Speaker 1: It was like it was like the author had heard show,
Speaker 1: don't tell, but heard tell, Tell, Tell Tell.
Speaker 2: Horrible content because.
Speaker 3: Maul's quickly make you tired and cranky quickly.
Speaker 2: A bad author who might be a legitimately bad person.
Speaker 4: She is love Lord. That's like her background would be interesting.
Speaker 2: And a crazy amount of drama surrounding this book that
Speaker 2: is even more interesting than the poorly written book.
Speaker 4: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Mean book Club. This
Speaker 4: week we read Handbook for Mortals by Lanny Saramoo.
Speaker 2: Booky maybe.
Speaker 4: A handbook even not don't book that goes in your hands?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What the fuck is the title?
Speaker 2: I love the title?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: A book to the book? What is in the book?
Speaker 3: There is nothing. It's not like it's format, there's no information.
Speaker 4: It's not informational yet it's not. Yeah, it doesn't make
Speaker 4: any sense.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the book is horrible.
Speaker 1: Nobody just doesn't even match the title.
Speaker 3: It doesn't not at all.
Speaker 2: And as we learned, there is unfortunately another same named
Speaker 2: book that is about how to cope with terminal illness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this book isn't easy to find, but we'll get it.
Speaker 4: We'll get into that first. Let's introduce ourselves as always,
Speaker 4: I'm one of your hosts. Sarah Burton.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm another host, Clara Morris.
Speaker 2: Good morning or good afternoon or evening. My name is
Speaker 2: Jonas Grabis. Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, this is Raina B.
Speaker 4: Jordan. Oh, almost sounds like you said, Raina B. Jordan.
Speaker 1: This is Raina B.
Speaker 2: Jordan.
Speaker 1: You might catch me on the TV show Nashville, my
Speaker 1: sister Andy.
Speaker 4: And Nashville again. One of this one of the settings
Speaker 4: of this book. So what a perfect time, guys. Let's
Speaker 4: uh find out why the hell we're reading this book, Johanna,
Speaker 4: can we find out? How do we? Who recommended this
Speaker 4: to us?
Speaker 2: This book is thanks to Miles May, And I just
Speaker 2: want to say that this is the absolute perfect book
Speaker 2: for me and book club. I feel like we have
Speaker 2: never had a recommendation that was so dead on in
Speaker 2: terms of horrible content, a bad author who might be
Speaker 2: a legitimately bad person, and a crazy amount of drama
Speaker 2: surrounding this book that is even more interesting than the
Speaker 2: poorly written book. So, Miles, I mean, for me, this
Speaker 2: is the best wreck we have ever received.
Speaker 4: Wow aho, Wow, that's big. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 4: Miles May, sounds like you know an actor model name,
Speaker 4: and I I'm just thrown that out there that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's an incredible name, a credible name.
Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time believing it's even real.
Speaker 3: Does sound sort of superhero?
Speaker 4: What did Miles say?
Speaker 2: So? Miles recommended handbook for mortals if You're not familiar.
Speaker 2: Now I'm beginning to quote if You're not familiar. This
Speaker 2: book rather infamously knocked The Hate You Give off of
Speaker 2: the number one spot on the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 2: By all accounts, the author essentially created her way onto
Speaker 2: the bestsellers list, and quite frankly, the fact that she
Speaker 2: was able to knock The Hate You Give off the
Speaker 2: top spot feels insulting. Even without that fact, it is
Speaker 2: one of the laziest and most poorly conceived young adult
Speaker 2: novels I have ever read in my life, and the
Speaker 2: author herself might be one of the most appropriative and
Speaker 2: racist glory hounds I've ever heard of, desperate to give
Speaker 2: give herself unearned fame and glory while not caring that
Speaker 2: she's drowning out the voices of I assume I cut
Speaker 2: something off of drowning out the voices of I'm Gonna say,
Speaker 2: actually women of color who were writing books that were
Speaker 2: on the New York Times bestseller list, that this book gives.
Speaker 3: A good idea.
Speaker 2: And she does this while describing herself with a term
Speaker 2: that is actually a slur for Romani people. As an aside,
Speaker 2: if the fact that this was an investigation into this
Speaker 2: novel's placement on the bestseller list eventually led to it
Speaker 2: being removed doesn't fit your qualifications, I understand and will
Speaker 2: recommend something else. Now, I will say I did not
Speaker 2: read that part until after we had selected this.
Speaker 4: Oh, I said it.
Speaker 2: But I do not feel that it it disqualifies the
Speaker 2: book at all. It was a New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 2: no matter how short a time, no matter how ill gotten,
Speaker 2: it was on the list.
Speaker 4: It was on the list. There's screenshots I.
Speaker 1: Prove it, like, yes, which is more than we can
Speaker 1: say for our book last That's true.
Speaker 4: That's true, it's certainly. And also learning a little bit
Speaker 4: about how how this whole story I know John is
Speaker 4: going to get into about how Lanny got it on
Speaker 4: the New York Times bestseller list. I don't doubt that
Speaker 4: we've read books that have employed similar means in the past,
Speaker 4: Like I don't doubt that we have.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine any offense.
Speaker 4: Well, perhaps perhaps this is the most drastic, but I
Speaker 4: just feel like I'm like, I think that she just
Speaker 4: went too hard. I think she was she you know,
Speaker 4: by knocking off the hate you give and becoming the note.
Speaker 4: Like if she came in at number ten, people will
Speaker 4: be like, oh, what's that book?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be right.
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like she just overplayed the hand.
Speaker 3: I will say an adult book.
Speaker 2: I will say for a fact that we do have
Speaker 2: another author that did this employ this exact tactic. Who
Speaker 2: do you think it was. I'll give you that hint.
Speaker 2: It was a self help book.
Speaker 4: It wasn't The Secret No, no, never had the word
Speaker 4: fuck in it or something. No.
Speaker 2: But it had a ghostwriter, but it was I'll give
Speaker 2: you another hint. This may narrow it down Brady quite
Speaker 2: a bit. Not Tom Brady. This person was the president
Speaker 2: of the United States. They are the president. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the part of the deal purchased its way on.
Speaker 4: I forget. I forgot we did that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah live even right?
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I think we did it for show.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, did we What is life?
Speaker 2: I don't really think we did it live. We did
Speaker 2: Deal Carnagie lived, We.
Speaker 3: Did the Art of the Deal live. It was Get
Speaker 3: the Pit.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, good for us. Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, good for us, good for us? All right,
Speaker 4: all right, So how did you guys consume this book?
Speaker 4: I think I might have an idea, since we had
Speaker 4: to all talk about it beforehand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say I tried really hard to find it
Speaker 1: at the library, at another library, on Amazon, in bookstores,
Speaker 1: and eventually I found a PDF online. And I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not convinced that I did read the book, because I
Speaker 1: know it was so bad that I just like can't
Speaker 1: believe that it was the book.
Speaker 4: I agree. We didn't go to the Wizarding conventions. She
Speaker 4: claimed to sell them out, and that was part of
Speaker 4: the issue, I'm sure. But I I had this PDF
Speaker 4: that you sent, Sabrina. Thank God for it. I hate.
Speaker 4: I did not want to read the pdf. I read
Speaker 4: some of it and I said, I can't do this.
Speaker 4: I needed audio and I had to find an app,
Speaker 4: do a free trial, some app that would read the
Speaker 4: book to me in a computer voice.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I did. I did. Yeah, I know it. I
Speaker 4: think it maybe made it worse speechify I downloaded speech.
Speaker 2: It couldn't have made it worse, Sarah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was pretty bad, but that's how I did. Clara,
Speaker 4: what are you gonna say?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I somehow meant like I had a memory of
Speaker 3: Sabrina texting the PDF, but then when I went to
Speaker 3: find it, I like accidentally downloaded the joke one that
Speaker 3: was about.
Speaker 4: To remind fuck this.
Speaker 3: So I had enough credits. You know how with Amazon
Speaker 3: you can be like, Okay, I'll wait a few days,
Speaker 3: and it gives you a credit for ebook. So I
Speaker 3: use my credit to get it, and I'm sort of
Speaker 3: glad I did. Because now so I like use credits
Speaker 3: to buy it from Amazon as a kindle for kindle book,
Speaker 3: and I'm sort of glad it did because I know
Speaker 3: that this is the official book. This is a weird
Speaker 3: quote one quotation mark in the middle of the page.
Speaker 3: It's just part of the book. Like I had just
Speaker 3: done a free PDF, I would have assumed that was
Speaker 3: some sort of pirting issue issue. Yeah, that is just
Speaker 3: the book.
Speaker 1: Wow, Or like that you didn't follow up text and
Speaker 1: try to get I was just.
Speaker 3: Like, I must have missed. I must have made a mistake.
Speaker 4: Now what she did it, we still were able to
Speaker 4: consume the book without paying for it, but also we
Speaker 4: would have maybe paid for it had it been possible,
Speaker 4: like I couldn't even I.
Speaker 2: Would have accidentally paid for it. So i'm and i'm
Speaker 2: I've never been more glad I didn't pay for.
Speaker 3: A book than yeah.
Speaker 2: And that the library doesn't even carry it, Like good
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not crazy, it's.
Speaker 3: How did our library know that? Like who read it
Speaker 3: and told the library?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: How did the library know this wasn't a real book?
Speaker 4: I don't think the library ever had this book. I
Speaker 4: think that they was never never, just never was there? Jana?
Speaker 4: Are you doing you doing? Janna jabs about the book?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I actually I swear this wasn't just
Speaker 2: to be lazy, because look at the outline. I did
Speaker 2: a lot of work, Okay, a lot, I see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to read the summary right off of
Speaker 2: Wikipedia because it was so funny, Like, you don't need
Speaker 2: me to gussie this up for you. This is the
Speaker 2: official she'll like on Wikipedia if you look for this
Speaker 2: book summary. Okay, okay, okay, any idea how to pronounce
Speaker 2: her full name? So the main character's name is Zaid.
Speaker 4: I know it's not it doesn't end in zaide because
Speaker 4: I feel like the way you say that name or
Speaker 4: I read somebody be like it doesn't make sense because
Speaker 4: the full name. So, the full name is pronounced differently
Speaker 4: than this nickname.
Speaker 2: Her name is s c h e H e r
Speaker 2: A z A D. So I'm gonna just pronounce that
Speaker 2: how I think.
Speaker 4: It is here sure Shahara's odd Shaharazad.
Speaker 2: Okay summary from Wikipedia. The novel follows the adventures of
Speaker 2: Shaharazad Zadi esther Holder, a twenty five year old woman
Speaker 2: who comes from a family of folk magic practitioners in
Speaker 2: a small Tennessee town. She leaves home to join a
Speaker 2: Las Vegas troop of eccentric stage magicians, where she forges
Speaker 2: romantic connections with several men, including Carrot Top, and relishes
Speaker 2: in how many men quote constantly fawn over her. The
Speaker 2: one exception is zeb Zeb, a magician with whom she
Speaker 2: is at odds. Despite her allure to men, Zadi questions
Speaker 2: the prospects of a quote mixed relationship with a mortal
Speaker 2: and fails to get along with Sophia, one of the
Speaker 2: female performers whom she calls ugly during a magic show, Zaid,
Speaker 2: what was I saying?
Speaker 4: Zadi Zady? Okay?
Speaker 1: During a magic show.
Speaker 2: Jade Zaid performs a stunning illusion, but then falls into
Speaker 2: a coma after exerting herself without her anchor and lover, Mac,
Speaker 2: a fellow performer who suspected that Zadie was having an
Speaker 2: elicit affair with the elderly head stage magician, Charles Spelman.
Speaker 2: This has proven to be false, particularly as Zaid discovers
Speaker 2: that Charles is actually her father. Oh my god, it is.
Speaker 4: I feel like she must have written it, because it's
Speaker 4: written the same way the book is written.
Speaker 2: So I think that as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, if it were written the same way the book
Speaker 1: is written, that last sentence would read. This is proven
Speaker 1: to be false, particularly as Zaid discovers that Charles is
Speaker 1: actually her long lost father, which means that he was
Speaker 1: her father.
Speaker 2: She looked at herself in the mirror, and her vibrant
Speaker 2: green eyes flicked back at her. I'm not like the
Speaker 2: other girls, she said.
Speaker 1: To herself in the mirror. Every piece of information you got,
Speaker 1: you heard the same exact words twice.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, no, And she uses idioms and then
Speaker 4: like uh, explains what idiom, like the idiom means, but
Speaker 4: not like in a clever, funny way. It's always just
Speaker 4: it's just like incredible. It's like they're they're idioms because
Speaker 4: like idiots get them, like you don't need to explain them.
Speaker 4: Like she's just like she's just going And I don't
Speaker 4: know who told her she needed to hit that word
Speaker 4: count because it was it was long. Yeah, like it
Speaker 4: didn't need to be that long.
Speaker 2: Can I give you I know we're not here yet,
Speaker 2: but can I give you my favorite example of her
Speaker 2: needing to explain a joke because it's so incredible? Yes, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rev up to it because you just need
Speaker 2: to get a sense of the writing of this book too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, they're sleeping, beauty Cam said softly, after lightly touching
Speaker 2: my shoulder and sitting down next to me. By the way,
Speaker 2: the context here is she's like it's her first day.
Speaker 4: Of work and she was not falling asleep.
Speaker 2: But yeah, at work, Okay, looks like you met everyone
Speaker 2: that works here today. The line to say hello to
Speaker 2: you after your performance resembled in autographed signing by.
Speaker 4: A boy band.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what the latest one is but
Speaker 2: Backstreet five directions, one second of Winter ninety eight, Celsiuso
Speaker 2: City and sink boys or old Kids on a curb
Speaker 2: or something like that. I laughed hard at his combo
Speaker 2: of wrong boy band names and his clear indication that
Speaker 2: he knew all the boy bands, Sami Colon, he purposely
Speaker 2: had made the small wrong switches in their names.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: God, that was a good one he purposely had made,
Speaker 2: he says Grice. I want to puncher.
Speaker 1: I have so many quotes from this book though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I think it should just be a
Speaker 2: quote fast.
Speaker 4: It probably could be a quote best, because it is
Speaker 4: just like amazing, like we can give you these. I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess I'm like, did the summary tell you what happened?
Speaker 4: Kind of like, because.
Speaker 3: Not much happens mentioned that she's a witch.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's from a family of fault magic
Speaker 4: with a K, but for some reason, it's not spelled
Speaker 4: that way in the Wikipedia. Yeah, so basically, wait, where
Speaker 4: are we in this in our outline?
Speaker 2: We we have not even gone through the book yet.
Speaker 4: All right, let's let I'm we're jumping ahead. Let's go, Johnna,
Speaker 4: what's the wine? Parent.
Speaker 2: So I I'm going with kind of a mix here
Speaker 2: of one thing from folk magic Homie and then one
Speaker 2: thring thing from Vegas. So for the folk magic practitioners,
Speaker 2: we've got Natalie's carrot ginger turmeric apple juice, which feels
Speaker 2: like it's something that will help activate my magical witch powers.
Speaker 3: And then for Natalie juice it's good.
Speaker 2: It was six dollars, Clara, it's expensive, was it for good?
Speaker 2: I bought a gallon of milk as well and it
Speaker 2: was only five It felt like milk sky.
Speaker 3: And then that has a nice orange color. And one
Speaker 3: of the times that you were drinking and just out
Speaker 3: of the corner of my eyes thought you were emptying
Speaker 3: on a pill bottle on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gives your lips a nice like pinky glow too,
Speaker 2: like natural. So that's very yeah, if you want to
Speaker 2: look like really nice and have like a peachy orange lip.
Speaker 4: Then for the.
Speaker 2: Vegas side we're having it's called the black Stump Charras
Speaker 2: and it's just the wine that I had open, But
Speaker 2: I do think the name's kind of fun. The black stump.
Speaker 3: Okay, it does sound like poison made from a black stump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So put all this you could take a little
Speaker 2: sip of your orange drink, okay, and a little sip
Speaker 2: of your wine.
Speaker 4: That's usually how drinks. Bartender serve your drinks. Just have
Speaker 4: a few and take a few tips of each of you.
Speaker 1: Here there, back and forth, and you're good to go.
Speaker 4: Switch them around, mix them like a mortal and a magic.
Speaker 2: Person, like a wine and a cherry coke.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's normal. And people we did this conversation forgot
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: It's not the last week Sarah had wine and chery
Speaker 3: coke had angered Johanna. Yeah, I want to try it.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I forgot about it.
Speaker 4: Do you guys know there's a new coke with orange?
Speaker 4: Have you guys started orange cream? I haven't tried it?
Speaker 4: Pretty good, I thought it's pretty good. I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to try it. I mean, who doesn't like
Speaker 3: a creamsicle?
Speaker 4: Exactly? I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: Johnny, you were just drinking a creamsicle practically.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's orange.
Speaker 3: John You had a choice between a creamsicle and nothing.
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing, really insane, This is true insane.
Speaker 2: I would rather never have deserted to get my entire life.
Speaker 4: What then, ever?
Speaker 2: Have one creamsicle?
Speaker 3: Did you like throw up a creamsicle?
Speaker 4: But you like orange? Do you like vanilla?
Speaker 2: I like vanilla?
Speaker 4: Do you like ice cream? Some?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go crazy.
Speaker 4: This is an adding up. This isn't adding up.
Speaker 3: I'm getting mad.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you ever had creamsicle.
Speaker 2: And orange drink, so I must love creamsickle. Okay, stop
Speaker 2: putting me in your box.
Speaker 3: Creamsicle tastes good. That's what.
Speaker 4: We thought you might like to enjoy something for what
Speaker 4: season of life? All right?
Speaker 2: I have a long list of things that I would
Speaker 2: rather never have blank again than have to have that
Speaker 2: version of it, Like kettle chips, for example, I'd rather
Speaker 2: never have tap chips to get in my life than
Speaker 2: have to eat kettle chips.
Speaker 1: Well, those cut the top of your mouth, Yeah they're stupid.
Speaker 2: Public specific Well, kettle chips have never cut the top
Speaker 2: of my mouth, so I don't have to scream. Maybe
Speaker 2: I have a more delicate palette than you. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's a grip.
Speaker 1: It you rip off the roof of my mouth, both
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 4: Pot I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I forgot about old ramshackle palette like yours
Speaker 2: that I could just put.
Speaker 4: Anything in my dick sucking palette shot up.
Speaker 3: And she forces us to move.
Speaker 2: I can't even respond, Okay, the book, the book, but
Speaker 2: there's so much to say, Like, there's so much to say. Okay.
Speaker 2: This book received attention for its New York Times bestseller
Speaker 2: status in twenty seventeen, which right away people are like,
Speaker 2: this is so weird because you can't buy it in
Speaker 2: a store and you cannot buy it on Amazon on
Speaker 2: so and the author had never published before, and there
Speaker 2: was no buzz about the book. So basically, this author,
Speaker 2: Phil Stamper, great name for an author. We already know
Speaker 2: that you like the fixings of books and things that
Speaker 2: are related to paper. He showed that the book's placement
Speaker 2: was achieved through manipulations such as unusual bulk ordering, and
Speaker 2: I want to say, I looked into it and it
Speaker 2: was extra sneaky because basically, if a bookstore like Barnes
Speaker 2: and Noble receives an order for more than thirty of
Speaker 2: the same book, it's considered like a bulk order, and
Speaker 2: they don't report it to the New York Times. But
Speaker 2: if they receive less than thirty or like thirty or under,
Speaker 2: then that's just counts as a sale. So basically someone
Speaker 2: was going around to like me, yeah, definitely, all of
Speaker 2: the Barnes and Nobles in New York City, for example,
Speaker 2: an order was played for thirty copies of this book
Speaker 2: and did that like all over the country, so that
Speaker 2: every one of these little mini ball orders was reported
Speaker 2: as a sale.
Speaker 4: I also heard that she was calling like ahead, she
Speaker 4: would like call and be like, do you report because
Speaker 4: not everyone reports New York Times, so she would like
Speaker 4: first be like, do you guys report your book sales
Speaker 4: team times? And if they did, then she would put
Speaker 4: the order in. That was like, and so did Shander
Speaker 4: pay for it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it gets so spicy from here, Okay. She
Speaker 2: had somehow, along with the publication of the books, arranged
Speaker 2: a deal where as long as the book became a
Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller, it was going to be produced
Speaker 2: and made into a film. So I didn't know that
Speaker 2: this early investment in her mind of like shelling out
Speaker 2: for these books was like, it's okay, because the whole
Speaker 2: point is that we're going to sell the film rights.
Speaker 2: And guess who's going to play the lead role.
Speaker 4: It's land Lee, Lady Lanny whatever.
Speaker 2: Lanny is.
Speaker 4: In the.
Speaker 1: Blake Lively.
Speaker 2: That'd be incredible if only she cast herself as the
Speaker 2: heroine who will soon learn is the most beautiful woman
Speaker 2: who has ever set foot on earth, and I love
Speaker 2: And she's also twenty five Okay.
Speaker 4: I think lady's a little older than that.
Speaker 2: So not only was the book fraudulently put on the
Speaker 2: New York Times Bestseller, the cover art was also plagiarized
Speaker 2: from a book called The Knife Thrower three. It appeared
Speaker 2: to have been traced over and recolored. The author stated, so,
Speaker 2: once the book goes on the New York Times Bestseller
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, what the hell is happening, she goes, well,
Speaker 2: I sold five thousand copies of the novel on my website,
Speaker 2: and thirteen thousand cops these through appearances at wizard World
Speaker 2: at people found this really it's basically a like comic
Speaker 2: con convention. And people found this unusual because even the
Speaker 2: most prolific authors such as George R. R. Martin would
Speaker 2: only sell hundreds of copies of their novels at a
Speaker 2: comic con convention of comic con, So to say you
Speaker 2: sold thirteen thousand copies and George R. R. Martin sold
Speaker 2: like for you.
Speaker 4: Did you see how she said, like why she claimed
Speaker 4: she was? She like doubled down and was like, I
Speaker 4: was able to sell these because I was selling them
Speaker 4: at this famous actor's booth who everybody wanted his you know,
Speaker 4: no sing sure, and it was oh my god, Thomas
Speaker 4: Ian Nicholas, who, of course you guys all know might
Speaker 4: want to do a little goog right now because you don't.
Speaker 4: He was in Rookie of the Year and The American
Speaker 4: Pie and I don't think anything else. Oh I do recognize,
Speaker 4: but that she was claiming that he was. But apparently
Speaker 4: he is a part of this whole thing because she
Speaker 4: promised him I guess one of the roles in the
Speaker 4: movie that was definitely going to be made.
Speaker 1: But that makes me feel correct, doesn't make me feel
Speaker 1: so the year, Yeah, it was a great movie.
Speaker 3: And now he's so desperate to get into a movie
Speaker 3: that he'll get canned.
Speaker 4: Yeah pretty much. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The direct from her is that we published the book
Speaker 2: with the film rights already in place. It will start
Speaker 2: in the lead role yours truly, alongside my producer and
Speaker 2: co star Thomas. Yeah, that's it all goes well.
Speaker 4: So I don't think you that they actually worry he
Speaker 4: I don't think he's a big enough name to move
Speaker 4: that kind of those numbers.
Speaker 3: No, maybe if she maybe in the wizarding circles, maybe
Speaker 3: he bigger.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's funny because that has wizards. It's like, why
Speaker 4: is he even there? Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: New York Times did not think that he was big
Speaker 2: enough to move twenty thousand, because they did remove the
Speaker 2: book from the bestseller list.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Fair.
Speaker 2: I also fun little fact is that the author used
Speaker 2: to manage the band Blues Traveler and Blues Traveler band
Speaker 2: member John Popper Great Name commented on the media coverage
Speaker 2: and her prior employment with the band, stating that he
Speaker 2: found all of this and keeping with his experiences with her,
Speaker 2: and those experiences had led to her being fired.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've got to say that it is telling
Speaker 1: that a woman does this little self promotion and she
Speaker 1: gets canceled, and a man does it and he becomes
Speaker 1: pressed president.
Speaker 4: It's fair.
Speaker 2: I guess that's a good point.
Speaker 4: That's saying a lot of people, a lot of people
Speaker 4: do it. I think she just did it. She did
Speaker 4: it a little too hard.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think part of the problem, like maybe
Speaker 1: comparing art of the deal, right, like right, there are
Speaker 1: other good or good or bad? Like there's an audience
Speaker 1: for that book, and I'm just not sure the same
Speaker 1: is true of Handbook for Mortals?
Speaker 4: Can I can I read no audience for it? Excerpts
Speaker 4: from the Vulture article about it. Yeah, that's good because
Speaker 4: they interviewed her, so she's it, says adapting the screenplay
Speaker 4: was challenging. My grammar isn't always the greatest, she told me.
Speaker 4: Sarah had hired three different editors to help pull the
Speaker 4: book into shape. She took pains to make sure mirrored
Speaker 4: the script is as much as possible. According to a
Speaker 4: person who read both the scripts of the.
Speaker 2: Book, so she she originally wrote this as a screenplay,
Speaker 2: which we didn't. We left, and then she's like, actually
Speaker 2: it's a book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because somebody told her that books to TV move,
Speaker 4: which I've heard, you know, so she said. According to
Speaker 4: a person who read both the script and the book,
Speaker 4: Saram said she had promised Carrot Top apart in the film,
Speaker 4: therefore she had to include him in the book as well.
Speaker 4: Wait till you.
Speaker 2: Guys, I want to do the Carrot Top scene as
Speaker 2: an act out, and I actually scripted it out for us.
Speaker 4: Oh wonderful. Sorry, keep going, you keep going. I have
Speaker 4: another quote from that, but I will share. Go ahead,
Speaker 4: all right, I'll just do this one. So the writer
Speaker 4: of this article is. I asked Nicholas and Sarah if
Speaker 4: they felt discouraged by the recent uproar. Short answer, no.
Speaker 4: If I listened to the word no, I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: in the entertainment business for third one year, is said Nicholas,
Speaker 4: and then Sarah added, if we listen to people telling
Speaker 4: us no, women probably would not even have the right
Speaker 4: to vote.
Speaker 3: It's justificatione.
Speaker 4: So she's comparing herself to like what she's what she
Speaker 4: did was like women a suffragette suffragett. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: suffrage incredible, what a hero.
Speaker 2: A little more about the author my about the author section,
Speaker 2: because you know a lot already. I'm just including two
Speaker 2: bios that she clearly wrote for herself because I love
Speaker 2: it in her voice, it will tell the story the best.
Speaker 2: So this is her bio from Instagram. I spin stories
Speaker 2: and I'll act them out for you. I've made magic
Speaker 2: music and moving pictures. I am the girl next door
Speaker 2: dot dot dot if you live and never never land.
Speaker 4: God actually better written love that.
Speaker 2: I love it, and then her bio on Goodreads, which
Speaker 2: I'm also one hundred percent certain was written by her.
Speaker 2: Lannie Saram basically grew up in the entertainment industry. She
Speaker 2: began acting at age three and continued to perform through
Speaker 2: her early years. She began writing scripts when she was eleven.
Speaker 2: Over the years, she's become a jack of all trades
Speaker 2: in the entertainment business. She became a rock and roll
Speaker 2: gypsy at fifteen and started fans and working on festivals.
Speaker 2: She toured with everyone from Ryan Adams Canceled to Narls Barclay.
Speaker 2: She also became one of the youngest female managers in
Speaker 2: the business and managed bands like Plain White Teas, one
Speaker 2: hundred Monkeys and Blues Traveler, in which.
Speaker 4: She's also in. The books are all.
Speaker 2: And they also the guy from one hundred Monkeys and
Speaker 2: the guy from Blues Traveler both spoke out against her controversy.
Speaker 4: She has appeared in.
Speaker 2: Films like Mall Cup Too, Jason Bourne, and Trailer Bark
Speaker 2: Shark Handbook for Mortals is a debut novel of a
Speaker 2: series of books which are also being made into feature films.
Speaker 2: So It's gonna be a series of books and they
Speaker 2: are all of them being made into future films, And
Speaker 2: I want you to know. I went to her IMDb
Speaker 2: and I was like, is what's been going on? She
Speaker 2: says she's an actress. Like her current Instagram is like,
Speaker 2: I'm an actor. She was recently in something. And this
Speaker 2: is a little bit of an ask the author, but
Speaker 2: I want to do it right up top here because
Speaker 2: we're talking about her career in movies and stuff. So
Speaker 2: as recently as twenty twenty three, she acted in a movie.
Speaker 2: She played someone named Stacy, who I think is like
Speaker 2: a secondary character. I want you to guess the title
Speaker 2: based on the log line. Okay, young down on their
Speaker 2: luck couple settle for a cheap apartment that seems too
Speaker 2: good to be true. Little do they know something lurks
Speaker 2: in the drain of the bathtub, something that's thousands of
Speaker 2: years old and it is hungry.
Speaker 4: So wait, what are you asking us to get?
Speaker 2: I'm asking you what is the name of the movie
Speaker 2: that this jack of all trades Hollywood starlet is in
Speaker 2: as Stacy dre Now, Oh nice, really good.
Speaker 1: Tub creep, Tub creep.
Speaker 3: Creep is really good.
Speaker 2: That's good. Tails from the hair Monster, good Okay, I
Speaker 2: would say, I guess Sabrina is closest. The answer is
Speaker 2: movie that she is in is called Bathtub Shark Attack.
Speaker 3: It was a shark that threw me off with how
Speaker 3: old it was?
Speaker 4: Yeah, ancient shark and ancient pipes. This must have been
Speaker 4: around Shark Nado when they were like, let's just make
Speaker 4: everything be shark totally.
Speaker 3: What else could we put a shark?
Speaker 1: I don't know about After looking up pictures of her,
Speaker 1: the image of the woman on the cover of the
Speaker 1: book is clearly a stylized version of her.
Speaker 4: Right because she does the hair thing she yea at
Speaker 4: the bottom. Wow.
Speaker 1: Before we get into the book book can did anybody
Speaker 1: else read the foreword?
Speaker 2: I did because I thought it was part of the book,
Speaker 2: and it was so fucking pissed that I read the
Speaker 2: four What else I'll say is I think it might
Speaker 2: have been worse than the book. Really, really, it was
Speaker 2: so bad.
Speaker 1: It was like this author thought it was a time
Speaker 1: to talk about themselves by the author, I mean, like
Speaker 1: the person writing the foreword, and it like starts out
Speaker 1: of like how they met and how they didn't know
Speaker 1: how to pronounce Lanny's name at first, and they go
Speaker 1: through a couple of different iterations of what they thought
Speaker 1: might be the pronunciation, and then it's it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I typically don't like books of this style, but Lanny
Speaker 1: asked me to read it, and I told her that
Speaker 1: I thought that I liked this more than other books
Speaker 1: of this genre that I had read before, and I
Speaker 1: actually personally have written incredible books, and I'm really excited
Speaker 1: that you get to hear my voice in this forward.
Speaker 4: The end is that her? Was it her as well?
Speaker 4: Someone else? Guy? Who's that?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is a quote I told Lanny. Yeah, Lanny,
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed this book far more than other books
Speaker 1: of the genre that i've exploded exploded. No that that oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: explored I can't read that have exploded.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: That wasn't idle talk or a friend telling another friend
Speaker 1: something nice so as to not hurt their feelings. It
Speaker 1: was real and it was honest. Like that's so dumb.
Speaker 2: It is like most book reviews are fake, and I
Speaker 2: know that, and I just want you to know that
Speaker 2: even though this one seems fake, it's real.
Speaker 1: I gave her my thoughts on the plot, characters, and
Speaker 1: important points, and that was that he didn't read.
Speaker 2: This person also left a five star Goodreads review, one
Speaker 2: of the few I did you know? I had to
Speaker 2: find my five star Goodreads reviews that they were like seven.
Speaker 2: They're like seven.
Speaker 4: Good. Well, I look forward to that. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, you just let me know when we're ready
Speaker 1: for me to read seven hundred quotes from this book.
Speaker 2: I guess let's get into it, like I, yeah, however,
Speaker 2: you I think this should just be a quote fest
Speaker 2: because it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm I'm totally happy to kick it off.
Speaker 3: I have one question before, who was making this into
Speaker 3: a feature film?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Where did she get this deal?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: That's a good question that did not come up. And
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was like the way like it
Speaker 2: was like step one of getting a movie made in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: which is like you had a conversation with a producer
Speaker 2: that didn't say no.
Speaker 4: I'm I just did Google. AI tells me, okay that
Speaker 4: Chris Kenner, who worked on David Copperfield, will produce, So
Speaker 4: I don't That's the only name other than like the
Speaker 4: Thomas and Nicholas was mentioned. So I don't really feel
Speaker 4: like this was very This was like a real deal.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like Netflix said if it's no.
Speaker 4: I feel like they were just like, hey, so and
Speaker 4: so who has money said that they would give us
Speaker 4: money to make this film.
Speaker 2: I think that's all that they Yeah, this feels like
Speaker 2: my neighbor is Maggie Jillenhall, and I put my script.
Speaker 4: In her mail.
Speaker 2: Baw, I know she's gonna make the movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She said if it's a New York Times bestseller, she'll
Speaker 2: make the movie.
Speaker 4: It's like somebody was like, this will not what happens,
Speaker 4: I'll say this yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: Said when pigs fly, So I keep throwing.
Speaker 2: That said Kieran Coulkin's little acceptance speech where he said
Speaker 2: my wife, oh yeah, that we would have four kids
Speaker 2: if I ever won an Oscar. He was like, well, well,
Speaker 2: well I guess you just won an oscar. It was
Speaker 2: pretty fun.
Speaker 4: It was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Clara, did you not see it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Do you know who Kiaren Colkin is?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know Kieren Coulkin is.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think it's Macaulay Culkin?
Speaker 3: No, it's his little brother.
Speaker 2: Good, yeah, Okay, Karen's name Sarah.
Speaker 4: Were for Karen Calkin. This is the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his acceptance teach was really good and cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1: It was really He was like, I have to tell
Speaker 1: a story, and I have. I told my wife that
Speaker 1: she was I told her I wanted three kids when
Speaker 1: I won the last award. She said I could have
Speaker 1: three kids, and then I was like, I actually want four,
Speaker 1: and she was like, win an oscar And he was like,
Speaker 1: and I haven't brought it up until this exact time.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: It was great, Yeah, she wants four kids to it,
Speaker 1: didn't she didn't?
Speaker 2: She said no, And I guess a lot she is
Speaker 2: bearing the brunt of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's pretty cool to have
Speaker 4: that kind of success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's anything.
Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely really soon, really really really soon, because
Speaker 4: we all now have the confidence to write a book
Speaker 4: that will become a bestseller because we read this book.
Speaker 4: Let's go quotes, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: It starts out, let's go see down, let's go round
Speaker 2: robin like boom.
Speaker 1: Boom boo boo ohkow. This is when she's describing where
Speaker 1: she's from. She says, it's a little called town center
Speaker 1: called Center Town. Yeah, it's about an hour or so
Speaker 1: outside of Nashville, smack dab in the middle of the state,
Speaker 1: hence the overly obvious name center Town. Just want to
Speaker 1: reiterate that, she said the name twice, like it's Center Town.
Speaker 1: It's obvious because it's in the center Center Town.
Speaker 2: Clara, Okay, I just had Okay.
Speaker 3: It was a big, heavy door that made a hard
Speaker 3: pounding noise when it shut. I don't think pounding means
Speaker 3: boom boom, boom boom, You know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a couple of descriptions of of Zaide
Speaker 2: or Zadi. Can I give a Can I give a couple?
Speaker 2: According to my Sunday the reading the Robot as like
Speaker 2: these are all within the same like chapter. I'm not kidding,
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Okay, Mike, my perfectly cut bang stayed
Speaker 2: unaffected by the wind.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: My favorite highwaisted Levi's dark denim skinny jeans, ripped in
Speaker 2: all the right places, made a swishing noise as I
Speaker 2: lifted my legs, and my perfect flowy Lucky's top that
Speaker 2: I wear far too often billowed around me. I rarely
Speaker 2: think this, but I wish a photographer I had taken
Speaker 2: my picture at that moment, as the outfit and the background,
Speaker 2: and I may have pretduced a cool looking photo. We
Speaker 2: need to be explained to why she would think she
Speaker 2: needed her picture take it. It's not just that she
Speaker 2: thinks she should have her picture taken, which is so arrogant,
Speaker 2: but also because my outfit and the background and I
Speaker 2: people tell me I'm pretty all the time, beautiful, even
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what they see. I think I'm more
Speaker 2: of a cute girl. I'm slender, but I do not
Speaker 2: believe I would be what most people would call skinny,
Speaker 2: not hot girl, skinny at least. I mean, I have
Speaker 2: long legs that are toned, but I think my thighs
Speaker 2: are a little large my favorite. Due to my dyslexia,
Speaker 2: I could write things perfectly but backwards.
Speaker 4: What a cool I am just trying to It's so
Speaker 4: hard to pick stuff. So this is also just to
Speaker 4: give people. Like the first chapter zero. Chapter zero opens
Speaker 4: with her being like, I'm leaving Nashville and my mother
Speaker 4: because they have a fight that is nonsensical, and like,
Speaker 4: I mean, we could honestly spend like an hour going
Speaker 4: over the first scene. I feel if we wanted to, don't,
Speaker 4: but we're not going to do. She ends up in
Speaker 4: Las Vegas. There's no explanation of why or how, and
Speaker 4: she's just auditioning for a big time magician. And that's
Speaker 4: most of it is after she is now in this
Speaker 4: magic show, and then it's some reason we're talking about
Speaker 4: a love triangle. Okay, Sabrina, go ahead, tell us where
Speaker 4: we are within the book. And pretty early on in
Speaker 4: the book, she's in her car.
Speaker 1: I turned on the radio right after I threw my
Speaker 1: car into drive, and the most appropriate song came blaring
Speaker 1: through the speakers of my car. It was the opening
Speaker 1: lyrics to the Dixie Chicks song Wide Open Spaces.
Speaker 4: That is the beginning.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but laugh, and how truly that was
Speaker 1: my anthem at the moment. I took a sign that
Speaker 1: I was doing the right thing as I drove away
Speaker 1: and sang along to the song, which she then proceeds
Speaker 1: to give all the lyrics to.
Speaker 4: She had to pay for that.
Speaker 2: She had to pay for that, right. I don't think so.
Speaker 4: No, I think you still have to pay. I feel
Speaker 4: like she had to. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was fucking crazy word count.
Speaker 4: Okay. I'm also to explain why it related to her
Speaker 4: so stupid. Okay. So this is this is a quote.
Speaker 4: These are quotes from like a little later. This is
Speaker 4: more just about the character because this is like her
Speaker 4: main love interest and she's being measured, I guess for
Speaker 4: And this is the first time that we're switched up POV.
Speaker 4: We're in her PREOV and then suddenly we switched to Mac.
Speaker 2: Because that's just something. Three quis away through a book and.
Speaker 4: It says he raised his hand to knock on the door,
Speaker 4: but as he clutched his fingers together and bought up
Speaker 4: his hand to make a fist, the door opened, just
Speaker 4: a crack. It hadn't been closed all the way. Mac
Speaker 4: could see Zade standing and nothing but her lace underwear
Speaker 4: and a brawl as Lil pulled a feasuring tape around
Speaker 4: her narrow waist. Both pieces were black and nude with
Speaker 4: lace trim in The pandies, which were a high waisted cut,
Speaker 4: framed Zaide's body nicely and showed off her curves and
Speaker 4: small waists. Little made a note on her pat of
Speaker 4: the measurement and moved down to Zade's hips. Under the
Speaker 4: bright light, Zaide's skin looked porcelain white. She was beautiful,
Speaker 4: She wasn't super model hot. There was something about her
Speaker 4: that just made her stand out. Mack couldn't quite put
Speaker 4: his finger on it, but there was something there. He
Speaker 4: tried to push the thoughts out of his head. He
Speaker 4: didn't want to like her. He couldn't like her. Zade
Speaker 4: was the enemy. We don't really know why at this point. Okay,
Speaker 4: he tried to repeat that to himself. He took a
Speaker 4: deep breath and kept telling himself he should just turn
Speaker 4: and walk away. He had forgotten why he was even
Speaker 4: standing in front of the wardrobe door. He had something
Speaker 4: to do with Zaid in our first day, but he
Speaker 4: couldn't remember anything beyond that now. Mac was just not
Speaker 4: the kind of guy to just forget things, and it
Speaker 4: made him frustrated that looking at her seemed to do
Speaker 4: it too him. Despite the frustration with himself, he still
Speaker 4: stood there staring for quite a while. Sorry, he's basically
Speaker 4: this love as like the biggest creep in the world.
Speaker 4: I don't know I.
Speaker 2: Multiple times in the book, she complains that her skin
Speaker 2: is too white and it's just like Jesus Christ Lady Girl,
Speaker 2: especially considering that this book bought its way onto the
Speaker 2: best seller list to push the hate you give off, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and another book by a woman of color off the
Speaker 2: list entirely. It's just like, I'm so white under these
Speaker 2: bright lights.
Speaker 3: I like, even the start of that quote was like
Speaker 3: what he did? What he clutched his fingers together and
Speaker 3: made a fist. Oh, knocking on the door.
Speaker 4: She does describe things like an alien like it's like,
Speaker 4: there's a simple way to say these things, but you're
Speaker 4: choosing the longest round. Yeah, it's part of my brain.
Speaker 4: There were so many times where I was like, and
Speaker 4: this might have been not because I was doing my
Speaker 4: invented audiobook, but I was like, wait, what's happening here?
Speaker 4: What just happened? Like they're just talking about like a feeling,
Speaker 4: but there must have been information that was given, and
Speaker 4: I had to go back and back and it was
Speaker 4: just like rambling nonsense for pages and pages.
Speaker 1: There's way too much information in some respects and so
Speaker 1: not enough clothes. There's not like like the start of
Speaker 1: it where it was like the door was cracked. It
Speaker 1: hadn't been closed the whole way. We didn't think that
Speaker 1: there was a big check through it that it had
Speaker 1: been like cracked, like someone took it to the door.
Speaker 2: Also, it's this book that is about like magic and
Speaker 2: Las Vegas and performing in this like incredible show. And
Speaker 2: chapter three starts this is This is a direct quote
Speaker 2: the first second of chapter three. It took about a
Speaker 2: week for human resources to process my paper an employee. Okay,
Speaker 2: I had to do a background check. Worked out well
Speaker 2: for me though, because I had to find an apartment.
Speaker 2: Luckily the first week I was allowed to stay at
Speaker 2: a hotel. I also got some furniture. Jesus Christ. I
Speaker 2: need to escape these things. I don't need to hear
Speaker 2: about the difficult legistic Okay's cross country move.
Speaker 4: But in her defense, the first chapter with her fighting
Speaker 4: with her mom is all about how like you read cards,
Speaker 4: people think we're weird because of that. Uh, I want
Speaker 4: to be normal, and so now she's getting normal.
Speaker 1: This is normal. No, she's not normal, And nothing about
Speaker 1: the way she talks or things is normal.
Speaker 4: This is her.
Speaker 1: This is her description. It's her and Mac. So Mac
Speaker 1: kept incessantly tapping his sharpie on the side of his
Speaker 1: clipboard and shifting his weight between his feet. I stood
Speaker 1: up slowly and calculated looking him square in the eye,
Speaker 1: which probably surprised him a bit since he was at
Speaker 1: least six feet tall. I've always enjoyed the luxury of
Speaker 1: being a tall girl and five foot nine inches inches,
Speaker 1: and so while I don't usually tower above any guys
Speaker 1: I know, I can definitely look them directly in the eye.
Speaker 1: I'll say it a second time. Most girls who at
Speaker 1: five feet five inches parentheses, which I believe is average
Speaker 1: height for a woman to look up like, So that's great. Also,
Speaker 1: if you are five nines, you are not looking someone
Speaker 1: who is six feet tall square in the eye.
Speaker 3: It's like she explains it, but she doesn't interesting does
Speaker 3: so she understands it for the people who are five
Speaker 3: to five.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this is another just like kind of like
Speaker 4: descriptor this is later I guess in there camping or
Speaker 4: some shit I don't even remember. But he goes. She
Speaker 4: says she's describing what Mac is wearing, which also I
Speaker 4: should say, there's a cam which is just Mac cackwards,
Speaker 4: And I was like, why the fuck the.
Speaker 2: Same zeb Mac? Yeah, why would you have two Z names?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all bland. If she's dyslexic and only reads
Speaker 1: things backwards, like is Cam Mac?
Speaker 4: I think it was.
Speaker 2: I think it was always always, and then she yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree, because Cam was hot anyway.
Speaker 4: So there's a long I always don't even I guess
Speaker 4: I'll just read it. Mac had on a slightly puffy
Speaker 4: jacket with the collar turned up, and he looked rather
Speaker 4: abercrombing Fitch leaned up against the tree. I realized this
Speaker 4: was the first time I'd seen him outside of his
Speaker 4: work attire, his standard black diggies and black buttoned down
Speaker 4: his show blacks. She's describing what he's not wearing, or
Speaker 4: his occasional car arts, if he was doing something more
Speaker 4: mechanical that day. Instead, he was wearing fitted Levi jeans
Speaker 4: with the bottoms of the leg slightly rolled up, and
Speaker 4: a long sleeved red blue and yellow linen plaid shirt.
Speaker 4: Earlier in the day, I noticed that he had the
Speaker 4: plaid shirt unbuttoned, showing a white ribbed fing a shirt underneath.
Speaker 4: In the South, these types of white undershirts are called
Speaker 4: wife beaters. It's a horrible name for anything, really, but
Speaker 4: especially a shirt. Though in every movie I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: the redneck wife beater wears one and without a doubt.
Speaker 4: You call it that and people instantly know what kind
Speaker 4: of shirt you are speaking about.
Speaker 2: A movie is like a TV show, but you see
Speaker 2: it on a big screen with other people around. Other
Speaker 2: people are other humans. Other humans are the beings that
Speaker 2: live on Earth.
Speaker 3: At the end, just you say it and people know it's.
Speaker 4: A word you say.
Speaker 2: It needs no further explanation.
Speaker 4: It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Quick one.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, uh okay.
Speaker 3: So she's at the mall. She needed to get more
Speaker 3: clothes because malls quickly make me tired and cranky. Quickly
Speaker 3: figure that deserves lemonade. I've got another quick one, Editors,
Speaker 3: this is why I'm glad I don't have a free PDF, because.
Speaker 1: I know that this was what she want it is.
Speaker 1: It's really like I think if if you told me
Speaker 1: that she was a lemon when she wrote this, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, job. I wouldn't even think she did
Speaker 1: a great job.
Speaker 2: I would encourage the kid. I'd be like, I'm proud
Speaker 2: of finished a project. I wouldn't be like, yeah, what
Speaker 2: a writer. I'd be like, it's good to when you
Speaker 2: say you're going to do something, to do it good
Speaker 2: for you. Wait, I have to share more. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna die. They're so crazy. Yes, yes, she has. When
Speaker 2: she gets to the Las Vegas place to be part
Speaker 2: of the magic show, she gets a costumer who like
Speaker 2: her name is Lil, and she like does her outfits
Speaker 2: for her. This is her description of Lil. She continues
Speaker 2: to ramble on in her fast, chatty way, and pretty
Speaker 2: soon I tuned out the random gossip and focused on
Speaker 2: my reflection in the mirror. Okay. Then like minutes after that,
Speaker 2: Lil compliments her and is like, you did a good
Speaker 2: job in the show, and Zaide says, what do I
Speaker 2: say back? You measured me? Well, God, what do I
Speaker 2: say back to this person about their job? Oh, you
Speaker 2: were too stupid to perform, But I guess you used
Speaker 2: a ruler.
Speaker 4: Thank you be a humane, be a human. Oh but
Speaker 4: so that's part of it. Also, like how vaguely things are.
Speaker 4: Information is given to us about the fact that she's
Speaker 4: like not doing like her whole the whole shtick is that, oh,
Speaker 4: she's auditioning to do magic and she won't tell anyone
Speaker 4: how she did her tricks because she's actually using real magic.
Speaker 4: And it's kind of it's like a funny premise. I
Speaker 4: guess but it doesn't. It doesn't really sustain. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say no no.
Speaker 1: And it's also like, you know, if you're in a
Speaker 1: situation where you're in a group show and people are
Speaker 1: performing together, like those aren't typically the people that you
Speaker 1: hide the tricks from, uh right, the people their safety
Speaker 1: that need to know details like there are ohsha regulations
Speaker 1: and things like that which seemingly needlessly brings up.
Speaker 4: I read it that Lanie Laney lot with Lanny Lanney,
Speaker 4: you're just like Sky Turner. I am just like Skytner.
Speaker 4: Lannie briefly did work for at a magic show, and
Speaker 4: so I guess that's where she got her She must
Speaker 4: have made.
Speaker 3: She thought it was so novel that people wear show
Speaker 3: blacks and shows.
Speaker 2: This is something they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't perform constantly.
Speaker 2: They have dark days, and there are legal that run
Speaker 2: around behind the scenes. It's not just the performers on
Speaker 2: stage that are working.
Speaker 1: It is so crazy. It's like it's like the level
Speaker 1: of detail of like describing a magical world, because you
Speaker 1: have to do like this whole world building. It's like
Speaker 1: you have to tell us about vampires and where they
Speaker 1: come from because they aren't real and so we don't
Speaker 1: have this basis of information. But she's doing that for.
Speaker 4: The real world. Yes, but like accurate, we do this,
Speaker 4: we know for magical people who don't like live somewhere else.
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2: This is for this is a book about muggles for magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually a handbook.
Speaker 2: Wait, a handbook for wizards.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Did she do for?
Speaker 2: Holy shit?
Speaker 4: So this is genius?
Speaker 2: So this is actually hold on.
Speaker 4: Wait are we Is it the New York Times bestseller for?
Speaker 4: What is what is the Wizarding World bestseller list? Is
Speaker 4: it on? That?
Speaker 1: Is she magical?
Speaker 4: She does?
Speaker 3: She explains the magic a little bit, and I have
Speaker 3: a quote for that. Just hearing about I'm just talking
Speaker 3: about your guides. Your guides are the little voices that
Speaker 3: tell you to slow down or buy bread, or take
Speaker 3: notice of the cute guy in line in front of
Speaker 3: your guide.
Speaker 2: You know how your guide tells you that when they're
Speaker 2: not from driving into an intersection.
Speaker 4: She uses magic at like such random times, like making
Speaker 4: a tent, you know, like it's pretty barely the dumbest shit,
Speaker 4: it's very the dumbest shit.
Speaker 3: And then then you just make whatever you do whatever
Speaker 3: you want with magic.
Speaker 2: Always let's I mean, let's just define the rules. At
Speaker 2: the end, she also like tries a trick without her anchor,
Speaker 2: which is very dangerous, and she almost dies. And here's
Speaker 2: how she describes it. I felt my soul leaving my
Speaker 2: body like a feather drifting in the wind, except the
Speaker 2: wind was made of light and the feather was made
Speaker 2: of me. And that's good because when I read the
Speaker 2: part that was I found my soul leaving my body
Speaker 2: like a feather drifting in the wind.
Speaker 5: I was like, wait, are you the wind or are
Speaker 5: you the feather? Like which was your body and which
Speaker 5: one was your soul? Like does a feather field drifting?
Speaker 4: What's the feather made of? Are you the feather?
Speaker 2: And luckily then she did clarify because she knows that
Speaker 2: I was a morn.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god. So wa, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's just talking.
Speaker 1: She's talking about Mac. I grabbed my cell phone and
Speaker 1: thought about what I could I message him? Nothing, so
Speaker 1: we know she's got she's an Apple user.
Speaker 2: Okay, so strike against where my android head's at now
Speaker 2: get nowhere.
Speaker 1: Nothing great or clever or helpful was coming to mind.
Speaker 1: I finally picked a really sad looking emoji. Then the
Speaker 1: emoji is in the book and sentence. I waited a
Speaker 1: few seconds for it to go through to his phone,
Speaker 1: which I could see was sitting on the table in
Speaker 1: front of him. I knew he kept it on vibrate
Speaker 1: and never with an audible ring, but figured he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: He would hear it vibrate on the table and I
Speaker 1: would see it light up there.
Speaker 4: It went almost the setup makes you think, oh something,
Speaker 4: it's not going to turn on. It's definitely she's setting
Speaker 4: up that it's not going to happen the way you. Oh, okay,
Speaker 4: it happens.
Speaker 1: He looked at the light flash and picked it up.
Speaker 1: I watched him open my eye message and read it.
Speaker 1: I then saw him texting something back. I anxiously waited
Speaker 1: for my phone to go off and opened it to
Speaker 1: the eye message. It was. It was a slightly different
Speaker 1: emoji with no text to help me understand what he was.
Speaker 2: He was an alien, and I heard that I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't listen to this part, but I read someone
Speaker 4: say later that like the emoji itself was actually not
Speaker 4: something Apple, you can get it that is here.
Speaker 1: It's so true it's like it's like a crying ghost. Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on my background, put it by your face.
Speaker 4: Okay, put crying ghost is not not.
Speaker 2: I can't not.
Speaker 4: This is not.
Speaker 1: It's not an I message emoji.
Speaker 2: Can I tell a quick aside about me having an Android?
Speaker 2: Real quick? I know you guys like me about it
Speaker 2: and like literally.
Speaker 4: That this is you bullying yourself, So go ahead, Well
Speaker 4: no it's not.
Speaker 2: It's meeting bullied in the workplace, which feels like an
Speaker 2: HR violation. But like every day someone complains to me,
Speaker 2: like you have an Android.
Speaker 4: Okay, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like my little phone. And at work the other
Speaker 2: day we were talking about doing using like basically working
Speaker 2: with phones and like going to a you Fix It
Speaker 2: type store and someone's like, oh, there would be a
Speaker 2: lot of androids there. Those people that have androids don't
Speaker 2: even speak English, was eventually said in a meeting with
Speaker 2: like twenty people, and everyone in the room was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't even speak English. They won't understand, we won't
Speaker 2: be able to use Android us. And I was just
Speaker 2: sitting there. I'm so ashamed.
Speaker 1: It's that's like it was really not to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm insulted. No, not for you, but for
Speaker 3: the you know, it's like they might understand comedy, yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: speak English, they wouldn't understand comedy.
Speaker 4: Figure out yeah, maybe do some more. You know, what
Speaker 4: is it? The Blue Man Group type humor?
Speaker 2: So everyone can physical comedy. If you can make a
Speaker 2: baby laugh, you can make anybody laugh, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: They say this book uses the word et cetera. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's like, wait, I have a more piece of like
Speaker 2: drama gossip to share.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Zaide is, of course in a love triangle. She's
Speaker 2: trying to choose between mac or Cam or whatever his
Speaker 2: name was, and Jackson. Mac or Cam is like a stagehand,
Speaker 2: and Jackson is a singer, a guitarist in a band.
Speaker 4: In the plain white Tea, in a band she used
Speaker 4: to but here's the band.
Speaker 2: She was also the manager of a band called one
Speaker 2: hundred Monkeys, which was Jackson Wrathbone's band. So it appears
Speaker 2: that this is a very real fan fiction about the
Speaker 2: brown haired guitarist of one hundred Monkeys, Jackson, that she
Speaker 2: inserted herself into, changed his name, and then made him
Speaker 2: the lead guitarist of a different band that she managed.
Speaker 3: It she didn't change his name, she changed.
Speaker 2: It from Jackson Wrathbone to like Jackson miss or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, that is pretty.
Speaker 3: Didn't she did not change?
Speaker 1: Wow, it's really crazy to write yourself into fan fix
Speaker 1: about someone, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, very funny and also just like also
Speaker 4: we as you guys probably gotten that, Like every guy
Speaker 4: just is immediately in love with this character too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so she just has our pick of everyone. Jackson is
Speaker 4: like a nice guy who seems accepting he her eccentricity
Speaker 4: as well. I like the fact that she's into and
Speaker 4: her mom does card reading. I'm saying that card reading,
Speaker 4: Like that's what it's called Tara reading Tarot card Yeah,
Speaker 4: tarot cards. But like Cam mac Mac isn't there. I
Speaker 4: don't even understand, Like the it seemed pretty obvious that
Speaker 4: it was Mac over Jackson, but like she still hung
Speaker 4: out with them equally and would just be like, they're
Speaker 4: not asking questions. I guess they don't want to know
Speaker 4: who I'm picking, and would just go out with both
Speaker 4: of them and it was really boring. There was no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does is simply talk to hang out with
Speaker 3: two different guys. I don't know if there's even kissing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do anything.
Speaker 1: I kind of did have to trail off a bed
Speaker 1: at the end and get skim. H I had just
Speaker 1: skim a bit more, but I did catch that. After
Speaker 1: she did that, she did a big trick without her anchor,
Speaker 1: and she like lost all of her energy. She got
Speaker 1: really sick. They had to take her home to mom.
Speaker 1: There was a little confrontation between Mac and Charles because
Speaker 1: Mac thought that Charles was a part if this love triangle.
Speaker 4: He's the old main musician. When was it revealed that
Speaker 4: he was? I think I must have missed the reveal
Speaker 4: because was it was it much earlier or was it late?
Speaker 4: Like when did we find out that Charles was her father?
Speaker 4: I found out when Mac and he were talking at
Speaker 4: the Okay, all right, that's was that it? Okay. I
Speaker 4: was like certain that I had missed it earlier because
Speaker 4: like it seems so weird for it. Also it makes
Speaker 4: it funny her auditioning for she's just auditioning for her dad.
Speaker 4: It's like the stakes are so low. I don't know
Speaker 4: yet she.
Speaker 1: Knew she had found out. No, but then okay, so
Speaker 1: then they have to go back to Tennessee and the
Speaker 1: mother tells Mac that he has to staber in the heart.
Speaker 4: Oh, write like an epi pen, but it's don't worry,
Speaker 4: it's like an EpiPen for energy or something. She described
Speaker 4: it in the weirdest way. I can't yeah, and also
Speaker 4: that yes, and but but before he could do it,
Speaker 4: I think the mother had to tell her life story
Speaker 4: that happened just prior. Was like, sit down, you must
Speaker 4: know this before you do it. And then also I
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong everyone. It had to happen
Speaker 4: at three am, when the church bells told at three am,
Speaker 4: which is a traditional time you usually hear church bells
Speaker 4: making a loud sounds.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This part of the book was also so crazily written
Speaker 1: because it was like she said, she personally lost.
Speaker 4: Memory of all. She's like out, she's unconscious, so it was.
Speaker 1: What was recounted to her. But then she's just like
Speaker 1: she's telling you what was recounted to her. It was
Speaker 1: like so it was like the author had heard show,
Speaker 1: don't tell, but heard tell, Tell, Tell Tell.
Speaker 4: But also like you've had character, you've switched point of views,
Speaker 4: like just switch point of views. I don't understand why
Speaker 4: she was like no, it must be told from the
Speaker 4: POV of the incin just person, as though they were
Speaker 4: watching every black and that nothing.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's quiet.
Speaker 2: I am unconscious, crazy.
Speaker 4: Wow, what a what a book?
Speaker 3: On page fifty five, there's just a stray quotation mark,
Speaker 3: don't I don't know. Our pages probably don't line up,
Speaker 3: but there's just I look, yeah, there's no of course,
Speaker 3: there's no quotation mark before or after several.
Speaker 2: Pages, several pages. Can we do an act out please?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I want to drive everyone's attention back to the beginning
Speaker 2: of the pod, whenever we learned that someone had promised
Speaker 2: Carrot Top or roll should the movie ever be made.
Speaker 2: So there is a scene where Zaide meets Carrot Top
Speaker 2: in the mall, and I verbatim transcribed the scene. Nothing. Okay,
Speaker 2: there is not one single word that has been added.
Speaker 2: This is only what is in the book. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what. Moving from book to screenplay not difficult,
Speaker 2: so it would have been an easy adaptation. So I
Speaker 2: need someone to read stage directions. I need someone to
Speaker 2: read Zaid, I need someone to read Carrot Top, and
Speaker 2: I need someone to read inexplicably Wayne Newton.
Speaker 4: I'll do za Okay, I'll do Wayne Newton.
Speaker 3: Great, I'll do Carrot Top.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will do stage directions. Okay, are we all there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fade in interior shopping mall day, a busy, well lit
Speaker 2: shopping mall. The hum of chatter and distant store music
Speaker 2: fills the air. Zade walks alone, scanning the passing shoppers.
Speaker 2: Two vaguely familiar looking men walk towards her. She squints,
Speaker 2: trying to place them as they near. Of course, Carrot
Speaker 2: Top and Wayne Newton, both grinning, come to a stop.
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, you two are the last people I'd expect
Speaker 4: to see walking through a mall together.
Speaker 1: Charity event just wrapped up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, before you got Here's some guy asked
Speaker 3: Wayne when he started dating Riba.
Speaker 2: McIntyre gestures to himself, Ugh, that's amazing. You guys coming
Speaker 2: to the premiere in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't miss it. Besides, you know, Scott'll show up anywhere
Speaker 1: with a red carpet, including the opening of an envelope.
Speaker 3: Scott, my mom didn't name me Carrot Top, you know.
Speaker 2: Wayne points a thumb at Carrot Top.
Speaker 4: Oh got it, Scott real name?
Speaker 2: Okay, quickly changing the subject, so.
Speaker 4: Scott, congrats on winning Comedian of the Decade.
Speaker 2: That's a big deal.
Speaker 3: Thanks, come by the luxer and see me anytime.
Speaker 4: I will well great boat.
Speaker 2: Da gives them each a quick hug before turning away.
Speaker 2: They walk off, leaving through the crowd.
Speaker 4: I can only stand them all for so long.
Speaker 2: That's a scene that was in the book, and that's
Speaker 2: the fun That kills me the most. Is like when
Speaker 2: you become a writer and you're like, I'm gonna write
Speaker 2: my first sketch for my first story or anything. The
Speaker 2: very first thing you learn is like, hey, you don't
Speaker 2: need to start the scene by having characters say hello
Speaker 2: to each other, and you don't need to end the
Speaker 2: scene by having them say goodbye. It's just like it's boring,
Speaker 2: it's filler, and it's assumed. The scene starts with hey, guys,
Speaker 2: and it ends with well, great seeing you both.
Speaker 4: And you don't see these characters again.
Speaker 2: So it's not or before that, right.
Speaker 4: Nope.
Speaker 3: When I read, I was like, did I miss something
Speaker 3: worse somehow?
Speaker 4: Nope.
Speaker 3: Went from being a tennis.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't like that a lot aware to knowing.
Speaker 3: Being on a conversational basis with chirtup. Why didn't she
Speaker 3: tell us about that? I care of her life. All
Speaker 3: she does only hang out. She tells us about or
Speaker 3: with the show staff.
Speaker 4: You're like, something cool happened and you didn't tell us. Weird.
Speaker 1: She's on a conversational basis but does not know his
Speaker 1: actual name. Wow, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: Wait? This is a quick This is a quick quote
Speaker 4: from I guess this is Max, one of you. But
Speaker 4: it said it seemed it almost seemed like it had
Speaker 4: been planned that. At that exact moment, Mel, another girl,
Speaker 4: Mel who worked for the show, walked around the corner
Speaker 4: with a large cake lit with candles, and it was like, wait,
Speaker 4: who's the other Mel?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is there Why there's another Mel?
Speaker 3: There's no Melt's there might have been in a different draft.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was just like, oh my god, shit like that.
Speaker 2: Do you guys know how old?
Speaker 1: Carrot Top is?
Speaker 4: Pretty old? Now, isn't he? Also? Comedian of the Decade
Speaker 4: is not a thing. I googled it.
Speaker 3: The decade is not incredible, Like, we aren't even talking
Speaker 3: about her attempt at humor in that scene.
Speaker 4: No humor.
Speaker 1: He's sixty, he's sixty years old.
Speaker 4: Wow, the the envelope is so bad.
Speaker 1: I thought he was like ten years older than us.
Speaker 4: I also, wow, know he's been around for a while. Also,
Speaker 4: I should tell you thirty my parents who live in
Speaker 4: Las Vegas have did go seek Carrot Top like in
Speaker 4: the past. Really it was really where it was something
Speaker 4: where they're on some lists where like if they're like
Speaker 4: they need not seat fillers, but like they what they're
Speaker 4: like can get free tickets to shows. And my mom
Speaker 4: got on it, and so they go randomly and they
Speaker 4: saw Carrot Top in that situation.
Speaker 2: Wow, what did they think?
Speaker 4: I you know what I should have asked, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't remember a sparkling, any sort of review.
Speaker 4: I'll just text her and see if she it just happened.
Speaker 3: It just happened to them.
Speaker 2: Carrot Top. It looks AI generated, even though I know
Speaker 2: he's a real person, but like things look off, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's had a little work done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then he definitely dies that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's good, it's noticeable work. It's good
Speaker 2: work to you work that's like, wow, you definitely got
Speaker 2: work done.
Speaker 3: No, just to confirm I because I have that kindle version,
Speaker 3: I did a control find for Mail and the ins
Speaker 3: of mel Is saying mail another girl mil.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I do remember this moment now
Speaker 1: and I felt like it was just like another girl
Speaker 1: because she hates women so she had to be out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she really hates women.
Speaker 3: It's Mail Comma, another girl mill Comma who worked at
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so crazy, what was this even she does some like.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 4: This book was so bad. Really, it was the worst.
Speaker 4: It was the worst writing you've ever read.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I need to do the exact quotes.
Speaker 3: But when she first goes and sees the plain white
Speaker 3: tea's the guy, the guy, Riley is like, oh no,
Speaker 3: they're actually really good. The rumor has it they have
Speaker 3: a record deal. Then they play a song and she
Speaker 3: talks to Riley again and he says that they have
Speaker 3: a record deal, and I like went back and was like, no,
Speaker 3: Riley said the first.
Speaker 4: One and it happened during that song clearly, and it
Speaker 4: was Which isn't that their biggest song? Yes? Come on.
Speaker 1: Also, I like googling this book now and it's like
Speaker 1: Reddit threads are like this book is kind of infamous,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like this would have never been on
Speaker 1: my radar.
Speaker 2: I know, how did we miss it though? For so long?
Speaker 2: And Miles knew.
Speaker 4: I feel like we did. I feel like it was
Speaker 4: maybe because it wasn't a real Yeah, maybe we just
Speaker 4: had we missed it because it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Actually Miles came to our rescue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he definitely did. I think we were like being,
Speaker 4: you know, like I have it under mean book clubs editions?
Speaker 4: Where are you?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 4: We know how old Lannie is. She's like our age,
Speaker 4: I believe, or maybe even older now. But she I
Speaker 4: believe was like thirty five when this came out. I
Speaker 4: think I read that somewhere because I you know, I'll
Speaker 4: give that as a that's just top of mind, so
Speaker 4: it could be wrong. It was surprising.
Speaker 3: Remember when she gets stuck in the rain on her
Speaker 3: motorcycle and she's like cold, she loves her magic.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going Oh what No, that's so she
Speaker 1: could cuddle up to cam Mack.
Speaker 2: I think she is.
Speaker 4: That was one of my.
Speaker 2: Sorry favorite I think she's forty three and she lives
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, no matter.
Speaker 4: Now she's forty three, okay, so I think she would
Speaker 4: have been thirty five right when she wrote it. Though
Speaker 4: that adds up. This is this is kind of like
Speaker 4: an aside. But that Vulture article I was talking about
Speaker 4: earlier in the comments, somebody said this, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's true, but I really want to share
Speaker 4: it because I saw no one else talking about it.
Speaker 4: Somebody same named Adrian said Miss Saram is a con artist, narcissist,
Speaker 4: and literally the most uncaring, selfish person I've ever met.
Speaker 4: She caught us in a rental scam. We have lived
Speaker 4: in the third world conditions for two years that ruined
Speaker 4: our health in a house that she received rent from
Speaker 4: us for and had a crackhead and had crackhead neighbors
Speaker 4: destroy the property for an insurance scam. We had no
Speaker 4: running water, they cut the floors and walls out, and
Speaker 4: we have been attacked by various critics. Wow, she's cold
Speaker 4: hearted and karma is a bit. She's a slumlord involved
Speaker 4: in mortgage trod in Nashville. Somebody needs to stop her.
Speaker 4: I tried. I was like, is any of that true?
Speaker 4: I couldn't find any evidence that that was true, which
Speaker 4: is like I just was like, because I was thinking, like,
Speaker 4: how'd she get the money? You know, we keep talking
Speaker 4: about this, like how did she get the money to
Speaker 4: buy all these books and that stuff? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: if she's love Lord, that's like her background, that'd be interesting.
Speaker 4: But I cannot say for sure that that any of
Speaker 4: that is true. It's just a random comment. But you know,
Speaker 4: just that a little color if you wow.
Speaker 3: Interesting assume she had family money, the like acting she
Speaker 3: must have three seems.
Speaker 4: Like I don't think she got parts though. I feel
Speaker 4: like in interviews she was like I always lost the
Speaker 4: parts to other people, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: Really right, but like, how did she have the money
Speaker 1: to buy all those books?
Speaker 4: Right? Oh, yes, you're telling how other cand did she
Speaker 4: have it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And just that seems like the kind of like a
Speaker 3: rich family would push their kid into acting at three?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well an like you know, being able to manage bands
Speaker 1: so young but seemingly not being good at.
Speaker 4: It or like a ball right that she has a
Speaker 4: level of confidence though that you have to respect in
Speaker 4: that in that way, you know, oh, yeah, got herself
Speaker 4: into this. We're talking about her, like there are podcasts
Speaker 4: of people talking about stuff we've written.
Speaker 1: Guys like do you think Miles may is Lanny Saram?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she would hate us so, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is not gonna go well for us, but we'd love
Speaker 2: to have you on the cast. I'm also looking at
Speaker 2: Lanny's IMDb, and you know how she was like I
Speaker 2: was in Jason Bourne and Paul Blart, and it's like
Speaker 2: Jason Bourne conventioneer uncredited, Paul Blart Mall Coffee Hotel guest uncredited.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't want to take someone down that's
Speaker 2: trying to act. But it is also like there is
Speaker 2: a level of confidence and sort of like, yeah.
Speaker 4: She's exaggerating.
Speaker 2: Everything's a level of dishonesty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Anna delvying.
Speaker 4: Yeah she is Anna Delving. That's a very good way.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but she has one upcoming project. Let's see
Speaker 2: what it is. Bad men must blease. I know that's
Speaker 2: what I was thinking she had there.
Speaker 4: I believe there are sequel books. I do believe there
Speaker 4: are here.
Speaker 1: Okay, my media says book one of the series.
Speaker 2: You know what, keep writing. I don't fault anyone for
Speaker 2: continuing to write.
Speaker 4: Wasn't there a woman who like attacked her with magic? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then never came back. I feel like that's like, well,
Speaker 4: that's for the next.
Speaker 6: Book, for the next book maybe, But we're going to
Speaker 6: get into magic in the next book, or maybe someone
Speaker 6: from Oasis will have a maybe from her and that
Speaker 6: will be the focus.
Speaker 4: Is there aren't there more?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's hard to tell because it's like like we're telling
Speaker 4: you it's just not like nobody bought the book. It
Speaker 4: was she just bought the books herself.
Speaker 3: And we haven't really talked about how much she hates swimming.
Speaker 3: We can talk like it's a bit comical, like every
Speaker 3: woman is like vapid, it's ugly, ugly, like uh, I
Speaker 3: had a quick stuff and then every man is in
Speaker 3: love with her. We talked about that. Yeah, when she
Speaker 3: goes to Hot Dog on a Stick and the kid
Speaker 3: like is staring at her who works there, and then
Speaker 3: the girl who works there is like gets in her face,
Speaker 3: being like he's mine. She describes that girl as a short,
Speaker 3: stocky girl with mousey brown hair.
Speaker 4: Yep, she doesn't. She like ruins that girl's life by
Speaker 4: doing magic on her. That was like, why why are
Speaker 4: you doing that to her?
Speaker 3: Especially when you're twenty five and you describe them as teenagers?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just walk away, it's fuck away.
Speaker 2: I also feel like mousey brown hair is like has
Speaker 2: become like a standard insult. And let me just say something,
Speaker 2: which is like, mice have beautiful multicolored fur, and they
Speaker 2: can have all kinds of shades of beautiful brown and
Speaker 2: blonde and white and black.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of mousey being a color descriptor.
Speaker 4: I was the first time.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, so I true she was like doing bad righting.
Speaker 3: So my point of bringing this up is that she
Speaker 3: like hates the girl so much. It's like brown the
Speaker 3: color of them. I'm like, it is stupid.
Speaker 4: So she is a light.
Speaker 1: It's a real phrase. And the first time I ever
Speaker 1: heard it was in I Love Lucy and Ethel was like,
Speaker 1: what color is your hair? If you don't diet? It
Speaker 1: was like a series of questions, but that's the only
Speaker 1: one I remember, and Lucy answered them all in success
Speaker 1: in succession, and the answer that was mouse brown hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because MOUSEI does mean like quiet and shy, but
Speaker 4: also mousey brown hair.
Speaker 1: Light like spacific light, unfortunate.
Speaker 2: That's like not I think, what is my hair color?
Speaker 4: Eyes?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you no, no.
Speaker 2: It is also I want to do a shout out
Speaker 2: to exactly one listener, Emily. I found out recently. Sabrina
Speaker 2: is a huge is Love Lucy fan? So oh yeah, Emily,
Speaker 2: I thought you would be interested in knowing that didn't
Speaker 2: know Sabrina was a huge Lucy fan. But now I know,
Speaker 2: and now you it's true, and now everybody.
Speaker 3: Does well, and we have evidence, and now we have evidence.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just, you know, remembered that dumb little bit.
Speaker 1: Have I ever been friends for thirty five years and
Speaker 1: you just found this out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I know, it's weird. I've always thought you were very
Speaker 2: funny and had great taste.
Speaker 1: What's because I am luci o'balleryan Carnival.
Speaker 4: Well, that's right.
Speaker 2: She died a month before you were born, and you're
Speaker 2: pretty sure you might be Lucille ball Is that?
Speaker 1: That's part of it too, right that when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I did think that that was true.
Speaker 2: How do you feel what peron percentage of you still
Speaker 2: thinks that's true?
Speaker 4: Not zero?
Speaker 3: The month before is good? It took a month of
Speaker 3: you know, you get settled and figure out which kid
Speaker 3: to go into. Yeah, that makes it more realistic if
Speaker 3: it was the danking it was.
Speaker 1: It was a little more than a month before she
Speaker 1: was she was dead. I was gonna say so in
Speaker 1: this April twenty second.
Speaker 2: You were born famously June second, So I guess in
Speaker 2: this world you were a baby with a soul and
Speaker 2: then Lucille Ball was like, I want to be this
Speaker 2: baby's body, so she killed the soul that was in
Speaker 2: your body and became that soul and then was born.
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't have my soul until just nothing yet
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3: It's a clear when a soul, it's when celebrity.
Speaker 4: Shoot, yeah, we don't know the rules of celebrity soul.
Speaker 4: We need a book. We need a handbook for this, the.
Speaker 2: Handbook for Celebrity Soul.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's the book is all about dead celebrities
Speaker 2: who are like picking who they're going to be reincarnated as,
Speaker 2: and like where do you want to go?
Speaker 3: This book Handbook for mortals, made me less confident I
Speaker 3: could write a book, because it's like, really, this is
Speaker 3: someone who thought they could write.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I feel the same Clara. She
Speaker 2: thought she was writing a book and she was writing.
Speaker 1: There's no personality in this writing at all, like at all,
Speaker 1: And I feel you would have a lot of personality.
Speaker 3: Thanks Sabrina, and I cut you off while I was
Speaker 3: making that point you were going to ask about.
Speaker 4: Who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all of you reincarnated.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm.
Speaker 2: A first go I'm actually confident that I'm a first
Speaker 2: because my birthday is the first day of the Aries sign,
Speaker 2: and Aries is the first sign. So I'm positive that
Speaker 2: I'm a brand new soul. Plus just my personality, my freshness,
Speaker 2: my like zest for life, I mean, my my stupidity.
Speaker 4: You're not what's that? Okay?
Speaker 3: Well I was going to do a joke like your stupidity,
Speaker 3: but you did it.
Speaker 2: But I took the power away. I took the power away,
Speaker 2: and I so, yeah, I think I'm I know, I
Speaker 2: know this is I'm me. I'm fresh. So it's like
Speaker 2: amazing that I'm as good as I am, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I'm a first time soul. Like
Speaker 2: you'd think i'd be out there bar Is Low. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could be doing anything. Instead, I'm choosing to be
Speaker 2: a good person. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: That's incredible. That's just like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: You could just could have been Maybe it was Jesus.
Speaker 3: You guys know, I used to joke that Alfie was
Speaker 3: Jesus recorded because just makes people happy wherever he goes?
Speaker 2: Is that something known of Jesus? But he made people
Speaker 2: happy wherever he was.
Speaker 4: I don't think that was one of his things. I
Speaker 4: don't think people wanted to kill him.
Speaker 2: He flipped those tables over at the gambling behavior of man.
Speaker 3: People don't like.
Speaker 4: Clara.
Speaker 1: I feel like you, and I mean this only as
Speaker 1: a compliment, were a dog.
Speaker 4: Before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can say that I don't understand, don't
Speaker 3: know anything about Jesus.
Speaker 4: I guess I am.
Speaker 2: How far along do you guys all think you are?
Speaker 2: Because my answer is deadly serious. I really think that
Speaker 2: I'm a first timer?
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 2: I mean, Serena, you know you're Lucille. Do you think
Speaker 2: like you had a few runs before that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: I don't feel certain on how many runs I had,
Speaker 1: but I I feel like I have a such a
Speaker 1: connection with the universe that there's no way I agree,
Speaker 1: even if it's not Seal herself though, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, Clara, Sarah, So who is is someone who.
Speaker 3: Makes someone's life better?
Speaker 4: We're Roger.
Speaker 3: I always called him like the second coming of Christ
Speaker 3: and stuff I always called him that because his birthday
Speaker 3: was near Christmas.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, maybe maybe Santa Claus.
Speaker 4: Maybe he was maybe Santa I don't know. I think
Speaker 4: this is hard because it's not a premise I really
Speaker 4: think about. I guess. I guess kind of like a mac.
Speaker 4: I don't really think I subscribe to this belief system.
Speaker 4: So I don't really think I am someone who's reincarnated
Speaker 4: by or whatever. So I'm trying to think of something fun.
Speaker 4: But I just googled who died the air was born?
Speaker 4: No one's coming up. That's really clicking.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey diarund what I'm just spitballing.
Speaker 1: Well and again, it could be like any time before
Speaker 1: you were born, or if you felt like you had
Speaker 1: a big personality shift at any point in your life.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're jolted.
Speaker 2: You think the soul this is my first You think
Speaker 2: this is your first side.
Speaker 4: I know, I don't. I think I'm just going auls.
Speaker 4: I think I'm just going soul.
Speaker 1: Liess.
Speaker 4: If I'm honest, I think I believe that I don't
Speaker 4: have one. I'm just going without, go without.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you could be you could be Andy Warhol,
Speaker 1: you could be Bob Fossey.
Speaker 4: These are these random? These are these are objects?
Speaker 1: These are people who died.
Speaker 2: Clara, I believe this is a first go round for
Speaker 2: you as a human. I do agree. I think you
Speaker 2: were probably a dog one or two times. But I
Speaker 2: think just you're sort of.
Speaker 4: Like one or two.
Speaker 2: Things you don't know about, like feel like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is your first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so other than Jesus, what doing not.
Speaker 2: Like the fact that you don't like music? Internet?
Speaker 3: Okay, so everyone went did someone say Internet?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I said Internet. I don't have.
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff, just like oh, I explained it
Speaker 2: to Clara because she didn't know night.
Speaker 3: No, that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Remember remember that time you didn't know how to unplug
Speaker 1: your laud The light was like crazy and you were like,
Speaker 1: it's I can't think.
Speaker 4: I think she was doing a bit. But we didn't
Speaker 4: like it. No, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: We didn't like the b but nobody liked it, right,
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll just leave it all the
Speaker 3: entire time.
Speaker 4: We were mad. We didn't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my ring lights stopped working.
Speaker 2: I'll dare it.
Speaker 3: You leave it on all evening?
Speaker 4: Sure y, Yeah, that's gonna great.
Speaker 3: I don't have to turn it off. Someone must have
Speaker 3: turned it off.
Speaker 4: No, I died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the lighting is not great tonight. All right,
Speaker 3: well we never have it back there.
Speaker 2: You just have it set up like as though it
Speaker 2: were on.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: Guys, do we are we done with this book?
Speaker 1: What do we?
Speaker 4: Yes? We do? Good good Reads, five star reviews. We
Speaker 4: were promised some stuff from Sky et cetera, so I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I did write down Sky's review, to be honest, because
Speaker 2: it was just like really, it was like so uh corporate,
Speaker 2: you know, it was like okay, But I found a
Speaker 2: few others. Christy Ricchie, I think, first of all, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna go ahead and say your name is too
Speaker 2: close to Christina Ricci. Yeah, so I'd say go ahead
Speaker 2: and change that. But the review was I read it
Speaker 2: within a few hours. I couldn't put it down. It
Speaker 2: is slow to start and does have some grammatical errors.
Speaker 2: But I enjoyed this story and I'm excited for the
Speaker 2: next smiley face with the little dash for the nose
Speaker 2: and the bottom part of the smile. Mark Bettard said,
Speaker 2: this clearly a good book. I can see why it
Speaker 2: was a New York Times bestseller. Shame to see a
Speaker 2: bunch of envious haters ruining the reputation of this book
Speaker 2: and its author. It's a great book, get over it.
Speaker 3: So if she called Barnes and Noble and ordered the
Speaker 3: books and stuff, what's to keep her from making several
Speaker 3: Good Reads profiles. Yea, and this good book or whatever
Speaker 3: the little mistake was in the first sentence makes me
Speaker 3: think she wrote that reveal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So then this is an odd one and
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand the point that that's being made here.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like I said, there are only like
Speaker 2: seven good reviews. So Brian Hogan says, so stay with
Speaker 2: me here. Enter an outsider, outsider who shows up on
Speaker 2: the scene with something that garners attention. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of people on the internet who don't think this person
Speaker 2: deserves the attention, and they do everything within their power
Speaker 2: to stop the outsider. The media, they buy into the
Speaker 2: Twitter sphere and ahead of properly vetted information, attempt to
Speaker 2: bury a random element. I get it, though, like it
Speaker 2: or not, Trump won's the reveal.
Speaker 3: I give he maybe had several things he was going
Speaker 3: to put online and copy and pasted.
Speaker 4: Like it or not, what is Trump won her winning?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think he's because he sounded like it could have
Speaker 3: been about her.
Speaker 2: I think he's comparing the attacks on her book to
Speaker 2: the attack on Donald Trump, which is really funny because
Speaker 2: it's like, and he definitely seems like a Trump fan.
Speaker 2: But it's like her book was proven to be fraudulent,
Speaker 2: so it's like, it's totally supporting your argument. It's a
Speaker 2: little confusing.
Speaker 3: I guess if you deny the fact of it, it's
Speaker 3: fake news that she was doing that despite the proof.
Speaker 2: It just took a left turn that I liked, and
Speaker 2: it was a little It was better than the ones
Speaker 2: that seemed body. So that's why I threw it in.
Speaker 4: They got there, they go.
Speaker 3: It could have also been some sort of that she hired, honestly, yeah,
Speaker 3: to do good reviews, Like there's no way who would
Speaker 3: read this whole thing, let alone review it.
Speaker 2: I'm done, I'm done. Let's get out of here. Let's
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, guys, Okay by.
Speaker 1: Hate Ray zero out of five across the board.
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I guess zero out of I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like I could give it a one out
Speaker 4: of five because I think it did make me feel
Speaker 4: like I could write a book, but you guys said
Speaker 4: it felt it made me feel.
Speaker 3: The obvious that it's harder than I was, like, maybe
Speaker 3: writing a book is hard.
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, I just yeah, I guess it was like
Speaker 4: I fear that this is what it would look like
Speaker 4: if I tried to write a book. But I always fear.
Speaker 1: I just I've already I've started writing, and it's not
Speaker 1: what it looks like when I.
Speaker 4: Write a good that's the kind of that's confidence.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yeah, I started writing a book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Okay, everyone everyone thinks I'm writing my
Speaker 1: own autobiography.
Speaker 2: No, whatever, they are correct?
Speaker 4: What the.
Speaker 2: You can't say what she's told us about it?
Speaker 1: Like fifty times, but I can't say publicly.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a biography. When you say she's
Speaker 4: told us about it, it's not.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, what do you mean what she has talked
Speaker 2: about this?
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about? What is it?
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 1: I can't say publicly because I don't want the idea
Speaker 1: to be stolen, because it's going to take me another
Speaker 1: four years to do it.
Speaker 4: At the pace i'm can't. Everyone knows. You can't worry
Speaker 4: about that because the way you write it will be
Speaker 4: uniquely used. So you can go ahead and tell.
Speaker 2: Us I.
Speaker 3: Thought we were all going to write a book together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna reveal I've been writing it for years.
Speaker 1: No, please don't.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it because you're pissing me off.
Speaker 3: I think, being serious, I don't do it.
Speaker 2: It's basically the premises. It's just like young folk magic
Speaker 2: practitioner who leaves the Las Vegas to join a sideshow.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Her name is Sabrina. That's the change.
Speaker 2: It brilliant.
Speaker 3: All right, if you were actually magic, would you go
Speaker 3: on stage and be like, look at me doing magic.
Speaker 3: You guys think I figured out how to do this,
Speaker 3: but it's real magic, Like it just doesn't even seem
Speaker 3: like a skin.
Speaker 2: I would reveal it in the shittiest, dumbest way possible
Speaker 2: and everyone in a way where everyone would be like
Speaker 2: we already knew, and your magic stupid, because I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I'm magic, you assholes. Look I can clean up the stain,
Speaker 2: I like clean up the state.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I guess you're magic now, and that's how
Speaker 2: we learn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably could have been helping me with more things.
Speaker 4: Ever, give me anything.
Speaker 3: Here's a magic Yeah, that's where we are. She's magic.
Speaker 3: But she goes shopping at the mall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's doing dumb ship.
Speaker 1: She's doing dumb sh Listen. I can't think about her
Speaker 1: any longer.
Speaker 2: I agree, let's go. I need to leave, now, go bye.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: They were okay as well.
Speaker 4: Guess oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Little fucker, little fucker.
Speaker 4: Ah, I guess. I can't say that.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it. Oh my god, say it,
Speaker 2: it is it?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, say it is it. It's gonna be now.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's my my my baby here
Speaker 4: at the beginning, making probably making no.
Speaker 2: I loved him being here. He gave the biggest smile.
Speaker 2: It was so sweet, you're now my little fucker for
Speaker 2: even suggestion it was. He gave the most precious smile.
Speaker 2: I mean, people can't see it. They probably could only
Speaker 2: hear him going.
Speaker 4: In the background at the beginning.
Speaker 3: People love sweetheart.
Speaker 2: I love babies.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd be one of those people. But
Speaker 2: now you got a baby, you're like other ones are cute.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Prior to this, I I did have to like fake
Speaker 2: it a little bit oh weird because clar and I
Speaker 2: know baby you hav so it's weird that you say
Speaker 2: that with others. With other people I cared for, it
Speaker 2: left well yeah, well, I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unfathomable to think someone wouldn't be so yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I just mean with like people you don't know,
Speaker 2: like dumb people and dumb babies, not yours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say I have actually sort of the opposite.
Speaker 3: And it's not not with people I love babies, but
Speaker 3: with like a random baby. It's like, like I say,
Speaker 3: having Alfie made me less of a dog person, because
Speaker 3: like I like Alfie, I'm an Alfie person. Yea, So
Speaker 3: now it's like I'll give a shit about some other baby.
Speaker 2: Wow, the opposite with dogs and babies. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: who's that? Who else? Who else we have for a
Speaker 2: little fucker.
Speaker 3: A little fucker, little fucker. I think I'm also gonna
Speaker 3: pick Sarah because she was like, I don't know, that
Speaker 3: whole reincarnation thing seemed like she didn't really have to
Speaker 3: throw in that. Once she set up my Internet for me,
Speaker 3: which was like a nice thing to do, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know I was going to hear about it for
Speaker 3: the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened several times that I have read.
Speaker 1: I like that, although for Sarah too, just out of expedience, see,
Speaker 1: because this book has really tuggered me out, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to sleep, and I really, Sarah thought
Speaker 1: I was never going to vote for you because you
Speaker 1: have your DSP. That's a dick sucking palette.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Oh I wish I could take back
Speaker 2: my vote.
Speaker 4: Beautiful.
Speaker 1: That was really good, but unfortunately is yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: unfortunately the tide turned and I had to to Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, all right, do you throw a vote?
Speaker 2: Little princess voted? Oh, I mean remember it can only
Speaker 2: be it can only be, uh.
Speaker 1: Clara basically not just you basically could.
Speaker 3: Because the bread the bad thing.
Speaker 2: All right, Sure, Sarah can never be a historic.
Speaker 4: Than I did just coin d SP. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't want to even get myself on this.
Speaker 3: She coined DSP. You know, something I admire about Sabrina
Speaker 3: is that she could play both sides, so you know,
Speaker 3: she's just very genuine.
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm going to say Sabrina in an attempt
Speaker 4: to make this.
Speaker 2: Princess to say why because she can and then like
Speaker 2: giving a compliment.
Speaker 3: Now you don't like little princess, Johnny can't.
Speaker 1: This is more annoying.
Speaker 4: John's exactly how I felt the whole time.
Speaker 2: Stupid took yourself out of it, Sabrina, Sabrina.
Speaker 3: Yourself.
Speaker 1: You can privately text me whatever you're going to say.
Speaker 1: That's me great, Okay. What is our book for next week?
Speaker 1: What's our book for next week? What the hell is
Speaker 1: our book for the next episode?
Speaker 3: The calendar?
Speaker 2: It is Killers of a Certain Age by Deanna Rayburn.
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 4: I think this isn't actually this one.
Speaker 2: It continues our string of murders.
Speaker 4: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I hope it's great. I need a good one because,
Speaker 2: dear God, these last two.
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