1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,439 Speaker 1: Your free in home estimate. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,639 Speaker 2: If you're tuned to Cougar Sports on kov O probo 3 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,599 k U d d HD two one oh three, nine 4 00:00:07,599 --> 00:00:13,359 and ninety eight three ESPN the Van. The backness of 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,120 marches right around the corner, and the Cougars are in 6 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:18,920 the metal of it. It's time to talk some college 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,760 basketball on Cougar Sports with Ben Cripple. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,879 Speaker 3: Welcome back Cougar Sports one O three nine ninety eight 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,879 point three ESPN the Fan. I've been critinal broadcasting from 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,039 our Vanderwealth Studios Banderwealth dot com. 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Welcome in Jonathan Tabanari, the 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 bucket getter, himself one of the best shooters in BAU 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,480 basketball history, and he went to four consecutive four consecutive 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,560 at CUAA tournaments. 38 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:51,439 Speaker 1: He knows how to get to the big dance JT. 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,120 How you live it? 40 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:56,439 Speaker 4: Hey man, I you know I do know what I'm 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 doing when I get there, and so I, you know, 42 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:01,959 shout out, I appreciate you're recognizing, and shout out. 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: To Premo Golf Apparel. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: You know, one of their one of their founders and 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,840 I don't know if it was their CEO or CEO 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,000 was just named a you know, Utah forty under Utah 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Business forty under forty and uh, I got to see 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,159 him there in the ceremony. 49 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: I was there with I'm one of my. 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: Closest friends and uh and so big time brand. They're 51 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:29,560 doing big time things, high quality and uh, you know 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,520 ord on the treaties that as soon as you wear 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,800 prem golf apparel, you automatically become five handy up. So 54 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:38,960 you know, shout out, shout out to all of those 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:39,680 people over. 56 00:02:39,479 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: There doing the doing their thing. 57 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,719 Speaker 3: Well, you definitely look better while you're doing it. And 58 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:45,960 then sometimes when you look good, you feel good, you 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,639 play good. 60 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,319 Speaker 1: Jt Uh. 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,319 Speaker 3: Greg Groubelt put this out about twenty hours ago when 62 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:55,639 the NCAA tournament game b Yu and seven former BOU 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,599 players or signings were in the field. B He was 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,960 a limited in the first round, and these former Cougars 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,759 saw their attorney stays and on opening winking cannon catchings. Georgia, 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Hunter Erickson, Hawaii, Doallen Hall, Virginia, Ali, Khalifa, Louisville, Tanner, 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,319 Tools and TCU, Colin Chandler Kentucky, and then Jake Wallien Clemson. 68 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:16,479 Thought it was interesting, man, you look at these guys 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,719 that were playing at b YU. 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy to me that all these guys. 71 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: That are playing for other schools, namely you know, Dallen, Tanner, 72 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:27,599 maybe Colin and Jake. But it's a when you look 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 at those those names, you look at the schools that 74 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:34,199 they're playing for. Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia, Louisville, TCU, Kentucky, Clemson. 75 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:36,719 Speaker 1: What are your immediate reactions? 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm happy that they were able 77 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,319 to get to the NCAA tournament. 78 00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: Right. Get into the NCAA Tournament is no easy feat. 79 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 7: I mean when you start to look at it, that 80 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:49,639 only about you know, eighteen. 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:55,919 Speaker 4: Percent of the Division I eligible schools makes the NCAA Tournament. 82 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:58,879 That's a massive accomplishment, first of all. Second of all, 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,000 every single one of those guys were actually massive contributors. 84 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:05,319 There weren't just you know, end of the end, of 85 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:08,360 the bench guys, right, they're playing big minutes, making big plays. 86 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:11,439 And the other theme that obviously, you know, because our 87 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:13,879 closness to the church would be justus Christ a lot 88 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:15,719 of these saints, because you know, a lot of those 89 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:17,680 guys are a member of the church, the active members 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,199 of the church. 91 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:20,759 Speaker 5: And so I know, I kind of know where you're 92 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:21,279 going with this. 93 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're going to go there, but 94 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:25,600 you know I me and so I'm gonna. 95 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: Go there is there a world a world been where 96 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,120 And again I'm not saying. 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,399 Speaker 4: He should you know what could or should have, but 98 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:35,920 I'm just throwing up that's what us in the media, 99 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:38,759 that's what we do. Is there a world where we 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,600 can combine the Bruce you know, the Bruce Brand and 101 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 the the A. J. D. Bond says, and the and 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,959 the Robert Right the third and the gay Board demons. 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,879 Speaker 5: Can we combine those guys with. 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 4: You know, with l DS top tier talent kids and 105 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,120 and I feel like, you know, you get the best 106 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,759 of both worlds, right because you had you know, back 107 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,040 in back in the eighties, Uh, it was the top. 108 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 7: Tier LDS kids were all coming to BUYU. 109 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: And then you got to the Narni nineties and the 110 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,439 early two thousands, and they kind of started going a 111 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,560 little bit of everywhere, right. 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,439 Speaker 7: Chris Burgess is the prime example of that. 113 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:20,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you get to the to the lay 114 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:24,240 two thousands. At twenty tens, a lot of them started 115 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,399 going back to BUYU right. And I'm talking about myself, 116 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:32,199 Lucamar tranplaced it, Jimmifer Dad were you know, we were lending. 117 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 7: Everybody, everybody that we wanted, you know what I mean? 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 4: And I will say we because I was a lot 119 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:40,720 of the recruiting process, you know, with the loan Peak three. 120 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 7: And the you know, the Tyler Hawss and and the 121 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Kyle Collins worse than all of that. 122 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: And now we are in the massive nil era, which 123 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:50,959 again is a great thing. 124 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of it. I always thought players 125 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,279 should get paid. 126 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,079 Speaker 4: I think that there's a way for you to make 127 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:59,040 it better and tie it into education. But that's a 128 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,920 different conversation right now. 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,519 Speaker 5: The question that I asked. 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: You Ben, you know, and the question that maybe you 131 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,560 know bake the Poll of the day sometime this week, 132 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,720 how can you combine the top tier of thes talent 133 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,480 with the top tier talent of the nil can bring you. 134 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the issue is, you know, if 135 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:23,000 these LDS players are more development players, like you know, 136 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:25,759 or they have injury issues or you know what I mean, 137 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,839 like how can they develop? One of the issues was 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,759 Jake Wallen when he came back from his mission. I mean, 139 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,959 b what you had a pretty stacked roster. Maybe wouldn't 140 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:37,040 have got a whole lot of PT. And he goes 141 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 elsewhere he had grown and goes elsewhere and he gets 142 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,759 more PT maybe elsewhere Dallen Hall. Would he have been 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,199 a starter at b YU Probably not right, He wouldn't 144 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,560 have been. 145 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: The starter, So it goes elsewhere. 146 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:53,519 Speaker 3: So it's hard man, because you want to retain the 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,560 culture right, the grit right, and the identity, and like 148 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:04,439 you value by maybe more than the mercenary that comes 149 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,639 in a one and done or And not to say 150 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,800 aj doesn't value BAU. He said, Look, I want to 151 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:11,040 keep my relationship with BYU on those things. 152 00:07:11,079 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: But Richie is a legend now for BYU. 153 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:17,879 Speaker 3: You know, even though he had an you know, an 154 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:21,560 injury that you know derailed his two thousand and twenty 155 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:24,800 six March Madness Todd King run. But you know, the 156 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:29,399 it's it's a dynamic that only ky I think Brian 157 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:34,639 Santiago and his staff, BYU's coaching staff have to be 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 able to navigate it. You need a lot of You 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,800 probably need a healthy amount of like i'd say traditionalists 160 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:44,399 like a BYU kind of like you know, hey, who 161 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:48,560 are we and to remind them maybe internally in those meetings, 162 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,600 because you have those group meetings, those board meetings, and 163 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,959 internally who's the one that's like no, Like, we got 164 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,920 to figure out how to maintain retain that high level 165 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,879 LDS guy even if he's not getting initial PT or 166 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:01,439 even if he's not started. 167 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:02,279 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: And it totally makes sense? And you know, now I'm 169 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,199 gonna ask a question. It's gonna be kind of facetious, 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,160 but it's a valid question. And we don't know the 171 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,959 answer to that question yet. Ken Kevin Young developed years. Ken, 172 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,959 that's Steph developed layers. I don't know the answer to 173 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,600 that because I you know, aside from Richie, which again 174 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,319 maybe it's a loaded question, right, that's undeserving, But Richie developed, 175 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,720 so they clearly can develop, right, But what about role players? 176 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,799 Speaker 5: Mahilo didn't develop. Mahilo actually went backwards. 177 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: If you will right, Keba developed, But then you know, 178 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:44,879 was it injury that kept Keba from playing at the 179 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,919 level that we saw and we hoped that he would 180 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,840 play for the whole season, And so we don't know, right, 181 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:54,240 I mean, truly, you can't just answer that. And so 182 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,120 I think I think it's a fair point. You know, 183 00:08:56,159 --> 00:09:00,200 it's definitely worth the conversation, you know, But then and 184 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 I think would it could have shoot have right? I mean, 185 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,360 and I mean no disrespect to a laxey Kostach, you. 186 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:07,879 Speaker 5: Know, because he's just a freshman. 187 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,399 Speaker 4: But at the same time, Ben all the freshman, and 188 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,679 I was a hype the freshman, and I delivered my 189 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,399 freshman here. Well, JT, but you only did this, I'm 190 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:17,440 like sure, But you know, like I have, you. 191 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: Found a roll, you found a role on, maximize it 192 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,279 and spent all your hours outside of maybe going on 193 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,200 a date or two in school shooting shooting hoops right, 194 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:30,080 getting your shots up at certain spots on the floor. 195 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,320 You knew where you're getting your shots right, Where were 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,559 you getting your reps? Quarner threes, Quarner threes right, Quarner threes, 197 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:38,000 like all day. 198 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,279 Speaker 4: And that's my only beef with with the way that 199 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,759 this you know, this this. 200 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 7: This thing you know, and that I even had an 201 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:46,240 argument with. 202 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:49,159 Speaker 4: Someone on Twitter, because at the end of the day, 203 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:53,159 there's a difference between heavy, you know, blue collar glasses 204 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:53,559 like you. 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: I was just the greatest thing his lifespread. I think 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,360 it is Sue and Ben sold to you. 207 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: I would say, Ben, more than fifty percent of your 208 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:03,759 success as a professional came from a relationship with y U. 209 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:06,039 Speaker 7: US being critical of Buyu doesn't mean. 210 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: That we love the place, but it needs to be 211 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,320 said then like the team underperformed high underperform. Gnard performed 212 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,240 below expectations, so did Tyler Maruss and so did Alexate Coastage. 213 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 I would say, you know, I would love to have 214 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,879 a feedback fan because you actually engaged with it a lot. 215 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:24,960 What did you think of the grades that gave out, 216 00:10:25,039 --> 00:10:26,200 just you know, for the season. 217 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they were fair. 218 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,919 Speaker 3: You know you you were really harsh on Tyler Maruss. 219 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,600 I was never as like high on Maruss maybe as 220 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:39,240 you were, But you know, I understand why you liked 221 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,279 him and thought that he could fit the mold. 222 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: He he was. 223 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,879 Speaker 5: I think that's I think I think that's a fair 224 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:44,240 thing to say. 225 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:45,159 Speaker 1: That yeah, I would say. 226 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: The only yeah, The only feedback I would give is like, 227 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,000 I don't know if anybody else was as high or 228 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,879 has had as high of expectations on Maruss as you did. 229 00:10:57,639 --> 00:10:59,159 Speaker 5: And I think that's a fair thing to say. 230 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,919 Speaker 4: And from that perspective, I'll say, maybe I was wrong 231 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,240 that I had the high expectation. But good grief, the 232 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:06,039 guy makes four or five threes and he comes to. 233 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:07,879 Speaker 8: The Meyrit Center and he's one of the top guys 234 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:10,080 at Uyu goes after. And when I mean top guys, 235 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:11,519 is one of the guys that they said, hey, we 236 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,480 actually want this person, and he come and played for us. 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,240 But and that's the part of me, and maybe that's 238 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:20,840 the competitor, right that I don't understand, because here's the 239 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:22,639 thing that if you know. 240 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 5: Imagine that you have. I don't know, I don't remember 241 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,480 who was the top quarterback. It wasn't Matt Liner, but. 242 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:32,159 Speaker 4: You know whoever was the top quarterback and the top 243 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,200 receiver and Reggie Bush were there, and you were. 244 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: On that USC team or you were in that Texas 245 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,120 team and. 246 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: You were with Joe Burrow and the guys in front 247 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,679 of you got hurt and you had the opportunity to 248 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,279 play for a nationally recognize brand because the most talked 249 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,440 about player in the country was on your roster. What 250 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,000 would you been the competitor, Ben Crittle, what would you 251 00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:59,759 have done with that opportunity or for you know, six 252 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,840 than eight weeks that are closing in front of you, 253 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,080 would you let would you just mess up? Or would 254 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,000 you eat, sleep and just live? You know, between classes, 255 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:12,039 in between the workout room. That's the thing that I 256 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,320 don't understand. 257 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,879 Speaker 3: Why the lack of sense of urgency, the lack of 258 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:17,399 sense of urgency, you. 259 00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:20,759 Speaker 4: Know, and I and I don't care what people say. 260 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:23,559 I'm never going to understand that I'm supportive of YU. 261 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:26,720 I'm a donor to BYU, I work for BYU, for 262 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:30,240 for the media department at Uyu TV. I just don't 263 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,200 understand how they passed up such an opportunity because there 264 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:38,960 will never be another A J. Bonsa or the likelihood 265 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,919 of that happening is extremely small. 266 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:43,039 Speaker 3: Can I give you my theory on this? And granted 267 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,480 I don't have cameras down there, I don't like I'm 268 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,759 not roaming around the Marriott Center Annex, et cetera. Like 269 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:52,200 I don't know what everyone's like schedules are and things 270 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,080 of that nature. But I think when you bring in 271 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,440 a pro style organization and the organizational design is pro style, 272 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:04,679 like you know, Kobe got in work before everybody else 273 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,759 even arrived, right, the Mamba mentality, right, he can get 274 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:11,120 in any time. If you're only willing to do the minimum, 275 00:13:11,159 --> 00:13:13,399 you're probably gonna get the minimum results. And I think 276 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,200 when you're like if I'm Tyler Maruss, if I'm Alexa Costik, 277 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,360 all those guys like they they're in a professional system 278 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,600 right now, they're thinking, well, I'm doing the minimum, I'm 279 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,720 showing up, I'm at practice, I'm getting up shots. But 280 00:13:25,799 --> 00:13:28,399 what they don't realize is the maximum where they have 281 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:32,879 macro growth is actually getting to the gym probably two 282 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,519 hours before everybody. 283 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Getting up shots, and then staying an extra hour and a. 284 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: Half two hours after practice, and that's where they get 285 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,559 the ROI I don't own a pro system, and I 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,879 don't know how often that's really micromanaged because the expectations 287 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:48,759 as your pro. 288 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 4: But can I tell you even the point even to 289 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,639 point alboy you're saying makes my argument even worse, Like 290 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,080 it gives even more value, more validation to my argument 291 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:03,919 because if that's the reality of it, then are you 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 kidding me that people weren't jumping at this opportunity? Even 293 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:10,120 more coach, imagine Ben, Ben, when you and I were 294 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:13,679 in college, I freaking had to rebound after every single 295 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,200 shot I took for like two years until we finally 296 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,360 got the gun, and. 297 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 5: Then I was final, and then I was fine. I 298 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:21,840 was finally able to get the gun. 299 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: It was it was the greatest thing that the program 300 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:25,320 had none, wasn't it. 301 00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:28,519 Speaker 3: Like were you like so grateful when you got the gun, 302 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:30,840 Like when you had that thing coming right back to you. 303 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: And and well and then Ben, But compared to today, 304 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,159 where I know for a fact there's over a dozen 305 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,240 managers that they are there and you can reach out 306 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,279 to any of them to go get rebounds for you. 307 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:47,000 And so that's to me, that's crazy that you have 308 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 the availability you have, the place, you have the time, 309 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Like half of these dudes are doing online school. 310 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,519 Speaker 7: And so I'm gonna put it on the players, and. 311 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: If fans disagree with me, so be it, okay, because 312 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,480 I've been I've been there, and I've done and I 313 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:03,159 did that with much less resources than these dudes days. 314 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,919 Go ahead, and call me on co Rico for our 315 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,879 you can and. 316 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: Then why are you calling me on caricle? 317 00:15:07,159 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: Go look up all the records that I set at 318 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,320 the school and so like, I have all these things 319 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,399 that I just don't understand. And to your point, if 320 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,519 it is a pro style, I put it more on 321 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:18,519 the players than I do on the coaches, even more. 322 00:15:18,759 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan Tavnar, Ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, the 323 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:25,960 Brazilian bomber. I hope we see Texas go off from 324 00:15:26,039 --> 00:15:29,720 their eleven seed playing game like UCLA did in twenty 325 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:32,200 twenty one. I hope Ucla made it to a Final 326 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,000 four that year. And I wonder if Texas the Longhorn 327 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,600 is about to do it. Because Shawn Miller's a. 328 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 9: Heck of a coach's very good. How does he lose 329 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:40,120 fourteen games? 330 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 5: Is my question? 331 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,039 Speaker 3: I think I think, look, you know, coaches coaching under 332 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,159 the brightest lights, and this is year one for him. 333 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,240 This is this is his squad that he built, and 334 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,960 that that that it's a bit of a mercenary crew, 335 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,639 right that's it's it's year one. 336 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: So he's got talent there. 337 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 10: No doubt. 338 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will wrap I will wrap up with this 339 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,159 just for you guys, I. 340 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: Will finish with this what I could a shoot it? 341 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: But what I missed opportunity because if Texas was able 342 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,399 to keep doing zagga. 343 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:09,679 Speaker 5: The way they did, Ye b Uyu. 344 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: Uyu played told to toll with with Texas playing horrible. 345 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:15,519 Speaker 5: Can you imagine if. 346 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:17,039 Speaker 4: They had to figure out a way to win that game, 347 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,200 Y would have been in the sweet sixteen now. 348 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 9: Easily would have won by fifteen plus. And it gets 349 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 no easier because guess what, Jack Calhoun is now in 350 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,799 the conference and Randy Bennett is back from the w CC. 351 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,879 Speaker 3: So yeah, crazy man, Yeah, well coaches man insane? All right, 352 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,840 j T. We appreciate you, man. I always love talking 353 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:36,360 ball with you. Thanks for joining us today. 354 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: Always in forever fellas, go kubs, We're talking next week. 355 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 5: There you go. 356 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: That's Jonathan devn Are, the Brazilian Brazilian bomber, the sixth 357 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Man of the Year back in the Mount West Conference days. 358 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,879 Speaker 10: So I have a question for you. What grades do 359 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:48,279 you give them? 360 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 9: Because the only grade I disagree with him and we 361 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,639 can talk later and I and I texted and told 362 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,720 him I don't know if I give KBA B I 363 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:58,360 might downgrade that to like a B minus C plus. 364 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,200 There are times where Outee came to be as physical 365 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,080 as I want him to be. 366 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I concussions and the hand injury. 367 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Concussions was significantly like impacted him because he. 368 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,319 Speaker 9: Got knocked again in the Big twelve Tournament. I think 369 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,480 where I'm just like, my goodness, Like, I don't think 370 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,319 you tell me, have you ever seen a basketball player 371 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,440 get hit that much in the head in the season. 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,759 I just I just felt bad from like I'm like, 373 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:24,480 my goodness. 374 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:26,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to put like one of those like 375 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,720 seven on seven helmets on. 376 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:29,799 Speaker 10: Trust me, I'm allowed. 377 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: There's anything to like protect that. 378 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 10: No, And we talked about, right, we're in a mask. 379 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,640 K have had double mats. 380 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: For I'm not even talking about the mask. I mean, yeah, 381 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,799 get to not get hit. But like I'm talking about like. 382 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,759 Speaker 3: That like seven on seven like soft shell his helmet, man, 383 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,799 I think all of the and then obviously the hand too. 384 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,799 Speaker 1: So yeah it is. 385 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:54,079 Speaker 3: And look, the point is the Biggs regressed, And we 386 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,440 talked about this the entire freaking year. 387 00:17:57,079 --> 00:17:59,759 Speaker 1: The regression. They didn't improve. 388 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,599 Speaker 9: Stretch five I'm ahilow aggressive didn't and that's when they 389 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,559 got beat up. Like, if you look at all aspects 390 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:06,799 of the game, then Texas guards didn't kill you like 391 00:18:06,839 --> 00:18:09,279 they you know, they made shots, but really where the 392 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,359 regression was was the big man like you. And I'm serious, 393 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,519 you know, and and I'm gonna ask Darnell this, you know, 394 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:17,720 and in in in the next couple of segments. But 395 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 I firmly believe if you have Foos or Ali Khalifa, 396 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,200 you win that game against Texas. They punished Volgatitis because 397 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,960 fus even at six six Ali's I mean, no, no, I'm serious. 398 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:33,559 The three point ability like that stretches the floor. Volgatitis 399 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:35,359 has to come out of the paint. He has to 400 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:35,799 come out of the. 401 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Paint a lot of then a lot of ugatitises. 402 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about the defensive van defensive rivers, 403 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:42,079 offensive rebounds. 404 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,799 Speaker 1: Titans dominated on. 405 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: The offensive, Like yeah, absolutely, I don't think by the 406 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,240 backs and out the the cheven before. 407 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,559 Speaker 9: He's not been his ability to pass or he's gonna 408 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:54,319 stretch before like. 409 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: What you're talking about defensive rebound. I'm not trying to 410 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,000 pressure out, but I don't know, I just think you 411 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:04,440 could impacted the game. Fos Fos. I think probably it 412 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:06,880 probably boxes app witha titus better than anybody that we will. 413 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,759 Speaker 9: When I say that, I mean Ali's gonna be tasted 414 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:10,319 guarding him. He's not going to be able to kill 415 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,119 him on the glass. But I think when Ba he 416 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,839 runs his offensive is not a defensive players. But I 417 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:19,000 think vo In foul trouble having to come all the 418 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,359 way outside of the paint and have to play defense 419 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,440 at the perimeter and then move his legs with all 420 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:23,960 he's passive. 421 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: If he's not, then he got to slow down a 422 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,799 little bit in the NC Double Tournament. 423 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,559 Speaker 10: But but he would because all the other bo players were. 424 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,920 So it is what it is, and it is you know, 425 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,079 but it's just the point is this. 426 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 9: It goes back to the thing the bigs regress been 427 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,160 and Kevin, you needs to do this or they're going 428 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,799 to fail again. And I'm being declear of about this. 429 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:43,680 You need to get it back to the basket big 430 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:46,599 or something else. A guy that's a premier all like 431 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,319 Vogatida shot a rebounder because they didn't they didn't have 432 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,279 that this year and it didn't work and Keva got hurt, 433 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:54,359 and then the experiment will be do did not work 434 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,440 in Mohilo didn't step up, and it was he performed 435 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,000 in my opinion. 436 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's and once again he has no offensive Yeah. 437 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:02,839 Speaker 10: Well that's the thing. Yeah, he just grabbed your boards. 438 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 9: You need an offensive guy, so you can't handle either. Yeah, 439 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,799 so you need to handle. You need to go find 440 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:08,920 a big that can hand play the. 441 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,039 Speaker 1: Defense and rebound. 442 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you need to be six eleven or seven 443 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,480 foot to do that. So yeah, it's tough. Look, gonna 444 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:18,839 be a long off season, but it's learning solid. 445 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: The only the only silver lining in all this is 446 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 that you just hope Texas just goes to the final 447 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,039 four and like, oh, you know, we just gotta he's 448 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:26,440 got a tough draw again. 449 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,519 Speaker 9: Tough draw beat You're like, yeah, Texas was better than 450 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:32,599 everybody anticipated. 451 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: Yes, totally similar to the eleven seed u c l A, 452 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,359 that UCLA team that went to a final four. 453 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: That's what it reminds me of right now. 454 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,519 Speaker 9: If that happens, Ben, then you're not wrong, Like I'm serious. 455 00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:47,480 If they beat Purdue, it's that UCLA thing all over again. 456 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: You say, I ended up losing to the number one 457 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:51,839 season Zaga in the final. 458 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:54,079 Speaker 1: Four, which made sense ninety three to ninety that year. 459 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,839 Speaker 3: So yeah, that was zagging losing to Baylor in the 460 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,119 national championship game. 461 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 9: I mean, it's twenty twenty one. It's crazy, and Mick 462 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:04,359 Cronin was the coach of that team. So you wonder 463 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,799 Sean Miller, who has has a great resume. Like I said, Ben, 464 00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:09,759 it doesn't get any easier. I've reached out to the 465 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:12,319 to the Arizona people and the Cincinnati people. We're gonna 466 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,279 get Chris Cartman on the show later in the week 467 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:16,559 to discuss Randy Bennett. Benn's coming back to haunt you. 468 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,680 It don't get no easier. He's gonna change the Arizona 469 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,240 State program. That's a proven coach. 470 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, some big moves going on right now, the big 471 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:28,119 tweve give us a little breakdown just just briefly, Ronnie, 472 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,519 this news broke earlier today. 473 00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:31,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely. Did you know there were rumors? 474 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,319 Speaker 9: Obviously, Jeff Goodman on the Field of sixty Yet said 475 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,680 there were rumors about that. Randy Bennett and Chris Cartman 476 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:41,079 of Era of the Sun Sun Devil source said, Okay, 477 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,799 Randy Bennett is you know, projected to their sources tell 478 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:46,680 them to be the next Arizona State head coach that 479 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,440 came up off early and you know, per On and 480 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,480 three not breaking, they're hiring him, you know. And Jeff 481 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:54,680 Goodman also confirmed that as well as Chris Cartman. And 482 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,200 then not just that, Ben, this is per Pete Nichols 483 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,000 and I had discussed this on the Morning show a 484 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 few weeks ago. I said, I don't know if Jered 485 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,400 Calhoun will stay with Utah State with what he's done. 486 00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:05,839 I was like, And when they fired Wes Miller, Ben 487 00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:08,240 he was the first name said he is a Cincinnati alum. 488 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,839 That is his alma modern and breaking per On three 489 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:14,039 to Pete Nicos, Cincinnati is set to hire Jered Calhoun 490 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:15,880 as his next head coach. That Utah State job is 491 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,519 a feeder program. If you go to Utah stepping stre 492 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:19,759 if you go to Utah State, you're going to be 493 00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:21,880 a head coach in a big, a premier conference. 494 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 10: How many coaches have we seen? 495 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 9: It doesn't matter if they've lasted Craig Smith, Now Jered 496 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,440 Calhoun is multiple. I can go through what is it, 497 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,920 Ryan odom of a VCU or Utah State VCU now Virginia. 498 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,519 So Ben, the Big twelve just got way tougher in 499 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:39,200 my opinion, because Randy Bennett and Jered Calhoun approven coaches, 500 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,359 They're going to bring their players to them to the 501 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,759 Big Twelve Conference. So those programs that were mid last 502 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:47,319 year at the bottom, they're not going to be that 503 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,640 way going in the next season, not with Randy Benn 504 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 and Jered Calhoun having more NIL money in the game 505 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:52,920 and to do that. 506 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,519 Speaker 10: So we'll see. 507 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 9: But those are my thoughts on the matter. To give 508 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,279 you update kind of Big Twelve Basketball update. The conference 509 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,880 is changing, getting tougher. 510 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:03,319 Speaker 3: No doubt about great talent and in the coaching staff 511 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,920 as well as the player personnel positions. Guys, Million Dollar 512 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,599 Bracket Challenge, we always love to do the million dollar 513 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,440 Bracket Challenge. 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ESPN Radio Network one 524 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 O three to nine ninety eight point three ESPN The Fan. 525 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: This is a one oh three nine ninety eight three 526 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,119 ESPN Sports Center updates. 527 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 11: We start on the diamond today, where after losing the 528 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,759 first two games of the series to twenty first ranked 529 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:58,519 Oklahoma State, YU softball jumped out to an early two 530 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,720 to nothing lead thanks to a Lily Owens home run 531 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:02,319 in the top of the first, and that point on 532 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,519 BYU never trailed on their way to a seven to 533 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,839 three win. Baseball didn't fair so well, as they ended 534 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,039 up being swept by West Virginia, where weather ended up 535 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200 playing a huge role in the series. Back on the court, BYU, 536 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920 men's volleyball swept Concordia Irvine over the weekend. His coach 537 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,039 Olmsted is down just one win away from tying the 538 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,400 all time record for most wins by a men's volleyball 539 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,519 coach in school history. As we stayed in the wind Callum, 540 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,799 we saw women's tennis extend their winning streak to four 541 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:25,839 matches with a four to three win over Texas Tech 542 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,359 on Saturday, and the men's and women's tracking field team 543 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,799 saw four first place finishes for the men and three 544 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,119 top ten times for the women at the Utah Tech 545 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,839 Invitational on Saturday down in Saint George. The only other 546 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160 event that took place last weekend was the BYU women's 547 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,680 gymnastics in the Big Twelve tournament, where they placed third 548 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119 on the New side of things. BYU gymnastics coach Guard 549 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,799 Young was named the Big Twelve Coach of the Year, 550 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:48,799 while Dill J. Taylor was named the USTFCCCA National Assistant 551 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Coach of the Year, but Jane Headinggren winning the award 552 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,279 for the Women's Runner of the Year for the indoor season. 553 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,799 To day's games feature the second round of the WBIT 554 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,680 where the number one overall seeded BYU women's basketball team 555 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,039 takes on fourth seeded Missouri. That game tips at seven 556 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,359 o'clock tonight on ESPN Plus and What'll We played in 557 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119 the Marriott Center also today, men's golf is currently competing 558 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,519 in the GCAA Bridgestone Collegiate Invitational. 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Call us 587 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,200 at eight zero one, four hundred and five through one 588 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,440 eight that's eight zer one, four hundred five through and 589 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,680 eight for an appointment, or go online and visit us 590 00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:43,440 at Orthropos of Utah. Dodd come all right. The March 591 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,839 Madness tournament has been phenomenal. Aj Steell projected to be 592 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,839 the number one pick depending where you're looking at Darren 593 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,880 Peterson as well, but DNP per Jamie Shaw over the 594 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960 last couple of games only averaging nineteen points. Think he's 595 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,759 shooting under forty percent, not doing well. Don't know if 596 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:02,200 that's due to hey got to play because of narrative, 597 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,440 because you haven't been playing it's March Madness, or you know. 598 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 10: Is he is he really is he really hurt. I 599 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,720 guess we're gonna find out. 600 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,039 Speaker 9: With the NBA combine coming up later, we'll find out 601 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,960 what's going on. But Darren Peterson no longer in the tournament, 602 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Agd Bondson long in the tournament. 603 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 10: Native min is with Tennessee. You got a bunch of 604 00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:21,480 other people as well. 605 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 9: Braden Burry's is still playing over there for Arizona Copete, 606 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:28,200 a lot of projected draft picks that are still going Kingston, 607 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Fleming and Houston are still going strong. 608 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 10: So we will see. 609 00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 9: I brought it up because you know, in the last 610 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,640 second at the end, I talked about the coaches that 611 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,079 are moving over now to Cincinnati and Arizona State. The 612 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,079 Big twelve is getting no easier, and you have to 613 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,359 wonder Bill self has struggled recently. He's really struggled with 614 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,400 this tournament play. I think the last four tournaments he's 615 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:55,440 gone out early. It just hasn't been what maybe that 616 00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:59,759 he expected. So it's tough. And then, like I said, 617 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,720 coaches coming from other conferences like the Utah State the 618 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,200 last four coaches, I just want to mention this, Craigsmith 619 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,400 three years he left for Utah and then he was 620 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,319 later fired. Ryan Odam who I mentioned two years left 621 00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:11,920 for VCU and A he's at Virginia. 622 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,319 Speaker 10: They just lost to Tendessee. 623 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 9: Danny Sprinkle one year, left for Washington, Jered Calhoun one 624 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,240 year and left for Cincinnati. Looks you go to Utah 625 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,319 State and you do well in that first year, you 626 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119 might only be there for one but hey, at the 627 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,920 end of the day, you're going to somehow end up 628 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,920 in a good coaching position. And the last four coaches 629 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,359 have done so. But that's what it's about. But anyway, 630 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,039 the point is Bill Self. You have to wonder if 631 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,920 is he on his way out? 632 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 10: Could he retire? If that's the case, he was in 633 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,480 the post game. 634 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,839 Speaker 9: We're gonna play this sound for you here momentarily as 635 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,039 I'm getting it pulled up right now, I don't know. 636 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,960 This is one of you know, people put him on 637 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,440 the Mount Rushmore coaches, and that's not why Probleet people 638 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920 believe Bill Self. They put him up there obviously with 639 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,359 you know, mis Kozhewky. They put him up there with 640 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,759 Tom Izzo. Is a bunch of other coaches, you know, 641 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,400 Dan Hurley and but Bill self really has made a 642 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,839 name for Kansas, built it, you know, honestly from the 643 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680 ground up and how he's done it. So what is 644 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:12,839 next for Bill's self? 645 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 5: You know, because the. 646 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,559 Speaker 10: Sleeping Giants BYU? Is he running out of stuff? I 647 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,319 mean he's got unlimited innio, He's got stuff. 648 00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:20,519 Speaker 5: You know. 649 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,079 Speaker 9: He got Darren Peterson and he's getting another projected picks. 650 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:25,359 You got Flori Badunga. He was able to get Trey White, 651 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,599 he was able to get Melvin Counsel junior. He's got 652 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,279 a good basketball team program. But is Bill self? Is 653 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,200 his time coming to a close in Kansas? Let's tune 654 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,160 in to what you have to say after Kansas lost 655 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,599 in a buzzer beater to Saint John's. 656 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,119 Speaker 10: Eric Patino gone through on and. 657 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,799 Speaker 3: Off the court, how much time will you take to 658 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:42,640 reflect upon what is next done? 659 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: Just on this stage of your career. 660 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 12: Well, I haven't really gone through much on the court, 661 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400 you know, I've gone through some stuff off the court. 662 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:55,079 So I'll get back and get with family and visit 663 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:56,720 and see what's going on. 664 00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:57,599 Speaker 10: I love what I do. 665 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 12: Uh, you know, I need to able to do it 666 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,839 where I'm feeling good and healthy to do it, you know, 667 00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:08,599 you know fairly well, So I'll get back home and 668 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:09,920 it'll all be discussed. 669 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,799 Speaker 10: Michael Swaying twenty four seven Sports. He talked a lot 670 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,720 about physicality going to this game. How do you feel 671 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,519 like your team matched up in that regard? 672 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,519 Speaker 1: I thought great. 673 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,279 Speaker 12: After the start of the game, I thought, I thought 674 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,359 the I thought the first five. 675 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: So there it is. 676 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 9: That's Darren Peterson right there. And just to give you 677 00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:33,960 the numbers, you know, round of sixty four versus CBU, 678 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,920 he had twenty eight points one rebound eleven to twenty 679 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,960 four from the field. He is four eleven from three. 680 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,559 And then the round of thirty two versus Saint John's 681 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,119 twenty one points four rebounds bob and fifteen three of 682 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,680 it from the field. Not a lot of assistance, man, 683 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,559 It does not pass the ball. He gets the ball 684 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,240 passed to him. So you have to wonder, you know. 685 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,920 And look. Stephen A. Smith was earlier this morning on 686 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680 first trick saying, this is not an investment that you 687 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,960 can trust. You know, it's a number one overall pick 688 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,640 following the loss. You know, you just don't know. But 689 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,279 Bill's self says he doesn't know. 690 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,519 Speaker 5: You know that. 691 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 9: He's like, I love what I do, but I'm not 692 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920 going to be able to do it where I'm I'm 693 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680 feeling good and healthy to do it, he said, I 694 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,079 need to be able to be there like we all. 695 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,079 Like with any job, with any coach, with any player, 696 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,480 the body has to be feeling or connected to BYU. 697 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,759 In a sense of Dawson Baker, a lot of people 698 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,799 want to see the bucket getter back in the by uniform. Well, 699 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,519 in order for that to happen, you know, kind of 700 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,079 the same thing. So obviously, Dawson Baker I believe loves basketball. 701 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:29,480 But you know, you have to be healthy, you have 702 00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,960 to get back from injury. But I think you know 703 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:34,519 the bucket getter number twenty five will be coming back. 704 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,880 But this princevilleill applies to every rule of life, whether 705 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000 it's sports, whether it's business, all of it comes to 706 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,599 a close. And now Bill self is debating. So could 707 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,200 you see Bill's self retire? He says, he'll get back home, 708 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,759 he'll address it of what's next for his career. And look, 709 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,200 everybody's career is coming, you know, to a close. I 710 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,359 think all good things come to an end. I don't 711 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:55,640 think Bill self is going to be retiring anytime soon, 712 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,039 but then again, you never know. You always have to 713 00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:00,480 keep your head on a swivel. Someone online I was 714 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,559 showing Ben this earlier this morning. It was funny. I 715 00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,799 think it was a Kansas State fan. They are like AI, 716 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,079 I guess Jerome Tank in a Kansas you know what 717 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,119 three quarters. That's not happening. I don't think that's happening. 718 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,519 I can understand why people think I'd be shocked if 719 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,720 it was. I don't think it's at coaching assistant. No, 720 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,559 I don't think that they would go that route at all, 721 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,400 not at all. But I don't believe Bill self is 722 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,279 going to retire at the end of this year and 723 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:25,880 not yet. I think he's got a lot left in 724 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920 the tank, especially like I mentioned earlier in the segment, 725 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,359 he can get the money to that Kansas you could 726 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,799 argue as a basketball school like they got the investment. 727 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,279 He's got the heart. And as long as you're getting 728 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,599 players like Darren Peterson and you're getting a narrative built 729 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,480 around and you're winning in the Big Twelve, and you're 730 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,920 beating schools like BYU, you're going at it, beating the 731 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Eyewa States, who's making a run. You're going toe to 732 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,519 toe with the Houston as long as you're competing and winning. 733 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,279 I don't think you're going to see Bill sever tarre, 734 00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:56,920 but I wanted to bring it up. How many years 735 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,759 does Bill self have over under three and a half. 736 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,480 I guess we'll find out. We'll see a lot of 737 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,799 these coaches are in their seventies that I mentioned earlier 738 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:05,839 in the show. You got Rick Patino who's seventy three, 739 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,559 Tom Izzo's seventy one, John kla PARTI sixty seven. Never know, 740 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,079 a lot of these coaches have a lot left in 741 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:12,480 the tanks. So we'll see what they do. Mix Ra 742 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,680 Chefsky said, I'm out. He said, I got how many 743 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,799 national championships? Yeah, I don't need to keep coaching. He's got seven. 744 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,400 But I mean when you coach for twenty five thirty years, 745 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,759 you should get there, you know. 746 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:23,079 Speaker 10: But one of the greatest. 747 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,079 Speaker 9: Anyway, that was a little college basketball segment. It was 748 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,119 brought to you by Orthropros of Utah Orthorprosofutah dot com. 749 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,240 If you've been dealing with an injury or muscular sculptor pain. 750 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,960 At Orthropos, we provide an array of orthopedic and sports 751 00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,599 medicine devices that can help aiden gets you back to 752 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480 the activities you enjoy. 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