Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
Speaker 2: Welcome to part two of our Beverly Hills Housewife recap.
Speaker 2: Why didn't I say it like that? Y'all?
Speaker 3: Y'all if you haven't, if you didn't, go listen to
Speaker 3: part one. It's kind of delicious. It might be one
Speaker 3: of our better recaps. I'm not saying it's the best.
Speaker 3: You've ever heard so many stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked a lot about personal meetings with Lisa
Speaker 2: vander Pump.
Speaker 4: Stuff that's gone down.
Speaker 3: Plus, if you're a ninety Day the other Way fan,
Speaker 3: you're just gonna find some magic there, because holy shit.
Speaker 2: Now you told a story about meeting Lisa vander Pump
Speaker 2: and I haven't told my but I think you reminded
Speaker 2: me of my Kyle story we talked.
Speaker 3: About last week. We talked about last week on air. Okay,
Speaker 3: yeah we did, because we both I met Kyle first
Speaker 3: season and she was really nice and warm and we
Speaker 3: took a picture. And then Steph had met her first
Speaker 3: season and she was really nice, and then she met
Speaker 3: her again when she got a little little fame behind us.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, here's the thing which I just which just
Speaker 2: the quick little backstory. It's just because it's interesting to me,
Speaker 2: which is that our daughters, Porsche and my daughter Sadie
Speaker 2: are the pretty much the exact same age. So it's
Speaker 2: been so interesting, you know, because Porscha's been in scenes
Speaker 2: off and on throughout the years and I and when
Speaker 2: our kids were like, I mean, they must have been
Speaker 2: eight or nine. I gotta say it was a while ago. Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 2: oh maybe even yeh maybe maybe seven because so they
Speaker 2: were so they went to this same little theater program.
Speaker 2: So this was a couple of years after I met
Speaker 2: her at yogurt at the yogurt place and chatted with her,
Speaker 2: and that was after literally season one, and I had
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about Camille, and she was totally
Speaker 2: open with me because it was so early. And then
Speaker 2: at the end of that, I was like, Hey, would
Speaker 2: you ever want to come on my podcast? And she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you have to like go through my
Speaker 2: publicity for that, and then I tried and I never
Speaker 2: heard back. But a couple of years later, our kids
Speaker 2: were in this same theater program and it was really small,
Speaker 2: and we would hang out in the lobby because you know,
Speaker 2: she went a few times and then I think she
Speaker 2: sent a nanny or like her driver. A couple of times.
Speaker 2: But the couple times that she was there, I did
Speaker 2: remind her. I was like, hey, I met you and
Speaker 2: we talked about the show or whatever. And it was
Speaker 2: weird because our kids were in the same thing, and
Speaker 2: usually heir the moms will like kind of bond with
Speaker 2: each other, but she did. She didn't want any part
Speaker 2: of a friend like she was like, oh cool, And
Speaker 2: then that was I say it like that, like oh cool, yeah,
Speaker 2: really cold, yeah yeah, because that was the thing you
Speaker 2: were referring to when you were like, but you remember
Speaker 2: you don't like her, and I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I could also understand at that point she was
Speaker 2: pretty famous, so I could understand you're going to be
Speaker 2: trapped with this mom and you're Kyle and everybody knows you,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't necessarily want to seem like
Speaker 2: I'm open to being besties with you just because our
Speaker 2: kids are in the same theater thing. Then also our kids.
Speaker 2: You know how some of these theater things, when they're
Speaker 2: doing a play, they put them in separate casts, right,
Speaker 2: So my daughter wasn't in the same cast with her daughter,
Speaker 2: So then I didn't really see her because the rehearsals
Speaker 2: would be a different time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and like it's fair.
Speaker 4: Yeah we can't.
Speaker 3: You know, some people aren't like, oh my god, you know,
Speaker 3: because she doesn't know who's coming at or because the
Speaker 3: show she doesn't know. So I understand like trying to
Speaker 3: keep a little bit of like a little something up,
Speaker 3: little protection.
Speaker 2: But it's just been interesting to me to watch it
Speaker 2: because I'm always like, it's so funny because our daughter,
Speaker 2: like everything her daughter's doing, like my daughter was doing,
Speaker 2: Like when her daughter was getting her driver's license, like
Speaker 2: my daughter was getting. You know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 2: been kind of fun. Right night when I see her
Speaker 2: daughter like cooking with her or whatever, I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, like our kids are seventeen mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Anyway, You're like, in many ways, we could just switch
Speaker 3: lives and no one would ever be Everyone wouldn't like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say, it's none, you'd be none the wiser. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you could forgive bread. So what you're saying is
Speaker 3: what you said to her is like would you be
Speaker 3: willing to take a coin? Hear me out at midnight?
Speaker 3: Hear me out, take a coin. It's there's a lightning
Speaker 3: there's not often lightning here, but there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: lightning storm tonight. Would you be willing to throw a
Speaker 3: coin into the grove fountain at the same time as
Speaker 3: me make a wish and then like maybe switch lives?
Speaker 2: So like hear me out, hear me out, Like just
Speaker 2: at my garage converted? So my house is not as
Speaker 2: small as it was before? Is it not probably as
Speaker 2: clean as? Do I have a cleaning person?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I don't, but I think, you know, I still think
Speaker 2: you'd be comfortable.
Speaker 4: And you think she's just a real snob.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I don't really want to do that,
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, okay, Kyle, I guess everybody was
Speaker 3: right about you. All you have to do, here's the coin.
Speaker 3: I'll even give you the coin. Is that the problem?
Speaker 3: You just have to say this like witches thing. It's
Speaker 3: not a bit. Oh my god, Kyle, they're so high maintenance.
Speaker 3: Just throw.
Speaker 2: Then I come back and do the podcast with you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, first of all, you've been so right
Speaker 2: about Kyle. What a couz you're not.
Speaker 4: Going to do this?
Speaker 3: I mean I was supplying the coin. I don't and
Speaker 3: it doesn't even always work. I wouldn't even know until
Speaker 3: we did it if it worked. My god, she's so
Speaker 3: used to living in like a fifteen thousand square foot house.
Speaker 4: Okay, we get it, you're rich.
Speaker 2: Okay, my house is only twenty four hundred square feet. Fine,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a little bit where I don't have
Speaker 2: a walk in closet, Okay, Kyle, Queen Kyle, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm mad at. I cannot believe she wouldn't switch lives
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: I just think it's really weird and it's not even
Speaker 3: it's like full bodies and then you're like, did you
Speaker 3: not see this substance?
Speaker 4: And she's like, I don't even see how that applies here.
Speaker 3: That's like a crazy first off, that's a terrible reference.
Speaker 3: But it's also like, so you're saying one of us
Speaker 3: is much aren't we the same age?
Speaker 2: Kyle's like, I'm actually a few years younger than you,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, she'smore.
Speaker 3: You can be, Oh my god, Kyle. Fine, I just
Speaker 3: feel I just do a total derea.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kyle, I'm not going to follow you around like
Speaker 2: a puppy dog anymore, bitch. She's like, I don't even
Speaker 2: Kyle's like, I don't even know you at all.
Speaker 3: But even if I did know you, like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to agree to substance with you, like it becomes
Speaker 3: a worth Okay, So dere goes over to Bose's house. Yes,
Speaker 3: and both and Erica Bose is okay. And I'm not
Speaker 3: exaggerating when I tell you that she is sprinkling gold
Speaker 3: dust on her fruit plate. That's the thing that you
Speaker 3: can get that, But like, who would get it?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say a couple of things here. I
Speaker 3: do not like to take off your shoes person. I'm
Speaker 3: just I've never I.
Speaker 4: Don't get it.
Speaker 3: I get why, and I'm maybe after COVID I get
Speaker 3: it a little bit like, come on, don't make them
Speaker 3: take they're very nice shoes. I'm sure, like, don't make
Speaker 3: them take the shoes off.
Speaker 2: Do you like that?
Speaker 4: No? No, I don't like obnoxious.
Speaker 2: Also, also, why and this is going across a couple
Speaker 2: of franchises and it feels like a couple with the kids.
Speaker 2: Why are we trying to make everyone's kids happen on
Speaker 2: the show? I know, well that's the original show.
Speaker 3: Though the original Housewives was a lot about kids, Originally
Speaker 3: it wasn't super rich people. It was just your average
Speaker 3: kind of middle to upper class middle people. I mean,
Speaker 3: people had nice houses, some more than others, but some
Speaker 3: of them just were just like normal housewives, the real
Speaker 3: housewives with a lot of kids. So that was that
Speaker 3: was the original show. Okay, I mean I don't it
Speaker 3: hasn't been that way for a long time, but you know.
Speaker 2: Right, well, okay, so her son is sitting at the
Speaker 2: little breakfast the kitchen counter kind of thing, being part
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 3: He seemed adorable. I missed that completely. You did to talk.
Speaker 3: I must have fast forward. I was fast forwarding through
Speaker 3: a commercial, so maybe I went too far.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because before the before Darit and Era
Speaker 2: could get there and tough to take off their shoes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she's preparing her like a fruit platter kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and her and her and she's asking her son questions
Speaker 2: like do you think they're gonna I don't remember, something
Speaker 2: to the effect of like, oh, these women are coming
Speaker 2: over to my house, and kind of giving her her
Speaker 2: son backstory, and it was it was fine, okay.
Speaker 3: So fine and the house we can say this, and
Speaker 3: I'm not scared of both because I think she's amazing,
Speaker 3: and she knows that she listens and she knows I
Speaker 3: love her. But that house, there's a lot. It's okay,
Speaker 3: a lot, we'll say it. We'll keep it like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's awful.
Speaker 4: Let's just say we're doing a thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, we're like, okay, now I get
Speaker 3: you a Bose cameo and we now have to like
Speaker 3: edit that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting because you I'm going to say this,
Speaker 2: which is just interesting. Why didn't they didn't really show
Speaker 2: the full exterior of the house. They showed when the people,
Speaker 2: when the ladies were parking, they kind of show you
Speaker 2: what's across the street, and it's like a chain link
Speaker 2: fence that's uh like locked, it's across the street. I
Speaker 2: felt like, this is a woman who's just like a
Speaker 2: crazy millionaire, most successful woman. And I was like, how
Speaker 2: come they're not letting us seat?
Speaker 3: They always show why, you know exactly why I don't
Speaker 3: want to let tell people. I mean, I'm sure after
Speaker 3: what happened to Drea and Kyle, Yeah, don't show those houses?
Speaker 2: Don't Why do they show everybody?
Speaker 1: They show?
Speaker 2: They always show Kyle's house. I mean they show Suttons.
Speaker 3: I guess now that because it's already out there, Kyle
Speaker 3: has been out there. I mean, if I had been Kyle.
Speaker 3: I love Kyle's house. It is my favorite of all
Speaker 3: the houses. I love the exterior, I love the whatever
Speaker 3: cape cod of it.
Speaker 4: I love it. But I would have moved.
Speaker 3: I would have moved and never sat and said, you
Speaker 3: can't show my I don't want that. That's interesting, Okay.
Speaker 3: I would have moved to a gated community for sure.
Speaker 3: Like they got Yeah, that was terrible what happened? Okay,
Speaker 3: So Dree is explaining to Bo's She's like, what's up, Like,
Speaker 3: what's going on? She's explaining about Kyle being all mad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's she protects.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting when they have a new person on
Speaker 2: the show, they have to like tell their whole backstory
Speaker 2: because Bose is like, yeah, why how come you're not
Speaker 2: getting along and why and why is Kyle mad at you?
Speaker 2: And Dree it's like, well, her story keeps changing. Okay,
Speaker 2: Number and then we find out the different stories we
Speaker 2: go through it. Number one, being asked about my marriage
Speaker 2: on camera. She doesn't like being asked about her marriage
Speaker 2: on camera. So and okay, I support Kyle in this.
Speaker 2: The girl, the women, the other women. I'm just this
Speaker 2: is one moment. Okay, forgive me. But they were coming
Speaker 2: for Kyle last season. Yes they were. They kept asking
Speaker 2: her straight up about the Morgan thing. They were pushing it.
Speaker 2: I understand that Kyle was queer baiting a little bit.
Speaker 2: I get it, but it didn't help that they were
Speaker 2: constantly sniping at her to camera, asking her questions, what's
Speaker 2: going on with your marriage, Kyle? It was weird?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was weird. They're all weird whole a
Speaker 3: bunch of assholes, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say this. And then number two,
Speaker 2: they said Durite says when she uh, I, when she said,
Speaker 2: I think Kathy just wants some support, I'm going to
Speaker 2: say I thought that was bitchy. I thought it was bitchy.
Speaker 2: I don't know why these women, Kyle and her sister
Speaker 2: do not get along. Well, Kathy's horrible. Kathy is racist
Speaker 2: and she's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 2: She's kind of as She's been very mean to Kyle.
Speaker 2: And when she's mean to Kyle and not speaking to Kyle,
Speaker 2: they all still make a big show of being friends
Speaker 2: with Kathy. Because they're all scared of her. Thank you,
Speaker 2: She's got.
Speaker 3: A lot of money. And there's there was well, there
Speaker 3: was the huge thing with Mauricio and her husband Rick Hilton.
Speaker 2: Yes, which we're going to get to in this We're
Speaker 2: going to get to that later. But I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I don't think that Kyle's completely wrong in the fact
Speaker 2: that she felt and it came out at the reunion
Speaker 2: when they're like, well, Kathy just wants support. If I
Speaker 2: was Kyle, I'd be like, fuck you. You're supposed to be
Speaker 2: my friend, right and dearit is mad because Kyle hasn't
Speaker 2: been a good friend. But I don't necessarily think Dured's
Speaker 2: been the greatest friend of Kyle either. I agree, I
Speaker 2: totally agree with you on that.
Speaker 3: And then on the flip side, we have that conversation,
Speaker 3: then we'd go back to Sutton and Kyle.
Speaker 2: But first, but first, Deurite make sure to say that
Speaker 2: like basically number three is like and now she's bringing
Speaker 2: up Bravocon, you know about the like oh saying that
Speaker 2: I'm not number one of the Richard sisters. And then
Speaker 2: but to make that the big thing, and she's like,
Speaker 2: and I feel like she's just grasping at straws, which
Speaker 2: is true. It is true on that note, but I
Speaker 2: feel like she kind of glossed over those other things.
Speaker 2: How come she didn't speak on Yeah, I guess I'm
Speaker 2: good friends with Kathy and I kind of rubbed that
Speaker 2: in her face.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't see I didn't think that was a problem.
Speaker 3: So we had talked about that before, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't see why she can't be friends with Kathy.
Speaker 3: I don't know why she would be I don't I
Speaker 3: don't get Kathy at all, but like she's allowed, especially
Speaker 3: if Kyle's kind of.
Speaker 4: Pushing her away and she already kind of became friend.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's a little shady, but Kyle can't have
Speaker 3: it both ways. She also can't control everybody else's relationships.
Speaker 3: But you know what, trusting back to being mad at Kyle,
Speaker 3: I just I always liked her until this season.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but let's let's just say this, It's interesting
Speaker 2: when you look back, Lisa Rinna is the only one
Speaker 2: that fully did not give a fuck about Kathy. Yeah, remember,
Speaker 2: and she called out her bullshit, yes yes, and outed
Speaker 2: her for like being shitty.
Speaker 3: I think Lisa did too a little bit, because Lisa
Speaker 3: is not going to put up with any anti LGBT.
Speaker 3: Lisa's like a big you know ally, so I don't
Speaker 3: think she was up Kathy's ass either. She certainly doesn't
Speaker 3: need her. Lisa has more money than anyone. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a toss up by they're all you know,
Speaker 3: but like I don't. I don't remember her being all
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 2: That whole thing when they went to Where'd they Go? Tahoe?
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 2: But I mean he was being really awful to Kyle
Speaker 2: in that episode, and Lisa Rinna is the one who's
Speaker 2: stuck up for Kyle. Yes, yes, yes, I was like, No,
Speaker 2: Kathy sucks and she actively get an asshole right anyway,
Speaker 2: it does suck, okay, but the rest of them don't
Speaker 2: stick up for Kyle. That's the thing. So they're not
Speaker 2: the greatest friend ever. But whatever. Okay, So Bo's is like,
Speaker 2: but Kyle stormed off, and then Darek says, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: because she thought she'd do what she always does, which
Speaker 2: is think I can walk all over Durt.
Speaker 4: But she can't.
Speaker 3: So yeah, dash over to Kyle discussing it was Sutton
Speaker 3: go ahead and she's saying something that it's true. Kyle says, dereite,
Speaker 3: you know, lacks self awareness. And I'll give her that.
Speaker 3: I will give her that. There's a world in which
Speaker 3: Dark could say like, sorry, Kyle, I shouldn't have mentioned,
Speaker 3: but I think she does. I think she is kind
Speaker 3: of a pushover. I think she has sort of apologized
Speaker 3: and is just tired of like bowing down to Kyle
Speaker 3: right a little bit. Now here's something I didn't understand. So, Kyle,
Speaker 3: they're having this conversation back and forth, you can clear
Speaker 3: this up. And Kyle says to Sutton about durit, like, well,
Speaker 3: you made your bed, now you lie in it or whatever.
Speaker 3: What does that mean? What does she even mean by that?
Speaker 3: She's never as nice as she pretends to be. She's
Speaker 3: like she's she's manipulative and conniving. She just does it
Speaker 3: in a like kind of secretive way. I just don't
Speaker 3: even know what she means by that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, what are you gonna do, Kyle? Like,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do to her? Fuck her over completely?
Speaker 3: Especially maybe she means with p K. So Erica is like,
Speaker 3: then you go back to Erica and she's like, well,
Speaker 3: I can see both sides, and then she's like, how's PK.
Speaker 3: She knows how PK is Eric is being all shady,
Speaker 3: she knows what's going on, right, and then dereit again
Speaker 3: does the thing where she's like, yeah, I mean, since
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if I had mentioned, but
Speaker 3: he has a very bad drinking problems, Like, we get it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of his story to tell, really, but okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get it on her end too, because if she's
Speaker 3: secretly been propping him up all this time and now
Speaker 3: she feels she's getting fucked over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was interesting though, because now is
Speaker 2: when we find out she says like, She's like, well,
Speaker 2: he's working and he's staying in a hotel. And then
Speaker 2: she says, but in the past, when he was drinking,
Speaker 2: he would just take off for weeks at a time,
Speaker 2: But we never knew that. Everything was always like only
Speaker 2: last season did she start to say that PK doesn't
Speaker 2: really isn't supporting her in her PTSD. But she never
Speaker 2: to all that stuff was happening off camera. We heard
Speaker 2: about his dui, that there was another woman in the car,
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean they do a good job, so Bo's,
Speaker 3: I mean, the shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so weird. So Bo's is like, so
Speaker 2: are you waiting to see what will happen before you
Speaker 2: tell the kids? Like because basically Duret's like, well, they
Speaker 2: don't notice any difference because he was never there anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she keeps throwing him under the bus for sure. And
Speaker 2: then Bo's is like, is there any chance for like,
Speaker 2: you guys will get back together? She's like, you never know, maybe.
Speaker 3: Right, which we find out might not be true. So
Speaker 3: then Sutton is doing something, some dumb thing at her house.
Speaker 3: I just like her assistant that she has been trying
Speaker 3: to make happen for a long time, which I'm not
Speaker 3: into him.
Speaker 2: So this part was so dumb because it's like a setup.
Speaker 2: It's like a far. It's very farcical. She's, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna do a pizza and Pj's party because Kyle's been
Speaker 2: down in the dumps. And then I was like, are
Speaker 2: they doing it at Kathy's? Like what is the deal?
Speaker 2: But we're going to find out. No, they're going to
Speaker 2: go surprise Kyle, which nobody's getting surprised on a TV show.
Speaker 2: We're not do they think we're that dumb.
Speaker 3: They're also doing such like a Laverne and Shirley. Yes,
Speaker 3: oh they're so silly. Kathy's just still still well, let's
Speaker 3: get let's do it in order, so Kathy so Erica
Speaker 3: comes over right, And this is beforehand, is before they
Speaker 3: keep planning. They're playing yeah for no reason, just to
Speaker 3: have a scene. And this is when they share that
Speaker 3: the picture that of Kyle and mo I guess was
Speaker 3: replaced with mo from the lady that he was hooking
Speaker 3: up with on Dancing with the Stars, who.
Speaker 2: Was like, that was like a girl. I mean she's
Speaker 2: so young, yes, and that was all that was like
Speaker 2: a page six kind of story. And they're hot holding
Speaker 2: hands with this girl from Dancing with the Stars, and
Speaker 2: everybody knew Kyle was bummed about it, and now he
Speaker 2: replaced the picture.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me push back. Okay, I'm gonna push back.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: You know I was thinking that I like, oh, poor Kyle,
Speaker 3: because she is always she's always the victim, or she
Speaker 3: says everybody else is the victim. She can't and I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: She was getting multiple tattoos of Morgan like she and
Speaker 3: inside jokes about her lover Morgan constantly, and Moe was
Speaker 3: not loving it, and he was respectful of it. He
Speaker 3: didn't ever say on camera, so like, what you're like
Speaker 3: fucking Morgan now, like now this is your thing.
Speaker 4: Not that he hasn't cheated. I do believe he's been
Speaker 4: cheating for years.
Speaker 2: Oh the story, but he was.
Speaker 3: But she was doing all this and being she was
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I just don't think you can have it
Speaker 3: both ways. She was permanently getting like Morgan related things
Speaker 3: tattooed on her body over and over, and Moe was
Speaker 3: just like, uh huh, you're getting different another one okay,
Speaker 3: Like they were just torturing each other. I guess I
Speaker 3: just I there's a world in which he'd be like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm at my you know, we're getting separated. I'm really
Speaker 3: not happy with her getting all these tattoos of Morgan
Speaker 3: with Morgan and now I got to sit at this
Speaker 3: desk and see her picture all the time. No, he
Speaker 3: shouldn't have put it. But like, I think he was
Speaker 3: really proud of dancing with the stars, So maybe he's
Speaker 3: trying to say we weren't together. It was just it's
Speaker 3: just a fun thing a by dancing with the stars picture. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not great. I'm not defending Mo. It sounds like
Speaker 3: I am, but I'm just saying, Kyle, you can't have
Speaker 3: it both ways.
Speaker 4: You really can't.
Speaker 2: What I'm hearing. Mm hmmm, tell me if I'm misreading
Speaker 2: you here. Okay, not trying to, I promise you I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to start an argument. But do you have
Speaker 2: feelings for Mo? Is that now what I'm hearing?
Speaker 3: It's funny, yes, And I when I got the cameo, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, if you if you listen to part one,
Speaker 3: you know that Stephanie got me a birthday cameo of
Speaker 3: Sarper from a ninety day. At first I thought it
Speaker 3: was MO, and I was like, I hope it. I mean,
Speaker 3: here's my Now we'll finally have our chance together. So yes, okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm not crazy. That is what I was picking
Speaker 3: up on.
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to get like super defensive,
Speaker 2: because no, you do get defensive about MO.
Speaker 3: I mean yet, yes, and then you find out it's
Speaker 3: a picture of me and Mo, Like when did you
Speaker 3: meet Mo? We've been doing show for so long, like
Speaker 3: you guys are really we're just good friends.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to interject one really quick story, because
Speaker 2: this last night I took my we took our twins
Speaker 2: out for their seventeenth birthday, and we were having we
Speaker 2: were reminiscing about the time that for my birthday. I
Speaker 2: guess it was my birthday that we went. We all
Speaker 2: went out for sushi, and Mauricio was there with Porsche.
Speaker 2: Do you remember you remember the story? And I wanted
Speaker 2: a picture because I was. I texted you and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Mauricio just walked in and
Speaker 2: I Mauricio walked into the restaurant. I look up, I
Speaker 2: see it's Marie. My brain goes, oh shit, that's Mauricio.
Speaker 2: And then he comes walking towards us, like right like
Speaker 2: right past me. We make eye contact and I almost
Speaker 2: was like Hi. I almost said hi, because it was
Speaker 2: so it was like, Oh, that's Mauricio. But then I
Speaker 2: realized in the moment, oh god, that would be so weird.
Speaker 2: Do not say hi. That's so weird. And then he's
Speaker 2: They sat at a table directly behind us, which gave
Speaker 2: me a horrible, horrible anxiety because then everybody was like
Speaker 2: what mom, what, what's going on? And they were all
Speaker 2: looking and I was like.
Speaker 4: You were getting, Matt, you told me you were getting.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got really upset. Yeah, I got really upset.
Speaker 2: It was a thing. Got very upset. I got. I
Speaker 2: snapped at everybody at the table. I was like, stop,
Speaker 2: don't look, stop it because I just got I just
Speaker 2: got really self conscious and anxious. And I also wanted
Speaker 2: them to take a picture so that I could send
Speaker 2: it to you a sneaky pick. I got sneaky picks,
Speaker 2: which they did, and then I sent you the picture
Speaker 2: and you could clearly see Mauricio sitting right behind me.
Speaker 3: With your new lover and mm hmm, which they mentioned
Speaker 3: a couple of times. So then speaking of I.
Speaker 2: Mentioned that they that Mauricio had dinner behind me.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: They did get there, like Stephanie of Rose Pricks and
Speaker 3: for crying out loud and bord a f all the
Speaker 3: things author comedian Stephanie. That's crazy, I know, they said
Speaker 3: all they said, I can't believe you missed that. You
Speaker 3: must have been fast forwarding. Wow, they said it like
Speaker 3: four times. I should have mentioned that I should screen
Speaker 3: grab that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So, Kyle, now we're going to disagree on this one,
Speaker 3: and that's okay. That's that's where we have different perspectives. Okay,
Speaker 3: I get a little triggered, Like, so Kyle's you know,
Speaker 3: now her house which was full and like a lot
Speaker 3: of the daughters have moved out and now Mauricio's gone.
Speaker 3: I get that, it's it's a big change, but I
Speaker 3: sometimes have a hard time when she like she calls
Speaker 3: her daughter and she's like, okay, so you're not going
Speaker 3: to come home for dinner?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Then she's sitting in her like big bed with her
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars map, you know, sheets or whatever,
Speaker 3: and she's just like, it's just I just wrote, like
Speaker 3: is it okay to be alone for five minutes?
Speaker 4: Allone?
Speaker 2: Also, funny enough, she's not alone because Portia's camera CRUI,
Speaker 2: Corsia's there, Herscha's there, camera crew is there, and her
Speaker 2: daughter is there, which, yes, if you're a Porsche, aren't you, Like, well,
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I?
Speaker 4: She keeps dismissing Porsia.
Speaker 2: She's like, Sophie, Sophia, and it's coming home. Why is
Speaker 2: Sophia out at a movie with her friend? When mom
Speaker 2: sat and depressed. Porscha's like, dude, I'm here, I'm right here,
Speaker 2: right here.
Speaker 3: And also just like be okay, like a lot of
Speaker 3: US binge television alone, like I've I'm not, and I'm
Speaker 3: it's not that I'm envious of what she had. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think what she had was amazing, but like just
Speaker 3: be alone for like a day a year, have take
Speaker 3: a second. Well, also, like you, I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure that she's still seeing Morgan, So it's like
Speaker 2: is Morgan on tour?
Speaker 4: I just don't like the Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that, but I just don't like
Speaker 3: the narrative of like what am I gonna do now?
Speaker 4: Okay, Scarlet, I don't know a lot of friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's really wealthy, so you can do anything
Speaker 3: you want, actually, because then it shows her later and
Speaker 3: she's like, look at my she has Burkins that she's
Speaker 3: always and like I'm going to you know, Wherever Island,
Speaker 3: which is great, like awesome.
Speaker 4: I would brag the shit about that stuff. But it's
Speaker 4: like it's okay to do it by yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you don't need more like just that, and
Speaker 3: you know, you know me, so that annoys me a
Speaker 3: little bit to get it. I mean yeah, it's sort
Speaker 3: of like, yes, it still doesn't make it easy to
Speaker 3: go through any of what she's going through, but it's
Speaker 3: probably a little easier than a lot of people have it.
Speaker 2: I also felt personally like this was they were trying
Speaker 2: to make this a bit like Sex and the City
Speaker 2: or sex and like like that. The girls from the
Speaker 2: show are her best friends, like Carrie's right, right, Like
Speaker 2: Carrie's best friends were, you know whatever, her best friends
Speaker 2: on the show, and that if they came over or
Speaker 2: if they missed her birthday or whatever, it was the
Speaker 2: worst thing. But these are her show friends that because
Speaker 2: we're going to you know, like that, are going to
Speaker 2: try to cheer her up. Well I guess it's her
Speaker 2: sister too, but still okay, so speaking, so that's a
Speaker 2: good segue because now we see them in the limo
Speaker 2: and they're doing this like little trickery. We're gonna come over.
Speaker 2: And I do not understand what Kathy does.
Speaker 3: She think that Amazon is pronounced Amazon because she keeps
Speaker 3: saying Amazon, and I don't think she's kidding.
Speaker 4: She is insane.
Speaker 2: I think they she doesn't probably ever use Amazon. She's
Speaker 2: so bizarre and out of touch. She's ridiculus. There's something off.
Speaker 3: I mean, not just like oh, she's insane, and they
Speaker 3: treat her like she's so funny, like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: she's John Laney. It's John mullaney over here. It's not
Speaker 3: John mulaney. Nothing she has said is funny. So now
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, so when we get to the front gate,
Speaker 3: I guess she does have a gate, but that's just
Speaker 3: her gate. Like when we get to the gate, you're
Speaker 3: gonna say you're the Amazon driver, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: what is the joke.
Speaker 2: No, there is no joke. And this is where I said.
Speaker 2: They're trying to make this like some kind of like
Speaker 2: weird farcical thing, like a comedy of errors, like oh oh,
Speaker 2: Amazon calling, like and then the dog gets out, oh oh,
Speaker 2: and then oh my god, Kyle's acting for an actual actress.
Speaker 2: This was so poorly acted. She's like, wait, what Amazon's here?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I've got to let Amazon in?
Speaker 3: Yes, and is.
Speaker 4: There a doorbell ringing? Says Porsche. Yes.
Speaker 3: As they run for they it's like yeah, because the
Speaker 3: cameras you notice that they're running towards the door.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the dog got out, Doggie, Doggie.
Speaker 3: Within the gate by the way, dog got out in
Speaker 3: a gated. They haven't opened the thing for Amazon yet.
Speaker 3: None of that made sense.
Speaker 2: And then she running back with the dog, but where's
Speaker 2: the Amazon guy?
Speaker 3: Amazon? Then they do they do the dumb thing. They
Speaker 3: come in, They're like, okay, we're gonna go to the door,
Speaker 3: and they're hiding. She's like, oh, I'm nervous, and they
Speaker 3: open and it's like, oh, it's you guys.
Speaker 2: Why would she open the door? First of all, you've
Speaker 2: got a ring cam, you've got all the stuff, you've
Speaker 2: got cameras, but you're so you know they're fucking there.
Speaker 2: And if you had cameras, I'm just saying, I know
Speaker 2: this is ridiculous to even talk about, but if there
Speaker 2: was nobody in front of the door and your doorhead
Speaker 2: rang and you let somebody in your gate, would you
Speaker 2: really just open the door? No? R And you have
Speaker 2: no hampers outside your gate. You know full fucking well
Speaker 2: that these girls and the camera crews in your house
Speaker 2: all set up to do this scene for the night.
Speaker 3: So stop.
Speaker 2: This is just didn't work. Whoever planned this scene was
Speaker 2: so dumb.
Speaker 4: It's so so stupid.
Speaker 3: So now they're all Kathy Sudden Erica whatever, they're all
Speaker 3: having pizza and they all just think Kathy stuff.
Speaker 4: She's like doing the robot.
Speaker 3: She's like speaking into cups and she makes no sense,
Speaker 3: and they're all like laughing, like, oh god, we're just
Speaker 3: little kids again.
Speaker 2: And they're also they're also like, hey, guys, this is
Speaker 2: really super fun us just being girls, like just normal
Speaker 2: people having fun. But where is Garcel? I guess Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then there's like, oh, because now we flash to
Speaker 3: Garcel very excited about doing Black Girl Missing Too.
Speaker 2: Which is is this just going to be the story?
Speaker 2: Is it just going to be like Garcel's and she's
Speaker 2: just super successful and she's so so so busy.
Speaker 4: Is that productions?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're all like, oh my gosh, Garcel is
Speaker 2: so incredibly busy. But she will be back soon.
Speaker 3: She is killing it with the Black Girl two productions
Speaker 3: with Garcel.
Speaker 4: Yay.
Speaker 3: So then Kyle comes back and she's like it's just
Speaker 3: been a really hard time, and they flash back to
Speaker 3: ten noses ago when she's twenty three with you know,
Speaker 3: she's like, we were so young. It's like, yeah, we know,
Speaker 3: we've been following the journey with you, Kyle. We know
Speaker 3: you're all twenty three. It's I mean, look I post
Speaker 3: it all the time about like how young I once was.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: It's not really her fault, but it is really funny
Speaker 3: to see like, well, okay, here, I will push back
Speaker 3: a little bit because you know, I mean she is
Speaker 3: getting divorced, yes, of course, and she didn't post that
Speaker 3: it's production and show.
Speaker 2: It, so like, you know, and she's her point is
Speaker 2: too that you know, she's like she's spent her whole life,
Speaker 2: her whole adult life, has been with this guy that
Speaker 2: she probably thought she was going to grow old with.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think for a long time she
Speaker 3: didn't think that to be true. I think she was
Speaker 3: trying to make it work. I totally get that. But
Speaker 3: you know, the he will never emotionally fulfill you, Alison,
Speaker 3: the medium, like we knew way back ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I think it was probably out there that it wasn't great.
Speaker 4: Which is okay.
Speaker 3: Not everything's got its issues, doesn't mean they're gonna split.
Speaker 3: I get your point. Kathy is trying to be a
Speaker 3: good friend here, a good sister. She's kind of mocking
Speaker 3: Moe's insta, which is what I would want you to do.
Speaker 3: You know, she's like making fun of but but Kyle
Speaker 3: doesn't like that, and I get that too.
Speaker 4: She's trying to stay loyal to Mo. She also wants
Speaker 4: that money. That money girl, so she doesn't want to know.
Speaker 2: They show they show his Moe's Instagram where he's uh,
Speaker 2: oh my god. It is high key cringe slifting weights
Speaker 2: in the mirror. Ah. And then yeah, they're like, he
Speaker 2: looks old and he's such a douche look at his
Speaker 2: Instagram stories. And then we find out that it's actually
Speaker 2: that part of the reason that Kathy does not like Mo,
Speaker 2: probably hasn't for a long time, is because of how
Speaker 2: and this is true, and this is as of like
Speaker 2: last season or whatever. We find out that Moe's been
Speaker 2: using his feud with Rick Hilton with her husband his Podcaviewers,
Speaker 2: for his real estate show, for his show. Yes, he
Speaker 2: saved that whole story so that he could do it.
Speaker 2: He could tell it on his TV show, which is
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's awful. I'm the Kathy And here's the article. Here's
Speaker 2: what the headline for the article in reality Blurb says,
Speaker 2: Paris Hilton slams Mauricio Umansky, says family is quote sick
Speaker 2: of him, and blasts him for using Hilton name to
Speaker 2: promote lame show after he discussed feud with Rick Hilton
Speaker 2: in buying Beverly Hill's preview. M hm, So Kathy, Kathy's like,
Speaker 2: get is so happy about this? She's like, yeah, we're
Speaker 2: we get to be done with Mauricio.
Speaker 3: Right, and Kyle knows that, but she's like, all right,
Speaker 3: not on camera because Kyle has to control the narrative
Speaker 3: all the time. I understand I would be the same way.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could do the show because I'm
Speaker 3: so much like that.
Speaker 4: But also I.
Speaker 2: Don't like the fact that Kathy Kathy tells the camera
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I mean, the only advice I can
Speaker 2: give is move on, right. It's like, Okay, that's your sister.
Speaker 2: And what if that was for her, What if that
Speaker 2: was Kathy and Rick Hilton divorced her. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: if you know, she would be happy if Kyle was like, well,
Speaker 2: just need to move on.
Speaker 3: There's so much fucking denial in that family though. I mean,
Speaker 3: I cannot, like time, every time I look at a
Speaker 3: news story, it's Paris Hilton trying to say that she
Speaker 3: doesn't have She's never even done botox, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're so.
Speaker 4: Full of shit.
Speaker 3: And it's it's such as I'm sorry, I'm sorry that
Speaker 3: I said that, because if on the one percent chance
Speaker 3: she's telling the truth, but I don't think she is.
Speaker 3: And it's like telling women, Oh yeah, I mean she
Speaker 3: was just born like that.
Speaker 4: She just got this.
Speaker 2: She got scene at our house where she's got like
Speaker 2: crazy machinery hooked up to her face like she does
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Obviously, it's just ridiculous. I hate that shit. I hate
Speaker 3: that they all kind of do that. At least Kyle
Speaker 3: is at least this the older woman. You know, Sutton
Speaker 3: doesn't lie about it. Of course you do Bota of course, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, as will I and should have already. So
Speaker 3: Sutton is trying to give advice. Sutton and Erica are
Speaker 3: both like, you know, don't trust too much. I trusted
Speaker 3: my husband too. You know, Sutton's trying to say her
Speaker 3: a thing again. Eric has said, like, you're not trusted Tom.
Speaker 3: I don't trusted Tom. She doesn't give a shit about Tom.
Speaker 3: She had never cared. I don't think she cared. She
Speaker 3: loved the money, absolutely love the money. But she's she's
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 2: Catty because yeah, because uh, let's see Sutton Kyle. Sutton's
Speaker 2: basically like yeah, oh, Kyle says, well, we just have
Speaker 2: so much respect for each other though, you guys like
Speaker 2: get this, he sent me flower on Mother's Day, right,
Speaker 2: And Sudden's like, yeah, I used to get those flowers too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she goes, but in the last couple of years, I
Speaker 2: got nothing. And Erica goes, girl, you got those monthly payments.
Speaker 2: That's the three hundred and fifty thousand a month, good point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then Erica goes, I get nothing.
Speaker 4: You get money.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna say, is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you get to keep the twenty one million dollars that
Speaker 2: Tom Girardi hid money laundered by putting it into your
Speaker 2: account and as soon as you guys were and he
Speaker 2: took all this money that was not his money and
Speaker 2: he put it in your account and now people can't
Speaker 2: get it back.
Speaker 4: She seems to be doing just fine. She really does.
Speaker 2: I only live in a house that's like thirty three
Speaker 2: thousand square feet though, and it's it's only a one bedroom.
Speaker 2: It's only a one bedroom. The two of the bedrooms
Speaker 2: are used for a closet Erica shut up, so I love.
Speaker 3: As they're leaving, Sutton keeps trying to say things to
Speaker 3: upset Kyle. She's not a real friend because and I
Speaker 3: love that Sutton said that. She's like, oh, I don't
Speaker 3: trust her, and I like that. I like a little
Speaker 3: I like a little sneaky Sutton here where she's like,
Speaker 3: is it hard for you to look at the office?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Bay?
Speaker 3: And Kyle's meanwhile, like, I hadn't even thought of that,
Speaker 3: but yeah, And then she locks the office door weirdly,
Speaker 3: but also was in there.
Speaker 2: Also, Kyle does this thing which was annoying too, where
Speaker 2: she's like, I think it's yeah, she says it's to camera,
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, Like so many people are used to
Speaker 2: seeing couples who get divorced, like just fighting with each other,
Speaker 2: but like, I guess MO and I are a little different. No,
Speaker 2: you're not. You're you're gonna be fighting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 3: I mean we don't want that for you. I actually
Speaker 3: really don't, but like, good luck, right luck babe. In
Speaker 3: the words of the Sweet Chapel Roane, the Sweetheart that
Speaker 3: is Chapel Rowan, good luck babe, Yeah, good bye, babe.
Speaker 3: I love that damn song. I do love the Chapel
Speaker 3: Roan music. I can't lie about that. Now we get
Speaker 3: to the best part of the show, of course. Best
Speaker 3: for last end of the show, p K and Doried
Speaker 3: are going to have dinner and this I have so
Speaker 3: many things to say, Yeah, sure to you.
Speaker 2: Let's just discuss. First of all, I so normally I'm
Speaker 2: always annoyed when people are in a restaurant and they
Speaker 2: always have to show them ordering. But this was the
Speaker 2: best order I've ever seen on a TV show. P
Speaker 2: K sits down first. He gets there first, and the
Speaker 2: waiter comes over and he's like, I would like a
Speaker 2: non alcoholic beer, shoe string, fries, and bread. Can you
Speaker 2: bring the bread and then also some fries. He seems
Speaker 2: like a nightmare to me, if I'm honest, you know,
Speaker 2: it's weird. At the same time, I was kind of
Speaker 2: flipping back and forth, you know, watching I have to
Speaker 2: watch all these screeners for work, and I was watching
Speaker 2: this movie called A Better Man, which is about Robbie Williams,
Speaker 2: you know, the British singer who kind of didn't make
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 3: I mean he made it here. We knew his name.
Speaker 3: He was in like a British you know, boy band
Speaker 3: that didn't make it here, And so there were a
Speaker 3: lot of managers portrayed in the movie, like who reminded
Speaker 3: me so much A pik just kind of old stuffy Brits.
Speaker 4: That's kind of what he was with boy George, right,
Speaker 4: he was a big deal.
Speaker 3: But there's like a It was funny because I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm watching this being fictionalized in this movie.
Speaker 3: But that's this is kind of p K. And they're
Speaker 3: not great. He's not great. No, I don't like him.
Speaker 3: I really, I have to say that.
Speaker 4: I really.
Speaker 2: Oh he's super shady. He's done so many awful things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean so many and I want to be.
Speaker 2: And he's crazy gambling debts. I mean, he's he has
Speaker 2: been a really bad alcoholic, like not to be deree.
Speaker 4: But like the.
Speaker 2: Problem is that she's been covering up for it all
Speaker 2: this time. Well she was a bad alcoholic.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: He was going out and getting duys and not be
Speaker 2: not staying home and going to England for like months
Speaker 2: at a time and not being a good you know.
Speaker 2: But here's a guy. I will tell you. I will
Speaker 2: tell you what I what I heard. I think I
Speaker 2: told you this at the time. I heard from somebody
Speaker 2: that worked for p qu qu that that she was
Speaker 2: pretty much a nightmare.
Speaker 4: I'm really yes, and that's what he's saying in the scene.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I'm saying that I'm confirming what he's
Speaker 2: saying in this scene by saying that somebody that worked
Speaker 2: for them saw it in person, like saw how awful
Speaker 2: she was to him all the time, and that that's
Speaker 2: why he was always trying to stay away, and that
Speaker 2: he did want a divorce, but he didn't want to
Speaker 2: lose his kids.
Speaker 3: I got confused for a second because I know that
Speaker 3: Tom schwartz On vander Pomp and what's her face who
Speaker 3: we loved Katie used to call each other bubba, but
Speaker 3: didn't they also call each other bubba yeah, ca andy
Speaker 3: ba ba yep bah yeah. So what did you think
Speaker 3: about this? So he's newly sober and she's made a
Speaker 3: big to do about his drinking and then sits down
Speaker 3: and immediately and I am actually really asking this question,
Speaker 3: Like she immediately orders like her very specific drink.
Speaker 2: It was really great.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's my question.
Speaker 2: Now I've done that neually sober though he's newly sober.
Speaker 2: You're married to him, and you're going around to everybody
Speaker 2: who will listen talking about his alcohol problem. What a bitch.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that was awful. I thought that was so strange.
Speaker 3: I mean, he seemed to handle it okay, because she
Speaker 3: says she's like, it's okay, right, you don't mind, but
Speaker 3: like nobody usually, she doesn't even wait.
Speaker 2: For him to say. She's just like, yeah, I know
Speaker 2: you don't mind. She's like, do you mind if I
Speaker 2: were her drink? No, I know you don't mind. First
Speaker 2: of all, she also sits down. She side eyes his
Speaker 2: fries because there's a big mountain of fries when she
Speaker 2: sits down, and she just looks at the fries like
Speaker 2: and which she's in a few minutes she's going to
Speaker 2: make a shitty comment about it. She's a bitch, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she is to this fries. And then she's like, I'll
Speaker 2: have a kale salad please. And then she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't mind if I would her drink?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Of course, you don't mind. Belvidere and soda please. Three
Speaker 2: lemons squeezed in carcass out like fuck you really obnoxious,
Speaker 2: really specifically bizarre and almost like a kind of a
Speaker 2: fuck you a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, I've been.
Speaker 3: Around people that are sober or who you know, I've
Speaker 3: dated guys that are maybe have drinking stuff or and
Speaker 3: they're not drinking for a while, and I've gotten a drink,
Speaker 3: So I wonder now I'm like, should I have not
Speaker 3: done that?
Speaker 2: It just depends on the situation. I think if you're gonna,
Speaker 2: if you're if you're going through a separation and all
Speaker 2: you've done is accuse the other person of being an alcoholic,
Speaker 2: maybe don't drink in front of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's tricky because you know, they have their layers of hell.
Speaker 3: Whatever they are to eat maybe a nightmare. But PK
Speaker 3: equally is as well.
Speaker 4: I think they're just terrible. So tehy do you.
Speaker 2: Have to drink? The thing is, you're not going you're
Speaker 2: not out for the night. You're meeting up to discuss
Speaker 2: like the state of basically and the kids.
Speaker 3: So why do you need to Why do you need
Speaker 3: to drink? And maybe it's a little bit of a
Speaker 3: fuck you. It's not okay, I'm not agreeing with it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying maybe that's what she was doing.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. But how do you do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you do that expect the other
Speaker 2: person does? Does she expect that he doesn't notice her
Speaker 2: little fuck you? And then she acts really innocent like what,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to repair this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 3: But then she's partically like kind of trying to flirt
Speaker 3: with him, and he's gonna shut that down. He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, if we were if we spoke the way
Speaker 3: we speak to each other, if we spoke to the
Speaker 3: weight stuff like that, if we spoke to the weight
Speaker 3: stuff like that, they throw us out. So we're kind
Speaker 3: of thinking, well, what is he even talking about? Like,
Speaker 3: but you're confirming that. She's just says all kinds of
Speaker 3: terrible things. We see it, and he says that. He's like,
Speaker 3: you don't like She's like, you wanted me sober, but
Speaker 3: you've done nothing, basically, like what have you done to
Speaker 3: get better in your life? And she's like, well, I
Speaker 3: do things, Piquet. Are you saying I've made no changes
Speaker 3: or whatever? And so they're having this very interesting This
Speaker 3: is this is why I like this scene so much
Speaker 3: because it was very real. And then he's like, listen,
Speaker 3: you're always going to be, you know, the mother of
Speaker 3: my children and my friend, and you're always in my life,
Speaker 3: your family. And she's like, yeah, so we'll talk five
Speaker 3: times a day, which I totally related to that, and
Speaker 3: he's like, no, I got to set a boundary here, like, no,
Speaker 3: we are not going to talk five times a day, right.
Speaker 3: I felt sad for it was a very conflicting scene.
Speaker 3: I felt sad for them both a little bit, and
Speaker 3: I kind of like, I think Durit has a lot
Speaker 3: of work to do, a lot on herself, but I
Speaker 3: could understand. I could kind of see her. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's their dynamic, so it's hard for her to just
Speaker 3: change that. She should be going to alan on if
Speaker 3: she's If she's, I mean maybe she is, and she's
Speaker 3: not talking about it, but like you got a platform
Speaker 3: talk about it.
Speaker 2: She's very codependent, Like did you notice this part she
Speaker 2: she you know, she's like, oh, you got new clothes
Speaker 2: and then he gets up and he models it and
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, he goes yeah, single, single, pique or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then Durret tells the camera. She's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if PK realizes that saying he's single is.
Speaker 4: As hurtful as it is.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, well, you know I lost weight,
Speaker 2: and you know what she says, well, you won't keep
Speaker 2: it off eaten like this, Yeah, like not what right?
Speaker 2: And then she's gonna be like what I don't understand,
Speaker 2: like I don't understand why our marriage is in trouble.
Speaker 2: It's like, well that doesn't help. Nope, making moments like that,
Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was kind of a wow. That was
Speaker 3: a show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well uh yeah basically. Oh Also though before that,
Speaker 2: before we even got to that, I thought it was
Speaker 2: just really interesting that she says, yeah, well, when we
Speaker 2: get in fights, she's like, you know, we do go
Speaker 2: hit below the belt. But I think it seems like
Speaker 2: she hits below the belt. I think that because she
Speaker 2: says she's like, I will say things like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're just such a big drunk. I hope you fall
Speaker 2: off that chair and break your fucking head. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: hope you wrott in hell, you're always going to be alone.
Speaker 2: Like why would she say that kind of stuff? And then.
Speaker 3: I thought that was very telling. Yeah, no, it was
Speaker 3: very telling. She just told it. It wasn't even like
Speaker 3: a coded message. She just said all the things she says.
Speaker 3: I think he says shitty things too. She may go
Speaker 3: a little deeper right now because he's the one who
Speaker 3: might have a weaker spot that she can hit, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I don't know. I mean, she's like,
Speaker 2: we will swear at each other, and we really really
Speaker 2: try to hurt each other. But that's like, I don't
Speaker 2: understand how you think that that's healthy. Like I do,
Speaker 2: I think it's healthy. What if I really thought that.
Speaker 3: I think it's the only way you've got to say
Speaker 3: all the terrible things, right, I'm not a fan.
Speaker 4: I don't do that.
Speaker 2: And if you do, if you do, you do. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying you personally, but I'm saying if people do,
Speaker 2: they do. But then you have to You're not going
Speaker 2: to just repair your marriage by being like, let's just
Speaker 2: not be mean, right, Like that's going to require some work, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of work, and not just PK. It's got to
Speaker 3: be them both, not just counseling. I mean, on your
Speaker 3: own door, we look at yourself, look at the how
Speaker 3: you are reflected among your friends, if you're listening.
Speaker 2: And but she's very surprised because The way this ends
Speaker 2: is she durit tells the camera like, you know, I
Speaker 2: really thought, like I had it in my head that
Speaker 2: we were going to be able to work it out.
Speaker 2: But after hearing PK's frustrations, I don't know where we
Speaker 2: go from here. Well, you came in hot to this,
Speaker 2: to just meeting him for a drink. I guess on
Speaker 2: your part basically said you're going to get fat because
Speaker 2: you eat too much, and like admitted to constantly hitting
Speaker 2: below the belt. And you're like, but we're good, right,
Speaker 2: We're good, right, We're still talk fouve again.
Speaker 3: It's not okay, but it's the dynamic that they've been
Speaker 3: in for decades, right, So it's hard to break that
Speaker 3: because she's not drinking right, And it's hard.
Speaker 4: I've been there. I've not been there hitting below the belt.
Speaker 3: I don't do that, but I've been there in codependent
Speaker 3: relationships for sure.
Speaker 4: And I think I told you.
Speaker 3: Somebody had like somebody had this like something about like you.
Speaker 3: There are people that are you know, maybe tend to
Speaker 3: date alcohol like you. It's almost like you don't do
Speaker 3: it consciously to do it because then you get to
Speaker 3: be the one that's in control. It's like you're acting
Speaker 3: something out from your childhood. Right, you're the one going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, then no one notices if what you're
Speaker 3: doing right, not necessarily with alcohol, but with something else whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, So like I totally like that's.
Speaker 4: The kind of shit.
Speaker 3: Not not to get so serious, but that's the kind
Speaker 3: of shit you do learn in alan On. You know, like, look,
Speaker 3: it's it's none of your I mean, you're.
Speaker 4: And somebody are.
Speaker 3: Somebody put it so well, and I keep trying to
Speaker 3: remember this saying. It's something like you you let them
Speaker 3: lean on you so it props you up. There's some
Speaker 3: saying that do you know what I'm talking about. It's
Speaker 3: like a really little saying. I'll find it, I know,
Speaker 3: I keep sort of hinting to it, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was for people, and it's just like an honest
Speaker 3: thing where you go, like you we don't get to
Speaker 3: stand there and say like, oh my god, you're just
Speaker 3: you've got so many issues because you drain. It's like,
Speaker 3: well I do too, because I'm the one dating you
Speaker 3: for ten years, right, I'm not making any changes then, right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 4: It's a whole thing.
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