Speaker 1: You're listening to kf I Am six forty the Bill
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Speaker 1: want to do it, got another couple hours to go
Speaker 1: before the show ends. Now this weekend Saturday, they are
Speaker 1: going to be protests across the country, in all the
Speaker 1: major cities in all of the states, and it's called
Speaker 1: the No King's Day of Defiance, and it's in protests
Speaker 1: to well because of the large military parade taking place
Speaker 1: on Saturday celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth Anniversity of
Speaker 1: the United States, and interestingly enough, coincidentally, it's Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: seventy ninth birthday. Paray is going to cost around forty
Speaker 1: five million dollars, which is kind of interesting when you're
Speaker 1: talking about cutting just as much money as you can
Speaker 1: from the budget, and so it's forty five million dollars,
Speaker 1: not including the damage to the streets all of these
Speaker 1: tanks are going to be causing. So there is the
Speaker 1: president up on the stand, the viewing stand, and passing
Speaker 1: in front of him are thousands of army troops, tanks,
Speaker 1: armored personnel, carrier missiles. Does that remind you of something?
Speaker 1: Is interesting? Visual, isn't it? And the President is going
Speaker 1: to make a speech almost you think he almost make
Speaker 1: a speech in Korean, wouldn't you? I mean it is
Speaker 1: I mean that visual is it bothers a lot of
Speaker 1: people Although a lot of people are gonna be thrilled
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, this is trump Ism at its best,
Speaker 1: and this is the way no matter what you say,
Speaker 1: no matter what part of the political coin you are on,
Speaker 1: you tell me refute the fact that this is a
Speaker 1: self aggrandizing guy who likes the attention, likes pointing fingers
Speaker 1: at himself. Me me, me, me, me, loves the panoply,
Speaker 1: just loves to be the center of attention, and just
Speaker 1: loves being deified. And here, as leader of the free world,
Speaker 1: all of this massive military might goes past him as
Speaker 1: he salutes, and I'm assuming it'll go on for at
Speaker 1: least an hour, and they keep on adding military gear
Speaker 1: to it. There they've now added missiles, and they've added
Speaker 1: anti missile launchers service to air missiles, and these what vehicles,
Speaker 1: and it just goes on and on, and you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of protests and No Kings, of course, is
Speaker 1: specifically describing that the president as king and we don't
Speaker 1: want him as a king. It's not a specific group either,
Speaker 1: it's sort of a ground you know, grassroots group of people.
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty progressive groups are listed on the
Speaker 1: website as partners. Now. The No Kings protests were announced
Speaker 1: in early May because we knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1: But as the event itself has grown larger and larger,
Speaker 1: the number of protests have grown larger and larger. And
Speaker 1: I you know, I have visions of the troops training
Speaker 1: to goofstep and salute as they pass the president of
Speaker 1: the viewing stand. So did you see pictures of the
Speaker 1: viewing stand and the kind of security that's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is insane. All over the country. There's
Speaker 1: one place where there will be no protests, Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Why well, because no one can get anywhere near what
Speaker 1: is going on. And Trump has said that any demonstration
Speaker 1: will be met with a lot of force. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that in the world of that world, demonstrations are
Speaker 1: considered a part and parcel of the way America should be.
Speaker 1: I think that world is you do not argue. That's
Speaker 1: the other part that I find really troubling. You do
Speaker 1: not argue with this administration. If you do, you're on
Speaker 1: the wrong end. If you were a judge and rules
Speaker 1: a rule against the Trump administration, you are an enemy
Speaker 1: and you are a target. If you are on the
Speaker 1: enemy's list. There is an enemy's list out there. Richard
Speaker 1: Nixon got nailed for that one here not so much.
Speaker 1: I'm sure as hell going to watch this parade. This
Speaker 1: one I'm not going to miss. Can't wait to see
Speaker 1: what happens, So be prepared for the no Kings. And
Speaker 1: I think LA is going to be one of the
Speaker 1: big big ones. As a matter of fact, I want
Speaker 1: to move to LA because the protesting in general, the
Speaker 1: anti ice protesting that's going on all over the country,
Speaker 1: LA is sort of ground zero for that. We've had
Speaker 1: the big million people marches, the Latinos marching and saying
Speaker 1: we are people, We're not illegal. I mean we're talking
Speaker 1: about by the hundreds of thousands. And why is that
Speaker 1: Mexican flag flying? Because I've always said that makes absolutely
Speaker 1: no sense. They are not helping themselves with these Mexican
Speaker 1: flags at all. And I'll tell you why. And people
Speaker 1: somehow are defending that, and I'll explain the defense, and
Speaker 1: it makes absolutely no sense to me because I think
Speaker 1: it's counterintuitive to what they want. I'll explain.
Speaker 2: Good morning, it's Bill Handles with the Morning crew. Neil
Speaker 2: savdri here. Bill Handle is. I don't know, I have
Speaker 2: no idea where Bill handle is, but he should be
Speaker 2: back momentarily, all right, a lot going on here in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, including the protesters and the writing going on.
Speaker 2: I like to separate the two because I have seen
Speaker 2: a distinct difference between the two. But one of the
Speaker 2: things that we have seen is the demonstrators continuing with
Speaker 2: a long tradition that we've seen here in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: of the flying of the red, white, and green flag
Speaker 2: during these anti immigration sentiments. Now I have seen also,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have, but the split
Speaker 2: flag that is split in diagonal and half of it
Speaker 2: is the American flag and the other half is the
Speaker 2: Mexican flag on the flag of Mexico. I've seen those
Speaker 2: as well. But if you see the images of Los
Speaker 2: Angeles and these immigration protests, they oh.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, no, no, no, go ahead. I did this on
Speaker 1: purpose because I wanted your opinion on this. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: That's why i'm That's why i'm late. Hey have you with,
Speaker 1: you know, making coffee, having a little conversation, petting the dogs, peeing?
Speaker 1: What can I tell you?
Speaker 2: But it's hard not to, at least at the bare minimum,
Speaker 2: have a comparison in your head as what would happen
Speaker 2: if Americans in any other country flew American flags and
Speaker 2: protests to make the statement that they should have the
Speaker 2: rights that you know Americans have who are either naturalized
Speaker 2: or you know, have green cards or are I.
Speaker 1: Want to get I want to get into that now.
Speaker 1: I'll explain. And I got an echo coming in when
Speaker 1: you talk, and he also, I think you didn't mute there.
Speaker 1: All right, So what's going on? Whenever you see these protests,
Speaker 1: big time protests, what do you see? You see the
Speaker 1: Mexican flag. The first major protests, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many years ago, the million person protests, not the million
Speaker 1: man march, as far the African Americans were concerned, the
Speaker 1: first Latino March, which has maybe half a million people there,
Speaker 1: I didn't see an American flag. They flew the Mexican flag. Now,
Speaker 1: the demand was to remain in this country, a path citizenship,
Speaker 1: not to be deported. Well, in those days, the deportation
Speaker 1: level with nothing like it is now. I mean nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean it is real fear. There is real deporting
Speaker 1: god going on. I am seeing as I drive along
Speaker 1: from the cars Mexican flags. I don't see American flags
Speaker 1: at all. I see Mexican flags, and you wonder, how
Speaker 1: can anybody be dumb enough to to ask to live
Speaker 1: in this country, to be part of this country, to
Speaker 1: not be deported, and fly the Mexican flag. Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Well, Politico did a bunch of interviews
Speaker 1: and asked people, I mean, you know, people that are
Speaker 1: in the no experts, people have been here a long time,
Speaker 1: people that talk about this sort of thing, teach this
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and it's just crazy. Here's some of
Speaker 1: the answers. It's really about saying we're American, We're Mexican American,
Speaker 1: and we're not ashamed of being Mexican. Huh. Really, it's
Speaker 1: really about being American. Here's another one that kind of
Speaker 1: floored me. You guys like American food, or excuse me,
Speaker 1: you like Mexican food, you like Mexican dancing in the
Speaker 1: Mexican culture. You just don't like Mexicans. So therefore, we
Speaker 1: want to show you how proud we are of being Mexicans. Okay,
Speaker 1: if that's the point, then don't talk about immigration. If
Speaker 1: you just want the people of the United States to say,
Speaker 1: Mexicans are great, we love them, all right, no problem.
Speaker 1: We love to visit, we love Mexican food, we love
Speaker 1: Mexican music. We just don't want Mexicans here, Well, we're
Speaker 1: going to argue how important it is for you to
Speaker 1: accept our culture and our food. That's not what this
Speaker 1: is about. See. I think what these people are somehow
Speaker 1: spinning this and trying to come up with some crap
Speaker 1: ol a reason and not hitting it directly because because
Speaker 1: we're proud to be Mexican, give me a break. I
Speaker 1: mean you probably are. I mean, I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with you being proud to be Mexican. I'm proud
Speaker 1: to be American completely, but I am if I want
Speaker 1: to go to Italy, for example, which I do when
Speaker 1: I retire, I want to live part time in Italy.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the American flag and talk
Speaker 1: about how desperately I want to be in Italy. What
Speaker 1: but you think I'm nuts? I just don't get it.
Speaker 1: I And then the argument is why young people are
Speaker 1: doing this. It's the show to support for their parents.
Speaker 1: So many people are American citizens, second third generation, maybe
Speaker 1: they were first born in this country, very much US
Speaker 1: citizens by birth, but they want to know their parents
Speaker 1: who are illegal, that they're standing with them. So therefore
Speaker 1: that's why we're flying the Mexican flag. You're not doing
Speaker 1: yourselves any favor whatsoever. You fly the Mexican flag at
Speaker 1: a rally where immigration is even brought up, even a
Speaker 1: little tiny bit, you're out of your mind. What you're
Speaker 1: going to do is offend people. What you're doing is
Speaker 1: guarantee that there is a whole swath of Americans that
Speaker 1: are saying, you know, you don't like it here, get
Speaker 1: the hell out. You fly a foreign flag, you fly
Speaker 1: the Mexican flag, and then argue under the Mexican flag
Speaker 1: that you should be Americans, but you don't fly the
Speaker 1: stars and stripes. I mean, that's just dumb. That's just stupid.
Speaker 1: And as I see cars, you know, with the Mexican
Speaker 1: flag flying around, I go, come on, guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to make a point, fly the American
Speaker 1: flag and say this is where I want to go.
Speaker 1: Don't get it. I don't. And as I said, they're
Speaker 1: not doing themselves any favor. Now, this is a fun one.
Speaker 1: Lame is is I think the best musical ever Trump
Speaker 1: went to lay Miss I think it was last night.
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? What does lames mean to other?
Speaker 1: Every everybody else? We sort of have an idea what
Speaker 1: lame is means to Trump. And you can read anything
Speaker 1: in the lay miss anything, and I'll explain, because this
Speaker 1: is a musical for all of us. It's Festivus. It's
Speaker 1: Festivus for all of us. We'll be back. It is
Speaker 1: a Thursday morning, June twelfth, a pan to Brian Wilson
Speaker 1: and the Beach Boys who just died yesterday at the
Speaker 1: age of eighty two. Last night it was the President
Speaker 1: going to the opening of Lame Is at the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 1: It's the first performance that is a musical since he
Speaker 1: certainly that Trump was involved with, since he declared himself
Speaker 1: or appointed himself as the chair, fired all the other
Speaker 1: directors and put in his own people, including Pam Bondi.
Speaker 1: Also Jake Vance is on the board now. And so
Speaker 1: last night was lay mis lay Mis means so much
Speaker 1: to so many people that you have the pundits looking
Speaker 1: at this because on both sides of the political aisle,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, all three sides. Some they
Speaker 1: see something in the musical that's on their side. And
Speaker 1: the President said, I love the songs, I love the play,
Speaker 1: as he went to it, as he attended. And this
Speaker 1: is through July thirteenth, and it is fabulous. By the way,
Speaker 1: I love it. He organized this is a fundraiser, guest
Speaker 1: paying up the two million dollars. Now, most of the
Speaker 1: main cast boycotted the show. They wouldn't perform in the show.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, so many of the performers boycotted,
Speaker 1: they were able to scramble a local high school production
Speaker 1: to actually do the performance. And some may hear dissonance
Speaker 1: between the values of the show and Trumps. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: sort of on the left. But when you look at
Speaker 1: this lame is Can does appeal to the minds of
Speaker 1: just about everybody. Why because the pro Trump people see
Speaker 1: Jean Valjean or Jean Valjean and Trump, both of them
Speaker 1: having been wrongly accused, because that's the premise of the musical,
Speaker 1: wrongly accused, never given the benefit of the doubt, constantly
Speaker 1: hounded by the French police read democrats. The lyric the
Speaker 1: blood of the Martyrs will water the meadows of France. Okay,
Speaker 1: pretty close to the line about the tree of liberty
Speaker 1: needing blood. Thomas Jefferson in a nineteen eighty seven quote,
Speaker 1: the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to
Speaker 1: time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. That has
Speaker 1: been a MAGA slogan for a very long time. The
Speaker 1: Maga movement is about angry people taking back power. Another
Speaker 1: main premise making the world more fair for anyone. Then
Speaker 1: you have the prisoners in the musical singing look down,
Speaker 1: look down, You're here until you die. All right. Now
Speaker 1: you're talking about people of the left looking at ice
Speaker 1: picking up. For example, remember Kilmar Abrego Garcia who was
Speaker 1: picked up, sent to that prison in Venezuela without due process,
Speaker 1: just picking them up, and that's the prisoner singing, look down,
Speaker 1: look down, You're here until you die. Wow. And others
Speaker 1: on the right. We'll talk about defendants in the January
Speaker 1: sixth attack on the Capitol singing the Star Spangled banner,
Speaker 1: looked down, look down, You're here until you die. When
Speaker 1: they were convicted wrongly, and if you remember, they sang
Speaker 1: the spangled banner in prison and Trump used it at
Speaker 1: a rally when he declared those defendants who were convicted
Speaker 1: all patriots, and it was a peaceful demonstration that were
Speaker 1: just snailed. Then you have Fontine, right, the little lead
Speaker 1: that she's forced to give up her child or get sick.
Speaker 1: Some people think of Trump's big tax bill, the Congressional
Speaker 1: Budget Office estimates are going to shift resources with eight
Speaker 1: point six million people losing access to healthcare. The anthem
Speaker 1: that the students sing, Now, this is not about the
Speaker 1: French Revolution, which a lot of people think. It's an
Speaker 1: anti monarchist, anti king student uprising in Paris in eighteen
Speaker 1: thirty two. And anthem do you hear the people sing? Well,
Speaker 1: that's been borrowed by protest groups and Belarus, Philippines, Turkey,
Speaker 1: South Korea. And I'm going to end with my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite quote so far of the administration in Donald Trump. Okay,
Speaker 1: and for those of you that are Maga followers, please
Speaker 1: please defend this if you will, Okay, because this one
Speaker 1: is now, this is just fun. There are no politics here.
Speaker 1: This is pure entertainment. Stephen Chung, Whitehouse Communication Director, said,
Speaker 1: and I quote President Trump is a virtuoso, and his
Speaker 1: musical choices represent a brilliant palette of vibrant colors when
Speaker 1: others often paint in pale pastels. There is no one
Speaker 1: more qualified, more uniquely qualified to bring this country and
Speaker 1: it's rich history of the arts back to prominence. A
Speaker 1: virtue virtuoso. Oh, that's just delicious. No politics there, just
Speaker 1: absolute fun and hilarity. All right. Coming up the organ
Speaker 1: donors who shouldn't have been organ donors. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to share this with you and a personal story, not
Speaker 1: my personal story, Neil's personal story being the recipient of
Speaker 1: an organ from an organ donor. I'll be back the
Speaker 1: story you don't want to miss Thursday morning, June twelfth.
Speaker 1: Some of the stories we are falling. An Air India
Speaker 1: passenger plane bound for London crashed right after takeoff in
Speaker 1: a northwestern city in India, just a minute after taking off.
Speaker 1: No known survivors, I mean exploded in a fireball, and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think there were survivors. Now, there's a story
Speaker 1: that came out of the New York Times, and I
Speaker 1: immediately thought of Neil. Four years ago, there was a
Speaker 1: Kentucky man that, as he was about to be removed
Speaker 1: from life support so his organs could be donated, cried,
Speaker 1: pulled his legs to his checks, shook his head and
Speaker 1: they were still moving forward to remove his organs. Now,
Speaker 1: this is Kentucky, and of course federal investigation kicked in immediately.
Speaker 1: And this was I mean very rare, but hey, federal
Speaker 1: investigation founded officials at a nonprofit in charge of coordinating
Speaker 1: organ donations in Kentucky. This is the way it works
Speaker 1: in all fifty states ignored signs of growing alertness, and
Speaker 1: not only in that patient, but in dozens of others. Now,
Speaker 1: that is one of the fears that there's a real issue,
Speaker 1: because especially in the issue of can organs be paid for?
Speaker 1: For example, if someone poor, can they sell their organs?
Speaker 1: And the fear that there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure to donate organs one be donation to sell organs.
Speaker 1: And so in this case, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure anyway to move forward with the organ donation and
Speaker 1: had no business doing it. Three hundred and fifty cases
Speaker 1: in Kentucky over the past four years, plans to remove
Speaker 1: organs were canceled. Ultimately in seventy three instances, the officials
Speaker 1: of this organ donation should have stopped sooner because the
Speaker 1: patients actually had improving levels of consciousness. They could prove
Speaker 1: the patient was improving. Now, most of those patients were
Speaker 1: in real trouble medically anyways, and they died. And this
Speaker 1: and the reason that this is happening, it's not because
Speaker 1: of brain death. Once your brain debt. Your brain debt,
Speaker 1: that's you don't come back from that. But this is
Speaker 1: donation after circulatory death. Huh. And if family members agree
Speaker 1: to the donation, employees of this nonprofit call a procurement organization.
Speaker 1: They begin testing and then lining up surgeons and recipients.
Speaker 1: And it's a very very big deal and every state
Speaker 1: has at least one of these. And then the patient
Speaker 1: is taken in the operating room. Hospital workers withdraw life
Speaker 1: support and just sit there and wait, and if the
Speaker 1: patient dies within an hour or two, the organs are
Speaker 1: considered viable, and if not, they are not. So this
Speaker 1: is where people had no business donating organs or were
Speaker 1: forced to donate organs. Now comes Neil Neil, recipient of
Speaker 1: a kidney where just before the surgery, the young lady
Speaker 1: before she was put under, started screaming, I've changed my mind.
Speaker 1: She had sellers remorse, no, no, don't, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it. I don't want to do it, and
Speaker 1: they went forward anyway, Neil.
Speaker 2: Locked her on the head with a big stick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, this is a scary as hell because some of
Speaker 2: these people, yes, they died very soon after, but some
Speaker 2: of them actually walked out of the hospital.
Speaker 1: I know very few, but even one. And yeah, here's
Speaker 1: the story, not the Oregon donor for Neil who she.
Speaker 2: Said she was a living donor and still alive. And
Speaker 2: Julie is.
Speaker 1: And still and still has sellers remorse to this day.
Speaker 1: She feels great.
Speaker 2: And I've met her.
Speaker 1: I've met her. She's a delight.
Speaker 2: She's a big bill Handle fan for some reason.
Speaker 1: Well she's more of a Neil Sevadra fan than she
Speaker 1: is a bill Handle fan, clearly.
Speaker 2: Oh she's a bigger bill Handle fan. I just happened
Speaker 2: to need an organ. Oh yeah, So if she had
Speaker 2: a pig valve, I'm sure you would have gotten it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, probably. And here's the story I want
Speaker 1: to share with you because it has to do with
Speaker 1: a pressure from hospitals in these organ donation places when
Speaker 1: you have someone who has suffered a traumatic injury, either
Speaker 1: in a car accident or being shot or whatever, where
Speaker 1: organs are still viable. Lindsey's sister in law, at the
Speaker 1: age of forty six, had a seizure. She had some
Speaker 1: medical problems and had a seizure where she ended up
Speaker 1: being brain dead. It's a horrific story and the family
Speaker 1: to their credit immediately at her death or upon the
Speaker 1: termination that she was brain dead and was on life support,
Speaker 1: said to the hospital authorities that she wanted She was
Speaker 1: always in favor of organ donation and wanted to donate
Speaker 1: her organs, which ended up happening. There were some liver
Speaker 1: issues involved those organs weren't going, but the heart and
Speaker 1: the lungs and the pancreas and the bones and the
Speaker 1: eyeballs which they use. And the family went to said
Speaker 1: to the hospital, we want to donate her organs. They said, wow,
Speaker 1: very few people just up and are in favor of
Speaker 1: this immediately. Usually it takes the hospital has to talk
Speaker 1: people family members into it, because there you have a
Speaker 1: person who is alive, who's on life support, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to accept that this person is actually dead.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting that the hospital
Speaker 1: was surprised. Also. We talked to Jim Keeney, and as
Speaker 1: you have the patient who is now dead, brain dead,
Speaker 1: going into an operating room to donate the organs, there
Speaker 1: is as the leurney goes past, everybody in the hospital
Speaker 1: lines up and it's basically a walk of honor, even
Speaker 1: though they're being rolled where the hospital staff appreciates that
Speaker 1: this family, that this person and the family are taking
Speaker 1: this horrific incident and are going to save people's lives
Speaker 1: with it. I am a huge fan of organ donation
Speaker 1: and I have been an organ donor for well four years,
Speaker 1: decades and decades, and a lot of people are very
Speaker 1: upset that I haven't yet to donate an organ because
Speaker 1: they wanted it to happen much much sooner.
Speaker 2: Well in proof that you know, people can still have
Speaker 2: long jobs after being brain dead, so.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely crazy. Thank you very much. Okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: the joke about your donor wanting the kidney back. You
Speaker 1: do the joke on the other side.
Speaker 2: Okay, could you imagine total buyers from Morris that just like, hey, listen, uh,
Speaker 2: kind of what.
Speaker 1: I think back, Yeah, I'd rather not. I'd rather not.
Speaker 1: Yeah in my case, yeah, we could do it, but
Speaker 1: you know die anyway. Okay, coming out Joel Larsgard, which
Speaker 1: we do every Thursday at the host of How to Money,
Speaker 1: we'll do that right here, KF I am sixty. You've
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