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Speaker 1: guest today speaking of Gusts, is the host of The
Speaker 1: Secret Teachings, author, researcher, veteran radio host, good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Ryan Gable. Welcome back to the show, my friend.
Speaker 2: Hey Ryder, Thanks for having me back. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Well, we're talking planes, trains and automobiles here today, Ryan,
Speaker 1: because it is getting really strange, really weird. Did you
Speaker 1: see this the navy? The Mexican Navy ship last week?
Speaker 3: Yes, I did too.
Speaker 1: Dead after ship strikes the Brooklyn Bridge. Snappy mass and
Speaker 1: injuring crew members. And this was a Mexican n Evil
Speaker 1: sailing ship, which that just you know, hit me because
Speaker 1: I'm like, did this did we not have almost the
Speaker 1: identical thing just happened like last year, which was the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Bridge whenever the ship supposedly lost power, and well
Speaker 1: the CNN is reporting the lost power twice before the
Speaker 1: crash and then it collapsed the Baltimore Bridge. Like, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with these ships and these vessels? And if
Speaker 1: you take it back even further, okay, if you go
Speaker 1: back to around the beginning of twenty twenty in the Evergreen,
Speaker 1: do you remember the Evergreen ship that was stuck in
Speaker 1: the canal for like over a month, the cargo ship.
Speaker 2: I recall that to a very small degree that that
Speaker 2: particular story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a really big deal whenever it happened,
Speaker 1: because nobody could figure out how the ship got stuck
Speaker 1: in the canal and it was a huge cargo ship.
Speaker 1: And this was like around the time that you know,
Speaker 1: during twenty twenty when all of the cargo ships were
Speaker 1: just lined up in Long Beach in California because they
Speaker 1: said that there wasn't enough people to process all of
Speaker 1: the food. I don't know if you remember any of this,
Speaker 1: but I remember it because I went to the beach
Speaker 1: in Long Beach during this period of time and there
Speaker 1: was like thirty cargo ships that was just placed out
Speaker 1: there for like a month. They didn't move, just like
Speaker 1: right off the coast there in southern California. And then
Speaker 1: this Evergreen ship. It's just so weird. And then you
Speaker 1: have the the submarine explosion going down to see the Titanic,
Speaker 1: and we haven't even got into the train deralments and
Speaker 1: the plane crashes and the helicopter crashes. Yet it's just
Speaker 1: so strange. It seems like that they're trying to hit
Speaker 1: every mode of transportation here, Ryan, And I'm interested to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it, because I know that you've
Speaker 1: covered a lot of this, that you've been doing this
Speaker 1: for a really long time, and you normally cover these
Speaker 1: types of events, but whenever you kind of line them
Speaker 1: all up, it seems like since twenty twenty, we've had
Speaker 1: more accidents, more helicopter crashes, more plane crashes, more boat accidents.
Speaker 1: Then it seems like that we've ever had before. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe someone could say, oh, well, they just it's always
Speaker 1: been happening like this, they just haven't reported it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Well, I like to look at all of the different angles.
Speaker 2: So certainly that's the most common story, is that it's
Speaker 2: all sort of random and that there's no conspiracy, and
Speaker 2: that there's no pattern. It's just happening and that's how
Speaker 2: things are. Then there's the opposite extreme, which is that
Speaker 2: there's some shadowy cabal that is orchestrating all of this.
Speaker 2: Even when we're talking about very small planes, private jets
Speaker 2: that might crash. We're talking about small boats as well
Speaker 2: as big boats and big planes, and trains as well,
Speaker 2: and automobiles and everything else. That's the opposite extreme, that
Speaker 2: there's some giant conspiracy. I don't really buy either. And
Speaker 2: I don't really like this theme or this motif on
Speaker 2: social media where you see the I think it's a
Speaker 2: hashtag even that says they don't want us to fly
Speaker 2: or they don't want us to travel, and how that
Speaker 2: has something to do with plane crashes and train derailments
Speaker 2: and whatnot. It's one of those things for me anyway,
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I feel like is
Speaker 2: a kind of rhetoric. It's a form of Frankly, I
Speaker 2: think it's a form of propaganda, and I think the
Speaker 2: algorithm drives that. And I think when you believe either
Speaker 2: one of those extremes, not that there might not be
Speaker 2: something suspicious going on in one case of one case
Speaker 2: or another, but when you believe one of those two extremes,
Speaker 2: you don't ask questions or consider additional evidence. And I'll
Speaker 2: give you an example of what I mean. There's no
Speaker 2: doubt that the Baltimore Bridge incident or the Francis Scott
Speaker 2: Key Bridge incident was not just a big incident because
Speaker 2: of the size of the boat and the bridge and
Speaker 2: the complexity of rebuilding something like that, but also because
Speaker 2: of the timing of it, and because of the relationship
Speaker 2: that that incident had with what occurred a couple of
Speaker 2: days later, and that was the partial eclipse. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you remember the partial solar eclipse, so that took place
Speaker 2: within the same what ten day window, and some that
Speaker 2: seems unrelated, but is I think a part of what
Speaker 2: could be considered a cult or Charles fourteen pattern here
Speaker 2: is that the eclipse involved NASA performing what was openly
Speaker 2: admitted to be a scientific ritual where they fired rockets
Speaker 2: with sensors and other components into the eclipse, essentially into
Speaker 2: the eclipse, into that direction of the sky during the
Speaker 2: eclipse to gather data, and they called it a pep,
Speaker 2: and a pep in the mythology, was a serpent that encompasses,
Speaker 2: that coils around the barge or the boat of raw
Speaker 2: the sun god in the sky, and pep is the
Speaker 2: serpent that consumes the sun that's what causes the eclipse.
Speaker 2: It's a story that represents a natural phenomena. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's not literally a serpent, and that to me is
Speaker 2: a very occult underlying themes that you have this bridge collapse,
Speaker 2: you have this material the bridge wrapped around this barge,
Speaker 2: and then a couple of days later you have the
Speaker 2: apep ritual, the science experiment by NASA, And in the
Speaker 2: mythology it is a pep that wraps himself around the barge.
Speaker 2: So to me, that's an interesting story and to me
Speaker 2: that is a perhaps occult pattern. But I will also
Speaker 2: say that if we're going to look at the statistical
Speaker 2: data from twenty and twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, not so much for twenty twenty five, but
Speaker 2: both in the United States and then also internationally, plane
Speaker 2: incidents are actually statistically down. In twenty twenty three it
Speaker 2: was point eighty per one point two six million flights,
Speaker 2: which was an all around approvement from one point thirty
Speaker 2: out of one point two six million flights, So overall
Speaker 2: there have actually been less plane crashes. The fatality risk
Speaker 2: when there is a plane crash has also improved substantially
Speaker 2: from point eleven out of the same number of crashes
Speaker 2: to point zero three out of the same number one
Speaker 2: point twenty six million, So you have less crashes internationally
Speaker 2: that includes the US, it's global, and you have less
Speaker 2: fatalities when there is an incident. Of course, you have
Speaker 2: different definitions between crashes, accidents, incidents, etc. There's different definitions
Speaker 2: of these things. But overall, the global airline rates of crash,
Speaker 2: the rates of people being injured or dying, and even
Speaker 2: departure accident rates have plummeted. Departure accident rates have plummeted
Speaker 2: from two point nine for per million in twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: to one point eight seven as of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: So everything is technically statistically stafer, less prone to disaster,
Speaker 2: less prone to people dying less prone to there being
Speaker 2: accidents that might not destroy a plane or kill people,
Speaker 2: but you know, maybe cripples an airline.
Speaker 3: Or delays flights.
Speaker 2: These things are actually statistically happening less often. Now, with
Speaker 2: that being said, that's global, and if you looked in
Speaker 2: the United States, you look at the statistical data here,
Speaker 2: it's about the same. It's not really anymore or any less. However,
Speaker 2: you can create the image by focusing the cameras and
Speaker 2: the pins and the radios on those crashes or those
Speaker 2: plane incidents or aviation incidents, or the train derailments or
Speaker 2: the boat incidents. And you can do that intentionally or
Speaker 2: it becomes a byproduct of the algorithm. If you go
Speaker 2: to social media, as you and your whole audience knows.
Speaker 2: If you're listening here on YouTube right now, and you
Speaker 2: type something in video games, maybe look up GTA six
Speaker 2: and you watch a couple of videos. Obviously, the next
Speaker 2: time you get on YouTube, it's going to recommend other
Speaker 2: game videos. And when you start to see a boat
Speaker 2: incident here, you see a plane crash there, what do
Speaker 2: you think the algorithm is going to show you. It's
Speaker 2: going to show you more boat incidents, more plane crashes,
Speaker 2: things that you might not otherwise see. If there wasn't
Speaker 2: that naval ship that hit the bridge, or if there
Speaker 2: wasn't a plane that crashed into San Diego killing the
Speaker 2: music executive I think his name was Dave Shapiro, if
Speaker 2: there wasn't these high profile cases that just might kind
Speaker 2: of fall into the news cycle. And if you're offered
Speaker 2: five news stories and one of them is about plane crashes,
Speaker 2: one of them is about dogs, and one of them's
Speaker 2: about something else, and people watch and listen and click
Speaker 2: on and comment and whatnot on the plane crash, Well,
Speaker 2: that's what the outlets are going to recognize as that's popular.
Speaker 2: That's what people want to see and hear, and so
Speaker 2: they're going to report more about that. And in fact,
Speaker 2: I mean I went to film school and we had
Speaker 2: a whole class on how we had I think we
Speaker 2: had a thirty five millimeter class, which was more so filmed,
Speaker 2: but we had a film class specifically for radio and TV,
Speaker 2: more so for TV, but production like production in a studio,
Speaker 2: and we went through the professional you know, daily steps
Speaker 2: of how they sit together in a room and they
Speaker 2: get the hand out from the main office and they
Speaker 2: give a list of things that they want to cover,
Speaker 2: sometimes based on advertisers, sometimes based on what the I
Speaker 2: guess the head corporate boss is telling them to cover,
Speaker 2: and then they just distribute that out to all of
Speaker 2: the different outlets. So you might sit down one day
Speaker 2: and they give you a paper that says, today's the
Speaker 2: big issue is playing crashes. Tomorrow, the big issue is
Speaker 2: the ditty scandal tomorrow. The day after that rather is
Speaker 2: going to be you know, Epstein, The day after that's
Speaker 2: going to be you know, cute puppy dogs. And so
Speaker 2: at some level, you can obviously artificially create a narrative.
Speaker 2: In other ways it's just about revenue and profit, and
Speaker 2: in other ways it's just people that I think are
Speaker 2: quite frankly delusional to think that there's nothing ever suspicious,
Speaker 2: and then to think that everything is so suspicious that
Speaker 2: there's some grand conspiracy. I think the truth is somewhere
Speaker 2: in the middle, and I think it's important to take
Speaker 2: these things on a case by case basis. Again, there's
Speaker 2: last thing, but there's no doubt that the plane crash
Speaker 2: with the helicopter was suspicious, and in fact, I don't
Speaker 2: think that that was an accident. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that I think everything else is also intentional or not
Speaker 2: an accident, or is an accident or does it Just
Speaker 2: because I believe one thing doesn't mean that I have
Speaker 2: to believe all the other things. We should be taking
Speaker 2: things on a case by case basis and looking at
Speaker 2: the statistical data. And I should add one more thing.
Speaker 2: I think you'll appreciate this writer. You know, I've there's
Speaker 2: a couple of people on x big accounts who have
Speaker 2: posted things like this. They don't want you to fly,
Speaker 2: this is what's happening. And then I'll post the federal
Speaker 2: statistics about plane crashes, and these people will block me
Speaker 2: or they'll attack me and say that you don't want
Speaker 2: the truth, and I'm sitting there looking at it's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is the statistical It shows the plane crashes, statistical
Speaker 2: clear down. What this person is doing is profiting in
Speaker 2: the same way that the mainstream news is profiting by
Speaker 2: pushing those stories. And the mainstream news has no there's
Speaker 2: no underlying conspiracy. It's just a horrible plane crash, and
Speaker 2: that gets attention. People want to watch that and click
Speaker 2: on it. It's morbid. And then the people like say
Speaker 2: concerned citizen for example, an X a person and I
Speaker 2: do not get along because every time they post some
Speaker 2: nonsense like there's fog everywhere and it's killing people, it's
Speaker 2: all over the world, and then I like, I'm in
Speaker 2: the place where they say the fog is and there's
Speaker 2: no fog, and then I say that to the person,
Speaker 2: and then that they have an issue with it. It's
Speaker 2: like they're just profiteers. So I think we need to
Speaker 2: be a little more.
Speaker 1: I almost forgot about the fog. Dude. There was like
Speaker 1: three of them, Like there was back to back to back.
Speaker 1: It was the solar eclipse is going to turn everyone
Speaker 1: into zombies. The emergency broadcast signal was going to turn
Speaker 1: everybody into zombies. The fog was then getting everybody's It
Speaker 1: was like three things like that all happened in a
Speaker 1: very short amount of time, and like none of them
Speaker 1: ended up happening. And that's what I was, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, I'm like, Okay, well, it's probably not
Speaker 1: that these things are happening more, just like what you mentioned,
Speaker 1: they're not happening more. They're just being reported on more,
Speaker 1: like they're getting more attention, they're being put out there more.
Speaker 1: Is kind of like that. I think it was Marilyn
Speaker 1: Manson that said one time that you know, violence and
Speaker 1: hate has always been there, it's just being more televised now.
Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense when when you
Speaker 1: take it into consideration, like all of these different things,
Speaker 1: it's being pushed out more, it's being propagandized more. And
Speaker 1: but I don't know what the reason is for that.
Speaker 1: It's not like there isn't enough things going on, but
Speaker 1: we do have like a twenty four hour type of
Speaker 1: news cycle. So I guess there's only so many stories
Speaker 1: that you can do on puppy dogs and the war
Speaker 1: and Iran and the war in Iran, sorry, and Ukraine
Speaker 1: and the war in Israel. There's only so much you
Speaker 1: can do on that kind of stuff, so you got
Speaker 1: to kind of throw some other things in there. But
Speaker 1: the one that happened last week was really interesting. I
Speaker 1: just the San Diego fire, San Diego plane crash, Who died,
Speaker 1: who was injured, everything we know so far. This is
Speaker 1: a plane that this was a small passenger plane that
Speaker 1: just crashed in a residential neighborhood. Okay, it is really interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think that this video that
Speaker 1: we're watching right now even shows like the devastation that
Speaker 1: happened to this neighborhood. But there were six people on it.
Speaker 1: It was a small little plane and they all died.
Speaker 1: So local and federal officials continue to probe a fatal
Speaker 1: May twenty second plane crash and the military housing neighborhood
Speaker 1: in San Diego also it was in a military housing neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And one of the people on board, if we're talking
Speaker 2: about the same crash, his name was Dave Shapiro. He
Speaker 2: was a big time music executive for Sound Talent Group.
Speaker 2: I think it was the co founder of Sound Talent Group. Yes,
Speaker 2: that I mean when there's a big name involved, that
Speaker 2: is ripe for conspiracy because maybe the guy was going
Speaker 2: to unveil something about child trafficking in Hollywood, and so
Speaker 2: they took the plane down. And it's much easier to
Speaker 2: just create that narrative and to sell that than it
Speaker 2: is to recognize that plane crashes happen all the time
Speaker 2: and that people die all the time, and that unless
Speaker 2: we know who the person is, unless they're running some
Speaker 2: big company, normally we don't care, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: like with the United Healthcare CEO. People get shot in
Speaker 2: Chicago and New York and Los Angeles and Baltimore every
Speaker 2: single freaking day.
Speaker 1: Oh, Chicago has the highest crime rate, in the highest
Speaker 1: rate of fatalities in shootings that are going unreported than
Speaker 1: anywhere in the United States.
Speaker 2: A lot of shootings, but one person. In fact, I
Speaker 2: think I don't necessarily agree with the philosophy that anarchists philosophy.
Speaker 2: But there's a really great line in the movie. I
Speaker 2: think it was the second you know, it was the
Speaker 2: second Batman movie from Christopher Nolan with The Joker, with
Speaker 2: Heath Ledger, and he said, nobody panics when things go
Speaker 2: according to plan. If I say that tomorrow a truck
Speaker 2: full of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics because
Speaker 2: that's all part of the plan. But if I say
Speaker 2: that one mayor will die, then everybody loses their minds.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we're talking about. One person United
Speaker 2: Healthcare shooter. Healthcare shooter has become a hero because he
Speaker 2: killed somebody. We've turned them into a cultural hero, a
Speaker 2: political hero, an economic hero. And the same thing with
Speaker 2: these plane crashes or with the train derailments. There are
Speaker 2: people that take these and they and they profit off
Speaker 2: of it. And I don't that, but again that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that I don't think that there couldn't be something
Speaker 2: suspicious in some cases, like the med jet that crashed
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, that was really suspicious because reportedly there was
Speaker 2: somebody on board. It was a medical plane. Somebody on board.
Speaker 2: I think it was a little girl and she was
Speaker 2: her family was a drug cartel, and they think that
Speaker 2: the drug cartel took the plane down, or rival drug cartel.
Speaker 2: I had read that. I don't know if that's completely
Speaker 2: accurate or confirmed, but I mean that's that's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: If you want a conspiracy, that's a conspiracy conspiring to
Speaker 2: take a plane down and kill a child to get
Speaker 2: back at some somebody in the drug cartel industry. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty big conspiracy. In the same way
Speaker 2: that you know what happened with the Francis Scott key
Speaker 2: Bridge and the Eclipse and the NASA pet program that
Speaker 2: all went together really well. But again, there are things
Speaker 2: like this that happen all the time, and that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that there's some grand conspiracy to them. We have
Speaker 2: to look at these things on a case by case
Speaker 2: basis and be a little bit more realistic about conspiracies
Speaker 2: and about stuff that just happens naturally.
Speaker 1: I think that it was a UFO that took that
Speaker 1: plane down in Philadelphia Row.
Speaker 2: That's what makes you a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: The is the five point fifty slammed in the San
Speaker 1: Diego Murphy's Canyon neighborhood early Wednesday morning of the twenty
Speaker 1: second May twenty second, sparking more than a dozen in
Speaker 1: nearby car and house fires, sending plumes of smoke skyward.
Speaker 1: According to the information from the Federal Aviation Administration, National
Speaker 1: Transportation Safety Board and San Diego Police and officials, emergency
Speaker 1: personnel immediately responded to the scene, extinguishing multiple fires and
Speaker 1: assisting residents with evacusations. Police set According to the FAA,
Speaker 1: six people who were on board the the private jet
Speaker 1: at the time of the incident, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: say that the reason that it crashed because it was
Speaker 1: super folgy. Now, if you remember, that's the same thing
Speaker 1: that they said with the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash that
Speaker 1: happened in what was that January of twenty twenty From
Speaker 1: Business Insider, this timeline shows everything we know and what
Speaker 1: we don't about the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: his daughter, and eight other people. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: they blamed the helicopter crash accident that killed all those
Speaker 1: people and killed Kobe Bryant on the fog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there were strange things about the Kobe Bryant
Speaker 2: crash because of the commercial that he was in with
Speaker 2: the helicopter that explodes because of the bomb.
Speaker 1: Is crashed into a hillside after flying in heavy fog
Speaker 1: conditions at about nine forty five am local time. It's
Speaker 1: the fog. It's the creepy frog. We were just talking
Speaker 1: about the fog that makes everybody sick.
Speaker 3: It's the killer fog.
Speaker 2: Bro it crashes planes. I mean that that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff does happen. As a matter of fact, I wanted
Speaker 2: to mention one other thing about Kobe Bryant. The cartoon
Speaker 2: that showed the plane the helicopter crash in him with
Speaker 2: the trophies seemed to kind of predict his death along
Speaker 2: with that other commercial. But if we're talking about fog,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you recall this. You're from West Virginia.
Speaker 2: I'm from Florida, and I I remember as a kid
Speaker 2: learning about the Sunshine Skyway Bridge collapse back in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard about that incident, this massive bridge
Speaker 2: that collapsed.
Speaker 1: Was that in Washington? No?
Speaker 2: No, it was in Florida. No, I hadn't heard, so
Speaker 2: I think it's where's the Sunshine Skyway southern Saint Pete.
Speaker 2: It's south of Saint Pete Beach. So if you look
Speaker 2: on a map or if you type into the computer,
Speaker 2: Sunshine Skyway Bridge collapse. The story was when I was
Speaker 2: a kid, and it was terrified people that there were.
Speaker 2: It was early morning and there were people on the
Speaker 2: bridge and it was really foggy, and there were buses
Speaker 2: of children going to school, or at least one bus
Speaker 2: of kids going to school, and cars, and this big
Speaker 2: boat takes out the support column and the fog. Some
Speaker 2: said the person was drunk, others said something different, and
Speaker 2: the cars plummeted into the water. Bus plummeted into the water.
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up hearing that story and how
Speaker 2: scary it was. And there's a lot of bridges in Florida,
Speaker 2: especially if you lived in Saint Pete, which is a peninsula,
Speaker 2: and then we lived on near the beach, so the
Speaker 2: beach is like artifice. Some of its artificial land built
Speaker 2: into the water. So it's like a peninsula on a peninsula.
Speaker 2: On Florida itself. As a peninsula, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: bridges everywhere you go down there. It was always scary
Speaker 2: to me because we heard these stories of the bridge,
Speaker 2: the Big Bridge collapsed in the eighties. The thing is, though,
Speaker 2: when that bridge collapsed in the eighties, in fact, kind
Speaker 2: of like your big story in West Virginia, the Silver
Speaker 2: Bridge of Offman story. And they blame that on a
Speaker 2: what was it a bolt or a supporting component malfunction. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty three I think was the number
Speaker 2: of it that malfunctioned. Same kind of a thing with
Speaker 2: this bridge. In this case, we had a boat that
Speaker 2: strikes it in the fog and these cars collapse, and
Speaker 2: they say that was the main reason. And when they
Speaker 2: rebuilt the bridge, they rebuilt it, i think in the
Speaker 2: late eighties with much better support, supporting structure, or much
Speaker 2: better engineering and hopefully to even be able to withstand
Speaker 2: an accident like that. So even though it's a horrible
Speaker 2: thing that happens, and it happened because of fog and
Speaker 2: maybe the person was drunk, I don't know the whole story,
Speaker 2: for sure, I've heard every angle of it, having lived
Speaker 2: in Florida most of my life. But regardless of what happened,
Speaker 2: the results can actually be positive because they built a
Speaker 2: better bridge and it's able to withstand, you know, those
Speaker 2: kinds of accidents at least to some degree, in the
Speaker 2: same way that when there's massive earthquakes here in Japan.
Speaker 2: Japan's probably the most in Tokyo specifically, it's the most
Speaker 2: prepared city for earthquakes in the world. They have the
Speaker 2: most advanced earthquake warning systems and preparation for those kinds
Speaker 2: of things to happen. So like something positive can come
Speaker 2: out of something very negative. That's I think a side note,
Speaker 2: but I think it's important to look at the story
Speaker 2: because this.
Speaker 3: Was in the eighties.
Speaker 2: There was fog and the boat hit the bridge, and
Speaker 2: guess what didn't happen in the eighties. There weren't a
Speaker 2: bunch of people on their phones sharing memes and videos
Speaker 2: and pictures and audio things that are made up, things
Speaker 2: that are not made up, and spreading conspiracies about how
Speaker 2: the Illuminati took out the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. There just
Speaker 2: wasn't the platform for that, and today everything that happens
Speaker 2: is that kind of a story. And I think that
Speaker 2: that contrast between the eighties and how the Sunshine Skyway incident,
Speaker 2: I mean, it scared people, but how it was handled
Speaker 2: as opposed to how things are handled today is a
Speaker 2: massive contrast difference. Back then, you didn't really have the
Speaker 2: kind of media you have today. Today we have too
Speaker 2: much media, and back then people didn't really think that
Speaker 2: everything was a conspiracy in the same way that they
Speaker 2: do today. So I just think that there needs to
Speaker 2: be balance, and I think that there needs to be
Speaker 2: more objectivity about this stuff.
Speaker 1: Writer, Okay, so this article is really confusing. It says
Speaker 1: up here at the top, six people died. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess it doesn't say six people died. Somewhere. I thought
Speaker 1: that this six people died. Did I not read that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read that.
Speaker 2: I have an AP article like I just sent you
Speaker 2: over in the private chat.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, these headlines are saying that six people died,
Speaker 1: and then down here it's saying that only two people died.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe it's two people that the two people
Speaker 2: survived the crash and then die later, or is it
Speaker 2: just say.
Speaker 1: Thart officials have confirmed at least two fatalities in the crash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the article I have says six.
Speaker 2: That's another problem is that these places like the USA
Speaker 2: Today or AP or whatever it is, they want to
Speaker 2: report asap, they want to report first, and so they
Speaker 2: just report whatever, and then these stories end up changing
Speaker 2: because they don't have accurate information, kind of like that
Speaker 2: prison break in Louisiana, that prison break in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I heard ten, I heard eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the same thing. I've seen that as I
Speaker 1: was doing the show, As I was talking about it
Speaker 1: with one the other day, I was like, it says ten,
Speaker 1: and then other ones say eleven, Like, which is it?
Speaker 1: Why can they not get there? Why can they not
Speaker 1: be accurate in their reporting? It makes zero sense all
Speaker 1: especially ten people escaped, eleven people escape? Which is it?
Speaker 1: How many people died in this? Was it six people
Speaker 1: died in the prane crash? Or was it two people
Speaker 1: that died in the plane crash? But some talent group
Speaker 1: music agency co founded by Dave Shapiro, confirmed the death
Speaker 1: of the forty two year old talent agent in the
Speaker 1: statement of the USA Today. Shapiro self identified. So I
Speaker 1: guess they're saying that Shapiro was piloting the plane and
Speaker 1: he's self identified as an airport helicopter pilot, so he
Speaker 1: wasn't even a registered helicopter an air like a plane pilot.
Speaker 1: What are they trying to say in this article? That
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Oh well yeah, as long as
Speaker 1: I identify as a helicopter an airplane pilot, then that
Speaker 1: makes me an airplane pilot.
Speaker 3: Makes zero sense on his Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's open up the Instagram page. Just take a
Speaker 1: little gander at this bad boy airplane helicopter pilot. So
Speaker 1: he's a music agent and he doubles as an airplane helicopter.
Speaker 3: Pilot, self identifying, self identifying. That's what you want.
Speaker 2: You want a pilot who does don't have any credentials,
Speaker 2: but they identify as a pilot.
Speaker 1: Two other Sound Talent employees were also killed in the crash,
Speaker 1: including Daniel Williams thirty nine. You played drums for the
Speaker 1: Devil Wars product for the band from two thousand and
Speaker 1: five inception until twenty and sixteen. I like the Devil
Speaker 1: Wars product.
Speaker 2: Did any of them any of them live in Laurel Canyon?
Speaker 1: No, they were all from Ohio. People magazine reported that
Speaker 1: Williams had posted images of the plane in his cockpit
Speaker 1: before the crash. The Metalcore band played pay tribute to
Speaker 1: Williams and Shapiro in an emotional May twenty second post
Speaker 1: shared on social media. Okay, how many people were on board?
Speaker 1: At least six people, including Shapiro and Williams, were on
Speaker 1: board the plane when it went down. FAA official side.
Speaker 1: As of May twenty third, the identities of the other
Speaker 1: passengers were not immediately known. Officials had not released the
Speaker 1: who the plane.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's why they said two people died. They
Speaker 2: haven't confirmed the identities of the others.
Speaker 1: Well, they're also saying that there was a recording it
Speaker 1: like a black box. Okay, the jet all and I
Speaker 1: guess not. The jet was not equipped with a flight
Speaker 1: data recorder, he said. Investigators are working to determine whether
Speaker 1: the craft had a cockpit voice recorder or whether it's
Speaker 1: engine had a flight recording ability.
Speaker 2: It's kind of ironic that you have recording executates on
Speaker 2: a plane that doesn't have recorder.
Speaker 1: Coincidence, coincidence. Okay, let's look at this MSN article that
Speaker 1: you just said.
Speaker 3: This one says six at the top for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go over here. Where's the MSN? It has
Speaker 1: brought it over. I guess I gotta get rid of
Speaker 1: the screen share in order to be able to share.
Speaker 1: This thing is wacky. Okay, present chot screen what we
Speaker 1: know about the San Diego plane crash and the sixth
Speaker 1: on board who died? Okay? This shows a little bit
Speaker 1: more of the devastation there. Okay, killing six people on
Speaker 1: board and including groundbreaking alternative music executive Dave Shapiro. Is
Speaker 1: he related to Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 2: He's related to the star of David I would assume.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The crash stunned the heavy metal and rock scene
Speaker 1: as it grew out of the punk movement. The music agency,
Speaker 1: the Shapiro co founded Sound Talent Group represented groups like Pierceville,
Speaker 1: Parkway Drive, Some forty one and also venturing into more
Speaker 1: pop acts, which is Vanessa Carlton That's wanted to Drive too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if anybody in the plane lived in
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. A lot of the metalcore bands
Speaker 1: all came out of like Ohio, A large percentage of them.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about the music executives.
Speaker 1: Though, oh yeah, probably, Yeah, this is a lot of devastation. Bro,
Speaker 1: looks like this whole neighborhood was just wrecked.
Speaker 2: It set fire to I think it set fifteen homes,
Speaker 2: sixteen homes, I'd read, although who knows fifteen twelve, eleven,
Speaker 2: one hundred, who knows. There's always a counting problem when
Speaker 2: these stories happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't even get their reporting accurate. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: The Federal Aviation Administration posted that an official notice that
Speaker 1: the airport's runway lights were out. A pilot did not
Speaker 1: discuss that with the controller, but did say that you
Speaker 1: knew it's whether alert systems were not working. Doesn't sound great,
Speaker 1: but we'll give it a go. Okay, Yeah, let's just
Speaker 1: you know, take this plane up without any of the
Speaker 1: runway lights on and without our weather control systems operating properly.
Speaker 3: Let's see that's going to go.
Speaker 2: If the guy just self identified as a pilot and
Speaker 2: there were conditions like that, then it makes sense that
Speaker 2: the plane probably didn't have a good chance of making
Speaker 2: it back down. If you don't have someone who's experience
Speaker 2: and knows what they're doing, if you don't have runway
Speaker 2: lights and if you're not necessarily sure how to I
Speaker 2: guess work the machine even when there are appropriate conditions
Speaker 2: and there's a pretty good chance you're gonna crash or
Speaker 2: something bad's going to happen. I don't think that that's
Speaker 2: part of a grander conspiracy.
Speaker 1: And here it is. The fog was so thick around
Speaker 1: the time of the crash you could barely see in
Speaker 1: front of you. That was the assistant San Diego Fire
Speaker 1: Department chief that made that comment. But this brings up
Speaker 1: another one that says the dudleiest US had its dudleiest
Speaker 1: plane crashing more than twenty three years in January, when
Speaker 1: the American Airlines passenger jet in an army helicopter collided
Speaker 1: in Washington in all sixty seven people aboard the two aircraft.
Speaker 1: That was a pretty weird one.
Speaker 3: That one I don't always extend.
Speaker 1: YEP. Last month, the sightseeing helicopter broke apart and crashed
Speaker 1: into the Hudson River. That was another really strange one.
Speaker 1: In early February, a small commuter plane crash in western Alaska,
Speaker 1: killing ten people aboard. Okay, but then here's the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: one that you were just mentioning. It's kind of weird. Dude,
Speaker 1: it's weird. I mean again, we know we just went
Speaker 1: over that. You know, crashes are down, there's nice, there's
Speaker 1: just as many crashes as there's always been in less fatalities.
Speaker 1: But it's like.
Speaker 2: Reporting, directionalizing of the public's attention to something like that.
Speaker 2: And it could be done for the same reason that
Speaker 2: the ultra extremist conspiracy theorists believe it's being done for.
Speaker 2: They believe that these planes or trains or whatever the
Speaker 2: case is are being intentionally crashed and people are being
Speaker 2: intentionally killed in order to convince the public not to
Speaker 2: fly or not to take modes of transportation. But you
Speaker 2: can do that by just exploiting accidents which are normal
Speaker 2: and are actually statistically down stuff that happens all the time.
Speaker 2: You can exploit that and create a narrative around it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what's happening, created a narrative to convince you
Speaker 2: that things are really, really bad when they're not really
Speaker 2: that bad. That's the problem with everything in the media.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2: I did a show Friday Night about the Real ID,
Speaker 2: which has been in the work since too on thousand
Speaker 2: and five, and it finally has been implemented at airports
Speaker 2: as of May seventh, and it's supposed to be your
Speaker 2: only identification. If you don't have it, then you have
Speaker 2: to have a passport or tribal ID to get through
Speaker 2: security at the airport. And they tell people that you're
Speaker 2: not going to be able to fly you have to
Speaker 2: have it. That's what the media says. But if you
Speaker 2: listen to what Christy Noam, the DHS Secretary says, or
Speaker 2: if you read the press release from the TSA, they
Speaker 2: actually say that you'll still be able to fly even
Speaker 2: if you don't have a real ID. You'll just maybe
Speaker 2: be subject to additional screening, maybe have to get in
Speaker 2: the second line, but you'll still be able to fly.
Speaker 2: But the narrative that the media created around the real
Speaker 2: ID is totally contrary to that. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: with masks, even if the governor's ordered during the pandemic
Speaker 2: said you don't actually have to wear it, or if
Speaker 2: you call the Health Department and say can they enforce
Speaker 2: this and the Health Department says no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 2: on a law. You can't inform, you can't force people
Speaker 2: to do that. It's all voluntary. It's a recommendation. Try
Speaker 2: arguing with Walmart reader, Try arguing with your manager at work.
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of a thing with these plane crashes.
Speaker 2: Even if you can try to explain what's happening and
Speaker 2: it's logical and makes sense, try explaining that to someone
Speaker 2: who's hell bent on selling a narrative, whether it's that
Speaker 2: nothing's happening or that everything's happening and the illuminatis involved.
Speaker 2: I think people have just lost their collective damn minds
Speaker 2: across the board. I think that the public has been
Speaker 2: so brainwashed by propaganda and so misled by this and
Speaker 2: misinformation that nobody knows what to think, nobody knows how
Speaker 2: to think, and so they just choose whatever fantasy world
Speaker 2: is appealing to them, and that's where they choose to
Speaker 2: invest their energy. I mean, that's, frankly, just my opinion
Speaker 2: on the whole matter.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's confusion. If you put out
Speaker 1: enough nonsense, garbage and confuse people on it what exactly
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to believe, then it doesn't matter exactly
Speaker 1: what's going on because you have everyone so confus use
Speaker 1: that they they're just their brains are every which direction.
Speaker 1: They no longer know what to believe because there's so
Speaker 1: much nonsense garbage out there. Part of the problem is
Speaker 1: definitely a huge issue with that. But they love that, right,
Speaker 1: The government loves conspiracies. They're all on board with conspiracies now.
Speaker 1: They love it because guess what it does. It gives
Speaker 1: them the cover that they need to continue to do
Speaker 1: the real shit that they're doing.
Speaker 2: Just like in the sixties, seventies and eighties with UFOs,
Speaker 2: the military industrial complex benefited immensely from promulgating the UFO
Speaker 2: mythos because it was able to run a kind of
Speaker 2: cover story for their secret Cold War plane programs and
Speaker 2: Cold War experiments. Not that there isn't something act happening,
Speaker 2: but if you convince the public it's all just space aliens,
Speaker 2: well then you can fly things right over their head,
Speaker 2: do it in public, and the public is just going
Speaker 2: to think that it's an alien invasion and not ask
Speaker 2: any questions, or they're not going to think anything of
Speaker 2: it because they've been told that that kind of thing
Speaker 2: doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: It's really weird.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the I'll give you another example,
Speaker 2: I think is something that's relevant. The executive order that
Speaker 2: the White House just approved about pharmaceutical drugs, and CNN
Speaker 2: says new executive order is going to cut pharmaceutical drug
Speaker 2: costs by eighty percent. But that's not what it does.
Speaker 2: If you read it, it doesn't matter if you support
Speaker 2: it or don't support it. But if you read it, it
Speaker 2: actually says it's going to strip all of well, there's
Speaker 2: actually two of them. There's an executive order on pharmaceutical
Speaker 2: drug prices and then there's an executive order from the
Speaker 2: White House more but directive about pharmaceutical manufacturing in the US,
Speaker 2: and both of them together they don't cut drug prices.
Speaker 2: And that drug companies suppose hate these executive orders, but
Speaker 2: they really benefit from them. If you actually read the order,
Speaker 2: as opposed to what someone might say online on either
Speaker 2: side of the aisle, it actually strips all the regulations
Speaker 2: from the pharmaceutical manufacturers. It strips the manufacturing and the
Speaker 2: construction of new facilities, all the regulations for that, and
Speaker 2: then it cuts out the pharmacies, and it cuts out
Speaker 2: the insurance companies as the middle men and women between
Speaker 2: the company that sells the drug and the American consumer.
Speaker 2: In other words, it allows for the company to sell
Speaker 2: drugs directly to the American people with no doctor's, no insurance,
Speaker 2: no pharmacy, just direct buisor to you, to your front door.
Speaker 2: And of course Pfiser loves that. Why are they telling
Speaker 2: people the drug companies don't like that. It's not going
Speaker 2: to lower drug prices. It's going to give the drug
Speaker 2: companies an even bigger monopoly. It's just like everything that
Speaker 2: we're told. And if you try to explain that to somebody,
Speaker 2: like I had an argument with somebody where I screenshotted
Speaker 2: the actual executive order and showed it to them, and
Speaker 2: they tell me I'm a libtard. It's like you can't.
Speaker 2: You cannot converse with people about almost anything anymore.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle or
Speaker 2: the UFO aisle.
Speaker 3: People are just.
Speaker 2: Hell bent on believing what they believe, and they don't
Speaker 2: give a damn about the truth or about critical thinking.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the subject is. It's really demoralizing.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I really don't care about any of that because
Speaker 1: I'm never going to take another pharmaceutical drug ever again.
Speaker 1: And people are arguing about, oh, well, this is going
Speaker 1: to raise the prices this is going to lower the prices.
Speaker 1: Who cares? It's poison. It's all poison your body, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Who cares how much it
Speaker 1: is or how little it is. You shouldn't be on
Speaker 1: it in the first place.
Speaker 3: That's a great point.
Speaker 2: I did a whole show and that as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, and that's exactly the underlying issue is that
Speaker 2: regardless of what something like that would do in terms
Speaker 2: at the price or in terms of selling directly to
Speaker 2: the public. I mean, okay, so there's a main lot
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the story is. But in that
Speaker 2: particular case, so you have the White House's opinion and
Speaker 2: their statement, which is that it's supposed to lower drug costs.
Speaker 2: The media covers that and says, okay, it's supposed to
Speaker 2: lower drug costs. But people need their drugs, so we
Speaker 2: got to make sure people get their drugs. And they
Speaker 2: just sell you what the company tells them to sell you.
Speaker 2: They pay for those advertisements that are considered news articles.
Speaker 2: And then you have people that look at it and say, well,
Speaker 2: whether it's a good thing or not, I need to
Speaker 2: have my drugs or I'm going to have problems. And
Speaker 2: then there are people like you and I who sit
Speaker 2: off to the side and say exactly what you just said,
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's poison, and we spend the most
Speaker 2: money in the world. No country spends as much as
Speaker 2: the US does on drugs and healthcare, and yet we
Speaker 2: are the sickest in the world, and that also contributes.
Speaker 2: When you have a high demand, also contributes to high
Speaker 2: drug costs because it's a high demand for those drugs.
Speaker 2: Of course they're not going to be selling those drugs
Speaker 2: as much in countries like where I'm living now in Japan,
Speaker 2: because the population here is like four percent obese and
Speaker 2: relatively probably one of the healthiest in the world. So
Speaker 2: of course drugs aren't going to cost here. It costs
Speaker 2: more here. That's just basic economics, supply and demand. And
Speaker 2: sure there's exploitation of the American public in the American system,
Speaker 2: but again, like you just said, it's still poison and
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be arguing about how much the poison costs.
Speaker 2: That idea you can apply to any subject. It doesn't
Speaker 2: really matter if the plane crash was natural or if
Speaker 2: the Illuminati brought the plane down. What matters is the
Speaker 2: optics of the story. The truth does not matter. As
Speaker 2: many have said before, it's a post truth world, a
Speaker 2: post fact world, at least in the US. And what
Speaker 2: matters is the emotional response and how the optics can
Speaker 2: be trained to trick your perception into believing whatever it
Speaker 2: is that somebody wants to sell you, whether they're selling
Speaker 2: you aliens, or they're selling you drugs, or they're selling
Speaker 2: you the New World Order or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to put a caveat on that as well,
Speaker 1: like I'm personally not going to take any pharmaceutical drugs,
Speaker 1: but if pharmaceutical drugs help other people, then continue to
Speaker 1: do it. If you feel like that it is making
Speaker 1: a difference in your life, because sometimes I think I
Speaker 1: get it. I speak like other people shouldn't do it,
Speaker 1: Like that's your personal prerogative. Like if if you're on
Speaker 1: medications that helps you, you believe that it helps you,
Speaker 1: then continue to take it. I'm not telling anybody what
Speaker 1: to do, but for me, personally, I am not going
Speaker 1: to take any pharmaceutical drug ever again unless it's unless
Speaker 1: I really need it. Unless I really need it, like
Speaker 1: I'm deathly sick or something. Then I may possibly get
Speaker 1: in antibiotic. Who knows. There's always a aviat going on there.
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about these pharmaceutical companies and this stuff.
Speaker 1: I just made this post on Facebook here recently, and
Speaker 1: this is a chart which is a comparison of mental
Speaker 1: health prevalence and psychiatric treatment. Okay, so down here in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty was the lowest that it's ever been. And
Speaker 1: as we go on throughout the years, more treatments become
Speaker 1: available for psychiatric care for mental health, more pharmaceuticals become
Speaker 1: available for psychiatric care and mental health, but yet we
Speaker 1: get more mentally unwell people every single year since the
Speaker 1: year of nineteen fifty. Now, make that chart make sense? Obviously,
Speaker 1: that work, Ryan. How do we have more care facilities
Speaker 1: for mental health? How do we have more treatments, more psychiatrists,
Speaker 1: more not parapsychiatrists, psychotherapists, more therapy centers, But yet we
Speaker 1: have been on a dramatic increase of mentally unwell people.
Speaker 2: I mean, the obvious answer to that rhetorical question is
Speaker 2: that it's a business. So the more that you can
Speaker 2: take natural behaviors and emotions and classify them as some
Speaker 2: sort of disease or some kind of ailment or some
Speaker 2: kind of illness. The more that you can create, manufacture,
Speaker 2: and market and sell drugs and other forms of quote
Speaker 2: treatments for people. That's why you'll never see those numbers
Speaker 2: go down, because if they go down, then the psychiatrists,
Speaker 2: the psychotherapists, the psychologists, etc. They lose just like cancer
Speaker 2: industry or just like any other industry, vaccine industries.
Speaker 3: Et cetera.
Speaker 2: They lose their cash cow. That's what it is. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. If you look at the statistical data
Speaker 2: kind of like what you're shown on the screen, if
Speaker 2: you look at the statistical data likewise, you could probably
Speaker 2: compare You could probably add a third line and compare
Speaker 2: that to violent crime. Because in the United States, eighty
Speaker 2: percent of violent crime is not kind of linked to
Speaker 2: it is directly linked to drug use, and not just
Speaker 2: illicit drug use, but drug use in general. So everything
Speaker 2: from your pharmaceuticals that you get legally to the drugs
Speaker 2: that you might buy on the street. Eighty percent of
Speaker 2: America's crime problem is directly linked to drug use of
Speaker 2: one form or another. That's a major driving factor in crime.
Speaker 2: It's also a major driving factor in until illness. As
Speaker 2: a matter of act, you could look at the history
Speaker 2: of what is considered to be mental illness back before
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties, maybe going back two three hundred years,
Speaker 2: and most culture's, most societies going back even further than that,
Speaker 2: saw that when people were acting strange or bizarre, maybe
Speaker 2: they attributed that to alcohol, they were possessed by the
Speaker 2: spirit the gin for example, or maybe they were crazy,
Speaker 2: they were mentally ill, they had like a legitimate problem,
Speaker 2: whatever that problem was, well, they would still say that
Speaker 2: person was possessed by a spirit. They were acting in
Speaker 2: a way that required an exorcism. And today we do
Speaker 2: something very similar with exorcisms. We exercised people with drugs
Speaker 2: and exercise people with vaccines, except we're not basing it
Speaker 2: on one or two people in society that are acting
Speaker 2: kind of strange. We're creating the conditions so that everybody
Speaker 2: has this need for an exorcist like product. Everybody is potent.
Speaker 2: Like with add what's add Your kid likes to climb
Speaker 2: like shiny things and it has a lot of energy.
Speaker 2: You just take natural human behaviors of children and adults.
Speaker 2: Are you happy? Are you sleepy? Do you have to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom? Kind of like if you ever
Speaker 2: saw the Simpsons and the cat flu episode. You know,
Speaker 2: symptoms of the cat flu include mild hunger, being thirsty,
Speaker 2: being tired, just normal human experiences that they can label
Speaker 2: as a disease and then sell you a drug for it.
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of problems. One of the
Speaker 2: problems is the usage of the drugs. Another one of
Speaker 2: the problems is the labeling of natural behaviors as mental
Speaker 2: or physical illnesses that require drugs. I know that you're
Speaker 2: one of the few people that I'm either friends with
Speaker 2: or who I consider a colleague who is willing to
Speaker 2: even discuss the fact that, like with the pharmaceutical drugs,
Speaker 2: it's just generally poison And I think it should be
Speaker 2: obviously noted that some people, yes, it quote helps, but
Speaker 2: we have to consider that in America, we take more
Speaker 2: drugs than anybody else and we are the sickest. So overall,
Speaker 2: clearly the drugs are not helping us. They're making us sicker.
Speaker 2: They're driving that chart that's on the screen. They're making
Speaker 2: us more unhealthy in body and mind. And that can
Speaker 2: be statistically and even objectively verified by going to pretty
Speaker 2: much any other part of the world that does not
Speaker 2: use and abuse drugs like that. And I'm not talking
Speaker 2: just about Japan, although Japan's a great example because of
Speaker 2: how great the health is here. In general, it's cultural,
Speaker 2: it's familial, it's community based, it's common sense based, it's
Speaker 2: portion controlled. And when you have the total opposite of
Speaker 2: that in drugs and food and alcohol and everything else,
Speaker 2: you get a population of very sick, mentally ill, brain
Speaker 2: dead people. And frankly, that's what the United States is.
Speaker 2: I'm an American citizen. I am ashamed of America. Not
Speaker 2: because of wars necessarily, or because of Trump or some
Speaker 2: stupid crap like that. I'm ashamed because my country is
Speaker 2: a nation of drug addicts. It's a nation of people
Speaker 2: that are sick and diseased and proud of it. And
Speaker 2: what I was getting at by saying that, you're one
Speaker 2: of the very few people that I know as a
Speaker 2: friend or colleague who will talk about things like this,
Speaker 2: like the drugs. We still argue over things like viruses
Speaker 2: and bacteria. Yeah, like a bacteria can make you sick.
Speaker 2: But most of the time, what's making us sick. It's
Speaker 2: our diets, it's our lifestyles. It's the staring at plane
Speaker 2: crashes and thinking I know the Illuminati did this because
Speaker 2: there's two wings on the plane, and two is one
Speaker 2: of the numbers the Illuminati likes. It's just like crazy
Speaker 2: mentally ill stuff, and it's it may It makes me
Speaker 2: feel just uncomfortable to watch it or to even talk
Speaker 2: about it anymore. I don't know what it's even become.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's mental illness across the board, but it's
Speaker 2: it's artificial. It's been manufactured because if you look at
Speaker 2: the rest of the world, the rest of the world
Speaker 2: doesn't live and doesn't act like this, and those facts
Speaker 2: can be correlated directly with drug use, with diets, and
Speaker 2: with other similar things, including access to media and social media.
Speaker 1: If I was a tenfoil hat conspiracy theorist, I would
Speaker 1: say that they are intentionally creating mentally ill people by
Speaker 1: reclassifying the parameters of what a mentally ill person is,
Speaker 1: just like they try to reclassify everything else whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to their benefit. Okay, and we see that with
Speaker 1: the adderall and the Riddlin that's given the children, which
Speaker 1: came directly out of the MK Ultra programs THO that
Speaker 1: was tested it on MK Ultra subjects before it was
Speaker 1: ever given to the public amphetamine. Okay, they were using
Speaker 1: that on MK ultra test subjects before they ever gave
Speaker 1: it to the public. And then what did they do.
Speaker 1: They immediately roll it out to your kids. They get
Speaker 1: the kids hooked on it first. And that's what Uri
Speaker 1: Buzman off his main thing, the KGB defector. I know,
Speaker 1: I keep bringing them up, but it's so freaking important,
Speaker 1: and I've been ramming it into the ground, but it's
Speaker 1: really important because that is exactly that's the whole basis
Speaker 1: of everything that he said, is that if we control
Speaker 1: the school system, if we control the kids, if we
Speaker 1: control the information of what the kids are getting, then
Speaker 1: in two decades we are going to have control of
Speaker 1: everything because those people grow up and the things that
Speaker 1: they are indoctrinated with, the things that they have normalized,
Speaker 1: is going to become the new thing to do. And
Speaker 1: that is exactly what they've done. They pumped it communist
Speaker 1: ideas into young kids in school. Now those kids went
Speaker 1: to college, they propagated those ideas, and now those people
Speaker 1: that were in college in the eighties are now running
Speaker 1: the United States. They are in positions of power. And
Speaker 1: that's just the example that he gave communist Marxist Leninism
Speaker 1: ideas being pumped into the school systems.
Speaker 2: I think there's a very real piece of information in
Speaker 2: what you said in relation to the plane crashes, because yes,
Speaker 2: plane crashes are down, and yes people dying are statistically down.
Speaker 2: But where there are incidents like with this guy in
Speaker 2: San Diego who I guess identified as a pilot and
Speaker 2: then crashed and didn't really know what he was doing.
Speaker 2: That kind of ignorance, that kind of arrogance and ego,
Speaker 2: that kind of just stupidity, quite frankly, that drives almost
Speaker 2: everything that we see, everything that we touch, everything that
Speaker 2: we hear. That's what social media is, that's what the
Speaker 2: mainstream media is. That's what politics are, at least in
Speaker 2: the United States. It's just a constant bombardment of the stupidest, dumbest,
Speaker 2: most absurd crap that humanity can produce. It's just mostly
Speaker 2: gage garbage in and garbage out, and so you have
Speaker 2: largely a population of people who, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: all really scary. I think I mentioned this the last
Speaker 2: time I come on. In the United States, seventy roughly
Speaker 2: seventy nine percent of the country is literate. That means
Speaker 2: twenty one percent of Americans, and sure a large portion
Speaker 2: of that are people that have come to the country
Speaker 2: from places that don't have even moderate education systems. That's
Speaker 2: part of it, but that's not the entirety of it.
Speaker 2: That means twenty one percent or not literate. And then
Speaker 2: of the seventy nine percent who are literate, up to
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the seventy nine percent can't read above
Speaker 2: a sixth grade level. And then the United States above
Speaker 2: every other nation depending on the drug we're talking about,
Speaker 2: the US is like first place in the usage and
Speaker 2: the distribution of like amphetamines, opioids, marijuana, and the list
Speaker 2: just goes on on. The only country that comes close
Speaker 2: is like Germany and Australia for certain kinds of drugs.
Speaker 2: But when you look at Eastern Asia, like could be China, Japan, Taiwan,
Speaker 2: the usage of these kinds of substances or the distribution
Speaker 2: of them is like virtually nothing. It's like less than
Speaker 2: one percent. I think the highest I saw in one
Speaker 2: Asian country was four percent, and we're talking about the
Speaker 2: whole population. In the US, opioids are given out. I
Speaker 2: think it's fifty out of I can't remember the exact time,
Speaker 2: it's like fifty percent of the United States of citizens
Speaker 2: are on opioids. That's like, that's double the amount in
Speaker 2: any other country in the world. And that absolutely has
Speaker 2: something to do with what happened in Afghanistan with the poppy,
Speaker 2: the opium fields, and the Taliban and the US military.
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, it's double the amount of that. I
Speaker 2: think it's depending on the country you compare it to.
Speaker 2: If you compare it to most Asian countries, it's like
Speaker 2: double or triple the amount of anthetamines. It's like double
Speaker 2: or triple the amount of marijuana. It's like double or
Speaker 2: triple the amount of virtually everything, again with the exception
Speaker 2: of some European countries or maybe Australia that are relatively comparable,
Speaker 2: but still not that comparable. So what I'm getting at
Speaker 2: here is if you have a country that has been sabotaged,
Speaker 2: you have people that can't read at all, or people
Speaker 2: that on average choose not to read and can't read
Speaker 2: above a certain level, people that on average. The US
Speaker 2: spends so much money on healthcare, and we are leading
Speaker 2: the world in categories, we don't want to lead the
Speaker 2: world in infant mortality, mother mortality, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer,
Speaker 2: We're like the sickest and dumbest people on planet Earth.
Speaker 2: And it's no wonder why some people dislike Americans, because
Speaker 2: as the sickest, dumbest people on planet Earth, we run
Speaker 2: around telling everybody we're the healthiest and we're the most
Speaker 2: intelligent and American number one fu It's not that I
Speaker 2: hate America. It's just that Americans need to realize that
Speaker 2: these problems are not universal. These problems are very centralized
Speaker 2: and a part of that centralized problem.
Speaker 3: Just like with UFOs.
Speaker 2: Yes there's UFOs in Russia, Yes there's UFOs in China,
Speaker 2: Japan and all over the world. But like as you know, writer,
Speaker 2: a lot of the UFO community makes the UFO issue
Speaker 2: a American issue, and outside of the borders of America,
Speaker 2: it unless you're like a UFO historian, it like virtually
Speaker 2: does doesn't exist. Maybe Randallsham gets a mention, but it
Speaker 2: really just doesn't exist outside the borders of the country.
Speaker 2: I think that is a problem that has result that
Speaker 2: is a result of media. It's a result of politics,
Speaker 2: not just with of course you have fos, but a
Speaker 2: result of you know, the drug use, the unhealthy lifestyles
Speaker 2: and diets, the corporate interest in government, all of these
Speaker 2: things contribute to these facts. There is a huge problem,
Speaker 2: and that problem is it might sound completely unrelated to
Speaker 2: the plane crash problem, but I think it's directly related
Speaker 2: because if you have a population that can't read, can't debate,
Speaker 2: doesn't have a diet or a lifestyle that is contributing
Speaker 2: to overall mental clarity and physical health. I mean, all
Speaker 2: of that eventually leads to somebody that you can show
Speaker 2: them the physical proof and they don't like they physically,
Speaker 2: I don't think mentally have the capacity to understand it.
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't mean that in a bad way,
Speaker 2: but man, there are some people that are like mega
Speaker 2: people that I've shown physical that's not true the executive order,
Speaker 2: I show it to the my screenshot at highlighted You're
Speaker 2: just a libtard. And these are people I've known for
Speaker 2: a long time. And I'm thinking, not just some random person.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like I thought you were like an
Speaker 2: intelligent individual.
Speaker 1: Is it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's stupidity or I started thinking
Speaker 2: maybe they just don't even have the capacity to read it.
Speaker 2: Or to understand it. They would prefer to be in
Speaker 2: a cult. They would prefer to listen to whatever they're
Speaker 2: told and just believe it, like the libtrds do. Again,
Speaker 2: this is not a problem outside of the US and
Speaker 2: a lot of countries. It's a problem that we need
Speaker 2: to fix, and the only way we're going to fix
Speaker 2: it is by bringing back real conversations like this and
Speaker 2: by using critical thinking skills. And also I think we
Speaker 2: need to stop using the bite sized bits of information
Speaker 2: that are out of context. We need to bring back
Speaker 2: long form discussions and actually have debates where we can
Speaker 2: agree and disagree, and stop making everything about tribal warfare,
Speaker 2: and that includes the plane crash stuff too.
Speaker 1: Well. That's the problem now, is that today's generation of
Speaker 1: people can't sit down because they don't have the attention
Speaker 1: span to even watch this hour long video. So in
Speaker 1: order for me to get the attention of people, I
Speaker 1: have to cut these discussions down into one minute clip
Speaker 1: in order in hopes, in hopes Ryan, that they will
Speaker 1: click the link to the full video and listen to
Speaker 1: the entire thing, which your majority of them don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's that is a major problem. And then I
Speaker 1: get a lot of flak for the things that are
Speaker 1: not in the one minute clip, and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: realize this is just a minute clip of like almost
Speaker 1: two hour long conversation.
Speaker 2: Than the one minute clip, because you cut it so
Speaker 2: that means that you're covering it up that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: That's what they say, that's what they say. I've gotten
Speaker 1: so many of those comments, like you didn't mention blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, you didn't say that that
Speaker 1: this person was involved in that thing. And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: this is a one minute clip of a very long
Speaker 1: conversation that I had about this. If you would just
Speaker 1: click on the link that is attached to this clip,
Speaker 1: or if you take five seconds to go to the
Speaker 1: description or go to the link that's in the profile
Speaker 1: and go to my channel or listen to it on
Speaker 1: the podcast, you'll probably hear what you're trying to correct
Speaker 1: me on. I try and cover a lot all my
Speaker 1: basis when I'm talking about something, but no, there it's
Speaker 1: just at you, at you, at you. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: that you bring up Germany and how Germany is probably
Speaker 1: one of the other countries that is on a lot
Speaker 1: of pharmaceutical medications because Germany is where a lot of
Speaker 1: these medications originated.
Speaker 3: From Oral to Germany.
Speaker 1: A lot of them came from there, and they were
Speaker 1: tested on the Nazi soldiers of that time, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the pain medication that Hitler was on came
Speaker 1: from a doctor that he had, and then whenever they
Speaker 1: all got transferred through Project paper Clip in nineteen I
Speaker 1: think that was in nineteen forty five or nineteen forty
Speaker 1: seven around in that area, they then took that chemical compound.
Speaker 1: It was called something completely different, and then they took
Speaker 1: that chemical compound and then they made morphine in the
Speaker 1: United States based off of the concoction from Nazi Germany.
Speaker 1: Might be getting some of the story wrong there, but
Speaker 1: it was also like oxy codone, so they turned like
Speaker 1: that stuff in the oxy codone and then they sold
Speaker 1: it to the public. But Nazi Germany they were doing
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff with drugs. They had one
Speaker 1: drug that was like it was like a freaking speedball
Speaker 1: dude that had like in fe to mean inn in
Speaker 1: cocaine in the equivalent of like what we call oxy
Speaker 1: codon now, all like wrapped up into one. I think
Speaker 1: they called it like DXI or something like that. It's
Speaker 1: hard to remember off the top of my head, but
Speaker 1: they were doing it. Then we got those scientists, and
Speaker 1: then we started doing it here.
Speaker 2: I've always I don't know if you want me to
Speaker 2: comment on that, because I think I have a lot
Speaker 2: to say, But I've always wondered how I understand what
Speaker 2: you're saying. And it's certainly true much of this comes
Speaker 2: out of the drug companies Ig Farbin, bay Er, etc.
Speaker 2: Ig Farbin was even selected to be protected from Allied
Speaker 2: bombing during the final days of the war. They made
Speaker 2: sure that the drug company was protected from the bombing raids.
Speaker 2: That's nice and convenient kill the civilians, but let's make
Speaker 2: sure the drug company's protected. But I've always thought that
Speaker 2: there was something like that happening in the twenties, and
Speaker 2: I was always one wondering if in the thirties that
Speaker 2: hasn't been exaggerated in order to cover up what was
Speaker 2: happening in the twenties, And because the Nazis initially were
Speaker 2: highly opposed to all those kinds of things, they were
Speaker 2: trying to help the country recover from the devastation of
Speaker 2: the drugs and the prostitution. The pornography of the nineteen twenties,
Speaker 2: and then all we hear about is the horrible, you know,
Speaker 2: drugs that Hitler did, which he ended up being like
Speaker 2: a drug addict to some extent, to some degree, and
Speaker 2: they were certainly putting soldiers on those kinds of drugs
Speaker 2: on the front line. But I wonder if that's not
Speaker 2: kind of like the kamikazi story in Japan, where people
Speaker 2: think that the Japanese were just inherently kamikazi pilots, but
Speaker 2: what actually happened was that the Japanese resorted to kamikazi
Speaker 2: actions in limited cases toward the end of the war
Speaker 2: because they were out of resources, and they saw it
Speaker 2: at well some I'm sure there were some pilots that
Speaker 2: didn't agree with it or ran away, but most of
Speaker 2: them saw it as an national duty and an honorable
Speaker 2: thing to do that, to to continue to defend Japan.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a national policy from the beginning. It was
Speaker 2: something that happened in the last in the last days
Speaker 2: when the war was over. And I assume that that's
Speaker 2: probably what happened with the Germans too, that during the
Speaker 2: last days when it was pretty much over, that's when
Speaker 2: they really started pumping the tank operators and others full
Speaker 2: of these drugs. But then again, also I also thought, well,
Speaker 2: hold in a second, we say that to kind of
Speaker 2: like vilify the Nazis, but then like the United States government,
Speaker 2: the Chinese government even to this day, my god, look
Speaker 2: at the stuff China's doing. Man, China's putting m R
Speaker 2: and A vaccines and soldiers. They're openly creating super soldiers
Speaker 2: in China. That's all over international news. They break about it.
Speaker 3: Same thing.
Speaker 1: They can they time travel, though.
Speaker 2: We'll have to ask Corey good. I'm not sure that
Speaker 2: that'll come out of the next disclosure project. But I mean, look,
Speaker 2: look at the United States.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think there's an episode of The X
Speaker 2: Files based on the sleep deprivation and the super soldier
Speaker 2: program in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: It's like we did.
Speaker 2: We did the same exact thing. Anyway, that's there's a
Speaker 2: whole show. There's a whole show there. But I just
Speaker 2: think that in the twenties there was a major drug
Speaker 2: problem in Germany and the US and China.
Speaker 3: Look at the stuff the Russians.
Speaker 2: My god, the Russians are cutting dogs heads off and
Speaker 2: pumping it full of machines and tubes and then keeping
Speaker 2: the dogs head alive. I just the whole stuff with
Speaker 2: the Nazis and drugs. I just think it needs to
Speaker 2: be the door needs to be open there so we
Speaker 2: can see.
Speaker 3: That's it's the whole.
Speaker 2: It's like every government, every country, and we still do
Speaker 2: it today. What the Japanese did with a unit set
Speaker 2: was at unit seventy three one the biological experiments, which
Speaker 2: is crazy stuff that every country has done. And yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of it is. Yeah, definitely, since is centered
Speaker 2: in Germany in the same way that a lot of
Speaker 2: companies still are today, and a lot of companies are
Speaker 2: centered in the US, and that's probably why the US
Speaker 2: and Germany have some of the highest uses. As you
Speaker 2: were saying, so the highest uses of these substances that
Speaker 2: we have, we have like no regulation of the industry.
Speaker 2: We have regulators that regulate the law as opposed to
Speaker 2: regulating the companies that they're supposed to regulate.
Speaker 3: That that's a different story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like necessarily mean that nobody else was
Speaker 1: doing it. I just meant that like Germany like created
Speaker 1: a lot of these drugs. I don't believe that methanphetamine
Speaker 1: was a thing before World War Two and before they
Speaker 1: were given and there definitely wasn't these other types of
Speaker 1: painkiller compounds. They didn't come out until like later. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I have to do more looking into it,
Speaker 1: but I believe. And that doesn't mean that the entire
Speaker 1: population of Germany was on drugs either. I mean they
Speaker 1: could have just been, you know, feeding it directly to
Speaker 1: their soldiers. But let's go over this before I let
Speaker 1: you go. Let's do these trained you and stuff real quick,
Speaker 1: because there was the We've covered the boats, we covered
Speaker 1: the planes, we covered the helicopters. The first train derailment
Speaker 1: that I could remember. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: this one, but this was also This was in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two where a former sam Pedro train engineer was
Speaker 1: sentenced to three years in prisident for derailing a locomotive
Speaker 1: near the US Navy hospital ship.
Speaker 2: What was the reasoning given? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: This was all around q Andon. This was a QE
Speaker 1: guy that he was trying to bring attention to the
Speaker 1: Mercy ship that was there for the stuff, and he
Speaker 1: believed that they that there was children being rescued from
Speaker 1: the underground. The underground bases, and he wanted to bring
Speaker 1: attention to what was going on, so he tried to
Speaker 1: derail the train and crash it into the Mercy Ship.
Speaker 3: Wow, I actually did.
Speaker 2: I kind of remember hearing that in passing, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember anything about this story. That's that's that's the
Speaker 2: story though. What you just said that he was a
Speaker 2: cute person and he believed that he could help, I guess,
Speaker 2: free the children by derailing this train and crashing it.
Speaker 1: That was what was told to me by his best
Speaker 1: friend that I met in California during this time that
Speaker 1: he was He thought that he was going to get
Speaker 1: charges put against him as well for this.
Speaker 2: It's you know what that reminds me of. That reminds
Speaker 2: me of back in the nineties when the FBI set
Speaker 2: up the First World Trade Center terrorist The FBI used
Speaker 2: to and they still do. Most of the terrorist plots
Speaker 2: that are foiled or set up by the Federal Bureau
Speaker 2: of Investigation, they always, essentially always have been it's like
Speaker 2: eighty ninety percent or something. It's a crazy percentage. Most
Speaker 2: of them three quarters of the base minimum. And I
Speaker 2: was talking about that on my show Friday as well,
Speaker 2: and in hearing what you just said about the QAnon thing.
Speaker 2: If that's actually true and that's actually accurate, then it
Speaker 2: looks like it's a new form of FBI and trapment,
Speaker 2: if you will, because instead of going and creating these
Speaker 2: terrorists and these lone gunmen and these lone bombers, et cetera,
Speaker 2: and training them and giving them weapons and telling them
Speaker 2: or telling them that's a test and then the bomb
Speaker 2: actually goes off, you know, whatever the case might be.
Speaker 2: I think that we've kind of evolved from that to
Speaker 2: being able to create people like this on the Internet
Speaker 2: and being able to, like with Paul Benowitz, feed people
Speaker 2: information through their emails or through their social media, or
Speaker 2: through their even maybe even phone calls, but using something
Speaker 2: like QAnon to create individuals like this, like that crazy
Speaker 2: guy that went to the Planet Ping Pong Bing Bong
Speaker 2: pizza restaurant with a rifle and was going to help
Speaker 2: free the kids that Hillary Clinton was eating in the basement.
Speaker 2: Remember that guy. It's a very similar thing to this,
Speaker 2: if that story is true, of what you said, similar
Speaker 2: to this train de relment. It's like going back to
Speaker 2: the planes and the question of whether or not something
Speaker 2: suspicious is happening. Well, that is a suspicious thing. If
Speaker 2: the FBI or the CIA, or the NSA or some
Speaker 2: other group or the Pentagon is behind creating these kinds
Speaker 2: of low nuts based on these whacked out conspiracies of QAnon,
Speaker 2: then they're creating chaos. They're sabotaging airlines or trains. They're
Speaker 2: just not doing it in the traditional ways of how
Speaker 2: we might think they're doing it. They're doing it through
Speaker 2: proxies like the FBI has with terrorists. Does that make
Speaker 2: any sense?
Speaker 1: Makes sense? And I believe that guy whenever he told me,
Speaker 1: because he was in fear of being prosecuted as well,
Speaker 1: because apparently he was the one that got this guy
Speaker 1: into the q stuff. So he thought that the FBI
Speaker 1: was going to come after him because they were going
Speaker 1: to trace all of his information and his text messages
Speaker 1: and look at his computer and his social media and
Speaker 1: see where he got a lot of this information to
Speaker 1: be able to derail the train to hit the Mercy ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably not easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I have one believed him, And I remember
Speaker 1: I had heard a few few other people talking about
Speaker 1: it after it had happened, But this one was kind
Speaker 1: of brushed under the rug. It didn't make national news.
Speaker 1: It was kind of only in California that this kind
Speaker 1: of hit the news. And then it was gone, like
Speaker 1: within a week, it was gone. No one talked about
Speaker 1: it anymore. But I thought that that was an important
Speaker 1: one to bring up.
Speaker 3: What was the guy, Let's see if we can find him.
Speaker 1: Here, Eldronto Moriano. I don't know what are you probably
Speaker 1: pronounced Moriano?
Speaker 2: I I was just wondering what his name was. I
Speaker 2: looked up the other guy, Edgar Madison Welsh, the guy
Speaker 2: that took the rifle to the pizza place.
Speaker 1: He calls almost a million dollars in damages, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand dollars in damages. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: big one. And then the of course the Ohio train
Speaker 1: de RealMed here why is this not showing up a
Speaker 1: here in the seconds East Palestine? And uh train derailment
Speaker 1: which happened in twenty twenty three, So I think we're
Speaker 1: I think it's about time for another train accident. What
Speaker 1: do you think.
Speaker 3: Maybe a couple of years.
Speaker 2: You know, what's a really kind of fun thing to do, writer,
Speaker 2: I would encourage all of your listeners to do this,
Speaker 2: encourage you to do it.
Speaker 3: I do it too.
Speaker 2: Look up plane crashes, trained derailments, even boat accidents. Just
Speaker 2: look them up for random parts of the world. So
Speaker 2: like you could type in plane crash, train train derailment
Speaker 2: except in Russia, or do the same thing in Australia,
Speaker 2: or the same thing in like I don't know, the Philippines,
Speaker 2: and see how many stories you can find from different
Speaker 2: parts of the world that have no American media coverage
Speaker 2: or like maybe very limited coverage. Just one story that
Speaker 2: is published and it disappears it's like an ap wire
Speaker 2: or something. But look up those with those keywords and
Speaker 2: find and I'm sure you can find a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: Uh In.
Speaker 2: I know you can't because I've done it, and how
Speaker 2: they're not being reported, and how if you did report them,
Speaker 2: it would make the if there was a conspiracy, would
Speaker 2: make the conspiracy a lot more solid. But I think
Speaker 2: that because it's not being reported, it shows you an
Speaker 2: example of how in the US we cover these things
Speaker 2: so heavily to create narratives and optics. But listen, there's
Speaker 2: wildfires in South Korea. There's how there's wildfires in Japan
Speaker 2: right now, there's like no news coverage of it. They
Speaker 2: handle it and it's done. There were some of the
Speaker 2: biggest wildfires South Korea ever had the last couple of
Speaker 2: months in terms of acres burned. There was South Korean
Speaker 2: media coverage, a couple stories here in Japan, but for
Speaker 2: the most there was like no coverage of that in
Speaker 2: the US. And that's a favorite of ours writer, I know,
Speaker 2: because of the directed in weapons. When there's a fire
Speaker 2: in Colorado or California, it's dew's. When there's a fire
Speaker 2: in South Korea, it's nobody cares. And I just think
Speaker 2: we need to consider these things, like there are trained
Speaker 2: toralments in Russia, there are trained derailments in Asia, there
Speaker 2: are trained erailments in other parts of the world, and
Speaker 2: plane crashes, and it's funny how in those parts of
Speaker 2: any other part of the world it's just an accident,
Speaker 2: or maybe it's suspicious sometimes, but most of the time
Speaker 2: it's an accident or an act of God an active nature.
Speaker 2: But in the US, every fire is a dw every
Speaker 2: plane crashes the Illuminati, every trained derailment is because of
Speaker 2: Q andons. It just seems weird to me when you
Speaker 2: contrast that with the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: It is really strange and there's no other explanation other
Speaker 1: than the government loves conspiracies. They've let it get off
Speaker 1: so far out of hand that there's no putting a
Speaker 1: lid back on it, and they just got a roll
Speaker 1: the freaking punches, just like there's no putting a lid
Speaker 1: back on extraterrestrial life because they've let it gets so
Speaker 1: far ridiculously out of hands, spreading so many rumors, misinformation
Speaker 1: and disinformation that they can't go back on it now,
Speaker 1: So they kind of have to just roll with the
Speaker 1: punches and sort of double down on it, just like
Speaker 1: people view with their own beliefs on the internet, posing
Speaker 1: what they believe, they doubled down even harder on their
Speaker 1: regular position.
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think ultimately about the plane crashes
Speaker 2: and the trains and the boats. What do you personally think?
Speaker 1: I think that it's there. I think that they're doing
Speaker 1: something with making it a popular thing to like to
Speaker 1: report on. Now, Now what that reason why they would
Speaker 1: be doing then is a whole other narrative. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they would be doing that, But it's kind
Speaker 1: of strange that all of a sudden, like these helicopter crashes,
Speaker 1: these plane crashes, these trained derailments are very popular things
Speaker 1: to report on and they last a long time in
Speaker 1: the news cycle. Besides the one that I just brought up,
Speaker 1: it was like a week and it was like completely gone.
Speaker 1: But the real ID thing is completely ridiculous. They've been
Speaker 1: talking about the real ID for a really long time.
Speaker 1: That's been going on for like ten years now. I've
Speaker 1: had a real ID for around seven years because California
Speaker 1: required you to have a real idea. You couldn't get
Speaker 1: a different kind of ID. You can only get the
Speaker 1: real ID, and California was one of the first people
Speaker 1: to implement that policy, so I already knew that that's
Speaker 1: where it was going. So the whole thing that they
Speaker 1: don't want you to travel, they don't want you to fly,
Speaker 1: they don't want you to do all that is bogus.
Speaker 1: If they're relating that to the real ID stuff that
Speaker 1: has been in the making and in the works for
Speaker 1: a really long time, that was just going to be
Speaker 1: the way that it is. There's no getting around that.
Speaker 1: But I do think that it's just a tad strange
Speaker 1: that they're all of a sudden propping up and making
Speaker 1: these accidents on all accounts. Besides a few of them
Speaker 1: that's more interesting than just an accident. They're making these
Speaker 1: really big, like national stories and national wide stories, and
Speaker 1: it's just interesting to me. And fear obviously cells. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's nothing butt fear on the news. That's the way
Speaker 1: that it's been since the twenty four New twenty four
Speaker 1: hour news cycle. It has just been nothing butt fear.
Speaker 1: Hit people with fear, get them scared, get them confused,
Speaker 1: misreport a bunch of things. We just looked at the
Speaker 1: article where I said that six people were killed and
Speaker 1: later I said two people were killed. The article from
Speaker 1: the people that were escaping from the jail was ten people.
Speaker 1: Other people said that it was eleven people. The Virginia
Speaker 1: Giffrey case had several speeds that the bus was going
Speaker 1: whenever it hit her vehicle. Some was reporting eighty miles
Speaker 1: per hour, some sixty miles per hour, someone was forty
Speaker 1: miles per hour. The driver of the bus said that
Speaker 1: it was going like thirty miles per hour. Everyone had
Speaker 1: a different story when it comes to this stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's fear and as propaganda as what
Speaker 1: I think is going on, And for some reason, these
Speaker 1: types of stories of major incidents are being widely reported
Speaker 1: nationally now when there was probably the same amount of
Speaker 1: them that was happening before, but nobody cared because it
Speaker 1: wasn't reported.
Speaker 2: On I think that we're relatively on this mostly on
Speaker 2: the same page. That's I think that they're creating a
Speaker 2: narrative or up, they're creating optics around it to make
Speaker 2: it seem that way. I mean, look at this story
Speaker 2: just sent you. There's an incident in Russia of a
Speaker 2: train crash. Here is another one of a train crash.
Speaker 2: I just typed in train crash, Russia train crash, in
Speaker 2: Australia train crash. You can find them all over the world,
Speaker 2: whether this year, last year, the year before. Like how
Speaker 2: many people knew about the Russian train crash that happened
Speaker 2: last year. I didn't even know that until I just
Speaker 2: looked it up. Just there's always more context to this stuff,
Speaker 2: and we need to understand that context matters, and that
Speaker 2: we need to be a little less trigger happy on
Speaker 2: the extremist conspiracy stuff because that plays right into the
Speaker 2: hands of the intelligence agencies and plays right into the
Speaker 2: hands of the media.
Speaker 3: The people that profit off of those types.
Speaker 1: Of but they also have us in a double. They
Speaker 1: can hit us with a double double with that too, though, Ryan,
Speaker 1: they can. The time that we that everyone collectively decides
Speaker 1: that it's not a conspiracy is going to be when
Speaker 1: it's a real conspiracy. Right, it's a it's a flip
Speaker 1: flopping thing. They can go whichever direction they want to
Speaker 1: go with it because they have everyone exactly where they
Speaker 1: want them. So everything that people are seeing that is conspiracies,
Speaker 1: probably there's there's another explanation to it. But then as
Speaker 1: soon as everyone says this isn't real, this isn't fake,
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't going, then it's the opposite because
Speaker 1: they can do that because they know what people. It's
Speaker 1: like if we were to release a like, everybody wants
Speaker 1: the proof of extraterrestrials, right Ryan, they want the smoking gun,
Speaker 1: they want the video the Aliens landing in the in
Speaker 1: the UFO landing in the Aliens getting out. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: say someone had a real video of that. There was legit,
Speaker 1: no CGI, thing wasn't blurred, all real, no special effects,
Speaker 1: and they posted that online. How do you think people
Speaker 1: are going.
Speaker 2: To react same way they react with anything else. It's fake,
Speaker 2: that's right? Well, I mean There's a great example of that,
Speaker 2: I think in the very very very famous calviing UFO photo.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about the Calvin UFO photo.
Speaker 2: I can send you a link to it. This is
Speaker 2: considered one of the most credible UFO photos ever taken.
Speaker 1: It was just and someone found it in their dolls Gray.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a desk or a box.
Speaker 2: I forget exactly where it was found, but it's It
Speaker 2: was a British journalist, David Clark who found it, and
Speaker 2: he was he'd worked as a curator for the National
Speaker 2: Archives in Britain and found this photo. Again it was
Speaker 2: re released. It's basically it shows an unidentified flying object
Speaker 2: and there's a military craft near it. It's not The
Speaker 2: thing about photos like this, and I sent you a
Speaker 2: link in your private chat, is that there's no like
Speaker 2: big movement around it, like Louis Ella Zondo's fucking irrigation circle,
Speaker 2: and there's no big movement to discredit it. But it's
Speaker 2: just there. And these are the kinds of things that
Speaker 2: I think are probably a lot more accurate and true,
Speaker 2: but nobody really tries to prove it or discredit it.
Speaker 2: It just kind of sits there out in the open.
Speaker 2: Nobody recognizes I guess the value of it.
Speaker 1: That's because when something is real, literally nobody cares about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the exact same way that I felt
Speaker 1: about the UFO or the strange thing that I seen
Speaker 1: in my back yard with the military grade night vision
Speaker 1: goggles that look like a boomerang that have showed on
Speaker 1: the show several times that I seen it. It's not
Speaker 1: a doctored video. I seen it with my own eyes,
Speaker 1: captured it on military grade night vision goggles. But no
Speaker 1: one gives a shit about that.
Speaker 2: George Noy doesn't want to have you on Coast to
Speaker 2: coast to talk about that photo.
Speaker 1: Come on, he should. Everyone should be all over it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a freaking boomerang
Speaker 1: flying through the sky.
Speaker 2: That's fine, it's because I don't want to use on
Speaker 2: your show name specific names. But you know, you have
Speaker 2: to struggle to get access to go to a UFO
Speaker 2: conference when you have something like that. But people that
Speaker 2: make crap up get first class, first rate tickets and access.
Speaker 3: It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. And that's the thing is that whenever
Speaker 1: something real happens. People are not good. They don't know
Speaker 1: the difference because there's so much fake nonsense garbage out
Speaker 1: there and this idea that everything is fake and everything
Speaker 1: is staged and everything is a play and not taking
Speaker 1: things like like you mentioned in earlier in this episode,
Speaker 1: you know, everything should be analyzed and scrutinized on a
Speaker 1: case by case basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you all, you of course don't want to
Speaker 2: get do it, to do that kind of thing to
Speaker 2: the extent that you lose all touch with the possibility
Speaker 2: of something extraordinary. You always have to try to maintain
Speaker 2: that middle ground when you're doing that. You saw, I know,
Speaker 2: you saw that picture of Louis Elisondo's UFO and he
Speaker 2: even admitted that he didn't vet the guy. He admitted
Speaker 2: that he didn't have any evidence the photo was real.
Speaker 2: He just shared it and then doubled down on the photo.
Speaker 2: And it's like clearly an irrigation circle. And somebody even
Speaker 2: on the internet even went to Google maps and found
Speaker 2: it and then took it and compared it to his photo,
Speaker 2: which had been blown out and the contrast and whatnot
Speaker 2: had been changed on it. To me, it look like
Speaker 2: it was an actual shadow of a Craft like so
Speaker 2: fake that even some of the UFO people that support
Speaker 2: Louis Alazonda were like, man, what are you doing? This
Speaker 2: picture is so it's just like faker than CG. It's horrible,
Speaker 2: And that kind of thing is what gets attention.
Speaker 3: I call it.
Speaker 2: You call it conspiracy capitalism. In a way, it's just
Speaker 2: profiteering off of people's willingness or unwillingness to believe something,
Speaker 2: which is why I think that ultimately, deep down, the
Speaker 2: people that want disclosure, just as an example, people want disclosure.
Speaker 2: People who want disclosure the least I think are the
Speaker 2: people that are pushing for disclosure because if you get
Speaker 2: quote disclosure, suddenly Jeremy Corbel isn't walking through conferences with
Speaker 2: five camera angles on it. He's not as popular because
Speaker 2: he's not the focal point of getting disclosure. Once you
Speaker 2: get it, he's just another name. Once you get it,
Speaker 2: he's not important anymore. Same with Stephen Greer. If you
Speaker 2: get disclosure, well then everybody knows about the aliens. Now
Speaker 2: you don't need to buy a five thousand dollars laser
Speaker 2: to talk to the aliens and the government and do it.
Speaker 3: Everybody can do it.
Speaker 2: That's the problem, is that nobody ultimately wants within those
Speaker 2: fields or communities there to be some revelation of the truth.
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with the trains and planes.
Speaker 2: You can show people the statistical data, but people are
Speaker 2: profiting off of the conspiracy, whether it's financial or it's energetic.
Speaker 2: I think more so in the case of government and agencies.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that very heavily. I think that
Speaker 1: that is exactly what's going on. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: take away the boogeyman, if you take away the mystical
Speaker 1: aspect and the belief, and then everybody has access to it.
Speaker 1: I mean that goes back to like the church right
Speaker 1: used to be the priest and bishops and cardinals and
Speaker 1: these people were the only ones that had access to God. Okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't have access to God, so you got to
Speaker 1: pay me money so I can communicate with God on
Speaker 1: your behalf. Hey, when the Bible says something completely different
Speaker 1: than that, and the Bible says that we can all
Speaker 1: communicate with God, but nobody thought that they could, so
Speaker 1: then they just kept giving their money to these bishops
Speaker 1: and priests and stuff so that they can communicate with God.
Speaker 1: It's the exact same type of way with what's going
Speaker 1: on within the community. Like these certain people are the
Speaker 1: ones that has all the information. They're the only ones
Speaker 1: that has the right information, and if you don't listen
Speaker 1: to them, then you're a part of the problem.
Speaker 2: Then you find out some of those people that are
Speaker 2: on social media that are the big accounts, the people
Speaker 2: that could be right wing as much as the left wing.
Speaker 2: Turns out they're being paid by soda companies or they're
Speaker 2: being paid by foreign countries. Like my god Pool met
Speaker 2: with Benjamin and Yahoo.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: These are influencers. These are commentators meeting with world leaders,
Speaker 2: being paid by soda companies to promote soda and not
Speaker 2: have it stripped from the Snap program. It's just a
Speaker 2: giant joke. I know how much you struggle. You put
Speaker 2: in so much time and effort making you know your clips,
Speaker 2: are making videos, and I see that. Yes, sometimes you'll
Speaker 2: have a couple thousand things here or there, but these
Speaker 2: people don't have to do anything. They could post a
Speaker 2: picture of their toe and they'd have fifty thousand people
Speaker 2: that liked it, and they'd get a million dollars in
Speaker 2: donations because there's something cryptic about the toenail. It's just
Speaker 2: so stupid. It's so stupid. It's scripted, it's all paid for,
Speaker 2: it's organized. None of these people are real, including the
Speaker 2: big conspiracy people. They're not real, and if they ever
Speaker 2: were real, the narrative is shifted, changed, goalposts have been.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be posting toe photos from now on, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give me some nice old toe photos.
Speaker 2: That's how Marina Sarenn makes her money. She's a foot
Speaker 2: princess on OnlyFans, but.
Speaker 1: Princess the UFO cash baby.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's where the money is. But hey, again, all
Speaker 2: those things relate back to the train and the plane
Speaker 2: and the boats because those stories are handled in the
Speaker 2: same way that the UFO stories are handled. They're handled
Speaker 2: in the same way that any other conspiracy is handled.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god.
Speaker 2: I just one other example is it's like it's like
Speaker 2: the Joe Biden stuff. Suddenly now there's books being written.
Speaker 2: He had he had an illness, he wasn't all there
Speaker 2: in the head during his presidency, and they were building
Speaker 2: fake sets for him so that he could take the
Speaker 2: COVID shot. We knew that anyway. They were building fake
Speaker 2: sets so that he could have town halls that nobody
Speaker 2: showed up to. And like, that's just mainstream news now.
Speaker 2: But if I said that six months ago, band censored,
Speaker 2: kicked off, demonetized, et cetera. But now it's on CNN
Speaker 2: and now. But what gets me about it is that
Speaker 2: the general there's like no rebellion from the general public.
Speaker 2: The people that denied that was happening just kind of
Speaker 2: ignore the fact that now they're being told that it
Speaker 2: was real. He was sick the whole time. They used
Speaker 2: the auto pen. They had a fake White House set,
Speaker 2: they had a fake town hall set, like a Hollywood set.
Speaker 2: It was all a joke.
Speaker 1: Do you remember before the election, whenever the White House
Speaker 1: officials came out and said that Biden was sharp as attack,
Speaker 1: that he's sharper than he's ever been before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never, this is this is this is prime Biden.
Speaker 1: Prime Biden prime. Whenever he fumbled through the freaking the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty debates. If you didn't realize that something was
Speaker 1: wrong with him in the twenty twenty debates, him and
Speaker 1: then he was president.
Speaker 2: Anyway, It's amazing you sit and you say those things
Speaker 2: to people because you're watching reality, and they just refuse
Speaker 2: to believe it. And then after all these years, none
Speaker 2: of those people come back and say, well, you were right.
Speaker 2: It's classic misdirection across the board and every issue, every subject,
Speaker 2: and again even something like UFOs. Look at that Calvin photo.
Speaker 2: How many people have ever seen that compared to the
Speaker 2: nonsense that Louis Alizondo has put on the internet in
Speaker 2: the last.
Speaker 1: Month or then mins or the tik tank.
Speaker 3: Yeah there's another thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear those stories over and over and over
Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over again. I mean,
Speaker 2: my god, how much stuff does that and how long
Speaker 2: ago were those were those videos actually taken a long
Speaker 2: time ago, more than a decade ago, I think, And
Speaker 2: at least the Tiktac case, what about literally thousands of available,
Speaker 2: not to mention probably hundreds of thousands that you could
Speaker 2: dig for or have Foyer requests for, of documents after
Speaker 2: documents after documents Like I'm not saying I believe everything
Speaker 2: he wrote, but read a book by Timothy Good read
Speaker 2: his book Top Secret. He pulled records from like military
Speaker 2: archives all over the world going back to the freaking thirties.
Speaker 2: It's every country has massive records of this stuff that
Speaker 2: you can get access to that he prints in the book.
Speaker 2: It's not a new book either, there's an older book
Speaker 2: and there's the files just right there. And it's like,
Speaker 2: I remember when the twenty seventeen thing happened with a
Speaker 2: tip and I had read just one of many books
Speaker 2: I've read on UFOs, but I read Timothy Goods book
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there literally writer, I'm reading the article
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, wait a minute, And I got
Speaker 2: the Timothy Goode bok and I'm holding it in my hand,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, there are hundreds of documents just in
Speaker 2: this book alone. And then there's this a tip article
Speaker 2: and suddenly everybody's talking about UFOs. I bought this book
Speaker 2: for nine dollars at a used bookstore, and it's all
Speaker 2: like official records from the US and South America, et cetera,
Speaker 2: and Russia. Like what I got this article from the
Speaker 2: New York Times or I've got the actual records and
Speaker 2: they're telling us in the New York Times. It's like
Speaker 2: one program and then there's like some tic TACs or something,
Speaker 2: but here's all the records, So like the camera's on this,
Speaker 2: but the records are over here, and they keep telling
Speaker 2: people about the tic TACs. It's like there's so much
Speaker 2: more stuff that it's just it's totally available. You can
Speaker 2: get access to it everywhere. It's the same thing with healthcare.
Speaker 2: You can't sell sleep more, drink more water, and eat
Speaker 2: basic even if they're conventional to standard, basic, simple foods.
Speaker 2: You can't sell that. There's not a broccoli lobby, there's
Speaker 2: a tobacco lobby. There's not an asparagus lobby. But there's
Speaker 2: a cigarette and an alcohol and a sugar and a
Speaker 2: meat and this and of that lobby. That's it's just
Speaker 2: wholly corrupt to the core, it is.
Speaker 1: And don't know how we're gonna get out of it,
Speaker 1: but I hope that we do. I got our fingers
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed. Everyone should have their fingers cross and
Speaker 1: we all should be just doing better individually. We should
Speaker 1: be trying to better ourselves and better our health individually,
Speaker 1: and then hopefully that rubs off onto more people and
Speaker 1: then we get a healthier population to where we're not
Speaker 1: constantly bombarded by all of the nonsense garbage and off
Speaker 1: of the medications as much as we possibly can, and
Speaker 1: I think that we would see things start to heal up.
Speaker 1: But Ryan, thanks so much for coming on bro O.
Speaker 1: They're really appreciate. You can a lot of people know
Speaker 1: where to find you online. Yep.
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Speaker 3: Rarah.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. I hope that the conversation
Speaker 2: went well for you and the audience enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I only have like eight one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five followers on accent. I've had it for five years,
Speaker 1: and I don't even haven't even broke a thousand friends
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I've also had it for five years.
Speaker 2: So maybe you should share irrigation circles that you took
Speaker 2: pictures of. Actually that irrigation circles in Colorado. Maybe you
Speaker 2: could check it out the next time you visit Colorado.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll go there get some pictures of that
Speaker 1: underground base that's really a sewage drainage pipe. All right, brother,
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