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today's episode, we talk about the Phenian Brotherhood and how

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a bunch of Irish Civil War vets decided it was

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a good idea to invade Canada.

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Speaker 2: Yad. When you put brotherhood after anything, it does just

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sound like a supremacy group.

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Speaker 1: It does, it does.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Softcore History.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Softcore History. I'm your host for the week.

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Damn Red Jester joined not by Rob Fox today he's

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on paternity leave. Yes, I'm a gracious co host. I

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allow Rob to give birth to his child with his wife.

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He has the day.

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Speaker 3: Off he gave birth this time instead.

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Speaker 1: The IDEs of March just passed. Who better than to

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have the icon of blast Boys. Joe Benner, Matt Cooper,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be here. Man Rip Julius Caesar.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you guys did like thirty episodes on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on our way to thirty, but kind

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of got shot down.

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Speaker 1: Where did it get stopped?

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Speaker 2: Around episode thirteen? So the last thing that it was

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when Caesar brought Cleopatra back from Egypt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that we but we kind of kept going.

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Speaker 4: We just called the episodes about Cleopatra, but it was mostly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we named him after other people in the story,

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but it was still the continuation of Julius Caesar.

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Speaker 1: He's an interest in man Cleopatras whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean throat goat. But aside from that,

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she didn't really do much.

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Speaker 1: All she has to offer to the world is her mouth.

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Speaker 2: No thanks, nothing else you need if you're good at it.

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Speaker 3: She was the best at it.

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Speaker 1: So it's Saint Patti's day as this comes out. We

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just did an episode on the Irish actually upset a

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couple Irish listeners about the whiskey flood. I guess so

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because we were making fun of our ancestors, we got

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our Irish cards revoked me and Rob, So I guess

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I'm no longer Irish.

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Speaker 2: Damn. That's rough. Does that mean I can't like drink

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and beat women anymore?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, Yeah, I think I no longer

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have that pass.

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Speaker 2: Shit. Those are the only two things I enjoy in life.

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Speaker 1: I have to embrace my force British ancestry. My last name, Rejester,

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is British.

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Speaker 2: Is it? Where does that come from? Well, I think

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I've ever met anybody with the with the name Register before.

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Speaker 1: It means people that lived beside a hill.

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Speaker 2: Why would you need a specific word for that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, baller to live by a hill.

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Speaker 1: I imagine it was just kind of forced on my

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Irish ancestors a little uh, you know, some of the

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r a word.

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Speaker 2: The Irish did get a lot of stuff forced onto

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him by the British back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I just found out about the troubles, like not

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that long ago. Like I knew about the troubles. I

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knew they happened in the seventies. I didn't know they

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were in internment camps.

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Speaker 2: They had fucking internment camps.

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Speaker 1: The British had internment camps in Northern Ireland in like

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nineteen seventy and I think some of the members were

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in jail until like two thousand.

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Speaker 3: What. Yes, this blew my mind for what I don't

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know anything about.

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Speaker 1: It, for being IRA members.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they IRA. What was kind of a rough institution.

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They yeah, but blew up a few things.

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Speaker 1: They just kind of it was like this broad umbrella

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for any military age male in like the seventies. They

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just kind of throw them in prison. Oh you're an

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IRA member.

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Speaker 2: God damn, Irish can't catch a fucking break anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Are they cool anymore? Were they cool? I think Connor

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McGregor made him not cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean before that I think they were. They're fairly cool.

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Speaker 1: Did the Irish even like own Connor at this point?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they disavowed him at this point. He

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got his Irish carb re bok.

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Speaker 1: He is running for I think government there. What he's

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doing like the Manipacquia.

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Speaker 3: Route, he'll win.

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Speaker 2: So what is he going to try and restart the troubles?

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Speaker 1: I don't know he's trying. I think he's trying to

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get start his own troubles against like any immigrant that

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comes into Ireland.

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Speaker 2: God damn.

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Speaker 1: But our whole point last week was the Irish. I've

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always been conquered and always just kind of beaten around.

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Speaker 3: They don't win, we don't win a lot.

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Speaker 1: We're good storytellers.

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Speaker 3: Well you're not Irish anymore.

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Speaker 1: Right, I guess I'm not Irish anymore. I just I

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got to own my Portuguese roots, my English, Portuguese and

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Turkish roots. No longer Irish, fuck the Irish, you know

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what I mean? Oh, come on, well, today we're going

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to talk about the Irish. Oh it Saint Patty's Day

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after all?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Happy Saint Patty's Day. Guys, I'm not wearing green.

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Speaker 1: If I'm celebrating, I would never expect you to wear green.

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You only own black cloaks.

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Speaker 4: I think I have underwear, a one pair, but not today.

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Speaker 1: But they do not feeling lucky though?

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Speaker 2: Do they start off green or turn that color?

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Speaker 3: They turned that color?

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Speaker 1: You're just pissing green every day.

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Speaker 3: I have a I did ship my pants the other day.

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Speaker 2: It sucked.

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Speaker 3: It's a true story. I actually did. It sucks here

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at the studio.

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Speaker 1: I have pissed green before. Oh what really Saint Patti's Day?

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In college, they used to dive a beer so any

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I would hit the block party crush like twenty green

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beers next day, just fluorescent green piss.

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Speaker 2: O, green piss and black shits.

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Speaker 1: Not great.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I was dying from something.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a little Irish group called the

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Fenian Brotherhood. You know about this?

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Speaker 3: Hear about this Brotherhood's good game.

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Speaker 1: That's where I get all my history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people think I'm a dope when it

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comes to the show.

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Speaker 3: That was in France, right, Brotherhood? Brotherhood? Wasn't it in France?

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Speaker 1: No? I think that was.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it was in Florence. Whoever that is.

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Speaker 2: They had one in Italy and I think the third

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one in the series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be that one. But yeah, did most

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of my history I get from Assassin's Creed.

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Speaker 3: Me too.

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Speaker 2: Games had a lot of good information in it when

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it when it came to history, all the first ones did.

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Speaker 4: Everywhere you went, you could see like they would have

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a description and like information, and I would actually read

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all of them when I was a kid playing those games.

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Speaker 2: To this day, I would have no idea what the

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Hagia Sophia was if it wasn't for Assassin's Creed.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I don't know if that is all I know?

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Speaker 1: Is pretty cool to assassinate a pope?

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah?

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Speaker 2: Popular throughout history.

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Speaker 1: Popes are bad dudes, you know? Actually, no, they were

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always right until Vatican Two.

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Speaker 2: That Vatican two electric bogoloo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't really know anything about Vatican two or

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what that entailed, but I know it's bad. I know

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the Catholic Church and the Vatican got naughty, got a

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little contaminated with outside allegedly. I know nothing about this.

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I want to move on.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Irish people.

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Speaker 1: We are so. The Fenian Brotherhood was a group of

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Mick Americans dedicated to freeing Ireland from the British crown.

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Many of these Patties were fresh out of the Civil

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War and figured we just beat the South, why not

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take on the North. No, obviously not the Union.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank god, more north.

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Speaker 1: The North is north of North America.

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Speaker 2: The damn dirty Canadians Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sick Irish Americans right after the Civil War invaded Canada.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: If there's one thing Irish people love, it's a fight.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll get that's what this episode's about. Okay, the

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time Irish Americans invaded Canada. Now, the Fenians believe capturing

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Canada could be used as a bargaining ship to free

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the homeland. So in the fall of eighteen sixty five,

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they began to make preparations to invade the syrup sucking

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scum we call that.

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard anything about this before you mentioned it

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when you came in earlier today and I was looking

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into it. It's I mean, it's a fascinating story overall, dude.

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Speaker 1: I don't know most of the things I talk about

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until I write the episode. That's what this show's about.

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It's about me learning. Rob tries to stun on me

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with his history, but he didn't get a five on

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Zapus history. I did, and I can always throw that

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in his face. I'm also undefeated on the Patreon in

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our game shows, never lost.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a better Catholic than Rob. I'm a better

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father than Rob.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's easy to say all that when he's not

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here to defend himself.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I gave him the day off. He's lucky. I've

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never actually taken a show off. I can't. I've been

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involved in every software history ever shot. Rob has missed

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quite a few.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: That guy, he's not a grinder, he's not dedicated.

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Speaker 3: It's a family man, dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's more importan he's granting that pussy dude

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making kids. Now, dude, every time he has sex, he

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has he's a child. He's only had sex three times

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in the last three years. Know this, three boys. I'm

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a little salty though. Obviously the first kid is named

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after him, right, it's Rob. It's Rory, but it's Rob talks.

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The fourth second kid is Finn Jacob, so it means white. Jake,

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so it's named after our our old co host, Jake Goldman.

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Third kid, you would think Dan, No, not Dan, not Daniel.

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I offered it up. I'm like, hey, want you name

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your kid after me?

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Speaker 3: Instead makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It was Samuel Sam.

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Speaker 2: So he's not even not even giving you like like

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middle named Daniel or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Nah. Middle name is named after uh, his wife's middle

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name too. I didn't even get a goddamn middle name.

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Speaker 2: God damn.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get a confirmation name, maybe a little Sam

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once he reaches sixth grade and gets confirmed by the

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Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit enters him, he'll choose

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the name Daniel Man.

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Speaker 2: Catholicism is a weird religion.

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Speaker 3: Do they call you uncle?

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Speaker 1: Not yet? Actually, Rory came in the other day and

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he was afraid of me. I think you heard some

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of the things I've said about him in the past.

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Speaker 2: You a little shit. Yeah, haven't you been threatening to

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fight him for like since he was born?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's a monster. That's why he needs to

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be stopped. He needs to be put in his place.

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I was going to raise his other kid, Finn, to

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take on the older brother.

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Speaker 4: Have like an a great name, Yeah, yeah, Samuel Rory

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also a great nickname for Rob.

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't even know Rory was a nickname

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for Rob, but I didn't. Yeah, solid strong names.

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Speaker 1: Straight Irish, Like the third kid should be Patrick, all

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things considered, you know Patrick, I mean, Daniel's a great

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Irish name. Couldn't get anything, couldn't get anything.

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Speaker 4: From this man Samuel. Who's the famous Samuel Doe. That's

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tough besides El Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the toughest one out at all

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of them.

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Speaker 3: Was Samuel in the Bible?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's a couple of Samuel's in there.

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Speaker 1: Sam had the long hair right cut his hair.

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing I thought it was Samson, same

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thing that was almost my nephew's name.

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Speaker 3: Samson would have been a better name than.

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Speaker 2: Sam It's a way Oh yeah, that would be way.

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Speaker 3: Cooler Samson Fox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like a porn star.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Sampson though. I cut my hair and

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I cut my beard, immediate loss at the gym. Yeah,

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I wasn't as strong yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I can't know.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody in the studio was against you cutting

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your beard or your hair.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, it's getting hot.

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Speaker 4: I could barely get my ass here. I was like

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so pissed about it. He had to look at a

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no call, no show on this, had to look at pictures.

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Speaker 1: Of you to get in the mood answer for your crimes.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 1: The Feenian Brotherhood was founded in eighteen fifty eight by

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John O mahoney. I mean, can you get more Irish

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than that?

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Speaker 2: Oh mahoney? O mahony is oh is middle middle initial

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or it's O mahony, Oh mahony.

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Speaker 1: This is his last name.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a little dash or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you

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don't get any more Irish than that, John o' mahoney did.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say, just like clean that up a

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little bit, Just go John mahoney, Yeah, that's what you think,

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John o' mahoney.

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Speaker 2: It's too many syllables, it's a lot of syllables to

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say when you're drunk too.

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Speaker 1: He had come to the US after playing a big

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part and he failed Young Irelander Rebellion of eighteen forty eight.

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The name of the group comes from a Fenian cycle,

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which was a collection of Gaelic poems that were centered

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around the mythical pre Christian Irish Army. The group was

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solidified with conventions in Chicago in eighteen sixty four and

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in Cincinnati in eighteen sixty five. This all went down

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as O mahoney found himself as the colonel of the

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sixty ninth Nice Regiment of the New York State Militia,

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leading Irish forces for the Union against obviously the Confederates.

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So a lot of these dudes become hardened vets. In

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the Civil War, there's just straight up Irish regiments.

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Speaker 2: And this the Fenian Brotherhood is this it's primarily like

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a political group or did this start off as like

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a social club or something both.

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Speaker 1: It was for the freedom of Ireland. So it's just

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like we support this club, we're members of this club.

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We're putting our money towards independence. Okay, but yeah, it

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was kind of a political machine as well, dudes were

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running for local politics. There's dudes that were running for

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national politics too, and it's just you kind of had

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this like backing of the Fenian Brotherhood.

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Speaker 2: Sort of like an Irish mafia kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: They sound racist just because of the name, well.

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Speaker 2: And because they're Irish running the.

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Speaker 1: Blood Fenian's not too far off of Arian. Yeah, but

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you'll I'll ever find Irish supremacist. Like, I don't think

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there's a single Irish supremacist. It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not that I can think of. But yeah, you

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throw a brotherhood at the end of anything, it sounds

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pretty pretty racist. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not being able to have a work life balance between

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war with the Confederates and operating his spud club, he

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chose Irish independence over freeing American slaves and resigned from

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his post to get the wheels really moving on the Fenians.

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His presidency of the Brotherhood was quickly challenged by William R. Roberts. O.

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Mahony was a bit cash poor from his decades long

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quest for a free Ireland, and Roberts quickly found himself

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as an influential member, having deep pockets himself. O mahoney,

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you know starts the American chapter of the Fenian Brotherhood.

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This is kind of like a spinoff of a bunch

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of groups in Ireland. And then as soon as he

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gets in and as soon as he leads, he's already

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getting ousted by other dudes.

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Speaker 2: And they're just booting him out because he's poor.

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Speaker 1: Because he's poor. He lost off his mind game.

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Speaker 2: Almost every Irish person is poor.

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Speaker 3: Lots of prostitutes probably too.

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Speaker 2: That's where a lot of the money went.

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Speaker 1: Outside of money from Roberts, the organization sold bonds to

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keep their mission going. These would be redeemable six months

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after the official recognition of the Independent Ireland, and all

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the potato pop and pilgrims that immigrated to our shores

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were happy to donate. O. Mahoney was of the belief

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that the Irish veterans should come together and voiage straight

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over to take Ireland back from the British head on.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a pyramid scheme right there, Like, oh,

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just give me some money. As soon as Ireland's free,

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we'll pay you back.

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Speaker 1: Kinda yeah, Like the fact that you're contributing to something

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that's like almost an incredible long shot. Like think at

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the time, Oh.

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Speaker 3: You don't get it back unless they win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, six months after they got to keep the country

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for six months.

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Speaker 4: Let me guess they don't ever get it back.

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Speaker 1: Now Ireland becomes independental. Oh, Ireland does eventually become Not

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until the nineteen twenties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, long after everybody involved in this is dead.

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Speaker 3: Well, they get their money bag.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the family.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to cash bonds?

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Speaker 3: No, I've never dealt with then.

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Speaker 1: Your grandparents or your parents didn't give you bonds back

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in the day. No mature twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: No, my family hates me.

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Speaker 1: That's a racket. My grandfather would get me like a

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fifty dollars bond every year, be like, oh, it'll be

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worth a lot of money, you know in twenty thirty years.

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It's not I cash them after they matured years of interest?

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Would you get like fifth head kind of like an

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extra five bucks?

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Speaker 2: Was I was joking, but I'm not kidding bucks.

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Speaker 1: There's word nothing. I thought. I was sitting on the

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gold mine. It was trash, Jill, absolutely trash. Grandpy didn't

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care about me.

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Speaker 4: You had two grandkids, You got fifty five bucks, dude,

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I didn't get any money from my Grandma Granpa.

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Speaker 2: At least he tried. Yeah, all I got was an

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old ass rifle that I don't think works anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of that's kind of cool though, that's cooler.

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Speaker 2: It is a pretty cool rifle. I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: It was like twenty years worth of bonds got me

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through a month when I was unemployed.

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Speaker 2: So is that like a fifty dollars bond every year

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for twenty years?

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Speaker 1: It was for every holidays, So so it was like

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I think in total, I cashed like fifteen hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Shit, that's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years worth of bonds though, I mean over twenty

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years that month. I was expecting so much more. I

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thought I was. You know, I also had the Princess

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Diana beanie baby.

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Speaker 2: There was that was gonna be where Princess Diana purple bears. Well,

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I never heard of.

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Speaker 1: My mom throughout all my Pokemon cards. So there goes

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that wealth. Dude, that's that was generational.

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Speaker 2: That's where the.

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Speaker 4: Money would have been being student in my cards, X

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Men cards and shit like full collections that are worth money.

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Speaker 3: My sister has them, dude.

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Speaker 2: Get those things a praise. I've gotten into watching like

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older reruns of Pond Stars Lately and some of that

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shit you can you can retire off.

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Speaker 4: I've got like an X Men one comic like for

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do you know the year the very first one? It

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was like or something.

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Speaker 1: Started in ninety two, or maybe maybe it was an

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X Men.

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Speaker 4: It was the one with when Cable joined Cable's win

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the other team.

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Speaker 2: It's later on in the in the series, because yeah,

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it initially started in the nineteen sixties, because it was

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about the civil rights movement. There's a sixties seventies something

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like that. I don't I know nothing about kin real cool.

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Speaker 1: Stanley X Men.

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Speaker 3: That's sex Men.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't know anything about those.

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Speaker 1: Roberts had a different plan than to go right to Ireland.

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He believed that by attacking and holding parts of Canada,

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they could hold the land hostage against the Crown or

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divert British forces over to leave Ireland vulnerable for rebellion. Also,

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a bunch of the Irish Union Vets were just pissed

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off at the UK as they supported the Confederacy and

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really wanted to stick it to them by invaded their

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lands in October of eighteen sixty five, Roberts met with

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US Secretary of State William Sewart and President Andrew Johnson.

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Roberts asked the President straight up if he was cool

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with the group of Irish fats go in rogue and

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attacking the Canucks. Johnson did not outright support it, but

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he essentially gave him a back door not to go

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on with her with his plans.

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Speaker 2: So they approached the President to ask if they could

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invade the the US's closest neighbor, and the President was

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just like, I don't approve, but I'll I'll just look

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the other way. God damn that that's insane. That the

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old days, like back when you could fund your own wary,

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they were amazing. We need to go back to that.

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I want to see more independent armies marching around taking

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over over other guys.

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Speaker 4: So he didn't give him approval, right, he just turned

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a blind eye.

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Speaker 3: So what you're saying, little.

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Speaker 1: Shoulder shrug, just like, eh, I'm not gonna stop you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah do it, but I'm not gonna I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna help you, but I'm not gonna help you.

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Speaker 3: And if Canada says something I can, he's.

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Speaker 4: Got plausible than I And Bill, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's safe,

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but fuck up those connects.

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Speaker 2: Dude. I've been saying it for years.

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Speaker 1: Fuck Canada, sal Park's been saying it for years. Yeah,

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that's why I first learned Fuck Canada.

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Speaker 4: Americans don't like Canadians anymore either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been going both way.

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Speaker 3: Anyone really likes us anymore?

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Speaker 1: Dude, I don't care though, I mean neither, like we're

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gonna do about it.

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Speaker 4: Guys, what country like loves us anymore?

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Speaker 2: All right, that's that's a really good question. Yeah, but

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you don't. When you're on top, you don't need friends.

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Speaker 4: I think when we stopped making good movies, that's when

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the world stopped liking us, because that was the only

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thing we did good.

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Speaker 3: For the world.

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Speaker 2: Out of everything, Americans like.

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Speaker 4: They're killing everybody and fucking everything up, but they make

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awesome movies.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't even do that now that we don't

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give them money anymore.

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Speaker 4: We don't do that now either. Yeah, we're like fucking

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up everything cool we did. No one likes us anymore

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on a hand basket.

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Speaker 1: Like they can't do anything. Even as like a unit.

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We would wreck their ship.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'd by far. We have the strongest military in

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the world. We could suck up everybody.

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Speaker 1: We should honestly do exhibition wars against our own units.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'd get that pay per view if they started

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doing that, just put different brigades against each other. That'd

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be fucking awesome.

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Speaker 4: That we should just attack actual countries to show our power.

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Speaker 3: I think we're like just to show other people.

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Speaker 1: This is what we did in the eighteen Honors.

474
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Speaker 4: We should have never stopped moving south. There's really a

475
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lot of cool beaches in Mexico.

476
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Speaker 1: That was the thing with the Mexican American War. We

477
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were too lenient with our kind of hall, with our booty.

478
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We could have taken way more land.

479
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, pretty much. We just got what like half

480
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of California and most of Texas out of it.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we could have. We could have like carved

482
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a nice part of Mexico.

483
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Speaker 2: We could have at least gotten that whole peninsula over

484
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there or something.

485
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Speaker 1: Same thing with us giving back the Panama Canal. Not

486
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cool with it, bro, that's ours, should be ours.

487
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Speaker 2: We'll be taking it back soon.

488
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Speaker 1: Hopefully, black will. We started the Panama Revolution against Columbia

489
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in the agreement was this is our canal.

490
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Speaker 3: And now it's not, and now it's China's canal.

491
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.

492
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we gave it back to Panama and

493
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then Panama and just kind of opened it up to China.

494
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Speaker 1: Panama's not a real country.

495
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Speaker 2: FREDI could party the Unions.

496
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Speaker 4: It's a party place, right, Panama, Panama. That song makes

497
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me feel like you could party there.

498
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Speaker 2: I think David Lee Roth can make it sound like

499
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you can party anywhere.

500
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Speaker 1: The Fenians came together for convention in Philadelphia. Roberts, with

501
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the approval of the President, essentially rallied his delegation to

502
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move forward with the attack on Canada.

503
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Speaker 4: You know, he said that he had approval too, even

504
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though it was kind of like, Okay, he's like, dude,

505
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the president says.

506
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Speaker 1: Attack, Oh my honey, wasn't totally into it. But that

507
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wasn't a problem because the group just removed him from

508
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his position of president of the Brotherhood. During this convention,

509
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Roberts was put in charge and we were ready to

510
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go to war boys.

511
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Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

512
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Speaker 1: Roberts secretary for war was General T. W. Sweeney, who

513
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was struck off the American Army list. From January eighteen

514
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sixty six to November of eighteen sixty six to allow

515
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him to organize the raids, so he officially took off

516
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from his job with the US Army to put together him.

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just like, yeah, they did kind of have

518
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permission then.

519
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, that sounds like it's it's not on paper.

520
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Speaker 1: That's why he's kind of written off the list.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can.

522
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Speaker 1: I guess this is. This is your thing. We're not

523
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,480
going to hold you to it. It's not going to

524
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be associated with the US Army. Dude, have ad it.

525
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Speaker 2: That's just insane because could you imagine nowadays, like you know,

526
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,079
a like one of the officers from the military nowadays

527
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:03,440
saying like, hey, I'm just going to take off a

528
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,519
couple months and we're going to go fucking invade Canada

529
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and they're.

530
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Speaker 4: Like, all right, we'll keep you on salary. Yeah, it's

531
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off the record.

532
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Speaker 2: Joab will be waiting for you when you get back.

533
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Speaker 1: He also issued this proclamation on the Brotherhood's behalf. So

534
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,200
this is to Canada. We come among you as foes

535
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of British rule in Ireland. We have taken up the

536
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sword to strike down the oppressor's rod, to deliver Ireland

537
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from the tyrant. We have registered our oaths upon the

538
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altar of our country in the full view of Heaven,

539
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and sent out our vows to the throne of him

540
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who inspired them. Then, looking about us for an enemy,

541
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we find him here, here in your midst, where he

542
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is most vulnerable and convenient to our strength. We have

543
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no issue with the people of these provinces, in which

544
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,599
you have none but the most friendly relations. Our weapons

545
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are for the oppressors of Ireland. Our bows shall be

546
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directed only against the power of England. We do not

547
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,079
propose to divest you of a solitary right you now enjoy.

548
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,920
We are here neither as murderers nor robbers for plunder.

549
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000
We are here as the Irish Army of liberation. In

550
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:19,400
a word, our war is with the arm powers of England,

551
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not the people, not these provinces, against England. Upon land

552
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,759
and sea till Ireland is free. You ever hear about that?

553
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,599
That sounds very familiar. What do you mean, upon land

554
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,200
and sea till Ireland is free?

555
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: Is that an ira anything?

556
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: From the river to the sea. Oh okay, dog, Are

557
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,279
the Palestinians just ripping off the Irish?

558
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,559
Speaker 2: It seems like they might be.

559
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 4: Wait, so they that's there they sent a letter on

560
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horseback or something like.

561
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Speaker 1: They just sent a message just like as they're invade

562
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,839
in Canada, like hey, we're we're not here to like

563
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,880
fight Canadians. We're here to like go against the English military,

564
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:02,240
so just let us do our thing.

565
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: It's like nothing against you, but we're over your country.

566
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,240
That's crazy that they're sending that threat. Also because they

567
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,599
don't have a big army, like do we know what

568
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:12,359
their numbers are?

569
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Speaker 3: And they said they had bows. You know they're coming

570
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,160
in with bows.

571
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Speaker 1: Not actual bosky.

572
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: Good lucky they didn't have Like they're not fielding thousands

573
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,079
and thousands of troops, right, They've they've got to have.

574
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Speaker 1: That's just whoever signs up.

575
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: So they've got together like a few hundred or maybe

576
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,519
if drunk Irish dudes.

577
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like forty dudes.

578
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like nine hundred. It depends on the day.

579
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The Brotherhood had some early problems with organization and effectiveness.

580
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:55,480
Imagine that weird irishman trying Irish vets or you know,

581
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maybe not timely or have the best communication.

582
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:01,759
Speaker 2: It's hard to fight when you're constantly hungover.

583
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 1: In April, the Fenian staged to raid against Campobello Island

584
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,480
in New Brunswick. The extent of this was just damaged

585
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,240
to a few buildings, just set fire to some stuff,

586
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:15,240
ran through.

587
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: A couple of rocks, settled a few things on fire,

588
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,119
and then split. Yeah.

589
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, shut their bow and arrows as stone walls. They're

590
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,559
just like broken arrows on the ground. They had to

591
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,000
clean up a couple of beer cans.

592
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: In May eighteen sixty six, the Fenian plans fell apart

593
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,559
because fewer men then expected to join the forces. In Chicago, Cleveland,

594
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,759
and Buffalo and other locations, Fenian leaders weren't unable to

595
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:44,200
secure ships needed to transport their forces. Some American officials

596
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,119
at the border also intervened and made arrest, fearing an

597
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,359
international crisis.

598
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: But they had the permission of the president.

599
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but more local dudes on the border like what

600
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:01,160
the fuck you do? Go back or we're gonna you're

601
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,759
going to prison.

602
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,799
Speaker 3: What are you guys doing?

603
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: You had like forty drunk, irish guys stumbling across the

604
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,200
border like, oh, we're gonna get him, dude, go home.

605
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Told us we had permission.

606
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: Okay, sure thing, Patty, Now just go ahead and walk

607
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,960
back home.

608
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,839
Speaker 4: Sleep it off, Sleep it off Barcelon open until five.

609
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,599
Speaker 1: Finally, in June eighteen sixty six, they got their shit together.

610
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,480
One thousand heavily armed Fenians crossed the Niagara River from Buffalo,

611
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,960
New York. They were led by John O'Neill, a former

612
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,920
US Cavalry officer who served in Ohio and West Virginia

613
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,519
during the Civil War. The Fenians quickly captured the undefended

614
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,839
town of Fort Erie, along with its railway and telegraph terminals.

615
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Let me guess that was like the only territory they

616
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920
were actually able to take more or less.

617
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,119
Speaker 4: I wonder if that dude's related to Rob Rob's Irish

618
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,720
Rob O'Neil. He does have two l's, Dude, I wonder

619
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,519
if it actually is Probably the same clan.

620
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: They arrested the town council and the customs and border

621
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officials at the International Ferry Docks. They forced the town's

622
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,319
bakery and hotels to provide them with food.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: After cutting out telegraph lines, the insurgents seized horses and tools,

625
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:19,079
which they used to build trenches and fortifications.

626
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:20,839
Speaker 2: Shit.

627
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: They were within marching distance of the Well End Canal,

628
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,480
the only naval passage between Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.

629
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,079
Major General George T. C. Napier, the commander of the

630
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:38,160
British forces in Canada, jumped into action. Some twenty two

631
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:42,920
thousand militia volunteers were mobilized to respond toision, but they

632
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,759
were poorly trained and unprepared to combat the Fenians, because again,

633
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:51,519
the Fenians were like a bunch of like tough civil

634
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:55,240
war vets. They already got their trade. Yeah they've been

635
00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:01,039
in battle, these soft ass British Canadians. Some of them

636
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:02,480
had not shot their rifles.

637
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: Yet, Okay, I see, okay, so they got a chance.

638
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,279
Speaker 2: So the Canadian side, what I was reading earlier, the

639
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,640
Canadian side was also like much more well armed. But

640
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,680
still I mean you.

641
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: Did guns y, Yeah, they were.

642
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Using muskets instead of bows, some of them were. Even

643
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,599
some of the Canadians were even packing the spencer repeating rifles,

644
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,759
so like the old school lever action rifle.

645
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

646
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even with superior numbers, experience definitely trumpsaul. I mean,

647
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,839
twenty two thousand against a thousand, that's stretching it quite

648
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,640
a bit, but it's it still means a lot to

649
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,039
have that battle experience.

650
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: They also had like a scarce supply of ammunition, yeah,

651
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,799
I read.

652
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: The guys that were issued the Spencer rifles never got

653
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,720
to shoot any of them because they didn't have enough

654
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,759
ammunition to train. And they got twenty eight bullets each. Shit,

655
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,279
I mean going into battle.

656
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,319
Speaker 3: With twenty getting from us.

657
00:30:59,359 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Make them count?

658
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better make them count.

659
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,359
Speaker 1: That's my favorite bit of Archer is where he's just

660
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,640
constantly counting how many people or how many shots are

661
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,440
going off? Oh, how many rounds they have left?

662
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: I love that show.

663
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,279
Speaker 1: They had no food or field kitchens, no proper maps,

664
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:18,599
no provisions for medical care, no canteens for water, and

665
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,279
no tools for the proper care of their rifles. So

666
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:26,200
a bunch of like Canadian British loyalists go out with

667
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,920
their rifles and I guess that's it. Like, Oh, I

668
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,039
guess we'll take care of this pretty quick. We'll squash it.

669
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,519
On June, second, Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Booker was ordered to

670
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,680
move his troops to Fort Erie. Booker found seven hundred

671
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720
and fifty to eight hundred Fenians at Ridgeway and deployed

672
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,519
his men despite his orders to avoid contact. In the

673
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,599
first hour of the battle, the Canadians appeared to prevail,

674
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,519
driving Fenian skirmishers from their positions, but then something went wrong.

675
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Canadian militia men mistook Fenian scouts on horseback for cavalry.

676
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,359
They were ordered to form a square designed to defend

677
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,079
against a cavalry charge. Oh. This exposed the Canadians to

678
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,680
intense Fenian fire.

679
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: Dude, the Canadians are fucking blowing it. How do you

680
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,079
have an advantage that strong and fuck it up that bad?

681
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,319
Speaker 3: Wait, what's happening?

682
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: So they think a cavalry is gonna come in and

683
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,759
charge them, but they're still doing like old school tactics

684
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,400
where they're like, get get into formation and get ready

685
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,680
for a fucking cavalry charge. So they get all tight,

686
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,319
and the Phoenians are just like, oh I can hit

687
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,799
like multiple people at once.

688
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shooting fish in a barrel at that point.

689
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I see, I see what's happening.

690
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,799
Speaker 1: All things considered, you know it's not the biggest battle.

691
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,720
Nine Canadians are killed, thirty two are wounded. The Fenians

692
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:52,799
lose ten men with an unknown number of wounded. They

693
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,920
quickly turned back to fort Erie, and later that day

694
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,759
the steamship WT Rob lands at Fort Erie. A fierce

695
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,559
skirmish breaks out. Six more Canadians were injured and thirty

696
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,680
six were taken prisoner. The Indians lost nine men with

697
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:13,200
fourteen wounded. Shortly afterwards, other Canadian troops and elements of

698
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,160
the British sixteenth and forty seventh Regiments arrived. John O'Neill

699
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:21,079
was forced to withdraw his forces back to the United States.

700
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Speaker 2: She it was a good try.

701
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: They took an undefended town, so that's cool.

702
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they fared pretty well considering nine Yeah,

703
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:32,440
I would think the body count would be a whole

704
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,160
lot higher than that.

705
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Lots of wounded, but only that with a lot of

706
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:41,000
battles throughout history, did they just not that big? But

707
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:42,960
like World War One, World War two kind of like

708
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,079
distorts our brain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the costly wars in history.

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Speaker 1: Or like any unknown Chinese war ever that happened throughout history.

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Those numbers are crazy, but nobody cares.

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Speaker 3: About those casualties. Not a death. Casualty is a wounded

713
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person too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of that could be coming from disease also,

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because I mean they're washing walking around with unwashed asses,

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and you get a scratch, you're gonna get sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, five days after the start of the invasion, US

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President Andrew Johnson issued a proclamation requiring enforcement of the

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neutrality laws, guaranteeing the Fenian invasion could no longer continue.

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Speaker 2: Probably should have done that in the first place, if

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he actually cared about it.

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Speaker 4: They wanted them to win. He gave him a shot.

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They're lost. So he's like, all right, I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta yeah, they had to retreat, So gotta say, yes,

725
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you have to like. That wasn't us. That was just

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some crazy, fucking irishmen, you know how they are.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that they were planning to do that.

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I am so sorry. I am so so sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Johnson know about the Lincoln assassination? Was

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he in on it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's a good question, but I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't really looked into it. I'm just I'm just I'm

734
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just asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Guys might have been friends with Wilkes Booth.

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Speaker 4: This feels a lot like nine to eleven to me,

737
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you know, like they knew it was coming but didn't

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do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see see how it plays out and then we'll

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react afterwards.

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Speaker 1: It was they in the scenario, who knew about that exactly? Now?

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General You'll sees S. Grant and General George Mead went

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to Buffalo, New York to inspect the situation. Following instructions

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from Grant, Mead issued strict orders to prevent anyone from

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violet in the border. The US Army was then instructed

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to seize all Fenian weapons and ammunition and prevent more

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border crossings. Further instructions on June seventh were to arrest

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anyone who appeared to be Fenian, so on site, just

749
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a little profiling nobody.

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Speaker 2: They're just arresting every irishman they.

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Speaker 1: See, anybody with red hair, freckles.

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Speaker 2: And accent and whiskey on their breath.

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Speaker 1: When John O'Neill and his forces returned, they were all detained,

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though O'Neill was later pardoned. It's kind of a wink

755
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wink situation like ours, bro, Like we have to for optics.

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You need to go to prison, brother.

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Speaker 2: But then they just let him out right away. I

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wonder what kind of sentencing the rest of the people

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were facing. I mean, like, are they spending twenty years

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in prison for this shit?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, okay good, I think it's all

762
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slap on the wrist. You can just do whatever. Our

763
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first episode of this show was about William Walker who

764
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,480
literally just went with forty bros. To Nicaragua from Tennessee

765
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and just became king.

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Speaker 3: Oh I heard about that. That's fucking sick.

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Speaker 2: I really miss those days. Man. We got to bring

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that kind of shit back.

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Speaker 1: The eighteen hundreds were wild. You could just do whatever

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you wanted. Foreign policy did not exist.

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Speaker 2: And apparently you could just get kind of like implied

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permission from the president to invade another country.

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Speaker 1: You could just get a meeting with the president.

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

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00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: Now, that's just crazy.

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Speaker 4: Trump would probably let you do that if you asked him.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a bunch of

778
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,880
dudes to take over Cuba and I'm just gonna go

779
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,960
have a meeting with President Trump. That that's insane.

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Speaker 4: If Elon had like a thousand dudes with guns and

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he was like, Hey, I'm gonna go take over Cuba,

782
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just keep it on the down though, he'd be like,

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I'm not giving you permission, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll look the other way, Yeah, I'll look the other way.

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Speaker 1: The Fenians struck again a few days later, after the

787
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Battle of Ridgeway on June eighth, two hundred of them

788
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across the frontier near Huntington, to the south of Montreal.

789
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The Canadians managed to catch and defeat the Fenians at

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Pigeon Hill.

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Speaker 4: Wait, after they were told not to do it, they

792
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went back, and they went back.

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Speaker 3: I love him now.

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Speaker 1: That ended this round of attacks, despite facing a number

795
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of setbacks. The Fenians tried again to invade Canada in

796
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eighteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Wait, so this is the third time that

798
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,760
they've tried it now, right, Yeah? Man, they just can't

799
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,480
learn their lesson.

800
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: And it's this fucking dude, John O'Neill. I wonder if

801
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,239
he is.

802
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 2: The I who got arrested and sent to prison temporarily

803
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,559
got out and just started doing the same shit over here.

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00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 3: I guess he's passionate dud.

805
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him.

806
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,599
Speaker 1: He was proclaimed a hero after Ridgeway and was appointed

807
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,679
Inspector General of the Fenian forces. On May twenty fifth,

808
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,719
eighteen seventy, he left Vermont for Quebec with six hundred Fenians.

809
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,559
The Fenians were defeated in a short sharp action, losing

810
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:27,360
five men and eighteen wounded. There were no losses for

811
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,239
the Canadians. So between oh no, between the first invasions

812
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,320
in like sixty six, there's this like four year gap,

813
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,119
three four year gap where the Canadians are like, we

814
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need to get our fucking shit together with our army

815
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,119
because it's embarrassing. And so they do, and this galvanized

816
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the Canadian forces and actually Canada as a country no shit,

817
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,239
and a lot of people do credit kind of like

818
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this being the birth of Canada, like true Canada.

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Speaker 3: Because they like united because of it.

820
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: The fucking Canadians, the Canucks unite over these goddamn Irish

821
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Americans invading their land. It creates a sense of actual

822
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:13,079
nationalism within Canada. They kind of separate themselves from the

823
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:17,000
crown' like now, dude, this is our land.

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Speaker 3: This is Canada's nine eleven, It.

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Speaker 1: Is Saint Patty's Day. As this episode comes out, and

826
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this is supposed to be about Irish independence and everything,

827
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but it ironically leads to Canadian independence.

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Speaker 2: That's insane.

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943
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,400
all like throughout history.

944
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: But why do they want to go to Canada Because

945
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,280
that's what that's where they're there's still.

946
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: A British forces.

947
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: It's sort of but if it's separate countries and they're

948
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,079
not fucking with America anymore, like.

949
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: Canada is the British still at this point.

950
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'd pretty much be like taking somebody's family

951
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,599
member hostage for negotiating leverage, like they're taking a cousin

952
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:56,280
hostage to be like, all right, I'm gonna kill your

953
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,719
cousin unless you're give me my house back.

954
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: They also think if they can take parts of Canada,

955
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,599
the British forces will come over, kind of divert their

956
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,000
strength over in Ireland and leave them vulnerable for a

957
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,079
rebellion or attack in Ireland.

958
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,199
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean overall, it's if they could pull it off,

959
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,519
it's not a terrible plan.

960
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: Two days later, another group of Fenians across the border

961
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,400
into Quebec at Trout River. The Fenians were sent backpacking

962
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,519
across the border. Again, there were no Canadian casualties, so

963
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:26,199
Canadians really stepped their game up.

964
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got their shit together and that was over.

965
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:31,280
So this has been going on for like five years.

966
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Five years.

967
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: I wish that was still going on.

968
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: There's still just random there was.

969
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 3: Obsessed with this shit. It was like fighting Canada.

970
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,039
Speaker 4: Sometimes we'd wonder if he's coming back or not, and

971
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:44,400
it was just like normal, just.

972
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: An Irish mercenary group.

973
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: We were always just kind of fighting with Canada.

974
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: The final act by the Fenians came in October of

975
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,440
eighteen seventy one. O'Neill cross the Manitoba border at Emerson.

976
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:02,519
He and forty men took over a customs office. The

977
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:07,199
next day, soldiers from Winnipeg and Saint Boniface were marching

978
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,840
to meet the invaders when they learned that the US

979
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,760
Army had already gone in and arrested O'Neill and his men.

980
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:17,719
Oh shit, this time the Fenian threat for good. O'Neill

981
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,239
was arrested twice, but was released and never charged for

982
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:27,239
invading other territory outside of the US. The men captured

983
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,039
with him were released by the court simply being dupes

984
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:31,559
of O'Neill.

985
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: Dude, they they got away with invading another nation multiple

986
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960
times after being told not to do it and being

987
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,440
arrested and nothing happened, and then they still don't get

988
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,039
in trouble.

989
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: For that's fucking awesome.

990
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: This should have never stopped, you know, like different cultures have,

991
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:54,840
like coming of age ceremonies or whatever. Americans don't have one.

992
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,840
This was supposed to be it. This would be like

993
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,199
they turned at eighteen or sixteen. You go in and

994
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000
invade Canada, you get your ass kicked or you kick

995
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:03,880
some ass, you come back and you're like you're a

996
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,320
man now.

997
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: The Irish kenson yra is invading Canada exactly.

998
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'd be sick. Should have been the way

999
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,199
it was.

1000
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: At least treat it like the Olympics, right, every four years,

1001
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,280
we just go in.

1002
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Every four years we have iris.

1003
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 3: Course, yeah we can't agree.

1004
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,199
Speaker 4: We'll use like we'll use those shotguns that shoot the sandbags. Okay,

1005
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,159
no deaths, but we're gonna fucking beat each other up

1006
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,199
and whoever wins gets that like area for like a year.

1007
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:30,079
In the next year you fight for it again and

1008
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:31,719
you can keep moving territory over.

1009
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,159
Speaker 2: That would be so down for that.

1010
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. There's not more beef. But it makes

1011
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:39,880
sense because a lot of the immigrants from Ireland when

1012
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,239
they came over from obviously the famines, a lot of

1013
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,960
them stayed in Canada really, so you would have thought

1014
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,519
they could have turned some people in Canada on their

1015
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,519
behalf or on their side. But yeah, a lot of

1016
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:53,519
them couldn't afford to come to the US, so they

1017
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:55,360
went to Canada.

1018
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:57,559
Speaker 3: They must have not looked cool. They must have looked

1019
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:58,760
like shit, because if they.

1020
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Look cool, nobody liked the arts. Then they were lower

1021
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,599
than slaves.

1022
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,039
Speaker 3: Like that's what it is. Yeah, slaves were.

1023
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean this was obviously after the Civil War, but

1024
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:11,440
before then, slaves were more valuable because they were expensive.

1025
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,159
You could pay a fucking irishman though, to dig a

1026
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:18,639
trench for a penny a day, like less than that, probably,

1027
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880
so he was expendable. If he dies, he died, who cares.

1028
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: He's just Irish.

1029
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,639
Speaker 1: He's just Irish. We were the original Mexicans.

1030
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like the Irish or the Jews of

1031
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:28,760
the West.

1032
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: I think the Jews are still the Jews of the West.

1033
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: For Saint Patrick's Day, we're talking about how they got

1034
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:35,239
their asses kicked.

1035
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: That Canadian.

1036
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:41,599
Speaker 1: Dude, you should have talked about me and my Irish heritage,

1037
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:49,000
you fucking mix goddamn patties, Potato Chuck and bitches.

1038
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,599
Speaker 4: Coople was talking about something I didn't know that the

1039
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,599
Canadians are badass, Like we all big fun of them

1040
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,840
and like talk about how they're just like these little

1041
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,159
fucking forest nerds. But like every story I've been hearing

1042
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,079
that's actually real.

1043
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 3: They just like kick.

1044
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,519
Speaker 2: Ass up until recently the Canadian military was I mean,

1045
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:10,039
they were fucking monsters.

1046
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: Well that you told it on Crime Corner.

1047
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,559
Speaker 4: You told the story like how they got pissed off

1048
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:17,920
and they're like the super badass team that they made

1049
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,320
or something that killed a bunch of people.

1050
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,559
Speaker 1: One of our better episodes was with Coope. It was

1051
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:26,039
about Leo Major. Oh, Leo Major, they're Canadian World War two,

1052
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:30,039
just war God took over a bunch of towns by himself.

1053
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, single handedly took over an entire.

1054
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Town committed of war crimes and yeah we said that,

1055
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,400
but that's bad, and they got really mad about it.

1056
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Canadians don't like the show either.

1057
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Well that's well, they is up because we're pointing out

1058
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:46,199
the fact they have a history of committing a lot

1059
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,440
of war crimes. Like they're a huge inspiration for the

1060
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,480
Geneva Conventions because of the way they acted in World

1061
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:50,920
War One.

1062
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: Can't wave a white flag, that's car is that the

1063
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,079
guy with the way and then just start shooting them out.

1064
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,679
Speaker 2: Yes you again, that's Leo Major.

1065
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: Yes you can. Then he did.

1066
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know how the old saying goes, it's

1067
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,360
not a war crime the first time.

1068
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: Do what if Canada just starts invading us and they're

1069
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,039
just still bad ass, and they just whoop our ass?

1070
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,679
Speaker 1: They can't because we're on our own soils.

1071
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: We can't just nuke them. They miss their opportunity.

1072
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: They don't like whenever, you know, the weather balloons that whenever,

1073
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:19,039
both the US and Canada, like a year ago, two

1074
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,400
years ago, we had to shoot them down because Canada's

1075
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,360
air force is ass.

1076
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't even shoot down a fucking balloon.

1077
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:29,679
Speaker 4: Probably not shooting them down because we were like trying

1078
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:31,800
to hack back. We're like trying to hack it to

1079
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,840
get to see who did it.

1080
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Was an excuse, Yeah, it was just said. We kept

1081
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,519
saying it was hobbyist. Is a hobbyist balloon.

1082
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,119
Speaker 2: It's a big ass hobby balloon. Isn't that thing like

1083
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:42,440
the size of an SUV costs or some ship.

1084
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Canadians are gonna fuck us up.

1085
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,119
Speaker 1: I just whenever I think Canada, I think of letter canny.

1086
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:50,159
That's okay, that.

1087
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: Kind of Canadian I can get behind that's just the

1088
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,599
redneck of the north there. And I definitely have a

1089
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:56,880
soft spot in my heart for red.

1090
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: The Canada mostly Canna is a bunch of rednecks.

1091
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,639
Speaker 4: Maybe Canada a couple of times. I've been there, but

1092
00:52:01,679 --> 00:52:04,760
I've only been to Vancouver. But just my culture tells

1093
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,800
me I hate Canada and I hate French people, and

1094
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,440
I don't know why.

1095
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: Whenever we play hockey against Canada, I start to ramp

1096
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,280
up my hatred for Canada because they always beat us.

1097
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: But didn't we win that one?

1098
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,559
Speaker 1: We lost the championship, but we won that first one.

1099
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: That doesn't we beat them up? Right?

1100
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,559
Speaker 1: Who cares if you win the first one and lose

1101
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:25,239
the championship.

1102
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: What matters to me is the fights. Did we win

1103
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:27,760
the fights?

1104
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Couple? I think we lost the fight.

1105
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Canada.

1106
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: Canadians are badass, dude, I think they are. We're in denial, dude.

1107
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,519
That's why it's not America, because they're just like, fuck

1108
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:38,960
you guys.

1109
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:40,159
Speaker 1: Their government's ass.

1110
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that so is ours.

1111
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:44,679
Speaker 1: There's there's worse.

1112
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's this real bad Trudeau.

1113
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think most Canadians would agree with that.

1114
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the good ones at least listen to this show.

1115
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and that was the Fenian raids, the Fenian Brotherhood. O'Neill,

1116
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:04,119
you know, didn't really have to answer for any of

1117
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:05,840
his fucking war crimes.

1118
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 4: I guess retired happy, married a Canadian, had kids.

1119
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he married a Canadian.

1120
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,159
Speaker 2: But just for even Canadians, they're not going to marry

1121
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:15,760
an irishman.

1122
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Roberts went on, I believe to serve in US politics,

1123
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,960
there was a Fenian Brotherhood kind of revolt in Ireland

1124
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,960
in sixty seven. I believe. I think that kind of

1125
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,880
gets squashed again because they don't get independence until I

1126
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,320
think the twenties, nineteen twenties.

1127
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember. I know that it was, I

1128
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,079
mean the grand scheme of things fairly recent.

1129
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: So what actually ends up happening in the long run

1130
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,920
for these Irish people, and.

1131
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,639
Speaker 1: The treaty happened in the nineteen twenty one Irish Free State,

1132
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,880
self governing twenty one twenty two.

1133
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,199
Speaker 2: They got it eventually, but it was through diplomacy that time,

1134
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,519
wasn't it not through straight up war.

1135
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:02,559
Speaker 1: Combination of Irish War of Independence was nineteen nineteen to

1136
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,880
nineteen twenty one, So oh okay, imagine it was a

1137
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,760
gorilla war. Maybe there was dead on that was over

1138
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,480
there in Ireland.

1139
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: Now, oddly enough, they fought that in Canada too.

1140
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 1: Canada just becomes where everyone meets.

1141
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: Everybody just goes here to do wars, a.

1142
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: Neutral cot game. We should, honestly, dude, clear out some

1143
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,360
piece of shit land and just have all your wars

1144
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,199
there so we don't like upset or crater a bunch

1145
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:32,960
of like history.

1146
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,639
Speaker 2: Dude, it's like a global war arena somewhere. I mean,

1147
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:37,639
just clear out like a big part of Central Africa or.

1148
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: Something like what are we doing with Mongolia right now?

1149
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Nothing? There's a whole lot of open space out there.

1150
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: But if we just start moving the border like an

1151
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,559
inch a day without saying anything, like put all the

1152
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:50,639
buildings at the borderline and stuff, and just like move

1153
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,000
it a little bit, and after like a year, like wait,

1154
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:54,760
you're like four feet closer.

1155
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,039
Speaker 2: That's that's where it's always been.

1156
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,039
Speaker 4: Just keep moving it over and over and over until

1157
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:00,000
Canada has to attend.

1158
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: I guess.

1159
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a fucking new neighbor rebuilding the fence.

1160
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, close like that.

1161
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: You just keep kind of keep doing that generation by generation.

1162
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,039
Speaker 1: What you're talking about, like, no, that tree is on

1163
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:14,840
my side of the fence.

1164
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: It always has been.

1165
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are my oranges.

1166
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,639
Speaker 4: A couple hundred years and they'll just all be the

1167
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,320
United States. Canada will be like a beach town, just

1168
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,000
the Yukon.

1169
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: We will give them that you have that, we don't

1170
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:32,280
want that. That's Grossland. So yeah, fucking Ireland gets their

1171
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,079
independence in the twenties. This whole thing kind of galvanizes

1172
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,400
Canada to want their own sovereignty. They kind of get

1173
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,280
the wheels in motion and have their own national kind

1174
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,920
of pride after this, and you can really thank the

1175
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,000
Irish for Canada.

1176
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: I think that would be the that would be the

1177
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:52,760
lesson to take away from this episode is if if

1178
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,679
you're in Canada, you need to be more grateful for

1179
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,480
the Irish.

1180
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: An irishman, Yeah, the Irish made you tough, Okay.

1181
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,679
Speaker 1: They uh kind of put you to the test.

1182
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: They should have fucked more ship up when they were

1183
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,039
over there. I feel like they only got nine kills.

1184
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: We got Lake Erie, yeah, which for like a couple

1185
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:11,840
of days.

1186
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: I think they were too nice in their missage the Irish.

1187
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,039
Speaker 1: There were not conquerors. We're not good at that.

1188
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not historically.

1189
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have like tortured and raped the women.

1190
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 4: They should have killed all the kids when they got

1191
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,159
in there.

1192
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,199
Speaker 2: That's maybe that's taking it a little too far.

1193
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: No, dude, you got to show them, like, if you

1194
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:31,519
don't give us our freedom, we're gonna kill everybody.

1195
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:33,679
Speaker 1: Now. That's not to say the Irish aren't good warriors

1196
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,559
though they fought off the Vikings and like they hunters

1197
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:36,280
nine hundreds.

1198
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: They're good fighters, just not good organizers.

1199
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: Not good organizers and also just lazy. Maybe they don't

1200
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,159
have the will or want to expand.

1201
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 3: What's the point.

1202
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, what you're gonna be good at war?

1203
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,159
Speaker 3: Just good?

1204
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: Right?

1205
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,079
Speaker 2: Okay?

1206
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:58,199
Speaker 1: What about being a colonial power? Ireland will never Yeah,

1207
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,519
they're just good with what they had.

1208
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,639
Speaker 4: Just take their beard whiskey away and they'll they'll fucking murder.

1209
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,639
Speaker 2: Oh, they'll take over the world to get that ship back.

1210
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're peaceful people.

1211
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,199
Speaker 2: I guess.

1212
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: We have no wants or desires. It's the irishman's dilemma.

1213
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 2: Just just give us some booze and place to sleep

1214
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,559
and we're happy. What is it?

1215
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Uh? From Archer? Not just to kind of go back

1216
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,119
to that she's like Maloy. Archer's quote is, uh, the

1217
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:26,000
irishman's dilemma is do I eat the potato now or

1218
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:26,840
wait for it to.

1219
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:35,559
Speaker 4: What's the coolest shit Irish people have done? Lepracauns, you

1220
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,559
Lucky Charms.

1221
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,639
Speaker 1: I don't even think they want to own Leprecauns.

1222
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Lucky Charms are pretty good. I'd say that's

1223
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,880
probably like the best export from Ireland.

1224
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:52,559
Speaker 1: Color even defend the featherweight belt. No, he just bailed,

1225
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,599
or the lightweight belt for that matter.

1226
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: He's shit.

1227
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think they're sock. Team's never good either.

1228
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: Irish people play soccer.

1229
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,719
Speaker 4: What's the coolest shit Irish people have done? Do you

1230
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:10,719
guys know or no? I don't think we gotta say

1231
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,280
something positive about him. For the same time, they haven't

1232
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:13,760
done much?

1233
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,599
Speaker 1: Is our whole point?

1234
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the lesson of the episode.

1235
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,199
Speaker 1: And that's gonna upset more Irish people. They're gonna revoke

1236
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:24,440
my Irish card. I feel like I'm allowed to talk.

1237
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: I already took it, can't take it a second time.

1238
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:28,519
Speaker 3: All Right, They've got to have done some cool shit,

1239
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:28,920
like I.

1240
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: Top Irish inventions.

1241
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: Here we go this is what I'm talking about. Guinness. Okay,

1242
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,239
they made Guinness.

1243
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,199
Speaker 2: That's what's listed as one of the top Irish inventions.

1244
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,559
Speaker 3: Yes, great beer.

1245
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's a real though, because

1246
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,400
like AI's been real ass lately.

1247
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: That's the only ball, that's the only beer that has

1248
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,559
that like ball inside it.

1249
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's d I guess that's a

1250
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:54,199
flex apparently, if you haven't done anything else.

1251
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,679
Speaker 1: They invented color photography in eighteen ninety four. Huh did

1252
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:02,400
that not just hatch? Must have been bad color photography

1253
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,800
because we didn't use that shit.

1254
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: They invented color much later.

1255
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, color in general.

1256
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 4: Being able to take a photo in color, that's actually badass.

1257
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,719
Speaker 1: Apparently, or was that eighteen ninety four? But we didn't

1258
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,440
When was that actually commonplace in photography? Probably not till

1259
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,480
the sixties.

1260
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:21,679
Speaker 4: I have no idea when like the photography I don't

1261
00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:25,639
even remember, Like color TVs happened in like nineteen sixty fifty.

1262
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:32,039
Speaker 1: Techno color, Yeah, they created the.

1263
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:36,519
Speaker 3: Nothing really cool yet they haven't done shit.

1264
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Apparently. The ejector seat Okay, that's badass.

1265
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's all right, not as cool as color photography.

1266
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:49,079
Speaker 3: Dude, ejector seats. Fucking insane of course.

1267
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,199
Speaker 1: Oh dude, they're still in Valor here. They said the

1268
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:54,480
submarine submarine is invented in like the sixteen hundreds by

1269
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:55,840
like a Danish, dude.

1270
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't weren't I thought somebody during so like the civil

1271
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,719
or the Revolutionary War. I thought it was invented here

1272
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:05,119
in America.

1273
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,039
Speaker 1: It was invented before that. It was over in like

1274
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:11,039
it was either Denmark or one of the Nordic countries.

1275
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,719
Speaker 2: No shit, yeah, who invented fucking Irish trying to steal

1276
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,360
credit for it?

1277
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: Always, dude, just fucking putting.

1278
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: I hadn't really done anything except these slaves and lose

1279
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,639
at war.

1280
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: We're really good at being like indentured.

1281
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,719
Speaker 2: Servants and really good at getting shipped on.

1282
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,079
Speaker 1: I'm sorry a Dutch, he's Dutch. Yeah, Cornelius Drebbel invented

1283
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,719
the submarine technically in sixteen twenty, which is insane, damn.

1284
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: And when did they say they invented it?

1285
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 5: Eighteen seventy eight, nineteen eighty six, maybe the modern Maybe

1286
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
they had no idea about them, so they did technically

1287
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:48,199
invent it for themselves without any influence, right, so that

1288
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:49,519
would count still.

1289
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,119
Speaker 1: Their claiming they invented flavored potato chips.

1290
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, if it has anything to do with potatoes, I

1291
01:00:55,199 --> 01:00:56,760
can believe the Irish had a hand in it.

1292
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: That's the top ten invention from Ireland, flavored potatoes, not

1293
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,079
even a real potato chips. But we threw on like.

1294
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: They've been so the Irish didn't even invent the fucking

1295
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,719
potato chip. Oh man, I'm disappointed in my hair.

1296
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: Has aland gone to space.

1297
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: No, there's no way Ireland has a space program.

1298
01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: That was something I looked up because my wife's from

1299
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:26,840
Czech Republic, and uh, the fourth person to ever go

1300
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,159
into space was a check personally that things are.

1301
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: Proud part of the Russian space program.

1302
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't know which one it was, but yeah, sure

1303
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,280
it was the fourth person to go into space or

1304
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,159
land on them or stand on the moon or something

1305
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:42,199
like that was a check person. You know that Trump's

1306
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:43,320
ex wife is Check.

1307
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,079
Speaker 2: I thought she was, wait she are you sure?

1308
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent sure, it's's Check. Milania is Slavic,

1309
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,400
but she's not Check. But before Milania, he dated it.

1310
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,559
Speaker 3: He married a chechwoman.

1311
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I was I was singing that.

1312
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, she died in like two years ago or or something.

1313
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, there's a lot of stolen valor here with

1314
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:11,079
their what they claim were their own inventions that rock

1315
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:15,119
the world. These are just just wrong. They're saying they

1316
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:16,519
invented chemistry. That's wrong.

1317
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:24,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like cool, Like what's the what's the top

1318
01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:25,880
ten things they've ever done?

1319
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: The scale? Cool? Dude, fucking they're saying transformers. I don't

1320
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,559
see Optimus Prime here.

1321
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't it be optimist o Prime?

1322
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: Beer manufacturing with Guinness? All right, maybe that's cool. That

1323
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:48,039
would be actually their coole thing, just manufacturing beer.

1324
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,599
Speaker 2: Guinness is the only invention of the Irish.

1325
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:52,039
Speaker 1: It seems that way.

1326
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,079
Speaker 2: Because some of those they have to be they have

1327
01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:59,360
to be taking credit for inventions that were like created

1328
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,159
in other country trees by somebody who has Irish heritage,

1329
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:03,360
like an Irish American guy.

1330
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: They're claiming the submarine, but again, I just disproved you

1331
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:07,719
Drebble did that first.

1332
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, where the where the hell are they getting that from?

1333
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,239
Speaker 1: I guess modern submarine.

1334
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: Well, they're they're actually kind of fucked. I searched what

1335
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,079
is the coolest thing that the Irish have ever done?

1336
01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:25,519
And it's like the Irish have some cool writers and

1337
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:26,239
made music.

1338
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:31,119
Speaker 1: I guess I'll give them James Joyce color photography. I'll

1339
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:32,559
give them that.

1340
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

1341
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing really else. You know, we're too busy. We're

1342
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,360
too busy here.

1343
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,599
Speaker 4: In eighteen three man submarine called the Fenian Ram was launched,

1344
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,800
which could dive to the depth of forty five feet.

1345
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,000
I can swim that fart out. You can do that

1346
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:56,320
with a bucket in a in a cinder block.

1347
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: They're saying the first dude, that's when Adam was Irish.

1348
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: There you go.

1349
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I'm not gonna just

1350
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:10,079
continue reading off Google though. Boys, thanks for joining me.

1351
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,239
Speaker 2: Happy to be here. Yeah, thanks for having us.

1352
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:16,079
Speaker 1: In my time. If need Rob was not here instead,

1353
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:16,840
I carried the show.

1354
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: God you did great.

1355
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:23,239
Speaker 1: Two great guys, two great guests, and uh yeah, we

1356
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,880
powered through. We got to the the source of what

1357
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,599
made Canada. We learned the Irish aren't great at really

1358
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:33,280
much anything.

1359
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:39,719
Speaker 3: Last thing I read, I know, but surfing apparently there's.

1360
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:42,679
Speaker 2: No way, no, there's no way in hell. That came

1361
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:45,079
straight out of Hawaii. They've been doing that for like

1362
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:45,719
thousands of.

1363
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's even getting in the water. In Ireland.

1364
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 4: They were surfing for a while, and uh, you're just

1365
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,280
gonna bash your best surfing is in Ireland.

1366
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: Jagged rocks.

1367
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: There's no way that's what it says.

1368
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,199
Speaker 4: Due to the rugged coastline along the Atlantic Ocean, it's

1369
01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:01,239
like the perfect place for surfing.

1370
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:04,519
Speaker 1: I'm not giving them credit.

1371
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: And irishmen designed the White House.

1372
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, whose today's hitler? Joel to the Irish,

1373
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,360
the Irish in general, Ireland as a country. Uh yeah,

1374
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,079
he never deserved independence. I guess, uh, you need to

1375
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,880
go back to being indentured servants. Well, as you guys

1376
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,559
want to give you my card back, I'll gladly accept

1377
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:31,400
being Irish again. But until then my English will come out.

1378
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:35,199
Speaker 2: And I think the real hitler of this episode, well

1379
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:38,119
it's always Canada. Now the what was his name? Robert's

1380
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:41,480
the guy who forced out O Mahoney. I think that's

1381
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:50,039
that's the real hitler of this episode. Like that, let

1382
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:51,239
O Mahoney stay in charge.

1383
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Mahoney was old news. He was old hat. All right, boys. Uh,

1384
01:05:58,039 --> 01:05:59,800
do you guys want to plug anything anything you want to.

1385
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to plug the fact that three irishmen

1386
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:04,519
signed the Declaration of Independence.

1387
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got that going for us.

1388
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,079
Speaker 3: Who an Irishman composed?

1389
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:10,599
Speaker 1: Uh?

1390
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: Who are the Irish the initial tune for the Star

1391
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,039
Spangled Banner?

1392
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:16,039
Speaker 1: No?

1393
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: No, their music, dude, not bad. Still hasn't invented anything yet.

1394
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:22,239
Speaker 1: No, we're not going to find it. You see her

1395
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:27,519
all day. It won't happen anyway. For Joel Benner, Matt Cooper.

1396
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,960
I'm Damna Jester and you just got Officer