Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Challenge, the podcast all about the Challenge.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. My name is Brian, sitting uh in his
home hoping that xenomorph doesn't come through the window and
kill him. Sitting in her home, going what the fuck
is the xeno morph is?
Speaker 3: Lies?
Speaker 2: Don't be acting like you know stuff when you haven't
even watched Jaws.
Speaker 3: I have seen the alien movies.
Speaker 4: You know Jaws.
Speaker 3: No, I won't watch us.
Speaker 2: You're dumb and saying a word being like, what are
they fighting about? Is big uncle sweete?
Speaker 4: Big uncle sweetee? What's the xenomorph?
Speaker 5: It's it's when a girl from the twenty first century?
Speaker 3: What that's xenon? He gets he gets points for Xenon too.
Speaker 4: I don't get. I don't get any of that.
Speaker 3: Was a was a movie that came out from Disney
Xenon Girl of the twenty first Century. Yeah, it was
a Disney kids movie when Disney did the Disney Original movies.
Speaker 2: M Too old for that Ship were a series of books.
Tim doesn't read.
Speaker 4: I don't read. No, I'm not a good reader. I'm
way dumber than I seem. Actually I'm comfortable with that, now,
are you sure? Yeah? People think I'm smart. I'm really not.
I'm like, I'm real stupid. I can barely read.
Speaker 2: So that's all fucked up, everybody. Patreon, Hey Carlin, what
happened in this episode? All right?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, we start off this episode with Tanya telling Wes
that she wants to win the challenge today so badly
so that she can throw in Tina because the animosity
runs deep because she and Tina got into it a
few seasons ago and they do not like each other.
Speaker 4: We saw a flashback to Battle of the Season or
Battle of the Sexes too.
Speaker 3: I know what this is, before all of the plastic
surgery that everybody gets. But god, Tina and Tanya look
so different from just a few years prior to when
they do the way they do now, like in this episode.
Speaker 4: They're both smoke shoh wait. I was never super into Tina,
but this like this season not me, I'm super in
Like she's so hot.
Speaker 3: I just realized, when is this happening? Tim?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes? Oh man? This episode is this seven? This
is eight?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: Four episodes into doing this recording today and for getting
all of our parts.
Speaker 4: I don't have any idea what happens in episode eight?
I gotta ask chat GPT, but it's generating the response
right now, so we'll get it in a second. I'm
telling you this ship used to take me an hour
to like compile all these facts. Anymore, I guess not anymore. Yeah,
because listen, guys, we got to discuss this episode, but
we can't do it in twenty twenty five. We can't
possibly try.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work.
Speaker 4: No, this episode originally aired on July seventeenth, two thousand
and six, so we have to go back there. In
our top TV shows at the time, we've talked about
this American idol CSI, Miami, Dancing with the Stars, movies,
Pirates of the Caribbean, You, Me and Dupre It's a
forgotten one. You guys remember me and Me?
Speaker 2: You and Dupre own Wilson and Luke Wilson's names.
Speaker 4: Sounds familiar.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not watching that.
Speaker 4: What about little Man? That was the third third box
office smash this this week? Little Man? Not familiar with
little Man? It's away in bout this movie? Ay good
Times songs they're the same, except for World hold On
Children of the Sky by Bob Sinclair. What the fuck
is that? No dance song?
Speaker 2: Oh is that.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sing this? I think I do
know what that song is?
Speaker 4: Sing you can yep, we can't go until we know.
Speaker 3: Let's go have it still?
Speaker 4: Come on, Hey, I just won the argument. Come on,
let's go on, let's go, let's sing it on. I
need to know what's the song.
Speaker 3: As chat GPT, Wolfe, Zach do you know the song?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 2: Yo, my name is Bob Sinclair.
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: Everything is fair in challenge in war.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm satiated. All right, I'm good, ready to
move on.
Speaker 3: All right, So now that we are securely back in
two thousand and six, yeah, when I was in college
and Zach was in a cult, and Tim and Wolfie
were old men working real jobs.
Speaker 4: Selling cell phones, maybe in a shopping mall. I don't
know if that's a real job, but yes, all right.
Speaker 3: So we have already talked about how Tanya is pissed
off that she has been voted in, that she really
really really wants to win and thinks that she can
win in the challenge that the next day if she does,
she's throwing Teena's ass in and Wes is right there
with her, And then we see the text from TJ
and it says, now that we've been to Great Heights,
you better be pumped up for tomorrow's challenge, and we
get a cut away to Johnny. Johnny is, yeah, you know,
I think we've got a real chance to win today.
Like I think, I think we really we can do
it tomorrow. We can. We definitely take this thing. I'm
just so delusional.
Speaker 4: No they can't.
Speaker 5: I'll give him some credit. They did just come in
second place in the last challenge, so.
Speaker 3: The hanging from the rope one, No, they didn't. They
came in like fifth human first Tany, Tanya and Johnny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they won the last one.
Speaker 3: Dude, they didn't win the last challenge. They just got
voted in THEO and Shonda won the last challenge.
Speaker 4: You literally just this episode, but Johnny did really good
on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they got like fifth because Tanya. Yeah, because
even though Johnny sped across, they did not place in
the top three. Okay, m I paid attention to that
because I thought that, oh, maybe they would have done
well like during that episode, but they definitely did not.
So we also get. All I want to say is Lynette,
you and danger Girl. We get uh, Lynette and Tanya
are not Lynette and THEO. Danya. Lynette and THEO are
flirting and cuddling and laying in bed next to each other.
Speaker 4: Lynette's that Lynette loves fascist Yeah that's all I can think.
Loves pussy authoritarians.
Speaker 3: God, such a horrible human being. So we get we
get them.
Speaker 4: We only got her once.
Speaker 5: But Lynette like very underrated in terms of attractiveness.
Speaker 3: Very pretty, very pretty, very pretty, yes, very pretty. And
that accent, man, she got a nice accent.
Speaker 4: She is the There's just something about her that sort
of is like ordinary, like she just forgotten. Yes, Like
she's just in the background and we never see her
again ever in the whole challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like, this is the episode that she's
in the most. And then I other than I don't know,
maybe when they go home, if they go home, that'll
be the only time we actually pay attention to her.
But we also get some scenes from the next morning
where Kenny Evan and Big Easy are asking Lynette, so
what youre doing with our boy THEO over there, and
she does the quintessential line of like, oh, I you know.
They ask if if they've had sex yet, and not
so many words and she says, no, I want him
to respect me. And this is where this show really
does not hold up. And Kenny, sorry not Kenny Evan,
just the one of the worst takes you can never
possibly have. He says, she wants him to respect her,
that's why she's not putting out. How much was in fact,
you need to have before you take it to the
next level. And of course he's saying all this with
the smug like, Oh, that's stupid, bitch. Why is she
not putting out like he She should put out for
this guy because she just should, like he deserves it.
Pissed me off.
Speaker 4: You think that's what that's that's what he was implying
with that.
Speaker 6: You think, oh, one hundred percent you don't think that, Uh, Tim,
Come on.
Speaker 4: Well, I think so. It's not that I disagree. I
think what his point was that like, it's not that serious,
just like if like you don't have to like make
it a big deal. It's not that serious.
Speaker 3: Having sex can be entire it can be totally serious.
You guys don't have the chance of getting pregnant. We do.
It is one hundred percent serious. Fuck anyone for saying
that it's not.
Speaker 5: He's like thinking you're hot, she's you know, why not
just get together like it's not a big deal, like.
Speaker 3: Zach that was again for guys, it's not you are
the ones who have the chance of getting pregnant.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, Carl, I'm not disagreeing. I'm not disagree with you, obviously,
like obviously like you're right. My point is I don't think.
I don't think Evan was being like what he said
wasn't wasn't right, and.
Speaker 3: They were pulling the ways that they were presenting this.
He absolutely meant it that way.
Speaker 4: Did you really hear that?
Speaker 3: Yes, go back and watch it.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: In Evans defense, let that set for a second. She
said she didn't sleep with him. She didn't sleep with
him because she wanted him to respect her. Yeah, which
is the dumbest thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It is the dumbest Even.
Speaker 2: If she doesn't sleep with him, there's no way he
respects her at all.
Speaker 3: I am not denying that.
Speaker 2: There's no way that like, oh, there's a girl on
this reality show I was on that I probably will
never see again. Yeah, it's a good thing we cuddled
and didn't have sex because I respect her. Now, he's
just like that dumb bitch didn't give it up. Fuck her,
and that's about his level of respect for her.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh no, I am.
Speaker 2: Is responding to that being like, you're dumb, You're very
dumb and naive. She was just like, Hey, I don't
think people, I'm not going to sleep with anybody while
we're doing the show. I would rather do that off camera.
Speaker 5: I think we'll be bringing up a good because yeah,
how many times are guys like thinking back on girls
from their pasts, being like, she never gave it up
to me.
Speaker 3: I really respect it. Yeah, I just disliked this whole
whole exchange.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I did too, And there there there is
sexist undercurrents, especially the way that they sold it and
the way they kept coming back to it sort of.
But I do wonder if he had a different take
on it, And I wonder if I think that's it
will see, is that like, this is not a big
This is not as big a deal as you're emphasizing
it to be. It's it can be flippant, it can
be just sort of like just go fuck just who cares,
you're both cute, just go do it.
Speaker 3: But again, it's not always just a flippant thing like emotions,
especially when you're stuck in a house for weeks on issues.
Speaker 4: She's not talking emotions, she's not talking emotions respect, she's
talking future relationship.
Speaker 3: But you're saying it can be this flippant thing. You're
you're making the argument that it can be a flippant thing,
that he's thinking that it can be a flippant thing,
and it honestly, I mean, have you seen the reactions
of so many of the other specifically women in these shows.
They have sex with someone and then immediately fly off
the fucking rails because they go the guy then does
something like sleeping with someone, thinking that it was some
flippant thing, and then literally within the next half an episode,
they flip the fuck out on him because he's no
longer paying attention to them.
Speaker 5: I've seen clips online that apparently sometimes THEO does like
things on this podcast where people could call him and
ask him questions. So next time I'll call him and
ask him, like, how did Lynnette's lastly movie impact your day?
Speaker 2: Respect for her?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's where it feels like Lynette feels
as dishonest, but that approach feels dishonest too, of just
like sort of like he's not going to respect me
if I sleep with him, which like that's not really
what we're talking about. Yeah, she should just say like, hey,
I'm not going to sleep with a dude I don't
know him yet, Like that's not who I am. I
would respect that.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 4: I would appreciate that more than like this respect thing.
Speaker 3: But that's the other thing is like during that during
that time, saying that I want him to respect me. There,
that was the buzzword, the the easy way to get
around it, because it's hard to say that I don't
want to sleep with someone because we're on TV, or
I don't want to sleep with someone because we're in
the show, or like it's hard to say those things,
and that was an easy like every body understands what
she's saying. She's I don't know it.
Speaker 4: Just women, maybe women do. I didn't understand it. I didn't.
I mean, that's why we're talking about her. I didn't
get it. Respect.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I get that it sounds stupid because it does. It
sounds really fucking stupid for her to say that, But
at the same time, that was one of the easy
things to say. It gets said a lot at that point.
In time in you know, two thousand and six. Like,
I don't know, it just it made sense to me
as to why she said that. It kind of stops
the conversation there. I don't know, it's just it made sense.
I think it made sense. But regardless, I did not
like the whole the whole exchange.
Speaker 2: Just laughing at her.
Speaker 3: She did sound like an idiot. I'm not denying that
she did sound like an idiot, because she's also saying
this that Kenny, Evan and Big.
Speaker 4: Easy like yeah, super yah, super yes.
Speaker 3: Kenny and Evan specifically like of course they're going to
sit there and be like, oh you you're just you're dumb.
You should have totally put out Yeah whatever, there's a
reason why they're no longer allowed on the challenge.
Speaker 4: So, uh, we know the is no, THEO is a
fucking garbage person.
Speaker 3: Not denying that, never deny that. So moving on from
that whole thing, I just yeah, Tanya yet again, it's
super confident saying she's gonna win, and Casey as they're
packing up, Casey kind of points out, Hey, Tanya and
Johnny seem to have packed a lot of shit. Even
Tanya makes it. It makes some comment, I brought so
much stuff and then we're onto the challenge. Uh, mister bananas,
do you want to explain what this challenge was?
Speaker 5: They were in kayaks, yes, so they had to like
race out and like inflate a kayak with a pump.
And then once they got it and played to the
level they wanted, like row out, grab flags from the lake,
then come back, deflate their raft and like put it
back in the bag.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: The kind of the caveat to that was that when
they are racing across the river, all arms and legs
have to be inside the kayak. If they are outside
the kayak at any point in time, then you have
to start the whole paddle over again. And the winners,
this is probably the best prize that we've seen so far.
The winners get an eight day trip for two to
Costa Rica.
Speaker 4: That is a great prize, faller prize. They don't act
like they care that much. It's weird. This is the
best price so that they're just.
Speaker 3: So excited about a year of Netflix.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh, great, Costa Rica. Cool, that's a kidding.
That's all you get.
Speaker 2: You can Costa Rica for days.
Speaker 5: Our winners they're pretty excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still just like guys, like you're about
you're competing for an eight day like expenses paid trip, Like,
come on, well.
Speaker 4: It's not a Razor scooter, my Gizmando.
Speaker 3: It's not a year of T mobile service or Netflix. Yeah. So,
Shane and Lennett, they are one of the first teams
to go. They are the only team to fill their
kayak up all the way, which seems like it should
be a thing, but at the same time, I also
kind of felt like it might slow them down. Would
you guys think, yeah, would you think of any of
the different strategies that people had.
Speaker 4: I love the strategies that people take. I think that's
it's smarter to not inflate so much like faster, but
obviously like they didn't inflict quite enough. There's like a
balance in the middle somewhere. But you know, ultimately it's
whoever won it did the best thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing that people like big easy size. So
I would need like a good, good, like fully inflated
kayak for me.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're paired with Katie, you may
not need a fully inflated kayak because Katie is very little.
But I mean, when Katy's easier out there, Big Easy's
laying down like he's taking a nap.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you gotta do that math right when that
math is impossible to do and you haven't done it,
but it's it's sort of is like, spend three more
minutes pumping up this fucking kayak or spend three minutes
flailing around like an idiot out on the water. Yep,
you got to make that decision at run time. And yeah,
people make the right and the wrong ones.
Speaker 3: Zach, What did you think of the various different strategies
of blowing things up? Hum?
Speaker 5: I mean I definitely think, yeah, if you just need
to get you know, a decent amount to keep you afloat.
But the strategy I really did love during this though,
was once Wes in Casey you know, did not work
for them, but they were just like, we know we're
going in. We're not gonna waste any more energy trying
to yeah, you know, finish smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those times that I completely
agreed with quitting totally.
Speaker 4: I never I almost never agree with quitting. But yes,
they they they've lost this and there's no real benefit
other than maybe a trip to Costa Rica. But they
can't win it. They're not gonna they know that they
can win it. Yeah, so it's just so like a
fuck it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agreed with that. Yeah, so Wes and
Casey because Wes has his foot out of the kayak
for most of their row across the river and they
get told that they have to do the paddle over
again and they just say, fuck it, We're gonna pull
off to the side and just DQ.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of different Like some people are
blowing it up all the way or almost all the way,
others are doing it just barely. But all it seems
like for everybody the biggest issue is deflating their kayak
and getting it back into the bag. That just seems
to take everybody a long time. M But ultimately, uh,
we have Shane and Lynnette with blowing it up all
the way. Who did the best They ended up winning.
Speaker 4: Yep. The question though, right like is it worth it
to spend some extra time pumping up that thing? And like,
yeah it is. They should have done the probably yep.
Speaker 3: Shane chalks it up to if you have a happy partner,
then you're going to have a good partner. So Lynette,
keep doing what you're doing with THEO if it makes
you happy. I mean, good, good honor. I did. I
forgot to mention I made note of two funny ones. Uh,
Tina got in the kayak backwards from Kenny, so she
Kenny was facing the correct way and Tina went the
entire way backwards. And then Tanya and Johnny they somehow
paddled themselves like straight up into bushes rather than across
in to get their flag.
Speaker 4: It's funny how messy these assholes are on these kayaks
like they're and you know, I would probably not be
any better, but it's so fun to laugh at them
when they're just like spitting around like dipshits, not knowing
how to do it.
Speaker 3: Honestly, how could this be?
Speaker 4: Just go?
Speaker 3: Kayaks and canoes seem to fuck everybody up regardless of
the season that they're in. It always causes problems and
it's so fucking funny every time. Yes, so now we
are onto exile because Wes and Casey and Tanya and
Johnny did not win.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: So exile is a game where it's a race. There
is a start in a finish with two checkpoints in
between both checkpoints are optional. If you do them and
you get them right, you get a reward. It could
be anything from dropping the weight you're carrying to getting
time off of your total amount. Both teams have to
carry bags that weigh the same amount as their luggage,
and they also have to collect flags at both checkpoints
in order to cross the finish line and win. Now,
Wes and Casey have done this a few times. They
have one hundred and thirteen pounds between the two of them.
Do any of you remember what Tanya and Johnny have?
Speaker 2: I don't weight m h.
Speaker 3: Anyone want to take a guess?
Speaker 4: What was the other weight?
Speaker 3: So, Wes and Casey, you're a one hundred and thirteen.
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 5: Theirs was about two hundred and fifty ish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4: Pounds Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Johnny brought one hundred and six and Tanya's brought one
hundred and forty seven. Tanya brought basically the same weight
as her body weight to this challenge. How do you
bring one hundred and forty seven pounds of stuff?
Speaker 4: It's a lot of stuff, man like, especially like she's
wearing lingerie. That's not like, that's not that's not hardly anything.
Speaker 3: And they were in Australia, like bring shorts and t shirts.
Speaker 2: Like Tina says her makeup alone was probably seventy five pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's Tina just being an asshole. But who knows. Yeah,
it's when I saw that, I I gasped two hundred
and fifty three pounds between the two one hundred and
forty seven.
Speaker 4: Pounds, Like that's done right away to fifty three that's yeah,
that's yeah, Like Tanya can't carry one hundred and forty
seven like insane, insane.
Speaker 3: It blows my mind.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this. I don't want to exhaust the
I don't want to exhaust the conversation. But do you
guys really think that that it's fair that it comes
down to this, to the weight of the luggage that
they decided on when they were home and packing. Yeah,
that's a fair thing to you.
Speaker 5: I think it's fair, But I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: They're still in their carnival game mode. It's not this
is not a fully athletic it is the better athlete
style of competition.
Speaker 4: No, I know, it just feels weird. This feels weird.
Speaker 3: I mean, we have Evelyn who brought twenty six pounds
in comparison to Tanya who brought one hundred and forty seven.
Speaker 4: Is the game?
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it?
Speaker 4: Why again, because it's not part of the game.
Speaker 3: I have said this multiple times. This game is not fair.
It never has been, it never will be. This is
just one of those weird quirks and it's fucking funny.
Is honestly the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: It is so many it is to.
Speaker 3: Sit there and watch Tanya try or my very next
note is Johnny is completely flabbergasted that Casey picks up
these bags and just takes off running.
Speaker 4: Gives up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not very different in size, and Casey picks
up and goes and it's it's just fucking hysterical.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just think it's very weird. I just think
it's very weird. Of just like, sorry, Tony, you lose
this because you like other shit than Casey likes you know,
like you. I mean, they all and stuff.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing. I'm assuming that they were all
given the same brief of you are going to a
warm climate for potentially x number of weeks. Bring clothing
that you can go I mean, they're doing fitness competitions.
They're going out a few nights and they're having like
you know, parties and whatnot. But really it's you're there
to do a fitness competition for nine ten weeks. So
bring sports bras and underwear, socks, tennis shoes, some athletic gear,
a bunch of swimsuits because we all know that they're
gonna there's gonna be a swimming pool there. You know,
two or three things to go out with, or bring
two pairs of going out shoes, a few cute outfits.
Speaker 4: That you can get it interesting, I get it. But
let's in this case, MTV said like, hey, here's the game.
We're gonna be doing this, but like take whatever you want,
like icking, throw whatever you want in the bag, take
it out. Who cares? That's about? That feels weird. It
just feels weird.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe MTV like gave them a little hint. Maybe they're like, hey,
you know, like don't pack more than you like. Maybe
they just give him a casual little thing that we
don't know about.
Speaker 4: They should tell us then, because that would be sort
of like, oh, the game started before they left, and
I would like that. This is weird. This feels weird.
Speaker 2: Way you're a challenger, you're always playing.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean I you get a bad near uniform.
You never have to get ready?
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, No, I have no I have no solid
legal standing and I would lose in a court of
law every time. But believe me, it's just a weird
feeling I get inside, which just like that's decides like
they got kicked off because they both packed too much.
Like that's weird. That's a fucking weird thing, isn't it?
Like they lost this because they packed too much before
they fucking went to the game.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's funny, like it ultimately, I
think that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 5: If neither team had weight, You think that Johnny and
Hanya win?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Really really with no weight? With no weight? Yes,
I do. I do. I think that I think that
both Johnny and Tanya could beat Casey in a race.
I do because these like when it's a team theme,
it's it's just like whoever's the weakest is going to lose, right,
Casey's the weakest.
Speaker 2: This is like Casey's like seventh time running this course
with weight. I think she has no weight. She's gonna do.
Speaker 4: Worse then Johnny and Tanya.
Speaker 3: I think that Johnny and Tanya, Yeah, I think they'll
be I think they'll beat I think they'll beat her.
Speaker 4: I think they'll beat her.
Speaker 3: I don't I think that they'll beat her. Affair top
at the check.
Speaker 4: Fair race, they're gonna beat They're gonna beat Casey a
fair race. They're gonna beat Casey. Well, we'll never see it.
Just we'll never see this, Zach. So we can both
be totally sure in our positions and neither be proven
wrong ever, So we can both just do that. Then, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like, alright, low stakes, bet.
Speaker 3: Let's let's move on.
Speaker 4: I think twenty years ago this hypothetical would have never happened. Zach.
What do you think about this twenty year old hypothetical?
Speaker 5: We did say that Tanya has put to all So
if we get Casey there where we can find out.
Speaker 4: All right, let's see it. I'm ready to see it,
and I'll admit that I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: So we have checkpoint one, Casey.
Speaker 2: Smoking up a storm the night before Wolf.
Speaker 4: He has strong opinions on this hypothetical that will never happen.
Speaker 3: Ye, so checkpoint one Casey and West of course, grab
their flag and they are gone. They do not stop.
They don't even look at the question. They just run.
Tanya and Johnny they stop. The The puzzle is it's
three by three squares made of sticks, and the it
says remove six sticks to leave five squares and you
only get one chance. Did any of you posit to
see what the what you do?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't care about this one.
Speaker 3: But really it's if you if you've just because I
had to posit to write down the question. So you've
got three by three and they've got squares or sticks
through all of it. You take out four to make
one giant square, and then you've got five little squares
around the edge, and you take out the two in
the corner. So it's two little squares, two little squares,
and one big square.
Speaker 2: So so this became a big contention between Johnny and
Tanya and the producers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Johnny pulls six sticks and he leaves five square,
but he also leaves two incomplete squares. And even though
it does not explicitly say that you have to leave
only squares. You cannot leave anything incomplete. That's kind of
the general understanding, at least that's how I assumed it
was going to be. Uh, Johnny's pissed because the producer
tells him, Nope, that's not right. You have two incomplete squares.
What the hell do you mean? He's are one, two, three, four, five,
there are five squares. So and then he's the only
time in the direction of the PA like, thanks for duck.
Speaker 4: And I didn't like this from Johnny, and I like,
I've liked Johnny until this point. This is insane, This
is nuts, Like this was well above what this situation warranted.
Speaker 3: He did not need to get heated. Yeah, I agree
with that. So they're they're complaining throughout all of this
about how much weight they have to carry it, because
Tanya at one point in times is it's literally my
body weight, because she probably does play one hundred and
forty seven pounds or somewhere around that. So I'm not
surprised by that at all. Check point two, again, Casey
and Wes grab it and just go, and Tanya and
Johnny are still there when Wes and Casey across the
finish line. So they don't even make it to the end.
Speaker 4: There's some editing shenanigans that make this. I think they're
trying to make this look closer than it was, but
it still does not look very close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does not look close at all. Yeah, So
Wes and Casey when who they're going back to the house.
Wes has some talking head because in this entire race,
he did a very good job for what he is
in not yelling at Casey. And he says at the
end that he has to baby Casey or she gets
really sensitive of just being a nice human being, Like, really,
you have to baby her rather than scream obscenities at her.
Speaker 4: I have to be nice to people that are so
fucking retarded.
Speaker 3: It's just such a jackass. In this season, he's.
Speaker 4: In two thousand and six Language of guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still Yeah, we've got we're back in the house.
Everybody's amazed that Wes and Casey comeback. We've got more
scenes of Lynette and THEO. She says that she is
the Oh yeah, run girl, run.
Speaker 4: Aren't Authoritarian's great? Isn't it great when you can't decide
your own opinions on things?
Speaker 3: Yep, but that's the episode.
Speaker 2: It's interesting how later on we would learn that Wes
has a really good elimination record. I think a lot
of it comes from this season because she is christ It.
Speaker 5: Really he's drops five hundred player on eliminations.
Speaker 3: I could see that. I mean, he's got right now,
they're at four eliminations that they've won.
Speaker 4: Yep. But Zach, wait, hang on, so well, you're not
in this conversation. Who is watching this live at the time? Though, Carlin,
were you were?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 4: You were? You were watching this live?
Speaker 2: Zach?
Speaker 4: I knew you were. Of course you were.
Speaker 3: I think I was. I either came in this season
or like this season right after it, but I was
watching it close to this timing.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was one thousand percent rooting for Wes. As
you're watching this week to week, West comes in, you know,
in the dominant alliance in Austin, he's humbled and now
he's all on his own, but he's won four eliminations.
I'm rooting for Wes. I'm absolutely team Wes one thousand
percent right now. I'm for him and him alone. If
I'm back in two thousand and six, in my mind, Zach,
were you?
Speaker 5: I think I was because I was a big fan
of the groopy drawer.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. I do remember that that was an Austin
real world thing.
Speaker 5: Yes, in the real world, Austin uh Me and Maiah
and Westman thing that they called the groopy drawer where
every time they'd go out, they'd get girls phone numbers
out piece of paper and they put in this drawer,
and then every night they would both open the drawer
like reach in looking pull out of random name and
phone number, and they're like, this is what I'm gonna call.
I'm gonna get them to the house tonight. I'm gonna
sleep with them.
Speaker 3: I do not remember that.
Speaker 4: I definitely remember that Zach for sure. I knew this.
I knew that Wes was an asshole right now, but
I was still rooting for him. I like the underdog thing.
I like the fighting from a bottom position, And even
though we can look back now as west being a dick,
I was definitely rooting for him. I think I was too. Yeah,
and I think I think I am in the rewatch too.
No nobody else.
Speaker 5: If I have a rooting interest just because I like
I know how it all plays out, so I'm like,
of course root for anyone because I kind of know
what he.
Speaker 4: Still can you can, Zach, I give you permission, you
can have a favorite.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm that well for in the moment, then Wes.
If we're like in twenty twenty five Kenny and Evan.
Speaker 4: God, what is Sophie's choice?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 4: Right? The fucking sexual assaulters are the asshole?
Speaker 3: I wasn't. Yeah, you're picking. I don't. I wouldn't say
I'm rooting for Wes. I would say I'm rooting for
Casey because he can't win this without her. And I mean, yeah,
even though we know how this all goes like, and.
Speaker 4: Wes is not a convicted sexual assault.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: I guess you know. I could say I'm rooting for
a viv because you know, hindsight being twenty twenty, I
know she's in a Banana's Angel.
Speaker 4: Now so and wins loves Zach loves rooting for winners.
Week sauce, sack, It's week sauce.
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks everybody. Zach. What happened in the post
credits scene?
Speaker 5: All right, so we're outside late in the evening. It's
in the backyard and we see THEO and Kenny standing
about five feet from each other, both peing out in
the backyard side by side, and uh then know where.
Kenny looks at me and goes, I hope your dick
catches on fire. Theo's like, man, that'd be awesome. We
would love that I'd have fire dick. And then the
was like, Kenny, I hope a bear eats you. And
he was like, yeah, well, I hope a wanmbad eats you.
Speaker 3: And he's like.
Speaker 5: And then Eric just comes running out of nowhere and
just shoves both of them from behind while they're being
love them.
Speaker 4: I love those public peas in my in my twenties,
good time.
Speaker 3: That's the that's the scene.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's yep. Then just peing and arguing and then
you know, push them over mid p.
Speaker 4: Corolin, Are you ever sad that you don't get to
have like those pee moments with your friends like that?
Half the time?
Speaker 3: The moments I'm sad that I don't get to stand
up and pee because there are times where having to
sit down and pee really fucking sucks.
Speaker 5: I bet, technically because they always go to the bathroom
in pairs.
Speaker 2: Technically, Carl, and if you are a more hardcore you
could stand up.
Speaker 3: I mean I have used Yeah, I could anytime I
want it. I just don't feel like having pee all
down my legs.
Speaker 4: They make like little apparatuses, right, they make little penises
for that, KNT.
Speaker 3: I have those. I don't. It's definitely not.
Speaker 4: Called it's called a dildo.
Speaker 3: Pee with a dildo.
Speaker 4: Maybe you don't, That's how I pa.
Speaker 2: This is almost cross everybody.
Speaker 4: I've had too much to drink, guys, we've got too
more you just wait continue.
Speaker 3: Zactly Bananas, Big Uncle, Sweet Tea.
Speaker 2: And as Uh Tanya probably said, I'm really good at
challenges and I hope I never get sexually assaulted someday.
Speaker 4: They got weird, said