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<v Speaker 1>Oh bead of bard that hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the

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<v Speaker 2>Cajun Night I'm ravingly And we have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a conversation that needs to be had good cult members.

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<v Speaker 2>We touched on it last week or possibly the week

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<v Speaker 2>four two weeks ago. Yeah, time flies when you're having fun,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I hear this, I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is. I never know if it's yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>or tomorrow, but somehow it's never fucking today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>tired of it. But that's neither here nor there. So

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<v Speaker 2>we need to have a conversation, good cult members. What

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<v Speaker 2>is going on with the random deaths of scientists that

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<v Speaker 2>are surrounding very key strategic national defense sectors. And we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this a little bit with the general that

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<v Speaker 2>was over a sizeable portion of the UFO site, right

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<v Speaker 2>and he just walked off into the desert with nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but a revolver and he still has not been found.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to talk about General McCaslin here in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit. But that is only the most recent of

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<v Speaker 2>a long list. But honestly, I didn't even know how

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<v Speaker 2>long this was. That has gone down since the end

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<v Speaker 2>of last year to now. There's a lot more. There's

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<v Speaker 2>six that people are talking about. There's a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, And what if I was

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you that there's a precedence for this. In

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<v Speaker 2>the late eighties and early nineties twenty five to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven opinion on who you ask, scientists surrounding Britain's National Defense

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<v Speaker 2>Sectors were all murdered or confirmed dead or missing in

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<v Speaker 2>very strange, mysterious ways, so much so that a book

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<v Speaker 2>was written about them, and the author of the book

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<v Speaker 2>sent a foyer request to the British Parliament and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even They outright ignored him, and then he had

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<v Speaker 2>to reappeal it, and then he was arrested allegedly.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna they get Did they just kill him?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, some of the murders were a bit It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to look at one individual case, very

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<v Speaker 2>very similar to the situation that's going on with our

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<v Speaker 2>scientists right now, if you were to look get one

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<v Speaker 2>of these as an individual as a write off, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I could I could see a world in which something

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<v Speaker 2>like this has happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, People go hiking and go missing all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Murder suicides do in fact happen, you know, random gangland

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<v Speaker 2>violence that some person was just in the wrong place,

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<v Speaker 2>wrong time, got crossing the crossfires.

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<v Speaker 4>This does happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you put it all together and you see

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<v Speaker 2>that there is not this, this is a pattern. This

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<v Speaker 2>isn't even a oh well, you know, only the conspiracy theorist. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>out loud. There is a very clear pattern that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. And then specifically with the type of science

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<v Speaker 2>that excuse me, the type of scientists that are being

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<v Speaker 2>unalived for lack of better words, because some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are just gone missing, some of them are confirmed dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a whole thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't like, oh this nuclear physicist over here, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this botanical scientist over here, Oh this anthropology scientist over no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>They are all directly connected to the American national defense industry,

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<v Speaker 2>some might say the military industrial complex. So let's go

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<v Speaker 2>deeper into all of this. Yes, right, Patterson Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>Base is going to make its appearance, But so were

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<v Speaker 2>a few labs that people may or may not have

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of before. But they got their own crazy

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<v Speaker 2>backstories and rabbit holes within rabbit holes within rabbit holes

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<v Speaker 2>to go down.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna do a little bit of a deep dive

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<v Speaker 4>this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Good cult members, So before we get started, Raven Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>what what is your take on it?

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<v Speaker 4>Before we get started here.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did want to give a huge shout out

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<v Speaker 5>to our cult member Alex in I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>say like your full name. He actually presented this information

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<v Speaker 5>to me way back in oh, way back in December.

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<v Speaker 5>He actually found that in professor with nuclear science and

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<v Speaker 5>engineering and physics was this was the first one and

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<v Speaker 5>he said, hey, this seems really fishy and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>really know what's going on with this, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>keep an eye on it. And then as this is progressed,

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<v Speaker 5>he set me other articles and things, and I'm like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're really onto something here.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're keeping a good eye out.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I actually didn't really know a bunch about

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<v Speaker 5>it besides what the articles I kind of glanced at,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, read that he gave us some stuff. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think that there is I didn't know anything about

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<v Speaker 5>Britain having twenty five to twenty seven people gone missing

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<v Speaker 5>at one point or killed. I would assume that there

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<v Speaker 5>is a reason and a connection between all of them

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<v Speaker 5>and why because it's it's weirdly being talked about, but

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<v Speaker 5>not not in the mainstream media enough to where it's

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<v Speaker 5>like still being brought up, like you see it on

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<v Speaker 5>social media and people are like, hey, so there's another

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<v Speaker 5>scientist that's going on, and then it's cut quietly, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of just going off into the wind.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'll don't really know a bunch about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that it's being talked about so much

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<v Speaker 2>so that now an American congressman is stepping up and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is up? It actually is Okay, thank

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<v Speaker 2>god we have one politician and grants it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm sure if you look at who's funding him,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a whole thing and the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I haven't done a deep dive into the politician himself,

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<v Speaker 2>but what I will say is I can at least

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate a specific congressman who has stepped up and said, hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we need to be paying attention because there is

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<v Speaker 2>a clear dark pattern of what's going on here. None

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<v Speaker 2>of this shit's making sense, and it's like, okay, mister congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>you now have the floor her I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna get to all of the good Cult members are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start the top and work our way down. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and share the screen at this time

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<v Speaker 2>and for anybody that would like to see these episodes

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<v Speaker 2>right see the articles in the videos and all the

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<v Speaker 2>proof that we are bringing to the table as well

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<v Speaker 2>as our faces. But what you need to do is

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<v Speaker 2>That is the only place to get the video of

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<v Speaker 2>shirts and these stickers. This is only for our manic

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<v Speaker 2>teer homies that support us to that level, and we

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate all of you that have already gone and done.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, let's cut to it all right, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>just start off at the top here. Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is from American Greatness dot Com. Yes, I know the

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna get pissed off about the source, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>let's look at the information that is being broadcast here rather.

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<v Speaker 4>Than the source itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, have your leanings all you want, that's not the

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<v Speaker 2>point of the episode here. Something dark is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine top level scientists die or go missing in the

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<v Speaker 2>past year. Let's break this down here. So, in the

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<v Speaker 2>span of nine months, nine top level scientists in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States have died or vanished without a trace. Seven

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<v Speaker 2>of them were connected to the Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL,

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<v Speaker 2>or the institutions indirectly funds or it directly funds. Rather

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<v Speaker 2>so AFRL develops and transitions the most sensitive aerospace technologies

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States's defense arsenal. Now, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>list that's gonna go over them, but then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>break them all down individually to get to the deeper

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<v Speaker 2>story here. Okay, So starting off right off the rip here,

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<v Speaker 2>Monica Wascinta Reza, probably mispronouncing that my apologies. She vanished

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty second of last year while hiking with friends

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<v Speaker 2>not been found by the way as of time of recording.

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<v Speaker 2>She was last seen waving to a hiking companion approximately

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<v Speaker 2>thirty feet behind the group. Despite an extensive search involving helicopters, drones,

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<v Speaker 2>canine units, only a beanie and lit bomb were recovered

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<v Speaker 2>and her body has not been found. Rezam, who was sixty,

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<v Speaker 2>was an aerospace engineer at the technical fellow at Aerojet

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<v Speaker 2>Rocket Dying, which, yes, that is a real place, Aerojet

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<v Speaker 2>Rocket Dyne Laboratories for those.

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<v Speaker 2>They do a lot with jet propulsion, a lot with

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<v Speaker 2>jet propulsion, and they are a pretty key component to

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<v Speaker 2>the well, let's just say anything involving missiles rockets, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, military defense industrial complex is happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>But moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>Who later moved to NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratories JPL. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we've already talked about JPL, and how that was founded

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<v Speaker 2>by one of Alistair Crownley's little homeboys.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I should say Beta Cux, but that's neither here

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Parsons was a guy, he made rockets, He did

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<v Speaker 2>a cult sacrifices anyway, beside the point JPL. That's him

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward here. And she was a co inventor of Mandelay.

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalay is a very She literally invented this alloy. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is a family of nickel based super alloys developed

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<v Speaker 2>by Aerojet Rocket Dye too. Its stand oxygen rich environments

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<v Speaker 2>and extreme heat in rocket engines, so basically the metal

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<v Speaker 2>I know what people are thinking, right, So throwing it

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<v Speaker 2>out here. We do know that jet fuel does not

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<v Speaker 2>melt still beams like a nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>I get that rocket propulsion is a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Intense than a jet fuel fire, right, And the metal

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<v Speaker 2>components that hold that heat and direct it have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a different type of metal. It got to be

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<v Speaker 2>made out of some different stuff. She literally created mandolay,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the metal that is used for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these super hot, superoxygen rich rocket components. Its unique

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<v Speaker 2>achievement is balancing high oxygen comi compatibility with structural strength,

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<v Speaker 2>solving a critical challenge where traditional oxygen resistant alloys are

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<v Speaker 2>too weak to use in high pressure components like pre

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<v Speaker 2>burners or turbine rotors. So she was absolutely as at

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<v Speaker 2>her field. She worked closely with retired Major General William

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<v Speaker 2>Neil McCaslin, yes direct connection between the missing general and her,

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<v Speaker 2>who commanded the AFRL from twenty eleven to twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>and oversaw the government funding for her alloy program. He

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<v Speaker 2>components to do the rocketry. Not to mention, he was

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<v Speaker 2>call it the Alien Site right of right Patterson Air

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<v Speaker 2>Force Base. But yes, so there was absolutely a connection here.

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<v Speaker 2>But Caslin disappeared in February. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that more in a bit. But anyway, Dallas Hardwick, Reza's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, apparently of natural causes. That's not the connection here.

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<v Speaker 2>calling you know what I'm saying. But as far as

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<v Speaker 4>That was over twelve years ago, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>the keynote here, all right. Moving on, Melissa Cassius probably

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<v Speaker 2>mispronouncing that one as well. Has been missing since June

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth of twenty twenty five. In Taos County, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>She was last seen walking alone on Highway five eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>and tennis shoes, with a backpack containing personal items. Cassius

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<v Speaker 2>Los Alamos National Laboratory. The amount of rabbit hole and

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracies to go into with the Los Alamos National Laboratory, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>we could do five episodes on them. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>first atomic bomb. Okay, it spawns from there. It only

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<v Speaker 2>goes wilder from there. But anyway, a facility known for

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons research and national security science. Her job at

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<v Speaker 2>the LANL links her to McCaslin, another direct connection to

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<v Speaker 2>General McCaslin, who worked closely with LA and L on

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<v Speaker 2>national security projects at Kirkland Air Force Base. According to

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<v Speaker 2>the Daily Mail, she vanished just four days after Reza

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<v Speaker 2>mysteriously disappeared. Y'all this one in and of itself. The

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<v Speaker 3>Just the two of those alone is sketchy as shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's wild, It's all right.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, Now we have two we have two women

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<v Speaker 5>that are close connection to good old General we do now.

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<v Speaker 3>That are four days apart.

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<v Speaker 4>So this one is where things get a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Three four and five yea all together.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is gonna be a little spicy, a little wild,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is some speculations on a lot of different

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<v Speaker 4>So today or this one anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, three four and five on this list, Jacob Prichard,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Pritchard, and First Lieutenant Jamie gustisis Gustie TuS Gustiitus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a weird name, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gustitis, all right, Gustas. They all died October twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>of last year. Now, this one, this one reads like

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<v Speaker 2>a soap opera.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, yes, they're gonna say they're all sleeping together,

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<v Speaker 3>and like.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone said, we don't know, we don't know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even matter I care about what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>None of it makes sense. I'm gonna read the story

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have tons of conjecture because we got

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<v Speaker 2>multiple news articles that are going to talk about when

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<v Speaker 2>we break them down individually.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the overarching theme here. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Pritchard was thirty four, and he was the Acquisition

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<v Speaker 2>project manager at the AFLR Censors Directorate at Right Patterson

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, specializing in technologies for

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<v Speaker 2>air and space reconnaissance and surveillance. Again, direct connection to

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<v Speaker 2>the General. Right, this guy worked under the General anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob's wife, Jamie Pritchett, well, I should say the General

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<v Speaker 2>used to work there, but you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>there's direct connections as far as the base is concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob's wife, Jamie Pritcher, thirty three, was a finance specialist

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<v Speaker 2>at the Air Force life Cycle Management Center at Right Patterson.

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<v Speaker 4>The couple had three children. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Gustidas was twenty five, so there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an age gap, but not much. And she was

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<v Speaker 2>an Air Force Operations Analysis officer who worked in a

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<v Speaker 2>top secret capacity at the seven hundred and eleventh Human

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<v Speaker 2>Performance Wing at Right Patterson. Okay, the human performance wing

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<v Speaker 4>Now personally, my brain starts going to superhumans.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just jam I was like Eugenics all the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm writing notes. I'm writing down, like the what

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<v Speaker 5>they did and the connections to each other, because I

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<v Speaker 5>want to see the pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>But immediately I think of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Start taking down the dates on all of them. Two

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<v Speaker 4>for sure I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I took down I took down June, June, and October.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't write down on the specific dates, but OKA

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<v Speaker 5>say four days part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So all right, these three individuals, here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob allegedly killed his wife Jamie and placed her body

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<v Speaker 2>in the trunk of their car, then drove to Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>Creek Township, broke into Gustidas's apartment and fatally shot her

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<v Speaker 2>around two am. Then he drove to West Milton Municipal Building,

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<v Speaker 2>opened the trunk for police to discover Jamie's body, and

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<v Speaker 2>at around four to twenty three am committed suicide by

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<v Speaker 5>That's the most wild shit I've ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, like there's no way and as of

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<v Speaker 5>this moment, and we're gonna read more about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that there was some sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>love triangle situation here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not not saying there. I'm out all.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really care if they have a love triangle.

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<v Speaker 5>I more or less care what the hell they were

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<v Speaker 5>working on and how they were connected to this general

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<v Speaker 5>that got got and why they're all killed in.

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<v Speaker 3>A very weird interesting way of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm, apparently we lost a shit and said, fuck everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know or you know, we do have we

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<v Speaker 5>do in fact understand how mind control works, so they.

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<v Speaker 4>Could jump in out here.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm sorry, I'm sorry, my brain is thinking and

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<v Speaker 5>i'm a I'm actually what was the what were we?

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<v Speaker 3>She was with human performance? That's what it was. I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to look up.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred, seven hundred and eleventh Human Performance Wing at

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<v Speaker 2>right Patterson Air Force Base. So I just have a

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<v Speaker 2>weird feeling the seven eleventh first of all, the seven

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<v Speaker 2>eleven unit. That's fucking hilarious, but okay, because it never

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<v Speaker 2>close and they're working on human performance booom. But my

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<v Speaker 2>point is I got a weird feeling that they're working

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<v Speaker 2>on the bat blood.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that for a fact.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, but it has to be I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>bat blood. Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm starting to form a form of theory already because

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<v Speaker 5>we shall see. But oh I found it, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 5>found it. Well, actually have a website because we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be breaking. Yeah, I'm gonna read this, so all right,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, let's move on here. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>So before I go, the next one as of this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and very very subject to change, y'all, as more information

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<v Speaker 2>find any evidence to say that these three were sleeping together,

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a love affair going on or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like this. By all accounts, they didn't know each other,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had two of it, and he had to have

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<v Speaker 2>known where she lived, so like there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a connection. None of that has been

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<v Speaker 2>made public yet, so and the comments section on this

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<v Speaker 2>one goes in the wildest direction possible, all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>But fine, fine, anyway, we'll get to that one in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Grimare or grill mayor excuse me, astrophysicists. Yeah, astrophysicist

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<v Speaker 2>and astronomer at the Caltech Infrared Processing Analysis Center or IPACK,

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<v Speaker 2>was shot dead on the front porch of his home

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<v Speaker 2>in Lanno, California, February sixteenth, twenty twenty six. So February

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<v Speaker 2>of this year, this astrophysicist and astronomer was found on

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<v Speaker 2>his porch in the middle of essentially bump fuck nowhere, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this and in the big city is what? No

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<v Speaker 2>gangland violence. His house wasn't broken into. This was He

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<v Speaker 2>was just shot through the chest sitting on his porch.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll get some more. Let's come grill. Maayre was

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated for his groundbreaking research and astronomy, including the discovery

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<v Speaker 2>of dozens of stellar streams, which are remnants of ancient

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<v Speaker 2>galactic collisions, and the first detection of water signatures in

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<v Speaker 2>the atmospheres of exoplanets. For nearly thirty years at IPAK,

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<v Speaker 2>he worked on numerous projects, including Neowise Science Data Center,

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<v Speaker 2>where he validated data pipelines for detecting asteroids and comets

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<v Speaker 2>that could impact Earth. Grimare's role involved testing new instrumentation

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<v Speaker 2>and ensuring the NEOs surveyor instruments performed to specifications to

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<v Speaker 2>identify dark, cold objects against the black of space. So,

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<v Speaker 2>just so we're all clear here, your boy had somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>around one hundred and fifty peer reviewed journals that are

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<v Speaker 2>out right now. He has made dozens of discoveries, dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of instrumentation that he personally developed. As far as this

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<v Speaker 2>goes like and from all accounts of what I can find,

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<v Speaker 2>he was very well liked and well respected in his field.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like nobody had beef with him, and your

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<v Speaker 2>boy only did. He just did the research. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just in the mix. And he was found shot dead

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<v Speaker 2>on his porch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, Yeah, that's not weird at all or anything, not

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<v Speaker 3>even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, of course William Neil McCaslin, General, former AFRL commander,

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<v Speaker 2>former research commander at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>vanished from his home in Albuquerque, New Mexico on February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. A silver alert was issued

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<v Speaker 2>after the sixty eight year old disappeared. He reported left

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<v Speaker 2>his phone, end glasses, but took his wallet, boots, and

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty eight Revolver. With the FBI now assisting in

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<v Speaker 2>his search, McCaslin hailed some of the most sensitive positions

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<v Speaker 2>in the US military, including Director of the Special Program

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<v Speaker 2>at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a big one. That's a pretty critical one.

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<v Speaker 2>This gave him critical knowledge of the nation's most classified programs.

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<v Speaker 2>He reportedly oversaw four point four billion dollars in classified

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<v Speaker 2>aerospace research and development, running the lab at Right Patterson

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<v Speaker 2>and serving as the Executive Secretary of the Special Access

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<v Speaker 2>Program Oversight Committee, the body with the full purview of

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<v Speaker 2>every SAP in the Department of Defense. So this dude

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that basically gave the person the blessing

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<v Speaker 2>and the certification to say what they could and could

422
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<v Speaker 2>not know. You ever see those movies where, you know,

423
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<v Speaker 2>you get this guy that goes to the White House

424
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<v Speaker 2>and he's dressed like, you know, some vagabond, and they're.

425
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<v Speaker 4>Like, you don't have the clearance for this.

426
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I am the clearance to talk about this,

427
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<v Speaker 2>like you always had that an old guy. This is

428
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<v Speaker 2>that guy, Like in real life, this is the guy

429
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<v Speaker 2>where if he would have walked in the White House

430
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<v Speaker 2>with a khakis and a.

431
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<v Speaker 4>Polo on and so what are you doing here.

432
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<v Speaker 2>You don't have the authorities, Like bitch, I literally wrote

433
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<v Speaker 2>your authority get away from me, Like this is that

434
00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>guy but moving onez. His name appears in Wikileak's emails

435
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<v Speaker 2>coordinating a UAP disclosure meeting with the Clinton campaign at

436
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<v Speaker 2>the head of the Locky Martin's skunk works. According to

437
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<v Speaker 2>the Sentinel Network, Okay.

438
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<v Speaker 5>Glad that you just said that, because I was looking

439
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<v Speaker 5>up the right patterson for Epstein and it came up

440
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<v Speaker 5>in two things, and one of them is happens to

441
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<v Speaker 5>be from twenty thirteen, and it's like right out of

442
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<v Speaker 5>the eight The first thing that talks about is the Clintons,

443
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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, okay.

444
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<v Speaker 2>It has to They just have to make their way

445
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<v Speaker 2>into every conversation, don't they.

446
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<v Speaker 5>But I'm seeing I'm an advisory circular is another one

447
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<v Speaker 5>Department of transp Rotation Aviation thing has showed up in

448
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.000
<v Speaker 5>his thing and it's it's very long interesting, So.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, continue on.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Mccasson's association with UFO Research and brief professional association with

451
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<v Speaker 2>Tom DeLong and the Two of the Stars Academy have

452
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<v Speaker 2>drawn significant public and media attention to the case. According

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<v Speaker 2>to the Sentinel, these mysterious deaths and disappearances do not

454
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<v Speaker 2>amount to quote, a loose connect collection of people who

455
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<v Speaker 2>happen to work in defense. I agree that's not that.

456
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<v Speaker 2>This is not what this is. This one documented system,

457
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<v Speaker 2>traceable through patent filings, congressional testimony, DTIC records, and federal

458
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<v Speaker 2>contract databases. Res of vanishing in LA Counting or LA County. Rather,

459
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<v Speaker 2>grill Mayer was killed in LA County, both in the

460
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<v Speaker 2>shadow of JPL Caltech corridor, where America's planetary defense infrastructure

461
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>is built. McCaslin vanished in Albuquerque, home of Kirkland Air

462
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<v Speaker 2>Force Base, and Sandy in Natal Labs. The right Patterson

463
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<v Speaker 2>deaths were in Dayton, Ohio. These are not random locations.

464
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<v Speaker 2>These are three, or they are three geographic nodes of

465
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<v Speaker 2>American Defense Aerospace Research, Southern California, New Mexico, Ohio, the

466
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>triangle where AFRL lives, and at the every node the

467
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>same institutional silence. JPL said nothing about Rezum, NASA said nothing,

468
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>the AIAA said nothing. Caltech's statement about Grillmore said he

469
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<v Speaker 2>passed away suddenly, which is very accurate.

470
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<v Speaker 4>I looked that up.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Caltech didn't say anything about it, only that he passed

472
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<v Speaker 2>away suddenly without using the word shot. Right, Patterson offered

473
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<v Speaker 2>counseling services for the three people that died in this

474
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<v Speaker 2>crazy way. They offered counseling, which, to be fair, every

475
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<v Speaker 2>fucking time we had a suicide when I was in

476
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 2>we had to stop and talk about it. We had

477
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<v Speaker 2>to have a big death by PowerPoint to remind every

478
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<v Speaker 2>people not to kill themselves. In like two weeks later,

479
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>we had another one do it, and it's like, fucking stop, dude,

480
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>real shit, and that was that was It's rough, and

481
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<v Speaker 2>don't even me wrong, I'm not trying to take it

482
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<v Speaker 2>onto that direction. But there was like a six month

483
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>time span when I was living in DC, when I

484
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 2>was stationed there where like it seemed like every three

485
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<v Speaker 2>weeks to a month we had another one eat a bullet,

486
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<v Speaker 2>and the command's response was to have more death by

487
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<v Speaker 2>power points about not killing yourself, and then another one

488
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<v Speaker 2>would happen to be like, would you stop fucking talking

489
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>about it like this, maybe you would help. I don't know,

490
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, so maybe right Patterson offering counseling services at

491
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 2>military mindset that stands to reason. But of all the bases,

492
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the base with the UFOs and shit, you're gonna offer

493
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>your airmen counseling, but whatever. Okay. In every case, the

494
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 2>institution that lost someone chose the minimum possible disclosure. The

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00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>silence is its own pattern inside the pattern, which I

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<v Speaker 2>have to agree with.

497
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<v Speaker 4>Now, let's go on to this next guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Nunio F Gomez, Lorero Lariro, I don't know how to pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>His name, doesn't matter. A prominent Portuguese plasma physicist was

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<v Speaker 2>fatally shot at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts, on December fifteenth,

501
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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, and died from his injuries the following day.

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<v Speaker 2>Authorities connected to the murder connected his murder to Claudio

503
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<v Speaker 2>Manuel Nevez Valente, who had committed a shooting at Brown

504
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>University two days prior. Both men were classmates at the

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<v Speaker 2>Instituto Superior Technico in Portugal. I don't speak Portuguese, of

506
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<v Speaker 2>my apologies, which we're going to talk about your boy

507
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Valente a little bit too. So he fired forty four

508
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<v Speaker 2>shots at at Brown University classroom.

509
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<v Speaker 4>To which he had no connection to.

510
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<v Speaker 2>It just happened to be the same classroom that he

511
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 2>once had class in when he was at Brown, and

512
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<v Speaker 2>he basically failed at life, He was top of his class,

513
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>all these things. He had an amazing academic career, gets

514
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<v Speaker 2>to the profession world, sucks at it and just decided.

515
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<v Speaker 4>To be spurned by everybody.

516
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<v Speaker 2>And he actually recorded four videos where he admitted to

517
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 2>everything and gave his reasons why it was psychobabble like

518
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>your boy was not okay up top. And again we'll

519
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about that more in a bit. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>committed the murders at the at Brown University. He killed

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<v Speaker 2>a few, injured more, shot a bunch around them, then

522
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<v Speaker 2>took off. Two days later, he goes to this guy

523
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>who they were classmates, but there's no indication that they

524
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<v Speaker 2>were rivals by any stretch of the imagination. But this

525
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>guy had achieved, you know, some serious success in his life,

526
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and your boy Valente just really sucked.

527
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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, anyway, we'll talk about it all more in

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<v Speaker 4>a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So Loreo forty four hailed joint appointments as a professor

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<v Speaker 2>at MIT's Department of Nuclear s Science and Engineering and

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Physics, Director and director of MIT's Plasma Science

532
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<v Speaker 2>and Fusion Center.

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<v Speaker 5>That's so so him and himself alone being killed and

534
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<v Speaker 5>everything that he did that the article I dropped in

535
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 5>the chat is all about him. That was the original

536
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<v Speaker 5>article that Alex sent me, and it breaks down all

537
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 5>of this stuff like this dude alone, like changed how

538
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 5>everything is for the universe pretty much and how plasma

539
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 5>works and all this stuff. So for him to get

540
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<v Speaker 5>killed on top of all these other people, yeah, no,

541
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<v Speaker 5>it's crazy.

542
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>So he joined MIT in twenty sixteen and was known

543
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<v Speaker 2>for his work on nonlinear plasma dynamics, including the development

544
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>of Verato Veriato don't know simulation code, and his research

545
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on solar flares and fusion confinement. So your boy was

546
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a key player as far as nuclear fission was concerned.

547
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 2>He was head of MIT's to or excuse me, He

548
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>was a professor at MIT's Department of Nuclear Science and

549
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<v Speaker 2>Engineering and Department of Physics, as well as director of

550
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>vimmit's Plasma Science and Fusion Center. Your boy was insane

551
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and like you said, he changed the game in so

552
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>many ways. They're gonna read more about him in a bit,

553
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, he got killed by this guy for with

554
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>allegedly no connection, with no background to this.

555
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 4>And I know people are thinking like and I've also

556
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>heard the whole thing.

557
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he's called the scientists of the Jews.

558
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>That's something that a lot of news articles are saying

559
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>because allegedly he was Jewish. The guy who killed him

560
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>was not a Muslim or an Iranian or any of that.

561
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>He was Portuguese. So the whole him being Jewish thing

562
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>that people are throwing into this for the fuck of

563
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it matters literally zero percent.

564
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even looking at if he was Jewish or not.

565
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<v Speaker 4>I know, no, No.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go through and I had to search

567
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<v Speaker 2>like thirteen different articles to talk about him, because every

568
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 2>other one tried making it well clearly it was because

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<v Speaker 2>of anti Semitists and Semite hate, because you know the

570
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 2>are so hated. Now this person killed him. It's like,

571
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 2>so this guy being the critical player to nuclear fission,

572
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 2>and you think it was his religion that was the

573
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>reason for his murder, Like odd people want to hate

574
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the Jews. Fine, I don't get down with it, but fine,

575
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>everybody's in tow to their opinion. Everybody's in tow to

576
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 2>be wrong, just like I am. Fine, But like all

577
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 2>all the things that we could be talking about right now,

578
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>like the importance of this.

579
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<v Speaker 5>Guy, the way we could have been Muslim and I

580
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't have cared like as long we're talking about the

581
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<v Speaker 5>work that they're creating.

582
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<v Speaker 2>So he could have been like a card carrying Wickan

583
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>or so. It has nothing to do with the groundbreaking

584
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 2>research he's done in the nuclear field. But like all

585
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>these articles are making it about anti Semitism, and it's like,

586
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, dude, we got we got more important shit

587
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to talk about right now. So anyway, anyway, we're gonna

588
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>get to him more in depth in a bit so last.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Jason Thomas, a chemical biologist, was reported missing on December thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, after leaving his home on the night

591
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<v Speaker 2>of December twelfth without his phone, wallet, or identification. He

592
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<v Speaker 2>was found dead in Lake Oh God, I'm gonna try

593
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<v Speaker 2>to pronounce this word for any of our Massachusetts listeners.

594
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<v Speaker 2>You might laugh at the way I pronounced this. Quanta powat.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea in lake Quanta powet in Wakefield, Massachusetts,

596
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<v Speaker 2>on March seventeen, twenty twenty six. So Thomas was forty

597
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 2>five or just we're clear. He went missing December twelfth.

598
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<v Speaker 2>They found him March seventeenth. Oh wow, they just found him.

599
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>As of time of recording just a few weeks ago.

600
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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, moving on, So he was forty five, was

601
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<v Speaker 2>the assistant director of Novardies Institute for Biomedical Research, with

602
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>over forty five hundred citations on chemical biology and Chimo

603
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<v Speaker 2>chemo protein Jesus chemo proteomics.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds made up. I believe them, but that sounds made.

605
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Up some random mass words thrown together.

606
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, your boy had over forty five hundred citations

608
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<v Speaker 2>with his name on it. Okay, he was absolutely a

609
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<v Speaker 2>dog when it came to his industry, even if I

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<v Speaker 2>can't pronounce it. His work reportedly included active contracts with

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Defense. Commenting on the string of deaths

612
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<v Speaker 2>and disappearances, Representative Tim Burchett, who is a congressman from

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee Republican, I my dad told podcaster Benny Johnson last

614
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<v Speaker 2>week that something dark is going on. I know these

615
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>scientists and researchers, they have all testified. We've got to

616
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>get to the bottom of it. He said, it's just

617
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<v Speaker 2>too much. Too much is.

618
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<v Speaker 4>Going on right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I'm not suicidal. A congressman had

620
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<v Speaker 2>to say that on a podcast. Let everybody know in

621
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<v Speaker 2>case he comes up missing next it wasn't him anyway.

622
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<v Speaker 2>So this is the overarching breakdown. We're about to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the thick of it. Ravenly your thoughts before go

624
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<v Speaker 2>any further.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that there is clearly something happening. You know,

626
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<v Speaker 5>you have an aerospace engineer, you have a nuclear weapons

627
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 5>person that does security science, you have aerospace reconnaissance, a

628
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<v Speaker 5>financial person with the Science Institute, top secret human performance wing,

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<v Speaker 5>an astrophysicist.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you got the general that's linked to all of

631
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<v Speaker 3>them above. Then you have how do you say his name?

632
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<v Speaker 3>The number seven, number eight? Excuse me?

633
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Portuguese dude, I Anna, we're gonna.

634
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<v Speaker 5>Do it, did plasma fusion and all of that. And

635
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<v Speaker 5>then you have the chemical biologist. So what does that

636
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 5>like kind of seem just out loud to everybody because

637
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 5>it sounds like they found something or they're attempting to

638
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<v Speaker 5>do something with space.

639
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Sounds, and as all of these things are going on

640
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<v Speaker 2>around the time when allegedly because aliens right right, because

641
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Epstein list drop happened and we had to get the

642
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 2>people to stop talking about that. So clearly we need

643
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>to tantalize the public with aliens again and clearly we

644
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 2>need ice raids to get people off of the whole

645
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Epstein thing, and then we need a war, right, we

646
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>gotta start warring with somebody. You gotta stop talking about Epstein, Jeff,

647
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Who that island?

648
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 4>Where? What are you talking about?

649
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 2>What?

650
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 4>Kids?

651
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 6>What?

652
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 4>Pedophile ring? What we talk about?

653
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Now that aliens in space are getting up to the forefront,

654
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>all these sciences that may or may not we believe

655
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>may have had direct knowledge about the things that are

656
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>about to go down, missing, dead, where about known?

657
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<v Speaker 5>It's rather interesting, Like I think the ones that are missing,

658
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 5>I do believe uh are still missing for a reason.

659
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 5>I actually don't think that they're dead. I think that

660
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<v Speaker 5>there is something larger happening at play. Now.

661
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Who is it connected to? I don't know.

662
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 5>Could it be aliens that are taking them out on

663
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 5>strategic maybe?

664
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

665
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 5>Probably not, it's probably humans, but you know, for the

666
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 5>sake of argument, we could have that talk. But you know,

667
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 5>is it somebody Is it China that's taking them out

668
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 5>strategically or is it them capturing them or getting information

669
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<v Speaker 5>from them and then you know, getting rid of them.

670
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

671
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Words Americans, you know, keeping them quiet from whatever it

672
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 5>is that they saw or they were working on or

673
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, they they had knowledge in their fields that

674
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 5>was so vital that they got got because the government

675
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 5>doesn't want anybody knowing about it.

676
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's your guess, is as good as mine, honestly,

677
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and I have my idea. We're gonna we're gonna spit

678
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 2>ball some ideas more towards the end. But all right,

679
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 2>let's get to the thick of it here. Let's break

680
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 2>them down one by one. So again we've already talked

681
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 2>about the general, but here's the latest update.

682
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<v Speaker 4>This is from News Nations.

683
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<v Speaker 2>So the search for the retired Air Force general could

684
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<v Speaker 2>end grimly. Ex FBI agent says, all right, again, let's

685
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>just break it down here. So newly discovered information about

686
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<v Speaker 2>the disappearance of retired Air Force Major General William Neil

687
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<v Speaker 2>McCaslin does not bode well for the safe return of

688
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 2>the sixty eight year old. A former FBI special agent suggests.

689
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Audio of the nine one one call from his spouse,

690
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Susan Wilkerson, made to emergency dispatchers on February twenty seventh,

691
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.280
<v Speaker 2>recently shed light on the circumstances of McCaslin leaving his

692
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Albuquerque New Mexico home on foot with a sidearm. I

693
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>have some indication that he must have planned not to

694
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 2>be found, said Wilkerson, his wife, who also cited medical

695
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 2>problems her spouse had been experiencing. So she's thinking, or

696
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>at least alleging, that this was him going off to

697
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<v Speaker 2>take his own life essentially, or at least that's the

698
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>way she's trying to word this.

699
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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's go on here.

700
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<v Speaker 3>So seems rather odd.

701
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<v Speaker 2>You know, especially somebody who I've looked deeper into this.

702
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 2>He did not suffer from dementia as far as we know.

703
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have any kind of cancer that's riddling his

704
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 2>body and eating him alive or any of that shit. Yeah,

705
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 2>he had some medical problems. He's eighty six years old.

706
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 2>That happened.

707
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 3>He's number seven on the list, right.

708
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 5>I think after the first two or three, I think

709
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 5>maybe indicated to him that something is afoot, and so

710
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 5>maybe to spare, maybe to spare her life, he took off. Yeah,

711
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe maybe he knew people were out to

712
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 5>get him and he decided to take him head on.

713
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, who knows what could happen.

714
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's get into it more so Jennifer Coffin Daffer. Wow,

715
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 2>what an unfortunate last name? What Jennifer Coffin Daffer bro

716
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 2>At that point, choose one goat.

717
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Go just be Coffin masical, he could be badass Daffer.

718
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Either one could be a last name.

719
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:04.400
<v Speaker 5>But like your name, miss Coffin, I mean the jokes

720
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<v Speaker 5>that I would go along?

721
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, can you legitimately see her Coffin can seriously? Like

722
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in a in a courtroom setting, that's.

723
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<v Speaker 3>That's like a guy I served with his last name

724
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>was dick Off.

725
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yo, Yeah, I know, it's not even joking. I had

726
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>a girl in high school. Her name was Dickerhoof, and

727
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like.

728
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Dicker hoof, Yes, yeah, dicker Hoof.

729
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 4>And she was solid. She was one of my homies

730
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<v Speaker 4>and all these things.

731
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 3>But like, could you imagine if dicker Hoof met dick Off.

732
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 2>It's funnier too because she was a lesbian. So that's

733
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<v Speaker 2>that was the jokes throughout themselves.

734
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<v Speaker 3>The names.

735
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Who made up these names, by the way, like let's

736
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 5>really like just quick side tangent.

737
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 3>People had to make up these names.

738
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Those asshole history an island whenever something made.

739
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 5>These names up, and then they just like went with it.

740
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 5>They could have at any point decided, you know what,

741
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 5>that's not actually how you pronounce our name. Let's maybe

742
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 5>change this into something now we're just gonna keep it.

743
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dig off and dick and hoof.

744
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's so like I understand the dudes of

745
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Staten Island that couldn't pronounce that shit was basically like,

746
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what, fuck it, this is how we doing it.

747
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 4>So my my one of.

748
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>My ex wives, her family's name when they got off

749
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 2>the boat was Aloisio. So the dude in Staaten Island

750
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 2>was like, m Lewis. There we go boom. Yeah, they

751
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 2>took Aluisio and turned that into Lewis and so like

752
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole thing, right, all right, And I know

753
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 2>that happens to a bunch of people whose names from

754
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 2>the old Country didn't make it across. But I'm wondering

755
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 2>how many of those assholes were specific in what they

756
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 2>put down.

757
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Like, yeah, could.

758
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 5>You imagine just being bored and start making people's last

759
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 5>names up, just like absolutely just making up the most

760
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 5>ridiculous shit and just be like, oh, well.

761
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I bet this was like coaufind' hafl sign or something.

762
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Like coffin daff or Yeah, there we go. I heard

763
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that puff and daff right anyway. Anyway, So excuse us,

764
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 2>miss Jennifer, if you're listening to the pod. I don't

765
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 2>mean to make fun, but I mean you've heard it before,

766
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 2>You've had two of you live in America. Anyway, beside

767
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the point, So, Jennifer Coffendaffer News Nation Law and Justice

768
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>contributor notes that McCaslin reportedly did not take his wallet,

769
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 2>his phone, a tracking device, or even his glasses. So

770
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and again, I don't know if he needs these glasses

771
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>to see far away.

772
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 4>Were they readers? I'm just basic, you know, drugstore magnifiers.

773
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. But again, this would stand to reason

774
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 4>that he had no intentions of coming home or being

775
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 4>found for sure.

776
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 5>But if his aliens and he knew, could be like

777
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 5>he just knew that they were coming, or they'd been

778
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 5>watching him and he just was like, you know what,

779
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 5>let's go.

780
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 2>It could be or could also be bad acting American government. Yeah,

781
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>it could be the American government. It could be a

782
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 2>foreign agent. It could be so many things. There's literally

783
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 2>no crazy answers on this because the entire situation is

784
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 2>so crazy that at this point, sure, like why the

785
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 2>fuck not? It totally fucking could have been new Neptonians, Neptunians.

786
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you would call.

787
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.800
<v Speaker 2>The ones from Neptune, the Neptune, Like we know what

788
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Martians are, but I don't know what them from Neptune

789
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>is called Neptunians, Nepton's I don't fucking know.

790
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 4>But it's at the point it could have been one

791
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 4>of them that did it. Why, I don't know.

792
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they knew him from their time at Right Patterson

793
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>whenever Area fifty one and the Roswell crash happened, like

794
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know, But to say that aliens abducted

795
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 2>him is honestly not the craziest fucking opportunity or the

796
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 2>craziest option on the table.

797
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 4>That's the wild part. That's not the craziest.

798
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 5>I just don't think it's like that far fetch, especially

799
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 5>with what's going on.

800
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So continuing on here from Coffin Daffer, I truly

801
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>believe he left in this situation not to be found again,

802
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 2>which okay.

803
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, based on the known facts.

804
00:43:56.519 --> 00:44:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Coffendaffer said she doesn't put much stock in speculation at

805
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Macastle was targeted because of his past involvement with secret

806
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>government programs that may have included UFOs. So she doesn't

807
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>think that that has anything to do with this whatsoever,

808
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And it.

809
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Should be a big red flag for everybody. Yeah, Like

810
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 3>as soon as the media.

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00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 5>It's like, there has nothing to do with UFOs. Look

812
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 5>over there, it's like, wait this okay.

813
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>So clearly this guy was the one that certified people's

814
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 2>top secret clearances. He was the one who worked directly

815
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 2>under the top dog, who was over the entire department

816
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>over who got what disclosure within the government.

817
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Clearly that has nothing to do with his What are

818
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 4>we fucking talking about, Coffin Daffer?

819
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 2>What are we doing?

820
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Nearly nothing, nothing at all.

821
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 4>Coffin Daffer.

822
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're finding ways to say her name.

823
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Coffin Daffer. I can't do it like I'm trying to.

824
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find out Draco malfoy way of doing it.

825
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.079
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't have the same I didn't. It doesn't

826
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<v Speaker 2>have the.

827
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Same like red and it's this PoTA you know what

828
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

829
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 5>But like, so obviously since I mentioned this, we clearly

830
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 5>are going to more lean towards the UFO situation, especially

831
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 5>since how many of them are dead and missing. Well,

832
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.880
<v Speaker 5>you two were missing. A couple of them are dead.

833
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And again again we don't know his whereabouts. It's

834
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 2>very possible that he is dead in a cave somewhere

835
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 2>in the desert right now.

836
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 4>It's very possible.

837
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 2>But is how probable, right, and how likely is it that,

838
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>especially this guy that had this level of clearance. This

839
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like some desk jockey, like I mean, he was,

840
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>but not not in the way that we're thinking.

841
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Like, he wasn't some data analysts somewhere right.

842
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't. Uh, he wasn't working at some small logistics

843
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>space and maybe knew a thing or two he wasn't

844
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. So he had dudes in you know, black

845
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 2>tacked out suits coming and kicking in his door because

846
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.519
<v Speaker 2>he knew a thing he shouldn't have. No, your boy

847
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 2>had national secrets, like he absolutely knew things that most

848
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>human beings don't know. And for him to just.

849
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 5>Go to standard reason them being kidnapped by national by

850
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 5>people that are going against America, especially with old Girl,

851
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 5>the first one that went missing and her you know

852
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 5>rocket foreign rocket propulsion technology.

853
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're gonna talk about her next.

854
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

855
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 5>So with them, With them two alone, that would stand

856
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 5>a reason that they got kidnapped by Russia, China, you name,

857
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 5>North Korea, whoever.

858
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, now with that also, I have heard it proposed.

859
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much weight there is to this,

860
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 2>but i've heard it proposed that mccaslin's disappearance is actually

861
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>more in line and connected with the Epstein files, not

862
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 2>that he was on them or he's not.

863
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 5>Actually I checked every name so far in the list,

864
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 5>and the only one that came up with a flag

865
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 5>was the last one, number nine right, and it was

866
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 5>flagged in newspaper clippings that Epstein kept. Ye, and there

867
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 5>was an article that was produced every couple months, and

868
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 5>Epstein would get these lowdowns and he was a part

869
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 5>of this big chain. For those of you that haven't

870
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 5>looked into stuff, he was part of this big change

871
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 5>that had all the big wigs to the Clintons, the

872
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Obama everybody in this email chain, and pretty much it

873
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:31.519
<v Speaker 5>was breaking down foreign foreign policies or foreign issues, national issues, money,

874
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 5>you name it. It's this like giant pretty much a

875
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.639
<v Speaker 5>sit rep of what's happening in the world. And that

876
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 5>his name got flagged in that other than that, all

877
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 5>the other ones are completely clean, which for those of

878
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 5>everyone that's been looking at scientists, for them to all

879
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 5>be clean and be that high in their fields, they

880
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.519
<v Speaker 5>had to have been after Epstein or not dealing in

881
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 5>the same circles that drew them into Epstein.

882
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 2>So well.

883
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 4>So that's the point here.

884
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that mcaslin had had some sort of

885
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>an island connection, not in the physical sense.

886
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 4>I have heard it speculated that.

887
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>He would have known who was and wasn't on the list,

888
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 2>like the actual factual names, because he was the person

889
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that got the clearance for all the things he was

890
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Whenever the FBI had to hire five hundred new people

891
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>specifically to redact how many times Donald Trump's name was

892
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>mentioned in those files, right, they had to get a

893
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 2>bunch of clearances done with a quickness to see that.

894
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So it would stand to reason that they would have

895
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 2>had to go through somebody that McCaslin knew.

896
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 4>So I don't.

897
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Again, I'm not saying that there's a direct line here.

898
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I have heard some people speculated.

899
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

900
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't personally believe that that's what this is about, either,

901
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying if we're gonna talk about all

902
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 2>the possibilities, we might as.

903
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 4>Well bring that one up as well.

904
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 2>There are some internet forums and some places where you'll

905
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>find people saying that macass Upland's Epstein connections weren't like

906
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 2>I said. They're not a direct line. They're more like tertiary.

907
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>But beside the point, we're moving forward anyway, based on

908
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the known facts. We talked about that. So, the missing

909
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Air Force general's wife told nine to one one that

910
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.119
<v Speaker 2>he planned not to be found. My husband is missing.

911
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 2>It has been about three hours, and I have some

912
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 2>indication that he must have planned not to be found.

913
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what she told the dispatcher in an audio obtained

914
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 2>by law on Crime Network.

915
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.119
<v Speaker 4>I think he's on foot. All of our cars and

916
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:30.159
<v Speaker 4>bicycles are in the.

917
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Garage, so we don't even know if he's on foot,

918
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.519
<v Speaker 2>like we it's possible he got picked up by a

919
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>car or you know, taken space path spacecraft or levitated.

920
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 2>We're right, we don't find him, no doubt, no doubt.

921
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

922
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Wilkerson told the dispatch that she had left for a

923
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>doctor's appointment and returned about an hour later to find

924
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 2>her husband gone. She noted that his phone was turned

925
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 2>off and left behind, which she explained seems kind of

926
00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 2>deliberate because he's always got his phone. So this is

927
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the guy William Neil McCaslin. And that's about it as

928
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 2>far as that one goes. So let's get into the

929
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>next one here. We talked about McCastle in a bit

930
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 2>on the episode about a week and a half ago,

931
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>so we might as well just go into the next

932
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 2>one here. So nine one one call reveals new information

933
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 2>about double murder.

934
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Suicide in Miami Valley.

935
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now this is the soap opera one where I

936
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know all of the connections, but there's clearly a

937
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:31.280
<v Speaker 2>connection to.

938
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 4>Be made here. But let's talk about it here.

939
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Nine one one calls revealed new information about a double

940
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 2>murder suicide in Miami Valley over the weekend. For the record,

941
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 2>we are not talking about Miami, Florida. We're talking about Miami, Ohio,

942
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 2>which didn't know that was a thing until this.

943
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

944
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>As news reported on New seven Center New Center seven

945
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>at six West, Milton, Police Chief Doyle Wright confirmed the

946
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 2>couple found early Saturday morning lived in Hubver Heights or

947
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Huber Heights, I don't know. However, authorities aren't sure why

948
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Jacob Pritchard drove to Miami County near early Saturday, but

949
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they do believe he killed his wife, Jamie Pritchard. They

950
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 2>also believe he killed twenty five year old Jamie Gustitis

951
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 2>in Sugar Creek Township. The news station obtained nine to

952
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>one one calls that were made in Green County about

953
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.599
<v Speaker 2>three hours before Jacob traveled north direct quote here, I

954
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>peecked my head out the door and there was a

955
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>guy on their deck and I said hello, and he said,

956
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 2>get back in. We have a gun, and he jumped

957
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 2>off the deck and ran. So apparently the guy Jacob,

958
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>after killing his wife and stuffn her in the trunk

959
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of the car, drove to the other Jamie's house and

960
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was banging on the door with a pistol, and apparently

961
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know at what point he was successful in

962
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>breaking in and shooting her as well, but a neighbor

963
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>heard the commotion and he said, we have a gun.

964
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>So again, I don't know if he was out of

965
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>his mind, but the neighbor says she only saw one

966
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 2>guy on the porch, so I don't know. We'll get

967
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 2>back and we'll read more into it here. So the

968
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 2>panic caller brought Sugar Creek Township police to a condo

969
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>at the Sugar Point New Point Homes, Sugar Point New

970
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Point Homes. Good God, about two am on Saturday. He

971
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.320
<v Speaker 2>woke me up out of a dead sleep. He was

972
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 2>pounding on.

973
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 4>The door with something, she told dispatchers.

974
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Police started their investigation after finding Gustiitis dead, but it

975
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>widened after West Milton police found a suspicious car in

976
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 2>the city's Buildings parking lot. Inside the trunk, officers found

977
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 2>thirty three year old Janie Pritcher dead. Her thirty four

978
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 2>year old husband, Jacob Pritcher, was found next to the car,

979
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>dead from an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound. The couple

980
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 2>lived in Humor Heights, and the violence shocked the neighbors,

981
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 2>which apparently this is like a really quiet suburb. We're

982
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.639
<v Speaker 2>all shocked, Like I'm shocked. We're heartbroken and sick to

983
00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:59.159
<v Speaker 2>our stomachs about all this, and worried about the kids.

984
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 2>One neighbor previous told them so. Apparently they had three kids.

985
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Wright said. Police don't believe the children saw or knew

986
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 2>what happened. Investigators in Hubert Heights and Sugar Creek Township

987
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:14.280
<v Speaker 2>are now working with the West Milton Police. Officers haven't

988
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 2>revealed a motive, but did identify Gustitis as an active

989
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 2>duty Air Force member and said both the preachers worked

990
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 2>there as civilian employees, so they all worked on right, Patterson,

991
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Just we're all on the same page here. Police say

992
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>they are just at the beginning of the investigation and

993
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't determined a motive at this time. New Center seven

994
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>will continue to follow this story. So this is from

995
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:41.440
<v Speaker 2>October twenty seventh, of twenty twenty five. There is still

996
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 2>no motive, but let's get into it here. So People

997
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>magazine believe it or not. We got two articles from

998
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>People today and man, here's the quote. Here's the title.

999
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 2>He murdered his wife, left her in open trunk and

1000
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 2>then killed himself and the trail of blood didn't stop

1001
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>there sor right, break it down a little bit further here,

1002
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 2>authorities are investigating the apparent murder of US Air Force

1003
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 2>lieutenant in Ohio who was fatally shot by a coworker

1004
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.679
<v Speaker 2>with authorities say went on to kill his wife and

1005
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:18.159
<v Speaker 2>then himself. So this is saying that apparently they the

1006
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 2>wife and him went to kill Jamie, and then he

1007
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.679
<v Speaker 2>killed his wife and put her in the in the

1008
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 2>trunk and then drove the car somewhere and killed himself.

1009
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Slightly different time events.

1010
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 5>But okay, okay, but like, why why go out of

1011
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 5>their way to go and kill her?

1012
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.639
<v Speaker 4>And apparently this is not a small drive like her

1013
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 4>that way?

1014
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 5>So what connection I mean, even if this was a

1015
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 5>love triangle situation, what connection did they have between between

1016
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 5>a financial person in this science place, an aerospace at

1017
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 5>recon and a human performance wing person. Yeah, that's a

1018
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 5>really interesting thing. I wonder what they'd Maybe maybe they

1019
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 5>discovered stuff, maybe they all individually found something, or maybe

1020
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they could be it could be a love

1021
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.199
<v Speaker 5>triangle and it had just gone sour I guess maybe,

1022
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 5>or it could be something else.

1023
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Let's read more. Let's see what's up here.

1024
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 2>So the Air Force First Lieutenant Jamie Gustiitis, twenty five

1025
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 2>at the Sugar Creek Township, Ohio, was murdered when Jacob

1026
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Richard at Hebert Heights broken to her apartment at two

1027
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 2>am on Saturday, October twenty fifth and fatally shot her.

1028
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 4>According to a press release from the police.

1029
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Department, Pritchard had also killed his wife, Jamie Pritchard thirty

1030
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>three place or dead body in the trunk of the car,

1031
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and at four twenty two am drove to the West

1032
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Milton Municipal parking lot, where he died by suicide a

1033
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>minute later near the open trunk. Pritchard left the trunk

1034
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.679
<v Speaker 2>open so officers who found him would also find Jamie

1035
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 2>in the trunk. According to the sh Arif's Office, who

1036
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>had reviewed surveillance footage of the incident, authorities said they

1037
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>do not know when or where Jamie was killed and

1038
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 2>are currently investigating the timeline of events. Now, questions are

1039
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>swirling about Pritchard or why Pritchard killed Gustitas, a work

1040
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 2>acquaintance of the couple, so they're not even sure if

1041
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 2>they were like friends. They just knew that they worked

1042
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.159
<v Speaker 2>in the same on the same base. But right, Patterson

1043
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:26.280
<v Speaker 2>is not a small base. It's also not like a

1044
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.119
<v Speaker 2>massive installation either. It's it's a decent.

1045
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 5>Tell me they didn't go through their phone records or

1046
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:36.599
<v Speaker 5>their emails or the text messages or anything. I mean,

1047
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily, just a random person that they decided, So

1048
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't see that happening so right.

1049
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Patterson Air Force Base, where the three worked, said in

1050
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 2>a release that Gustiitis and Jacob worked in the Air

1051
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Force Research Laboratory, so they worked directly or at least

1052
00:56:56.199 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 2>semi close together, and Jamie worked in life cycle management center,

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00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 2>so it's the wife worked in those So they.

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00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 5>Set it up to seem like this was the wife

1055
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 5>found out about the affair, he killed her, then he'd

1056
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 5>drove all the way over there to kill old girl

1057
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 5>and then kill himself.

1058
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 4>It didn't It doesn't make sense. None of it does.

1059
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 5>Or they were working on something that involved human performance

1060
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 5>and aerospace reconnaissance, so being able to put people in

1061
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 5>space that they're doing recon potentially of some hype and

1062
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 5>they maybe maybe they discovered something or I don't know,

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00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:43.480
<v Speaker 5>maybe they I'm not sure.

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00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.679
<v Speaker 2>I could see a potential that this was like maybe

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00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a love triangle situation. Maybe he had a work wife,

1066
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>younger woman that she's only twenty five, right, she was

1067
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a first lieutenant, so she had only been out of

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00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 2>college for a couple of years.

1069
00:57:58.159 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 4>This is probably her first.

1070
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Duty station on very real levels, and perhaps this was

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00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a love affair that went wrong and he just hated

1072
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>his wife and his three kids and didn't see any

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00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>way out.

1074
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:12.480
<v Speaker 4>So he you know, that's that's possible.

1075
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm murder suicides happened all the time, love triangles happened,

1076
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 2>you see what I'm saying That Like, individually, if this

1077
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 2>was the only thing, okay, it's wild, but sure, crazier

1078
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 2>shit has happened. It's the combination of all of these

1079
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.599
<v Speaker 2>individual instances and how the connections are to where it's like, Okay, no,

1080
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.119
<v Speaker 2>there's way too many red flags on the play for

1081
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:40.559
<v Speaker 2>us to side step the entirety. But anyway, all right,

1082
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna talk more about them later on when

1083
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 2>we get to the speculation side of things. But now

1084
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the rocket scientists with ties to the

1085
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 2>missing Air Force general associated with UFOs disappearing under early

1086
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 2>similar circumstances. So we've already talked about General McCaslin disappearing.

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00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk a little bit more about Monica Reza. She

1088
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 2>went missing on the morning of June twenty second, twenty

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00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, in the Angelus National Forest, where hiking with

1090
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>two experienced companions who were exploring the popular Mount Waterman Trail.

1091
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 2>According to a Facebook page, dedicad to finding her, so

1092
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't alone. She went hiking with two of her

1093
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:28.400
<v Speaker 2>friends to a very popular hiking trail, so there's gonna

1094
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.559
<v Speaker 2>be even if she like slipped and hurt herself and

1095
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:32.880
<v Speaker 2>fell down or whatever, there's gonna be someone that's right

1096
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 2>there that could see her. And the two people that

1097
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 2>were with her, she was behind them a good bit

1098
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't think anything of it, and then she's

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00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 2>just gone.

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00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:41.800
<v Speaker 4>But okay.

1101
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Volunteers and authorities searched the area for months using helicopters, radars,

1102
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 2>droves of hikers, and dogs, but it found no trace

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00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.559
<v Speaker 2>of Reza, sixty, who was still considered a missing person

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00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.280
<v Speaker 2>according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Reza used

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00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 2>the last name Jacinto and her wildly success professional career

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01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 2>as a materials scientist at Aerojet Rocket Dye, which was

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01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.119
<v Speaker 2>funded for years by NASA and the Air Force Research Laboratory,

1108
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 2>according to Space News. So this is her in her

1109
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.519
<v Speaker 2>professional setting, but again in any of her public or

1110
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.559
<v Speaker 2>as a professional papers, you'll find Wasinta as her last name.

1111
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Reza, who used last name Wassina professionally, is

1112
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 2>the creator of a super alloy which was funded by

1113
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 2>an Air Force lab that was headed up by missing

1114
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 2>retired Air Force General William mccasle, and we talked about that.

1115
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Her patented nickelbased super alloy Mondeloyd brought her into the

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01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 2>orbit of McCaslin, who oversaw the Air Force group that

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01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 2>funded research in the early two thousands into advanced materials

1118
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 2>needed for reusable space vehicles and weapons. McCaslin was Material

1119
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Wing director of the Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicle

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01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Directorate and commander of the Phillips Research Site at Kurland

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01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base from one to four, which would directly

1122
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 2>pertain to Resl's research, according to his official Air Force biography.

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01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Because Mondaloi is a familiar is a family of alloys,

1124
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I worked with the Air Force to scale up production,

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01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 2>look at different processing methods, and get the material ready

1126
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 2>for insertion into a rocket engine. She told Space News

1127
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:23.559
<v Speaker 2>this in twenty seventeen. Aerojet Rocketdyne achieved a major milestone

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01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and rocket engine Technologies in twenty sixteen based on Rezl's advancement.

1129
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:31.039
<v Speaker 2>According to Air Force press release, an objective of this

1130
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 2>program is to help eliminate the US's reliance on foreign

1131
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 2>rocket propulsion technology, Major General Tom Maselo. Yeah, the AFURL

1132
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 2>commander set at the time, this is key to ensuring

1133
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>our national security, and the people of the Rocket Propulsion

1134
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Division are making impressive strides in achieving our goal. Aerojet

1135
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:56.039
<v Speaker 2>rocketdine was sold in twenty twenty three for a whopping

1136
01:01:56.119 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 2>four point seven billion dollars to military defense contractor ELPs

1137
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 2>three Technologies. Yeah, if you look on their website, Aerojet

1138
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Rocket nine is owned by L three to this day.

1139
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Which we already talked about mcaslin. I'm not gonna waste

1140
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:14.679
<v Speaker 2>anybody's time talking about him more, but it is worth mentioning.

1141
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 2>He went missing just six days after Trump announced that

1142
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.159
<v Speaker 2>he would be releasing files pertaining to UFOs and aliens.

1143
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.599
<v Speaker 2>McCaslin was a gatekeeper and a participant in the UFO community,

1144
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 2>a source previously told the Post. So, I feel like

1145
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 2>we can't we can't understate that so as far as

1146
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 2>this goes, Actually, no, we're gonna play this quick little

1147
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.360
<v Speaker 2>news clip talking about it more here. Some of it's

1148
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 2>going to restate what we already talked about, but it's

1149
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 2>very interesting to hear it from this perspective. Reza was

1150
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 2>not a low lying individual as far as this goes.

1151
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying she was necessarily a Tony Stark type figure,

1152
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 2>but she was absolutely a leader in her field and

1153
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 2>in her industry.

1154
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.599
<v Speaker 4>So let's watch this together. For at hired.

1155
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:04.760
<v Speaker 7>Air Force general who vanished in New Mexico. William mccaslan

1156
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 7>went missing last month. Members of Congress are warning this

1157
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 7>could be a national security issue. The general was involved

1158
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 7>with the Pentagon's most advanced aerospace research. He oversaw a

1159
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 7>classified space weapons program. McCasland was in charge of the

1160
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.280
<v Speaker 7>Air Force Research Lab at a base in Ohio. It's

1161
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:29.519
<v Speaker 7>rumored that base holds extra terrestrial debris from the Roswell

1162
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.800
<v Speaker 7>crash site. The general was tied in with the UFO community,

1163
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 7>A source told The New York Post the general was

1164
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.840
<v Speaker 7>a gatekeeper for anything UFO related in the Air Force.

1165
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 7>He retired due to mental fog, but investigators say he's

1166
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 7>still highly intelligent and capable. McCasland was an avid hiker.

1167
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 7>His wife last saw him leaving with a backpack and

1168
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 7>a thirty eight revolver, no phone, no glasses. He disappeared

1169
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 7>six days right after Trump announced he was releasing the

1170
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 7>UFO files, and he's not the only one. Eight months

1171
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.960
<v Speaker 7>before the General vanished, a rocket scientists who worked under

1172
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 7>him years ago also went missing. She was hiking in

1173
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 7>California with two other people. They saw her smiling and

1174
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.599
<v Speaker 7>waving thirty feet behind them. When they turned back again,

1175
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:26.480
<v Speaker 7>she was gone, vanished in plain sight. They searched for

1176
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 7>days and couldn't find any trace of her. This is

1177
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:33.239
<v Speaker 7>a very very strange situation. And eleven days before the

1178
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 7>General disappeared, another scientist was shot dead on his porch.

1179
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.840
<v Speaker 7>Carl Grillmar was known for discovering signs of water on

1180
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 7>a distant planet, and he was gunned down in California.

1181
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 7>Freddie Snyder was later charged with his murder. He has

1182
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:53.039
<v Speaker 7>a rap sheet, but was led out of jail by

1183
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 7>a newsome appointed judge weeks before he allegedly killed the scientist.

1184
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 7>We still don't know his motive, and we don't know

1185
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 7>if these cases are even connected, but this many top

1186
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 7>scientists getting killed or going missing and just under a

1187
01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:12.800
<v Speaker 7>year looks like a major red flag. Chris Schwecker is

1188
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:17.280
<v Speaker 7>a former assistant FBI director. Chris the you know the

1189
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:21.239
<v Speaker 7>mind goes right to a foreign intelligence service is that

1190
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 7>where your gut tells you this is going towards Yeah, it.

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01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Is, Jesse.

1192
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I understand the the UFO angle has a

1193
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 6>lot of interest and people love to kind of dabble

1194
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 6>in that area with their theories. But if you look

1195
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 6>at these two, they were both involved in very very

1196
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 6>sensitive rocket propulsion programs associated with missiles and space travel.

1197
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 6>And there was one particular piece of technology, type of

1198
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 6>certain type of metal that really liberated us from having

1199
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.039
<v Speaker 6>to rely on Russian Soviet technology back in the day.

1200
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 6>So it's really sensitive stuff. I'm not a big believer

1201
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.440
<v Speaker 6>in coincidences. So you know, if I were, if I

1202
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.159
<v Speaker 6>were heading up the FBI Field Office or the FBI

1203
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.159
<v Speaker 6>right now, I would have a full team on this

1204
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 6>one just to make sure. I mean, I'd look at everything,

1205
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 6>dissect their lives, and just see if there's any connection

1206
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 6>to some hostile foreign intelligence service. They want that information.

1207
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:21.840
<v Speaker 6>They've been working to get it for years and years.

1208
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, India, Pakistan, even some of our friends are

1209
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 6>trying to get that type of technology from us, and

1210
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 6>they'd stop at nothing to get it.

1211
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we did hear reports that the UFOs that were

1212
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:40.119
<v Speaker 7>recovered are being exploited to I guess, take advantage of

1213
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 7>whatever technology that's so advanced, and we could apply that

1214
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 7>to our military, and there's kind of an arms race,

1215
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, who could ramp up this UFO technology the fastest.

1216
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 7>Would that be a motive and also a financial motive too, well.

1217
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, the motivation to get your hands on

1218
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 6>that technicology cuts both ways, you know, the one they

1219
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 6>would like to socially engineer their way into it, get

1220
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:10.079
<v Speaker 6>it that way, get it through some sort of other

1221
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:14.679
<v Speaker 6>methods that they use are getting into our military bases

1222
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:19.920
<v Speaker 6>with plants, and in some cases they'll compromise a scientist,

1223
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.159
<v Speaker 6>and that you know, that can lead to problems, of course,

1224
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:25.400
<v Speaker 6>to lead the problems. But he left with a thirty

1225
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 6>eight caliber weapon and a backpack and no wallet, no phone,

1226
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 6>So you wonder what he was really up to here.

1227
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:35.159
<v Speaker 6>You know, he did he anticipate not coming back, no wallet,

1228
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.039
<v Speaker 6>no phone, and what was he doing with the thirty

1229
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 6>eight caliber weapon? You wonder if he was you know,

1230
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:43.400
<v Speaker 6>if he had been compromised and he was going to,

1231
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:49.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, take the extreme measures to deal with it himself.

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01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:55.360
<v Speaker 2>So I gotta say, if these people were all abducted

1233
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:59.119
<v Speaker 2>from their homes some sort of or even just abducted.

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01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:03.239
<v Speaker 2>In general, I would say, like in you know, maybe

1235
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.000
<v Speaker 2>their car was broken into, there was a carjacking gone awry,

1236
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and we haven't seen them yet, anything like that.

1237
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I would say it was.

1238
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Probably more likely a foreign agency or something along these lines.

1239
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.039
<v Speaker 2>The way in which two of these three that were

1240
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned were taking it doesn't that doesn't read to

1241
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>me like a foreign agency did this. It's possible. Yes,

1242
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:28.359
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound like it's to me, but they think

1243
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.439
<v Speaker 2>it does, right, it absolutely does. So now they brought

1244
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:37.439
<v Speaker 2>up that third one, the Caltech astrophysicist that was killed

1245
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.479
<v Speaker 2>at his home, gunned down, they said, and there is

1246
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 2>a guy that was charged. I don't necessarily believe that

1247
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:47.840
<v Speaker 2>he's the one that did it, to be honest with you.

1248
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 2>And if he was, I also find it interesting that

1249
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.399
<v Speaker 2>he already had a long rap sheet and was let

1250
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 2>go by a judge that Newsom appointed, because Gavin Newsom's

1251
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 2>a piece of shit. But this dude, who was already

1252
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:07.239
<v Speaker 2>charged with violent crimes was let go and then right

1253
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:09.159
<v Speaker 2>then went to go kill this dude.

1254
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Sounds like somebody And if that guy.

1255
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Was the one that did it, hypothetically, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody might have put him up to a job, right,

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<v Speaker 2>A little hitman action, little desperado action.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, let's read more about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nine year old man charged with killing renowned Caltech

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<v Speaker 2>astrophysicists at his Lano home so Lono, California. A twenty

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01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:35.760
<v Speaker 2>nine year old Lono man is in custody charged with

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<v Speaker 2>killing a Caltech astrophysicist Monday after carjacking his own relative

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<v Speaker 2>and burglarizing a home. La County Sheriff detectives say sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven year old Carl Grillmaller Grill Maayre rather was found

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<v Speaker 2>shot to death on the porch of his home in

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<v Speaker 2>rural Lano. Deputies had arrested Freddy Snyder later in the

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<v Speaker 2>day for carjacking and soon linked him to Grill maayre shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>They arrested him for a carjacking and then conveniently, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this really renowned scientist just got shot on his porch

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. Hey, you're a violent criminal. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to pass by that a gay?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure enough you did?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Hey, here you go. So deputies had arrested

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<v Speaker 2>Freddy Snyder already talked about that. The motive for the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting has not been released, and detectives don't believe the

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<v Speaker 2>two men knew each other.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, so just randomly went out of his way in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of nowhere just to shoot this man. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if there's any you know, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 5>they actually looked at his house and any of his

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<v Speaker 5>research was gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Snyder had been arrested in December after trespassing on

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01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Grillmayer's property while carrying a rifle.

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<v Speaker 4>So they didn't know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was arrested on his property already, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had a rifle in his hands.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not weird or anything. So they have no connection.

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<v Speaker 5>Just randomly this man s's with a rifle in his

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<v Speaker 5>hands on your property, gets arrested, then comes back and

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<v Speaker 5>kills you.

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<v Speaker 3>Right for what purpose?

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01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:09.479
<v Speaker 2>So it sounds like back to what I was saying

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<v Speaker 2>about him possibly being a hit Man type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not when I say hit man, Please good

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<v Speaker 2>cult members do not think that. I mean like the

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<v Speaker 2>movie hit Man, where these like super top secret, highly

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<v Speaker 2>trained advanced dudes are just doing all this sexy James

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<v Speaker 2>Bonch it, no, No, Typically a hit man murder is

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01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.399
<v Speaker 2>a lot messier. You know, you find some guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>got literally nothing left to lose, and you pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, you know, you offer him anyway twenty.

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01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Grand to go take out somebody, and you know, you

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01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:42.199
<v Speaker 2>pay him half now half. After the job's done, he

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01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 2>uses a little bit of that money to go buy

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01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the weapon of choice. He goes and does the job,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he gets caught, I don't know, never met

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. You give him fake names, you give it

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01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, you do all these things to where he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's basically seen as like the torpedo. He's the guy

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01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna go in and do the things. And if

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<v Speaker 2>he gets got that's a hymn problem. If he successfully

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<v Speaker 2>completes the mission and comes back to you, then like cool,

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<v Speaker 2>you still might you know, stick him with the bill

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<v Speaker 2>anyway and kill him afterwards, just to silence any loose ends.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a very you know, known thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it stands to reason that that seems like what's

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<v Speaker 2>really going on here, especially whenever these two had never

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01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 2>actually met, and Snyder, who had a long rap sheet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like he was really delving into the astrophysicist

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01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, realms. It's not like this was a former

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01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 2>student that was spurned by his professor or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no connections to be found here. But okay, let's

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<v Speaker 4>keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Grill Maher had worked at Caltech as an astronomer and

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<v Speaker 2>an astrophysicist for thirty years, twenty six of those years

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<v Speaker 2>with fellow scientists Sergio Fajardo Acosta, these names, I swear. Okay,

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01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 2>you just sent me another article with wich one is

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01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 2>this about?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is just a shit ton of missing scientists

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01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 5>actually one hundred and sixteen of them that have been

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<v Speaker 5>murdered and stuff in the last like less than a decade,

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<v Speaker 5>well the last decade pretty much. And they're all connected

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01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 5>to each other. And like I was reading into I

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01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 5>found more. There was one that was killed in Greece

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01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:28.520
<v Speaker 5>and they don't understand why she got killed.

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01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.199
<v Speaker 3>She was found in the we'll.

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01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Get to that.

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01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, take away from what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I just sent it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just yeah, yeah, but I was just found

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01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:41.159
<v Speaker 5>all of these scientists that all somehow are connected.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, okay.

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01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Are they connected to what's going on currently or just

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01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:46.520
<v Speaker 2>other stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, They're scientists in all different types of fields. To

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01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:53.039
<v Speaker 5>be honest with you, they're they're all over the place.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's in nuclear engineers, there's people that work in antarctica.

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01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:01.560
<v Speaker 3>There's all sorts of stuff, aerospace, sow all right.

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01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So getting back to Grill Maher, what was unique about

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<v Speaker 2>Carl in his irreplaceable and he is irreplaceable was the

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01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:13.279
<v Speaker 2>ingenuity and creativity, applying methods that nobody had ever thought

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01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of before in very unique detective type methods. For Hara

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01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Costo said, he was extremely hard working, extremely creative, and

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<v Speaker 2>the most generous individual.

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<v Speaker 4>One could imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Grill Maher was renowned for his studies on the collisions

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01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.319
<v Speaker 2>of galaxies and the search for water on planets outside

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01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of our solar system. Snyder had charged has been charged

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<v Speaker 2>with several felonies, including murder, burglary, and carjacking. His bail

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01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Speaker 2>has been set at two million dollars. So anyway, anyway,

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01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the connections are there. Let's go ahead and listen

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01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.479
<v Speaker 2>to this real quick, and it's going to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>more about the situation.

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<v Speaker 8>What five, a Caltech scientist is being remembered by colleagues

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<v Speaker 8>after he was shot and killed right outside his home.

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<v Speaker 8>The shooting happened in Yano, an area right between Palmdale

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<v Speaker 8>and Victorville.

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<v Speaker 2>I with as soon as order.

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<v Speaker 8>Rob Hayes Live Pasadena with more on what happened. Rod.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the motive behind this murder has not been released

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<v Speaker 9>just yet, but we do know that the man suspected

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<v Speaker 9>of killing that cal Tech scientist was arrested on his

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01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:18.359
<v Speaker 9>property with a rifle just a couple months ago. Caltech,

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<v Speaker 9>who is Carl Grillmaer's professional home for the past thirty years.

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<v Speaker 9>Here his life centered on the science of the vast

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01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 9>emptiness of space, but it was crime in the vast

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01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 9>emptiness of the Analope Valley that took his life. The

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01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:35.239
<v Speaker 9>sixty seven year old astrophysicist was gunned down Monday on

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<v Speaker 9>the porch of his home in the barren stretches of Yano,

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<v Speaker 9>the middle of nowhere, which was perfect for his home

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01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:42.359
<v Speaker 9>built observatory.

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<v Speaker 3>You need very dark skies, and that's why he built

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<v Speaker 3>a nice little oratory up there.

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<v Speaker 9>Sergio Fajardo Acosta worked alongside grill Maare for more than

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01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 9>a quarter century, the two studying the collisions of galaxies

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01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:59.680
<v Speaker 9>and searching for water on planets outside our Solar system

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01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 9>sheriff's deputy. He's found Grill Mayor shot to death early

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01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.239
<v Speaker 9>Monday morning outside his home. A short time later, while

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01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:09.520
<v Speaker 9>working on a carjacking case, they arrested twenty nine year

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01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 9>old Freddy Snyder, also of Jano, and linked him to

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01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:17.840
<v Speaker 9>Grillmayer's death. He's been charged with several crimes, including murder, burglary,

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01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 9>and carjacking. Investigators don't believe Snyder or Grill Mayor knew

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01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:26.239
<v Speaker 9>each other, but Snyder was arrested in December for trespassing

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01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:29.880
<v Speaker 9>with a rifle on Grill Maayre's property at count Tech.

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<v Speaker 9>The murderers left the campus reeling the loss of an

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<v Speaker 9>award winning astrophysicist.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's unique about Karl and he is irreplaceable is

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01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 2>the ingenuity. Okay, so they're going to kind of talk

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01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:48.039
<v Speaker 2>more about and reiterate what we just talked about in

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01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>the article. But anyway, all right, so let's get deeper

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01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 2>into it here. So this is actually from a substack

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01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:57.159
<v Speaker 2>from Jessica Reed. Krauss shouts out to her, the second

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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>scientist shot dead on the front porch of a California home.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get into it here.

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01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Asher physicist called Grillmar was shot dead at his home

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01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:08.560
<v Speaker 2>in California desert this week. He was studying comments and

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01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.319
<v Speaker 2>asteroids that pose a threat to Earth. Three months ago,

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01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Nuno Loreo, probably mispronouncing it, a plasma specialist and professor

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01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 2>at MIT suffered the same fate, and we're going to

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01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 2>get to him next, so let's talk about it here.

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<v Speaker 2>So something is up with the Brown shooting. A friend

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01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:26.880
<v Speaker 2>told me weeks ago, flagging it as one of those

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01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.359
<v Speaker 2>high interest stories that slipped beneath the national radar within

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01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.279
<v Speaker 2>without ever fully surfacing. He was talking about the university

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01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:37.640
<v Speaker 2>slaying that left a renowned physicist dead inside his home.

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01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Nuno Felipe Gomez Lorero on't know, was a professor and

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01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:47.560
<v Speaker 2>research director steering serious scientific inquiry. At first glance, it

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01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 2>looked to be an isolated act of senseless violence, possibly targeted,

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01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.600
<v Speaker 2>but it barely registered beyond a passing headline. Eight weeks later,

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<v Speaker 2>we have another headline with eerily similar contours, an early

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01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:03.640
<v Speaker 2>morning call at a private residence or another scientists, this

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<v Speaker 2>time in California's high desert just after six am Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department responded to

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01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>reports of an assault with a deadly weapon in Lanno,

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01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 2>or remote stretch of northern Los Angeles County. On his

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01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 2>front porch, they found sixty seven year old astrophysicist Carl

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01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Grillmer suffering from a gunshot womb. Paramedics attempted life saving measures.

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01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:29.680
<v Speaker 2>He was pronounced dead at the scene. Colleagues were quick

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<v Speaker 2>to stress that Grillmare was no obscure academic. His work

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01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.520
<v Speaker 2>was described as ingenious and foundational. He contributed to the

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01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.840
<v Speaker 2>discovery of water on a distant planet, of finding often

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01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:44.880
<v Speaker 2>cited as a telltale sign that conditions there may be

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01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 2>hospitable for life. Another collaborator said he would be remembered

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01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:52.159
<v Speaker 2>for identifying galactic streams that reshaped how scientists map and

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01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 2>understand the structure of the cosmos. While homicide detectives process

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01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.159
<v Speaker 2>the same, deputies from Palmdale Sheriff Station were sped on

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<v Speaker 2>into a nearby carjacking and arrested twenty nine year old

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01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Freddy Snyder. He was later named a person of interest

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01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.039
<v Speaker 2>in the killing and formally charged with murder, carjacking, and burglary.

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01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:11.399
<v Speaker 2>We already talked about this. He remains in custody on

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01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:14.600
<v Speaker 2>a two million dollar bail. No motive had been released.

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01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Right authorities have said that the men that have not

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01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:22.560
<v Speaker 2>said the men knew each other, nor have they characterized

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01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the shooting as targeted. I find that strange whenever we

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01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.239
<v Speaker 2>know that he was arrested on that property.

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01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:28.880
<v Speaker 4>But whatever.

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01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Still, those tracking it are rightfully skeptical over the coincidence,

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01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the two respected scientists versus aversed implanetary

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01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 2>catastrophes were shot at their homes within weeks of each other,

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01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and media just scraped right over it. So let's get

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01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 2>into this whole Carl situation. This is home, it's in

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01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere, like it's desert. You have to

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01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>go out of your way to find this guy. And

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01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not like this guy was going down his street

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01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and popping every single person at these houses for you

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01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.359
<v Speaker 2>to pull up in this dude's dry and kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're telling me that it doesn't seem targeted. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not ridicuous.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, Asina, it's completely asinine. No, he was completely targeted.

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<v Speaker 2>So eight weeks earlier, nearly three thousand miles away, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to read more about this one here in

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01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a moment soo. Forty seven year old doctor Nunio Lorero,

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01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:24.199
<v Speaker 2>director of MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center and a

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01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.920
<v Speaker 2>leading expert in plasma physics, was killed inside his Brookline,

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01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts home on the morning of December fifteenth. Valente which

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01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:36.479
<v Speaker 2>they didn't bring up that name earlier, but yeah, Valente

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01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>is the killer, parked a gray Nissan CenTra on Babcock

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01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Street and lingered in the neighborhood for hours. Surveillance footage

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01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:46.960
<v Speaker 2>showed him walking along Commonwealth Avenue, stepping into shops, and

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01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:48.199
<v Speaker 2>buying food with cash.

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01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.239
<v Speaker 4>Nothing about his behavior raised alarms.

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01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Lorero spent the day at MIT, overseeing PhD qualifying exams,

1474
01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 2>moving between research meetings, and signing routine paperwork, the steady

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01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:03.199
<v Speaker 2>rhythm of academic life. By early evening, Valente began what

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01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>police later described as pre operational surveillance, circling Larrero's neighborhood repeatedly.

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01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.199
<v Speaker 2>At eight twenty two PM, a neighbor's rain camera captured

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01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:16.439
<v Speaker 2>him wearing a yellow reflective safety vest and carrying a

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01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:20.319
<v Speaker 2>box marked with a barcode, convincing enough that Lrero's daughter

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01:21:20.359 --> 01:21:21.880
<v Speaker 2>assumed he was a delivery driver.

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01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 4>When he rang the bell.

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01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:26.279
<v Speaker 2>According to reports, Lrero and his wife were making dinner

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01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:28.159
<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen while their daughters played cards in the

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01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:31.399
<v Speaker 2>living room. Around eight thirty pm, one of the girls

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01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:33.960
<v Speaker 2>heard the doorbell. Lorero's twelve year old daughter ran to

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01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.600
<v Speaker 2>answer it. She got up to check who it was,

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01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 2>which was when her dad followed behind her and told

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01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:43.760
<v Speaker 2>her to come back in the house. She encountered a

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01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.920
<v Speaker 2>man in the lobby who appeared to be holding a package.

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01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:50.039
<v Speaker 2>He was not wearing gloves. She went back inside and

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01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:52.439
<v Speaker 2>then heard three or four gunshots.

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01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Wow oh no.

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01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>When she ran back to entry foyer, she found her

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01:21:57.560 --> 01:21:59.359
<v Speaker 2>father lying on the ground in a pool of blood.

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01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Fled with his headlights off, disappearing into the night. Only

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01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:06.119
<v Speaker 2>later did investigators link him to a mass shooting days

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01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:09.840
<v Speaker 2>earlier inside a Brown University building where eleven students were

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01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.960
<v Speaker 2>wounded and two were killed. After five days on the run,

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01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he died from a self inflicted gunshot wound inside a

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01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:20.399
<v Speaker 2>storage unit in Salem, New Hampshire. Authorities later identified the

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01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:25.199
<v Speaker 2>substack a suspect as Claudio Manuel Nevez Valente, a Portuguese

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01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a physics graduate who had attended the same university program

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01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>as Lorero in Portugal between ninety five and two thousand,

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01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five in New Year two thousand, Who sent

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01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>him his motive? How long was this planned?

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01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:39.159
<v Speaker 4>We know none of this.

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01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So now let's learn about Nuno Felipe Gomez Lorero. Okay,

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01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:48.119
<v Speaker 2>this is the guy in question, and this is his killer.

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01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:53.079
<v Speaker 2>So apparently they were in the same program. But that's

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01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:57.319
<v Speaker 2>about all we know. It's it's oh, it's a mess.

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01:22:57.479 --> 01:23:00.600
<v Speaker 2>He was a Portuguese plasma physicist. He it was the

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01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Herman Feshback professor. Okay, Herman Freeshback, Professor of physics at

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01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:10.159
<v Speaker 2>the Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT and the director of

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01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:13.319
<v Speaker 2>the MIT Plasma Science Fusion Center from twenty twenty four

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01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:16.640
<v Speaker 2>until his murder in twenty twenty five. Now let's go

1516
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:19.399
<v Speaker 2>a little deeper into this in the whole situation. So,

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01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a world renowned Massachusetts Institute Technology professor and fusion engineer

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01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 2>shot and killed inside his home earlier this week, an

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01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:31.199
<v Speaker 2>attack that rattled one of the country's most elite scientific communities.

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01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>We already talked about his credentials. The man was absolutely

1521
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>a leading figure in his field. Nobody questions him on

1522
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that front. So as of this time, and this is

1523
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.880
<v Speaker 2>as the article was being written here. No suspect has

1524
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.880
<v Speaker 2>been identified and the motive for the killing is still unknown.

1525
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>So this was written December eighteenth, twenty twenty five, so

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01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>this is before they found Valente.

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01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:58.800
<v Speaker 4>He was a professor. We talked about that.

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01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Lorero was rushed to a with a parent gunshot Wins

1529
01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Monday evening and pronounced dead Tuesday morning. According to the

1530
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Norfolk District Attorney's Office in Massachusetts, the homicide investigation was underway.

1531
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.439
<v Speaker 2>The shooting occurred two days after the attack of Brown

1532
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.079
<v Speaker 2>University left two dead and nine injured, come to find out,

1533
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was actually eleven. While investigators in both cases are at

1534
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:24.039
<v Speaker 2>prestigious universities less than fifty miles apart our sharing intelligence,

1535
01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:27.439
<v Speaker 2>the Special Agent in charge of Boston's FBI office, Ted

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01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Docks said at news briefings Tuesday, authorities don't think they're connected.

1537
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.279
<v Speaker 4>So this also ties in right.

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01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:39.119
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any sense considering what he was working on.

1539
01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>So when we're talking about the Brown shooting that seemed

1540
01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:46.479
<v Speaker 2>random and the classroom that Valente shot up, it's like

1541
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:50.439
<v Speaker 2>an economics class Now, at one time that building housed

1542
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:54.319
<v Speaker 2>like physics and the classroom in question. He actually was

1543
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.800
<v Speaker 2>once a student in that very classroom, but at this

1544
01:24:58.039 --> 01:25:01.520
<v Speaker 2>time when the shooting took place, it was an economics

1545
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>class or a statistics or something along these lines. It

1546
01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:10.239
<v Speaker 2>was nothing to do with physics whatsoever, and so it

1547
01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:12.159
<v Speaker 2>seemed like a random act of violence.

1548
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Take a precursor to this situation to make it look

1549
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:16.520
<v Speaker 3>like it's not.

1550
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:20.840
<v Speaker 5>A targeted hit exactly exactly pretty much just a you know,

1551
01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 5>oh hey, look over here kind of a thing, right, And.

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01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.279
<v Speaker 2>So the guy who and we're not going to read

1553
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the rest of this because, like I said, it's written before,

1554
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, before any of these things. Actually no, we

1555
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:36.239
<v Speaker 2>can't read because it talks more about the scientists himself.

1556
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:39.039
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, because he's his what he was working on,

1557
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.279
<v Speaker 5>and ties into the other guy because one of the

1558
01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:46.239
<v Speaker 5>things he's working on is astrophysical phenomenon applied plasma physics

1559
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 5>principles to understandstand magnetic fields in space and solar flares,

1560
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:55.560
<v Speaker 5>which is like super important if you look at what

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01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:56.800
<v Speaker 5>everybody else was working on.

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01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 3>So that's just one part.

1563
01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:01.199
<v Speaker 5>But he also was working on quantum plasma stimulation and

1564
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:06.760
<v Speaker 5>plasma turbulence and magnetic reconnection and plasma and fusion energy.

1565
01:26:07.239 --> 01:26:09.239
<v Speaker 5>But then if you break down what he said, he

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01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 5>pretty much said to completely throw Einstein out and rewrite

1567
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:16.119
<v Speaker 5>it in the way of plasma, and like we could

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01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:17.439
<v Speaker 5>do so much with it.

1569
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of looking.

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01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Into you because I know that his name throughout the

1571
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 5>science community is like he is renowned for his work

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01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.720
<v Speaker 5>and what he was doing and so, but add in

1573
01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:31.039
<v Speaker 5>everybody else that was killed and missing, and how much

1574
01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:36.640
<v Speaker 5>space stuff is connected. Yeah, it's it's clearly all tied.

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01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:38.439
<v Speaker 4>Together, all right, So then let's keep reading here.

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01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So Originally from Portugal, Lorero studied in his home country

1577
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:44.479
<v Speaker 2>and in the United Kingdom and in the United States,

1578
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>where he researched topics including phenomenon behind solar flares. He

1579
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:51.560
<v Speaker 2>also focused on plasma, a super hot form of matters

1580
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>found in stars, and experimental fusion reactors. Fusion is the

1581
01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>process that makes the sunburn and the Railro's work explored

1582
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>how that power could be bottled on Earth and controlled

1583
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>inside those reactors. If fusion ever becomes a real source

1584
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>of cheap, clean electricity, it will rely on the kind

1585
01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of physics he helped explain. So Nuno was not only

1586
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant scientist. He was a brilliant person. Dennis White,

1587
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:18.920
<v Speaker 2>a fellow MIT professor, said in an obituary posted on

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01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:22.439
<v Speaker 2>by the university. He's shone a bright light as a mentor,

1589
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:26.479
<v Speaker 2>a friend, teacher, colleague, and leader, and was universally admired

1590
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>for his articulate, compassionate manner. His loss is immeasurable to

1591
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>our community and the PCFs or psfc NSEE and MIT

1592
01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:38.439
<v Speaker 2>are around the entire fusion and plasma research world.

1593
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1594
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Alan Taylor, a Tought's University professor of biomechanical and molecular

1595
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>nutrition who lives in the area, told Fox News Digital

1596
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>outside Lererro's home on Wednesday that the shooting rocked the

1597
01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>tight knit community, which is also home to several Brown

1598
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:57.239
<v Speaker 2>University students, where another shooting claim two lives of the weekend.

1599
01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned because he was a human being, first and

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01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>secondly because he's a scientist, and I know how much

1601
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we invest in training people so they can make major

1602
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>contributions to our society, and then when they're murdered, it's

1603
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.079
<v Speaker 2>a tremendous compromise to our community and the world at large.

1604
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:17.760
<v Speaker 2>So Lorrero obtained an undergraduate degree from the Instituto Superior

1605
01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Technico in Lisbon, before being getting a PhD in physics

1606
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>at Imperial College, London. He went on to do post

1607
01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:31.279
<v Speaker 2>doctoral work at Princeton University in New Jersey and Ukaea

1608
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Coleman Center for Fusion Energy in the UK, and returned

1609
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:39.159
<v Speaker 2>to research in Lisbon before joining MIT's faculty in twenty sixteen.

1610
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>He became a full professor in twenty twenty one and

1611
01:28:42.359 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was later named the director of the school's Plasma Science

1612
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:48.159
<v Speaker 2>and Fusion Center. So I mean, pretty much start to finish,

1613
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Your boy had a insane career in academia. His research

1614
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:56.520
<v Speaker 2>has earned him half a dozen awards since twenty fifteen,

1615
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>most recently honored with the US Government's Presidential Early Career

1616
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Award for Scientists and Engineers, which he received earlier this year.

1617
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>In twenty nineteen and at twenty nineteen interview, le Rairo

1618
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>linked complicated science to an art form. This is a

1619
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>direct quote from him. When we stimulate theoretically inclined minds

1620
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>by framing plasma physics and fusion challenges as beautiful theoretical

1621
01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>physics problems, we bring into the game incredibly brilliant students,

1622
01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>people who we want to attract to fusion development, he said.

1623
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>In an earlier lecture, he on accepting and Overcoming failure,

1624
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>he urged students to set their goals high and not

1625
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:38.159
<v Speaker 2>be afraid of falling short. If you're not failing all

1626
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the time, you're aiming too low. He said, Wow, I

1627
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>mean sounds like the type professor you would want to

1628
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>have to be honest with you. And so the killing

1629
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:53.199
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And this is

1630
01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the one that you sent me.

1631
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, that's the one I sent you.

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01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 5>And it just breaks down more of his his life

1633
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:03.439
<v Speaker 5>and all of what he was doing and like the

1634
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:09.439
<v Speaker 5>actual like real goes into the fusion vacuum vacuums and stuff,

1635
01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:12.359
<v Speaker 5>and like where the edges of the universe that he

1636
01:30:12.520 --> 01:30:16.720
<v Speaker 5>was working in is crazy. And how it all ties

1637
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:20.600
<v Speaker 5>into these other people is definitely this. All of these

1638
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:24.880
<v Speaker 5>people are connected to space, Like, without a doubt, there's

1639
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:27.319
<v Speaker 5>something to do with space that is happening. The only

1640
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:31.760
<v Speaker 5>one that's odd is the chemical biologist with his biomedical research.

1641
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:35.319
<v Speaker 5>But also it could be in part like playing into that.

1642
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.880
<v Speaker 5>You don't have to read that since we already read

1643
01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:40.680
<v Speaker 5>into it more of his stuff. But he was very

1644
01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:43.359
<v Speaker 5>prominent in his fields and what he was working in,

1645
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:47.800
<v Speaker 5>and he was actually making huge progress forward. But remember,

1646
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:51.640
<v Speaker 5>China is on is fighting for whoever can get the

1647
01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:56.560
<v Speaker 5>fusion situation. So China is, you know, heavily fighting against us,

1648
01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>and this man was working with us, and so he

1649
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:05.079
<v Speaker 5>was actually making strides in and actually getting better at

1650
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:05.960
<v Speaker 5>harnessing it.

1651
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:08.399
<v Speaker 3>So it could be that he was killed by China.

1652
01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 2>It's very possible. Let's see, there's some of the stuff

1653
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>we already read about, but yeah, some of it also, yeah, okay.

1654
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>So on other fronts, Larrero worked in astrophysics, helped reveal

1655
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:26.239
<v Speaker 2>fundamental mechanisms of the universe. He put forward the first

1656
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>theory of turbulence in pair plasmas, which differ from regular

1657
01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.800
<v Speaker 2>plasmas and maybe abundant in space. The work was driven

1658
01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in part by the unprecedented observations of a binary neutron

1659
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:38.159
<v Speaker 2>star Merger.

1660
01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:39.239
<v Speaker 4>In twenty eighteen.

1661
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.479
<v Speaker 2>As an assistant professor and then full professor at MIT,

1662
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>he taught course intro to plasma physics.

1663
01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:50.720
<v Speaker 4>He literally was the dude who taught that, and the.

1664
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Course of a theory of fusion systems, for which he

1665
01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>was twice recognized by the Department of Nuclear Science and

1666
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Engineering Outstanding Professor Award. Wow. So, Lorrero's research earned him

1667
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:07.199
<v Speaker 2>many prominent awards throughout his prolific career, including the National

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01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Science Foundation Career Award and the American Physical Science Thomas H.

1669
01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Styx Award for Outstanding Early career contributions to plasma physics research.

1670
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>He was also an American Physical Associate Society Fellow. Earlier

1671
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>this year, he earned the Presidential Early Career Award for

1672
01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Science and Engineering.

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01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

1674
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.680
<v Speaker 4>So, the dude, he was working in all kinds of levels.

1675
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>We're not just talking about like granted, we're talking about

1676
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like nuclear fission and infusion, and the Chinese are after

1677
01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that as well. Multiple countries are trying to work on that,

1678
01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and he was making some very great strides in that regard.

1679
01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But he was also, like you said, observing space, and

1680
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't there's no indication as of this moment that

1681
01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he was one of somebody connected to aliens or UFOs,

1682
01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of people that believe that

1683
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 2>the UFOs are actor like the orbs that we keep

1684
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing are actually plasm balls. So it's very possible that

1685
01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 2>he might have had some sort of inside knowledge onto

1686
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>that kind of front.

1687
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:15.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean there's the magnetic field that he was

1688
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:18.359
<v Speaker 5>talking about, and then looking into space and like the

1689
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:22.079
<v Speaker 5>fusion vacuum chambers at the edges of the universe and stuff.

1690
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of different and if you see talks

1691
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:28.119
<v Speaker 5>about like the plasma behavior including turbulence and stuff, he's

1692
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.720
<v Speaker 5>when I was reading into it, he was doing a

1693
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:33.199
<v Speaker 5>whole bunch of stuff when it came to space, and

1694
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:37.039
<v Speaker 5>then implementing certain things that we have here with physics

1695
01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:38.760
<v Speaker 5>up there, and then vice versa.

1696
01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:42.119
<v Speaker 3>And then if you think about old boy.

1697
01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:44.760
<v Speaker 5>That got got you know, all the way away from

1698
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:48.720
<v Speaker 5>him was finding looking for signs of life on other planets.

1699
01:33:49.399 --> 01:33:50.880
<v Speaker 3>And then if you look at.

1700
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:54.840
<v Speaker 5>The other research about the recon of space and the

1701
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.279
<v Speaker 5>astrophysicist and the alloy to be able to get to space,

1702
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:02.560
<v Speaker 5>that woman like they're all interlinked with something to do

1703
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:05.359
<v Speaker 5>with trying to get to space, find life, life in space,

1704
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:07.119
<v Speaker 5>harness space energy.

1705
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:10.760
<v Speaker 3>So you know, maybe it was Musk.

1706
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:12.800
<v Speaker 5>You know a lot of people give me shit about

1707
01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.439
<v Speaker 5>how much I hate Musk, but like you know, I'm

1708
01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.840
<v Speaker 5>just saying the one man that is like determined to

1709
01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:20.760
<v Speaker 5>be into space this year that it has like a

1710
01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.520
<v Speaker 5>monopoly on all the science when it comes to space,

1711
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 5>and apparently he just created something else too.

1712
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I was just looking into it.

1713
01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:30.039
<v Speaker 5>I need to read the whole thing, but apparently it's

1714
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:31.119
<v Speaker 5>it's pretty crazy.

1715
01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:34.159
<v Speaker 4>So so the connection might be maybe it was Musk.

1716
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:37.159
<v Speaker 2>These scientists didn't want to work for Musk, and he's

1717
01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:40.479
<v Speaker 2>basically like, well, if I can't have your tech, nobody can.

1718
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.399
<v Speaker 5>Yep, maybe it was him, Knobs, that's just kind of crazy.

1719
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:48.159
<v Speaker 2>But is it though, really, because it doesn't sound that

1720
01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>crazy to me at this.

1721
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Point, Raven, You know, it very well could be Musk,

1722
01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:55.680
<v Speaker 5>But I mean it stands the reason that I feel

1723
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:59.079
<v Speaker 5>like it's more or less maybe our government, foreign government,

1724
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:01.520
<v Speaker 5>or I was sticking with aliens. But there is a

1725
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:04.199
<v Speaker 5>lot to say that, you know, Musk is an alien

1726
01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 5>in and of himself.

1727
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people believe that that must is government. Yeah,

1728
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>let's not forget that fact. He was the head of

1729
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>an entire department, just just not too terribly long ago.

1730
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.800
<v Speaker 5>So like, ah, maybe they made strides and they need

1731
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:20.880
<v Speaker 5>knowledge that he didn't want to get out.

1732
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe that's it.

1733
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they're compromised, you know.

1734
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, So another scientists down and so here's what

1735
01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>we knew about. Uh, there's another article that was pulled up,

1736
01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:35.439
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, I wanted to get to the part. Let's see,

1737
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>does it talk about the murderer it's himself.

1738
01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:42.560
<v Speaker 4>No, this doesn't have it anywhere.

1739
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So basically, long story short, the Valente he committed

1740
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the brown shooting, killed Lorero, drove to a warehouse unit,

1741
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>parked his car, went into the storage unit, and took

1742
01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:02.199
<v Speaker 2>her a recorder and shot four videos where he admitted

1743
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to everything. And if you go back and listen to them,

1744
01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they sound like, I don't want to say psychobabble, but

1745
01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the incoherent ramblings of somebody who is clearly not firing

1746
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>on all cylinders. This wasn't This wasn't some sort of

1747
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>a grand plot, or at least at that moment what

1748
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:29.079
<v Speaker 2>he was saying. Now, is possible that a mind controlled

1749
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:30.279
<v Speaker 2>type of situation happened?

1750
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Maybe? Is it also possible that.

1751
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:34.680
<v Speaker 2>He was put up to do these things specifically to

1752
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:36.079
<v Speaker 2>make it seem like something else?

1753
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Also? Maybe?

1754
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:40.199
<v Speaker 2>But they sounded more along the lines of somebody who

1755
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:44.760
<v Speaker 2>just kind of collectively lost his shit. And when you

1756
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>go back and look at him, he graduated top of

1757
01:36:48.279 --> 01:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>his class in physics, and it would appear that he

1758
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>had the world at his fingertips, and he could have

1759
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>had a very successful career if he would have applied

1760
01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>himself and gotten in with the right group. Instead, as

1761
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:08.079
<v Speaker 2>soon as he graduated, he did everything possible to just

1762
01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>say fuck it.

1763
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:11.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he was sitting.

1764
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:14.359
<v Speaker 2>At home and waiting for the right call to happen,

1765
01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>or somebody to knock on his door and offer him

1766
01:37:17.039 --> 01:37:21.720
<v Speaker 2>a plate full of his opportunity or what. But essentially,

1767
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:24.720
<v Speaker 2>he got the education and did nothing with it and

1768
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>then felt jaded that he wasn't living up to his expectations,

1769
01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:32.119
<v Speaker 2>so decided to shoot up the school that he once

1770
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:36.720
<v Speaker 2>went to and then shoot up somebody that there's no

1771
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>indication that they may have known each other. Yes, it's

1772
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:44.680
<v Speaker 2>not like they were classmates, they weren't colleagues, they weren't

1773
01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>dorm mates or anything like this.

1774
01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:50.600
<v Speaker 4>It's very strange that he would choose Lorero to kill.

1775
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:54.119
<v Speaker 5>But how do we know that he wasn't actually doing

1776
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:57.760
<v Speaker 5>something he so he talked about it in this manifesto.

1777
01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so.

1778
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:07.680
<v Speaker 5>What if he actually was working and what if they

1779
01:38:07.680 --> 01:38:10.760
<v Speaker 5>were actually in communications with each other? At some point

1780
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:15.359
<v Speaker 5>and shared some type of knowledge and could be you know,

1781
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:16.840
<v Speaker 5>maybe I don't know.

1782
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It could be, but as of this moment, and I

1783
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:21.840
<v Speaker 2>know there's more information coming out as quickly.

1784
01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:22.560
<v Speaker 4>This can be printed here.

1785
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But as of this moment, we don't think that Valente

1786
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:30.079
<v Speaker 2>was working in his field by any means. It seems

1787
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>like he probably never did, or if he did, it

1788
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.119
<v Speaker 2>was at some sort of an entry level position. And

1789
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:38.720
<v Speaker 2>then he felt like he was smarter than the people

1790
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>he was working for, so he like, you know, fuck it,

1791
01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm going home because you don't deserve me here. It

1792
01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>was very much autistic ranting, honestly, So I mean maybe

1793
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:52.079
<v Speaker 2>he felt I mean maybe because he just won the

1794
01:38:52.119 --> 01:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>presidential thing, maybe he saw his name and picture and

1795
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>was just like that bastard, I remember you, and maybe

1796
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, like so just.

1797
01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 5>In his psychotic break, decided because he was such a

1798
01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:09.479
<v Speaker 5>renowned scientist, would go after him.

1799
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:11.439
<v Speaker 2>It's Paul, I, I.

1800
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:14.520
<v Speaker 5>Personally don't feel like this is a coincidence. So I'm

1801
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:16.960
<v Speaker 5>not going to say that I agree with that. I

1802
01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:20.960
<v Speaker 5>but I could see how without a conspiracy brain that

1803
01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:21.920
<v Speaker 5>could make sense.

1804
01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.159
<v Speaker 4>You see what I'm saying individually?

1805
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this if this was a one off and there

1806
01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>was no other missing persons and no other murders in

1807
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the scientific community right now, all dealing with space. Okay,

1808
01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>crazier shit has happened. But this is also a bit wild,

1809
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:38.479
<v Speaker 2>but not the wildest thing I've ever heard in my life.

1810
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Coupling this with all the other things you've already talked

1811
01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>about and the stuff we're about to talk about, it's

1812
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:46.119
<v Speaker 2>way way too.

1813
01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Many flags on the play. But anyway, all right, moving on.

1814
01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:54.479
<v Speaker 2>So, now here's what we know about Claudio Nevez Valente,

1815
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the shooter himself, the shooter in the deadly Brown University

1816
01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:01.359
<v Speaker 2>ba ba bab. Claudio Valente a forty eight year old

1817
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Portuguese national. So forty eight. Our boy Lrero was forty one. Okay,

1818
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>so I'm sorry, forty seven. So it is possible that

1819
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:13.399
<v Speaker 2>they were classmates.

1820
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 4>But let's read more here.

1821
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:19.359
<v Speaker 2>So Valente was born in Portugal I can't pronounce He's

1822
01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Nae Torres Novas Santaurum Centaium and was a legal permanent

1823
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>resident of the United States, according to a press release

1824
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>from Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Naranja. Yeah, he arrived

1825
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:33.960
<v Speaker 2>in the United States in August of two thousand as

1826
01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:37.479
<v Speaker 2>an F one student at Brown University and subsequently obtained

1827
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:42.039
<v Speaker 2>US lawful permanent residency in April of twenty seventeen. As

1828
01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:45.199
<v Speaker 2>far as investigators know, Valente did not have any prior

1829
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:48.319
<v Speaker 2>criminal record in the United States, so he studied at

1830
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Brown University. Twenty five years ago. He was enrolled in

1831
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a doctoral program at Brown, but subsequently withdrew from the university.

1832
01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Brown University president Christina Packson said that he was enrolled

1833
01:40:59.880 --> 01:41:02.439
<v Speaker 2>for from fall two thousand to the spring two thousand

1834
01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and one, and he took a leave of absence in

1835
01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>April twenty two thousand and one and formerly left the

1836
01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:10.439
<v Speaker 2>university in July two thousand and three. He had no

1837
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:16.399
<v Speaker 2>active affiliation with Brown. Paxson said that Valente likely spent

1838
01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a great deal of time at Barston Holly Building, where

1839
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.359
<v Speaker 2>the mass shooting took place. Valente was enrolled only in

1840
01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>physics classes when he was at Brown, and Paxson said

1841
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:30.319
<v Speaker 2>that the majority of the physics classes at the university

1842
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:34.199
<v Speaker 2>have always been held within that building. According to the ARRESTAFFI,

1843
01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:38.119
<v Speaker 2>David Valente lived at one two to two Governor Street

1844
01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in Providence when he attended Brown so did he also

1845
01:41:42.079 --> 01:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>kill the MIT professor. The attorney for the District of

1846
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Lee Be fully confirmed December eighteenth that Valente is

1847
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:55.560
<v Speaker 2>also believed to be responsible for the murder of new

1848
01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Neo Lrero, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,

1849
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.159
<v Speaker 2>at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts, and as investigators worked

1850
01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:07.439
<v Speaker 2>to learn more about Valente and understand what prompted his

1851
01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:12.119
<v Speaker 2>violent rampage, former classmates and colleagues in Portugal are describing

1852
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:16.359
<v Speaker 2>him as a talented but egotistical, failed academic who could

1853
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>have been motivated by professional jealousy. Could have been not guarantee,

1854
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:24.720
<v Speaker 2>but could have been. Valente went to college with Lrero.

1855
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Both studied physics as undergraduate programs in Lisbon, Portugal's top

1856
01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:33.560
<v Speaker 2>engineering school. As a matter of fact, Valente dropped out

1857
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>of a PhD program at Brown after three semesters, while

1858
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Lorero went on to International acclaim. I should also mention

1859
01:42:40.399 --> 01:42:44.279
<v Speaker 2>in Portugal, Valente graduated top of his class in that

1860
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.600
<v Speaker 2>undergrad program.

1861
01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:47.479
<v Speaker 4>Just so we're all.

1862
01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:49.560
<v Speaker 5>Clear here, Well, they didn't know each other, they did

1863
01:42:49.640 --> 01:42:50.880
<v Speaker 5>study together, so.

1864
01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's also possible that he was in his fourth

1865
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>year while Lorero was in his third year. Like, it's

1866
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.359
<v Speaker 2>not confirmed that they were necessarily, but let's see, let's continue.

1867
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So Nunio Moraes, who was in the same class, told

1868
01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the Portuguese newspaper that.

1869
01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:09.319
<v Speaker 4>He fell out of touch with Valente.

1870
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>He said that among his former classmates, the most common

1871
01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>theory is that Valente salirero as a symbol of the

1872
01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:17.119
<v Speaker 2>academic and professional success.

1873
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.399
<v Speaker 4>That he was unable to achieve. It's possible.

1874
01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Felipe Mora, who taught Valente as an undergrad, said that

1875
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Valente had a confrontational personality and acted like he knew

1876
01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>everything in class. Again, I'm not saying autistic, but you can.

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01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.399
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like you ever seen Big Bang Theory.

1878
01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:38.800
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't like this show.

1879
01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I did love the show. But anyway, he

1880
01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:45.720
<v Speaker 2>got like Shelton vibes. But anyway, last he had heard,

1881
01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Valente returned to Portugal and worked as an IT specialist

1882
01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:54.720
<v Speaker 2>for Portugal Telegom for a few years. Mora went into

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01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:57.039
<v Speaker 2>more detail in a post on Facebook, explained that he

1884
01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>was a teaching assistant for a math analysis three that

1885
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Valente took in the academic year of ninety six to

1886
01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:06.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety seven. Valente was obviously one of the best students

1887
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>in class, but had a great need to stand out

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01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and show that he was better than the rest.

1889
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:12.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He recalled that Valente had an unpleasant attitude and was

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01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>hostile to classmates who he didn't think were as brilliant

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01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:19.479
<v Speaker 2>as him.

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01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Quote unquote, Morris.

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01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Said that nonetheless, he stayed in touch with Valente for

1895
01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>three years.

1896
01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Valente began his.

1897
01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>PhD at Brown, he maintained the same attitude and got

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01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:34.560
<v Speaker 2>into unnecessary conflict with classmates. Valente seemed to be experiencing

1899
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>culture shock and clearly wasn't enjoying being at Brown. He

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<v Speaker 2>said that he encouraged Valente not to give up and

1901
01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>told him that he would enjoy his PhD more once

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01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:47.199
<v Speaker 2>he started doing research. Instead, Valente dropped out, feeling that

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01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:50.079
<v Speaker 2>the program was a waste of his time and the

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01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:54.720
<v Speaker 2>other students were incompatible or incapable. Excuse me, He said

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01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that he hadn't heard from Valente in years. I never

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01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.399
<v Speaker 2>expected he would be capable of such a thing, So

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01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>how long has he been planning these attacks? A custodian

1908
01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:06.199
<v Speaker 2>at Brown had noticed Valente and found him suspicious before

1909
01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the shooting. The custodian recalled twice seeing a suspicious person

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01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:13.359
<v Speaker 2>with a surgical mask wearing the same clothing shown in

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01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:16.319
<v Speaker 2>released images of the suspect walking with a limp on

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01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>November twenty eighth and December first. According to the Affidavid,

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01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:23.359
<v Speaker 2>the custodian said that the suspicious person had entered the

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01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:27.199
<v Speaker 2>building on the Hope Street side on one occasion and

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01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:30.439
<v Speaker 2>immediately entered a ground level bathroom across from Room one

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01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:33.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty six. Surveillance footage from Brown's cameras showed an individual

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01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>match in that description on December first, according to the Affidavid,

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01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:40.119
<v Speaker 2>a Brown faculty member also reached out to the Rhode

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01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Island State Police and described an encounter before the shooting.

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01:45:43.439 --> 01:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>She said that she was driving east on the morning

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<v Speaker 2>of Thursday, December eleventh, and ended up behind a gray

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01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>sedan with a Florida license plate that was driving unusually

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01:45:52.199 --> 01:45:55.119
<v Speaker 2>slow in the direction of Thayer Street. The faculty member

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01:45:55.199 --> 01:45:58.119
<v Speaker 2>recalled that the sedan was moving so slowly that it

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01:45:58.159 --> 01:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>almost came to a complete stop.

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<v Speaker 4>The observation helped lead a.

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01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:05.439
<v Speaker 2>To a license plate number, which the affidavit says was

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01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:09.439
<v Speaker 2>caught fourteen times on flock license plate reading cameras. The

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01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:14.439
<v Speaker 2>first of it was December first. So anyway, let's see,

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01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>uh so how he hit his motives? Well, we only

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01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:22.479
<v Speaker 2>need to about hit his motives here. So his satchel,

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01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>He had a satchel with him and apparently that helped

1933
01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:26.720
<v Speaker 2>identify him as the shooter.

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01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:29.840
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, so at least like.

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01:46:29.800 --> 01:46:32.279
<v Speaker 3>A pretentious dick. Anyways, look at the way he's standing, like.

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01:46:32.319 --> 01:46:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, sounds yeah, So he thought.

1937
01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe this is a random occurrence.

1938
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, But also if he was somebody who suffled from

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01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.279
<v Speaker 2>some sort of a social disorder and could potentially be

1940
01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:55.039
<v Speaker 2>manipulated and or coerced into doing something that he already

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01:46:55.119 --> 01:47:00.439
<v Speaker 2>had some fury towards the academic community, right, they would.

1942
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Have sent him in any direction.

1943
01:47:02.279 --> 01:47:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Why would he send him in a direction specifically like

1944
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the one that he went on, Like you see what

1945
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. If it was just to shoot up the

1946
01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Brown University, he didn't go to any other classrooms, He

1947
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:18.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't do some sort of mass casualty event it was

1948
01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:23.359
<v Speaker 2>he fired like forty four rounds and only hit thirteen,

1949
01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:27.319
<v Speaker 2>and of those thirteen, two were killed.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't it just doesn't seem I don't know, it

1951
01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:36.119
<v Speaker 5>seems very interesting to me. The timing of things, right,

1952
01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:39.159
<v Speaker 5>especially with the people that are involved, especially with all

1953
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:41.359
<v Speaker 5>the people that have gone missing, especially with what he

1954
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:44.680
<v Speaker 5>was working on and how how he was making such

1955
01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:49.239
<v Speaker 5>strideg especially with the other man being murdered with him

1956
01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:53.600
<v Speaker 5>also being included. Like it just it's too many coincidences. Now,

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01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:56.560
<v Speaker 5>granted they've been they have definitely worked very hard to

1958
01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:00.119
<v Speaker 5>paint this very clear picture that this man had had

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01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.079
<v Speaker 5>an egotistical mind and that he was an asshole to

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01:48:03.119 --> 01:48:05.520
<v Speaker 5>everybody and he felt he was just so much smarter,

1961
01:48:06.039 --> 01:48:08.359
<v Speaker 5>and he dropped out and he hated everyone for it,

1962
01:48:08.439 --> 01:48:11.560
<v Speaker 5>and he worked at this pissing job. And it'say, okay,

1963
01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:19.079
<v Speaker 5>what if they found the perfect Patsy and they geared

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01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:22.319
<v Speaker 5>it towards this and they wanted to get rid of

1965
01:48:22.359 --> 01:48:26.319
<v Speaker 5>this man and they wanted to tie up loose ends

1966
01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:29.920
<v Speaker 5>or whatever it might be, and they utilized somebody that

1967
01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:32.960
<v Speaker 5>had nothing left. I mean it clearly he didn't seem

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01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.119
<v Speaker 5>like he had family, friends, nothing.

1969
01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:37.199
<v Speaker 3>He seems like he completely was alone.

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01:48:37.319 --> 01:48:41.279
<v Speaker 2>So right, and that's kind of what I'm thinking, right,

1971
01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:45.439
<v Speaker 2>especially same with old Snyder, Right, Like, it seems like

1972
01:48:45.479 --> 01:48:48.479
<v Speaker 2>they found a really good patsy, a real good story

1973
01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:51.359
<v Speaker 2>just tied up neatly. Oh, you know this guy they

1974
01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>never met, but he was found on his property a

1975
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:55.159
<v Speaker 2>few months earlier with a rifle.

1976
01:48:55.399 --> 01:48:58.920
<v Speaker 4>He was arrested, but they released him. Don't worry about it.

1977
01:48:58.920 --> 01:49:01.039
<v Speaker 2>He's out in the back out and then went back

1978
01:49:01.079 --> 01:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to finish the job because you know, he's just a yeah.

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01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:08.039
<v Speaker 3>It seems just like really coincidental with everything.

1980
01:49:08.159 --> 01:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And then this guy, oh well, you know, they actually

1981
01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:12.520
<v Speaker 2>were at the same university in the same program at

1982
01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>one point, and then you know, he just just spurned

1983
01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:20.119
<v Speaker 2>because this guy was Portuguese, just like him, and he

1984
01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:22.720
<v Speaker 2>thought that this guy had the success that was owed

1985
01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to him because he was, oh so brilliant. All that

1986
01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:29.319
<v Speaker 2>checks out, and it's like, but does it it can?

1987
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I okay, possibly, but when looked at with all of

1988
01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>the other contexts and all the other missing people and

1989
01:49:37.359 --> 01:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the murders, it's starting to sound way more conspiratorial than

1990
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:44.560
<v Speaker 2>a random act of aggression.

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01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:46.479
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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01:49:46.760 --> 01:49:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, I agree.

1993
01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>So now moving on to the next one, let's talk

1994
01:49:51.720 --> 01:49:55.560
<v Speaker 2>about Melissa Cassius. This on screen is one of the

1995
01:49:55.680 --> 01:50:00.720
<v Speaker 2>last images we have of her, and this one is

1996
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>going to be one of the She still has not

1997
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>been found for the record. So, and this was September

1998
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty five when this article is written. Let's

1999
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.439
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. State police report no breakthroughs in Melissa

2000
01:50:13.479 --> 01:50:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Cassia's case. As a matter of fact, there's actually a

2001
01:50:16.119 --> 01:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>few pictures. So this is her right, outdoorsy chick out

2002
01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:24.279
<v Speaker 2>there antler hunting. That's her with her daughter. This is

2003
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:27.119
<v Speaker 2>her looks like on a hiking trip or something. And

2004
01:50:27.119 --> 01:50:31.560
<v Speaker 2>this is her husband, right, Okay, So let's break this down.

2005
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Two months after Melissa Cassius, a fifty three year old

2006
01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Los Alamos National Labs employee, went missing. Her disappearance has

2007
01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:45.359
<v Speaker 2>left more questions than answers. New Mexico State Police reported

2008
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:48.199
<v Speaker 2>no breakthroughs in the investigation. We have no updates in

2009
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:53.119
<v Speaker 2>this case. Wilson Silver, public information officer with the state

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01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>police told Taos Taos Dow.

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01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:57.600
<v Speaker 4>That's how you spelled dow.

2012
01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it like the dow Daoism, that's t it's d

2013
01:51:05.439 --> 01:51:05.680
<v Speaker 2>is that?

2014
01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:06.279
<v Speaker 4>Are you sure?

2015
01:51:06.279 --> 01:51:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought like Daoism is spelled with the T. I

2016
01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. I don't be knowing.

2017
01:51:10.239 --> 01:51:15.640
<v Speaker 3>It should be das hand Yeah.

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01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, okay, So this is Taos Taos.

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01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:20.920
<v Speaker 4>It might be Taos. I don't know.

2020
01:51:22.640 --> 01:51:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, it's spelled both ways. Oh, it's actually spelled

2021
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>both ways. It is. It is actually spelled both ways.

2022
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:32.199
<v Speaker 5>Interesting because I read it with a D and it

2023
01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:34.880
<v Speaker 5>says both ways are correct.

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01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I just looked into Daoism and it was spelled with

2025
01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:39.399
<v Speaker 2>a T, and I was like, that's weird. But it's like, oh,

2026
01:51:39.399 --> 01:51:41.800
<v Speaker 2>they're Asian, so it doesn't make sense. It's like when

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01:51:42.319 --> 01:51:45.079
<v Speaker 2>N g y u e n and somehow that's when, like,

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01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:46.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, it doesn't have to make sense.

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01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:46.840
<v Speaker 4>It's Asian.

2030
01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:49.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because in school it was spelled with a D.

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01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:50.800
<v Speaker 3>So okay.

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01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So we have no updates in this case, the

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01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>state police told Taos News in July. Investigators are looking

2034
01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:00.560
<v Speaker 2>into every angle of the investigation, neither ruling out foul

2035
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:04.560
<v Speaker 2>play nor possibly or possibility that she left on her

2036
01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>own accord. So Melissa was last seen by her family

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01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:12.520
<v Speaker 2>on June twenty sixth. That morning, at about six fifteen am,

2038
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Melissa drove her husband to Los Alamos National Laboratory where

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01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:20.039
<v Speaker 2>they work. Okay, both of them worked at the same laboratory,

2040
01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:21.960
<v Speaker 2>which we're gonna get to that laboratory in a moment

2041
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:25.359
<v Speaker 2>she told him that she need to finish work elsewhere

2042
01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:29.640
<v Speaker 2>on site and left. At about seven forty five am,

2043
01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Melissa's daughter Sierra, heard Melissa enter their home. Melissa told

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01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Sierra she had forgot her her serio wow, can't speak,

2045
01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:41.000
<v Speaker 2>She had forgot her security clearance badge and would work

2046
01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>from home. At about twelve to fifty pm, Melissa dropped

2047
01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:48.680
<v Speaker 2>off a subway sandwich at Sierra's workplace. It was the

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01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>last time Sierra saw her. She says, she forgot her

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01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:53.880
<v Speaker 2>badge and my dad had just forgotten his badge of

2050
01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the day before, which, for the record, anybody who's ever

2051
01:52:56.159 --> 01:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>worked on job site where you have to bring a

2052
01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:58.840
<v Speaker 2>badge t easy.

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01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:00.600
<v Speaker 4>It happens. Personally.

2054
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I used to keep mine in my car to where

2055
01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I would never forget it. But it's a thing. It happens.

2056
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:09.000
<v Speaker 2>You forget your badge, and sometimes you got to go

2057
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:10.760
<v Speaker 2>back home and you're late, or if you got a

2058
01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:12.479
<v Speaker 2>job where you could work from home that day, you

2059
01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:13.039
<v Speaker 2>just do that.

2060
01:53:13.199 --> 01:53:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Whatever. Whatever.

2061
01:53:15.560 --> 01:53:17.560
<v Speaker 2>She just kind of laughed, and I didn't question it.

2062
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know that's how they get into work. Okay,

2063
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.439
<v Speaker 2>that's a bit ridiculous, but whatever. Surveillance footage from her

2064
01:53:23.439 --> 01:53:28.720
<v Speaker 2>residence in Talpa shows Melissa's last known whereabouts walking eastbound

2065
01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:32.880
<v Speaker 2>on New Mexico five eighteen, roughly an hour after she

2066
01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>dropped off lunch to her daughter. She wore a backpack,

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01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a turquoise shirt, jeans, and tennis shoes, and a maroon

2068
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>hoodie tied around her waist. So she had a car

2069
01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:46.239
<v Speaker 2>she was driving the day she dropped her husband off

2070
01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:47.760
<v Speaker 2>at work and.

2071
01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Just took off, tacking down the highway.

2072
01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:54.119
<v Speaker 3>She's being tagged and tracked.

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01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm glad you already said that, because wait till

2074
01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I tell you about the cell phone. But anyway, a

2075
01:53:58.399 --> 01:54:01.359
<v Speaker 2>family friend saw she saw the blue Dodge truck following

2076
01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Melissa at around the same time. Jasmine McMillan, Melissa's niece,

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01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:08.720
<v Speaker 2>told Taos News in July that the state police located

2078
01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:13.520
<v Speaker 2>a matching vehicle and concluded Melissa didn't climb inside. Sierra

2079
01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:15.600
<v Speaker 2>returned home from work to find the front door locked

2080
01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>and her mother's vehicle parked outside. She found her mother's

2081
01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.840
<v Speaker 2>keys and work cell phone on the kitchen table. Inside

2082
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Melissa's office was her wallet, personal cell phone, purse, some

2083
01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:29.359
<v Speaker 2>dollar bills, and a paycheck. Sierra gave her to deposit

2084
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:34.119
<v Speaker 2>at the bank Melissa's phone. Both of them were reset

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01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to factory settings.

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01:54:37.039 --> 01:54:37.760
<v Speaker 4>They were white.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even read it. I didn't even read it.

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01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:43.279
<v Speaker 5>But I'm just I've just, you know, had a strong,

2089
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:45.640
<v Speaker 5>strange feeling that she was being tracked.

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01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:48.119
<v Speaker 2>So not only does she do this to her work phone,

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01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:50.359
<v Speaker 2>she did it to her home phone before just heading

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01:54:50.439 --> 01:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>off on foot down a highway in the middle of

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01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:54.479
<v Speaker 2>New Mexico.

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01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:56.359
<v Speaker 3>So another one that went on foot.

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01:54:56.640 --> 01:54:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh huh.

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01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>So, while Sierra and her father believed Melissa leftvoluntarily due

2097
01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>to personal and financial struggles, Melissa's parents, Jose and Joanne

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01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Mondragon again with these names Mandragon, Mondragon. I'm gonna just say,

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01:55:11.720 --> 01:55:14.720
<v Speaker 2>mon dragon, this sounds cooler. I'm sure it's a month

2100
01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:16.800
<v Speaker 2>that I go on. I'm sure, but it's fucking man

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01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:21.880
<v Speaker 2>dragon anyway. And her sister Trudy Nahara disagree. I don't

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01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>want to go anywhere, Joanne said in July. I tell

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01:55:25.199 --> 01:55:27.479
<v Speaker 2>them because what if she comes and I'm not here,

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01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:29.920
<v Speaker 2>or if she calls on the landline and I'm not here.

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01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:33.720
<v Speaker 2>We can't be gone in case she comes, because maybe

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01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:36.800
<v Speaker 2>this is where she'd come home. Sierra said, there's nothing

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01:55:36.960 --> 01:55:40.319
<v Speaker 2>that can't be fixed. We're both waiting here with big,

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01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:42.560
<v Speaker 2>wide open arms. We promise we'll figure things out and

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01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>this too shall pass. It sounds like she was very

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01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:48.960
<v Speaker 2>well loved by multiple members of her family, but once

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01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.840
<v Speaker 2>again for her to take off, for her to purposely

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01:55:52.840 --> 01:56:00.640
<v Speaker 2>change all of her phones to factory settings, leave everything, wallet, phones, car, everything,

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01:56:01.199 --> 01:56:03.359
<v Speaker 2>grab a backpack full of god knows what, and just

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01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.520
<v Speaker 2>take off down the highway on this is it's a

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01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>little wild.

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01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:09.319
<v Speaker 5>So just for those of you that are wondering what

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01:56:09.479 --> 01:56:11.760
<v Speaker 5>she did, she was the nuclear weapons person with the

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01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:15.399
<v Speaker 5>National Security of Science. So this is this is this lady.

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01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:17.479
<v Speaker 5>But I didn't really want to. I wanted to touch

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01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:19.239
<v Speaker 5>on another missing scientist really quick.

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01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, were actually happened?

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01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:21.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

2123
01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:25.319
<v Speaker 5>No, this pertains to her because they both worked at

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01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:31.079
<v Speaker 5>the same laboratory. He went missing May fourth, twenty twenty five,

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01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:35.600
<v Speaker 5>Anthony Chavez, and he disappeared while out walking in New Mexico.

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01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:39.880
<v Speaker 5>And Chaved had been associated with one of the United

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01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:44.119
<v Speaker 5>States' most sensitive research environments, were often working in intersector

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01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:48.600
<v Speaker 5>intersects with nuclear science, national security, and classified technologies. With

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01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:51.359
<v Speaker 5>no phone or wallet on him and no confirmed sieting

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01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:54.520
<v Speaker 5>since his case has quietly remained unresolved.

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01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:57.359
<v Speaker 4>This was in April of last year.

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01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.399
<v Speaker 3>This was in May, fourth of la last year.

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01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:03.119
<v Speaker 5>So she went missing when she went missing in June

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01:57:03.840 --> 01:57:07.560
<v Speaker 5>of last year. He went missing in May, and before him,

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01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.840
<v Speaker 5>or actually in July, after both of them, a National

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01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Science a NASA science man was found dead in Los Angeles,

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01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:21.239
<v Speaker 5>and he also worked for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory that

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01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:30.479
<v Speaker 5>worked on advanced space intment into instrumentation and planetary detection systems,

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01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:31.079
<v Speaker 5>which was.

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01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:36.479
<v Speaker 3>This was what was his name? That was Frank. His

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01:57:36.640 --> 01:57:41.000
<v Speaker 3>name is Frank Midwald. Frank Midwald.

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01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:44.359
<v Speaker 5>So this is another scientist actually, and they all worked

2143
01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:46.920
<v Speaker 5>in the same fields. So this is two more bodies

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01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.840
<v Speaker 5>that I found that have been confirmed that that are

2145
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:52.279
<v Speaker 5>actually along with this. So we have one that went

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01:57:52.359 --> 01:57:55.600
<v Speaker 5>missing before her that worked at the exact same place

2147
01:57:55.720 --> 01:57:58.760
<v Speaker 5>that she did, and one that went missing after the

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01:57:58.840 --> 01:58:02.279
<v Speaker 5>two of the women and was killed and that worked

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01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:04.560
<v Speaker 5>on the same stuff that actually ties into the other

2150
01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:04.880
<v Speaker 5>ones that.

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01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Have been murdered.

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01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:08.760
<v Speaker 4>So Jesus Christ, I.

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01:58:08.840 --> 01:58:10.439
<v Speaker 5>Just wanted to I know that you were We're on

2154
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:12.600
<v Speaker 5>this person, but a super maouertains. So I was like,

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01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:13.359
<v Speaker 5>I gotta tell.

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01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>You that absolutely ties in Holy shit. Yeah, So as

2157
01:58:17.720 --> 01:58:19.880
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about this and we're talking about the workplace.

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01:58:20.319 --> 01:58:24.479
<v Speaker 2>The Lost Alamos National Laboratory, or LA and L for short,

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01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:28.119
<v Speaker 2>is one of sixteen research and development laboratories in the

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01:58:28.239 --> 01:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>United States Department of Energy, located a short distance northwest

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01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:36.439
<v Speaker 2>of Santa Fe, New Mexico, in the Southwest. Best known

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01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:40.439
<v Speaker 2>for its central role in helping develop the first atomic bomb.

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01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:44.439
<v Speaker 2>LANL is one of the world's largest and most advanced

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01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>scientific institutions. So as all of this, the conspiracies around

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01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:56.279
<v Speaker 2>this laboratory in and of itself, okay, it was established

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01:58:56.279 --> 01:58:59.560
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty three as Project Why, a top secret

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01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:03.279
<v Speaker 2>site for designing nuclear weapons under the Manhattan Project during

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two.

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01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:06.199
<v Speaker 4>It's it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brought together some of the world's most famous scientists,

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01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:11.439
<v Speaker 2>among them numerous Nobel Prize winners.

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01:59:12.159 --> 01:59:15.119
<v Speaker 4>It's it's a whole thing. We could literally do an.

2173
01:59:15.159 --> 01:59:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Entire episode just on this laboratory itself, so to say

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01:59:19.279 --> 01:59:23.039
<v Speaker 2>should we might as well right to say that two

2175
01:59:23.199 --> 01:59:26.359
<v Speaker 2>of their scientists went missing, like just left all their shit,

2176
01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:28.640
<v Speaker 2>wiped their phones, and took off down the road on

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01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.439
<v Speaker 2>foot within sixty days of each other.

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01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:32.520
<v Speaker 3>MM hmm.

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01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:35.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he just went went for a walk, left his wallet,

2180
01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:38.880
<v Speaker 5>left his phone, no sightings, and just disappeared.

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01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:44.880
<v Speaker 5>And that other guy, Frank, he was working on identifying

2183
01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:50.560
<v Speaker 5>signs of life on worlds like Europa and in Celadus Inenciladas.

2184
01:59:51.319 --> 01:59:53.159
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, I don't that, but I don't know it.

2185
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:56.880
<v Speaker 3>It's eating ce l a d Us.

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01:59:57.800 --> 01:59:58.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I looked it up.

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01:59:58.880 --> 02:00:01.319
<v Speaker 3>But it's the sixth place it it's a sixth son

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02:00:01.840 --> 02:00:02.399
<v Speaker 3>of Saturn.

2189
02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:06.319
<v Speaker 2>So all, yeah, so he was looking into sixth moon

2190
02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>of Saturn or sixth Sun.

2191
02:00:08.279 --> 02:00:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh it might have been. It might've been Moon.

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02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:13.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm not I forgot, honestly, I was reading a whole

2193
02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:16.319
<v Speaker 5>bunch of different stuff. But yeah, so it he was

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02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:21.479
<v Speaker 5>looking at in space life as well. So I just

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02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:23.960
<v Speaker 5>found that to be rather interesting that they both went

2196
02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:28.439
<v Speaker 5>missing from the same place, and you know, but no

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02:00:28.520 --> 02:00:30.319
<v Speaker 5>one's talking about either one of those guys.

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02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:31.399
<v Speaker 3>I actually had to go.

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02:00:32.079 --> 02:00:36.239
<v Speaker 5>I went to page like sixteen on Google to find

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02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:39.520
<v Speaker 5>that they were actually connected and they actually went missing.

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02:00:41.560 --> 02:00:42.920
<v Speaker 4>So just so we're all clear here.

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02:00:43.760 --> 02:00:48.760
<v Speaker 2>This laboratory, in particular, as of May one, twenty twenty five,

2203
02:00:48.920 --> 02:00:52.960
<v Speaker 2>has an annual budget of four point nine billion dollars

2204
02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:58.159
<v Speaker 2>four point nine big boy billions per year for this

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02:00:58.560 --> 02:01:03.000
<v Speaker 2>one laboratory, and they are, like I said, one of sixteen.

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02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:04.720
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to do a whole episode on this.

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02:01:04.960 --> 02:01:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean entered the development for the Department

2208
02:01:07.880 --> 02:01:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of Energy like that. That's huge, that's that's absolute national

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02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.680
<v Speaker 2>security level things. And for them to just take the

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02:01:14.720 --> 02:01:17.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck off, I'm sorry once again, a woman losing her

2211
02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:21.359
<v Speaker 2>shit and saying, fucking I'm leaving this. Okay, this happens

2212
02:01:21.479 --> 02:01:25.239
<v Speaker 2>a guy doing the same Okay, fine, not this close together.

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02:01:25.800 --> 02:01:31.880
<v Speaker 5>Not a nuclear but a nuclear scientist. She's nuclear weapons. Yeah, person,

2214
02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:34.359
<v Speaker 5>They both worked in the national security and they both

2215
02:01:34.399 --> 02:01:38.960
<v Speaker 5>worked on classified technologies. Both of them disappeared the exact

2216
02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:42.720
<v Speaker 5>same way, right, yet none of the neither one have

2217
02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.479
<v Speaker 5>been found neither. Like that doesn't make that doesn't make

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02:01:45.560 --> 02:01:49.279
<v Speaker 5>any sense. And then these other people are being killed. Yeah,

2219
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:54.000
<v Speaker 5>so it's like, wait, what so two jet propulsion people,

2220
02:01:54.479 --> 02:01:57.159
<v Speaker 5>one missing or wait was does she die?

2221
02:01:57.560 --> 02:01:57.600
<v Speaker 6>No?

2222
02:01:57.800 --> 02:02:01.520
<v Speaker 5>She went missing, one missing, and one killed, all within

2223
02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:04.000
<v Speaker 5>a matter of three months. All four of these people

2224
02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:07.399
<v Speaker 5>and the men aren't being talked about, yep, which I've

2225
02:02:07.439 --> 02:02:11.039
<v Speaker 5>had to be really interesting that they're just completely silent

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02:02:11.119 --> 02:02:11.439
<v Speaker 5>about this.

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02:02:12.359 --> 02:02:14.680
<v Speaker 4>The media has so many other things to talk about.

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02:02:15.880 --> 02:02:18.319
<v Speaker 3>And also, you're correct, there are moons nonsense.

2229
02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:21.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm just making sure I was hold on it calling it.

2230
02:02:21.800 --> 02:02:23.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm sick right now. I'm gonna be honest with you,

2231
02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:26.800
<v Speaker 5>and my brain is like I'm here, all right.

2232
02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:31.079
<v Speaker 2>So now let's go to this other People magazine article

2233
02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:33.359
<v Speaker 2>talking about a body that was found in a lake

2234
02:02:33.439 --> 02:02:37.479
<v Speaker 2>believed to belong to a scientist who disappeared three months ago. Now,

2235
02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:40.560
<v Speaker 2>three months ago as of March eighteenth of this year,

2236
02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:42.680
<v Speaker 2>so it's you know, probably like four months ago as

2237
02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:46.359
<v Speaker 2>of now. But let's get into it here. A body

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02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:49.359
<v Speaker 2>pull from Massachusetts lake is believed to belong to a

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02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:52.399
<v Speaker 2>scientist who has been missing four months. The body was

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<v Speaker 2>recovered from Lake Quantapowt in Wakefield on the afternoon of Tuesday,

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02:02:56.560 --> 02:02:59.640
<v Speaker 2>March seventeenth, according to a news release from the Middlesex

2242
02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:04.399
<v Speaker 2>count District Attorney Maryon T. Ryan. Once again, Middlesex, the

2243
02:03:04.680 --> 02:03:07.000
<v Speaker 2>names that these people just come up with is cracking

2244
02:03:07.039 --> 02:03:07.640
<v Speaker 2>me up, anyway.

2245
02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:09.720
<v Speaker 4>A detective from the Wakefield Police.

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02:03:09.439 --> 02:03:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Department was searching the area around the lake, which had

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02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:16.039
<v Speaker 2>previously frozen over. Around twelve thirty pm, local time when

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02:03:16.079 --> 02:03:19.359
<v Speaker 2>they located what appeared to be a body in the water.

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02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Preliminary information, including the victim's clothing, suggests the body was

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02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:26.039
<v Speaker 2>that of a forty five year old Jason Thomas.

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02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.439
<v Speaker 4>So this is the guy in question. Jason Thomas.

2252
02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Thomas, a scientist at Novarties, was reported missing on December thirteenth,

2253
02:03:36.960 --> 02:03:39.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, after he left his home the night before.

2254
02:03:40.079 --> 02:03:42.600
<v Speaker 2>He has not been seen since. His parents both died

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02:03:42.640 --> 02:03:48.760
<v Speaker 2>before he vanished. According to NBC affiliate Kristen Bartoli, Thomas's

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02:03:48.840 --> 02:03:51.640
<v Speaker 2>wife of a decade, told Dateline that her husband had

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02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:55.000
<v Speaker 2>been struggling with his parents' deaths prior to his disappearance.

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02:03:55.399 --> 02:03:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Thomas's parents reportedly died within an hour of each other.

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02:03:58.840 --> 02:04:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, he had never lost somebody so close before,

2260
02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and then to lose both of them.

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02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:05.119
<v Speaker 3>It was harpreadad.

2262
02:04:06.239 --> 02:04:09.600
<v Speaker 2>So this is an image from him or of him

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02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the night he disappeared. I guess it's from like a

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02:04:11.960 --> 02:04:13.239
<v Speaker 2>ring camera footage or something.

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02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:16.920
<v Speaker 4>Bartoli said. Everything seemed normal tonight.

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02:04:17.039 --> 02:04:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Thomas disappeared as they took care of their dogs after

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02:04:19.600 --> 02:04:21.640
<v Speaker 2>one of their first social outings since the death of

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02:04:21.680 --> 02:04:25.159
<v Speaker 2>his parents. After Thomas left the home, Bartoli allegedly spotted

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02:04:25.239 --> 02:04:28.279
<v Speaker 2>him outside after she heard their mailbox close. She then

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02:04:28.319 --> 02:04:30.600
<v Speaker 2>went to sleep, but realized her husband had not returned.

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02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:33.840
<v Speaker 2>When she woke up a short time later, she learned

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02:04:33.840 --> 02:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>that Thomas had left his phone and wallet on their

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02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>bathroom counter and found his Apple Watch in the mailbox,

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02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:41.239
<v Speaker 2>so that's why he stopped the mailbox was to leave

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02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the Apple watch. Thomas was later caught on camera while

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02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:48.640
<v Speaker 2>walking near a set of train tracks on North Avenue

2277
02:04:48.680 --> 02:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>by Chestnut Street. Wakefield police were expected to search the

2278
02:04:52.199 --> 02:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>lake where Thomas would occasionally walk his dog. This spring

2279
02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:59.760
<v Speaker 2>dayline reported because it was frozen over. The WPD previously

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02:04:59.800 --> 02:05:01.920
<v Speaker 2>said Thomas was the last scene wearing a puffer style

2281
02:05:02.039 --> 02:05:06.800
<v Speaker 2>jacket that is white and has white and either gray

2282
02:05:06.960 --> 02:05:09.680
<v Speaker 2>or black coloring, as well as black pants, black sneakers,

2283
02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:12.720
<v Speaker 2>and white laces, black winter hat and gloves. The District

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02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Attorney to announced Tuesday that the police had conducted an

2285
02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:20.159
<v Speaker 2>extensive search of the area, utilizing resources from the Northeastern

2286
02:05:20.199 --> 02:05:24.439
<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council K nine units and drones. The

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02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Office of the Chief Medical Examiner will determine the identity

2288
02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:29.600
<v Speaker 2>of the victim and their cause and manner of death.

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02:05:29.600 --> 02:05:32.079
<v Speaker 2>According to the district, no foul play is suspected in

2290
02:05:32.159 --> 02:05:33.560
<v Speaker 2>connection with the victim's death.

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02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.279
<v Speaker 4>She added, Okay, so.

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02:05:37.840 --> 02:05:41.119
<v Speaker 3>Still it just seems.

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02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:46.720
<v Speaker 5>It just seems very interesting how they all are occurring

2294
02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:50.119
<v Speaker 5>back to back to back to back, and what they're

2295
02:05:50.159 --> 02:05:52.359
<v Speaker 5>working in, and how they all kind of seem like

2296
02:05:52.399 --> 02:05:55.000
<v Speaker 5>they're connected in what they're working on.

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02:05:55.479 --> 02:05:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, I mean, I just I don't know.

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02:05:59.199 --> 02:06:03.960
<v Speaker 5>I think the tragedy tragedy obviously is something, but it's

2299
02:06:04.760 --> 02:06:07.479
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, So I don't actually know what I

2300
02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:08.359
<v Speaker 5>think about this whole thing.

2301
02:06:08.800 --> 02:06:11.920
<v Speaker 2>So now let's hear from the congressman who has raised

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02:06:11.960 --> 02:06:15.439
<v Speaker 2>the alarm over the scientists vanishing because he believes there

2303
02:06:15.520 --> 02:06:16.760
<v Speaker 2>is way more of a connection here.

2304
02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:20.199
<v Speaker 4>And I gotta tell you, I agree.

2305
02:06:20.960 --> 02:06:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Missing UFO scientists prompt warning from Burchett or burkehett I

2306
02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:29.720
<v Speaker 2>think it's Burchkett, a congressman raised alarm over scientists vanishing

2307
02:06:29.800 --> 02:06:33.960
<v Speaker 2>under mysterious circumstances tied to UFO research. Following the deaths

2308
02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and unexplained disappearances of several scientists linked to UFO research,

2309
02:06:38.119 --> 02:06:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett has sounded the alarm about what

2310
02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:42.720
<v Speaker 2>he calls a.

2311
02:06:42.800 --> 02:06:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Troubling and dark pattern.

2312
02:06:45.319 --> 02:06:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Burchett pointed specifically to the case of the retired Air

2313
02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Force Major General William McCaslin and his former colleague Monica Reza,

2314
02:06:53.239 --> 02:06:57.800
<v Speaker 2>both of whom have vanished under unclear circumstances. We already

2315
02:06:57.800 --> 02:07:01.560
<v Speaker 2>talked about them. Mcaslin has not been seen. There's been

2316
02:07:01.640 --> 02:07:03.840
<v Speaker 2>tons of search and rescue for him. Nothing been found.

2317
02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:08.039
<v Speaker 2>His wife has attempted to push back against what she

2318
02:07:08.159 --> 02:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>described as misinformation connecting her husband's disappearance to UFOs. Still,

2319
02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.840
<v Speaker 2>authorities say there have been no confirmed sightings or evidence

2320
02:07:15.880 --> 02:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>indicating where he might have gone. Reza, we already talked about.

2321
02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:22.000
<v Speaker 2>This was lasting nine months ago while hiking with a friend.

2322
02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:25.560
<v Speaker 2>An aerospace engineer reportedly worked under mcaslon on a US

2323
02:07:25.600 --> 02:07:30.319
<v Speaker 2>government project focused on developing specialized metal for rockets. He

2324
02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:33.479
<v Speaker 2>says something dark is going on. Burchett has been very

2325
02:07:33.600 --> 02:07:36.439
<v Speaker 2>vocal about his concerns. Something dark is going on. I

2326
02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:39.840
<v Speaker 2>know these scientists and research they have testified. We've got

2327
02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to get to the bottom of it, he said in

2328
02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:44.520
<v Speaker 2>a recent interview. It's just too much. Too much is

2329
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:46.319
<v Speaker 2>going on right now, and by the way, I am

2330
02:07:46.399 --> 02:07:50.399
<v Speaker 2>not suicidal. He added, there have been several others throughout

2331
02:07:50.439 --> 02:07:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the country that have disappeared under suspicious circumstances, and I

2332
02:07:54.079 --> 02:07:56.479
<v Speaker 2>think we ought to be paying attention to it. The

2333
02:07:56.640 --> 02:07:59.680
<v Speaker 2>numbers seem very high in these certain areas of research.

2334
02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I think we better pay attention. I don't think we

2335
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:05.399
<v Speaker 2>should trust our government. Coming from a congressman who is

2336
02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:08.399
<v Speaker 2>a part of the government, I agree with you, Congressman.

2337
02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I fun I agree with you, Tennessee congressman who's blowing

2338
02:08:12.119 --> 02:08:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the whistle on some shit. Absolutely. Now a history of

2339
02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:21.279
<v Speaker 2>controversial UFO claims. Now they're going to try to discredit.

2340
02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:22.399
<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

2341
02:08:23.319 --> 02:08:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Burchett, who sits on the House Oversight Committee investigating UFO reports,

2342
02:08:27.199 --> 02:08:30.119
<v Speaker 2>has made a number of bowld claims about the topic. Recently,

2343
02:08:30.199 --> 02:08:33.079
<v Speaker 2>he accused NASO with holding information, saying the agency is

2344
02:08:33.239 --> 02:08:36.479
<v Speaker 2>lying about his knowledge of UFOs and concealing classified files.

2345
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:40.239
<v Speaker 2>When asked why more whistleblowers have not come forward, he

2346
02:08:40.399 --> 02:08:43.880
<v Speaker 2>suggested fear may be a factor. They're afraid someone will

2347
02:08:43.960 --> 02:08:49.119
<v Speaker 2>disappear them. He said, once again, I know that whenever

2348
02:08:49.239 --> 02:08:51.439
<v Speaker 2>he said that, people might have looked at him like

2349
02:08:51.479 --> 02:08:54.479
<v Speaker 2>he was a whack job. Until we start having scientists

2350
02:08:55.079 --> 02:08:57.720
<v Speaker 2>go missing, and then it's like, Wow, maybe.

2351
02:08:57.520 --> 02:09:00.279
<v Speaker 4>The congressman is a little more red in than the

2352
02:09:00.319 --> 02:09:05.560
<v Speaker 4>rest of them. I don't know anyway. I think being.

2353
02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Murdered is what they're afraid of, he asked. I think

2354
02:09:08.159 --> 02:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>some of them are truly, truly are because of things

2355
02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:15.439
<v Speaker 2>they've seen. In past statements, Burchett has also accused the

2356
02:09:15.520 --> 02:09:19.279
<v Speaker 2>government of misleading the public about extraterrestrial activity. In twenty

2357
02:09:19.359 --> 02:09:22.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, he claimed officials were hiding the truth about

2358
02:09:22.159 --> 02:09:24.840
<v Speaker 2>aliens and UFOs, and he has alleged that the US

2359
02:09:25.000 --> 02:09:30.239
<v Speaker 2>is reverse engineering alien technology capable of catastrophic destruction. That's

2360
02:09:30.279 --> 02:09:32.039
<v Speaker 2>a seated congressman that's saying this, by the.

2361
02:09:32.039 --> 02:09:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Way, oh my god, right right, like okay, okay, base sure.

2362
02:09:40.279 --> 02:09:43.319
<v Speaker 2>A little bit more recently, in twenty twenty five, he

2363
02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:46.640
<v Speaker 2>asserted that the government is aware of underwater alien bases,

2364
02:09:47.119 --> 02:09:51.239
<v Speaker 2>claiming that entities exist at several deep sea locations around

2365
02:09:51.319 --> 02:09:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the world.

2366
02:09:52.359 --> 02:09:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Yo, this boy is over here just dropping bomb.

2367
02:09:55.159 --> 02:09:57.840
<v Speaker 3>He's just telling everybody. Yeah, he's gonna get got, he's

2368
02:09:57.880 --> 02:09:58.319
<v Speaker 3>gonna die.

2369
02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:01.079
<v Speaker 2>He don't give a fuck, and now he does not.

2370
02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, I gotta put respect where it's due.

2371
02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Old Republican congressman from Tennessee over here. Get that man

2372
02:10:10.079 --> 02:10:14.479
<v Speaker 2>a raise, Somebody give that man a check. But anyway, anyway,

2373
02:10:15.279 --> 02:10:20.000
<v Speaker 2>let's get into it now. So this has a precedence ravenly.

2374
02:10:20.920 --> 02:10:24.600
<v Speaker 2>It really does, because in the late eighties or the

2375
02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:30.960
<v Speaker 2>eighties to nineteen ninety the GEC Marconi Scientist deaths conspiracy theory.

2376
02:10:31.800 --> 02:10:34.000
<v Speaker 4>If you've never heard of it, gotta be honest with you,

2377
02:10:34.560 --> 02:10:35.640
<v Speaker 4>I had kind.

2378
02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Of heard rumorings of it, little murmurs throughout the years

2379
02:10:38.640 --> 02:10:42.399
<v Speaker 2>of me doing some conspiratorial deep dives. If you want

2380
02:10:42.439 --> 02:10:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to do a Wikipedia search on it, it's here. But

2381
02:10:45.079 --> 02:10:46.960
<v Speaker 2>there's actually a whole book we're going to talk about

2382
02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:51.479
<v Speaker 2>here in a second. The GEC Marconi Scientist deaths theory

2383
02:10:52.399 --> 02:10:55.359
<v Speaker 2>looks at when between nineteen eighty two and nineteen ninety

2384
02:10:55.760 --> 02:11:00.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty five British based GEC Marconi scientists and engine who

2385
02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:04.279
<v Speaker 2>worked on the stingray torpedo project in the United States

2386
02:11:04.479 --> 02:11:10.479
<v Speaker 2>is just strategic defense initiative related projects died under mysterious circumstances.

2387
02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:14.479
<v Speaker 2>So let me paint a picture for you. Reagan's in office, right,

2388
02:11:15.119 --> 02:11:19.880
<v Speaker 2>old Ray Gunn himself and the Gipper, which was really

2389
02:11:20.039 --> 02:11:22.800
<v Speaker 2>he was a d tier actor. Everybody acts like he

2390
02:11:22.880 --> 02:11:23.600
<v Speaker 2>was a movie star.

2391
02:11:23.720 --> 02:11:27.800
<v Speaker 4>He was. He was like not even the lead role,

2392
02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:29.439
<v Speaker 4>but whatever, okay.

2393
02:11:29.640 --> 02:11:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Cool. He goes and becomes president and he is all

2394
02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:36.800
<v Speaker 2>about overfunding the military. He's all about Reagan nomics. He's

2395
02:11:36.920 --> 02:11:39.800
<v Speaker 2>he's just throwing money at problems. Reminds me of another

2396
02:11:39.920 --> 02:11:42.399
<v Speaker 2>dude that's currently in charge right now, but neither here

2397
02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:42.880
<v Speaker 2>nor there.

2398
02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:45.840
<v Speaker 4>And he decides to develop something.

2399
02:11:45.680 --> 02:11:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Called Operations Star Wars where he wants satellites with laser cannons.

2400
02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that so much.

2401
02:11:55.319 --> 02:11:58.199
<v Speaker 4>He had to get told by the scientists like, mister President,

2402
02:11:58.279 --> 02:12:01.600
<v Speaker 4>we don't have this, and like he's like, oh, I know,

2403
02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:01.920
<v Speaker 4>we do.

2404
02:12:02.039 --> 02:12:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I know y'all been lying about some things like no, no, no,

2405
02:12:04.640 --> 02:12:06.720
<v Speaker 2>mister president. Look, we could start working on that, sure,

2406
02:12:06.760 --> 02:12:10.239
<v Speaker 2>but like the technology doesn't exist to do what the fuck.

2407
02:12:10.079 --> 02:12:12.119
<v Speaker 4>You're talking about? Like you got to stop.

2408
02:12:12.239 --> 02:12:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But it didn't stop him from spending a few million

2409
02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:16.640
<v Speaker 2>dollars on before the scientists could like yank him by

2410
02:12:16.680 --> 02:12:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the collar.

2411
02:12:17.039 --> 02:12:19.520
<v Speaker 4>But what's out the point this? GEC.

2412
02:12:19.680 --> 02:12:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Marconi did develop a stingray torpedo, which, for those that

2413
02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:27.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know, the stingray torpedo was revolutionary for the timeframe.

2414
02:12:27.920 --> 02:12:31.880
<v Speaker 2>It basically was a submarine hunting torpedo and it used

2415
02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:34.479
<v Speaker 2>different levels of technology that had not been previously used

2416
02:12:34.520 --> 02:12:38.960
<v Speaker 2>before to hunt, track and basically find its target. So

2417
02:12:39.439 --> 02:12:41.840
<v Speaker 2>this group developed these torpedoes that was bought by the

2418
02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:46.319
<v Speaker 2>United States. Anyway, The first death to gain widespread attention

2419
02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and be linked to the theory came in eighty six

2420
02:12:49.119 --> 02:12:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and eighty seven. In just about a year, six scientists died,

2421
02:12:54.039 --> 02:12:56.920
<v Speaker 2>three of whom had worked for the Marconi Company, a

2422
02:12:57.000 --> 02:13:03.079
<v Speaker 2>subsidiary of the defense group Geeneral Electric. Right, so most

2423
02:13:03.399 --> 02:13:06.159
<v Speaker 2>most deaths were ruled suicides or accidents.

2424
02:13:06.560 --> 02:13:07.199
<v Speaker 4>Of course.

2425
02:13:07.920 --> 02:13:10.119
<v Speaker 2>One died after driving his car, which had been packed

2426
02:13:10.159 --> 02:13:15.039
<v Speaker 2>full of gasoline containers, because you know, when you're driving

2427
02:13:15.479 --> 02:13:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a four door sedan, you just happen to pack like

2428
02:13:18.960 --> 02:13:21.760
<v Speaker 2>ten empty gas cans in it, or full gas cans

2429
02:13:21.800 --> 02:13:25.319
<v Speaker 2>obviously clearly because of course, of course, who doesn't do that.

2430
02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Another tied a rope to his neck and to a

2431
02:13:30.199 --> 02:13:33.800
<v Speaker 2>tree and then drove off in a car. Y'all that

2432
02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:38.079
<v Speaker 2>on that one does it for me? This dude? You

2433
02:13:38.119 --> 02:13:40.359
<v Speaker 2>ever you ever see those old movies, and maybe you've

2434
02:13:40.359 --> 02:13:42.079
<v Speaker 2>done it yourself. Good Coult members where you got a

2435
02:13:42.119 --> 02:13:44.119
<v Speaker 2>kid that's got a loose tooth and they're afraid to

2436
02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:45.960
<v Speaker 2>pull it, So you tie a string around the tooth

2437
02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and you tie it to a doorknob and you slam

2438
02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the door and it yanks it out.

2439
02:13:49.680 --> 02:13:53.520
<v Speaker 4>Homeboy decided to do that with his fucking neck and

2440
02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:55.680
<v Speaker 4>a tree in his car.

2441
02:13:57.479 --> 02:13:58.680
<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely ridiculous.

2442
02:13:58.720 --> 02:14:01.520
<v Speaker 5>That's likely as scientists that shot himself in the back

2443
02:14:01.560 --> 02:14:03.920
<v Speaker 5>of the head while driving into the lake.

2444
02:14:04.319 --> 02:14:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Somehow, yes, and also should go without you know, we

2445
02:14:07.279 --> 02:14:09.319
<v Speaker 2>can't sit set the fact that the gas pedal for

2446
02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:13.079
<v Speaker 2>old Boy had a fucking iron rod stuck into it

2447
02:14:13.199 --> 02:14:19.239
<v Speaker 2>and wedge underneath the seat. Yeah, so okay, well suspicious.

2448
02:14:19.359 --> 02:14:25.279
<v Speaker 2>There a third die of carbon monoxide poisoning in his garage.

2449
02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:27.479
<v Speaker 4>No links were found between them.

2450
02:14:28.079 --> 02:14:30.840
<v Speaker 2>At the time, some opposition lawmakers in the British Parliament

2451
02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:34.039
<v Speaker 2>called for an investigation into their deaths. Proponents of the

2452
02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:37.159
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory linked the deaths to James Bond esque set

2453
02:14:37.199 --> 02:14:42.239
<v Speaker 2>of assassinations, variably blaming the Soviet spy agency the KGB.

2454
02:14:42.560 --> 02:14:44.960
<v Speaker 2>This is back in the Cold War. Soviet Russia was

2455
02:14:44.960 --> 02:14:48.560
<v Speaker 2>absolutely rocking and rolling at that time. American spies or

2456
02:14:48.720 --> 02:14:52.960
<v Speaker 2>even British spies. Little am I six action here. Proponents

2457
02:14:53.000 --> 02:14:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of the theory claimed that the deaths were linked because

2458
02:14:55.000 --> 02:14:58.680
<v Speaker 2>of the scientists working on the same few classified projects,

2459
02:14:59.039 --> 02:15:00.800
<v Speaker 2>although most of the science I just had not been

2460
02:15:00.880 --> 02:15:04.520
<v Speaker 2>working on close that closely together and we're working on separate,

2461
02:15:04.600 --> 02:15:09.199
<v Speaker 2>mostly unclassified projects allegedly. But with that, there is a

2462
02:15:09.279 --> 02:15:12.880
<v Speaker 2>book that you can go by called Open Verdict, and

2463
02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:15.359
<v Speaker 2>it is from January of nineteen ninety one when it

2464
02:15:15.439 --> 02:15:19.159
<v Speaker 2>was first published, Open Verdict by Tony Collins. If anybody's

2465
02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:22.800
<v Speaker 2>curious an account of twenty five mysterious deaths in the

2466
02:15:22.840 --> 02:15:27.439
<v Speaker 2>defense industry, it's it's a wild thing. And this dude

2467
02:15:27.720 --> 02:15:30.760
<v Speaker 2>reached out to the British Parliament for their version of

2468
02:15:30.760 --> 02:15:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a Foyer request, and it took years for them to

2469
02:15:34.880 --> 02:15:37.720
<v Speaker 2>even acknowledge him. They saw it, that's on record that

2470
02:15:37.800 --> 02:15:43.199
<v Speaker 2>they saw the Foyer request. They blatantly ignored him multiple times,

2471
02:15:43.880 --> 02:15:46.600
<v Speaker 2>and some claim that he was arrested for it. I

2472
02:15:46.680 --> 02:15:48.920
<v Speaker 2>can't find any evidence of this, but some are saying

2473
02:15:48.960 --> 02:15:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that he randomly got a no knock rate and all

2474
02:15:51.279 --> 02:15:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the I don't know. I don't believe that that's actually accurate.

2475
02:15:54.680 --> 02:15:57.479
<v Speaker 2>But while doing research into this, if you're looking good

2476
02:15:57.520 --> 02:15:59.319
<v Speaker 2>cult members, you might find that. But beside the point

2477
02:15:59.800 --> 02:16:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to only Collins put out a FOI request, it was

2478
02:16:02.399 --> 02:16:04.520
<v Speaker 2>blatantly ignored, so he put out another one, and then

2479
02:16:04.680 --> 02:16:09.039
<v Speaker 2>finally they released the list. There is not a single

2480
02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:15.000
<v Speaker 2>thing of this list that seems normal at all. And

2481
02:16:15.079 --> 02:16:16.960
<v Speaker 2>then when you find out that all of them worked

2482
02:16:17.039 --> 02:16:20.600
<v Speaker 2>for the same company at the same time, working on

2483
02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:24.119
<v Speaker 2>very similar classified things, and you start looking at some

2484
02:16:24.159 --> 02:16:26.479
<v Speaker 2>of them, we're going for the American defense industry around

2485
02:16:26.520 --> 02:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>the time when Reagan was trying to make lasers on

2486
02:16:28.640 --> 02:16:33.920
<v Speaker 2>satellites a thing. It's all very, very highly suspect. So

2487
02:16:34.079 --> 02:16:36.079
<v Speaker 2>as far as what we're looking at now in America,

2488
02:16:36.719 --> 02:16:40.879
<v Speaker 2>with all these scientists that have been missing, leaving without

2489
02:16:40.920 --> 02:16:46.440
<v Speaker 2>any record, random deaths occurring, whatever, we're not crazy to

2490
02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:49.000
<v Speaker 2>look at this very highly skeptically.

2491
02:16:49.559 --> 02:16:50.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's a word. I just made

2492
02:16:50.760 --> 02:16:50.959
<v Speaker 4>that up.

2493
02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:53.360
<v Speaker 2>A rolling with it and looking at it with that

2494
02:16:53.440 --> 02:16:56.159
<v Speaker 2>third aisle all the way open. Because there is historical

2495
02:16:56.280 --> 02:16:59.520
<v Speaker 2>precedence for scientists in the same field, in the same

2496
02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:03.280
<v Speaker 2>community waking up dead all over the place, and that

2497
02:17:03.360 --> 02:17:08.120
<v Speaker 2>at least happened from in the eighties to ninety It's

2498
02:17:09.959 --> 02:17:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I will also raise.

2499
02:17:11.600 --> 02:17:17.559
<v Speaker 5>You eleven nuclear scientists that were all killed in interesting

2500
02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:22.040
<v Speaker 5>ways that all happened to be Eleven Indian scientists that

2501
02:17:22.159 --> 02:17:23.840
<v Speaker 5>were killed in a matter of a four year span,

2502
02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:26.120
<v Speaker 5>that all worked on the same kind of projects. Yes,

2503
02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:31.440
<v Speaker 5>that were all murdered in very interesting ways. Seven by suicide,

2504
02:17:31.479 --> 02:17:34.040
<v Speaker 5>two by industrial fires, one by murder, and one by

2505
02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:34.840
<v Speaker 5>road accident.

2506
02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, when you actually look into how they really died though,

2507
02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:40.479
<v Speaker 3>let's see.

2508
02:17:40.799 --> 02:17:45.319
<v Speaker 5>We have some of them that were hung randomly that

2509
02:17:45.840 --> 02:17:49.440
<v Speaker 5>don't make any sense, one by drowning at sea, right,

2510
02:17:49.799 --> 02:17:52.719
<v Speaker 5>and they were all working for this nuclear power corporation

2511
02:17:53.319 --> 02:17:57.479
<v Speaker 5>that was funded by the Department of Atomic Energy. Two

2512
02:17:57.520 --> 02:18:01.600
<v Speaker 5>of the bodies were found in their residence. One of

2513
02:18:01.639 --> 02:18:06.040
<v Speaker 5>the scientists was found in his residence like two years later.

2514
02:18:06.760 --> 02:18:10.920
<v Speaker 5>Another one was committed suicide by unknown way.

2515
02:18:11.079 --> 02:18:13.639
<v Speaker 3>A chemical lab exploded and killed some people.

2516
02:18:14.200 --> 02:18:16.399
<v Speaker 5>The list goes on and on if you actually like

2517
02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:20.639
<v Speaker 5>break down, so it talks about like, uh, the two

2518
02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:25.520
<v Speaker 5>scientists were working on this project together that were killed.

2519
02:18:26.079 --> 02:18:29.360
<v Speaker 5>They were they were working on bioengineer stuff, they were

2520
02:18:29.399 --> 02:18:30.559
<v Speaker 5>working on nuclear stuff.

2521
02:18:30.600 --> 02:18:31.360
<v Speaker 3>They were all killed.

2522
02:18:31.399 --> 02:18:34.399
<v Speaker 5>Well, then you fast forward to when was this this

2523
02:18:34.760 --> 02:18:38.479
<v Speaker 5>was four months ago and two more scientists were killed

2524
02:18:38.600 --> 02:18:43.280
<v Speaker 5>for the d R D O scientists in India that.

2525
02:18:43.440 --> 02:18:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Work for the government.

2526
02:18:45.879 --> 02:18:47.639
<v Speaker 5>Let me see if I can find it. It says

2527
02:18:48.079 --> 02:18:53.879
<v Speaker 5>the top tier scientists. So this is so is the

2528
02:18:54.000 --> 02:18:57.239
<v Speaker 5>government of the agency. It's the Ministry of Defense. And

2529
02:18:57.799 --> 02:19:02.680
<v Speaker 5>they were also just recently unlive somehow, and they're working

2530
02:19:02.719 --> 02:19:05.840
<v Speaker 5>on missile missions and they were also just killed.

2531
02:19:05.959 --> 02:19:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's a.

2532
02:19:07.079 --> 02:19:10.159
<v Speaker 5>Pattern throughout because in two thousand and nine to twenty

2533
02:19:10.280 --> 02:19:13.159
<v Speaker 5>twelve is the eleven nuclear scientists, and then you have

2534
02:19:13.200 --> 02:19:16.040
<v Speaker 5>the British ones, then we have ours, and I'm sure

2535
02:19:16.040 --> 02:19:17.319
<v Speaker 5>where there's more if.

2536
02:19:17.200 --> 02:19:19.079
<v Speaker 3>We keep looking. The list that I sent you was

2537
02:19:19.159 --> 02:19:21.319
<v Speaker 3>like one hundred and sixteen of them.

2538
02:19:21.639 --> 02:19:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to look at it, honestly. Oh, so that one

2539
02:19:25.319 --> 02:19:26.280
<v Speaker 4>it is like recent.

2540
02:19:27.280 --> 02:19:29.520
<v Speaker 3>You'd have to scroll down, will I guess?

2541
02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Maybe let's see, I don't know if they're in chronological Yeah,

2542
02:19:31.959 --> 02:19:34.040
<v Speaker 2>they're in chronological wor so this is we're going back

2543
02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:37.079
<v Speaker 2>in time here twenty ten? Wow?

2544
02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know what?

2545
02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:43.200
<v Speaker 5>So there was so in twenty nineteen and missing American

2546
02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:46.879
<v Speaker 5>scientist Susanne Eaton was found dead in abandoned World War

2547
02:19:46.959 --> 02:19:50.440
<v Speaker 5>two bunker in Greece, which makes absolutely no sense. Nothing

2548
02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:53.600
<v Speaker 5>of the story makes sense, and the Greece, the Greek

2549
02:19:53.639 --> 02:19:55.920
<v Speaker 5>people just pretty much said, yeah, well.

2550
02:19:56.239 --> 02:19:57.840
<v Speaker 3>We weren't really sure how this happened.

2551
02:19:57.879 --> 02:20:01.440
<v Speaker 5>She was found seven miles away a bunker from where

2552
02:20:01.520 --> 02:20:04.600
<v Speaker 5>she was supposed to be giving a speech, and nothing

2553
02:20:04.639 --> 02:20:06.120
<v Speaker 5>of this story makes any sense.

2554
02:20:06.799 --> 02:20:08.520
<v Speaker 3>And that was a weird one.

2555
02:20:08.719 --> 02:20:12.319
<v Speaker 5>And then another guy was found a missing US government

2556
02:20:12.399 --> 02:20:16.120
<v Speaker 5>scientist found dead. That was in twenty eighteen, and his

2557
02:20:16.319 --> 02:20:19.879
<v Speaker 5>body just vanished. He vanished for six weeks and then

2558
02:20:20.319 --> 02:20:23.200
<v Speaker 5>was found dead. And none of it makes any sense

2559
02:20:23.200 --> 02:20:25.840
<v Speaker 5>about his story either, and they don't. They just kind

2560
02:20:25.840 --> 02:20:28.239
<v Speaker 5>of ruled it out, like they just said, there's no suspect,

2561
02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:30.959
<v Speaker 5>no foul play, and it's whatever. And he was tackling

2562
02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:35.879
<v Speaker 5>Ebola and Zeka viruses before he died. A virologists.

2563
02:20:36.000 --> 02:20:39.799
<v Speaker 2>Fifth holistic doctor died in Florida, making five dead and

2564
02:20:39.959 --> 02:20:43.760
<v Speaker 2>five more missing. That was in twenty fifteen. So you

2565
02:20:43.920 --> 02:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>had ten holistic doctors, all just they're no longer with us,

2566
02:20:49.879 --> 02:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>all within a few months of each other. Holy shit,

2567
02:20:53.319 --> 02:20:55.719
<v Speaker 2>that was in twenty fifteen. Don't even me wrong, but like, okay,

2568
02:20:55.920 --> 02:21:00.520
<v Speaker 2>June nineteenth, June twenty first, June twenty ninth, Une third,

2569
02:21:01.079 --> 02:21:04.479
<v Speaker 2>or July third rather July tenth. These are the ones

2570
02:21:04.559 --> 02:21:06.719
<v Speaker 2>that we know what happened to them. And there's also

2571
02:21:06.840 --> 02:21:08.040
<v Speaker 2>five missing on top.

2572
02:21:07.959 --> 02:21:08.159
<v Speaker 6>Of that.

2573
02:21:10.000 --> 02:21:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Then, and this government guy was twenty eighteen, which was

2574
02:21:14.399 --> 02:21:19.159
<v Speaker 5>working on virology, and yeah, it's it's crazy, Like the

2575
02:21:19.239 --> 02:21:20.719
<v Speaker 5>whole list is crazy.

2576
02:21:21.840 --> 02:21:25.200
<v Speaker 2>It only goes to twenty fifteen though, dead scientists, and

2577
02:21:25.559 --> 02:21:26.959
<v Speaker 2>four to twenty fifteen.

2578
02:21:28.040 --> 02:21:31.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's well I found like the one in twenty twenty, nineteen,

2579
02:21:31.760 --> 02:21:37.479
<v Speaker 5>twenty eighteen. They're scattered around where they're where they're actually located.

2580
02:21:37.559 --> 02:21:40.680
<v Speaker 5>But like, no one has confirmed why or how these

2581
02:21:40.719 --> 02:21:43.760
<v Speaker 5>people have died. They kind of just like, oh they died.

2582
02:21:44.159 --> 02:21:46.440
<v Speaker 5>It's with enormous sadness and regret.

2583
02:21:46.799 --> 02:21:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, they passed away.

2584
02:21:48.399 --> 02:21:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Check this out. Twenty twelve.

2585
02:21:53.239 --> 02:21:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Gallera Bags bagger Za Day died January seventeenth when she

2586
02:21:59.079 --> 02:22:03.319
<v Speaker 2>was shot outside of her She an Iranian molecular scientist,

2587
02:22:04.280 --> 02:22:06.879
<v Speaker 2>was gunned down in her car as she drove home,

2588
02:22:08.040 --> 02:22:10.440
<v Speaker 2>believed she was followed by someone who was waiting for

2589
02:22:10.840 --> 02:22:12.840
<v Speaker 2>She was struck by a single bullet that entered the

2590
02:22:12.879 --> 02:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>passenger door window as she talked on her cell phone

2591
02:22:15.719 --> 02:22:18.639
<v Speaker 2>with her ex boyfriend. She was a molecular genetic technology

2592
02:22:18.680 --> 02:22:23.319
<v Speaker 2>student at M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston and

2593
02:22:23.479 --> 02:22:26.520
<v Speaker 2>also active in promoting Iranian women's rights.

2594
02:22:27.799 --> 02:22:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

2595
02:22:28.559 --> 02:22:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well she was an Iranian woman that had to

2596
02:22:31.360 --> 02:22:35.040
<v Speaker 2>leave Iran to go anywhere with her life because obviously

2597
02:22:35.159 --> 02:22:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Iran's not exactly kind of women.

2598
02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:40.920
<v Speaker 4>And in twenty twelve she got got in Houston. Yeah.

2599
02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:44.719
<v Speaker 5>In twenty eleven, there was a plane crash with five

2600
02:22:44.840 --> 02:22:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Russian scientists, nuclear scientists, all working within the plant.

2601
02:22:49.520 --> 02:22:50.239
<v Speaker 3>All she died.

2602
02:22:50.479 --> 02:22:54.440
<v Speaker 2>A NASA robotics expert died when his single engine plane

2603
02:22:54.559 --> 02:22:56.360
<v Speaker 2>nose dive shortly after takeoff.

2604
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:01.959
<v Speaker 4>I was in twenty twenty fifteen.

2605
02:23:03.920 --> 02:23:10.440
<v Speaker 5>March eighteenth, twenty eleven, old boy jumps from the George Bridge.

2606
02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:14.600
<v Speaker 5>He was a nuclear engineer for thirty years, experience design, construction,

2607
02:23:14.799 --> 02:23:19.840
<v Speaker 5>startup of nuclear government and nuclear facilities. His expertise was

2608
02:23:19.879 --> 02:23:25.959
<v Speaker 5>in nuclear safety and regulations, hazard assessment, safety analysis. And yeah,

2609
02:23:26.000 --> 02:23:28.159
<v Speaker 5>he goes on and tell them about but he jumped

2610
02:23:28.159 --> 02:23:31.879
<v Speaker 5>to his death. Another one died of unknown things, one

2611
02:23:31.959 --> 02:23:35.120
<v Speaker 5>died in a car crash, One was assassinated, and that

2612
02:23:35.399 --> 02:23:39.639
<v Speaker 5>was the remote control bomb inside of his motorcycle near

2613
02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:43.959
<v Speaker 5>his car detonated. That was that was he is a

2614
02:23:44.040 --> 02:23:47.600
<v Speaker 5>nuclear physicist at Tyron University.

2615
02:23:47.680 --> 02:23:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Tehran, Iran.

2616
02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he's yeah, he's Iranian.

2617
02:23:51.479 --> 02:23:59.280
<v Speaker 5>Iranian doctor Muhammadi Mohammedi fifty was assassinated January eleventh.

2618
02:23:59.000 --> 02:23:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And twenty twenty.

2619
02:24:00.920 --> 02:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

2620
02:24:02.639 --> 02:24:04.639
<v Speaker 3>So some were missing, some were dead.

2621
02:24:05.079 --> 02:24:09.120
<v Speaker 2>There's clearly a line of thought to say that whenever

2622
02:24:09.319 --> 02:24:11.479
<v Speaker 2>a scientist or a group of scientists working in a

2623
02:24:11.559 --> 02:24:16.719
<v Speaker 2>certain field all mysteriously vanish, get assassinated, die in weird ways,

2624
02:24:17.319 --> 02:24:19.879
<v Speaker 2>that we need to do a deeper investigation. I don't

2625
02:24:19.879 --> 02:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>think that's a crazy statement to make, right, And there's

2626
02:24:22.840 --> 02:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>historical precedents for this. I brought up the situation in England,

2627
02:24:26.799 --> 02:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>You brought up the situation in India, and then we

2628
02:24:29.799 --> 02:24:31.760
<v Speaker 2>had this long list here and I mean just that

2629
02:24:31.920 --> 02:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>we got these ten doctors holistic doctors here, three other

2630
02:24:36.159 --> 02:24:39.120
<v Speaker 2>holistic doctors within two weeks of each other, and it's

2631
02:24:39.239 --> 02:24:42.639
<v Speaker 2>it's all crazy. So at that time in twenty fifteen,

2632
02:24:42.719 --> 02:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>holistic doctors getting got that was kind of a big

2633
02:24:46.040 --> 02:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>talking point back in that time too.

2634
02:24:47.760 --> 02:24:48.280
<v Speaker 4>It still is.

2635
02:24:49.600 --> 02:24:56.079
<v Speaker 5>Four neurobiologists were all murdered on February thirteenth, twenty ten. Yeah, exactly,

2636
02:24:56.479 --> 02:24:59.440
<v Speaker 5>like they're just they're grouping them together, They're they're murdering

2637
02:25:00.040 --> 02:25:03.719
<v Speaker 5>and assassinating these groups of scientists because that's a big

2638
02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:07.000
<v Speaker 5>conversation that's always been had to remove, like because the

2639
02:25:07.079 --> 02:25:10.959
<v Speaker 5>scientists are really the forefront of all human innovation. So

2640
02:25:11.079 --> 02:25:13.399
<v Speaker 5>if you remove the smartest people of the population, then

2641
02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:14.639
<v Speaker 5>the rest of the people are going to kind of

2642
02:25:14.680 --> 02:25:18.360
<v Speaker 5>flounder around. And so it's interesting that there's proof of

2643
02:25:18.440 --> 02:25:21.159
<v Speaker 5>all these groups of scientists that are being killed and murdered,

2644
02:25:21.159 --> 02:25:23.239
<v Speaker 5>and this is now the new group of them. But

2645
02:25:23.319 --> 02:25:27.280
<v Speaker 5>they were clearly all working on science related or space

2646
02:25:27.360 --> 02:25:28.040
<v Speaker 5>related things.

2647
02:25:28.840 --> 02:25:31.079
<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about that now.

2648
02:25:31.319 --> 02:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>So with the scientists that have in the recent months

2649
02:25:35.319 --> 02:25:38.479
<v Speaker 2>all gone missing or been found dead or something along

2650
02:25:38.559 --> 02:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>these lines, were murdered, we're assassinated, shot on their front porch,

2651
02:25:42.319 --> 02:25:44.319
<v Speaker 2>some sort of a weird and I still don't I

2652
02:25:44.360 --> 02:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that was a love triangle or some

2653
02:25:47.040 --> 02:25:48.360
<v Speaker 2>sort of an affair gone wrong.

2654
02:25:48.520 --> 02:25:49.559
<v Speaker 4>It very well might have been.

2655
02:25:50.639 --> 02:25:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But and again, each of these individual scientists that we've

2656
02:25:53.760 --> 02:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>covered on this episode this evening, right, if it was

2657
02:25:57.360 --> 02:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a single case, even the three people that were murder suicide,

2658
02:26:01.479 --> 02:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that whole thing, it's crazy, but crazier shit has happened,

2659
02:26:06.719 --> 02:26:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and you've heard of things crazier going down, so like, Okay,

2660
02:26:10.600 --> 02:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it's no big deal.

2661
02:26:11.360 --> 02:26:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I could see it.

2662
02:26:12.239 --> 02:26:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I could see the plot for all of this to

2663
02:26:15.440 --> 02:26:19.159
<v Speaker 2>be going down in such a short condensed time frame,

2664
02:26:19.920 --> 02:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>especially the head of Right Patterson, the scientists that worked

2665
02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:29.239
<v Speaker 2>on the propulsion components, one of the people that worked

2666
02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:32.799
<v Speaker 2>at the lab in New Mexico, them just taking off,

2667
02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:36.799
<v Speaker 2>leaving their cell phones and just dipping this. All these

2668
02:26:36.840 --> 02:26:41.879
<v Speaker 2>things tied in together like this, All right, ravenly theory time.

2669
02:26:42.680 --> 02:26:46.799
<v Speaker 4>What is your take? Because there's no theory that's any

2670
02:26:47.200 --> 02:26:49.120
<v Speaker 4>less or more crazy than the others.

2671
02:26:49.120 --> 02:26:54.120
<v Speaker 5>At this point, I don't know why my mind keeps

2672
02:26:54.159 --> 02:26:55.360
<v Speaker 5>coming back to Stonehenge.

2673
02:26:55.440 --> 02:26:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I know that we did.

2674
02:26:56.239 --> 02:26:58.399
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck keep I keep.

2675
02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:02.280
<v Speaker 5>Going back to what what the proposal of Ai of

2676
02:27:02.399 --> 02:27:05.639
<v Speaker 5>the machine of stone Hinge? And I keep coming back

2677
02:27:05.680 --> 02:27:10.840
<v Speaker 5>to this. And because AI, just Grock, just was able

2678
02:27:10.959 --> 02:27:14.959
<v Speaker 5>to unlock the written language that people have been trying

2679
02:27:14.959 --> 02:27:17.639
<v Speaker 5>to unlock for a long time. That just happened literally yesterday,

2680
02:27:17.760 --> 02:27:21.159
<v Speaker 5>day before, and I'm just thinking about all like the technology,

2681
02:27:21.319 --> 02:27:25.040
<v Speaker 5>how Artemis hit The weird path of Artemist two is on.

2682
02:27:25.440 --> 02:27:28.719
<v Speaker 5>It's very strange how China and Russia have been talking

2683
02:27:28.799 --> 02:27:31.639
<v Speaker 5>a bunch about getting to you know, put a nuclear

2684
02:27:31.680 --> 02:27:35.399
<v Speaker 5>plant on the Moon and doing all that situation, and

2685
02:27:35.440 --> 02:27:38.639
<v Speaker 5>then us trying to push forward with the AI technology

2686
02:27:38.840 --> 02:27:42.360
<v Speaker 5>for space, and then Elon consistently talking about putting his

2687
02:27:42.440 --> 02:27:44.879
<v Speaker 5>spaceship up there and how we need to get to

2688
02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:46.760
<v Speaker 5>Mars and we need to do this, and like we're

2689
02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:48.680
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to set up this base and we're going

2690
02:27:48.719 --> 02:27:51.239
<v Speaker 5>to push forward out into the universe to be able

2691
02:27:51.319 --> 02:27:55.680
<v Speaker 5>to expand the human consciousness. And then looking at all

2692
02:27:55.760 --> 02:28:00.159
<v Speaker 5>of these people and you know, astrophysicists and rec on

2693
02:28:00.280 --> 02:28:07.280
<v Speaker 5>a space and nuclear weapons, natural science, alloy inventors, the

2694
02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:09.879
<v Speaker 5>alien do that knew and was connected to everybody. I

2695
02:28:10.000 --> 02:28:13.159
<v Speaker 5>just have a hard time thinking that it doesn't involve

2696
02:28:13.799 --> 02:28:17.319
<v Speaker 5>something to do with space. And now I don't know,

2697
02:28:17.559 --> 02:28:20.600
<v Speaker 5>if I don't know, it seems more likely that a

2698
02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:23.719
<v Speaker 5>foreign actor was probably involved in taking out these people,

2699
02:28:25.520 --> 02:28:30.120
<v Speaker 5>because if they actually have a or and or kidnapping

2700
02:28:30.159 --> 02:28:35.559
<v Speaker 5>them or they ran away, I'm not sure. It seems

2701
02:28:36.239 --> 02:28:40.559
<v Speaker 5>like a foreign actor is a heavy potential, or our

2702
02:28:40.600 --> 02:28:44.280
<v Speaker 5>own government. But it seems really interesting that the two

2703
02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:51.040
<v Speaker 5>that worked at the what is this called los Alamos. Yeah,

2704
02:28:51.079 --> 02:28:56.840
<v Speaker 5>they they both left everything behind within like what forty

2705
02:28:56.920 --> 02:29:00.760
<v Speaker 5>days of each other, and dipped out the exact same way.

2706
02:29:01.840 --> 02:29:04.680
<v Speaker 5>Even though she worked in admin and like they didn't,

2707
02:29:04.719 --> 02:29:07.399
<v Speaker 5>they still were high up, though they still were involved

2708
02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:10.840
<v Speaker 5>in things. It's just really odd some of the circumstances

2709
02:29:10.879 --> 02:29:13.239
<v Speaker 5>in which the ones that actually went missing went missing.

2710
02:29:13.239 --> 02:29:15.319
<v Speaker 5>Because I hike all the time, sure, and for her

2711
02:29:15.479 --> 02:29:18.239
<v Speaker 5>to be waving and smiling and all this if there

2712
02:29:18.399 --> 02:29:20.680
<v Speaker 5>was a landslide or if there was some type of

2713
02:29:20.799 --> 02:29:22.840
<v Speaker 5>she fell or anything like that. But if you would

2714
02:29:22.840 --> 02:29:25.440
<v Speaker 5>have heard her, you would have heard the rocks, you

2715
02:29:25.520 --> 02:29:28.040
<v Speaker 5>would have heard her yell. Ye, you would have heard

2716
02:29:28.239 --> 02:29:31.000
<v Speaker 5>her fall. You would have seen the body. They would

2717
02:29:31.000 --> 02:29:33.559
<v Speaker 5>have recovered a body, they would have seen evidence of

2718
02:29:33.600 --> 02:29:34.479
<v Speaker 5>her disappearing.

2719
02:29:35.399 --> 02:29:38.079
<v Speaker 3>She just up and vanished, like literally vanished.

2720
02:29:38.760 --> 02:29:42.079
<v Speaker 5>And then old Boy the general going out like guns,

2721
02:29:42.120 --> 02:29:45.040
<v Speaker 5>slinging out there with a gun and just like hey,

2722
02:29:45.120 --> 02:29:47.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm out here at a party. And then the other

2723
02:29:47.440 --> 02:29:51.319
<v Speaker 5>two pretty much packing bags and dipping out. It's like, okay,

2724
02:29:51.559 --> 02:29:53.280
<v Speaker 5>so is it.

2725
02:29:53.479 --> 02:29:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Possible that this is not of human origin? I don't know.

2726
02:29:58.639 --> 02:30:00.479
<v Speaker 3>Is it our government? Is it people?

2727
02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:03.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I have literally no idea but I find

2728
02:30:03.559 --> 02:30:06.680
<v Speaker 5>it really interesting that there's a pattern of scientists being

2729
02:30:06.840 --> 02:30:07.719
<v Speaker 5>murdered in groups.

2730
02:30:08.000 --> 02:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it has been for decades, And.

2731
02:30:11.719 --> 02:30:13.760
<v Speaker 4>So I'm with you that I think that there's a

2732
02:30:13.840 --> 02:30:16.479
<v Speaker 4>clear connection between all of it.

2733
02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, everybody that we have talked about this evening has

2734
02:30:19.959 --> 02:30:24.879
<v Speaker 2>had some sort of a connection to space, nuclear weapons,

2735
02:30:25.399 --> 02:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>rocket propulsion, or some sort of a mixture of all

2736
02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the above.

2737
02:30:29.879 --> 02:30:33.239
<v Speaker 4>Right, And even the one guy who was like the biologist.

2738
02:30:32.719 --> 02:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>That was found the chemical biologists, which keep.

2739
02:30:35.680 --> 02:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>In mind, whenever we were looking at the whole uh

2740
02:30:38.840 --> 02:30:41.479
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, what was it called the atlas three or

2741
02:30:41.559 --> 02:30:44.879
<v Speaker 2>three eye at lists, Right, they were looking at color

2742
02:30:44.959 --> 02:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>signatures to see if there was some sort of possible

2743
02:30:49.959 --> 02:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>biological life. They were looking at the chemical signatures to

2744
02:30:54.079 --> 02:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>see if there was possible biological life, right, And they

2745
02:30:56.920 --> 02:30:58.840
<v Speaker 2>were going on and on about how they had the

2746
02:30:59.000 --> 02:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>right composite mixture to potentially house life on that object.

2747
02:31:05.840 --> 02:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You remember us talking about that. And they could tell

2748
02:31:07.639 --> 02:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>that through spectral not grammatic graphy, spectral I forget what

2749
02:31:14.639 --> 02:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>it was called, but basically you're taking you're looking at

2750
02:31:17.520 --> 02:31:21.319
<v Speaker 2>what the chemical particles are giving you through a light

2751
02:31:21.399 --> 02:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>spectrograph to see what colors resonate, and you could tell, oh, okay,

2752
02:31:25.399 --> 02:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>we know that that's methane, we know that that's oxygen,

2753
02:31:28.200 --> 02:31:30.559
<v Speaker 2>we know that carbon does that color, and like there's

2754
02:31:30.639 --> 02:31:33.959
<v Speaker 2>scientific ways that you're able to do this. They were

2755
02:31:34.159 --> 02:31:38.959
<v Speaker 2>using his title of research to do that chemical biology.

2756
02:31:39.760 --> 02:31:43.639
<v Speaker 2>So to say that he's not connected, I respectfully disagree. Now,

2757
02:31:43.680 --> 02:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what project he was working on last,

2758
02:31:46.879 --> 02:31:49.079
<v Speaker 2>or what his laboratory was specialized in.

2759
02:31:49.239 --> 02:31:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

2760
02:31:50.719 --> 02:31:53.639
<v Speaker 2>What I am saying is that all of these things

2761
02:31:53.719 --> 02:31:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like are connected. Now the murder suicide, Is

2762
02:31:59.319 --> 02:32:03.799
<v Speaker 2>it possible it was some sort of a romance gone awry? Yes,

2763
02:32:04.760 --> 02:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>do I believe that? I mean maybe maybe, I'm not

2764
02:32:08.280 --> 02:32:10.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna negate that that's a real thing. The fact that

2765
02:32:10.920 --> 02:32:13.399
<v Speaker 2>both of them were named Jamie. If that's the case,

2766
02:32:13.440 --> 02:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>he obviously has a thing for skinny, white blonde women

2767
02:32:16.040 --> 02:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like Okay, okay, It's very possible there was some sort

2768
02:32:19.559 --> 02:32:22.879
<v Speaker 2>of shit going on there, very very Tyler Perry movie esque,

2769
02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:26.559
<v Speaker 2>if you will, I could see it, But I'm not convinced,

2770
02:32:27.159 --> 02:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>especially because of where they were all stationed.

2771
02:32:29.200 --> 02:32:31.239
<v Speaker 4>But I'm putting that to the side.

2772
02:32:31.280 --> 02:32:38.639
<v Speaker 2>It's possible, coupled with the multiple experts in leading people

2773
02:32:38.840 --> 02:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>walking off in the desert by their lonesome just buy right,

2774
02:32:44.120 --> 02:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>coupled with the leader of his field being shot on

2775
02:32:49.280 --> 02:32:54.399
<v Speaker 2>his front porch by some snyder for no reason, whenever

2776
02:32:54.479 --> 02:32:56.879
<v Speaker 2>he was already caught on the property once, already with

2777
02:32:57.040 --> 02:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a rifle. As crazy as fuck that they released him

2778
02:33:02.000 --> 02:33:05.399
<v Speaker 2>but okay, sounds to me like somebody at the top

2779
02:33:06.440 --> 02:33:11.239
<v Speaker 2>told somebody on the bottom to release that guy, even

2780
02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>though it was clear that he was a violent criminal.

2781
02:33:13.440 --> 02:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>But okay, release him tells me there was some conspiracy there.

2782
02:33:18.200 --> 02:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>You got your Portuguese homie and this guy with his

2783
02:33:21.200 --> 02:33:23.879
<v Speaker 2>psycho babbling about how excellent and brilliant he was that

2784
02:33:24.000 --> 02:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>took him out. Sounds like he was very brilliant mathematically,

2785
02:33:28.760 --> 02:33:32.600
<v Speaker 2>but probably very feeble on the social.

2786
02:33:32.319 --> 02:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Aspect of it.

2787
02:33:33.600 --> 02:33:35.639
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like he could have been coerced to

2788
02:33:35.799 --> 02:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>do some things on behalf of somebody else. Also sounds

2789
02:33:39.200 --> 02:33:43.159
<v Speaker 2>very conspiratorial to me, just sung it out. I think

2790
02:33:43.280 --> 02:33:44.600
<v Speaker 2>that it's all connected.

2791
02:33:44.680 --> 02:33:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Now. The big question is the why.

2792
02:33:47.000 --> 02:33:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Right do I believe that it's aliens that is the

2793
02:33:49.360 --> 02:33:52.600
<v Speaker 2>reason behind it, or the motive or even possibly the

2794
02:33:53.000 --> 02:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>vehicle in certain cases, maybe is it just aerospace in

2795
02:33:59.239 --> 02:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>general and space exploration.

2796
02:34:01.680 --> 02:34:03.000
<v Speaker 4>I like that you brought up, Musk.

2797
02:34:03.559 --> 02:34:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Is it is there any greater than zero percent chance

2798
02:34:07.200 --> 02:34:10.399
<v Speaker 2>that Elon has done this and hired some people. And

2799
02:34:10.559 --> 02:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got god tier level wealth, So is

2800
02:34:13.280 --> 02:34:17.639
<v Speaker 2>it possible he hired some former Moussade, former CIA guys

2801
02:34:17.719 --> 02:34:19.319
<v Speaker 2>to go in and brainwash some people to do.

2802
02:34:19.399 --> 02:34:20.079
<v Speaker 4>Some wild shit.

2803
02:34:20.680 --> 02:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>There is definitely a greater than zero percent chance of

2804
02:34:23.040 --> 02:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>this because he wants to monopolize space. I don't know

2805
02:34:26.479 --> 02:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>that for a fact, but I could see the riding

2806
02:34:28.440 --> 02:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>on the board if you see what I'm saying here,

2807
02:34:31.840 --> 02:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>all of that together. I don't know if it's our government.

2808
02:34:35.600 --> 02:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's a foreign government. I don't

2809
02:34:37.799 --> 02:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>know if it's neither of a government, but it's a

2810
02:34:41.840 --> 02:34:43.879
<v Speaker 2>person himself as in a.

2811
02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Bill Gates, Elon Musk, something along these lines. It's also

2812
02:34:49.159 --> 02:34:49.879
<v Speaker 4>could be aliens.

2813
02:34:50.360 --> 02:34:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Some of these people might be going off in the

2814
02:34:51.959 --> 02:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>desert so that they can be taken up by the

2815
02:34:55.440 --> 02:34:57.280
<v Speaker 2>entities that they have been in contact with.

2816
02:34:57.360 --> 02:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>For quite some time.

2817
02:34:58.879 --> 02:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And I commit Congressman Burchett or Burkitt, I don't know

2818
02:35:03.079 --> 02:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>how to pronounce your name, sir, but if you're listening,

2819
02:35:04.840 --> 02:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I will learn. I commend him for speaking out on

2820
02:35:09.120 --> 02:35:11.479
<v Speaker 2>it and saying that the government is lying to us,

2821
02:35:11.600 --> 02:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>even though he is a part of the government.

2822
02:35:13.879 --> 02:35:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Fucking props to the boy.

2823
02:35:15.920 --> 02:35:17.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so good.

2824
02:35:18.040 --> 02:35:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Cult members, we want to know what you think.

2825
02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:23.159
<v Speaker 2>What is your take on the wildness of what's going

2826
02:35:23.200 --> 02:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>on with these missing people, specifically these scientists in very

2827
02:35:27.879 --> 02:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>high up levels of their fields not being with us anymore,

2828
02:35:32.079 --> 02:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>whether by missing person or by being murdered. There's a

2829
02:35:35.280 --> 02:35:36.920
<v Speaker 2>lot to break down here and a lot to go into.

2830
02:35:37.200 --> 02:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>We want to hear from you before we sign off.

2831
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2858
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<v Speaker 2>covered a wide variety of tragedy and speculation and curiosity

2859
02:36:54.000 --> 02:36:58.639
<v Speaker 2>and in my opinion, downrighte conspiracy on this episode. We

2860
02:36:58.799 --> 02:37:00.879
<v Speaker 2>want to hear from you. What do you think about it?

2861
02:37:00.959 --> 02:37:02.559
<v Speaker 2>What is your take on the missing people? Do you

2862
02:37:02.600 --> 02:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>think it's UFO. Do you think it's foreign, Do you

2863
02:37:04.200 --> 02:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's domestic? Do you think these people individually lost

2864
02:37:06.799 --> 02:37:08.879
<v Speaker 2>their minds and went off into the desert, or do

2865
02:37:09.000 --> 02:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>you see what we see? Do you see a connection

2866
02:37:11.879 --> 02:37:15.479
<v Speaker 2>of red flags, the likes of which look like one

2867
02:37:15.520 --> 02:37:17.559
<v Speaker 2>of my ex wives. Listen, we need to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you good cult members in the best place to let

2869
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<v Speaker 2>us know would be too Please hit the five stars,

2870
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<v Speaker 4>We thank you for everybody's already gonna have done so.

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<v Speaker 2>And with all of this being said, this was another

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm the Cage of Knights and Raven.

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