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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about three Donald Trump related issues. One

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<v Speaker 2>is his order that Harvard no longer accept international students. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna end up in courts. It's already ended up

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<v Speaker 2>in quarts. There was an amended filing today, okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we have the new Trump Travel Band, and he

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<v Speaker 2>does on the travel band related to what happened in Boulder, Colorado. Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have you play cut number three, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>announcing the travel Band, Cut three, please, Rob, gonna have issues, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll hold that if we're having issues, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to that later on. In the meantime, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Dean and Randolph. And the other issue is the the

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<v Speaker 2>bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump. Seems to be over. Dean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're having issues. I hope we're not having issues with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go out ahead, Dean.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I know this is twice in one week, because

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<v Speaker 3>we did have a conversation on Tuesday, I think. But

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<v Speaker 3>then the pure and I I agree with you with

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<v Speaker 3>the travel band obviously because a lot of those countries, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like us, and we've been have problems and

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, I ran uh and some Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>In Afghanistan, you've got Somalia in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Right in a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of those people don't realize Libya Libya. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they forgot about the the marathon bombing. Those individuals went

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<v Speaker 3>to school here, they were going to school. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>and and this is where they were planning what happened

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<v Speaker 3>in Bula, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>In all of those cases, these people come here, they

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<v Speaker 2>take seats in our classrooms. They they in many cases

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<v Speaker 2>end up in Section eight housing. They get on food stamps.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all of these organizations who showed them how to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no organization for me, there was. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no organization I can walk down to and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can you help me out here or whatever? Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>are organizations that will meet these people where they live. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have food stamps? No? I don't have food.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get you some food stamps. Okay. What about

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<v Speaker 2>clothing vouchers? Do you have clothing? No? I don't you

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<v Speaker 2>have some clothes? That would be great? What about some TVs?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a new TV? No, we can get

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<v Speaker 2>you a new team. And it's like and the bombers,

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<v Speaker 2>the bombers. They went to school here, they lived here,

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<v Speaker 2>they were on first stamps, and they took everything from here.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only thing they did for us was killed

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<v Speaker 2>some people at the marathon and injury.

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<v Speaker 3>We supported est Mike. I hate to say the state

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<v Speaker 3>is opportunity. They come up here. I'm in that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know what I do for work, but

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<v Speaker 3>I see that every day they come up here. They

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<v Speaker 3>come over the border. Hey, we gotta get the Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 3>of New York because they give everything for free. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who are coming here are not stupid, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>the bad people who are not here. I'm not Stewart.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to go hang around in Alabama and Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 2>which are not favorably inclined. They're coming up north. They're

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<v Speaker 2>coming to Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>They go ninety five north AND's go to Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it is caught. And you just saw the news

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<v Speaker 3>this cast some Chinese socials with a fungus trying to

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<v Speaker 3>poison our crops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that was beautiful and that fungus which actually was.

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what I can tell you about that, because

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it very carefully tonight, and I've heard about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had this this fungus which if it ever got

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<v Speaker 2>into our crops were poisoned the crops, but also could

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<v Speaker 2>kill Americans if the if the was undetected in the crops.

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<v Speaker 2>This is serious. How would people want the companies, all

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<v Speaker 2>these Chinese companies that are buying land and vacant land

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<v Speaker 2>next to a military bases. I think, right, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of land spend spend the winter in North or South

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota and enjoy across country skiing. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>To go back to Harvard. What Trump's trying to do,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand he may be going to an extreme, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can see a different way that he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be protected because Jewish students have the right to be

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<v Speaker 3>safe on a campus, and it's obligation of these universities

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<v Speaker 3>to have that responsibility. I mean, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>hate hours. We just saw that in Colorado and a

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<v Speaker 3>just goes on and on. So I could see a

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<v Speaker 3>travel band, I can see a checking You have to

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<v Speaker 3>have that now because a lot of people dislike us,

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<v Speaker 3>but they want to come here to go to school.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to come here, Like you said, they love

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<v Speaker 3>the benefits. They love coming here to California, Austin, or

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<v Speaker 3>New York. They love it. I mean, where's it end?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it generally ends with a problem. And as

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<v Speaker 2>they say, there's a whole bunch of countries here. Who Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are a lot of good people in

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<v Speaker 2>those countries and a lot of suffering in those countries.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I don't know that I want people from

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<v Speaker 2>Iran right now coming to the United in America. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reason is that the only people who are led

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<v Speaker 2>out of Iran are going to be people that the

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<v Speaker 2>government will allow to get out of Iran. Iran is

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<v Speaker 2>not an inchy place to get out of, Okay, It's

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by a mountainous terrain. Same way with Libya. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that that, you know, let's let's just comment

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<v Speaker 2>down for six months, let's see what happens. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the travel being, I'm fine on the being

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<v Speaker 2>on students. I don't think that's his role. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a role of the CIA and the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>and local law enforcement. I think we need to be

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive on that. Our friends on the on the left,

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<v Speaker 2>they want to tie the hands of law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and which I don't understand. Well, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they did, like Mayor what was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the mask on the ice. Well, they're trying to hunt

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<v Speaker 3>these people down and find where they live in their families.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're showing a security issue of safety of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>They're being docked just like it's secret police. Like she's

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<v Speaker 3>calling them secret police, like you're back in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 3>and Nazi Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the language that Leo Foley called her out on,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has every right to call because to it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's a good call. It's like the people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very impressed by the US attorney, the new US attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>Leofole and this whole again the language that the left uses. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when when Trump was running, it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. You know, there's things

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's going to do that I'm going to disagree with.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, of course we are, I mean sides.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and I've already I've criticized the arrest of

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<v Speaker 2>the tough student. Good, but I want to see cooperation

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<v Speaker 2>from local police departments. Who have information as to who's

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground to increase the chances of one getting

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<v Speaker 2>the bad guys and bad women out of the country quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not really interested in giving them the same

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<v Speaker 2>level of due process that American citizens have.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not, okay, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple as that. And I know that there's already lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>working to keep this guy's family in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of sympathy for I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have sympathy for them, the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because they it's unfortunate, and but you know, guess

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<v Speaker 2>what if I'd love to give them a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a little bit of due process, but with them,

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<v Speaker 2>due process is going to go a long way. A

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of due process will go a long way before, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But with a lot of evil. And then people are

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<v Speaker 3>just I don't have the tolerance for due process. You

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<v Speaker 3>hate us that much, you have no business being Eisier

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<v Speaker 3>here anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I hear you. I totally hear you. People

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<v Speaker 2>around keep calling the show. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks, thank you very much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a very quick break. George and Fitzburg is next,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian and Peabty, Tom and Dorchester and I get room

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Here's what you gotta do. Six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four to ten thirty. That line just filled. Six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Back on night Side after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones. Were go going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>George and Fitchburgh. George, second time up tonight, go right ahead, George.

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<v Speaker 5>S Hi, Yeah, I'm enjoying the warm mother.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's don't worry which We'll be back next to Sember.

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<v Speaker 5>The conversation is very uh show. It's a steady and studied.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I appreciate both those those observations. What's your

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<v Speaker 2>take on all of this, George, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it's most unfair of the president to be actually

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<v Speaker 5>to use another word that they use in Ganglan, extorting

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<v Speaker 5>people to behave the way they want, even though it's

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<v Speaker 5>contrary to what we establish as constitutional and Bill of

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<v Speaker 5>Wright's issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's I think he's over the top

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<v Speaker 2>here out over his skeys, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I tend to agree with you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that he's wasting a lot of capital. I've read

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<v Speaker 2>the correspondence between the White House and Harvard, and Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a pretty conciliatory letter. And by way of background,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the attorneys is Robert Hurr, who's a for Harvard,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a pretty conservative Republican. He actually was the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who to put was Joe Biden. In October twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>wrote and wrote the report that said that Biden was

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble and didn't seem to understand exactly what he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about. So, yeah, I think sometimes you got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a victory and uh and accept a victory

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to continuing just to hammer hammer with a sledgehammer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I really don't understand it. If

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<v Speaker 2>he had said, well, you know, Dan, if he had said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be in all these students coming in

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<v Speaker 2>from from communists China because we just found out that

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<v Speaker 2>someone was trying to bring in this, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a problem. The excit from Afghanistan was was

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<v Speaker 5>not control and it led to the death of a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of American soldier women and men at that point

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<v Speaker 5>us by a bomb throwne and by the Taliban. And

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<v Speaker 5>now the Taliban had all the rights to Shall we

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<v Speaker 5>say all the women are back to nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? How does that? How does that all, George? How

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<v Speaker 2>does that relate to what we're talking about tonight? How

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<v Speaker 2>does that relate to Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I know, well, let's just go back on him.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes back on Donald Trump. I see. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 2>was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the decisions that

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<v Speaker 2>Biden administration. That was in August of twenty three, as

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<v Speaker 5>Other than that, the president is very, very vengeful and

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<v Speaker 5>anybody who opposes him.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I think I think I tend to agree

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<v Speaker 2>with him that, George, I got a role here. We

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<v Speaker 6>Have a nice feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk again. We'll talk again. Let me go next to

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Dan, I haven't talked to you a while. Listening

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<v Speaker 7>by Luie uh to bring up with a clement sense

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<v Speaker 7>putting this way. You can't have Harvard Ununiversity not be diverse.

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<v Speaker 7>But at the same time, anybody who's going to be

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<v Speaker 7>and announced I've never done I've never told any It

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know if that analysis holds up legally,

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<v Speaker 7>But back to Harvard, which is the main focus here.

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<v Speaker 7>Harbor's Harvard will get through this. And Donald, as you say,

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<v Speaker 7>Miss President Trump, I may not agree with him, but

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<v Speaker 7>if you have opposing views and you need to set

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<v Speaker 7>the message across I don't want to destroy the entity

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<v Speaker 7>for an American institution. So at some point you that

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<v Speaker 7>the people around him can say, well, we're the top

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<v Speaker 7>what you're doing and there might be a better avenue

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<v Speaker 2>Got fair enough, fair enough, And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>his place. They can't have it, Yeah, but what do

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's why all this energy needs to be refocused

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<v Speaker 7>to some other things that need to pay more attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one of the things that that George Bush

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<v Speaker 2>chain of command of the FBI that maybe nine to

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<v Speaker 7>Now one last point to Massachusetts. I really think that

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think that our state officials are not

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty seventeen called the lun decision, which to me

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<v Speaker 2>we get to the eighteen year old kid at some

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<v Speaker 2>point and you give them a hearing and you find

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<v Speaker 2>out what his goals are. Right now, let's focus on

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<v Speaker 2>the bad people. Let's get the bad people out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's expedite that process. Okay, you give them an

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<v Speaker 2>immigration hearing maybe, or you give him a quick hearing

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<v Speaker 2>in federal court. Uh, but you you're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>Nope, don't get those.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too much. Yeah. Absolutely, we're in the same page. Christian,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Calling really do very night.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, and I'm still listening.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Please keep listening and keep calling. I need your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you have a great name. Go take quick break here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming up on that. We just hit ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I believe you. We're coming

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<v Speaker 2>rolling here. Stay with us, all points of view, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones we go. We're gonna go next.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom is in Dorchester, Tom, next, do on nice saga.

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<v Speaker 3>Right ahead, Dan, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing warm enough for you tonight over there at Dorchester.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Dahn. With all due respect to you, Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>We have the most brilliant human being in the world

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<v Speaker 3>as president of the United States. Now, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the bromance you were talking about. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>is so brilliant. He took he took talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About are we talking about Trump or Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talking this to the bromance. I thought, you want

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<v Speaker 2>But you're telling me this guy's brilliant and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the bromance. I went on the which side

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<v Speaker 2>of the bromance you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm talking about the whole situation. What Trump did?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me explain what Trump did. He took he took

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<v Speaker 3>Elon into the back room and he said to Elon,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if the Democrats were in power, did blow

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<v Speaker 3>the deficit right out of control? And he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. And he said, Eon, how do you

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<v Speaker 3>like having your cats burnt? And he said no, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you like being called the Nazi? And he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's terrible, he said. He said, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do. You're gonna go out and say this

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<v Speaker 3>this thing is, this new budget is an abomination and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't agree with it at all. And the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>who are the stupidest party in the day, I alwash,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be declassified as a party. It's a communist party.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fastiest party.

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<v Speaker 2>Of tom You know, again, always welcome to express your opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna I'm going to dispute you when it

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<v Speaker 2>gets beyond opinion and you make a statement like that,

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<v Speaker 2>But go ahead, So he tells me, he tells Elon

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<v Speaker 2>going out there and say this is a disgusting abomination.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it, so far, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Bruce comes back and he says he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with Trump at all, and he's mad at Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was watching the Democrats tonight. Oh, we'll gladly

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<v Speaker 3>take him back into the boat after they called him

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<v Speaker 3>a Nazi for the passion four or five months.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so give me the strategy, tom, I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of my chair here as.

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<v Speaker 4>To the.

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats. Will will stop burning his kas and he'll stop

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<v Speaker 3>causing call him a nasty if he disagrees with Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Oh, I got it. Okay, So I just

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<v Speaker 2>got one question, right, got one question?

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<v Speaker 2>I follow you. I understand the strategy now that you've

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<v Speaker 2>explained it to me. Why then if it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, these two guys working in the back

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<v Speaker 2>room together and you know, Swung telling the other guy

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<v Speaker 2>what to say and how to say it. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 2>Musk tonight, release the statements that says the reason that

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<v Speaker 2>the Epstein suicide. Information is not being released is because

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was involved with Epstein on you know some of

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<v Speaker 2>that whatever they call those Lolita I expressed planes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if if this was like discuss between them, why would

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<v Speaker 2>Elon say something? You know, that's pretty harmful. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>true that.

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<v Speaker 3>The brilliant Donald Trump will throw that out there, he'll say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'd say that, and the Democrats will love you.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they released me the papers, they might find

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<v Speaker 3>out he visited the island and with all the other

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<v Speaker 3>celebrities and politicians and he said, this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>just craziness going on here. He threw him out of

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<v Speaker 3>his he was down in Marilago. He threw him out

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<v Speaker 3>because he's he was getting cozy to one of the

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<v Speaker 4>He threw him out.

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<v Speaker 6>So, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, if he's that brilliant, I don't know why he

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<v Speaker 2>we'll save that for another night.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he wanted I don't think he wants

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<v Speaker 3>that all. They're going to find out he didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to know that shaken in either Donald President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump or in Elon Musk and I appreciate your analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much. Yeah, you very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Have a great night. Okay, all right, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. We're just getting all sorts of analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Joe and Lyn. Joe, you're next

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<v Speaker 2>on nice sego right ahead, Joe.

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<v Speaker 8>Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I have

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<v Speaker 8>mixed feelings. I understand how Harvey feels. He went to Harvard,

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<v Speaker 8>but Harvard shouldn't even be allowing that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, And he went to Harvard Law School, but

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<v Speaker 2>he went to Princeville.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Harvard Law School.

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<v Speaker 8>They shouldn't even be doing that to the Jewish students.

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<v Speaker 8>And I am for the travel band especially. I'm forgetting

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<v Speaker 8>taking our land back from the Chinese at around military basis.

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<v Speaker 8>These people shouldn't be doing this. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 8>like this country, I agree with you on some things.

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<v Speaker 8>No hearing just gets them out of this country.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to be careful.

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<v Speaker 8>But too many people are doing this. And I'm sort

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<v Speaker 8>of a little bit of an isolationist. Like my friend

424
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<v Speaker 8>in Brighton, this is going too far. Look at these

425
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<v Speaker 8>kids that brought this stuff in. They would have ruined

426
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<v Speaker 8>our crops. They need to be deported.

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<v Speaker 2>That if if that stuff had gotten into the crops

428
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<v Speaker 2>and we were not and we didn't burn the crops, uh,

429
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<v Speaker 2>and that got into the food chain, you'd have some

430
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<v Speaker 2>dead Americans. That's pretty nasty stuff. And that's why if

431
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<v Speaker 2>he's in.

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<v Speaker 8>You know that those Chinese are sneaky people, Well, we can't.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Trust I think the leadership of the CCP is sneaky. Okay,

434
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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to label one point four billion people

435
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the colored part.

436
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<v Speaker 8>We needed to get them out of here, I think,

437
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<v Speaker 8>and go straight in this country out. But I have

438
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<v Speaker 8>mixed feelings in Hart Harvard shouldn't be doing that, and

439
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<v Speaker 8>I can see why Trump wants to stop their funding

440
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<v Speaker 8>until he gets all of this out and make sure

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<v Speaker 8>that they promise this will never happen again. It's supposed

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<v Speaker 8>to be an Ivy League school in these schools, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize, but it is an Ivy League school.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it is. Isn't it is Harvard?

445
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<v Speaker 4>It is?

446
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is?

447
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I

448
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<v Speaker 2>would have forgotten that. Joe. I appreciate that, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>That okay, thank you very much, much very much.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of good information here in case you

451
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<v Speaker 2>missed it, Dorian and Chelsea. Dorian, you're next on nightside. Dorian,

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, Hi Dan, Hi Doreen.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you about the there goes my fruit

454
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<v Speaker 4>and vegetables that I depend on. That's terrible when I

455
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<v Speaker 4>heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hopefully your fruit and vegetables are going to

457
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<v Speaker 2>be okay.

458
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<v Speaker 4>I hope. So you know why I don't trust no

459
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<v Speaker 4>one anymore. You know, I'm going to say this, dear,

460
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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned this. This started way before. At nine to eleven,

461
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<v Speaker 4>I went by the hotel those those animals stayed at,

462
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<v Speaker 4>and I was shocked. In Maine, they stayed in Maine

463
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<v Speaker 4>when they bombed all those buildings.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I well some of them still, some of them

465
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<v Speaker 2>stayed up in Maine and some of them stayed, believe

466
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<v Speaker 2>it or not, at what used to be the it

467
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<v Speaker 2>was then. I think it became a day's in on

468
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<v Speaker 2>Soldier's Field Road right next to well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I know the ones that I went by

470
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<v Speaker 4>the sleazy hotel in Maine where they stayed. I was modified.

471
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<v Speaker 4>I thought they stayed in the high class in Port

472
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<v Speaker 4>when they didn't. I went by that hotel. It was

473
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<v Speaker 4>a shack. Yeah, all right, because my sister lives in

474
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<v Speaker 4>Maine with her husband, and I'm going to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get into a nine to eleven

476
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<v Speaker 4>because it's all dying and over with.

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<v Speaker 6>But they'll never.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Forget what they did to our people, you get it.

479
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<v Speaker 4>I am disgusted with the government. You don't know who

480
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<v Speaker 4>to trust, who to talk to. I'm sorry, Dan, I'm

481
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<v Speaker 4>going Austere radio. I'm sorry. My stomach is in notts

482
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<v Speaker 4>over this whole situation.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Let me try to calm you down a little bit,

484
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<v Speaker 2>Doreen for a second here. I don't want you to

485
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<v Speaker 2>stoch so no. Yeah, we're talking tonight about Donald Trump

486
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<v Speaker 2>trying to prevent Harvard from accepting foreign students.

487
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<v Speaker 4>I agree, no exchange students, Okay, I made the car.

488
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<v Speaker 4>No more exchanged students in this country. These are the

489
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<v Speaker 4>ones that going back stating the troublem. I'm sorry, okay.

490
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<v Speaker 4>Why am I taking it out on the Jews? Why

491
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<v Speaker 4>are they taking it on the Jewish people?

492
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, unfortunately, there's there's a very sad history

493
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<v Speaker 2>of anti Semitism around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I know, I know, Dan has to be stopped,

495
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<v Speaker 4>no question, I know. Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're okay with the travel band that the president.

497
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<v Speaker 4>Wants to Oh yes, oh, yes, yes you do have.

498
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<v Speaker 2>It sounds to me like sounds to be like you

499
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<v Speaker 2>have some faith in Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Is what I'm here, and you say, well, this, this shouldn't.

501
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 3>This should have been done.

502
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 4>Way before Donald Trump was president.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't change that now though, Doreen, Right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we can't. No, we can't.

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<v Speaker 4>The damage is done, Dan, The damage is done a

506
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<v Speaker 4>long time ago.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Well has been done. The question is how do you

508
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<v Speaker 2>prevent further damage from occurring? That's I think what I should.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I had a.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Pearl Harbor was a harbor.

511
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I know about Pearl I'm yes, I don't, but.

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<v Speaker 2>But that I don't think we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>repeat of Pearl Harbor. But there are other other targets

514
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>in this country that we need to harden. Uh. There

515
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>are nuclear power plants that could be hit. There are

516
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>there are there are you know, electrical facilities, there are oils.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we have to think we have to be smarter

519
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<v Speaker 2>than the bad guys, Doreen, And we can. That's what

520
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<v Speaker 2>happened in the past, but I think as a society

521
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<v Speaker 2>we have to prevent and think about what could happen

522
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<v Speaker 2>in the future. That's I just don't want you to

523
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>get discouraged, that's all. And I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 2>an u stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Dan, you're absolutely right, you are correct.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, will you my history, keep calling the show

527
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<v Speaker 2>and keep listening to the radio, and I'm always here

528
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<v Speaker 2>to talk. I will, I will have a great night.

529
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<v Speaker 2>All right, good night, Go take quick break. Now, all

530
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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, we've got a couple open lines, so

531
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<v Speaker 2>let's jump on board six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I got who's up next? Oh, I got Liz in

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<v Speaker 2>East Boston. I got Will in Long Island. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call, I might be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>you in before eleven, and if not, we'll carry over

537
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<v Speaker 2>into eleven. I think this is an important conversation, and

538
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<v Speaker 2>I think we got to get President Trump to focus

539
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on what's important. And I don't think his focus and

540
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>his attention on Harvard is particularly helpful. Now I'm much

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<v Speaker 2>more supportive of his travel Band, although I will admit

542
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<v Speaker 2>the travel Band may in the short term prevent some

543
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<v Speaker 2>people coming to this country who should be welcomed here.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everyone in Libya is a bad person. Not everyone

545
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<v Speaker 2>in Iran is a bad person. But those countries they

546
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<v Speaker 2>know who the people are in their countries, who they

547
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>will allow to travel internationally. And I want nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with anyone that Iran will let come towards us.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on Nightside after this, You're.

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<v Speaker 1>On Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get rolling. You're going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Liz and East Boston. Hey, Liz, welcome back. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm fine, Thank you. I want to say that I

555
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 9>agree with the Travel Band. I'm free with Harvard not

556
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 9>accepting international students anymore. I mean, just think about it,

557
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 9>like your kid works really hard, he's an American and

558
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 9>his seat at Harvard goes to someone that's not from

559
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<v Speaker 9>this country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a factor. I understand the concern about that. Yes

561
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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, didn't didn't do a lot?

563
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<v Speaker 7>You go to Harvard?

564
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<v Speaker 4>Did what in lot? No?

565
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<v Speaker 3>Salman on you shure.

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<v Speaker 2>No, did not go to Harvard. I'm sure if he

567
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<v Speaker 2>had gone to Harvard, he had family members in the

568
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Boston area who were flown out of this country the

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<v Speaker 2>day after the bombings, when when no Americans were getting

570
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<v Speaker 2>access to airplanes, which is again a very curious aspect

571
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>of the whole interesting. Yeah, yeah, so I'm very much

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00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>aware of that, to be honest with you, And uh.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's I'd just like to say something about that

574
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<v Speaker 10>that kid that was you know, arrested by ice and etcetera.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he's been here for ten years.

576
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<v Speaker 10>His parents have been here illegally for ten years. They

577
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<v Speaker 10>still don't speak English. I mean, what's this boy's plan?

578
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<v Speaker 10>Is he going to continue to live here illegally or

579
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<v Speaker 10>does he have a plan to become United States? I mean,

580
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<v Speaker 10>my understanding, grandparents did it, My great grandparents did it,

581
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<v Speaker 10>and it was hard but not easy.

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<v Speaker 9>But there's a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my understanding. I try to answer your question. My

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<v Speaker 2>understanding is that he made bail tonight. He was given

585
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was two thousand dollars bond, which was

586
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>up two hundred dollars in cash. H and his lawyers

587
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 2>say that they he's going to request asylum. I think

588
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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting that the father was on television. I don't

589
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>think he's turned himself in yet. I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>the person that the the ICE agents were looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how this plays out. It should be fun.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the dash driving around like the maniac one hundred

593
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<v Speaker 9>miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were some reports of that. And and again

595
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<v Speaker 2>the father came here a long time, came here a

596
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>long time ago. He's still illegal. H And but again

597
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a mistake to pick up. The

598
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<v Speaker 2>amount of publicity that that that ICE has or has

599
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>been devoted to the eighteen year old kid far out

600
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<v Speaker 2>weighs the good that ICE did in picking up some

601
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<v Speaker 2>bad people fourteen and sixty one bad people.

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<v Speaker 7>That's well, that's a liberal media.

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<v Speaker 9>They just want to you know, they take this one

604
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<v Speaker 9>case and they blow it up instead of talking about

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<v Speaker 9>all the murderers and rapists and women beaters.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that he's wrong with this kid, I mean,

607
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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 9>But you know what you hear, illegally make a plan you.

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<v Speaker 10>Want to live here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well I think that he now is going to

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<v Speaker 2>file for SA for asylum. I don't know where he's from,

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To that from Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, that's your correct. I should have known that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And again I don't know coming from Brazil, if he

616
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<v Speaker 2>would qualify for asylum. It's not as if you could

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<v Speaker 2>just say give me asylum and all of a sudden

618
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<v Speaker 2>that makes you a citizen. So, Liz.

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<v Speaker 9>And another thing is, you know he's on that volleyball team.

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<v Speaker 9>What if my son missed on the volleyball he was

621
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<v Speaker 9>the one who are illegal aliens. It's another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 10>They kid a triumph for sports and they don't make

624
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<v Speaker 10>it and someone like him makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? All right, thank you, Liz, appreciate your call.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep calling the program. Let me go to Will down

627
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<v Speaker 2>in Long Island.

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<v Speaker 4>Will.

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<v Speaker 2>We're up against it a little bit, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have you hang it through the news. Go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, Will.

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<v Speaker 6>Well then you know, I know you had some sellar

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<v Speaker 6>like you said, sellar analysis before the break there for

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<v Speaker 6>a second. But we can have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>analysis here. See. I think the key to what Trump

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<v Speaker 6>is doing and a lot of these aspects, okay, but

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<v Speaker 6>mostly with immigration. This is his Andrew Jackson moment. The

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<v Speaker 6>civil war that's being fought in this country right now

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<v Speaker 6>is between the branches of government, separate but equal branches.

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<v Speaker 6>And one branch in particular as well overstepped its bounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Really since Marbray versus Madison, the whole idea of judicial review,

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<v Speaker 6>that whole illusion, okay, is really dependent on the president's

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<v Speaker 6>willingness to oblige a court order. Some of these lower

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<v Speaker 6>courts and what they're doing. He just needs to outright

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<v Speaker 6>defy them, and he can certainly do that if Home

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<v Speaker 6>is on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, certainly, Well, at that point you're buying another impeachment

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<v Speaker 2>for seeding and maybe.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, but that's maybe, okay, hold on, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>In that regard, you also get an impeachment removal.

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<v Speaker 6>Right maybe. And that's exactly what separate but equal meant,

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<v Speaker 6>because the whole idea of this judicial review, that the

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<v Speaker 6>Supreme Court and any court actually is the end all

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<v Speaker 6>be all of the interpretation of the Constitution is not true.

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<v Speaker 6>It's exactly why Corey Booker, in something we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 6>about yet and I've been meaning to talk to about,

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<v Speaker 6>introduced legislation last week to turn the control of the

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<v Speaker 6>marshal over the judicial branch. And then they and the

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<v Speaker 6>media tried the coin of phrase it in a way

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<v Speaker 6>that it's for the protection of the justices.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a way for you to grant powers again to

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<v Speaker 6>the judicial branch which were not intended by our founding fathers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>the real separate, but the real separate but equal way

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<v Speaker 6>to do that is they have their opinion. The executive

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<v Speaker 6>branch can enforce or decide not to enforce, like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like remember Marshall made his order, now let's see him

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<v Speaker 6>enforce it. And then our legislative branch has the option

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<v Speaker 6>to impeach and remove, which will not happen under certain circumstances,

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<v Speaker 6>especially with these lower courts, because we have a Republican

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<v Speaker 6>Congress right now, right, so I doubt he's going to

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<v Speaker 6>get removed for that. More importantly, it made Soda Mayor

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<v Speaker 6>say something last week or two weeks ago that was

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<v Speaker 6>very important.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this, uh, this breach is.

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<v Speaker 6>For precedents, okay, which is going to wind up bring

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<v Speaker 6>into the Supreme Court. Not I'll gladly take the loss

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<v Speaker 6>in the lower court to bring to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 6>This ability for some judge in California to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>make a ruling that you know, sweeps across the entire

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<v Speaker 6>nation and affects the entire nation. Okay, that should not

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<v Speaker 6>be the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that issue is going to get to the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 2>and which is more this June. But I can't see

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<v Speaker 2>it not getting next to it next October or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if it's really critical, sometime this summer. Normally the

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<v Speaker 2>court leaves in the end of June, doesn't go back

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<v Speaker 2>to October first. You know, they're off July or August,

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<v Speaker 2>in September. This might be a different summer for the

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<v Speaker 2>US Supreme Court, is what you're saying. And I disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with you, right.

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<v Speaker 6>And if Trump is gonna die on a hill, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, first off, you could only have this term supposedly, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I always said stupid things, but we know how that is, right.

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<v Speaker 6>So if there's a hill to die on, this is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Because this is going to bring back the power to

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<v Speaker 6>the executive branch that it is supposed to have. Okay, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Will Will Will Will. I'm up to the against

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<v Speaker 2>the eleventh. I'll hold you over for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>minutes if you want on the other side of the eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, but I want a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've made your point. I want a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>between you and me after eleven. Fair enough, Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back right after the eleven if there are lines open.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the numbers. Let's keep it going.