Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday, and Thursday
Speaker 1: is where we talk about Bravo and pop culture and
Speaker 1: what's going on. And I've got my friend here, Brian Moyland,
Speaker 1: also known as Dame Brian Moyland, as self professed Dame.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 4: I gotta say I'm a little sad today because we
Speaker 4: just got the news that they put Ladies of London
Speaker 4: on pause.
Speaker 3: Brian. I saw that and I was like, what in
Speaker 3: my mind blown?
Speaker 1: It was so good and one of the best show's
Speaker 1: Bravo is put out in forever.
Speaker 4: And I don't understand it, especially because you know, it
Speaker 4: probably has to do with the ratings and the economics,
Speaker 4: as always does.
Speaker 2: But see, they've.
Speaker 4: Given Southern Hospital so many you know, I mean exactly,
Speaker 4: so many chances. This is the one show that we
Speaker 4: all loved so and you know, I live in London
Speaker 4: and so I got a chance to spend I went
Speaker 4: out to tea with all of the cast except for
Speaker 4: Margot who was in California. And I've never been around
Speaker 4: a cast of reality show where they all got along.
Speaker 4: They were all having fun with each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but still like it was.
Speaker 4: Just such a great group, and so I'm really sad
Speaker 4: for my hometown gals.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like between that and Miami, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's going on, who's in charge over there?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 4: Agree Like Miami, I can kind of understand because I'm
Speaker 4: sure they were paying some of those ladies a fair
Speaker 4: amount of money, and so you know it had.
Speaker 2: To be expensive, but these were all kind of reality
Speaker 2: TV newbies.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine they were paying them that much. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much those kids out of their house
Speaker 2: and Towny's still make.
Speaker 4: This TJ gets a check for like fifty three dollars,
Speaker 4: It's like, I'll do it, sign me up for another season.
Speaker 1: Well, our joke on all our TLC and we TV
Speaker 1: shows that we cover all of our Matt Shart productions
Speaker 1: that we cover our jokes that they give him a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars Amazon card, and they're like, I'm in yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, Yeah, sure I'll do it.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes like a random like crackhead sister will
Speaker 1: come over and they'll be like, oh, they gave her
Speaker 1: twelve dollars to Walmart. They didn't like I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My sister found out there was free Popeyes, so
Speaker 2: she came over.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, but I am so upset about it
Speaker 1: because I thought because especially because they all they were
Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live, and Andy really loved them.
Speaker 1: To understand, he's not in charge of programming. I understand
Speaker 1: all that, but it just seems like it had such
Speaker 1: a great buzz from the whole Bravo community that I
Speaker 1: really released. And then they said they're putting their eggs
Speaker 1: in the basket of Real Real Households of London. I go,
Speaker 1: isn't that only like only a British thing, Like We're
Speaker 1: not getting that.
Speaker 2: So it's confusing, it seems.
Speaker 4: I've seen reports that it's officially coming to Bravo at
Speaker 4: the end of July, but Bravo hasn't. Bravo hasn't confirmed
Speaker 4: that yet. But season one is already done. They've already
Speaker 4: filmed season two of Real Houses of London and so
Speaker 4: and so that will probably start airing, I assume in
Speaker 4: the fall. So they'll have like two seasons back to back.
Speaker 4: And the first season was.
Speaker 2: Good, but I'm gonna say not as good as Ladies
Speaker 2: of London.
Speaker 1: The people, the people Ladies of London, I mean, the
Speaker 1: cast of characters, and the the long history of these
Speaker 1: women and like women with stories, you know, yes, and
Speaker 1: Mark Francis of course in history also people kind of
Speaker 1: love him or hayt him, but his story to me
Speaker 1: also fascinating.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, and I think it was great because you see,
Speaker 4: they have really they've known each other for a really
Speaker 4: long time, which is something you didn't really get on
Speaker 4: Real Houses of London.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, but here's hoping.
Speaker 4: I had heard that they were going after Kimmy and
Speaker 4: some of the others for Real Housewives of London. Maybe
Speaker 4: now that Ladies of London is on pause, we might
Speaker 4: see them show up on a different.
Speaker 3: Break all of them them.
Speaker 4: Them, Yeah, exactly, just get rid of you know, half
Speaker 4: of them, and you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple I could Micah and Margot
Speaker 1: I could do without. Yeah, Margo I liked because she
Speaker 1: was a kind of a shit star. And Micah I
Speaker 1: liked just because she was just so weird, you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think that she she would have done
Speaker 4: better a second season when she was with she knew
Speaker 4: everybody a bit more, you know what. I mean, it
Speaker 4: seems like she had one friend and that one friend
Speaker 4: very disastrously left at the beginning, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think she was a little like unmoored. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so I'm sad for Ladies of London.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me that yesterday and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. And then yesterday it was sort
Speaker 1: of all over and I did, like, you know, all
Speaker 1: the Instagram posts people were posting and I was writing
Speaker 1: under it, and you could see like Mica was in
Speaker 1: the comments and like people were in some of the
Speaker 1: cast is in the comments, like thank you so much
Speaker 1: for supporting our show, and you know, yeah, I'm still
Speaker 1: hoping Family Karmel comes back. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how long I've been waiting on that, but I mean
Speaker 1: love that show.
Speaker 4: We thought Miami was dead in the water, and that
Speaker 4: came raring back after a while, so I mean, and
Speaker 4: Ladies of London, you know, they had shelved for a
Speaker 4: while before they brought it back.
Speaker 2: So you know, I do have trust.
Speaker 4: In Bravo that they always deliver a great product, even
Speaker 4: if it's not something we always watch or always want, so.
Speaker 3: Not a product we want, but it's still great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean it's good, you know that, Like
Speaker 4: girlfriends in parishow was good. I was like, I don't
Speaker 4: I'm cool, I don't need this, but yeah, so I
Speaker 4: have faith in them. But yeah, it is a little sad.
Speaker 1: It's a bummer. It's a total bummer. Well, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the real house. I was a Rhode Island Reunion
Speaker 1: part one, so I watched it when it was on,
Speaker 1: and then I watched it again to get ready for
Speaker 1: this and kind of actually sort of focused in, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of just sort of half watching it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so much happened that I did not catch the first
Speaker 1: time because obviously I was like playing words with friends
Speaker 1: on my phone or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: So now I can't wait to like actually discuss it.
Speaker 1: So the first thing that we get that was of
Speaker 1: note to me was this rumor about a long time
Speaker 1: ago or two years ago or yesterday unclear, Rosie was
Speaker 1: in the car with some back they can said the
Speaker 1: basketball coach. Now we believe this is like the University
Speaker 1: of Rhode Island basketball coach.
Speaker 4: So Dave Portnoy, who keeps haunting Bravo proceedings against our will.
Speaker 1: Stick at sports Dave port Noy, get out of here, thank.
Speaker 4: You, thank you.
Speaker 2: We don't want you here.
Speaker 4: Dave gone, Dave port NOI has identified who the coach is, ok,
Speaker 4: and he yes, he was a college basketball coach in
Speaker 4: Rhode Island for a long time and then he left
Speaker 4: for kind of mysterious reasons to go to another school.
Speaker 4: And that was around the same time that Rosie went
Speaker 4: off the air at NBC ten, And so I think
Speaker 4: people were saying that those two things were related, like
Speaker 4: that he got caught having an affair, and so he
Speaker 4: went to this other school because his daughter was attending
Speaker 4: that school, and so he's saying, Oh, I need to
Speaker 4: spend more time with my family, repair things for my family.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: So however, the same basketball coach then got in trouble
Speaker 4: for losing a game and he got upset and he
Speaker 4: threw a water bottle and it hit a kid like
Speaker 4: in the stands and injured him. And so yeah, and
Speaker 4: I will say he is not an attractive fellow. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so you know, if you want to do a little googling.
Speaker 3: I am into Yes, it's.
Speaker 4: Easy to find, but I believe Rosie like that. It
Speaker 4: doesn't seem likely and why would she well, I mean,
Speaker 4: why would she cop to an affair with a married man?
Speaker 4: Of course, but also it does seem crazy, but.
Speaker 1: They just like very Joellen says, with full authority, you
Speaker 1: were you were in the police report. You were in
Speaker 1: the police report. She's like, no, I wasn't. I never
Speaker 1: even met this man. Like what right, Well, those are
Speaker 1: two very opposite things. You never met him, or you
Speaker 1: were in the car when you got a dui Like,
Speaker 1: those are two very opposite things.
Speaker 4: But also Joellen says, Rosie says, have you seen the
Speaker 4: police report? She's like no, but the policeman told me
Speaker 4: that you know you were in it, so it's like okay.
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Speaker 4: This is something I hate about reunions. Is well well
Speaker 4: this whole storyline I kind of hated for a few reasons. One,
Speaker 4: Kelsey keeps bringing these things up against Rosie, never to
Speaker 4: her face on the show, always in confessionals. This is
Speaker 4: the first time it comes up to our face that
Speaker 4: Rosie gets to defend herself, and they have this like
Speaker 4: weak information. And it's the thing about a reality show
Speaker 4: is we need to see it, Like we saw that
Speaker 4: fight between Rosie and Kelsey where Rosie calls her a slampig.
Speaker 4: We can decide who was right and who was wrong
Speaker 4: and who side we were on based on the evidence
Speaker 4: as it was presented to us.
Speaker 2: This evidence we have.
Speaker 4: Not seen, we have we have no reason to judge
Speaker 4: whether or not it's true. So you just end up
Speaker 4: deciding which of the women you like best and that's
Speaker 4: who you believe. And so my case, as much as
Speaker 4: I love Joe Ellen, I'm believing Rosie on this one
Speaker 4: that she like never met this guy and that they're
Speaker 4: just making this shit because how many times have we
Speaker 4: heard every housewife is always cheating with somebody, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yes, this seems like low, but also I was
Speaker 1: trying to think, like if it was like literally the
Speaker 1: university of Rhode Island basketball coach.
Speaker 3: And they're a really good team.
Speaker 1: And then like maybe sometimes stuff does kind of get
Speaker 1: lost or hidden because they want to keep this coach,
Speaker 1: so they don't want it to look back, you know.
Speaker 3: When that happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of think like.
Speaker 1: All right, well that could be true, but there's no screenshots,
Speaker 1: proof for seats, timelines. We we got nothing. We just
Speaker 1: got a friend of a friend of a cop of
Speaker 1: mine told me they saw your name in the police report,
Speaker 1: right yeah.
Speaker 4: And also, you know, Rosie said, and when I read
Speaker 4: some things about this original affair, it was that it
Speaker 4: was a reporter, and she says it was a student reporter.
Speaker 4: But it's not like Rosie was a sports reporter who
Speaker 4: would have been like on the sidelines to meet this guy.
Speaker 4: She was like a traffic girl. She never left the studio.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I's a small place. She
Speaker 4: might have just run into him at a bar, but
Speaker 4: it's not like they were in the same orbit, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think I'm gonna go with you.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna believe Rosie on this one because
Speaker 1: I'm good and I also want to things I want
Speaker 1: to mention that I noticed about the reading number one.
Speaker 1: Of course Rula's nose.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: She went to the same doctor that Rachel from New
Speaker 1: Jersey went to.
Speaker 4: I thought the exact same thing. I was like, that
Speaker 4: is the Rachel Fuda right there.
Speaker 1: It's the who from Whovill. Give me the number six,
Speaker 1: the WHO from Whovill. I'll take that, That's what I want.
Speaker 1: And then I also noticed that Joe Ellen and Rosie
Speaker 1: both had way less lip filler.
Speaker 4: Interesting, I don't notice that, but I yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I believe you because I was looking because they both
Speaker 1: have everybody does, but Joellen's especially and hers are way
Speaker 1: toned down and Rosie's were almost like, to me, looked
Speaker 1: like dissolved. Because when I went when they were doing like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna I hope they're gonna show
Speaker 1: U clip package of something Rosie says a confessional and
Speaker 1: they did and I was like, yes, she completely like
Speaker 1: saw herself on camera and was like, why did I.
Speaker 3: Do that to my face? So yeah, good for her,
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: I mean she still looks great, so so does Joellen.
Speaker 2: So whatever they're.
Speaker 1: Doing, they're all beautiful.
Speaker 2: They're all good on them.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so okay, so dada da da college basketball
Speaker 1: coach the funniest thing, Joellen goes, I mean I heard
Speaker 1: you did it, but like he's not cute, like not attract.
Speaker 2: I know, And I was like, yeah, I am with you.
Speaker 4: But also two things about that. First of all, Kelsey
Speaker 4: did not get the memo about the color of blue
Speaker 4: that they were supposed to wear. Her dress is too
Speaker 4: Ramona blue. It's throwing me off and driving me crazy.
Speaker 4: Number two is the line of the night is when
Speaker 4: Kelsey asks Rosie do you think that I suck dick
Speaker 4: for her career? As she just says, actually, yeah, I
Speaker 4: kind of do. Your only coworker with another girlfriend in Florida,
Speaker 4: And I was just like dead.
Speaker 1: Dead was funny, And you do wonder sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: we see it a lot on our Housewived shows where
Speaker 1: you can tell that they have like prepared their funny
Speaker 1: lines or yes, they got a fun gay friend who
Speaker 1: like told him how to like really slay somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: But this seems sort of off the cuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was totally pre written but delivered like.
Speaker 4: She waited for the moment. She like didn't try to
Speaker 4: force it. You know, it's like, there's the door, Shannon,
Speaker 4: the door, you know what I mean, Like there's not
Speaker 4: even a door, like you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean on a patio, there's no.
Speaker 4: Door, Yeah, exactly, like you know, they're they're like angling
Speaker 4: to get that line in where Rosie just like waited
Speaker 4: and it was perfect and there's no coming back from
Speaker 4: there's nothing Kelsey can say, and she's just like.
Speaker 1: She's never had a job. She's never had a job. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we got plus then we have the whole, the
Speaker 1: Jerry and Liz and the cheating, and Rula, who has
Speaker 1: come to this reunion with an entirely different personality, is like,
Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, the whole. When the cat's away, the
Speaker 1: mice will play. And she keeps saying, well, Liz has
Speaker 1: shared things with me, Liz's shared things with me, and
Speaker 1: Liz is like, I love for you to say it.
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and say it. I'd love for you
Speaker 1: to say it. And Andy's like, Rula, if you know
Speaker 1: she told you this, and She's like, she insinuated it. Lis,
Speaker 1: go ahead and say it, say what it is hilarious.
Speaker 1: So she says that, and then Liz goes, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I think she's talking about and Jerry and
Speaker 1: I were separated.
Speaker 3: I was a block island. I saw a guy I
Speaker 3: used to date.
Speaker 1: We partied, we drank, and then next morning at six am,
Speaker 1: Rula and Brian called Jerry to say what I did?
Speaker 4: Yes, And the whole thing drove me insane. It's it's
Speaker 4: the old Kim Richards. Should we talk about the husband?
Speaker 4: It's like, and Liz even says it, if you have
Speaker 4: something to say, say it so I can address it.
Speaker 4: This like pussy footing around it, like trying, oh, I'm such.
Speaker 2: A good person.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't possibly say, but she'll like put Liz in
Speaker 4: a position where she is forced to say, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. It's like the worst kind of housewife trick.
Speaker 4: I fucking can't stand it.
Speaker 1: And I felt like Andy hated her on the reunion.
Speaker 1: I think Andy hated Roula on the reunion.
Speaker 4: I felt Rolla is doing such a terrible job at
Speaker 4: this reunion, first of all with that nonsense, and then
Speaker 4: there was another instance where she's Andy asked Joellen about like, oh,
Speaker 4: did you have a good time in your twenties? She said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: it had a great time, And Rolla's like, oh, the
Speaker 4: good Time is still continuing, and then Joellen starts talking
Speaker 4: to her and Rolla amps her up, and then Joellen
Speaker 4: gets a little heated and she goes, oh, there she goes,
Speaker 4: and it's.
Speaker 1: Like right up, Like what were you expecting lady?
Speaker 4: Like there she It's like you wound up the toy
Speaker 4: and then you're mad that it's quacking at you, like girl,
Speaker 4: me one hundred percent for real, and like you said, like,
Speaker 4: this is not the role that we saw all season.
Speaker 4: So either that roller we saw all season was a
Speaker 4: lie or this.
Speaker 2: Role is a lie. But either way, you're lying to us.
Speaker 4: And there's nothing that we hate more than a lady
Speaker 4: who is not giving us for real.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, right, right, So it was funny when she said,
Speaker 1: Liz says, And then the next moment and buying and
Speaker 1: Rula they called my husband, and joones like she loves
Speaker 1: a phone call and yeah, then it was the rumors
Speaker 1: about Jerry's friend Dino, of course, and then I'd already
Speaker 1: forgotten that Kelsey had also hooked up with Dino. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, forgot about that. But then we
Speaker 1: get into what you're talking about, where Rula starts saying
Speaker 1: that Joe Ellen got kicked out of her store, already
Speaker 1: got kicked out of college. And she's like, no, I didn't, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Like by the way, that's easy to look up.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: And she goes, were you bad in high school? She goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had like the whole three episodes about it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was bad in high school.
Speaker 3: Ala Alicia's like, she wasn't bad in high school.
Speaker 1: She was a difficult teenager, jumped out the window to
Speaker 1: go see your boyfriend, like who amongst right?
Speaker 4: So, Mary, what is the worst thing you did in
Speaker 4: high school?
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, I can't say that.
Speaker 3: So many bad things.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the time, sneaking out, seeing out, seek
Speaker 1: out my sister's second story window that I could then
Speaker 1: get on a secondary roof and then jump down to
Speaker 1: like a little half all and then I was gone.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't get back up that way, so because
Speaker 1: I wasn't dexterous enough to climb back up, I would
Speaker 1: have to go through a kitchen breakfast room window. And
Speaker 1: one time I came in and I could hear like
Speaker 1: my dad's shower running, like I had I had pushed
Speaker 1: it too far, and I had to like sneak around
Speaker 1: the living room to get to my stairwell. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I was the third kid. I'm sure my parents were like,
Speaker 1: just look over here, just whatever she's doing, who cares?
Speaker 3: But I was.
Speaker 1: I would sneak out. All I did, way, way, way,
Speaker 1: way worse.
Speaker 3: Things than I will not say, but seek I snuck
Speaker 3: out a lot.
Speaker 4: Oh lot.
Speaker 2: I snuck out all the time my friends.
Speaker 4: So I had a car, and my garage was under
Speaker 4: my parents' bedroom, and so they hear the door closed.
Speaker 4: So I'd come home and I'd leave my car and
Speaker 4: then my friends would drive by and they would honk
Speaker 4: the horn, so I knew.
Speaker 2: They were coming.
Speaker 4: And then I would like go outside and like wait
Speaker 4: for them, and they would like come pick me up
Speaker 4: and we would go back out.
Speaker 2: And so that was how I would always seek out
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 4: But joelln putting the shower on, jumping out of the
Speaker 4: bathroom window to go see her boyfriend while the shower
Speaker 4: just ran and ran.
Speaker 2: That's like another level that was.
Speaker 1: At some point somebody in the house is going to
Speaker 1: be like, you're using all our water.
Speaker 4: Like exactly, like yeah, yeah, the shower is cold, girl,
Speaker 4: what are you still.
Speaker 1: Doing in there, but I don't think you know, it
Speaker 1: requires her to go to you know, boarding school or whatever.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Rula just has it out for her. She's
Speaker 1: so mad that Joellen like exposed this affair that she's
Speaker 1: literally like, you're a whore. The only thing bigger than
Speaker 1: your mouth is the hole between your legs. I'm like, geez,
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: And also we all know that Joellen didn't do anything
Speaker 4: like this isn't Joellen's fault. This is Brian's fault, and
Speaker 4: that you're blaming it on Joellen is crazy. And so
Speaker 4: she's going this hard at someone who doesn't deserve it
Speaker 4: at all, and she looks like a fucking fool.
Speaker 1: She does, she does. And at one point, you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we're going to take a break and Andy
Speaker 1: has turned around to get his phone. He's not even looking,
Speaker 1: and she goes Andy like that and how we could
Speaker 1: tell their voices? I have no idea I would without
Speaker 1: you know, this is not like Leu and versus Ramona,
Speaker 1: where we could tell their right He's like Andy and
Speaker 1: he goes Rula, he said it, like what the fuck
Speaker 1: do you want? We're on a break, and she's like
Speaker 1: I've got to show you. I've got the records from
Speaker 1: when my husband was in surgery and I've got and
Speaker 1: he goes, okay, he just gets through the walks working
Speaker 1: at his phone like a great, Okay, that has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's not how you do this, Rolla.
Speaker 4: And also like, just as easily as you're like, you
Speaker 4: could fake.
Speaker 2: A timestamp on a video, you could fake listen like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 4: Girl, be for real, like we know this man is
Speaker 4: lying to you, and at some point she.
Speaker 2: Just needs to be like, I know he had an affair.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: It was like she either needs to accept it and
Speaker 4: tell us she forgives him and they're working on it
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's business, yeah right alone, yeah right.
Speaker 4: But also there there's a point where she and Joan
Speaker 4: are kind of finding about it, and Rolla it's like
Speaker 4: you keep bringing it up and Joel's like, well, we're
Speaker 4: at the reunion. You know, I haven't talked about it
Speaker 4: from the season until, but what do you want me
Speaker 4: to do? Be like, oh, I can't talk about it
Speaker 4: at the reunion. You're crazy.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy now. The funniest thing too, is that
Speaker 1: during this thing where she's like, Andy, I've got the
Speaker 1: record sent to show that that video of him wasn't
Speaker 1: and they're all going, oh my god, and then we
Speaker 1: want Liz.
Speaker 3: Just pulls out her pot babe. It just starts babing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just like girl, I couldnot I need to
Speaker 4: check out of this whole scenario.
Speaker 1: And did you notice how she was getting lower and
Speaker 1: lower in her seat Liz.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's just like slouchy, slouchy. It's a long day,
Speaker 4: I mean. And but the craziest thing to me too
Speaker 4: about that exchange between Liz and Rolla was Rolla's mad
Speaker 4: that Joellen is talking about her affair, but she and
Speaker 4: Brian are calling Liz are calling Jerry to tell him
Speaker 4: that Liz was making out with some other dude. So
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, didn't they do the exact thing that
Speaker 4: they're accusing Joe.
Speaker 1: Well, and Brian is so weird when they had that
Speaker 1: dinner together.
Speaker 2: Met me for a minute.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, not you husband.
Speaker 1: Brian is so weird when they had that dinner, and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I can uh, I can
Speaker 1: take this to pump up, I can take this to
Speaker 1: lose weight. I get this. I got to take a call.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you doing coke in the bathroom?
Speaker 3: Like what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, and she's like accusing Joellen of like oh
Speaker 4: taking all this those up, and it's like, we just
Speaker 4: listened to your husband talk about all the things he does.
Speaker 4: Like so what They both seem like people who were
Speaker 4: not at all equipped for what was going to happen
Speaker 4: when they went on a reality.
Speaker 3: Show Joelleen and Brian No, no, sorry, Brian.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they like I just think that they were unprepared
Speaker 4: and they're trying to dig themselves out and they don't
Speaker 4: know how to do it and they're just making it
Speaker 4: worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1: Well, like you said, always the correct way on these shows,
Speaker 1: always the correct way is, yeah, that happened. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? I'll talk about it so that you
Speaker 1: can't talk about it, and like, it's my story. My
Speaker 1: husband and I have been Yeah, you may think he's
Speaker 1: a piece of shit, and you may have all this evidence,
Speaker 1: but it's our marriage, our family. We're gonna work through it,
Speaker 1: and then nobody can say anything.
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, right, It's like Whitney Rose, my business failed,
Speaker 4: My marriage is in trouble, like everything kind of sucks,
Speaker 4: and because that's it, we will forgive the women for anything.
Speaker 4: If they tell us Karen Huger like yeah, I fucking
Speaker 4: did it, it's like great, thanks Karen, we can move
Speaker 4: on now, you know what I mean, Like, we're not
Speaker 4: looking to be mad about these things, but you they
Speaker 4: do need to take accountability and tell us that what
Speaker 4: we're seeing is true. Otherwise it makes us feel stupid,
Speaker 4: and that makes us upset.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be I can't wait for next
Speaker 1: week when b Oh my god, when Brian comes out.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: Me is so bad at everything. Everything has been terrible.
Speaker 4: That dinner where he's also like, oh yeah, I got
Speaker 4: her so drunk giving her doubles.
Speaker 2: That's how we first met.
Speaker 1: It's like that's not cute.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, he has no idea.
Speaker 2: They have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 4: And I will say, I we've watched so many women
Speaker 4: now come onto these shows like ready for prime time,
Speaker 4: you know, and like the rehearse and they have their
Speaker 4: moment and they're taking it. It's almost nice and quaint
Speaker 4: to see somebody who doesn't know what they're doing. Again,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like, oh, rollo, you're so cute, you're
Speaker 4: completely at sy.
Speaker 2: Good job.
Speaker 1: A good example of that, I think of somebody that
Speaker 1: came on who would watch the shows it was prepared
Speaker 1: and had their one lines and they were ready was
Speaker 1: jin Shaw. She's a good example of somebody who was
Speaker 1: like remember on the first watch of What Happens Life,
Speaker 1: she had like a pink bullhorn and a giant at
Speaker 1: and I was like, ooh, I don't like her right away.
Speaker 2: I don't like too much, right.
Speaker 1: But didn't again, just like Joe Judaice, you're hiding No, yes,
Speaker 1: Joe Judaice, you're hiding all these secrets and you're so
Speaker 1: larger than life and you think it's not going to
Speaker 1: come back on you. Same with Rula and Brian. He's
Speaker 1: just yes, obviously very openly having this affair that everybody
Speaker 1: knows about, and the girl is posting him like he's
Speaker 1: her boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's right and that this is going to
Speaker 4: come out. And if Joellen never mentioned it on the show,
Speaker 4: like and then he gets arrested for like tracking her,
Speaker 4: like even if Joan never said anything on the show,
Speaker 4: we would have been talking about it at the reunion
Speaker 4: because he would have been arrested and then Andy would
Speaker 4: have been like, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 4: And so you can't blame Joe for any of this.
Speaker 1: No, but here's another thing that I didn't understand. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the Liz and Joel and thing. Well, I understand,
Speaker 1: like what the original like argument was about with the
Speaker 1: Alicia Yobaneva Holme, yes, all that, but I don't.
Speaker 3: Understand like Liz was.
Speaker 1: Liz is like, we're not friends, and Joe was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I really thought you were one of my
Speaker 1: best friends.
Speaker 3: And she goes, we were just together on.
Speaker 1: Mother's Day and she goes, I invited Joel because you
Speaker 1: had nothing to do. And I was like, that's somebody
Speaker 1: that you're friends with. You wouldn't just invite a complete
Speaker 1: stranger that you hate over for Mother's Day exactly.
Speaker 4: It reminded me of Carol Radswell and Tinsley. Remember that
Speaker 4: when Tenseley's like, what do you mean we're not perfriends?
Speaker 2: We've been on vacation together. It goes like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it wasn't that closed. It's like, just admit it that
Speaker 2: you were a friend.
Speaker 4: And that's what I didn't get either and there was
Speaker 4: that whole argument.
Speaker 2: It was about like Liz was saying that Alicia and.
Speaker 4: Joellen set her up in the car because they had
Speaker 4: talked about it previously or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was explain about what to do in the car.
Speaker 1: I didn't I couldn't follow that. My brain wasn't allowing that.
Speaker 2: No. And again this is why I hate new evidence.
Speaker 4: I hate things we can't see. I hate these text messages.
Speaker 4: And also, even if that is true, if Alicia and
Speaker 4: Joellen decided we're going to talk about this in the car,
Speaker 4: or which is also likely a producer told Alisha on
Speaker 4: the car ride, make sure you talk about this, So
Speaker 4: even if they agreed to bring it up, Liz never
Speaker 4: had to be like, well you were never homeless again, Like,
Speaker 4: Liz never had to double down like that's what started
Speaker 4: the fight. So even if they set a trap, it's
Speaker 4: Liz's fault for walking into the trap.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and for her she did, you know, pull
Speaker 1: her hair and push her chair.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 1: It's like I never tested you. I never tested to
Speaker 1: you as psycho. I was like, have you watched Rabo
Speaker 1: the way they will roll some footage on your ass
Speaker 1: so fast?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely right, And so that's what I think.
Speaker 4: Liz is not doing very well at this reunion either,
Speaker 4: because she's showing us a different side of herself, like
Speaker 4: someone who's very paranoid, who's like really worried about how
Speaker 4: other people treat her, thinks she's being done badly by
Speaker 4: when it doesn't seem like that's the case. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: now she's like fought with everybody on the cast, and
Speaker 4: it's not a great look for her, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And yeah, I agree, and I do think she's
Speaker 1: kind of hardcore, and yeah, sometimes we like that in
Speaker 1: a housewife. But it is interesting that Liz is saying
Speaker 1: to Joellen, who she had just had at her house
Speaker 1: her Mother's day which was in May, right, and is saying,
Speaker 1: you're you embody something my soul rejects yes, and Joel
Speaker 1: AND's like, okay, she goes, what I think is that
Speaker 1: you're a narcissist like my mother. So I'm looking for
Speaker 1: from you like I do for my mother, and maybe
Speaker 1: I just need to give up on both of you.
Speaker 3: And Liz's like, I'm not like your mother. I'm not
Speaker 3: your mother.
Speaker 1: She's like, I didn't say you were, I just I
Speaker 1: really thought, again, why are you friends with somebody? You're
Speaker 1: saying you're not friends to somebody, but you invite them
Speaker 1: over for Mother's Day, Like you wouldn't do that if
Speaker 1: it wasn't your friend.
Speaker 3: That makes no sense.
Speaker 2: And also why are you right?
Speaker 4: Why are you so concerned that she says that you're
Speaker 4: close friends?
Speaker 2: Like weren't you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing was weird and I did not
Speaker 4: like it, and I think it's a terrible look for Liz.
Speaker 2: And also to go It's.
Speaker 4: One thing to be like, yeah, we you know, you
Speaker 4: thought we were closer than I was. It's another thing
Speaker 4: to be like you're something my soul rejects, Like what
Speaker 4: did she do to you? That she's so terrible? And
Speaker 4: I wonder how much of it do you think is
Speaker 4: like show stuff? Like how much of it do you
Speaker 4: think is Liz thought she was going to be the
Speaker 4: hero and everyone's going to love her, and people like
Speaker 4: Alicia and Joellen Moore like do you think it's that
Speaker 4: or or is it something else?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3: I will tell you that, Joellen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can tell when they like try a line
Speaker 1: out and then they say it again to see if
Speaker 1: it sticks. Joelle and did say twice that Roula was
Speaker 1: a new cast member who was only on three episodes.
Speaker 1: She kept going, who are you? Are you a new
Speaker 1: cast member? And then she said it backstage, and then
Speaker 1: she said it again. I was like, okay, we got it,
Speaker 1: Like you're trying to yeah.
Speaker 4: Because again, like your co worker, your only co worker
Speaker 4: is a girlfriend in Florida, Like it's true, like Rolla
Speaker 4: was barely there. She didn't show up at all, she did,
Speaker 4: you know, and now all of a sudden, she's like
Speaker 4: trying to take center stage. So I'm with Joellen, like, girl,
Speaker 4: if you want to play, show up for work and
Speaker 4: let's play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Well, and then Rosie Rosie says she feels
Speaker 1: that Liz, Joel and Kelsey had this click, which, of course,
Speaker 1: obviously Liz is now saying she and Joel and are
Speaker 1: never friends. But Liz says, I don't do the click thing.
Speaker 1: I don't do like if you're not friends with her,
Speaker 1: I'm not friend. So then nobody does that for me.
Speaker 1: I've tried to be friends with you, Rosie, and Liz goes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like sometimes we did talk shit about you
Speaker 1: and we okay, so we did have a group text
Speaker 1: about you, right, Rosie specifically that we deleted.
Speaker 4: It's like, wow, yeah, well we can see that there
Speaker 4: was there was that kind of group, and I understand
Speaker 4: Rosie's frustration with trying to break into it because it
Speaker 4: was like that instance of the Castle where Kelsey gives
Speaker 4: her the most backhanded of compliments and they're all back
Speaker 4: in Kelsey, and so I can understand how Rosie would
Speaker 4: be frustrated with that. So you know, I'm on Rosie's
Speaker 4: side with that one, like, even if it was inadvertently,
Speaker 4: because she had known these people longer, they were still
Speaker 4: playing favorites.
Speaker 1: When they come back next season, I need them to
Speaker 1: all look exactly alike because I just got it straight
Speaker 1: of who everybody is, because I just they do all
Speaker 1: look alike to me. It's very hard, is very hard.
Speaker 1: And then Joellen this was interesting to me because I
Speaker 1: had not seen this on social media, that Joe Ellen
Speaker 1: did this whole social media thing like I'm head to
Speaker 1: the York. I'm going to be on a road trip,
Speaker 1: because are you enjoying my road trip? I'm road tripping.
Speaker 1: I'm on a road trip. So well, else, do you
Speaker 1: guys want to see what I'm eating on my road trip, Like, wow,
Speaker 1: she really said it a lot.
Speaker 2: She did pulled out a cracker. I would have been like.
Speaker 1: That would be great. Yeah right, and then she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know my social media girl. Brosie goes, I
Speaker 1: don't believe your social media girl did that. And then
Speaker 1: Rule was like, shure, I should that she did it
Speaker 1: on Papa, she did it on purpose.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, I can believe that maybe there was a social
Speaker 4: media girl, you know whatever. But Joellen needed to take
Speaker 4: accountability and be like, oh yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Right into it again. Yeah, sorry about that, Rosie. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Other thing that I.
Speaker 2: Loved Joellen said was like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got laid off and so now I'm going
Speaker 4: to be a.
Speaker 2: Say at home mom, you got a social media girl.
Speaker 4: You know You're like, okay, you decided to be a
Speaker 4: full sight house life like real house life.
Speaker 1: You know, I have this show now, and I don't
Speaker 1: have time to actually work fifty hours a week as
Speaker 1: a sales rep and do this job. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's easy to say, well, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this now. It's easy to say, but to say
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a full time mom when you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But this is where when Rula was like,
Speaker 1: oh shure, the social media girl did it.
Speaker 3: And then Joe Ellen again, it's like, are you a
Speaker 3: new character?
Speaker 1: You were in three episodes, and poor Rosie is like, well, anyway,
Speaker 1: I was just trying to finish what I was saying.
Speaker 1: Rula starts showing that Joellen is a fucking slut. I
Speaker 1: did watch it. I did watch it on Peacock. I
Speaker 1: got to hear all the curse cards.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking slut, Joellen says, guess what, your husband's
Speaker 1: a slut?
Speaker 4: Now true, yes, true, right, And it's like all the
Speaker 4: reads this reunion, it was like so dead on you
Speaker 4: can't even fight it that it's like you're you're busted rolla.
Speaker 4: The only thing Rolad could do was yell and get
Speaker 4: crass at that point because she was owned.
Speaker 1: That's when she said, I don't know, as big of
Speaker 1: your mouth was between your legs, and then Joel untas,
Speaker 1: I'll break your nose, and I love how Alicia is like, no, no,
Speaker 1: she just got it done. As if we all could
Speaker 1: not see the brandy nose there.
Speaker 2: I love Alicia's so much.
Speaker 4: That's because she was like, don't ruin her plastic surgery,
Speaker 4: like no matter what you do, like, yeah, don't funk
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: And then she's like, rolla, don't do it your nose.
Speaker 1: Then he was standing up and I could tell this
Speaker 1: when Andy was like, okay, like, let's I think he
Speaker 1: You can always tell when he is over somebody or
Speaker 1: doesn't like somebody like you. I think he's over to read.
Speaker 1: I think he's annoyed as fuck with her all the time.
Speaker 1: And then Rula just says to everybody as we end
Speaker 1: the episode that everybody knows.
Speaker 3: Everybody here knows Joellen is a whore. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is like a married woman with kids.
Speaker 1: Like, if you've got proof that she's like fucking every
Speaker 1: guy in the neighborhood, sure, but you're not giving us
Speaker 1: any examples of why she's a whore.
Speaker 3: She's a whore because she caught your husband cheating.
Speaker 1: She's a horror, right.
Speaker 4: That's the thing that right, if it was one thing,
Speaker 4: if she had.
Speaker 2: Had affairs that we knew about her she talked about.
Speaker 4: Or whatever, but I will say I don't believe it's true.
Speaker 4: There's certain things that I know aren't true, but.
Speaker 2: Choose to believe are true, Like that Lea.
Speaker 4: Michelle can't read, you know, like I know, Lia Michelle
Speaker 4: probably can read, but I choose to believe that she
Speaker 4: can't because I think it's funny.
Speaker 2: I choose to believe that Joe Ellen and Jerry.
Speaker 4: Are swingers, Like okay, it just like it all makes
Speaker 4: sense to me, Like I just like get it. It
Speaker 4: makes them that much more interesting and whatever, and yeah,
Speaker 4: and so she might be a slot.
Speaker 2: But also if.
Speaker 4: Their swingers, her husband knows about it and who cares
Speaker 4: let her be a slut.
Speaker 1: Speaking of swingers, So this week in the Valley, This
Speaker 1: week on the Valley, Janet declares that Jason wouldn't care
Speaker 1: if she like banged another chick. She was like, he said,
Speaker 1: he doesn't care, Like it won't be cheating if it
Speaker 1: was with the woman. And I was like, is Janet
Speaker 1: trying to save her job at the last minute because
Speaker 1: everybody hated her so much last season and she's sort
Speaker 1: of gaining some favor back that She's like, also, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw in that it'd be okay if I had
Speaker 1: sex with Michelle, Like huh, I mean.
Speaker 4: I it seemed more innocent to me than that, But
Speaker 4: I would I would love for her and Michelle to
Speaker 4: have said, iknek, that would be a great storyline that
Speaker 4: like Janet and Jason had like a threesome with Michelle,
Speaker 4: Like that's great television. We've seen I mean, we've seen
Speaker 4: someone get arrested by the FBI, we've seen people shit
Speaker 4: on the floor, like we've seen all sorts of whatever.
Speaker 4: We've never seen like a three a like that would
Speaker 4: be you know, pretty great.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess no, I take it back, La La.
Speaker 4: Did Marianna with Tom Sandoval?
Speaker 2: But I don't know that she hent s up with Sandoval?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think she just said she ate Ariana's cookie in
Speaker 1: the backseat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that is that a three way? If
Speaker 2: Sandoval was there?
Speaker 3: Sounds like nobody's wear in their seatbelt. Sounds dangerous.
Speaker 1: Also, I thought it was interesting on The Valley this
Speaker 1: week that Kristen and Brittany sit and talk and Brittany,
Speaker 1: you know, Kristin goes, I just don't kind of understand
Speaker 1: what's happening with this Nia and dannything. And she says,
Speaker 1: you know, Christy goes weird, like really great friends. And
Speaker 1: Brittany goes on camera on camera, and then Brittany just
Speaker 1: says to Kristen, I'm not going to change your mind,
Speaker 1: but I think you'll eventually see it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I like that.
Speaker 1: Brittany was like, we are friends, We're going to agree
Speaker 1: to disagree. But I think eventually this will come around
Speaker 1: and they will do something to you, you know, right,
Speaker 1: What are your.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Nia is such a manipulative mastermind.
Speaker 3: I do think she is.
Speaker 1: Maybe a religious zealot that just does what her husband
Speaker 1: says because that's sort of what is taught in her church.
Speaker 4: But I also think she's remember when she told us
Speaker 4: about being like homeless and living in a car and
Speaker 4: what like, Nia is tough as nails and is like
Speaker 4: of all the people on Brava, I'm scared of I
Speaker 4: am like most scared of Nia.
Speaker 2: Like Nia, like, do not fuck with.
Speaker 4: Nia, especially because she looks all nice and sweet and pageanty,
Speaker 4: but like that bitch will fucking come for you. And
Speaker 4: so yeah, But and I do think Danny is kind
Speaker 4: of a jerk. He's like kind of skeazy, like you
Speaker 4: could tell, like kind of people don't like him, and.
Speaker 2: So I just need.
Speaker 4: Either Janna and Jason or Danny and Nia to be
Speaker 4: gone or to never talk about the shit ever again.
Speaker 2: I'm so thick of it.
Speaker 4: Every episode we're going over the same shit over and
Speaker 4: over and over again. It's like Candace and Giselle. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like Teresa and Melissa. It's like, Oh,
Speaker 4: give us something new to fight about, like, give us
Speaker 4: a news story. I can't anymore. And it's sucking everybody.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's the worst part about it
Speaker 4: is that Brittany and Kristen aren't talking about their own stuff.
Speaker 4: They're talking about you know, it's like team Melissa, Team Teresa.
Speaker 4: It's Team Danny or Team Janet, and it's just the
Speaker 4: cast is divided and everything is about it.
Speaker 2: I'm just so sick of it. I'm so sick of it.
Speaker 3: For the record, Team Janet.
Speaker 1: But Danny, you know, every episode he's doing something with drinking,
Speaker 1: like hinding, hiding it, saying he's not drinking, and then drinking.
Speaker 1: And I am married to a recovering alcoholic and I
Speaker 1: can tell you all of these things, just like La
Speaker 1: La says, if you're hiding what you're drinker, are lying
Speaker 1: about your drinking. That is a problem. That is a problem.
Speaker 1: You are lying to people you love about your drinking.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 4: It is well, and even that was like one of
Speaker 4: Jani's initial things that Danny's hiding is drinking, and everyone's like, oh, whatever,
Speaker 4: just let Danny be Danny. But now we see he
Speaker 4: keeps doing it, and so it's like, if you keep
Speaker 4: doing the thing that everybody's accusing you of, you know.
Speaker 4: And then on this week's episode, is Zach kind of
Speaker 4: confronts him about sneaking the booze at Zach's housewarming party,
Speaker 4: which like that Benji is the best because he's like
Speaker 4: a silent assassin. No one even knows he's there. He
Speaker 4: like there was a word. He's just like in the corner,
Speaker 4: like spying out everybody. And then they ask him if
Speaker 4: he's the one who drank the white claw up in
Speaker 4: Brittany's whatever in Britney's bathroom, Yeah, Jim, and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: that wasn't me. And then they show the footage of
Speaker 4: him with the white claw going up to the bathroom,
Speaker 4: and so it's like Danny, what.
Speaker 2: Like, why do you keep lying about it?
Speaker 1: That's the thing you're being recorded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also get his thing where it's like, well,
Speaker 4: everybody has such an issue as I when I drink,
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it because I don't
Speaker 4: want it to be an issue. I kind of get that,
Speaker 4: but also like you keep even when you're caught out,
Speaker 4: why do you keep lying about it? You know, it's
Speaker 4: like it's I don't know that there's anything wrong with it,
Speaker 4: but it.
Speaker 1: Looks terrible right right, especially because last year at the
Speaker 1: reunion he was like, yeah, I mean I could drink
Speaker 1: and I hadn't ha drink three musseleg it's no big deal.
Speaker 1: Da da da, And then he's doing the exact same
Speaker 1: behavior this season, and then when you have to say
Speaker 1: Jack's was right, you know there's a problem.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, never want to say it. And like,
Speaker 4: I don't think that Danny. You know, I don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on, but from what I can see, it
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like Danny has a drinking problem. But he's
Speaker 4: definitely not a fun drunk that people want to be around.
Speaker 4: And so it's like, yeah, so at what point do
Speaker 4: you need to be like, Okay, maybe I should not
Speaker 4: drink around these people at all.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, yes totally. What did you think about
Speaker 1: the butt facials?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna be for real with you, Mary.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I need a butt facial.
Speaker 2: I thought about it.
Speaker 4: Usually I see things on these shows and I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, that's so stupid. And I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: they're both talking about how good it feels. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe I could use the butt facial. So
Speaker 4: I looked up the butt facial at the place. They
Speaker 4: went two hundred and twenty dollars for a butt facial.
Speaker 3: I looked it up too, now because I want to,
Speaker 3: just because I wanted to. I wanted to.
Speaker 1: See, like where this place is to twenty. I don't
Speaker 1: think I need a face facial first for two twenty.
Speaker 4: I know. That's why I was like, Okay, that seems
Speaker 4: a lot for a butt facial. It was like one
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. I'd be like, great, all right, I'll get
Speaker 4: a butt facial, but two twenty seemed excessive.
Speaker 1: We'll report back if you do it. Okay, Now, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: you are watching it, yeah, are you. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of mixed things on this season, like people are
Speaker 1: really annoyed at Shemiah and she always kind of bugged me,
Speaker 1: but I'm interested in her wealth, so I'd like to
Speaker 1: keep her around. Fascinated by this last scene that we
Speaker 1: have with Porsha with Dennis coming over, who is the
Speaker 1: sleepiest person on the planet.
Speaker 3: He's just like, hey, here's your ring.
Speaker 1: You're like, what do you what? But that was interesting
Speaker 1: that she had so much because I think Porsha has
Speaker 1: been a housewive for so long that she is performative
Speaker 1: and she's great and we love her. But that was
Speaker 1: some real, actual emotions she had there, like crying to
Speaker 1: her assistant was like.
Speaker 3: What's wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just here to like fix your hair. Like that
Speaker 1: was some real emotions she had with that dentist thing.
Speaker 1: That was she was upset.
Speaker 4: No, she was upset, and I like kind of get
Speaker 4: it because it was I don't.
Speaker 2: Her and Dennis, I don't get it all.
Speaker 4: And I think her problem was kind of like you're
Speaker 4: the one who fucked up our relationship and now you're
Speaker 4: mad at me for moving on.
Speaker 2: Like fuck you, dude, and like I get that.
Speaker 4: And he had to do it in like this dickish
Speaker 4: way with the ring, and he did it on camera
Speaker 4: and like.
Speaker 1: I'm ready, like, come on back, You've done all this,
Speaker 1: just come on back.
Speaker 2: And she's like right, like I'm waiting for you.
Speaker 4: And it's like, well, but you're still a fucking dick, dude.
Speaker 2: I will say, though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the only one on Porscha's spinoff who
Speaker 4: was like Simon is bad news, you know, and and
Speaker 4: like clocked it.
Speaker 2: From the beginning, so maybe I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I watched a bit of it and then I was like, no,
Speaker 4: thank you, I'm ready for Porscha's lesbian face.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for you know that whole.
Speaker 1: Let's get me to it, Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I had a really hard time getting into Atlanta, and
Speaker 4: I just like put it off, put it off. I
Speaker 4: watched the first two and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: just can't. And then I finally binged it to catch up.
Speaker 4: And now it's starting to click. It's starting to get good.
Speaker 4: And like, I'm liking Pinky a lot, love her. I
Speaker 4: think ky Michelle was doing too much at first and
Speaker 4: has settled down a bit. I think that the the
Speaker 4: old girls and the new girls are starting to blend
Speaker 4: a bit. I love Angela Oakley. I think she's like
Speaker 4: a great find. But yeah, Kelly and Shemiah, I can
Speaker 4: do without this.
Speaker 3: Kelly Kelly kind of bugs. I love.
Speaker 1: I love Cynthia. And she was on and Watch What
Speaker 1: Happens Live the other night and Andy's like, we just
Speaker 1: have to say, like you were just kind of killing it,
Speaker 1: like you're redefining this friend of role you're doing. She
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm holding all together. You're welcome, you know.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And she's doing such and she's filming like crazy.
Speaker 4: She's at every event, and like, Cynthia's great at her job,
Speaker 4: and I think that I don't know why you wouldn't
Speaker 4: want the friend role because she doesn't have to get
Speaker 4: in the muck.
Speaker 2: She doesn't.
Speaker 4: She can be the emeritus. She's like trying to get
Speaker 4: people together. She's you know, no one's coming for Cynthia,
Speaker 4: and she just gets to sit there and like be
Speaker 4: fun and funny and like all the best parts of
Speaker 4: the job without any of the worst parts of the job.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think she's doing a great job.
Speaker 1: We got to see Phaedra in her law office, which
Speaker 1: you haven't seen in years because she's always.
Speaker 2: I didn't practice.
Speaker 3: Basically got the morgue. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So many jobs.
Speaker 1: When she whipped out that flute, it was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, what well.
Speaker 4: And I was ready for it to be like a
Speaker 4: Housewives moment where she like gets on the flue and
Speaker 4: then it's like Luanne trying to sing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But she got on the flue.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you can like play that flue.
Speaker 2: Good job, you better work, Drew.
Speaker 3: I still feel like doesn't add a lot.
Speaker 2: O never liked her, never liked her.
Speaker 4: I will say that she's dialed it back a bunch
Speaker 4: and is less.
Speaker 2: On the attack this season.
Speaker 4: I'm liking her more when she's having fun with the
Speaker 4: ladies and showing her more fun like silly side, I'm
Speaker 4: like into it. But I also, oh my god, if
Speaker 4: it's her, if it's Lisa Hawk scene, if it's Robin
Speaker 4: Dixon late people drive me crazy.
Speaker 2: And like she had the whole party.
Speaker 1: She has a condition. She has a condition.
Speaker 2: She has a condition.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And that in their divorce filings or whatever they just
Speaker 1: was all filed, a lot of that was in there
Speaker 1: that the reason Ralph was getting the custody of the
Speaker 1: kids is because the kids were either late or absent
Speaker 1: from school. But like late to school by an hour,
Speaker 1: you know, four out of the five days a week.
Speaker 1: When in her care, the children were always liked to
Speaker 1: school and so that was a that the judges like,
Speaker 1: they can't be late to school, so he has to
Speaker 1: take them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and self disease.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess you know. I went on
Speaker 4: a whole screen about Lisa Hawsteam being late all the
Speaker 4: time in a recap and a lot of people are like,
Speaker 4: this is kind of ADHD and it might be a
Speaker 4: real thing and whatever. It's like, Okay, I believe that
Speaker 4: that might be a real thing. But also, your kids
Speaker 4: can't be late for school, So what are you going
Speaker 4: to do to address this thing?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, you've got to work through some therapy tools,
Speaker 1: whether it's alarms on your phone or whatever they recommend. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can relate, you can relate. So right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: ten minutes early, you're late to me. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: that girl. I am a one minute ahead, two minutes
Speaker 1: after kind of girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I try to be very prompt.
Speaker 4: But also I've lived in the city for a long time.
Speaker 4: There's traffic there's you know, subway mishaps. Whatever, I'll give you, you know,
Speaker 4: ten fifteen minutes, especially if you text.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a little bit late. I have no
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 4: But like if you're always late and it's a lot late, like, no, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not gonna be friends with you, sorry, like I would not.
Speaker 1: We'll be friends on text because that's all I can handle.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, if I drive somewhere, If I drive, if
Speaker 1: I leave my house and drive somewhere and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to meet you and you're not there or you're late
Speaker 1: or you forgot that, I'm like, Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: you really care about me as a friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, if I'm sitting in a bus with the rest
Speaker 4: of our coworkers waiting two hours for you to show up,
Speaker 4: that you.
Speaker 2: Better fucking watch out.
Speaker 4: I'd be like Stephanie Shoji and be like, fuck you,
Speaker 4: why are you late?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's kind of where they got
Speaker 1: with Jareit this season And she's just you know, she
Speaker 1: tried to make fun of it and stuff. And I
Speaker 1: was at the Watch What Happens Live taping when she
Speaker 1: was there and Andy was asking her about it.
Speaker 3: When she was in that white fluffy get up, and.
Speaker 1: She was She was like, well, I feel like I've
Speaker 1: apologized enough, Andy goes, No, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think you know, every time you're late you should apologize.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and also like stopp being late all.
Speaker 1: The time, I'm working on it. I'm working. No, you
Speaker 1: just like Jack's you're a work in progress.
Speaker 4: Likely okay, yeah, right, like okay, girl, that will fly
Speaker 4: for so long.
Speaker 1: You think they'll bring Jack's back now that he's he
Speaker 1: did like a ninety day program and he's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean what Brittany has said is he is sober,
Speaker 1: but he is he is still the same person.
Speaker 2: You can't change that, Absolutely correct. I don't know that
Speaker 2: we need Jack's back.
Speaker 4: However, I would be curious about having stand the ball
Speaker 4: back on the valley.
Speaker 3: Really, I have not read. That never even occurred to me.
Speaker 4: I think that he knows everybody. He I think Schwartz
Speaker 4: is a great addition to the group. I actually think
Speaker 4: Laala is doing a very good job on the show.
Speaker 2: I know she's very divisive.
Speaker 4: People don't like her, but I think she's trying to
Speaker 4: resolve this situation when no one else is. And I
Speaker 4: think she's doing a good job of it, and so
Speaker 4: I think it would be good to see Sandobal there.
Speaker 4: He he's fine, he's funny, he will bring mass. So
Speaker 4: I would be very curious about who he's dating, what's
Speaker 4: going on in his life, and what life looks like.
Speaker 4: Kind of post cancelation Jack. I never need to see again.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately I feel like if he maybe you know,
Speaker 1: they were like, we'll bring you back if you actually
Speaker 1: do a ninety day program and actually you could prove
Speaker 1: that you're sober for more.
Speaker 3: Than the new year.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have had some stipulations on him
Speaker 1: of like we'll bring you back, but you're going to
Speaker 1: have to, you know, go to a domestic violence thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's they could have done all that, and he could
Speaker 1: have met all his requirements and then they could bring
Speaker 1: him back. But I don't think anybody misses him, you know.
Speaker 4: I agree, And also I have a problem with him.
Speaker 4: I would throw juice of door in there. I would
Speaker 4: throw mea Thornton in there. It's like, if you are
Speaker 4: a known liar, it's no fun having you on the
Speaker 4: show because we can't believe anything you say. And it's
Speaker 4: like any fight he gets in even if he's telling
Speaker 4: the truth. Brittany just goes, well he's lying, Well he's
Speaker 4: lying about that.
Speaker 2: He's lying, you know.
Speaker 4: It's part of what is fun about these shows is
Speaker 4: watching and saying like, oh, this person's right and this
Speaker 4: person's wrong, and here's why I think it is. But
Speaker 4: you can't get in that fight because it's just like, well,
Speaker 4: Jackson's a liar, you know, And so I think it
Speaker 4: like robs the shows of their fun for us to
Speaker 4: have these people who are you know, it's one thing
Speaker 4: of your Sonya Morgan, You're a little delusional, you know,
Speaker 4: like you know great, But to be just like you
Speaker 4: that you can't trust a single thing this person is
Speaker 4: telling you, like I think, is bad for the shows.
Speaker 1: I want to end on something very funny that I
Speaker 1: just remembered when they were at short to Palooza, which
Speaker 1: was I hope all of them didn't take more all
Speaker 1: your mushrooms before they went to this sad, sad party,
Speaker 1: because that would have been about, oh my god, this whole.
Speaker 2: Trip is so miserable.
Speaker 4: It's raining, they're all injured like babies.
Speaker 2: One to be there, Oh my god, it's terrible.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yes, when they were there and Jesse was. They're like,
Speaker 1: it's Michelle and La La, Michelle and La La and
Speaker 1: Jesse and somebody else maybe I can't remember, but they're like,
Speaker 1: what about Lacey And he goes, oh, yeah, she's coming tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And Lala goes, do you want us all just to
Speaker 1: be mean to you so you feel right at home?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so true. And he's like, no,
Speaker 4: she's keeping me accountable. And it's like, no, girl, she
Speaker 4: is not.
Speaker 1: Credit card got declined, So I don't think you're being
Speaker 1: held accountable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Lacey is such an interesting character.
Speaker 3: She hates him, She just wants to be on TV.
Speaker 1: The fact that they said she's she tried to get
Speaker 1: on Orange County many times, you know.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think there's a reason why she
Speaker 4: didn't get cast because she's boring.
Speaker 2: I think lady's boring.
Speaker 3: She's not very dynamic.
Speaker 1: That is true.
Speaker 2: No, I do think there's layers to Lacey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, but I think she's not showing them.
Speaker 1: I think her being ging to Jesse is the funniest
Speaker 1: part about her.
Speaker 4: Yes, And but I don't think she wants us to
Speaker 4: see the real her, and that to me, is not
Speaker 4: that interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I Michelle confirming how much what happens
Speaker 1: live that she's dating doctor Dray is just the weirdest,
Speaker 1: most amazing thing ever.
Speaker 2: It makes me so happy.
Speaker 4: But also I feel like doctor Dray is going to
Speaker 4: be like, girl, get off that show, rather than Michelle
Speaker 4: being like, doctor Dre is now in the valley.
Speaker 1: No, don't imagine he's not coming to the valley. No,
Speaker 1: he's a billionaire. Ran I know the b billionaire.
Speaker 4: I know a billionaire, but girl, he's famous.
Speaker 2: He likes attention. Who knows?
Speaker 1: So doctor where the value Jones know what Elly is?
Speaker 1: He's been to the valley? He doesn't, he doesn't associate
Speaker 1: with the valley. I think that is like beyond fascinating, beyond.
Speaker 4: Absolutely one hundred percent. I always I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: Michelle's so boring. I'm really coming around to Michelle. I
Speaker 4: think that she's a lot more interesting and dynamic than
Speaker 4: I ever anticipated, and especially now that she's out from
Speaker 4: under Jesse's shadow, Like, I think she's having some time
Speaker 4: to be on her own and I'm enjoying seeing her.
Speaker 1: Well, she's like, do you have one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars so I can pay off my ex loser
Speaker 1: husband's debt.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the hat and move with the papers.
Speaker 4: We do have papers. Aside, I was like, who taught
Speaker 4: you that? Did she to say tell you to do that?
Speaker 4: Because that is like executive level reality television, arts and sciences,
Speaker 4: Like it was amazing, and I I was like, girl,
Speaker 4: you fucking got his ass bad.
Speaker 1: Last question, were you the ghost writer for Dari's book?
Speaker 4: No? I was not, Thank god, I could not imagine.
Speaker 2: I made a joke about it in one.
Speaker 4: Of my recaps about like how they had to have
Speaker 4: two people because they would do shifts where Duri just
Speaker 4: like talk to them.
Speaker 1: And she wouldn't even notice that they switched people because
Speaker 1: it would just.
Speaker 4: Be yeah, and You're all like, this is unusable, this
Speaker 4: is unusable.
Speaker 2: This is unusable.
Speaker 4: But I will say. They sent me a copy of
Speaker 4: the book. I haven't read it. It is a very
Speaker 4: slim volume. There are pictures in the center, and there
Speaker 4: do not appear to be any pre nosed job photos
Speaker 4: in the pictures.
Speaker 3: Of course not of course not.
Speaker 4: So not that d has had a host shop, but
Speaker 4: if she were too, there would not be evidence in
Speaker 4: the book.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. What else are you working on right now?
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you and what you're
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Speaker 4: I am recaving the Valley and in the City at
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Speaker 4: and then I'll be doing Real Houseves to Orange County
Speaker 4: when that comes back, which is beginning of July.
Speaker 2: And then I have my.
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Speaker 1: Best moment of each season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the best moment of each season for the
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