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Speaker 1: What is of Fellasiko's I Am Dampa Valley coming at

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you with Mort Gensen of the NBA podcast, Fame of

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the Yahu Sports, Fame, of a sports fame, and of

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only fans celebrity. The NBA Playoffs have started, and guess what,

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we're not going to talk about them, only a game

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for each series in the books. We'll have something up

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later this week on just some of our biggest takeaways

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and observations so far. We didn't want to hit them

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just yet. We want multiple games under our belts, so

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we are instead going to catch up on a lot

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of turnover happening around the NBA in the aftermath of

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the close of the regular season. We have not discussed

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at all at length, with the exception of Moret and

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I did talk about Michael Malone in Calvin Booth being

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dispatched let's call it from the Denver Nuggets. We will

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not be discussing that, especially because they're in a playoff

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series right now before we get started, though. A lot

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of just crucial decisions being made around the league. Moret,

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how are you doing.

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Speaker 2: Doing well, sir? Going well?

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Speaker 3: It was such a new stump over the past few days.

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Well week pretty much of firings and hirings and like

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it's all confusing and great and very typical of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with it. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. I will say it is atypical to me

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in the sense that we don't normally see per year

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this much top of the line front office upheaval.

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Speaker 2: That is true, Yes, that is true.

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Speaker 1: You're normally focused on coaches and now it's oh, all right,

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bye bye Landry Fields.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that seem like a good place to start The

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Atlanta Hawks, Landry Fields, their general manager, has been fired

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on C Salah will be promoted to GM and the

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search for a president of basketball operations is already underway.

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Sticking with that, just what are your impressions of them

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going in this direction and do you think it could

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mean anything for just Quinn Snyder since we know I

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know that you know Salah's a member of this front

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office already, But don't new front offices tend to like

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to make their mark by making their own coaching higher.

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That's that's just something I have circled here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same, same.

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Speaker 3: I don't think any coach can can sit there and go, oh, yeah,

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my job is safe when you see a major change

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in management. You know, I it's not one of those

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things where it's like totally greeches or anything like. I

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could see why they would look at the whole Deontay

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Murray experiment and say, oh, we lost a lot of

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assets in that one, like we have to do something else.

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But then you would kind of wonder if the timing

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of it all. But you know, you got the first

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pick last year, you got Zakar RuSHA Shane there. I

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wonder if they also just kind of felt like, all right,

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now might be the time. And adding to the speculation

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in my perspective is also if you were skeptical of

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Lanthry Feels going into this summer, and you were also

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considering training Trey Young, that's probably a situation where you

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want a new general manager to make that trade to

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just basically say, Okay, we can't have the guy we

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don't really trust anymore to do that trade. We need

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someone else. So I suspect that everything outside of a

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few exceptions is like open for business in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how I would take it too. And

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it's also just there's kind of a natural pivot point

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for them, and also I do respect. I guess you

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could argue that even maybe you should have done it sooner.

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But did you want Landry Fields? I know they didn't

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do anything super nuclear at the deadline, but you traded

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DeAndre Hunter and bo done by Donovic. You don't want

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Landry Fields heading up this draft process or like free

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agency plans however you like, however you plan to go

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about that Trey Young exten challenge role this summer could

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sign It'll be a four year, two hundred and twenty

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eight point six million dollar max. I would have assumed

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that they were going to offer it to him, and

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I think I'll be curious, you know, wrestler, the ownerships

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like the owners Excuse me? Is it going to be

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a stipulation that the next executive needs to keep Trey

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Young because they still have like some of those few

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like that future. So this year's pick, okay, already going

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to San Antonio, but you kind of have control. What

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is it twenty twenty seven, and then the swap writes

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next year? So your next two first round picks or

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oh to San Antonio? Are you going to give the

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next executive the latitude to say, hey, if I want

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to tear it down and trade Trey Young over these

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next two years, even just the next year. I'm just

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curious as to whether that person's gonna have the freedom

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to do it. But it is regardless, just because he

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is extension eligible, you have kind of reached a natural

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pivot point. I would think, do you think if you

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if you were coming in, yes, what is your pitch?

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Here is it? We're gonna strip it down, We're gonna

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trade Trey Young and kind of rebuild around Jalen Johnson,

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Resa sche and Dyson Daniels. Is it? And by the way,

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that's the other thing that goes into all this. They

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have other free agents like Nance Lavert Capella or all

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free agents. I think Levert's clearly the most important one

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of those three. Dyson Daniels is extension eligible now coming

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off a third season in which he's probably gonna finish

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or he will finish. We got the confirmation he's top

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three in Most Improved Player voting and will be mentioned

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on the All Defense discussion as well. Yeah, a lot

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of just maybe not a lot, but there I would

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say two pretty significant decisions coming in just with the

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Daniels extension and the Trey young is extension and just

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future with the team.

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Speaker 3: I mean to answer your question, yes, I I would

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absolutely come in here and make the pitch of well

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size because size again is so important in the NBA.

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We've seen like a return to size. When you have

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a six to eight, you know, compole guard averaging three

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steals per game.

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Speaker 1: You have a.

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Speaker 3: Six ten power forward who's lanky, athletic, who can play

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make Now you have.

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Speaker 1: A six nine can't stay healthy though, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's that's right. So that's not let's put a pin

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in that for later on because that's gonna be relevant.

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But like that, you know, still when when healthy, Jalen

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Johnson is amazing. So you have like great positional size.

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That the if we want to label Dyson Daniels to two,

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let's do that like the two, three four. You don't

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really have a big center. I love on Yako Kongo,

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you know that. I've been talking them up for years,

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but six eight centers usually don't really fare all that

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well unless they're basically Al Horford, and if memory serves,

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Horford is actually six', ten not anything about. It SO

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i wouldn't be shocked if they were looking at that

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draft pick disadvantage and, Going, okay how can we replenish

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our cupboards a little, Bit, well that Means Trey. Young

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now that's a huge. Loss so you can't just go

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out and get draft picks you. Need you're also because

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not a lot of teams have cap, space so you're

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gonna have to take some money. Back presumably that type

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of money would be attached to a player who can

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come in and participate right off the bat and would

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help aid, that you, know the big defensive lineup.

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Speaker 2: That they seem to be.

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Speaker 3: Brewing WHAT i like about that deal though or not

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that deal with that, scenario that vision Is Zakari Risha

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sek looks like he will be pretty decent offensively as.

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Well we Know Janiel johnson can produce. Offensively Dyson daniels

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very much improved offensively this year as. Well so like

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they have these three guys who can actually play both

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Speaker 2: Floor that is.

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Speaker 3: Somewhat a typical for the for teams that are trying

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to rebuild a little. Bit usually you have like a

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one way player and then you have a couple of

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players where you don't really, know like is this guy

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going to struggle? Defensively is he going to be only,

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like you, know fifty percent defense one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Offense, like what are we looking at? Here?

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Speaker 3: Here you have three guys who you just, Know, okay

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we're gonna play balls of the, wall both sides of the.

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Floor that's that's pretty huge because it kind of allows

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you to, say all, right since we don't control our

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own draft, picks but by by a trading Trade, young

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we will control other draft. Picks we can actually focus

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on winning because we don't have to. Tank if we're

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in the control of other people's draft. Picks that gives

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us all the incentive in the world to try to

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win and be. Competitive it's basically the best of both.

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Worlds AND i think that's the.

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Speaker 1: Pitch, YEAH i would allow the next person to go

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that direction if they pitch it, ADEQUATELY i would allow

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it to be on the. Table BUT i kind of

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also look At Trey young And i'm, Wondering, right he's

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one year out from a player. Option you don't trade

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For Trey young unless you know you're gonna keep. HIM

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i still don't have the team that's gonna come in

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and give you a like a best of both worlds

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kind of package to, me AND i think that's probably more.

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PROBLEMATIC i would, Think, look if you're asking, me do

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you want to trade For Trey young Or John, moran

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if it was between those, Two i'm probably higher On

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Trey young at the. Moment, Yeah but, LIKE i don't,

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know is that a super high bar to clear right?

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Now and SO i look at teams that might be

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in the market For, LIKE i don't think he's An

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orlando player because of the expense and just the amount

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OF i know he's gotten a little better away from the,

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ball butch is the amount of the number of possessions

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that need to be allocated to, Him AND i still

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can't get. Around i'm not saying they should go balls

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to the wall and try and win a championship and

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double down and trade more first round, picks but not

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having control over your next two first round picks does

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give me some. Unease i've even, wondered could you get

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one or both of your own ft like with San?

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Antonio do that For Jalen.

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Speaker 3: Johnson, oh For, Jalen i'm, SORRY i thought you were

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lining up a Trade young deal. Here, Yeah, okay so

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that's actually very, Interesting Like Jalen johnson would be probably

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one of the best fits along With wimpy that you

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can find at the. Four that's. INTERESTING i don't.

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Speaker 1: KNOW i actually don't love the fit just because he's

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not a good. Shooter he's, dynamic BUT i would prefer

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someone to be a better. SHOT i, Know wemby shooting

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kind of. Anything but, YEAH i. Don't i'm not saying

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it's a bad. FIT i just don't think it's the

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ideal fit, necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Sir at playmaking, four playing with an inside outside seven

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to four guy who's like the total unicorn defensively, alone it's,

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like oh my, god the potential various.

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Speaker 1: Reduced, ALSO i Think jalen John and is more of

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a malleable defender than a good defender. Too that's he.

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Speaker 3: All, right all, right the penny drops fair. Enough that's

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WHEN i see. It, Okay, See i'm not. THERE i

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love his. DEFENSE i think he individually JUST i might

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even do.

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Speaker 1: It i'm just so if you were with The, burgers

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would you Give atlanta? One OR i don't even If

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i'm In. Atlanta i'm not SAYING i even necessarily is that?

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Enough just to you would want other stuff, Too i'd, assume, RIGHT.

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Speaker 3: I, mean, ah that's a good. QUESTION i, mean, again

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we're not dealing With Eco harrison, here so we will

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have to be. Realistic, right what is a Good hawks purs,

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Trade like if the if the object is to get

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how many like first order of, business how many draft

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picks do you want back that you're previously, controlled like WHAT.

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Speaker 1: I, think and you're Trading Jalen, johnson you probably want

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like both as the, starter like we want to spot

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right back and we want twenty twenty seven back as.

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Speaker 3: Well oh this so you're not thinking this. Year you're

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not thinking twenty twenty five and.

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Speaker 1: Twelve and if FUCK i didn't even think of that. Too,

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YEAH i, mean IF i, guess if you're you would

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want another process back to. Rebuild AND i know they

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pick coming out of that De Jonta murray trade Dell,

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maybe have to give up one of the lesser favorable.

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ONES i would for sure if you get your own

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draft pick. Back BUT i Think i'd be focused more

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so on because in, theory if you're Trading Jalen johnson

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and then going to Trade Trey. Young the next two

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first round picks are going to be more valuable than this. One,

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yes they have The lakers first rounder this. Year, yeah

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they might have The kings if it's outside the top.

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Twelve SO i mean their first round pick could be

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it'll be maybe. Better then they're not gonna have their

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ow first round. Pick excuse, me, SO i, guess but

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it could be better or right in line With. Sacramento

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i'd be focused on getting twenty twenty six and twenty

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twenty seven, back and you would have Interesting BUT i

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guess if you really want. It The spurs do have

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like something Around sohan And barns and those. Picks it's

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NOT i don't know if The. Spurs The spurs might.

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Say i'm sure Some spurs fans would prefer for So

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and To Jalen, johnson if only because of the price

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right now, anyway and the health concerns of course With,

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johnson but he's a much better shooter Than Sohn, isa

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so you, know you put him next To. WENBY i

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think if it would be. GREAT i don't. Know there

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are probably other FOURS i. PREFER i just don't it's

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an interesting Exercise street because as The, hawks, like the

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starting point for me IS i need both of those

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like to control those picks back plus other. Stuff and

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If i'm The, spurs if you think they're The, hawks

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are gonna blow it up anyway and Trade Drey young

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not Necessarily Jalen. Johnson there is a chance that at

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least next year's, pick like having those swap rights could

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be pretty.

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Speaker 3: Juicy Helton johnson And Harrison barnes For Jalen johnson kind

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of works in the, offseason doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It and that seems like the right salary structure for.

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Speaker 2: Sure it actually might be a little too, much not

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to look at.

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Speaker 3: It it's like forty six and a half And jalen

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is At freddy even, Right.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah but they HAVE i think both teams will

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have enough wiggle room under the aprons for that not

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to be an.

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Speaker 3: Issue and then look if that's a big, trouble if

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that's a big, issue.

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Speaker 1: Like atlantic out a smaller salary or.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can add Both Kobe buffkin for. Example, yeah,

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YEAH i.

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Speaker 1: Don't i'm just, curious if you're The, spur do you

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think it's a Harder it's it's probably an equally hard.

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QUESTION i think For hawks fans they might just, say,

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no we're not Trading Jalen. Johnson but if you're just,

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REBUILDING i, mean if you believe it's, Him daniels And,

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resche sure you also don't want to get yourself locked into,

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well we're like losing not a, lot but not winning

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enough and also not losing, enough and then where are

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we drafting after? This at the same, time if you're,

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NOT i will Say i'm not Moving. Johnson it'd be

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a non starter to someone. Else you'd have to overwhelm

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The hawks because the appeal is those. Picks that's San.

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Antonio i'm only looking at this from The spurs, perspective

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not the rest of the.

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Speaker 3: League but like, you you'd have to follow it. Up

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like if you go that route and you actually pivot

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Off Jalen, johnson it would almost necessitate a trade young

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deal where you get the picks back that you control,

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yourself but then you Trade trey to get all of

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the outside picks as. Well, yeah just you'd have to

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load up because oh my, god their offense would just

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be garbage next year if they went that.

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Speaker 2: Route, LIKE i don't even know who they.

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Speaker 1: Call you have your. Picks that works, out, then doesn't.

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It you got to explore kind of the depths Of

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resche And Dyson.

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Speaker 3: Daniels Dyson daniels is gonna shoot like thirty seven percent

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from the.

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Speaker 1: Field but you know what average like twelve assist a.

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Gamer they just put the ball in his hands and

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make him they backed a point.

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Speaker 3: GUARDS i don't even dare think about how many turnovers

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he's gonna be tasked with twelve, well or commit?

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Speaker 1: More that is.

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Speaker 3: Fair, look that is that's interesting because like a lot

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of the conversation around The Spurs hawks like have always

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Been Trey, young, right but then they got The Aaron

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fox and it was, like well that kind of died

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if you think about, it like a core of Wemby

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Jalen johnson To Aaron Fox Stefan. Castle that is. Filthy

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that is that is. Filthy devin even forgot to sell

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like you can just throw this cell in.

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Speaker 1: There, YEAH i mean you would need him an issue with,

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that just like you have a lot of questionable.

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Speaker 3: Shooters yeah WHAT i mean in the, ROTATION i mean,

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yeh but like that's that Is, god that's a, filthy filthy.

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Speaker 2: ROSTER i just think it.

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Speaker 1: Would be if that if the big moves that this

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burs end up making are for two guys and The

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Aaron fox And John johnson that you can consider below

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league average. Shooters i'd have some, questions that's, all but

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it would, Again i'd be high on the, fit but

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it would just be, like can you they probably still

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have enough left over to go get A Cam johnson or.

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Somebody but then it's, like, well what are we just

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burning through all our assets right? Now we'll wenb be

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still on this side of twenty two or whatever it.

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IS i just think it's an interesting thought. Exercise what

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is if they're not gonna Move Trey, young, though is

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there a way for them to kind of, Judge, like

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isn't that also just on the table where it's If

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Trey young's willing to sign the, extension we're just gonna keep,

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him and we're just gonna try to Be we're not

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gonna triple down and do something. Reckless but we Have,

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rececha we Have, Daniels we're gonna have some other prospects

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coming in. Here you continue to Develop Jalen JOHNSON i

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might focus on AND i actually don't have a problem

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with them if They if you don't control your own

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first round, picks this this might be the most palatable

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direction for me is just go out, there try and

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upgrade the center rotation and like just see what you could.

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Do maybe you probably want some more shooting or secondary

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ball handling in here, overall especially If karroslvert's. Leaving BUT

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i don't think this is like AN i don't wanna

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say it's a desirable spot to be. In they clearly

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need to sort of pick a direction Those Maybe i'm

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just getting too hung up on their NEXT i guess

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techically their next three picks being out the. DOOR i

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just feel like that adds a layer of complexity to

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where if you're gonna Move Trey young for not your own,

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picks which we know at this point you would, be

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there needs to be a team that's replenishing you with

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prospects and other picks to an appealing. Extent and as

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of right, Now i'll echo, AGAIN i don't have the

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team THAT i think is gonna come in there with

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that type of an, Offer like Would utah when they

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Have collier And George they might not have the, Answer

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but Is utah gonna be hot For Trey. YOUNG i

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don't think.

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Speaker 3: SO i actually agree with you also that it is

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palable to like Keep trey in this situation because you

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can see what they're trying to. Do they're trying to

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negate the size of disadvantage at the one, right so

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you have like a jumbo To jumbo, three jumbo, four

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and like if you get that center in, there who

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is Not Clint capella But Clint capella sized six eleven

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seven feet at gia, long, yeah you might actually be

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able to make a run in the. East so like

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what we're looking at is Really Dyson daniel And Zachary,

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richochet obviously young. Players WHAT i Think atlanta could be

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hoping for is just waiting it out a little bit

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because obviously year One, risachet it's not who you want

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to Pair Tree young.

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Speaker 2: With you want to pair him with year Three.

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Speaker 3: Rishachet and for For Dyson, daniels it's year Five Dyson.

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Daniels so, like if they have some patience and they

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want to see this thing, THROUGH i have no issues

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with that. Whatsoever it's interesting because they do seem to

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have a lot of options for. HIM i, mean they

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have Both capella And labert coming out of the, Books, like,

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yeah you probably make it a pretty big effort in

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Getting lbert. Back Larry nance also coming out the books

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like you have.

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Speaker 1: There FORTY i think they're like forty one million dollars

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under the taxes of right now, too.

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Speaker 3: Right you can probably pivot Off Terrence man pretty easily as,

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Well like that shouldn't be a, problem especially now the

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teams can If i'm understanding it, correctly, right like they

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can trade for.

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Speaker 2: A contract into their non tax.

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Speaker 3: Emle, yeah SO i, mean is there a team out

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there that'd be willing to give him? That, Well, okay

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he's earning actually fifteen and a half, million is that

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just Over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that must be that's like fifteen this coming.

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Speaker 2: Year ah, right all, right, yeah that's that's.

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Speaker 1: The true he's at movable, anyway THOUGH i don't know

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if THAT atensi is a severely above, water but it's

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not severely underwater.

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Speaker 3: Either well, yeah, no, No i'm not saying he's he

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was more like if you wanted to clear cap, space

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like immediate cap, space that's probably a little bit rougher

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because right now Only brooklyn is projected to have like real.

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Speaker 1: Space and, yeah they're the Only detroit can get to

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like north of twenty but it's would you rather have

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twenty million and no chance of KEEPING thhj And Malik,

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beasley or would you rather have a, chance, like let's

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retain their, rights Even Malik beasley's non bird and then

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we can spend the non tax payermid, level which is

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fourteen to fifteen on its. Own, ANYWAY i, MEAN i

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guess if you need the cap space to Keep Malik

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beasley on his, own he's become super. Important but, yeah point, being,

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yet you're, right there's only right, now there's only the,

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nets which is gonna be fascinating about a team we're

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gonna talk about a little. Bit, Yeah, atlanta THOUGH i

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don't have an issue with this, Decision BUT i don't.

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KNOW i just wonder what they view his car Like

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Landry fields As cardinal sin as is if The Dejonte murray,

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trade in which CASE i kind OF i didn't think

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that they got great. Value if it was a lot

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to give, UP i was supportive of what they were

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trying to, do it was definitely a. MISS i JUST

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i am curious if that's just what they're looking. At

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WHEREAS i think the change itself could, Signal oh maybe

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they are open to the more nuclear options that are

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that are out. There they want someone new leading.

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Speaker 3: It do you think if they hadn't lost Both Deontay

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murray trades it would have been better because they they lost, both.

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Speaker 1: Well they didn't lose as right, now they didn't lose

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the second To Jontay murray. Trade they look like With Dyson, daniels.

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Speaker 3: Right, okay that's, fair But i'm suying like you have

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to look at in the moment as, well just in

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terms of like gauging trade. Value, Right LIKE i hear

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you Like Dyson daniels turn in, fantastic but like at that,

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time while he was never a throw, in no one expected.

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Speaker 2: This, no that's the same.

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Speaker 1: Thing it's the same reason for people criticizing The pelicans

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for giving up On. Daniels it WAS i, mean maybe

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they didn't give him a viable, shot but the primary

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personnel that was there was never going to be conducive

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To Dyson daniels doing what he was doing In. Atlanta

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and by the, way he was never once doing In

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New orleans what he was Doing. Atlanta so, like, yeah

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he had the floater in the, defense but it wasn't

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like he did not look like a Defensive player of

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The year type.

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Speaker 2: Player SO i was so wrong on.

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Speaker 3: HIM i was high on him coming into the, draft

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THEN i was low on him after two years BECAUSE i,

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thought oh my, god the offense is just so. Bad

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he's going to be like at best Of Menca Stipele

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and then he just gave me to the middle fingers this,

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year And I'm i'm so happy that he.

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Speaker 2: Did thank, You, Dyson but.

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Speaker 1: For, HIM i would like to see this Like reeseache

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being there okay, good AND i Think johnson, like, okay

469
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:32,200
space the floor they do, need though you're not looking

470
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,039
at this especially With bugdanovic And hunter now. Gone this

471
00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:37,640
isn't a roster that has a ton of great, spacing

472
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,319
and so if you want to kind of Maximize daniels

473
00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,480
and Even, TREY i, mean you're gonna need to make

474
00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:44,319
that a. Priority in, addition do it, right we need

475
00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:46,839
like kind of a different type of center anchor as

476
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,160
good As Onnyka kungu. Is, overall, though no issues with

477
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,279
this other Than i'm just curious as to what it.

478
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,559
LIKE i don't like The hawk's direction wasn't clear. BEFOREHAND

479
00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:59,519
i don't think and this move doesn't clarify it for

480
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:03,440
me either, way other than the belief, That, okay maybe

481
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,720
ownership is more open to tearing it down and starting. Over.

482
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,799
Yeah next on the, agenda this is, Interesting, john we

483
00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,680
are gonna talk about a playoff. Team excuse, me The

484
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,119
Golden State warriors And Jonathan, kaminga so Per stein And

485
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,680
Jake fisher over at The Steinlin people around the league

486
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:23,359
believe The dubs will look For Jonathan minga signed in

487
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,519
trade this summer when he's a restricted free. Agent he is.

488
00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,559
Not he's. Bait he was like on THE i don't

489
00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,240
want to say the fringes because he was, playing but

490
00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:33,000
he closed the regular season with his rotation spot not looking.

491
00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:36,720
Great He's Steve kurz not happy with his fit Alongside Jimmy.

492
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,400
Butler that makes. Sense The warriors are minus seven point

493
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,440
one per one hundred when they share the court. Together

494
00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,160
the shooting has been, awful the defense hasn't been. Great

495
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,960
The dubs in, general Per stein And fisher apparently not

496
00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:52,200
happy With jk's lack of playmaking, development and he did not. Play,

497
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,240
notably Maybe i'm burying the lead. Here he did not

498
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,359
play in the game one win over The, rockets and

499
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,880
so it's, oh is he even part of The dubs'

500
00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:04,720
playoff rotation like at? All so, more what do you

501
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:09,759
make of? This jonathan kaminga, Stance and just look at

502
00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:12,920
how they had an offer reportedly per The athletic was

503
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680
like thirty million or something per year at like leading

504
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,039
into the. Season they seem to have gotten lucky that

505
00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:19,920
he didn't sign. It and if he did turn down

506
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,839
anything in that, BALLPARK i don't know who's given him

507
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,799
that type of money this, summer even as part of

508
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:25,240
a sign and.

509
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:29,319
Speaker 3: TRADE i Am jack's complete lack of surprise on this,

510
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,279
one because it feels like this has been brewing.

511
00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: For a, while like even.

512
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: BEFORE i was actually surprised last last year when there

513
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,960
were rumblings about an, extension because it felt pretty apparent

514
00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,519
that those two sides were not exactly love with one.

515
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:51,920
Another so WHAT i was, expecting honestly was him to

516
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,640
get traded before the trade. DEADLINE i thought they would

517
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,559
want to get rid of that. Deal while it just

518
00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:01,119
accounted one to one on the trade field for them

519
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,359
to go into this summer knowing that his contract is

520
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,119
going to be a problem just in terms of like

521
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,039
matching and sign and trades are difficult as he to

522
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:12,599
pull off now that they hardcap, you and, OH i

523
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,680
don't envy their situation right, now AND i don't envy

524
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960
his situation right. Now he was hoping to cash in

525
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,799
like none no one here is. Happy so, yes of

526
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,200
course he's gonna move. On i'm just it's gonna be

527
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,480
interesting to see how perhaps it's gonna be no market

528
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240
like really to the point where they just, like all,

529
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:34,359
right fuck, it let's extend and let's just kind of

530
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,119
move you later, on because if they extend or, not

531
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,880
that's not an. Extension let's GET i promise that. RIGHT

532
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,759
i just wanted to say it because the REASON i

533
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:47,759
pointed out if is if you do give him a

534
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:51,720
new contract from day, one that is the outgoing uh

535
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:55,839
number of, Money like it's, yeah like that it counts.

536
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: You but you then have to hope that that contract is.

537
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,920
Movable so if you Give jonathan KAMINGA i know it's

538
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480
a smaller percentage of the salary, cap but is twenty

539
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,440
million dollars a year you. Don't it's the same bogeys.

540
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: With sim he's a free he's you can squeeze. Him

541
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,039
he's an he's a restricted free.

542
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: Agent how often do we see teams actually do? That?

543
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Though it's why everyone's scared about what The bulls are

544
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,039
going to Pay Josh.

545
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,799
Speaker 2: Giddy, well The bulls Paid Kobe white thirty six.

546
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: Million, look, look because the market you mentioned this, before

547
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,839
The nets are the only team that's gonna have cap.

548
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,160
Space they might be a team that could have interest in,

549
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,599
him but it's. Not thirty million is just would be

550
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:32,319
absurd for. Him and maybe if it's a two year

551
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,559
deal or, something but if you're The, warriors you probably

552
00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:37,039
have to match. That you have SOME i think they're

553
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,559
like twenty five million beneath the first apron or is

554
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,759
it the tax next? Year either, way like so you

555
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359
have you don't have to worry, about, oh is he

556
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,039
going to become prohibitively expensive when your? Roster, yeah you're

557
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:50,559
seventeen point four million under the. TAX i would think

558
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,000
at this, point like in, Theory i'm not even giving

559
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:55,720
him like more than seventeen million a, Year so you

560
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,599
could soak up that, space then maybe the deal age is.

561
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,400
Better but like you need him to still be, movable

562
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,240
because you're already admitting not you The warriors are admitting, That,

563
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,519
oh this isn't the best spot for him anymore While

564
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,160
Jimmy butler's, Here so why is he going to get

565
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,880
better on his next deal if you don't trust him

566
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,079
to develop as a, playmaker a rebounder defender right? Now

567
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:19,039
and the sign and trade can be fascinating because the

568
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:23,559
base year compensation, rule like The warriors have enough space

569
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,359
beneath the tax i guess that some of it could,

570
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,240
Work but depending on how much he. Gets let's, say

571
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,519
let's say he signs for twenty million just FOR i

572
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:31,920
know you know what byc. Is if he signs a

573
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,799
twenty million dollars per year, deal he The warriors are

574
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,920
only trading him as a ten million dollar. Player, yep

575
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,160
the other team is acquiring him as a twenty million dollar.

576
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,160
Player that becomes harder to work, out even in the

577
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,799
offseason when there's not a ton of teams with cap

578
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:46,880
space to, say, oh, like we have ten million dollars

579
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,559
in cap space to offset the. Differential and even if you,

580
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:53,279
do what are The warriors getting back is the others

581
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:54,759
like what are you willing to accept for? Him so

582
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,559
do you end up even in a sign and trade

583
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,599
moving him for basically? NOTHING a shorter. Cut is it

584
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480
even a hellul. PLAYER i think you hit it on

585
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,440
the head when you SAID i don't envy the spot

586
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,279
they've come in with, this they PROBABLY i Know kaminga

587
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,359
had some highs before he got injured this, year but

588
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,279
they missed the boat on getting anywhere near peak value for.

589
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,400
Him i'd be very curious to. See forget about the,

590
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,559
money but, like what is the interest? Level what is

591
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,960
a team willing to give you For Jonathan? Kaminga and

592
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,119
if it's not out, there the decision gets really. Tough

593
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,640
is we? Did we just pay him and hope that

594
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960
the contract age is. Better AND i would just caution

595
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,279
anyone who says the cap is going, up you throw

596
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,039
him into a trade une matching. SALARY i get. IT

597
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,160
i keep coming back. To this is just the most recent.

598
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,200
Example AND i don't think he's a bad. Player The

599
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:43,400
Obi toppen, deal, like no one wants another three years of.

600
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,839
That it's not a detrimental. Contract but when salary matching,

601
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,160
tool when you sign someone to be a salary, matcher

602
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,480
but you give them three or four, years it's a

603
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,200
lot different than The Bruce brown where The pacers gave

604
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:56,359
him the one plus one that was team control on

605
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,880
that latter.

606
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: Year question.

607
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: Are we undervaluing him and his market considering his, age

608
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,440
like it feels like he's been around forever because he's

609
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,119
been a topic.

610
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 2: Forever he's only twenty two years.

611
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: Old he's obviously, producing especially, offensively like his permanent scoring

612
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,599
numbers have always been very. High he's had three years

613
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,799
not including this one, though where he's been fairly efficient

614
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,880
at least around the basket from, Two like there is

615
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,880
some interior juice to be squeezed there are we, underestimating

616
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:37,559
like how some teams could be looking at?

617
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 1: Him, Yes i'm sure we. ARE i just DON'T i

618
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,680
will think OR i do. Believe excuse me that front

619
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880
offices also kind of have to look unless you want

620
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,839
him to be the, Dude like you have to, question,

621
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,599
well how does he fit as part of a larger

622
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,000
ecosystem because they're worried about him fitting in Alongside Jimmy

623
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,200
butler and that kind of LIKE i Know Jimmy, Butler,

624
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,559
okay his own force basing like that be an, issue

625
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,079
but that's not oh, ah can he play with? Him

626
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,160
like that's not a great spot For Jonathan aminga to be.

627
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000
In and it's the same questions we've had all, along

628
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,799
where it's if he's not going to be more of

629
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,400
a passor if he's not gonna be a higher, volume

630
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,279
were more efficient three point, Shooter AND i Don't i'm

631
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:14,799
sure we'll, see like if you want to put in

632
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,000
the common section or discord like, oh over the PAST

633
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
x games or this this. Stretch i'm looking at this

634
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,799
through an entire season, lens through a multi year, lens

635
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,960
and So i'm probably lower on him than. CONSENSUS i

636
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,119
would agree with you that maybe we're not looking at

637
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:29,599
this from a lot of other. Teams but let's even

638
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,759
throw assets and cap flexibility out the. Window what is

639
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,279
the team that wants to just come? Here and, like

640
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,960
he could be semi interesting In. Brooklyn that gets fascinating,

641
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,960
though because if You're brooklyn and you really want, him

642
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,279
why do you want to do his side and trade

643
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:44,400
with The? Warriors if you just had the money to

644
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,640
sign him out, right wouldn't you rather try and poach?

645
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,440
Him and if it's a, no then you've just added

646
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,480
on to The warriors, books like we've Seen Sean marx

647
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:53,200
do that in the past with with other free. Agents

648
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,839
he could make sense In, brooklyn, THOUGH i don't know

649
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,319
where ELSE i would really like to just if, you

650
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,480
if you told me the bigger thing is that he

651
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,440
would shoot like five threes a game and hit them

652
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,720
at a thirty six percent, Clip i'd come up with

653
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,279
a big list for. You but BECAUSE i don't know

654
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,160
that he can do, THAT i, LIKE i don't know

655
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,359
which teams would be that interested in.

656
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:20,079
Speaker 3: Him, okay so there might be, one and it's only

657
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,119
Because Patrick williams has been so. Disappointing but that's probably

658
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:25,359
Not i'm not even kidding.

659
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,279
Speaker 1: HERE i Think Pat williams back To Golden.

660
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,359
Speaker 2: State, well so think about.

661
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:33,279
Speaker 3: This pat isn't necessarily a guy who fits in with

662
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,960
This Chicago bulls. Team he doesn't really attack the rim

663
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,480
all that. Much The bulls aren't necessarily the grace the

664
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:45,720
best developmental. Plays if you're The, warriors like you could

665
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640
probably even squeeze more out of this whole thing if

666
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,119
you were to somehow engage in some sort not, now,

667
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,000
no not in the, summer but maybe like next year's

668
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,640
straight deadline Kuminga Patrick williams, something Because pat at the

669
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,160
very least can still space the floor at a higher

670
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,119
degree Than Jonathan.

671
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Kumenka this we agree.

672
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 1: On sure do you want maybe there with Modest busellis

673
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:09,519
though is That.

674
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:15,359
Speaker 3: It's that's where it gets, tricky right BECAUSE i Think

675
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,559
busillis is a better shooter than what his reputation. Is

676
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,640
he dramatically improved this. YEAR i think he was so

677
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,960
much better as a shooter than we all thought he would.

678
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,559
Be the question is is it? Sustainable because we've only

679
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,799
seen like one. Year we have one year of data

680
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,759
from mas As. Bussilis that's what we. Have we don't

681
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:33,720
know more than. That so that's Why i'm also, saying

682
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,960
look next year's trade, deadline so Like, dubs keep him

683
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,799
for now at a reasonable deal also so you avoid

684
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,160
the base year. Compensation just keep, him then figure it

685
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,519
out at the trade deadline next. Year but that would

686
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,160
at least be interesting to. ME i, MEAN i do

687
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,400
think that is a team that could use a little

688
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,440
bit more athletic rim running juice than what they. HAVE i, mean,

689
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:58,480
Yes busilis does, that but who else really does?

690
00:31:58,559 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: That you know WHAT i? Mean maybe you could just

691
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
down eyes and play them together without vouch in those

692
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,759
lines after the, look you could you could. WORK i

693
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:06,720
don't know if The warriors want, you you could figure

694
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,720
out a sign and trade With kminga that brings Back.

695
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,599
Vouch is that? Enough are? You and then Because i'm The, bulls,

696
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,079
like if that's what it's, Costing i'm not giving up

697
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,240
a first round, picker but is that? Enough as, though

698
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:18,680
like we're Moving Jonathan kminga For.

699
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: VOUCH i that's THAT'S i have no idea that was

700
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,079
actually that was considered at one, point not not, necessarily

701
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:26,880
but but that was. RUMORED i think like that was

702
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,519
the thing that came out before the deadline where because

703
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:34,559
obviously The vouch rumors To chicago were, apparent And kuminga's

704
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,359
name came up a couple of, times But i'm not

705
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,759
sure it was like in super serious like capacity or,

706
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,519
whatnot but it did come up here and. THERE i

707
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,720
do think that the lines of communication there are. OPEN

708
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,559
i also think The warriors would be motivated to make a, Deal, like,

709
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,440
look let's be real about. This there's a reason why

710
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,759
The spurs and The kings went back to The. Bulls

711
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:58,000
well during the trade. War, NO i, mean, look they saw.

712
00:32:57,839 --> 00:32:59,599
Speaker 1: That that's your. ETHOS i respect.

713
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,559
Speaker 3: It, well, WELL i mean it's not, wrong it's it's not.

714
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,200
Wrong they went back to that, well because they they've

715
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,440
been they tried it before and the water tasted good

716
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,319
and they could squeeze it once more and they did

717
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:10,640
and it.

718
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,559
Speaker 2: Worked so LIKE i, mean.

719
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:14,519
Speaker 1: It did.

720
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: Likewise, Buddy but like, look IT'S i THINK i do

721
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,480
think that that's a fair. THING i do think teams

722
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:26,079
call up bad teams and bad managements and, go, hey

723
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,200
guys want to, talk and, look if The warriors find

724
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,640
themselves in a, pickle perhaps The bulls could be the

725
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,359
way to unpickle. It AND i do think The bulls

726
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,039
would get a player who could spread his wings a

727
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,599
little bit more there than he could In Golden. State

728
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,240
SO i actually don't think it would be the worst

729
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:43,839
fit in the. World it just it has to be

730
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,319
an offense that's just really geared around threes and where

731
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,519
you know you don't.

732
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Win, now, guys, right what about you.

733
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Know what could be semi? Interesting, Yes utah FOR jk

734
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,039
just because he could fit With. LOWRY i, mean if you,

735
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:59,359
WANT i, mean if The warriors want to give up

736
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,799
more stuff and Get lowry market. In but that's the

737
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160
money there gets all sorts OF i don't think you

738
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,279
could even work it without Including Draymond green as part

739
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,159
of it when you're looking at their cause you Have,

740
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,920
YEAH i don't like Unless utah is gonna pay coming

741
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
to the max and then you're Throwing moody and, healed

742
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,159
you could maybe work. It But utah just not the

743
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,840
best fit With. Kessler but Because lowry can shoot the

744
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,679
three the way that sants The bah kind of, plays

745
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,920
he'd be a terrible, fit probably next To collier right.

746
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,440
Now but that's someone who could generate his own shot

747
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,760
for multiple levels in. Theory and you HAVE i would,

748
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,159
say like you have some lower leverage first round picks,

749
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,079
still but like if you're The, warriors you're probably more

750
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,440
focused on getting players. Back at the same, time if

751
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,199
it's a sign in, trade you might need to settle

752
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,719
just giving the base your compensation. Thing, okay picks and

753
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,639
some modest salary we can reroute into something else. LATER i.

754
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,599
Do you did talk me Into chicago being, interesting BUT

755
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,079
i just The bulls can't even Be, like if you're The,

756
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,119
warriors what do you actually want out of The? Bulls?

757
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Right even if it's not a great Deadline vuoch And Lonzo,

758
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:03,400
BALL i guess like that kind of, Interesting but, YEAH

759
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,880
i don't know that you're then you're waiting On, december

760
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,559
and so isn't there a chance that his value goes

761
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:08,639
sideways between now and?

762
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,519
Speaker 2: THEN i, mean, yeah it could.

763
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,199
Speaker 3: BE i MEAN i just, HONESTLY i just don't think

764
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,559
the right approach right, now regardless we're just looking at

765
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:18,599
this From Golden state's. PERSPECTIVE i just don't think the

766
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,679
sign and trade is smart in any stretch right, now.

767
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:25,119
Speaker 2: Just like luck him, up even if it's a two year.

768
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:25,400
DEAL i.

769
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,079
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't give a damn and then figure it

770
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,360
out at the trade deadline, instead because if you start

771
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,960
dealing with sign and, trades you're hardcapping. Yourself you're putting

772
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,679
yourself in. Handcuffs it makes no. Sense just they.

773
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Should be, fine just because it's only the team that

774
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000
acquires the player in the sign and trade that's going

775
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:42,480
to get hard.

776
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,079
Speaker 3: Capped, well it depends on what they get. Back like

777
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,199
you can Do. Muli you can, again you can do

778
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:51,119
multiple signce, trades right, like unless they want something someone

779
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:51,719
who's like.

780
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,639
Speaker 1: Then you, also, yeah SO i the base your conversation

781
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:57,360
makes it so confusing because they are going to take

782
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,079
back less money than they're sending, Out so you don't

783
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,159
have to worry, about, oh we're hard capped at this apron,

784
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,559
Necessarily but you're right THAT i think logistically assigning trades

785
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,840
unless it's To. Brooklyn but what is let's just let's right,

786
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,760
Now brooklyn Or detroit is like really the only feasible,

787
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,039
Example and what are those? TEAMS i don't. THINK i

788
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,360
don't like comming In, detroit like in transition could be

789
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920
kind of fun if Wise harris Isn't like if you

790
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,480
if you're still invested IN ja And, ivy you have

791
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,960
A Sr Thompson Ron HOLLAND i don't Want johnathan anywhere near.

792
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,159
That so if It's, brooklyn what do you, want Like

793
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,719
Cam johnson that might be, Something but The warriors got

794
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,679
to be the team probably sending out more in that.

795
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,599
Speaker 2: Equation that's a lot of spacing to give up for

796
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:37,599
not a lot of.

797
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Spacing, Yes per this WILL i don't know if you'll get,

798
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,800
this But per grants proprietary, metrics which he has finally

799
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,519
given me access to his, DATABASE i can confirm That

800
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:50,960
mordi is. Right that is giving, up if You're, brooklyn

801
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,599
a lot of floor spacing for not a lot of force, basing, Right.

802
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:54,639
Speaker 2: And that's that's really the.

803
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:57,559
Speaker 3: Issue it's funny how THE nba has changed so much

804
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,239
now that that just one week this that is perimeter

805
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,079
oriented just kind of snowballsh you into hell from a

806
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:05,599
trade value.

807
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: Perspective but like, YOU i will, say In Jonathan kaminga's,

808
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
defense SINCE i know, him lower on, him he's had

809
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:16,360
some pretty high extended stretches and then it's he's not

810
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,039
had and this IS i think it's a majority of his.

811
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,760
Fault but also The warriors have not given him like

812
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,559
this consistent, role like he's just been kind of an

813
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,760
injuries have now been a part of that been twisted

814
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,679
around personnel, changes seeing the ground shift beneath. Him so

815
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,559
maybe In brooklyn just with consistent, run or just on

816
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,960
another team with more consistent. Run AND i guess kind

817
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,039
of put a ball on. This this IS i have

818
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:42,159
the beholder stuff who says this all the, Time is

819
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,360
It brian Windhors it only takes one. Team they set the,

820
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,920
market and so there could be a team that comes in.

821
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,280
Here BUT i do THINK i think the point you

822
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,679
made the most salient because of the way the salary

823
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,159
cap landscape is this summer a sign and trade almost

824
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:59,679
feels if it's not. Prohibitive it's super, complicated and if

825
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,719
you can make, IT i feel like you'll be, Prioritizing,

826
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,599
oh we don't want this contract on our, books and

827
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:06,559
so you're not accepting as much as maybe you would.

828
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,559
Prefer and So i'm probably trying to roll the dice

829
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,440
and squeeze him in free agency so that oh he wanted,

830
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:15,119
thirty did he end up getting twenty or less or?

831
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,360
Something and then that would ensure that he should never

832
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,079
be this tough to move, contract because if You Jonathan

833
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,639
kuming at four years and one hundred, MILLION i don't

834
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:28,039
think that's as ready removable if he's playing like the

835
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,280
way he closed the season as many people would would

836
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,559
think it.

837
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: Is i'm wondering out loud here could The Oklahoma city

838
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,760
Thunder no be trying to squeeze him in?

839
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: There, like could we know.

840
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: If they need someone who's either going to be a

841
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,199
higher volume shooter or if they want like someone who

842
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,280
could generate their Own. No If i'm not thinking he

843
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,840
could be No no, again he might have a way

844
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,159
From Oklahoma. City that team is not, perfect but it's

845
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,199
close to, it And Jonathan comming is he's gonna come

846
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,840
In maybe butcher their spacing a little bit be a,

847
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,239
like is he could be more of a sort of.

848
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,559
Speaker 2: If he plays With? Chad is he really butchering that? Spacing?

849
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,679
Speaker 1: Okay is he gonna do you trust him to be

850
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,840
part of just like the drive and kick stuff with?

851
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,599
Them is that something you believe that he could? Do

852
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,079
or is he gonna monopolize possessions make?

853
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,159
Speaker 3: Them maybe maybe you need him to monopolized possessions in

854
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,599
the second, unit maybe you actually need someone who's just

855
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,320
constantly active around the, rims who's constantly a lot of,

856
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,039
thread someone who can come in and sort of be

857
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:26,440
a little bit of an insurance.

858
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: Policy they have the deals coming out, there.

859
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: So you're looking at what you, get some combination or

860
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,119
only one Of Isaiah, Joe Aaron wiggins or Lou dort.

861
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,199
Speaker 3: For it doesn't have to be now, RIGHT i mean

862
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,280
he could be at the trade, deadline like it depends

863
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,079
on how guys are. LOOKING i hate it, STILL i

864
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,039
hate fair enough or do you hate it because it's

865
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:46,639
the rich getting?

866
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Richer?

867
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Though, UH i think it's more along the lines of

868
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,679
The Oklahoma city making an uncharacteristically bad, decision is WHAT

869
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,480
i would characterize.

870
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: It it depends on what they're giving up, though, right, YEAH.

871
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,079
Speaker 1: I mean if you're giving Up, ISAIAH i MEAN i

872
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:00,519
really LIKE.

873
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,679
Speaker 3: I SAID i do, so but don't don't get go.

874
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
THERE i, mean, look but.

875
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 1: Why it depends on the price point because you have

876
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,519
The chet And JDub extensions, here and you Have heart

877
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:13,239
And steine on the books for at least in other.

878
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,559
YEARS i don't love. IT i thought About phoenix as

879
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:17,920
they're kind OF i don't know what the hell they're,

880
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,280
doing but IT'S i mean you talk about there has

881
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,199
to be like eight teams involved to try to make

882
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,000
like that salary cap math. Work It's i'll be curious

883
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:27,679
to see what his number comes. OUT i would say

884
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,199
the market Favors Golden state squeezing, him but we also

885
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,559
know it only takes one, team and that some teams

886
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:35,400
just don't like even if there doesn't seem like a

887
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,400
market out, there like these guys still get. Paid And

888
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,039
john Think, aminga to his, credit is a very talented.

889
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,440
Player like the physical tools are all there all.

890
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: Right last Spot and it's Again i'm not penciling him

891
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,480
him as a starter or, anything but, like would there

892
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:57,320
be some level of interest From memphis when It's TRIPLE

893
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,599
j at center where he's a four spacer and you

894
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Have comin and there just kind of roman maybe if.

895
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: You think that The kaminga can also defend because they

896
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,480
really need like a wing guy there even With Gg,

897
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,639
Jackson Vince williams And Jalen wells that its injury is a, bummer,

898
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,159
RIGHT i WOULD i would be worried with what does

899
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,239
the rebounding look? Like Triple TRIPLE j just had more

900
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,480
turnovers than defensive rebounds In game one against The.

901
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Thunder that's the issue that's always been the issue With TRIPLE. J,

902
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,679
RIGHT i mean that's it is so, hard so does

903
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,920
to find like a proper landing spot for this?

904
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,199
Speaker 1: Guy you don't be funny is If memphis cheaps out

905
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:35,199
through all this and then The warriors like IT'S jk

906
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,000
other salary and, stuff and they're trading For Jared Jackson

907
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:39,880
junior Because memphis doesn't want to foot the bill for

908
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,239
his next.

909
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,559
Speaker 2: Game, yeah you.

910
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: Can with what he's making right, now you could make

911
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,599
that deal work, Financially oh. EASILY i don't think The

912
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,639
warriors will come close to having the best offer. Though

913
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,440
If jackson was on the, Table i'm Just i'm just

914
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,920
saying that's a if you threw EVERY i don't know

915
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000
if it have to be every pick Like Jonathan minga's,

916
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:01,440
salary you'd have other money to make it. Work and then.

917
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,519
Picks i'm The. Warriors i'm probably you run into a

918
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,519
lot of the same. Issues but could you Mention dramondreine

919
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:07,840
And Jaron Jackson junior on the same?

920
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,199
Speaker 2: Team that'd be.

921
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,559
Speaker 3: FUN i do THINK i do have this suspicion THAT

922
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:19,679
jjj is kind of reserved for another team In, california.

923
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: Which one The. Kings, YEAH i was.

924
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: Thinking lakers, probably but fair. Enough.

925
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: Yep how how are they Getting how are The lakers

926
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,840
Getting Jaron Jackson?

927
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: Jr how did The lakers Get Luka Dantic they Don't.

928
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah but they don't Have Anthony.

929
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: Davis the trade.

930
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Mate, no that is.

931
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: True, No i'm.

932
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:41,079
Speaker 3: KIDDING i mean, again so it would have to be

933
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,400
one of those situations where a pig is going to

934
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:48,199
get freed up By, july and if you wait until

935
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440
the trade, headline you can probably still move some pieces.

936
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Around here's here's a fun question and.

937
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Connect, okay, ye.

938
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,639
Speaker 1: Look you're not GETTING i don't think that the can't

939
00:42:58,639 --> 00:42:59,880
you can't talk to me to The lakers having A

940
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440
bible package For i'd be shocked if The grizlies want

941
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,320
to Move Jaron Jackson. Junior i'm going to have a

942
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,079
lot of questions about where that organization is.

943
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: Head, well, again it, depends like obviously it's it only

944
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,000
happens if The grizzlies And Jaron jackson are Like, nope Like,

945
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,679
Hill we're.

946
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,599
Speaker 1: Done he's going to qualify for the Super max. Eligibility

947
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:20,679
i'd be pretty floored if he doesn't make An ALL nba.

948
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,559
Speaker 2: Team, yeah but just because he's, eligible do you want

949
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:24,039
to pay him that?

950
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:28,679
Speaker 1: MONEY i probably don't like that the full boat of the.

951
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,280
Deal but you don't have to give the full boat,

952
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,480
either and they do have they could renegotiate and extend him.

953
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,679
Too they might not even need the Super max. ELIGIBILITY

954
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,760
i one wanted to ask, you, yeah because we probably

955
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,280
unless you have another, team because it's probably.

956
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: NO i have a question on that, note by the,

957
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,800
way BECAUSE i do know that you can exceed the

958
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,119
one hundred and forty percent on A, Supermax but can

959
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:49,280
you like if the player is Super max? Eligible but

960
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,320
you said something interesting. THERE i was under the impression

961
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,159
that you can only surpass the one hundred and forty

962
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:59,119
percent veteran extension limits if the guy actually accepts the,

963
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,159
supermax like actually signs the, max that you can't get

964
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,880
him at a lower. Rate if that's, true that changes

965
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,800
the dynamics a little.

966
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: Bit well it. Didn't Did jazz Sign Rudy gobert to

967
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,519
not the supermax using that same like him qualifying for?

968
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:15,119
It he didn't get the.

969
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: Phoe, GOD i don't.

970
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,639
Speaker 3: Remember, okay, INTERESTING i need to read up on, that

971
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,599
because THEN i missed something BECAUSE i if you can do,

972
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,440
that that changes the name of the game From memphis.

973
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:27,280
DRAMATICALLY i was under the assumption and you could only

974
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,119
exceed the one and forty percent if the guy actually

975
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:33,840
signed the, supermax And i'm just, like, no you should

976
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,360
not Sign Jared Jackson junior to the supermax. Whatsoever so

977
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,519
that's actually a bit of a lucky break From memphis

978
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,559
if he, qualifies because if they can get him for

979
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,239
more money than he's earning now but below The supermax

980
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,119
because it's just, eligible and that gives them that, right

981
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480
that's a bullet dodged if you ask.

982
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: Me that's a really good question BECAUSE i was convinced

983
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,119
that you, could and now you're making me, SAY i

984
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,880
can guess That i'll probably to look that up After

985
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
but so.

986
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: Where Is keith when you need?

987
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,039
Speaker 1: Him who's more likely to not be on their team

988
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,119
at the start of next, Season Shrey young Or Jonathan.

989
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:15,199
Speaker 2: Kaminga, JONATHANMINGA i mean makes.

990
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,199
Speaker 1: Sense because he's the free. Agent but they also just

991
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,679
had this front office turnover In, Atlanta.

992
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,519
Speaker 3: So, yeah perhaps they gets traded or moved on to

993
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:25,559
someone else on the same day and we'll never.

994
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: Know or for each other or more for each. Other,

995
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,480
yeah why not our next item? THAT i, MEAN i

996
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,840
didn't necessarily want to hit. This i'm just tired talking about. This.

997
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,559
Dude Nico harrison had a not so secret press conference this.

998
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,639
Time biggest takeaways from THE i didn't watch. IT i

999
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,360
saw the comments coming away from. It he didn't Realize

1000
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,920
Luka dancic was this important to The maps fan. Base

1001
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,639
the plan is also to win enough so that fans

1002
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:53,119
forget and understand the. Logic is that even? Possible is my?

1003
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,400
Question and then says critics of the return do not

1004
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,880
really have a firm hode hold on the value Of Anthony.

1005
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,199
DAVIS i don't know where you want to take this

1006
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:03,760
THE i think it doesn't surprise me that A. C

1007
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,760
sweeter is out of touch with the. Consumer so him

1008
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,159
not understanding how much fan, base how much the fan

1009
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:11,920
base was attached To, dancic does not surprise me at.

1010
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,480
All my whole thing with the. Winning let's say The

1011
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:18,320
mavericks won a title this. Year they, Can't they're already.

1012
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,159
OUT i want to be. Clear they can win a

1013
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,039
title this, year they goin to title next, year and

1014
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:25,320
there's just still a chance that they lose that trade

1015
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,760
because they've shrunk their. Window Like Luka dancich was your,

1016
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,880
ticket and if he wasn't gonna pan, out he still

1017
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,320
was worth rolling like he was the dice roll if

1018
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,719
in so far as he's even a dice roll Of oh,

1019
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,960
no this is the next ten years of our. Franchise

1020
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,199
knowing they're going to be, competitive you don't just based

1021
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,039
on sheer, age never mind the gap between their. Talent

1022
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:49,639
you're not gonna get that with An Anthony Davis kyrie irving.

1023
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: Window Oh, God so you're saying that they might have,

1024
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,039
lost they might still lose the.

1025
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: Trade if they actually won a, title.

1026
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,559
Speaker 1: You could say that's, yeah isn't. It it's unique in

1027
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:03,599
the sense THAT i know a lot of people saying

1028
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,119
winning a championship means you never have to, apologize and it's.

1029
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,199
RIGHT i, mean when you comes at the expense of

1030
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:12,840
a generational superstar who might win multiple championships down the,

1031
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,039
line you might have to still.

1032
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,039
Speaker 2: Sure but that's. Theoretical here's What i'll.

1033
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:23,199
Speaker 3: Say they would have won the trade from a competitive

1034
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,679
perspective if they won a, championship but they regardless would

1035
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:32,400
still have lost the trade from an emotional perspective because no,

1036
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,800
one not a single, fan would have preferred winning a

1037
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,800
title like, that and how you win a title is

1038
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,039
almost equally as important as actually winning.

1039
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: It, YES i. Do that's also fair, too BECAUSE i

1040
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,079
think there's a lot of And Kirk henderson wrote a

1041
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,480
great piece at THIS i think it was At MAV's

1042
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,000
moneyball after the trade.

1043
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: About not by the, Way i'm sorry to. DRUG i

1044
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,920
just gotta Say kirk has been slain it. RECENTLY i,

1045
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,440
mean oh my, god just so. Good so his content

1046
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,840
has been. Fantastic he's been so upset AND i love.

1047
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,239
It stay, Upset.

1048
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,679
Speaker 1: Kurt it's and his point was winning with your own

1049
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:16,360
guy matters, Too AND i totally get, That like there's

1050
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,719
a lot of convoluted layers to, fandom and, Sure i'm

1051
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,400
mas FANS i think would bask in a championship Without Luka,

1052
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,039
Doncic but you're, right it's the it's the reverse logic OF.

1053
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,800
KD i hate talking about, legacies But katie winning a

1054
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,440
title with The warriors doesn't mean the same as if

1055
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,000
he would have won it In Oklahoma. City So i'm

1056
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,079
not not trying to get into the.

1057
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: Legacy Broun miami cland, yeah, right.

1058
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,679
Speaker 1: My, well yeah what means? More lebron's two titles In

1059
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
miami his title In Los angeles are the one title

1060
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,760
he had In. Cleveland's that's not even. Close so he

1061
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,440
missed the mark. There AND i take exception to you,

1062
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,199
know and you should get into this because you said

1063
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,920
something before recorded The Anty davis. Stuff is no one's

1064
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,280
Saying Anty davis is a bad, player that he's not a.

1065
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,840
Superstar he's just and it's not even about him necessarily

1066
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:06,480
being not as good As. Lukadancic the problem here is

1067
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:08,760
that if you were going to Trade, lukadancic AND i

1068
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
want to reiterate THAT i would not have, done so

1069
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:16,119
you don't pivot into an inherently shorter window as the,

1070
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,599
result there's no player in the league WHERE i get

1071
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,320
short Of jokic where it would have been worth because

1072
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,480
And shay's, Younger so that's Why i'm not using him

1073
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,000
as an. Example you trade For, jokic you're probably shortening

1074
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,079
your window a little bit because he's, Thirty but you

1075
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,920
do it because It's. Jokic that was the only player

1076
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,960
where that type of logic would have made sense to.

1077
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: Me, yeah so here's the.

1078
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: Thing if you were determined to get off Of, lukadancic all, right,

1079
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,079
fine that's that's your. Right like you, have you have his,

1080
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,280
rights you can trade. Him he is trade eligible for

1081
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,519
you to trade him For Anthony davis and only a

1082
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,239
single first round draft. Pick AND i Guess Max christie

1083
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,760
would like let's relax on The Max christie. Hype like

1084
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,480
that doubt died down pretty soon as. Well, well it's

1085
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,360
So Nico harrison said. This if you don't Value ad

1086
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,119
as an ALL nba, player an all defensive, player then

1087
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:10,719
you're not going to like the trade we TARGETED. Ad

1088
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,800
but if you don't like, him then there's nothing else

1089
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,280
we get that's going to make you excited about the.

1090
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,920
Trade you know what that? Is that is Throwing Anthony

1091
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,119
davis under the. Bus that is actually taking your newly

1092
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,440
acquired superstar and throwing him head first under the largest

1093
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,719
vehicle that you can, find because you are creating such

1094
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,920
a warped and false narrative, here, like, look if this

1095
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,079
has nothing to do With Anthony, davis The, MAVs you're.

1096
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:41,239
Sorry mass fans have no issue With Anthony. Davis when

1097
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,719
he was. Introduced they didn't boo. Him they booed the

1098
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,559
trade when they did, boo and a lot of people

1099
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,639
clapped out of respect For Anthony. Davis it's not An

1100
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:54,440
Anthony davis. Issue i've seen hundreds Of MAVs fans basically

1101
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,119
echo that sentiment and, say, look we Love Anthony. Davis,

1102
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,719
well hope he's gonna play, well but, like that's not the.

1103
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,880
Point my issue here is you just failed to recognize

1104
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,440
the trade value of the outgoing. Piece and what gets

1105
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,599
me even more is How Nico harrison basically said he

1106
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:16,239
didn't want anything to leak because that would have hurt. Negotiations,

1107
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,000
dude if things had, leaked you had gotten a better

1108
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,119
trade offer than what you ended up, accepting like this

1109
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,360
is negotiation one oh one and you utterly failed at.

1110
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,480
It it is such a preposterously bad thought out trade

1111
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,000
that you can try to spin this as much as you,

1112
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,800
want and like right now he's spinning Like Anthony edwards

1113
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,920
in the, post like an up and down and it's

1114
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,480
he's going. Nowhere it's just such a bad way to do,

1115
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:51,559
this like throwing every every player you basically traded her

1116
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:54,320
under the bus and then talking to the fan base

1117
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:57,320
as if they're complete fucking, idiots.

1118
00:51:57,519 --> 00:51:58,079
Speaker 2: Like what are you.

1119
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:02,119
Speaker 3: Doing you're alienating the few remaining mass fans around right.

1120
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:06,559
Now it's just it's NOT i, mean, look it's so.

1121
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: Bad it's so.

1122
00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:11,199
Speaker 1: Bad and to your point about leaking, IT i understand

1123
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,119
the thought process of we didn't want it to have

1124
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:17,599
this impact adverse impact on the. Team but then like

1125
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:20,440
when you're kind of in the red zone here of trade,

1126
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,079
talks that's when you let it leak because you know

1127
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:23,840
it's gonna come together quickly and you see if an

1128
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,480
offer comes in that BEATS i think the issue here

1129
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,199
was that and he said, this they laser in On Anthony.

1130
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Davis there are reports that they called About Anthony. Edwards

1131
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,880
and we're not even sure if The timberwolves knew they

1132
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,960
were Offering Luka donciic for. Him, correct we know they

1133
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:39,519
called About, giannis so it's not like they didn't do

1134
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:42,079
any due. Diligence but you decided you were going to

1135
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,559
Trade Luka doncic in the name of improving your championship,

1136
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,199
chances and that's your short term championship, chances and that

1137
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,280
is probably it's one of the Biggest cardinals, sins like

1138
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,320
being out of touch what the fan base would, think

1139
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,559
and definitely being out of touch with the. Scenes how

1140
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:00,239
Good Luka doncic is on the basketball, court for, sure

1141
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:03,599
but you made the wrong decision for. You you took

1142
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,400
the wrong approach from the. Jump not forget about the,

1143
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:10,559
leakouts it's you prioritized improving your team in the short

1144
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:15,159
term Without. Lukadancis that's not that doesn't go, that that's,

1145
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:16,320
counterintuitive beyond.

1146
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,679
Speaker 3: Measure it's all it, all, Reeks and quite, frankly it's

1147
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,760
amazing to me how we also seem to broader, wise

1148
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,440
like you AND i have talked about a, plenty and

1149
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,480
like the BROADER nba poddle spheres talked about a, Plenty

1150
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,239
but like, NATIONALLY i don't even think it's gotten enough

1151
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,840
publicity That Quentin grimes is also bawling out In philly

1152
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,760
like you have completely lost out on the entire trade,

1153
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,880
deadline the entire offseason already more or less like every

1154
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,840
like positive asset that you had is being appreciated far

1155
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,079
more elsewhere now than what you. Had it's do you

1156
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:56,119
THINK i don't even know where they go from?

1157
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 2: Here?

1158
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: No, Sorry that's WHAT i was gonna ask you is

1159
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,719
do you think what's interesting IS i think this is a.

1160
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,320
Quote do you Think kyrie's gonna extend or opt in

1161
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,960
and extend or decline his player option and sign a

1162
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,119
new deal because of the injury OR i don't have

1163
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:10,480
any idea either If i'm The, mavericks unless he's given

1164
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:14,920
me a like a huge, Discount i'm. Not i'm not

1165
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,559
doing the op let him opt in, shore But i'm

1166
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:20,119
not giving him. This it's he's he's a little, older

1167
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,000
he has to come back from a serious. INJURY i

1168
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,360
think the bigger question this does tie, into, well how

1169
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,320
much do they Pay kyrie if he opts in and

1170
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,320
extends or opts? Out there was the. QUOTE i can't

1171
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,239
remember which story where the reporting came. From but a

1172
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,360
rival executive, said there's a DESPERATE gm out there In Nico.

1173
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,760
Harrison that's good for the rest of. Us do you

1174
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,440
expect him to try and like throw good money after

1175
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,920
bad and where it's, Like, Oh i'm gonna try in

1176
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,360
Because I've i'm now tethered to this That i'm going

1177
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,679
to now make ANOTHER i don't know if it's a

1178
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,519
controversial decision or just to you, know they've been mentioned, as,

1179
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,239
oh would they go After Kevin, Durreant like do you

1180
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,199
expect them to try and make more huge, splashes which

1181
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
in the wake of The kyrie injury to where his

1182
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:05,800
timeline Is january Or february of next year of him coming,

1183
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,960
back that's, like what is the type of player you're?

1184
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,559
Targeting if you go after a floor general, type what

1185
00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:13,159
does that mean For kyrie when you come? Back, yeah

1186
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:16,639
he played Alongside lukadancic Someone Luka doncic's size doesn't grow on,

1187
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:20,239
trees so you're probably if you're prioritizing, playmaking you're probably

1188
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,199
going to be. Smaller do you even have the ammunition

1189
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,800
to go get A Kevin durant who's bigger but he's

1190
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,239
not the level of playmaker that you might.

1191
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: Need so to answer your initial, Question Nico harrison is

1192
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,960
a human. Being he's going to feel the. Pressure he

1193
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:38,760
has literally millions of people who hate him and are

1194
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,920
calling for his. Head there have been more negative articles

1195
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,440
written About Nico harrison over the past two months THAN

1196
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,800
i think he would ever have imagined over the course

1197
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,519
of his, life over the course of his. Career if

1198
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:59,159
we're looking at this, objectively every single person who's under,

1199
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,760
duress under, stress WHICH i have to assume mentally he,

1200
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,920
is would be terrified of pulling like the next, trade

1201
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:12,360
just be terrified of doing. It So i'm assuming he's

1202
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,480
gonna play it as safe as he possibly can over

1203
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,159
the next like six, months and if he goes into

1204
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:23,519
the summer guns a, blazing all, right THEN i have

1205
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:25,880
no idea like what his mental state is BECAUSE i

1206
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,280
just don't, think, like where do you go from? Here

1207
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,599
you don't know the future Of. Kyrie by the, way,

1208
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:35,119
side note It's Kyrie. Irving he's sort, of you, know

1209
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,440
an odd. Guy sometimes are we shutting the door on?

1210
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:41,320
Him basically Saying i'm not going to pick up my

1211
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,480
player option like this dude plays by his own. Rules

1212
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:48,559
i'm not saying like lots would be fascinate does well

1213
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,960
BECAUSE i mean technically working out a sign and trade

1214
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,480
with him is easier because you're not going to run

1215
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:55,840
into the base year of compensation. Issue if there's a

1216
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,079
team that's like not good right now or not sure

1217
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,960
whether the yeah we're fine With kyrie not Being kyrie

1218
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,280
next season THAT i don't know who that team, is

1219
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,400
but that would be THAT i had not considered, that

1220
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,840
what what If? Kyrie what If kyrie himself is actually

1221
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,840
so pissed at how they did things like LOOK nba

1222
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,639
Players brockley and we've seen this online for a long

1223
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:20,760
time now with the past couple of, months are pissed

1224
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,679
at how The mavericks Threw luca under the bus like.

1225
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: This i've seen.

1226
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: This but are we sure That kyrie is, like, oh,

1227
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,960
yeah you know, What i'm not interested in going into

1228
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
a sign and. Trade i'm just gonna decline my player

1229
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,679
option and sign somewhere.

1230
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: Else Like I'm i'm not even closing the door on.

1231
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,400
THAT i won't close the.

1232
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: DOOR i guess the chaos agent in me would even

1233
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,400
root for such a. THING i. AM i Am kyrie'

1234
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,480
is also a smart business man when it comes to

1235
00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:50,880
what he's made with his contract. DECISIONS i would think

1236
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:53,960
he has a ton of leverage over The mavericks because

1237
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800
of The lukadancis, trade just knowing what they even if

1238
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,440
they pay him less than he had initially, WANTED i think, it's,

1239
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:02,039
OH i can lock down this money. Now and the

1240
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,440
other thing, too is we know that he is has

1241
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,639
a pretty good relationship With Nico, harrison and we know

1242
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:08,679
that him And Anthony davis have wanted to play, together,

1243
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,480
Correct SO i think they have that work in the.

1244
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: Favor but do we know that relationship is so good?

1245
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,719
Though that's the.

1246
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,559
Speaker 1: Thing i'm sure that would be a More and if

1247
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,480
You're i'm rooting for you to be right, now because

1248
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:21,480
that would just be hysterical that he just he opts

1249
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,880
out and. LEAVES i would have felt when you're looking

1250
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,760
at the cap space climate and the fact That kyrie

1251
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,000
isn't going to play Until january Or, FEBRUARY i would

1252
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:32,800
have felt that that scenario is way more likely had

1253
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,400
he never gotten, injured, Right but because he got, INJURED

1254
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
i would Be i'd be kind of floored if he

1255
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:42,320
wasn't still In dallas next, year is my.

1256
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,559
Speaker 3: Point, No and, LOOK i agree with. You that's that's

1257
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,079
what logic. DICTATES i am just SAYING i want to

1258
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:50,719
throw that out. There, LISTEN i really hope that would.

1259
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: Be.

1260
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,679
Speaker 1: SO i think even him opting out might catch a

1261
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:56,000
lot and not, Knowing, okay they, expect like the reporting

1262
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,199
would Be kyrie eering is opted, out but it's overwhelmingly

1263
00:58:58,239 --> 00:58:59,719
expected that he's going to sign a long term deal

1264
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,599
with the. Me it would cause a lot of uproar

1265
00:59:03,679 --> 00:59:05,639
if he just opted out and that wasn't the words, like,

1266
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:07,440
yeah he opted out and he's ready to look.

1267
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,239
Speaker 3: Around, look you, know you know, what just be absolute hell.

1268
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:18,199
Fire kyrie opts, out he, says, hey he he opts,

1269
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:20,559
out and he just he Calls lebron and Calls luca

1270
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:23,159
and he goes and, remember like, You i've played for

1271
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:25,480
both of. YOU i know you guys pretty. Well i've

1272
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,639
been linked to The lakers for a while. Now got

1273
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:30,719
the non tax emily ready for me for this?

1274
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,719
Speaker 2: Year who's? That?

1275
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,159
Speaker 1: Like who's so we're just gonna?

1276
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: Have are you ready for? You and for the? Playoffs?

1277
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: BABY i DON'T i guess you would have to do?

1278
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:42,840
That but then how are you getting a Center. Austin

1279
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:45,960
that would be so. WEIRD i can't we ventured too

1280
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,000
far afield, HERE i.

1281
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: SEE i don't think WE i don't think we've gone

1282
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,239
deep enough BECAUSE i would love. SOMETHING i want this

1283
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,000
roster to absolutely.

1284
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:02,039
Speaker 1: Implode, well what about this this? Option what If memphis

1285
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:04,719
decides we're gonna be okay with having like a gap year,

1286
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:05,920
type but we want to get out of The Ja

1287
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,679
moran business and they decided they're really gonna juce the

1288
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:11,320
odds of next year's, pick and you Put jamran on

1289
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,960
the table and see if The MAVs would give You

1290
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,519
kyrie and maybe other things attached to.

1291
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: Him all, right so It's John.

1292
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,679
Speaker 3: Moran Anthony davis Played Thompson Nashi marshall as your top

1293
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:24,280
Four Washington Joe.

1294
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,079
Speaker 2: WASHINGTON I.

1295
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,199
Speaker 1: I THINK i would look at trade for everybody.

1296
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: INVOLVED i would, sue but it's not chaos, Enough. DAN

1297
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,360
i want this thing to, properly properly. IMPLODE i want

1298
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:41,800
actually explode in his face more or less JUST i

1299
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,840
want this to go bad because the way he handled

1300
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,280
business this, way the way he just threw a guy

1301
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,480
under the bus for months on end and then, no,

1302
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,119
NO i need all the humor we can find in.

1303
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:59,599
Speaker 2: THIS i need the chaos to not end for a.

1304
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: While let's move on to another organization that has no

1305
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,119
idea what it's. Doing The New Orleans pelicans Fired David.

1306
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:09,079
Griffin they Hired Joe dumars to replace him after an

1307
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:16,159
exhaustive search that lasted minutes at least Multiple David griffin

1308
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:18,679
reportedly wanted to fire head Coach Willy, green But Jale

1309
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:22,679
benson is not about that life, apparently so he did

1310
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,119
not Fire Willie, green and he got fired. Himself benson

1311
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:28,599
said didn't or not that she thought long and hard

1312
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:30,559
about Hiring Joe, Dumars BUT i guess it was Only

1313
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,840
joe New bars because no one else. Was it seems

1314
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,599
like they even considered her interviewed for. This by the,

1315
01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:38,079
way mutual Friend Schmidt dua of the in the no

1316
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:41,719
podcast and substack the reporting and the response to. This

1317
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,639
so make sure You're Schmidt, dua go Check fear The

1318
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,079
brown on all his socials spelled exactly as it. Sounds

1319
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,559
absolutely killed it with the intel on this. One other

1320
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:53,400
stipulations of. This so we think That Joe dumars has

1321
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,840
to Keep Willy, green which MAY i don't actually have

1322
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,639
a huge problem With Willy green because of all the

1323
01:01:58,679 --> 01:02:01,199
injuries that have taken Place New. ORLEANS i do think

1324
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:04,480
that he probably hasn't coaxed enough three point volume out

1325
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:07,000
of them even when they're at their. Best but it's

1326
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,880
NEVER i would, argue it's never a good harbinger when

1327
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,400
you hire an executive with the stipulation that the head

1328
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,000
coach in place has to be. Kept it's just very.

1329
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:20,000
Rarely the other part of this is the initial reporting

1330
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,320
suggested That dumars would have to Trade, zion that they

1331
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,159
would have to That, pelicans aside from the, injuries are

1332
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:28,039
not happy with stuff that's going on off the. Court,

1333
01:02:28,639 --> 01:02:31,119
however this apparently isn't a done. Deal Joe dumars is

1334
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:32,960
gonna work on his relationship and see where his Z

1335
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,039
ion is. At moret what do you make of all?

1336
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:38,559
This what direction should they go? In and does the

1337
01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:41,440
draft lottery is? This is that gonna have any impact

1338
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,599
on what they can or should?

1339
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: DO i, mean, yeah, oh, look draft lottery results always

1340
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,880
impacts the direction you're going in my. Opinion, look if,

1341
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,800
again it's it's The wempy, theory right, like even regardless

1342
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,480
of where.

1343
01:02:55,239 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: You are in your.

1344
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:59,119
Speaker 3: Rebuild if you win a wimpy, draft for, example you

1345
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:02,760
start from like you you reset the entire. Clock so

1346
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,920
it depends where The pelicans are going to land this.

1347
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,719
Year are they going to be in a position to

1348
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,159
draft a guy that warrants a reset of the. Clock if,

1349
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:14,000
SO i think that's it's easier to swallow trading a

1350
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,360
sigh On williamson and basically saying all, right we're just

1351
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,639
going to start all over, again and that that might

1352
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,280
tire out the fan base a little bit unjustifiably, so

1353
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,639
but at least they can get behind a young guy

1354
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:28,360
who has perhaps ALL nba potential or whatever who it.

1355
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Is so, so, YES i do think a lot of

1356
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,280
results will impact the direction. Absolutely that, said are do

1357
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,719
we trust That Joe dumars is the right man for the?

1358
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,280
JOB i, MEAN i know the league loved him in

1359
01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:42,960
what he did for them for many.

1360
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:43,599
Speaker 2: Years that's.

1361
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:49,199
Speaker 1: Cool architect of That pistons team and then also also

1362
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,480
the architect of those Subsequent, pistons.

1363
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: Right see the thing about the twenty two thousand and

1364
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,760
Four pistons seems that they were an. Outlier THAT'S i,

1365
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,960
understand AND i appreciate that he won that championship with

1366
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,400
them as the lead. Architect but we just have to

1367
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,159
come to terms With they're constantly brought up as the

1368
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:16,159
exception that confirms the rule of you, know you need

1369
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:19,440
a superstar to, Win like that team is the most

1370
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:25,159
odd ball team of players to potentially ever win a.

1371
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:29,039
Championship so it's, like what kind of mentality is going

1372
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:30,840
to go into this thing. With is he going to

1373
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,599
go in and, thinking, hey you know, what this is

1374
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,800
nineteen eighty nine and defense can still win the championship

1375
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:38,840
even if you're ranked like twenty fifth? Offensively is that a?

1376
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,079
Mentality is he going to come in with like a

1377
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:44,440
new age approach to? THINGS i have no. Idea so,

1378
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:49,159
like While i'm not out on A Joe dumar is coming,

1379
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:54,679
IN i do think the search that, lasted you, know

1380
01:04:55,519 --> 01:05:01,119
seconds at. Least, Look i'm just gonna say, this, Man

1381
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:03,039
i'm just gonna you AND i are. BUDS i CAN

1382
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,719
i can say, this but LIKE i last in bed

1383
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,159
longer than they do in this.

1384
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:09,199
Speaker 2: Search like That's that's Where i'm, at you.

1385
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:11,679
Speaker 1: Know John honer said, this this is just a farce

1386
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,440
of an. Organization at this, Point i've typically given them

1387
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,599
a little bit more, credence AND i THINK i understood

1388
01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:18,719
a lot of their vision AND i was higher on

1389
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,480
them if they could stay at full, strength and a

1390
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,119
lot of other people this is just it's a sham

1391
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,880
of an. Organization like, what it really sucks for the

1392
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,920
fans that are. There and the other thing here too

1393
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:33,880
is what whatever direction they choose is likely going to

1394
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,920
be the wrong. One and you also know that even

1395
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,840
if they Keep, zion what is their plan to get?

1396
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,440
BETTER i guess they bring in their draft, pick and

1397
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,960
then they're gonna hope THAT i guess To Jantay murray

1398
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,079
will eventually get. Healthy you get more development From Trey

1399
01:05:46,119 --> 01:05:48,360
murphy because this is a team that's gonna go spend

1400
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,039
on acquiring more talent via. Trade they have like twelve

1401
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:53,800
million under the luxury tax next year as of, now

1402
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:56,119
and they're not a team that's gonna pay the. Tax

1403
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,199
so we kind of know. That and then if you

1404
01:05:58,199 --> 01:06:00,760
go and you Trade, zion it's but you're not trading

1405
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,119
him at the peak of his value anyway because of

1406
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:05,039
the health, stuff even though when he has been healthy

1407
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:09,119
he's played exceptionally. Well and you've also this isn't necessarily their.

1408
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:12,280
Fault if they're off court, issues but people know now

1409
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,159
that you want to trade him or that his standing

1410
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:16,760
there just isn't on firm. GROUND i just don't know

1411
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,119
the team that's. Good, like there are a ton of

1412
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:19,960
teams THAT i it'd be interesting to see him On.

1413
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,400
Portland utah would be one of. THEM i actually wouldn't

1414
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,320
even hate San. ANTONIO i KNOW i was talking about

1415
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,960
spacing Around. Wemby you could throw him on a bunch

1416
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,920
of teams and be. Interesting, BROOKLYN i just what are

1417
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
you gonna get in His zion? Trade AND i also

1418
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,159
like there doesn't because of the way his contract is

1419
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:37,840
set up. THERE i don't think there needs to be

1420
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,519
a rush to be, no we need to get rid

1421
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:43,920
of this guy unless he's submarining the culture of everyone involved.

1422
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,599
Somehow this is more of an organizational issue than anything

1423
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:48,199
else to, me.

1424
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:51,519
Speaker 3: Right and that is definitely the issue at, HAND i,

1425
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:54,280
think because, yeah you can talk about all the things

1426
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,000
That doumores is going to, add but if you didn't

1427
01:06:56,119 --> 01:06:58,159
have an exhaustive, search if you don't didn't go out

1428
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,920
and play the field and figure, out like what direction

1429
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,440
do we want to go? In it seemed like you

1430
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,559
had this guy lined up for a long, time which

1431
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:07,480
also means that Keeping David griffin around for so long

1432
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:11,400
and even having having go through a trade deadline trade Brandon.

1433
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:14,079
Speaker 1: Ingram, also it's just like that was a not insignificant.

1434
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,000
Move we knew it was, inevitable but you had him

1435
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:17,960
make that. Decision you allowed him to make the De

1436
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:19,239
Jon Dee murray trade over the.

1437
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: Summer, yep it's it's, egregious is what it. IS i

1438
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,679
don't know where The pelicans go from.

1439
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:31,119
Speaker 2: Here long story, SHORT i just we're a podcast with.

1440
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: Answers we have no.

1441
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,239
Speaker 3: Idea yeah, No but like, again it depends on the

1442
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,320
relationship apparently between Doo mars And, Zion, right if that goes,

1443
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,440
WELL i assume they're not going to make a big.

1444
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,320
Deal i'm assuming they're going to keep him. Around, like

1445
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,960
what do you do then you move stuff around The?

1446
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,000
Margins can you really do?

1447
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:51,079
Speaker 2: That not? Really, Like, okay what can you get for Herb?

1448
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 3: Jones can you get something that's substantially better fit in that?

1449
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: System if you? Can? Cool but do we trust this

1450
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,519
team to do? THAT i don't know the entry to.

1451
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 3: That i'm very underwhelmed by what they've done so far

1452
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,800
in the offseason interesting in their, offseason just in terms

1453
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,920
of like the leadership. Changes we brought Up Willy green

1454
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,079
as a guy who could be on the hot. Seat

1455
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:18,520
seems like he's, safe which good On. WILLIE i don't.

1456
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: Have any good for him, him LIKE i don't.

1457
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 3: HAVE i don't have anything bad to say About Willy,

1458
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,000
green Like i's he's. FINE i DO i think that

1459
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,680
this is GONNA i. DO i think he's on this

1460
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,520
team as the head coach in twelve, months not necessarily,

1461
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,920
because like you said at the, top when someone comes in,

1462
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,920
with you, know a new managerial, team oughts are pretty

1463
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,680
good that the current coach in hand is not going

1464
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,479
to stay the course or stay or stay for the

1465
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,000
rest of his. Contract so things are just getting. STARTED i.

1466
01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:54,520
Would i'm looking forward to seeing us having this conversation

1467
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,479
in six, MONTHS i think.

1468
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: EVEN i, mean these things can move quickly, too to

1469
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,159
where it's what If Joe dumars decide there's a better

1470
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:03,079
head coach and wants to hire LIKE i just don't,

1471
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:04,640
know BUT i guess he took the. Job one of

1472
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,159
the guys Of Willie green is going to stay, There

1473
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:08,239
so it feels like he'll be there at least to

1474
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:10,279
start next, season will he finish? It is he gonna

1475
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:11,119
be there in twenty? Six?

1476
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: That but that's so messed up to do those like.

1477
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: That that's WHY i never, like you know how when

1478
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,880
teams also promise guys in the, draft, yeah oh if you're,

1479
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,720
there that's just the dumbest thing you can ever, do

1480
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,640
if you ask, me because like what if someone slips

1481
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,159
and that guy's just there and you've made a, Promise

1482
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:30,199
like because if you then break it and go with

1483
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:36,159
the guy you actually, want then agents are gonna be absolutely, pissed,

1484
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:40,800
Rightfully so you're gonna get a very bad reputation amongst

1485
01:09:41,079 --> 01:09:42,399
in the players juniors as.

1486
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 2: Well it's not gonna go well for.

1487
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 3: You, so, like if you take on this, job if

1488
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,199
You're Joe dumars and the mandate, is, oh you got

1489
01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:53,159
to Keep Willie, green all, Right Mike malone just became.

1490
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:57,479
Available you're gonna tell me That Mike malone wouldn't be

1491
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:58,159
interesting to, you.

1492
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 1: Guy Michael, More Mike Michael Michael.

1493
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,279
Speaker 2: Malone, Okay, OKAY i.

1494
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: Don't Michael malone for rebuilding rosters not, It SO i,

1495
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:12,319
don't but LIKE i, DON'T i don't.

1496
01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:14,399
Speaker 3: Maybe not maybe, Not but, like if you if you Keep,

1497
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,920
sion are you then officially?

1498
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: REBUILDING i don't, KNOW i.

1499
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: Mean you HAVE i don't know. YOU i guess the

1500
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,479
idea would, be if you Have, zion the goal should

1501
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,960
be to be really good as long as his health,

1502
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,800
allows which you can't, guarantee but you also could. Rebuild

1503
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,720
he's not super, old and it's, like what are, You,

1504
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,960
like what are you committed to right? NOW i mean

1505
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,600
The Herb jones, deal that's, fine The Trey murphy deal

1506
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,439
still relatively. Young John murray is not even gonna be

1507
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,279
ready to start next. SEASON i DON'T i don't know

1508
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:46,720
what this team direction, is and it's. Tough it's obviously

1509
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,239
tough to know how good they could be without seeing

1510
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,079
what happens in the draft lottery and who they end up.

1511
01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:54,720
With they're just they're just sort of spinning their. Wheels

1512
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,920
AND i think what's most ridiculous If Joe dumars was

1513
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,520
hired and had the ability to change the coach and

1514
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,880
make every redecision necessary or decide like, like apparently he

1515
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,279
has the license to decide whether they Trade Zion. Williamson

1516
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,560
he should have been given that same license With Willie,

1517
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,319
green and if he determined That Willy green worked or

1518
01:11:12,359 --> 01:11:14,600
that he was willing to try and make it, work then,

1519
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,199
Sure but to have it be a, stipulation IT'S i

1520
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,359
don't think having to Move zion should have even Been

1521
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,279
oh that needs to be a stipulation just because that's

1522
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:24,399
going to be dictated by the. Market it's if you

1523
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,479
can't get a good deal For Zion williams and you

1524
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:31,239
don't just give someone who is as talented as he is, away, Right.

1525
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,279
Speaker 3: YEAH i, MEAN i think we've set a record on

1526
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,800
SAYING i don't know for a, team and it feels fitting,

1527
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:43,560
honestly BECAUSE i have no. Clue the only THING i

1528
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,520
do know is The pelicans fans are out on this whole.

1529
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,439
Thing did you see just the reaction to The Joe

1530
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,039
tumar's heart higher and it's all?

1531
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: Ugly, YEAH i saw. It it's they were not. Happy

1532
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,560
they don't have a right to be. Happy just slap

1533
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,359
dash like chittery right. THERE i don't know what it

1534
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,359
just comes back, to like that's just Another there wasn't

1535
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:10,880
a real search. Conducted it seems like ownership laser in

1536
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,600
On dumars a while. Ago and if that was the,

1537
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,199
case then make the decision a while. Ago but this

1538
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:18,319
is just it's. Uninspiring it's just like the Best.

1539
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a.

1540
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: LOT i feel like a lot of teams are becoming that,

1541
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,279
now like lacy and, uninspiring AND i wonder what the

1542
01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:29,239
hell the reason. Is is it just ownership having too

1543
01:12:29,319 --> 01:12:33,039
much power in respective. ORGANIZATIONS i don't know the, answer

1544
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,279
BUT i feel like we're seeing so often managerial teams

1545
01:12:38,319 --> 01:12:40,680
coaching staffs that come in and it's.

1546
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: Just everything is half. Hearted it's.

1547
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,359
Speaker 1: Weird let's move on here since we don't know what they're.

1548
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:53,119
Doing The Phoenix suns fired My. Puttinholzer James jones needs

1549
01:12:53,119 --> 01:12:54,920
a new? Contract are they gonna give him? One Is

1550
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,079
Matters bia gonna try and install more of his own.

1551
01:12:57,119 --> 01:13:01,000
People Bradley beal reportedly could be bought out or waived

1552
01:13:01,079 --> 01:13:03,359
if they wave and stretch him at the money he has.

1553
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:06,199
Remaining they will have twenty two point two million dollars

1554
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:08,319
in dead money on their books for the next five,

1555
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:12,119
seasons so through twenty twenty nine and thirty it'll be

1556
01:13:12,199 --> 01:13:14,880
less if you give money. Back but how much money

1557
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,760
Is Bradley beal giving? Back that's gonna substantially look like

1558
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,000
if you want to knock that down five million bucks

1559
01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:23,239
to seventeen point Two, Okay Bradley bill get back twenty

1560
01:13:23,279 --> 01:13:24,920
five million. Dollars let's say just want to do. That

1561
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,159
seventeen point two million dollars in dead money is a

1562
01:13:27,159 --> 01:13:28,880
lot of. Money that's more than the non tax payer

1563
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,560
mid level is probably gonna average over that. Span Kevin

1564
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,000
durant trade is still considered. Inevitable Devin booker is not

1565
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:36,960
going to be. Traded he is eligible for a two,

1566
01:13:37,039 --> 01:13:39,079
year one hundred and forty nine point eight million dollar,

1567
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:41,840
extension which if he, signs that will bring the total

1568
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,840
value of his contract to five years and three hundred

1569
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,359
and twenty one. Million let's start with The, Bunholzer James,

1570
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,840
Jones Matt ishbia of it. All what do you make

1571
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,640
of just this whole dynamics still mort who was.

1572
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:56,239
Speaker 2: Bad and it?

1573
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: HAPPENS i, MEAN i am honestly not one to point

1574
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:02,439
but had some issues this. Year he also made some

1575
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,640
calls where you're, like what the hell were you? Doing

1576
01:14:05,279 --> 01:14:08,199
BUT i don't think he's a bad. COACH i just.

1577
01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:11,279
DON'T i think this was just a bad situation for all.

1578
01:14:11,319 --> 01:14:16,760
AROUND i think they may have not aligned expectations the right.

1579
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,079
WAY i think they just had a lot of heads

1580
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:22,800
that kind of butted against each. Other so like it

1581
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,079
didn't work. Out it's, Fine James jones in need of

1582
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:30,079
a new. CONTRACT i If I'm Matt, ISSHBIA i would probably, say, Look,

1583
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:34,520
james it's been, nice but it's, time which because.

1584
01:14:34,279 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 1: Sorry should have been, DONE i, guess because do you

1585
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,560
think a long time anything that The sons have done

1586
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:46,800
Since Matt ashbia took? Over what? Transaction Screamed James jones

1587
01:14:47,079 --> 01:14:51,840
on that based off how he assembled that Initial sons, Team, Right,

1588
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,199
Yeah LIKE i don't. THINK i don't know if you

1589
01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:57,600
can say that this is new ownership syndrome in The sun's,

1590
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,279
case BUT i really you think That James jones would

1591
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:03,600
not have made The Kevin durant. Trade it was arguable

1592
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,079
in the time where it's okay it Was Kevin. Durant

1593
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:08,319
like they didn't negotiate any single aspect that they Let

1594
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:11,000
brooklyn dictate all the. Terms and that's probably the cardinal.

1595
01:15:11,079 --> 01:15:13,119
Sin it's not The Bradley beal. Trade it's not even

1596
01:15:13,159 --> 01:15:15,520
necessarily what will be known as The Tamani kamara. Trade,

1597
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,920
now it's not negotiating harder in The Kevin durant. Trade

1598
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,319
and just because you understood the logic at the time

1599
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,399
with the benefit of, hindsight that's not all that's at play.

1600
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,439
Here it's no like it was questionable in real. TIME

1601
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,000
a lot of people questioned. It even if you came

1602
01:15:29,039 --> 01:15:31,159
to the, decision, yeah it might work out because It's Kevin.

1603
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:35,319
DURANT i just and then, LIKE i don't, Know i'm,

1604
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,640
like what was the point of even Keeping James jones

1605
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,119
around if this was the direction you were gonna, have

1606
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:41,840
BECAUSE i don't think that the way the sons have conducted,

1607
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,239
themselves unless maybe maybe he really campaigned For Mike bluenholzer

1608
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:47,359
and that was his. PICK i don't. Know that just

1609
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:50,720
Doesn't this just doesn't feel like he's had the same

1610
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,000
level of control anyway since HIS shbia took. Over and

1611
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:54,920
so what is and what was the point of dragging

1612
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,800
it out to this?

1613
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 3: Point SO i WOULD i would get rid of him,

1614
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,520
too start. Over but the problems at the top at

1615
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,359
the end of the, day even if you do, replace

1616
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,760
like if you Fire James jones and you replace him

1617
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:12,039
with someone, Else, look if everything goes THROUGH mattshpia and,

1618
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:16,399
also LIKE i say, It, thomas that's just that's the

1619
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:23,159
thing that's been he's been a. Consultant then what good

1620
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:25,119
are you going to get? Here like what are? You

1621
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:27,399
how much are you going to change for the? Better

1622
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,399
like genuinely asking.

1623
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,119
Speaker 1: The thing that's, YEAH i don't know how much they're

1624
01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:35,199
going to. CHANGE i don't. KNOW i don't necessarily understand

1625
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:37,960
the logic of waving and Stretching Bradley beale because like

1626
01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:40,399
seventeen million and, dead even if it's a part of a,

1627
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,600
buyout like what would the number? Be like that's just

1628
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,560
a pure cost cutting, move which is if you want

1629
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,199
to make sure that you wigg over under the second,

1630
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,199
Apron but what does that say about your? Future you're

1631
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:52,000
not going to get better as part of A Kevin durant.

1632
01:16:52,039 --> 01:16:54,840
Trade AND i think you need to have some type

1633
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,560
OF i don't want to say, uniform but in a

1634
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,359
line to mindset to correctly Conduct Kevin durant, trade because

1635
01:17:01,359 --> 01:17:03,680
are you're gonna prioritize the team that might be giving

1636
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,000
you stabs at the draft Pick? Apple not your own of,

1637
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,479
course unless It's houston or players that come back that

1638
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,640
immediately Help Devin booker AND i will Say i've seen

1639
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,800
a lot of The sun's need to Trade Devin. Booker

1640
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,000
if it's an if it's a matter of they can

1641
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:24,640
get their picks back From, HOUSTON i. Understand if that's

1642
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,640
presented to, them why you then make that. Move but

1643
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,079
even if It's, houston you're not getting all your consecutive picks.

1644
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:34,399
Back it would be control over this year's in twenty

1645
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,319
seven and twenty nine, basically so it's not as easy

1646
01:17:37,359 --> 01:17:39,479
of a decision like you're still. Have you would still

1647
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,000
have these pockets where how bad you are Without Devin,

1648
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:45,640
booker because you will be pretty. Terrible it's not going

1649
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,079
to pay. Off and then if you're moving him to

1650
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:52,359
any other team But, houston you probably just shouldn't even

1651
01:17:52,399 --> 01:17:54,439
move him like you need to at least like Chip away,

1652
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,600
More let's try and be competent for another year or

1653
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,920
two so we could see a light at the end

1654
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,000
of the tunnel to getting our own draft picks. Back

1655
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,960
i've Just i've seen The Devin booker future framed as,

1656
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,680
binary AND i understand to have that. Impulse and if

1657
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,520
you can get your picks back From, HOUSTON i think

1658
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,159
it's worth a. Discussion but that's not like this isn't

1659
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:14,760
a no brainer decision With, kevin With kevin With Devin

1660
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,159
booker specifically because of just you have no control over

1661
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:21,399
your draft picks movie like non until twenty thirty.

1662
01:18:21,399 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 3: Two, NO i, AGREE i agree to round out The

1663
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:31,079
Bradley beal. Thing If I'm Bradley beal And phoenix comes

1664
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:34,800
to me and, like all, right buyout option, Whatever i'm

1665
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,079
not giving a cent? Back not giving a? Cent why WOULD? I,

1666
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,079
well you.

1667
01:18:41,079 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: Want IF i think if you believe that you can

1668
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,000
recoup the, value and the team's gonna throw him like

1669
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:49,279
the non taxpayer mid level your way giving up fifteen

1670
01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:51,079
million bucks or, something and then you know you're gonna

1671
01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:54,439
recoup that in one year maybe, two that might be

1672
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,680
worth it to. Him BUT i don't think he's gonna

1673
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,399
give them a twenty five million even seems like a

1674
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,800
lot just to off five million dollars per year off their.

1675
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,319
COMMITMENT i Would i'd probably be shocked if he gives

1676
01:19:06,319 --> 01:19:06,600
back that.

1677
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 3: Much, PERSONALLY i just think he should stick it through

1678
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,439
and just say, no you know, what like if if

1679
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,760
you want to buy me, out dude for the full,

1680
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,279
amount because, like, again what has he got to? Loose, Here,

1681
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,479
like is that is that contract not going to be

1682
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,680
available to him when he hits the, market that the

1683
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,760
non Tax emily.

1684
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: You're saying no one would give him the non tax, Paramentily.

1685
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: No, No i'm saying it is going to be available to.

1686
01:19:27,039 --> 01:19:30,319
Speaker 3: Him so why like if if you want to give

1687
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:31,880
up that, money because, oh you can recoup.

1688
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,079
Speaker 1: It but like he like he has more leverage here

1689
01:19:35,079 --> 01:19:36,279
than The. Suns but if you want to be on

1690
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:37,520
a better, team and if you want to be in

1691
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,000
a better, situation not be somewhere where you've become kind

1692
01:19:40,039 --> 01:19:43,279
of this the, scapegoat, really AND i think blame's being

1693
01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:46,279
dispersed the, court Like Mike bunholzer just lost his. Job but,

1694
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,800
like if you want out of this situation so, BAD

1695
01:19:49,319 --> 01:19:52,560
i could see him giving back. SOMETHING i just even

1696
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,159
if he, DOES i don't necessarily understand the logic from

1697
01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:58,399
The sun's, perspective BECAUSE I i as The Sun's if

1698
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:00,800
he's not gonna wave his no trade, Clause i'd rather

1699
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,960
just eat the next two years of the money rather

1700
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:05,199
than have this thing drag out for the next half.

1701
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 3: DECADES i, AGREE i, agree but And i'm just trying

1702
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,720
to look at it Through beal's, perspective because obviously he

1703
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,000
has the power to just kind of cancel out his

1704
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,640
his no trade claws if he wants, To, like he

1705
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,760
doesn't have to trigger his, veto, right he can just.

1706
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,159
Speaker 2: Say cool and Then i'm.

1707
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 3: Out the thing, is, though his trade value has just

1708
01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:29,479
torpedoed over the past couple of. Years like so as

1709
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,000
a trade, option who the hell takes?

1710
01:20:32,079 --> 01:20:36,399
Speaker 1: HIM i THINK i think the deal is short enough

1711
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:38,359
to where teams would take. Him it's will he wave

1712
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:41,520
his no trade clause to go? There but WHO i,

1713
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,000
Mean washington would take him back in a. Heartbeat i'm

1714
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,000
sure if you're gonna give them a.

1715
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 3: Har, Okay so if if The wishards actually win the,

1716
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,920
lottery for, example are we sure that's still the?

1717
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: CASE i still would be pretty shocked if they wouldn't take.

1718
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,760
It if there because you're gonna get something to take

1719
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,760
On Bradby. Beal and if The sun's justification is we'd

1720
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,119
rather he's gonna agree to some type of buy album

1721
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:03,800
wave and stretch him because we wanted to give up

1722
01:21:04,199 --> 01:21:07,640
money picks to get him, OFF i don't that's not

1723
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,800
compelling enough to, me just because that is so far

1724
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,520
out you're basically the Most chauter way to put it,

1725
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,279
be you're just setting fire to the mid level exception

1726
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:16,600
every single year for the Next.

1727
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no you AND i are fully. Aligned they

1728
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,680
should not do. This this is, dumb so obviously that's

1729
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:23,479
what's gonna.

1730
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,399
Speaker 1: Happen you think that's how this is gonna? End, then

1731
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:26,880
is what you're?

1732
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 3: Saying, look it's the. Suns i'd be shocked if they

1733
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,279
actually acted. COMPETENT i.

1734
01:21:33,359 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't even know The Kevin durant stuff. Too

1735
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,319
i'm what do you think they're gonna get for? Him

1736
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,239
is this well they get it'll be multiple first round

1737
01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:43,960
picks of the? Equivalent but there what is what does

1738
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,479
a haul look like For Kevin durant at this? Point with? One?

1739
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,199
Speaker 3: Ye, Yeah i've been wondering that it's well for a while,

1740
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:54,319
now And i'm not. Sure like when we say multiple

1741
01:21:54,359 --> 01:21:56,560
first we make it sound so, attractive but, like are

1742
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,319
they gonna get like multiple picks projected to be in

1743
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:04,079
the lottery and? Unprotected i'm probably disinclined to believe, So

1744
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,840
like he's what thirty seven this?

1745
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,199
Speaker 2: Year are teams.

1746
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,039
Speaker 3: Really gonna go out of their way to relinquish a

1747
01:22:13,079 --> 01:22:15,239
ton of their future for a guy who also might

1748
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:18,239
just kind of, say, LOOK i could be leading in a,

1749
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:21,279
YEAR i could be retiring in a, year LIKE i

1750
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:24,239
don't think. So and as good As katie, is and

1751
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:29,520
he is very very, good it's not the prime. Version

1752
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,159
although his numbers can absolutely fool you here and, there

1753
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,960
he's not that dude, anymore which is, Okay like he

1754
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439
can come in and be like the secondary guy for,

1755
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,760
Sure but but you have to have the right. Circumstances

1756
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,399
you have to have the right, roster you have to

1757
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,720
have him in just the right. Role And i'm just

1758
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:53,840
looking through this entire league and only one team really

1759
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,359
pops up as being the obvious. Selection and that's What

1760
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,279
that's the team he didn't want to go back. To

1761
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,880
that's The Golden State. War you're still like.

1762
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,039
Speaker 1: Who else society because it's mid, Season.

1763
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh, right, true so it might be, open that's, Right.

1764
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: Denver like if the if The nuggets go out there

1765
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,920
and make a big swing FOR, kd they're probably gonna

1766
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,560
hurt their depth even. More but oh my, GOD i

1767
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,159
want YOU kd. Together that would be so. Fun what

1768
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:20,479
are you?

1769
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,239
Speaker 1: Using is the outgoing salary in That.

1770
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Michael Porter junior and. Stuff and that's the, issue, right

1771
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,239
what is?

1772
01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: Stuff you could trade a first round? Pick you how

1773
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,199
you would have to Trade i'm Assuming Peyton watson's probably

1774
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:34,359
involved in that. Deal Zik.

1775
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: NASIA i, assume.

1776
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,359
Speaker 1: Well you get to the money of charge And Zeke

1777
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,039
nagy is probably. Not, WELL i don't. Know that's that's

1778
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:43,560
a pretty big number for what Is Michael Porter junior

1779
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,920
at next? Season so he's gonna be in the mid,

1780
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,960
thirties he's gonna be like around eight to. Nine scharch

1781
01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:52,359
is gonna. Be that'll be the mini mle type. MONEY

1782
01:23:52,359 --> 01:23:53,039
i mean you get.

1783
01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 2: THERE mpj is at thirty eight point.

1784
01:23:55,039 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: Three oh, yeah so you could get there that nausey

1785
01:23:58,039 --> 01:24:00,520
and charge would get you just about. There Probably, yeah he's.

1786
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,199
Speaker 2: Close, yeah and sorry's absolutely picking out that.

1787
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,199
Speaker 1: Player but at that, POINT i, WONDER i guess if

1788
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:08,560
you're A, phoenix you're you have to Like Michael Porter

1789
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,239
junior and then you're getting a, pick and you have

1790
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:12,000
to you have to like one Of denver's youngsters a.

1791
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 3: LOT i WOULD seri that's the, thing, Right like it

1792
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,199
has to make sense for, Them but, like if that's

1793
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,840
the best deal that's out, there, LIKE i GUESS i

1794
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,760
don't know who is going to break the bank. HERE

1795
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:22,960
i don't know who's gonna come up with the godfather

1796
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:25,520
offer For Kevin. DURANT i have no. Idea what if

1797
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,000
that offer isn't out? There what if that package From

1798
01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:31,640
denver is the best that The sons can can? Get

1799
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:33,840
are they Gonna so.

1800
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,119
Speaker 1: We're SAYING MPJ A pick And Peyton watson just as

1801
01:24:37,119 --> 01:24:39,199
sort of like the baseline.

1802
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,279
Speaker 2: Baseline, sure but like let's let's say it's the.

1803
01:24:41,319 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: Best i'm Not and, then by the, Way i'm not

1804
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,800
suggesting That katie doesn't have trade, value but like this

1805
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,840
is a new financial climate and new financial reality that

1806
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,279
we're living. In we have no, idea like maybe five

1807
01:24:52,319 --> 01:24:55,319
teams stand in line to acquire, him maybe.

1808
01:24:55,359 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: NONE i have no.

1809
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 3: Clue but if that's the, package what do you do

1810
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,800
with your? Phoenix do you stay put with? Him or

1811
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,439
do you take that package and try to run with? That,

1812
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:09,000
AGAIN i don't know the interwest to.

1813
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: THIS i guess you would be obligated to take, it

1814
01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:13,319
because what's the. Alternative you just want to LOSE kd

1815
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,079
for for, nothing and you PROBABLY i, mean you've then

1816
01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:19,520
turned him into two rotation, players but plus a pick

1817
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,680
down the line with some, upside you probably have to

1818
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,039
make that.

1819
01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: Deal but it's also the motivations of, him because he

1820
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,840
outlined pretty thoroughly he wants to be able to choose

1821
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,800
this next. Chapter you want to go out on his,

1822
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:38,000
Way like what if he is again disinclined to want

1823
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:40,439
to go to a certain destination that might offer them

1824
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:40,800
a good.

1825
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Package THEN i was gonna, say do you Think miami

1826
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,039
can put together a compelling?

1827
01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 3: Package, WELL i, mean look if if Calil ware is is, involved, yes.

1828
01:25:54,199 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: But what were you?

1829
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: THINKING i, mean like you have you're at that point

1830
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,800
though you're, like, oh we're gonna get Khalil. Aware then

1831
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,000
may be they can't trade a first round pick as

1832
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:05,560
of right now until twenty twenty. Nine and that's assuming

1833
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,920
that this, year, well this year's pick will convey because

1834
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,199
they made the, Playoff so they can't trade a first

1835
01:26:09,239 --> 01:26:12,920
round pick until twenty twenty. Nine would you give UP

1836
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,439
i guess you have to give up Khalil ware For.

1837
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,680
Kidie but it's so twenty twenty nine, first let's, say

1838
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,600
and then Khalil ware plus the money you're getting back

1839
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,479
is it's Rosier Or's Duncan rock Because i'm assuming you

1840
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,880
don't want to Trade Tyler hero and you're definitely not Trading.

1841
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,199
Speaker 2: Bam Nought bam WITH kV for. Sure, yeah AND.

1842
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:32,279
Speaker 1: I guess you have. To you have to Throw himehawks in.

1843
01:26:32,279 --> 01:26:33,560
There and then it's, well what are you left? With

1844
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,359
IT'S kd And hayward High smith And Tyler hero And

1845
01:26:36,359 --> 01:26:37,840
pam at a. Bio what is left with?

1846
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: Us you're left with the same issue as when as

1847
01:26:41,039 --> 01:26:43,600
every team when they go all in on these big

1848
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,920
salary guys who are at the end of their. Careers

1849
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:52,279
it's it's a pitiful. Depth it's this is the recurring

1850
01:26:52,319 --> 01:26:54,640
issue that we're seeing again and again again and our

1851
01:26:55,039 --> 01:26:57,520
look our mood show Friend Brian sippork was on, This

1852
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,239
he's been on this for. Years when you have to

1853
01:27:01,359 --> 01:27:05,439
like get three guys into a salar structure where they're

1854
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,840
all earning on more than thirty, million even with like

1855
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,920
new caps and increasement increasings and all, that it's just

1856
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,279
gonna make it brutal to make real upgrades on the

1857
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:17,600
bench unless you have like a war chist of draft

1858
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:18,520
picks like, okay.

1859
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: See okay, SEE i might not Hate Kevin durant, There

1860
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,800
i'm not depending on what the outgoing money, is it's

1861
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:25,680
not gonna be j Dubber.

1862
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,119
Speaker 3: Chet that would be. BEAUTIFUL i do we think he'd

1863
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:30,199
be interested in going back?

1864
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:31,159
Speaker 2: HOME i don't.

1865
01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:34,239
Speaker 1: KNOW i actually think it's less likely The thunder would be.

1866
01:27:34,279 --> 01:27:37,159
Speaker 2: Interested oh, yeah that might be true.

1867
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Too they're just like that team is so. Good they just.

1868
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Oh then then then it's look sixty eight.

1869
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:46,520
Speaker 3: WINS i know it's not quite seventy, three but Then

1870
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,359
Count durant would obviously be.

1871
01:27:48,399 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: Interested at least.

1872
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: You would have the reunion element.

1873
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,399
Speaker 2: Though, yeah BUT i had to get that.

1874
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: In would you if You're? Denver would it be more

1875
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,159
palatable or even if Your phoenix more palatable to build

1876
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,119
something Around Jamal murray instead Of michael portergy, Year, like

1877
01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:03,159
if It's Jamal murray in's, salary it's just kind of

1878
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:04,760
a challenge straight because he's kind of close to What

1879
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Kevin rant's making next.

1880
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Year oh, MAN i, MEAN i wouldn't like, that And

1881
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,880
i'm also for which team BOTH i KNOW i. WOULDN'T

1882
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,319
i wouldn't like that For denver Because i'm A Jamal murray.

1883
01:28:17,319 --> 01:28:20,439
Optimist i'm gonna and also he's a. Guard they need

1884
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,640
guard play like if you if you don't have, him

1885
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,439
you're gonna run.

1886
01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:26,159
Speaker 1: The ball Even, okay.

1887
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:29,039
Speaker 2: Yes that is, true they.

1888
01:28:29,079 --> 01:28:29,239
Speaker 1: Do.

1889
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 2: NO i honestly think Like.

1890
01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:38,079
Speaker 3: Murray Kd jo kitsch is like the perfect way to,

1891
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:40,800
Distribute like if you want to do like a three

1892
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,039
max system and a three star, SYSTEM i think like

1893
01:28:45,239 --> 01:28:48,159
the lead, guard the primary wing and a big is

1894
01:28:48,199 --> 01:28:49,199
the best way to go about.

1895
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 2: IT i wouldn't hate.

1896
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,399
Speaker 3: That but, Again durand is ninety seven thousand years. Old

1897
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,439
do we trust him to hold up in the? Playoffs

1898
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,520
and then at the same, time do we Trust Jamal

1899
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,319
murray to hold on in the? Playoffs like health wise.

1900
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: He's a playoff killer generally though that's A i'm GONNA

1901
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,000
i count myself With Jamal murray optimist. TOO i think

1902
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,039
he was overrated in certain, circles but people who view

1903
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:16,279
his contract as TOXIC i probably not the best contract

1904
01:29:16,279 --> 01:29:19,640
given his injury history at this. Point but, YEAH i

1905
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,920
don't know what team is gonna. COME i don't Think houston.

1906
01:29:22,039 --> 01:29:24,760
Is they might be, involved but they're not giving you back.

1907
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,760
Everything and if they, do, like that's, it like you've

1908
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,279
just gotten your dress And i'm not the money that

1909
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:31,159
they're giving, YOU i guess they're Using Van fleet's money

1910
01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:33,439
or jail And greed's, money and It's i'm not that's

1911
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,359
not moving. Me and if you're Keeping Devin, BOOKER i

1912
01:29:35,359 --> 01:29:39,319
assume that you want to compete, Now SO i, MEAN

1913
01:29:39,359 --> 01:29:40,720
i guess the movies if you can get back any

1914
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,079
of your picks From houston for MOVING, kd can you

1915
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,199
try and figure out you can get like another one

1916
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:48,079
of your picks back by Moving Devin. BOOKER i. DON'T

1917
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,640
i don't, know BUT i. UNDERSTAND i think The Devin

1918
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,159
booker stuff has been too simplified down at they have

1919
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,840
to move, him and it's it's it's similar In atlanta

1920
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,039
With Tree. YOUNG i get it where you could fault

1921
01:29:58,039 --> 01:29:59,520
them for giving up those picks in the first, place

1922
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,199
but when you don't have, them it it. Matters you

1923
01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:04,199
have any Other Kevin durant destinations you wanted to, tell,

1924
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:05,880
like is there a team that's in the playoffs right

1925
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:06,800
now where you could.

1926
01:30:07,079 --> 01:30:10,279
Speaker 3: Just just outside the playoffs just because we want to

1927
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:13,880
go full chaos agents? Here how about Reunion Kyrie irving

1928
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,760
In dallas Where Anthony davis said it to it To?

1929
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,079
Speaker 2: Phoenix why not let's get.

1930
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Nuts why WOULD i, Mean Nico harrison would have to

1931
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,199
have lost his mind at that.

1932
01:30:23,239 --> 01:30:28,199
Speaker 2: Point oh he hasn't, already have?

1933
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: You have you given Any he can sell it to

1934
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,800
ownership because ownership are dump.

1935
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,520
Speaker 2: Dumps they have no idea what's going? On oh this

1936
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,319
Luka doncic guy is good or that's what you're telling.

1937
01:30:37,359 --> 01:30:40,279
Me oh my, GOD i mean you can sell.

1938
01:30:40,319 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: It the two TEAMS i keep an eye, on just

1939
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,560
depending on how they fare in the playoffs and when

1940
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,039
they get. BOUNCED i Think minnesota or The knicks could

1941
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:51,439
end up being just interesting teams that oh, yeah loop

1942
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,000
themselves in. HERE i just think a lot rides on

1943
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:55,600
it how the playoffs finish for.

1944
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 3: Them Anthony davis would be the driving force behind.

1945
01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,399
Speaker 2: That for.

1946
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: Sure he would love. It he would absolutely love. That,

1947
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:06,399
yeah that's a good shot The. Knicks oh that's. Interesting

1948
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,119
who are you giving?

1949
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:09,359
Speaker 1: Up So i've seen a lot of people propose like

1950
01:31:09,399 --> 01:31:11,760
the Mchal bridges or ogn andob type, framework AND i

1951
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,560
Think i'm trying to build something Around Karl Anthony towns.

1952
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,560
Instead If I'm New, YORK i think if you're, big what's?

1953
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 2: That who's your?

1954
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: BIG i think you can ask that same. Question, now,

1955
01:31:23,039 --> 01:31:25,479
Look Contee town's played well at the end of and

1956
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,880
this will be coming out after game. Two he played

1957
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,520
well defensively at points For game, one he also had

1958
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,319
some really bad moments where he was getting burned in

1959
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:34,359
the pick and. Roll AND i do believe it's going

1960
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,000
to be a a top or near the top of

1961
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,239
the to do list this summer for The nicks to

1962
01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:42,479
go out and get another. BIG i think Carlck town

1963
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,079
is a great, player but if you can Move Karl

1964
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:47,600
Anthony towns to Get Kevin, durant you've probably major defense

1965
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,279
better and you can approximate center play for cheaper than

1966
01:31:51,279 --> 01:31:54,800
for someone that's something Like Kevin durant, does and that

1967
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,760
would BE i don't know if that's. Enough are we

1968
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,800
talking a third or fourth team here where you're Sending

1969
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:03,640
karnathony town? Somewhere there's ending stuff To. Phoenix but if

1970
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,319
The nick's get.

1971
01:32:04,319 --> 01:32:07,520
Speaker 3: Back are we just all in On Josh hart averaging

1972
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:08,760
fourteen boards next.

1973
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,159
Speaker 1: Year then maybe move him to get your big to

1974
01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:13,680
try and get a big after Getting Kevin.

1975
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:18,239
Speaker 2: Durant Moving Josh, Hard oh my, god that is, Slanderous.

1976
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 1: OKAY i mean it might be but they already did

1977
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,920
break up the villain over crew after, it so maybe they.

1978
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 3: Were why DO i still why AM i still set about?

1979
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,840
That like it's been so long and that's still that

1980
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,399
commercial that came out some time, ago THE, A c

1981
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,640
AND t. COMMERCIAL i know as you saw, that that

1982
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:41,439
got to, me it was like, damn, Damn, YEAH i could.

1983
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: SEE i would be curious if that's the would you

1984
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:45,800
you Think New york should be trying to Move Michael

1985
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,079
bridges in that instance rather than you can't MOVE O

1986
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:50,760
G he's become your second most important.

1987
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,560
Speaker 3: Place oh, yeah, no, no, No i'm Thinking bridges for. SURE i,

1988
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,239
AGAIN I i'm also a town's. Optimist i'll admit as.

1989
01:32:57,279 --> 01:32:59,399
Much AND i AND i ALSO i you know, ME

1990
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,520
i put a bigger emphasis on offensive production.

1991
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,399
Speaker 2: Defense so like that's probably me if.

1992
01:33:05,319 --> 01:33:07,079
Speaker 1: You actually had the, Choice so we're kind of Throwing

1993
01:33:07,079 --> 01:33:08,520
phoenix this out of the equation out of. Here if

1994
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,560
you were The, knicks you would prefer to move Probably

1995
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:16,039
McHale bridges And Josh hart THE kd then moving towns probably.

1996
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Yes and IF i if we somehow could stick With

1997
01:33:19,039 --> 01:33:21,239
josh some, CAPACITY i would do.

1998
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: WELL i guess you could Move mitch with Michae let's

1999
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,479
you can figure it? Out sold SOLD i THINK i

2000
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,680
would prefer the town's route as good as he's, been

2001
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:33,560
to be. Honest next, up AND i think is this

2002
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,359
this might be finally The Sacramento kings are? Kingsing who knew?

2003
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,239
Kangsing excuse, me The kangs are. Kangsing monte McNair was.

2004
01:33:41,319 --> 01:33:45,239
Fired Scott perry has been hired after yet another exhaustive

2005
01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:50,399
search by a top notch. Organization Scott perry can supposedly

2006
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,760
hire his own head. Coach that's. Fun but the Veck

2007
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,960
king's owner is known to Like Doug christy who was

2008
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,880
The internet for the rest of the. Year, there what's?

2009
01:33:58,920 --> 01:33:59,800
That so he?

2010
01:33:59,800 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Can?

2011
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,279
Speaker 1: Right Does, perry, though have the autonomy to choose a

2012
01:34:04,279 --> 01:34:07,920
new direction for the franchise because the reporting coming out

2013
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,800
and a lot of this could be post transactions Been

2014
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,000
apparently McNair wasn't a big fan of Firing Mike brown

2015
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,359
or going After Demarta rosen or Zach. Lavine and if

2016
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:21,960
that's the, case my. God we also know that domas

2017
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,640
a bonus is expected to contemplate contemplate his future with

2018
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:29,600
the organization this, summer and of, note, Two Keegan, murray

2019
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,079
he's gonna be extension. Eligible where is? That we know

2020
01:34:33,119 --> 01:34:38,199
it's headed for, Disaster but do you think like the

2021
01:34:38,319 --> 01:34:40,439
move for The kings would be they should probably strip

2022
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,479
it down and start. Over if you want to Keep

2023
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,840
keith And murray pay, him, fine sure. Whatever still believe

2024
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,680
if you believe In Devin, carter sure. Whatever but this

2025
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,359
seems like a situation where they're gonna try and, no

2026
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,279
like we can reredg reredge open that window from two

2027
01:34:55,359 --> 01:34:58,199
years ago and like the beam all over. Again that

2028
01:34:58,279 --> 01:34:59,720
ship has kind of sailed for.

2029
01:35:00,199 --> 01:35:04,239
Speaker 3: Light the beam is. Dead unfortunately this we have to

2030
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:06,520
kill the beam. Now AND i say that as a

2031
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,840
major fan of the. Beam we can't justify it. Anymore, sorry,

2032
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:15,560
Sorry when they win their first, championship oh well, no

2033
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,439
wait a, second they have a championship in their, belts,

2034
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,399
right they have one from way back with The.

2035
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 2: ROYALS i, think all, right.

2036
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 3: Well the first time The Sacramento kings win a, championship

2037
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:25,640
then you can light the beam.

2038
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: Again until, Then, no, no it's.

2039
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,399
Speaker 1: Over they're just they feel they have Some they're twenty

2040
01:35:33,399 --> 01:35:36,199
million dollars beneath the tax heading into the. Offseason they

2041
01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:39,319
have assets and like mid end salaries that they could.

2042
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:42,720
Move BUT i just don't know how you get to

2043
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,680
like a better point Right like looking at the organizational,

2044
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,760
health it seems like a big problem is just going

2045
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,199
to be the way That vivek runs, things who he's

2046
01:35:52,199 --> 01:35:55,520
listening to at any given. Moment and then they've just

2047
01:35:56,239 --> 01:35:59,319
traveled after having a one of the best feel good

2048
01:35:59,319 --> 01:36:01,199
stories in the league a couple of years, ago they

2049
01:36:01,239 --> 01:36:04,359
have traveled one of the most curious paths since, then

2050
01:36:04,399 --> 01:36:07,840
and they've assembled what is a wildly underwhelming roster with

2051
01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:10,600
very few. Outs they have some pick equity from the

2052
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,600
Darn fox, trade BUT i don't even know THAT i

2053
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,399
think their biggest issue AND i HAD i want to make,

2054
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:16,720
CLEAR i had to masts The bonis on one of

2055
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,600
my ALL nba. Teams they need a new best, player

2056
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,880
and you're not gonna be in a position to draft

2057
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:27,159
one based off how good slash not. Good you're going

2058
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:30,960
to be moving, forward and maybe you have the assets

2059
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,239
to go out and get, one but do you then

2060
01:36:33,279 --> 01:36:36,399
have the assets to flesh out the roster around set.

2061
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,319
Player and if, don't maas The, bonis if you put

2062
01:36:39,359 --> 01:36:42,960
him on the, Market the fact that he's under contract probably,

2063
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,960
helps BUT i also don't think because he's such a specific,

2064
01:36:46,039 --> 01:36:48,479
FIT i don't know that there's gonna be this type

2065
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,079
of bidding war for, him with teams tripping over. Themselves

2066
01:36:51,079 --> 01:36:55,279
he's an incredibly talented, player but it's also and look

2067
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:58,760
he also we did this made up awards from our

2068
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,760
subs mord and one of them was stars who made

2069
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,479
the biggest. SACRIFICE i put him number. One he was

2070
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,479
off the ball a lot more this. Year dealt with

2071
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,239
two different iterations of The. Kings they bring in To

2072
01:37:07,319 --> 01:37:10,840
Martin roseen than at Sack. Lavine so he's not, inflexible

2073
01:37:11,239 --> 01:37:14,399
but defensively specifically the reason That Keegan murray has had to.

2074
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,000
Blossom there do a lot of low man stuff that's

2075
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,159
because Of, simonis and that will be taken into account

2076
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:22,199
if teams are cobbling together trade. Packages it's just A

2077
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,000
i hate not having. Answers but like a lot of

2078
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,880
the teams that we have talked about when it comes To,

2079
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,199
dallas when it comes To New orleans and even In,

2080
01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:35,479
atlanta they're in these just aggressively mediocre situations without a

2081
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,800
clear path forward and without like who are the decision

2082
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,279
makers that you feel most. Confident we exclude The warriors

2083
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:46,760
who we talked about to monitor and react to the

2084
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,479
future of these. Teams it's probably maybe In, atlanta but

2085
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,079
like Between New orleans And sacramento And dallas being thrown in.

2086
01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:58,880
There BUT i honestly don't know this IS i do

2087
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,000
think they had other car that they could have, Played

2088
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,039
AND i probably the mistake probably began with the Demart rosen,

2089
01:38:04,039 --> 01:38:07,319
acquisition which we did not necessarily hammer on this, podcast

2090
01:38:07,359 --> 01:38:09,840
but it was sort of a all, right like you're

2091
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,600
fixing one need while ignoring or creating, Others and that

2092
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,800
turned out to be exactly the. Case and with the

2093
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,760
Darn fox, trade you could say they made out well

2094
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:22,439
relative to the, circumstances but you also were forced you,

2095
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,960
won contributed to creating those, circumstances and then two you

2096
01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:29,720
tried to cater to this middle ground to where could

2097
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,279
you've gotten more pick equity if Zack lavine wasn't Involved

2098
01:38:32,319 --> 01:38:34,760
and if the answers, no what does that say About? Zaclovine,

2099
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,039
LIKE i just don't, so because if you Put Zack

2100
01:38:37,079 --> 01:38:39,760
lavine on the trade, MARKET i think he's probably become

2101
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,800
an underrated. Player BUT i don't Think he's someone who

2102
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,520
nets you a ton on the trade, market as we

2103
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,840
just saw for what The bulls got, HIM i, know

2104
01:38:47,039 --> 01:38:49,159
or got for him as part of that, deal.

2105
01:38:49,399 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 2: WHICH i still think is is.

2106
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Weird he's one of the most efficient scorers in all

2107
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:54,319
of basket that.

2108
01:38:54,279 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Could be a bulls thing. Too you would be the

2109
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,119
first to admit that that they just didn't properly like

2110
01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:02,199
go about gauging his, value like maybe there was a

2111
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:04,039
different type of deal on the table that they just to.

2112
01:39:04,079 --> 01:39:06,399
Speaker 2: SHOOT i, mean, look everything is possible.

2113
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,159
Speaker 3: Here but one of my point is, basically when it

2114
01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:11,720
comes To, LEVINE i think he's grotesquely. UNDERRATED i loved

2115
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,359
the addition of him In, sacramento BUT i hated that

2116
01:39:14,359 --> 01:39:16,520
it came at the cost of Darn fox because the

2117
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,319
idea would have been to pair him With fox and

2118
01:39:19,319 --> 01:39:21,600
the bonus that would have been. Fun THAT'S i still

2119
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:26,239
love The Levine Sa bonus. Connections, HONESTLY i think there's

2120
01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:29,199
some jews, there Which you're, right this has to come

2121
01:39:29,239 --> 01:39:31,880
down to the. Stubs and what's the funniest thing ever

2122
01:39:32,079 --> 01:39:35,560
Is ricky, O'Donnell who's the co host On Cast. Considerations

2123
01:39:36,039 --> 01:39:38,640
he was like he's been banging this drum for like

2124
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,399
solid two months, now where he's, like The bulls are

2125
01:39:41,399 --> 01:39:44,239
absolutely going to trade For demons as bonus because artories

2126
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:47,000
cut showst is Also lithuanian and like, that that whole

2127
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,920
connection is. There and it took me a while to

2128
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:56,239
realize that would Mean, Booch deamar And saclovine would be

2129
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,600
all three of like Like Bulls west would be created In.

2130
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,239
Sacramento and if that is just the fact that they

2131
01:40:03,239 --> 01:40:05,840
have those two guys on the same team speaks to

2132
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:11,600
how little they apparently. Are And i'm not putting, this

2133
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,199
by the, way and on man to make. There i'm

2134
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:17,640
putting this on ownership that they realized. That, look if

2135
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:22,119
that connotation didn't work In, chicago, like how why should work?

2136
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:25,520
Here like why why would that duo work? Here they

2137
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,239
were separated for three months and we're back together and

2138
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,399
this team is extremely uninspiring as of This as of right,

2139
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,279
now they have some quality. PIECES i do think if

2140
01:40:37,319 --> 01:40:40,359
they trade them off, individually you can get something. Interesting but,

2141
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,159
yes this you have to tear this down to the.

2142
01:40:42,199 --> 01:40:44,640
Stubs you have to start. Over there's there's nothing here like,

2143
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:48,359
look the whole bonus expected to contemplate future this. Summer

2144
01:40:48,399 --> 01:40:51,520
it's a bit of a farce for one. Reason the

2145
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,560
conclusion we already know likes is not gonna look at

2146
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,119
this roster and, go oh, yeah that makes.

2147
01:40:57,119 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 2: Sense i'm.

2148
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 3: Down even if he gets Like Scott perry comes in

2149
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,600
and tells him here's the. Plan the plan is gonna

2150
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,520
end in. Mediocrity why would sabonus sign up for? That

2151
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,199
like what what Is Scott perry is gonna, Say, Hey,

2152
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:15,840
domas so we're planning in twenty twenty six to tray for.

2153
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 4: Viz like what like what what possible realistic plan can

2154
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,479
he lay out in front of the bonus that is

2155
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:29,560
gonna like push the kings into to deep that playoff,

2156
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:30,920
Contention they would be.

2157
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,159
Speaker 1: If you're gonna Keep levin And sibonis and you figure

2158
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:34,359
out how to Keep murray and it's just kind of

2159
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:36,399
salary and picks going, out they would be a Fun

2160
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,079
Kevin durant Teams Katie.

2161
01:41:39,279 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 2: Yevin that'd be. Fun that'd be.

2162
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 3: Fun it it'd be a super short, window but that

2163
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,880
would at least be a fun, window very fun. Window

2164
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,640
by the, WAY i want to admit THAT i was

2165
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,640
wrong On DeMar BECAUSE i actually thought that they would

2166
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,520
go this route of basically, saying all, right we're gonna

2167
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,199
go back to, running because remember when they had the

2168
01:41:59,279 --> 01:42:02,479
number one office that, HERE i thought they'd basically go

2169
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:07,359
seven seconds or, dumar WHICH i thought like, that you, know,

2170
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,880
WELL i, mean look there's some merit to. THAT i

2171
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,319
think there's some merit to, that and they just. DIDN'T

2172
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,560
i mean even when they started, running Like damar would

2173
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,319
get the ball and then he would just stop the.

2174
01:42:19,359 --> 01:42:22,039
Offense you just like, it stuff going all the way

2175
01:42:22,119 --> 01:42:24,119
to the, baskets which are like all, Right i'm just gonna.

2176
01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:26,880
Stop i'm gonna survey for four seconds That i'm gonna

2177
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,680
get into like.

2178
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,199
Speaker 2: Like a post up fifteen feet away from the.

2179
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:38,359
Speaker 3: Basket just murdered their entire offensive expulsion. Potential AND i

2180
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,640
hate to be that, guy but like you're, Saying Keegan

2181
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:46,720
murray's extension and, eligible, SURE i probably would just let

2182
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,359
him get into the restrictive free. AGENCY i don't think

2183
01:42:49,399 --> 01:42:53,079
he's proven enough at this. POINT i mean he's gotten better,

2184
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:57,640
defensively that's. GREAT i expected far more from him offensively.

2185
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Far they weren't never set up to give that to,

2186
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:02,399
him though.

2187
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: They were were traded for Freaking Demarta.

2188
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Rosen that's my, point, show AND i also think is

2189
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:11,840
The kings if the way restricted free agency, WORKS i

2190
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,720
would agree with you that team should just let players

2191
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,159
reach the. Market but as The, kings you don't have

2192
01:43:17,239 --> 01:43:19,920
the good will built up to potentially damage any pre

2193
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,279
existing goodwill you have With Kegan, Murray so that might

2194
01:43:22,279 --> 01:43:24,279
put you over a, barrel.

2195
01:43:24,039 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 3: Right but you're still paying off a theoretical. Potential like,

2196
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,880
again we don't. KNOW i agree with, you his situation wasn't, optimal,

2197
01:43:32,079 --> 01:43:35,560
absolutely but that also means we still haven't seen. It

2198
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,199
we haven't seen long term proof that he can be

2199
01:43:39,399 --> 01:43:42,560
you know that, firmly that third guy that we all

2200
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,960
were hoping he could, be we haven't seen. It so

2201
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:48,119
like AM i sitting here, going oh, Yeah i'd be

2202
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,439
comfortable paying him twenty five to thirty million a, year.

2203
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:53,079
Speaker 2: That's.

2204
01:43:53,079 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: Steve, well if you're not comfortable doing, that then then

2205
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,159
you should trade, him.

2206
01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 3: Right i'm not comfortable doing that right now, Though like,

2207
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,920
again and that's, why like if you're, Four let's say

2208
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:07,119
they get rid Of damar And murray goes into like

2209
01:44:07,239 --> 01:44:09,039
his final year of this rookie, deal and he's going

2210
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,800
to be a restrictiveficagent and he.

2211
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 2: Blossoms i'll be willing to pay for that, well.

2212
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,279
Speaker 1: And that would be that's the middle, ground. RIGHT i

2213
01:44:17,319 --> 01:44:19,079
don't know what that necessarily looks, like but it's what

2214
01:44:19,119 --> 01:44:23,079
can you attach To Moleik, Month Malik monk excuse, me

2215
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:27,039
and or DeMar and what does that get? You what's

2216
01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:29,239
the player that could get? You and are you, prioritizing,

2217
01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:31,600
oh we want a floor general like are they looking

2218
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,479
at A Tree young or A John ran if they become,

2219
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,800
available is it to you? Know we talked a lot

2220
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,680
about can they get a higher end wing in there

2221
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,680
aside from A Keegan. MURRAY i JUST i don't have

2222
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,199
The it's such a bizarre situation because IF i was,

2223
01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:46,760
THEM i would just tear the whole thing. Down Kegan

2224
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,199
murray up for, debate for, SURE i would tear the

2225
01:44:48,199 --> 01:44:50,239
whole thing down and start. Over but we know they're

2226
01:44:50,279 --> 01:44:53,239
not gonna do, that and SO i just. Don't i'm

2227
01:44:53,279 --> 01:44:55,000
trying to think of just moves that they could make

2228
01:44:55,039 --> 01:44:57,439
where it kind of salvages this situation where all, right

2229
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,720
it costs you some, assets but some are left over

2230
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:02,159
to be reactive and make other. Moves what is the,

2231
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,840
like are you gravitating towards especially if you're moving to

2232
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,479
mar and Or? Monk is? It, well then that needs

2233
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,319
to be an initiator type of player from the.

2234
01:45:09,319 --> 01:45:13,279
Speaker 2: Perimeter, absolutely, YEAH i, Look and.

2235
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:15,359
Speaker 1: Then Trey young doesn't make a ton of sense because, it's,

2236
01:45:15,359 --> 01:45:17,880
oh we, like let's build a worst version Of Jalen

2237
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:23,159
brunson And Karl Anthony towns, TOGETHER i guess In Zach, Ramano, yeah, WELL.

2238
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean at least They'll bean would be, there right

2239
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,399
if They're can you even get it for? It can

2240
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:28,039
you un afford?

2241
01:45:28,079 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: That? Though Trey levin's the, BONUS i think you.

2242
01:45:31,079 --> 01:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Can?

2243
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,039
Speaker 2: Right that is that is.

2244
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 3: Expensive we're coming up on like one hundred and twenty

2245
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,560
five million just for those.

2246
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: Three, okay, no you need you need a lead.

2247
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,319
Speaker 3: GUARD i just don't know who the hell it. Is

2248
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:48,960
it can't Be Malik. Mounk BUT i appreciate What Malik

2249
01:45:49,039 --> 01:45:51,840
monk has done over the past few years just in

2250
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,800
terms of improving as a.

2251
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Playmaker Kobe white do it for?

2252
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,239
Speaker 2: You, yeah so he's a guy WHO i think could

2253
01:45:57,239 --> 01:45:57,560
be fun.

2254
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,319
Speaker 1: There but could they get.

2255
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,359
Speaker 3: That's the thing You but, again LIKE i don't Want

2256
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,560
Kobe white there if It's levine de ros and, RIGHT

2257
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,039
i guess that that's going to be the primary fore

2258
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:11,239
who gets shots and we've seen that formula.

2259
01:46:11,239 --> 01:46:12,119
Speaker 2: Before that's not gonna.

2260
01:46:12,119 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 3: Work, ALSO i think there's far more precisional overlap between

2261
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,960
the being and white than, we you, know seem to.

2262
01:46:20,119 --> 01:46:23,079
Speaker 1: Acknowledge at some, point they got to stop bringing in

2263
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:24,079
bulls players, too.

2264
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,039
Speaker 2: Like that that should just be a.

2265
01:46:26,119 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 3: Rule, uh it's unless it's Matsas, Priscilla so Then I'm

2266
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:30,920
i'm ready to make.

2267
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: It LIKE i thought About detroit for a, minute if

2268
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,720
they weren't confident In duran and they wanted like more

2269
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:37,800
half court offense there and they don't think that Date

2270
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:39,800
jnavey is the, Answer BUT i don't love that with

2271
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,279
some of the other players they.

2272
01:46:41,319 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 3: HAVE i, WONDER i do wonder what if The pelicans

2273
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:53,000
are like really aiming for like the middle, ground, Saying,

2274
01:46:53,039 --> 01:46:54,439
okay we want to be more.

2275
01:46:56,239 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 2: What's the.

2276
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,399
Speaker 3: Word we want to be more, healthy we want to

2277
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,720
be more a little bit more, consistent but we're willing

2278
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:04,319
to sacrifice like the top tier. Potential it's gonna be,

2279
01:47:04,319 --> 01:47:06,239
horrible fans are gonna hate, It but like right, now

2280
01:47:06,279 --> 01:47:10,560
we're dealing with crap for, crap, right bonus For scion

2281
01:47:11,039 --> 01:47:14,920
or some. Iteration my, god, yeah, NO i, like.

2282
01:47:16,079 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 1: But that's that's breaking my. Brain that's why I'm that's

2283
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,720
Why i'm. Laughing that would.

2284
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 2: Be, Correct it would, be, yes it.

2285
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,119
Speaker 1: Would it's interesting you. ARE i do think you're knocking

2286
01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:33,399
down A zion's like he's a very good table, setter

2287
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,680
but he does it in like one way WHERE Si

2288
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,239
bonus is going to be more. Dynamic, yes in that

2289
01:47:38,359 --> 01:47:41,000
part as a straight up, TRADE i think you have

2290
01:47:41,039 --> 01:47:42,600
to say no is The. Kings but if you were

2291
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,960
just concerned about Because zion is still owed, money but

2292
01:47:45,039 --> 01:47:47,600
you can technically get out of it if you suppose

2293
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,439
that really wanted. TO i Think New orleans has to

2294
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,720
send something out just BECAUSE si bonis the durability and

2295
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:54,720
is just more. Proven AND i can't imagine your word's

2296
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,560
attaching something To zion at this, point but.

2297
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 3: Like it's JUST i think those are the that we're looking.

2298
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,880
At but, again what it doesn't move the needle for,

2299
01:48:04,039 --> 01:48:05,079
either does?

2300
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: It what do you Like sabonis With? Wemby, No, YEAH

2301
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,800
i don't like them. Either think about the, SPURS i

2302
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,600
don't have like a lot of other teams THAT i

2303
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,399
thought Would, no he could work With Jaron Jackson, junior

2304
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,319
but you Have edie there and you would have to

2305
01:48:21,359 --> 01:48:23,439
be really not confident in your offense or maybe you

2306
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,359
think you're. MOVING i, Mean jo For Sa bonus would

2307
01:48:25,359 --> 01:48:27,279
be a weird. Trade that would be a weird.

2308
01:48:27,279 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 3: Trade the issue with The, bonus WHO i, love is

2309
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,680
that he's just not a strong rim protector. Whatsoever you

2310
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,479
just the way you have to build around him is so.

2311
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,439
Specific it's sort of like The sion.

2312
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 2: Issue.

2313
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 3: AGAIN i know you disagree with me on, that BUT i,

2314
01:48:44,199 --> 01:48:47,039
LIKE i still think like those guys who are so

2315
01:48:47,159 --> 01:48:50,640
specific in how they're, built but it lacked like these

2316
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,800
very vital elements to become these LIKE mvp level. Players

2317
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,800
they're so difficult to like find the right structure. AROUND

2318
01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:04,159
i just don't know how you build around or even

2319
01:49:04,319 --> 01:49:08,640
with eight do Montonis like his talent level is. Outrageous

2320
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,079
he's he's a triple double. Machine the guy when giving

2321
01:49:12,119 --> 01:49:13,720
the ball a, lot is gonna lead the league In

2322
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,279
rebound's gonna average eight assistan and gonna give you twenty.

2323
01:49:16,279 --> 01:49:18,880
Points he's gonna shoot like sixty percent from the. Field

2324
01:49:19,279 --> 01:49:23,479
like that's that's ridiculous. Production but because he's such a

2325
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,439
weak rim, Protector you're, like, uh.

2326
01:49:26,279 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: You need to have you basically need to have the

2327
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:32,640
supporting cast that Like houston Or boston Or Oklahoma city

2328
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,000
has right, now.

2329
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 2: Or Just Jaron Jackson.

2330
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:40,520
Speaker 3: Junr just that guy or when well you Said, Wenby

2331
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,279
but like the flag of floorst basic For, sabonis although

2332
01:49:43,279 --> 01:49:48,359
it's got, BETTER i will give him this that.

2333
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: That would be so interesting If Jaron Jackson junior was

2334
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,720
available because The sabonis covers up for his Rebounding Jackson

2335
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,920
junior covers up for a lot of his defensive. Stuff

2336
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,399
But memphis Is you're you're getting third and four teams

2337
01:49:59,399 --> 01:50:01,159
of all that because you don't have anything that helps

2338
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:03,600
Out memphis that unless they're doing a full tilt rebuild

2339
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,479
and you're you're probably Sending you're sending salary and picks.

2340
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,520
Elsewhere So memphis is getting somebody they. Want Kevin durant maybe.

2341
01:50:10,279 --> 01:50:13,119
Speaker 2: The short, Roll like if If bonus ended up In,

2342
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:14,319
memphis the short Ro.

2343
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh you're saying the bonus For Jaron Jackson.

2344
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 3: Jr Oh no, no, no, no, no, No i'm saying

2345
01:50:20,279 --> 01:50:22,800
pair them. Together but could you imagine if The bonus

2346
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,920
ended up In memphis With jaron like you, have you

2347
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,359
have the initial pick and roll of jaw and And

2348
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:33,560
Domas domus obviously a great short. Roller then you Have

2349
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,239
Jared Jackson Junior lurk in the, baseline and you know, what.

2350
01:50:37,319 --> 01:50:39,239
Speaker 1: The bonus has become a good enough shooter to wear

2351
01:50:39,319 --> 01:50:42,359
the space with jaw wouldn't be BUT i still defenses

2352
01:50:42,359 --> 01:50:44,680
would not care About. Jared, YEAH i mean're running probably

2353
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,840
play With clark, Though so, yeah it's.

2354
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 2: Rough it's.

2355
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:54,199
Speaker 3: Rough those guys are just they're tough to find something

2356
01:50:54,399 --> 01:50:54,800
on That.

2357
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,359
Speaker 1: And i'd be curious if you pulled exactly like GM's

2358
01:50:58,399 --> 01:51:00,239
around the. League so The bonus has like three years

2359
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:01,880
and one hundred and forty million left on his deal

2360
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,560
after the, Season i'd just be curious how that's viewed around.

2361
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,560
Speaker 3: You did you bring Up atlanta because if we're talking

2362
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,039
about like they need a, center a big, Center LIKE i,

2363
01:51:12,079 --> 01:51:15,800
Know bonus is only like six, eleven so he's like not, necessarily.

2364
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,119
Speaker 1: But he's like one of the best rebounders in THE. Nba.

2365
01:51:18,319 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 3: Rex, yes like the interchangeable passing elements From Jalen johnson

2366
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:25,920
And bonus would be.

2367
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: Fun if you're.

2368
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,319
Speaker 3: Actualrain so that makes the thing IS i just don't

2369
01:51:28,319 --> 01:51:31,920
know what the deal, is but like a front cord

2370
01:51:32,399 --> 01:51:36,520
Of Sionis johnson And Risha. SHAY i, mean at least

2371
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,319
you have those two guys who can cover up a

2372
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:42,920
ton of his defensive weaknesses down the line as they improve.

2373
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 1: Further it feels like a ton is doing a lot

2374
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:46,479
of heavy lifting.

2375
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,520
Speaker 3: There but, yeah, okay DOWN i sat down the. LINE

2376
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,239
i didn't say immediately Then Dyson daniels at the very,

2377
01:51:52,279 --> 01:51:54,279
least it's going to be an ascid defensively to help.

2378
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:56,159
Speaker 1: Out here's the thing, though is now you who Is?

2379
01:51:56,199 --> 01:51:58,640
Atlanta you want all these players around the bonus and

2380
01:51:59,159 --> 01:51:59,600
thing right?

2381
01:52:00,079 --> 01:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Out, yeah and that's because they don't have their. Picks

2382
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:03,199
they don't know.

2383
01:52:03,359 --> 01:52:05,199
Speaker 1: THERE i mean they have like The lakers, pick they

2384
01:52:05,239 --> 01:52:07,079
have others. Pick they get The kings back their pick.

2385
01:52:07,159 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 3: Technically, yeah and that's that's the issue that this is

2386
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,199
why The Atlanta hawks were also on this, List like

2387
01:52:13,279 --> 01:52:15,880
IT'S i know it's basically a new. Stump but at

2388
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,319
the same time they are firing their general manager for a.

2389
01:52:18,359 --> 01:52:20,399
REASON i, mean all of these teams that we've talked

2390
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:21,199
about are just.

2391
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 2: They're so. Stuck, Dan they're so. STUCK i, mean.

2392
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: It's funny because they're. Not they're. Not they're they're stuck

2393
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,920
in their own, way if that makes any, sense because

2394
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:35,560
they do have. Outs but for The, hawks, yes and

2395
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,920
even The, suns like they've complicated it because of their pick.

2396
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,840
Commitments but like The suns are just. Screwed like they're just.

2397
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,720
Screwed all these other teams have, options but they have,

2398
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,439
not like you don't trust them to make the right.

2399
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,239
Decision and there's other complications like With atlanta where it's

2400
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,319
and and with The. Bonus our best players are this

2401
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:55,520
they are ALL nba caliber, players but they're not universally,

2402
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:59,159
scalable and that makes it difficult to not just trade

2403
01:52:59,159 --> 01:53:01,319
them if you wanted to art over or at LEAST

2404
01:53:01,399 --> 01:53:03,560
i shouldn't say difficult in a, vacuum but it makes

2405
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,439
it harder than if you're if The celtics want to

2406
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,920
move on From Jalen, brown it's just easier to find

2407
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,000
the top level packages than if it's one of these.

2408
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,560
Two but also just building around, them because you could, Say,

2409
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:17,279
Okay sabonis In, Atlanta subonus And trey would be a defensive. DISASTER, yep.

2410
01:53:17,399 --> 01:53:21,239
Together SO i don't know what The kings, do BUT

2411
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,039
i assuming they're not going to, rebuild even though that's, Well.

2412
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna do What vivec wants to.

2413
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,399
Speaker 3: Do and that's a problem in enough, itself because that

2414
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,199
is where the real issue. Lies it's with, ownership as

2415
01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:32,439
is becoming the case more and more with THE.

2416
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,159
Speaker 1: NBA i have Decided i'd do nasty things to See,

2417
01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:38,800
Sabonis Jaron Jackson, junior And Keegan Murray i'm the same team.

2418
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:42,119
Speaker 3: Though oh, okay So Jaron Jackson. Junior two, Second that's

2419
01:53:42,119 --> 01:53:42,399
WHAT i.

2420
01:53:42,399 --> 01:53:44,159
Speaker 1: Was BECAUSE i was, saying what if what if The

2421
01:53:44,199 --> 01:53:46,560
grizzlies don't want to Pay Jaron Jackson. Junior and by the,

2422
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,520
way for anyone who's still listening to, THAT i did

2423
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,000
confirm you don't need to sign for this full supermax

2424
01:53:51,039 --> 01:53:53,920
Because Rudy gobert his supermax was five and two twenty

2425
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,479
eight and he signed for like five and two oh.

2426
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 3: Five so so all, right so you just have to

2427
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,960
be eligible and then you can sign for basically whatever

2428
01:54:02,199 --> 01:54:02,680
is kind.

2429
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,119
Speaker 1: Of, right OR i guess at least anything between the

2430
01:54:05,199 --> 01:54:06,560
thirty percent and thirty five.

2431
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:11,520
Speaker 3: Percent that's super, interesting in very well it's super interesting

2432
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,279
for you and, Me like for the, thousand, well it's.

2433
01:54:14,119 --> 01:54:17,079
Speaker 1: Important because if the option is we can only Give

2434
01:54:17,159 --> 01:54:20,800
Jaron Jackson, junior you, know one third of a billion

2435
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,000
dollars rounding up here or you, know so there's like

2436
01:54:24,039 --> 01:54:27,239
there's a huge difference there for. Sure But i'm, like

2437
01:54:27,279 --> 01:54:30,720
If memphis doesn't want to pay, him and you obviously

2438
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,520
take an extension off the table and a Super max

2439
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,079
off the, table if you move, Him i'd throw. Everything

2440
01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:37,720
i'd throw money and all the PICKS i, have maybe

2441
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,000
not all the picks because they have a, ton but

2442
01:54:40,039 --> 01:54:42,720
like you have picks and salary And Jaron Jackson, junior

2443
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:46,239
so bonus And Keegan murray And i'm, Assuming i'm Assuming

2444
01:54:46,279 --> 01:54:48,199
memphis doesn't Want levin as part of that just because

2445
01:54:48,199 --> 01:54:50,479
you Have bain and jaw so then you're Using damarro

2446
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,479
And monk and there are other teams. INVOLVED i DON'T

2447
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:54,880
i don't know if that makes The kings puts them

2448
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,199
on the right, path but that's certainly THAT i would

2449
01:54:57,239 --> 01:54:59,600
look like that's a that's a win now. MOVE i

2450
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,159
can get on board with, That, sacramento if you don't

2451
01:55:02,159 --> 01:55:03,760
have anything else to add. More this was fun as

2452
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,840
always can you tell our and we went way too

2453
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,119
long on just, these but this is, stuff big picture

2454
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:09,600
stuff that we need to talk. About can you just

2455
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:11,479
tell our listeners where they can find you and all

2456
01:55:11,479 --> 01:55:12,000
the work that you.

2457
01:55:12,039 --> 01:55:14,439
Speaker 2: Do, yes you can find me over at Blue sky

2458
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:15,199
at ms J.

2459
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 3: Npa you'll find my work, there From, forbes From, Dahoo

2460
01:55:21,039 --> 01:55:24,199
i'm sharing the mis to my, podcast but The danish

2461
01:55:24,279 --> 01:55:28,840
one a plus review fun you get a mess.

2462
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: Where until next time and as, always thank you. More

2463
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:33,479
we'll talk to you. Soon you know we've bet work

2464
01:55:33,479 --> 01:55:36,479
to shout up to one you'll ma the Indelible frank