Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.
Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom.
Speaker 3: Squatching Holler's gotta tail.
Speaker 2: The show wisps.
Speaker 3: Creep like a creature's fained out.
Speaker 2: Every shadows got a secret to grow?
Speaker 3: Monsters rise?
Speaker 2: Where the stories are told?
Speaker 4: Squatching Hollow, Where the legends are born?
Speaker 3: Are they?
Speaker 5: Are they gone?
Speaker 4: Who can say?
Speaker 6: In the hollow of the truth, your slips, huge foot
prints fade where the creek runs than a lantern sways.
Speaker 5: Let the search beak rustling waves, but there's no one near.
Speaker 2: Is it the wind or the beast?
Speaker 1: You fear?
Speaker 2: Everyhere goes question?
Speaker 5: Every Russell's a clue.
Speaker 2: Swatching Holly's got its eyes on you.
Speaker 4: Monsters stories are torn?
Speaker 5: Swatching Hollow, Where the legends are born?
Speaker 2: Are they? Are they called? Who can say?
Speaker 6: You not say?
Speaker 7: And now you're Squatching Holler. Hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers,
and Ashley Rams. Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere
great podcasts are found. And now the show.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, he.
Speaker 8: He, Hello, I'm.
Speaker 3: Doing pretty good.
Speaker 9: I won't complain because what o'd lou hopes you used
to say, You've complained to people. Ninety percent of people
don't care. The other ten percent are glad that you
so true. But yeah, everybody, you know, you get older
and if you just feel lucky to be here, you
hadn't reached that point yet.
Speaker 8: So you're there getting there.
Speaker 3: Thank everybody for being here.
Speaker 9: We've I don't know how many episodes this is here now,
but on our phone forty five.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we are on episode no episode.
Speaker 3: For forty six. I forgot that, sir.
Speaker 9: So Actually we've got part two with Bama on the thumbnail,
but it's probably really like part five or so because
he's he's he's got the record for being.
Speaker 3: Being on Squatch and holler the most.
Speaker 9: But and what's what's cool about getting to know people
we went to there'll be all the meet and great
and you know there's one hundred something people there and
nobody was talking about Bigfoot, you know, nobody. We all
get to know each talk about, ask how everybody's doing,
and it's just a great time. And of course Bama,
you know, that's where he got, you know, some of
his first taste of some weirdness, and we'll.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about weird stuff tonight.
Speaker 9: And there's so many things we can talk about we
have to pick and choose for different shows.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: And there's some people like, oh, that's a bunch of crap,
but you talk. What they don't realize is us three,
you included Amanda, have seen and had weird stuff happened
while we're doing other things, and yeah, we're just trying
to figure out what it is or just you know,
tell people what we've experienced.
Speaker 3: So let's bring mister baman. Oh my god, y'all, Oh
my god, Oh he kept out a secret.
Speaker 8: You did not tell me you were bringing that out
the tenfoil tonight, sir, or I would have had mine.
Speaker 2: I figured we were h probably be talking about some
weird stuff. I figured I better put my ten full
hat on for a minute.
Speaker 3: You look like I heard she's kids.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you what. In about the thirty
seconds it took me and killed to make this, we
just kind of pulled some full out and you know,
kind of whip it off and it wouldn't even go
all the way around my head. So you know, I've
even got a kind of a gaff in there in
the backs like this, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's interfering with your signal. All blurry on us. Now, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to. I didn't want anything you know, reading
my brain waves or you know, anything along that line.
Speaker 9: But well, yeah, well you know with your with your
former job and me, uh growing up on the interstate. Uh,
come into contact with multiple people a day from everywhere.
I've had people walk in that probably took their their
illumin the fall off their head before they came in.
Speaker 3: And I'm not being funny.
Speaker 9: They've actually told me that they get hit with stuff,
you know, government pirate b that after them. And the
one thing I learned a long time ago, and Bama,
you being in law enforce, but you learned this to
you never disagree with a legit crazy person. Always kind
of just having a loom with baby gloves, kid gloves
and all that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, ye act like you're interested in let them
go on.
Speaker 2: Well I always called it, you got to learn how
to ride the wave. It's like talking to a drunk person.
So you know, they have these you know, these peaks
and valleys, and you know, if you don't, you know,
trying to braw everybody wanting to brawl with you, you
have to learn to kind of like you know, flow
with that or whatever. Yeah, It's funny, was talking about
the tinfoil. Uh. I was even I worked special operations
for a while. Uh, but I always work the same
area town. For some reason, I came back to these
housing projects, you know, for seventeen years, and there was
a car coming through there one night, Roger, in a
very late hour, and I was just kind of, you know,
following the guy, you know, kind of seeing where he's going,
just kind of making a straight shot through the projects,
and I thought, I'm just gonna light this guy up. Well,
one I did the one thing you learned in law enforcements.
When you stop somebody, the first thing you do is
you flood the car with lights, so you know, take
downs on top. You always put your spotlight in their
in their mirror, you know, all this type of stuff.
That car lit up so bright on the inside. Well,
I always had a tendency of man, I'd exit the
vehicle and go around the back of mine. I'd come
up on your pasture side at night especially, and I
shine my light. And the entire interior of that car
was uh, coated in tinfoil everything. And he was wearing
an in top one of those zip up foil suits
like you exercise in the low weight and d on
a tenfoil hat and everything, the steering wheel, every single
thing was tenfoil. And it just surprised me because he
was so brightened there. Well, I talked to the guy
for a minute. Sure enough, you know, he's trying to
keep uh e MF waves and radio waves and this
that and the other, and uh, you know, to to
end the story about when he when he would cross
the bridge over into a different precinct I had back then,
we used a lot of CBS, and we used a
lot of next tails just to talk candidly back and
forth to each other. And uh so I uh, I
called one of my buddies and I said, ay man,
there's a car got away from over here, and I
don't know where he went. I think it came over
reached towards you. And he stuffed this guy the Nashville
fair Grounds. And by the time he stopped him made
two or three more cars showed up. So it kind
of looked like a big, you know, affair going on.
But you know, people were just bored, really and uh
it got real quiet on the radio for a while,
and in a second thing, they all started calling me
in they were laughing, you know, and it was just
funny because we're because I'd sent the guy over there.
I forgot who it was, but uh but he called me,
he goes, he goes. You so did that on purpose?
I said, of course I did, I go, I go.
You send your drunks across the bridge to us, and
your your mental people across the bridge to us, you know.
Speaker 9: But well anyway, Uh, and for y'all that don't know
where the Nashville Fairgrounds is, it's a pretty rough place,
or it used to be.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it still is or not.
Speaker 2: Oh it's all it's all getting very uh fancy and
contemporary and modern looking, you know. Over there.
Speaker 9: I've seen the I've seen like once the street is
like really nice houses and the other side of the
street that haven't started working on yet, and it's like.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's amazing.
Speaker 9: I won't get into it, but uh, you know, all
these people moving to Nashville and everything's changing.
Speaker 3: I don't know where people are going.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to blow my nose here, all right.
Speaker 3: So y'all if none of you have seen Bama before,
I love his storytelling and he I think we sat
for three hours out in the dark, talking just about
the jobs, and.
Speaker 2: Well, Roger was who was it was you and your
son and his wife, his girlfriend and his girlfriend and
your wife. Yeah, and uh, Honestly, when I started talking
to him, I thought these seemed like the type of
people that can really handled it, the truthful, vivid story.
So I laid out some stuff and I don't know
if they you know.
Speaker 9: Oh no, it was talked about afterwards. Layton loved it,
bre loved it. Heather, she's she just sits and listens,
like she's always like that, so you know, if you're
around her and she's not saying much.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 9: We dated for three months for I figured I didn't
know if she liked me or not, so she's just.
Speaker 3: Why she listens. Yeah, it was no.
Speaker 9: We I love it because I don't have a lot
of experience in it, but I've seen I've got enough
taste of it to understand what you're you know, what
you're talking about and yeah, and you know the thing
that amazes me is, you know, with what we talk
about on this show, how many former police officers and
detectives and and people that are spread all through that
type of work. You know, you see something or here's
something that you don't understand, and that's just the way
you're trained to try to figure it out. And you know,
that's that's kind of how you got started accidentally, wasn't.
Speaker 2: It It is. I mean, the things that happened to
me at LBA was after I had retired and was
started bow hunting up there. And so you know, I'm
literally one of those people that when I came from
the small town I'm from down here and ended up
up there, my mind was like a piece of clay.
So everything that I was taught in the academy and
taught by people and all kinds of stuff like that.
And listen, I have to say this, where get any
of this type of stuff. I'm nobody. I don't think
I'm anybody. I just I've done some things over the years,
lots of things that I can't talk talk about it seems,
you know. But uh, but you know, I've just I
tell kel all the time I go. You know, my
mind is just full of insignificant knowledge that wouldn't I
never will use anywhere anymore, you know, But but yeah,
I uh, my mind was just kind of like you know,
clay so anything that they taught me, I kind of
thought that that's the way things were. So by by
the end of my career, everything really fit into categories
and sub categories. And you always hear me say this
the memory bank or the rolodex of your brain, you know, so.
Speaker 3: Use that many times after you said that, I always
refer to Bama.
Speaker 2: And uh, but that really was the way my brain was.
So what got me in and I won't get into
the story, but what got me into it was the
things that happened. I did my normal thing. I went
through my brain quickly, and then later on I researched
logical things. You know, everything with me had to do
with logic and you know, things along that line. And
then that's how I ended up, you know, finding the
good group of people that I got in with, which
grew to the Woodwalker's Group, which grew into Squatching Hollow.
And there's just so many offshoots of the original, like
five six seven people. You know, that's always a neat thing.
It's funny I pulled Spencer's side. I guess I'm a
little more sentimental about stuff, you know, but I always
pull him aside at the meet and greet and I go, man,
look at this, I go, look at how many people
came from so many different places, you know, simply because
they listened to something that you have, you know, that
you put on, you know. And then I always tell him,
you know, and you came from here and blah blah blah, but.
Speaker 9: You know, and y'all for y'all that don't know, I
mean you've uh you've actually hosted shows on Saldust Beasts, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you yeah, Uh, I'll tell you what. And
this doesn't have anything to do with me, but one
of my episodes on Sawdust Beasts had more views than
like all of them together or something. And that's simply
because I got Vic knd Of to come on to
the show. Yeah, and uh, Vic could Vic had called
me one time, and I'm sure everybody knows who Vic is. Uh,
And he said on the week leading up to Halloween,
he goes, I would like to have a different uh
Bigfoot channel hosts a show leading up to Halloween. And
then he said, and then I want you on Halloween
to have a show and you interview somebody and uh
and this wasn't when I had a Vic con. I
mean that would have been the perfect thing. But I
had Elijah Henderson on, and Elijah just a he's a
you know, l BL expert, not just on bigfoot and
dog men, but lore and you know, he's a historian man,
well traveled and his and his late father was too.
Speaker 10: But uh and and let me if I remember correctly,
I was told, you know, Vic kind of come from
all of this too, right, he was involved with some
of the people back in the day that you know,
you talk about the brain is on the tree.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of a little bit of one, a
small one, but uh, y'all, I was.
Speaker 9: I didn't know all these people. Everybody talks like, oh,
you didn't know that. I'm like, no, I came along later,
but I found out Vic used to go, uh researching
with people that you know, right, and y'all and y'a
would hang out and all that.
Speaker 3: So y'all actually got to see Vic what he don't
show his face.
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for I can see the chant here. Thanks
for Hillary for putting that up there. And it's funny
I got. I got to mention something that I saw
Piro uh say on here. He just said, I will
watch that show specifically to see what Vic kind of
looked like. Uh did you notice that?
Speaker 3: Did he show his face?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you nobody knows what Vic
looks like, not even me and I and I speak
to Vic on the phone, and uh, I don't I
don't know what he looks like. So uh, but you know,
I think a lot of people watch the show because
they thought that, you know, there was going to be
you know, Vic in the square there.
Speaker 9: And I did the same thing when he was on Woodwalkers.
I thought the same thing in that the little circle
put up there. And he's a super nice guy. He
talked Amanda and I way back before we came over here,
and he's super helpful. He's you know, you can look
at his Facebook. You know he cares about everybody. The
dog thing is cool. I know that's probably something we'll
have in common. And man, it just breaks my heart
when you post stuff. But he usually gets results. It
gets results, people will adopted.
Speaker 8: He has such a good following that he's able to
get it out there to more people, and he's using
that platform as a way to do that. I think
that's great. And commenting on the fact that you know,
he doesn't show his face I honestly think he's really
smart in that aspect, in what he does and has
far he's gotten out here in the quote unquote cryptid community.
I hate that terminology till I find something else anyway,
because it can be it can be vicious, and uh,
I am. I think it's really smart of him to
do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those people that, Yeah, he's one
of those people that I text Merry Christmas too, are
happy Thanksgiving to you know, and uh but yeah, but
it's weird. How Yeah, you know, I told Spencer, I said,
you should, you know, be proud of you know, the
thing that's scoring on here.
Speaker 3: You know, and y'all for y'all that haven't had a
chance to make it.
Speaker 9: I was nervous the first time I've said this before
because you know, you know, me and Bama is a
little bit like on big crowds and maybe because of
what we did for a living and being around strangers.
But you know, that's one of the only big crowds
I've ever been around where.
Speaker 3: I felt the energy, felt safe, the people, you know, most.
Speaker 9: Everybody there has your back, you know, and it's just
a great get together. And like I said before, you know,
we didn't talk about Cryptis, Bigfoot or anything, dog Man
or anything like that, and just had a great time.
But I will tell you this, Maama, I got taken
to the Field of the Thirteen Hours for the first time.
So now I know, you know, we're some of these
things that y'all talk about, and I ain't telling you now, Spencer. Uh,
it was my idea because everybody you know, it was
on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Oh was this? There was this here in the last
meet and greet?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, oh, okay, yeah, okay. So I was like, look,
y'all have been all these places. I hear about them,
and yeah, I don't know where they're at.
Speaker 3: So we went there.
Speaker 9: Uh, and you're right, it's really close to where the
dog Man Thermal Joe pat.
Speaker 2: And very very close to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: If you follow the creek then it ends up correlating
with where we ended up camping at in the woods,
where something walked by and stepped down about four inches
from my head in the tent, you know, so it
was neat to kind of Yeah. I'm still glad that
I named it the Field of Thirteen Hounds because it
gives the respect to the people that recorded it, which
was Mark and Shelley and Debbie and Larry. But that's
almost you know, when you look at it now where
the things that's happening, it's almost like our own weird
LBL triangle, like the Lasting Triangle you now we have
the because it really is an area, you know, kind
of off if you look at it, uh you know
Google Earth or a topo map, it really is kind
of a bowl down in there that covered several miles
with creeks running through it. Perfect lots of fields, but uh,
just for me reading things and you know, listening to
accounts and stuff like that, lots of fields, but they
all have those tree lined ditches or creeks running between
them where something can just drop right off down into
uh you know, down low into one of those creeks
and just you know, go from place to place.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's I say, well it is it's you know,
without saying too much, it's uh, it's a perfect corridor.
I mean, you know, from coming from a hunter's background,
I went in the area a few times, didn't know
that was the area, and so when they told me
where we were going or when we pulled up, I'm like,
oh crap, This is where I was thinking it would
be a perfect travel way, you know, because.
Speaker 3: Of the ridges and the creeks and you know whatever.
I don't want to say too much, but.
Speaker 2: Well that's really, you know, while we're talking about it,
since we're going to talk about strange stuff tonight, that's
really where I saw the weirdest light anomaly I've ever
seen of all the things to happen at the Field
of thirteen House. I mean Field of thirteen Houses known
for vocals. I mean, that's what I mean, that's what
you go there for. And I would say maybe a
maybe a fifty or sixty percent success rate of all
the times I've been there, just kind of depending on
how many cars and stuff. And the only reason I
tell you this is because there were several people there
that witness this that night, and this was on the
roadway at the Field of thirteen Hounds. Well, we had
several people with us, but I'll just say who's close
around me. But I'm going to estimate that there was
probably eight to ten people standing out on that road
because what we would do when we were there a
lot of times, and we did it the last meet
and greet, some group go hit that place maybe around
midnights or so, and then if they get something and
nobody else will go back there. If they don't get anything,
then maybe somebody else will come back and hit it
about you know, two o'clock in the morning. So somehow
all of our vehicles had ended up there at the
same time. So here we ended up the same time.
So luckily by that time everybody had been trained enough
to don't slam doors and don't scfover your feet, this
and that and the other. And but anyway, several people
are out there that I could name all of them,
but the closest person standing to me was Debbie Porch
is standing next to me, even though short in the
vehicle with me, and you know, two or three cars,
and then up there at the front somewhere is Barry Browning. Well, uh,
most of those people, including Barry, doesn't know what's off
that roadway. Debbie and I and maybe maybe two other people,
we know where the places are at that I call
hog Pond, which is a beautiful spring fed, clear pond
up in the woods that we did put that by
a man. You put a game cam on that pond
while we were at the meet and greet up there.
But anyway, think.
Speaker 3: Pyro said he went back with him to retrieve them later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the hogs have really got it. And I
saw early hog sign because I was kind of looking
at stuff like a hunter, and they really had started
to even wear the bark off the trees down to
the soft you know, just rubbing the mud off and
stuff like that. And I looked at the game cam
photos and now those trees they had eroded the sides
back far enough up under the root balls that some
trees had fallen into the pond. All to say, DeBie
and I knew where the pond was at, where the
backfields were at, and we're just kind of standing there
next to each other, and we as usual, we all
probably stood out there probably ten minutes, you know, to
let vehicles stop popping and making the hot noises and
you know, things along that line. And what's funny is
I never know who's going to do a call, you know,
And even in this many years of doing this, I
always feel like if I do a call, there's going
to be fifty percent of the group that's going to go,
what in the world's he doing a call for? This?
Early Yeah, I always feel like I'm going to get criticized,
you know.
Speaker 9: Well it's well, look they're so experienced, they've all done
things together.
Speaker 3: I felt the same way.
Speaker 9: And uh, I felt like the I guess like the
middle schooler in the bunch, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was proud to be there. And what I
was impressed with.
Speaker 9: Was we got to a certain areas on I'll just
say it was on a bridge over some water and
you probably know where that's at.
Speaker 3: And Kombo had said they.
Speaker 9: Called a dog man up one time, and he told
me that after they blocked me in and I couldn't leave.
Speaker 3: So h so he.
Speaker 9: And I think I think he does that on purpose.
He don't, you know, I don't think it's an accident
that he did that. But anyway, so you know, he
he was doing some calls and some codies on the
north side went off, and then another call south side codies.
But during that it was dying off, or it just
died off. He did another one and we had two
boogers sounded about the same high pitched double.
Speaker 3: Well, it could have been one maybe that had a
dual time.
Speaker 9: Then obviously I've never heard an alpha mal before until
that happened. He started in the middle of that call,
and everything around it shut up. But what I was
impressed with. I knew what it was, but I've never
heard one that deep, you know, and that you know,
you could tell.
Speaker 3: It was a big boy.
Speaker 9: Anyway, when it started, everybody froze, Spencer had the mic out,
Nobody walked over it, nobody shuffled their feet, Everybody stopped
what they were doing, let the mic do his job.
And when it was over, Coombo looked at me. He said,
that was a booger.
Speaker 3: I said, I know what that was, Like, I know
what that is, sir. Yeah.
Speaker 9: So and look y'all, people has never heard them before.
It they leave no doubt. It's the power, you know,
the distance and the power and all that.
Speaker 2: So and L B. L is notorious for what I
call uh harmonizing boogers. Uh. The first the first outing
I was ever on, and it was me and Spencer were,
you know, with a bunch of strangers, first time we
ever went out. Those had a beginning how and Spencer
has a good recording of it. There's a beginning how
and immediately another one comes in behind it and it's
just like maybe a half octave lower, and it's just harmonizing.
Uh oh goodness. Years later, we were at a different
part of LBL, but not too far from the field
of thirteen Hours, and I heard the same thing really close,
and Larry had gotten out. Larry was actually, you know,
it's back when he would, you know, still do calls
a lot. He got out and it Oh gosh, I
feel like I'm getting a long winded. I apologize, but
I can tell this. It was cold, and we'd been
driving dirt roads and stuff like that. Well, we had
just hit the field of thirteen house and it was
probably maybe two thirty ish or so in the morning
and we hit it. We didn't have any look and
I forget. I was basically tired, and I'm following Larry's
tail lights because he does know his where around l
Bill very well, some following his tail lights. And I've
got Shelley Reed is sitting behind me, and I've got
the heat on, and then the windows cracks. There's a
little cool air coming in, but it's warm in there
with Shelley just coumped on out. And if i'd have
been a pastor, might have taken a nap too, you know,
But I forget what we were doing. But we had
people that had never gone before. Well, we'd already been
to three or four stops with no look, and all
of a sudden, Larry just stops in the mail of
the road. Well, Mark has this telescoping pole and that
has his recorder on it, and as the door opens
for him to get out, always he will telescope that
pole up for his foot every hits the ground. And
I've listened to recordings of both different ways. It does
take out a lot of the whispering out and any
little shoe shuffling and things along that line. So Larry
just pulled up to stop right in the middle of
this dirt road, and I think nobody in the vehicle
with me wanted to get out because it was freezing
cold and everybody's tired. And I said, well, I'm going
to get out, but Shelley was right behind me. And
Shelley was awaken enough to say, listen, just roll. She
was just down the window, and I listened from inside
the truck, and I said, okay, So I rolled the
window down. Man. By the time that I eased the
door and clicked that thing shut, we were up on
We were kind of up on top of a ridge,
and I noticed that right before we stopped there was
a little road ran off to my left, like maybe
it would would go out a little finger ridge out
there somewhere. But Larry had stopped right over the crest
of that hill. So I stopped behind him and he
got out. I opened the door, and by the time
my feet were hitting the ground, I was closing the door,
there was one howl that was all my legs are
covered in chill bumps right now thinking about it. There
was a howl that was so loud and lbl house.
They're notorious for they really if you listen hear enough
of them. They're the same note, and it's right up
there high, and it's usually a long, solid one, and
then the other one that'll come in with it. Well
that's what I was getting. But I started getting the
first one as I'm closing the door. Well, it just,
I mean, it shocked me. It was that close. I
that's the first thing I thought, was all, man, that's
really close. Then the second one chimed in and it
sounded like two people howling in harmony, you know, with
each other, one long note. Well, right then it hit
my brain. I thought, yes, I thought Mark Muble's got
a got his name telescopey you know, recorder and and
the how just and it went on. It's just it's
a spectacular and I just thought, I really thought, that's
one of the closest, loudest, best ones I I've ever
heard in my life. But now we can go back
to camp. It's freezing cold, and I'm tired, and i
want to go back to camp because this was like
a camp out with people, you know, where we were
taking people out and we wanted them to have fun.
You know, I'm thinking, thank god he got it on
this recording. Well, as the house started, Mark had walked
up and he didn't telescope the recorder, he just kind
of holding it in his hand walking stick hiped well,
he walked up to the side of the vehicle and
he asked Shelley. He goes, Shelly, you're going to get out,
maybe do a call. And Shelley said Mark, she goes,
it's cold and I'm just tired. I don't feel like
getting out and doing a call. And in the background
you can hear those houds on and on, and we
really wanted to try to clean it up and try
to trying to play it because it was incredible. But
Shelley just said, you know, I don't know I sound
I mean, I sound like I'm being a hawaiiye you know,
or something like that. She goes, they don't realize we
haven't slept, you know, forty eight hours and it's cold,
you know. So that that was another thing that happened there.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, we we we went past, we left
the bridge, and you know, some of those roads are
pretty rough, y'all. And I wouldn't advise going by yourself
one vehicle because you get back in there with no
signal and have a flat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very very much. Places where there's no sick.
Speaker 9: And we you know, we passed this something and I
caught it out of the corner of my eye. It
was on the right side of the truck. And we
got down to a main road and Combo was leading.
Speaker 3: I was behind him. Debbie and Larry had a truck load,
and then Spencer and Anthony. We were all together.
Speaker 9: So he came up to the my window and I said,
what are we doing? He said, well, I won't go
ask them if you want to go to this place
or that place. I said, hey, by the way, what
was that back there on the right side of the road.
Speaker 3: I have never seen this look in his eyes. He
leaned in.
Speaker 9: He said, that is a place that you never ever
go at night. I don't care how many people you
have with you. And I'm like, okay, you don't have
to tell me twice as.
Speaker 2: You say the name.
Speaker 8: That's scary.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't want I tell you that's where they
have heard that where they found the big bird nest.
Speaker 2: Uh no, I don't know if I don't know if
it's been given a name.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, just let's say the Booger House.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me tell you this. Uh there's
really only two places. Of course, there's really only two
places where I felt uneasy with people with me. One
of them we just called it the creepy Cemetery. I
mean that's if you watch any shows and Spencer's been
there two or three times. It's so claustrophobic. I don't
know if it's surrounded by cedar trees, you know, and
cedar trees really break up sound a lot, so it
doesn't travel through there much. But if you had went
in there with your eyes closed, right in the back
seat of a vehicle, and then they got you out
and then you opened your eyes, you would have immediately
felt like it just closed in on you, you know,
all of a sudden, it felt like everything was right
close to you all the time. The other creepy place
is probably the field of thirteen Hours, just because all
the history. Yeah, but you know, I was standing close
to Debbie on that road it with several other people,
and Barry Browning was somewhere up towards the front. And
we have a we have certain calls we do or
have been entrusted with or talked to by other people.
Uh and uh so we have just calls that were
used to that usually get good paybacks. Well, Barry kind
of did this modified call and shortened it. And you know,
you know normally when you get out there, you just
you know, just scream your guts out, you know, you know,
just screaming your head off. Well Barry came off with this.
It was really smooth and quiet, and it was I
don't know how to say this. It was maybe about
a third of the call cadence and call that we do.
And of course, so I didn't know anybody was going
to do a call. And he let off that call
well before he did it. We had kind of maybe
shuffled away from the group up the roadway a little
bit because it's a long straight road and we were
using a thermal, so we're thermaling that field, and also
we're kind of watching the field behind because nobody's watching
their backs. People have a tendency when they go to
the field of thirteen house, they just face the field
because that's where the house came from. Well, they actually
came from across the field, across a creek, across a field,
and way up a ridge and over the top of
the ridge. That's where they originated at. But you know,
so we're kind of watching people's backs.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 2: Debbie goes look at that light up there, and you know,
we kind of look up there, and of course there's
some people close to us. You know, we're not even
talking that loud. She was looking at that light up there,
and it's noticeably brighter than all the other lights in
the sky low, you know, above the trees. Now we're
up there, you know, close to Fort Campbell, so you
get helicopters and stuff, especially the people to meet and greet.
Contest to the fact that sometimes a big shouldn't hook
might come over a couple.
Speaker 3: Of times the show. Yeah, they got.
Speaker 2: But you know, so I'm thinking things along that line.
But as I'm looking at it, I told her, I said, well,
if that's a hell and it was moving slowly, you know,
straight horizontally, and I said, if that is a helicopter,
I said, well, that spotlight is remaining completely stationary, facing
straight up us. Then I said, otherwise it would be
you know, I said, you know, I've been in helicopter
several times. And we watched it and it flew over
and it stopped. Well when it stopped there for maybe
ten seconds, we're just looking at it, and I said,
that's right over the top of hog Pond. And I
think maybe me and her were the only ones that
knew what I was talking about, but I said, I
think that's I said, that is over the top of
hog Pond. That's when Barry let out that smooth call.
I've already got chill bumps before ever even say it.
When he finished that call, there was the longest howl
came from hog Pond, which I've never had one come
from that angle before. Well, as soon as it started
immediately and there was some low ambient light from starlight
and stuff out there. Uh, you know, I immediately could
see people kind of you know, turn you know, that direction,
and of course maybe you get kind of the whisper
of oh do you hear that, you know, but not
not much. It was it was people were really great.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: When the house started, everybody really got quiet because we
try to explain to it. And I'm telling you what,
the first one I heard, I wasn't quite Spencer's got
it on tape, and I may have even said some
things that I shouldn't have said, you know, because because
it jumbled my brain, you know. And we're talking about
that later too. But uh, but we're we're already facing
hog Pond and now we're talking a quarter of a
mile away. So think about a drag strip from one
end to the that's about how far away we are
from hog Pond cross field and through the woods and
the lights right above it. When the house started, we're
already facing that direction, and we were just kind of
like we were just kind of like whoa, you know,
really quiet. The light immediately just went straight down. And
when I say it went straight down, it's like it
just dropped. It's almost like it's almost like it was
suspended and somebody clipped the wire and it was that
type of hilosophy as it dropped like a like when
you see a shooting star, you know how they have
kind of like a strange travel to them, you know.
Well it was like that. That's when the entire group
just went whow. I mean, there was there just wasn't
even being quiet. Then we done heard the hound. Now
the light comes down, and I mean even even I
was just like, oh, you know, we're just like grabbing
each other's arms in the dark, you know. And uh,
I like telling that one because there were so many
witnesses there, you know, to see that that that light
thing take place.
Speaker 9: Is that the one where Davey said that it looked
like there were sparks dripping off the off of it
and falling down. Is that the same orb or is
that a different one.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. I before the meet and greet, uh,
for people that were there and for people that weren't there.
I usually I try to have a little camp out
every year and uh, you know and invite people or
just you know and tell them, you know, invite a
couple of people. And you know, I'm not trying to
do a giant thing, but it usually do it somewhere
around Thanksgiving, you know, maybe a little before, a little
after or something like that. So this year we're at
Bankhead and uh, there was a few people there and
Coon Bow was there, and Greg came by. Because we're
close enough where people can go visit Gregg's man cave,
you know, things like that, lots of hiking. So I
had a group there, maybe ten people. Wendell is on
here and he was there. Uh, and uh, we're just
sitting there one night. This is one of two strange
things that one of three strange things that happened, one
that I just cannot explained. There's no way to explain it.
But we just got back from somewhere and it was
dark and I was at the back of my truck
and I had to tailgate down. I had my flea
around my neck and h and we had a nice
fire going. Everybody's sitting around the fire. And Rodney walked
off and there's a little road that goes through the campground.
This is this is now, this is primitive campground. We're
the only people there.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: He walked to the little the same place I tried
to find you that time.
Speaker 2: No, that is a campground that has a restroom and
camping spots and stuff that. So we're just kind of
scattered out. But we're sitting around the fire and Rodney
walked out there to the little road to relieve himself.
It's probably maybe seventy ten yards at that, you know,
just to get out there. Well, I had my fleer
hanging around my neck. I was kind of messing around
the truck and he says to his wife, he goes
care and come over here a second. And uh. And
the first thing that I thought was it has to
be something for him to ask care and to get
out of the chair from under a blanket. And she
was holding Kell's little fuzzy white dog that we you
know that we got now. Uh, So she got up.
That's when I turned my flip, you know, turned my
fleer on to see what they were doing over there,
you know, watching them, and that's I was doing. And
I watched her walk over there and he and he
said something to her. And when I saw him bring
his arm up, I thought, oh, he's going to point
out into the woods. So I look, I just went ahead,
you know, beat him to it and just you know,
kind of went to look where he was looking at
because he has a really good thermal. I mean, Rodney
has a good one. Uh Well, when I look back,
he was pointing up into the sky. So I kind
of circled back around the truck the other way and
came in from where the fire was, and I said, uh, man,
what are you looking at? And he goes, man, come
here and look at this up in the sky a minute.
And I said, all right, and uh and you know,
you do one of those deals where you're either right
behind somebody or they stand behind they run their finger
over your shoulder. We did one of those deals. And
he goes, look at that line up there. He goes,
it's that thing moving. And you know, I just stood
there and watched it for a minute, and it was
easy to determine that this was something far away. And
when I say far away, I told him, I said,
that is far away enough to be over Huntsville or
a Decatur or that many miles away. But and I
text Spencer maybe after we had all been sitting and
watching it for three hours, and we eventually got to where,
once you knew where it was, we could sit around
the fire and just watch it. The closest movement that
I could like in this thing too, was a drone.
And you know how a lot of times people hover
drones and they just especially when they come to stop,
they kind of have that rocky rocky, you know, you know,
rocket like this. That was the only thing that was
close shook something that would have made these movements straight
up and down. It's it wasn't an airplane, it wasn't
a helicopter. And what's weird is if you really got
we tried to film it, hold on to second.
Speaker 9: Please, Well, what's fun you know, having people on somebody's
at the door, hang on all right, okay? What's fun
about having people on that you know is like knowing
worth where they're talking about. And what I alluded to earlier,
Bama was camping and I went down to I think
I went to see Greg Heather and I did, and
we're going to go try to find him, but there's
no service, no cell service.
Speaker 3: So he told me.
Speaker 9: It gave me a location and I had to try
to find it the old way and it was beautiful.
Bankhead National Forest is absolutely beautiful. And we've heard yeah,
and we thought we're in the right place, and he's right.
There was a bathroom and we walked over there had
a little a little walkway, a little raised walkway, wooden
and over there and there's like weeds and stuff and
trees and the water. And we're standing there out there
by ourself, and I heard a low growl just over
the water, and Heather said, what's that? I said, that
means it's time to go. I don't know what it is,
but it sounds big enough that what I had with
me what't gonna help us?
Speaker 3: None, Yes, we we. I tailed it back to the truck.
And that's another place I don't want to go in
just one vehicle. I was nervous in the daytime, but.
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was talking about.
Speaker 3: Windows UFO.
Speaker 2: Well, Rodney's one that spotted it. Uh, well, this is
the best wine. Describe it. And I told this dispenser.
I said, it looks like a light that's writing incursive
in the sky, and all the letters are writing over
each other. So it's simply writing, you know, letters over
and over each other. And then every once in a
while it was so crazy that people would just be
sitting talking, you know, having on a conversation and watching it,
and all of a sudden it would make such a
wild maneuver that everybody would go, WHOA like this. So
we watched it till we literally went to bed, and
one night we went to bed at two am. The
next night, it gets dark and we're like, oh, you know,
Rodney's comment's going to be here, the Rodney comment, And
and it wasn't up there. Well somewhere between ninety five
and ten o'clock there it was again doing the exact
same thing, and we watched it washed it. Now here's
what's interesting. I was joking with Rodney because when we
have the meat and Greeter, when we're down at a
Colson always camp way off in that milk by that
dried up creek.
Speaker 9: Lately, I've named that area that's Bamo Spot. That's my
special name for it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but Rodney and yeah, and it's good to
be over there because I'm kind of let moose run
loose and he's got to where his his hearing isn't
that great. Yeah, but Rodney and Karen usually camp over
there with us. Uh, well, i'd make I made the
joke to Rodney. I said, when it gets dark, I said,
I'm gonna look for the Rodney coming up in Kentucky,
you know, to see if it's up there too. Here.
We are sitting there one night and it's me and
h who's your squatch, and Bigfoot Bob. They're camping in
one big tent. I'm in a tent by myself and
that was it for the time Ben, and We're just
sitting there by the fire, and I just thought, I'm
gonna go see if I can see if that light's
out there. And you know, you know where my spot is.
You just look out across that field. It's just beautiful. Uh.
And I got to looking and kind of looking, and
I found the thing. And I wanted to make sure, Man,
I sit there and watch a thing, man. And I
watched it like you know, with my fingers, like to
a gun sight, and would put something stable against it,
you know. Me and Debbie at Bank had worked putting
it against a stable tree object to make sure it
was mood. You know, we're trying to scientific sed up,
you know. But sure enough there it was again. And
I said, uh, Jamie, come here and look at this.
As who's your squatch? He comes over and I said, man,
look at that, I said, Rodney spot of this and
by this time, and believe you me, with my mind,
I won't just I didn't know how to research it
or anything. But this had to be some completely natural
something that takes place, natural that's out in space for something.
Or I told her Rodney, I said, it's like something
that's within a layer of gases between us and the stars,
and so it's like heat waves making it flicker and
look like it's doing this. Only thing I come up with,
sure enough.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you. You know, you've been there
a ton.
Speaker 9: I've been there a pretty good bit, so you know
we're being they're keeping an eye on us, you know,
the helicopters when they come over and do a role
turn and turn right on top of you know, and
go back. Even the night we were out with you know, Debbie,
Larry and Coombo and Spencering all them, we were at
the field of thirteen House and what was wild was
going back to that story that y'all experienced about the
orb and the light. All of a sudden, this light
up here just above the tree line, looking.
Speaker 3: To the right side of the road. If you're you know, away,
I don't know how.
Speaker 9: To explain it, but anyway, you know where the camp
is on the left up there. Yes, we're looking opposite way.
All of a sudden, this light appears over the tree
line and I did the same thing you did. I'm like,
that just came on and there's a little bit of
whispering like uh oh, and I'm thinking, well, that's a helicopter.
It's got to be coming straight at us. Oh, and
then it turned and I know, you know, being around
the Metro Nashville and their helicopters, did y'all ever have
a light on a helicopter that would alternate like down up, down, up, down,
up search light. It wasn't smooth. It would go down
and then back up. It was definitely a helicopter.
Speaker 2: But well, we had some really good spotlights on those things.
But if you if really, if you looked at it
and saw this round globe looking thing kind of like
a security light, you know that was our flear. That
was a firm on the front of our helicopter. That
thing was awesome.
Speaker 9: Well, this was a spotlight and it was alternating like
but anyway, the question I got, it's like they kind
of got close to us, and you know, I'm sure
you know Joe with hel being hollers in here, and
they spend a lot of time at the LBL, and
I don't know if they're I had a theory just
throwing stuff against the wall.
Speaker 3: My dog was acting weird this time. Uh uh, flat
Rocks dog was acting weird.
Speaker 9: I talked to somebody else that their dog was a
little bit off. And I'm wondering if they either keeping
an eye on us or helping us out, you know,
if they are emitting some kind of sound. They know
these things are there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
And they don't make it a secret that they're checking
up on you either. So I don't know what's going
on there with the military, but I guess it's their
job to, you know, make sure everybody's safe. But it's
it's weird when I can understand one passover, but we
had multiples that one night, well Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 3: Night, I don't remember. And some of them they wanted
us to know that they were keeping it on us.
Speaker 2: Some things to take into consideration is a lot of
times when they have controlled burns, they're flying there at
night because at night you could see hot spots, you know. Uh,
in the in the woods and stuff like that. And listen,
I'm not making up excuses for the for the black helicopters.
But and another thing is, uh, you know I keep
up with like the state site and stuff like that. Uh,
you know, shooting these hogs from a from a helicopter,
you know. I mean I hunted. I hunted there for years,
and I always you know, we were always saying, why
don't you let us shoot hogs? I mean we'll be
sitting there with a bow and there'll be a line
of fifteen of them come back. You know what what
I mean, why won't you to let us shoot them?
Speaker 3: I mean, turn the hunters losing man. That's some of
the best eating you can get as a long man.
Speaker 9: Just now, speaking of the controled burns, they definitely were
doing that there. We we went one day, Heather or
now we of course we got there on Tuesday. We
had plenty of time, and we turned, we went past
the field of thirteen hours before I knew what that was,
took a left and went by the spot where Joe
and Pat and Robert you know, got that thermal footage.
And then I'm like, I don't know if we should
go up this way, but they led us through and
the fire was coming all the way up to the road. Yeah,
and it was some of the coolest lighting and and smoke, and.
Speaker 3: I got some really cool pictures of that.
Speaker 9: But I said, well, you know, the workers don't look
at their panicking, so I'm not going to panic too hard.
Speaker 3: But and I saw something the other day where they
were talking about eradicated, eradicating all the hogs out of LBL.
Speaker 9: That was on like an official website that somebody shared,
right all of them. Now what now as as a
hunter growing up and then and seeing a bigfoot, you know,
several of those, you know, and all this stuff that's
happened to us lately. And I'm thinking, Okay, if you
get rid of the foods horse, then what what's going
to happen now?
Speaker 3: Where they know where they get more? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't say, violin, there's places at l B A Uh.
I was sitting talking to a man in this little
town that I live in, and he's an accountant.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: But he's also a big hunter. And when I say that,
I mean he goes to you know, Prince of Wales Island,
he goes to Alaska. He goes to Saskatchewan. So in
his office he has, God, I should have sent you
these pictures. He has a big black bear mounted a
full mount in his office and then on the wall
these pictures where he's he's done, like, uh, they call
it the Big five or something. You know. Uh, that's
your mountain. Goat your caribou.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: See. And he and I were sitting there talking and
long story short, he goes, they they flew me in
in a little plane to a place that hadn't been
a human, hadn't been into it in thirty years. And
he said, they asked me, you know, do you want
to go in there and hunt? They said, we just
had this area opened up, you know, and we can
do it, it said. They said, literally, nobody's been there
in thirty years. And he goes, yeah, I'll go. And
he goes, I wasn't really prepared, like weather wise. Now
he hunts Alaska and stuff like that, so he's prepared
the ninety percent of us. And he said, but they
had to take me in by myself and drop me
and said we're gonna go get you, buddy, and we'll
be back in about forty five. And it's with his gear.
He goes, great, and he said, are you going to
be here be okay here alone if I'm not back
in two hours? And he goes sure, and he goes
cause the weather here, you know, gets pretty crazy. He goes,
what if are you going to start getting really worried
if I'm not back three or four hours? And he goes, no,
I'd be all right. He goes, could you stay overnight?
And he goes, I think I'd be okay, And he goes,
all right then and he goes that plane left, and
he goes, when the sound of it, you know, And
he's one of these guys that not just doing all
the hunting and getting in shape for it, literally training
for these these hunts because you pay thousands of dollars
to go in these things. Uh, you know. So he's
in that kind of shape, you know, watches all the
does lots of bushcraft. But you know, I said, you
ever watch alone. That's how we started this conversation. And
he goes, all watch it all the time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: He goes one time one season they filmed it where
I hunt on this lake, I mean literally and he said, uh,
he said, when that plane left, he goes, man, he goes.
There was just this feeling of just wow, you know,
whow I look at this, just in awe, you know.
He goes. Within an hour went by, and then an
hour and a half and two hours went by, and uh,
he said, then there was this. He goes. A longer
time that went by. He goes, the smaller and the tinier.
I felt out there, and he said, he said something
like I was carrying He goes, Now, I was carrying
a seven millimeter you know, magnum and blah blah blah.
And he goes. So, you know, I you know, he goes,
he goes, I've hunted wolves. I literally have hunted grizzlies,
you know. He goes. So I wasn't too worried about that.
And he goes, and then it started to you know,
be more hours. He goes, and I thought, well, I
guess I better, you know, put a shelter out here.
You know, long story short, he said, he set a
shelter up. He said, I was absolutely determined that I
was going to be, you know, spending the night not
fully equipped. But he said, I just thought to myself, Man,
if I do this, I'll just I'll be something different.
I feel differently. You know, after I have to go
through this, he goes then eh, he hears a plane
in the distance, you know, as it shows up. So
when they talked about killing all the hogs, there's places
in lb L that we would islands. We were kayak too,
to bow hunting stuff. There's just there's places in LBL
that in the middle of the daytime it is just dark,
you know, an eerie and and mall sy and it
just like you know, there's places in there kind of
like the Pacific Northwest. It's just like a rainforest in there.
Speaker 9: You know, I want to shift a little bit, you know,
talking about weird stuff, I think the next thing.
Speaker 3: You know, we've we hear reports all the time.
Speaker 9: You watch documentaries and people that go out, you know,
miles into the woods and outside at night and they
talk all over the country. They talk about this metallic
sound in their Bigfoot area. And you know, we've we've
heard that three times. But two times it was a
little different. And the third time it was on the
south end of the county and I almost thought it
was an animal in a cage on another farm. You know,
I'm trying to go through that bank of the sound,
you're talking about right, what right? I'm like, yo, mama,
and I'm trying to put it together, like, Okay, could
it be a dog on a chain and the chain's
hitting a metal water bucket or you know, I've heard
that I could, I couldn't place it. And this place is,
you know, pretty active, not every time.
Speaker 3: But certain times a year.
Speaker 9: And I know you've you've experienced a metallic sound where
it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: I had heard uh mention of that or somebody mentioned
that before, and if you went back on on the
Sawdust Beast channel.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: I got to kind of this is just the way
my mind works. I got kind of hung up on
it a little bit. And I tell everyone to watch
this documentary. I was watching The Missing for one one.
The Hunted, such a great documentary. Just oh, I get
chill monstious thinking about it. And it's nothing about hunters
that go missing. But you have to watch the because
they have Ron Moore head on there and there's all
kinds of good stuff in their excellent, excellent documentary. And
I'm watching the documentary and there's a gentleman at the
start of the documentary his name was Thomas Messick, and
on Sawdust Beast I did an entire show on Thomas
Messick going missing hunting. And the thing that really got
my attention about that was in this group of hunters
that he was with, the man closest to him had
already passed away by the time they started doing these interviews.
But one of the guys that was along this hunting
drive row that these guys were set out on, he
said he heard a strange noise. And when they were
doing the interviews, they they said, did you hear anything?
Did you see anything? And one of the guys, one
of the man's son, said well no, but so and
so said that they heard something. So they end up
going to this man. Of course they get to ask him.
He's still alive, and they said, did you hear something
that day? He goes, ah, you know, I just heard
a little something. You'll have to watch the documentary. He goes, ah,
you know, I've just kind of heard a little something.
And he goes, well, what was it? He goes, I
just kind of a little just a little, you know,
kind of a noise, and he goes and he goes
and he literally said something like and just kind of
and I think when he I've watched enough times, I
think when he did that, he was more or less
making a gesture as to the duration of the sound.
I was just a little noise, you know, like I mean,
that's the way we would say anything like that when
they ask this man's buddy, who is still alive? Did
he tell you he goes? He said it sounded like
a metal noise, like a giant his exact words, a
giant trap slamming shut. That's what he said it sounded like.
Speaker 3: And that's the similarity, is just what you said. Uh,
that's the key.
Speaker 9: It's like a lot of people have compared it to
like there'll be like five miles back in the mountains,
no roads and hear car door slam, you know, a
similar That's what that's what they, uh compare it to.
Speaker 8: So that's I've heard it described too sometimes almost like
big bunker kind of doors. Just that really loud, scraping
metal sound as well.
Speaker 3: That was us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used the word a snap in there somewhere. Uh.
Just you know, I tell anybody, it's funny. The guy yesterday,
you know that that hunts, you know, all up in
some rugged country uh, I go. I used to go
to church with him, is what it was. I saw.
I said, I know, I've told you this. I said,
you got to watch Missing for one one the hunted,
I said, you got to watch that. But anyway, it's
so that kind of got me hooked on that. Just
this was the closest thing to hearing or see anything,
seeing anything that anybody had come across so far in
one of these Missing for one one cases. I mean
there's there's cases that I've actually been to the spot
before where they have been in a row of people
and simply go missing while they're in a hiking in
a row of people, you know, things like that, and.
Speaker 9: Those I've watched those in The scary part is, like
you said, you know the people were within sight, Yeah,
and then.
Speaker 3: They're not and they're never found.
Speaker 9: Now, as a police former police officer and somebody, you know,
the first thing they're going to do is look at
everybody in that group and.
Speaker 3: Say what did y'all? Do you know? But then there
was one case I don't remember it might have been
on one of those documentaries that Pilates.
Speaker 9: Did, but there was a gentleman that they were on
vacation and he walked back in a trail maybe like
in Utah or somewhere, and back in the canyon. One
way in, one way out. Bunch of people there, and
he disappeared. No way, there's no way to get out.
And somebody had a picture of him that when they
saw it was missing, they took family photos and there
he's standing.
Speaker 3: And then he's never seen, never heard from again.
Speaker 8: And I remember hearing.
Speaker 2: I remember that one.
Speaker 9: That's that's terrifying, because you know, if I watched the
movie Jaws, and I'm scared, like scared me.
Speaker 3: I was a kid, I don't go in the ocean.
I ain't gonna wory about his ark.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I had heard that in that thing, and
I just thought that, gosh, isn't it Once again, I
say this. When they asked that guy that question, he
went into that memory bank of his brain, that rolodex,
and that is the closest thing. And this was an
elderly guy. He's heard lots of things, he's got lots
of things stored in there. So he went through that
thing in his mind and that's the closest thing that
he could come to a while back. Now, this has
been several this is. Before I moved back to Alabama,
I had begun talking to a childhood friend down here,
her and her husband. You know, I've lived here their
whole lives, you know, childhood sweethearts. And she had kind
of started seeing some things, and she would send me
pictures of him every once in a while, and she goes,
I know, you think i'm you'll think I'm crazy, she goes,
and the people around here think I'm crazy. She goes,
But I will go outside and snap pictures and I
see things, you know, And sure enough she would. Now
there's a couple of times, this is what's odd being
in this little town she's in. There was one or
two that really were drones. I could tell that from
the picture myself, and I just thought who in the
world and that little town would have a drone, you know.
But anyway, in our talk, and of course she wasn't
crazy because when she moved somewhere else, she never she
never saw them again, you know, over there. But she
had put me on to a guy. She within this conversation,
she said, you're in the Bigfoot stuff, aren't you. And
I always answer people the same way. I always go, well,
you know, if you believe in that kind of thing,
you know, that's kind of like my hand. And she goes, oh,
you know. So, so all four of them on a
double date saw one across the road. She started rattling
off stories and she said, well, there's a friend of
ours that lives in such and such county. I won't
say the name of the county. And she said, oh,
they've had them on their property for years and years.
And this is leading into the metallic story, by the way,
for anybody that's wondering. And she goes, they had them
there for years. And you know me, I'm just now
I'm still in Tennessee, but I'm just chomping at the bit.
You know. You think, this guy let me come over
and you know, mosey around on his land, you know,
and stuff like that, and you have to you would
have to take into account the county that he lives
in down here, and and it's a county ever since
I was a child, he's always known for being a
rough county. They do not like strangers or outsiders. And
it's like that to this day. And where this guy
lived at So maybe after a couple of months of
kind of going through her to him he let me
text him. So I texted him and he let me
come out to his house. Now, I remember I went
and visited my mother, came down to visit her, to
go to this guy's house, and I had to explain
to her where I was going and why I was
leaving Moose at her house. I mean she lives, I
mean right out in the woods. She lives way out
in the woods. And she's like, why aren't you taking
why aren't you taking Moose with I'm just gonna let
him hang around here, you know, because I know people
around here have some pretty rough yard dogs, you know.
So I left him, and I told her that I
forgot what I even told her. But sure enough I
got directions to his house. Typical dang slag Alabama road
with pop holes and stuff patched over ten times, and
you know, typical Alabama slag rode over where you have
some houses, and suddenly there's the church that everybody goes
to and walks to in the community. I think it's
a little little Baptist church, you know. And eventually I
came to the guy's house. Right after I passed his
well manicured guard, which you know, he took pride in
his I kind of will eye of the house and
you know, and look at and see how the things
set up and things like that. And I could tell
the guy too. As I drove my saw it on
my left, and I thought, man, that guy really takes
you know. I really thought if my dad was alive,
he would say, Man, that's a fine garden that guy's
got there. You know, you could tell that. And when
I pulled in, I got met by a big pit
bull running loose out there, and it ended up being
the friendliest thing in the world. And I got out here,
stands this guy and he had somebody with them. Understandably,
I went armed. I left my farm in the truck
and I got out. We just kind of stood around
there and talked a few minutes behind his house, and
he said, man, let's go take us a walk. I said,
all right, And we kind of walked to the edge
of the yard and it's vines and all kinds of
trees and stuff. And he had him kind of a
tunnel war out through there. And as soon as you
went through that tunnel, maybe five yards through, you came
out onto He said, as soon as we came onto
this little road, he goes, I mean, it was like
the stories started. Right Then he goes, well, this used
to be a county road. He goes, and believe it
or not, they used to maintain this road. And as
he's walking, he's talking and he goes, you know, my
great granddaddy saw his first vehicle on this road. You know,
we're kind of talking. I'm like, this is going to
be great, you know, and I'm thinking, let's get to
the bigfoot stuff, you know, you know, let's get to it.
But as we're kind of walking down this rut, Now
this is a road that there's like small trees growing
up in it. You don't see any there's no concrete
or asphalt or anything. It's just you know, starting to
be taken back over by nature. And as we're walking
down through there, he points ahead and he goes, right up,
there's an old Uh. I want to say that it
was this great grandparents home. He goes, their home set
right there, and so and sos homes there. And as
soon as he said that, it was like he just
immediately turned left and stepped off into the woods. Well,
you know, the other guy followed him. So I turned
left off into the woods. I went to. And I'm
saying this because it's kind of pertinent. It's weird because
when you walked in there, all the little trees growing
in and there. Maybe it had been cleared off at
one time and had grown back over the years, but
they were all very straight and about yay, big around,
you know, all of them. And we're just kind of
walking through there. And it is so odd that he
said this because I only thought this as I walked through.
I thought, oh, man, if Daddy saw those, he would
think those was dandy tomato poles. And anybody from Alabama
knows how you steak tomatoes up with tomato posts. No,
sooner than I thought that, he goes, you know, my
boy came in here to cut some tomato poles one time.
And he goes, sure enough, I'm serious, and he goes, well,
he goes, you see us right here post the house.
He goes, so he just was gonna, you know, like
cut a bunch and pitch him out there onto the
old road and then put them in a wheelbar or
something bring them back. And he goes, well, he's down there,
you know, down post to the gram cutting these things off.
He goes, and all of a sudden, he just stood up,
got to looking around, and he goes and he got scared,
and he just came running back to the house. And
then the guy listen, he just sit and say nothing
else for a second. And I said, I'm like, what
do he get scared of? And he goes, I don't know.
He goes that boys seeing everything. He goes if something
scared him, he said, And he made me come back
down here with him. He goes and walk that little distance,
even though I could see him. He made me walking
there with him to get the saw and everything or
the hatchet or whatever he's using and come back out,
you know, to bring him out. And as he's saying that,
we started kind of walking through woods then. And I
don't know about y'all, but if I'm in the woods
somewhere and I see like a big giant oak tree
or something, you can tell a lot of times where
an old home places been by the trees that are there.
For some reason. I don't know why, but even if
there's no remnants of the structure left, you'll still see
those big trees and think that the house used to
be there. Well, we were walking through the woods, and
also I was told to go over there when it
was cold weather because the you know, snakes and copperheads
were so bad around there, and they are here. So
we're in there in this cooler weather and we're kind
of walking through there, and I noticed those giant trees.
Well as soon as I noticed them, he said, well,
here's where the there he's talking about as a great grandparents.
He goes, here's where their house was at. And he
talked about that tree. He goes, I know, like me
and this guy thought so much alike, because when I
looked at the tree, when I see an old abandoned house,
I think, gosh, there used to be laughter in there
and families and h you know. So when I saw
that tree through the woods, I thought, man, that would
make a dandy place for a tire swing, you know,
for a bunch of kids. And he goes, well, we
used to have was a tire swing or two up
here on this tree here.
Speaker 9: And I was just like, all, yeah, it's getting a
little too freaky, because like it one time is but
two and three and four times, that's.
Speaker 3: Getting a little freaky.
Speaker 2: It's listen, y'all. I mean this is all coincidental, but
I'm just saying it's just weird, you know, yes, yes,
And so we keep walking towards it. And as you
walk towards it, you kind of come out of the
woods and top a little hill. And this is the
kind of place that has little out buildings that have
already fallen down and taken over. Uh. They have those
old water cistern little buildings, you know where the spring
has water. You know, these places are old. So I'm
kind of like you, No, I can recognize those things
just from you know, what's in my brain. And we
get to walking up to the remnants of this house
and it's falling down enough to where you can't go
into it. But you know, this thing probably had a
you know, a story and a half to it, and
you see where things were added on to it. But
you know, even the porch, even the porch is way
higher above your head, and it had all fallen down
and it was sending it was an old brick or
rock or block or rent it or something. As we're
walking up there to it, uh, he stops on the
side of the house. And since it's built on a
hill and the porch is so high, they had kind
of a storage area like a quote unquote basement under
there's what he called it. But you know, he goes, oh,
you know this where people back then kept their canning
and they're you know, kept stuff, you know, cool things
along that line. Like, so he goes basically yeah, So
you know, he's freaking He starts into that story and
I kind of get to walking ahead of him, because
once I get to this house, I'm kind of like, Wow,
this is really pretty big house to be out here,
you know, in the middle of nowhere. But this is
all there land, you know, in the middle of nowhere.
So as he kind of stops, I kind of walk
on around the front of the house and I'm really
standing looking out. I posted photos of all this, and
I think the saw this beast page years ago. So
I really walked to the front of the house where
I could look at the front of the house and
you could kind of see through the basement. So if
I leaned forward, I could look through some of the
brick and look through the basement and see him out
that side door, if y'all understand what I'm saying. And
he's talking to me through the hole through the basement
there and he goes, yeah, one of them dang booger's
got He didn't call it a booger, but he goes, yeah,
one of them things got trapped down here in the
basement one time. And now this is the first time
he's alluded to anything. You know, at first, it was
just a feeling that someone had gotten you know, his son.
But he goes, yeah, one of them things got trapped
down here in the basement, you know, and I want
to say that it was his Uh I forgot who
was with him or whatever, like cousins and things along
that line. You know, when I grew up, we were
babyst by people that went to church with us as
cousins or I mean, you wouldn't believe that it didn't
take any prerequisites to watch kids back then, you know.
Uh nope. Well he's kind of talking to me through there,
and I said, down here where we're looking in. He goes, yeah,
he goes, well, what it is. And I'm not making
fun of him, imitate me. It's just the kind of
drawl and the way this guy was. He goes, well,
that thing got trapped down there, cause the door opens
to the inside. He goes, it goes in, the door
closed behind it, and he goes, and we didn't know
it was in there. You know, it's and it's so funny,
but it was fascinating and it's a comical story too.
But the thing that doesn't make you just laugh out
loud is because you're standing right there looking at it.
And to me, I'm standing here looking at history, and
I'm listening to history, you know right now that nobody
will get to hear. And he said, well, then it
just sort of tearing the basement up and.
Speaker 3: I and I said, you called a raccoon in a case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is the part that I'm looking through,
and the porch and everything was you know, and closed
at that time, so it's really trapped down there, one
way in, one way out. And uh he said, it
got to tear in the dank up basement up. And
I cannot remember. I could probably have been done so
much since then. Uh, I can't remember if they went
up and did it or if it somehow got the
door open. But he said, this thing ran out and
that's what he said, was a thing. And he goes
and it was about yay hi And when he held
his hand up, he was going maybe about four feet
high or so off the ground and he said, just
came out and just covered in here. And I said,
no kid, and he goes, yeah, and he goes, and
of course when it came out, I mean, all of
them are. This is right by the big oak tree
where they had to swing, and there's an old concrete
picnic table sitting there, still sitting there. So the thing
came busting out right there. And he said, and the
thing just came running out. And I'm like, what did
it do? You know, did it? Did it stop? Did it?
I'm just like, you know, looking around.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's almost as bad as seeing one.
And you won't know what he did, you won't know.
Speaker 8: Details.
Speaker 2: Right well, he said, uh, he said, the thing came out,
and he said, now if you picture it this way.
By the time he gets done telling the story, I've
turned to my left and I've walked back around the
side of the house. I'm kind of standing beside him,
you know, looking off down into this this basement. Lots
of light in there, you know, but it's full of
leaf debris and we was caved in, you know. And uh,
he said, well it ran out right here, and he goes,
and when it got right there, he goes, that thing
turned left and across the road, the old road that
used to be a maintain so they actually used to
really live right on a dirt road that had, you know,
some type of little traffic on it. Uh. And he said,
that thing crossed the road and off into that hall
that went. And of course, when I looked then across
the little now we're talking looking ten fifteen yards. I
looked across the little road. This is the only place
that has that giant bamboo as big as it is
over there on the farm where I work. And when
I say big, I mean the size of a cantalope big.
That's how big they are. And I looked over there,
and of course that whole hollow was full of those bamboo.
And on the Beast Facebook page, I had taken pictures
and video of that bamboo, and I just said, holy macrel,
look at that bamboo. And we get to walking over
there to it, and he said, and it had to
come from somewhere. He goes, yes, so and so buried it.
And they do it a lot as a wind break.
If you see, it's usually on the north side of
a house where the planet and then it just gets
out of hand, and so we're kind of standing there
and I said, well, what's on out the road? He said, well,
once you get on out there, he goes, that's least
for hunting. And he goes and them fellas don't like
you coming around out there. You know, they got a
hunting cabin out there. And I said, okay, about the
time he said that off in that hollow. And you know,
when I looked off in that hollow, there was you know,
all these bam boob but then it just kind of
dropped off into a normal Alabama halla. You can't see
the bottom of it. It's just got a whole bunch
of jump down in there. And I was kind of
trying to imagine it in the spring of the summertime.
And uh, and he goes, man, he dropped off in
that hall. And we're just kind of standing there looking
in there, and all of a sudden we hear I'm
going to try to remember it the best I can.
We hear this metallic noise and it was like a
It wasn't unlike a big piece of galvanized metal like
you would have on a barn or something. Because I'm
around a lot of rusty old metal all day on
that barn.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: But the sound of whatever hit it was like, it
wasn't a dull sound. It was like a really cris
snappy ting sound. I mean, even y'all trying to imagine
this with me and your head, even something finer tip
than a normal hammer that you would using your house,
so you understand how the tinier the tip gets the
difference of sound is on the tin. And it was
loud just one time. And uh, and I can remember
as soon as as soon as it happened, we're kind
of standing there in a little triangle, you know, talking
to each other. We all just kind of looked and
now this big old pit bull had gone with us,
just monstrous dog, sweetest thing, but you know, it had
hung out with us, and it wasn't you know, it
wasn't feeling any thing. Are afraid to wander off that
you know, was hanging around with us, even the dog
ting when it heard the ting, all of us look,
even the dog look. Well, then it comes, but it
doesn't go anywhere. It just kind of trots over and
just kind of looks off into the hall. And I said, uh,
and I remember turning around and looking back at him,
and I said, uh, y'all heard that. Now, these are
guys that have dealt with them forever, so there's no
doubt they're believers. I mean, you know what I mean.
Uh So, I don't know why I said, did you
hear that? But I said did you hear that? And
they said, oh yeah, And I said have you ever
heard it before? And he goes, no, I ain't never
heard that one. And I said, what's down there? And
both of them in unison said nothing. I mean, both
of them at the same time. They said. Because even
my friend Laura that I'd begin corresponding with down here,
she told me, she said, if you go over there,
she said, don't go in the spring of the summertime.
She goes. Man, she goes, there's this really bad snakes
over there. She goes down in that hall is really bad.
Incidentally enough, she moved to an area that backs up
to oh gosh, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of acres
is owned by one of these big lumber companies. So
it's been stripped mine. So you have loads of spring fed,
beautiful lakes that have grown around, lots of you know,
and all this that and the other, and need to
go there, and you know, poke around with her a
little while. But that was the thing about the metallic noise.
And let me say this before we go. Uh, you know,
we kind of stood there and kind of walked on
out and made our way out, and we're standing there
and it's and of course I had to say something
about his garden. He had a nice garden, and I said, man,
And I said, man, you got a good garden here.
And I said, uh, have you? I said, you ever
seen a track anywhere? And the thing about around there
and in Alabama is there's a lot of uh, pine
straw litter. See you sure don't get no tracks in it?
Just uh but you know, once I got out there
and saw, you know, the way his garden was, you know,
all tilled up, I said, have you ever seen the
track out here? He goes, well, he goes, years and
years ago, he goes, we had something, things go missing.
And I go like what. He goes, well, you know, tomatoes,
you know this, that and the other and uh and
I said, and he goes and it was just kind
of a little here and a little there. And he
goes and it was always over on that far side
over there by the by the woods, and uh, he said. Well,
then one time, he goes, we had plowed up closer
to the woods. He goes, We didn't plan anything, but
we would had plowed on up there closer. And here
I come in one morning and there's one track and
he goes, and it looks like maybe that thing stepped
one long step and put a foot down and then
reached way out and took you know, whatever it was taking.
He goes. And he goes, not that they were robbing
us or taking anything, he goes, but you know, he goes,
I always started thinking about what I planted on that side,
because instead of planning one thing over there, now I
plan a little variety, so you know, they would have
a little of each thing, you know, or whatever. And
he goes, and we never had a problem. And we
walked kind of walking on around the yard. Well we
as we round the edge of this yard that backed
up to where we've been up in the woods, up
there there's the clothesline. And he said, oh, so and
so there's so many grandmas and cousins and stories that
I heard that have kind of lost track of. And
he goes, you know, so and so came out on
a we're standing at the clothesline, and he goes, came
out on the deck out there the smoke, you know,
it just after dark, and said she looked out there
and said, who in the world left that white sheet
out there hung on the clothesline? Said she looked out there,
and it was a big, you know, square looking white sheet,
and said she took two or three steps down the
steps and took a draw and threw her cigarette down,
you know how you squash it out with your foot.
And she said when she looked up, the sheet literally
turned around and just off into the woods, just took
on and so and so naturally, I asked him, I said,
now do you think that? I go now her, I go,
what did she think? Did she think it was a
ghost or or a haint as they would have called
him here back then. And he goes, no, he goes,
she knew it was one of them them things, but
you know, it was a white thing. And you know,
right then, I said, well you've heard about that. I mean,
there's the famous Alabama white thing, which was really just
kind of in one area. I believe that there's obviously
more than one.
Speaker 9: Well Obama, just to interject, you know, I'm twenty twenty
miles from the Alabama line, and we have a Laura
and Flintville, and you heard the Flintville Monster, and we
got these ridges and BFR reports and all that, and
you go look it up. I've heard several stories even
north of here, a few miles around the interstate of
white ones, you know, from people like you're talking about,
not people that see in conference or whatever.
Speaker 8: It's just the museum's taken in several reports of white
ones all over from Alabama, Tennessee, North Georgia everywhere.
Speaker 9: And another thing reason I pointed out the distance, you know,
twenty miles is nothing we could if I was healthy,
I could walk twenty miles day. Well, these things taking
up more distance with each step. Who knows how far
they could walk. But I've heard stories of them walking
twenty miles for a water source, you know, out west,
and then they found tracks. But that's another story. But
every time I hear that the white thing, I always
wondered if it's if it's an albino, you know, which
had happened.
Speaker 3: And another thing.
Speaker 2: Is, you know, what is your first what is the
first thing you think, Oh, it's a white one. What's
your natural inclination that you're going to make is that
it's old, correct, Yeah, you know it's white or it's great,
it has to be old. But that's not necessarily the case.
I mean, you could have a genetic abnormality in it,
you know, like you said.
Speaker 9: And I guess, you know, thinking about what we know
about other animals, if you talk to a witness, which
I haven't really dug in to any of the stories,
if if it has black skin, then it's not albino,
all right, or if it has gray skin, if it
has pink skin, you know, like my dog. Yeah, So,
I mean, I guess that'd be a good question to
ask next time, did you see did you see anything
other than the hair? But you know, we we know
people that have seen gray ones, you know, you you
know people have seen grays ones. So and we talked
to several people that have older ones on.
Speaker 3: Their property and and have you know, injuries and stuff
like that, and they get thinner. We've been told but uh,
that that white, that white thing.
Speaker 9: The first time I ever heard that, because I know
what deer do when when you have a pieball deer
or now by no deer, I've experienced this myself and
on our farm. And let's say a deer is half
white spotted but half white white, two eggs and all that.
Speaker 3: The other deer shunned them because they can't hide. If
there's I have seen them, that's right, they can't hide.
I have seen that white deer on the side of
the hill in the woods during the winter, putting no
other deer. Put my scope on that deer, just looking
at it, admiring it, and then all of a sudden
see an ear twitch and then I start looking there
laying behind logs, they're everywhere, so they started pushing this
thing away. So that makes me wonder if that would
be similar with these things just throwing you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've thought about them.
Speaker 8: It would make sense.
Speaker 2: When you get into this, you can start thinking about
stuff like that all the time. Here's what as interesting.
As we walked on around this guy's yard and he
was there by myself that day, and uh, we're just
kind of standing there talking and I told you that
there was a little church down the street there maybe
I don't know, maybe half a mile or so, and
prior to get to his house, and he said, well,
on Sunday he goes, my daughter, you know, came home
from church. He goes, and she came in and she
just kind of acted strange, and he goes and I
just looked. He said, as soon as I saw a
look on her face, he just said, I said, you
saw one, didn't you. And she goes, I sure did,
and he goes, well, what was it? She goes, she
just goes on the way back from church, and she
was just one of those classic road crossings from from
her right to her left up into the property. You
know that we were just on just one of those
deals were a crossroad and up the banking of the pine,
you know, thickets. It went. Yeah, but I just thought
that was funny. Here's something interesting, though, is for people
to think about. And the thing I would have liked
to talk to her, because this is going to sound
strange to y'all. I kind of learned this when I
would would investigate traffic crashes and fatalities and things along.
Things along that line is our eyes are programmed. We
read from left to right all the time, so over
the years we really train our brain to do it
faster to save time because we really want to get
through it and get it over with So from left
to right, we really move very smoothly. Now y'all try
this exercise later on. This is Madmo's homework for you.
If you go from right to left, you'll notice that
your eye has a lot more nystagnous, it's what they
call it. In your eye. It's the same thing that
you get if you've been drinking. Uh. The task, not
the test, but the task that they give you is
called horizontal gays nastagnus is what it's called. But even
if you have anything to drink or anything, if you
would look from right to left, you'll notice your eye
kind of does things in stages because it just doesn't
process things, you know, as fast, so you don't miss
all the little fine details, you know, like you're reading,
you don't, you know, right to left, you wouldn't miss
all the little these and asses and a's and things
like you're reading, you know. Uh. And I've heard hunters
say a lot of times, especially like special ops guys
and you know guys that I work with, is we
never if we were looking for a guy and we
were posted up, we never looked left to right. Well,
always scanned, areus. I mean we always scanned there is
right to left instead of left to right when we're
looking for somebody. So I just thought I would have
loved to talk to that girl. But it took me
six months just to get, you know, get ahold.
Speaker 1: Of this guy.
Speaker 2: I had talked him into coming on the Sawdust Beast show,
believe it or not, and I told him, I said,
just kind of like I do right here. I told him,
I said, we can obscure your face, and I said,
and we can even change your voice, and we'll do
all that. And he just he backed up, maybe the
day before or the day of.
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard I've heard nonbelievers, you know how you
see comments and hear comments. We've all been victim of that.
With one guy.
Speaker 9: His reasoning was a guest was too calm. But this
guest that we interviewed had been dealing with them for
years out west the Pacific, northwest California, somewhere out there.
I had plenty of good evidence, good videos showing partial
arms and elbows and jumping down, you know. So this
lady lived with them in the area and she was
so calm, and the guy said, I don't just don't
trust anybody that don't freak out about it.
Speaker 3: And but but you go to that guy that you're
talking about. To me, that's more.
Speaker 9: Especially one on one talking to him, watching his body
language and stuff. The fact that he was so casual.
Yeah about it, because as you experienced things, you get
used to it, you deal with it.
Speaker 3: You've already dealt with the first one. To me, that's that.
Speaker 9: I like that because that tells me they've had to
learn how to deal with them, you know, deal with
the fact that rail and that they lived there.
Speaker 2: And somebody asked if that eye tracking was based on
dominant hand. It sort of is, like, it's weird if
you're right handed your dominant leg is your left leg. Uh,
you know, it's just really strange. I've seen guys that
can shoot offhand non dominant eye, you know, as easy
as I can shoot anything else. But yeah, that's pretty
much the way it is. Y'all should try that sometime though,
Like I said.
Speaker 3: I just did it. I felt the difference.
Speaker 2: To check that for sure and listen and you can
train yourself. Look, somebody just threw up the thing on
there that said that they're lefty. See it's different a
little bit for a left handed person. They still read
left to right. But they're left handed person, so they're
tracking is a little bit different. But I'm telling you
something that may be weird. But you know, I have
a dash cam in my truck because of land between
the lakes. I mean, that's the reason I have it
in there, because I think if I can ever see one,
I can press the button and my dashboard cam will
go back in time ten seconds and then it'll start
recording from ten seconds ago, and then it'll record two minutes,
and then it'll record two minutes after I press the button.
Now here's what Kel says to me. She goes, you know,
good and well, after a bigfoot crosses the road, she goes,
You're gonna be so freaked out you're not going to
be able to press the red button. And that's the truth.
So that's why you put like a butt of something
other gigabyte card in there that'll record five hundred of
those videos before it'll overlay itself, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the problem I found. I'll give you all
some advice in the chat.
Speaker 9: So I bought a Ohted, a poor man's GoPro, and
it was cheaper. It filmed fine. But the thing is
you buy them from other countries and they ship them
in here for them not to be if if they
record for an hour or two hours, they're considered a
video recorder and there's a higher tax. Yes, So what
happened when I got this one? It recorded in like
nine minutes to twelve minute intervals, so I was constantly
have to turn the thing back on. I didn't know
it wasn't recording. So go ahead and spend a little
bit of extra money to get up a camera recording
camera and just beware. I bought one and it's it's
it's a pain. But anyway, you know, when I first
started doing this, I was coming into this about the
time the shift started, you started when there was more
of people will be careful about what they You know,
if you saw bigfoot, that's fine, you found track, that's fine.
But if you saw an ORB you didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: Uh, if you heard.
Speaker 2: We were flesh and blood people and uh. In fact,
in order to join to first join the Beast group,
you know, you have to answer questions and stuff like
I'll be polite, you know on these type of things.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then there was one in there that said, I
believe that this is a flesh and blood. So of
course I was, you know in that camp. You know, Uh,
it really took. It didn't take things I saw or
heard to change my mind. I think it was really
speaking to some people, uh that were credible, good people
with nothing to gain or lose by telling a story
that And these are people that just came out of
the woodwork too. Those are my favorites. I love somebody, Yeah,
I love somebody going to get groceries and they have
an eight foot uh gorilla cross the road in front
of them, you know, I mean, those are the best.
Me and Roger were joking about this, and y'all can
remember Bama saying this, The Bigfoot world is the only
place where you can be driving down the road, look
over in the field, see a bigfoot. Tell it on
a show next thing. You know, you're famous your conferences
and everything, and you didn't do nothing. You're just driving down. Look,
you're just driving down the road and you looked over
and saw one. Suddenly you have books out, and suddenly
suddenly you got books out, and you know, you got
all kinds of stuff going on. I'm just saying I
always make that, always make that joke to people. They'll
go I'll go, So you saw Bigfoot? When are you
going to be at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference?
Speaker 3: And I I was told that.
Speaker 9: Like when I finally told my stories, uh and got
it out there, a guy said, Uh, don't be surprised
if you start getting people to call you be on shows.
I said, why why would they do that? He said, dude,
you saw one for thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? He said, that's a long time.
Speaker 9: And you know, my fourteen year old brain, I was
all messed up. And my best description of what you
know that, well, how'd you feel? Well, it just didn't
look right, you know.
Speaker 7: What I mean?
Speaker 2: So you know something didn't y'all just have Larry and debbieyond.
Speaker 3: It's been a while ago. It's back when they got married.
Speaker 2: No, Debbie and Larry were just on or with her
on Woodwalkers.
Speaker 3: They might have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were listening while I was at the farm
bush hoging one time. And here's what's funny, and me
and Larry talked about this. The last two campounds. They
came to my bank Head campout. Uh, you know, we
just we used to do a lot of shows, I mean,
and the Beast Channel had some really pretty good, you
know guests on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go back, y'all go back and look that
up and watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good shows I did. So when
I go back and look, I can't believe how many
shows I hosted, you know, with people. Uh. But it's
funny because we kind of joked while we were sitting around,
Larry says, Oh, I do not care if I'm ever
on a show again, because I've been on so many shows.
And when I got to looking at it, I remember
just how many shows I've been on. I mean a bunch,
and what have I done. This is why I always
tell people I'm not any nothing. I don't think i'm anybody.
I've never actually seen one. I've heard some incredible things
have changed my life and my my brain and my
views on religion, and those are the things I really
do pray. Y'all think this is funny. But when I pray,
sometimes I tell God, please just let me see one,
you know, I go, just let me, just let me
see one, because I know it'll I know it'll do
something more to me. But I've already taken those steps
to get up to that, if that makes any sense
to you. But yeah, and all to say of all
those shows I've been on and I believe it or not.
Roger actually had somebody ask me can talk at a
conference one time, and I said, I don't have a
power point. I don't I don't have. I mean, I
go bama Is. I am a storyteller, and I don't
embellish stuff, and I don't make up anything. I just
trying to describe it to where if you're sitting there,
you'll know you're right there with me, and I go,
I don't think standing in front of a giant room
of people, I can be you know, even though I've
done a lot of public speaking, I'm like, I don't
think I can entertain a room. I don't think I can,
you know, follow up Ron moorehead or David Politis or
you know somebody like that you.
Speaker 3: Know well, and but you think about it. Has David
Politis ever seen one?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Hawk six eight or two asked
if I've ever seen one? Never seen one. When people
ask me that, uh, And here's what's funny. People that
are big in the big foot world never as Smith
if I've seen one, because they know if I've seen
one or not so it's usually somebody that just has
found I'm in the Bigfoot, and anytime they asked me,
I always say no, but I've been five inches from one.
Speaker 3: Yeah it almost snapped on your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go. I've been you know, five inches from one,
and normally I sleep with my head the other direction.
I don't even know why I had a dis direction
that night, it's just the way things happened out.
Speaker 9: Well tonight before bed, I'm gonna pray Bams he's one
because I won't hear that description. Because I'm gonna tell
you what's going to happen to you, even though you're
very observant, even though you're It's just like when you
heard that first hal. You remember your reaction. You said
a few things, you said, you shouldn't have You had
a y you know what I mean. You wouldn't have
done that at work and y'all were trying to be
quiet and you were prepared, right, something happened that you
didn't expect. So the same thing's going to happen. But
you'll be you'll be okay because of what you're made up.
But it will mess with you. I mean it will.
There'll be so many different kinds of emotions and thoughts
that go through your head. I would love to hear
that story, because you.
Speaker 2: Know, there's today, I'm out on the farm and the
guy I'm working with he left on the four wheeler,
and of course all the dogs. We've got a bunch
of farm dogs. They're like a roven pack of wild
kids out there on the farm. I mean, they're all
you know, healers. They're all into something if they're not fighting.
But they all left with him, and I'm just kind
of bent over between these rows of tomatoes picking tomatoes.
And you know, I've had that deal several times where
I just thought, okay, stand up right now, just look around,
you know. And i'd stand up, look around, you know,
and and I thought, if I see one, well, I
can't tell people that I just had one of those
weird feelings. I go, how do I explain why I
wanted to stand up and look around? And if I
tell them, if I tell them the reason, then they'll go, oh,
you're making that up. If you didn't have the feeling
or something. Well, this morning when they left, I bent
over in the name rose of tomatoes. And and a
lot of times I would listen to headphones. I listened
to y'all or wood walkers or something, but I didn't
have it in because it was so nice and the
birds this morning, and I just kind of stood up
and looked across one of the fields and I kind
of picked out a tree out there that I bush
hog around, and I just thought, what in the world
would I do if I saw one standing right there
about that eight foot tall limb on the bottom of
that tree. And I just kind of went through my
head all the different things that I would think, or
that far away, I was thinking, you know, maybe I
just stand here and look at it whatever, you know.
And then for a second I thought maybe I would
try that. Somebody told me this one time. It may
have been uh, it wasn't Piro. I can't think of
who it was, but I thought, maybe I'll try to
speak to them in like a Cherokee tongue or something,
you know, and raise my hand and said ooh ah
or something like that, you know. And then as soon
as that went through my brain, I snapped right back to, dude,
you would I don't know what I would do. And
all to say, I've been in the was in a
position for years to where they trained and trained and
trained you, but you had no idea what the training
was going to do or if it was going to
take until you were right smack in the middle of it.
And then sometimes it's great and sometimes it's not so good.
When it deals with gunfire, it never is. But I'm
talking about lots of other things.
Speaker 3: Uh so, and look, gunfire is not like people think.
It is like that.
Speaker 9: A lot of times you're the lead thumping around you first,
you're like that, you know, yeah, But the thing is, uh,
the the training you've had and other stuff is probably
gonna help you. And you've you've thought about all these scenarios,
so you probably be okay.
Speaker 3: But and I hope you do, man, I mean because.
Speaker 2: It gives you a faster reaction time. Let's put that way.
If you went over like me unfortunately. Uh, you know,
I've been to church shootings before, in school shootings and stuff.
And when I sit in church and I've I worked
security at one church where I was at and I
just they just, uh, those people have never been to
the things I've been to and seen it, so it's
hard for them to be serious about their security. And
I have a friend that's retired that specializes in business
school and church security, and he makes a fortune because
he's good at it and he's seen the same things
I've seen. Uh So, when I'm sitting in church here
and kill knows this about me, uh I just tell
kell I go. You know where the eggs is, and
you know where to go, and I go because you
can't stay with me. I go because I go. I
know that there may be I know there's one guy
armed in there because he actually wears his uniform to
church before he goes to work. But he don't wear
ballistic vest I mean, I see things, and uh so
I'm always telling her. I know there's three or four
guys in here that are armed all the time. I'm
just not sure who they are. And I know not
a single one of them has ever been either in
a gunfight or pinned down by gunfire. There's a huge difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I know we went through that Bama.
Speaker 9: There's a guy over you know where Lawrenceburg is right
in that area and Tennessee it's straight north of you.
But in Tennessee where the Amish and all that. After all, Yeah,
he came from over there. I'll make this short but
we had a meeting. He was a security guy, and
we had an incident that was nothing, but it looked
like it was, and.
Speaker 3: Two of us did what we were supposed to do.
Speaker 9: We headed it off, the one guy confronting the guy
that just walked in out of nowhere with no shirt on.
And we were having this meeting after church, and then
he went to him and I got in a doorway,
you know what I'm saying, backing him up a little bit,
but not making it obvious and all that, and he
took come to us later. He said, you know a
lot of times, just like you said, I come to
these churches and I do this and I leave thinking
I don't know if I did any good, he said,
But you two did the right thing, you know. But
like I said, it's totally different when it's real. You know,
I worked at the jail, I've been in the fights,
I've been in the talk my way out of the fights.
Speaker 3: I've you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So anyway, but the training, though, if you don't have
any training, A lot of times when you I don't
care if you're playing football, soccer, you're doing anything in
your life. I've seen this a million times. If you
don't have any training, a lot of times what you do.
Speaker 2: Is nothing, you know, and not to not to sound
a certain way. But when the first time that I
met and I always call it this an organized group,
and an organized group was Mark and Shelley and Larry
and and Debbie, and Spencer was as not as new
as I was. I mean, Spencer had already been to
it a little bit, but he had never met any
of them, you know, And so it's like, you know,
I don't mean to sound a certain way, but I
really thought already had everything in the rolodex in my
brain that could go in there. I mean I'd already
heard things and seeing things, and I still had this curiosity.
But that trip, that trip man, really changed me. Like
I said, it was really a kind of a fake thing,
the way things came out and the vocals we got.
But I drove away going, man, that's that is for real.
All to say that. I want to tell you this
because we'd taken a little note about it. Those first
good vocals that me and Spencer ever heard, we were
standing there and after they were over, of course, we're
still just standing on that road there, listening well, we
went and got in our vehicles, and the way we
went I think we had two vehicles, and the way
we went went to another place, another place. Eventually got back. Well,
I asked them, I asked later on, and Spencer can
a test to this, and Mark and Larry and all
them can. I said, how long were we at that spot?
And they said, oh, after those houses, we probably there
another good thirty minutes. And I said, I thought we
were only there like five minutes. And I said, what
do you mean, I said, I don't really remember anything
after the house. I go, I do remember that happening.
I go, but I remember, I go, I remember maybe
standing on the road. But didn't we leave after that?
They said, no, man, we stayed out there a long time. Now,
I'm not saying it was anything. I attributed it to
fatigue because we've been going for two or three days
and not really sleeping. I mean, we were just just
I don't know if they were testing us or you
know what, you know, what was going on.
Speaker 3: But uh, well, I look, but I.
Speaker 2: Had that lost time, you know, it felt like lost time,
and I really confined it in Mark with himself first,
and that was it, you know, I never really told
anybody else.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing.
Speaker 9: The thing is when you have something happen, and I've
been fortunate to have at least one other person with me,
so I can look at them and say, what did
you just hear? What did you see? You know what
I mean to kind of confirm. But so when the
first time you heard those hows, you knew they're not
in your memory bank of sounds. So your mind's analyzing,
you know what, you know what I mean, and you're
and you're like, it's not a euphoric feeling, but it
almost is a little bit, And.
Speaker 3: I think it.
Speaker 2: Look, you've ever been going down the road and somebody
somebody pull out in front of you, Well, they don't
actually pull out in front of you, but they almost do.
They kind of pull forward just enough to give you
that feeling of yep. It's almost like a you know,
like a well, uh, it took it. It happened and
process in my brain so fast that maybe for the
first quarter second I thought somebody's playing a joke on me,
because it was because that's the only thing my brain
came up with, because nothing was logical right then. The
sound that I was hearing. It didn't fit, like I said,
it didn't fit into the rolodex anywhere. So just for
a fraction of a second was I'm being somebody's playing
a joke on me. Then once it got to going
on and the harmony started with another one too, and
I could kind of judge the distance. The thing that
really shocked my brain and my system so much was
when my logic finally convinced me that that is not
a man up there, because I really I don't know
if I said that out loud or was saying it
over and over to myself, but I remember going, that
is not a man. That is not a man up there.
I mean, if you heard it, you would know that
it wasn't a man.
Speaker 3: But and that's the hardest thing to explain to people.
Not only is it hard to explain, but you can
show them those amazing recordings. There's several people we know
got them, and it doesn't do it justice. It doesn't
have the vault.
Speaker 9: You know, you can't hear the distance, and when you're
standing there, you know, it's like gunfire.
Speaker 3: You're trained to listen to gunfire. You can kind of
pinpoint after two or three shots, you know, like it's
coming from that area right there.
Speaker 9: And people, this is all the kind of stuff you
go through when you're hunting and all that. When you
hear a sound and you're in a hollow, you can
track it back, that goes back.
Speaker 2: It's funny said that, you know, I always so many
people at work always said all the time, they said, man,
you must be like and I don't mean to be
an insul at all, but they said, you must be
at like the high end of the spectrum or or
have some something like that. And the only reason they
were saying this is because ever since I was a kid,
I've had this weird obsession with kicking out the patterns
and things, the patterns and sounds and things like that.
I know that's something, but I'll explain what that means.
Speaker 3: I understand it.
Speaker 2: So if we were and this happened frequently, if we
were out in the projects at night, we're out of
the cars, just kind of standing around, you know, you'd
hear a dang gunfight pop off somewhere. And ninety eight
percent of the people I interview that have been through
bad stuff, they always start out saying, oh, I thought
it was firecrackers. Kill is trained of where Her first
rule is there's no such thing as firecrackers, you know, Okay,
I mean that's just the way she thinks now too.
She's seen me get up and leave church during the
Christmas program when firecrackers went off outside, because that's just me.
But we would be standing there and here, you know,
dang gunfight pop off over there, or just one person.
A lot of times they just do some distraction to
get everybody go o beyonder, you know, somewhere and just
no no rhyme, nor reasons to just tut to, you know,
just through there. And as soon as I heard it,
i'd listen to and people would look at me and
they would go how And I could pick out the
pattern in my brain. It was like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
And then I would get the other overlapping, and I
would go, oh, man, I'll go that one that was
nine shots was eight and the other one sounds like
it's maybe a nine or something. And they would just
start laughing because I would pick that out. There's times
when we've been there and we literally have heard the
rams pop off like that and two seconds later them
hit the dumpster beside us. I mean it got to
you know, I worked in there where you're standing talking
to a citizen and gunfire went off. You didn't stop talking.
You just kind of hunkered your dead head down a
little bit. That was true life.
Speaker 9: Well, so we need to talk more, probably because yeah,
I'm kind of the same way.
Speaker 3: From you know experience.
Speaker 9: We shot a lot growing up, and the neighbors did
and all that, and what Daddy could do it He
could tell you what they were shooting and all.
Speaker 3: But I do that too.
Speaker 9: I can replay it in my head and said, that
was thirteen shots, and how do you do that? You know,
like that was a nine middle man and that might
have been too. You two do three, five, five, six,
you know, popped off? Yeah, but not in a stressful
situation like you were right. But I don't know what
it is, Bamau.
Speaker 2: But see if you're in if you're in a place
that's a stressful. This is what I and I mean
I came man, you would believe where I came from.
I've never even really seen a police car, Okay. And
then you end up in the in the during the
crack epidemic in this large city, in one of the
worst project complexes. When you're in a place that's stressful
all the time, it gets to where it's not stressful
for it just because. So that's that's why I tell people.
I go, you know, there's kids here, there's people here,
there's older people here, and stuff that. Especially the kids,
they don't know it's bad. They don't know at three
years old that they're not supposed to be outside at
two thirty in the morning because their parents are outside.
I go, this is just so, it's kind of something
you got used to. Luckily, I was in my ear
long enough that I was recognized. Of course, I had
all my tattoos there at the end, I was recognized.
I've been there enough years to work. I had seen
people grow up and then whatever happened to them happened
to so people kind of they knew me, and they
knew what I did not want to have to show
up on Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say one thing.
Speaker 9: Heather tries to scare me all the time, and she
will make loud noises whatever, and I don't react to him.
Speaker 3: And she said, why don't you react to him? I said, well, well,
here's what I think. But men, you're different.
Speaker 9: But yah, but you're talking about brain processing, I said, Heather,
I've already processed what the sound was. That's true to
you know what I'm saying, so already know it's a
handslap on the table.
Speaker 3: I already know. Now they ain't saying something can't scare me.
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 9: But anyway, so let's I want to wrap this up.
And we got plenty of talk about but are you
a Poe because this Bama story time? We had one
last time it was great about Barbara Mandrels house and
all that was a borrow.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I did, and for the
listeners too, if there's still anybody here, yeah there is. Well,
first of all, I appreciate everybody in chat. I saw
lots of familiar you know, names and stuff, and I
just these y'all are my family. I love all of you.
Speaker 6: I really.
Speaker 2: After I sat and talked to you that night, I
started keeping notes of all these stories, and I took
a lot of stories that were good ones that I
can actually tell anybody, But the majority of them you can't.
I mean, they're truly bad things. But I have pages
and if you took them out of context and simply
read the line. It's I don't I can't even really
say some of them, but I would just write in
a way to where I can remember what the story was.
And it's funny to go back and read the line
and just start laughing. But yeah, that would be that
would be great. We have we have that work. Is
This will sound cliche because I've heard it say a lot.
They go, oh, it's a you know, ninety eight percent boredom,
two percent sheer terror. It's actually a lot more once
you're calloused. I hate to say that. Once you're calloused
and have been there a while, there's more comical stuff.
You see, the comical sight to even horrible you know, situation.
Speaker 9: And I've seen this, you know, from experience. When terrible
things happen, the seasoned guys handle things with humor, not
really meaning it, but to deal with it. And the
younger guys didn't know how to handle it. And we'll
get mad at the older guys and you know, because
they're saying certain things. But I realized early on they
were just you know, yeah, I'm sure when they got
home it was a different story.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, you've been there, a while
when you stand there, get tune a sub over a dcomp.
Speaker 9: So, are you opposed because we have a lot of people,
We have a lot of people we all know, but
we have a lot of people here that has never
seen you before.
Speaker 3: Are you opposed to telling the Ronney millsap story? The
what the Ronney millsap story?
Speaker 2: You mean, tell it right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell it right now.
Speaker 2: We'll tell that and then we'll sign off.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, could y'all so for y'all tell.
Speaker 2: You the funniest thing about the story is it is
when I told it. This is just this is a
common story. And thanks to Hillary for putting my, uh
my YouTube channel up there too. My YouTube channel's me
shooting sling shots. I just do a little thirty second
you know, shorts of trick shots and things like, you know,
for kids or whoever. So it doesn't take up much
of your time even if you subscribe.
Speaker 3: He's entertaining. I like his bridges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any audio. I don't talk, believe
it or not. I don't talk any of the videos,
you know, and I just you know, it's just shooting
fun But what's funny about this story? They've come to
call it the Ronnie millsap story. Is when I told it,
H Spencer thought it was hilarious and he just he
thought it was funnier than anybody. But and here's the story.
In every town where I worked at, I had lots
of stars, movie stares, country stores, soap opera store, anybody
you could think of, kind of scattered out there. And
I've probably driven by this how over the years, easily
hundreds of times. Now you think, oh, I'm exaggerating. No,
this was on a main strip and I went up
and down that strip fifty times a day sometimes. Well
here's this nice house all fenced in with a big
you know fence all the way around it. I'm talking
like a brick fence, you know, and a gate. I
had never been to the house. I've been in this
area town for many, many years. Well, we get an
alarm there one day, so I go down there to it.
Sure enough, there's this gate. Now this seemed like a mansion,
but this is a very nice single story home, you know,
with a pool. And the main thing is it does
have a lot of real estate around it for this
you know area of town also, So this is a
well to do area, and I rang the little box
there at the gate. Of course, there was no response,
and on rain again no response. So I backed out
and I'm kind of driving along with the fence with
his brick fence to my right, and I see a
guy down there mowing. So I just whipped in the
next driveway and got out, and of course the guy
stopped and I said, hey, how are you. I said, uh,
do you know your neighbor? I said, their alarm is
going off over here, and he goes, well, I ain't
seeing nobody in or out. He goes, uh. He goes,
that's Ronnie Millsamp's house. And I said, well, his alarm's
going on. And now I've been to lots of I've
been to lots of famous people's houses on not really
great stuff, but this was just a burglar alarm. And
well I looked over on this guy's property and he
had some scaffolding leaned up against the fence, and I said, man,
you mind if I climb your scaffolding there and go
over into his yard. He goes, man, have at it.
So I just climbed the scaffolding. I mean, if I
come to check your house on a burger alarm. Man,
I check your stuff, I check your winds, I check
your doors. I'm gonna come in there and check. That's
just the way I did things, So over I went.
The first thing you do is you learn all the
tricks to see if there's a dog in the yard,
and we'll get to those next time. Because I learned
all these from people. There wasn't no dogs running loose.
It would have been a beautiful place for a big
shepherd to be loosen there. But and this was when
I was working canine too, you know, well, I jumped
the fence started kind of walking around. The first thing
we normally do is go and knock on a door
or something first, because if it's a false alarm and
you look out and see the police walking around your
backyard looking and peeking in your wins, that's just going
to scare you today. So of course I went and knocked,
you know, rang the doorbell. Wasn't no answer for a minute,
and I kind of backed up. Was looking around some
cars on the car port and feeling of the hoods
of the cars. There's another tree you learn see if
the goods warmed, if anybody just got home, set the
alarm off. All of a sudden, the door opens and
I turned around and looked, and I hear like hello,
And I walked over there and and as I get
to the door, I look and there's Ronnie mil Saup.
You know, I mean, this is we listened to him
on Sunday mornings before we go to church on the
eight track back then you remember that, And uh, I still.
Speaker 3: Got something in this closet.
Speaker 2: And of course I recognized him, you know, instantly, and
uh and in my mind, I remember just thinking it's
Ronnie meal Sap, you know, just I mean I've seen
him before that functions or where I was working security
or something like that. And uh, I said, mister meal Sap,
I said, ah, I said, uh, I'm sew and so
and your burger alarms going off and he goes, well,
and what it was he had a relative come to
stay with him that hadn't been there before. They had
set it off something blah blah blah. And I said,
would you like me to come in? And yeah, Katherine
mcswain's comment down there as somebody already came up with
that when I'm sorry, but but I asked him, I said, uh,
I said if you just got if you hear by yourself,
I can, you know, really take a good look around
for you. And he goes, well, I appreciate that, and
I said, I've kind of walked around the back and
I remember walking in the house and I really didn't
think about this, but I got my flashlight out because
it was dark inside the house. I mean, and look,
it didn't come I didn't think about it. It never
crossed my Mind's the middle of the day, and then
all of a sudden it dawned on me. There's no
lights on in the house. It's dark in here, you know,
other than you know, whatever shade Drambi. It light was open.
If it had been nighttime, it would have been dark there.
And for some reason, it took me just a minute
to realize that he doesn't have to really turn the
lights on in the house. You know, he knows us
way around the house like we would know our way,
our way around our own house. And Spencer just rode
laughing about that. What's funny is I want we do
a lot of camp and hike in our mountain spot.
It's coas to Robbinsville, Uh, North Carolina. Well that's where
Ronnie Millsap's from So last time I was in their
little Vista center. Uh, you know, put nobody in there
talking to the lady. And Ronnie Millsap. They have like
a festival, you know for him, you know, every year
that comes up. And I said, I got to tell
this Ronnie Milsap story. And I told it there, but
she thought it was hilarious. Well, what's funny is I
got the alarm again one time, and uh, this time
I went to the gate and rang the gate and
somebody went hello, and I said, mister mills Sap And
I said this is so and so, and he goes, oh,
the alarm again. I go, yeah, this time he actually
opened the gate. And I didn't go in the house
this time because he had already you know, been there
all day, so I just went around outside.
Speaker 9: Anyways, Well, Heather, Heather smacked me in back of the
neck one time because we were talking about stuff like that,
and she said, oh, I saw Runnie miss out at
the Nashville Airport one time. I said, he didn't see you.
Oh up, Bama, thank you for being here, buddy. It
you know, me and you both could talk for hours
and hours and and.
Speaker 2: Well, man, I love y'all. I love the uh everybody
in chat. I'm glad y'all hung in there for a
little while maybe and for for anybody ain't listening to it,
this listening later, man, this is That's really why I'm
long winded descriptive is I think about guys that are
long haul truckers that are driving listening or or like me, man,
I love to listen when I'm bush hogging, you know,
on the earbuds and just and I want to you know,
I want to hear it. So man, that's just me, y'all.
I am when I am.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 9: The thing is a storyteller is painting pictures with words.
And so my my whole family was like that. You know, Uh,
my dad hunting. You know how idea hunter is.
Speaker 3: He'll go through it.
Speaker 9: He'll go through waking up, you know, putting his underwear on,
and then so anyway, thank y'all, y'all. There there's so
many there's so many funny stories and stuff that we
could tell. I wish I had another channel so we
could just do that sometimes.
Speaker 2: But I remember, uh, remember that, take a note of this.
Who's your squash? This rope? Don't sleep in the moldy
tint from Let me tell you that story.
Speaker 9: Sometime, all right, And y'all, thank y'all for being here.
Bama appreciate it. Text me sometime and I'll try to
get that gift to you. Yeah, bro, I got them
put up for you, so uh.
Speaker 3: And we you know, y'all, the Bigfoot community as a
whole is great. Uh.
Speaker 9: And you know sometimes drama happens in public and all that,
and yeah.
Speaker 3: Kind of it kind of hurts all of us.
Speaker 9: It hurts no, no, no, back up, it hurts the
subject a little bit. So you know, we appreciate y'all
coming in and talking to each other and you know,
being nice and asking how you're doing and all that,
and that's just to me, that's just the best part
about all of this, you know. So y'all keep it up. Yeah,
thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Bama man, thank everybody, and chat and thank you Roger
and thank a man too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah see she had to take off, so yeah,
y'all on the next one. All right, I'll talk to
you later.
Speaker 2: Later, y'all. Bye bye bye.
Speaker 5: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where
the moss sangs low and the night leans back, the
stores must about a shadow tall, big feet moving where
the moon lad fall.
Speaker 4: Some say it be some said ghosts in the trees.
Speaker 2: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.
Speaker 3: But around here, man, we know the call, or we.
Speaker 5: Just call them friends of squatch, and holler, so lie
that f.
Speaker 4: Let the cat tell sinking.
Speaker 2: The nine bird nime cowperds. Weaed in here hereund and
yad the fall it ain't on and ain't gonna know.
Speaker 4: The Greek girl's gold and the shadows get taller. Yeah,
your cousin living in the squatting the well legions walk
getting a brave man fuddlter, But I mind your staffing
and squatching.
Speaker 5: How body tell me stories about their thing and sauce
to ten foot.
Speaker 3: High with a tomb.
Speaker 4: But y'all red eyes burning like a summer's coat, last
track thig enough to swallow your sober. The old folks laugh, saying,
don't you fear if grid has been living here for
hundreds of years, treat them with respect. When the moon
gets smaller, and they'll let you live in squatching.
Speaker 2: Holler sold that fire, Let the swarm from roll.
Speaker 5: You can hear that that bets right down in your soul.
Speaker 4: If you hear a drund from the river, call that
ain't no boat crow barking that lord little swamp runner
steal and the crickets get salt for y'all lie alone
and spotting the weather break by ties in the fools
off noble.
Speaker 2: To get walking on that spot.
Speaker 11: And some say gods it old pine ridge. Some say
he walks from bridge to bridge warm thanks show.
Speaker 2: When the night comes down.
Speaker 11: Something big still calls it scrowned, so bank that fire.
Speaker 4: Hell, Let the night get deep at the willows, which.
Speaker 5: Water cuts up creeps. If you catch us glimpse.
Speaker 11: Through the midnight, holler, just now your head, don't scream.
Speaker 2: And holler them for the wild.
Speaker 11: I'm on spring and the legends getting taller.
Speaker 4: How wherever it runs in squatching Holly, we ain't scared,
but we sure stayed cautious down in the dog on
that squatching holler
Speaker 8: Foo,