Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about three Donald Trump related issues. One
Speaker 2: is his order that Harvard no longer accept international students. Now,
Speaker 2: that's gonna end up in courts. It's already ended up
Speaker 2: in quarts. There was an amended filing today, okay. And
Speaker 2: then we have the new Trump Travel Band, and he
Speaker 2: does on the travel band related to what happened in Boulder, Colorado. Rob,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you play cut number three, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: announcing the travel Band, Cut three, please, Rob, gonna have issues, Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll hold that if we're having issues, and we'll get
Speaker 2: to that later on. In the meantime, let's go to
Speaker 2: Dean and Randolph. And the other issue is the the
Speaker 2: bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump. Seems to be over. Dean,
Speaker 2: we're having issues. I hope we're not having issues with you.
Speaker 2: Go out ahead, Dean.
Speaker 3: Well, I know this is twice in one week, because
Speaker 3: we did have a conversation on Tuesday, I think. But
Speaker 3: then the pure and I I agree with you with
Speaker 3: the travel band obviously because a lot of those countries, uh,
Speaker 3: I don't like us, and we've been have problems and
Speaker 3: like you said, I ran uh and some Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: In Afghanistan, you've got Somalia in there.
Speaker 4: Right in a lot.
Speaker 3: And a lot of those people don't realize Libya Libya. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they forgot about the the marathon bombing. Those individuals went
Speaker 3: to school here, they were going to school. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: and and this is where they were planning what happened
Speaker 3: in Bula, Colorado.
Speaker 2: In all of those cases, these people come here, they
Speaker 2: take seats in our classrooms. They they in many cases
Speaker 2: end up in Section eight housing. They get on food stamps.
Speaker 2: There's all of these organizations who showed them how to.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no organization for me, there was. There's
Speaker 2: no organization I can walk down to and say, hey,
Speaker 2: can you help me out here or whatever? Yeah, there
Speaker 2: are organizations that will meet these people where they live. Uh,
Speaker 2: do you have food stamps? No? I don't have food.
Speaker 2: Let me get you some food stamps. Okay. What about
Speaker 2: clothing vouchers? Do you have clothing? No? I don't you
Speaker 2: have some clothes? That would be great? What about some TVs?
Speaker 2: Do you have a new TV? No, we can get
Speaker 2: you a new team. And it's like and the bombers,
Speaker 2: the bombers. They went to school here, they lived here,
Speaker 2: they were on first stamps, and they took everything from here.
Speaker 2: And the only thing they did for us was killed
Speaker 2: some people at the marathon and injury.
Speaker 3: We supported est Mike. I hate to say the state
Speaker 3: is opportunity. They come up here. I'm in that, you know,
Speaker 3: I think you know what I do for work, but
Speaker 3: I see that every day they come up here. They
Speaker 3: come over the border. Hey, we gotta get the Massachusetts
Speaker 3: of New York because they give everything for free. Well,
Speaker 3: it's great.
Speaker 2: The people who are coming here are not stupid, particularly
Speaker 2: the bad people who are not here. I'm not Stewart.
Speaker 2: They're going to go hang around in Alabama and Mississippi,
Speaker 2: which are not favorably inclined. They're coming up north. They're
Speaker 2: coming to Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: They go ninety five north AND's go to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 3: Then it is caught. And you just saw the news
Speaker 3: this cast some Chinese socials with a fungus trying to
Speaker 3: poison our crops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was beautiful and that fungus which actually was.
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you what I can tell you about that, because
Speaker 2: I watched it very carefully tonight, and I've heard about it.
Speaker 2: They had this this fungus which if it ever got
Speaker 2: into our crops were poisoned the crops, but also could
Speaker 2: kill Americans if the if the was undetected in the crops.
Speaker 2: This is serious. How would people want the companies, all
Speaker 2: these Chinese companies that are buying land and vacant land
Speaker 2: next to a military bases. I think, right, a lot
Speaker 2: of land spend spend the winter in North or South
Speaker 2: Dakota and enjoy across country skiing. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: To go back to Harvard. What Trump's trying to do,
Speaker 3: I understand he may be going to an extreme, but
Speaker 3: I can see a different way that he's trying to
Speaker 3: be protected because Jewish students have the right to be
Speaker 3: safe on a campus, and it's obligation of these universities
Speaker 3: to have that responsibility. I mean, it's a lot of
Speaker 3: hate hours. We just saw that in Colorado and a
Speaker 3: couple of two weeks ago they were killed, and it
Speaker 3: just goes on and on. So I could see a
Speaker 3: travel band, I can see a checking You have to
Speaker 3: have that now because a lot of people dislike us,
Speaker 3: but they want to come here to go to school.
Speaker 3: They want to come here, Like you said, they love
Speaker 3: the benefits. They love coming here to California, Austin, or
Speaker 3: New York. They love it. I mean, where's it end?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it generally ends with a problem. And as
Speaker 2: they say, there's a whole bunch of countries here. Who Again,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a lot of good people in
Speaker 2: those countries and a lot of suffering in those countries.
Speaker 2: But but I don't know that I want people from
Speaker 2: Iran right now coming to the United in America. And
Speaker 2: the reason is that the only people who are led
Speaker 2: out of Iran are going to be people that the
Speaker 2: government will allow to get out of Iran. Iran is
Speaker 2: not an inchy place to get out of, Okay, It's
Speaker 2: surrounded by a mountainous terrain. Same way with Libya. I
Speaker 2: just think that that, you know, let's let's just comment
Speaker 2: down for six months, let's see what happens. Okay. So
Speaker 2: I'm on the travel being, I'm fine on the being
Speaker 2: on students. I don't think that's his role. I do
Speaker 2: think there's a role of the CIA and the FBI
Speaker 2: and local law enforcement. I think we need to be
Speaker 2: more aggressive on that. Our friends on the on the left,
Speaker 2: they want to tie the hands of law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Uh and which I don't understand. Well, I mean yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they did, like Mayor what was talking about
Speaker 3: the mask on the ice. Well, they're trying to hunt
Speaker 3: these people down and find where they live in their families.
Speaker 3: So they're showing a security issue of safety of these people.
Speaker 3: They're being docked just like it's secret police. Like she's
Speaker 3: calling them secret police, like you're back in nineteen thirty
Speaker 3: and Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2: Well that's the language that Leo Foley called her out on,
Speaker 2: and she has every right to call because to it's
Speaker 2: it's like it's a good call. It's like the people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm very impressed by the US attorney, the new US attorney,
Speaker 2: Leofole and this whole again the language that the left uses. Remember,
Speaker 2: you know, when when Trump was running, it was going
Speaker 2: to be Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. You know, there's things
Speaker 2: Trump's going to do that I'm going to disagree with.
Speaker 3: But uh, of course we are, I mean sides.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I've already I've criticized the arrest of
Speaker 2: the tough student. Good, but I want to see cooperation
Speaker 2: from local police departments. Who have information as to who's
Speaker 2: in the ground to increase the chances of one getting
Speaker 2: the bad guys and bad women out of the country quickly.
Speaker 2: And I'm not really interested in giving them the same
Speaker 2: level of due process that American citizens have.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not, okay, I agree.
Speaker 2: Simple as that. And I know that there's already lawyers
Speaker 2: working to keep this guy's family in the country.
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of sympathy for I don't
Speaker 3: have sympathy for them, the family.
Speaker 2: Okay, because they it's unfortunate, and but you know, guess
Speaker 2: what if I'd love to give them a little bit
Speaker 2: of a little bit of due process, but with them,
Speaker 2: due process is going to go a long way. A
Speaker 2: little bit of due process will go a long way before, right.
Speaker 3: But with a lot of evil. And then people are
Speaker 3: just I don't have the tolerance for due process. You
Speaker 3: hate us that much, you have no business being Eisier
Speaker 3: here anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. I totally hear you. People
Speaker 2: around keep calling the show. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, thank you very much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Take a very quick break. George and Fitzburg is next,
Speaker 2: Christian and Peabty, Tom and Dorchester and I get room
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Speaker 1: This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones. Were go going to go to
Speaker 2: George and Fitchburgh. George, second time up tonight, go right ahead, George.
Speaker 5: S Hi, Yeah, I'm enjoying the warm mother.
Speaker 2: No, it's don't worry which We'll be back next to Sember.
Speaker 5: The conversation is very uh show. It's a steady and studied.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate.
Speaker 2: I think I appreciate both those those observations. What's your
Speaker 2: take on all of this, George, I.
Speaker 5: Think it's most unfair of the president to be actually
Speaker 5: to use another word that they use in Ganglan, extorting
Speaker 5: people to behave the way they want, even though it's
Speaker 5: contrary to what we establish as constitutional and Bill of
Speaker 5: Wright's issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's I think he's over the top
Speaker 2: here out over his skeys, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: I think I tend to agree with you, and I
Speaker 2: think that he's wasting a lot of capital. I've read
Speaker 2: the correspondence between the White House and Harvard, and Harvard
Speaker 2: wrote a pretty conciliatory letter. And by way of background,
Speaker 2: one of the attorneys is Robert Hurr, who's a for Harvard,
Speaker 2: who's a pretty conservative Republican. He actually was the guy
Speaker 2: who to put was Joe Biden. In October twenty three,
Speaker 2: wrote and wrote the report that said that Biden was
Speaker 2: in trouble and didn't seem to understand exactly what he
Speaker 2: was talking about. So, yeah, I think sometimes you got
Speaker 2: to take a victory and uh and accept a victory
Speaker 2: as opposed to continuing just to hammer hammer with a sledgehammer.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I really don't understand it. If
Speaker 2: he had said, well, you know, Dan, if he had said,
Speaker 2: we're going to be in all these students coming in
Speaker 2: from from communists China because we just found out that
Speaker 2: someone was trying to bring in this, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: There was a problem. The excit from Afghanistan was was
Speaker 5: not control and it led to the death of a
Speaker 5: lot of American soldier women and men at that point
Speaker 5: us by a bomb throwne and by the Taliban. And
Speaker 5: now the Taliban had all the rights to Shall we
Speaker 5: say all the women are back to nothing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How does that? How does that all, George? How
Speaker 2: does that relate to what we're talking about tonight? How
Speaker 2: does that relate to Donald Trump?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I know, well, let's just go back on him.
Speaker 2: It goes back on Donald Trump. I see. Okay, that
Speaker 2: was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the decisions that
Speaker 2: were made leading up to it were made by the
Speaker 2: Biden administration. That was in August of twenty three, as
Speaker 2: I'm sure you recall.
Speaker 5: Other than that, the president is very, very vengeful and
Speaker 5: anybody who opposes him.
Speaker 2: All right, I think I think I tend to agree
Speaker 2: with him that, George, I got a role here. We
Speaker 2: went somehow from the students who were bringing in, you know,
Speaker 2: poisonous materials to infect our crops to what happened in
Speaker 2: Kabul in August of twenty twenty three. I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to make connection.
Speaker 5: Okay, So thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Have a nice feeling.
Speaker 2: Talk again. We'll talk again. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: Christian in Pebty, Massachusetts. Christian, you're next on nightsig go
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 7: Hey, Dan, I haven't talked to you a while. Listening
Speaker 7: by Luie uh to bring up with a clement sense
Speaker 7: to this, I'm thinking we're all listening to the same
Speaker 7: thing around and round and now America round. We are
Speaker 7: in a position where you have to pay attention as
Speaker 7: one saying the case by case yes, but you also
Speaker 7: have to be oh man, how doesn't worked. I was
Speaker 7: putting this way. You can't have Harvard Ununiversity not be diverse.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, anybody who's going to be
Speaker 7: a student there, yes, they should be checked out. They
Speaker 7: should be background checked through everything, including their families. And
Speaker 7: somebody like Colorado where a family member will do something
Speaker 7: and announced I've never done I've never told any It
Speaker 7: was just me well that you were sacrificing your family
Speaker 7: because of what you wanted to do, and that means
Speaker 7: they don't get the due process because you already sacrificed
Speaker 7: your family because of what you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if that analysis holds up legally,
Speaker 2: but I'm not necessarily in disagreement with you in the
Speaker 2: moments of anger that we all feel in light of
Speaker 2: what happened in in Colorado, no question about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But back to Harvard, which is the main focus here.
Speaker 7: Harbor's Harvard will get through this. And Donald, as you say,
Speaker 7: Miss President Trump, I may not agree with him, but
Speaker 7: if you have opposing views and you need to set
Speaker 7: boundaries within yourself. Of at this point, I've successfully made
Speaker 7: the message across I don't want to destroy the entity
Speaker 7: for an American institution. So at some point you that
Speaker 7: common sense kind of starts to become aware of his being.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it will, but you would hope
Speaker 7: the people around him can say, well, we're the top
Speaker 7: of the country where your cabinet. Can you look at
Speaker 7: what you're doing and there might be a better avenue
Speaker 7: instead of wasting so much time and energy on that
Speaker 7: laser being.
Speaker 2: Got fair enough, fair enough, And there's a lot of
Speaker 2: other issues, including tarifs and including immigration, borders, back bank
Speaker 2: including Ukraine and Russia, including more in peace in the
Speaker 2: Middle East, including whether Iran is apparently is very close
Speaker 2: to getting a nuclear weapon. A lot of stuff on
Speaker 2: his place. They can't have it, Yeah, but what do
Speaker 2: you do about it? That's the question.
Speaker 7: Well, that's why all this energy needs to be refocused
Speaker 7: to some other things that need to pay more attention to.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the things that that George Bush
Speaker 2: was rightfully criticized for in two thousand and after nine
Speaker 2: to eleven, there were warning signs and there was there
Speaker 2: was lack of communication between FBI, CIA and those guys
Speaker 2: from the country a long time learning how to fly
Speaker 2: airplanes and not wanting to learn how to take off
Speaker 2: or land. They just wanted to know how to steer
Speaker 2: the plane when they were up in the air. And
Speaker 2: there was a an FBI agent in Minnesota who sniffed
Speaker 2: that out and she couldn't get her information up the
Speaker 2: chain of command of the FBI that maybe nine to
Speaker 2: eleven could have been stopped.
Speaker 7: Now one last point to Massachusetts. I really think that
Speaker 7: you can't be having the police departments of the state
Speaker 7: being opposed to what's going on for the process of
Speaker 7: removing people that are not of good nature, lack of
Speaker 7: kind of words. They have people on the radar screen
Speaker 7: and they can say, look, there's a record here, there's
Speaker 7: a qualling here, this is the one not the eighteen
Speaker 7: year old kids was going to school and has no clue.
Speaker 7: So if you have an interaction between the forces, then
Speaker 7: they can be more accurate with what they're picking up
Speaker 7: and it'll be more towards the real goal of those
Speaker 7: with the bad thought to be here.
Speaker 2: But I also think that our state officials are not
Speaker 2: so inclined, and our state officials from the governor on
Speaker 2: down has said to for example, the state police don't
Speaker 2: cooperate with the Feds. And there's this this court decision
Speaker 2: from twenty seventeen called the lun decision, which to me
Speaker 2: is a very confusing decision which a lot of people
Speaker 2: rely upon. And they're people here who don't want anyone
Speaker 2: out of here. Okay, that's the problem. You have some
Speaker 2: people who are the Trump people who want to throw
Speaker 2: everybody out, including the eighteen year old kid. And maybe
Speaker 2: we get to the eighteen year old kid at some
Speaker 2: point and you give them a hearing and you find
Speaker 2: out what his goals are. Right now, let's focus on
Speaker 2: the bad people. Let's get the bad people out of here,
Speaker 2: and let's expedite that process. Okay, you give them an
Speaker 2: immigration hearing maybe, or you give him a quick hearing
Speaker 2: in federal court. Uh, but you you're not going to
Speaker 2: give him ten years and twenty appeals they get a more.
Speaker 7: Nope, don't get those.
Speaker 2: That's too much. Yeah. Absolutely, we're in the same page. Christian,
Speaker 2: appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Calling really do very night.
Speaker 7: Thank you, and I'm still listening.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Please keep listening and keep calling. I need your voice.
Speaker 2: Thank you have a great name. Go take quick break here.
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Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. We're gonna go next.
Speaker 2: Tom is in Dorchester, Tom, next, do on nice saga.
Speaker 3: Right ahead, Dan, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing warm enough for you tonight over there at Dorchester.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dahn. With all due respect to you, Yep.
Speaker 3: We have the most brilliant human being in the world
Speaker 3: as president of the United States. Now, I want to
Speaker 3: talk about the bromance you were talking about. This guy
Speaker 3: is so brilliant. He took he took talking.
Speaker 2: About are we talking about Trump or Musk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking this to the bromance. I thought, you want
Speaker 3: to talk about that too.
Speaker 2: But you're telling me this guy's brilliant and we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about the bromance. I went on the which side
Speaker 2: of the bromance you're talking about?
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about the whole situation. What Trump did?
Speaker 3: Let me explain what Trump did. He took he took
Speaker 3: Elon into the back room and he said to Elon,
Speaker 3: you know, if the Democrats were in power, did blow
Speaker 3: the deficit right out of control? And he said, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that. And he said, Eon, how do you
Speaker 3: like having your cats burnt? And he said no, how
Speaker 3: do you like being called the Nazi? And he said, oh,
Speaker 3: that's terrible, he said. He said, I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. You're gonna go out and say this
Speaker 3: this thing is, this new budget is an abomination and
Speaker 3: you don't agree with it at all. And the Democrats,
Speaker 3: who are the stupidest party in the day, I alwash,
Speaker 3: that'd be declassified as a party. It's a communist party.
Speaker 3: It's a fastiest party.
Speaker 2: Of tom You know, again, always welcome to express your opinions,
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm going to dispute you when it
Speaker 2: gets beyond opinion and you make a statement like that,
Speaker 2: But go ahead, So he tells me, he tells Elon
Speaker 2: going out there and say this is a disgusting abomination.
Speaker 2: I got it, so far, go ahead.
Speaker 3: This is Bruce comes back and he says he doesn't
Speaker 3: agree with Trump at all, and he's mad at Trump.
Speaker 3: And I was watching the Democrats tonight. Oh, we'll gladly
Speaker 3: take him back into the boat after they called him
Speaker 3: a Nazi for the passion four or five months.
Speaker 2: Okay, so give me the strategy, tom, I'm on the
Speaker 2: edge of my chair here as.
Speaker 4: To the.
Speaker 3: Democrats. Will will stop burning his kas and he'll stop
Speaker 3: causing call him a nasty if he disagrees with Trump?
Speaker 2: All right? Oh, I got it. Okay, So I just
Speaker 2: got one question, right, got one question?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I follow you. I understand the strategy now that you've
Speaker 2: explained it to me. Why then if it was kind
Speaker 2: of you know, these two guys working in the back
Speaker 2: room together and you know, Swung telling the other guy
Speaker 2: what to say and how to say it. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: Musk tonight, release the statements that says the reason that
Speaker 2: the Epstein suicide. Information is not being released is because
Speaker 2: Trump was involved with Epstein on you know some of
Speaker 2: that whatever they call those Lolita I expressed planes. Now,
Speaker 2: if if this was like discuss between them, why would
Speaker 2: Elon say something? You know, that's pretty harmful. If it's
Speaker 2: true that.
Speaker 3: The brilliant Donald Trump will throw that out there, he'll say,
Speaker 3: you know, I'd say that, and the Democrats will love you.
Speaker 3: And when they released me the papers, they might find
Speaker 3: out he visited the island and with all the other
Speaker 3: celebrities and politicians and he said, this is this is
Speaker 3: just craziness going on here. He threw him out of
Speaker 3: his he was down in Marilago. He threw him out
Speaker 3: because he's he was getting cozy to one of the
Speaker 3: young girls at Marilago.
Speaker 4: He threw him out.
Speaker 6: So, uh.
Speaker 2: Again, if he's that brilliant, I don't know why he
Speaker 2: would have been on the plane to Lolita Island. But
Speaker 2: we'll save that for another night.
Speaker 3: I don't think he wanted I don't think he wants
Speaker 3: that all. They're going to find out he didn't go
Speaker 3: it all, but in case they did, he he might.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to know that shaken in either Donald President
Speaker 2: Trump or in Elon Musk and I appreciate your analysis.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Yeah, you very well.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Have a great night. Okay, all right, good night.
Speaker 2: There we go. We're just getting all sorts of analysis.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Joe and Lyn. Joe, you're next
Speaker 2: on nice sego right ahead, Joe.
Speaker 8: Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I have
Speaker 8: mixed feelings. I understand how Harvey feels. He went to Harvard,
Speaker 8: but Harvard shouldn't even be allowing that to happen.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, And he went to Harvard Law School, but
Speaker 2: he went to Princeville.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Harvard Law School.
Speaker 8: They shouldn't even be doing that to the Jewish students.
Speaker 8: And I am for the travel band especially. I'm forgetting
Speaker 8: taking our land back from the Chinese at around military basis.
Speaker 8: These people shouldn't be doing this. And if you don't
Speaker 8: like this country, I agree with you on some things.
Speaker 8: No hearing just gets them out of this country.
Speaker 4: We have to be careful.
Speaker 8: But too many people are doing this. And I'm sort
Speaker 8: of a little bit of an isolationist. Like my friend
Speaker 8: in Brighton, this is going too far. Look at these
Speaker 8: kids that brought this stuff in. They would have ruined
Speaker 8: our crops. They need to be deported.
Speaker 2: That if if that stuff had gotten into the crops
Speaker 2: and we were not and we didn't burn the crops, uh,
Speaker 2: and that got into the food chain, you'd have some
Speaker 2: dead Americans. That's pretty nasty stuff. And that's why if
Speaker 2: he's in.
Speaker 8: You know that those Chinese are sneaky people, Well, we can't.
Speaker 2: Trust I think the leadership of the CCP is sneaky. Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't have to label one point four billion people
Speaker 2: or whatever the colored part.
Speaker 8: We needed to get them out of here, I think,
Speaker 8: and go straight in this country out. But I have
Speaker 8: mixed feelings in Hart Harvard shouldn't be doing that, and
Speaker 8: I can see why Trump wants to stop their funding
Speaker 8: until he gets all of this out and make sure
Speaker 8: that they promise this will never happen again. It's supposed
Speaker 8: to be an Ivy League school in these schools, you know.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, but it is an Ivy League school.
Speaker 8: I think it is. Isn't it is Harvard?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 3: Yes, it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I
Speaker 2: would have forgotten that. Joe. I appreciate that, appreciate.
Speaker 3: That okay, thank you very much, much very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good information here in case you
Speaker 2: missed it, Dorian and Chelsea. Dorian, you're next on nightside. Dorian,
Speaker 2: right ahead, Hi Dan, Hi Doreen.
Speaker 4: I agree with you about the there goes my fruit
Speaker 4: and vegetables that I depend on. That's terrible when I
Speaker 4: heard that.
Speaker 2: Well, I hopefully your fruit and vegetables are going to
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 4: I hope. So you know why I don't trust no
Speaker 4: one anymore. You know, I'm going to say this, dear,
Speaker 4: you mentioned this. This started way before. At nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: I went by the hotel those those animals stayed at,
Speaker 4: and I was shocked. In Maine, they stayed in Maine
Speaker 4: when they bombed all those buildings.
Speaker 2: Yes, I well some of them still, some of them
Speaker 2: stayed up in Maine and some of them stayed, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, at what used to be the it
Speaker 2: was then. I think it became a day's in on
Speaker 2: Soldier's Field Road right next to well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I know the ones that I went by
Speaker 4: the sleazy hotel in Maine where they stayed. I was modified.
Speaker 4: I thought they stayed in the high class in Port
Speaker 4: when they didn't. I went by that hotel. It was
Speaker 4: a shack. Yeah, all right, because my sister lives in
Speaker 4: Maine with her husband, and I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into a nine to eleven
Speaker 4: because it's all dying and over with.
Speaker 6: But they'll never.
Speaker 4: Forget what they did to our people, you get it.
Speaker 4: I am disgusted with the government. You don't know who
Speaker 4: to trust, who to talk to. I'm sorry, Dan, I'm
Speaker 4: going Austere radio. I'm sorry. My stomach is in notts
Speaker 4: over this whole situation.
Speaker 2: Let me try to calm you down a little bit,
Speaker 2: Doreen for a second here. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: stoch so no. Yeah, we're talking tonight about Donald Trump
Speaker 2: trying to prevent Harvard from accepting foreign students.
Speaker 4: I agree, no exchange students, Okay, I made the car.
Speaker 4: No more exchanged students in this country. These are the
Speaker 4: ones that going back stating the troublem. I'm sorry, okay.
Speaker 4: Why am I taking it out on the Jews? Why
Speaker 4: are they taking it on the Jewish people?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, unfortunately, there's there's a very sad history
Speaker 2: of anti Semitism around the world.
Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, Dan has to be stopped,
Speaker 4: no question, I know. Dan.
Speaker 2: So you're okay with the travel band that the president.
Speaker 4: Wants to Oh yes, oh, yes, yes you do have.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like sounds to be like you
Speaker 2: have some faith in Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Is what I'm here, and you say, well, this, this shouldn't.
Speaker 3: This should have been done.
Speaker 4: Way before Donald Trump was president.
Speaker 2: We can't change that now though, Doreen, Right.
Speaker 3: No, we can't. No, we can't.
Speaker 4: The damage is done, Dan, The damage is done a
Speaker 4: long time ago.
Speaker 2: Well has been done. The question is how do you
Speaker 2: prevent further damage from occurring? That's I think what I should.
Speaker 3: Well, if I had a.
Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor was a harbor.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know about Pearl I'm yes, I don't, but.
Speaker 2: But that I don't think we're going to have a
Speaker 2: repeat of Pearl Harbor. But there are other other targets
Speaker 2: in this country that we need to harden. Uh. There
Speaker 2: are nuclear power plants that could be hit. There are
Speaker 2: there are there are you know, electrical facilities, there are oils.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have to think we have to be smarter
Speaker 2: than the bad guys, Doreen, And we can. That's what
Speaker 2: happened in the past, but I think as a society
Speaker 2: we have to prevent and think about what could happen
Speaker 2: in the future. That's I just don't want you to
Speaker 2: get discouraged, that's all. And I don't want to have
Speaker 2: an u stomach.
Speaker 4: No, Dan, you're absolutely right, you are correct.
Speaker 2: All right, will you my history, keep calling the show
Speaker 2: and keep listening to the radio, and I'm always here
Speaker 2: to talk. I will, I will have a great night.
Speaker 2: All right, good night, Go take quick break. Now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we've got a couple open lines, so
Speaker 2: let's jump on board six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I got who's up next? Oh, I got Liz in
Speaker 2: East Boston. I got Will in Long Island. And if
Speaker 2: you want to call, I might be able to get
Speaker 2: you in before eleven, and if not, we'll carry over
Speaker 2: into eleven. I think this is an important conversation, and
Speaker 2: I think we got to get President Trump to focus
Speaker 2: on what's important. And I don't think his focus and
Speaker 2: his attention on Harvard is particularly helpful. Now I'm much
Speaker 2: more supportive of his travel Band, although I will admit
Speaker 2: the travel Band may in the short term prevent some
Speaker 2: people coming to this country who should be welcomed here.
Speaker 2: Not everyone in Libya is a bad person. Not everyone
Speaker 2: in Iran is a bad person. But those countries they
Speaker 2: know who the people are in their countries, who they
Speaker 2: will allow to travel internationally. And I want nothing to
Speaker 2: do with anyone that Iran will let come towards us.
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside after this, You're.
Speaker 1: On Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get rolling. You're going to go to
Speaker 2: Liz and East Boston. Hey, Liz, welcome back. How are
Speaker 2: you tonight?
Speaker 9: I'm fine, Thank you. I want to say that I
Speaker 9: agree with the Travel Band. I'm free with Harvard not
Speaker 9: accepting international students anymore. I mean, just think about it,
Speaker 9: like your kid works really hard, he's an American and
Speaker 9: his seat at Harvard goes to someone that's not from
Speaker 9: this country.
Speaker 2: That's a factor. I understand the concern about that. Yes
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 10: And you know, didn't didn't do a lot?
Speaker 7: You go to Harvard?
Speaker 4: Did what in lot? No?
Speaker 3: Salman on you shure.
Speaker 2: No, did not go to Harvard. I'm sure if he
Speaker 2: had gone to Harvard, he had family members in the
Speaker 2: Boston area who were flown out of this country the
Speaker 2: day after the bombings, when when no Americans were getting
Speaker 2: access to airplanes, which is again a very curious aspect
Speaker 2: of the whole interesting. Yeah, yeah, so I'm very much
Speaker 2: aware of that, to be honest with you, And uh.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's I'd just like to say something about that
Speaker 10: that kid that was you know, arrested by ice and etcetera.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's been here for ten years.
Speaker 10: His parents have been here illegally for ten years. They
Speaker 10: still don't speak English. I mean, what's this boy's plan?
Speaker 10: Is he going to continue to live here illegally or
Speaker 10: does he have a plan to become United States? I mean,
Speaker 10: my understanding, grandparents did it, My great grandparents did it,
Speaker 10: and it was hard but not easy.
Speaker 9: But there's a way.
Speaker 2: Okay, my understanding. I try to answer your question. My
Speaker 2: understanding is that he made bail tonight. He was given
Speaker 2: I think it was two thousand dollars bond, which was
Speaker 2: up two hundred dollars in cash. H and his lawyers
Speaker 2: say that they he's going to request asylum. I think
Speaker 2: it's interesting that the father was on television. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's turned himself in yet. I think he was
Speaker 2: the person that the the ICE agents were looking for.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how this plays out. It should be fun.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the dash driving around like the maniac one hundred
Speaker 9: miles per hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some reports of that. And and again
Speaker 2: the father came here a long time, came here a
Speaker 2: long time ago. He's still illegal. H And but again
Speaker 2: I think it was a mistake to pick up. The
Speaker 2: amount of publicity that that that ICE has or has
Speaker 2: been devoted to the eighteen year old kid far out
Speaker 2: weighs the good that ICE did in picking up some
Speaker 2: bad people fourteen and sixty one bad people.
Speaker 7: That's well, that's a liberal media.
Speaker 9: They just want to you know, they take this one
Speaker 9: case and they blow it up instead of talking about
Speaker 9: all the murderers and rapists and women beaters.
Speaker 7: You know that he's wrong with this kid, I mean,
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's terrible.
Speaker 9: But you know what you hear, illegally make a plan you.
Speaker 10: Want to live here?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I think that he now is going to
Speaker 2: file for SA for asylum. I don't know where he's from,
Speaker 2: don't know what will happen.
Speaker 1: To that from Brazil.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's your correct. I should have known that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And again I don't know coming from Brazil, if he
Speaker 2: would qualify for asylum. It's not as if you could
Speaker 2: just say give me asylum and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: that makes you a citizen. So, Liz.
Speaker 9: And another thing is, you know he's on that volleyball team.
Speaker 9: What if my son missed on the volleyball he was
Speaker 9: the one who are illegal aliens. It's another thing.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 10: They kid a triumph for sports and they don't make
Speaker 10: it and someone like him makes it.
Speaker 2: All right? All right, thank you, Liz, appreciate your call.
Speaker 2: Keep calling the program. Let me go to Will down
Speaker 2: in Long Island.
Speaker 4: Will.
Speaker 2: We're up against it a little bit, but I don't
Speaker 2: want to have you hang it through the news. Go
Speaker 2: right ahead, Will.
Speaker 6: Well then you know, I know you had some sellar
Speaker 6: like you said, sellar analysis before the break there for
Speaker 6: a second. But we can have a little bit of
Speaker 6: analysis here. See. I think the key to what Trump
Speaker 6: is doing and a lot of these aspects, okay, but
Speaker 6: mostly with immigration. This is his Andrew Jackson moment. The
Speaker 6: civil war that's being fought in this country right now
Speaker 6: is between the branches of government, separate but equal branches.
Speaker 6: And one branch in particular as well overstepped its bounds.
Speaker 6: Really since Marbray versus Madison, the whole idea of judicial review,
Speaker 6: that whole illusion, okay, is really dependent on the president's
Speaker 6: willingness to oblige a court order. Some of these lower
Speaker 6: courts and what they're doing. He just needs to outright
Speaker 6: defy them, and he can certainly do that if Home
Speaker 6: is on board.
Speaker 2: Okay, certainly, Well, at that point you're buying another impeachment
Speaker 2: for seeding and maybe.
Speaker 6: Right, but that's maybe, okay, hold on, go ahead.
Speaker 2: In that regard, you also get an impeachment removal.
Speaker 6: Right maybe. And that's exactly what separate but equal meant,
Speaker 6: because the whole idea of this judicial review, that the
Speaker 6: Supreme Court and any court actually is the end all
Speaker 6: be all of the interpretation of the Constitution is not true.
Speaker 6: It's exactly why Corey Booker, in something we haven't talked
Speaker 6: about yet and I've been meaning to talk to about,
Speaker 6: introduced legislation last week to turn the control of the
Speaker 6: marshal over the judicial branch. And then they and the
Speaker 6: media tried the coin of phrase it in a way
Speaker 6: that it's for the protection of the justices.
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
Speaker 6: It's a way for you to grant powers again to
Speaker 6: the judicial branch which were not intended by our founding fathers. Okay,
Speaker 6: the real separate, but the real separate but equal way
Speaker 6: to do that is they have their opinion. The executive
Speaker 6: branch can enforce or decide not to enforce, like you know,
Speaker 6: like remember Marshall made his order, now let's see him
Speaker 6: enforce it. And then our legislative branch has the option
Speaker 6: to impeach and remove, which will not happen under certain circumstances,
Speaker 6: especially with these lower courts, because we have a Republican
Speaker 6: Congress right now, right, so I doubt he's going to
Speaker 6: get removed for that. More importantly, it made Soda Mayor
Speaker 6: say something last week or two weeks ago that was
Speaker 6: very important.
Speaker 4: Well, this, uh, this breach is.
Speaker 6: For precedents, okay, which is going to wind up bring
Speaker 6: into the Supreme Court. Not I'll gladly take the loss
Speaker 6: in the lower court to bring to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 6: This ability for some judge in California to you know,
Speaker 6: make a ruling that you know, sweeps across the entire
Speaker 6: nation and affects the entire nation. Okay, that should not
Speaker 6: be the case.
Speaker 2: Is that issue is going to get to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: and which is more this June. But I can't see
Speaker 2: it not getting next to it next October or maybe
Speaker 2: maybe if it's really critical, sometime this summer. Normally the
Speaker 2: court leaves in the end of June, doesn't go back
Speaker 2: to October first. You know, they're off July or August,
Speaker 2: in September. This might be a different summer for the
Speaker 2: US Supreme Court, is what you're saying. And I disagree
Speaker 2: with you, right.
Speaker 6: And if Trump is gonna die on a hill, right,
Speaker 6: I mean, first off, you could only have this term supposedly, right.
Speaker 6: I always said stupid things, but we know how that is, right.
Speaker 6: So if there's a hill to die on, this is it? Okay?
Speaker 6: Because this is going to bring back the power to
Speaker 6: the executive branch that it is supposed to have. Okay, And.
Speaker 2: Look, Will Will Will Will. I'm up to the against
Speaker 2: the eleventh. I'll hold you over for a couple of
Speaker 2: minutes if you want on the other side of the eleven.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, but I want a conversation.
Speaker 2: I think you've made your point. I want a conversation
Speaker 2: between you and me after eleven. Fair enough, Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: be back right after the eleven if there are lines open.
Speaker 2: You know the numbers. Let's keep it going.