Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to
the Game mess Acides Podcast. This is the podcast where
we decide everything about the world game so you don't
have to think for yourself. I'm your host, Mike Minaughty
and with me.
Speaker 2: Is Don Turbo Shawn McDowell.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, Xbox canceled the game, Xbox closed a studio.
What the hell is Xbox doing? But first, I want
to thank everybody for joining us, especially Sean. Great to
see you here, Great to have you here. Jeff still
on his little vacation. Yeah, how's it going, Sean.
Speaker 2: It's been a week, a lot of highs and lows,
this one. But it's also a short work week for
those of us in the US, So, uh, where do
we just get to relax actually do this show. So
we're gonna try to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely, you know, looking forward to a long weekend.
I have some video games that I want to play.
I want to stream. I haven't been able to stream.
I've been doing other things every night. What had this?
The ten Dogs Tuesday? Wegga man on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: It all sounds like a whack ass name, but all right.
Speaker 1: Lega man. It makes me. It makes me feel like
I'm a doctor, like from Megga man eight, like we
messed out quickly weggaman doctor? Whywe But uh yeah, I
definitely I'm not like tired in a bad way, Sean.
But it was a busy week, even though it was
a short week, even though I didn't even work Monday.
I don't know what I'm complaining about, but yet here
I am. I'm ready. I'm ready to just chill. Do
people so say chillax? Is it embarrassing to.
Speaker 2: Say, well it is now after you just did that
right there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, screw it, I'm gonna chillax. Uh. You know what
I found out today? You know what I said today.
I said a lot of things today on this week,
various forms of content. You know what. The one the
one thing is as made people most upset is when
I came out as pro carpet.
Speaker 2: Oh that okay, I was gonna. I had other guesses,
but all right, what was your guess?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: So carpet? Huh uh? The pro you like carpet?
Speaker 1: My carpet is soft, it's warm, it's fuzzy. I just
think it feels better than hardwood floor. I think the whole.
It's soel gross thing is overstated. You can clean your
carpet just fine. You can vacuum it a lot, and
every once in a while you can get the carpet
cleaner out. You can get at wet and soapy and
dry it. It's fine.
Speaker 2: I think part of that is that you are single
and you live alone, and so you're very much in
control of what gets on the carpet and everything. If
you live with someone who is messier, if you live
with like pets who don't behave themselves on the carpet
and stuff like that, especially if you live with kids.
I live with my little sister for a long time
when she was like a baby, carpet was a nightmare.
We were praying for hardwood floors. So it depends on
your living situation for sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe here's the thing is that this house has some
hardwood floors and it's all kind of shitty, Like it's
not really hardwood. It's this vinyl situation, right that is
really lame. And then like there's tile in my kitchen,
but like the it's cracking and it's real shitty too.
At some point here, frankly, once like you know, years
from now, when there aren't pets here, are probably going
to redo all of the floor and have a clean
start on that, and it's going to be an annoying
expense and all that stuff, and I don't know. I'm
just thinking about right now and when it comes time
to put new floor in my living room, I just
kind of want to put it in. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys where like, you know,
you've bought the house or you're paying it off whatever,
and you're like, this is it. This is the house.
I'm not like looking for other houses in the future
or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. Unless my life circumstances change a lot,
I'm generally pretty good here. There's a couple things. I
wish I had a bigger bathroom. I wish I didn't
have to go downstairs and upstairs for laundry, small stupid things. Otherwise,
h I'm pretty comfortable here. Okay, cool, It's me all
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Speaker 2: Why don't we just be as I have my own
Discord server for emote purposes. I might end up merging
it back into the just the game best ones for now. Yeah,
I have my own one dis.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to twitches, whatever you want to do.
They're all good, all right, Yeah, busy week, lots of
talk about Actually, so you know, I have your xboxes canceled,
Perfect Dark reboot. They close the developer. That means the
initiative is gone. There's been just a bunch of layoffs
all over the place with Microsoft, it laid off four
percent of its employees. That's about roughly nine thousand and
one hundred. This has included a good amount of video
game people. Zenomax Online Studios has canceled an MMO that
it was working on. Even place is like King who
makes candy crushing and Raven software that works on Call
of Duty has seen layoffs. Same with Turned ten. All
sorts of studios have been impacted by this.
Speaker 2: It was insane trying to It was insane to like
keep up with all of them. I'm glad you're like
keeping tabs on that because like every feels like every
time I check down Blue Sky, we just got another one,
like the VGC crew or something like reports of this
team getting cuts, this team getting laid off, this game
getting canceled. It was wild there for a couple of
days there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Over at Rare they canceled ever while yes, and
Gregor Males, who was like, you know, he has been
there forever. He's a director of CfDS. We're doing Banjo
Kazuli is leaving the studio. Even impacts people who are
just working with Microsoft. John Romero's students working on an
FPS that was, you know, being published by Microsoft. Well
they pulled out and now that studio is just kind
of screwed, so you know, they lost their fun. So
huge ratifications for this all over the place, lots of
it is shocking. I mean again, we knew this was coming,
but boy, the perfect dark thing, especially the initiative were
they were they.
Speaker 2: Such a big hard for them. Yeah, they were really
pushing that in whatever whatever showcase it was where they
last showed. It was last year, the one before, and
it was it was a big deal to them. They
were like, yeah, this is this is one of our
big new releases. We're reviving an old franchise. It's gonna
make new players happy, old players happy. And to just
cut that completely, like even though we knew that development
was troubled down that you know, Jeff talked about a
little bit, you know, Red Red Valentine put out that
report a while back over IGN like it seemed like
things were shaky. But just the fact that they they
completely can't all of it feels wild. Considering how much
they are propping up. It feels like almost like, I
don't know, it would be like canceling. What are we
on like year six or something like kind of feels
like that level to me based on how they were
treating it right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a huge game. They made this studio
specifically because they wanted to be able to compete more
with PlayStation. They're calling it quatrouple way. They even brought
in Crystal Dynamics to help, so, you know, start only
thing of well, money and like manpower wasn't the problem.
So what the hell happened there? How are they not
able to get something going there? And whose fault is that? Really?
I doubt it's the fault of many the people who
are now out of work because of that.
Speaker 2: It never really is. It's almost always management. You know,
management isn't guiding the ship properly and the ship goes
up on the rocks, And you don't blame the crew
who's below decks trying to like, you know, get everything sorted,
pail out the water when there's a crack, Like, no,
it's the captain wasn't looking in the right direction. You know,
it's their fault. It almost always is in cases like this.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Abslutely, I yeah, the whole thing is just absolutely it's
it's startling, and I don't know what exactly Xbox's plan
is right now, how this makes you know they're gonna
throw shit out there like, oh, we're a swifter company now,
blah blah blah. I mean, what's the strategy there. It's
just it seems to be we're gonna we're more of
a publisher. Okay, but then they still talk about these,
you know, a next gen system and all that stuff, right,
part yeah, part of me is almost like pick something,
because who's going to be excited about a next Xbox?
How is a new Xbox possibly going to do any
better than a series X did?
Speaker 2: It does feel like based on the rog ally partnership,
though then maybe they are heading in based on weird
to some people, but like the three d O or
like CDI sort of hardware strategy where they partner with
people who are already making the hardware and making good
hardware at that to make their platform. Obviously, I'm comparing
it to failed platforms, but the difference is those were
platforms trying to get off the ground. But I think
in this way they are going to start working maybe
more closely with like an Asus or someone, to work
on something that is less bespoke, something that is a
little bit more off the shelf. That way they can
do things like because they talked about the rog ally interface,
it is apparently just the new Xbox app, And so
when you fire up theg Xbox ally, it is just
booting into a version of Windows that is running less things.
I'll run less, fewer background tasks, and the desktop is
loading and everything. It's just loading into the Xbox app.
And I think because they're putting effort into that and
the way that Sarah Bond has talked about Windows being
the future gaming and stuff, I do think that is
the way forward for them. So if they sell something
that is a console, maybe it is just a PC
running the Xbox app and stuff, which raises a whole
bunch of other questions because technically then they're abandoning backwards
compatibility and stuff. But I feel like that what we've
already seen of that plan is sort of a sneak
preview of what they view the future of Xbox being,
which is in some ways concerning to a lot of people,
which I totally get.
Speaker 1: Slaswhisky for them too, right, because you know, if the
ass rog Xbox doesn't do that, well, that's that's a
pretty small investment on their parts, like they're able to
move on from that pretty swiftly. You know, we talked
about management that's not changing. Phil Spencer is still going
to be in charge of Xbox. There's even rumors going
around that he was gonna step down after a year
and Sarah bon become in charge, and Microsoft came out
and just said, no, that's not true. He's gonna He's
gonna be in charge for the foreseeable future here. I mean,
how do you feel about that, because there's you know,
there's one part of me it's like it seems like
everything there is going to crap and none of the
plans under him have really worked. But there's not a
part of me that wonders how much has it change?
But you know, it's like, well, somebody's got a somebody
in management has to kind of take some blame here.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. You know why Phill's not going
anywhere because they're.
Speaker 1: Doing exactly what they want him to do.
Speaker 2: Because he's doing exactly what they want to do, he's
making them money. And then when it comes time for
someone else in Microsoft, you know, whether it be Saty
or whoever, to say we need to cut a crap
ton of jobs that we have more money for other things.
He's not getting in the way of that though from
a business perspective, Bill is doing everything right for them.
It sucks, it's awful. People's lives are being upended, and
we're all pissed. But Microsoft's making money. And that's the
kind of company that Microsoft has always been. They're a
cutthrow company. When you get to be a megacorp, that
is how you treat things like you know, Apple on
their side things is the same way. If they could
be a monopoly, they would. Microsoft has always been that
way where they try to like, you know, demolish the
competition and do all these things. There's a lot of
talk right now about their contracts with the military and
people not liking then everything like that. But at the
end of the day, if they're making money, that's what
they're concerned about, and that's why they're all this or
all these resources into AI and whatnot, you know, co Pilot,
they're quadrupling down on all that stuff. That's what they're
concerned about. That's what he's doing. He's still you know,
he's a CEO. He's still that C suite executive who
makes these kind of decisions just because you know, he
put on like a battle Toes T shirt or whatever,
And even if he does genuinely love gaming, it doesn't
mean that he's not still going to be the kind
of person who does this, and that's who they want
in charge there, and that's why he won't go anywhere
unless he wants to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Do you think this
is going to make any kind of a shift in
the way the consumer feels about Xbox. A part of
me thinks that, you know, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, well
you think it's gonna be less goodwill than ever for
a brand that's been losing goodwill like crazy anyways.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's I mean, it's really unfortunate, but like
they're not going to care that goodwill is lost until
like they complete they put they bet big on something
with gaming that just completely collapses because no one believes
in them anymore. Like then they'll be a little pissed off.
But with the way things are going, I kind of
feels like maybe at that point they're just like, well,
all right, we're just like really yanking back the reins
at this point and going full jess yup, we're just
Microsoft gaming as a publisher, and it's just gonna maybe
dwindle from there as they care less and less who knows.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean, you know, there's an average consumer
who maybe not know very much about this, and if
they hear like Years of War six or whatever, E Day,
whatever it's called, is very very good, they're just gonna
go out and get it, and they'll just think it's
on the PlayStation. You know, Microsoft, the Xbox used to
really care about kind of cultivating this community and this
sort of you know, sense of sense of group and
this fandom for around Xbox. I want to you know,
there's all there's a lot of Xbox fan sites, these
passionate people, and I just wonder how much longer that
is almost gonna sort of go on, if a lot
of those places are going to become more general gaming places,
or they you know, if they're just going to continue
to focus on Xbox, which you know, at this point
is a third party publisher that dabbles in some hardware experiments.
Maybe now at least, you know, again they're trying to
say that this next console is going to be something interesting.
I'm skeptical of that. We'll see, but you know, and
maybe some of this is I hate to say that
people are gonna forget this. I don't think they're gonna
forget this, but sometimes layoffs do come and go. Remember
when everything happened at Blizzard and it seemed like that's it,
that's the end of Blizzard. Time kind of moves on
in a way and people reevaluate.
Speaker 2: I hate that layoffs are happening so frequently, not necessarily
at this number, but they're happening so frequently that I
did catch myself fing to myself. Okay, so like nine
thousand people, not all of those are specifically gaming, you know,
and that Xbox it's across it's across Microsoft, it's across Microsoft.
And I was thinking to myself, Man, when's the last
time we had layoffs this big related to gaming, like well,
you know, whether it be a bigger business like a
sody layoff bunch of people and stuff, and it was
Microsoft with what the ten thousand or whatever from two
years ago. I'm just like, oh my god, how did
I forget about that? And it's because it feels like
every week it's this team got laid off, this team
got downsize, and earthing like that, and yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 1: It's almost a fortune that kind of hits harder when
it is like, oh, wow, this studio closed or this
game was canceled. It shouldn't be like that that way,
but it is. And it makes me wonder what will
happen if it is ever we wake up and it's oh,
Microsoft is shutting down Rare or Microsoft is shutting down
Double Fine, one of these beloved studios that it picked
up to try to, you know, get more content so
it can compete with PlayStation and then that didn't work out. Anyways,
how much longer is it really going to bother footing
the bill for these companies that maybe turn a little
bit of a profit as far as they're concerned, not
a call of duty profit, that's for sure. I just
hope that those companies and everybody is still able to
move along here exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know, I will say Bear is probably okay
for now because they have a live service game, and
as long as that keeps going, they'll probably keep funneling
money in. And that's probably the kind of projects and
we'll see you keep going. The IM concerned a bit
about the the smaller projects, the single player projects. They
bought a lot of companies, and it really sucks that
some people are kind of looking up and seeing a
boot above them right now. That's just fucking awful.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fuck ups, Mind's Eye Boss reportably claims eternal
and external saboteurs are to blame for the studio as
well from Jordan Miller and VGC. That's it there, that's
the story is that you know, uh, Leslie Benz like
finally came out of fighting whatever to talk to employees there.
Uh all the employees who, by the way, about three
hundred of them have received emails of formulm that they
are at risk of losing their jobs. But no, the
Benz is they're like, oh, we're gonna maybe turn this around.
It's gonna be great. And you know it was. It was.
It's all saboteurs and backstabbers inside and out. That's the
reason nobody likes Mind's Eye. I've seen Mine's Eye. I
know that is. You can't fool me. What are we
talking about here?
Speaker 2: Is that those pressed sneak box I keep hearing about
or is that.
Speaker 1: Something like that?
Speaker 2: It's delusion, right, It's just it's just wrong.
Speaker 1: It absolutely is A guy who once worked on the
most popular game in the world and is not able
to handle failure.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a meltdown or what, but
it is just absolutely bizarre. Again, like the game has
like thirty people playing it right now, probably on Steam concurrently.
Speaker 2: But it was it was a train wreck on release,
and I think I haven't played it. Have you played it?
Have you played Mindset?
Speaker 1: I just watched Jeff play it. I mean it looks
freaking terrible. I have your desire to.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, the game could be like
maybe an okay, like action shooter, detail adjasent thing or whatever.
Maybe maybe they could like bry for, like a seven
out ten game out of all this, it's the fact
that it is. It's so hilariously broken and buggy, and
it just doesn't freaking work. Like me, maybe they could
have almost a Cyberpunk on PS four Xbox one situation,
or they turn things back around. But the broad they
put out is bad across all the platforms, and that's
why people are pissed. It's not a collusion or anything, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cyberpunk still got like a lot mostly eight
right when stuff like that, like Jeff's three out of
five was considered low for cyberpunk back then. Mine's Eye
is at a thirty four. There's nothing to save here.
You'd have to remake the game. You have to do
if Office fourteen did right, just make a new game.
But why bother doing that? It's minds you're not making
the newfound fantasy in a field, and it's some you know,
thing people want to like, but it just didn't work out.
No one cares about liking Mind's Eye. Everyone.
Speaker 2: It's a mediocre video game with awful performance. And that's
why everyone has gone from kind of not caring to
not really liking to hating the thing that they bought
because it just doesn't operate. They can't do anything with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a it's definitely victim's wrong word.
You know, we do tend to kind of gang up
on these awful games sometimes. It's like a phenomenon that
almost started with Red Fall. Maybe I'm sure before that,
but you know, happened with Red Fall, it happened with Concord.
You know, when the games are bad, we kind of
like really sort of poking product the wounds there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people people like dunking on things, and that's that's
actually something that I very much myself kind try to
stay away from. It's like, come man, like people people
worked on this, like they tried, and another case of mismanagement.
You know, someone somewhere in the chain did not make
the right call with this. Mind's Eye is clearly a
game where in any other situation it would have been
delayed six months to a year because someone looks at it,
they say, oh god, you run into one and they
turned to this horrible spaghetti moscer. Yeah, that's happening consistently.
We need to push this back and they just didn't
do that. And that's it's pretty obvious to me at least,
that that's what the problem is here. I assume that's
what the problem is here. And yeah, it comes from
somewhere further up the chain, but people further up the
chain there to be a little delusional about that fact.
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to hear from Mind's eet again, I have,
you know, Unfortunately, I do expect that studio to close,
and it's it sucks, but that unfortunately imagine any other
future there. Right, all right, that's it for our very
uplifting news segment today. We're going to take a quick break,
we'll be right back. Read some super chats. All right,
we're back. We've got some super chats. So right here,
Thank you so much, everybody. Slay mccossam says, in honor
of the fourth of July, can you guys do a
mount rushmore of presidents? Sure?
Speaker 2: William Howard taffed, Uh naturally?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I don't know, can it just be taffed?
Maybe this is one. It's just a giant task statue
attached to you.
Speaker 2: And what's his face from Metal Wolf Chaos?
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. I know he's just a senator.
I thought he was a president, but maybe Armstrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, like honorarily in Mike's United
States of America Armstrong.
Speaker 1: I guess we could do solid as snake. He was president,
which is really funny.
Speaker 2: Again, you know, I guess they didn't specify video game
president or real president.
Speaker 4: So there, Yeah, he's the guy from Metal Wolf Chaos.
Speaker 2: Did you look that up or did you know that one? Christian? No?
Speaker 3: No, I looked it up.
Speaker 2: You're gone, okay, because I'm it feels like something maybe
Christian memorized at one point in his life, and he
remembers it, okay.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, And I'm just thinking about via game presidence because
there's the president from ninokne to which should have been amazing,
and then it just is okay, but yeah, just the
tast I care. But you can put anyone else you
want after that. Tuber says, Okay, I pull up hop
out at the after party. You and all your friends, Yeah,
they love Mike MANAUGHTI I think this is a song
they're doing here. Perhaps you yeah, yeah, but I liked it.
I like it, Tuber, Thank you so much. Lex Luddy says,
my uncle lives in Boston. I'm going to start calling
myself the most American contributor to Giant Bomb. Did you
watch the truck today when Dan rickerts uh the first
Dan Rekords Uh didn't know that that super was Irish,
and then Syder claimed to be the most Irish.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Oh, don't worry. I was there for the
whole thing. I was there when Lex Luddy called into
the show. And of all the contributors to Giant Bomb
are the years, not once was I mentioned as an
Irish person on the website.
Speaker 1: Look, I was dumbfounded by everything else going on in
my In my defense, bes it was, it was a lot.
Next up is from Geo Reaper. Let's get an update
in the new bars. When is Game of Rep two
point zero dropping? I know, I know, it's a long weekend.
I'm going to work on that this weekend. Like I said,
it's been, it's been. It's been very busy. It's not
an excuse. I will get on I'll get on that.
I'll do that. Sean will do Dave, Sean, We're all
gonna fulfill our obligations. It's obligation month.
Speaker 2: Obligation Giant bomb less. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a nepotism week this week. Now it's
an obligation week.
Speaker 2: Scout's been producing the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so probably good for a dog. It's like that
dog at the end of uh, like the dog from that. Yeah,
Simon from Saskatchewan's this from now on. When things don't
go my way, I'll say it's because of internal and
external saboteurs. Too bad, if it's too boring because it
has a Blake Club written over. Yeah, that's the thing.
Like usually when a game gets like a score of
a thirty, it's like, oh, this would be a great
Blake Club game. At least but this like just doesn't
even seem like it's very exciting for that, it's just
not a good fit.
Speaker 2: I love the way you say saboteurs by the way,
yeah yellow Sean Connery or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm thinking of like the guy from
the Peak movies. I don't know. That's why. That's why
I want to say it, Simon Simon Sasketchewan says, Risten Peace.
Michael Mattson ever play Crime Boss that's rock A City?
I did not. I think I watched when Giant Bomb
played it at one point there, But no, do you
do you ever do any rock k City? Or you
a big Madisen fan?
Speaker 2: No? And no, I'll be honest, I didn't really recognize
this person by name. I heard the news.
Speaker 1: He does a lot of Tarantino stuff. So if you're
not person, Wiley Jenkins says, as an Xbox owner since
the o G, I think going forward, PC, Nintendo or
the way to go if you want to make sure
that games aren't in afterthought, I mean if you do,
I mean you get a PC, you're gonna get all
the same games. Anyways. It's that's again like I get
them releasing their games on other systems PC and PlayStation
do more for Nintendo. I just have no idea what
the selling point for the next Xbox is possibly going
to be or what's their sex appectations for that can possibly.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, Since the birth of Xbox play anywhere,
the play has been EC and Nintendo and if you're
interest in their exclusives, PlayStation at PlayStation now bringing everything
a PC on delay. If you're cool at PC, like
you know, I'll keep saying it, Yeah, PC and a
switch now switch too. This is the most cost effective
way to play like ninety games, you know. So if
you're down, good route to go absolutely.
Speaker 1: Artie Bick, who has been a Lincoln member for seventeen months, says,
congrats on the new gig turbo Sean A. Thank you, yep, yep.
It's good having you there again. Always nice, uh having
you around and having your help because it's very handy help,
so we appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess we haven't really mentioned it here on
games yet, but yeah, we we work something out. So
you guys are still building the airplane mid flight a
little bit over at the independent Giant Bomb, but you
guys need some help. I needed a freaking job. We
figured something out. So yeah, I'm back to helping out.
Speaker 3: Content is gonna come to chimbone finally, He.
Speaker 1: And I was on almost everything this week. Didn't you
enjoy this week's content?
Speaker 3: That was pretty good?
Speaker 2: Yes? And that. Yeah, that's totally not a sign that
you're very busy.
Speaker 1: David Arlene says, if Xpision thirty three doesn't win Game
of the Year, like Jeff guaranteed, that's the shape of
Turbo Shawn's hair, I don't think Shan's gonna agree to that.
Speaker 2: Hell no, I'm growing it out. I'm liking growing it out.
That The story I'm sticking to this week is, first,
I took his spot on de sides, that I took
his hair, that I took a job as company. It's
a great week for me to steal from Jeff Grubb.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I took a morning show. We're just all taking.
I'm not giving it back. Actually, it's a lot of work.
You can have it back. That's fine, I'll tell you what.
When he said that, there's partly like, oh, I hope
it wins, but I don't know. Now that Dan Reikert
is really liking Expedition thirty three I am feeling pretty
good about it, So yeah.
Speaker 2: I knew Dan would too, because like he would. In part,
it helps because as a realistic art style, let's be real,
but also because it's a turn based game that has
an active element, and that is a huge barrier for
so many people by self include. Honestly, as much as
I love JRPGs, I do definitely prefer action RPGs most
of the time. But also I've always loved the the
the Mario RPG's style, having just a little something in
there to like keep the turn based stuff interesting. And
that's why I think everyone's fall in love with Expedition
thirty three and.
Speaker 3: It's Adams fuck.
Speaker 1: And Dan really love what he loves anime when it's
not presented as anime. It's got to be like secret anime.
Speaker 2: He's a gigantic Metal Year fan, so of course he
actually loves anime. You though he'll never me.
Speaker 1: He just.
Speaker 3: It's like a baby.
Speaker 4: You gotta do like a plane, like pretend to said
the spoon of a plane anime.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm fine with, like very like basic turn
based systems for sure, but if I was making a
turn based RPG, I would absolutely Mario RPG the hell
out of it. It just definitely seems like engaged. Yeah,
it helps make get palatable for so many more people.
All right, Next up here is uh from Baba is me, Hey,
my great job on Game this mornings. Thank you. It's
just a Wally Pitt moment for what's his name, John Grubb.
That's a baseball reference Wally Pip No, like I said,
he could take it back. I'll go on there once
a while. It's a yeah, it's it was fun. I
enjoyed doing it. It was nice doing it with Jan.
It was nice to get a j on there helping.
But that that entire time, I'm like looking at the
clock and I'm like, is this going to be about
an hour? Is this going to be about an hour?
Speaker 2: I know you were really worried about that going in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'm usually a bit more like six
sink then Jeff for other people. Even when I would
be on that show with Jeff, we would usually finish
it like ten minutes earlier than other people. But I
got it. We did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you also had people who definitely helped
helped you there with Jan and AJ, Like you can
chat to them for a while, so you.
Speaker 1: Did just a big win bag for sure.
Speaker 2: You did a good job this week, Mike.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Fud Sec says, well, DK Bonanza finally bring
back Sue Kong some of the I'm gonna look up
Sue Kong and I'm oh my god, Oh this is
a real person. I think, Oh my god, what Chris
explain I read the chat. Let's see here now, Sue Kong.
These nuts?
Speaker 2: God, God, dude, man.
Speaker 1: I did not get it till just then. Wow, that's suppressed.
I'm almost impressed. That's good Sue Con. These nuts. Man. Wow,
it's like, who the hell was Sue Con? I thought
I knew most of the con Maybe they're from Kingdom's Swing.
Speaker 2: Or something I got. You're talking to a guy who
does his bank camp BofA. So don't worry. Don't worry,
Christ this is just how it is.
Speaker 1: Incredible, Uh, hobbies or sleep says shout the Simon from Worcestershire.
Great member of the community, and hope your battle against
cancer is going well this week. Yes, absolutely, Simon, hope
all is going well. I'm a big fan of the
sauce from your town. Wiley Jenkins says, when you pull up.
It's the old carpet to replace it and see how
many how much dirt. The fact you didn't get you
may change your stand. That is out of sight, out
of mind dirt, my friend, that's completely okay dirt. That's fine.
Speaker 2: That's that's below dirt. We don't talk about the below dirt,
the below dirt exactly.
Speaker 1: Sledge Ryinhold says, nine thousand and so many people, it's
hardy even comprehend. That's choice as many people as the
town I grew up in. Insane Microsoft can go redacted. Yeah,
and again, trillion trillion dollar company, like three points something
trillion trillion. No nobody or corporation needs to have a
trillion dollars. It's insane.
Speaker 2: Well do when you're really getting into AI stuff? Yeah, yeah,
spinking money top of the.
Speaker 3: Well havelf of the planet's tweets, who run them?
Speaker 1: You need? Yeah? Well, at least AI has been making
our lives better for sure, Right, has he's been giving
us shitty arts or anything like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're worried about.
Speaker 1: Sa Dryinhold says, also great to see Sean back on
the show. Hello, Banjo play Ebarses. Hope you guys have
a great fourth. I think this current generation has been
plagued by a graphics arms race with diminishing returns. Nintendo
has done it right, Yeah, I mean that that has
been a whole thing. I mean the initiative was a
big part of that, right, That's why they're saying quadruple
A blah blah blah blah blah, and like you here,
we are for sure.
Speaker 2: I do think we're an interesting slight reset on that though,
because of the growing popularity of handhelds across the board,
especially you know, as PC handhelds are starting to explode
now more and more does more and more companies are
focusing on optimizing for smaller screens, optimizing for lower power,
and optimizing in general, because that's how we kind of
didn't have for it's on five years there very much.
So I think maybe that is like again we're talking
about raining things back. That's raining some companies in a
little bit more because they can focus on having just
focused experiences that run on those things.
Speaker 1: I almost feel like there's only five franchises we're ever
going to really need to push graphics anymore. It's like
grant the thauto call of duty, Like maybe your gears
of Wars and Your Horizons and Naughty Dog stuff, and
like otherwise, everything can look as good as Expedition thirty
three and that's good enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah even then, like as good as all of the
major franchises look. I don't think we really need more
than how they looked on the PS four. No, it's
going to exponentially increase the cost of making the game
and time to make the game. Maybe it's okay if
we hit a bit of a plateau until some of
that stuff gets easier, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, yeah, make the plateau, and again, let's do that.
We got we're even we're starting to get the performance
in a decent place for a lot of these things.
So like that's good. Why don't we actually just make
the games look like this forever? They're kind of looking
like the same anyways, because the differences is so minimal.
But just make it the same and make them hopefully
easier to create, so we have four your Deth cycles
more often. Again, I don't know, maybe we can't go back.
Speaker 3: This is a funny thing. I remember a friend from
the New and Plus Voice, and like when he went
to the E three or the show the PS four
and he saw people cheering for it?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 4: The PS four that it was one of one of
those people were cheering for the terra flops and he said,
we're cook and he wasn't that she.
Speaker 1: Said, so he was.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: Incredible. Uh. Al America says, now, Sean can keep you
boomers and check again. Wow when you had to explain
to me why I was being called a boomer because
I was like, I'm not I don't understand. I'm a
millennia and you might explain it.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, it all can't boils out to Mike. Look
behind you, Just look behind you a little bit and
maybe maybe think a little.
Speaker 1: Or the replica sign for an Epcot fast food restaurant
that doesn't exist anymore, that might have like a little
bit to do with it, you know, dah, just a
little bit, maybe just a bit.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Edgar Marino says, I watched The Horse Girl a horse
girl anime. I thought it was a track anime. It
was until the girl was getting horseshoes that it hit
me that they were horses.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wish you know about USA I have.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch any episode of that show, but everybody
hypes it up so hard. It's like I now I
kind of need to watch it. I don't know, I
don't know what to do because something everybody.
Speaker 1: On Jan wants to play that game, and I kind
of want to watch him play it. So there's dude.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, no stop, everyone stop. Listener, listener. We need
to be on the same page. Everybody. There's four hundred
and sixty one, four hundred and sixty two. Hi, welcome
in people watching right now. We all need to be
on sand page. We need to keep Jan the fuck
away from that game.
Speaker 1: Wow, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Is a sagotcha game?
Speaker 1: Oh, the horses are got.
Speaker 2: You need to keep Jan away from this game at
all costs. We need Chan count these treats. Okay, we
can't let Jan throw away the paycheck he doesn't have
yet on the Horse Girl game.
Speaker 1: This is not good. This is not good. No horses
for Jan, no.
Speaker 2: Quick looks, no TV plays.
Speaker 1: We don't quick look away now unfinished, no GP plays,
no Mega Man, no Wegaman, none of it. No Horse Girls.
Speaker 2: Unfinished is gonna be a name of Jan's resume if
he plays goddamn game, she's gonna get Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't. We can't we can't let this project.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking for.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not Visualizer says four or four xbox not found
that boy Jerry says is damp co ever gonna give
us in for the next Tales of remaster. Should I
finally just play Tales of the Abyss? Am I totally
real places in two instead that boy Jerry, listen to me,
because me and you we're in this together. Because I
also really want to play Tales of the Abyss, because
I I my understanding is that it's the best one
of all the ones I haven't played yet, and I
don't want to really play it on my PS two,
and I don't want to play the three DS version.
It's gotta be the one they remastered next. They did Vesperia,
they did Simfonia, they did Graces surprisingly before that one.
Maybe because that three DS one happened, it's gonna happen.
I bet, I'm telling you. I think we're gonna get
that within a year, maybe two. I wouldn't be shocked
if it gets announced at some point this year. Even
I think we'll get Tales of the Abyss. If they not,
it's the next remaster somehow is an Abyss it's something
because I think they are doing they forget about auxilia
or one of the other PS three ones. Did they
did say something about that. But we're gonna get abyss eventually.
Speaker 2: Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: Uh? And the next last one here El Greg says,
remember when Jan called Sean old good times?
Speaker 2: I still haven't listened to that episode. What the hell
did I miss?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What? What do you do?
Speaker 1: I forget? Maybe he knew that you were going to
try to keep him away from the horse girl game
and he lashed out.
Speaker 2: I thought the white people are talking about I thought
I had something to do with death stranding or something
like that. I don't know the details. Not to go
back to most of that episode. I suppose it's right.
Speaker 1: I need to play des stranding at some point, don't
I do?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Do you really need? Yeah? Yeah, at least try it again.
I don't want to be you're specifically talking about too. Okay,
you're not going to be that guy who was doing
it the entire time. Now is even going to try it?
Speaker 2: To? Have you played one at all?
Speaker 1: I played one, not all of one, but I played
some of one. I never hated it, I just I did.
I didn't I can't get why people hated it.
Speaker 4: But Christian, I try so hard to that video game
and I could not get into it. Was so it's
so not it's not it's not a fun game. I
don't know what people want to and I like a
bunch of like she's di minush like she was walking around.
I like those kind of games. With this game, I couldn't.
I just I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beat me.
Speaker 3: I didn't beat that game.
Speaker 1: The game beat me for me.
Speaker 2: For me, it was definitely the fact that it's like
the first and hours of death Erinding one are boring.
They are like irredeemably boring, and everyone's like it gets
so much better ashure that. I'm like, I do genuinely
believe you. I just feel so burned that I just
wasted like ten hours of my life and something I
was just bored with. Like but no, I'm kind of
interested in death Raining too. With the way people talk
about even like people who are funny dice about the
first one, like me, like, there's actually stuff in here
that is pretty cool gameplay wise and stuff. So I'm like, Okay,
maybe when it goes down price or something, I'll check out.
Because you know, I didn't get code or anything. So
maybe when it gets time to like thinking about Game
of the Years, pick it up comes on PC maybe
then or something. But like I'm interested in trying to
especially when people say, like you don't need to necessarily
play one as much. Yeah, I just watch a summary
or whatever. You'll you'll be like mostly up to speed.
Maybe I'll hop in later on.
Speaker 1: All right, man, I don't know if fires are picking up,
but people are going crazy out there. They must be
really excited that we just finished the super chat segment here.
But if you have any more super chats, we will
get to them before the end of the show. We're
gonna take another break that we're gonna come back. We
got We're doing a game ass the Sides mail bag today. Yeah,
so well, let's hang around some more. Let's keep talking
about video games everybody. That's what I want to do,
and just a little bit. All right, we're back. This
isn't the Dog Them show, so I don't have to
make Sean pretend to be a dog and go to
this one. Yeah, you could just start reading the mail
back questions we got from our community.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. Normally we do this over on intens.
But since it's been one hell of a week, I
thought we could all just get in a circle talk
things out a little bit, just have a nice chill
mail bag over here and decides. I listened. I know
people want them over here. Every once in a while,
I try to sneak them in when there you go
when it lost for it. So first up, Tommy pencils.
A few months ago, Joyz told me that the P
in P four stands for p eee and that's why
it's called P four golden. Is this true? I regret
doing the mail bag. Mike, Oh, that's funny.
Speaker 1: I get that golden because yeah, that's funny. That's a
that's a good time. No, it doesn't say answer for persona.
Speaker 2: That's an answer from slain. By the time you read this,
it will already be the fourth of July here in Europe.
How are you all going to celebrate America's birthday or
whatever the fuck you all celebrate on this day? Any
particular video games you associate with the fourth July?
Speaker 1: The only game I really think of with fourth of
July is actually Day of the Tentacle, because you know,
there's some time traveling stuff there so a third of
the game is set in colonial time, not even like
on the July fourth or anything like that. So I
don't know. I always think of that as like the
one game that I could kind of pretend to the
Fourth of July game. There are others. There are other
kind of colonial games or Assassin's Creed three, There's Liberty
or Death Right, weird stuff like that, but no, the
only one I think about Day and Tec when I
played through that pretty recently already, so I'm not too
worried about going back to it right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, for me, I have a weird one. I'm a
bit of a weird one, but I have an explanation
for it. Final Fantasy fourteen, and it's because Fourth of
July weekend, long weekend games done quick is sometimes like
around fourth of July weekend. I think it used to
always like be on fourth of July weekend because they
lined up with the holiday, and that would just be
a time for me a veg out and like get
caught up on stuff that I missed out on fourteen,
you know, like put GDQ on in the background. I
would have like an extra day off of work and
stuff like that. So I definitely associate fourteen with being
like a summer game, and so just a it's a
it's a lazy, hot day, ac ain't keeping up. I'm
just gonna kick back and play some fourteen.
Speaker 1: So gosh, that sounds nice. Yeah, summer games and quick
starts on Sunday. I kind of like to. I would
like to do a little cleaning up on some games
I'm in the middle of and haven't finished yet, like
Doom the Dark Ages even avowed, so in the middle
of that, I think that would be nice. But yeah,
I mean, I'm just taking it easy. There's not'n't much
in the way of family plans. My one friend's having
a party, so I'll go over there and hang out
with people. But yeah, nothing, nothing crazy, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the greatest time to feel patriot over here.
So well, I'll probably just like you know, Christian and
I'll probably just have my usual like Fourth of July
Bronze or something that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't even know if I'm gonna
watch seventeen seventy six this year. I'm just not feeling
I don't know.
Speaker 4: Speaking of summer, the summer games don't quick The channel
for that is back on the Terror fe Yeah, talk
about it.
Speaker 2: The tradition, we opened that channel up what basically twice
a year anytimes the game's done quick for people to
talk about.
Speaker 1: What's the finale this year? And I'm curious. I haven't
really looked at this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't check the schedule yet, but I'm
what's up?
Speaker 1: The finale is Delta Rune.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 1: It's kind of play Chapter two yet. Shit, maybe I
need to hurt up. And they've been doing RPGs recently
so that that checks out. Yeah, a big one, okay, okay, Uh.
The bonus game right before that is a Mario Kart
World already, so geez. Interesting. Wonder what that will look like.
Oh man, they're going to be doing a final Fantasy
nine run at at some point too. All right, lots
of fun stuff there. I always like games done quick
a lot.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh? From like a Dylan Hey Merch mess or
mid For Christmas? Can we get a Turbo Shawn action
figure in the style of Turboman from Jingle all the way?
Speaker 1: Look, that sounds like a pretty big ass I have
no idea how to even start that. I have not
like so far I've just been selling stuff from the
one fulfillment center that can't where is he going that?
Speaker 2: Can?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Print things I haven't like gotten bespoke merch and then
put it manually in the store from some warehouse. That's
a whole another thing there. It's a funny joke though,
the Turrible Shaw thing. Okay, let's see he's got is
it a turbum? You have a Oh you have a
terrible man. Hell yeah, Sean is holding up a terrible man.
Look at that. That's pretty good. It's turbo time. Oh
all right, if we do if we do that, I
have to be booster. Oh you're a booster. Absolutely. Wait
a second. People didn't like Booster. Nobody likes you Boosters.
Speaker 2: You keep talking. I gotta put this way and needs
to be nestled safe, please under the tree.
Speaker 3: What do you How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1: Mike? Oh, I think it's good. I like Christmas movies
a lot, and I'm a big fan of those kinds
of Christmas movies. They're relatively cozy. It's it's kind of
late in the what I consider the prime of Christmas
movies for me, from like that kind of mid eighties
to late nineties period where we would take making a
lot of those, and a lot of them were hitting
like your Santa Clauses, your home alone, your Christmas vacations,
things like that. So, man, I wouldn't have necessarily pegged
you as a big jingle all the way. Uh, guy,
seanam I think I learned something today.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I love that movie, which, by the way,
that's not where Carbo Shan comes from. If anyone's wondering
that good, Uh, it's just it's just a silly, goofy movie,
you know, it's Arnold being like his comedy best. I
think I love that movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's a ton of fun. Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: Next up here is from Michael Riley. I was on
the verge of subbing back into game Pass. When's the
last time a corporation was so shitty that helped you
save money? Nilss sam opting all of that subscription.
Speaker 1: I should I didn't even think about that, And part
of me is like, how often am I really using
game Pass lately? That might be a pretty good idea.
They clearly don't seem to care that much about it anymore,
you know. It's frankly, it's easier for me than other
people anyways, because I can get codes for the games
I really care about. So yeah, whatever, But yeah, it's
hard for me to imagine the last time something like
that happened. I mean, that Harry Potter game is something
I definitely would have gotten if Yeah, Jackie Rowing didn't
become a monster, So I guess I.
Speaker 2: Reveal herself to be a terrible person, man exactly. But
that's the one that I was thinking of to you.
Not necessarily a company, but boy, sure have saved money
on a Harry Potter movies and stuff in the past
decade or so. Uh from Joys. I bet you couldn't
even name four hundred and four game messes.
Speaker 1: Every podcast. That's pretty good. Oh that's why there was
that four O four Xbox joke earlier. Look at it is. Yeah,
that is the number. It is four O four. That's funny.
You're not gonna find us ship. Yeah, man, we it was.
It hasn't been a great We weren't really able to
celebrate many milestones here. But when we get to a
couple of years, when it's Game of Society's five hundred,
we're gonna party like crazy. Oh you know, we'll do it. Dude,
there I said it. Screw it, Okay, finally want I
guess we'll get the truck. I uploaded only on poorn
hub dot com.
Speaker 2: From Screaming Maden here, Hey, Guitaru, Mitch and Turbo Shan Volnut.
Oh good call. Since we are halfway through twenty twenty five,
was the most obscure twenty twenty five game y'all played
this year? Mine would be dice Ball, a dice based
baseball roguelike where he roll dice to hopefully get good
roles like Homer's at bats and flyouts on defense, as
well as by cards at a shop in between games
to improve the run cools.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only made by thirty people. It's this real
hitting gym keeper France. No one knows about it. Ah,
you did it, you did it, You did it. I
mean the two games that I like this year that
I feel like nobody really talked about a whole lot.
Two point Museum is like not some big hitten gym,
But I think that game is really good. It's average
review score is like an eighty five, and again, people
don't really talk about it very much. I think that's
a bit of a shame. The other one I actually
learned from Jen just from doing you know, shows with him.
Is that Nubby's Number Factory. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
the kind of like peg goal roguelike with the early
web aesthetic.
Speaker 2: I think that game is super fun. Yeah, I think
for me, I'm opening Steam here, which apparently closed at
some point, just to see. But I think mine would
actually be or of not a game but a rom hack,
which I'm counting because one of my favorite games of
the year so far. But Bazar, that Mario sixty four
rom haack I played. That's a little bit of Bilatro,
a little bit Neon White like, turns into a roguelike
deck builder where you can own where the four main
buns of the N sixty four controller B, A, Z R,
hence the name, are then bound to actions that you
draw up.
Speaker 1: A Dutch and that's why it's called that.
Speaker 2: That's why it's called that, I guess, And it is
so much fun, and that's been one of my favorite
games of the year, is so far probably probably my favorite,
right behind Expedition thirty three. So yeah, well that coo
cool cool uh. Uncharted Wolf is up next, Hey Wolf,
Hey Dog, and Turbo Dog. Do you guys think Nintendo
will do anything for Mario's fortieth anniversary the same way
they did for thirty fifth Galaxy on Galaxy two on Switch,
Mario Movie two teaser, Mario kard DLC, Mario games getting
switched to updates, or anything else that could fill a
fortieth anniversary direct run time was the thirty fifth anniversary
celebrate just because it was convenient timing.
Speaker 1: I think it's always kind of convenient timing. I don't know,
I guess I'm curious because thirty five doesn't even seem
like a real anniversary to me, right, It's just like
whatever number forty, I guess is more real than that.
Speaker 2: It does like doing like every five though, like even
when something that you wouldn't expect like thirty five. So
I feel like they'll do something for forty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there will be a good amount of
things were ready anyways, but there will be some. Yeah,
there will be things, whether it's small stuff like you know,
NSO icons or what have you. Collection is interesting though,
because it's or remaster remake. I'd love to see Mario
Galaxy two on the Switch to finally or anyway, but
I don't know if that's if that's on the menu,
even three D land or something like that. I have
no idea I do.
Speaker 2: I think Marino might have a chat just something like
red and Gold joy cons or something like silly, like
kind of nice like that. They'll just do something small probably,
But then like also whatever whoever Mario announcement was going
to happen anyways, like you said, it's probably what's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before they should just post something on the domb
news app, And I.
Speaker 2: Said today, Yeah, I love Nintendo today because then informs
Warrio sixty four. Who then I look at.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly right, Yes, like they made an app for
the actual influencers and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the reposters to then pass on to us.
Low Rule says, would you all consider Resident Evil to
remake a three D Metroid venue?
Speaker 1: Oh? It has those elements for sure. I mean there
are a lot of games that have a lot of
elements of quote unquote Metrovinya that I wouldn't really call that.
Like a lot of Zelda games are very metro vanua
esque in a ton of ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zelda and Metrod have always been linked style wise,
gameplay Wiseah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the thing with the resumeable games, those
that you're not really getting new abilities that unlocking areas
are just getting keys. I almost fix it more like
a doom like or something like that.
Speaker 2: Right, that's a good point. That's a good comparison. Yeah,
and that's what Yeah, Metroid Venia is all about the
power ups for sure. But I see what you mean
about like going through the same areas over and over
and like unlocking things that you now have a new
item for. I get where your heads at, lowerrel I see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like this. The three D metro veins.
Metro Vein is always difficult because those always tend to
be they feel like a lot of genres like the
go tos that actually are that, right. I mean there's
Metro the metro Primes, Arkham Asylum very much. Is that
chetiphone order even had a good amount of that feel
to it. That's an interesting thing to think of. But
we need to do a mount rushmore of three D
metro vanas and like exclude metro Prime from the list.
Speaker 2: That could be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: From keywork, Hey, homies, I would like to use my
mailbag question as time for Mike to throw together quickly
his top ten of the century since he failed to
do so earlier. I personally did it, and to be different,
I picked my favorite game of all time for all
the warcraft and ranked the expansions. To help Mike have
a little bit more time, What are your top ten
games of the century, Sean, Thanks for all you guys do.
Have a happy fourth and make good choices. So yes,
if you need to get no pad out or something,
Michae will give you a second.
Speaker 1: I'm opening up as Google sheet right now. Now there
you go.
Speaker 2: I did screenshot this so I would not forget it.
I did a sort of half a half, I mean
like two thirds one third between the games I genuinely
think are the best from the past twenty five years,
and then some of my favorite some of my favorite
genres I think the best game within that genre. So
in no particular order, the ten I picked were Persona five,
Royal The Eld, The Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Assie.
I mentioned all those atop the show. Mario Kart eight
because I think it's a borderline perfect video game for
what's trying to do, Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime, All
of Duty, Modern Warfare two, Elite Beat Agents, Bayonetta two,
and Super Smash, Beyers, Ultimate. Those are a ten that
I picked. That's obviously a lot of Nintendo lean but
what it's Call of Duty, the only non Nintendo of
Persona as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. I'm like rushing here. I think, ooh,
I'm gonna put this one onca. It's good to piss people.
There were so many.
Speaker 2: There's so many I wanted to pick that were like
like Third Strike I would love to put on there,
but that was Arcade in ninety nine, and so like,
I don't, you know, don't count that, Sally exactly exactly.
I was thinking, like, what, it's the fighting game representative,
and yeah, I know everybody traditional fighting games, but like
smashes the complete package, I could not put Ultimate on there.
Speaker 1: All right, here's what I put together real quick and thirty.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily legally binding, but yes.
Speaker 3: This is legally binding. You go to jail if people
don't like him.
Speaker 1: Wow, boy is that ro Because number ten is kind
of Heart's two. Number nine unsureted too, Number eighty pro
Skater three seven is Breath of the Wild, not my
favorite Zeta game, but in this situation, I think you
kind of to give it the Breath of Wild over
Win Waker, even Uh. Number six is Resi Eval for
remake Ari. Number five is Super Smash Brothers Melee. This
top four is probably pretty binding, actually, number four, Halfway two,
number three Metro Prime. Number two is Final Fantasy fourteen
Rodby Born obviously, and then number one is Super Mario Odyssey.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I contemplated both fourteen and ARI four, Like I'm not
even a big Ari fan, and I acknowledge how incredible
ARI four is, and then fourteen is a personal favorite,
So either of those could like swap out for a
lot of the games on my list.
Speaker 1: I will lose it if Halfway two is not on there,
I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest, I wouldn't want.
Speaker 2: To considering the Giant Bomb audience, I would expect Half
Life to be I hope.
Speaker 3: So yeah, why the remake and no original?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 1: For like the remake more, You're probably You're probably right good,
and I like use that with Breath of the Wild.
The original is probably more impactful, But I really liked
that remake a lot. Again, if I looked at this more,
maybe I would kind of lower that because of it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I respect the gut choice of remake though, because
to me and like if we ever do any list
like this, like me, you and Jeff are like over
on GB or anything like that, I always say that
Reverence has no place in a top whatever list. Sure,
Like I know people feel differently about that. That's how
I feel it, because if you put out like a
top ten list, if you go to someone who's never
played a video game, hypothetically, hypothetically you go someone's never
played a video game, they say, hey, what are the
best games? I've never really been to gaming. I just
want to play the best. You're not gonna say Super
Mario Brothers one or Super Mario Brothers three most likely,
even though those are some of the greatest games of
all time, because that person will probably be like, but
this Mario game that came on twenty seventeen, like looks incredible,
and everyone says that's like one of the best ones.
And so that's why it's like impacts. I don't like
to weigh into some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's why Odyssey is so easy, because it's like it's
like the newest and best one and also just the
best one, like no question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like as much as I love Mario sixty four,
I speed on the damn game. I love that damn
game honestly, just they nailed it. They absolutely nailed it.
Speaker 1: I do kind of wish I had ruined the list
for elpehs. That was a good pick. Snake Eater and
uh hit Man World Assassination. I think I would like
to see that in hades. Also, I could do really well.
Oh boy, I really liked those or games, but just
feel a little weird about them at the moment. I
just feel a little weird about them at the moment.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, good talk, Thanks for a prompt o ky
Yorck from Ninten Derek. That was a great voicemail dump
truck today. It was a voicemail dumb truck. Something everyone
should go listen to that. Uh Brian Patchwolf was on
and it was a really fun time for Mike. How
does it feel knowing Dan is just clearly the weird one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was fun because I was I
was getting targeted pretty early on because of my desk situation,
and I was like, oh no, I'm gonna be the
weird one today. And then Dan really came to the
rescue on that one. Really really helped me out of
a jam. There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell that the swerve happened because you know,
I'm watching this and I'm like, you know, I'm I'm
planning out social content for next week, and I'm like, oh, well,
the TikTok is clearly our one making fun of Mike
for his desk because that was really weird. And then
we have Dan's international incident one. I'm like, well, I
gotta pivot the strategy a little bit from one day
English input name here, top ten games of the century.
Just do it, bro do it right now. You can
fix this later, right now first, and I come to mind,
then post as the game mess list and never break
it up again. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1: That'd be funny. I think I don't I think I'm
getting access to the CMS. I think we just realized
I don't have that, So yeah, then I'll just I'll
just post it myself to.
Speaker 2: The Giant Bomb CMS.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying one thing. I had to kind of
think of it maybe again, because it's weird to think
of PS one games for this, and yet you know,
there are right, I couldn't even do focussing nine was
two thousand, right.
Speaker 2: When did pro Skater two come on? Was that ninety
nine might have been.
Speaker 1: Well, wait a second, now, when did the century begin
in two thousand or two thousand and one?
Speaker 3: Oh shit, this is a fucking side field laughs, fucking
question right there, right right, because.
Speaker 2: Pro skater two either way, By the way, either way,
pro Skater two was two thousand, so that easily could
have gone my list as well.
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm a three, I'm a three guy, but yeah,
two's also fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. From Mike Manati's Rainforest Cafe jo I, I'm gonna
say it right Aja's answer Jerikoff instructions, I don't really
have a question today, but here's me hitting you with
the I fucking love you guys in the same way
that your friends say that to you a bar after
like you know, six to twelve beers. Also that since
that great a fuddy duddy isn't here, I hope Sean
says my pen name properly. Don't worry, I got you, homie. No,
there you go.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad that you did say it in front
of me.
Speaker 2: That would have been weird. If I do it, you know,
it's content. If your brother does it, that's that's just
a weird thing.
Speaker 1: At the next station whimsical when you do it John.
Speaker 2: They also a follow up quick follow up also Sean,
how's life with your fifty seventy ben which, yes, in
case anyone didn't hear, that's a graphics card I managed
to get, not the one I wanted, but the one
I could sett along because it's the only one I
could get for MSRP and not like three hundred dollars
over MSRP.
Speaker 3: He has one of the strongest fighting graphics cards out there.
Come on, he's doing fine.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you no, No, it's a really good card
and I am really happy with it. Yeah, I don't
really know say about because like we have reached the point.
I'm not doing anything too crazy. I'm not trying to
push like four K or like super high frame rates,
super high fidelity or anything like that. For me, it
was more of a work thing. The thirty sixty t
I actually wasn't holding up in some work applications, so
I did need to upgrade a little bit, And the
fifty seventy isn't quite the jump I would have liked
to make because of the v RAM situation. Specifically, I
will have appreciated the sixteen gigs, but at least for
gaming and everything, and for the vast majority of work stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that and of course are pretty good for Yeah
yeah for work.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm no'm I'm really enjoying it. I hated
having to pay five hundred and fifty dollars for like
the mid range graphics card nowadays.
Speaker 1: But it's just where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, right, Okay. Next up here is Broken
ninety five. I'm curious to know if Mike knows the
total number of times he's been to Disney World's slash
Land both in his life.
Speaker 1: No, part of me like, I don't know if I
can't figure it out. But people ask me this a lot.
I really don't know what the answer would be, right, Like,
it's I'm sure it's fifty at least I suppose, but
I really have no idea what that total number is.
Speaker 3: Like I thought you you were going to say, like
in the hundreds, and I was like I was ready
for like some degenerate number, but that fifties, Okay.
Speaker 1: I think I think people would expect me to say
in the hundreds and something that's not really like that. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like, you know, once or twice a
year for most of your life done basically because you.
Speaker 1: Know what there happened, you know, But when I was
a kid, it was it was once a year. It
was not like we were going for multiple vacations a
year exactly or anything.
Speaker 2: It was just like, yeah, your vacation, you happen to
be going Disney. Okay, what's bump the numbers?
Speaker 1: Is like when I started just kind of sneaking off
to Disneyland while I was in La a bunch ah,
that's what kind of boosted the numbers up.
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Gotcha? Okay, let's see. Next is from Always Be Clothing?
What are y'all most hoping to see at EVO? New characters,
new games, new costumes.
Speaker 3: We will see because my most hoping.
Speaker 2: To see Always be Clothing? At Evil I get to
meet him.
Speaker 1: Well, we already know what the Street Fighter characters are.
Maybe tech and will do right by us and give
us TIFA. Finally, Oh what, let me see?
Speaker 2: Way we know the theme of the next character. Okay,
so the next Teching character is the new character, the
new Teching character in universe? New character.
Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, so we'll guess we have no idea what
that could be like.
Speaker 2: That's probably gonna be talking.
Speaker 3: Probably I want to see that. They're probably gonna show
maybe it is maybe maybe it's like playable.
Speaker 2: Then maybe the way yeah, Rick, the guy who runs that,
was sort of doing the rounds a bunch of like
content career streams and stuff like that when it's talking.
He was like poly like, you know, the announcement just happened,
and we're like trying to figure out and we could
maybe do something like that, And the way he was
talking abou about him like, I feel like they're trying
to get like like PlayStation might be trying to scramble
to get like a booth together or something like that,
because like if they have a build ready to go,
then they could like put together the booth and have
it playable. Because EVO, like, Mike, have you ever been
to EVA at all?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Not at all?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's slowly turning into like a like an E
three situation where there are like big themed booths that
you can like go and play like Capcom stuff, Bandy
Namco stuff s and k stuff.
Speaker 1: PlayStation's publishing token, right, and they EVO, there's.
Speaker 2: Gotta be something exactly, So I'm I'm like minimum, we're
getting a trailer there, but it would be interesting to
see if they even have like a small booth.
Speaker 1: I want to see Cyclops in that game for Jan.
I think Jan needs that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if they have some cool like, yeah,
like knowing the design of that game, like some like
jacket with a big collar, Cyclops or something like that
that looks really.
Speaker 1: Sure of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean,
I don't think I'm not expecting anything crazy to be announced.
It's gonna I think it seems like all the big
people are kind of spooking for with what they are
working on right now, right, I mean Capcom. I mean
I would love it if Capcom finally announced some other
fighting game aside from Street Fighter. If they gave us
I don't expect the Marvels Capcom anymore, sadly, but give
us a Dark Stalkers, give us a Rival Schools.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Probs three, something like that.
Speaker 1: I would still pop pretty hard for CVS three. Yeah,
although you know that's all weird because we're just getting
guest characters in these in both of their games now, really, I.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't even want to say it.
Speaker 4: Out loud because it's just they break my heart every
single time this the scene is know what it used
to be back in the day, we could expect some
trailers and some stuff in tournaments, and they don't see
that that's an importunity anymore to show this stuff. So
that's why I'm kind of whenever somebody asks that, I
kind of get deflated because I remember the old days
we got like character revealed, really hype, character revealed at
the end of the before Grand Finals and that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I feel.
Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see what happens. JD. Camp There is
a Handles in the Portland area. Turns out Ohio can
make good things. No animal cracker flavor when I.
Speaker 1: Went though, okay, hopefully soon. Then that probably is Ohio's
greatest export is handles ice cream. Maybe that's some of
those people who went the space that came from here.
Speaker 2: Uh from Laser Wolf. When you choose your Pokemon starter,
is it based on type or just who you like
for that gen? I always choose the Grass starter.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's always just whichever one I think looks the coolest.
I mean, you can always make, you can make whoever
work in Pokemon for for the most part, or I'm not.
I'm never too attached to a specific type or anything
like that. Either.
Speaker 2: I'm a water Pokemon person if you can tell from
the gren Ninja play met and the nessa poster behind
me big into water Pokemon. The one the straw that
broke the Camel's back though, was fucking sobble and sword
and shield. That dude looks stupid, and Teleon looks even
more stupid. So I went with score Bunny that generation,
which since the streak was broken, I then went with
Sprigotito and Scartan Boy it's adorable.
Speaker 1: I did go as score Bunny there. I did think
Water has had in most the most winners over the years.
For me, I really like pin Plup a lot. I
think talk Yeah.
Speaker 2: My favorite Pokemon. I love that look because penguins are
my favorite puff folk. Penguins are my favorite Pokemon. Penguins
are my favorite animal. So I love well.
Speaker 1: I got great news for you. Have you heard about
my son? Doesn't matter, he just got to do pictures.
He's he's growing, He's like he's coming, this trapping young
penguin there. So very proud of Kilkoto.
Speaker 2: Uh Big Fresh thirty six. I don't know, man, I
get it. I get that. I feel that.
Speaker 1: Weren't they Big Fresh thirty seven before? Am I crazy?
Were they were they?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait? Weren't they?
Speaker 2: Wait? Was thirty seven?
Speaker 1: Wait? Is this some big press?
Speaker 2: We're going backwards?
Speaker 1: Hang on, what's happening? What's happening? I could have sworn
that was Big Big Fresh thirty seven? Sounds right, right,
that sounds right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't question until you said it.
Speaker 3: That sounds right birth same bird type ship. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Benjamin Bun type motherfucker like.
Speaker 1: Counting down like Claire im Scars and Big Fresh. You
gotta let me know what's going on. I'm worried.
Speaker 2: Frost thirty seven got homage and now we're fresh.
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I don't like this.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm worry now, okay okay.
Speaker 2: Inufe says, why would anyone continue to invest in the
Xbox ecosystem after this week's blood bath? Clear they only
want to focus on the biggest of the big and
cut everyone else and make make co pilot make games.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They have never really recovered from the Xbox One fiasco
and it shows I agree with that last part there
for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you bought an Xbox Series X or
even an S and that's no cheap thing, I can't
blame you for still, you know, investing in the platform
that you already invested in in some degree. Again, like
where I get confused and where I get skeptical is
what what the heck is the pitch for that next
console and how are you bringing in people with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if Sarah Bond saying it's like the
biggest generationally, that's where I do think that, like the
licensing hardware thing is gonna happen, and we do see
the next console be like a BPSPC that's like twelve
hundred dollars, and then the handheld becomes their serious as style,
you know, smaller model type thing. As far as like
why would you continue to invest in Xbox at all?
In their ecosystem? What I'll say on that is I
was thinking about this a bit, and what I'll I
always try to tell people this when they have a
situation like this, and it's not saying people want to
hear and I get it because it's not an ideal
thing too here, but the box still works. Your purchases
are still there for their foreseeable future. At least your
games are still there even if you bought them digitally.
And if you want to jump ship somewhere else, that's
a decision you can make. If you want to be
a more conscious consumer on the current platform, that's a
good option as well. Sometimes these situations are rough and
sometimes to be blunt, Yeah, like a corporation screws you
over and it turns out that like your investment didn't
mean nearly as much the them as it means to you,
and so you had to make a tough decision, and
that sucks. I know it sucks, you know, take it
from like. That's that's why PC gamers love Steam so much,
is because Steam seems unshakable, but we are skeptical of
other launchers because some of us have even put money
into their storefronts that kind of just like disappears and
puffed the smoke. At least with the console, as long
as the console works, your stuff will still be there.
I don't I don't see Microsoft shutting servers down or anything.
So like, your purchasers are safe and it's just up
to you to decide what.
Speaker 1: To do next, man, I wanted to play Star Wars
Battlefront too recently, and I want to play it in PC,
and I realized, oh shit, I owned that on Origin.
So I literally just like watch listed on Steam, wait
for a really cheap sale, and it happened, and I
just picked it up there for like, you know, five
or nine bucks or something.
Speaker 2: Does it even launch through Steam? Because some of those
like just open Origin.
Speaker 4: To say like, yeah, you did that, smart, smart boy.
And then when you lunch the game, he opened up
with a play what the fuck?
Speaker 1: It's like, I guess, uh, there goes five bucks?
Speaker 2: Okay, moving on a little bit more like hardly perhaps
Breezy Caesar says hand Mike Drest as Rascal on the regular.
Speaker 1: No, no, uh it's not. It's not as bad a
costume with some, but the wigs suck. The wigs are
so itchy like that, like the little part of it,
the system, your scalp is itchy than all little hair
fibers getting into your eyes and your eyebrowns and your forehead.
That's itchy. Uh again, I've had worse for sure. And
then the sunglasses to everything was just really dark. So no,
I'm not gonna chreus U.
Speaker 3: He sounds to me like Mike Manatti doesn't like he's viewers.
He's he's not committed. He's not committed to the content.
That's what I'm a hate field person.
Speaker 1: That's for sure.
Speaker 2: That's always say about him. Uh from B I've been
finishing up the last few Final Fantasy games on my
switch to and recently finished FF three, five, eight, and
now ten. I absolutely loved f F eight top three
for me, but I'm not really into FF ten at all.
Nothing about the games hanging for me. Give us a
final Fantasy hot take, and yeah, do you have one, Mike?
Speaker 1: Mine has always been four. I think four is z okay,
and for a lot of people, four is as precious
as a six is. And I mean I don't think
I don't think it's definitely a bad game or anything
like that. But I played through four a couple of
times now, and I enjoy myself while I'm doing it,
and then very little about that experience really sticks with
me in any meaningful way, whereas like five, even five,
and six, love love love those. I think four is
easily the weakest of the sixteen bit ones.
Speaker 2: I guess, like my list of favorite Final fantasies, like
is maybe what you're thinking about here. I don't really
have a hot take in terms of like the quality.
I tend to aligne with like because you know, I
appreciate games that maybe aren't the greatest. So like my
my favorite finl fancy games, My favorite final Fantasy is
f fcent remake, like the first one to remake after that,
like something more traditional is actually f F fifteen, which
is now what people would expect either. But again, like
I said, I like action RPGs, and then after that,
it's like, well my favorite like the more traditional ones
that people are getting into, because even like after that,
it's fourteen, Like after that, if we go further, it's
it's seven. And seven is the first one where some
people will be like, okay, Seven's like the answer I
was looking for there of like you know, the ones
from like thirteen and earlier. But yeah, I actually do
like a lot a lot of the modern FF stuff.
As it turns out.
Speaker 1: Maybe my other slightly hot take is that I think
Foul Fantasy two is a bit better than people make
it out to be. Some people act like it's easily
the worst one. It's definitely like it's definitely, but I
know I.
Speaker 3: Really played that one. It's not it's not too too
hard to get in, So it's a little because it has.
Speaker 2: It has a bit of a whack battle system, because
that's the one where like, the more you use something,
the stronger it gets. And so I think people can't
overlook the fact that the like empirical best thing to
do is to attack your own party members right away.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, that's just a different kind
of grinding, is all it is. Uh, there's other weird
things about the game for sure, has some good stuff though,
Uh Pandemodium, It's final dungeon actually kind of rips, and
the song's awesome. But if you like old jerpyges, I
still think it's worth playing through the Picksfordy Master version
of that game. It's interesting. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: From Chuck Towski, shit Forever or bar forever.
Speaker 1: I mean, shitting can feel good. Barfing never feels good
unless it's like a big relief because you're that sick sometimes.
Speaker 3: But even then, like that, that's always not a good feeling,
shouldn't you You don't taste the thing you you taste
the things true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I definitely would rather be shitting
all the time than we're gonna smell bad. So like
the whole that's like the word. That's the one bad
thing about the ship is that stinks so but so
does puke. So whatever, you can wear a diaper one thing,
huh yeah yeah, I mean, look, you're you're not going
to be able to live a normal life in society
either way. It's a big problem. But I'll still take
the same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about how you know me, ninety percent
of what our relationship is. I could do for the toilet.
I can't do that for a bar fan, can That's true?
Speaker 1: Also, like maybe you can get like a like a
job just kind of like laying down manure for farmers. Yeah,
just walk in walking down the lines, right. For ship,
there's no use for puke, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can put you like in that car, and
you should.
Speaker 1: They should. You're laying ship right, Yeah, just like I
will a wheelchair with the whole cutout of it and
just go up and down the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my, see the ship thing is way better
than the fud it.
Speaker 3: It's even good for the environment and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or heroes actually, thanks Chuck, from Prickley Pete. After
watching Mike play Second Row, I got the itch to
start and play through my fourth run of the game.
Wow this time though, and this time through made him
my most replayed game, alongside Armor Core six, not counting
single sitting games like Star Fox sixty four. What games
have you guys played through the most and how many
times have you gone back to it? Oh, play a
lot of games, So this is I would have to
think about this a second.
Speaker 1: I've got a few, definitely. They're usually order ones like
the Mega Man's a bunch of them. I played multiple times.
Mag Me three I've probably played through fifty times by now,
because like it got to a point where I was
just playing that game through a sitting, like I had
an hour and I was like hours, probably pushing it
like a speed rent time, but you know, like a
few hours, I could play through Mega Man three. If
I wanted to Super Metro, I've played quite a bit.
I'm sure I've been that at least eight times by now.
Even some of the adventure games I really like, like
grimfin Dango, I've probably done six or seven times. And
that's a game that doesn't seem like it has a
lot of replay value. Yet I love going back to
it and just kind of exploring that world and just
getting engross in the story and the environments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of my favorite games are a bit shorter,
so they turn into single sitting games. Like for me,
Metroid zero Mission is a single sitting game because I
finished in less than two hours. So I probably played
that like probably over fifty times at this point in
my life. I do like at least one a year.
For a while there, I was even like trying to
speed her on it. Sorry, go ahead, Sean, I was
just going to say that my favorite game, Megan Man
Legends probably my most replayed overall, with like, you know,
the first song, that's more in the like ten plus
hour range.
Speaker 1: How many times you think you've played that m Brown.
Speaker 2: All the way through? Around a dozen? Probably.
Speaker 1: I'm not usually a person who like plays the game
immediately after beating it, but I did do that with
metroy dread Like, I beat it all the difficulties in
the lower time to get all those backgrounds. So I
played through that like five or six times, just right
when it came out, and the same the go Fresy
before remake, because you kind of slowly work your way
up to beating getting an S plus raking on that
hardest difficulty where you can only save a couple of
so many times whatever. That one I played through like
four or five times, just like right away. You know,
each time it gets pretty quick because you're not watching
the cuttings anymore. You know what to do. So like
that first play through is like, you know, twelve hours
or whatever, and then by the end you're getting through
it in three or four. Great stuff.
Speaker 2: From Alimerrickle. How Irish are you today? Apparently not at
all according to the Irish experts.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm definitely not at all. I got nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm Argentina, so am I kind of Irish? Like look,
big Christian families, the drink a lot of light to fight,
and my grandpa hates the British, so it's pretty much.
Speaker 1: Uh, how do you feel about potatoes without potatoes? We
have Irish In fact, I think potatoes actually probably originated
more near you than from Ireland, so we were connected.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 2: From Chris two K, Hello Handsome Messy boys. Although I'm
super hyped for DK Bonanza since the direct I also
can't stop thinking about Prime four and when the release
date finally drops so quick? What's your fair Metroc power up?
And why I say screw Attack, Mike, because you just
plow through everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always something about you get the screw Attack
that you're kind of like, oh, it's on, It's kind
of It's usually the point where Okay, if I was
holding back on doing any backtracking or exploring, now I
can basically do anything that I want to in this game.
Such a good name to the s they named the
whole website after it that people giving problematic for him later.
I mean it's the first thing that comes to my
mind when you say Metroy power up, so I might
have a hard I mean, wave Beam is cool, streaming
through the walls.
Speaker 2: Ice Beam is cool too. Just the fact that you
can turn enemies into platforms has always been a cool mechanic.
I think it makes you think about things a bit differently.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, but I don't know. I can't really think
of one better than screw Attech. I think you got it.
Speaker 2: Okay, only a few are here, egar Moreno, how likely
are you played Digimon story Time Stranger. I actually like
the way that game looks. I'm interested. I tried the
R Digimon story games, Cyber Sleuth and The R One
didn't really hit for me, But something about the style
of Time Stranger I'm kind of digging and how they have,
like some of the characters have almost like a fifties
vibe to them and everything. I'm curious to see how
it all comes together. So I'm interested.
Speaker 1: See, I used to really like Digitman. The thing is,
I kind of like, I do want to play digitmon game,
but I want to play something that's basically like a
modern Digitmon world more so than a really story driven thing.
So I don't know if Time Strangers necessarily going to
be for me, but maybe we'll see. We'll see what
everybody says about it.
Speaker 2: Okay. From Darth Stradius, I'm going with if Kingdom Hearts,
Final Fantasy and Persona were drinks, what would they be.
Speaker 1: Kingdom Hearts is definitely like the kind of super sweet
vacation drink you get at the pool bar. It's probably blue.
It's blue for sure, it's the blue stuff you am. Yeah, yeah,
so it's super sweet.
Speaker 2: I think that I'm seeing like a fine wine or
something for Final Fantasies on a bit age, maybe a whiskey.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, but if it's like a yeah, if it's
a cocktail, maybe more like a Manhattan something a bit classy, sure,
old school classy and old school. I would say, I'm fantasy,
say you're Manhattan. There persona something a bit more fun
and bubbly. Maybe it's even a margarita.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh sure, Mark, I was thinking maybe
like a vodka soda or something, just just something kind
of lighting. Can kind of just like take a lot
of it in, you know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of vibe something you would probably drink at
the club. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Uh, ep idiot box Happy Madison has purchased the rights
to your Favorite Ensemble movie and is planning a reboot. Okay,
which movie is It doesn't have to be a comedy,
and which one of Adam Sandler's usual Hollywood friends is replacing?
Which character?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hmm. Okay, so it's going to be
twelve angry men okay, and Kevin James is going to
play the part of the racist.
Speaker 3: Okay, I see it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Actually pop it myself with that one. Alright there, what
do you got, Sean? I got admit I think I
killed it. Good luck.
Speaker 2: I gotta know that. I was gonna say, like the
Expendables and Alm Sandler himself is just making cracks during it.
I got nothing.
Speaker 3: And furious and Torita is what did I say? Steve
stem the anti boxer guy?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Oh? Yeah, I like that. Rob Schneider,
what is a man? But now he's a shapler Snider's
a carrot?
Speaker 2: Yeah right? And after all that, Luna Land wants to say,
just want to thank you for everything you do. And
Luna Land, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Luna Land. I don't know what you do, but I
don't want to thank you for what you so thank you.
I appreciate it absolutely, all right, fantastic, thank you for
that mail bag. There, let's say one more break. We'll
come back. We'll clean up any super chests. What we've
been playing? Wrap the show up? B or B.
Speaker 2: Everybody cool?
Speaker 1: All right, we're back, Sean. What have you been playing?
Speaker 2: I well, let's see. Okay, so I was thinking about
why I would bring up here. I'll rapid fire a
couple of them, Pokemon Violet. I'm playing on the switch
to it runs well now, thank god, because it did
not before I said I wanted to play it first
and then watch the Digital Foundery video, which I did,
and yeah, it was what I figured it would be.
It's now ten eighty sixty, which is hey, that's still
a massive improvement for that game. Gless makes it very
nice looking ten eighty and everything too. So finally playing
the DLC because I said I would hold off playing
that DLC until a better switch came around, and now
I am. And now it's the first Well you like
the Hornshield DLC. The is two parts. In the first
one it is kind of just okay, But I've heard
from everyone's second one gets better, so looking forward to that.
Mario Kart World don't have a ton to add to
the conversation that's been had about that game. I think
it's I think it's pretty good. It's really good. There's
things about it that I really like. I also agree
that there's a weird lack of polish on a lot
of it now, a lot of choices that don't make sense.
Being Knockout Tour is fantastic. Maybe I think that because
I'm the weirdo who played like one hundred hours of
the Eliminator and for it's a Horizon, So I love
the idea of a racing battle royale, but yeah, there's
you can't ignore that it's a step down from eight.
Speaker 1: Blocks in a lot ways touched it in a little bit.
So yeah, you know, I've talked about my films with
Mario Kart. I definitely want to play it again. I
want to try out my camera. I do hope that
like we get new tracks and things like that, are costumes,
like relatively regularly and giving me a reason to go
back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be nice. Next up, my bedtime game is
still one hundred line Last Defense Academy I have. I'm
gonna try to talk around some things. I have finished
the main portion of the story and I'm now doing
everything else, and if you know, you know with that game,
there's a lot of everything else, and so I'm kind
of petering out a little bit. But then they keep
giving me a little something where I'm like, ooh, this
adds to the mystery. This something is solved by finding
out this. I keep going with like where this story
is going, So I'm still going with that. I think
the big one though, the big one that I've been
playing over the weekend, but around ten ish hours into
Persona FIV the Phantom X.
Speaker 1: Right right right right, I what you think of this?
Speaker 2: So if anyone doesn't know, if you haven't heard about
it or anything, it is the gotcha game Persona five.
It's like basically Atlas got a team to make a
mi Hoyo Hoyo Varse style game, sort of like you know,
Gensen Impact, Starrail and all that, but for Persona five.
And I was trying to think of, like, what's what's
the term or what's the phrase I want to use
to describe on feeling with this game, And I think
the one I selled on is Uncanny Valley.
Speaker 1: Because it's like it's it feels it's it looks like
a persona game. It kind of feels like a it's
just not quite a persona game.
Speaker 2: Hus it's so close. It's like it looks like five,
it sounds like five, It plays mostly like five, but
all these little things are off. And the weirdest part
of all of it is the fact that they are
basically retelling the story of five, but with different characters,
so it's it's not like just five for mobile. No,
it's like a rehash of five, which is it's such
a weird choice.
Speaker 1: That's something.
Speaker 3: It was like a sequel, like an actual sequel to
Persona five.
Speaker 1: Kind of Strikers already was a sequel to a Persona five.
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. Every single Persona game is actually
a sequel, like I know, like you know, Arena is
a fighting game. There's the dancing games that are rhythm
but they are actually all story sequels. So technically, yes,
it's another sequel. But what this game does is it
asks the question, Well, Joker and his friends woke up
to their metaverse powers when all this like weird crap
is going down, why couldn't just more people in the
city also do the same? And so like on the
other side of town, another group of school kids is
getting these powers and they're just hitting all the same
story beats as Persona five. And it's really weird because
maybe if you've never played the game, it's kind of
interesting how this will be like maybe a different generations
Persona five, like the mobile first generation. I think that's
what they were going for. The problem is the fact
that if you've played Persona five, you've kind of just
been here before, and because so many little things are
off or in many ways just worse because it is
like Mi ho yo, where you can you can just
play the game, but then you'll just like wander ass
backwards into a screen that has real world dollar signs
on it, and you're like, oh, I see because like
those games, you can just play using the story characters
you get, or you can add these cool looking characters
from the gotcha roles. It's a weird dynamic that companies
are doing now, but I guess that's where we're at.
So yeah, I don't know. I'm kinda I can feel
with each session that I play it, I'm falling off
a little bit more, a little bit more, because overall
the quality is there, it's just because it's a rehashing
of Persona five and it's just kind of worse in
every way. I'm thinking to myself, well, I don't really
need to play this like I would like Strikers or
Tactica or Arena or anything like that. I could just
play Persona five and get like the same feelings and
our thing. It's especially weird for me because like, like
you were there when we were doing Game of the
Year last year, like Persona means a lot to me,
Like thre reload that was my game of the year, Like,
you know, when I was going through some shit, like
that game was like therapy to me. I loved how
those characters were written and everything, like they really hit.
They really make you feel like these are fleshed out characters,
and there is a little bit of an ick factor
to like those characters being commoditized to like booster packs
that you open.
Speaker 1: You know, sure, no, I know what you mean. The
gotcha a vocation of everything, even the horse Girl games,
even the horse Girls they come in for everything, like
but yeah, yeah, it got be honest, doesn't sound like anything.
I think I'm gonna try, you know, I'm okay, I
think its own.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a download just to see
what I'm talking about. But yeah, I wouldn't like say, hey,
just stick with it and gets better, Like nah, if
you see it and you're like, I'm good, Yeah, just
get out and you'll be fine. But other people I
know are also like really digging it, so like maybe
you'll feel differently now you might, but definitely.
Speaker 3: Not you might.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to play one of these. It
would be Honky Star Reel because I like trains and
that's basically.
Speaker 2: A uh, you know what, star Reel also, I think
I think Starreel also had the advantage of it was
kind of a new and different thing to have, like yeah,
this free to play gotcha sure, which is a bad
monetization model. I don't agree with it, but it was
just like a whole new JRPG to play. And I've
compared mi Joyios games to like Bandai's Tales game, at
least in recent years, where it's like you can count
those games being like a solid eight, right, like just
a solid eight out of ten. That's kind of like,
you know, Genschen and Starrail and Zembals have sort of
been as sort of like a solid eight point. Oh
you know. So yeah, I'm just not really feeling it
with Persona five X unfortunately, So maybe I'll give it
a little more time, I know, like, but I can
kind of feel myself just petering out with it.
Speaker 1: I have been doing a couple of things. I know,
I know, I've been talking a lot about the Splatoon games,
but I did start the Auto expansion for two. Yeah
it's very good. I mean, you know, I told you
how much I like trains. I like that trains are
involved here. I do think that off the Hook is
probably my favorite uh sort of DJ group in any
of these games.
Speaker 2: I like there Marina.
Speaker 1: Marina is the best character, the arena is great, and
the playoff of Pearl is always good. They have the best, uh,
they have the best comedic repertoire amongst each other, I think. Right,
It's a good that you.
Speaker 2: Get a lot of background on them in Auto Expansion
as well, so if you like the mass characters, you'll
like find some cool stuff.
Speaker 1: It's interesting already. It's like, oh, the main campaign is
Splatoon three is much more sequel to the Octo expansion
than it is to the base Splatoon two campaign. Clearly
they were just falling down that real. But yeah, I'm
enjoying it. I want to play more. The kind of
big new thing is doing Awakening, which I did a
couple hours of on some Giant Bomb content. This is
that new survival MMO. I want to you know, I've
heard nothing but things about it. As much as I
like MMOs, I haven't done much with the survival area,
which is a whole different sort of subgenre here, but
I had a really good time with it. The loop
of just you know, gathering resources and building stuff, is good.
The game does really good job onboarding you. With all that.
I was never really confused. It's a pretty game. It's
not overwhelming me with systems. Maybe it'll get there eventually,
but right now I just have a good grasp on it.
Even early on, I was already sort of rewarded for
exploring a bit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: They make the traversal fun, which I think is so
important for a modern kind of MMO because you have
the grappling hook, you have the breath of the wild
style climbing with the stamina thing, so all of that
just makes getting around and finding little caves and whatnot
here and there pretty good. Christian was running around being
my guardian and protector as I was. Yeah, facing the
dangers of spice and worms. Playing a lot more. That's true,
You've been playing a lot more than me, Christian.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I let me see here on Steam let
me go to run. I had twenty two point five
hours and I started playing like a week ago, So yeah,
I put a funk all the time of that. Yeah,
it's really fun. I really like and I'm a doing head,
so it's double the fun for me. Like seeing like
the world and kind of stuff. They really nailed the
feeling of a rakis being the this.
Speaker 4: Like really hard to leave place there because the sound
will cook you if you if you're standing in the
if you don't find shade soon enough, you will your
character will die, which is really Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a really good fit for that. Like,
you know, I know sometimes we judg about God survival
games blah blah blah, but Dune makes a lot of
sense for this genre.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the world I see. I'm always curious
with this. Anytime there's like a license game like this,
does it tie into like the recent source material like
the movies.
Speaker 1: Or anything alternate universe baby. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whenever they do like a video and that kind
of stuff, they always go to the alternate alternate timelines
because they do. How doing this it kind of links
to it, you know. It's just you know, it's just
it's just multiple timelines that he can see at the
same time, so we're just in another timeline.
Speaker 3: It's not that it's not that.
Speaker 2: I'm not very familiar with Dune. So yeah, yeah, I'm
curious about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also going back to the to the to the feeling
of the place I like it because so the map
is said, it's not randomized, issues designed map, and but
the spawn points all that kind of stuff, they do
randomized and they show up like in different places. So
it makes it so it's very familiar to me. I
feel really familiar with the place that I've explored so far.
But at the same time it's worked like re exploring
all the time for all the stuff you can find,
all the loot. So this it feels really nice just
to run around that world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've enjoyed it. I maybe I think I'm gonna
probably dive in and play a bit more of it
when it can me. That'd be a fun game to play, well,
just watching some games don't click on a second screen.
Absolutely so, and you create a giant bomb Gil.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I agree. That is in the North America servant.
The house is thick in the citch. I'll rap if
you can, I'll lot to it afterwards.
Speaker 3: I'll post it on I do.
Speaker 1: They sounds like nonsense.
Speaker 4: If you're fluting with me on the team, I will
show up on that on the list. It will say
like your friend is playing this of your friend with
Mike or whatever. It will show the so everybody. Ilse
still will post it on Blue Ski for people to
join and then you can't choose them me and now
your character to the gil.
Speaker 3: It's really fun.
Speaker 4: Also, it has to you know, it's been a while
since a game an mmo is like pick your faction.
I feel like, just wow, did that? Things were like
you can't choose, you can choose hanging out with this NPCs.
The other NPC is not like you. So it feels
like kind of refreshing and there's a really old.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you play Dark Age of Camelot back in
the day because that was like the whole thing there.
There's like three factions and like the three separate continents
and then they fought each other. Oh yeah, that that
is some boomer ship. I'm not gonna lie. Dark Age
of Camelot was pretty sweet back in the day. Yeah,
dark Etu of Camlo was kind of the MMO in
between ever questioning World of Warcraft.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like people who were there, they knew it was sweet.
They kept trying to make success to it, and they
never really took off. All right, we got a couple
more super chets here. I'll read real quick from Alex WP.
Should I call and stick on the fourth. I'm leaning
towards hell. Yeah, absolutely, Why are they making you work
on the fourth? You know, if you're in America anyways,
call off anyways.
Speaker 2: Go for it, especially if you're overseas calling yes.
Speaker 1: Then Chris practice. Wow, Jeff shrub grew his hair back,
very handsome.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Chris Son. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much, Chris Son. Alrighty, let's start
wrapping up here. We got a long weekend to enjoy.
Play some big games, watch some games done quick on Sunday,
sleep in like crazy. That is what I like to do.
Shawn's every thing you would like to plug As this
music begins playing.
Speaker 2: Uh oh, I did update my website. If you go
to turboshan dot com, that's Sahawn. Now it's just my
link tree, so you can get up today list of
everywhere I am, my Blue Sky, my twitch where I'm
streaming a few times of the week, YouTube where I
post the odds. Oh, that's just turbo Shawn as well
if you just want to search for it. Yes, you
got everything all in one place there. And then yeah, hey,
I'm helping out over at Giant Bomb again. So I
not necessarily see my face on camera as much, you
know in the beginning here, but I'll be editing the
podcast some the ones that I used to doing the
social VIDs again and then helping out with odds and
nets here and there. I got a got a little
secret project if you know, you know, I got another
one of those going up on YouTube. That'll be a
fun one to put out, and maybe another's something I'm
going to like if I have the time for I'll
try to get out the door as well.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's great having you back.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: There's a you know, by the way, there's a there's
a weekend sale happening on a Giant Bomb right now. Sorry,
so you're gonna go black here because I have to
find what the code was going But yeah, in the
store going through, uh start to go to giant bomb
dot com and use the code GB independent independent GB.
That's what it was, right, Independent GB is the code there,
so you can get a.
Speaker 2: Merch master everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm going I just realized in the last
second here, oh, I should probably promote that. Yes, independent GB.
There Shan's face again. Fantastic that goes from Monday. They'll
save a little bit there on some summer merch or
any other merch that you want. A bunch of Mikey
Mouse wearing a bunch of it earlier, although accidentally cooked
while I was wearing my We bought a bomb shirt
and got it a little dirty, so I had to
throw that. Oh god, that's in the wash. I gotta
put in the dry er. Now. I always do that.
I washed things. I forget to dry them, and I
gotta do it before they get all.
Speaker 2: Right next to each other.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's downstairs. I don't think about it.
I put there. I did too much for dinner today.
I had I cooked a whole skirt steak and it
was delicious, but it was smoky, and it took forever.
It was a hole to do. The music is playing
us out, beg everybody, I have a great take care,
be safe.
Speaker 3: Cover with.
Speaker 4: My Dixie.
Speaker 1: We turned that bad boy on, and how it comes.
All right, we're out, all right, all right, we can
get back to it, all right. I can read the
super chats.
Speaker 2: You okay, if you if you already gotten pulled off,
that would be great. I still start of collating the
mail bag.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, let's just bring it back all right, cool,
all right, breake, do.
Speaker 1: You wanna go grab a drink or do you wanna
all right, let's just get too weet.
Speaker 3: You had that mail bag ready.
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, I got all ready to go. I
kind of just filled it up. I also didn't serve
an add everyone paying in case I won't want to
get in here. So if we go along, we just
you know, stop at certain point, I'll drop them into
the next one.
Speaker 1: You know, sure that's good to me?
Speaker 2: A quick breaker?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I do need to take the bog on
all right, Christian chat for a little.
Speaker 4: Bit, Carman and Chance at Rush night. Sally is a
big drum kad. That's why Sally the rush Nader is
always suck. I know, like it was like that makes sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that checks out right if you take that on anyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that makes sense. I mean I
always hated it, oh my, ever since I've been a kid.
I hated him. When he shows up in What's the
and we were out of salary? Steals a kid? What's
the name of that movie?
Speaker 2: I forget?
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched a lot of like Adam Sandler movies,
and like.
Speaker 4: A Jason big Daddy, big daddy, Yeah that one, Hey daddy, Okay, yeah,
it's not like you from.
Speaker 3: The uh what's from the Daily Show? Guy?
Speaker 4: It's late people. I didn't even work out today, so
I don't know. I'm tired anyways.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're on our schedule. It's been a long week. Yeah,
and we still have a lot of random crap in
this rundown.
Speaker 3: Steals I don't know. Yeah, pronunciation is far Mikey. Yeah, yeah,
he's a piece of ship.
Speaker 2: Why is it so good being a piece of shell screen?
I wonder.
Speaker 3: Like the guy from Severn No severance? Oh brought u
the one where all kids say they're fighting for the
for the money of the day. The other one succession?
Speaker 2: There you go, con passion. Okay, okay, you're close close
enough ever succession? Basically the guy. The guy is announce
on the show that in real life, you know what, Christian,
you should take tomorrow off, just take the fourth of
July off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we claim you, Christian? You're one of us,
aren't you excited?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Finally never been a better time.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we're having good times everybody. Okay, how we
already bring it back with this last super change i'm playing.
I want to take a little bit done. I've been
playing a lot of Doom, so she's follow me in
terms of knowledge, all right,