Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. One of the most confounding and frustrating situations
when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein has to be what
happened at Zoro Ranch. And I'm not just talking about
the crimes, but the lack of interest from the government
when it comes to investigating the crimes that took place
at Zoro Ranch. And of course there's an investigation now,
and I give the State of New Mexico a lot
of credit for at least initiating it, But do we
really think it's going to lead to anything? The house
has already been knocked down, all the evidence is gone,
So what do we really think we're going to find now?
The caveat to that is, if there are buried bodies
on the property, maybe they can be found, you know,
cadaver dog shit like that. But the house itself, it
should have been rated when Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, and
I was going bananas about it at the time, like
how do you arrest somebody like Jeffrey Epstein and leave
one of his properties or multiple of his properties untouched?
And unfortunately it wasn't just the property in New Mexico.
We have properties in Colorado that were never searched either.
And you know, when you have people out here talking about, well,
this is just an old story. It's all been investigated.
The problem is it was never investigated properly. And that's
the biggest issue. If this has all been investigated and
there was a paper trail of that investigation and stuff
that we could look at and say, oh, you know what,
okay contemporaneously, this is what they were doing and this
is why. But there is none of that because there
was never an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and his criminal
behavior in New Mexico. And that was all by design.
And when I went down there and talked to the
people that you know, live around Zoro Ranch, the people
in Stanley, the people in Santa Fe, everybody knew something
goofy was going on down there. Everybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein,
and everybody knew that he was being protected. So hopefully
this new investigation at Zoro Ranch uncovers some new information
that leads to people being held accountable. But I wouldn't
hold my breath. Today we have an article from the
Guardian and the headline investigators are finally looking into Jeffrey
Epstein's New Mexico ranch. They may be too late. Maybe
too late. They are too late. And that's why I
went down there when I did, and I was raised
in hell. Nobody wanted to talk to me. Not the
local police, certainly, nobody at Jeffrey Epstein's ranch, nobody at
Santa Fe Institute. Nobody had anything to say. Now, if
the FEDS would have shown up, it would have been different, right,
subpoena power. You're not going to be able to just
be quiet. You're gonna get hemmed up. And look, I'm
not just pulling this out of my ass. Take a
look at how Diddy was treated when he was arrested.
Every property had rated, everything he owned taken, and not
only that, it was a gigantic spectacle. Right, news cameras
everywhere CNN tipped off. Not for Epstein, none of that occurred.
So my question once again is why, And after seven years,
I still have not received an acceptable answer. So until then,
I guess I'll just keep asking questions. This article was
authored by Victoria B. Kempis and Anna Beets. When Jeffrey
Epstein was arrested on July sixth twenty nineteen for sex
trafficking teenagers. New York federal prosecutors said the ultra wealthy
predator exploited and abused dozens underage girls in Manhattan and
Palm Beach, among other locations. Yeah, every location he ever
went to. If Jeffrey Epstein visited your country, chances are
somebody got abused. This is a man who needed to
have sex, what three times a day? So you really
think on these trips he wasn't fulfilling his needs. He
most certainly was. Why do you think these girls were
brought with him? One of those locations was the late
financier Pedophiles sprawling New Mexico property Epstein, so called Zoro Ranch,
came into sharper relief after his August tenth, twenty nineteen
death in jail awaiting trial, with criminal and civil proceedings
revealing the numerous alleged abuses that unfolded there. But Zoro
Ranch did not receive the same scrutiny as Epstein's other properties.
Of February eighth, Guardian investigation revealed that federal authorities apparently
never searched the property. There's no apparently they never did.
There was no raid of Jeffrey Epstein's Orro Ranch. Not apparently,
not allegedly. That's just what happened. The federal government decided
they had no interest in what was going on at
Zoro Ranch. I guess it was just more negligence, right,
just another oversight, just another coincidence. The US Department of
Justice recent disclosure of some three million investigative documents under
Congress Epstein File Transparency Act has renewed attention on Zoro Ranch. Now,
officials in New Mexico are investigating Epstein's activities there. The
Attorney General announced the state would reopen. There are twenty
nineteen investigation put on hold at federal prosecutor's request, and
state legislator has established a truth commission to look into
past activity at Epstein's ranch. Look all a good idea,
but too little, too late. We're never going to get
to the bottom of it now. Now. I'm sure that
there's going to be people that'll come forward and they'll
have some things to say, but the tangible evidence, the
put you in prison type of shit we need, we're
not going to find it now. The government and I'll
tell you that was you know, all by design, right,
not negligence. There was nothing at Zoro Ranch to find.
Jeffrey Epstein was just a sick dude who was diddling
kids in New York every now and then. And they
weren't even kids. They were seventeen, about to turn eighteen,
ten more days or whatever nutty shit they're using this
time to excuse their behavior. But the truth is, the government,
whether by negligence, which I do not believe, or by design,
never rated these properties and never collected the evidence that
they should have collected. But veteran attorneys can tend that
investigating Epstein's New Mexico activities nearly seven years after his
arrest presents numerous logistical challenges. While the delay is all
but certainly thwarted this important investigative avenue, the attorney said,
there are still multiple avenues authorities could pursue to try
and get justice. A search warrant would have to be
based on in from that's not still somebody couldn't come
in and say, hey, seven years ago, something happened and
I just got around to telling you, said John Day,
a New Mexico defense attorney and former prosecutor. Now it
would have to be well, we just uncovered something about
a crime that occurred seven years ago that we didn't
know about until now, Like, why would you even need
a warrant? If I own that property and I had
just bought it and previously there was some wild shit
going on, I'd be excavating it myself. I'm some rich dude.
Oh yeah, forget it. There's no chance then I'm gonna
let this slide. So why did they even need a warrant?
Why won't Huffiens just let them come on the property
and do what they got to do. If authorities presented
a judge with an adequate reason why information just surfaced,
Day said, then it's very likely they could get a
search warrant if they could articulate facts about a crime,
even if it's an old crime. But it can't be
stale information. So I think there's some wiggle room there.
They should be able to find some new information, right,
shouldn't be that difficult. Plenty out there. Even if a
search did happen, the delay likely means the value of
anything that they can find would be minimal. Day said,
you don't know what has happened between the time Epstein
was last there and the time the new people bought it.
So that's a problem on thousand percent. Any decent lawyer
will say, how do you know my client is the
one who left this shit here and it's not from
the new tenants, And of course, how do you argue
that right if they would have rated it, and they
would add an inventory of the things they took and
you know, video of what they saw, different story. But
now I think this is all performative. Now it's a
good thing, right, because you never know what kind of
stone will get unturned. But I really don't think we're
going to get to the bottom of anything seven years later,
with the ranch potentially being fruitless as a source of evidence,
Day said authorities would likely start with the human side,
finding ranch employees, contractors, anybody local who might have had
some contact with Zorro. Good idea, very good idea. They
should have done this the first time around. If my
dumbass is able to cultivate sources, they should be able
to do the same thing. They have a bunch of detectives,
a bunch of money. I'm just some moron, so there's
no excuse for the state not to do a very
thorough investigation. This could also include calling local news reports
about parties held at Zoro to potentially yield more names
and examine entries in Epstein's address book related to New Mexico,
including women listed under a massage and the Clintons. Let's
not forget them, and let's not forget that they lied
about going to Zorro Ranch according to sources, so to
make sure that they're part of that too. And again,
just to be clear, I'm not saying that they were
a part of Epstein's abuse, but I am saying that
they lied and continue to lie about the relationship they
had with Jeffrey Epstein. Kate Mangle's, a partner with the
Kinsella Hollyeiser comp Stein's appear also noted that searching Zoro
now would likely be a non starter. Certainly, the obvious
answer is that it's better to search closer in time,
Mangles said, particularly given that the property has changed hands,
it's unlikely that they would find any forensic evidence. Well,
unless there's some bodies there. That's a different story, right
If there was bodies buried, like people are saying, then
those bodies could still be there. The remains as far
as the house goes, forget it. You're not getting anything
out of that, I'm talking about a full forensic search
of the property, every last inch of it bring out
the dogs grid pattern. Unless rock That said, searching Zoro
now could potentially bolster victim's accounts. If the layout of
the house hasn't changed and they're saying I have a
recollection of someone coming through the bathroom door on the
left side of the room, and the search demonstrates that
that's where it is, it gives more credence to that
testimony of that victim. Mangle said, While important, that might
be the limit of Zoro's utility at this point. If
evidence were found and led to a prosecution, defense attorneys
will argue that it shouldn't be included. Because of this delay,
it may be hard to use those things other than
maybe a structural description of the house, Mangle said. Those
details are not evidence of a crime, but when you're
dealing with victim testimony and there is another evidence, any
corroboration can be helpful to prove that. It's unclear how
any potential search could unfold. The new owner of Zoro Ranch,
Texas Comptroller candidate Don Huffen's, said he would cooperate with authorities.
According to the new York Times. The Guardian did not
receive a response to an email and call to contact
information listed to Huffen's campaign page. This lack of investigative
activity on Zoro Ranch potentially takes on more urgency as
newly disclosed Epstein files raised the specter of even darker crimes.
Local radio host Eddie Aragon in twenty nineteen received an
email from an unknown person alleging that two young women
had been buried at the ranch and asked for one
bitcoin in exchange for the information. Aragon, who said he
had been discussing the ranch on his radio show at
the time, told The Guardian in an interview on February
fourth that he apprised federal authorities. I took it very seriously,
Aragon said, and I forwarded it to the FBI. The
recently disclosed documents do include an FBI report daated October
twenty twenty one that included the email Aragon had received. Aragon,
the report said, contacted federal authorities on November twenty fifth,
twenty nineteen, to report an email he received offering seven
videos of sexual abuse and the location of two foreign
girls buried on Zoro Ranch. Well, let's trace that down,
who sent the email, where did they send it from,
Let's get crack, and what are we doing here? The
delay also emphasizes missed opportunities identified by local authorities years ago.
In spring of twenty nineteen, our office investigated activity in
New Mexico that was still viable for prosecution, including contact
with multiple victims, said Hector Balderis, New Mexico's Attorney General.
When Epstein was arrested. During that time, the US Attorney's
Office in New York asked us to pause any further
state investigation or prosecution related to Epstein, informing US that
they were already conducting an active multi jurisdictional prosecution. Baldera said,
we shared all of our reports and interviews to ensure
they had all investigative leads and respected their request or
refrained from further parallel investigation. We kept the matter open,
investigated Epstein's land leases, and continued offering our legal resources
to the DOJ for further prosecution. They did not share
information or evidence with us, as a relationship was a
one way street. He also said, I mean, really, does
anyone truly believe that this wasn't a fix, that the
cover up hasn't been going on for years, while New
Mexico authorities stepped back from an active investigation to make
way for federal investigators. A December twenty nineteen email revealed
that a federal prosecution told an attorney for one of
Epstein's state co executors that they had not searched the
New Mexico property bail. Duris also said that his office
had asked federal authorities to use any available asset forfeiture
tools to seize the ranch in twenty twenty two. As
for comment on specifics about potential delay related roadblocks, the
New Mexico Attorney General's office said, we expect to have
additional information to share about our investigation as it continues
to progress. A spokesperson for the state attorney general said
a representative for the Truth Commission did not immediately respond
to a request for comment. In an op ed on Friday,
the New Mexico Attorney General, Roald Torres said we will
work closely in coordination with federal and local law enforcement partners,
as well as with the Epstein Truth Commission, recently established
by the New Mexico Legislature, which has its own independent
mandate to investigate these matters on behalf of the public.
He also recognized there are real obstacles ahead, but that
we will follow the evidence wherever it leads and leave
no credible questions unexplored. The office of Stephanie Garcia Richard,
new Mexican State Land Commissioner, provided more details about what
has occurred in recent weeks. A spokesperson for Garcia Richard
told The Guardian this week that the investigator from New
Mexico's Department of Justice interviewed her and some land office
leadership to learn more about how agricultural leases work, such
as the leases Epstein's ranch held for more than twenty
five years before she canceled them in twenty nineteen. The
spokesperson added that the New Mexico Department of Justice sent
a letter to the US Department of Justice requesting another
version of the email that suggested two girls may have
been buried at Zoro Ranch. New Mexico's DOJ has requested
access to the portion of state land that is not landlocked,
and Garcia Richard's office has granted it. Garcia Richard is
encouraged to see New Mexico DOJ taking these proactive steps
and remains ready to help however possible. The spokesperson added, well,
look better late than never, right, Do I think this
is going to garner anything. I don't. As far as
the house goes, unfortunately, whatever evidence was there is already gone.
Now the land, that's a different matter. But it all
depends on how deep they go. Are they going to
do a curse research where they just go walk around,
or are they going to you know, dig the place
up excavate it. And obviously I hope they go that
route and they excavate it and they actually have a
grid out here or real search to look for these
remains if there's credible evidence of that. But short of that,
I don't think we're gonna get much from Zoro Ranch.
And unfortunately, in my opinion, it's all by design. All
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