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dot com. So August twenty sixth, So what eight days

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from now is the ninety sixth anniversary of the Hebron massacre.

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This was in Hebron in the Palestine Territory the Mandate

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under British control after World War One, and sixty seven

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were killed. Sixty seven Jews were killed at the hands

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of the Arabs, another fifty eight or so injured, and

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it bore much of the same resemblance to the October

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seventh attack by Hamas on Israel. But this was sort

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of the first of its kind. And this is what

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Jardina Schwartz, author of ghosts of the Holy War. This

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is where she begins marking the current trouble like, because

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this riot in Hebron began what we then have seen

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for the next ninety six years. The riot was prompted

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by false rumors that the Jews were planning to attack

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and demolish the Alli Mosque in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: It was not true. It was a lie.

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Speaker 2: It was a rumor that was spread by the Grand

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Mufti because he was corrupt and he was getting a

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lot of examination and people were mad at his corruption,

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the way he was siphoning funds out of these Muslim

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institutions like the.

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Speaker 1: Schools and.

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Speaker 2: Mosques and such and using it to build all sorts

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of fancy stuff for himself. And so to quiet the critics,

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he started spreading this rumor through the mosques that the

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Jews were planning to attack the Aloxa Mosque. That's also

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by the way, the Temple Mount. It's a holy site

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for the Jews. Also, Jews at this time could not

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own land. They were prohibited under the Ottoman Empire. They

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were prohibited from owning land. They were second class citizens,

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and they were you know, regularly discriminated against.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: This Lie goes out, the rumors get whipped up, and

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then Hebron there's another mosque called the Ibrahemi Mosque, and

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that was also part of the rumor, which was after

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they take Alaxa, they're going to take the Ibrahemi Mosque,

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And so that prompted the riots and the torture and

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murder of Jews in Hebron. After this massacre, the British

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authorities evacuated all of the Jews from the city, took

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them all out. So why is this the beginning?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: This is Yardina Schwartz. She appeared on for a conversation

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with jviiv retig Gour. He's got his YouTube channel, ask

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Hove anything.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 2: A correspondent for the Times of Israel, and she makes

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the case that this is really the beginning of the

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Israeli Palestinian conflict.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen twenty nine wasn't the first time tensions had erupted

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in Palestine between Arabs and Jews. They had been simmering

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for years, as you mentioned. In nineteen twenty there was

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the Nebi Musa riots, But nineteen twenty nine was the

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first mass casualty event of this conflict, and it's Also

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when the forces that drive this conflict today, particularly Alaxa

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Mosque and this supposed Jewish plot which continues today to

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destroy Alexa and rebuild the Jewish Temple, this is when

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that disinformation campaign begins and we see how it has

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continued to fuel violence for the last century.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's no coincidence.

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Speaker 3: That October seventh was called the Alaxa floods, no coincidence

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that Hamas presents itself as the defenders of Alaxa against

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the Jews.

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Speaker 4: Their logo there icon.

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Speaker 3: Is Alaxa with guns in front of it, the entire resistance.

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If you listen to their own words, it's about protecting Alaxa,

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liberating Alaxa. When the Palestinian leaders talk about liberation, it's

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not a liberation in the sense that we know it

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in the West. It's a liberation of holy Muslim land

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from Jewish contamination. These aren't my word, these aren't their words.

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Speaker 1: Right, any Jews on the land. Right.

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Speaker 2: So when you fast forward to the time when Israel

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is created, right, that's and then you hear of the

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the Nakba, which is what the Palestinians and the apologists

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for Hamas, they cite this as this was the catastrophe

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where all of the Palestinians, you know, were moved off.

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Speaker 1: Displaced off the land.

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Speaker 2: But I would submit the Nakba was actually a catastrophe

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because it was a humiliation because these apes, dogs, snakes.

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Speaker 1: All pigs.

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Speaker 2: This is how the Jews were described by the Arabs.

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They were second class citizens, were the Jews. And after

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this Hebron massacre, you see the building up of the

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what would become later the Israel Defense Forces the IDF.

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At the time, it was called the Haganah, and this

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is when they began to take a more than just

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simply a defensive posture, right. The Haganad then said no,

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we're going to now take active measures, and they actually

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created some problems apparently inside the Haganah itself, because there

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were people that are like, no, no, we're just defensive

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only in that sort of thing. So you end up

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with the rise of this militia to defend the Jews.

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And when Israel gets its territory from the Nations, which

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they were super excited about, even though they only got

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a tiny little chunk of the massive area that is

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like Jordan and Egypt and like all of these other

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massive countries all around them, and they carved out this

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chunk for the Arabs in the Palestine Mandate, and they

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carved out area for the Jews in the Palestine Mandate,

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which was the territory that the British were occupying after

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World War One when the Ottoman Empire fell, right, so, okay,

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so Jews are really happy about it. And then they

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were immediately attacked and they repelled the what six or

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seven Arab countries that attacked them. That's the humiliation, that's

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the catastrophe. The catastrophe is that they couldn't get the

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Jews off of their land. They view it as their land.

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And how dare the Jews be on this land? You're

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not allowed to be on this land. Your second class citizens,

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You don't even you don't get the right to own

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own land in our societies. Now you get a whole country.

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Excuse me, No, that's not that is not cool. By

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the way, a year before the Hebron massacre, the Muslim

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Brotherhood was founded nineteen twenty eight in Egypt by Hassan Albana,

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and their stated mission has always been the same, which

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is the establishment of a global caliphate governed by Sharia law.

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The Brotherhood has always attempted to position itself as a

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political organization, but it's political in the way that Lenin

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was political. Think subversion through infiltration or revolution through stealth.

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This is a piece by Josh hammer Over at hotair

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dot com. HAMAS is not merely inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood.

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It is the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestinian Arab branch. The link

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is unambiguous. Article two of Hamas's founding charter states quote

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the Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of

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Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine.

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Got a message from Russ who says, loving all the

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background stuff today the Hamas Kids cartoon show is far

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more insidious than I knew. Side note regarding the Sikhs

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in Britain fighting back. I'm no authority on the Sikhs,

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but my understanding is that they are an honor culture,

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mostly peaceful, but also a warrior culture. Training in martial

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arts seems to be pretty widespread, and people who have

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served alongside them say they are extremely competent and ferocious fighters.

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The diaspora, at least, seems to be very peaceful and friendly.

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Unless pushed, they are not to be messed with. That

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is my impression of them as well. Let's jump over

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and chat with Marcus. Hello, Marcus, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, and great show as usual. I'm forced I missed

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a bunch of at first, and I'm gonna have to

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miss them up here in a little bit too. I'll

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beginning my next drop. But I just wondered, and they

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tell me I forgot about downloading the podcast. But yes,

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did have you mentioned anything about the English belfour papers

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or the English white papers that come out? But at

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the same time, I have not.

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Speaker 2: That's not part of this. I'm talking about the Hebron massacre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked about that.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about the Balfour declaration before. Is probably right

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after the October seventh massacre in Israel. I did a

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deep dive on that.

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Speaker 5: Right all right, Well, I didn't know because it was

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kind of up telling them what y'all talking about and

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the Masters and everything that took place in the MASTI

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that the two different papers with the English English being

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in charge, everything kind of escalated everything like that.

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Speaker 2: And well yeah, they they well, yeah, the English did

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not want to be there. They did not want it.

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They they wanted to get out and that's why. Yeah,

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they they drew up the partition plan and stuff, and

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they you know, they put the what Jerusalem under the

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control of like an Arab I think it's called like

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the the Wak or something like that, where it's uh,

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it's governed by like Jordan and Egypt I think they've

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gotten and the Palestinian representative something like that.

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Speaker 1: So like these the.

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Speaker 5: Holy sites mess everything. Yeah, they kind of made a mess.

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Everything was already messed.

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Speaker 1: Up, yeah, very much.

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Speaker 2: And then they drew a bunch of arbitrary lines all

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over the place, creating these nation states out of you know,

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different tribes and clans that you know, probably should not

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have been part of the same nation state because they

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had you know, long standing feuds or you know, bad

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feelings and animosities and stuff. So yeah, the British didn't.

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I don't think they did a lot of good work.

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This wasn't their best work.

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Speaker 5: No, no, that that wasn't their finest hour by and

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no shirt.

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Speaker 1: Well well not at all. I appreciate it, Marcus, thanks

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for the call, sir.

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Speaker 2: Now, the British were there during this nineteen twenty nine

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Hebron massacre. I mentioned this, I think in the last

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at the end of the last hour, where you know,

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Jews were being slaughtered by their Arab neighbors, literally their neighbors,

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people that they had you know, worked with, they had

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you know, been in town with, that they had dined with,

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and then they came and murdered them, and you know,

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while they were running to British authorities for protection. In

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her books, she describes one of the scenes Yardina Schwartz describes,

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you know, there's a British soldier on horseback with a

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firearm and does nothing to quell the riot, does not

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fire the gun, does not do anything to save these

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Jews that are being massacred at his feet. And it's

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only when the mob starts to attack his horse. Is

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when he starts firing and the crowd runs away like

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that's that was the kind of situation that the British

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I don't know, I don't know a year oh, and

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I did get this message also because.

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Speaker 1: To do.

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Speaker 2: The Muhammad al Husseini, that's the Grand Mufti who was corrupt,

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who spread these lies that the Jews were going to

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attack the Alosa Mosque and then after that they were

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going to move on on the Brahemi Mosque in Hebron,

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and that's what prompted the riots. This was a propaganda

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this was done by the Grand Mufti to distract the

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population from his corruption where he was siphoning pounds British money.

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various Islamic institutions in order to build himself a mansion

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and a hotel I think, and whatever. So like, he

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corruption around him, and he starts this rumor campaign in

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order to distract the population. And this has been something

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by the way, that we have seen persist in the

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Middle East ever since, like this constant demonization that the

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Jews and America is doing all of this stuff in

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order to keep you down. And that's the reason you're poor, whatever,

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it's been a distract away from the abuses of these

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tyrannical authoritarian governments that have been in these nations for

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the last one hundred years. So there's one more clip

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which is rejectionism. She calls it rejection of coexistence. And

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there is no way forward for any kind of a

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quote two states solution. There's no way forward on that

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because hamas the Palestinians, the Arab population since nineteen twenty nine.

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This rejectionism is the through line through all of it.

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They do not permit Jews to live there. They will

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not coexist. That's the line, all right. If you're listening

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line before the break, so let me finish reading the text.

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Speaker 1: It was only a sentence, so I apologize.

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Speaker 2: This comes from Eric Mohammed al Husseini, the same Grand

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Mufti who spread this propaganda campaign that the Jews were

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trying to plot to destroy the Al Aksa Mosque, and

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he did that in order to distract from his own corruption.

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He also allied himself and collaborated with Hitler in World

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War Two because well, they both hated Jews. He even

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helped recruit three Muslim SS divisions. This is the final

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quote or final clip here that I've got from again.

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This is off of a YouTube channel called Ask Haviv Anything.

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The host is named Haviv retig Gour. He is a

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reporter at the Times of Israel and he had a

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sit down conversation with Jardina Schwartz, who wrote a book

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called Ghosts of a Holy War, and it's about the

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nineteen twenty nine Hebron massacre, which she pinpoints as sort

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of the beginning of this nearly century long feud, and

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she explained some of the reasons why she considers this

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to be the beginning. But at the heart of all

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of this is what she calls rejectionism, and here's her

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explanation for that.

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Speaker 3: It's also the beginning or an early spark of the

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rejectionism that has characterized the Palestinian movement for the last century,

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the rejection of living together, inequality. So there was there

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was coexistence before nineteen twenty nine, but coexistence as long

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as Jews were second class citizens, as long as Jews

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were kept out of places like the tomb of the

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patriarchs as long as Jews didn't have a role in leadership.

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on city council, one Jewish police officer, even that was

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pushing it. There was this allergic reaction to this idea

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that under the British Jews would become equal citizens, Jews

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would be allowed to immigrate into Palestine. Because under the

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Ottoman Empire, before the British took over, before the British

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Mandate of Palestine, under Ottoman rule of Palestine, there were

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quotas on Jewish immigration. Jews were restricted from purchasing land.

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Jews were already the majority in Jerusalem, and yet they

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were restricted from purchasing land, even in Jewish quarters. So

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there was this rejection of any notion of Jewish power,

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and that was very evident in nineteen twenty nine with

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these cries of house and is our land. The Jews

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are dogs, you know. There is this rejection of this

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idea that Jews would have any kind of equality in Palestine,

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and a rejection of a shared future.

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Speaker 2: So the Great I must stop right there for a second.

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Why is this flaring up, she says, is because this

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concept that the British, now that they controlled the former

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Ottoman Empire territory, that they were going.

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Speaker 1: To make the Jews equal.

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Speaker 2: And this is where this rejectionism first sparks. How dare you?

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They are dogs, they are second class citizens, They're not

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allowed to own anything, They're not our equals. And that's

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where this idea flares up first.

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Speaker 4: And Mufti, after.

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Speaker 3: Inciting these riots, he was able to keep the powerful

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positions that the British had actually appointed him to and

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he came even more powerful. And after inciting the riots

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that characterized the revolts that began in nineteen thirty six,

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the British began to have negotiations with Jewish leadership and

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Palestine to figure out what could be done.

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Speaker 4: The British had already decided.

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Speaker 3: They wanted out of Palestine, but they didn't know how

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they would get out, and they began to talk about

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potentially a two state solution.

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Speaker 4: This was the first time.

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Speaker 3: They didn't call it that, but they talked about dividing

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the land between an Arab an independent Arab state an independent.

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Speaker 4: Jewish state with self governance.

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Speaker 3: And the Jewish leadership wasn't totally thrilled by the idea.

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Because it would give just twenty percent to the Jews

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and something like eighty percent.

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Speaker 4: To the Arabs. But they were excited that.

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Speaker 3: This was even you know, being spoken about some kind

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of independence in the land of Israel for the first

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time in two thousand years. Meanwhile, the Grand Mufti was

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adamantly opposed not just the idea of two states, but

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to the idea that the four hunter a thousand Jews

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then living in Palestine would even be able to live there.

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in nineteen thirty six, what should be done with the

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Jews now living here, he said, we can. We can

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get to that later, once we get to self governance,

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Arab self governance. And I said, well, can they stay?

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And he said no, And that was his first rejection.

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Of course, in nineteen forty seven, he and every other

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Arab leader rejected the UN partition plan. You know, this

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is all to say that if this conflict was truly

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about land and who gets to live where, this conflict

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would have been solved years ago, decades ago. Two thousand

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there was a two state offer that was rejected with

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no alternative. Two thousand and eight, even more generous offer

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rejected out of hand by a bus.

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Speaker 4: You know, this notion that.

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Speaker 3: Settlements, however problematic they may be, and we can talk

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about that, this idea that settlement are the key obstacle

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to peace is a fallacy. I mean, there were less

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than two hundred thousand settlers living in the West Bank

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in two thousand when Arafat rejected the two state solution.

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Today they're more than nearly five hundred thousand. So it

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just shows that, you know, sharing this land is not

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an option for one side of the equation. And you know,

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maybe that's true that today Israel is led by a

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government that also doesn't want a two state solution, but

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that is relatively recent that that set right.

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Speaker 2: It's not about the land, it's about you not being here,

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that I don't want you being here. From the very beginning,

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it was we're going to dare I say it, ethnically

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cleanse the entire Middle East of all the Jews because

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they're second class citizens. They're not even we don't even

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consider them to be people. We don't want them here.

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And so oh, Britain, we're not going to agree to

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any map that you give us that gives them private property.

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Ownership rights. So it's not about this particular piece of land,

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it's about any land at all. It's about coexistence. They

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refuse to coexist on an equal playing field. All right,

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responsible for the project. The German employees working at that

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plant enjoyed the admiration of the Kuwaits for having attempted

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to exterminate the Jews, and those employees at the powerplant

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played up to that image.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's UH. I forget who I I forget who

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I was watching.

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Speaker 2: I was watching some interview with UH with you know,

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some a person.

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Speaker 1: That you would know. It's a famous person.

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Speaker 2: But I want to say they came from like the

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business world or maybe media. I forget where, but it wasn't.

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They weren't, like UH, an expert on Israel, Palestine stuff

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or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But they said.

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Speaker 2: Somehow an other, like they were asked about the rise

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of anti Semitism or whatever, and he was like, it's

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one of the things that oh it may have been

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John mcquarter. It's like you you talk to people who

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are in all other ways that you think they are, uh,

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you know, open minded, they're nice people from and he's

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talking about people in the Middle East and he's like,

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I have all these interactions and it's all perfectly you know,

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nice and polite and all of the stuff, and then

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all of a sudden it just turns into some you know,

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rant against the Jews. It's like this this thing that

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just trips their triggers. And it's like and it's so widespread,

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like they sell minekomf in the in the shops and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, along those lines, let me tell you about a

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woman named Francesca Albanie. She is the UN Special Reporteur

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for Gaza.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So this is who the UN put in charge of

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reporting to the world what is happening in Gaza, Okay.

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Francesca Albanese. And there's a video now making the rounds

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of her where she says she's had some conference and

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she's speaking and she says people continue to say but

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Hamas Jamas Humas. I don't think people have any idea

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what Hamas is. Hamas is a political force, course that

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won the two thousand and five elections, whether we like

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it or not. Hamas built schools, public facilities, hospitals. It

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was simply the authority, the de facto authority. So it's

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critical that you understand that when you think of AMAS,

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you should not necessarily think of cutthroats, people armed to

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the teeth or fighters.

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Speaker 1: It's not like that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, this is the political wing of h Yeah.

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I've long mocked this bifurcation that for some reason, terrorist

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organizations get like Hamas, like the Palestinian authority, like Hezbollah,

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like they Oh, this is the militant wing of Hamas,

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the militant wing like. Nobody else gets that bifurcation, Like

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is there a militant wing of Israel? Wouldn't that be

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the IDF?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: What about America?

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Speaker 2: Is our military the militant wing of the of the government.

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Nobody ever gets that description, Only Hamas, only these terrorist organizations.

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This is from David Stram at hotair dot com. He said,

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the level of corruption in our elites is off the charts.

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This woman's husband also a vile anti semi apparently works

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for the World Bank.

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Speaker 1: Two. You got Canada, France, the UK.

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Speaker 2: They're all preparing to recognize Palestine as a state, which

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is an obvious reward for their October seventh attack. Yeah,

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I don't know how you recognize the state that you

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don't even know what the borders are? What are the borders?

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: Hamas calculated that if only they upped the suffering in Gaza,

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the moral midgets in the West would reward their cruelty

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with a new state, and they calculated correctly. The worse

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they got, the more the Western leaders supported them. And

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this proves to Hamas and everybody else that's watching terrorism works,

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So good job Western culture. And then there's this I

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got from listener Andy. The Democrat National Committee is trying

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to avoid a fight over this issue. A vote at

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the DNC meeting later this month could once again expose

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the rift between the party's base and its leaders, who

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are lining up to oppose a resolution against arms for Israel.

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Alison Minerly, twenty six year old committee member, sponsored the measure.

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She told The Intercept that Democrat leaders risk further alienating

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party members, especially the youth vote, if they kill this

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largely symbolic resolution. So she wants to know boycott, defund, divest,

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beat sanctions Israel, all of that stuff, and act at arms, embargoes,

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suspend military aid, and recognize Palestine as a state. DNC

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leadership is like, well, let's just do this kind of

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milk toast water down version of it, and this is

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going to now erupt in a big fight apparently at

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the DNC meeting later this month, and I am here

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for it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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