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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom.

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Speaker 3: Squatching Holler's gotta tail.

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Speaker 2: The show wisps.

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Speaker 3: Creep like a creature's fained out.

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Speaker 2: Every shadows got a secret to grow?

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Speaker 3: Monsters rise?

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Speaker 2: Where the stories are told?

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Speaker 4: Squatching Hollow, Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 3: Are they?

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Speaker 5: Are they gone?

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Speaker 4: Who can say?

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Speaker 6: In the hollow of the truth, your slips, huge foot

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prints fade where the creek runs than a lantern sways.

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Speaker 5: Let the search beak rustling waves, but there's no one near.

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Speaker 2: Is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 1: You fear?

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Speaker 2: Everyhere goes question?

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Speaker 5: Every Russell's a clue.

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Speaker 2: Swatching Holly's got its eyes on you.

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Speaker 4: Monsters stories are torn?

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Speaker 5: Swatching Hollow, Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 2: Are they? Are they called? Who can say?

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Speaker 6: You not say?

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Speaker 7: And now you're Squatching Holler. Hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers,

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and Ashley Rams. Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere

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great podcasts are found. And now the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, he.

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Speaker 8: He, Hello, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Doing pretty good.

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Speaker 9: I won't complain because what o'd lou hopes you used

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to say, You've complained to people. Ninety percent of people

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don't care. The other ten percent are glad that you

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so true. But yeah, everybody, you know, you get older

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and if you just feel lucky to be here, you

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hadn't reached that point yet.

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Speaker 8: So you're there getting there.

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Speaker 3: Thank everybody for being here.

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Speaker 9: We've I don't know how many episodes this is here now,

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but on our phone forty five.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we are on episode no episode.

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Speaker 3: For forty six. I forgot that, sir.

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Speaker 9: So Actually we've got part two with Bama on the thumbnail,

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but it's probably really like part five or so because

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he's he's he's got the record for being.

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Speaker 3: Being on Squatch and holler the most.

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Speaker 9: But and what's what's cool about getting to know people

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we went to there'll be all the meet and great

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and you know there's one hundred something people there and

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nobody was talking about Bigfoot, you know, nobody. We all

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get to know each talk about, ask how everybody's doing,

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and it's just a great time. And of course Bama,

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you know, that's where he got, you know, some of

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his first taste of some weirdness, and we'll.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about weird stuff tonight.

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Speaker 9: And there's so many things we can talk about we

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have to pick and choose for different shows.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 9: And there's some people like, oh, that's a bunch of crap,

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but you talk. What they don't realize is us three,

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you included Amanda, have seen and had weird stuff happened

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while we're doing other things, and yeah, we're just trying

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to figure out what it is or just you know,

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tell people what we've experienced.

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Speaker 3: So let's bring mister baman. Oh my god, y'all, Oh

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my god, Oh he kept out a secret.

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Speaker 8: You did not tell me you were bringing that out

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the tenfoil tonight, sir, or I would have had mine.

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Speaker 2: I figured we were h probably be talking about some

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weird stuff. I figured I better put my ten full

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hat on for a minute.

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Speaker 3: You look like I heard she's kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you what. In about the thirty

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seconds it took me and killed to make this, we

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just kind of pulled some full out and you know,

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kind of whip it off and it wouldn't even go

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all the way around my head. So you know, I've

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even got a kind of a gaff in there in

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the backs like this, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's interfering with your signal. All blurry on us. Now, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to. I didn't want anything you know, reading

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my brain waves or you know, anything along that line.

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Speaker 9: But well, yeah, well you know with your with your

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former job and me, uh growing up on the interstate. Uh,

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come into contact with multiple people a day from everywhere.

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I've had people walk in that probably took their their

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illumin the fall off their head before they came in.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not being funny.

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Speaker 9: They've actually told me that they get hit with stuff,

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you know, government pirate b that after them. And the

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one thing I learned a long time ago, and Bama,

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you being in law enforce, but you learned this to

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you never disagree with a legit crazy person. Always kind

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of just having a loom with baby gloves, kid gloves

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and all that.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, ye act like you're interested in let them

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Speaker 2: Well I always called it, you got to learn how

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to ride the wave. It's like talking to a drunk person.

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and valleys, and you know, if you don't, you know,

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trying to braw everybody wanting to brawl with you, you

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have to learn to kind of like you know, flow

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with that or whatever. Yeah, It's funny, was talking about

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the tinfoil. Uh. I was even I worked special operations

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for a while. Uh, but I always work the same

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area town. For some reason, I came back to these

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housing projects, you know, for seventeen years, and there was

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a car coming through there one night, Roger, in a

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very late hour, and I was just kind of, you know,

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following the guy, you know, kind of seeing where he's going,

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just kind of making a straight shot through the projects,

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and I thought, I'm just gonna light this guy up. Well,

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one I did the one thing you learned in law enforcements.

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you flood the car with lights, so you know, take

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downs on top. You always put your spotlight in their

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in their mirror, you know, all this type of stuff.

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That car lit up so bright on the inside. Well,

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I always had a tendency of man, I'd exit the

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vehicle and go around the back of mine. I'd come

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up on your pasture side at night especially, and I

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shine my light. And the entire interior of that car

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was uh, coated in tinfoil everything. And he was wearing

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an in top one of those zip up foil suits

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like you exercise in the low weight and d on

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a tenfoil hat and everything, the steering wheel, every single

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thing was tenfoil. And it just surprised me because he

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was so brightened there. Well, I talked to the guy

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for a minute. Sure enough, you know, he's trying to

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keep uh e MF waves and radio waves and this

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that and the other, and uh, you know, to to

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end the story about when he when he would cross

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the bridge over into a different precinct I had back then,

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we used a lot of CBS, and we used a

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lot of next tails just to talk candidly back and

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forth to each other. And uh so I uh, I

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called one of my buddies and I said, ay man,

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there's a car got away from over here, and I

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don't know where he went. I think it came over

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reached towards you. And he stuffed this guy the Nashville

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fair Grounds. And by the time he stopped him made

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two or three more cars showed up. So it kind

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of looked like a big, you know, affair going on.

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and in a second thing, they all started calling me

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in they were laughing, you know, and it was just

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funny because we're because I'd sent the guy over there.

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I forgot who it was, but uh but he called me,

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he goes, he goes. You so did that on purpose?

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I said, of course I did, I go, I go.

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You send your drunks across the bridge to us, and

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your your mental people across the bridge to us, you know.

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Speaker 9: But well anyway, Uh, and for y'all that don't know

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where the Nashville Fairgrounds is, it's a pretty rough place,

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or it used to be.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it still is or not.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's all it's all getting very uh fancy and

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contemporary and modern looking, you know. Over there.

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Speaker 9: I've seen the I've seen like once the street is

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like really nice houses and the other side of the

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street that haven't started working on yet, and it's like.

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Speaker 9: I won't get into it, but uh, you know, all

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these people moving to Nashville and everything's changing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where people are going.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've got to blow my nose here, all right.

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Speaker 3: So y'all if none of you have seen Bama before,

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I love his storytelling and he I think we sat

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for three hours out in the dark, talking just about

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the jobs, and.

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Speaker 2: Well, Roger was who was it was you and your

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son and his wife, his girlfriend and his girlfriend and

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your wife. Yeah, and uh, Honestly, when I started talking

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to him, I thought these seemed like the type of

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people that can really handled it, the truthful, vivid story.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, it was talked about afterwards. Layton loved it,

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like she's always like that, so you know, if you're

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around her and she's not saying much.

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Speaker 9: We dated for three months for I figured I didn't

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Speaker 3: Why she listens. Yeah, it was no.

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Speaker 9: We I love it because I don't have a lot

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of experience in it, but I've seen I've got enough

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taste of it to understand what you're you know, what

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you're talking about and yeah, and you know the thing

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that amazes me is, you know, with what we talk

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about on this show, how many former police officers and

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detectives and and people that are spread all through that

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type of work. You know, you see something or here's

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something that you don't understand, and that's just the way

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you're trained to try to figure it out. And you know,

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that's that's kind of how you got started accidentally, wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It It is. I mean, the things that happened to

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started bow hunting up there. And so you know, I'm

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literally one of those people that when I came from

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the small town I'm from down here and ended up

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up there, my mind was like a piece of clay.

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taught by people and all kinds of stuff like that.

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And listen, I have to say this, where get any

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of this type of stuff. I'm nobody. I don't think

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I'm anybody. I just I've done some things over the years,

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lots of things that I can't talk talk about it seems,

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you know. But uh, but you know, I've just I

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tell kel all the time I go. You know, my

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mind is just full of insignificant knowledge that wouldn't I

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never will use anywhere anymore, you know, But but yeah,

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I uh, my mind was just kind of like you know,

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clay so anything that they taught me, I kind of

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thought that that's the way things were. So by by

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the end of my career, everything really fit into categories

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and sub categories. And you always hear me say this

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the memory bank or the rolodex of your brain, you know, so.

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Speaker 3: Use that many times after you said that, I always

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refer to Bama.

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Speaker 2: And uh, but that really was the way my brain was.

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So what got me in and I won't get into

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the story, but what got me into it was the

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things that happened. I did my normal thing. I went

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through my brain quickly, and then later on I researched

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logical things. You know, everything with me had to do

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with logic and you know, things along that line. And

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then that's how I ended up, you know, finding the

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good group of people that I got in with, which

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grew to the Woodwalker's Group, which grew into Squatching Hollow.

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five six seven people. You know, that's always a neat thing.

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little more sentimental about stuff, you know, but I always

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pull him aside at the meet and greet and I go, man,

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look at this, I go, look at how many people

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came from so many different places, you know, simply because

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they listened to something that you have, you know, that

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you put on, you know. And then I always tell him,

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you know, and you came from here and blah blah blah, but.

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Speaker 9: You know, and y'all for y'all that don't know, I

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mean you've uh you've actually hosted shows on Saldust Beasts, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you yeah, Uh, I'll tell you what. And

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this doesn't have anything to do with me, but one

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of my episodes on Sawdust Beasts had more views than

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like all of them together or something. And that's simply

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because I got Vic knd Of to come on to

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the show. Yeah, and uh, Vic could Vic had called

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me one time, and I'm sure everybody knows who Vic is. Uh,

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And he said on the week leading up to Halloween,

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he goes, I would like to have a different uh

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Bigfoot channel hosts a show leading up to Halloween. And

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then he said, and then I want you on Halloween

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to have a show and you interview somebody and uh

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and this wasn't when I had a Vic con. I

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mean that would have been the perfect thing. But I

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had Elijah Henderson on, and Elijah just a he's a

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you know, l BL expert, not just on bigfoot and

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dog men, but lore and you know, he's a historian man,

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well traveled and his and his late father was too.

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Speaker 10: But uh and and let me if I remember correctly,

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I was told, you know, Vic kind of come from

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all of this too, right, he was involved with some

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of the people back in the day that you know,

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you talk about the brain is on the tree.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of a little bit of one, a

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small one, but uh, y'all, I was.

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Speaker 9: I didn't know all these people. Everybody talks like, oh,

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you didn't know that. I'm like, no, I came along later,

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but I found out Vic used to go, uh researching

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with people that you know, right, and y'all and y'a

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would hang out and all that.

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Speaker 3: So y'all actually got to see Vic what he don't

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show his face.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for I can see the chant here. Thanks

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for Hillary for putting that up there. And it's funny

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I got. I got to mention something that I saw

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Piro uh say on here. He just said, I will

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watch that show specifically to see what Vic kind of

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looked like. Uh did you notice that?

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Speaker 3: Did he show his face?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you nobody knows what Vic

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looks like, not even me and I and I speak

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to Vic on the phone, and uh, I don't I

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don't know what he looks like. So uh, but you know,

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I think a lot of people watch the show because

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they thought that, you know, there was going to be

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you know, Vic in the square there.

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Speaker 9: And I did the same thing when he was on Woodwalkers.

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I thought the same thing in that the little circle

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put up there. And he's a super nice guy. He

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talked Amanda and I way back before we came over here,

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and he's super helpful. He's you know, you can look

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at his Facebook. You know he cares about everybody. The

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dog thing is cool. I know that's probably something we'll

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have in common. And man, it just breaks my heart

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when you post stuff. But he usually gets results. It

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gets results, people will adopted.

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Speaker 8: He has such a good following that he's able to

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get it out there to more people, and he's using

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that platform as a way to do that. I think

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that's great. And commenting on the fact that you know,

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he doesn't show his face I honestly think he's really

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smart in that aspect, in what he does and has

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far he's gotten out here in the quote unquote cryptid community.

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I hate that terminology till I find something else anyway,

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because it can be it can be vicious, and uh,

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I am. I think it's really smart of him to

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do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those people that, Yeah, he's one

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of those people that I text Merry Christmas too, are

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happy Thanksgiving to you know, and uh but yeah, but

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it's weird. How Yeah, you know, I told Spencer, I said,

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you should, you know, be proud of you know, the

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thing that's scoring on here.

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Speaker 3: You know, and y'all for y'all that haven't had a

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chance to make it.

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Speaker 9: I was nervous the first time I've said this before

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because you know, you know, me and Bama is a

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little bit like on big crowds and maybe because of

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what we did for a living and being around strangers.

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But you know, that's one of the only big crowds

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I've ever been around where.

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Speaker 3: I felt the energy, felt safe, the people, you know, most.

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Speaker 9: Everybody there has your back, you know, and it's just

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a great get together. And like I said before, you know,

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we didn't talk about Cryptis, Bigfoot or anything, dog Man

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or anything like that, and just had a great time.

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But I will tell you this, Maama, I got taken

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to the Field of the Thirteen Hours for the first time.

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So now I know, you know, we're some of these

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things that y'all talk about, and I ain't telling you now, Spencer. Uh,

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it was my idea because everybody you know, it was

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on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Oh was this? There was this here in the last

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meet and greet?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, oh, okay, yeah, okay. So I was like, look,

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y'all have been all these places. I hear about them,

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and yeah, I don't know where they're at.

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Speaker 3: So we went there.

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Speaker 9: Uh, and you're right, it's really close to where the

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dog Man Thermal Joe pat.

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Speaker 2: And very very close to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: If you follow the creek then it ends up correlating

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with where we ended up camping at in the woods,

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where something walked by and stepped down about four inches

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from my head in the tent, you know, so it

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was neat to kind of Yeah. I'm still glad that

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I named it the Field of Thirteen Hounds because it

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gives the respect to the people that recorded it, which

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was Mark and Shelley and Debbie and Larry. But that's

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almost you know, when you look at it now where

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the things that's happening, it's almost like our own weird

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LBL triangle, like the Lasting Triangle you now we have

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the because it really is an area, you know, kind

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of off if you look at it, uh you know

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Google Earth or a topo map, it really is kind

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of a bowl down in there that covered several miles

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with creeks running through it. Perfect lots of fields, but uh,

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just for me reading things and you know, listening to

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accounts and stuff like that, lots of fields, but they

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all have those tree lined ditches or creeks running between

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them where something can just drop right off down into

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uh you know, down low into one of those creeks

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and just you know, go from place to place.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's I say, well it is it's you know,

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without saying too much, it's uh, it's a perfect corridor.

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I mean, you know, from coming from a hunter's background,

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I went in the area a few times, didn't know

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that was the area, and so when they told me

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where we were going or when we pulled up, I'm like,

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oh crap, This is where I was thinking it would

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be a perfect travel way, you know, because.

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Speaker 3: Of the ridges and the creeks and you know whatever.

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I don't want to say too much, but.

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Speaker 2: Well that's really, you know, while we're talking about it,

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since we're going to talk about strange stuff tonight, that's

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really where I saw the weirdest light anomaly I've ever

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seen of all the things to happen at the Field

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of thirteen House. I mean Field of thirteen Houses known

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for vocals. I mean, that's what I mean, that's what

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you go there for. And I would say maybe a

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maybe a fifty or sixty percent success rate of all

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the times I've been there, just kind of depending on

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how many cars and stuff. And the only reason I

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tell you this is because there were several people there

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that witness this that night, and this was on the

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roadway at the Field of thirteen Hounds. Well, we had

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several people with us, but I'll just say who's close

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around me. But I'm going to estimate that there was

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probably eight to ten people standing out on that road

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because what we would do when we were there a

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lot of times, and we did it the last meet

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and greet, some group go hit that place maybe around

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midnights or so, and then if they get something and

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nobody else will go back there. If they don't get anything,

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then maybe somebody else will come back and hit it

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about you know, two o'clock in the morning. So somehow

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all of our vehicles had ended up there at the

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same time. So here we ended up the same time.

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So luckily by that time everybody had been trained enough

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to don't slam doors and don't scfover your feet, this

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and that and the other. And but anyway, several people

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are out there that I could name all of them,

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but the closest person standing to me was Debbie Porch

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is standing next to me, even though short in the

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vehicle with me, and you know, two or three cars,

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and then up there at the front somewhere is Barry Browning. Well, uh,

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most of those people, including Barry, doesn't know what's off

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that roadway. Debbie and I and maybe maybe two other people,

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we know where the places are at that I call

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hog Pond, which is a beautiful spring fed, clear pond

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up in the woods that we did put that by

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a man. You put a game cam on that pond

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while we were at the meet and greet up there.

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But anyway, think.

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Speaker 3: Pyro said he went back with him to retrieve them later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the hogs have really got it. And I

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saw early hog sign because I was kind of looking

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at stuff like a hunter, and they really had started

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to even wear the bark off the trees down to

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the soft you know, just rubbing the mud off and

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stuff like that. And I looked at the game cam

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photos and now those trees they had eroded the sides

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back far enough up under the root balls that some

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trees had fallen into the pond. All to say, DeBie

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and I knew where the pond was at, where the

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backfields were at, and we're just kind of standing there

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next to each other, and we as usual, we all

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probably stood out there probably ten minutes, you know, to

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let vehicles stop popping and making the hot noises and

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you know, things along that line. And what's funny is

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I never know who's going to do a call, you know,

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And even in this many years of doing this, I

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always feel like if I do a call, there's going

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to be fifty percent of the group that's going to go,

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what in the world's he doing a call for? This?

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Early Yeah, I always feel like I'm going to get criticized,

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you know.

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Speaker 9: Well it's well, look they're so experienced, they've all done

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things together.

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Speaker 3: I felt the same way.

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Speaker 9: And uh, I felt like the I guess like the

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middle schooler in the bunch, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I was proud to be there. And what I

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was impressed with.

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Speaker 9: Was we got to a certain areas on I'll just

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say it was on a bridge over some water and

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you probably know where that's at.

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Speaker 3: And Kombo had said they.

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Speaker 9: Called a dog man up one time, and he told

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me that after they blocked me in and I couldn't leave.

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Speaker 3: So h so he.

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Speaker 9: And I think I think he does that on purpose.

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He don't, you know, I don't think it's an accident

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that he did that. But anyway, so you know, he

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he was doing some calls and some codies on the

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north side went off, and then another call south side codies.

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But during that it was dying off, or it just

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died off. He did another one and we had two

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boogers sounded about the same high pitched double.

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Speaker 3: Well, it could have been one maybe that had a

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dual time.

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Speaker 9: Then obviously I've never heard an alpha mal before until

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that happened. He started in the middle of that call,

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and everything around it shut up. But what I was

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impressed with. I knew what it was, but I've never

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heard one that deep, you know, and that you know,

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you could tell.

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Speaker 3: It was a big boy.

474
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 9: Anyway, when it started, everybody froze, Spencer had the mic out,

475
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:20,039
Nobody walked over it, nobody shuffled their feet, Everybody stopped

476
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,759
what they were doing, let the mic do his job.

477
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
And when it was over, Coombo looked at me. He said,

478
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:26,200
that was a booger.

479
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: I said, I know what that was, Like, I know

480
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:31,920
what that is, sir. Yeah.

481
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 9: So and look y'all, people has never heard them before.

482
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,480
It they leave no doubt. It's the power, you know,

483
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,480
the distance and the power and all that.

484
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: So and L B. L is notorious for what I

485
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:56,240
call uh harmonizing boogers. Uh. The first the first outing

486
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720
I was ever on, and it was me and Spencer were,

487
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920
you know, with a bunch of strangers, first time we

488
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:10,759
ever went out. Those had a beginning how and Spencer

489
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,960
has a good recording of it. There's a beginning how

490
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,599
and immediately another one comes in behind it and it's

491
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:24,839
just like maybe a half octave lower, and it's just harmonizing.

492
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:31,039
Uh oh goodness. Years later, we were at a different

493
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,440
part of LBL, but not too far from the field

494
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:42,519
of thirteen Hours, and I heard the same thing really close,

495
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,680
and Larry had gotten out. Larry was actually, you know,

496
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,119
it's back when he would, you know, still do calls

497
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,519
a lot. He got out and it Oh gosh, I

498
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,480
feel like I'm getting a long winded. I apologize, but

499
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:04,720
I can tell this. It was cold, and we'd been

500
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,680
driving dirt roads and stuff like that. Well, we had

501
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200
just hit the field of thirteen house and it was

502
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:16,160
probably maybe two thirty ish or so in the morning

503
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,240
and we hit it. We didn't have any look and

504
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:25,200
I forget. I was basically tired, and I'm following Larry's

505
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,000
tail lights because he does know his where around l

506
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:34,680
Bill very well, some following his tail lights. And I've

507
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,319
got Shelley Reed is sitting behind me, and I've got

508
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:41,960
the heat on, and then the windows cracks. There's a

509
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,319
little cool air coming in, but it's warm in there

510
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,119
with Shelley just coumped on out. And if i'd have

511
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,960
been a pastor, might have taken a nap too, you know,

512
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,799
But I forget what we were doing. But we had

513
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:58,000
people that had never gone before. Well, we'd already been

514
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:02,119
to three or four stops with no look, and all

515
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,839
of a sudden, Larry just stops in the mail of

516
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:11,039
the road. Well, Mark has this telescoping pole and that

517
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:15,279
has his recorder on it, and as the door opens

518
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,880
for him to get out, always he will telescope that

519
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,359
pole up for his foot every hits the ground. And

520
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,640
I've listened to recordings of both different ways. It does

521
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,720
take out a lot of the whispering out and any

522
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:35,759
little shoe shuffling and things along that line. So Larry

523
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,359
just pulled up to stop right in the middle of

524
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,720
this dirt road, and I think nobody in the vehicle

525
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,440
with me wanted to get out because it was freezing

526
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,720
cold and everybody's tired. And I said, well, I'm going

527
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,680
to get out, but Shelley was right behind me. And

528
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,680
Shelley was awaken enough to say, listen, just roll. She

529
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,599
was just down the window, and I listened from inside

530
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,960
the truck, and I said, okay, So I rolled the

531
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,359
window down. Man. By the time that I eased the

532
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,279
door and clicked that thing shut, we were up on

533
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960
We were kind of up on top of a ridge,

534
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,880
and I noticed that right before we stopped there was

535
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,400
a little road ran off to my left, like maybe

536
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880
it would would go out a little finger ridge out

537
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,839
there somewhere. But Larry had stopped right over the crest

538
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880
of that hill. So I stopped behind him and he

539
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:37,920
got out. I opened the door, and by the time

540
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,680
my feet were hitting the ground, I was closing the door,

541
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:46,440
there was one howl that was all my legs are

542
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,519
covered in chill bumps right now thinking about it. There

543
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:53,680
was a howl that was so loud and lbl house.

544
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,480
They're notorious for they really if you listen hear enough

545
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,880
of them. They're the same note, and it's right up

546
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,880
there high, and it's usually a long, solid one, and

547
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,159
then the other one that'll come in with it. Well

548
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,559
that's what I was getting. But I started getting the

549
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,079
first one as I'm closing the door. Well, it just,

550
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,000
I mean, it shocked me. It was that close. I

551
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,400
that's the first thing I thought, was all, man, that's

552
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,039
really close. Then the second one chimed in and it

553
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:31,360
sounded like two people howling in harmony, you know, with

554
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,519
each other, one long note. Well, right then it hit

555
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,239
my brain. I thought, yes, I thought Mark Muble's got

556
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:49,880
a got his name telescopey you know, recorder and and

557
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
the how just and it went on. It's just it's

558
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,920
a spectacular and I just thought, I really thought, that's

559
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,639
one of the closest, loudest, best ones I I've ever

560
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:04,880
heard in my life. But now we can go back

561
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,360
to camp. It's freezing cold, and I'm tired, and i

562
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,119
want to go back to camp because this was like

563
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,559
a camp out with people, you know, where we were

564
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,239
taking people out and we wanted them to have fun.

565
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,400
You know, I'm thinking, thank god he got it on

566
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:25,559
this recording. Well, as the house started, Mark had walked

567
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:30,480
up and he didn't telescope the recorder, he just kind

568
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,039
of holding it in his hand walking stick hiped well,

569
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,159
he walked up to the side of the vehicle and

570
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,679
he asked Shelley. He goes, Shelly, you're going to get out,

571
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,559
maybe do a call. And Shelley said Mark, she goes,

572
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,880
it's cold and I'm just tired. I don't feel like

573
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,360
getting out and doing a call. And in the background

574
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,159
you can hear those houds on and on, and we

575
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,719
really wanted to try to clean it up and try

576
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,000
to trying to play it because it was incredible. But

577
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,599
Shelley just said, you know, I don't know I sound

578
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
I mean, I sound like I'm being a hawaiiye you know,

579
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,360
or something like that. She goes, they don't realize we

580
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,039
haven't slept, you know, forty eight hours and it's cold,

581
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,280
you know. So that that was another thing that happened there.

582
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 9: Well, you know, we we we went past, we left

583
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,800
the bridge, and you know, some of those roads are

584
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,559
pretty rough, y'all. And I wouldn't advise going by yourself

585
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,960
one vehicle because you get back in there with no

586
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:39,159
signal and have a flat.

587
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very very much. Places where there's no sick.

588
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 9: And we you know, we passed this something and I

589
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:49,960
caught it out of the corner of my eye. It

590
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400
was on the right side of the truck. And we

591
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,800
got down to a main road and Combo was leading.

592
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,519
Speaker 3: I was behind him. Debbie and Larry had a truck load,

593
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,679
and then Spencer and Anthony. We were all together.

594
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 9: So he came up to the my window and I said,

595
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,239
what are we doing? He said, well, I won't go

596
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,360
ask them if you want to go to this place

597
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
or that place. I said, hey, by the way, what

598
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,960
was that back there on the right side of the road.

599
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: I have never seen this look in his eyes. He

600
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,320
leaned in.

601
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 9: He said, that is a place that you never ever

602
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
go at night. I don't care how many people you

603
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:31,880
have with you. And I'm like, okay, you don't have

604
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,639
to tell me twice as.

605
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,559
Speaker 2: You say the name.

606
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,559
Speaker 8: That's scary.

607
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't want I tell you that's where they

608
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,320
have heard that where they found the big bird nest.

609
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: Uh no, I don't know if I don't know if

610
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,440
it's been given a name.

611
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: Uh uh, just let's say the Booger House.

612
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me tell you this. Uh there's

613
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,159
really only two places. Of course, there's really only two

614
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:07,400
places where I felt uneasy with people with me. One

615
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,639
of them we just called it the creepy Cemetery. I

616
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:14,639
mean that's if you watch any shows and Spencer's been

617
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:22,920
there two or three times. It's so claustrophobic. I don't

618
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
know if it's surrounded by cedar trees, you know, and

619
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:29,280
cedar trees really break up sound a lot, so it

620
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,800
doesn't travel through there much. But if you had went

621
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,880
in there with your eyes closed, right in the back

622
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,760
seat of a vehicle, and then they got you out

623
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,400
and then you opened your eyes, you would have immediately

624
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,440
felt like it just closed in on you, you know,

625
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,280
all of a sudden, it felt like everything was right

626
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,440
close to you all the time. The other creepy place

627
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:56,519
is probably the field of thirteen Hours, just because all

628
00:38:56,559 --> 00:39:02,280
the history. Yeah, but you know, I was standing close

629
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,159
to Debbie on that road it with several other people,

630
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,239
and Barry Browning was somewhere up towards the front. And

631
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,960
we have a we have certain calls we do or

632
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:20,119
have been entrusted with or talked to by other people.

633
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,519
Uh and uh so we have just calls that were

634
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,199
used to that usually get good paybacks. Well, Barry kind

635
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:34,480
of did this modified call and shortened it. And you know,

636
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,719
you know normally when you get out there, you just

637
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,840
you know, just scream your guts out, you know, you know,

638
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:44,320
just screaming your head off. Well Barry came off with this.

639
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:49,360
It was really smooth and quiet, and it was I

640
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,599
don't know how to say this. It was maybe about

641
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:57,440
a third of the call cadence and call that we do.

642
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,039
And of course, so I didn't know anybody was going

643
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,920
to do a call. And he let off that call

644
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,679
well before he did it. We had kind of maybe

645
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,679
shuffled away from the group up the roadway a little

646
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,519
bit because it's a long straight road and we were

647
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:20,840
using a thermal, so we're thermaling that field, and also

648
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,920
we're kind of watching the field behind because nobody's watching

649
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,280
their backs. People have a tendency when they go to

650
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,039
the field of thirteen house, they just face the field

651
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:36,920
because that's where the house came from. Well, they actually

652
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,800
came from across the field, across a creek, across a field,

653
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,280
and way up a ridge and over the top of

654
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,639
the ridge. That's where they originated at. But you know,

655
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,039
so we're kind of watching people's backs.

656
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 8: And.

657
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:58,599
Speaker 2: Debbie goes look at that light up there, and you know,

658
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,599
we kind of look up there, and of course there's

659
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,400
some people close to us. You know, we're not even

660
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,239
talking that loud. She was looking at that light up there,

661
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:10,199
and it's noticeably brighter than all the other lights in

662
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:17,920
the sky low, you know, above the trees. Now we're

663
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,239
up there, you know, close to Fort Campbell, so you

664
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,480
get helicopters and stuff, especially the people to meet and greet.

665
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,280
Contest to the fact that sometimes a big shouldn't hook

666
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,039
might come over a couple.

667
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,039
Speaker 3: Of times the show. Yeah, they got.

668
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,159
Speaker 2: But you know, so I'm thinking things along that line.

669
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:45,119
But as I'm looking at it, I told her, I said, well,

670
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:48,800
if that's a hell and it was moving slowly, you know,

671
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,199
straight horizontally, and I said, if that is a helicopter,

672
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:59,239
I said, well, that spotlight is remaining completely stationary, facing

673
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,400
straight up us. Then I said, otherwise it would be

674
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,519
you know, I said, you know, I've been in helicopter

675
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:11,119
several times. And we watched it and it flew over

676
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:17,159
and it stopped. Well when it stopped there for maybe

677
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,079
ten seconds, we're just looking at it, and I said,

678
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,280
that's right over the top of hog Pond. And I

679
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,800
think maybe me and her were the only ones that

680
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,760
knew what I was talking about, but I said, I

681
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,440
think that's I said, that is over the top of

682
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,760
hog Pond. That's when Barry let out that smooth call.

683
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,639
I've already got chill bumps before ever even say it.

684
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,840
When he finished that call, there was the longest howl

685
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,119
came from hog Pond, which I've never had one come

686
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:53,920
from that angle before. Well, as soon as it started

687
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,840
immediately and there was some low ambient light from starlight

688
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920
and stuff out there. Uh, you know, I immediately could

689
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,960
see people kind of you know, turn you know, that direction,

690
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,079
and of course maybe you get kind of the whisper

691
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:10,440
of oh do you hear that, you know, but not

692
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,159
not much. It was it was people were really great.

693
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,079
Speaker 6: Uh.

694
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:19,599
Speaker 2: When the house started, everybody really got quiet because we

695
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,440
try to explain to it. And I'm telling you what,

696
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:25,920
the first one I heard, I wasn't quite Spencer's got

697
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,599
it on tape, and I may have even said some

698
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:33,039
things that I shouldn't have said, you know, because because

699
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:37,920
it jumbled my brain, you know. And we're talking about

700
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,320
that later too. But uh, but we're we're already facing

701
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:49,159
hog Pond and now we're talking a quarter of a

702
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,079
mile away. So think about a drag strip from one

703
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,119
end to the that's about how far away we are

704
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:01,440
from hog Pond cross field and through the woods and

705
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,159
the lights right above it. When the house started, we're

706
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,960
already facing that direction, and we were just kind of

707
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,719
like we were just kind of like whoa, you know,

708
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,800
really quiet. The light immediately just went straight down. And

709
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,079
when I say it went straight down, it's like it

710
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,840
just dropped. It's almost like it's almost like it was

711
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,159
suspended and somebody clipped the wire and it was that

712
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,400
type of hilosophy as it dropped like a like when

713
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,719
you see a shooting star, you know how they have

714
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,119
kind of like a strange travel to them, you know.

715
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,519
Well it was like that. That's when the entire group

716
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,840
just went whow. I mean, there was there just wasn't

717
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,840
even being quiet. Then we done heard the hound. Now

718
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,920
the light comes down, and I mean even even I

719
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,599
was just like, oh, you know, we're just like grabbing

720
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,519
each other's arms in the dark, you know. And uh,

721
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,559
I like telling that one because there were so many

722
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:07,119
witnesses there, you know, to see that that that light

723
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,320
thing take place.

724
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,559
Speaker 9: Is that the one where Davey said that it looked

725
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,000
like there were sparks dripping off the off of it

726
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,480
and falling down. Is that the same orb or is

727
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,239
that a different one.

728
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. I before the meet and greet, uh,

729
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:29,239
for people that were there and for people that weren't there.

730
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,480
I usually I try to have a little camp out

731
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,599
every year and uh, you know and invite people or

732
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,679
just you know and tell them, you know, invite a

733
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:40,599
couple of people. And you know, I'm not trying to

734
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:43,800
do a giant thing, but it usually do it somewhere

735
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,400
around Thanksgiving, you know, maybe a little before, a little

736
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,360
after or something like that. So this year we're at

737
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,320
Bankhead and uh, there was a few people there and

738
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,400
Coon Bow was there, and Greg came by. Because we're

739
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,000
close enough where people can go visit Gregg's man cave,

740
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:06,599
you know, things like that, lots of hiking. So I

741
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,199
had a group there, maybe ten people. Wendell is on

742
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,280
here and he was there. Uh, and uh, we're just

743
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
sitting there one night. This is one of two strange

744
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,519
things that one of three strange things that happened, one

745
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:28,320
that I just cannot explained. There's no way to explain it.

746
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,159
But we just got back from somewhere and it was

747
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,559
dark and I was at the back of my truck

748
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,079
and I had to tailgate down. I had my flea

749
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:44,519
around my neck and h and we had a nice

750
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:48,199
fire going. Everybody's sitting around the fire. And Rodney walked

751
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,000
off and there's a little road that goes through the campground.

752
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,320
This is this is now, this is primitive campground. We're

753
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,119
the only people there.

754
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

755
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,159
Speaker 3: He walked to the little the same place I tried

756
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:00,000
to find you that time.

757
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: No, that is a campground that has a restroom and

758
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:07,679
camping spots and stuff that. So we're just kind of

759
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:12,079
scattered out. But we're sitting around the fire and Rodney

760
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,400
walked out there to the little road to relieve himself.

761
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,880
It's probably maybe seventy ten yards at that, you know,

762
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,599
just to get out there. Well, I had my fleer

763
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:24,639
hanging around my neck. I was kind of messing around

764
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:28,199
the truck and he says to his wife, he goes

765
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:33,039
care and come over here a second. And uh. And

766
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,679
the first thing that I thought was it has to

767
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,639
be something for him to ask care and to get

768
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,320
out of the chair from under a blanket. And she

769
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:48,000
was holding Kell's little fuzzy white dog that we you

770
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:52,440
know that we got now. Uh, So she got up.

771
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:55,920
That's when I turned my flip, you know, turned my

772
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,960
fleer on to see what they were doing over there,

773
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,840
you know, watching them, and that's I was doing. And

774
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,119
I watched her walk over there and he and he

775
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,320
said something to her. And when I saw him bring

776
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,119
his arm up, I thought, oh, he's going to point

777
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,800
out into the woods. So I look, I just went ahead,

778
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,519
you know, beat him to it and just you know,

779
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,519
kind of went to look where he was looking at

780
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,840
because he has a really good thermal. I mean, Rodney

781
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,199
has a good one. Uh Well, when I look back,

782
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,199
he was pointing up into the sky. So I kind

783
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,960
of circled back around the truck the other way and

784
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,079
came in from where the fire was, and I said, uh, man,

785
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,559
what are you looking at? And he goes, man, come

786
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,599
here and look at this up in the sky a minute.

787
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,840
And I said, all right, and uh and you know,

788
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,079
you do one of those deals where you're either right

789
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:51,360
behind somebody or they stand behind they run their finger

790
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,360
over your shoulder. We did one of those deals. And

791
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,000
he goes, look at that line up there. He goes,

792
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,960
it's that thing moving. And you know, I just stood

793
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,199
there and watched it for a minute, and it was

794
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,159
easy to determine that this was something far away. And

795
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,000
when I say far away, I told him, I said,

796
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,559
that is far away enough to be over Huntsville or

797
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,599
a Decatur or that many miles away. But and I

798
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,960
text Spencer maybe after we had all been sitting and

799
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:37,760
watching it for three hours, and we eventually got to where,

800
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,000
once you knew where it was, we could sit around

801
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:48,639
the fire and just watch it. The closest movement that

802
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,760
I could like in this thing too, was a drone.

803
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,960
And you know how a lot of times people hover

804
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,760
drones and they just especially when they come to stop,

805
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,000
they kind of have that rocky rocky, you know, you know,

806
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:06,599
rocket like this. That was the only thing that was

807
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,239
close shook something that would have made these movements straight

808
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,800
up and down. It's it wasn't an airplane, it wasn't

809
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,039
a helicopter. And what's weird is if you really got

810
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:23,880
we tried to film it, hold on to second.

811
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 9: Please, Well, what's fun you know, having people on somebody's

812
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,039
at the door, hang on all right, okay? What's fun

813
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,679
about having people on that you know is like knowing

814
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,159
worth where they're talking about. And what I alluded to earlier,

815
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:45,599
Bama was camping and I went down to I think

816
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:48,119
I went to see Greg Heather and I did, and

817
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:50,079
we're going to go try to find him, but there's

818
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:51,800
no service, no cell service.

819
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,119
Speaker 3: So he told me.

820
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 9: It gave me a location and I had to try

821
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,639
to find it the old way and it was beautiful.

822
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Bankhead National Forest is absolutely beautiful. And we've heard yeah,

823
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,239
and we thought we're in the right place, and he's right.

824
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,760
There was a bathroom and we walked over there had

825
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,800
a little a little walkway, a little raised walkway, wooden

826
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:15,880
and over there and there's like weeds and stuff and

827
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,280
trees and the water. And we're standing there out there

828
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,239
by ourself, and I heard a low growl just over

829
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,559
the water, and Heather said, what's that? I said, that

830
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:29,760
means it's time to go. I don't know what it is,

831
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,119
but it sounds big enough that what I had with

832
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:33,039
me what't gonna help us?

833
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: None, Yes, we we. I tailed it back to the truck.

834
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:41,960
And that's another place I don't want to go in

835
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:46,639
just one vehicle. I was nervous in the daytime, but.

836
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:49,639
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was talking about.

837
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: Windows UFO.

838
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: Well, Rodney's one that spotted it. Uh, well, this is

839
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,199
the best wine. Describe it. And I told this dispenser.

840
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:08,800
I said, it looks like a light that's writing incursive

841
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:14,320
in the sky, and all the letters are writing over

842
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:20,559
each other. So it's simply writing, you know, letters over

843
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,719
and over each other. And then every once in a

844
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,119
while it was so crazy that people would just be

845
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:31,760
sitting talking, you know, having on a conversation and watching it,

846
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:33,679
and all of a sudden it would make such a

847
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,920
wild maneuver that everybody would go, WHOA like this. So

848
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,679
we watched it till we literally went to bed, and

849
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,400
one night we went to bed at two am. The

850
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,400
next night, it gets dark and we're like, oh, you know,

851
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:54,800
Rodney's comment's going to be here, the Rodney comment, And

852
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,400
and it wasn't up there. Well somewhere between ninety five

853
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,239
and ten o'clock there it was again doing the exact

854
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,079
same thing, and we watched it washed it. Now here's

855
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:12,280
what's interesting. I was joking with Rodney because when we

856
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:16,360
have the meat and Greeter, when we're down at a

857
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,280
Colson always camp way off in that milk by that

858
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,840
dried up creek.

859
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,199
Speaker 9: Lately, I've named that area that's Bamo Spot. That's my

860
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,280
special name for it.

861
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,679
Speaker 2: And yeah, but Rodney and yeah, and it's good to

862
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,880
be over there because I'm kind of let moose run

863
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,519
loose and he's got to where his his hearing isn't

864
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:40,880
that great. Yeah, but Rodney and Karen usually camp over

865
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,079
there with us. Uh, well, i'd make I made the

866
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:46,760
joke to Rodney. I said, when it gets dark, I said,

867
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,760
I'm gonna look for the Rodney coming up in Kentucky,

868
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,599
you know, to see if it's up there too. Here.

869
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:56,239
We are sitting there one night and it's me and

870
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:02,360
h who's your squatch, and Bigfoot Bob. They're camping in

871
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,000
one big tent. I'm in a tent by myself and

872
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,119
that was it for the time Ben, and We're just

873
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:12,880
sitting there by the fire, and I just thought, I'm

874
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,639
gonna go see if I can see if that light's

875
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,079
out there. And you know, you know where my spot is.

876
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,880
You just look out across that field. It's just beautiful. Uh.

877
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,000
And I got to looking and kind of looking, and

878
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:28,400
I found the thing. And I wanted to make sure, Man,

879
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,639
I sit there and watch a thing, man. And I

880
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,960
watched it like you know, with my fingers, like to

881
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,760
a gun sight, and would put something stable against it,

882
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,519
you know. Me and Debbie at Bank had worked putting

883
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:43,920
it against a stable tree object to make sure it

884
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,800
was mood. You know, we're trying to scientific sed up,

885
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,039
you know. But sure enough there it was again. And

886
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:54,440
I said, uh, Jamie, come here and look at this.

887
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:58,599
As who's your squatch? He comes over and I said, man,

888
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,039
look at that, I said, Rodney spot of this and

889
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,880
by this time, and believe you me, with my mind,

890
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,039
I won't just I didn't know how to research it

891
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:14,079
or anything. But this had to be some completely natural

892
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:20,000
something that takes place, natural that's out in space for something.

893
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,639
Or I told her Rodney, I said, it's like something

894
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:30,800
that's within a layer of gases between us and the stars,

895
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,320
and so it's like heat waves making it flicker and

896
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,840
look like it's doing this. Only thing I come up with,

897
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,599
sure enough.

898
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,199
Speaker 3: So let me ask you. You know, you've been there

899
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:42,559
a ton.

900
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,119
Speaker 9: I've been there a pretty good bit, so you know

901
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,360
we're being they're keeping an eye on us, you know,

902
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,079
the helicopters when they come over and do a role

903
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:56,639
turn and turn right on top of you know, and

904
00:55:56,679 --> 00:56:01,639
go back. Even the night we were out with you know, Debbie,

905
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:04,599
Larry and Coombo and Spencering all them, we were at

906
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:08,679
the field of thirteen House and what was wild was

907
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:12,480
going back to that story that y'all experienced about the

908
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:14,480
orb and the light. All of a sudden, this light

909
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,119
up here just above the tree line, looking.

910
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: To the right side of the road. If you're you know, away,

911
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:21,400
I don't know how.

912
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 9: To explain it, but anyway, you know where the camp

913
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
is on the left up there. Yes, we're looking opposite way.

914
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,760
All of a sudden, this light appears over the tree

915
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,440
line and I did the same thing you did. I'm like,

916
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,400
that just came on and there's a little bit of

917
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,280
whispering like uh oh, and I'm thinking, well, that's a helicopter.

918
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,639
It's got to be coming straight at us. Oh, and

919
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:54,199
then it turned and I know, you know, being around

920
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,760
the Metro Nashville and their helicopters, did y'all ever have

921
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,280
a light on a helicopter that would alternate like down up, down, up, down,

922
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,639
up search light. It wasn't smooth. It would go down

923
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,320
and then back up. It was definitely a helicopter.

924
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: But well, we had some really good spotlights on those things.

925
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,800
But if you if really, if you looked at it

926
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,199
and saw this round globe looking thing kind of like

927
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:26,880
a security light, you know that was our flear. That

928
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,880
was a firm on the front of our helicopter. That

929
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,719
thing was awesome.

930
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 9: Well, this was a spotlight and it was alternating like

931
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,559
but anyway, the question I got, it's like they kind

932
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,199
of got close to us, and you know, I'm sure

933
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,519
you know Joe with hel being hollers in here, and

934
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:48,840
they spend a lot of time at the LBL, and

935
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,000
I don't know if they're I had a theory just

936
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:54,320
throwing stuff against the wall.

937
00:57:56,639 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: My dog was acting weird this time. Uh uh, flat

938
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:02,320
Rocks dog was acting weird.

939
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,159
Speaker 9: I talked to somebody else that their dog was a

940
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:10,679
little bit off. And I'm wondering if they either keeping

941
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:13,079
an eye on us or helping us out, you know,

942
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,800
if they are emitting some kind of sound. They know

943
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,199
these things are there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

944
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:22,760
And they don't make it a secret that they're checking

945
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,800
up on you either. So I don't know what's going

946
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,800
on there with the military, but I guess it's their

947
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,159
job to, you know, make sure everybody's safe. But it's

948
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,119
it's weird when I can understand one passover, but we

949
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,559
had multiples that one night, well Wednesday or Thursday.

950
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: Night, I don't remember. And some of them they wanted

951
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,760
us to know that they were keeping it on us.

952
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,039
Speaker 2: Some things to take into consideration is a lot of

953
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:57,039
times when they have controlled burns, they're flying there at

954
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,920
night because at night you could see hot spots, you know. Uh,

955
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,119
in the in the woods and stuff like that. And listen,

956
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:10,280
I'm not making up excuses for the for the black helicopters.

957
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,199
But and another thing is, uh, you know I keep

958
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,280
up with like the state site and stuff like that. Uh,

959
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,239
you know, shooting these hogs from a from a helicopter,

960
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,039
you know. I mean I hunted. I hunted there for years,

961
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,079
and I always you know, we were always saying, why

962
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:36,239
don't you let us shoot hogs? I mean we'll be

963
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,119
sitting there with a bow and there'll be a line

964
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:41,559
of fifteen of them come back. You know what what

965
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:44,599
I mean, why won't you to let us shoot them?

966
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:47,079
Speaker 3: I mean, turn the hunters losing man. That's some of

967
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,039
the best eating you can get as a long man.

968
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,599
Speaker 9: Just now, speaking of the controled burns, they definitely were

969
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:58,519
doing that there. We we went one day, Heather or

970
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:00,280
now we of course we got there on Tuesday. We

971
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,159
had plenty of time, and we turned, we went past

972
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,280
the field of thirteen hours before I knew what that was,

973
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,719
took a left and went by the spot where Joe

974
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:15,760
and Pat and Robert you know, got that thermal footage.

975
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,639
And then I'm like, I don't know if we should

976
01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:21,480
go up this way, but they led us through and

977
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,400
the fire was coming all the way up to the road. Yeah,

978
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,960
and it was some of the coolest lighting and and smoke, and.

979
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: I got some really cool pictures of that.

980
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:36,239
Speaker 9: But I said, well, you know, the workers don't look

981
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,559
at their panicking, so I'm not going to panic too hard.

982
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: But and I saw something the other day where they

983
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,719
were talking about eradicated, eradicating all the hogs out of LBL.

984
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 9: That was on like an official website that somebody shared,

985
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:57,800
right all of them. Now what now as as a

986
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,000
hunter growing up and then and seeing a bigfoot, you know,

987
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:04,039
several of those, you know, and all this stuff that's

988
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,760
happened to us lately. And I'm thinking, Okay, if you

989
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,920
get rid of the foods horse, then what what's going

990
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:13,639
to happen now?

991
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,599
Speaker 3: Where they know where they get more? I don't know.

992
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't say, violin, there's places at l B A Uh.

993
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,800
I was sitting talking to a man in this little

994
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,800
town that I live in, and he's an accountant.

995
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 7: Uh.

996
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: But he's also a big hunter. And when I say that,

997
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:41,960
I mean he goes to you know, Prince of Wales Island,

998
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:45,519
he goes to Alaska. He goes to Saskatchewan. So in

999
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:48,280
his office he has, God, I should have sent you

1000
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,519
these pictures. He has a big black bear mounted a

1001
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,280
full mount in his office and then on the wall

1002
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,599
these pictures where he's he's done, like, uh, they call

1003
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:03,559
it the Big five or something. You know. Uh, that's

1004
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:07,199
your mountain. Goat your caribou.

1005
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1006
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: See. And he and I were sitting there talking and

1007
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,920
long story short, he goes, they they flew me in

1008
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,400
in a little plane to a place that hadn't been

1009
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,199
a human, hadn't been into it in thirty years. And

1010
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,519
he said, they asked me, you know, do you want

1011
01:02:27,559 --> 01:02:29,920
to go in there and hunt? They said, we just

1012
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,360
had this area opened up, you know, and we can

1013
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,000
do it, it said. They said, literally, nobody's been there

1014
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,840
in thirty years. And he goes, yeah, I'll go. And

1015
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:46,039
he goes, I wasn't really prepared, like weather wise. Now

1016
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:49,440
he hunts Alaska and stuff like that, so he's prepared

1017
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:52,400
the ninety percent of us. And he said, but they

1018
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840
had to take me in by myself and drop me

1019
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,639
and said we're gonna go get you, buddy, and we'll

1020
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:01,079
be back in about forty five. And it's with his gear.

1021
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:04,280
He goes, great, and he said, are you going to

1022
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,559
be here be okay here alone if I'm not back

1023
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:12,960
in two hours? And he goes sure, and he goes

1024
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:15,960
cause the weather here, you know, gets pretty crazy. He goes,

1025
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,599
what if are you going to start getting really worried

1026
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:21,679
if I'm not back three or four hours? And he goes, no,

1027
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,840
I'd be all right. He goes, could you stay overnight?

1028
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:29,320
And he goes, I think I'd be okay, And he goes,

1029
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,639
all right then and he goes that plane left, and

1030
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:37,559
he goes, when the sound of it, you know, And

1031
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,280
he's one of these guys that not just doing all

1032
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,760
the hunting and getting in shape for it, literally training

1033
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,199
for these these hunts because you pay thousands of dollars

1034
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:50,840
to go in these things. Uh, you know. So he's

1035
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,880
in that kind of shape, you know, watches all the

1036
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:55,840
does lots of bushcraft. But you know, I said, you

1037
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,360
ever watch alone. That's how we started this conversation. And

1038
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,920
he goes, all watch it all the time.

1039
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,039
Speaker 7: Uh.

1040
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: He goes one time one season they filmed it where

1041
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,440
I hunt on this lake, I mean literally and he said, uh,

1042
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,440
he said, when that plane left, he goes, man, he goes.

1043
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:19,519
There was just this feeling of just wow, you know,

1044
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:22,000
whow I look at this, just in awe, you know.

1045
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:25,519
He goes. Within an hour went by, and then an

1046
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:29,119
hour and a half and two hours went by, and uh,

1047
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:32,360
he said, then there was this. He goes. A longer

1048
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,960
time that went by. He goes, the smaller and the tinier.

1049
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:41,119
I felt out there, and he said, he said something

1050
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:43,119
like I was carrying He goes, Now, I was carrying

1051
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:48,000
a seven millimeter you know, magnum and blah blah blah.

1052
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,599
And he goes. So, you know, I you know, he goes,

1053
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,119
he goes, I've hunted wolves. I literally have hunted grizzlies,

1054
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:58,800
you know. He goes. So I wasn't too worried about that.

1055
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:03,280
And he goes, and then it started to you know,

1056
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,039
be more hours. He goes, and I thought, well, I

1057
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:09,440
guess I better, you know, put a shelter out here.

1058
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,760
You know, long story short, he said, he set a

1059
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,039
shelter up. He said, I was absolutely determined that I

1060
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,119
was going to be, you know, spending the night not

1061
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:24,800
fully equipped. But he said, I just thought to myself, Man,

1062
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,800
if I do this, I'll just I'll be something different.

1063
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,360
I feel differently. You know, after I have to go

1064
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
through this, he goes then eh, he hears a plane

1065
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400
in the distance, you know, as it shows up. So

1066
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,800
when they talked about killing all the hogs, there's places

1067
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:49,400
in lb L that we would islands. We were kayak too,

1068
01:05:49,639 --> 01:05:54,239
to bow hunting stuff. There's just there's places in LBL

1069
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,360
that in the middle of the daytime it is just dark,

1070
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,599
you know, an eerie and and mall sy and it

1071
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,840
just like you know, there's places in there kind of

1072
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,719
like the Pacific Northwest. It's just like a rainforest in there.

1073
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 9: You know, I want to shift a little bit, you know,

1074
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:14,760
talking about weird stuff, I think the next thing.

1075
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: You know, we've we hear reports all the time.

1076
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 9: You watch documentaries and people that go out, you know,

1077
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,559
miles into the woods and outside at night and they

1078
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,519
talk all over the country. They talk about this metallic

1079
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:34,400
sound in their Bigfoot area. And you know, we've we've

1080
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,840
heard that three times. But two times it was a

1081
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,440
little different. And the third time it was on the

1082
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,159
south end of the county and I almost thought it

1083
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:48,239
was an animal in a cage on another farm. You know,

1084
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,880
I'm trying to go through that bank of the sound,

1085
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,119
you're talking about right, what right? I'm like, yo, mama,

1086
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,199
and I'm trying to put it together, like, Okay, could

1087
01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:02,159
it be a dog on a chain and the chain's

1088
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:05,199
hitting a metal water bucket or you know, I've heard

1089
01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:10,039
that I could, I couldn't place it. And this place is,

1090
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:12,039
you know, pretty active, not every time.

1091
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: But certain times a year.

1092
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:19,119
Speaker 9: And I know you've you've experienced a metallic sound where

1093
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:19,760
it shouldn't be.

1094
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,519
Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that.

1095
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:28,239
Speaker 2: I had heard uh mention of that or somebody mentioned

1096
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,440
that before, and if you went back on on the

1097
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,840
Sawdust Beast channel.

1098
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,559
Speaker 10: Uh.

1099
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:37,639
Speaker 2: I got to kind of this is just the way

1100
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:39,960
my mind works. I got kind of hung up on

1101
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:43,199
it a little bit. And I tell everyone to watch

1102
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:46,800
this documentary. I was watching The Missing for one one.

1103
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:52,039
The Hunted, such a great documentary. Just oh, I get

1104
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:56,079
chill monstious thinking about it. And it's nothing about hunters

1105
01:07:56,119 --> 01:08:00,559
that go missing. But you have to watch the because

1106
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,239
they have Ron Moore head on there and there's all

1107
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,679
kinds of good stuff in their excellent, excellent documentary. And

1108
01:08:07,719 --> 01:08:13,800
I'm watching the documentary and there's a gentleman at the

1109
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,479
start of the documentary his name was Thomas Messick, and

1110
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,399
on Sawdust Beast I did an entire show on Thomas

1111
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,439
Messick going missing hunting. And the thing that really got

1112
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,840
my attention about that was in this group of hunters

1113
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,479
that he was with, the man closest to him had

1114
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,760
already passed away by the time they started doing these interviews.

1115
01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:46,000
But one of the guys that was along this hunting

1116
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:53,239
drive row that these guys were set out on, he

1117
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:58,720
said he heard a strange noise. And when they were

1118
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,199
doing the interviews, they they said, did you hear anything?

1119
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:04,319
Did you see anything? And one of the guys, one

1120
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:08,600
of the man's son, said well no, but so and

1121
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,159
so said that they heard something. So they end up

1122
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,520
going to this man. Of course they get to ask him.

1123
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,319
He's still alive, and they said, did you hear something

1124
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:18,640
that day? He goes, ah, you know, I just heard

1125
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,760
a little something. You'll have to watch the documentary. He goes, ah,

1126
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,079
you know, I've just kind of heard a little something.

1127
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:27,479
And he goes, well, what was it? He goes, I

1128
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,640
just kind of a little just a little, you know,

1129
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,720
kind of a noise, and he goes and he goes

1130
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,760
and he literally said something like and just kind of

1131
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,880
and I think when he I've watched enough times, I

1132
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,760
think when he did that, he was more or less

1133
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:48,720
making a gesture as to the duration of the sound.

1134
01:09:49,039 --> 01:09:51,800
I was just a little noise, you know, like I mean,

1135
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,279
that's the way we would say anything like that when

1136
01:09:55,319 --> 01:10:00,199
they ask this man's buddy, who is still alive? Did

1137
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,840
he tell you he goes? He said it sounded like

1138
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,640
a metal noise, like a giant his exact words, a

1139
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,439
giant trap slamming shut. That's what he said it sounded like.

1140
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:18,039
Speaker 3: And that's the similarity, is just what you said. Uh,

1141
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:18,920
that's the key.

1142
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 9: It's like a lot of people have compared it to

1143
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,600
like there'll be like five miles back in the mountains,

1144
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,880
no roads and hear car door slam, you know, a

1145
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:33,279
similar That's what that's what they, uh compare it to.

1146
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 8: So that's I've heard it described too sometimes almost like

1147
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:44,079
big bunker kind of doors. Just that really loud, scraping

1148
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,199
metal sound as well.

1149
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: That was us.

1150
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used the word a snap in there somewhere. Uh.

1151
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,560
Just you know, I tell anybody, it's funny. The guy yesterday,

1152
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:01,479
you know that that hunts, you know, all up in

1153
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,119
some rugged country uh, I go. I used to go

1154
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:07,359
to church with him, is what it was. I saw.

1155
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,279
I said, I know, I've told you this. I said,

1156
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,199
you got to watch Missing for one one the hunted,

1157
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,760
I said, you got to watch that. But anyway, it's

1158
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:24,199
so that kind of got me hooked on that. Just

1159
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:30,359
this was the closest thing to hearing or see anything,

1160
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,479
seeing anything that anybody had come across so far in

1161
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,880
one of these Missing for one one cases. I mean

1162
01:11:38,119 --> 01:11:43,319
there's there's cases that I've actually been to the spot

1163
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,800
before where they have been in a row of people

1164
01:11:47,239 --> 01:11:51,359
and simply go missing while they're in a hiking in

1165
01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:54,319
a row of people, you know, things like that, and.

1166
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 9: Those I've watched those in The scary part is, like

1167
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,159
you said, you know the people were within sight, Yeah,

1168
01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:04,720
and then.

1169
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: They're not and they're never found.

1170
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:11,279
Speaker 9: Now, as a police former police officer and somebody, you know,

1171
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:13,079
the first thing they're going to do is look at

1172
01:12:13,119 --> 01:12:14,159
everybody in that group and.

1173
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: Say what did y'all? Do you know? But then there

1174
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,720
was one case I don't remember it might have been

1175
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,680
on one of those documentaries that Pilates.

1176
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 9: Did, but there was a gentleman that they were on

1177
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,359
vacation and he walked back in a trail maybe like

1178
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:31,680
in Utah or somewhere, and back in the canyon. One

1179
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,279
way in, one way out. Bunch of people there, and

1180
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:36,640
he disappeared. No way, there's no way to get out.

1181
01:12:37,239 --> 01:12:40,920
And somebody had a picture of him that when they

1182
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,199
saw it was missing, they took family photos and there

1183
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:44,840
he's standing.

1184
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,279
Speaker 3: And then he's never seen, never heard from again.

1185
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,199
Speaker 8: And I remember hearing.

1186
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:51,199
Speaker 2: I remember that one.

1187
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 9: That's that's terrifying, because you know, if I watched the

1188
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,199
movie Jaws, and I'm scared, like scared me.

1189
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: I was a kid, I don't go in the ocean.

1190
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,000
I ain't gonna wory about his ark.

1191
01:13:01,079 --> 01:13:08,399
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I had heard that in that thing, and

1192
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,880
I just thought that, gosh, isn't it Once again, I

1193
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:16,920
say this. When they asked that guy that question, he

1194
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,560
went into that memory bank of his brain, that rolodex,

1195
01:13:21,119 --> 01:13:23,920
and that is the closest thing. And this was an

1196
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,039
elderly guy. He's heard lots of things, he's got lots

1197
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:30,000
of things stored in there. So he went through that

1198
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:32,479
thing in his mind and that's the closest thing that

1199
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:37,760
he could come to a while back. Now, this has

1200
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,199
been several this is. Before I moved back to Alabama,

1201
01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:45,640
I had begun talking to a childhood friend down here,

1202
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,159
her and her husband. You know, I've lived here their

1203
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:54,760
whole lives, you know, childhood sweethearts. And she had kind

1204
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,640
of started seeing some things, and she would send me

1205
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,640
pictures of him every once in a while, and she goes,

1206
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:04,000
I know, you think i'm you'll think I'm crazy, she goes,

1207
01:14:04,199 --> 01:14:06,800
and the people around here think I'm crazy. She goes,

1208
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,079
But I will go outside and snap pictures and I

1209
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:13,439
see things, you know, And sure enough she would. Now

1210
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,279
there's a couple of times, this is what's odd being

1211
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:19,720
in this little town she's in. There was one or

1212
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:24,079
two that really were drones. I could tell that from

1213
01:14:24,079 --> 01:14:27,000
the picture myself, and I just thought who in the

1214
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,000
world and that little town would have a drone, you know.

1215
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:35,199
But anyway, in our talk, and of course she wasn't

1216
01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:38,479
crazy because when she moved somewhere else, she never she

1217
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,159
never saw them again, you know, over there. But she

1218
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:46,840
had put me on to a guy. She within this conversation,

1219
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,399
she said, you're in the Bigfoot stuff, aren't you. And

1220
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,239
I always answer people the same way. I always go, well,

1221
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:55,039
you know, if you believe in that kind of thing,

1222
01:14:55,279 --> 01:14:59,159
you know, that's kind of like my hand. And she goes, oh,

1223
01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:02,520
you know. So, so all four of them on a

1224
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,840
double date saw one across the road. She started rattling

1225
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,199
off stories and she said, well, there's a friend of

1226
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:13,119
ours that lives in such and such county. I won't

1227
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:16,199
say the name of the county. And she said, oh,

1228
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:20,359
they've had them on their property for years and years.

1229
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,199
And this is leading into the metallic story, by the way,

1230
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:28,079
for anybody that's wondering. And she goes, they had them

1231
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:30,760
there for years. And you know me, I'm just now

1232
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,920
I'm still in Tennessee, but I'm just chomping at the bit.

1233
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:35,760
You know. You think, this guy let me come over

1234
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,319
and you know, mosey around on his land, you know,

1235
01:15:38,399 --> 01:15:41,479
and stuff like that, and you have to you would

1236
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,239
have to take into account the county that he lives

1237
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:48,600
in down here, and and it's a county ever since

1238
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,680
I was a child, he's always known for being a

1239
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,880
rough county. They do not like strangers or outsiders. And

1240
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,880
it's like that to this day. And where this guy

1241
01:16:01,039 --> 01:16:04,640
lived at So maybe after a couple of months of

1242
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,960
kind of going through her to him he let me

1243
01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:12,399
text him. So I texted him and he let me

1244
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,960
come out to his house. Now, I remember I went

1245
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,000
and visited my mother, came down to visit her, to

1246
01:16:18,119 --> 01:16:23,119
go to this guy's house, and I had to explain

1247
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:27,159
to her where I was going and why I was

1248
01:16:27,239 --> 01:16:30,800
leaving Moose at her house. I mean she lives, I

1249
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,560
mean right out in the woods. She lives way out

1250
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,359
in the woods. And she's like, why aren't you taking

1251
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,880
why aren't you taking Moose with I'm just gonna let

1252
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,199
him hang around here, you know, because I know people

1253
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:47,199
around here have some pretty rough yard dogs, you know.

1254
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:51,119
So I left him, and I told her that I

1255
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:55,000
forgot what I even told her. But sure enough I

1256
01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:59,600
got directions to his house. Typical dang slag Alabama road

1257
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,319
with pop holes and stuff patched over ten times, and

1258
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,520
you know, typical Alabama slag rode over where you have

1259
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,079
some houses, and suddenly there's the church that everybody goes

1260
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:14,199
to and walks to in the community. I think it's

1261
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:17,319
a little little Baptist church, you know. And eventually I

1262
01:17:17,359 --> 01:17:21,039
came to the guy's house. Right after I passed his

1263
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:25,319
well manicured guard, which you know, he took pride in

1264
01:17:25,359 --> 01:17:28,479
his I kind of will eye of the house and

1265
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,199
you know, and look at and see how the things

1266
01:17:31,279 --> 01:17:33,479
set up and things like that. And I could tell

1267
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,439
the guy too. As I drove my saw it on

1268
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,079
my left, and I thought, man, that guy really takes

1269
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:40,319
you know. I really thought if my dad was alive,

1270
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,600
he would say, Man, that's a fine garden that guy's

1271
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,359
got there. You know, you could tell that. And when

1272
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:49,840
I pulled in, I got met by a big pit

1273
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:53,840
bull running loose out there, and it ended up being

1274
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,600
the friendliest thing in the world. And I got out here,

1275
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,239
stands this guy and he had somebody with them. Understandably,

1276
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,359
I went armed. I left my farm in the truck

1277
01:18:09,279 --> 01:18:11,159
and I got out. We just kind of stood around

1278
01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:13,600
there and talked a few minutes behind his house, and

1279
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,680
he said, man, let's go take us a walk. I said,

1280
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,319
all right, And we kind of walked to the edge

1281
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:20,399
of the yard and it's vines and all kinds of

1282
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,279
trees and stuff. And he had him kind of a

1283
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:26,960
tunnel war out through there. And as soon as you

1284
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,359
went through that tunnel, maybe five yards through, you came

1285
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:33,079
out onto He said, as soon as we came onto

1286
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:35,800
this little road, he goes, I mean, it was like

1287
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,600
the stories started. Right Then he goes, well, this used

1288
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,720
to be a county road. He goes, and believe it

1289
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,119
or not, they used to maintain this road. And as

1290
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:48,640
he's walking, he's talking and he goes, you know, my

1291
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:52,359
great granddaddy saw his first vehicle on this road. You know,

1292
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:54,279
we're kind of talking. I'm like, this is going to

1293
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,520
be great, you know, and I'm thinking, let's get to

1294
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,119
the bigfoot stuff, you know, you know, let's get to it.

1295
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,119
But as we're kind of walking down this rut, Now

1296
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:09,039
this is a road that there's like small trees growing

1297
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:13,560
up in it. You don't see any there's no concrete

1298
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,800
or asphalt or anything. It's just you know, starting to

1299
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,600
be taken back over by nature. And as we're walking

1300
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,840
down through there, he points ahead and he goes, right up,

1301
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,520
there's an old Uh. I want to say that it

1302
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,840
was this great grandparents home. He goes, their home set

1303
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,720
right there, and so and sos homes there. And as

1304
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,359
soon as he said that, it was like he just

1305
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,039
immediately turned left and stepped off into the woods. Well,

1306
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:44,239
you know, the other guy followed him. So I turned

1307
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:47,800
left off into the woods. I went to. And I'm

1308
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,960
saying this because it's kind of pertinent. It's weird because

1309
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,319
when you walked in there, all the little trees growing

1310
01:19:54,399 --> 01:19:56,800
in and there. Maybe it had been cleared off at

1311
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,479
one time and had grown back over the years, but

1312
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,159
they were all very straight and about yay, big around,

1313
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:06,479
you know, all of them. And we're just kind of

1314
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,560
walking through there. And it is so odd that he

1315
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,359
said this because I only thought this as I walked through.

1316
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,199
I thought, oh, man, if Daddy saw those, he would

1317
01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:21,880
think those was dandy tomato poles. And anybody from Alabama

1318
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,239
knows how you steak tomatoes up with tomato posts. No,

1319
01:20:25,399 --> 01:20:28,439
sooner than I thought that, he goes, you know, my

1320
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,920
boy came in here to cut some tomato poles one time.

1321
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:37,479
And he goes, sure enough, I'm serious, and he goes, well,

1322
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,920
he goes, you see us right here post the house.

1323
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,920
He goes, so he just was gonna, you know, like

1324
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:45,680
cut a bunch and pitch him out there onto the

1325
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,560
old road and then put them in a wheelbar or

1326
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:52,119
something bring them back. And he goes, well, he's down there,

1327
01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:55,199
you know, down post to the gram cutting these things off.

1328
01:20:55,239 --> 01:20:57,920
He goes, and all of a sudden, he just stood up,

1329
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,640
got to looking around, and he goes and he got scared,

1330
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:05,399
and he just came running back to the house. And

1331
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,840
then the guy listen, he just sit and say nothing

1332
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,520
else for a second. And I said, I'm like, what

1333
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,680
do he get scared of? And he goes, I don't know.

1334
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,199
He goes that boys seeing everything. He goes if something

1335
01:21:17,279 --> 01:21:20,439
scared him, he said, And he made me come back

1336
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,920
down here with him. He goes and walk that little distance,

1337
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,840
even though I could see him. He made me walking

1338
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,039
there with him to get the saw and everything or

1339
01:21:29,079 --> 01:21:31,880
the hatchet or whatever he's using and come back out,

1340
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,000
you know, to bring him out. And as he's saying that,

1341
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:40,760
we started kind of walking through woods then. And I

1342
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,199
don't know about y'all, but if I'm in the woods

1343
01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:47,319
somewhere and I see like a big giant oak tree

1344
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,039
or something, you can tell a lot of times where

1345
01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:52,479
an old home places been by the trees that are there.

1346
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,720
For some reason. I don't know why, but even if

1347
01:21:54,720 --> 01:22:00,000
there's no remnants of the structure left, you'll still see

1348
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:02,399
those big trees and think that the house used to

1349
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:05,760
be there. Well, we were walking through the woods, and

1350
01:22:06,079 --> 01:22:08,079
also I was told to go over there when it

1351
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:12,159
was cold weather because the you know, snakes and copperheads

1352
01:22:12,279 --> 01:22:15,079
were so bad around there, and they are here. So

1353
01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:18,560
we're in there in this cooler weather and we're kind

1354
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,600
of walking through there, and I noticed those giant trees.

1355
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,720
Well as soon as I noticed them, he said, well,

1356
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,640
here's where the there he's talking about as a great grandparents.

1357
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,960
He goes, here's where their house was at. And he

1358
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,840
talked about that tree. He goes, I know, like me

1359
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,640
and this guy thought so much alike, because when I

1360
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,159
looked at the tree, when I see an old abandoned house,

1361
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:46,000
I think, gosh, there used to be laughter in there

1362
01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:50,399
and families and h you know. So when I saw

1363
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,279
that tree through the woods, I thought, man, that would

1364
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,640
make a dandy place for a tire swing, you know,

1365
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,600
for a bunch of kids. And he goes, well, we

1366
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,920
used to have was a tire swing or two up

1367
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,039
here on this tree here.

1368
01:23:03,119 --> 01:23:08,239
Speaker 9: And I was just like, all, yeah, it's getting a

1369
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:13,199
little too freaky, because like it one time is but

1370
01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:15,079
two and three and four times, that's.

1371
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: Getting a little freaky.

1372
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: It's listen, y'all. I mean this is all coincidental, but

1373
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,239
I'm just saying it's just weird, you know, yes, yes,

1374
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,840
And so we keep walking towards it. And as you

1375
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,880
walk towards it, you kind of come out of the

1376
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,119
woods and top a little hill. And this is the

1377
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:33,439
kind of place that has little out buildings that have

1378
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:39,560
already fallen down and taken over. Uh. They have those

1379
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:46,319
old water cistern little buildings, you know where the spring

1380
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,880
has water. You know, these places are old. So I'm

1381
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,520
kind of like you, No, I can recognize those things

1382
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,000
just from you know, what's in my brain. And we

1383
01:23:55,079 --> 01:23:57,560
get to walking up to the remnants of this house

1384
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,039
and it's falling down enough to where you can't go

1385
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,880
into it. But you know, this thing probably had a

1386
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,720
you know, a story and a half to it, and

1387
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,119
you see where things were added on to it. But

1388
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:13,319
you know, even the porch, even the porch is way

1389
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,800
higher above your head, and it had all fallen down

1390
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,279
and it was sending it was an old brick or

1391
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:22,640
rock or block or rent it or something. As we're

1392
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,840
walking up there to it, uh, he stops on the

1393
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,039
side of the house. And since it's built on a

1394
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:33,239
hill and the porch is so high, they had kind

1395
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:37,000
of a storage area like a quote unquote basement under

1396
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:39,960
there's what he called it. But you know, he goes, oh,

1397
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,520
you know this where people back then kept their canning

1398
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:46,079
and they're you know, kept stuff, you know, cool things

1399
01:24:46,119 --> 01:24:50,079
along that line. Like, so he goes basically yeah, So

1400
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:54,039
you know, he's freaking He starts into that story and

1401
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:56,319
I kind of get to walking ahead of him, because

1402
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:58,840
once I get to this house, I'm kind of like, Wow,

1403
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,680
this is really pretty big house to be out here,

1404
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,840
you know, in the middle of nowhere. But this is

1405
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,399
all there land, you know, in the middle of nowhere.

1406
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,760
So as he kind of stops, I kind of walk

1407
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,720
on around the front of the house and I'm really

1408
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,479
standing looking out. I posted photos of all this, and

1409
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:24,239
I think the saw this beast page years ago. So

1410
01:25:24,319 --> 01:25:26,800
I really walked to the front of the house where

1411
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,720
I could look at the front of the house and

1412
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:35,039
you could kind of see through the basement. So if

1413
01:25:35,079 --> 01:25:37,920
I leaned forward, I could look through some of the

1414
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,000
brick and look through the basement and see him out

1415
01:25:42,039 --> 01:25:44,880
that side door, if y'all understand what I'm saying. And

1416
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,840
he's talking to me through the hole through the basement

1417
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,680
there and he goes, yeah, one of them dang booger's

1418
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,840
got He didn't call it a booger, but he goes, yeah,

1419
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,880
one of them things got trapped down here in the

1420
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,279
basement one time. And now this is the first time

1421
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:04,960
he's alluded to anything. You know, at first, it was

1422
01:26:05,039 --> 01:26:08,640
just a feeling that someone had gotten you know, his son.

1423
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,840
But he goes, yeah, one of them things got trapped

1424
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,520
down here in the basement, you know, and I want

1425
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:20,760
to say that it was his Uh I forgot who

1426
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,119
was with him or whatever, like cousins and things along

1427
01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:26,439
that line. You know, when I grew up, we were

1428
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,600
babyst by people that went to church with us as

1429
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,000
cousins or I mean, you wouldn't believe that it didn't

1430
01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:38,079
take any prerequisites to watch kids back then, you know.

1431
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Uh nope. Well he's kind of talking to me through there,

1432
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,479
and I said, down here where we're looking in. He goes, yeah,

1433
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,279
he goes, well, what it is. And I'm not making

1434
01:26:52,319 --> 01:26:54,840
fun of him, imitate me. It's just the kind of

1435
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,159
drawl and the way this guy was. He goes, well,

1436
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,600
that thing got trapped down there, cause the door opens

1437
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,520
to the inside. He goes, it goes in, the door

1438
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,560
closed behind it, and he goes, and we didn't know

1439
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,560
it was in there. You know, it's and it's so funny,

1440
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,079
but it was fascinating and it's a comical story too.

1441
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,640
But the thing that doesn't make you just laugh out

1442
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:24,199
loud is because you're standing right there looking at it.

1443
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,680
And to me, I'm standing here looking at history, and

1444
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,880
I'm listening to history, you know right now that nobody

1445
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:35,079
will get to hear. And he said, well, then it

1446
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:37,319
just sort of tearing the basement up and.

1447
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: I and I said, you called a raccoon in a case.

1448
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is the part that I'm looking through,

1449
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,319
and the porch and everything was you know, and closed

1450
01:27:49,359 --> 01:27:52,000
at that time, so it's really trapped down there, one

1451
01:27:52,039 --> 01:27:55,920
way in, one way out. And uh he said, it

1452
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,680
got to tear in the dank up basement up. And

1453
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,800
I cannot remember. I could probably have been done so

1454
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,000
much since then. Uh, I can't remember if they went

1455
01:28:06,079 --> 01:28:08,079
up and did it or if it somehow got the

1456
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:13,000
door open. But he said, this thing ran out and

1457
01:28:13,039 --> 01:28:15,800
that's what he said, was a thing. And he goes

1458
01:28:16,039 --> 01:28:18,439
and it was about yay hi And when he held

1459
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:24,119
his hand up, he was going maybe about four feet

1460
01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:27,840
high or so off the ground and he said, just

1461
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,000
came out and just covered in here. And I said,

1462
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,560
no kid, and he goes, yeah, and he goes, and

1463
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,359
of course when it came out, I mean, all of

1464
01:28:35,359 --> 01:28:38,039
them are. This is right by the big oak tree

1465
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,399
where they had to swing, and there's an old concrete

1466
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:46,000
picnic table sitting there, still sitting there. So the thing

1467
01:28:46,079 --> 01:28:49,159
came busting out right there. And he said, and the

1468
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,319
thing just came running out. And I'm like, what did

1469
01:28:52,359 --> 01:28:54,960
it do? You know, did it? Did it stop? Did it?

1470
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,800
I'm just like, you know, looking around.

1471
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's almost as bad as seeing one.

1472
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:01,560
And you won't know what he did, you won't know.

1473
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,239
Speaker 8: Details.

1474
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:10,039
Speaker 2: Right well, he said, uh, he said, the thing came out,

1475
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,560
and he said, now if you picture it this way.

1476
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,279
By the time he gets done telling the story, I've

1477
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,159
turned to my left and I've walked back around the

1478
01:29:20,199 --> 01:29:22,359
side of the house. I'm kind of standing beside him,

1479
01:29:22,359 --> 01:29:26,720
you know, looking off down into this this basement. Lots

1480
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,319
of light in there, you know, but it's full of

1481
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:31,960
leaf debris and we was caved in, you know. And uh,

1482
01:29:32,079 --> 01:29:34,720
he said, well it ran out right here, and he goes,

1483
01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:37,680
and when it got right there, he goes, that thing

1484
01:29:38,279 --> 01:29:41,720
turned left and across the road, the old road that

1485
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,279
used to be a maintain so they actually used to

1486
01:29:44,279 --> 01:29:48,640
really live right on a dirt road that had, you know,

1487
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,960
some type of little traffic on it. Uh. And he said,

1488
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,399
that thing crossed the road and off into that hall

1489
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,760
that went. And of course, when I looked then across

1490
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,159
the little now we're talking looking ten fifteen yards. I

1491
01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:05,000
looked across the little road. This is the only place

1492
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:11,000
that has that giant bamboo as big as it is

1493
01:30:11,039 --> 01:30:13,319
over there on the farm where I work. And when

1494
01:30:13,319 --> 01:30:18,479
I say big, I mean the size of a cantalope big.

1495
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,960
That's how big they are. And I looked over there,

1496
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:27,520
and of course that whole hollow was full of those bamboo.

1497
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,520
And on the Beast Facebook page, I had taken pictures

1498
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,520
and video of that bamboo, and I just said, holy macrel,

1499
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,960
look at that bamboo. And we get to walking over

1500
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,000
there to it, and he said, and it had to

1501
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:45,680
come from somewhere. He goes, yes, so and so buried it.

1502
01:30:46,039 --> 01:30:49,039
And they do it a lot as a wind break.

1503
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,079
If you see, it's usually on the north side of

1504
01:30:52,079 --> 01:30:54,479
a house where the planet and then it just gets

1505
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,119
out of hand, and so we're kind of standing there

1506
01:30:59,399 --> 01:31:02,960
and I said, well, what's on out the road? He said, well,

1507
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:05,359
once you get on out there, he goes, that's least

1508
01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:09,319
for hunting. And he goes and them fellas don't like

1509
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,880
you coming around out there. You know, they got a

1510
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,239
hunting cabin out there. And I said, okay, about the

1511
01:31:16,279 --> 01:31:19,560
time he said that off in that hollow. And you know,

1512
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,359
when I looked off in that hollow, there was you know,

1513
01:31:22,399 --> 01:31:24,079
all these bam boob but then it just kind of

1514
01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:27,920
dropped off into a normal Alabama halla. You can't see

1515
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,560
the bottom of it. It's just got a whole bunch

1516
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,800
of jump down in there. And I was kind of

1517
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,560
trying to imagine it in the spring of the summertime.

1518
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:39,680
And uh, and he goes, man, he dropped off in

1519
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,560
that hall. And we're just kind of standing there looking

1520
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:46,359
in there, and all of a sudden we hear I'm

1521
01:31:46,359 --> 01:31:48,560
going to try to remember it the best I can.

1522
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:53,239
We hear this metallic noise and it was like a

1523
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,199
It wasn't unlike a big piece of galvanized metal like

1524
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:01,880
you would have on a barn or something. Because I'm

1525
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,319
around a lot of rusty old metal all day on

1526
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:04,800
that barn.

1527
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

1528
01:32:06,359 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 2: But the sound of whatever hit it was like, it

1529
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,279
wasn't a dull sound. It was like a really cris

1530
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:20,600
snappy ting sound. I mean, even y'all trying to imagine

1531
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:25,920
this with me and your head, even something finer tip

1532
01:32:26,279 --> 01:32:29,800
than a normal hammer that you would using your house,

1533
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,000
so you understand how the tinier the tip gets the

1534
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,079
difference of sound is on the tin. And it was

1535
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:40,600
loud just one time. And uh, and I can remember

1536
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,920
as soon as as soon as it happened, we're kind

1537
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,319
of standing there in a little triangle, you know, talking

1538
01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:47,880
to each other. We all just kind of looked and

1539
01:32:48,039 --> 01:32:50,920
now this big old pit bull had gone with us,

1540
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,239
just monstrous dog, sweetest thing, but you know, it had

1541
01:32:56,319 --> 01:32:58,760
hung out with us, and it wasn't you know, it

1542
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,600
wasn't feeling any thing. Are afraid to wander off that

1543
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,159
you know, was hanging around with us, even the dog

1544
01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:06,479
ting when it heard the ting, all of us look,

1545
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,720
even the dog look. Well, then it comes, but it

1546
01:33:09,359 --> 01:33:12,640
doesn't go anywhere. It just kind of trots over and

1547
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,760
just kind of looks off into the hall. And I said, uh,

1548
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:18,680
and I remember turning around and looking back at him,

1549
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,840
and I said, uh, y'all heard that. Now, these are

1550
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,000
guys that have dealt with them forever, so there's no

1551
01:33:25,079 --> 01:33:28,199
doubt they're believers. I mean, you know what I mean.

1552
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,600
Uh So, I don't know why I said, did you

1553
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,720
hear that? But I said did you hear that? And

1554
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,840
they said, oh yeah, And I said have you ever

1555
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,920
heard it before? And he goes, no, I ain't never

1556
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,720
heard that one. And I said, what's down there? And

1557
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,319
both of them in unison said nothing. I mean, both

1558
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:53,199
of them at the same time. They said. Because even

1559
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,920
my friend Laura that I'd begin corresponding with down here,

1560
01:33:57,039 --> 01:34:00,640
she told me, she said, if you go over there,

1561
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,840
she said, don't go in the spring of the summertime.

1562
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,920
She goes. Man, she goes, there's this really bad snakes

1563
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,640
over there. She goes down in that hall is really bad.

1564
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:17,960
Incidentally enough, she moved to an area that backs up

1565
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:23,279
to oh gosh, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of acres

1566
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:26,399
is owned by one of these big lumber companies. So

1567
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,359
it's been stripped mine. So you have loads of spring fed,

1568
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,800
beautiful lakes that have grown around, lots of you know,

1569
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,239
and all this that and the other, and need to

1570
01:34:35,279 --> 01:34:37,359
go there, and you know, poke around with her a

1571
01:34:37,399 --> 01:34:41,760
little while. But that was the thing about the metallic noise.

1572
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,560
And let me say this before we go. Uh, you know,

1573
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,399
we kind of stood there and kind of walked on

1574
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,159
out and made our way out, and we're standing there

1575
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:50,840
and it's and of course I had to say something

1576
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:55,439
about his garden. He had a nice garden, and I said, man,

1577
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,560
And I said, man, you got a good garden here.

1578
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,199
And I said, uh, have you? I said, you ever

1579
01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:05,880
seen a track anywhere? And the thing about around there

1580
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,199
and in Alabama is there's a lot of uh, pine

1581
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:12,439
straw litter. See you sure don't get no tracks in it?

1582
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,840
Just uh but you know, once I got out there

1583
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,359
and saw, you know, the way his garden was, you know,

1584
01:35:17,399 --> 01:35:19,279
all tilled up, I said, have you ever seen the

1585
01:35:19,279 --> 01:35:24,439
track out here? He goes, well, he goes, years and

1586
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,840
years ago, he goes, we had something, things go missing.

1587
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,920
And I go like what. He goes, well, you know, tomatoes,

1588
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,000
you know this, that and the other and uh and

1589
01:35:36,079 --> 01:35:38,880
I said, and he goes and it was just kind

1590
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,640
of a little here and a little there. And he

1591
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,079
goes and it was always over on that far side

1592
01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:46,880
over there by the by the woods, and uh, he said. Well,

1593
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,760
then one time, he goes, we had plowed up closer

1594
01:35:51,319 --> 01:35:53,279
to the woods. He goes, We didn't plan anything, but

1595
01:35:53,319 --> 01:35:56,680
we would had plowed on up there closer. And here

1596
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,640
I come in one morning and there's one track and

1597
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,239
he goes, and it looks like maybe that thing stepped

1598
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,800
one long step and put a foot down and then

1599
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,840
reached way out and took you know, whatever it was taking.

1600
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:15,640
He goes. And he goes, not that they were robbing

1601
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,319
us or taking anything, he goes, but you know, he goes,

1602
01:36:18,319 --> 01:36:22,039
I always started thinking about what I planted on that side,

1603
01:36:22,079 --> 01:36:25,479
because instead of planning one thing over there, now I

1604
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,079
plan a little variety, so you know, they would have

1605
01:36:29,239 --> 01:36:32,239
a little of each thing, you know, or whatever. And

1606
01:36:32,279 --> 01:36:35,880
he goes, and we never had a problem. And we

1607
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,079
walked kind of walking on around the yard. Well we

1608
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,560
as we round the edge of this yard that backed

1609
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,239
up to where we've been up in the woods, up

1610
01:36:45,239 --> 01:36:51,000
there there's the clothesline. And he said, oh, so and

1611
01:36:51,079 --> 01:36:55,119
so there's so many grandmas and cousins and stories that

1612
01:36:55,159 --> 01:36:56,960
I heard that have kind of lost track of. And

1613
01:36:57,079 --> 01:36:59,760
he goes, you know, so and so came out on

1614
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:04,039
a we're standing at the clothesline, and he goes, came

1615
01:37:04,079 --> 01:37:06,840
out on the deck out there the smoke, you know,

1616
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,319
it just after dark, and said she looked out there

1617
01:37:10,359 --> 01:37:13,760
and said, who in the world left that white sheet

1618
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,279
out there hung on the clothesline? Said she looked out there,

1619
01:37:16,319 --> 01:37:19,800
and it was a big, you know, square looking white sheet,

1620
01:37:20,399 --> 01:37:25,039
and said she took two or three steps down the

1621
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:28,520
steps and took a draw and threw her cigarette down,

1622
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,520
you know how you squash it out with your foot.

1623
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,920
And she said when she looked up, the sheet literally

1624
01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:37,680
turned around and just off into the woods, just took

1625
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:43,199
on and so and so naturally, I asked him, I said,

1626
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,039
now do you think that? I go now her, I go,

1627
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:49,479
what did she think? Did she think it was a

1628
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,920
ghost or or a haint as they would have called

1629
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,439
him here back then. And he goes, no, he goes,

1630
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,520
she knew it was one of them them things, but

1631
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,920
you know, it was a white thing. And you know,

1632
01:38:05,119 --> 01:38:08,039
right then, I said, well you've heard about that. I mean,

1633
01:38:08,079 --> 01:38:12,560
there's the famous Alabama white thing, which was really just

1634
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,079
kind of in one area. I believe that there's obviously

1635
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:16,960
more than one.

1636
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 9: Well Obama, just to interject, you know, I'm twenty twenty

1637
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,199
miles from the Alabama line, and we have a Laura

1638
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,560
and Flintville, and you heard the Flintville Monster, and we

1639
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,800
got these ridges and BFR reports and all that, and

1640
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,439
you go look it up. I've heard several stories even

1641
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,479
north of here, a few miles around the interstate of

1642
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,720
white ones, you know, from people like you're talking about,

1643
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,199
not people that see in conference or whatever.

1644
01:38:49,239 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 8: It's just the museum's taken in several reports of white

1645
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:58,199
ones all over from Alabama, Tennessee, North Georgia everywhere.

1646
01:38:59,079 --> 01:39:02,039
Speaker 9: And another thing reason I pointed out the distance, you know,

1647
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,479
twenty miles is nothing we could if I was healthy,

1648
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,960
I could walk twenty miles day. Well, these things taking

1649
01:39:10,039 --> 01:39:13,600
up more distance with each step. Who knows how far

1650
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,399
they could walk. But I've heard stories of them walking

1651
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,159
twenty miles for a water source, you know, out west,

1652
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:26,439
and then they found tracks. But that's another story. But

1653
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:31,680
every time I hear that the white thing, I always

1654
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,640
wondered if it's if it's an albino, you know, which

1655
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:36,079
had happened.

1656
01:39:36,119 --> 01:39:37,199
Speaker 3: And another thing.

1657
01:39:39,359 --> 01:39:42,399
Speaker 2: Is, you know, what is your first what is the

1658
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,479
first thing you think, Oh, it's a white one. What's

1659
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,560
your natural inclination that you're going to make is that

1660
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:53,279
it's old, correct, Yeah, you know it's white or it's great,

1661
01:39:53,319 --> 01:39:57,239
it has to be old. But that's not necessarily the case.

1662
01:39:57,319 --> 01:40:01,359
I mean, you could have a genetic abnormality in it,

1663
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:02,399
you know, like you said.

1664
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,279
Speaker 9: And I guess, you know, thinking about what we know

1665
01:40:05,319 --> 01:40:09,640
about other animals, if you talk to a witness, which

1666
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,560
I haven't really dug in to any of the stories,

1667
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,520
if if it has black skin, then it's not albino,

1668
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,800
all right, or if it has gray skin, if it

1669
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,359
has pink skin, you know, like my dog. Yeah, So,

1670
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,199
I mean, I guess that'd be a good question to

1671
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:27,680
ask next time, did you see did you see anything

1672
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,079
other than the hair? But you know, we we know

1673
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:35,319
people that have seen gray ones, you know, you you

1674
01:40:35,399 --> 01:40:39,079
know people have seen grays ones. So and we talked

1675
01:40:39,079 --> 01:40:42,640
to several people that have older ones on.

1676
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: Their property and and have you know, injuries and stuff

1677
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,399
like that, and they get thinner. We've been told but uh,

1678
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,439
that that white, that white thing.

1679
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 9: The first time I ever heard that, because I know

1680
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,560
what deer do when when you have a pieball deer

1681
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,920
or now by no deer, I've experienced this myself and

1682
01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:07,159
on our farm. And let's say a deer is half

1683
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:10,680
white spotted but half white white, two eggs and all that.

1684
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:16,239
Speaker 3: The other deer shunned them because they can't hide. If

1685
01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:20,199
there's I have seen them, that's right, they can't hide.

1686
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,000
I have seen that white deer on the side of

1687
01:41:23,039 --> 01:41:26,800
the hill in the woods during the winter, putting no

1688
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,239
other deer. Put my scope on that deer, just looking

1689
01:41:29,279 --> 01:41:31,239
at it, admiring it, and then all of a sudden

1690
01:41:31,279 --> 01:41:33,319
see an ear twitch and then I start looking there

1691
01:41:33,359 --> 01:41:36,680
laying behind logs, they're everywhere, so they started pushing this

1692
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,920
thing away. So that makes me wonder if that would

1693
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,039
be similar with these things just throwing you know.

1694
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,079
Speaker 2: Oh, I've thought about them.

1695
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:47,199
Speaker 8: It would make sense.

1696
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: When you get into this, you can start thinking about

1697
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,840
stuff like that all the time. Here's what as interesting.

1698
01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:01,560
As we walked on around this guy's yard and he

1699
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,239
was there by myself that day, and uh, we're just

1700
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:08,439
kind of standing there talking and I told you that

1701
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,199
there was a little church down the street there maybe

1702
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,840
I don't know, maybe half a mile or so, and

1703
01:42:15,159 --> 01:42:17,720
prior to get to his house, and he said, well,

1704
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,399
on Sunday he goes, my daughter, you know, came home

1705
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,159
from church. He goes, and she came in and she

1706
01:42:24,359 --> 01:42:27,359
just kind of acted strange, and he goes and I

1707
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,159
just looked. He said, as soon as I saw a

1708
01:42:30,199 --> 01:42:33,720
look on her face, he just said, I said, you

1709
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,840
saw one, didn't you. And she goes, I sure did,

1710
01:42:37,079 --> 01:42:40,760
and he goes, well, what was it? She goes, she

1711
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:42,920
just goes on the way back from church, and she

1712
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:46,960
was just one of those classic road crossings from from

1713
01:42:47,159 --> 01:42:51,439
her right to her left up into the property. You

1714
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,479
know that we were just on just one of those

1715
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,279
deals were a crossroad and up the banking of the pine,

1716
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:00,760
you know, thickets. It went. Yeah, but I just thought

1717
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:05,560
that was funny. Here's something interesting, though, is for people

1718
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:11,119
to think about. And the thing I would have liked

1719
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:14,319
to talk to her, because this is going to sound

1720
01:43:14,359 --> 01:43:16,720
strange to y'all. I kind of learned this when I

1721
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:24,239
would would investigate traffic crashes and fatalities and things along.

1722
01:43:24,399 --> 01:43:29,920
Things along that line is our eyes are programmed. We

1723
01:43:30,039 --> 01:43:33,920
read from left to right all the time, so over

1724
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,199
the years we really train our brain to do it

1725
01:43:37,319 --> 01:43:40,079
faster to save time because we really want to get

1726
01:43:40,079 --> 01:43:42,159
through it and get it over with So from left

1727
01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:45,520
to right, we really move very smoothly. Now y'all try

1728
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,640
this exercise later on. This is Madmo's homework for you.

1729
01:43:51,359 --> 01:43:54,079
If you go from right to left, you'll notice that

1730
01:43:54,119 --> 01:43:58,359
your eye has a lot more nystagnous, it's what they

1731
01:43:58,399 --> 01:44:00,600
call it. In your eye. It's the same thing that

1732
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:05,520
you get if you've been drinking. Uh. The task, not

1733
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,079
the test, but the task that they give you is

1734
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:14,920
called horizontal gays nastagnus is what it's called. But even

1735
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,439
if you have anything to drink or anything, if you

1736
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,039
would look from right to left, you'll notice your eye

1737
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:25,800
kind of does things in stages because it just doesn't

1738
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:31,960
process things, you know, as fast, so you don't miss

1739
01:44:32,199 --> 01:44:35,279
all the little fine details, you know, like you're reading,

1740
01:44:35,319 --> 01:44:37,920
you don't, you know, right to left, you wouldn't miss

1741
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,720
all the little these and asses and a's and things

1742
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,800
like you're reading, you know. Uh. And I've heard hunters

1743
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,520
say a lot of times, especially like special ops guys

1744
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:53,560
and you know guys that I work with, is we

1745
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,640
never if we were looking for a guy and we

1746
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,000
were posted up, we never looked left to right. Well,

1747
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,680
always scanned, areus. I mean we always scanned there is

1748
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,159
right to left instead of left to right when we're

1749
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:09,079
looking for somebody. So I just thought I would have

1750
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:12,000
loved to talk to that girl. But it took me

1751
01:45:13,239 --> 01:45:16,479
six months just to get, you know, get ahold.

1752
01:45:16,199 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: Of this guy.

1753
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 2: I had talked him into coming on the Sawdust Beast show,

1754
01:45:23,239 --> 01:45:26,920
believe it or not, and I told him, I said,

1755
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,920
just kind of like I do right here. I told him,

1756
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,199
I said, we can obscure your face, and I said,

1757
01:45:34,279 --> 01:45:37,119
and we can even change your voice, and we'll do

1758
01:45:37,239 --> 01:45:42,479
all that. And he just he backed up, maybe the

1759
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:44,159
day before or the day of.

1760
01:45:45,079 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard I've heard nonbelievers, you know how you

1761
01:45:49,359 --> 01:45:52,399
see comments and hear comments. We've all been victim of that.

1762
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:54,680
With one guy.

1763
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 9: His reasoning was a guest was too calm. But this

1764
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:04,239
guest that we interviewed had been dealing with them for

1765
01:46:04,359 --> 01:46:08,279
years out west the Pacific, northwest California, somewhere out there.

1766
01:46:09,319 --> 01:46:13,199
I had plenty of good evidence, good videos showing partial

1767
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,079
arms and elbows and jumping down, you know. So this

1768
01:46:17,239 --> 01:46:21,760
lady lived with them in the area and she was

1769
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,560
so calm, and the guy said, I don't just don't

1770
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,359
trust anybody that don't freak out about it.

1771
01:46:25,359 --> 01:46:29,119
Speaker 3: And but but you go to that guy that you're

1772
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:31,960
talking about. To me, that's more.

1773
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,079
Speaker 9: Especially one on one talking to him, watching his body

1774
01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:39,239
language and stuff. The fact that he was so casual.

1775
01:46:40,199 --> 01:46:44,359
Yeah about it, because as you experienced things, you get

1776
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:45,720
used to it, you deal with it.

1777
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:50,039
Speaker 3: You've already dealt with the first one. To me, that's that.

1778
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,119
Speaker 9: I like that because that tells me they've had to

1779
01:46:54,199 --> 01:46:56,079
learn how to deal with them, you know, deal with

1780
01:46:56,119 --> 01:46:58,760
the fact that rail and that they lived there.

1781
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 2: And somebody asked if that eye tracking was based on

1782
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,920
dominant hand. It sort of is, like, it's weird if

1783
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:12,159
you're right handed your dominant leg is your left leg. Uh,

1784
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,520
you know, it's just really strange. I've seen guys that

1785
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:20,920
can shoot offhand non dominant eye, you know, as easy

1786
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,399
as I can shoot anything else. But yeah, that's pretty

1787
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,840
much the way it is. Y'all should try that sometime though,

1788
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:26,760
Like I said.

1789
01:47:27,039 --> 01:47:29,319
Speaker 3: I just did it. I felt the difference.

1790
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 2: To check that for sure and listen and you can

1791
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,000
train yourself. Look, somebody just threw up the thing on

1792
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:40,880
there that said that they're lefty. See it's different a

1793
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,279
little bit for a left handed person. They still read

1794
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:48,119
left to right. But they're left handed person, so they're

1795
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:52,319
tracking is a little bit different. But I'm telling you

1796
01:47:52,359 --> 01:47:55,279
something that may be weird. But you know, I have

1797
01:47:55,319 --> 01:48:01,520
a dash cam in my truck because of land between

1798
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,439
the lakes. I mean, that's the reason I have it

1799
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:07,239
in there, because I think if I can ever see one,

1800
01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:13,119
I can press the button and my dashboard cam will

1801
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:16,880
go back in time ten seconds and then it'll start

1802
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,479
recording from ten seconds ago, and then it'll record two minutes,

1803
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,880
and then it'll record two minutes after I press the button.

1804
01:48:25,399 --> 01:48:29,760
Now here's what Kel says to me. She goes, you know,

1805
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,520
good and well, after a bigfoot crosses the road, she goes,

1806
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,439
You're gonna be so freaked out you're not going to

1807
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:38,479
be able to press the red button. And that's the truth.

1808
01:48:39,039 --> 01:48:41,680
So that's why you put like a butt of something

1809
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:47,800
other gigabyte card in there that'll record five hundred of

1810
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,279
those videos before it'll overlay itself, you know.

1811
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, the problem I found. I'll give you all

1812
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,800
some advice in the chat.

1813
01:48:58,039 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 9: So I bought a Ohted, a poor man's GoPro, and

1814
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:06,479
it was cheaper. It filmed fine. But the thing is

1815
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,960
you buy them from other countries and they ship them

1816
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,600
in here for them not to be if if they

1817
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,600
record for an hour or two hours, they're considered a

1818
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:21,279
video recorder and there's a higher tax. Yes, So what

1819
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,319
happened when I got this one? It recorded in like

1820
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:29,680
nine minutes to twelve minute intervals, so I was constantly

1821
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:31,359
have to turn the thing back on. I didn't know

1822
01:49:31,399 --> 01:49:33,960
it wasn't recording. So go ahead and spend a little

1823
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,520
bit of extra money to get up a camera recording

1824
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:42,079
camera and just beware. I bought one and it's it's

1825
01:49:42,199 --> 01:49:48,560
it's a pain. But anyway, you know, when I first

1826
01:49:49,199 --> 01:49:55,800
started doing this, I was coming into this about the

1827
01:49:55,880 --> 01:50:00,640
time the shift started, you started when there was more

1828
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:05,000
of people will be careful about what they You know,

1829
01:50:05,319 --> 01:50:07,560
if you saw bigfoot, that's fine, you found track, that's fine.

1830
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,319
But if you saw an ORB you didn't talk about it.

1831
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 3: Uh, if you heard.

1832
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:17,039
Speaker 2: We were flesh and blood people and uh. In fact,

1833
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:21,159
in order to join to first join the Beast group,

1834
01:50:21,319 --> 01:50:23,359
you know, you have to answer questions and stuff like

1835
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,439
I'll be polite, you know on these type of things.

1836
01:50:26,039 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1837
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 2: And then there was one in there that said, I

1838
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,680
believe that this is a flesh and blood. So of

1839
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,159
course I was, you know in that camp. You know, Uh,

1840
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:39,760
it really took. It didn't take things I saw or

1841
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,560
heard to change my mind. I think it was really

1842
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:48,319
speaking to some people, uh that were credible, good people

1843
01:50:49,399 --> 01:50:53,399
with nothing to gain or lose by telling a story

1844
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,079
that And these are people that just came out of

1845
01:50:56,119 --> 01:51:00,720
the woodwork too. Those are my favorites. I love somebody, Yeah,

1846
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,279
I love somebody going to get groceries and they have

1847
01:51:03,399 --> 01:51:08,359
an eight foot uh gorilla cross the road in front

1848
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,680
of them, you know, I mean, those are the best.

1849
01:51:11,239 --> 01:51:15,359
Me and Roger were joking about this, and y'all can

1850
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:21,079
remember Bama saying this, The Bigfoot world is the only

1851
01:51:21,239 --> 01:51:26,039
place where you can be driving down the road, look

1852
01:51:26,079 --> 01:51:29,479
over in the field, see a bigfoot. Tell it on

1853
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,960
a show next thing. You know, you're famous your conferences

1854
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,359
and everything, and you didn't do nothing. You're just driving down. Look,

1855
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,760
you're just driving down the road and you looked over

1856
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:45,239
and saw one. Suddenly you have books out, and suddenly

1857
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,840
suddenly you got books out, and you know, you got

1858
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:53,520
all kinds of stuff going on. I'm just saying I

1859
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,960
always make that, always make that joke to people. They'll

1860
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:00,399
go I'll go, So you saw Bigfoot? When are you

1861
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,960
going to be at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference?

1862
01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: And I I was told that.

1863
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:15,119
Speaker 9: Like when I finally told my stories, uh and got

1864
01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:18,920
it out there, a guy said, Uh, don't be surprised

1865
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,720
if you start getting people to call you be on shows.

1866
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,720
I said, why why would they do that? He said, dude,

1867
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,319
you saw one for thirty seconds.

1868
01:52:26,039 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? He said, that's a long time.

1869
01:52:28,119 --> 01:52:32,279
Speaker 9: And you know, my fourteen year old brain, I was

1870
01:52:32,319 --> 01:52:37,239
all messed up. And my best description of what you

1871
01:52:37,279 --> 01:52:40,359
know that, well, how'd you feel? Well, it just didn't

1872
01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:41,399
look right, you know.

1873
01:52:41,279 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 7: What I mean?

1874
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: So you know something didn't y'all just have Larry and debbieyond.

1875
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:52,159
Speaker 3: It's been a while ago. It's back when they got married.

1876
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,279
Speaker 2: No, Debbie and Larry were just on or with her

1877
01:52:56,359 --> 01:52:57,560
on Woodwalkers.

1878
01:52:57,920 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 3: They might have been.

1879
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were listening while I was at the farm

1880
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,880
bush hoging one time. And here's what's funny, and me

1881
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,119
and Larry talked about this. The last two campounds. They

1882
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:11,920
came to my bank Head campout. Uh, you know, we

1883
01:53:12,079 --> 01:53:15,760
just we used to do a lot of shows, I mean,

1884
01:53:18,199 --> 01:53:22,760
and the Beast Channel had some really pretty good, you

1885
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,159
know guests on there.

1886
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go back, y'all go back and look that

1887
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:26,960
up and watch.

1888
01:53:27,079 --> 01:53:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good shows I did. So when

1889
01:53:30,399 --> 01:53:32,399
I go back and look, I can't believe how many

1890
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:38,600
shows I hosted, you know, with people. Uh. But it's

1891
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,319
funny because we kind of joked while we were sitting around,

1892
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:46,479
Larry says, Oh, I do not care if I'm ever

1893
01:53:47,079 --> 01:53:51,159
on a show again, because I've been on so many shows.

1894
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:53,039
And when I got to looking at it, I remember

1895
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:59,239
just how many shows I've been on. I mean a bunch,

1896
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,640
and what have I done. This is why I always

1897
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:06,840
tell people I'm not any nothing. I don't think i'm anybody.

1898
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:12,960
I've never actually seen one. I've heard some incredible things

1899
01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:17,880
have changed my life and my my brain and my

1900
01:54:18,079 --> 01:54:23,039
views on religion, and those are the things I really

1901
01:54:23,079 --> 01:54:27,960
do pray. Y'all think this is funny. But when I pray,

1902
01:54:28,079 --> 01:54:31,680
sometimes I tell God, please just let me see one,

1903
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,439
you know, I go, just let me, just let me

1904
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:39,159
see one, because I know it'll I know it'll do

1905
01:54:39,319 --> 01:54:42,920
something more to me. But I've already taken those steps

1906
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,119
to get up to that, if that makes any sense

1907
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:52,079
to you. But yeah, and all to say of all

1908
01:54:52,159 --> 01:54:58,199
those shows I've been on and I believe it or not.

1909
01:54:58,319 --> 01:55:00,720
Roger actually had somebody ask me can talk at a

1910
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,319
conference one time, and I said, I don't have a

1911
01:55:04,359 --> 01:55:08,479
power point. I don't I don't have. I mean, I

1912
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:14,560
go bama Is. I am a storyteller, and I don't

1913
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,119
embellish stuff, and I don't make up anything. I just

1914
01:55:18,199 --> 01:55:20,560
trying to describe it to where if you're sitting there,

1915
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,239
you'll know you're right there with me, and I go,

1916
01:55:23,359 --> 01:55:25,560
I don't think standing in front of a giant room

1917
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,199
of people, I can be you know, even though I've

1918
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:30,319
done a lot of public speaking, I'm like, I don't

1919
01:55:30,319 --> 01:55:33,000
think I can entertain a room. I don't think I can,

1920
01:55:33,039 --> 01:55:37,000
you know, follow up Ron moorehead or David Politis or

1921
01:55:37,119 --> 01:55:38,680
you know somebody like that you.

1922
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:43,279
Speaker 3: Know well, and but you think about it. Has David

1923
01:55:43,279 --> 01:55:44,479
Politis ever seen one?

1924
01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Hawk six eight or two asked

1925
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:53,279
if I've ever seen one? Never seen one. When people

1926
01:55:53,439 --> 01:55:57,680
ask me that, uh, And here's what's funny. People that

1927
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,319
are big in the big foot world never as Smith

1928
01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:03,279
if I've seen one, because they know if I've seen

1929
01:56:03,359 --> 01:56:06,439
one or not so it's usually somebody that just has

1930
01:56:06,479 --> 01:56:09,279
found I'm in the Bigfoot, and anytime they asked me,

1931
01:56:09,319 --> 01:56:12,960
I always say no, but I've been five inches from one.

1932
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah it almost snapped on your head.

1933
01:56:16,119 --> 01:56:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go. I've been you know, five inches from one,

1934
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,199
and normally I sleep with my head the other direction.

1935
01:56:21,319 --> 01:56:23,039
I don't even know why I had a dis direction

1936
01:56:23,199 --> 01:56:25,359
that night, it's just the way things happened out.

1937
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 9: Well tonight before bed, I'm gonna pray Bams he's one

1938
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,920
because I won't hear that description. Because I'm gonna tell

1939
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,560
you what's going to happen to you, even though you're

1940
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,640
very observant, even though you're It's just like when you

1941
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:39,720
heard that first hal. You remember your reaction. You said

1942
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:41,680
a few things, you said, you shouldn't have You had

1943
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,399
a y you know what I mean. You wouldn't have

1944
01:56:43,399 --> 01:56:46,640
done that at work and y'all were trying to be

1945
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:51,199
quiet and you were prepared, right, something happened that you

1946
01:56:51,239 --> 01:56:53,760
didn't expect. So the same thing's going to happen. But

1947
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,920
you'll be you'll be okay because of what you're made up.

1948
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:00,199
But it will mess with you. I mean it will.

1949
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,520
There'll be so many different kinds of emotions and thoughts

1950
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,680
that go through your head. I would love to hear

1951
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,600
that story, because you.

1952
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,199
Speaker 2: Know, there's today, I'm out on the farm and the

1953
01:57:16,279 --> 01:57:18,760
guy I'm working with he left on the four wheeler,

1954
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,960
and of course all the dogs. We've got a bunch

1955
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,760
of farm dogs. They're like a roven pack of wild

1956
01:57:26,079 --> 01:57:29,840
kids out there on the farm. I mean, they're all

1957
01:57:30,079 --> 01:57:33,119
you know, healers. They're all into something if they're not fighting.

1958
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,600
But they all left with him, and I'm just kind

1959
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:41,039
of bent over between these rows of tomatoes picking tomatoes.

1960
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:45,279
And you know, I've had that deal several times where

1961
01:57:45,319 --> 01:57:49,560
I just thought, okay, stand up right now, just look around,

1962
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,720
you know. And i'd stand up, look around, you know,

1963
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,239
and and I thought, if I see one, well, I

1964
01:57:56,279 --> 01:57:58,119
can't tell people that I just had one of those

1965
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:01,560
weird feelings. I go, how do I explain why I

1966
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,000
wanted to stand up and look around? And if I

1967
01:58:04,079 --> 01:58:07,239
tell them, if I tell them the reason, then they'll go, oh,

1968
01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:10,279
you're making that up. If you didn't have the feeling

1969
01:58:10,359 --> 01:58:13,119
or something. Well, this morning when they left, I bent

1970
01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:18,039
over in the name rose of tomatoes. And and a

1971
01:58:18,039 --> 01:58:20,680
lot of times I would listen to headphones. I listened

1972
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:24,239
to y'all or wood walkers or something, but I didn't

1973
01:58:24,279 --> 01:58:26,359
have it in because it was so nice and the

1974
01:58:26,439 --> 01:58:30,680
birds this morning, and I just kind of stood up

1975
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,319
and looked across one of the fields and I kind

1976
01:58:33,319 --> 01:58:36,319
of picked out a tree out there that I bush

1977
01:58:36,359 --> 01:58:40,279
hog around, and I just thought, what in the world

1978
01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:43,479
would I do if I saw one standing right there

1979
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:47,159
about that eight foot tall limb on the bottom of

1980
01:58:47,159 --> 01:58:49,239
that tree. And I just kind of went through my

1981
01:58:49,319 --> 01:58:54,840
head all the different things that I would think, or

1982
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,560
that far away, I was thinking, you know, maybe I

1983
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,680
just stand here and look at it whatever, you know.

1984
01:59:01,279 --> 01:59:05,119
And then for a second I thought maybe I would

1985
01:59:05,159 --> 01:59:07,560
try that. Somebody told me this one time. It may

1986
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,880
have been uh, it wasn't Piro. I can't think of

1987
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,000
who it was, but I thought, maybe I'll try to

1988
01:59:13,119 --> 01:59:17,319
speak to them in like a Cherokee tongue or something,

1989
01:59:17,359 --> 01:59:20,279
you know, and raise my hand and said ooh ah

1990
01:59:20,399 --> 01:59:23,960
or something like that, you know. And then as soon

1991
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,039
as that went through my brain, I snapped right back to, dude,

1992
01:59:27,159 --> 01:59:30,880
you would I don't know what I would do. And

1993
01:59:31,279 --> 01:59:35,640
all to say, I've been in the was in a

1994
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:40,279
position for years to where they trained and trained and

1995
01:59:40,319 --> 01:59:45,359
trained you, but you had no idea what the training

1996
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,119
was going to do or if it was going to

1997
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:50,640
take until you were right smack in the middle of it.

1998
01:59:51,079 --> 01:59:55,399
And then sometimes it's great and sometimes it's not so good.

1999
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:57,880
When it deals with gunfire, it never is. But I'm

2000
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,479
talking about lots of other things.

2001
02:00:00,119 --> 02:00:03,479
Speaker 3: Uh so, and look, gunfire is not like people think.

2002
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:04,039
It is like that.

2003
02:00:04,039 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 9: A lot of times you're the lead thumping around you first,

2004
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:11,439
you're like that, you know, yeah, But the thing is, uh,

2005
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,840
the the training you've had and other stuff is probably

2006
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:18,279
gonna help you. And you've you've thought about all these scenarios,

2007
02:00:18,319 --> 02:00:20,199
so you probably be okay.

2008
02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:23,199
Speaker 3: But and I hope you do, man, I mean because.

2009
02:00:23,039 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: It gives you a faster reaction time. Let's put that way.

2010
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,760
If you went over like me unfortunately. Uh, you know,

2011
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:34,560
I've been to church shootings before, in school shootings and stuff.

2012
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:38,560
And when I sit in church and I've I worked

2013
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,159
security at one church where I was at and I

2014
02:00:41,319 --> 02:00:45,039
just they just, uh, those people have never been to

2015
02:00:45,119 --> 02:00:47,560
the things I've been to and seen it, so it's

2016
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,159
hard for them to be serious about their security. And

2017
02:00:51,199 --> 02:00:55,760
I have a friend that's retired that specializes in business

2018
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:00,279
school and church security, and he makes a fortune because

2019
02:01:00,319 --> 02:01:03,159
he's good at it and he's seen the same things

2020
02:01:03,239 --> 02:01:06,479
I've seen. Uh So, when I'm sitting in church here

2021
02:01:07,399 --> 02:01:11,159
and kill knows this about me, uh I just tell

2022
02:01:11,239 --> 02:01:13,600
kell I go. You know where the eggs is, and

2023
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:16,760
you know where to go, and I go because you

2024
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:21,119
can't stay with me. I go because I go. I

2025
02:01:21,279 --> 02:01:24,520
know that there may be I know there's one guy

2026
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:27,760
armed in there because he actually wears his uniform to

2027
02:01:28,159 --> 02:01:32,000
church before he goes to work. But he don't wear

2028
02:01:32,039 --> 02:01:37,079
ballistic vest I mean, I see things, and uh so

2029
02:01:37,159 --> 02:01:39,520
I'm always telling her. I know there's three or four

2030
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,479
guys in here that are armed all the time. I'm

2031
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:45,039
just not sure who they are. And I know not

2032
02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:47,239
a single one of them has ever been either in

2033
02:01:47,319 --> 02:01:52,479
a gunfight or pinned down by gunfire. There's a huge difference.

2034
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I know we went through that Bama.

2035
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,479
Speaker 9: There's a guy over you know where Lawrenceburg is right

2036
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,159
in that area and Tennessee it's straight north of you.

2037
02:02:02,319 --> 02:02:06,439
But in Tennessee where the Amish and all that. After all, Yeah,

2038
02:02:07,079 --> 02:02:09,760
he came from over there. I'll make this short but

2039
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,760
we had a meeting. He was a security guy, and

2040
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:16,960
we had an incident that was nothing, but it looked

2041
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,000
like it was, and.

2042
02:02:19,039 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 3: Two of us did what we were supposed to do.

2043
02:02:23,279 --> 02:02:27,079
Speaker 9: We headed it off, the one guy confronting the guy

2044
02:02:27,079 --> 02:02:29,199
that just walked in out of nowhere with no shirt on.

2045
02:02:29,479 --> 02:02:32,760
And we were having this meeting after church, and then

2046
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:36,760
he went to him and I got in a doorway,

2047
02:02:38,119 --> 02:02:39,960
you know what I'm saying, backing him up a little bit,

2048
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,279
but not making it obvious and all that, and he

2049
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:46,439
took come to us later. He said, you know a

2050
02:02:46,479 --> 02:02:48,359
lot of times, just like you said, I come to

2051
02:02:48,399 --> 02:02:51,279
these churches and I do this and I leave thinking

2052
02:02:52,239 --> 02:02:54,600
I don't know if I did any good, he said,

2053
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:58,840
But you two did the right thing, you know. But

2054
02:02:59,039 --> 02:03:03,119
like I said, it's totally different when it's real. You know,

2055
02:03:03,399 --> 02:03:06,960
I worked at the jail, I've been in the fights,

2056
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,199
I've been in the talk my way out of the fights.

2057
02:03:09,279 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 3: I've you know, you know what I'm saying.

2058
02:03:11,039 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 9: So anyway, but the training, though, if you don't have

2059
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,399
any training, A lot of times when you I don't

2060
02:03:18,399 --> 02:03:21,760
care if you're playing football, soccer, you're doing anything in

2061
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:23,680
your life. I've seen this a million times. If you

2062
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:26,039
don't have any training, a lot of times what you do.

2063
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 2: Is nothing, you know, and not to not to sound

2064
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:33,720
a certain way. But when the first time that I

2065
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:37,600
met and I always call it this an organized group,

2066
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,479
and an organized group was Mark and Shelley and Larry

2067
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:46,840
and and Debbie, and Spencer was as not as new

2068
02:03:47,079 --> 02:03:49,199
as I was. I mean, Spencer had already been to

2069
02:03:49,319 --> 02:03:51,640
it a little bit, but he had never met any

2070
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:56,560
of them, you know, And so it's like, you know,

2071
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,239
I don't mean to sound a certain way, but I

2072
02:03:59,319 --> 02:04:03,119
really thought already had everything in the rolodex in my

2073
02:04:03,239 --> 02:04:06,439
brain that could go in there. I mean I'd already

2074
02:04:06,479 --> 02:04:11,479
heard things and seeing things, and I still had this curiosity.

2075
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:18,840
But that trip, that trip man, really changed me. Like

2076
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,800
I said, it was really a kind of a fake thing,

2077
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,399
the way things came out and the vocals we got.

2078
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:29,000
But I drove away going, man, that's that is for real.

2079
02:04:29,479 --> 02:04:31,079
All to say that. I want to tell you this

2080
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:35,199
because we'd taken a little note about it. Those first

2081
02:04:35,279 --> 02:04:39,680
good vocals that me and Spencer ever heard, we were

2082
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:42,600
standing there and after they were over, of course, we're

2083
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:47,560
still just standing on that road there, listening well, we

2084
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,880
went and got in our vehicles, and the way we

2085
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,920
went I think we had two vehicles, and the way

2086
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:57,640
we went went to another place, another place. Eventually got back. Well,

2087
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:00,800
I asked them, I asked later on, and Spencer can

2088
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,920
a test to this, and Mark and Larry and all

2089
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:06,880
them can. I said, how long were we at that spot?

2090
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,399
And they said, oh, after those houses, we probably there

2091
02:05:10,439 --> 02:05:13,920
another good thirty minutes. And I said, I thought we

2092
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:17,199
were only there like five minutes. And I said, what

2093
02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:20,479
do you mean, I said, I don't really remember anything

2094
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:25,199
after the house. I go, I do remember that happening.

2095
02:05:25,239 --> 02:05:28,880
I go, but I remember, I go, I remember maybe

2096
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:31,439
standing on the road. But didn't we leave after that?

2097
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,399
They said, no, man, we stayed out there a long time. Now,

2098
02:05:34,399 --> 02:05:38,079
I'm not saying it was anything. I attributed it to

2099
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:42,880
fatigue because we've been going for two or three days

2100
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,159
and not really sleeping. I mean, we were just just

2101
02:05:46,279 --> 02:05:48,640
I don't know if they were testing us or you

2102
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:52,039
know what, you know, what was going on.

2103
02:05:52,159 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 3: But uh, well, I look, but I.

2104
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:59,119
Speaker 2: Had that lost time, you know, it felt like lost time,

2105
02:05:59,399 --> 02:06:03,600
and I really confined it in Mark with himself first,

2106
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,399
and that was it, you know, I never really told

2107
02:06:05,439 --> 02:06:06,239
anybody else.

2108
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:07,479
Speaker 3: Well, the thing.

2109
02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:11,439
Speaker 9: The thing is when you have something happen, and I've

2110
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:14,880
been fortunate to have at least one other person with me,

2111
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,159
so I can look at them and say, what did

2112
02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:19,159
you just hear? What did you see? You know what

2113
02:06:19,239 --> 02:06:23,119
I mean to kind of confirm. But so when the

2114
02:06:23,159 --> 02:06:27,600
first time you heard those hows, you knew they're not

2115
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:32,199
in your memory bank of sounds. So your mind's analyzing,

2116
02:06:32,439 --> 02:06:33,960
you know what, you know what I mean, and you're

2117
02:06:34,119 --> 02:06:37,600
and you're like, it's not a euphoric feeling, but it

2118
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:40,079
almost is a little bit, And.

2119
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 3: I think it.

2120
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 2: Look, you've ever been going down the road and somebody

2121
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,119
somebody pull out in front of you, Well, they don't

2122
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:51,760
actually pull out in front of you, but they almost do.

2123
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,199
They kind of pull forward just enough to give you

2124
02:06:54,319 --> 02:06:58,760
that feeling of yep. It's almost like a you know,

2125
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:06,880
like a well, uh, it took it. It happened and

2126
02:07:07,119 --> 02:07:11,560
process in my brain so fast that maybe for the

2127
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:18,520
first quarter second I thought somebody's playing a joke on me,

2128
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,159
because it was because that's the only thing my brain

2129
02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:24,880
came up with, because nothing was logical right then. The

2130
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,479
sound that I was hearing. It didn't fit, like I said,

2131
02:07:27,479 --> 02:07:31,960
it didn't fit into the rolodex anywhere. So just for

2132
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:36,279
a fraction of a second was I'm being somebody's playing

2133
02:07:36,279 --> 02:07:39,279
a joke on me. Then once it got to going

2134
02:07:39,399 --> 02:07:45,399
on and the harmony started with another one too, and

2135
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:50,600
I could kind of judge the distance. The thing that

2136
02:07:52,039 --> 02:07:55,239
really shocked my brain and my system so much was

2137
02:07:55,680 --> 02:08:00,680
when my logic finally convinced me that that is not

2138
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:04,960
a man up there, because I really I don't know

2139
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:07,119
if I said that out loud or was saying it

2140
02:08:07,119 --> 02:08:09,600
over and over to myself, but I remember going, that

2141
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,239
is not a man. That is not a man up there.

2142
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,399
I mean, if you heard it, you would know that

2143
02:08:17,319 --> 02:08:18,760
it wasn't a man.

2144
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:23,199
Speaker 3: But and that's the hardest thing to explain to people.

2145
02:08:24,479 --> 02:08:26,439
Not only is it hard to explain, but you can

2146
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,880
show them those amazing recordings. There's several people we know

2147
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:33,560
got them, and it doesn't do it justice. It doesn't

2148
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:34,199
have the vault.

2149
02:08:34,279 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 9: You know, you can't hear the distance, and when you're

2150
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,520
standing there, you know, it's like gunfire.

2151
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 3: You're trained to listen to gunfire. You can kind of

2152
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,880
pinpoint after two or three shots, you know, like it's

2153
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:45,239
coming from that area right there.

2154
02:08:46,119 --> 02:08:49,199
Speaker 9: And people, this is all the kind of stuff you

2155
02:08:49,239 --> 02:08:51,520
go through when you're hunting and all that. When you

2156
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:54,199
hear a sound and you're in a hollow, you can

2157
02:08:54,239 --> 02:08:55,960
track it back, that goes back.

2158
02:08:57,199 --> 02:09:01,399
Speaker 2: It's funny said that, you know, I always so many

2159
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,720
people at work always said all the time, they said, man,

2160
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,239
you must be like and I don't mean to be

2161
02:09:07,239 --> 02:09:09,279
an insul at all, but they said, you must be

2162
02:09:09,279 --> 02:09:12,920
at like the high end of the spectrum or or

2163
02:09:13,079 --> 02:09:16,880
have some something like that. And the only reason they

2164
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:20,560
were saying this is because ever since I was a kid,

2165
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:25,640
I've had this weird obsession with kicking out the patterns

2166
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:30,600
and things, the patterns and sounds and things like that.

2167
02:09:31,399 --> 02:09:33,560
I know that's something, but I'll explain what that means.

2168
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 3: I understand it.

2169
02:09:35,039 --> 02:09:39,079
Speaker 2: So if we were and this happened frequently, if we

2170
02:09:39,079 --> 02:09:41,520
were out in the projects at night, we're out of

2171
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:44,000
the cars, just kind of standing around, you know, you'd

2172
02:09:44,039 --> 02:09:50,720
hear a dang gunfight pop off somewhere. And ninety eight

2173
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,159
percent of the people I interview that have been through

2174
02:09:53,239 --> 02:09:55,960
bad stuff, they always start out saying, oh, I thought

2175
02:09:55,960 --> 02:10:01,520
it was firecrackers. Kill is trained of where Her first

2176
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:05,680
rule is there's no such thing as firecrackers, you know, Okay,

2177
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,840
I mean that's just the way she thinks now too.

2178
02:10:08,119 --> 02:10:10,760
She's seen me get up and leave church during the

2179
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:16,159
Christmas program when firecrackers went off outside, because that's just me.

2180
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,560
But we would be standing there and here, you know,

2181
02:10:21,199 --> 02:10:25,479
dang gunfight pop off over there, or just one person.

2182
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:28,239
A lot of times they just do some distraction to

2183
02:10:28,239 --> 02:10:33,079
get everybody go o beyonder, you know, somewhere and just

2184
02:10:33,439 --> 02:10:38,439
no no rhyme, nor reasons to just tut to, you know,

2185
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:41,840
just through there. And as soon as I heard it,

2186
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,279
i'd listen to and people would look at me and

2187
02:10:44,319 --> 02:10:46,319
they would go how And I could pick out the

2188
02:10:46,359 --> 02:10:52,239
pattern in my brain. It was like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

2189
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:55,880
And then I would get the other overlapping, and I

2190
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,840
would go, oh, man, I'll go that one that was

2191
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,760
nine shots was eight and the other one sounds like

2192
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:04,800
it's maybe a nine or something. And they would just

2193
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:08,600
start laughing because I would pick that out. There's times

2194
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:12,359
when we've been there and we literally have heard the

2195
02:11:12,439 --> 02:11:19,079
rams pop off like that and two seconds later them

2196
02:11:20,079 --> 02:11:23,199
hit the dumpster beside us. I mean it got to

2197
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,800
you know, I worked in there where you're standing talking

2198
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,479
to a citizen and gunfire went off. You didn't stop talking.

2199
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,279
You just kind of hunkered your dead head down a

2200
02:11:32,319 --> 02:11:34,239
little bit. That was true life.

2201
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:39,039
Speaker 9: Well, so we need to talk more, probably because yeah,

2202
02:11:39,399 --> 02:11:40,720
I'm kind of the same way.

2203
02:11:43,079 --> 02:11:44,399
Speaker 3: From you know experience.

2204
02:11:44,439 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 9: We shot a lot growing up, and the neighbors did

2205
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:49,760
and all that, and what Daddy could do it He

2206
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:51,640
could tell you what they were shooting and all.

2207
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 3: But I do that too.

2208
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:55,399
Speaker 9: I can replay it in my head and said, that

2209
02:11:55,479 --> 02:11:57,920
was thirteen shots, and how do you do that? You know,

2210
02:11:58,039 --> 02:11:59,520
like that was a nine middle man and that might

2211
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,439
have been too. You two do three, five, five, six,

2212
02:12:01,479 --> 02:12:03,960
you know, popped off? Yeah, but not in a stressful

2213
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:07,880
situation like you were right. But I don't know what

2214
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:09,039
it is, Bamau.

2215
02:12:09,279 --> 02:12:12,159
Speaker 2: But see if you're in if you're in a place

2216
02:12:13,319 --> 02:12:15,720
that's a stressful. This is what I and I mean

2217
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:18,279
I came man, you would believe where I came from.

2218
02:12:18,319 --> 02:12:23,199
I've never even really seen a police car, Okay. And

2219
02:12:23,239 --> 02:12:25,479
then you end up in the in the during the

2220
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:29,000
crack epidemic in this large city, in one of the

2221
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:33,359
worst project complexes. When you're in a place that's stressful

2222
02:12:33,479 --> 02:12:36,600
all the time, it gets to where it's not stressful

2223
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:40,439
for it just because. So that's that's why I tell people.

2224
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:43,479
I go, you know, there's kids here, there's people here,

2225
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:47,279
there's older people here, and stuff that. Especially the kids,

2226
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:52,319
they don't know it's bad. They don't know at three

2227
02:12:52,399 --> 02:12:54,840
years old that they're not supposed to be outside at

2228
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:58,560
two thirty in the morning because their parents are outside.

2229
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,600
I go, this is just so, it's kind of something

2230
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,600
you got used to. Luckily, I was in my ear

2231
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:07,920
long enough that I was recognized. Of course, I had

2232
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:12,119
all my tattoos there at the end, I was recognized.

2233
02:13:12,359 --> 02:13:16,079
I've been there enough years to work. I had seen

2234
02:13:16,159 --> 02:13:19,880
people grow up and then whatever happened to them happened

2235
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:23,279
to so people kind of they knew me, and they

2236
02:13:23,359 --> 02:13:27,880
knew what I did not want to have to show

2237
02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:30,000
up on Let's put it that way.

2238
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:33,079
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say one thing.

2239
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:38,319
Speaker 9: Heather tries to scare me all the time, and she

2240
02:13:38,359 --> 02:13:41,920
will make loud noises whatever, and I don't react to him.

2241
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:46,439
Speaker 3: And she said, why don't you react to him? I said, well, well,

2242
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:48,920
here's what I think. But men, you're different.

2243
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 9: But yah, but you're talking about brain processing, I said, Heather,

2244
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:58,119
I've already processed what the sound was. That's true to

2245
02:13:58,479 --> 02:14:00,680
you know what I'm saying, so already know it's a

2246
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:01,760
handslap on the table.

2247
02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 3: I already know. Now they ain't saying something can't scare me.

2248
02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:05,640
I'm not saying that.

2249
02:14:06,079 --> 02:14:09,119
Speaker 9: But anyway, so let's I want to wrap this up.

2250
02:14:09,560 --> 02:14:12,000
And we got plenty of talk about but are you

2251
02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:15,239
a Poe because this Bama story time? We had one

2252
02:14:15,319 --> 02:14:19,319
last time it was great about Barbara Mandrels house and

2253
02:14:19,359 --> 02:14:20,199
all that was a borrow.

2254
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:24,279
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I did, and for the

2255
02:14:24,359 --> 02:14:28,840
listeners too, if there's still anybody here, yeah there is. Well,

2256
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:31,399
first of all, I appreciate everybody in chat. I saw

2257
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:35,039
lots of familiar you know, names and stuff, and I

2258
02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:38,119
just these y'all are my family. I love all of you.

2259
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:40,479
Speaker 6: I really.

2260
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:43,640
Speaker 2: After I sat and talked to you that night, I

2261
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:49,199
started keeping notes of all these stories, and I took

2262
02:14:49,199 --> 02:14:51,000
a lot of stories that were good ones that I

2263
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:56,239
can actually tell anybody, But the majority of them you can't.

2264
02:14:56,520 --> 02:15:00,640
I mean, they're truly bad things. But I have pages

2265
02:15:01,399 --> 02:15:03,760
and if you took them out of context and simply

2266
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:09,359
read the line. It's I don't I can't even really

2267
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:12,399
say some of them, but I would just write in

2268
02:15:12,439 --> 02:15:14,920
a way to where I can remember what the story was.

2269
02:15:15,079 --> 02:15:17,319
And it's funny to go back and read the line

2270
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:21,640
and just start laughing. But yeah, that would be that

2271
02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:28,159
would be great. We have we have that work. Is

2272
02:15:28,479 --> 02:15:31,039
This will sound cliche because I've heard it say a lot.

2273
02:15:31,079 --> 02:15:35,119
They go, oh, it's a you know, ninety eight percent boredom,

2274
02:15:35,239 --> 02:15:39,079
two percent sheer terror. It's actually a lot more once

2275
02:15:39,119 --> 02:15:42,039
you're calloused. I hate to say that. Once you're calloused

2276
02:15:42,199 --> 02:15:45,079
and have been there a while, there's more comical stuff.

2277
02:15:45,119 --> 02:15:49,319
You see, the comical sight to even horrible you know, situation.

2278
02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 9: And I've seen this, you know, from experience. When terrible

2279
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:58,319
things happen, the seasoned guys handle things with humor, not

2280
02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:00,720
really meaning it, but to deal with it. And the

2281
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:02,880
younger guys didn't know how to handle it. And we'll

2282
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:05,560
get mad at the older guys and you know, because

2283
02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:08,560
they're saying certain things. But I realized early on they

2284
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:12,560
were just you know, yeah, I'm sure when they got

2285
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:14,199
home it was a different story.

2286
02:16:14,680 --> 02:16:16,840
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, you've been there, a while

2287
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:20,880
when you stand there, get tune a sub over a dcomp.

2288
02:16:23,279 --> 02:16:27,319
Speaker 9: So, are you opposed because we have a lot of people,

2289
02:16:27,359 --> 02:16:29,039
We have a lot of people we all know, but

2290
02:16:29,079 --> 02:16:31,920
we have a lot of people here that has never

2291
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:32,600
seen you before.

2292
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:35,719
Speaker 3: Are you opposed to telling the Ronney millsap story? The

2293
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,840
what the Ronney millsap story?

2294
02:16:38,079 --> 02:16:39,200
Speaker 2: You mean, tell it right now?

2295
02:16:39,479 --> 02:16:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell it right now.

2296
02:16:40,559 --> 02:16:43,079
Speaker 2: We'll tell that and then we'll sign off.

2297
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:47,879
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, could y'all so for y'all tell.

2298
02:16:47,719 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 2: You the funniest thing about the story is it is

2299
02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:54,079
when I told it. This is just this is a

2300
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:57,639
common story. And thanks to Hillary for putting my, uh

2301
02:16:57,879 --> 02:17:01,600
my YouTube channel up there too. My YouTube channel's me

2302
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:05,000
shooting sling shots. I just do a little thirty second

2303
02:17:05,559 --> 02:17:08,600
you know, shorts of trick shots and things like, you know,

2304
02:17:08,639 --> 02:17:11,399
for kids or whoever. So it doesn't take up much

2305
02:17:11,399 --> 02:17:13,719
of your time even if you subscribe.

2306
02:17:14,159 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 3: He's entertaining. I like his bridges.

2307
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any audio. I don't talk, believe

2308
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:23,239
it or not. I don't talk any of the videos,

2309
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:25,799
you know, and I just you know, it's just shooting

2310
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:29,600
fun But what's funny about this story? They've come to

2311
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:32,639
call it the Ronnie millsap story. Is when I told it,

2312
02:17:33,479 --> 02:17:40,920
H Spencer thought it was hilarious and he just he

2313
02:17:41,079 --> 02:17:44,760
thought it was funnier than anybody. But and here's the story.

2314
02:17:46,719 --> 02:17:49,159
In every town where I worked at, I had lots

2315
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:54,159
of stars, movie stares, country stores, soap opera store, anybody

2316
02:17:54,239 --> 02:17:57,159
you could think of, kind of scattered out there. And

2317
02:17:58,399 --> 02:18:03,360
I've probably driven by this how over the years, easily

2318
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:07,760
hundreds of times. Now you think, oh, I'm exaggerating. No,

2319
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:10,319
this was on a main strip and I went up

2320
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:14,799
and down that strip fifty times a day sometimes. Well

2321
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:22,879
here's this nice house all fenced in with a big

2322
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:26,879
you know fence all the way around it. I'm talking

2323
02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:29,680
like a brick fence, you know, and a gate. I

2324
02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:31,719
had never been to the house. I've been in this

2325
02:18:31,799 --> 02:18:35,639
area town for many, many years. Well, we get an

2326
02:18:35,680 --> 02:18:38,760
alarm there one day, so I go down there to it.

2327
02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:42,879
Sure enough, there's this gate. Now this seemed like a mansion,

2328
02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:46,600
but this is a very nice single story home, you know,

2329
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:49,440
with a pool. And the main thing is it does

2330
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:52,280
have a lot of real estate around it for this

2331
02:18:52,639 --> 02:18:56,200
you know area of town also, So this is a

2332
02:18:56,239 --> 02:18:59,639
well to do area, and I rang the little box

2333
02:18:59,680 --> 02:19:03,000
there at the gate. Of course, there was no response,

2334
02:19:03,079 --> 02:19:06,079
and on rain again no response. So I backed out

2335
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:09,840
and I'm kind of driving along with the fence with

2336
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:12,639
his brick fence to my right, and I see a

2337
02:19:12,680 --> 02:19:14,879
guy down there mowing. So I just whipped in the

2338
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:17,200
next driveway and got out, and of course the guy

2339
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:19,959
stopped and I said, hey, how are you. I said, uh,

2340
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,479
do you know your neighbor? I said, their alarm is

2341
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:25,280
going off over here, and he goes, well, I ain't

2342
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:28,760
seeing nobody in or out. He goes, uh. He goes,

2343
02:19:28,799 --> 02:19:32,680
that's Ronnie Millsamp's house. And I said, well, his alarm's

2344
02:19:32,719 --> 02:19:34,879
going on. And now I've been to lots of I've

2345
02:19:34,879 --> 02:19:38,159
been to lots of famous people's houses on not really

2346
02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:43,079
great stuff, but this was just a burglar alarm. And

2347
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:46,319
well I looked over on this guy's property and he

2348
02:19:46,360 --> 02:19:50,600
had some scaffolding leaned up against the fence, and I said, man,

2349
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:52,760
you mind if I climb your scaffolding there and go

2350
02:19:52,840 --> 02:19:54,920
over into his yard. He goes, man, have at it.

2351
02:19:54,959 --> 02:19:57,479
So I just climbed the scaffolding. I mean, if I

2352
02:19:57,600 --> 02:20:00,200
come to check your house on a burger alarm. Man,

2353
02:20:00,239 --> 02:20:03,200
I check your stuff, I check your winds, I check

2354
02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:05,799
your doors. I'm gonna come in there and check. That's

2355
02:20:05,879 --> 02:20:08,799
just the way I did things, So over I went.

2356
02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:11,040
The first thing you do is you learn all the

2357
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:12,959
tricks to see if there's a dog in the yard,

2358
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:15,399
and we'll get to those next time. Because I learned

2359
02:20:15,399 --> 02:20:18,799
all these from people. There wasn't no dogs running loose.

2360
02:20:19,319 --> 02:20:21,600
It would have been a beautiful place for a big

2361
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:26,760
shepherd to be loosen there. But and this was when

2362
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:31,040
I was working canine too, you know, well, I jumped

2363
02:20:31,079 --> 02:20:33,559
the fence started kind of walking around. The first thing

2364
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:36,200
we normally do is go and knock on a door

2365
02:20:36,319 --> 02:20:39,959
or something first, because if it's a false alarm and

2366
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:42,959
you look out and see the police walking around your

2367
02:20:43,079 --> 02:20:45,959
backyard looking and peeking in your wins, that's just going

2368
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:49,200
to scare you today. So of course I went and knocked,

2369
02:20:49,319 --> 02:20:52,520
you know, rang the doorbell. Wasn't no answer for a minute,

2370
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:55,000
and I kind of backed up. Was looking around some

2371
02:20:55,159 --> 02:20:58,719
cars on the car port and feeling of the hoods

2372
02:20:58,719 --> 02:21:00,959
of the cars. There's another tree you learn see if

2373
02:21:00,959 --> 02:21:03,479
the goods warmed, if anybody just got home, set the

2374
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:06,840
alarm off. All of a sudden, the door opens and

2375
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:09,799
I turned around and looked, and I hear like hello,

2376
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:13,520
And I walked over there and and as I get

2377
02:21:13,559 --> 02:21:16,159
to the door, I look and there's Ronnie mil Saup.

2378
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:19,559
You know, I mean, this is we listened to him

2379
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:21,879
on Sunday mornings before we go to church on the

2380
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:26,799
eight track back then you remember that, And uh, I still.

2381
02:21:26,559 --> 02:21:27,600
Speaker 3: Got something in this closet.

2382
02:21:28,799 --> 02:21:33,079
Speaker 2: And of course I recognized him, you know, instantly, and

2383
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:38,280
uh and in my mind, I remember just thinking it's

2384
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:41,159
Ronnie meal Sap, you know, just I mean I've seen

2385
02:21:41,239 --> 02:21:44,079
him before that functions or where I was working security

2386
02:21:44,159 --> 02:21:47,799
or something like that. And uh, I said, mister meal Sap,

2387
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:51,280
I said, ah, I said, uh, I'm sew and so

2388
02:21:51,399 --> 02:21:55,280
and your burger alarms going off and he goes, well,

2389
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,639
and what it was he had a relative come to

2390
02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:59,319
stay with him that hadn't been there before. They had

2391
02:21:59,319 --> 02:22:02,479
set it off something blah blah blah. And I said,

2392
02:22:03,559 --> 02:22:08,000
would you like me to come in? And yeah, Katherine

2393
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:13,239
mcswain's comment down there as somebody already came up with

2394
02:22:13,319 --> 02:22:17,079
that when I'm sorry, but but I asked him, I said, uh,

2395
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,879
I said if you just got if you hear by yourself,

2396
02:22:20,920 --> 02:22:23,120
I can, you know, really take a good look around

2397
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,719
for you. And he goes, well, I appreciate that, and

2398
02:22:26,159 --> 02:22:29,120
I said, I've kind of walked around the back and

2399
02:22:29,159 --> 02:22:33,200
I remember walking in the house and I really didn't

2400
02:22:33,239 --> 02:22:35,719
think about this, but I got my flashlight out because

2401
02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:39,079
it was dark inside the house. I mean, and look,

2402
02:22:39,239 --> 02:22:42,280
it didn't come I didn't think about it. It never

2403
02:22:42,399 --> 02:22:45,159
crossed my Mind's the middle of the day, and then

2404
02:22:45,159 --> 02:22:48,440
all of a sudden it dawned on me. There's no

2405
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:51,920
lights on in the house. It's dark in here, you know,

2406
02:22:52,159 --> 02:22:55,440
other than you know, whatever shade Drambi. It light was open.

2407
02:22:56,319 --> 02:23:00,559
If it had been nighttime, it would have been dark there.

2408
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:06,319
And for some reason, it took me just a minute

2409
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:10,360
to realize that he doesn't have to really turn the

2410
02:23:10,440 --> 02:23:12,760
lights on in the house. You know, he knows us

2411
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:14,760
way around the house like we would know our way,

2412
02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:18,879
our way around our own house. And Spencer just rode

2413
02:23:18,959 --> 02:23:23,719
laughing about that. What's funny is I want we do

2414
02:23:23,799 --> 02:23:26,920
a lot of camp and hike in our mountain spot.

2415
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:31,479
It's coas to Robbinsville, Uh, North Carolina. Well that's where

2416
02:23:31,559 --> 02:23:34,680
Ronnie Millsap's from So last time I was in their

2417
02:23:34,719 --> 02:23:38,440
little Vista center. Uh, you know, put nobody in there

2418
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:41,799
talking to the lady. And Ronnie Millsap. They have like

2419
02:23:42,079 --> 02:23:45,239
a festival, you know for him, you know, every year

2420
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:47,719
that comes up. And I said, I got to tell

2421
02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:50,399
this Ronnie Milsap story. And I told it there, but

2422
02:23:50,639 --> 02:23:54,360
she thought it was hilarious. Well, what's funny is I

2423
02:23:54,399 --> 02:23:59,799
got the alarm again one time, and uh, this time

2424
02:23:59,799 --> 02:24:02,639
I went to the gate and rang the gate and

2425
02:24:02,719 --> 02:24:08,520
somebody went hello, and I said, mister mills Sap And

2426
02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:12,079
I said this is so and so, and he goes, oh,

2427
02:24:12,200 --> 02:24:14,520
the alarm again. I go, yeah, this time he actually

2428
02:24:14,559 --> 02:24:17,559
opened the gate. And I didn't go in the house

2429
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:19,719
this time because he had already you know, been there

2430
02:24:19,879 --> 02:24:22,319
all day, so I just went around outside.

2431
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:26,239
Speaker 9: Anyways, Well, Heather, Heather smacked me in back of the

2432
02:24:26,239 --> 02:24:29,239
neck one time because we were talking about stuff like that,

2433
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:32,200
and she said, oh, I saw Runnie miss out at

2434
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:34,520
the Nashville Airport one time. I said, he didn't see you.

2435
02:24:35,559 --> 02:24:40,959
Oh up, Bama, thank you for being here, buddy. It

2436
02:24:41,159 --> 02:24:44,280
you know, me and you both could talk for hours

2437
02:24:44,319 --> 02:24:45,479
and hours and and.

2438
02:24:45,639 --> 02:24:50,280
Speaker 2: Well, man, I love y'all. I love the uh everybody

2439
02:24:50,319 --> 02:24:52,479
in chat. I'm glad y'all hung in there for a

2440
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:56,000
little while maybe and for for anybody ain't listening to it,

2441
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:59,159
this listening later, man, this is That's really why I'm

2442
02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:03,760
long winded descriptive is I think about guys that are

2443
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:07,920
long haul truckers that are driving listening or or like me, man,

2444
02:25:07,959 --> 02:25:10,280
I love to listen when I'm bush hogging, you know,

2445
02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:13,559
on the earbuds and just and I want to you know,

2446
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:16,680
I want to hear it. So man, that's just me, y'all.

2447
02:25:16,840 --> 02:25:17,799
I am when I am.

2448
02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:18,680
Speaker 3: Well.

2449
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 9: The thing is a storyteller is painting pictures with words.

2450
02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:29,440
And so my my whole family was like that. You know, Uh,

2451
02:25:29,719 --> 02:25:32,239
my dad hunting. You know how idea hunter is.

2452
02:25:32,600 --> 02:25:33,159
Speaker 3: He'll go through it.

2453
02:25:33,319 --> 02:25:36,959
Speaker 9: He'll go through waking up, you know, putting his underwear on,

2454
02:25:37,159 --> 02:25:43,159
and then so anyway, thank y'all, y'all. There there's so

2455
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:46,879
many there's so many funny stories and stuff that we

2456
02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:50,159
could tell. I wish I had another channel so we

2457
02:25:50,159 --> 02:25:51,559
could just do that sometimes.

2458
02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:55,920
Speaker 2: But I remember, uh, remember that, take a note of this.

2459
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:58,840
Who's your squash? This rope? Don't sleep in the moldy

2460
02:25:58,959 --> 02:26:01,799
tint from Let me tell you that story.

2461
02:26:01,479 --> 02:26:05,319
Speaker 9: Sometime, all right, And y'all, thank y'all for being here.

2462
02:26:05,559 --> 02:26:08,760
Bama appreciate it. Text me sometime and I'll try to

2463
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:13,120
get that gift to you. Yeah, bro, I got them

2464
02:26:13,159 --> 02:26:14,799
put up for you, so uh.

2465
02:26:15,479 --> 02:26:20,799
Speaker 3: And we you know, y'all, the Bigfoot community as a

2466
02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:22,959
whole is great. Uh.

2467
02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:27,079
Speaker 9: And you know sometimes drama happens in public and all that,

2468
02:26:27,159 --> 02:26:28,440
and yeah.

2469
02:26:28,319 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Kind of it kind of hurts all of us.

2470
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:31,840
Speaker 9: It hurts no, no, no, back up, it hurts the

2471
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:34,879
subject a little bit. So you know, we appreciate y'all

2472
02:26:34,879 --> 02:26:38,159
coming in and talking to each other and you know,

2473
02:26:38,319 --> 02:26:41,239
being nice and asking how you're doing and all that,

2474
02:26:41,399 --> 02:26:44,799
and that's just to me, that's just the best part

2475
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:49,440
about all of this, you know. So y'all keep it up. Yeah,

2476
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:50,280
thank you, Thank you.

2477
02:26:50,200 --> 02:26:53,479
Speaker 2: Bama man, thank everybody, and chat and thank you Roger

2478
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:54,719
and thank a man too.

2479
02:26:55,399 --> 02:26:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah see she had to take off, so yeah,

2480
02:27:00,159 --> 02:27:02,959
y'all on the next one. All right, I'll talk to

2481
02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:03,520
you later.

2482
02:27:03,719 --> 02:27:13,360
Speaker 2: Later, y'all. Bye bye bye.

2483
02:27:20,639 --> 02:27:23,639
Speaker 5: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where

2484
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:27,079
the moss sangs low and the night leans back, the

2485
02:27:27,120 --> 02:27:31,239
stores must about a shadow tall, big feet moving where

2486
02:27:31,280 --> 02:27:32,399
the moon lad fall.

2487
02:27:32,879 --> 02:27:35,559
Speaker 4: Some say it be some said ghosts in the trees.

2488
02:27:35,959 --> 02:27:38,719
Speaker 2: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.

2489
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:41,760
Speaker 3: But around here, man, we know the call, or we.

2490
02:27:41,920 --> 02:27:47,639
Speaker 5: Just call them friends of squatch, and holler, so lie

2491
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:48,239
that f.

2492
02:27:49,239 --> 02:27:51,319
Speaker 4: Let the cat tell sinking.

2493
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:55,399
Speaker 2: The nine bird nime cowperds. Weaed in here hereund and

2494
02:27:55,719 --> 02:27:59,600
yad the fall it ain't on and ain't gonna know.

2495
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 4: The Greek girl's gold and the shadows get taller. Yeah,

2496
02:28:03,479 --> 02:28:07,239
your cousin living in the squatting the well legions walk

2497
02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:10,600
getting a brave man fuddlter, But I mind your staffing

2498
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:11,360
and squatching.

2499
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:33,239
Speaker 5: How body tell me stories about their thing and sauce

2500
02:28:33,319 --> 02:28:34,600
to ten foot.

2501
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:35,479
Speaker 3: High with a tomb.

2502
02:28:35,559 --> 02:28:40,040
Speaker 4: But y'all red eyes burning like a summer's coat, last

2503
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:44,159
track thig enough to swallow your sober. The old folks laugh, saying,

2504
02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:47,200
don't you fear if grid has been living here for

2505
02:28:47,399 --> 02:28:50,639
hundreds of years, treat them with respect. When the moon

2506
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:53,920
gets smaller, and they'll let you live in squatching.

2507
02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Holler sold that fire, Let the swarm from roll.

2508
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:02,000
Speaker 5: You can hear that that bets right down in your soul.

2509
02:29:02,200 --> 02:29:05,280
Speaker 4: If you hear a drund from the river, call that

2510
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:09,239
ain't no boat crow barking that lord little swamp runner

2511
02:29:09,319 --> 02:29:12,680
steal and the crickets get salt for y'all lie alone

2512
02:29:12,799 --> 02:29:16,559
and spotting the weather break by ties in the fools

2513
02:29:16,639 --> 02:29:17,799
off noble.

2514
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:19,440
Speaker 2: To get walking on that spot.

2515
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:54,559
Speaker 11: And some say gods it old pine ridge. Some say

2516
02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:58,159
he walks from bridge to bridge warm thanks show.

2517
02:29:58,319 --> 02:29:59,920
Speaker 2: When the night comes down.

2518
02:30:00,239 --> 02:30:06,639
Speaker 11: Something big still calls it scrowned, so bank that fire.

2519
02:30:07,120 --> 02:30:10,479
Speaker 4: Hell, Let the night get deep at the willows, which.

2520
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:13,920
Speaker 5: Water cuts up creeps. If you catch us glimpse.

2521
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:17,600
Speaker 11: Through the midnight, holler, just now your head, don't scream.

2522
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:18,760
Speaker 2: And holler them for the wild.

2523
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:21,600
Speaker 11: I'm on spring and the legends getting taller.

2524
02:30:21,399 --> 02:30:25,479
Speaker 4: How wherever it runs in squatching Holly, we ain't scared,

2525
02:30:25,639 --> 02:30:28,639
but we sure stayed cautious down in the dog on

2526
02:30:28,799 --> 02:30:30,239
that squatching holler

2527
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:01,799
Speaker 8: Foo,

