Speaker 1: And now stay tuned for Mac Maloney's Military X Files
on the Distant Thunder Radio Network.
Speaker 2: We didn't lie to your folks.
Speaker 3: We told you we had living, breathing monstrosity you laughed at,
and yet you might be even as they are. They
did not ask to be brought into the world, but
into the.
Speaker 2: World they came.
Speaker 4: Their code is a lawn to themselves.
Speaker 2: Of felled one, and.
Speaker 3: You up held them all.
Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand para normal events reported
around the world every month. Most can be explained as
natural phenomena, but about ten cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters,
the strangest of coincidences, abduction theories and remote viewing, plus
what the hell that switch have for breakfast? All these
things and more are revealed every week on Mac Maloney's
Military X Files show. So join Mac and the rest
of the Gang one one Switch Club, Raven, Susie and Susan,
Uncle Al and Agent X as they delve into the
ultimate mysteries of time and space and how much to
tip your waitress. This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files
and now here's Mac.
Speaker 5: Wow Wow Wow Wow. Welcome everyone to Mac Maloney's Military
style show. Here on the Distant Thunder Radio Networking. This
is Mac maloney broadcasting live from the stovet Galley, fifty
five Wata Street in Newport, mass Great seafood restaurant, great
Hamburgers and a soup, a tupa stay, and she's Sammy.
We have quite a show for you tonight. We're going
to be talking about a number of different things, one
of them being that there's been a report that just
came out that some time ago, the CIA used their
remote viewers, one of their remote viewers to locate the
arc of the Covenant and then they didn't tell anybody
for some reason. On a second yes, also Greg Masso,
our friend who fills the sin on the latest in
virtual reality and artificial intelligence. He'll be dreing us later on.
Also coming up will be a good friend. Chris Ire
was the guy who was in the NCIS and then
he worked for Noah NAA and he's an interesting guy.
He used to work he used to be a personal
bodyguide for admirals and stuff like that. He has quite
a career and he's also on what's the sequel to
Tombstone eighteen twenty seven or something no one knows. Yeah, okay, anyway, yeah,
that's it. Yeah, he's he's he's in that sometime. So anyway,
Chris ask coming up and Greg Mass and so now's
the time let me introduce the members of the place.
First of all, we hear what our producer well and
now though, well, well, oh he's training. Oh no, not me.
Speaker 6: I was trying to turn up one ones a bit.
I think he was down with touches it any better?
Hello one too. Okay, we're doing right on the show.
This is excellent. Also, well one one is next to
be introduced. So uh, he's here, second week in a row, USA,
on firm ground.
Speaker 7: And so glad to be here. By the way, awesome,
I love it. Should I do your intro or live?
Go ahead?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, girls, get ready to sit yourself down.
Speaker 7: If you're not already sitting down or should be sick.
Speaker 5: Star fanning yourselves, get your big box of cleanics, your
big box of wipes, you squeegee, and you loub because
he's here, the very famous one one.
Speaker 7: Hello back, Hello everybody, Hello babes, Hello girls and boys
and all ships at sea, everybody watching the show. I'm
glad you're here, and I am glad to be here
in the USA, and that glad to be anywhere when
it comes right down to it.
Speaker 5: Okay, soot a new car today?
Speaker 7: I did. I bought a new car. Okay, and I'm
waiting for them to become a sponsor. Before I mentioned wow,
I mean, what the what did you go? All right,
it's an Accura. It's pretty decent there. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also with us is down there in my sister's tank top,
West Virginia is our senior international correspondent, Switchblade, Steve Ward, switchy.
Speaker 8: Great to be here and great to be sitting down.
Speaker 5: It's great to be sitting down. Yeah, sure, Uh, you
get new glasses obviously, Harold Channing.
Speaker 8: These are the same Amazon production reading glasses that I
You know, if I don't wear them during the show,
you all kind of blurry.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: Maybe that's better. I don't know, but I'm not gonna,
you know, weigh in on that.
Speaker 5: But all right, well, I can tell you two weeks
ago you had your big Harold Channing glasses on, and
those aren't them. You look more like Bono.
Speaker 8: These these are the same Harold Channing glasses. The only
difference maybe I've got a couple a few different ones
that are some that are just slightly different, uh uh
more powerful and some are not so. And you know,
I just just whatever whatever I can find that We've
talked about this. Before you order this this this box
of glasses from Amazon, you get three of them, you
immediately lose two of.
Speaker 5: Them, right, so let's see I get eight of them
and immediately lose three of them. So thank you. Switch,
we'll get back to you. Hopefully you had some kind
of an.
Speaker 7: Exciting breakfast to Oh, it was exciting.
Speaker 5: Talk about exciting. Also with this is uh International Senior
Security Chief Willie Cloud w C.
Speaker 9: Marc again, great to be here. I can't believe it's
been a week. I know, I don't know what it
is time this week for some reason.
Speaker 7: Yeah, time is flying by. I don't know access they.
Speaker 9: Call its access, as.
Speaker 7: Is the earth spinning fast.
Speaker 5: It could be Superman might be out this, you know,
flying around. It is things up?
Speaker 9: How fast this week is going, It's been unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's how I feel. I feel like I
go from Tuesday to Tuesday because Tuesday is the show
and Tuesday is also trash Day.
Speaker 9: I feel like I'm bringing the traans I wanted to
give I know stitcher Switch already knows this, but condolences
the I saw that whos.
Speaker 5: I knew this was coming?
Speaker 9: What huhs file for bankrupt.
Speaker 7: No kidding, I did. I did not know that really.
Speaker 5: What went wrong with that?
Speaker 6: They're actually the new CEO is making it a more
family friendly, so they're going to do away with bikinis.
Speaker 5: It's not going to be they'll fix it.
Speaker 8: Well, you know, they tried their breast.
Speaker 5: Switch also with us, also with us up the way
up there in the North Poland, Edmonton, Canada was a
good friend.
Speaker 8: Kim Kim Kim honored as usual.
Speaker 7: Good to see you.
Speaker 2: And and great to see one one at home.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I'm just wondering how many Canadian
parts are in my car? What do you think?
Speaker 5: Well after this year? None? Now who's he looking? He's
what movie stars you're looking like? Look at this?
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 5: Who was she not? He's some British Yeah.
Speaker 2: The guy he cook, some bloody cook.
Speaker 5: Now the people know the people say you look like somebody.
We've said it before, but I forget who it is.
Speaker 2: Man. I was young. He used to get David Letterman.
You are David Letterman.
Speaker 5: I was like David Letterman.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well they were Josh there that was before the
beer gat what's up with that stupid beer?
Speaker 10: Who was the who is the priest for the for
the president there over years and years and years?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: Billy, Billy Graham.
Speaker 5: Billy Graham. Oh yeah, okay, I can see that. Yeah, yeah,
he was close at health to God, wasn't he? So
anyway him, thanks for joining us, and hopefully your there's
a rumor that your lovely wife Sarah will be joining
us later.
Speaker 10: On, right, yeah, I think hopefully we'll come home and
sit in you ays, have something to say something.
Speaker 5: Okay, good, good, that's good. Give us a rest. So
we have a bit and we were going to have
well know, Susan kay tonight, So we had a bit
that was written for her. But then we thought that
because she couldn't join us tonight, we thought that one
of the wages is here might want to read it.
Speaker 7: So that's a work in progress right now.
Speaker 5: Well, actually I was told by our consul that we
probably shouldn't have any Well, counsel, what did you say
about it?
Speaker 6: There are some aspects of it that might be beyond
the scope of asking Friday, a young lady young lady
to come in and do it that we don't really
know very well.
Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, that's high risk.
Speaker 6: Okay, so especially asking Dave to have one of his
employees come in and do it, because the last thing
I want to.
Speaker 5: Do is he'd be named in the suit exactly.
Speaker 8: Look, just have one one put on a dress and
read it.
Speaker 5: Well, we've tried.
Speaker 7: I'm really working game for anything, Okay.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to do it. I'll pretend. I'll pretend.
Speaker 7: No, Mac, that's not your wheelhouse.
Speaker 8: I really wanted to see Mac a Halter shop.
Speaker 5: Duty too. Uh, and then I can sue myself. How
about there you go, there you go? Okay, all right,
so just get to the script. Here the script script, Yeah,
here we go.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's really noisy and here no man the crowded
that we gotta go out there and tell them then
knock it off.
Speaker 5: That'll be a good idea.
Speaker 7: Hey, not at off?
Speaker 5: Okay, introduction except back up, I'm went on the air, guys.
So what this is is it's five questions for JJ
going back to five questions used to be ten, but
now we get it down the floor.
Speaker 7: Got me by surprise.
Speaker 5: Okay. All right, So since you've been back in the
United States for two weeks.
Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, yep, the thirteenth. Let me do the math,
I said, prefer.
Speaker 5: So, I just read the offensive question. Now I guess
I agree with you. Okay, anyway, Number one, all right,
I'm ready. Now that you've bought a cool car, you're
going to mislead back again and say he can borrow
it on weekends.
Speaker 7: I think tonight I'll be game after a couple of
pints to give me the around. I just got the
insurance on it today.
Speaker 5: Okay. Number two, have you had a bullet you?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I have. I went to I went to market basket.
We've got a big box of cheerios. Okay, I got
last week. I got special K and it's awful. It
used to be good. Yeah, yeah, it's awful. I haven't
had that yet.
Speaker 5: Number three, Yeah, have you contacted Lois despite the restrainer?
Speaker 7: Well, I got to find a legitimate reason to contact
her in the first place. Okay, all right, it's got
to be legit. Okay, Yeah, we shall stay on the
phone for a while, but we'll FaceTime.
Speaker 5: Number four, Have you contacted Raven despite the restrainer?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 7: No, not yet. I really I miss Raven. We got
to get we got to get her.
Speaker 5: We all do. Okay, here we go number five.
Speaker 7: I know she's busy.
Speaker 5: Hi, have you quote unquote tributed Lily James since you.
Speaker 7: You know, I haven't. I haven't uh texted Lily James
in a while. Now if I call her, it's a
long distance because she's in the UK. But she's got
in the UK. She just you know, she gets around
the girl. You know, I'm.
Speaker 5: I don't know. He doesn't know what the kids called tributing.
That's maybe.
Speaker 7: I'll have to go. I'll have to go.
Speaker 5: But yeah, look look under friendly fire. Wow. Okay, so
well now you're officially home the Wannie.
Speaker 7: Thank you glad to be here.
Speaker 5: Why don't we do sure, Why don't we take a
break and then get a few things straightened out and
we'll be right back. You're listening to Macaloney's Military's Not
Show here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay
tune and Pete and yeah with.
Speaker 11: One of my favorite people in the world. To be
a hero is someone who fights for a country and
for you. My dad as a hero, homes for our troops,
built this house, and my dad can get through the
wide doorways, she can reach anything.
Speaker 12: Homes for our troops build and donate specially adapted custom
homes nationwide for severely injured Post nine eleven veterans and
enables them to rebuild their lives. Join our mission at
HFOTUSA dot org.
Speaker 13: Do you know where the world's most secret bases are located?
Do you know what spooky action at a distance means?
Is there a conspiracy by Alias to prevent us from
conquering space? And where is the best place in the
United States to see a real UFO? Find the answers
to all these questions and more in mac maloney's new book,
mac Maloney's Haunted Universe. Visit places you never knew existed,
the Phantom Tunnels of Tokyo, the UFO Trail in South America,
Hogg's Hats, and the very Mysterious m Triangle. Mac Maloney's
Haunted Universe contains hundreds of reports on ghosts, haunted place
and ships, weird celebrity deaths, mysterious sounds, and a breakdown
of every monster in America.
Speaker 7: States by state.
Speaker 13: You've heard him talk about it on the radio. Now
get all of Max's paranobal research in one large volume,
Mac Maloney's Haunted Universe, with the forward by the very
famous one One on sale now in your local bookstore
or on Amazon dot com.
Speaker 7: And I just kept going on and on about myself.
I'm taking a leak in the driveway. Just I know
you'd like to talk to total stranger. The story has
got nothing to do with the Bruins Gang. It's what
happened with Grandma. I was wondering if those were Sado
massacresm straps or something. But I digress from what I
don't know.
Speaker 13: Get into the beautiful mind of one one only on
the Mac Maloney Military X File.
Speaker 5: Show, Welcome Back every went to Mac Maloney's Know the
Practice Now show. Here in the distant fund of the
radio network, this is Mac Maloney. Well at a show
we have for you tonight. We're broadcasting live from the
stop at Galley Restaurant, fifty five Wives Street in New Report.
Quite a show for us tonight. Let me very very
quickly introduce the members of the Polose Girls. He's here
back on God's Great Earth, Well America. Anyway, pretty famous
one one.
Speaker 7: Thank God. I mean, I liked U the UK to
a certain extent, but I'm glad to be back in
good old USA. Yeah. Every country's got issues about who cares?
You mean, the USA is a place to go. There's
more variety, more variety. Okay, you know, think God's boring.
But you know, if I had seen Scotland or Wales.
Speaker 5: Don't say Greenland, I look at it. Yeah that's different. Well,
uncle that we have a little uh technology problem. He'll
hit that, okay, all right, and then hit this and
then this. Okay, good now the world makes sense again.
Thank you one one also with us to switch blade
Steve Ward down there. My sister's tank tok West Virginia.
Speaker 8: Great to be here tonight, and he tanked up.
Speaker 5: Okay, when you get your prison triered on again, don't
you have to turn that in on?
Speaker 2: This is uh.
Speaker 5: You know what that is, no idea.
Speaker 8: That's a Darrow, remember, oh.
Speaker 5: The guy that heard the the beings over his Uh.
Speaker 8: That's one of the creatures that allegedly kept him prisoner
for several years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, not very.
Speaker 7: It's the Darrow Clarence Darrow or something.
Speaker 5: But yeah he went on to be a great okay
d E. R Row.
Speaker 8: Yeah, much much different, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Show it again.
Speaker 4: Switch.
Speaker 2: Let's see your shirt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, stand up now that you've talked about it, he
doesn't have any pants on.
Speaker 8: Nice now it says Darrow destroyer.
Speaker 5: Once again, come up here. I do not wear that.
Speaker 7: Also with US, I heard somebody talking to me through
one of those radiators. You know those big radiators that
the types going up and down. Yeah yeah, yeah, sometimes
they clang, but they clang because they want to be heard.
So after they clang, if you pay attention, you'll get
some good stuff. Huh.
Speaker 6: I was I immediately went for some reason too. The
cur with Derby, I'm sorry, yeah, on Rocky and well,
the big shows are Also with US is our international
Senior security chief, Willie Club w B.
Speaker 9: Hey mac Agang, I gotta start wearing some of those
T shirts, like like front Switch has. You don't sell
stuff like that around here, no more sophisticated.
Speaker 5: Well, I guess I could.
Speaker 9: I could get them online.
Speaker 5: You got to do a Nickel and Dana Mora to
get that.
Speaker 8: You got those cheesy places on the internet could buy this.
Speaker 6: I was just going to say that, I's got to
be some place in Cambridge that would have that who
is the.
Speaker 5: Going T shirt? That's funny. Also with us is a
good friend up there in Edmonton, Canada. Kim Shay camp Gory. Yeah,
I love go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby Clerk wasn't Bobby Clerk.
Speaker 5: It was on the show. Yeah a few years ago.
The guy who played the goon was on the show. Yeah,
he was funny. He had a lot of funny stories
about that. Yeah, they did that like out in the
middle of the desert and like they didn't even have
like plots or something. And he's sitting there saying they
could just give me coffee because it like it was
an eight hour shoot for like ten seconds of anyway, Kim, thanks.
Speaker 7: For joining us, for having me on steering the ship.
Speaker 5: Kind of his uncle Ale the kid. He's Pale, our
producer and engineer. I was just a killer. I was
just here for some reason. I don't know why.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's doing a fine job. He's really the architect
of the whole set.
Speaker 5: The architect of the whole that's that's pretty sad.
Speaker 7: When he was pretty impressive. But looking at the guy says, oh,
I can't do this. He did it, and he's like,
we got.
Speaker 5: To get a bigger table. We looked like we're sitting
in a Volkswagen to look at this also with us,
I can I can touch Mac like that's the problem.
We need a bigger bow. Where's my wallet? Okay? I
guess tonight we're gonna have to clap for him organically
until he download The Sweetness of Plause is a good friend.
Greg Masto down there in North Carolina. Please thank you
for having me.
Speaker 4: Happy to be back.
Speaker 5: He's our expert on VR and AI. Also, what's going
on in the video gaming business? Now, just a little
bit of background. You work for quite a while on
the latest Spider Man game, right.
Speaker 14: I did, Yes, yeah, a couple of just go on
Spider Man to some project manager over at Insomnia Games.
Speaker 4: So yep, that was.
Speaker 14: Our big release a couple of years ago. I can
say I'm on Wolverine now, all that I can.
Speaker 5: Say, oh wow, okay, so, but but how long were
you on? How long does Spider Man take from beginning?
Speaker 10: Then?
Speaker 5: It was quite a while, right, that was a while.
Speaker 14: I only joined with about a year to go, so
the full cycle. I'm riby too, but yeah, pretty much
came in to help help ship it and now just
be on the latest and I've been really enjoying it.
Speaker 5: So is it something you just build up gradually? Is
that yet you just a question putting all the pots
of a million pots together?
Speaker 14: Well, with Insomniac, they've had a lot of titles and
now just being a Sony studio, I'd have to kind
of look into how it was originally pitch. But I
know they've had been doing great work. It's a company
I had my eye on down here in North Carolina.
So just really happy to be working with a lot
of talented developers and being part of a big project
like that.
Speaker 5: But you were you had told us on an earlier
interview that that, you know, people as yourself putting these
games together, have been using what you would call AI
for quite a while, right to like my backgrounds and
stuff like that.
Speaker 14: Well more so, I mean, I mean, shoot, we use
kind of like AI even like kind of in the
code and the behavior of enemies. I myself don't use it,
but our you know, our designers, whether it's the kind
of programming they're writing or things like that, they'll do that. No,
most of the art is done our artists. They'll create
that in engine in software. They don't really use AI
for the for the art that's really more for the
talented artists put a lot of that stuff together themselves.
Speaker 5: Is there very like a shelf date on something like
Spider Man will be running the exact same way twenty
years from now, thirty years are you update it?
Speaker 14: Well, twenty years if Insomnia still updating it, that'd be
that'd be a heck of a thing. Really, Like, years
and years from now, a lot of games like that
would get coorted. You know, we see a lot now
on PlayStation and Xbox. A lot of games are either
being remastered or remade or even just kind of ported,
but they were run or programmed on a completely different engine.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 14: And you know you see, like especially with how the
textures can even get stretched, because we're talking like you know,
PlayStation PlayStation two days, those are being played on like
kind of CRT televisions. Now you have these kind of giant,
you know, sixty five inch smart TVs and the textures
just get stretched.
Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 14: I can only imagine, you know, twenty years from now,
what games will look like and how it will look
where it's like, wow, I think the PS five looks amazing,
but you know, if it's like the PlayStation nine like
twenty years from now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what games will look like?
Speaker 5: Well, the technology would have to take some kind of
a leap moving on, so let's just let's start with AI. Okay, Now,
I mean AI is to the point where I have,
you know, I get an AI thing, I think forty
bucks a mouth something like that. I use it in
a variety of different ways. I don't use it as
an expert would use it, you know, but I but
I use it to check like the actually of dates
and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: It raws.
Speaker 5: We we have to come up with an image for
the show every week too, I send out to the
different platforms. So I just like take the title of
this show and put it into this I guess it's.
Speaker 7: Jat c H T chat GB tip right, yep, yep.
Speaker 5: Image generator and it comes up with this, you know,
kind of cool picture every week.
Speaker 7: So do you give it some descriptions or.
Speaker 5: I used to put in the description that we'd the
tagline that we would put like on Spotify and stuff,
but it got too complicated. So now I just put
in the title and yeah, the author being the show,
and then yeah, it always comes up with you know,
say some crazy fifty science fiction cover or something, and
it's it doesn't like ten seconds. It's incredible, But that's
just like me on my old PC somewhere Greg, where
is AI? I mean, like right now? Where is it?
Where is it? When is it going to be the
point that it takes over? Yeah, and that takes over,
but really kind of becomes a part of our lives,
just like your electric bill or on the.
Speaker 7: Light switch when you come to a room. You don't
even think about it.
Speaker 4: Well, we're kind of almost there.
Speaker 14: You point up any search engine, you go up to Google.
Now it's not so much you're not googling anything anymore.
You type in your question and the AI is trying
to search for it. Now, that's kind of being met
with mixed results because maybe hey, you're just trying to
find some info or what's going on, and it's listing
about like five to ten things that are either maybe
irrelevant or not quite what you look for.
Speaker 4: But even you know, you think about it.
Speaker 14: You know, I have a Google Home in a living
room over there and just with the voice activation, just
setting alarms for Oliver.
Speaker 4: And you know, my three year old.
Speaker 14: Gets a kick out of that because he's like, all right,
I want to do three minutes for four bed time
or something. So but he's three years old and is
already like, oh, mom and dad talked to this box
to signal nap time.
Speaker 4: So you know, really we're I mean, we're we're.
Speaker 14: Close to there, and just everything as far as billing it,
you've you've even mentioned you know, to use it, your
uh being charged to certain them how to generate something
as well. So it's pretty dang close, especially from where
we were a few years ago.
Speaker 5: Greg I got question.
Speaker 7: Greg I remember doing trade shows as a profession for
a computer company, and then I attended a lot of
trade shows to see how they you know, display their
wares and how they they talk it up. And I
went to at the World Trade Center in Boston a
virtual reality what they call it, you know VR with
the headset and uh attachments to your body. It was
really minimal attachments to your body, But it's more about
the the like these big goggles over your face, headphones
and maybe uh a tool, like got a toy that
was going to eventually be your sword and you're going
to be doing battle and you were standing on this
platform with a fence around it so that you wouldn't
fall off of it and you're you know, this was
a volunteer thing and you're just acting out you.
Speaker 5: Were doing this, you were volunteered. Yeah, yeah, how long ago.
Speaker 7: Was this this? I think it was the nineties because
that's what I was. That's when I was doing trade
shows a lot of the nineties and then attending other
people's trades.
Speaker 5: So the beginning, the very beginning of ther.
Speaker 7: It's like, wow, look look how far we've gone from.
Speaker 5: Well, here's the funny thing is that so he's a
ladiator his three year old son Ali.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it now is going.
Speaker 5: To it's going to be just like a telephone is
to us, you know exactly that. Okay, you're yell into
this box and it does stuff for you. You know,
remember not not well maybe ten years ago. We were
at this event. Lois was taking pictures and after you
took pictures, people wanted to see it. So she's showing
them on the camera, you know, and this little kid
in a stroller one years old. She's showing the pic
and the kid puts her finger on it and stuff,
you know, scrolling the pictures, and it was like, I
hardly know how to do that, but you know, now
that's just like something that's in you know, like from
dial phones, the push button phones. You know, it was
a big thing, you know. So so do you think
at some point, I mean not think, but I think
when you're gonna have like a smart house, literally a
smart house that's going to do everything for you. Pay
your bills, turning your lights, turn them off, yeah, the works.
I could see someone in just paying one loa fee,
let's say, just a Comcast and I mean I see that,
I see just taking over a lot of the drudgery
that comes kind of from owning a house, right.
Speaker 7: And then sends you on your way in the self
driving car. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so look at this.
Speaker 14: Didn't even Apple have a one of their ads recently
like uh, pay your bill just voice activation. Hey you
have a bill outstanding, you know. And it was the
guy in the ladder, the wife's down below. It's like, yep,
paid it, no problem.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well we instead of sitting down and writing
out all your bills ever, you know, the torture everyone.
Speaker 14: So I'm still very just nope, I need to log
on and make sure I hit the button.
Speaker 7: And yeah, I like doing it myself. If we have
too many auto deductions because.
Speaker 5: It never works for me. Yeah, yeah, never works. You're
never up to date. But so so, so let's go
to virtual reality.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: The one was talking about now these days, I just
see I get about the YouTube because I did some
research in VR, and then now I get a lot
of your YouTube suggestions and I read them and and
the reviews mostly And there was one of this. It
was some kind of an adventure company that that you
know sends you on these adventure kind of trips and stuff.
D V was unbelievable. They're on this, they're on this cliff,
and you know, of course they show you the best
things were on this cliff, and you you couldn't tell
that it was not real. Every aspect of it, from
you know, the sun setting into the ocean is in
the Pacific somewhere, to the ripples on the water. Everyone's around,
some birds would fly by, you walk you can walk
around it, and stuff like that, and yet it's it's
not real. None of it is real. They take another one,
which this is fantastic. They're walking through a forest and
the and the guy there's a there's a fallen tree
and the guy walks up the tree limb he's fifty
feet high in the forest and he jumps down. I
no problem, you know, I mean if it was insane,
this is a travel agency, what what what? What do
you think the deeper minds must have happen?
Speaker 7: That's way beyond the green stream and yeah this is
yeah great?
Speaker 5: So what's it? What's it take to put together something
like that? Do you have to go out and actually
put in on film and then to adapt the film
to your experience?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 14: For the travel, well, especially for anything where you're interacting
with it, you know, there's definitely I think, you know,
just programs you can use. I think for at least
for the travel on like anything they've shot it, they
have it kind of like pre recorded, and whether it's
using a quest or any other kind of VR headset,
it plays in there. I would be curious, you know,
could the person look around or were they kind of
on like a set rail path. That would be kind
of the key difference there, Like if you could look
around while whatever your avatar whomever is climbing up. That
obviously requires a little more, but I know, especially for
folks like travel, it is just kind of doing that
shot that you see similar to like what peloton or
those exercise places do or you want to go run
on this trail and they've had like camera kind of gopal.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. The the thing that got me was every
once in a while there would you know, someone push
a button or something and the three avatars would would
would you know, would kind of jump up, you know.
But my question was was if you're if if two
people are and you know, have the I headsets and
they're playing the same game, they go to the same place,
let's say, and they're walking, do you have to be
up physically kind of walking in place? Do you know
what I mean? Do the actions that you take in
the have to kind of match your physical actions.
Speaker 14: It Well, it really depends on I guess the VR
app you're using a lot of them, especially kind of
in games you have the two controllers that serves as
your motion or moving or kind of click to move.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, but as.
Speaker 14: You pointed out, there are obviously a lot more expensive
ones where they kind of have you like not quite
on a treadmill, but it kind of matches your motion
there so as you walk, the system boots in so
you start walking as well. But literally what you can
get like the quest. You know, it draws the circle,
so you have it in that range. And again with
just like a joystick like on any kind of video
game controller, that's what you kind of push to move
while you can you know, look around and see the environment.
Speaker 5: So can could two people playing the same game be
in the in converse with each other?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a lot of Yeah, there's a lot of.
Speaker 14: Whether it's kind of even chat ones that people can
just talk in put on an avatar where there's multiple people.
There's games too, I think I had mentioned before the
Beat Saber one. It's like you have to kind of
lightsabers and you're kind of going to the motions kind
of playing to playing together with someone's So yeah, the
spaces are there where multiple people can be in, whether
they use it for a chat or use it for
a game.
Speaker 4: Yes, those do exist.
Speaker 5: So when does that become part of allies? Just as
much as being on computers? Now, are you know watching TV?
I mean you know if you can take yourself out
to you know, to bally you know, Bora Bora or something.
I see a lot of people doing that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's it's always so different right like
because right now I s field VR is still a
bit niche where uh you know, there's there is a
following and the accessibilities getting a lot better there. But
again it's like what do you what are you using
this for? Using to play games? Do the chats to
your point? You know, to actually see those locations is
one thing, but how do you capture actually being there
kind of triggering your other senses? Right, Yes, I'm sure
there are markets and teams trying to get that because
obviously it's you know, the.
Speaker 4: World's getting a little more expensive.
Speaker 14: But at the same time, just if there's ways we
can see these locations or you know, say, uh, someone
and it's just like not easy for them to fly, but.
Speaker 5: You know you could, yeah me, yes, but but don't
I think it also, I mean, it certainly helps people
who are shut ins, whether they voluntarily or not, you know,
people who are sick or whatever. But I also see
it taking over some day, taking over just stuff you
do to entertain yourself now, like television going on to movie.
Speaker 7: It's finding its way into movies and TV. I think, uh,
you all that in subtle ways, but it's it's coming
and it's like in the you know, sag the screen
Actors Guild and all those unions the complained about it, right,
worried about what's going to happen with their talent.
Speaker 5: Well, even on YouTube now, I mean you can always tell.
I mean they always suck me in because it's something like, yeah,
the Zeppelin has dramatic announcement you want, and it's just
some AI thing they put together a bunch of stock clips.
They have someone talking. They always sound Scandinavian and and
it's just like old rehash stuff, you know, and they
sound Scanday say yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: And they always have that kind of sweetish as well.
Speaker 4: And that's going to be the big problem too.
Speaker 14: We're going to see a lot of and I think,
especially from a legal standpoint, just is that video real
or not.
Speaker 4: It's a big problem with with AI.
Speaker 14: It's where I get a little concerned with it because,
like I said, you know, I work with a lot
of talented artists. My wife Sarah is a very talented
artist in the games industry, and I feel sometimes with
a AI are especially sometimes for others that could be
you know, kind of the easy way I can. I
can do this and save your company a bunch of
money without these artists. But you know, you look at
it and it's kind of just the life, isn't there.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing over and over. Like I totally
get it.
Speaker 14: Where I've messed around with chat GPT things like okay, wow,
it's smart, I can make those items. But where is
it pulling that art from? Where you know it was
the original artist? Are they kind of getting host now
because it's actually just stealing their art and mix and
matching it with others?
Speaker 7: Right right? Had it come from somewhere? So you know, wow, crazy?
I know Jimmy Page would be cool with it. He
just stole everything and there he adapted it, he improved.
Speaker 5: It so well you got a couple of minute stuff.
So great.
Speaker 7: H So you're on Wolverine now, the Wolverine video game?
Speaker 5: Is that? How he?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay? And a few years ago yep, okay. Is there
is there a launch date for it.
Speaker 4: Or that that that I cannot see.
Speaker 5: The top secret? Wow?
Speaker 4: Yeah, still still top secret on that.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, we're talking we're talking double secret probation.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, funny.
Speaker 7: Well you get any huh cooperation from the actors and
actresses who were in the movie Wolverine.
Speaker 4: Uh, that I also cannot say we had.
Speaker 5: It sounds like a year there. It sounds like a yeah,
we're gonna have to go see these movies.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 5: Well, listen to hey, Greg, thanks very much. Hopefully Ollie
has a good day tomorrow in school.
Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely well.
Speaker 5: I love my first day in kindergarten. Okay, even though
my teacher was in Alvino named miss White. How about
that got me?
Speaker 7: Miss White?
Speaker 5: Just like just like you said, I went next day.
I said to my mother, I gotta go back. I
gotta go back.
Speaker 7: Yep. Twenty two years later, I'm getting out of college.
I hated every minute.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Thank you, Greg, we appreciate we're gonna give you
an organic.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 5: Guys, we're out of the plustil we figure out how
to do it on the special effects. All right, we'll
see you very soon. Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Thanks Greg.
Speaker 7: All right, bye bye.
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break now and we'll be right
back after this. You're listening to macloney's Military, so I'll
show here in the distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tun.
Speaker 1: Mc maloney fans, this is pistol Pte.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 1: You know, by all reports, twenty twenty five is going
to be a rough and tumble year. Who knows what's
gonna happen next, but whatever it is, you should be prepared.
And to help you do that, Mac Maloney's Military X
Files has assembled the one and only one one survival pack.
That's right, the one one survival pack. It includes a
seat cushion, a fan, a big box of Kleenex, a
big box of wifes, a squeegee, and some kind of lube.
Everything you need for when the asteroid hits. Now you've
heard Mac talk about it a thousand times on his show,
and now you can get this marvelous addition to any
underground bunker by simply writing to the mc maloney show
and telling us why you deserve the one one survival pack.
That's right, Just tell us in a couple of sentences
why you should win the one one survival pack that
will put all the entries into a magic fish pole
and pick out three lucky winners.
Speaker 5: That's the one in all.
Speaker 1: One one survival pack containing a fluffy seat cushion, a
hand fan, a big box of double plied Kleenex, a
big box of industrial sized wipes, a rubber squeegee, and
some kind of lube approved by the United States Surgeon General.
Enough to get you through those tough times when the
apocalypse is happening right outside your door. That's the one
one survival pack and why you should win it. Write
us at Macaroni one thousand at my yahoo dot com.
That's Macaroni one zero zero zero at my yahoo dot com.
It's spelled just like the pasta Macaroni one thousand at
my yahoo dot com USA and Canada only. All results
are final. Please no loot photographs at deltoys or puppets.
Speaker 5: And welcome back everyone to mc maloney's Militracks down the
show here in the distant Thunder Radio Network. This is
Mac mac maloney. We're broadcasting live tonight from the Stabbed Galley,
fifty five Washington Street, Newbyport, mass Great Seafood Restaurant, Great
Hamburg's Great Steak, and she's Sammy. Let me quickly introduce
the members of the place. Here, girls, he's here, the
very famous wan One.
Speaker 7: Hello girls, Hello Mac, Hello, everybody, all ships at sea,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: What's funny is now you're the You're the loudest one
on the show. How did he work his way into
doing that?
Speaker 7: I know, well, I gotta get in the groove here
and get used to mingling with the krowat here at
the restaurant. Okay, all right, I met somebody named Vicky,
Vicky who's on our way out, on the way out,
and she said, oh, rolling stone shirt and the rolling
Stones hat, huh. And she started talking to me about
the stones and rock and roll music and she says,
you're a roadie. On the way out. She's on the
way out the door with her mother, and her mother
stopped me and was jokingly saying, are you flirting with
my daughter? She's married? I said, was I flirting? Will
we sorry normally talk?
Speaker 5: What will we do during all this?
Speaker 7: And you're here messing around with the tables and uh stuff?
Speaker 5: He and the cook are back. Thank you one one
also with us down there in West Virginia my sister's
tank top, West Virginia, Switchblade, Steve Ward switch.
Speaker 8: Great to be here tonight.
Speaker 5: Okay, everything okay with you?
Speaker 8: Everything is beyond wonderful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, are those glasses? Could it? Could it be
they get a little docker at night or something like that,
they had not the same glasses you were a couple
of weeks ago.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry that they're identicalt but probably maybe the same
pair I have somewhere in his house. I have approximately
half a million of these these basic the basic glasses
from Amazon. All right, So just so it could be
could be the same ones.
Speaker 5: I know it's not me. Doesn't it look like he
has like partial sunglasses on?
Speaker 7: I mean definitely look a little bit tempted.
Speaker 8: Maybe he has two black eyes, because the dark circles
under my eyes. That could be it.
Speaker 5: Thank you for clarent. Also with us as our international
Senior security Chief, Willie Club.
Speaker 9: Willie, Yeah you got that right this time? Thanks? Yeah, okay,
thank you before you as I'm doing great, okay, all right,
and and the way the show is running tonight, I'm
feeling even better.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: Wherever I see Club, I always have to ask him
how about them red sox?
Speaker 5: Huh oh, don't bring about come on, we'll say that
for another day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're in last place?
What more do you needs to know?
Speaker 9: They're consistent?
Speaker 5: That's what I like. Also with us is our Getaway
Drive here and Mass b Killer Engineering producer Ley Kitties Mack. Hello, everybody,
how can they be in the last place? Haven't have
they even had a home game yet.
Speaker 6: No, they've lost four of their first Well, let's just
you know, nervous jitters to be that's all.
Speaker 5: That's all. Yeah, they'll get a great reception when they
come back to Fenway anyway. Also with us is Buddy Boom,
a good friend up there in Edmonton, Canada. Probably doesn't
know this baseball stuff we're talking about. Kim Shay, Kim,
how are you?
Speaker 10: How do you folks? Glad to be here? We love baseball.
Canadians are baseball fans, man, I think so. Yeah, I
think this part of the world. We had a great
little team that plays out of our city here, but
just a farm lead day. I mean, we've had such
good that I think the last player I remember that
was a really.
Speaker 2: Good one was Kitle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right, back a few.
Speaker 2: Years yeah, that was the Trappers and I think they.
Speaker 5: Were the Minton Trappers.
Speaker 2: I think San Diego.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, back when I went to Niagara Falls and
the and we stayed on the Canadian side, Yes, I
Leen and I before we went to the UK.
Speaker 5: Ahead.
Speaker 7: This Toronto stuff for sale everywhere, the Blue yeah, Blue
Jay stuff everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this stadium is incredible. You can get a hotel
room when it looks right down onto the field and stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did it right.
Speaker 5: Also with us is a good friend Greg Masto down
there in North Carolina via AI in video gaming expert. Greg,
How are you doing very well?
Speaker 4: Very well?
Speaker 5: Are you all okay?
Speaker 7: Greg?
Speaker 5: We excited all about the n C double as the
final four. You get into that like your father.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I dude, it's just it's all one seed.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's not as.
Speaker 4: It's been kind of a boring one this time around.
Poo poo on it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, well you always wait for there's always those
like a couple of Cinderella teams that make it to
the sweet sixteen. You're like, I thought I was rooting
for Grand Canyon you this year, and because you know
they're going to get stomped in the sixteen, so you
bet against it. But that's another show.
Speaker 7: Also with us, is there any new England teams in
the final four? Oh no, so BC got bounced out.
Speaker 14: Well yeah, you've got women are in the final four
of the women.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but nothing up this Also with us is
we're going to clap him in organically to his Chris
aur good friend Chris n C. I s N O
A A. And also Hollywood and TV star Chris. How
are you.
Speaker 15: Doing great man, thanks for having me. Happy to be here.
Speaker 5: Now you and I have known each other far. Wow,
I don't know, fifteen years maybe, I think so. Yeah.
You run a destroyer off of the coast of Somalia
looking for pirates and I just came up with a
book called The Pirate Hunters, and so publisher got some
kind of promo going, and we sent three hundred people
on the destroyer a copy of the book. Is that
how it happened? Has happened so long ago?
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 16: I saw like a thing on the back jacket, you know,
for a free patch, and I wrote to you and
I said who we were and what we're doing, and
everybody on the boat got a book and it.
Speaker 15: Was it was great. So we really enjoyed that.
Speaker 5: And that was great marketing. Mac So, but in those
days you were bought. Now you were working for NCIS,
which is basically the police the detective agency of the
US Navy. Right, yes, okay, so so but at that time,
whence you a body god for an ad we're on
or something.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So, after I finished the count of piracy deployment.
I went into our Protective Operations Division, and I was
the seven fleet Commander's personal security advisor, and.
Speaker 5: So didn't East Glindsafari's and stuff like that, just to
check our national interest in Yes, when.
Speaker 16: I was in Africa, I was with a commander joint
test for sort of Africa and so the general there,
and so we went through all East Africa thirteen countries.
Speaker 5: Nice, yeah, wow, wait and get paid for it. And
get paid for now you were his body guy. So
what would you carry as a armament.
Speaker 16: To Yes, when we were overseas, it was the old
six hour P.
Speaker 15: Two two eights okay?
Speaker 5: And what are they are?
Speaker 15: It's a nine millimeter.
Speaker 5: Crystal yep, okay, yep.
Speaker 16: And then we switched over to the glock nineteen later
on in my career.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, yeah, glock's I'm familiar with. So did
you have a carry a noozy you ever play? Ever
played with? As you have a fire a nosy?
Speaker 16: I have fire and newsy in training. I'm a farms instructor.
But we would carry like the short like the MP
five okay, and then also the AR fifteen short barrel
right right?
Speaker 5: How about an AK forty seven. Have you ever fired
one of those?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I love AK.
Speaker 16: So we seize a bunch of them on the piracy
mission and then we throw them overboard after we seize them.
Speaker 5: Oh is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, they're including the waters with AK forty seven.
Speaker 5: There's more a K forty sevens in the world than
any other fire, any other combat weapon. You know, that's home.
They're everywhere. Everyone has Them's up to the US. So, Chris, So,
now what have you been doing lately? So you you
were at n O National Oceanographic.
Speaker 15: What National Oceanic and Atmosphereic Administrated?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, and so you were a fish cop
for a while, right, you're still with the fish cops, right, yep.
Speaker 16: For now, we're just watching the news to see what happens.
But uh, right now, yeah, we're still still trucking and
protecting the oceans.
Speaker 5: Okay. And what what Yeah Manhattan, someone had a book
called Lobster Mobsters. I mean, is that what you do
is you go after people what fishing? Too much? Over fishing?
Speaker 16: Yeah, So we we have jurisdiction in the economic excol
usive zone, which is basically from nine miles out to
two hundred miles, and then we enforced all the federal fisheries,
so the commercial fishing industry regulations, and then we also
do like Marine Mammal Protection Endangered Species Act, and then
on land we do the seafood fraud and smuggling anything
like that.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's awesome, Chris. Yeah, So so what are you
trying to protect? You know? Basically is that if someone
buys you know, they say Chilian sea bess, it's not
from Chili, it's not from the sea. It's not really
a bass or something, you know, I mean.
Speaker 15: It's correct.
Speaker 16: Yeah, a lot of times it's we'll have importers and
people who will you know, bring in a product that's
not from the country they're saying it is right, and
then sell it to the consumer, assault to restaurants for
a premium price, you know. Or we'll have you know,
products that aren't you know, dolphin safe or you know,
caught ethical ways and they're.
Speaker 15: Putting fake labels on it, sure, and then to consumer that.
Speaker 5: Way, right, I should say, excuse me, should mention that
after Chris and I got to know each other, I
had a chance to write a yeah, four books series
based on his adventures Chris became Chris sta and the
name of the books of code named Staman Books. There's
four of them out now on sale everywhere. But but
the first book, I remember you we got together kind
of we were talking about these different cases that you had,
and I believe is the Philippines, and I think, I
you're married two together, But wasn't one of them like
the most famous tea girl in Manila was murdered or
something by a marine.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was based on a real case.
Speaker 16: Uh was a marine that killed a prostitute in the
Philippines judicated, so you know, so.
Speaker 5: Kind of like the Musnim that's was the name of
the movie. The Guessing Game, what was yeah? Yeah? Or
the Crying Game. Okay, just at last minute figured there
was a stick shifting well, you know, sometimes much hardware.
He wasn't aware of, but these days you never know
what you know. So and then there was another one
about how they were spuggling cleverly smuggling guns into some
place or whatever. So I remember just kind of marrying together.
But I don't want to ask you. Well, I'll ask
you how old are you now? You look like you're
about twenty seven.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll be forty three next month.
Speaker 7: Wow, you know yeah, yeah, Okay, he's in shape, he's
got a good groom. Look at Yeah. Yeah, he's got
a good face, a good grip.
Speaker 15: As the kids said, yeah, seeks off of vacation.
Speaker 5: So oh maybe week and your wife is just one.
Why don't we just tell people how you met your wife?
You lucky sky in the world or one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So she was working for the Japanese Navy. She was
the translator for their Chief of Navy and then my
always having a meeting a kind of their pentagon and
she happened to be a fan of the NCSTV show
and we hit it off, and then yeah, we got
married because our admirals, you know, worked there. We actually
got married on aircraft carrier in Tokyo.
Speaker 5: Didn you have a bunch of admirals at your wedding too.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we had ten stars there and they're all singing karaoke.
It was great.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, let's be man, So let's just get let's down,
go over to your Hollywood TV side. So what have
you been doing lately?
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I just finished nineteen twenty three season two
in my episode just there last week.
Speaker 5: There now was that is that a sequel somehow related
a Yellowstone or a.
Speaker 15: Prequel Yeah, the Tailor Sheridan universe.
Speaker 16: Okay, prequel or prequel to Yellowstone sequel to eighteen eighty three.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's all in there. And what do you
you they's best friends or something like that. What's your wrong?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 8: I was?
Speaker 16: It was actually the scene where she's getting off the
train in Chicago and uh, it's in the train station
some one of the smoking man in like a cool
phone booth there passing by.
Speaker 7: Just yeah, nice. Okay, So now how'd you get called
for that gig?
Speaker 5: Yeah? How do you do that? Do you have an ag?
Do you have an agent? You have a Y?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 16: So I got my SAG card when I was in Hawaii,
was becoming a trople frontier with like Ben Affleck, and
then it's easier to get a Union card in Hawaii
than it is like La or New York.
Speaker 15: And then I was able to apply that.
Speaker 16: And so now in Texas, I have an agent and
then yes, parts come up and luckily, you know, Teller
Sheridan has like eight or nine projects going on on
the Dallas Fort Worth area. Nice, And so I've been
able to do that, and then a Walker Texas ranger
I was filming in Austin, so I got to do that.
Speaker 15: So there's a lot of a lot of opportunities here.
Speaker 16: I think they just put another five hundred million dollars
into the Texas economy for film industry.
Speaker 5: Oh cool. Yeah, Well there's nice weather and a lot
of times, I'll tell you really need That's why the
people are in Hollywood had nice weather. You know, you
didn't have to worry about, you know, too many cloudy
days or whatever. But so so when you know, you're
just talking about how you played the guy in the
phone booth, Okay, how long did it take for them
to film that? And then how long are you on
the screen?
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, So I mean you'll have one scene that's
made be two or three minutes, and it'll take a
full twelve hours to.
Speaker 15: Do those two or three minutes.
Speaker 16: Yep, yep, And the actual screen time, like they'll cut
away and the shot you're in might be five to
ten seconds.
Speaker 5: Right right? Okay, And where do you see yourself in
ten years starring in nineteen nineteen or something?
Speaker 16: Yeah, so that's you know, I've got seven more years
until I can retire from Noah. Okay, you know, I'll
have a lot more free time. So they've got a
four year old now, so it's tough to get away.
And really, do you know long projects? So I think
once I'm retired or semi retired, I'll start doing more,
you know, full time projects.
Speaker 5: What's what's kind of funny about all of this? As
you went to Texas A and M right, okay, and
and you've been in this kind of crazy war iron Force,
a military so on and so forth. But what did
you get your degree in theater arts? Theater rights? Okay? Right,
don't worry, kids, All that money isn't going to waste,
mom and dad. That is a good career path out
of So how do you make that leap by I
don't have to ask you this before. So you get
out and you have a theater route, so you should
be heading to Broadway and Stove. So how'd you make
that leap to n cis?
Speaker 16: Well, you know, my dad was a DEA agent, and
so I kind of always grew up in federal law
enforcement and I knew that. You know, they teach you
what they need at the academy, and so when you
come out with a criminal justice degree. It's like you're
a dime a dozen, and so he needs something like
separates you to get in and figure out. With the theater,
it's you know, it's improvisation, it's communication, it's acting for undercover.
You know, it's a lot of writing and you know,
working with a team. Right, And so I took those
those skills from theater and applied it to law enforcement.
Speaker 5: Excellent, right, so perfect. You also used to interrogate bad guys, right, Oh?
Speaker 15: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: And what was your what was your m O when
you did that?
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, and it's you get on their level,
you know, especially with these you know, like people who
like child exploitation cases and people have really like sordid
sick you know type crimes.
Speaker 5: Bad people.
Speaker 16: They feel embarrassed and they don't want to tell you
their secrets because they know by admitting that they're going
to go to jail for a long time. So to
really like, you know, it's okay, I understand. You know,
I feel the same way. You know, to really empathize
with them, you have to act, because it's like the
most deplorable types of crimes. Yes, and once they trust
you and they know, hey, he's not judging me.
Speaker 15: They open up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, funny, but you can't you once say that.
Sometimes you'd say to people say I don't care if
you tell me the truth, and I'm like here, if
you plead guilty, I'm going home soon, that type of thing,
and they just say, well.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, that's at the end of the day.
Especially with the military, you know, they're forced to be there.
You know, they're unlike with civilian law enforcement, where we
have to hunt them down and they can come in
or not. The military puts them in that chair and says,
you will talk to them, and so we really have
to make it a point to let them know what
their rights are. You know, they don't have to talk
to us, even though they're ordered to be there. And
whether or not they talk, you know, they're going to
be held responsible with their command.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right. So the reason that n CIS came about
in the first place is, if I can remember, is
after a something called the tailhook you know, incident hook scandals,
and where they were, uh, they were the pilots on
any craft carrier were acting inappropriately to the female sal
Let's let's say, and I guess when they had the
Navy investigate itself. It didn't come out as well as
they wanted, so they basically set up an independent investigative
force for the Navy, right.
Speaker 16: Yep, that's exactly right. He It was a convention in Vegas.
And you know, under that time, we were had a
military command. We had an six like a general or
a captain who was over the investigative service. And then
if you know, the brass didn't like the investigation results,
they would just shut it down or order people to
stand down.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 16: And so we became separate directly to Secretary of the Navy,
and the Army actually just did the same thing a
few years ago after the Fort Hood incidents.
Speaker 5: Oh really okay, yeah.
Speaker 15: More towards civilian law enforcement within the military.
Speaker 5: Right, Interesting, do they have any pushback from the military
people themselves? And well, you know, not really in the Navy.
Speaker 15: So absolutely.
Speaker 16: I remember at a case in in Pensacola and it
was it was the Marine Air Wing, but it was
on the naval base since we had a marine case,
and we went to the major of that command and
he says, you handle the Navy, We'll handle the Marine Corps.
Speaker 15: No, No, it's all our responsibility.
Speaker 5: Right, right, It doesn't work like that, right. The Marines
are basically the Navy's on me, so the Navy is
in control of the Marines. So wow, wow, you well
you've had quite a life there, my friend. Okay, and
and and can we tell you can are you going
to be anywhere? We can see you in the future
in the movie?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 16: Uh, you know, the the new series that they've filmed
was land Man. Uh and it was last season. Was
the first season they're just filming season.
Speaker 15: Was Billy Bob Thornton yep, Lion asked, is another project
they're doing?
Speaker 7: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 16: So there's they just started filming, so I think there's
doing episode one. So right now I'm waiting, but I think, uh,
tell in town and you know.
Speaker 5: What do you do? How many days in advance or
do they give you days in advance to be on
the set? Do you know when you're going to go?
Speaker 16: Yeah, so typically it's about a month in advance for
when they start filming the episode, and so you've got
time to you know, do your audition, to do costume fitting,
you know, travel to a location if it's on location,
and then you kind of know. But then obviously there
have been times when I was doing eighteen eighty three
where I was literally driving and I was halfway, was
four hours driving to Dallas. I had a call saying, hey,
we're postponing the shoot today and we can't do it,
so I have to turn around.
Speaker 15: And go home.
Speaker 5: Man, Okay, wow, but now you told us ones that
didn't you win? And they wanted you to have a
certain look and they just kind of gave you that look.
Was it a terrorist look or something like that? One?
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, And that's that's kind of the thing,
kind of that ambiguous you know, nationality.
Speaker 7: So you know.
Speaker 15: They shaved me and change my hair and you know,
whatever they need me to do.
Speaker 7: That's a good word for us.
Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but Greg, you know, you
might be good at that too. Actually, where are you from?
I'm ambiguous? Next question, that's funny, that's fine.
Speaker 7: Oh hey Chris on nineteen twenty three, have you ever
talked to or met Isabelle May?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Please? Okay, she iss smoke show or what?
Speaker 15: Yeah? And then yeah, I think she's in in landman
as well.
Speaker 16: So yeah, recycle some of the characters really well.
Speaker 2: One one, Hey, Chris, can you ride a horse?
Speaker 15: I can. I'm a Texan.
Speaker 2: I bet you that helps a lot.
Speaker 16: Horses, motorcycles, having any of those you know, skills that
they can just throw you in and say, hey, we
need someone to do this right.
Speaker 5: Right, so they have a pool of you know, people
that they can count on right for being extras and
so on and so forth. Right, Well, that's.
Speaker 16: Nice, absolutely, And the way they this production kind of
does it is like you you show up and then
it's just kind of like organic, like hey, you come
here and they'll put you in the scene or hey,
here's a line or you know, it's not really necessarily
script in advance. It's more just what they need at
the time and what you're looking for and what your
particular outfit might be.
Speaker 5: Right, can we can we just pry and ask you
what is it a day rate? Is that what they
paying you?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 16: So that's the one of the advantages of being sag
because there's a certain scale and so you know, one
of the in Texas there's no.
Speaker 15: Union, no unions, but really.
Speaker 16: In the Hollywood, so when the that's why a lot
of productions come here so they don't have to follow
the certain union.
Speaker 15: But if you're cast in a sag role.
Speaker 16: Then you obviously get better pay, better food, better bathrooms,
accommodations priority.
Speaker 15: Okay, so that's one of the advantages of keeping your
membership up.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so this is just like extra coin
to you, is just like kind of you know, funny money.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, I mean I've got I think I've got
four side hustles.
Speaker 5: Well that's great.
Speaker 7: Wow, wait that sounds like fun Well, Chris, thanks to
the answer.
Speaker 5: We appreciate it, and why don't we once again, we're
going to figure out how they did with the specialist acts.
Speaker 7: Until that, I gotta figure out how to get a
gig like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you can.
Speaker 7: I mean I am I am classified as an I
A T. S. GRIP Okay, okay, but I haven't gripped
in a while.
Speaker 5: That's what she said. You know, I don't know, maybe
maybe a retired terrorists.
Speaker 7: You now that I have more time off, because usually
when you're on a call for a movie, they want
you at least like six seven weeks. Yes, even though
I had that much vacation, I would have to burn
all my vacation for my real job, and we do
the gig.
Speaker 5: I always bring this up by Chris, that.
Speaker 10: That fisheries, that fisheries uh division that you work for.
I was watching lately that there's some crazy stories about
that the rich people are hunting mermaids and eat them.
Speaker 5: There's your movie. Wow, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: What a big deal.
Speaker 10: The way that sounds it was, it was crazy, this
whole story. I thought, Wow, there's some videos on it too.
Speaker 5: Actually, so there's like really yeah, just.
Speaker 10: Kind of yeah, you guys are implicated in it. Actually,
they have one of your cubes sitting on the back
of a fishing boat. It's this guy that was putting
out videos and YouTube and he's been banned or something,
but was hearing weird noises on the end of a
fishing boat.
Speaker 2: And I guess the story was it supposedly they were.
Speaker 10: Catching mermaids and selling them to the rich people and
if they eat them, they live forever.
Speaker 7: Okay, anyway, what a concept must be true?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one.
Speaker 7: It's that that's talking about having a piece of tail.
It's that too. Right there we go.
Speaker 5: Now, well, Chris, thanks very much for joining us. We
appreciate it, and we'll talk to you very soon and
give us best to your wife and your son.
Speaker 15: Okay, yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for having me pleasure and.
Speaker 5: The latest code name STI Man just came out and
now I'll send you a copy. Okay, fantastic, Okay, I'll
take you about an hour and a half to read it. Door.
Thank you, Christ, We appreciate it. Why don't we take
a quick rush break now and we'll be right back
after this. You're listening to mccloney's military expos here on
the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned. Mum hm,
welcome back. Every went to mc maloney's military still show
here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac.
I'm roney. What a show we have for you tonight. First, well,
let me introduce the members of the Plastic Girls. He's
here sitting at the same table, the same small table
as us, pretty famous one one.
Speaker 7: Thank you mack. Here. I am in the flesh. I
had a starboard galley bouncing up and get some flesh
out there and just having a good time. Thank you
very much for the introduction. And I just I'm glad
to be back from the UK. You know, England has
some some virtue. Yeah, the cuisine is not great, but
I do love and his hips very boring, very boring,
now very boring kind of yeah, okay, driving is not
great in the UK and the roads are awful.
Speaker 5: And then on the right side of the road to begin. Yeah,
that's that part two. It drives me crazy anyway, So
thanks for joining us. Also with us as all the
Kiddies panel, I produced the Engineer and Mass b Killer.
Speaker 7: My poor bees.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: One hive was alive up to a couple of days ago.
Speaker 8: We getting there.
Speaker 5: When it warms up, I'll see if they're still there. Okay,
all right, okay, and now'll determine the k I a
count anyway. Also with us to switch Blade Steve Wood, Switchy.
Speaker 8: Great to be here tonight, Mac.
Speaker 5: And also Willie Club. You know their titles already, so
I'll dispense at that side of Willie. How are you doing?
W you forgot it? Well? No, for good is not
the right one.
Speaker 9: Oh that's okay. But I want to give you an
accolade for the guests we have tonight.
Speaker 5: Yes, great guests, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And one of them is ticking around with us, Greg
Master down there in North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Greg doing very well, doing very well.
Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's good. And how far are you? Aren't
you really right near one of the university right near
one of the colleges there?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I'm about ten minutes from NC State. Yeah,
we're real real close to rally. But can get to
Duke or UNC Chapel Hill in about thirty minutes. Yeah,
the college basketball country out here.
Speaker 5: And isn't it that you go into the bays there
you can only win to sertain Bos if you're a
duke person. And I mean, is it really that divided?
Speaker 14: I would say Chapel Hill has Chapel Hill has a
lot of the anti duke stuff out there.
Speaker 4: Durham isn't too bad. Durham's a pretty big city. I'm
sure near the college itself is bad.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 14: The NC State bar is more for football season, i'd
say there, Oh sure hostile and of course the fun
run they had last year this year not so much.
Speaker 5: But right right, yeap? And where's Belichick? Now? Where is he?
Speaker 14: He's at UNC Chapel Hill with his twenty five year
old girlfriend.
Speaker 5: Wow, she's that old.
Speaker 4: Sure she's making sure she can get her undergrad.
Speaker 7: Did I see a picture of Bill?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: What's your name? Jordan? And Jordan looks like a mermaid. Yes,
and he's there on the beach.
Speaker 5: When he's lifting her up probably Wow.
Speaker 7: Wow that was the Halloween costume.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 7: And he reposted on three eight day Yeah oh is that?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Noboy, my not to tell tails out of school.
My nephew was at Federal Marshall and he was down
a mile ago for a while before the election, and
there's a partty every night there, they had a Halloween
potty and this cop pulled up and the guy says, hey, listen,
can you help me over here? You know, so my
you know, my nephews says okay, and he it was Belichick,
and he helped her out of the cash because she
was in a mermaid she couldn't walk carrier did. He
carried her to the point where they called up and
they brought down a golf cart and put her on
and off she goes, right, and thinking, well, did they
think this out? Are they going to carry her around
for the entire party or whatever?
Speaker 7: Now everybody knows it's listening, knows who Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5: Is, right, there's famous football coach who you know. But
but those pictures in the way that he's it was
just like, oh man, we want to see that. You
know what I mean, you know what creepy.
Speaker 7: It appeals to my purient interest. So I do want
to see you use a big word now. I want
us period.
Speaker 5: So anyway, so we had this story real quick switch,
you have anything exciting for breakfast?
Speaker 8: I just had the super breakfast at Tutor's Biscuit Worlds.
I guarantee you that Tutors, with all the money i'm
i'm I pay out there, is not going bankrupt.
Speaker 9: All right, Well you better go ask the the Enager
because you know down south I told you who.
Speaker 5: Uses the name, just to see what the first letter
in the name is. So we had this story. I
saw this story about it not even a week ago,
and it was just like, you know, the headline just
said what it was like. The CIA was somehow they
found this out. Maybe it was in connection with the
Kennedy assassination papers that were just released or whatever. But
the first of the CIA had a program. They'd say
they don't have it now, but they did definitely have
it up until the nineties of remote viewing, and basically
they would take these people who had this ability to
see things very far away. A number of them would
do well, this is how they would do it. They
were higher them, they were they were employees of the CIA,
and they would ask them if they saw a certain
something at a certain location on Earth, and sometimes it'd
be like a secret Russian military bas or something like that.
They would they would use their information to basically bolster
other intelligence that they got. You know, they might have
an eyewitness and then they might have a satellite photo
and then if the if the remote viewers saw it,
then there was kind of like you know, the so
so the crowning cool of it, if the remote viewers
saw what the real intelligence was seeing. It also tells
you how talented the remote viewers were. Anyway. So now
somehow is a story out that they found the Aca Covenant,
which was this thing that was you know, very very
valuable to you know, the Jewish people in the Old Testament.
I mean, there's been movies made about trying to get
it back and stuff like that, and it has supposed
to have all these supernatural powers they found and then
they didn't tell anyone. So I'm going to throw it
to club for us. We club Club. You kind of
looked into this.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks Mac, you know you when you asked me
to research this, I didn't realize what I was getting into.
But anyway, so just I'll give a brief overview of
what this is in my theory, okay, which is based
on facts and it's a little controversial. But anyways, as
you mentioned, you know, the project that this is was
in one of the remote viewing projects was called Project
sun Street Creek Streak, and that project was one of
many that the CIA had during those periods of the
seventies and eighties. Uh and a lot of this was training.
They really were training exercises, and so what they would
do is, you know, they would have a particular subject
that they'd want one of their reviewers to go after
in Project sun Street. I don't know how many projects
that were, but there was more than just the the
one with friends on the So I'm just trying to
I'm trying to read this regarding the the whole issue
of sorry no sorry, I've lost my place, okay. But anyways,
the Act of the Covenant that was the key part
of this training exercise. Now I know that I think
that Switch and Kim also probably had done some research
on it. Because the thing that I don't don't have
an answer for is we know why they released all
this stuff. That's all part of the current regime. They
wanted to declassify everything. But there's a lot of hype
of this which is overhyped. My question is, first of all,
they presented this right now. The hype going out is
that the c I, a remote viewer, actually located the
Act of the Covenant. There's no proof, as you know,
when it comes to remote viewing, they have to test it.
Speaker 5: Yes, all we've.
Speaker 9: Got here is a remote viewer coming up with information
that relates to what they describe what they saw. There's
no one that was able to go to the particular
site to confirm that that is there. Now, my first
question is you know what they did if you look
at all the documentation, and there's plenty of documentation, all
the notes that the reviewer wrote, all the descriptions, everything,
a lot of this that's on there. It was public
for one hundred years, you know. As far as what
there was the shape of a coffin and it rolled
around it. It carries they believe it carries the Ten
Commandments and some other valuable things, and that if you
go near it, you know, you could be in trouble.
You know, like in the Raiders of the Lost doc
you know, right. So anyways, first they want to do
is ask does anyone know the reviewer himself? What did
they what was the charge to the reviewer?
Speaker 5: Yes, subject? And did to say what part of the
earth he thought it was?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, he said it's in the Middle East.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So when you when you're the CIA and you give
out the what's called the target, do you define the target? Well,
the exact description, you know, the exact thing.
Speaker 9: Because if they said to him, go find in the
Act of the Covenant, well, I know it's in the
Middle East, I know, you know all the different things that.
Speaker 7: It's down in the Well of Souls with nothing but
snakes down there, snakes.
Speaker 8: They will the target in an envelope, and so the
you know, the the best way to do it is
where the remote viewer doesn't know ahead of time what
it is, so it's not kind of being front loaded.
And they they, of course the military remote viewers would
uh uh. They were looking at various strategic targets, uh,
spy stuff, uh stuff that the Russians were up to,
right and uh, but once in a while they would
throw in kind of a straw man or call it
a red herring or whatever. I mean, they would they
would give coordinates on Mars and or a UFO uh
uh incident. And so they would and they would get
this information. But but but one of the famous ones,
like like Joe mcmonagall, who was a gifted psychic but
also a gifted remote viewer. Uh he's he would say
that if you, like, like Club was saying, if you
don't have the feedback, if you can't open up the
envelope and find the exact coordinates or go to that place, right,
it's it could be. They called it, what is it,
a O l uh automatic overlay. I think sometimes imagination
takes over when you're looking at these targets and you
come up with stuff that just simply isn't true.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, funny, that's great.
Speaker 9: So in this case, again in my opinion, this is
all hype. They never prove and that's why that was
in nineteen eighty eight. Okay, now they originally in two thousand,
twelve years later they had a declassification of it, but
we don't know how where that went and why it
took twenty five years after that. But first of all,
the hype about oh my god, they found it. No,
they didn't find it, and like I said, they didn't
prove it. My theory, though it is very concerning about
this whole thing, is first of all, the key player
in this whole thing with the after the Covenant is
right now, I'm not sure. I don't know if you're
aware of this, but there was a the Covenant made
by a very wealthy He financed it. A very wealthy
American billionaire financed the building of an exact replica based
on how it was described in the Jewish Torah. All right,
Now he did this three years ago, and now this
is timing, so I'm just giving you facts in there.
All right. His name is Lewis Tauper. He's a billionaire.
He owned Wendy's plus a million other things.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, he's.
Speaker 9: A major Trump contributor. He's an election denier and the
head of one of the Seniors, an American One, which
is a conservative organization. He was the financial head of
the project that actually built this ac replica. Okay, around
three years ago. It just so happened just before the election,
this replica was presented or was shown at my Lago
in Florence. Losing my lago. So that's where that was
on display. Okay, right, So anyways, so this is I
can see. I can smell it. Now, I can smell it.
I'm not making All I'm telling you is facts. People
can take what they want from.
Speaker 5: It, connecting the dots. I can see this now we
fell far.
Speaker 9: Problem is with this, that is the timing. Yeah, okay,
and I and I don't have any problem with the
purpose of it. The purpose of why he built this,
this Lewis Topa built the replica is because as the Jewish,
they believed that that was a very sacred thing that
could protect them and they have a strong feeling that
this is something that by building is going to help
them in the present war they're in. Actually feel, and
he's quoted on this, that this could be something that
could aid the Israelis, you know, religiously that even it
should be put out in the front of the troops,
even though it's a replica. So anyways, that's that's all
the facts, and so that's why the timing of this
doesn't smell right, all right, Yes, And now all of
a sudden we have the President of the United States,
who all of a sudden wants to clean out the
whole area over there, put up casinos. He wants to
bring truths to everything because he is very strong believer
in the you know, the the A of the Covenant.
Now I'm a believer, but I don't know for sure,
but I'm hoping that we really there really is an
a the Covenant and has all its.
Speaker 5: Power is a question, that's the thing exactly.
Speaker 9: But anyways, based on the fact that this thing was
on display in my lago and then all of these
things have happened since then, tells me that there's sort
of a connection with mister Choppler and things that are
going on in the world up there. So that's the
only thing that brought me. I didn't do this research
to look for that kind of thing. But when I
do research, I go from me to z right, and
all of a sudden, I'm saying, why the hell are
they making such a big deal out of this. It
was never proven. They got everyone all hyped up.
Speaker 7: I saw the headline and I fell for it, you know.
Speaker 9: And so this is my personal opinion. But those facts
I gave you the facts from various sources, and uh so, anyways,
that's why I wanted to bring this up and if
anyone else has any other comments.
Speaker 5: I'm going my comment is, my comment is I'm calling
bullshit out now. So Greg, this is the first time
you've heard any of this, right, Greg?
Speaker 4: That is correct?
Speaker 5: So what's it? How's it? How does it hit you?
Speaker 7: It seems on just.
Speaker 4: Kind of crazy, kind of convenient.
Speaker 14: And again I think it's just more of like you said.
Speaker 4: You kind of point it out.
Speaker 14: He just wants casinos out there because all he really
wants is greed. I don't think, yeah, the man in
charge has any.
Speaker 9: Kind of well, I don't even want it to be political,
just bringing out the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean it's
one of us several.
Speaker 9: After about ten minutes, what's going on here? And again
that's my own personal opinion, nothing to do.
Speaker 7: I think there's a good reason you have that opinion
to tell you the truth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So club, I'll tell you, I'll tell you
what please, I'm I'm going to be a remote viewer,
and I'm going to tell you that there is pirate
gold in the Caribbean. Yes, because I can see it
and I don't need any proof. But you know what,
I bet there's pirate gold there. That's exactly you know
what the whole thing was. Okay, where is it's in
the Middle East? Well, where else would it be? And
where in the Middle East? Well they're really thin on details.
Speaker 5: I can't see. Yeah, they're really hard on hype, but
very short on detail, right, you can see. I mean
these days now, the M s M feed is the
news feed is what I get and only just like
to get scores and stuff like that. But man, some
of the stories, some of the headlines do attract you,
you know what I mean, and then you want you
end up reading and say, oh man, it's this bullshit.
You know, I'm going to throw it to Kim now
because Kim has kind of a different story, right, this
is what is there a connection to this in the
in the pyramids?
Speaker 10: And you know, I think the connection is again with
people that believe in an ancient civilization that was technological
savvy and that this is just another example of that
technology that we seem to have forgotten about. Yeah that
I don't think we're going to go much into the
pyramid idea, mac or you want to stay onto this
ark of the coutany.
Speaker 5: So what do you think of it? The Kim yourns
of this stuff.
Speaker 10: Well, like I think you guys and I kind of
fall in the same idea that some of this remote
viewing was rather suscept to failure or maybe false claims.
But some of the stories that it was like what
Switchy was talking about there with McGonagall and Pat there,
I was kind of like under the idea that it
was how put off and Russell Tard were the guys
that kind of put the thirty. They had thirty people
that were remote viewing, and then they finally narrowed it down.
I guess to Pat Price and Ingo Swan who did
most of the viewing. And wasn't it Switchy Pat Price
the one that was told to go to the moon
and look around and whatever that was?
Speaker 8: Actually that was Ego Swan On Okay. He was approached
by some clandestine group that he presumed was from the
government and he remote viewed the far side of the
moon and saw bizarre stuff over.
Speaker 5: There, discotheqts and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: He saw people, he saw structors and so forth.
Speaker 5: But he was wrong, as it turns out, he was wrong.
Speaker 8: Now because no, no, I don't think so, I think
and uh. Nick Redford wrote a book on that, and
there was some follow up to that where he released
some more information and the implication was that he was
seeing Martians that were displaced from Mars to the Moon.
Maybe what's that.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's a penal collomys. I don't know, I know,
but these days there's there's a there's there's a first
of all, there's a Japanese satellite that goes around the
moon all the time and takes pictures of the far
side of the moon and so on, right, and it's
just like the side of the moon that you know,
we see and there's really no difference, and they would
see all these things. Now, so this this you know,
the guy he got it wrong. You know, he got
it wrong. But anyway, go ahead, Kim, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 10: That's kind of the story how it kind of goes down,
isn't it. I thought it was kind of funny though,
that Ingo Swan. I guess when he was like looking
around the moon switchy, when he was looking in the
window or whatever, these dudes that were doing something they
noticed him, and he was absolutely bewildered because he was like,
how are they seeing me? So he said the psychic
connection thing he was like kind of blowing away with that.
Speaker 2: Somehow they could see him.
Speaker 8: But that's when he broke off contact. And the facilitator there,
I forget, he called him mister Axelrod.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it said, you know, you've got to break this contact.
Speaker 5: Okay. So so but here's the thing too, is that
but we know that remote viewing in many cases that
actually works, because it did work for the CIA. They
kept it going for a while back in when we
were up at the old station. When the heck was
that at the beginning of last year, ten years ago. No, No,
we did a up at Exeter. We did a remote
viewing experiment with Al here. Al went up to the
Thirsty Moose and there were five people in the panel
and they came up with all these things triangles and
screens and and they all every five, all five of
them hit somehow and with their doctor with Simeon.
Speaker 8: Hin right, a remote viewer, and it's written books on
it over the years.
Speaker 5: Right, So it's it is possible. Maybe it's just that
I don't know, you don't get all the right ideas.
I'll just stay on Earth and don't go to the hole.
Speaker 7: Is there anybody doing a follow up investigation and whether
it's real or not.
Speaker 5: A good question.
Speaker 7: You think there'd be a Brazilian people out there saying,
oh yeah, yep, yes, let's go check it out and start,
you know, being their own tough.
Speaker 5: So someone would do a you know, just look into it.
The research really well, I think they've already done that,
and I think that they've kind of proven it and
that worked. It works spectacularly in some real instant, interesting cases,
but not all the time.
Speaker 8: Well, there was another remote viewer, doctor Stephen Schwartz, who
was on Coast to Coast AM some years ago with
George Norri, and George Norri said he would love the
remote viewers to check out the Noah's Ark, and Schwartz said, well,
that would be fine, except sometimes things that are held
sort of fixed in the collective consciousness, remote viewers might
focus on that it might not be accurate or whatever.
Doctor Simeon Hyde said said something very similar in his
first book called Opening Minds. So you know, it's not
necessarily giving you something real if people already have kind
of this fixed in the collective unconscious.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, funny, it doesn't work that way, right,
that's what they say. It doesn't work that way, right,
what's the super Bowl? It doesn't work that way anyway. Switchy,
I can remote view right now the train coming into
the station.
Speaker 8: Really all right, I'm looking. I don't think I see it, right,
I hear I hear something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, it's the chat you think it gets crash.
Speaker 5: There it is, okay, Okay. I want to thank I
guess tonight. First of all, saw with Greg Mascow. Thank
you Greg for joining us.
Speaker 7: Good show.
Speaker 14: Yeah, as always, as always, thank you for having me.
It's great to seeing you all again.
Speaker 5: And get this up to date.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: I do see now that they actually have actual like
chairs that you get in for VR. Right, you get
in a chair and everything is what you need right
there in front of you, and you can just stay
the whole time.
Speaker 7: Man, I can see you got if you go, you
got the money for that.
Speaker 4: That's the expensive said. Okay, all right, they have.
Speaker 5: A bathroom nearby. If they do, then I don't have
to move.
Speaker 8: I think a lot of people just want to go
on a date.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that. I'd be a little concerned there.
Speaker 6: Right back in the sixties they had those egg chairs.
Oh yeah, yeah, and you're pretty much encapsulated by it
and it had stereo speakers. Yeah yeah, foot rest that
you can feed up. You need like an egg chair
that's set up for the VR. And then but you're
ring the little environment, so you close the front and
then that sounds like so much fun. Yeah, inside with
you and go for broke. Maybe you can find a
date that way. Which, thank you Greg for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 5: We'll touch you very soll Yeah, take care, We'll say, Kim,
thank you, Kim, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: Kim Shay, I'm I'm not going anywhere, okay.
Speaker 8: So, so you wish.
Speaker 5: You went skiing? Right like a couple of weeks ago,
he sends me this video of it looks like a
trap a lot.
Speaker 2: We're going every week.
Speaker 10: We're going every week until the snow tells us we
can't go anymore. My friend Is is an absolute fanatic.
Speaker 2: So it's like, I'll go with you.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, yeah, So what do you where do you
drive down to?
Speaker 10: We go to Jasper always just because it's the closest
place and it's kind of one of it's just not busy,
it's a great hill the ski on and it just
because I've i've been skiing there since.
Speaker 2: I've been a little four.
Speaker 5: It's in Wyoming, right, No, No, it's an Alberta.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's the city last year that got burnt
really bad.
Speaker 5: Oh that wy Okay, yes.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's about a third of it got scorch. It's
kind of sad, but you know it'll come back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sure. Well I thought you were coming to
Wyoming and I can envision the day that, you know,
they wouldn't let you back or something.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've always wanted to go skiing down to the States.
Speaker 2: There's so much any great ski hills down there.
Speaker 5: Just yeah, thank you, Kim. We really appreciate it. We'll
talk to you soon, okay, buddy.
Speaker 2: Thanks you guys.
Speaker 4: It's awesome all right, Kim.
Speaker 5: Kim club. We'll see you soon. Club. Okay, yeah, my pleasure.
I'm going to predict we met a we met a
better off air. We were off here, right, Okay. There'll
be no Red Sox memorabilia in his background the whole season.
Speaker 9: I got a ton of it here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I mean. But you won't be in
the you won't put it.
Speaker 9: The Patriots right now, we're in the middle of Patriot time.
Anything else you can see it.
Speaker 5: Back here you go. That's right, Yes, thank you appreciate it, Switchy,
thank you, switch thanks hey, hey, my pleasure, right, and
thanks for keeping the show cat free. He gets, well,
thank you. We were origin show.
Speaker 4: I didn't say anything. I guess they didn't see her
so the show.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to squeal on Kim, but I did
see your cat's teal oh really before really yeah things.
Speaker 5: Oh you guys are proud, but.
Speaker 8: You just squealed on him just now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two hairballs for the show.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, it's like, what's wrong with she's fifteen
years young?
Speaker 8: Excellent?
Speaker 7: Half dead there fifteen exactly.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Switchy, thank you, al, thank you one one.
Speaker 7: You're welcome. Glad to be great pleasure.
Speaker 5: And let me do the plagues real quick. Homeshore Troops
Home Stot Troops is an organization that raises money from
our wounded veterans people who are wounded in combat after
nine to eleven, that's the Afghan War and the Iraqi War.
These are people who came home, many of them missing
on them, and Home Stow Troops builds them houses that
are more adaptable to their needs of ernest talking about
them thousands of times. Low economismates, not a lot of stairs.
And then when they finish the house, they rip up
the mortgage, give them the keys. That's their house forever.
They don't have that thing every month of paying the
mortgage hang over their heads. They can go rejoint society.
These are people who gave a lot to us for us,
we should give a lot to them. Ninety cents on
your dollar goes directly to our veterans. So please google them,
see what they're about. Home Strut troops, Homestrut troops. Also,
now more than ever, very important remember that John my
Cann was not a loser. He's a war hero. He's
a savile veteran too. And these are people that you
look up to. You don't make fun with them, and
I think it's really important to keep that in mind
going forward these days. So this is MAC for the
entire gang. Until you hear us again, Please be safe,
be happy, and bye bye