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Speaker 1: aviation experts Jay ratlifts updates and information on what's going
Speaker 1: on in the world of air traffic and aviation generally speaking,
Speaker 1: and goofy things that happen. Welcome back, Jay Ratliff. Love
Speaker 1: having you on the show. I love the goofy things
Speaker 1: we talk about right now.
Speaker 2: It's the best part.
Speaker 1: And this isn't intend to be a curveball recognizing you.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Hair comes, No, I know, yeah yeah, Joe
Speaker 4: Warren me here comes.
Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines, one of your topics, had a council more
Speaker 1: than seven hundred flights due to weather, which I understand,
Speaker 1: but ongoing computer issues. And I woke up this morning
Speaker 1: and saw this article. United Airlines temporarily grounded all of
Speaker 1: its mainline flights yesterday due to a technical issue, although
Speaker 1: the articles from Fox nineteen that I read rather sketchy
Speaker 1: on the details.
Speaker 2: Do you know why?
Speaker 5: I mean all of their flights?
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a ground stop and anything that hadn't
Speaker 4: taken off wasn't going to take off. And that we
Speaker 4: have this happen every so often. Of course, Southwest has
Speaker 4: had their computer issues before in the past that happened
Speaker 4: at the worst possible time around Christmas. You've had United,
Speaker 4: even Delta and others that have had these issues with
Speaker 4: their computer systems, and you just hope that they crash
Speaker 4: may not be the appropriate word, but that they malfunction
Speaker 4: in May or September, because those are the two slowest
Speaker 4: travel months of the year.
Speaker 5: But they don't.
Speaker 4: It's like the car conks out on us at the
Speaker 4: most critical time we need it.
Speaker 5: And it's the same sort of situation.
Speaker 4: Here and with United when they ground their fleet, and
Speaker 4: even for a short period of time, the residual impact
Speaker 4: on that it goes for days and it could be
Speaker 4: Monday or Tuesday before everybody's going to get to where
Speaker 4: they're going. Because when you're talking about this time of
Speaker 4: the year, when most of the flights are filled or
Speaker 4: at capacity or close to it, you have ten thousand
Speaker 4: people that maybe got are on canceled flights. Where are
Speaker 4: you going to put them? I mean, it just it
Speaker 4: makes it so problematic. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 4: that I tell people when they reach out to me
Speaker 4: when they're having and experiencing these kinds of flight interruption issues,
Speaker 4: to help out the agent as much as you can.
Speaker 4: You know, Sherry, I've been in specific cities trying to
Speaker 4: get home, and I tell the agent, get us to
Speaker 4: any airport in Ohio, any airport I will drive from
Speaker 4: from Cleveland to I don't care because you know, coming
Speaker 4: into Cincinnati or Dayton, perhaps the flights are filled. And
Speaker 4: if I can give them the option of you know,
Speaker 4: four or five different airports, it really enhances our chances
Speaker 4: of getting home. Now, look, I've got to pay for
Speaker 4: the rental car to get us back, so I make
Speaker 4: sure that that's available first. But if that's the case, point,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can help the agent out. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it means the difference between a day or two and
Speaker 4: getting home or getting to your destination.
Speaker 1: Well, and I always consider the time value of money.
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm going to sit around an airport
Speaker 1: for four or five six hours and I have to
Speaker 1: pay a few hundred dollars for the car, I'm going
Speaker 1: with the car I want home. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: piddle around in an airport or spend a night in
Speaker 1: a hotel room just to take advantage of getting flown home.
Speaker 4: Well, I tell people all the time to go as
Speaker 4: far as you can, as fast as you can, because
Speaker 4: I've seen people say, now I'll just wait for that
Speaker 4: next flight four hours from now, and then that flight
Speaker 4: cancels four hours. Lord, So now you're spending the night
Speaker 4: until the next day, and you're kicking yourself. And that's
Speaker 4: why if I can get out of town now, I'm
Speaker 4: going to do it, and I'll go as far as
Speaker 4: I can, as fast as I can, because you simply know,
Speaker 4: especially as the day progresses, because once we get into
Speaker 4: the early afternoon evening hours, when a lot of these
Speaker 4: previously delayed flights really start to become more of an issue,
Speaker 4: problems tend to get worse versus better. And that's why
Speaker 4: you know, I love flying early in the day, getting
Speaker 4: out on that originating flight if I can.
Speaker 5: That's my personal preference, all right.
Speaker 1: So at least in so far as United shut down
Speaker 1: and the Southwest Airlines shutdown, none of this relates to
Speaker 1: the shall we say safety on the aircraft itself. It's
Speaker 1: all external reservations and computer issues in terms of booking
Speaker 1: and getting people on the flights.
Speaker 4: Right, right, it would be a lot like you if
Speaker 4: you have let's just transportation wise, Let's say you've got
Speaker 4: a truck full of cargo ready to go, but they
Speaker 4: don't have the paperwork they need to leave, right, that's it.
Speaker 4: Everything's working fine, they just don't have what they need
Speaker 4: to begin the journey, and that's that's what takes place there.
Speaker 4: I've been through more than a few of the computer
Speaker 4: issues where we had problems with the weather release, flight
Speaker 4: release or something else that needed to be generated from
Speaker 4: a waiting ballot standpoint that slowed things down operationally. And
Speaker 4: it's tough, but it's it's nothing that relates to safety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to envision that ripple effect when
Speaker 1: you're shutting.
Speaker 5: Down all this air. Oh yeah, it's got either ing here.
Speaker 5: Oh not what you want.
Speaker 1: Eight thirty five ify five cares of the dog station.
Speaker 1: Don't vape on an airplane apparently that and more coming
Speaker 1: up with Jay Rattler.
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Speaker 5: Have you ever been in a cockpit before?
Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe has a thirty eight on a Thursday talking
Speaker 1: aviation news with I heard needy aviation expert Jay ratleft
Speaker 1: and don't vape on an airplane. I guess Jay a
Speaker 1: lesson to be learned here.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, probably because I don't know a felony and
Speaker 4: they talk about it all the time before departing. No
Speaker 4: smoking in the laboratories, no vapingh There was a gentleman
Speaker 4: on an American Airlines flight went to the laboratory, thought
Speaker 4: he and that really didn't apply to me, So he
Speaker 4: starts vaping, and unbeknownst to him that the alarm in
Speaker 4: the cockpit goes off, indicating that you know, somebody's doing
Speaker 4: what they're not supposed to do.
Speaker 1: They got VAT detectors, they have VAIT detectors in the bathrooms, They've.
Speaker 4: Got all kinds of stuff visuals there. Well, you want
Speaker 4: to know if somebody's smoking, and the alarms are set
Speaker 4: up for a reason, because if a fire breaks out,
Speaker 4: it's your toast. I mean, you can't get the airplane
Speaker 4: on ground fast enough. So what ends up taking place
Speaker 4: is the flight tens go and they open up the
Speaker 4: door and there he is sitting in vaping.
Speaker 5: Well, you don't have the right to open up the
Speaker 5: door on me.
Speaker 4: And he went on to proclaim that he was important.
Speaker 4: He had twenty five thousand followers. Brian, I mean that
Speaker 4: makes him. I think he's in at least the top
Speaker 4: five five million people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know who I am. That's it, brother.
Speaker 4: And then he goes on to say, and I love this.
Speaker 4: He says, I have a lawyer, I'm a lawyer. Blah
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. This is when the police are
Speaker 4: boarding and he says justice is about to be served.
Speaker 4: That I think was one of his last Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's right. Justice is about to be served and your
Speaker 4: butt is going away.
Speaker 5: Now. I don't know if you'll be charged with a felony.
Speaker 5: He should be.
Speaker 4: He will never be a lot of the fly in
Speaker 4: American airlines. I get that you'll face a pretty good
Speaker 4: fine from the Federal Aviation Administration, but it's just one
Speaker 4: of those reminders that you just don't do stuff that's
Speaker 4: going to get you in trouble. Now's if it's a
Speaker 4: severe enough infraction, they could actually divert the plane to
Speaker 4: another location in land to get you off the airplane,
Speaker 4: and that inconveniences you and does a lot of things.
Speaker 4: I think it opens you up to a lot of
Speaker 4: civil suits that people want to sue you for what
Speaker 4: you caused to happen to their flight that has been
Speaker 4: missing certain things in their life, business meetings, funerals.
Speaker 5: Those types of things.
Speaker 4: So but again, you know, this type of stuff happens,
Speaker 4: and when you recognize maybe two to three million people
Speaker 4: a day that fly, I think statistically we should be
Speaker 4: we don't have these things happen more often because when
Speaker 4: they do happen, social media makes it clear of who's
Speaker 4: doing what And yeah, this guy was trying to play
Speaker 4: the victim card and I don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: Wow, well I learned something today. There's no other vape
Speaker 1: detectors in bathrooms on airlines.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've always viewed vaping as fairly inocuous compared to actually smoking.
Speaker 1: You got to have fire or smoke. The smell is
Speaker 1: obviously much much greater with smoke. The smoke actually clings
Speaker 1: to the surface of your clothes, and you reclect cigarettes,
Speaker 1: and I get all that, but vaping it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I've sat next to people who have vaped and you
Speaker 1: can barely even smell the whatever flavor it is they're vaping.
Speaker 1: Let alone have any concerns like secondhand smoke concerns. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: Just well, sometimes when you are vaping and smoking, sometimes
Speaker 4: the smell to somebody like me could seem the same,
Speaker 4: so it would be you know, and again I'm no
Speaker 4: expert on it, But the point is we've had some
Speaker 4: very bad things happen in the history of aviation when
Speaker 4: people have been smoking on board aircraft when they we're
Speaker 4: supposed to and to dispose of the evidence, they throw
Speaker 4: the uh you know the quote extinguished cigarette into the
Speaker 4: trash can fully you find out it's not extinguished and
Speaker 4: it catches on fire.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's these are.
Speaker 4: The types of things that you have to make sure
Speaker 4: that you take as seriously as you need to, because
Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of serious consequences when things
Speaker 4: go bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you there, and you know, I understand
Speaker 1: combustibility and the idea that smoking is far more dangerous,
Speaker 1: But if it's the smell then becomes the issue because
Speaker 1: of vaping. Are we going to have like shower requirements
Speaker 1: and deodorant requirements for people to get on airplanes?
Speaker 4: Jay Bright, I've had to tell people they couldn't fly
Speaker 4: because it's not like they hadn't had a bath.
Speaker 5: In three months.
Speaker 1: Oh lord almighty.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a very delicate conversation that you have
Speaker 4: to have. But that is, you know, or you know,
Speaker 4: if somebody's acting a certain way, or if they appear
Speaker 4: to be under the influence of something I mean these are,
Speaker 4: or if they're just rowdy and they're the point where
Speaker 4: they're belligerent, you have to pull them off to the
Speaker 4: side and explain to them that they're not gonna be
Speaker 4: allowed to take this particular.
Speaker 5: Flight, but don't worry. We're going to get you on
Speaker 5: another one.
Speaker 4: We'll take care of you, and then even by launch
Speaker 4: to cand of help you kill time. But it's the
Speaker 4: airlines have the right to deny boarding to us for
Speaker 4: a variety of reasons, if somebody's not wearing enough clothing,
Speaker 4: or somebody's wearing offensive clothing. I agreed some of this
Speaker 4: is subjective, but when you try to figure out what's
Speaker 4: going to be in the best interest of the people
Speaker 4: that are flying, you can't, you know, prohibit every single
Speaker 4: piece of offensive material. But it went so bad that
Speaker 4: during the Clinton Trump stuff that sometimes people that were
Speaker 4: wearing a Trump shirt with some airlines that was considered
Speaker 4: something that other passengers could find offensive. Now, obviously, if
Speaker 4: it's a Trump shirt and he's flipping people off, I
Speaker 4: get that. But some of these were just a Trump
Speaker 4: shirt that people said that that's offensive, and you talk
Speaker 4: about ridiculous.
Speaker 5: That's how far down that path we went.
Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome was alive, and well maybe not anymore
Speaker 1: very much. So all right, well, let's see if we
Speaker 1: can get this other one in before we take a break.
Speaker 1: Here of parents leaving on vacation have a passport problem
Speaker 1: as a I guess this resulted in a social media
Speaker 1: a frenzy. So what's this about you?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Good lord?
Speaker 4: You know this may be one of those ones. You say, Jay,
Speaker 4: you're making this up, but I am not. A family
Speaker 4: goes to an airport in Spain.
Speaker 5: They're going on.
Speaker 4: Vacation, mom, dad, and at least one child, they may
Speaker 4: have had two, I don't know. But the ten year
Speaker 4: old had a passport that was expired. He couldn't fly, okay,
Speaker 4: so they left him. They left him, they left, they
Speaker 4: went on vacation. Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 4: my son's expired passport, Marian interfere.
Speaker 5: With my vacation. These moms, mom, and dad get.
Speaker 4: On the plane, leave, They call a relative to come
Speaker 4: pick up their son at the airport, which eventually I
Speaker 4: guess they.
Speaker 5: Would have done.
Speaker 4: Now what kind of meant and I can't call these
Speaker 4: people parents? Now, what kind of mentality do you have
Speaker 4: when it's okay with you to leave a ten year
Speaker 4: old at an international airport? Well, you get to go
Speaker 4: on vacation. I mean, because it was clearly the ten
Speaker 4: year old's fault that his pastor was expired because you know,
Speaker 4: they're all responsible for their own passports. No, it was
Speaker 4: clearly mom and Dad's fault, and just yeah, so that's
Speaker 4: why it went boom viral immediately, because who most people
Speaker 4: don't let their kids go to the bathroom by themselves,
Speaker 4: right at maybe ten years of age, But to leave
Speaker 4: them alone at an airport when my god, anything could
Speaker 4: happen to them, it just yeah. So I don't know
Speaker 4: what sort of legal fallback.
Speaker 5: They're going to have.
Speaker 1: They've got to have something visits, some child family protective
Speaker 1: services in order, I would hope.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying necessarily a firing squad that might
Speaker 4: be a little extreme here, but the idea that this
Speaker 4: child and who knows what he has.
Speaker 5: To put up with when they're not at airport, oh god, but.
Speaker 4: The thought process of leaving somebody, you know, there are
Speaker 4: I have to report on sad, sad, sad stories when
Speaker 4: people show up with dogs at airports to find out
Speaker 4: they've got to pay extra and they walk away from
Speaker 4: the dog and abandon their pet.
Speaker 5: I mean that breaks my heart. Do you do it
Speaker 5: to a ten year old? Right?
Speaker 4: And that's why you'll never hear me say those words
Speaker 4: I talk about, I've seen it all.
Speaker 5: It's arrogant, it's asinine.
Speaker 4: I'll never utter those words because I'll never underestimate how
Speaker 4: stupid people can act sometimes, and this is one of
Speaker 4: those situations.
Speaker 1: Well, inevitably the bar will be lowered even further down
Speaker 1: the road someday, Jay carry fintain. It really is more
Speaker 1: problems at Boeing? Can it get any worse for Boeing?
Speaker 1: That and hub delays coming up next. It's eight forty
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Speaker 1: It's eight forty nine on a Thursday Tech Friday with
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Speaker 1: one more sevent here with Iramedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
Speaker 1: WHOA what more could go wrong? And Boeing Jay, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, you know they're facing a work stoppage and this
Speaker 4: is from a smaller group is about thirty two hundred
Speaker 4: people and they rejected the contract and they're on strike
Speaker 4: and they're thinking, okay, well, last year at this time
Speaker 4: you and I were talking about a different Boeing strike
Speaker 4: that had thirty three thousand people walk off the job
Speaker 4: that lasts for seven weeks.
Speaker 5: This is thirty two hundred.
Speaker 4: You're thinking, Wow, the number seems a little bit easier
Speaker 4: maybe for Boeing to manage. The problem is that these
Speaker 4: are the individuals that work on the defense contract.
Speaker 5: Side of things.
Speaker 4: Oh and that represents about a third of Boeing's yearly revenue.
Speaker 4: So this is a significant group of people. And I'm
Speaker 4: really hoping that this doesn't go seven weeks, and I
Speaker 4: doubt that it will. But you know, they turned down
Speaker 4: a contract that could have given them up to I
Speaker 4: think about a forty percent pay increase over time, five
Speaker 4: thousand dollars bonus and some other things, and it wasn't
Speaker 4: good enough, and they're looking for something that and this
Speaker 4: is really I'd almost say it's one of the last
Speaker 4: hurtles that Boeing has from an employee standpoint. But they've
Speaker 4: got most everything else in line and they're turning things
Speaker 4: around in a very positive way. And certainly we wanted
Speaker 4: to continue because this.
Speaker 5: Isn't just a Boeing issue.
Speaker 4: Boeing has just a tremendous number of support businesses that
Speaker 4: they deal with that depend on Boeing that you know,
Speaker 4: for supplies, services and things of that. Yeah, and we talked.
Speaker 4: It was in April when their stock had dipped down
Speaker 4: to that one hundred and thirty four dollars a share
Speaker 4: or something. It's up to two twenty five to two
Speaker 4: thirty at this point in time because they're doing a
Speaker 4: lot of things right. The production of their aircraft is
Speaker 4: improving there, they're getting more FAA support on some of
Speaker 4: the changes that they're making and some things that need
Speaker 4: to take place. But you know, here's another hurdle for
Speaker 4: the Boeing management team to cross, and I suspect that
Speaker 4: they're going to handle it pretty well. And again internally
Speaker 4: from a management standpoint, they're putting some people in power
Speaker 4: that have engineering backgrounds and that thrills me because that's
Speaker 4: the Boeing of old and I hope that continues well, so.
Speaker 1: Do I I mean, the ripple effect. Wasn't even considering that.
Speaker 1: But clearly, these thirty two hundred folks being involved in
Speaker 1: military related contracts, they've got a lot of leverage over
Speaker 1: Bowing considering the amounts of revenue that is.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And do you think there might be a
Speaker 4: little pressure coming from DC thing get this settled, because
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a national defense conversation. Too, when
Speaker 4: you're talking about a delay in some of the technology
Speaker 4: that we need to keep going. So that's one of
Speaker 4: the reasons I think it's going to be a significant
Speaker 4: shall we say, Oh, I guess priority for boeing to
Speaker 4: get resolved one way or another. And of course the
Speaker 4: people that walk are clearly aware of that, so you know,
Speaker 4: we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1: Yes, we will keep the popcorn out on it. And
Speaker 1: we always done on hub delays, Jay, why not end
Speaker 1: on them today? What's it like to travel out there?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think our problem children of the day are
Speaker 4: going to be Charlotte and Miami. Those two hubs I
Speaker 4: think could see some weather related delays. I think they're
Speaker 4: going to be minimal. I don't think any more about
Speaker 4: thirty minutes or so. I mean, you know, all bets
Speaker 4: are off. As far as any of the afternoon pop
Speaker 4: up storms, it could slow things down, but it's this
Speaker 4: point in time, it looks like it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: pretty decent day to travel. Still a good bit of
Speaker 4: turbulence it's out there, so if you're flying, it's not dangerous,
Speaker 4: just keep your seat belt fastened about it's just uncomfortable
Speaker 4: as you go through it. It can be a little unnerving,
Speaker 4: but believe me, having that seat belt off, kissing the
Speaker 4: ceiling is no fun. So please remember to get to
Speaker 4: the airport tours before departure, and please keep that seat
Speaker 4: belt fastened about you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, every time, real quick here, I just have
Speaker 1: every time you mentioned keeping the seat belts fastened. I
Speaker 1: think of these photographs that I've seen about air travel
Speaker 1: of old days when they had like table settings and
Speaker 1: real silverware and plates and salt and pepper shakers and
Speaker 1: all that out there, that stuff's going everywhere.
Speaker 4: Well, we had a delta flight think coming out of Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: They had some turbulence where things went everywhere. Those pictures
Speaker 4: are online now, so if you google, you know, delta
Speaker 4: turbulence and you see the images of the bag carts,
Speaker 4: the food wherever. Yeah, looks like I mean, things were
Speaker 4: just thrown about.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Injuries from hitting the ceiling and injuries from things hitting you,
Speaker 4: especially when the food service is ongoing, because you never
Speaker 4: know what's going to happen until you're.
Speaker 5: On top of it, and it can get rough, Yes,
Speaker 5: it can.
Speaker 1: I've experienced some really wild turbulence of my limited flying days.
Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, thank you so much for spending time with
Speaker 1: listeners with me every Thursday. I truly appreciate enjoying our conversations.
Speaker 1: I'm already looking forward to next Thursday, another opportunity to
Speaker 1: speak with you, my friend,