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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. One of the most confounding and frustrating situations

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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein has to be what

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happened at Zoro Ranch. And I'm not just talking about

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the crimes, but the lack of interest from the government

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when it comes to investigating the crimes that took place

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at Zoro Ranch. And of course there's an investigation now,

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and I give the State of New Mexico a lot

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of credit for at least initiating it, But do we

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really think it's going to lead to anything? The house

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has already been knocked down, all the evidence is gone,

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So what do we really think we're going to find now?

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The caveat to that is, if there are buried bodies

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on the property, maybe they can be found, you know,

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cadaver dog shit like that. But the house itself, it

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should have been rated when Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, and

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I was going bananas about it at the time, like

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how do you arrest somebody like Jeffrey Epstein and leave

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one of his properties or multiple of his properties untouched?

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And unfortunately it wasn't just the property in New Mexico.

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We have properties in Colorado that were never searched either.

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And you know, when you have people out here talking about, well,

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this is just an old story. It's all been investigated.

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The problem is it was never investigated properly. And that's

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the biggest issue. If this has all been investigated and

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there was a paper trail of that investigation and stuff

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that we could look at and say, oh, you know what,

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okay contemporaneously, this is what they were doing and this

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is why. But there is none of that because there

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was never an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and his criminal

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behavior in New Mexico. And that was all by design.

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And when I went down there and talked to the

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people that you know, live around Zoro Ranch, the people

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in Stanley, the people in Santa Fe, everybody knew something

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goofy was going on down there. Everybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein,

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and everybody knew that he was being protected. So hopefully

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this new investigation at Zoro Ranch uncovers some new information

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that leads to people being held accountable. But I wouldn't

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hold my breath. Today we have an article from the

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Guardian and the headline investigators are finally looking into Jeffrey

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Epstein's New Mexico ranch. They may be too late. Maybe

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too late. They are too late. And that's why I

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went down there when I did, and I was raised

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in hell. Nobody wanted to talk to me. Not the

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local police, certainly, nobody at Jeffrey Epstein's ranch, nobody at

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Santa Fe Institute. Nobody had anything to say. Now, if

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the FEDS would have shown up, it would have been different, right,

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subpoena power. You're not going to be able to just

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be quiet. You're gonna get hemmed up. And look, I'm

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not just pulling this out of my ass. Take a

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look at how Diddy was treated when he was arrested.

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Every property had rated, everything he owned taken, and not

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only that, it was a gigantic spectacle. Right, news cameras

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everywhere CNN tipped off. Not for Epstein, none of that occurred.

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So my question once again is why, And after seven years,

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I still have not received an acceptable answer. So until then,

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I guess I'll just keep asking questions. This article was

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authored by Victoria B. Kempis and Anna Beets. When Jeffrey

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Epstein was arrested on July sixth twenty nineteen for sex

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trafficking teenagers. New York federal prosecutors said the ultra wealthy

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predator exploited and abused dozens underage girls in Manhattan and

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Palm Beach, among other locations. Yeah, every location he ever

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went to. If Jeffrey Epstein visited your country, chances are

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somebody got abused. This is a man who needed to

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have sex, what three times a day? So you really

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think on these trips he wasn't fulfilling his needs. He

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most certainly was. Why do you think these girls were

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brought with him? One of those locations was the late

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financier Pedophiles sprawling New Mexico property Epstein, so called Zoro Ranch,

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came into sharper relief after his August tenth, twenty nineteen

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death in jail awaiting trial, with criminal and civil proceedings

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revealing the numerous alleged abuses that unfolded there. But Zoro

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Ranch did not receive the same scrutiny as Epstein's other properties.

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Of February eighth, Guardian investigation revealed that federal authorities apparently

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never searched the property. There's no apparently they never did.

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There was no raid of Jeffrey Epstein's Orro Ranch. Not apparently,

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not allegedly. That's just what happened. The federal government decided

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they had no interest in what was going on at

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Zoro Ranch. I guess it was just more negligence, right,

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just another oversight, just another coincidence. The US Department of

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Justice recent disclosure of some three million investigative documents under

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Congress Epstein File Transparency Act has renewed attention on Zoro Ranch. Now,

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officials in New Mexico are investigating Epstein's activities there. The

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Attorney General announced the state would reopen. There are twenty

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nineteen investigation put on hold at federal prosecutor's request, and

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state legislator has established a truth commission to look into

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past activity at Epstein's ranch. Look all a good idea,

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but too little, too late. We're never going to get

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to the bottom of it now. Now. I'm sure that

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there's going to be people that'll come forward and they'll

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have some things to say, but the tangible evidence, the

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put you in prison type of shit we need, we're

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not going to find it now. The government and I'll

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tell you that was you know, all by design, right,

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not negligence. There was nothing at Zoro Ranch to find.

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Jeffrey Epstein was just a sick dude who was diddling

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kids in New York every now and then. And they

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weren't even kids. They were seventeen, about to turn eighteen,

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ten more days or whatever nutty shit they're using this

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time to excuse their behavior. But the truth is, the government,

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whether by negligence, which I do not believe, or by design,

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never rated these properties and never collected the evidence that

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they should have collected. But veteran attorneys can tend that

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investigating Epstein's New Mexico activities nearly seven years after his

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arrest presents numerous logistical challenges. While the delay is all

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but certainly thwarted this important investigative avenue, the attorney said,

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there are still multiple avenues authorities could pursue to try

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and get justice. A search warrant would have to be

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based on in from that's not still somebody couldn't come

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in and say, hey, seven years ago, something happened and

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I just got around to telling you, said John Day,

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a New Mexico defense attorney and former prosecutor. Now it

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would have to be well, we just uncovered something about

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a crime that occurred seven years ago that we didn't

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know about until now, Like, why would you even need

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a warrant? If I own that property and I had

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just bought it and previously there was some wild shit

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going on, I'd be excavating it myself. I'm some rich dude.

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Oh yeah, forget it. There's no chance then I'm gonna

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let this slide. So why did they even need a warrant?

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Why won't Huffiens just let them come on the property

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and do what they got to do. If authorities presented

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a judge with an adequate reason why information just surfaced,

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Day said, then it's very likely they could get a

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search warrant if they could articulate facts about a crime,

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even if it's an old crime. But it can't be

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stale information. So I think there's some wiggle room there.

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They should be able to find some new information, right,

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shouldn't be that difficult. Plenty out there. Even if a

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search did happen, the delay likely means the value of

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anything that they can find would be minimal. Day said,

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you don't know what has happened between the time Epstein

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was last there and the time the new people bought it.

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So that's a problem on thousand percent. Any decent lawyer

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will say, how do you know my client is the

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one who left this shit here and it's not from

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the new tenants, And of course, how do you argue

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that right if they would have rated it, and they

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would add an inventory of the things they took and

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you know, video of what they saw, different story. But

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now I think this is all performative. Now it's a

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good thing, right, because you never know what kind of

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stone will get unturned. But I really don't think we're

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going to get to the bottom of anything seven years later,

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with the ranch potentially being fruitless as a source of evidence,

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Day said authorities would likely start with the human side,

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finding ranch employees, contractors, anybody local who might have had

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some contact with Zorro. Good idea, very good idea. They

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should have done this the first time around. If my

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dumbass is able to cultivate sources, they should be able

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to do the same thing. They have a bunch of detectives,

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a bunch of money. I'm just some moron, so there's

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no excuse for the state not to do a very

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thorough investigation. This could also include calling local news reports

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about parties held at Zoro to potentially yield more names

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and examine entries in Epstein's address book related to New Mexico,

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including women listed under a massage and the Clintons. Let's

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not forget them, and let's not forget that they lied

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about going to Zorro Ranch according to sources, so to

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make sure that they're part of that too. And again,

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just to be clear, I'm not saying that they were

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a part of Epstein's abuse, but I am saying that

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they lied and continue to lie about the relationship they

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had with Jeffrey Epstein. Kate Mangle's, a partner with the

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Kinsella Hollyeiser comp Stein's appear also noted that searching Zoro

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now would likely be a non starter. Certainly, the obvious

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answer is that it's better to search closer in time,

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Mangles said, particularly given that the property has changed hands,

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it's unlikely that they would find any forensic evidence. Well,

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unless there's some bodies there. That's a different story, right

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If there was bodies buried, like people are saying, then

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those bodies could still be there. The remains as far

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as the house goes, forget it. You're not getting anything

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out of that, I'm talking about a full forensic search

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of the property, every last inch of it bring out

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the dogs grid pattern. Unless rock That said, searching Zoro

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now could potentially bolster victim's accounts. If the layout of

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the house hasn't changed and they're saying I have a

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recollection of someone coming through the bathroom door on the

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left side of the room, and the search demonstrates that

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that's where it is, it gives more credence to that

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testimony of that victim. Mangle said, While important, that might

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be the limit of Zoro's utility at this point. If

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evidence were found and led to a prosecution, defense attorneys

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will argue that it shouldn't be included. Because of this delay,

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it may be hard to use those things other than

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maybe a structural description of the house, Mangle said. Those

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details are not evidence of a crime, but when you're

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dealing with victim testimony and there is another evidence, any

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corroboration can be helpful to prove that. It's unclear how

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any potential search could unfold. The new owner of Zoro Ranch,

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Texas Comptroller candidate Don Huffen's, said he would cooperate with authorities.

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According to the new York Times. The Guardian did not

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receive a response to an email and call to contact

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information listed to Huffen's campaign page. This lack of investigative

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activity on Zoro Ranch potentially takes on more urgency as

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newly disclosed Epstein files raised the specter of even darker crimes.

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Local radio host Eddie Aragon in twenty nineteen received an

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email from an unknown person alleging that two young women

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had been buried at the ranch and asked for one

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bitcoin in exchange for the information. Aragon, who said he

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had been discussing the ranch on his radio show at

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the time, told The Guardian in an interview on February

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fourth that he apprised federal authorities. I took it very seriously,

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Aragon said, and I forwarded it to the FBI. The

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recently disclosed documents do include an FBI report daated October

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twenty twenty one that included the email Aragon had received. Aragon,

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the report said, contacted federal authorities on November twenty fifth,

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twenty nineteen, to report an email he received offering seven

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videos of sexual abuse and the location of two foreign

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girls buried on Zoro Ranch. Well, let's trace that down,

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who sent the email, where did they send it from,

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Let's get crack, and what are we doing here? The

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delay also emphasizes missed opportunities identified by local authorities years ago.

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In spring of twenty nineteen, our office investigated activity in

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New Mexico that was still viable for prosecution, including contact

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with multiple victims, said Hector Balderis, New Mexico's Attorney General.

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When Epstein was arrested. During that time, the US Attorney's

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Office in New York asked us to pause any further

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state investigation or prosecution related to Epstein, informing US that

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they were already conducting an active multi jurisdictional prosecution. Baldera said,

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we shared all of our reports and interviews to ensure

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they had all investigative leads and respected their request or

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refrained from further parallel investigation. We kept the matter open,

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investigated Epstein's land leases, and continued offering our legal resources

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to the DOJ for further prosecution. They did not share

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information or evidence with us, as a relationship was a

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one way street. He also said, I mean, really, does

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anyone truly believe that this wasn't a fix, that the

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cover up hasn't been going on for years, while New

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Mexico authorities stepped back from an active investigation to make

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way for federal investigators. A December twenty nineteen email revealed

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that a federal prosecution told an attorney for one of

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Epstein's state co executors that they had not searched the

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New Mexico property bail. Duris also said that his office

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had asked federal authorities to use any available asset forfeiture

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tools to seize the ranch in twenty twenty two. As

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for comment on specifics about potential delay related roadblocks, the

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New Mexico Attorney General's office said, we expect to have

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additional information to share about our investigation as it continues

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to progress. A spokesperson for the state attorney general said

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a representative for the Truth Commission did not immediately respond

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to a request for comment. In an op ed on Friday,

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the New Mexico Attorney General, Roald Torres said we will

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work closely in coordination with federal and local law enforcement partners,

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as well as with the Epstein Truth Commission, recently established

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by the New Mexico Legislature, which has its own independent

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mandate to investigate these matters on behalf of the public.

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He also recognized there are real obstacles ahead, but that

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we will follow the evidence wherever it leads and leave

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no credible questions unexplored. The office of Stephanie Garcia Richard,

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new Mexican State Land Commissioner, provided more details about what

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has occurred in recent weeks. A spokesperson for Garcia Richard

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told The Guardian this week that the investigator from New

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Mexico's Department of Justice interviewed her and some land office

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leadership to learn more about how agricultural leases work, such

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as the leases Epstein's ranch held for more than twenty

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five years before she canceled them in twenty nineteen. The

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spokesperson added that the New Mexico Department of Justice sent

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a letter to the US Department of Justice requesting another

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version of the email that suggested two girls may have

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been buried at Zoro Ranch. New Mexico's DOJ has requested

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access to the portion of state land that is not landlocked,

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and Garcia Richard's office has granted it. Garcia Richard is

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encouraged to see New Mexico DOJ taking these proactive steps

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and remains ready to help however possible. The spokesperson added, well,

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look better late than never, right, Do I think this

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is going to garner anything. I don't. As far as

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the house goes, unfortunately, whatever evidence was there is already gone.

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Now the land, that's a different matter. But it all

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depends on how deep they go. Are they going to

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do a curse research where they just go walk around,

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or are they going to you know, dig the place

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up excavate it. And obviously I hope they go that

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route and they excavate it and they actually have a

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grid out here or real search to look for these

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remains if there's credible evidence of that. But short of that,

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I don't think we're gonna get much from Zoro Ranch.

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And unfortunately, in my opinion, it's all by design. All

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the information that goes with this episode can be found

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