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bucket getter, himself one of the best shooters in BAU
basketball history, and he went to four consecutive four consecutive
at CUAA tournaments.
Speaker 1: He knows how to get to the big dance JT.
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Speaker 3: Well, you definitely look better while you're doing it. And
then sometimes when you look good, you feel good, you
play good.
Speaker 1: Jt Uh.
Speaker 3: Greg Groubelt put this out about twenty hours ago when
the NCAA tournament game b Yu and seven former BOU
players or signings were in the field. B He was
a limited in the first round, and these former Cougars
saw their attorney stays and on opening winking cannon catchings. Georgia,
Hunter Erickson, Hawaii, Doallen Hall, Virginia, Ali, Khalifa, Louisville, Tanner,
Tools and TCU, Colin Chandler Kentucky, and then Jake Wallien Clemson.
Thought it was interesting, man, you look at these guys
that were playing at b YU.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me that all these guys.
Speaker 3: That are playing for other schools, namely you know, Dallen, Tanner,
maybe Colin and Jake. But it's a when you look
at those those names, you look at the schools that
they're playing for. Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia, Louisville, TCU, Kentucky, Clemson.
Speaker 1: What are your immediate reactions?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm happy that they were able
to get to the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 5: Right. Get into the NCAA Tournament is no easy feat.
Speaker 7: I mean when you start to look at it, that
only about you know, eighteen.
Speaker 4: Percent of the Division I eligible schools makes the NCAA Tournament.
That's a massive accomplishment, first of all. Second of all,
every single one of those guys were actually massive contributors.
There weren't just you know, end of the end, of
the bench guys, right, they're playing big minutes, making big plays.
And the other theme that obviously, you know, because our
closness to the church would be justus Christ a lot
of these saints, because you know, a lot of those
guys are a member of the church, the active members
of the church.
Speaker 5: And so I know, I kind of know where you're
going with this.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're going to go there, but
you know I me and so I'm gonna.
Speaker 5: Go there is there a world a world been where
And again I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: He should you know what could or should have, but
I'm just throwing up that's what us in the media,
that's what we do. Is there a world where we
can combine the Bruce you know, the Bruce Brand and
the the A. J. D. Bond says, and the and
the Robert Right the third and the gay Board demons.
Speaker 5: Can we combine those guys with.
Speaker 4: You know, with l DS top tier talent kids and
and I feel like, you know, you get the best
of both worlds, right because you had you know, back
in back in the eighties, Uh, it was the top.
Speaker 7: Tier LDS kids were all coming to BUYU.
Speaker 4: And then you got to the Narni nineties and the
early two thousands, and they kind of started going a
little bit of everywhere, right.
Speaker 7: Chris Burgess is the prime example of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you get to the to the lay
two thousands. At twenty tens, a lot of them started
going back to BUYU right. And I'm talking about myself,
Lucamar tranplaced it, Jimmifer Dad were you know, we were lending.
Speaker 7: Everybody, everybody that we wanted, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I will say we because I was a lot
of the recruiting process, you know, with the loan Peak three.
Speaker 7: And the you know, the Tyler Hawss and and the
Kyle Collins worse than all of that.
Speaker 4: And now we are in the massive nil era, which
again is a great thing.
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of it. I always thought players
should get paid.
Speaker 4: I think that there's a way for you to make
it better and tie it into education. But that's a
different conversation right now.
Speaker 5: The question that I asked.
Speaker 4: You Ben, you know, and the question that maybe you
know bake the Poll of the day sometime this week,
how can you combine the top tier of thes talent
with the top tier talent of the nil can bring you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the issue is, you know, if
these LDS players are more development players, like you know,
or they have injury issues or you know what I mean,
like how can they develop? One of the issues was
Jake Wallen when he came back from his mission. I mean,
b what you had a pretty stacked roster. Maybe wouldn't
have got a whole lot of PT. And he goes
elsewhere he had grown and goes elsewhere and he gets
more PT maybe elsewhere Dallen Hall. Would he have been
a starter at b YU Probably not right, He wouldn't
have been.
Speaker 1: The starter, So it goes elsewhere.
Speaker 3: So it's hard man, because you want to retain the
culture right, the grit right, and the identity, and like
you value by maybe more than the mercenary that comes
in a one and done or And not to say
aj doesn't value BAU. He said, Look, I want to
keep my relationship with BYU on those things.
Speaker 1: But Richie is a legend now for BYU.
Speaker 3: You know, even though he had an you know, an
injury that you know derailed his two thousand and twenty
six March Madness Todd King run. But you know, the
it's it's a dynamic that only ky I think Brian
Santiago and his staff, BYU's coaching staff have to be
able to navigate it. You need a lot of You
probably need a healthy amount of like i'd say traditionalists
like a BYU kind of like you know, hey, who
are we and to remind them maybe internally in those meetings,
because you have those group meetings, those board meetings, and
internally who's the one that's like no, Like, we got
to figure out how to maintain retain that high level
LDS guy even if he's not getting initial PT or
even if he's not started.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: And it totally makes sense? And you know, now I'm
gonna ask a question. It's gonna be kind of facetious,
but it's a valid question. And we don't know the
answer to that question yet. Ken Kevin Young developed years. Ken,
that's Steph developed layers. I don't know the answer to
that because I you know, aside from Richie, which again
maybe it's a loaded question, right, that's undeserving, But Richie developed,
so they clearly can develop, right, But what about role players?
Speaker 5: Mahilo didn't develop. Mahilo actually went backwards.
Speaker 4: If you will right, Keba developed, But then you know,
was it injury that kept Keba from playing at the
level that we saw and we hoped that he would
play for the whole season, And so we don't know, right,
I mean, truly, you can't just answer that. And so
I think I think it's a fair point. You know,
it's definitely worth the conversation, you know, But then and
I think would it could have shoot have right? I mean,
and I mean no disrespect to a laxey Kostach, you.
Speaker 5: Know, because he's just a freshman.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, Ben all the freshman, and
I was a hype the freshman, and I delivered my
freshman here. Well, JT, but you only did this, I'm
like sure, But you know, like I have, you.
Speaker 3: Found a roll, you found a role on, maximize it
and spent all your hours outside of maybe going on
a date or two in school shooting shooting hoops right,
getting your shots up at certain spots on the floor.
You knew where you're getting your shots right, Where were
you getting your reps? Quarner threes, Quarner threes right, Quarner threes,
like all day.
Speaker 4: And that's my only beef with with the way that
this you know, this this.
Speaker 7: This thing you know, and that I even had an
argument with.
Speaker 4: Someone on Twitter, because at the end of the day,
there's a difference between heavy, you know, blue collar glasses
like you.
Speaker 5: I was just the greatest thing his lifespread. I think
it is Sue and Ben sold to you.
Speaker 4: I would say, Ben, more than fifty percent of your
success as a professional came from a relationship with y U.
Speaker 7: US being critical of Buyu doesn't mean.
Speaker 4: That we love the place, but it needs to be
said then like the team underperformed high underperform. Gnard performed
below expectations, so did Tyler Maruss and so did Alexate Coastage.
I would say, you know, I would love to have
a feedback fan because you actually engaged with it a lot.
What did you think of the grades that gave out,
just you know, for the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they were fair.
Speaker 3: You know you you were really harsh on Tyler Maruss.
I was never as like high on Maruss maybe as
you were, But you know, I understand why you liked
him and thought that he could fit the mold.
Speaker 1: He he was.
Speaker 5: I think that's I think I think that's a fair
thing to say.
Speaker 1: That yeah, I would say.
Speaker 3: The only yeah, The only feedback I would give is like,
I don't know if anybody else was as high or
has had as high of expectations on Maruss as you did.
Speaker 5: And I think that's a fair thing to say.
Speaker 4: And from that perspective, I'll say, maybe I was wrong
that I had the high expectation. But good grief, the
guy makes four or five threes and he comes to.
Speaker 8: The Meyrit Center and he's one of the top guys
at Uyu goes after. And when I mean top guys,
is one of the guys that they said, hey, we
actually want this person, and he come and played for us.
But and that's the part of me, and maybe that's
the competitor, right that I don't understand, because here's the
thing that if you know.
Speaker 5: Imagine that you have. I don't know, I don't remember
who was the top quarterback. It wasn't Matt Liner, but.
Speaker 4: You know whoever was the top quarterback and the top
receiver and Reggie Bush were there, and you were.
Speaker 5: On that USC team or you were in that Texas
team and.
Speaker 4: You were with Joe Burrow and the guys in front
of you got hurt and you had the opportunity to
play for a nationally recognize brand because the most talked
about player in the country was on your roster. What
would you been the competitor, Ben Crittle, what would you
have done with that opportunity or for you know, six
than eight weeks that are closing in front of you,
would you let would you just mess up? Or would
you eat, sleep and just live? You know, between classes,
in between the workout room. That's the thing that I
don't understand.
Speaker 3: Why the lack of sense of urgency, the lack of
sense of urgency, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and I and I don't care what people say.
I'm never going to understand that I'm supportive of YU.
I'm a donor to BYU, I work for BYU, for
for the media department at Uyu TV. I just don't
understand how they passed up such an opportunity because there
will never be another A J. Bonsa or the likelihood
of that happening is extremely small.
Speaker 3: Can I give you my theory on this? And granted
I don't have cameras down there, I don't like I'm
not roaming around the Marriott Center Annex, et cetera. Like
I don't know what everyone's like schedules are and things
of that nature. But I think when you bring in
a pro style organization and the organizational design is pro style,
like you know, Kobe got in work before everybody else
even arrived, right, the Mamba mentality, right, he can get
in any time. If you're only willing to do the minimum,
you're probably gonna get the minimum results. And I think
when you're like if I'm Tyler Maruss, if I'm Alexa Costik,
all those guys like they they're in a professional system
right now, they're thinking, well, I'm doing the minimum, I'm
showing up, I'm at practice, I'm getting up shots. But
what they don't realize is the maximum where they have
macro growth is actually getting to the gym probably two
hours before everybody.
Speaker 1: Getting up shots, and then staying an extra hour and a.
Speaker 3: Half two hours after practice, and that's where they get
the ROI I don't own a pro system, and I
don't know how often that's really micromanaged because the expectations
as your pro.
Speaker 4: But can I tell you even the point even to
point alboy you're saying makes my argument even worse, Like
it gives even more value, more validation to my argument
because if that's the reality of it, then are you
kidding me that people weren't jumping at this opportunity? Even
more coach, imagine Ben, Ben, when you and I were
in college, I freaking had to rebound after every single
shot I took for like two years until we finally
got the gun, and.
Speaker 5: Then I was final, and then I was fine. I
was finally able to get the gun.
Speaker 4: It was it was the greatest thing that the program
had none, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Like were you like so grateful when you got the gun,
Like when you had that thing coming right back to you.
Speaker 4: And and well and then Ben, But compared to today,
where I know for a fact there's over a dozen
managers that they are there and you can reach out
to any of them to go get rebounds for you.
And so that's to me, that's crazy that you have
the availability you have, the place, you have the time,
Like half of these dudes are doing online school.
Speaker 7: And so I'm gonna put it on the players, and.
Speaker 4: If fans disagree with me, so be it, okay, because
I've been I've been there, and I've done and I
did that with much less resources than these dudes days.
Go ahead, and call me on co Rico for our
you can and.
Speaker 5: Then why are you calling me on caricle?
Speaker 4: Go look up all the records that I set at
the school and so like, I have all these things
that I just don't understand. And to your point, if
it is a pro style, I put it more on
the players than I do on the coaches, even more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan Tavnar, Ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, the
Brazilian bomber. I hope we see Texas go off from
their eleven seed playing game like UCLA did in twenty
twenty one. I hope Ucla made it to a Final
four that year. And I wonder if Texas the Longhorn
is about to do it. Because Shawn Miller's a.
Speaker 9: Heck of a coach's very good. How does he lose
fourteen games?
Speaker 5: Is my question?
Speaker 3: I think I think, look, you know, coaches coaching under
the brightest lights, and this is year one for him.
This is this is his squad that he built, and
that that that it's a bit of a mercenary crew,
right that's it's it's year one.
Speaker 1: So he's got talent there.
Speaker 10: No doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will wrap I will wrap up with this
just for you guys, I.
Speaker 5: Will finish with this what I could a shoot it?
Speaker 4: But what I missed opportunity because if Texas was able
to keep doing zagga.
Speaker 5: The way they did, Ye b Uyu.
Speaker 4: Uyu played told to toll with with Texas playing horrible.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine if.
Speaker 4: They had to figure out a way to win that game,
Y would have been in the sweet sixteen now.
Speaker 9: Easily would have won by fifteen plus. And it gets
no easier because guess what, Jack Calhoun is now in
the conference and Randy Bennett is back from the w CC.
Speaker 3: So yeah, crazy man, Yeah, well coaches man insane? All right,
j T. We appreciate you, man. I always love talking
ball with you. Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 4: Always in forever fellas, go kubs, We're talking next week.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's Jonathan devn Are, the Brazilian Brazilian bomber, the sixth
Man of the Year back in the Mount West Conference days.
Speaker 10: So I have a question for you. What grades do
you give them?
Speaker 9: Because the only grade I disagree with him and we
can talk later and I and I texted and told
him I don't know if I give KBA B I
might downgrade that to like a B minus C plus.
There are times where Outee came to be as physical
as I want him to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I concussions and the hand injury.
Speaker 1: Concussions was significantly like impacted him because he.
Speaker 9: Got knocked again in the Big twelve Tournament. I think
where I'm just like, my goodness, Like, I don't think
you tell me, have you ever seen a basketball player
get hit that much in the head in the season.
I just I just felt bad from like I'm like,
my goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to put like one of those like
seven on seven helmets on.
Speaker 10: Trust me, I'm allowed.
Speaker 1: There's anything to like protect that.
Speaker 10: No, And we talked about, right, we're in a mask.
K have had double mats.
Speaker 1: For I'm not even talking about the mask. I mean, yeah,
get to not get hit. But like I'm talking about like.
Speaker 3: That like seven on seven like soft shell his helmet, man,
I think all of the and then obviously the hand too.
Speaker 1: So yeah it is.
Speaker 3: And look, the point is the Biggs regressed, And we
talked about this the entire freaking year.
Speaker 1: The regression. They didn't improve.
Speaker 9: Stretch five I'm ahilow aggressive didn't and that's when they
got beat up. Like, if you look at all aspects
of the game, then Texas guards didn't kill you like
they you know, they made shots, but really where the
regression was was the big man like you. And I'm serious,
you know, and and I'm gonna ask Darnell this, you know,
and in in in the next couple of segments. But
I firmly believe if you have Foos or Ali Khalifa,
you win that game against Texas. They punished Volgatitis because
fus even at six six Ali's I mean, no, no, I'm serious.
The three point ability like that stretches the floor. Volgatitis
has to come out of the paint. He has to
come out of the.
Speaker 1: Paint a lot of then a lot of ugatitises.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about the defensive van defensive rivers,
offensive rebounds.
Speaker 1: Titans dominated on.
Speaker 3: The offensive, Like yeah, absolutely, I don't think by the
backs and out the the cheven before.
Speaker 9: He's not been his ability to pass or he's gonna
stretch before like.
Speaker 3: What you're talking about defensive rebound. I'm not trying to
pressure out, but I don't know, I just think you
could impacted the game. Fos Fos. I think probably it
probably boxes app witha titus better than anybody that we will.
Speaker 9: When I say that, I mean Ali's gonna be tasted
guarding him. He's not going to be able to kill
him on the glass. But I think when Ba he
runs his offensive is not a defensive players. But I
think vo In foul trouble having to come all the
way outside of the paint and have to play defense
at the perimeter and then move his legs with all
he's passive.
Speaker 3: If he's not, then he got to slow down a
little bit in the NC Double Tournament.
Speaker 10: But but he would because all the other bo players were.
So it is what it is, and it is you know,
but it's just the point is this.
Speaker 9: It goes back to the thing the bigs regress been
and Kevin, you needs to do this or they're going
to fail again. And I'm being declear of about this.
You need to get it back to the basket big
or something else. A guy that's a premier all like
Vogatida shot a rebounder because they didn't they didn't have
that this year and it didn't work and Keva got hurt,
and then the experiment will be do did not work
in Mohilo didn't step up, and it was he performed
in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's and once again he has no offensive Yeah.
Speaker 10: Well that's the thing. Yeah, he just grabbed your boards.
Speaker 9: You need an offensive guy, so you can't handle either. Yeah,
so you need to handle. You need to go find
a big that can hand play the.
Speaker 1: Defense and rebound.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you need to be six eleven or seven
foot to do that. So yeah, it's tough. Look, gonna
be a long off season, but it's learning solid.
Speaker 3: The only the only silver lining in all this is
that you just hope Texas just goes to the final
four and like, oh, you know, we just gotta he's
got a tough draw again.
Speaker 9: Tough draw beat You're like, yeah, Texas was better than
everybody anticipated.
Speaker 3: Yes, totally similar to the eleven seed u c l A,
that UCLA team that went to a final four.
Speaker 1: That's what it reminds me of right now.
Speaker 9: If that happens, Ben, then you're not wrong, Like I'm serious.
If they beat Purdue, it's that UCLA thing all over again.
Speaker 3: You say, I ended up losing to the number one
season Zaga in the final.
Speaker 1: Four, which made sense ninety three to ninety that year.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was zagging losing to Baylor in the
national championship game.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's twenty twenty one. It's crazy, and Mick
Cronin was the coach of that team. So you wonder
Sean Miller, who has has a great resume. Like I said, Ben,
it doesn't get any easier. I've reached out to the
to the Arizona people and the Cincinnati people. We're gonna
get Chris Cartman on the show later in the week
to discuss Randy Bennett. Benn's coming back to haunt you.
It don't get no easier. He's gonna change the Arizona
State program. That's a proven coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some big moves going on right now, the big
tweve give us a little breakdown just just briefly, Ronnie,
this news broke earlier today.
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. Did you know there were rumors?
Speaker 9: Obviously, Jeff Goodman on the Field of sixty Yet said
there were rumors about that. Randy Bennett and Chris Cartman
of Era of the Sun Sun Devil source said, Okay,
Randy Bennett is you know, projected to their sources tell
them to be the next Arizona State head coach that
came up off early and you know, per On and
three not breaking, they're hiring him, you know. And Jeff
Goodman also confirmed that as well as Chris Cartman. And
then not just that, Ben, this is per Pete Nichols
and I had discussed this on the Morning show a
few weeks ago. I said, I don't know if Jered
Calhoun will stay with Utah State with what he's done.
I was like, And when they fired Wes Miller, Ben
he was the first name said he is a Cincinnati alum.
That is his alma modern and breaking per On three
to Pete Nicos, Cincinnati is set to hire Jered Calhoun
as his next head coach. That Utah State job is
a feeder program. If you go to Utah stepping stre
if you go to Utah State, you're going to be
a head coach in a big, a premier conference.
Speaker 10: How many coaches have we seen?
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter if they've lasted Craig Smith, Now Jered
Calhoun is multiple. I can go through what is it,
Ryan odom of a VCU or Utah State VCU now Virginia.
So Ben, the Big twelve just got way tougher in
my opinion, because Randy Bennett and Jered Calhoun approven coaches,
They're going to bring their players to them to the
Big Twelve Conference. So those programs that were mid last
year at the bottom, they're not going to be that
way going in the next season, not with Randy Benn
and Jered Calhoun having more NIL money in the game
and to do that.
Speaker 10: So we'll see.
Speaker 9: But those are my thoughts on the matter. To give
you update kind of Big Twelve Basketball update. The conference
is changing, getting tougher.
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Speaker 11: We start on the diamond today, where after losing the
first two games of the series to twenty first ranked
Oklahoma State, YU softball jumped out to an early two
to nothing lead thanks to a Lily Owens home run
in the top of the first, and that point on
BYU never trailed on their way to a seven to
three win. Baseball didn't fair so well, as they ended
up being swept by West Virginia, where weather ended up
playing a huge role in the series. Back on the court, BYU,
men's volleyball swept Concordia Irvine over the weekend. His coach
Olmsted is down just one win away from tying the
all time record for most wins by a men's volleyball
coach in school history. As we stayed in the wind Callum,
we saw women's tennis extend their winning streak to four
matches with a four to three win over Texas Tech
on Saturday, and the men's and women's tracking field team
saw four first place finishes for the men and three
top ten times for the women at the Utah Tech
Invitational on Saturday down in Saint George. The only other
event that took place last weekend was the BYU women's
gymnastics in the Big Twelve tournament, where they placed third
on the New side of things. BYU gymnastics coach Guard
Young was named the Big Twelve Coach of the Year,
while Dill J. Taylor was named the USTFCCCA National Assistant
Coach of the Year, but Jane Headinggren winning the award
for the Women's Runner of the Year for the indoor season.
To day's games feature the second round of the WBIT
where the number one overall seeded BYU women's basketball team
takes on fourth seeded Missouri. That game tips at seven
o'clock tonight on ESPN Plus and What'll We played in
the Marriott Center also today, men's golf is currently competing
in the GCAA Bridgestone Collegiate Invitational. I'm Cameron Clark and
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Madness tournament has been phenomenal. Aj Steell projected to be
the number one pick depending where you're looking at Darren
Peterson as well, but DNP per Jamie Shaw over the
last couple of games only averaging nineteen points. Think he's
shooting under forty percent, not doing well. Don't know if
that's due to hey got to play because of narrative,
because you haven't been playing it's March Madness, or you know.
Speaker 10: Is he is he really is he really hurt. I
guess we're gonna find out.
Speaker 9: With the NBA combine coming up later, we'll find out
what's going on. But Darren Peterson no longer in the tournament,
Agd Bondson long in the tournament.
Speaker 10: Native min is with Tennessee. You got a bunch of
other people as well.
Speaker 9: Braden Burry's is still playing over there for Arizona Copete,
a lot of projected draft picks that are still going Kingston,
Fleming and Houston are still going strong.
Speaker 10: So we will see.
Speaker 9: I brought it up because you know, in the last
second at the end, I talked about the coaches that
are moving over now to Cincinnati and Arizona State. The
Big twelve is getting no easier, and you have to
wonder Bill self has struggled recently. He's really struggled with
this tournament play. I think the last four tournaments he's
gone out early. It just hasn't been what maybe that
he expected. So it's tough. And then, like I said,
coaches coming from other conferences like the Utah State the
last four coaches, I just want to mention this, Craigsmith
three years he left for Utah and then he was
later fired. Ryan Odam who I mentioned two years left
for VCU and A he's at Virginia.
Speaker 10: They just lost to Tendessee.
Speaker 9: Danny Sprinkle one year, left for Washington, Jered Calhoun one
year and left for Cincinnati. Looks you go to Utah
State and you do well in that first year, you
might only be there for one but hey, at the
end of the day, you're going to somehow end up
in a good coaching position. And the last four coaches
have done so. But that's what it's about. But anyway,
the point is Bill Self. You have to wonder if
is he on his way out?
Speaker 10: Could he retire? If that's the case, he was in
the post game.
Speaker 9: We're gonna play this sound for you here momentarily as
I'm getting it pulled up right now, I don't know.
This is one of you know, people put him on
the Mount Rushmore coaches, and that's not why Probleet people
believe Bill Self. They put him up there obviously with
you know, mis Kozhewky. They put him up there with
Tom Izzo. Is a bunch of other coaches, you know,
Dan Hurley and but Bill self really has made a
name for Kansas, built it, you know, honestly from the
ground up and how he's done it. So what is
next for Bill's self?
Speaker 5: You know, because the.
Speaker 10: Sleeping Giants BYU? Is he running out of stuff? I
mean he's got unlimited innio, He's got stuff.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: He got Darren Peterson and he's getting another projected picks.
You got Flori Badunga. He was able to get Trey White,
he was able to get Melvin Counsel junior. He's got
a good basketball team program. But is Bill self? Is
his time coming to a close in Kansas? Let's tune
in to what you have to say after Kansas lost
in a buzzer beater to Saint John's.
Speaker 10: Eric Patino gone through on and.
Speaker 3: Off the court, how much time will you take to
reflect upon what is next done?
Speaker 5: Just on this stage of your career.
Speaker 12: Well, I haven't really gone through much on the court,
you know, I've gone through some stuff off the court.
So I'll get back and get with family and visit
and see what's going on.
Speaker 10: I love what I do.
Speaker 12: Uh, you know, I need to able to do it
where I'm feeling good and healthy to do it, you know,
you know fairly well, So I'll get back home and
it'll all be discussed.
Speaker 10: Michael Swaying twenty four seven Sports. He talked a lot
about physicality going to this game. How do you feel
like your team matched up in that regard?
Speaker 1: I thought great.
Speaker 12: After the start of the game, I thought, I thought
the I thought the first five.
Speaker 1: So there it is.
Speaker 9: That's Darren Peterson right there. And just to give you
the numbers, you know, round of sixty four versus CBU,
he had twenty eight points one rebound eleven to twenty
four from the field. He is four eleven from three.
And then the round of thirty two versus Saint John's
twenty one points four rebounds bob and fifteen three of
it from the field. Not a lot of assistance, man,
It does not pass the ball. He gets the ball
passed to him. So you have to wonder, you know.
And look. Stephen A. Smith was earlier this morning on
first trick saying, this is not an investment that you
can trust. You know, it's a number one overall pick
following the loss. You know, you just don't know. But
Bill's self says he doesn't know.
Speaker 5: You know that.
Speaker 9: He's like, I love what I do, but I'm not
going to be able to do it where I'm I'm
feeling good and healthy to do it, he said, I
need to be able to be there like we all.
Like with any job, with any coach, with any player,
the body has to be feeling or connected to BYU.
In a sense of Dawson Baker, a lot of people
want to see the bucket getter back in the by uniform. Well,
in order for that to happen, you know, kind of
the same thing. So obviously, Dawson Baker I believe loves basketball.
But you know, you have to be healthy, you have
to get back from injury. But I think you know
the bucket getter number twenty five will be coming back.
But this princevilleill applies to every rule of life, whether
it's sports, whether it's business, all of it comes to
a close. And now Bill self is debating. So could
you see Bill's self retire? He says, he'll get back home,
he'll address it of what's next for his career. And look,
everybody's career is coming, you know, to a close. I
think all good things come to an end. I don't
think Bill self is going to be retiring anytime soon,
but then again, you never know. You always have to
keep your head on a swivel. Someone online I was
showing Ben this earlier this morning. It was funny. I
think it was a Kansas State fan. They are like AI,
I guess Jerome Tank in a Kansas you know what
three quarters. That's not happening. I don't think that's happening.
I can understand why people think I'd be shocked if
it was. I don't think it's at coaching assistant. No,
I don't think that they would go that route at all,
not at all. But I don't believe Bill self is
going to retire at the end of this year and
not yet. I think he's got a lot left in
the tank, especially like I mentioned earlier in the segment,
he can get the money to that Kansas you could
argue as a basketball school like they got the investment.
He's got the heart. And as long as you're getting
players like Darren Peterson and you're getting a narrative built
around and you're winning in the Big Twelve, and you're
beating schools like BYU, you're going at it, beating the
Eyewa States, who's making a run. You're going toe to
toe with the Houston as long as you're competing and winning.
I don't think you're going to see Bill sever tarre,
but I wanted to bring it up. How many years
does Bill self have over under three and a half.
I guess we'll find out. We'll see a lot of
these coaches are in their seventies that I mentioned earlier
in the show. You got Rick Patino who's seventy three,
Tom Izzo's seventy one, John kla PARTI sixty seven. Never know,
a lot of these coaches have a lot left in
the tanks. So we'll see what they do. Mix Ra
Chefsky said, I'm out. He said, I got how many
national championships? Yeah, I don't need to keep coaching. He's got seven.
But I mean when you coach for twenty five thirty years,
you should get there, you know.
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