Speaker 1: And here we go. Hi, how are you welcome to
the Big Podcasts. Today's Monday. Today's the twenty ninth day
of September, year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. My
name is Tom Sullivan. And as we get this week underway,
we are well. Tomorrow is the end of the federal
fiscal year. So they'll shut down tomorrow night if they
don't come to some agreement. They're both blaming each other.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: John Thune and Mike Johnson went over to the White
House met with the President today, so did Chuck Schumer
and Haakim Jeffries. And what the Democrats are asking for
is millions upon millions of dollars more spending to make
to help out with the premiums on Obamacare, because it's
too expensive for a lot of people that are low
income people, and so they want more money for those folks.
And the Republican said, look at we got a lot
to hash out. Why don't we just sign this kick
the can down the road until a few weeks into
October and then we keep the government open and then
we'll keep negotiating behind the scenes. And the republic the
Democrats to say, no, we want more money for the
healthcare premiums. So we'll see who blinks. But yeah, that's
tomorrow night. I I don't know if it affects other
than if you're a government worker. But there's other people
involved as well. We've got the big violence over the weekend.
We got the Michigan church. Crazy guy drove through the
front doors of the church and in his pickup truck
blasted through the doors and then got out and started
shooting people in the church. And he had some sort
of they talked about IED's and Molotov cocktails. He had
some accelerants with him. The church burned to the ground,
and today they came out and said, we'll play some
of it for you. Four dead, eight wounded. Place was firebombed.
They finally did come out today and say they did
account for everybody. So the guy who is the man
who was killed, he had got into a shootout with
the police on that forty year old guy. He had
big flags and the band back of his pickup truck
as he drove through. I got to run down more
about this. This guy from CBS today said, pictures emerging
of the man who police say attacked the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Michigan during services
on Sunday. Named Thomas Jacob Sandford, forty years old, Iraq
war veteran deployed once to a rock for several months
during two thousand and seven two thousand and eight. I
don't know what the several months was all about. Usually
they went for longer than that. In any case, the
guy there's a guy there who's running for local city council,
told CBS News that he met mister Sandford at his
home last week while campaigning. He said Sandford had a
particular dislike of the Latter day Saints Church previously known
as the Mormon Church, and had told him that his
followers believe they're above Jesus. So this candidate said that
Miss Sandford told him he was deployed overseas and when
he came home he had issues with drugs. The guys
originally from Michigan told him he moved to Utah for
a fresh start to plow snow and while there started
a relationship with a Latter Day Saints woman. He told him,
he said, they wanted me to get rid of my tattoos.
They wanted me to do all this stuff. I wouldn't
do it, so that's why he doesn't like people that
are Mormons. Apparently, he said. The guy did not talk
politics with him. He said nothing about Charlie Kirk, nothing
about our current president or past president. He asked me
about guns. I said, I support the Second Amendment. We
ended the conversation very positively. So we don't know. The
guy was obviously troubled somehow. But that's a little bit
more of the background on the shooter. It's the chief
of it's Grand Blank, Michigan. It's ball Town, not far
from Flint, and the chief of police. They're at this
to say.
Speaker 3: We were onseen within thirty seconds from that original nine
to one one call. Within eight minutes, that suspect was
neutralized in the back parking lot of the church.
Speaker 2: Evil.
Speaker 3: This was an evil act of violence. That's exactly what
this was. And this is not Grand Blank. This does
not define Grand Blank and who we are. We are
a community and I am confident that together we're going
to build a stronger community due to this incident. Now
an update, this left five people dead, eight people injured.
As I said, this is an evil act and does
not define Grand Blank or who we are At this time,
what we know is everyone has been accounted for. We
still are in the process of clearing out that church,
but at this time everyone is accounted for. We asked
it to stay away from the scene. Let us work
to clear this call so then we could get back
to normal.
Speaker 2: That's what we all want.
Speaker 3: Grand Blank Township police officers, the community of Grand Blank Township.
We're hurting and we know that you are hurting as
well with us. I want to remind you did we
had the Family Assistance Center open. They will be open
Monday and Tuesday at the Genesis Athletic Club from eight
am d eight pm. Dead address is eight oh one
Health Part Boulevard, Grand Blank, Michigan for eight four three
nine Seek service. Let's come back together and be stronger,
together and better. I'll open it up at this time
for any questions, sir.
Speaker 4: Question when comes to the active violence, you need to
find why that is considering active islands and not even
more serious like terror.
Speaker 3: I will let Agent Coleman speak to that particular question.
Speaker 5: Yes, as of right now, we are calling it an
active violence as this is an investigation that is continuing.
We are continuing to receive leads. We're continuing to run
down all information, and once we're able to ascertain definitively
what we have, that's when we'll make those statements. But
as of right now, this is an active violence, thank you, please, you.
Speaker 6: Bulled us an additive targeted violence. Can you tell us
who you believe its targeted flaws A specific person, the
LS church, another group.
Speaker 5: Well, as of right now, again, as this is an
ongoing investigation, what I would say is when I say
targeted violence, I mean targeted within our state and within
our community. Right now, what we are here for are
the families and the victims, and we're going to work
diligently in order to make sure we can bring closure
for them as well, so we can.
Speaker 2: Want from holdive.
Speaker 5: There's some shattering that the exs you opening was a
wonder of something of that nature.
Speaker 7: Channel like about that?
Speaker 5: Is that something that your kids feeds you or positive holding?
That is something I cannot speak to at this point
of time.
Speaker 8: When someone was arrested after writing through ugaritated near the church,
can you share the information on that, why they're arrested
and do what their attentions?
Speaker 3: Laura, Yes, Chief, Yes I could speak on that. Yes,
there was an incident out there. We are still in
the process of investigating that incident, whether or not it's
related or not. We I could tell you that we
do have a twenty one year old person in custody
for that incident right now.
Speaker 6: Does the suspect of the Empire ecriminal history or a
non contact with one.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about the suspect from yesterday or today?
The suspect from yesterday has been arrested by law enforcement
in the past. The suspect the five data includes the
suspects details.
Speaker 2: Burglary and O WI that I can't give you a.
Speaker 5: No, So I just wanted to say no morentos. Can
you search the church?
Speaker 3: And we have complete his search in the church. But
as we know, everyone has been accounted for. That's going
to be all the questions that we answer today.
Speaker 1: So you may have heard that one question was about
there was somebody arrested today, some twenty one year old idiot.
There's police everywhere around this church. They've got the roads
blocked off. The police are out there with roadblocks and
this kid in a twenty one year old is a
man in a car tried to drive through and around
the barricades and the photograph of his car. They had
the door open and there was a long gun sitting
on the seat next to the driver.
Speaker 2: So who knows what that was.
Speaker 1: All about, but you think you're just asking for trouble
to do something like that. Daniel Brunner, a former FBI guy,
has had this response to what was going on in Michigan.
Speaker 9: Well, that indicates to me that they've found something that
will differ natively show that there's a violation of federal crimes,
a domestic terrorism incident, you know, a violation of someone's
civil rights, burning of the church, a lot of things.
A lot of people will recalled back to the sixties,
the church burning, So those fall under FBI jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: So if this individual targeted that church had.
Speaker 9: A specific a reason to attack that church because of
its religious background, then that would indicate that that would
most likely be a violation of someone's civil rights, thus
triggering an FBI federal investigation and having them be the
lead agency in the investigation, working alongside Michigan law enforcement
as a parallel local investigation at the same time. Well,
obviously the number one thing they want to look for
is if there are anyone else that was co conspiring
with him working alongside him, that would have been probably
determined within the first few hours to see if there
was any additional threats that were out there. Right now,
they want to figure out where his pathway of violence began,
at which point he made the decision that this incident
had to occur. They're going to determine. They're going to
look at everything, so there really isn't anything that they
won't look for. They're going to look for every single
piece of evidence along the way, and they're going to
also look for if there were other people that may
have helped him or could have raised the red flag,
could have made a phone call to local authorities and
notified him saying this individual is troubled. This clearly to me,
anyone that conducts these type of attacks has a mental issue,
has a mental problem, because violence is never the answer.
So determining where this individual made the decision, the pathway
to violence, where it began, and that's where they're going
to determine what red flags were missed and where it
could have been stopped.
Speaker 1: I know they have to do that kind of investigation,
but there's a million billion ways that people get radicalized,
and I don't know how. I mean, they need to
document it and say, this is how the guy became radicalized,
this is what ticked him off, this is what what
you know, broke the straw on the camel's back, whatever
cliche you want to use, but I just it's not
going to change the next person that comes along and
thinks up something bizarre in order to listen to this guy.
This this This is from a video from a from
a traffic accident. A guy rammed into a police car. Listen,
listen to this back and forth.
Speaker 10: Pappened dude?
Speaker 3: Oh no, man, I I've been drinking. I did that
on part for serge.
Speaker 2: Well you hit me on purpose? Why, I'm bored? You bored?
So you ran in the back of me on purpose?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Why is that?
Speaker 2: I hate talks?
Speaker 1: Man. So he was a drunk guy and he said
he was board and at the end there he finally said,
I did it on purpose, and I hate cops. So,
I mean, I don't know how you stop any of this,
but there's always going to be people that are, shall
we say, mentally challenged in some way or another. So
we've got all of that. The other piece of violence
over the weekend was got No almost no publicity. There
was a shooting at a waterfront bar in Southport, South Carolina.
I'm sorry, Southport, North Carolina, and three dead, five wounded.
Somebody pulled up in a boat and all these people
are sitting out on the deck. It's Sunday evening. Was
it Saturday even it was an evening yesterday or the
day before. They're sitting out on this waterfront deck overlooking
the water. Nice evening and the guy pulls up in
a boat and starts unloading on them with a gun.
Killed three of them, wounded, five of them.
Speaker 11: And it just.
Speaker 1: I mean, the suspects alive. He's in court today. We
haven't found out yet what they're going to do with
the guy. But how do you protect yourself from somebody
like that? It's just out of their mind. It did
not get a lot of publicity because the church in
Michigan is flames coming out of it. They have the
hell of news helicopter overhead showing the church burning down,
burned all the way to the ground. But there was
no video of what was going on at this waterfront
bar in Southport, North Carolina. But still three dead, five
wounded there and so speaking of violence, Portland, Oregon just
seems to be I'm sure this is an exaggeration, but
it just seems in my mind, it's always always got
groups protesting, their burning buildings, doing all kinds of damage,
and TIFA is usually the group behind all of this.
And so the President has said he's going to send
troops to Portland, Oregon to do exactly what he did
in Los Angeles, is to protect ice and protect federal
facilities in Portland. He did that during Trump one point
zero as well. But let's go back to this where
he's going to send troops to Portland because to protect
federal property and federal officers, ice officers. And so the
governor of Oregon, her name is Tina Kotek, she's all upset.
Speaker 8: Portland's doing just fine. And I made that very clear
to the president. He thinks there are elements here that
created an insurrection. I told him there is no insurrection
here and that we have this under controlled.
Speaker 1: She actually thinks they have it under control. It hasn't
been under control for years in Portland, Oregon. I don't
know what to say. I mean, it's just it's constantly
gangs of Antifa people running around burning properties and damaging property,
and so the President sending troops there to protect federal facilities.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what it did in La.
Speaker 1: And Governor Newsom in California sued Donald Trump because he
did that, and the courts ruled. The Ninth Circuit Court
of Appeals ruled that Donald Trump, the president, was within
his legal rights to do that. Now, the Ninth Circuit
Court of Appeals covers the entire West coast, that would
be Portland, Oregon. So even though the so Tina Kotek,
the governor of Oregon, is suing Donald Trump over sending
troops to Portland. But if I mean, a judge's got
to look at that, say excuse me. The Ninth Circuit
has just ruled a couple of weeks ago that the
president was within his authority. So this isn't just troops
taking over the street like they did in Washington, d C.
This is going because of responding to violence on the
streets of Portland. And the governor thinks that she's got
everything under control. She's very liberal, but that shouldn't make
any difference liberals versus conservatives. Can't we all see violence
as violence, But apparently she has blinders on and so
she's all upset, and so she's suing the president, and
that will go nowhere, I'm sure. So let's go to
the White House. There was a lot of activity there
to the day Benjamin Etna, who was in the White
House to meet with President Trump. They have well, the
President lined out an agreement for a ceasefire in Gaza,
and according to again CBS News that some of the
issues are that twenty one point plan and the wording
on this isn't exact, but the points are accurate. The
twenty one points are a commitment to cease fire talks,
full return of the hostages, increased amount of humanitarian aid
entering Gaza, new governance initiative without Hamas. They want Hamas gone,
and they will apparently came up with some sort of
I think this was President Trump's idea, some sort of
international governance for which he will leave that he will
be in charge, the president of the United States. Yes,
Donald Trump will be in charge. He's proposing that he
will be in charge of this international governance, get rid
of Hamas, and then they will come in and I
don't know who they're going to have un security force.
I'm not sure what, but gradual israel withdrawal from Gaza,
maintained peace, with an end to the Israeli military operation
in Gaza, an end to any attempts to build settlements
in Gaza. There will be no annexine of the West Bank.
There will be no forced displacement of Gazans or a
prevention of a return to Gaza for those who have left.
Two more steps taken to protect the legal and historical
status quo of religious sites in Jerusalem. And there will
be no actions to undermine the reform of the Palestinian
Authority or prevent it from being able to govern Gaza
and the West Bank. So complicated, a lot of push
and shove, Like I said, Net and Yahoo and Trump met,
and they seem to be in agreement mostly on all
of this. The problem with this is Hamas every time
has rejected any of these kinds of agreements. General Jack
Keane was asked about his thoughts on this twenty one
point plan.
Speaker 2: Well, this is step in that direction.
Speaker 7: I mean there's a paradigm change already taking place in
the Middle East with what Iran has done. Excuse me,
what Israel has done to Iran and it's proxy supported
by the United States major opportunities in terms of peace
and stability.
Speaker 2: But this is the last piece here.
Speaker 7: This is Hamas and the war in Gaza. And what
this different than the previous deal is this is not
just a hostage release for prison a deal. This is
a war termination deal. And that's what the President has
insisted on our president and that's and what's happening here
is all the hostages, alive and dead, must re released
at one time with a within forty eight hours of
agreement on the deal. And then it ends towards Hamas
stepping down in terms of governing Gaza and also this army.
That's something they have ever agreed to in the past
and supposedly we'll see if they're going to step up
and do this. The Israelis do have some concern over
who would be in charge after Hamas steps down. The
proposal on the table has some Palestinian authority involved in
that from the West Bank. Israel has fundamental distrust of
Mumma the Bass and obviously the Evans supports that and
concerns over that. So those are negotiating items. I think
that we'll see if they're able to get resolved. Then
we have a piece here. The truth is, every time
we've been close, it hasn't happened, and it's usually because
of Hamas at the last minute saying no, I'm not
going to agree to that. But they are in a
much more desperate situation now, they're down to the third
and fourth tier of leadership. They're down to a lot
of teenagers making up their fighting force. A desperate situation,
to be sure, is what I'm underscoring here for them.
Is that enough motivation we'll see Hamas really commits to
disarm and give up governance. That's always been a sticking point,
and obviously the Prime Minister are accurately portraying what his
issue is here. I think on the Israeli side there
is some negotiation room that likely could be worked out.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 7: I'm more optimistic about this one than any of the
others because clearly the pressure on both sides, and frankly,
the President of the United States strong involvement in the deal,
in the specifics of it and bringing it together. I
think that does make a difference here, and why I
have some optimism surrounding it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope he's right, and let's join in on
his optimism. But we'll wait to see what Hamas says
out of all of this. The school board in Des Moines,
Iowa is all in it issy because the superintendent of
schools for the biggest school district in the state of
Iowa is well. He was taken into custody by ice
because he's in the country illegally, and he had already
been given a final order of removal May of twenty
twenty four, and he's there as the head of the
Desboine School District. It's crazy. Chad wool, former Homeland Security secretary.
Speaker 4: It's remarkable that that school system would hire someone that
has no work authorization, that has no legal right to
be in the United States. So he has a number
of different ways to cure that illegal entry into the
United States, and over time he's chosen not to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other part about this is school districts are hiring
superintendents without checking their backgrounds. I mean to check not
only for are they citizens, but just checked their backgrounds
and they would have found that this guy had an
order of a final order of removal back in May
of twenty twenty four. He is So what they did
was they said, oh, you've been arrested by ice. Well,
this is crazy. They didn't fire him, they put him
unpaid administrative leave. Yeah, in his car that when they
finally caught up with him, he had a handgun and
three thousand dollars in cash when he was arrested. He
came to the US from Guyana in nineteen ninety nine
on a student visa. Well, he completed school and then
he went on to a career path for being a
school superintendent. There's a woman named Jennifer Cronin who plays
overplays her her concern about all this. She's the mother
of some students in Des Moines, and she calls herself
a mom detective.
Speaker 2: This is what she had to say.
Speaker 6: I guess shocked, but not shocked. I've had a few
dealings with the school board in probably the last six
months or so. We're concerns have been dismissed. And to
say that those were probably some mardplaces that they should
have addressed, then I think at the minimum they should
have taken my concerns seriously.
Speaker 1: Well, the school board did not take her concerns seriously.
Here's the.
Speaker 2: School board chairman, a chairwoman.
Speaker 12: I should sitting to take a page out of doctor
Robert's book and ask the community to engage in radical
empathy as we work through the situation together. Radical empathy
is the recognition that we can disagree and still empathize
with each other the respect of others humanity. This concept
will be essential as we wait to learn more.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm all for we should disagree civilly if we
have a disagreement. This isn't about an agreement or a disagreement.
This is about the fact that he is irre illegally.
He has broken the law. He has had his day
in court and the court said you got to deport him,
And the school board is talking about radical empathy.
Speaker 2: Back to the mom detective.
Speaker 6: When she said radical empathy to open her press conference
on Friday, where she didn't take any questions, my jaw
dropped because right now what we need is radical honesty,
radical transparency, and radical accountability. These are our kids we're
talking about. This isn't any job. This is the superintendent
which oversees our entire school district.
Speaker 9: So I.
Speaker 6: Their words ring hollow to me. I think that they
need to make sure that they're looking out for the
best interests in the safety of our kids. And I
don't see that happening, and that's something that I've brought
to their attention previously.
Speaker 4: Late.
Speaker 6: I will say that he was very charismatic. I will
give you that there are a lot of people who
felt that way and I did at the beginning as well.
That my mom radar quickly went up in I guess
the fall of twenty twenty three, so a few minutes
after he started when he recommended in the district approved
this idea of lifting the prohibition on not hiring people
with criminal backgrounds. So we have that had that going
for us, and then just throughout the last the course
the last couple of years, there's been a lot of
things that have caused me pause, caused red flags to
go up, and my mom had and I wasn't privy
to any of the documentation or anything that they he
may have provided during his interviewing and hiring process. But
if anything, I'm finding, just as a mom detective online
in the last couple of days, it indicates there were
a lot of red flags that were missed. So when
the school districts board chair goes on TV and says, no,
there were no red flags, I find that hard to lead.
Speaker 1: Aren't just school people supposed to be the smarter crowd
in the society. They better start looking for a new
superintendent because I think this guy's on the next deportation
playing that's going out there. But it just that's that's
in the heartland of America, and this guy nobody checked
on him. Amazing And finally, over the weekend, the New
York City mayor's race got more interesting. Eric Adams, the
current mayor of New York City, has decided that he
needs to drop out.
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 13: Despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my re election campaign,
but I must also sound and one.
Speaker 5: Extremism is growing in our politics.
Speaker 13: Often the city's forces used local government to advance to
visive agendas. Major change is welcome and necessary, but beware
of those who claim the answer to destroy the very
system we built together over generations.
Speaker 5: That is not changed, that is chaos.
Speaker 1: Well, essentially, Eric Adams was way behind him polling, and
even more important for him, he didn't have any money.
The campaign contributions were lacking and so as a result,
he did not have the money to keep the campaign going.
He according to the polling. One of the latest polls
This is a New York Times Siena poll has Mandami
at forty one percent, Cuomo twenty six, Curtis Sliwa fourteen,
and Eric Adams at eleven percent. So the New York
Times says, Okay, what if it just comes down to
Mandanni and Cuomo. The New York Times says Mandanni would win.
I'm saying we'd come up short. Cuomo forty six percent,
man Donnie forty one percent. Harry Enton has a little
bit different pulling.
Speaker 10: Yeah, this move is not a thump. It is a
dud of a move. What am I talking about here? Well,
take a look here. Mandanni leads regardless or whether or
not Adams stayed in the race or whether he got out.
Just as he did with Adams in the race, Mandonni
was ahead by nineteen points with no Adams. Look at this,
Mandanni is still ahead, and still ahead substantially by fifteen points.
I guess you can argue the margin got a little
bit smaller, but either way you're looking at him, it's
still a double digit lead for the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 10: The reason why it's pretty simple, and that is that
the opposition is divided.
Speaker 2: Mandannie with forty five percent, and of course there's all
this idea. Hey, you know, adams Is support is going
to go to Cuomo.
Speaker 10: He's a thirty percent, But there's still a Republican nominee
to Sleewa getting seventeen percent of the vote. So regardless
of whether or not Eric Adams left or stayed in
the race, you still have an opposition that is divided.
Speaker 2: Mystery.
Speaker 10: But what happens if Curtis Sliwak drops out, Well, Andrew
Cmo gets to forty two percent, but mndanni still leads
with forty nine percent. No matter which way you slice
the New York Pizza Pie, Mandani is still the favorite.
Speaker 2: And I should know even.
Speaker 10: If Andrew Cuomo got out that Curtis Sleewa would in
fact be an underdog to macdani as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again this is closer.
Speaker 5: Mandani is the clear favorite going forward.
Speaker 1: So the polls are not exactly the same, but the
bottom line is it's going to be a close race
between Andrew Cuomo and Zoron mandanis that's yeah coming up.
Oh and here's a little part of a pitch by
Mandanni to vote for him. He wants to do socialized
housing in New York City.
Speaker 11: Well further toward the Vienna model, we'll have to go
beyond the market. We can establish community land trusts to
gradually buy up housing on the private market and convert
it to community ownership. We can give tenants to right
a first refusal to buy out their landlords when buildings
go up for safe and we can.
Speaker 2: Fully commit to a new era of social housing, ending.
Speaker 11: Subsidies for luxury housing development, and using our wealth to
build beautiful, high quality social housing projects that offer good
homes and strong communities to everyone. We won't decommodify housing overnight,
but we know what we have to do, and we
have history to guide us.
Speaker 1: Actually we do have history to guide is in most
major cities there are neighborhoods called the projects. They are
government housing for low income people, and I know here
in New York many of them are just infested with crime.
Speaker 8: I I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what this guy's you thinking, but he thinks
that somehow his socialized housing. He's gonna buy homes and
then turn them over to some sort of I don't know,
so we'll see what comes with this. But right now
he's connect the reason why let me look at my
list here, I've got the Yeah, the reason why people
are voting is their most concerned Number one concern is
crime twenty five percent. The second item is cost of
living twenty percent, and the third item is lack of
affordable housing seventeen percent. And there's no question that it's
very expensive to live in New York City and housing
is super expensive. So we'll see what they come up
with on who's going to win on this race. As
far as New York City registered voters, seventeen percent want
all illegals deported, sixty seven percent want all illegals that
have been charged with crimes deported, and thirteen percent say
allow everyone to stay. New York City is Democrat eight
to one when it comes to registered voters, so uh
and Mondamie says he's going to provide also one hundred
million dollars for illegals Defense fund. He said, they're welcome
in New York City. But that's one hundred million dollars
that a lot of people that try to support the
elderly and also support education, that's one hundred million dollars
they're not going to get their hands on. So the
race is becoming It just seems clear to me, but
not according to the polls. It's pretty darn close. So
speaking of New York, let's go down to the New
York's doctors chain. See what happened on Wall Street today.
Positive the now up sixty eight, the forty six thousand,
three sixteen, SMP up seventeen, Nasdaq up one hundred and seven,
Gold up three dollars and seventy cents up to thirty
eight fifty eight, and the price of oil down thirty
five cents. Now it's the three dollars for one barrel
of oil. That's it for today. Thank you for coming by.
I appreciate it very much. We're going to try this
again tomorrow. Hope to see you then.