speaker 1: are because you're a defenseman. You have really good size,
Speaker 1: but you you have in the past for Calgary and
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Coyotes scored goals and provided a lot
Speaker 1: of assists as well. So what sort of player for
Speaker 1: our new hockey fans? What sort of player are you?
Speaker 15: One of those you know, kind of two way defensemens. I,
Speaker 15: you know, I really like playing with the puck. I
Speaker 15: like to, you know, get into the rush sometimes and
Speaker 15: make them make some plays. But I think I've established
Speaker 15: my game to the point where I consider myself as
Speaker 15: a you know, reliable on the defensive side as well.
Speaker 15: For a job is to keep the puck out of
Speaker 15: the nets. So yeah, but I like playing, you know,
Speaker 15: two hundred good game and I kind of take bridon
Speaker 15: both of those kind of areas, you know, the offensive
Speaker 15: game and the defensive game.
Speaker 1: So I wonder, because I've asked your teammates as well,
Speaker 1: this is really you So, as you know, an unprecedented
Speaker 1: thing in the history of professional hockey for a city
Speaker 1: like ours to be able to grab a team. It
Speaker 1: isn't an expansion team that has infrastructure in place. There
Speaker 1: just obviously was chaos down in Arizona. What was that
Speaker 1: process like for you when you got a phone call
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, just so you know, you live
Speaker 1: in Utah. Now, what was what was that?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean kind of at the start, it was,
Speaker 15: you know, a little bit of a shock in a
Speaker 15: way that it's just kind of happened so quickly, and
Speaker 15: it's like, you know, kind of a big decision like that,
Speaker 15: it's kind of made for you, Like it's like, hey, okay,
Speaker 15: well you guys are all moving to Utah. It's not
Speaker 15: like do you have a say in it or you
Speaker 15: have a choice to be made there. So obviously a
Speaker 15: little bit of a shock like that. But I think
Speaker 15: what really kind of turned the corner for me and
Speaker 15: for for all of us was to visit visit down
Speaker 15: here for those two days in April. I think that's
Speaker 15: just when everybody, you know, realized what we're coming into,
Speaker 15: how awesome it's going to be, and what a nice
Speaker 15: place it is to live. I think just in that
Speaker 15: short period of time, you were able to kind of
Speaker 15: get the idea of of how how nice it will
Speaker 15: be down here, and I think it just made everyone
Speaker 15: like excited and motivated for the summer and for the
Speaker 15: season to come. So I think after you know, the
Speaker 15: initial kind of a shock what's going on? It turned
Speaker 15: into you know, excitement and and motivation really quickly.
Speaker 1: Col I wonder we've heard from Bill Armstrong over the
Speaker 1: weekend and Andre Torny, your head coach, about the decision
Speaker 1: to make Clayton Keller the first ever captain for the
Speaker 1: Utah Hockey Club. I guess down in Arizona there was
Speaker 1: not one captain. It was more of like leadership by committee.
Speaker 1: So give me the reaction to locker room that Clayton
Speaker 1: Keller has been named your captain. What can you tell
Speaker 1: us about that decision?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, you know, definitely, you know, well deserved.
Speaker 15: I think that's that's the guy who you know, we're
Speaker 15: happy to follow. And you know, he's definitely a great leader.
Speaker 15: He leads by example, He really cares about his teammates,
Speaker 15: who really cares about you know, winning and being at
Speaker 15: his best every night. And you know, I can be
Speaker 15: happier that you know he's your captain, and I think
Speaker 15: all of us kind of feel the same way. And
Speaker 15: and we're ready to go to war together and him
Speaker 15: leading us.
Speaker 1: So big time edition of the offseason in your positional
Speaker 1: group with Sergachev being brought in Michel, Who's won a
Speaker 1: couple of Stanley Cups and still certainly is in the
Speaker 1: prime of his career. You so help me understand what
Speaker 1: this edition means and how it's been to well welcome
Speaker 1: him into your locker room and in your positional group.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it's been awesome. He's a great guy.
Speaker 15: Obviously knows I was probably hockey pretty well, you know,
Speaker 15: even though as he's reasonably young, I think he's got,
Speaker 15: you know, a lot of experience and like you mentioned,
Speaker 15: he's got some cups and a lot of playoff appearances
Speaker 15: and and all that, so that's valuable for us. There's
Speaker 15: a lot of a lot of from from our group
Speaker 15: from Arizona don't don't have much of experience there, so
Speaker 15: I think that's really helpful. And and I think he's
Speaker 15: proved over his career that he can be really, uh,
Speaker 15: you know, impactful player for for the team he's he's
Speaker 15: playing for. And I think that's what you know, we're
Speaker 15: expecting off him, and and we know he can do that.
Speaker 15: And you know, obviously gated great edition on and off
Speaker 15: the ice, so we're we're really happy to have him.
Speaker 1: So ultimately, there's a lot of rumor going around in
Speaker 1: the community about the permanent name of the team. I've
Speaker 1: got to ask you you, so, what is your favorite
Speaker 1: hypothetical name that you've heard thrown out there? And do
Speaker 1: you know what the what the team name is going
Speaker 1: to be when the death settle.
Speaker 14: No, I don't.
Speaker 15: I don't know anymore than than you guys do. So
Speaker 15: we're still in the guessing game game as well. But
Speaker 15: you know, honestly, I I kind of like the you know,
Speaker 15: all of them, and I don't think there's one kind
Speaker 15: of name that I want to throw out there. Take
Speaker 15: that as as whatever you kind of want. But I
Speaker 15: think it's when you look at the options. I think
Speaker 15: you can make all of them, you know, really good.
Speaker 15: You can put in a nice logo, you can make
Speaker 15: it with the colors, you can, you know, make a
Speaker 15: nice mascot of all that stuff. So I'll be happy
Speaker 15: either way.
Speaker 1: There's not one favored that you like that you want
Speaker 1: to throw out there, there's not one that stands out.
Speaker 15: No, I'm not gonna say mine, all.
Speaker 14: Right, all right, just in case.
Speaker 1: No, that's smart, that's smart. That's the way to go. Hey,
Speaker 1: we've been having this debate about who the rival club
Speaker 1: will be for you guys now regionally, Colorado seems to
Speaker 1: make sense. But they're really good and this is a
Speaker 1: new thing, and oftentimes rivalries kind of take place. I've
Speaker 1: always been of the opinion rivalries take place in playoff
Speaker 1: action or when they're really big games on the line,
Speaker 1: not just like regular season battles. Any thoughts on who
Speaker 1: the rival club will be for the Utah Hockey Club.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I think it'll be kind of dictator
Speaker 15: a little bit. How the games kind of start going,
Speaker 15: you know, the most heated matchups that we'll have against
Speaker 15: my might just kind of decide it for us. But
Speaker 15: but I think kind of realistically, Colorado, like you kind
Speaker 15: of said, make makes probably the most sense, you know,
Speaker 15: being kind of you know, close, and both of us
Speaker 15: we have a little bit of altitude on the air
Speaker 15: and like just kind of like similarities in that way.
Speaker 15: And obviously we'll be playing against each other quite a bit,
Speaker 15: so that would in my head, that would kind of
Speaker 15: make sense. But I guess the games will kind of
Speaker 15: decide for us and see how it goes.
Speaker 1: So Bill Armstrong often talks about this this rebuild process
Speaker 1: that the club is going through and has gone through
Speaker 1: for a while, and you've been with the club. This
Speaker 1: will be your third year, so you've kind of experienced
Speaker 1: this rebuild. You were a part of it when you
Speaker 1: were acquired, as I believe a twenty two or a
Speaker 1: twenty three year old. So help us understand what the
Speaker 1: process you so has been like so far and what
Speaker 1: you guys believe the next steps are in this rebuild process.
Speaker 15: H Yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's something that's a
Speaker 15: little bit you know different, I guess, you know, in
Speaker 15: the last couple of years, especially kind of during the
Speaker 15: trade deadline, you know, there's been a lot of deals.
Speaker 15: You know, we kind of dealt a lot of guys,
Speaker 15: and that's something that's you know, a little bit difficult
Speaker 15: and and and hard, and you're losing your teammates and
Speaker 15: and I you know, it's obviously we haven't you know,
Speaker 15: made playoffs or haven't like won you know, too many
Speaker 15: games like that. So I guess that's kind of a
Speaker 15: little bit part of it. I don't really like thinking
Speaker 15: about it in that way. I think, you know, the
Speaker 15: whole kind of world rebuild and and what it kind
Speaker 15: of means, I think it's more for for the management,
Speaker 15: and that's you know, obviously they have to have plans
Speaker 15: for for each year, but for a longer time as well.
Speaker 15: I think as a player, you just kind of want
Speaker 15: to you know, you obviously want to win every single
Speaker 15: game that you're playing in at and me when I
Speaker 15: improve as a player, you want to focus on getting
Speaker 15: better and you know, not worrying about what's kind of
Speaker 15: happening outside of you. I've I've heard the phrase control
Speaker 15: you can control about a million times in my career
Speaker 15: from from some wise people, and and I think that's,
Speaker 15: you know, as a player, that's kind of what you
Speaker 15: need to do. And I don't think you can worry
Speaker 15: about too much on on what's going on, and and
Speaker 15: you know, higher up, at the end of the day,
Speaker 15: my job is to to play the best I can
Speaker 15: and and try to help my team win. And that's
Speaker 15: you know, what I've tried to do for the last
Speaker 15: two years. And I think all of us in the
Speaker 15: room we've had the same mind that we've you know,
Speaker 15: we we just wanted to, you know, do our best
Speaker 15: and and win as many games as possible and and
Speaker 15: all the rest is is kind of out of our control.
Speaker 15: But I think obviously going into the year, we are
Speaker 15: excited about the group that we have. You know, a
Speaker 15: lot of a lot of us have kind of we
Speaker 15: are the same, like you said, we have experienced, you know,
Speaker 15: a lot of stuff. So I think we are you know,
Speaker 15: all ready for to take a step forward, you know,
Speaker 15: win more and more games and and uh and really
Speaker 15: make a push and and kind of a splash around
Speaker 15: the ripe around the league. So I think we're all
Speaker 15: ready for that. We've all grown a little bit. I
Speaker 15: think we have, you know, the pieces to to get
Speaker 15: better and be better. And I think something that you know,
Speaker 15: we talk about of the group is is still kind
Speaker 15: of taking things to day at a time. You know,
Speaker 15: there is all kinds of noise and and everything going
Speaker 15: around with you know, being a new team, every everyone
Speaker 15: being excited and you know, on and on. But I
Speaker 15: think for for us as a group, what we want
Speaker 15: to do is just focus on each day, folks, on
Speaker 15: being better, you know, each game day, winning that winning
Speaker 15: that game, and that's what we're focused on now and
Speaker 15: tomorrow will be focused on on being in Chicago and
Speaker 15: on opening night.
Speaker 1: Oh well said, yeah, you're a pro, You've done this before.
Speaker 1: That was an excellent answer you So I appreciate your
Speaker 1: time today, best of luck tomorrow, stay healthy, and we'd
Speaker 1: love to do it again.
Speaker 15: All right, thank you so much.
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Speaker 16: If you like beer and hockey, then you'll love the
Speaker 16: new release from Epic Brewing Company Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger.
Speaker 16: This delicious seven point five Imperial Logger is now available
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Speaker 1: All Right, we got Scott Mitch rolling by in about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes from right now, former Utah quarterback for all
Speaker 1: the latest on Utah football, as it is game week
Speaker 1: once again for the Utes after a bye, b Yu
Speaker 1: after a bye as well. But it's an historic week
Speaker 1: in our community for a couple of reasons. We have
Speaker 1: pro golf back in town down South and Saint George,
Speaker 1: but we have the NHL making its debut tomorrow night
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake. I'm still laughing and shaking my head
Speaker 1: every time I say that as a child in the Northeast.
Speaker 1: And our next guest from Epic Brewing, we got Ryan
Speaker 1: and we have Gus. Gentlemen, how are we doing?
Speaker 2: Doing pretty well? How are you doing today, good man?
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming in a studio so Gus, I understand
Speaker 1: that it's not surprising you look like a hockey player.
Speaker 14: Heke you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take that as a compliment.
Speaker 1: It is a compliment your stouts. Let me guess you're
Speaker 1: not a defenceman.
Speaker 2: Right, no, no, guess by the height.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't want to say it out loud, but
Speaker 1: you're not tall enough to be a defenceman right attacking player?
Speaker 1: You winger? Yep, exactly, that knew it. Who's your favorite
Speaker 1: hockey team?
Speaker 14: Ooh?
Speaker 2: I mean now, it's got to be Utah Hockey clab.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be hands down but grown up. It was tough.
Speaker 17: I kind of bounced around from team to team, didn't
Speaker 17: really have a team to align with until just a
Speaker 17: couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: So I'm stoked.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think, does Bountiful High have a
Speaker 1: hockey team?
Speaker 2: They do?
Speaker 17: I actually when I grew up in Bountiful, I played
Speaker 17: for Viewmont because they didn't have a ah.
Speaker 1: They hated the Viewmont's like Bountiful's rival. Isn't there some
Speaker 1: woods Cross these days? I can never keep up.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 17: I think when I was at Viewmont it was Davis
Speaker 17: more than Bountiful or woods Cross.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I kind of bounced.
Speaker 1: Okay, right on, good old Davis County people. Love my
Speaker 1: Davis County people. Okay, Ryan, let's dig in here. Hockey
Speaker 1: is here now, and you guys at Epic are obviously
Speaker 1: prepared want to remind folks, let folks know coming up tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on remote at Epic. It's right on
Speaker 1: State Street. It's eight twenty five South State. Check out
Speaker 1: their website which is Epic Brewing dot com. But if
Speaker 1: you like beer and hockey, and it seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of people like beer like hockey, and I can
Speaker 1: tell you most people will like hockey like beer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us about this new hip Check Ice Imperial Lagger. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is a brand new beer from Epic.
Speaker 18: It really it was Gus's brain shot when we found
Speaker 18: out the hockey team was coming here.
Speaker 2: Gus is like, we got to do a hockey beer.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 18: And one of the owners of Epic, also Peter, he
Speaker 18: still plays hockey. He's grew up playing hockey. He's still
Speaker 18: in like an old man like hockey league. So it
Speaker 18: really fits with Epic. But yeah, we've got a new beer.
Speaker 18: It's called Hipcheck Ice Imperial Lagger. It's a seven and
Speaker 18: a half percent Crystal Clear light lagger beer. You can
Speaker 18: definitely catch a buzz off of it. Great beer a
Speaker 18: pregame with. It's pretty simple. It's not a really really
Speaker 18: crafty beer. It's light it's easy drinking, it's crisp, it's
Speaker 18: a good one to drink cold. And I don't shure
Speaker 18: we open one up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crack it open. And also seven and a half
Speaker 1: percent is enough that you know what you're doing, but
Speaker 1: it's not too much where you're gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: feeling it a little bit the next day. So you
Speaker 1: landed on a good percentage. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 18: I'd say it's a pretty good number, but yeah, you
Speaker 18: can definitely it's a little bit stronger than your sure.
Speaker 1: So so, Gus, what was the process like creating this
Speaker 1: new beer as far as the tie with hockey? Like
Speaker 1: what tell tell me the origin story, how you came
Speaker 1: up with the idea.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, actually, I was probably listening to you
Speaker 17: when I heard the news that we were getting the
Speaker 17: hockey team officially.
Speaker 2: And we do a meeting every week.
Speaker 17: We've got all spectrums of the brewery in their sales, brewers, sellerman,
Speaker 17: front house, back house, everybody's in there. And I said, hey,
Speaker 17: you guys, look look at the news. Look what's happening
Speaker 17: in Salt Lake. Let's do something to celebrate this. So yeah,
Speaker 17: from there, our head brewer took took the reins and
Speaker 17: decided that he wanted to roll with a lagger, something
Speaker 17: nice and easy drinking to go well with a with hockey.
Speaker 1: So, honestly, I'm completely unfamiliar with the process. I've got
Speaker 1: a couple of buddies that are like amateurs, right, they
Speaker 1: get the home thing, they do the home brewery situation.
Speaker 1: Never really that good, but they try, they try hard. Right,
Speaker 1: what's the process start to finish? Like, take us through.
Speaker 1: What's it like to create a craft beer like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, clue, you probably no better than I.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, Gus and I were both on the
Speaker 18: sales side of things, but really, I mean, first you
Speaker 18: come up with the concept, you know, like what kind
Speaker 18: of beer do you want? And for this, we wanted
Speaker 18: a beer there was a little bit stout, a little bit,
Speaker 18: but a little bit on the lighter side also, and
Speaker 18: I mean.
Speaker 2: If you take a look at it, it's it's crystal clear.
Speaker 18: It actually is probably one of like the lightest looking,
Speaker 18: like clearest we have, and it's yeah, it's definitely a
Speaker 18: true logger. And we wanted a beer that we thought
Speaker 18: maybe like old school hockey players would like to drink, okay,
Speaker 18: And we came up with this where it's a little
Speaker 18: bit stout, it's super light. You know, it drinks like
Speaker 18: a beer drinkers beer. I just kind of beer flavored beer,
Speaker 18: you know, Like, what do you think beer tastes?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 18: Like it's this and we're really excited about it. I
Speaker 18: actually haven't really had a chance to like bring home
Speaker 18: a couple of cans of beer and really like snuggle
Speaker 18: up and dive into it.
Speaker 2: I think tomorrow night I'll probably be that.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 1: It's always interesting to me because it seems like and
Speaker 1: you guys are the experts, so I'm going to make
Speaker 1: an observation. You tell me if I'm wrong. It seems
Speaker 1: like there's this race to make the best IPA or
Speaker 1: the best like triple ipa, and sometimes it tastes like
Speaker 1: dish soap or like treat bark right, so.
Speaker 18: Maybe more so your homebrewer friends, I feel like stuff
Speaker 18: a little.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of the scene right now? It feels
Speaker 1: like IPAs have taken over the past five or six years.
Speaker 1: They've really kind of.
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, you know, IPAs have taken over. There's kind
Speaker 18: of an evolution. I feel like to drinking beer. Though
Speaker 18: you start drinking beer, I don't know when you're younger,
Speaker 18: you drink really light beers. You kind of like graduate
Speaker 18: to drinking IPAs and dark stouts and things like that,
Speaker 18: and then as you like really mature into beer drinking,
Speaker 18: you kind of fall back to these light logger beers.
Speaker 18: There's a lot of nuances to them, and yeah, they're
Speaker 18: really tasty drink. I find myself drinking a lot more
Speaker 18: light beer these days, as long as you.
Speaker 1: Don't go back to going to seven getting the twenty
Speaker 1: four pack of like Natty Ice. Yeah, you don't really
Speaker 1: go back there.
Speaker 18: No, you fall back to like the fans here, like
Speaker 18: the nighter, like you know, classic like logger beers.
Speaker 1: Let me follow up with you, Ryan, because I mentioned
Speaker 1: this earlier. You guys have always from my vantage point,
Speaker 1: it's always It's always seemed to me you're at the forefront,
Speaker 1: right You're the first to figure out how to offer
Speaker 1: beer on Sunday. You're the first offer you know, an
Speaker 1: ipa of this. It seems like you guys have been
Speaker 1: kind of pioneers in our Now there are a lot
Speaker 1: of breweries that have popped up, but I was mentioning
Speaker 1: to you off air, you guys were like the one
Speaker 1: spot to go to on Sundays before other spots opened up.
Speaker 1: What's it about Epic that seems to be on the
Speaker 1: forefront of beer creation in our market.
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of what Epic Hell Epic started.
Speaker 18: I mean, we wanted to be creative, we wanted to
Speaker 18: make beers you couldn't get in Utah. It's hard to remember,
Speaker 18: but ten fifteen years ago, I mean, there were some
Speaker 18: good breweries here you went to as your wassatch was here,
Speaker 18: but really as far as like craft beer came, was like,
Speaker 18: there wasn't a lot. And Epic came out and started
Speaker 18: making like really really creative beers, and then the breweries
Speaker 18: around here, I feel like, kind of up their game.
Speaker 18: And now there's like all sorts of breweries around here
Speaker 18: that are making great stuff. But we try to be
Speaker 18: cutting as you know, we're always trying to be on
Speaker 18: top of it and trying to be like ahead of
Speaker 18: the game a little bit and just trying to be creative.
Speaker 2: And it's it's fun and it.
Speaker 1: Does feel like I was in Denver last year and
Speaker 1: I always do the thing that we all do, like
Speaker 1: compare Salt Lake to Portland or Denver like cities in
Speaker 1: our region and Denver has a real thriving you know,
Speaker 1: that downtown area where there are breweries like next to
Speaker 1: each other, stacked on top of each other for like
Speaker 1: four or five blocks. Maybe we'll get there at some point.
Speaker 1: But how have you seen this scene kind of grow
Speaker 1: since you got involved in our marketplace? It's much different,
Speaker 1: isn't it?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it's amazing. How good, Like there's so many
Speaker 2: good breweries around here.
Speaker 18: I mean, shot, got how many brewers you think there
Speaker 18: are within walking distance of like where we are now?
Speaker 2: Like eight?
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's there's probably at least eight, and I think
Speaker 17: there's two or three more if you include siders coming
Speaker 17: up as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: It seems like there's a bunch down where like west,
Speaker 1: like little West, there's like a little.
Speaker 18: Kind of southwest Salt Lake City. Yeah, there's breweries all
Speaker 18: over the place. It's great. I mean bike tours, walking tours,
Speaker 18: like you can hit a ton of breweries. It's almost
Speaker 18: better than Denver for what it is, you know, because
Speaker 18: they're they're consolidated into a into a smaller place. Yeah,
Speaker 18: I don't know. We like Salt Lake City better than Denver.
Speaker 18: You know, it's easy, sure, sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, that's why. So Gus is Colorado? Is that going
Speaker 1: to be our rival? The Avalanche? That is the hockey
Speaker 1: club rival going to be the Avalanche?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the go to rival. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: only makes sense.
Speaker 18: They're really good this year though, right, they're always good
Speaker 18: as of late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. All right, Ryan, tell me about you
Speaker 1: brought a couple of other Definitely check out Epic Brewing
Speaker 1: dot com. If you like beer in hockey, you're gonna
Speaker 1: love the new release. It's called Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger.
Speaker 1: It's a seven point five percent Imperial lagger. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't taste like a seven point five percent. That's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Sometimes when the content's a little high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take a sip and it's biting you right away. It
Speaker 1: doesn't taste like it's a seven point five percent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that fair?
Speaker 18: Super fair? This thing's real easy drinking, And that was
Speaker 18: kind of the point. We wanted something easy drink in there.
Speaker 18: Maybe you could catch a buzz off of it if
Speaker 18: you wanted to.
Speaker 1: So the address is eight twenty five South State Street.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be down there tomorrow from two to six.
Speaker 1: Come hang out. Prior to the hockey game. I'm going
Speaker 1: down to the hockey game after my remote, so come
Speaker 1: hang out, have a beer, and pick up a free
Speaker 1: hockey puck.
Speaker 18: Ryan tell us about it. Yeah, we've got some epic
Speaker 18: branded hockey pucks. We're given away to anybody that stops
Speaker 18: by and comes in to hang out. Actually Wall supplies last.
Speaker 18: We don't have a ton of them, but.
Speaker 1: Then they're cool. They got the epic logo and you
Speaker 1: know it is a hockey puck. So before I say
Speaker 1: you lose, tell me about these other other beers you
Speaker 1: brought in.
Speaker 18: Yeah, we brought a couple of seasonal beers down. We
Speaker 18: have our Munich Mayhem october Fest beer. So it's not
Speaker 18: anything to see the label here, but it's kind of
Speaker 18: got like a German like punk rock theme. Very nice,
Speaker 18: super fun beer for the fall time. It's a logger beer.
Speaker 18: It's a little bit different from the hip check where
Speaker 18: it's a amber colored lagger, so it's got a little
Speaker 18: little bit more malt flavor to it.
Speaker 2: And then Gus, we talk about the other beer we
Speaker 2: brought down.
Speaker 17: Yeah, chair sure, Yeah, we brought our Imperial Pumpkin Porter
Speaker 17: as well. It's definitely porter first with the pumpkin and
Speaker 17: spice flavor coming in second. So it's not going to
Speaker 17: be like your Starbucks pumpkin spice latte. It's gonna be
Speaker 17: much more subtle. The pumpkin really compliments the porter base.
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice. All right, gentlemen, Well, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming in and I will see you both tomorrow to remode. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, my guys Russ, Ryan and Gus excuse me
Speaker 1: for effort brewing. I'm gonna be down there tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon before the hockey game at night. It's eight
Speaker 1: twenty five South State Street. Website is Epic Brewing dot com.
Speaker 1: It's a brand new beer. It's the Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger.
Speaker 1: It's a seven point five percent Imperial Logger. Saints Chiefs
Speaker 1: tonight at six o'clock Mountain Time from Arrowhead. Get hear
Speaker 1: that game on our radio station right after we say
Speaker 1: good night at six o'clock. You'll hear from Coach Wit
Speaker 1: in the five o'clock hour if you missus. Media availability,
Speaker 1: all the latest on Isaac Wilson, under center, Cameron Rising,
Speaker 1: his health. But it's time now to bring in former
Speaker 1: Utah quarterback, former NFL quarterback. Always a pleasure to catch
Speaker 1: up with Scott Mitchell. Scott, Happy Monday, sir. How are
Speaker 1: we doing.
Speaker 14: I'm doing wonderful. I felt like last weekends college football
Speaker 14: was Oprah Winfrey giving the top fifteen teams losses. You
Speaker 14: get a loss, and you get a loss, and you
Speaker 14: get a loss. It was like everyone who is important,
Speaker 14: including Alabama, loss this weekend. It's crazy weekend in college football.
Speaker 1: Yes, certainly, and it feels like Scott, let's start with
Speaker 1: this from a macro standpoint, if we can look at
Speaker 1: this as good news for Utah fans, there will be
Speaker 1: multiple teams in the CFP that have multiple losses and
Speaker 1: not just one and two, maybe even three and four.
Speaker 1: With the way this stuff is going. Would you agree
Speaker 1: with that statement as of now?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's weird because most of the conferences have, like,
Speaker 14: you know, sixteen teams, fourteen sixteen teams, and so they're
Speaker 14: not necessarily all playing each other. Maybe these teams are
Speaker 14: playing harder teams now because they know, hey, I can
Speaker 14: have a couple of losses and still make get in
Speaker 14: the college playoffs. Maybe it's nil. Maybe the talent is
Speaker 14: just spreading around the country and there's more parody. I
Speaker 14: mean I'm sure there's a lot of factors that go
Speaker 14: into this because you don't really feel like, Okay, there's
Speaker 14: just one team. You know, maybe it's Texas, maybe it's
Speaker 14: Ohio State that are the best teams in the country,
Speaker 14: but beyond that, you know, it certainly is pretty wide open,
Speaker 14: which should give you a hope. You get in the
Speaker 14: playoffs and you go, look, we don't have to beat
Speaker 14: this team every week, but we can beat them one week.
Speaker 14: And everyone's kind of proven that that they can at
Speaker 14: least lose at one time, and that that's that's kind
Speaker 14: of exciting. It's something that will be fun to watch
Speaker 14: it and it can be very competitive. But as far
Speaker 14: as it relates to Utah, man, you got you gotta
Speaker 14: you gotta be a little bit relieved. You got to
Speaker 14: feel like, okay, hey we you know, we kind of
Speaker 14: screwed it up in our game against Arizona. But look
Speaker 14: at Alabama, I look at some of these other schools
Speaker 14: and and the reality is is it's it's it can
Speaker 14: happen to anyone, and it really can. I mean, I've
Speaker 14: seen this at all levels and all teams. They just
Speaker 14: have at tonight when it's just not their night.
Speaker 1: So game week for the Utes, Friday night, it's a
Speaker 1: late kick fan duel has Utah's a six point five
Speaker 1: point favorite, even though they're on the road. The line
Speaker 1: opened up Utah minus five, and it's gone the way
Speaker 1: of the Utes a couple of different times. Let's start
Speaker 1: with this, though, Scott. Over the weekend, I talked to
Speaker 1: somebody up on campus and Coach wait just alluded to
Speaker 1: this in his media this morning. This is not set
Speaker 1: in stone, but I'm told that there is a field
Speaker 1: that if Cameron can't go on Friday and it's Isaac again,
Speaker 1: that they're getting close to just giving Isaac that job.
Speaker 1: Give me your take on that, because for me, I
Speaker 1: still believe for them to win the Big twelve, Cam
Speaker 1: has to be under center. And it's not Isaac's fall
Speaker 1: these eighteen he's a freshman, just enrolled in school. But
Speaker 1: Friday night, you're calling the game, and if the first
Speaker 1: team OH runs out and it's Isaac Hunter center center
Speaker 1: and not Cam, do you feel like we're inching closer
Speaker 1: and closer to the day where Coach Waiting coach a
Speaker 1: lot and those guys just need to give Isaac the
Speaker 1: job and just roll with the young kid.
Speaker 14: Well, if that's the case, then this injury is much
Speaker 14: more significant than we think, and it hasn't appeared like
Speaker 14: it it is. Watching Cam he looked terrible warming up
Speaker 14: against Oklahoma State and looked better against Arizona. I would
Speaker 14: be really surprised if he doesn't play on Friday. He clearly,
Speaker 14: from experience, from ability, you know, gives Utah the best
Speaker 14: chance to win, you know, if he's healthy. But if
Speaker 14: it is Isaac and if they do start going that direction,
Speaker 14: it's one of those you know, it's like, no matter
Speaker 14: what with a young quarterback, you're just gonna get good
Speaker 14: and bad. Like so last week against Arizona, the bad
Speaker 14: part was the team is is not. It's kind of
Speaker 14: like in a far and a veteran quarterback will kind
Speaker 14: of rally the troops and Cam Rising would rally the troops,
Speaker 14: and Cam Rising would say, Okay, we've got to go
Speaker 14: win this game in the second half or win this game.
Speaker 14: And there were plenty of opportunities in the second half
Speaker 14: for that to happen, and it just didn't. It's just
Speaker 14: it's like the young quarterback team just kind of accepted
Speaker 14: its fate and they just they just weren't able to
Speaker 14: get anything going. And that's just youth and that's inexperienced.
Speaker 14: And that game against Arizona is the perfect example of
Speaker 14: when you need a Cam Rising. So you're going to
Speaker 14: go through more of those times. You know, if Isaac
Speaker 14: does play, hopefully you'll see that, Okay, go win a
Speaker 14: football game mindset from him moving forward when they really
Speaker 14: need it, because the quarterback is the is the biggest
Speaker 14: difference maker in college football. And that's that's what Cam
Speaker 14: Rising was. I mean, there were so many times he
Speaker 14: made incredible plays and it was just Cam Rising making
Speaker 14: plays through the years when Utah won back twelve championships
Speaker 14: and it was him going out and winning football games.
Speaker 14: And and that's a guy who's a leader, who's confident,
Speaker 14: who is mature, who's who's ready to do that. You know,
Speaker 14: freshman right out of high school, that maturity level just
Speaker 14: isn't quite quite there. So you're if you go with Isaac,
Speaker 14: you're just going to have ups and downs and and
Speaker 14: hopefully you just see progress. And if you see a
Speaker 14: lot of progress and you go, that's really exciting because
Speaker 14: you get you take your lumps for a year with Isaac,
Speaker 14: but then you have three you know, two or three years,
Speaker 14: however long he stays in school, whatever he does, then
Speaker 14: you have a lot of time with him. Where where
Speaker 14: you're going to have that mature quarterback, you're going to
Speaker 14: have that difference maker, and that's huge. It's huge to
Speaker 14: a team and it's hard to kind of go through
Speaker 14: those pains as a team with a young quarterback, but
Speaker 14: it can pay dividends down the road.
Speaker 1: At what point, Scott, in your opinion, to somebody who
Speaker 1: played the position, and you know, put yourself, I suppose
Speaker 1: in the shoes of both Cam and Isaac, at what
Speaker 1: point do you think the right time is to just
Speaker 1: give Isaac the job? Is it Friday? If Cam's not ready,
Speaker 1: do you still wait? I mean, part of me believes
Speaker 1: that whenever Cam's ready, he's got to be back on
Speaker 1: her center, even if that's not for another three or
Speaker 1: four weeks. Then the other side of me believes that
Speaker 1: Isaac probably if he's going to be the guy needs
Speaker 1: the reps with the ones period and if it's going
Speaker 1: to be his job, then let's just move on with it.
Speaker 1: What's your opinion on that?
Speaker 14: Oh man, it's a hard you know, there's an argument
Speaker 14: that you know, you don't lose your job because of
Speaker 14: an injury. There's some coaches. Bill Belichick just went away
Speaker 14: from Drew Bledsoe, who was a phenomenal quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 14: he was one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL
Speaker 14: when he was benched for Tom Brady, who was kind
Speaker 14: of a seventh round nobody. And for a lot of time,
Speaker 14: I think a lot of people go, Okay, well, Drew
Speaker 14: Brett so when he comes back, is going to be
Speaker 14: the guy, and it just never happened. And I think
Speaker 14: so much of it is a coach just making a
Speaker 14: decision on who's the guy that gives us the very
Speaker 14: best chance to win historic Earl Morale comes in for
Speaker 14: Bob Greasy and you know, leads the Dolphins to a
Speaker 14: perfect regular season and then gets benched in the playoffs,
Speaker 14: and Greasy wins the Super Bowl for him. So you know,
Speaker 14: maybe it is a combination of both of those things.
Speaker 14: But I'm more like you. I really think you go
Speaker 14: with the guy with the most experience to give you
Speaker 14: the best chance to win today, and developing is really
Speaker 14: for teams that are not very good, right, and this
Speaker 14: Utah team, as you point out in the beginning, has
Speaker 14: a shot to go to the playoffs and it's anybody's
Speaker 14: game there. And I think that's something that really should
Speaker 14: be the ultimate goal for this Utah team is we
Speaker 14: got to win today. We got to win now. We've
Speaker 14: got to put the best players on the field that
Speaker 14: give us a chance to do that.
Speaker 1: Here comes the most obvious statement in the history of
Speaker 1: sports talk radio. If you're a quarterback, you need a
Speaker 1: healthy hand. If you're a kicker, you need a healthy foot.
Speaker 1: So there it is. But Scott is somebody who played
Speaker 1: the position. Help us understand the mechanics of why it
Speaker 1: is so Allen Jane for Cameron to get the zip
Speaker 1: back with an injury like he has to his hands
Speaker 1: and his fingers.
Speaker 14: Yeah. See, I've kind of gone the rounds with this.
Speaker 14: And you know, some guys have shoulder injuries or other
Speaker 14: injuries and and you know, separations and they're able to play.
Speaker 14: I had. I had a third degree shoulder separation on
Speaker 14: my throwing shoulder when I was playing for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 14: And I came back after five weeks and my arm
Speaker 14: was a rag. But I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 14: I want to play and help our team. You know,
Speaker 14: we were one of the top teams in the NFL
Speaker 14: at the time, and and I had a chance to
Speaker 14: go be a free agent, so I was highly motivated
Speaker 14: to play. When you have those injuries, it's just it's
Speaker 14: it's kind of an individual thing. Like some guys, some
Speaker 14: guys are really good at tolerating pain, like like there,
Speaker 14: their pain threshold just really good. And other guys are
Speaker 14: kind of wooses. And it's just like and and and
Speaker 14: you can't pay who they are, you know, It's just
Speaker 14: it's almost a personality thing. It's almost just how we
Speaker 14: kind of deal with with pain. I know myself, I
Speaker 14: know a lot of guys played with a lot of pain,
Speaker 14: and I'm sure that that that's happening here. I don't
Speaker 14: know that Kim probably this year, will ever get to
Speaker 14: where his hand is totally free. But to me, those
Speaker 14: two fingers, your middle finger, your your ring finger. You know,
Speaker 14: I don't know that they have you know that they're
Speaker 14: the most important thing that you have. But when you're
Speaker 14: when you're a highly trained athlete, a football player, at
Speaker 14: least for me, the slightest variation in something could really
Speaker 14: throw things off because you're so acutely attuned to your
Speaker 14: body and you know how it functions, and and you
Speaker 14: feel so many things, and you know, just a slight
Speaker 14: variation on your wrist when you release a pass changes
Speaker 14: its trajectory, you know, and you don't you almost subconsciously
Speaker 14: do it, you know. So there's just these really fire
Speaker 14: things that happened that that could easily be thrown off.
Speaker 14: I would imagine it would affect him, but I would
Speaker 14: also know that when you get out in a game
Speaker 14: and you get that adrenaline flowing, it just you kind
Speaker 14: of throw it all out the window and you just
Speaker 14: you deal with the pain after the game's over.
Speaker 1: So ultimately, as you know, you can't simulate a game,
Speaker 1: right And so if if Cameron's cleared, are you expecting
Speaker 1: some Russ to start? Does he have enough experience under
Speaker 1: his belt that he should be good to go, or
Speaker 1: you know, after taking a few weeks, not taking a
Speaker 1: few weeks, after missing a few weeks via injury. What's
Speaker 1: a reasonable expectation for Cam should he be under center
Speaker 1: on Friday night?
Speaker 14: Well, Cam, Cam's game has always been he's mobile. He
Speaker 14: makes a lot of plays with his legs, and that's
Speaker 14: that's the biggest thing that's you know, you just don't have.
Speaker 14: You just don't have game shape. You know, there's there's
Speaker 14: a thing they just called it. He's in game shape.
Speaker 14: You may be in physical great condition, but there's a
Speaker 14: different condition to a game. And the only way you
Speaker 14: get that is by having games. I mean, that's part
Speaker 14: of why they have the non conference games, preseason games
Speaker 14: in the NFL, so that when you hit the regular season,
Speaker 14: you've had enough game experienced tempo to where okay, I'm
Speaker 14: ready for it. And it does. It takes. It takes
Speaker 14: some time when you've been out. I mean he's been out,
Speaker 14: I don't know almost you know, a season and a
Speaker 14: half now and that and that's that's hard. I mean,
Speaker 14: the experience, you know, riding a bicycle, thing that's there,
Speaker 14: but the physical nuts is not. And and it's an adjustment.
Speaker 14: It's you can get by a lot on your savvy
Speaker 14: and your experience and your especially with what I think
Speaker 14: this team is, because I think there's a lot of
Speaker 14: good players that just haven't been totally assimilated into things.
Speaker 14: Because you have a young quarterback and you know, money
Speaker 14: parks and the tight ends and some of these other
Speaker 14: wide receivers are just not quite getting the same touches
Speaker 14: that I think they would if Cam was in there,
Speaker 14: and you can kind of rely on those guys more
Speaker 14: than you rely on your legs and as you're kind
Speaker 14: of getting into game shape. But the leadership, the savvy,
Speaker 14: I would take that, with the rust and the and
Speaker 14: the maybe not having game condition just yet.
Speaker 1: So Scott, it's safe to say, and the data says
Speaker 1: as much that the offense you know, with Isaac has
Speaker 1: just has it hasn't been good enough. And of course
Speaker 1: it's not all on him, and it's hard to put
Speaker 1: any of it on such a young kid who enrolled
Speaker 1: in April. But one hundred and eleventh in red zone,
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteenth and third down conversion? Are these
Speaker 1: problems alleviated instantly when Can comes back? And attendant to
Speaker 1: the question is in the meantime, as long as it's Isaac,
Speaker 1: what can be done to make this offense look a
Speaker 1: little bit more efficient starting Friday night?
Speaker 14: You know one of the things, well, let's just take
Speaker 14: the red zone to start with. The red zone is
Speaker 14: easier to score the further you're out, So maybe from
Speaker 14: like the twenty to the maybe the twelve, take your
Speaker 14: shot in the end zone because they still have to
Speaker 14: cover the field and it's easier to get those throws
Speaker 14: into the end zone. It's one way and we used
Speaker 14: to do it all the time in the NFL, and
Speaker 14: there's certain coverages you can almost predict to be one
Speaker 14: hundred percent when teams get in the red zone. And
Speaker 14: so if you get that coverage, you really like it
Speaker 14: and you take your shot, you know, twenty yard line, two,
Speaker 14: about the twelve, thirteen then and then like last week
Speaker 14: where they got to the nine yard line, which is
Speaker 14: a kiss of death, like first and goal from the nine,
Speaker 14: it's the longest you can go without getting a first down.
Speaker 14: Where Utah has done really well in the past, even
Speaker 14: with Cam Rising, is they've run the football and you've
Speaker 14: got all these tight ends and all these people, and
Speaker 14: it's like just this is big boy power football. This
Speaker 14: is who you are Utah. You know, make a commitment.
Speaker 14: If you're right there, just run it. Don't try to
Speaker 14: because it's so hard to throw in those tight situations.
Speaker 14: And it's it's it's amplified by ten when you're a young,
Speaker 14: inexperienced quarterback like you just don't know and or if
Speaker 14: you're going to throw the ball to Caleb Loaner understand
Speaker 14: how how to utilize where his asset is and that's
Speaker 14: throw the ball high. But it's not it's not that
Speaker 14: simple because in a game situation, you've got all the
Speaker 14: stuff coming at you and and you throw it too
Speaker 14: soon or throw it in accurately. You've got to really
Speaker 14: be a little bit patient and let him get position
Speaker 14: and then throw in the football. And that just takes time,
Speaker 14: It takes practice, it takes talking to but whatever you do,
Speaker 14: like be committed to it. It just felt like Utah
Speaker 14: was kind of, well, we'll try this, we'll try that,
Speaker 14: we'll try we'll kind of try all these things. And
Speaker 14: they're just a little bit better when they you know,
Speaker 14: they like take your shots the end zone, further out,
Speaker 14: run the ball when you get close, throw the ball
Speaker 14: up the kick cause it's it's it's a real weapon
Speaker 14: that they haven't totally utilized with Caleb B. Loooner. And
Speaker 14: then the third down, third down, believe it or not,
Speaker 14: that is kind of easy. You got to win on
Speaker 14: first down. You win on first down, So whatever the
Speaker 14: defense is giving you, and a lot of Utah is
Speaker 14: getting kind of this pressure look on early downs. So
Speaker 14: if you've run the ball, or throw the ball, whatever
Speaker 14: you do, succeed on first down, because then you make
Speaker 14: third down short. If you ever get to third down,
Speaker 14: and then there's a lot more you can do. You
Speaker 14: can you can throw the ball, you can run the ball.
Speaker 14: You can run the ball if it's third and short,
Speaker 14: run the ball again on fourth and short. But it
Speaker 14: just makes it a lot easier. The percentages go in
Speaker 14: your favor if you win on first down.
Speaker 1: So, if it is Isaac on Friday, what sort of
Speaker 1: game plan are we expecting. You've talked a lot during
Speaker 1: this interview about just stick to your identity and commit
Speaker 1: one way or the other. Are we going to see
Speaker 1: Coach Love maybe continue to give Isaac more space? Do
Speaker 1: you look at what happened against Arizona and reel the
Speaker 1: playbook back to simplify it, to maybe just run the
Speaker 1: football more and look like a football team? Who's head
Speaker 1: coaches Kyle Whittingham. If it is Isaac on Friday, what
Speaker 1: do you think the offensive schematic attack looks like? Scott?
Speaker 14: So usually in bye weeks you kind of look and
Speaker 14: you go, who are we? What's our identity? Who? What
Speaker 14: are we known for? We're tough, We're physical, we're going
Speaker 14: to run the football, and I would I would anticipate
Speaker 14: that's what Utah's You know, we've got to stop the run.
Speaker 14: Arizona State it's a very good run team, So you
Speaker 14: got to stop the run. You got to run the football,
Speaker 14: and that that's that's where it's going to focus. And
Speaker 14: so everything offensively plays off of the run, and that
Speaker 14: means play action. But if you're going to run the football,
Speaker 14: you better expect that they're going to bring pressure the
Speaker 14: run pressure, They're going to put more guys in the
Speaker 14: tackle box than you have there to block, and so
Speaker 14: you've got to have answers to that. So you do
Speaker 14: get that win on first down because teams know if
Speaker 14: we can stop Utah on first down, we pretty much
Speaker 14: are going to lock them down and so that first
Speaker 14: down becomes huge. So bringing in the extra blocker or
Speaker 14: bringing in more tight ends on early downs play action.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of throws that Utah has, especially to
Speaker 14: the tight ends in the short to intermediate area on
Speaker 14: early downs that have always been a really large component
Speaker 14: of this team. So I would expect seeing a lot
Speaker 14: of that. And the other thing I haven't seen a
Speaker 14: lot of is wide runs. You knows where's de John
Speaker 14: Stanley or Money Parks on these sply sweeps and these reverses,
Speaker 14: because there's so much of the run has been straight
Speaker 14: ahead into the inside, and maybe you'll see a little
Speaker 14: bit more of that as it goes forward, but everything.
Speaker 14: If I'm a betting man, which I'm not, but if
Speaker 14: I was, I'd say that's what Utah probably would do.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you've seen from Isaac when he throws
Speaker 1: his ironts. Because statistically, one hundred and thirteen FBS quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have less than seven picks. Isaac is right there when
Speaker 1: it comes to the national rankings with seven interceptions. It's
Speaker 1: never on one person or the other. Are you seeing
Speaker 1: bad decisions? Are you seeing broken routes? Are you seeing
Speaker 1: a rushed young quarterback?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 1: Scott, from your trained eye do you see when Isaac
Speaker 1: throws the picks?
Speaker 14: So a lot of it is you predetermined in your
Speaker 14: head where you're going. You've practices play all week in practice,
Speaker 14: and you've just always thrown it to this guy and
Speaker 14: for whatever reason, the defense and you just don't have
Speaker 14: enough game experience to know, well, they changed the coverage
Speaker 14: on you. So you've got to see what they've changed
Speaker 14: and you've got to adjust accordingly. And so a lot
Speaker 14: of the throws, a lot of the interceptions have been
Speaker 14: kind of uh, he's predetermined in his head where he's
Speaker 14: going with the football before the play actually happens. And
Speaker 14: and that's and and all quarterbacks have done it. I'm
Speaker 14: guiltiest charged too, h where you have to see the
Speaker 14: play when when it actually develops. And then the other
Speaker 14: thing is, you know, you're in high school and you
Speaker 14: can get away with certain throws and and here at
Speaker 14: this level, there's there's you just can't. And you're also
Speaker 14: in an offense. In high school, he throw ball fifty
Speaker 14: million times. It's like if you throw an interception or two,
Speaker 14: it doesn't matter because you're gonna throw a whole lot
Speaker 14: more more touchdown passes than that. And so there's there's
Speaker 14: been a little bit of a cavalier casual attitude about
Speaker 14: some of the throws, and a lot of those have
Speaker 14: been down in the red zone where you're you're just
Speaker 14: you're not seeing what's really going on, and you're you're
Speaker 14: you're you're not making the clents row and so it's
Speaker 14: so much about you have to see the picture as
Speaker 14: it unfolds. You can't predetermine anything in your head and
Speaker 14: then you just react off of that picture and that
Speaker 14: that comes through practice and repetition and experience and time.
Speaker 14: But a lot of his a lot of his interceptions
Speaker 14: could be avoided and and and probably will in the future.
Speaker 14: If they don't, then then he's not your guy because
Speaker 14: if a guy can't learn from that and grow and develop,
Speaker 14: then you can't really trust that guy to be on
Speaker 14: the field and not throw interceptions.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, before I say you lose, the Arizona
Speaker 1: narrative leading into the game last Saturday was they wanted
Speaker 1: to make it a get right game after getting trounced
Speaker 1: by k State. They had to buy and then they
Speaker 1: rolled into Rye cycles and they had to get right game.
Speaker 1: In the Scott Mitchell opinion, a get right game for
Speaker 1: Utah on Friday night looks like what.
Speaker 14: Well, you know, when you have a bye week, sometimes
Speaker 14: you go, oh, we don't want to have a bye
Speaker 14: week because we'reun a roll. In another case like what
Speaker 14: happened to Utah. Now we need a bye week so
Speaker 14: we can get back into rhythm. And I'm going to
Speaker 14: go back to what I said earlier that a get
Speaker 14: right game for Utah. Stopping the run and running the
Speaker 14: football and everything else. This has been a Kyle Whittingham staple.
Speaker 14: I swear he says it to himself every night before
Speaker 14: he goes to bed and when he wakes up in
Speaker 14: the morning. We're going to stop the run and we're
Speaker 14: going to run the football. And that's who he is
Speaker 14: and that's who this team is. And you go back
Speaker 14: to those basic things about playing aggressive, keeping it simple,
Speaker 14: letting guys fly around the field and just react and
Speaker 14: just go play, come off the ball, and just just
Speaker 14: kind of knock them in the teeth. That physical play
Speaker 14: is what Kyle's been really known for, and that, to
Speaker 14: me is what it will take for this team to
Speaker 14: kind of get back and get right.
Speaker 1: So are we talking double digit win? Are we talking
Speaker 1: cover the spread? Are we talking get the hell out
Speaker 1: of Dodge with a win? What does it look like Friday?
Speaker 14: Well, it's always you know, win. But you've got to
Speaker 14: be explosive offensively in this league, in college football in general,
Speaker 14: the rules, the way everything is. If you can't score
Speaker 14: thirty points in a game, I don't believe Utah's defense
Speaker 14: is is dominant enough to just hold people down and
Speaker 14: win those close ones. So you got to you gotta
Speaker 14: score if you score thirty points. So you can still
Speaker 14: run the football and score thirty points. It's not five.
Speaker 1: Mike drop from Scott, little dialtne action. It's all good.
Speaker 1: It's all good. We got to get a break anyway.
Speaker 1: Appreciate Scott's time. Utah football is back this week. Our
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Speaker 1: it's in our state. This week, it's a historic week.
Speaker 1: We get pro hockey. The NHL makes its official debut
Speaker 1: tomorrow with the Chicago Blackhawks in town and coming up
Speaker 1: on Thursday, the PGA Tour returns to the state of
Speaker 1: Utah for the first time in sixty years. Patrick Manning,
Speaker 1: managing partner Black Desert Championship around the corner. Back on
Speaker 1: the show, Patrick, Happy Monday. How are we doing.
Speaker 5: Doing great?
Speaker 14: Ben?
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm well, so simple first question, are you
Speaker 1: guys ready? As I told you a few months back,
Speaker 1: I had the very very fortunate opportunity to play the
Speaker 1: track and check out the resort, And as I walked
Speaker 1: into the makeshift club house you guys had in the trailer,
Speaker 1: there's a sign that said don't worry, We'll be ready
Speaker 1: or something like that. So now that it's here, are
Speaker 1: we ready to roll? Patrick?
Speaker 19: We are rolling. We had the Monday pro am today
Speaker 19: and I talked to I.
Speaker 20: Don't know thirty forty of the players that that have
Speaker 20: been out on the course, and I think the most
Speaker 20: common words out of their.
Speaker 19: Mouth is I had no idea, meaning that the resort
Speaker 19: is just unbelievably nice. The course is an unbelievable shape.
Speaker 20: I even sent some photos, aerial photos off to the
Speaker 20: PGA tour and they said they didn't believe they were real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can believe that even if. Yes, someone
Speaker 1: who's lived in the state for twenty five years, I've
Speaker 1: never quite seen anything like it. So now we know
Speaker 1: the field. The field has been released, we were waiting
Speaker 1: for quite some time to try to figure out who
Speaker 1: we were going to see down in Saint George for
Speaker 1: the Black Desert Championship. I wonder if you could take
Speaker 1: us behind the scenes on the work you guys did
Speaker 1: to try to attract golfers to come down to Saint
Speaker 1: George and your reaction now that the field is finalized.
Speaker 20: Well, I mean, I we didn't do a whole lot
Speaker 20: other than we you know, we had Mike Weir and
Speaker 20: Zach Blair and Patrick Fishburne and some other guys that
Speaker 20: were out really telling everybody, hey, this is this is
Speaker 20: a no joke.
Speaker 14: This is like a.
Speaker 19: World class golf course. And but we didn't do a
Speaker 19: whole lot more. The folk we wanted to accomplish in
Speaker 19: this first year is going to get a great field,
Speaker 19: which we have, but then really just show the world
Speaker 19: how beautiful this area is, how fantastic the course is,
Speaker 19: what a game change of a resort, Black Desert Resort is.
Speaker 19: And then like I'm going, Tim West is like the
Speaker 19: player whisperer, and he was out there today and he
Speaker 19: just said, Patrick, this is this is the nicest place
Speaker 19: I've seen, Like it is the best.
Speaker 20: He's like, these guys are talking in you know, I
Speaker 20: was talking to him yet last night and player dining
Speaker 20: and he's like, they're all whispering, Like we had no
Speaker 20: idea this was gonna So that's all we want to
Speaker 20: accomplish is how these guys have a great time, treat him,
Speaker 20: treat him really well, and then in year two, let
Speaker 20: they're like pack in a great field. This year we're
Speaker 20: gonna have We're gonna have a great time.
Speaker 19: We have a great field. We're just gonna build upon it.
Speaker 1: I wonder I know a lot of people up here,
Speaker 1: and every time I would talk about it on the show,
Speaker 1: get a lot of messages like, is there any chance
Speaker 1: Tony's gonna play? Can well Tony fen out play? He's
Speaker 1: not in the field, Patrick, Can you shed some light
Speaker 1: on any potential conversations that took place. Where was there
Speaker 1: a chance that we were gonna see Tony this week?
Speaker 1: Down there?
Speaker 19: There was a chance he was trying to work some
Speaker 19: things I've been really I gotta I gotta take my
Speaker 19: hat off to him. In the end, he had promised Drace,
Speaker 19: his son, who's going to be playing in his first
Speaker 19: national tournament. The same week as our tournament, and he's capping.
Speaker 19: He's the captain, and so he's just like Patrick, I
Speaker 19: can move all the other things, but I just can't
Speaker 19: tell my son, never mind, I'm not going to captain
Speaker 19: your first your first national tournament.
Speaker 1: Well, that's entirely understandable, and as you know, that's completely
Speaker 1: on brand for who Tony is, right, absolutely, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: So a really cool story. And you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of our local TV stations went down to interview jay
Speaker 1: Don Blake, and I can't imagine Patrick, what it must
Speaker 1: be like for a Saint George boy to start his
Speaker 1: five hundredth PGA Tour tournaments in his own backyard. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was crying when he received the news he was
Speaker 1: getting the sponsor exemption. Talk about this dynamic, pretty cool
Speaker 1: story down South.
Speaker 19: Yeah, this is the type of stuff you can't even
Speaker 19: make it up. Like you said, he grew up as
Speaker 19: a little boy here playing in the parks because he
Speaker 19: couldn't afford the golf course, and his mom drove him
Speaker 19: around to tournaments eventually, and they slept in their car
Speaker 19: and got cleaned up in gas stations, and you know,
Speaker 19: as you know, he became an incredible golfer and four
Speaker 19: hundred and ninety nine tour starts is just an amazing accomplishment.
Speaker 19: But he tried for ten years at Monday qualifiers. He
Speaker 19: tried every he wrote letters asking for exemptions, and he
Speaker 19: just couldn't get his five hundred and he had given up.
Speaker 19: And us bringing the Black Desert Championship to Southern Utah
Speaker 19: right in his backyard, literally only a couple of miles
Speaker 19: from where he grew up, that was just too good
Speaker 19: of a story to pass up. So I surprised him
Speaker 19: with a sponsor's exemption for him to get his five hundred.
Speaker 19: He's gonna start that just here in a couple of
Speaker 19: days on.
Speaker 1: Whole One, Patrick, I have the forecast pulled up for
Speaker 1: this week, and just so you know a little breaking news,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be warm. It is going to be very
Speaker 1: hot down there. Yeah, I wonder what sure? Sure? And
Speaker 1: you know, like ultimately we're gonna blink and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be snow up here and it's not gonna be as
Speaker 1: warm down there. That's the deal. But are there any
Speaker 1: unique challenges that the heat brings for you guys this
Speaker 1: week as you're putting on this tournament.
Speaker 19: Uh no, not really.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 20: We're unfortunately having to overwater a little bit early on,
Speaker 20: so the greens have gotten they slowed up a little bit,
Speaker 20: but we're gonna turn the water off and firm them up.
Speaker 20: And it was just a little bit more, a little
Speaker 20: bit more work, but no big deal.
Speaker 1: So enlighten me on because we've been talking about this
Speaker 1: a little bit. Do you have a five year commitment
Speaker 1: from the tour?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 1: Obviously it's great to have it this year, but it's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere for a while. Is that correct?
Speaker 5: That's correct?
Speaker 19: Yeah, we we intend. When I say we, I'll stand
Speaker 19: the PJ Tour intend to do this like for decades. However,
Speaker 19: we have to have a contract term. The contract term
Speaker 19: to begin with four years. They were willing to go
Speaker 19: seven to start with. It's kind of a long story.
Speaker 19: We didn't want they didn't want to change title sponsors
Speaker 19: during a contract term, and we didn't want to commit
Speaker 19: to being the title sponsor for seven years. So we said, okay,
Speaker 19: let's do a four year contract and revisit because you know,
Speaker 19: it's expensive to throw these things on and walking away
Speaker 19: from title sponsors means we're putting in a whole bunch
Speaker 19: of millions to put to pull this off every ear.
Speaker 1: So what have you learned throughout this process? You know?
Speaker 1: So moving forward over the next three years, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say you can do it better because I
Speaker 1: don't know how you're going to do it. We're going
Speaker 1: to find out this week. But you know, the first
Speaker 1: time you do anything, it's hard. First time I sat
Speaker 1: in front of a microphone. I'm sure I was horrible
Speaker 1: at this. Some people probably tell you I'm still bad
Speaker 1: at it. But the first time you do something, it's
Speaker 1: not easy. This is your first experience. What are some
Speaker 1: of the lessons you guys have learned?
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 19: I got to say we are really fortunate. We have
Speaker 19: an amazing tournament director, John Coolbaugh. We have an amazing
Speaker 19: set of consultants that run every year for the last
Speaker 19: ten twelve years the Farmer's Insurance Open at Tory Pines.
Speaker 19: Their whole team is here, and we have a lot
Speaker 19: of supportive people who have been doing this for years
Speaker 19: and years at the highest level.
Speaker 20: And so I feel like we're pretty dialed in year one.
Speaker 20: I think the PJ Tour said this is looking like
Speaker 20: a year three tournament. In year one, so good job,
Speaker 20: and so I think everything's pretty smooth, but we're gonna
Speaker 20: find out there might be a few hiccups. And I
Speaker 20: can probably answer that question better post mortem than I
Speaker 20: can before the tournament gets going.
Speaker 1: For sure. I don't suppose you'd be so bold this
Speaker 1: to give me your pick to win the thing, will you?
Speaker 14: I don't mind doing that.
Speaker 19: I'll roll out Patrick Fishburn.
Speaker 1: Ah, Patrick Fishburn, very nice, very nice. Well, Hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Anything else you want our listeners to know,
Speaker 1: Patrick before I set you loose.
Speaker 20: Oh one more story I think a juxtaposition to Jayden
Speaker 20: Blake getting his five hundreds. We have Key Akina that's
Speaker 20: in the field as a sponsor exemption, and I.
Speaker 1: Love this story.
Speaker 19: He's eighteen years old at Lone Peak High School. He's
Speaker 19: a number seventh ranked junior in the world. And I
Speaker 19: was sitting with he and his dad Alan over lunch
Speaker 19: and I said, I said, Key, how many PGA tournaments
Speaker 19: have you been to? And his dad then and said,
Speaker 19: he has been begging me to take him to a
Speaker 19: PGA tournament since he was five years old, and I
Speaker 19: pulled him every single year at KYA. The first time
Speaker 19: you go to a PGA tournament. You'll be playing in it?
Speaker 19: Oh wow, is eighteen years old, never even been to
Speaker 19: a PGA tournament.
Speaker 1: Oh that rules. That rules well obviously for me as
Speaker 1: somebody who's really learned to love this game. I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: for you guys and appreciate the efforts to bring PGA
Speaker 1: Tour golf back to the state. Wish I could be
Speaker 1: down there. My day job calls. Maybe one day I'll
Speaker 1: have more control over my time, but I appreciate your time. Patrick,
Speaker 1: good luck this week.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, Patrick Manning and the managing partner. As the
Speaker 1: Black Desert Championship descends upon Saint George. The Black Desert
Speaker 1: Resort starts on Thursday, rolls through Sunday, marks the return
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Speaker 1: I get it right, there we go. See, I'm a
Speaker 1: man in my mid forties, you're almost obligated. Well, a
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Speaker 3: I want to say whom, but I don't know if
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Speaker 3: Right, And that's the Larry connection as well. I believe
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Speaker 2: So there's the connection.
Speaker 1: Well, the only thing you need to know is my
Speaker 1: fantasy football team is about to go in five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad. It's a bad scene and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: built a dynasty. I usually win the league or finished
Speaker 1: top three, and I might not make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2: Every empire falls at one point.
Speaker 1: But well said, this is kind of like the Pats falling.
Speaker 1: I've been, you know, the Belichick Brady Pats in this league.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm the Jets.
Speaker 2: It's bad speaking of the Jets.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we don't need to do anything about
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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Your Cowboys got a lucky win, so go
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Speaker 1: My first overall pick number Nobody gives a rip about this,
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Speaker 1: has hurt, Nixon's missed a couple of weeks. I started
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Speaker 3: And what's the percentage you think on starting zero to
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Speaker 1: Not high, it's low, It's very low. I don't have
Speaker 1: the data in front of me. Maybe we'll get our
Speaker 1: PFF guys on it, but I'm I'm in serious trouble.
Speaker 1: And missing the playoffs makes you really sad when everyone
Speaker 1: else is, you know, in the playoffs going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Especially the NFL, like half the league makes the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Now I don't. You don't have to rub it in,
Speaker 1: but yes, we have a ten team league and eight
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Speaker 1: may be one of the two teams that doesn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs.
Speaker 3: You may sneak in at that point. I don't know
Speaker 3: if your roster holds up at the end.
Speaker 1: We shall see, we shall see, right, Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: comes away coming up next, should be a good one.
Speaker 1: Kansas City's a five point favorite over New Orleans in
Speaker 1: the in arrowhead, so she'd be a good one. You
Speaker 1: have playoff baseball tonight. Me and coach Witt will be
Speaker 1: chairing for our Yankees. Texting back and forth about ASU film.
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. It's my Monday Night Porter.
Speaker 1: What comes our way? On a Tuesday show.
Speaker 3: On a Tuesday edition of the program, Pablo mastro any
Speaker 3: coming off of a weekend where oursel did get a
Speaker 3: few points. Spencer Hall stops by the program, of course,
Speaker 3: talking some college football with him. We'll give you our
Speaker 3: big twelve power poll. John Wright, of course, talking some
Speaker 3: PGA tour. We're gonna have a golf guest almost every day,
Speaker 3: maybe every day this week, depending on how it fills out.
Speaker 3: And then of course Dave Fox joins us on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Two pelotons too. I means I will be down at
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