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Speaker 1: And let's bring her in right now. She is with

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us via Microsoft Teams. Lydia Ready, Hello, Lydia.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good, welcome back. It's great to speak with you. You know,

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we uh we talked recently your your first single, Turned

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This Town Around, which we love. And then uh, and

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then we received this, uh, the Way We're Rolling, which

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I think we played was it a week or two

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or a couple of weeks ago? Actually the American radio

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premiere of that? Another great great track from you. I

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really like this a lot and absolutely, and so let's

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get into it. What what is this song about? I mean,

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I know what I took from it, but but tell us, uh,

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in your own words, what what is the meaning of

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this song? The Way We're Rolling?

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Speaker 4: This song is about just being completely yourself and loving

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yourself for who you are and loving each other.

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Speaker 1: And I think what I got from it too, it

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was also there's a strong message I think there about

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acceptance and yeah, and not you know a lot of

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people and in are current not to get into this

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part of it, really, but you know, just in America,

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and I'm sure you see it from over there. Uh,

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you know, there's there's a lot of attention, a lot

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of people who have problems with other people who are

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different from them. And unfortunately that's always a facet of

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American life to some degree, it seems like right now

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it's it's gotten pretty dicey. But and and so sometimes

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I don't I don't know if they use the term

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there when talking about this, but in America, uh, people

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like to use the word tolerance or you know, you

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have to you have to tolerate people who are different.

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And I've never liked the word tolerance. I prefer the

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word acceptance because tolerance to me kind of sounds like, oh,

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you know, I don't really like people who are different

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from me, but I guess I can tolerate them, you know.

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I've always preferred the word acceptance. And that's when when

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I listen to that song, that's what I get from

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that song, that it's really about acceptance, because we should

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we should celebrate our distance, our differences, not be uh,

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you know, not be fearful because of them, and and

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not to ostracize people because of them or other wise people,

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but but we should accept them. And that's that's kind

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of what I what I got from that And and

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a sense of acceptance and solidarity. Am I Am I

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right about that? Or am I reading too much into it?

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Speaker 5: Or what?

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Speaker 1: Say you?

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Speaker 2: No, You're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is a little bit deeper than just like loving yourself.

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It is about like all that kind of stuff. There

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is a lot of hate in the world at the moment,

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in probably all areas of the world, and I was

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I'm just sick of it. I was like, you know what,

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if a few people can aime a song and start

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accepting some other people, then my job's done.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm happy, right right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting too is because you know, yeah, there is

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a little bit of a deeper meaning. And and when

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we talked about Turn This Town Around, we we had

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kind of a similar discussion in the sense and by

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the way, we're gonna play that track again too. We're

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gonna play that one at the end of our conversation

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because I love I still love that song too. But

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what's so interesting about that song to me is, you know,

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if you're just listening to it sort of casually, not

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necessarily paying close attention to the lyrics, it just sounds

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like a catchy, fun song almost like you know, you're

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you know, you're gonna you're gonna, uh, you know, really

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make your mark in this town. This whatever talent it

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is you're referring to in the song, and you know,

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there's it's got a certain anthemic quality to it, But

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it's only if you really pay attention to the lyrics

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that you realize that there's something deeper going on. There's

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a deeper meaning, and you're expressing concerns that maybe other

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people don't have but should have, you know, things that

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we should all be be concerned about and worried about.

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there's a there's a real serious message there. And I

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the through line between them, right, they're both catchy and fun,

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the lyrics, there's some very important messaging underneath that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely what I've been trying to do.

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Speaker 4: I feel a lot of the time, if you have

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kind of a serious message and partner it with serious,

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gloomy music.

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Speaker 2: People might just skip on.

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Speaker 4: But if you can't put this serious message with some

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a bit more catchy and up be it'll make people

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hopefully like want to keep listening to it and then

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because of that understand the lyrics and the meaning behind it.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Is that important to you as an artist,

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because I mean, I'm sure that you know if you

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wanted to, and maybe you will in the future, maybe

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maybe you'll have a song that that really is just

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kind of catchy and fun and it's and that's all

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it is. It's just like a catchy fund sing along

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anthem or something. But is it is it really like,

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is it something that you do deliberately when you write

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these songs, you deliberately and intentionally put something serious underneath.

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Is that important to you as an artist?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is.

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Speaker 4: I've got quite a mixed obviously, not the ones that

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are out now, but I've got some coming out that

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are just kind of fun, catchy. I've got one called

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X Business, which is just about like saying screw you

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to your X pre much and a few like that.

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Speaker 2: My next song that's coming out that's called look.

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Speaker 4: At Me Now, and it's not quite as on a

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big scale as in it's more involving acceptance as a world,

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it's more like when people try and put you down,

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but your rise up and you're like, look at me, now,

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I'm better than ever. That kind of vibe, and that's

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gonna be a bit rockier. But I think for especially

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this first EP, that I'm releasing my whole theme as

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I want there to be these big messages within these

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catchy melodies. The second EP is where it's gonna go

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a little bit more fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that. So the trajectory so

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you have, so you have an EP, is the EP finished?

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Speaker 4: The first one I finished recording them, but they're not

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, so but the EP has done. So then

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t A on when the EP will be out?

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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking, let me ever think, Yeah, it will

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be out a little bit, probably early April, late March

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, interesting? And then what is it? Five tracks?

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Speaker 2: It is, it's five.

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Speaker 1: Five five Okay, very good, very good. It's it's so interesting,

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how you know, there's so many different ways to release

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however you choose to do it. There's there's really uh

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limitless options. But I think the I think these first

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two are really strong. And then so will there be

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a third single before the EP or or will you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's going to be another single.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been announced yet, but it's gonna be in

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around two months time, okay, and that's look at me

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now that I was just talking about. Okay, and then

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we thought we want to wait until after Christmas because

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people to bother about new music.

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Speaker 2: So probably January ish. I was well wrong when I

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said April January ish.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna put out like the whole EPA with the last

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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent. And then so but you're already talking about

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the next EP too. You you mentioned the next one,

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the next one? Because I think you said that the

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next EP that you do is gonna be a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the next one is like a concept EP, so

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it's all about kind of this relationship journey. So the

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first song on it is called why Do I Like You?

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wanting to but you can't help it. That's the very

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poppy song, quite cynthie. Then you've got one called real Life,

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this point you've broken up and he's trying to get

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whole story planned out. That's that's excellent. Yeah, that's excellent. Yeah. Yeah,

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that before when you're on the show, because you know,

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the wall and see what sticks. And there's nothing wrong

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if you're if you don't have a long term plan,

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plan is just trying different things and seeing what works.

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think that's I think that's great. Is that important to

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you to have a sense of certainty about where you're

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going and what you're doing and how you're going to

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approach this? Is that important to you as an artist?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think it's definitely very important because especially I've seen

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my brother is three years older than me, and he's

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been doing music since he was forty and he's twenty now,

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so I've seen him do everything, and I know how

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important it is to have these release plans and knowing

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exactly what's happening when in order to try and be successful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I remember you mentioning your brother too.

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Does he refresh my memory now? And of course newer

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listeners who might not have heard our previous conversation. Is

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he involved in the production of your music?

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Speaker 2: So he is in a few of the songs.

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bass parts because I write the songs and I can

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but I'm not very good at it, so I get

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them to play it when I'm recording them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha? And what happens in terms of live

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do you do you play these out? Have you performed

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Speaker 4: But now as I'm recording the songs, I'm actually getting

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Speaker 2: But behind the scenes, which.

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together a show for my eighteenth birthday next year in April.

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release it in December and the tickets.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah, So I don't

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I I all right, well, I'll ask you the question,

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and if you don't want to answer, I'll respect that.

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Speaker 2: But single time and the outlet, well.

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because you know, we're we're fans. We like what you're doing.

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is he does he have a band currently?

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about him too. Did you come from a musical family?

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Speaker 1: Are your parents also musicians?

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since I was tiny, And my grandma is a singer,

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so we think he might have come from my grandma.

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that that can make a huge difference, you know, especially

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encouraging you, you know, because sometimes you know, some some

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families don't necessarily encourage their kids. You know, they'll say,

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be doing. But you know, and they might not take

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it seriously. You know, we've all heard those stories of

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don't do that, don't play in a band, don't make music,

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you know, just focus on school, focus on whatever. But

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school now? Are you in college?

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Speaker 2: I'm in college, so over here that's ages.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen to eighteen, okay, And I'm doing these things called

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but pretty much I've got to get through them under

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Speaker 2: It's all sounded very confusing.

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the end of next year, so it'll be summer next year,

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and then I'm hoping to go to university, which is

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you do three years in UNI and then you can

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hopefully get this fancy certificate and get a job.

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Speaker 1: Do you know yet? And I only ask because you know,

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plan to study music when you go to university?

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so you know. So it sounds like, I mean, actually

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that might even be more helpful to you in terms

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of your music career, you know than you know, studying

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a lot of music theory and all that, like, you know,

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learning the marketing especially you know, in the era that

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remember when it was you know, a pre inter I'm

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generation X. You know, I'm the last generation to grow

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up without the Internet. So I've seen everything change so much,

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and I think it's more important and beneficial now than

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ever to really understand marketing as an artist, because it's

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not like when you know, you get signed to a

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label and they just do everything for you and all

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you have to worry about is show up and play

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and record or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: Like now, the more control that you can have over

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your own marketing and distribution and social media, all of it.

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The more control that you can have, I think, the

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better off you are long term. And like I said,

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you know, you're obviously a long term planner, so so

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I think that's a great direction for you to go. Actually,

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I think I think I'll be very very useful to you,

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you know, and and something to fall back on too.

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That gives you, you know, you'll be able to, you know,

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get a job anywhere you want really with that kind

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of background, So I think that's great.

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Speaker 4: There's so many jobs in that industry that I can

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go into. And then I think on the side, probably

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Friday Saturday evenings, I've got to pubs and do gigs there,

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so i'd still always have music.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, there you go. Absolutely, I think

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that's a great I think that's a great direction to go. Well, Lydia,

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we appreciate you joining us again. Love the new single,

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and in a moment we're going to play turn this

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Town Around and we'll kind of we'll cap off the

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segment with that. But I want to make sure our

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listeners know where should they go online to keep up

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with everything that you're doing. Where's the best place to

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go online?

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Speaker 4: So mostly on Instagram under Lydia Ready music ready spelled

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r E D D.

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Speaker 2: Why that's on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: But I do also have a Facebook account, but that's

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private at the moment because it won't let me change

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it until I'm eighteen. And it's the same with my

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TikTok accoun but I can accept people to go onto those.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, excellent.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, my Instagram's fully public.

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Speaker 1: Any music okay, okay, very good and before we let

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you go in before we play this track, remind us

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again again for listeners who might not have heard our

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previous conversation about turn this town around? What what are you?

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What are you expressing with this song? I'll let you.

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I mean I kind of talked about it, but in

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your own words, what are you? What are you addressing

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with this?

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Speaker 2: So this song, let's.

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Speaker 4: Put it in easy terms, just kind of like looking

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after the world and looking after each other as much

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as you can do.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, no, perfectly said, absolutely well, Lydia ready, Thank

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you so much. Always wonderful to talk with you. I

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look forward to I look forward to the next single

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and uh hopefully we can give it the American radio

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premiere here on this side of the pond when it's ready.

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So I look forward to speaking to you again. And

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we're gonna hit We're gonna hit this track. We'll let

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you go for now. But thanks Lydia, great, Thank you

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see later at it. Bye bye, all right. That is

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Lydia ready, And if you missed it, we played at

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the beginning of our conversation her newest single, The Way

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We're Rolling, which is which is great. But we might

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we might sneak it in again at the end of

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the show today because I really do like that song

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very much. But we're also going to play this to

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end our conversation and then Jenny and I will be

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back on the other side of this with h We've

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got another very interesting music industry news story to share

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with you. But here it is. This is Turned This

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Town Around. This is the first single. And by the way,

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we were the first American radio station to play this

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from Lydia.

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Speaker 7: Ready, what's that sound? What's that sounded?

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Speaker 8: Home?

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Speaker 7: Our way up?

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Speaker 3: Burns down?

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Speaker 10: Make see scream and chef hand.

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Speaker 9: Out, turn this town around?

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Speaker 2: Stop and look this way. I made some use officials.

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Speaker 10: What us here is what I see?

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Speaker 9: And this is a travesty the earth are trying to

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know and you don't see the tragedy. It's all blurring

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all it's one and dies a blinded. We think it's typical,

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but that's just cause it's so shallow.

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Speaker 7: My dad set sound?

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Speaker 2: What set sound? Get our my way or burns down?

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Speaker 9: Mixie and scream and shout and I'll turn this town round.

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Pee everywhere if it your parts and nurture and to

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care for this world of ours. I believe the earth

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will no longer fall apart. We conclude it al Baxica

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and find a piece of less forever.

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Speaker 3: What's that sound?

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Speaker 7: That's sound?

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Speaker 2: Get my way O burns down.

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Speaker 9: Mixie and scream and shout pan.

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Speaker 2: I'll turn this town round.

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Speaker 10: What's it sound?

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Speaker 2: What's it sound?

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Speaker 3: Down my way?

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Speaker 10: Our burns down, maxy and scream.

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Speaker 2: And shout pan.

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Speaker 10: O's on this town around?

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Speaker 9: What's its turn this town? What's it sound?

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Speaker 3: What's it sound? What's it south?

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Speaker 6: Away?

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Speaker 10: I put down bakesy and screaming, shouts and outs on

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this town around.

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Speaker 3: What's it sound? What's it sound?

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Speaker 10: A way of booms down, takes, scream and shot and

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out on this town round.

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Speaker 1: That is Lydia already turn this town around. And this

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is Matt Connor to unleashed and we are alive from

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the studios of w M and H ninety five three

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FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And thank you again

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to Lydia for joining us today. And we did feature earlier. Yeah,

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we played the way We're rolling her newest single earlier

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in the show. We might we might cap off today's

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show with that one more time. We'll see we'll see

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how how the rest of the hour goes. But uh,

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if you are joining us live on Saturday, today is

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September twentieth, twenty twenty five, and we've got actually, Jenny

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found a couple of interesting, uh music industry stories. But

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this is from Billboard dot com. This this just happened.

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And this also relates to a subject that we've discussed

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many times on the show. Klan Kilanie slams AI artist

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Zania or Zannia Moneta. It's x A N I A.

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So I guess that's Zania Zannia Monet getting a three

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million dollar record deal. Uh, this is so beyond out

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of control, the musician told fans. Now, I don't know

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anything about this. This is the first time hearing about this.

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This is I didn't think there there even was such

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a thing as a three million dollar record deal anymore.

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I didn't. I thought that was a thing of the past.

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But so I don't understand. Let's we'll go through this

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here again. This is from Billboard dot Com. A few

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days ago, Billboard broke the news that an AI generated artist,

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Zania Monet, had signed a multimillion dollar record deal after

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meeting with multiple labels.

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Speaker 11: This sounds very they thought over this person. It sounds like, yeah,

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but not person. It's not a person.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, but even that, that's one thing

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about this is so strange. But the other thing that's

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so strange to me is a story about a new

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artist having multiple meetings with various labels to and this

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bidding war that that that sounds like something from thirty

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years ago. That doesn't sound like something that even happens

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in twenty twenty five. So that part's also strange to me.

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Everything about this is weird. Are we in an alternate universe?

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Speaker 11: An artist I use that term loosely, who did all

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Speaker 1: With Sunio, Yeah, which is the app that we use Sono,

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Speaker 1: I know why because the other, the other big one

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is Udio. So I think in your mind you created

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an amalgam of Suno and Udio and created Sudio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe someday they'll merge and that'll be

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the new name.

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Speaker 11: The creator is claiming they are the lyrics are theirs, Yeah,

477
00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:22,440
but they use Suno to make the music. Yeah, So

478
00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:24,599
the music is obviously not theirs.

479
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says here. In a recent TikTok, the singer

480
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,359
songwriter Kilani shared their thoughts on how Wold Media reportedly

481
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,880
shelling out three million dollars to sign the fictive musician,

482
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,359
whose quote persona is operated behind the scenes by writer

483
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:48,240
Talisha Nicki Jones, despite copyright concerns previously voiced by other

484
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:55,119
major labels um So, a frustrated sounding Kilani told followers,

485
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,359
without directly mentioning Monet or Jones, quote, there is an

486
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,680
ai R and B artists who just signed a multimillion

487
00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:06,079
dollar deal and the person is doing none of the work.

488
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:08,839
This is so beyond out of control unquote.

489
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong.

490
00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,039
Speaker 11: They're using other people's music to create it. Suno uses

491
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,519
everybody else's music to learn from. So if you're going

492
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,599
there with your lyrics to quote make music, you're making

493
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,079
music from other artists. Really, it's not coming out of

494
00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:29,160
your brain, but artistry comes out of your brain.

495
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: But I also don't understand the most like this. But

496
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,440
the most mind bending thing to me about this is

497
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,920
again I don't like, why is somebody paying three million

498
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,720
dollars for this?

499
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,079
Speaker 3: Because apparently these songs are going.

500
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: Up the jar, but so what even even if they are,

501
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720
you don't pay in the year twenty twenty five, Why

502
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,240
would anyone pay three million dollars for to anybody for anything.

503
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,559
Speaker 3: Apparently this was a big deal.

504
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,559
Speaker 11: They had this big, giant zoom meeting with the executive

505
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,799
and this is bizarre to close this deal with the

506
00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:01,839
person what was I I can't remember that person's name

507
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,839
is who created Zaniumone, who is not a human being?

508
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: But what am I missing about? I mean, like, yeah,

509
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,119
I mean, and I know the AI part is so suhard,

510
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,359
but I'm still stuck on the other part of this. Like, honestly,

511
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,400
if you took this story and you took the AI

512
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,400
part out of it, and you just told me there

513
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,400
was this new artist named Zaniamone who who had all

514
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720
these meetings and just got offered a three million dollar

515
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,119
record deal, a brand new artists, this brand new artist

516
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,559
I've never even heard of it. Even if you took

517
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,920
the AI part completely out of the story, I would

518
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440
still be sitting here going what in the year twenty

519
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:37,319
twenty five.

520
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: They're charting, That's why the chart.

521
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: But even that shouldn't matter. What greed talks Buck up this.

522
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,839
Speaker 3: They don't care. They can make a dollar, they'll do it.

523
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: But how are they gonna make money?

524
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Speaker 11: Like they're gonna make merch maybe? I guess where do

525
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,440
they make money these days? It's downloads? Aren't the way?

526
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: Nobody gets a three million dollar deal in twenty five?

527
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: So what is in the deal? Though?

528
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,839
Speaker 11: Like, what exactly is in the deal? Obviously this artist

529
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,480
can't go perform anywhere. There's no concerts for fictictional character

530
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,279
unless they make a hologram.

531
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Speaker 1: Well unless the author who created this character is going

532
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,039
to do to do that. I don't know.

533
00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 11: Well, if they were going to do that, when they

534
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,079
do that themselves to begin with, I'm assuming that they

535
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,400
can't perform the way that their fake version can perform.

536
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, on a computer.

537
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,599
Speaker 11: It can't perform. Outside of a computer. You can't go

538
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,839
to get tickets and go see them live unless it's

539
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:35,240
a holograph. I don't think we Well we got those

540
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,000
in Vegas, but they're not everywhere yet.

541
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Well you can, though, I mean if if if if

542
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,519
she can sing, and she's if you know she can sing?

543
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,279
If hire if you can hire a band to learn

544
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,240
the songs, or you just play back in tracks or whatever.

545
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,599
Speaker 11: I mean, but that's not what they're saying. But that's

546
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:54,319
not what they didn't sign her. They signed the fictitional character.

547
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's got to be like merch and stuff

548
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:57,799
like that.

549
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,039
Speaker 1: Yes, that's like, that's a lot of money.

550
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: For I don't like really.

551
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 11: I actually am kind of shocked by it all because

552
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:09,559
I didn't think that the music industry will legitimize it

553
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:15,880
in this way, and now that they have, I don't

554
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,240
like it.

555
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,559
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it assescily. The

556
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,759
vocalist Kilani went on emphasize the power of AI to

557
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,039
create fully formed songs out of thin air without users

558
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,279
having to credit anyone involved in making the countless copyrighted

559
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:32,319
works on which such generative music systems are trained to craft.

560
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,079
Monet's music. Jones used Suna, which is the same app

561
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,720
that we we full disclosure. We played with, we played

562
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,359
with it on the air, we did experiments, we created

563
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:47,240
tracks about me becoming victorious in my long running feud

564
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:48,119
with MC hammer.

565
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

566
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,279
Speaker 11: I'm not saying it's not fun to play with, but

567
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,279
to reward it, to pay for it, to legitimize it

568
00:26:57,319 --> 00:27:00,880
in the music industry as a valid.

569
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,599
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've also there too, real Flesh of

570
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:07,279
blood humans.

571
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 1: I've also used it full disclosure. I've used it to

572
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:14,400
create theme music for a couple of podcasts, UH, Tough

573
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,839
Bumps and UH. And I even made a song for

574
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,759
the The AF the podcast only version of this show,

575
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200
although I'm not really I kind of changed my mind

576
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,759
about the song I chose, but that I created with Suno.

577
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,480
But anyway, it doesn't matter. But okay, So to craft

578
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,519
Mone's music, Jones used Suno, though her manager Rommel Murphy

579
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,160
emphasized to Billboard that his client personally writes all the

580
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,359
original lyrics that Monet quote unquote sing.

581
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: But not the music.

582
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:49,599
Speaker 11: And I argue that it's not without copyright infringement because

583
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,000
every piece of music this thing used to create it,

584
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480
it learned from a human being. It didn't come out

585
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,599
of thin air. It came out of a human mind

586
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,440
that it stuck into a computer and spit this out. Right,

587
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,680
So is that really not using somebody else's work, because

588
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,400
I don't think it is. You're using everybody else's work

589
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,400
to train it, and then it pulls from a thousand

590
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,000
artists to make this song. Well, that's a thousand different

591
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:20,319
artists' input that got into that song. It's not royalty free,

592
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,680
y'all happy? Gee, look at like, I don't like the

593
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,079
way the article comes across. It's like, oh, this is

594
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,000
no that section you read about it being like royalty

595
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,559
free and they can create that.

596
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Just I don't like it, it says here. Billboard has

597
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,039
reached out to Jones's rep for comment. Kilani certainly isn't

598
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,720
the only person in the industry with objections to Monet's deal.

599
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:49,640
Sources previously told Billboard that several major labels had also

600
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:54,680
been in talks with Jones, but ultimately walked away with

601
00:28:54,799 --> 00:29:00,240
respect to their collaborative copyright lawsuit against Suno last year. Yeah, there's, uh,

602
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,440
there's a lawsuit. The labels are suing Souno. That's what.

603
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: So why are somebody signing this person.

604
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Well, the company signing them isn't involved in that lawsuit obviously,

605
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,200
But but that's why I tell people too, because you know,

606
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,960
we we use Suno, I use soun know for some stuff.

607
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,640
If you are using these uh these these uh large

608
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,200
learning models, like you know, enjoy it while you have it,

609
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,960
because the sharks are circling just so you know, Okay.

610
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:32,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think it's gonna be I

611
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:33,160
think that.

612
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,039
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's gonna gone. Yeah,

613
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,000
oh I agree, but yeah. The basis of the lawsuit

614
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,880
is that Sono allegedly infringed upon the copyright of the

615
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,319
label's catalogs by using pre existing works to train its technology.

616
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:50,920
The company disagrees with this characterization, arguing that its users

617
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160
are actually making entirely original works via fair use of

618
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,079
the music in its database.

619
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 11: Okay, but that's saying the same thing in a different sentence.

620
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,000
You just this fair use is a very loosely used term.

621
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,000
In that sentence, I think, I think.

622
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Well that's but well, that's the argument that the company

623
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,400
the signed er is making now there and and so

624
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:13,480
for people who don't know, so, fair use is when

625
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,880
you're using someone else's material, but but but you're using

626
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,079
it in a transformative.

627
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Way or educational way.

628
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:25,119
Speaker 1: So for example, if if you if you watch YouTube videos,

629
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,559
you know, because people make reaction videos, especially you know

630
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,799
in political uh uh YouTube. So for example, if you're

631
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:38,039
commenting on on something on somebody else's video, you're using

632
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,839
someone else's content and you're playing it and you're commenting

633
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,599
on it as you do it. We had even recently

634
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,680
discussed doing that with someone, but we decided not to

635
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,720
because we don't want someone making angry phone calls to

636
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,759
certain people. But that type of thing where you're using

637
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,440
somebody else's content but you're commenting on it as you

638
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,119
play it on your own channel, that's an example of

639
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,960
fair use. The reason podcasters on YouTube are able to

640
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,039
you that kind of thing is because it's transformative. They're

641
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,119
taking they're using someone else's content to create their own

642
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
content from that as they comment on it. And that's

643
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,319
why those podcasters are protected.

644
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,799
Speaker 11: Huge difference because the material they're using, they're using it,

645
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:20,079
it's still associated, it's still identified as the original. You're

646
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,160
playing it, but it's the original. You know what's the

647
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,079
person speaking? Is that person not them? They're not taking

648
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:29,839
all of that and creating something.

649
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,319
Speaker 3: It's it's not.

650
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 11: That you know, this is literally this is like I

651
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,240
read every VC Andrews book and then I write a

652
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,240
VC Andrews book because I read all of her books

653
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,319
and just gurgitated out her own style, wording continued her story.

654
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,440
Isn't that still her story? It's still her story? I'm

655
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,759
I'm playing in her world. It's not like it's one

656
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,079
thing together.

657
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you took the characters and made exactly

658
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,119
a basic yeah, well that would be then you'd be

659
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,000
violating her intellectual property.

660
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 11: Well, how are you not violating a musician's intellectual property

661
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,599
when you're stealing the notes off of a page instead

662
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:11,799
of the words off of a page.

663
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,599
Speaker 1: Now that just to play Devil's advocate. You know my

664
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,680
counter argument, and you've heard me say this before, and

665
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,799
by the way, at the end of the day, I

666
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:24,480
will always argue on behalf of artists, about and protecting artists,

667
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,319
and you know obviously where I come from. I think

668
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:30,119
everyone understands that. But the the counter argument, and I

669
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:32,519
do think it's a decent counter argument. So again I'm

670
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,720
playing Devil's advocate. But when we talk about these large

671
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:39,119
learning models sucking up all this information and then and

672
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,480
then being able to create from it, if I how

673
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,319
is that different from necessarily the human brain? So if

674
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,559
I sit down and I write a song anything, wait,

675
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,240
let me well, let me just finish my thought. Though

676
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,079
again I'm playing Devil's advocate here, but let me just

677
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:59,680
finish my thought. If I'm sitting down and I'm writing something.

678
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,599
Anything that I write is informed and influenced by all

679
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,559
the music that I've previously heard in my lifetime up

680
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:11,519
to that moment. So therefore, how is that different?

681
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,519
Speaker 11: Because you are a human being using your mind, not

682
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:19,519
a computer that can memorize everything verbatim, every signature, stamp,

683
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:24,160
every note, every everything, every dissonance and replicate that precisely,

684
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,039
you are a human.

685
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: You cannot do that.

686
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 11: You as a human can interpret what you hear, what

687
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,119
you see, what you feel, and then reinterpret that into artistry.

688
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: That's what artists do, right.

689
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,559
Speaker 11: You take a story, something that's pointed to you, You

690
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,240
take a paint brush and you scart that around. That

691
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
is you interpreting the world around you into that canvas, right,

692
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,319
same thing a musician does, interpreting the world and putting

693
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:46,759
it down on a sheet music.

694
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: That's unique.

695
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

696
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 11: You taking all the knowledge that somebody gives you, go

697
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440
to college for ten years, you take all that knowledge

698
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,720
to write something that's you, as a human being, creating

699
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,440
something out of your own mind.

700
00:33:58,519 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: It's not.

701
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 11: Picture perfect pages in a computer that can literally just

702
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:11,159
that's not creation. That's gluing stuff together just very.

703
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: Quick yeah, yeah, just very quickly. I'm looking on YouTube.

704
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,679
I just want to hear something from I Will Live, Like,

705
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,280
what what could somebody possibly be paying?

706
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,519
Speaker 3: See?

707
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,199
Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on that part. What could somebody be

708
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,199
paying three million dollars for? Okay?

709
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,039
Speaker 3: So uh, what's the going rate for artists these days?

710
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:37,559
Speaker 1: So it's not that, let's see Okay, Okay, So I

711
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,159
found the YouTube page Xanny moon A. All right, I'm

712
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,239
just gonna play this first song that pops up. Looks

713
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,719
like this is the newest single. It's called back when

714
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,119
Love Was Real? All right, this is the lyric video here.

715
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,199
Let me it's probably an ad first, let me see.

716
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,559
I'm just curious, like, what what could this be?

717
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 5: M I want that back in the day kind of

718
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:15,880
loving live stream? It was fell inside. It's no text

719
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:20,840
nor manice, just loyalty and a little bit of respect

720
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:26,400
before everybody knew your business.

721
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 12: Before who you with turns suspicious, before the GPS and

722
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:36,519
the past words to love A simple just me you

723
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,760
take me back when Love was Real.

724
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I almost feel like she's trolling all of us with

725
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,480
those lyrics.

726
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 11: It doesn't sound any different from stuff you've created, you know,

727
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,719
I'm I don't think it does.

728
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I don't get a few words in there.

729
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

730
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,039
Speaker 1: I don't get it like this.

731
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 11: This so many people Okay, I'm not okay with this.

732
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:56,719
You know this is wrong.

733
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,519
Speaker 3: It's a huge difference between human creation and computer creation.

734
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,119
Speaker 13: Wow.

735
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,199
Speaker 11: Humans don't have the ability to photo have a photographic

736
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,320
memory of every single word note you know what I mean,

737
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,320
every breath of the in a nation. Where's There's so

738
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
much to what an artist does as a human.

739
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:18,679
Speaker 1: Although that does well, that raises a question though, what

740
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,199
if an artist has a photographic memory, should but you're

741
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:29,079
not gonna should they not make music? That's different atogh

742
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:29,559
memories that.

743
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: You're a human. But you're a human.

744
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,639
Speaker 11: You're still using everything that you've got to create something

745
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,760
out of your own brain. It's not like a computer

746
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,679
literally taking ones and zeros and realigning the ones and

747
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,719
zeros and spitting it back at you, which is what

748
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,360
I feel like it's doing. You're taking everybody else's music,

749
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:52,880
here's your ones and zeros, rearrange it, spit it back out.

750
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:54,559
Speaker 3: That's not what a human being does.

751
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 11: A human being takes life, experience, thought, feeling, passion, emotion,

752
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,119
all of that. Everything they've learned, they've been around musicians whatever,

753
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,440
and then create out of that. Yeah, big difference between

754
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,480
rearranging it and creation.

755
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: Justin Michaels is in the chat room. You know, he's

756
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,599
a very loyal listener and supporter of actually all the

757
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,719
programming that we're involved in. And he says, so you

758
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,360
can you can use AI and get signed. Now, wow, that's.

759
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Right, we just found this out.

760
00:37:26,199 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: And he said, Matt, look out for Skynett.

761
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: I think we've already gotten there at this point.

762
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, but it is it isn't right, it's not okay

763
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000
with me. Yeah, And you're never going to see this

764
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:43,280
artist for in real life ever, they're not existent. You

765
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,800
could see somebody pretending to be them, but you will

766
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,519
never see them because they don't exist.

767
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:49,559
Speaker 3: They only exist in a computer.

768
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: Well, let's move on from that because I just want

769
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,440
to get this other story. But this also deals with

770
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:58,239
you know, because I'm always fascinated by anything to do

771
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,719
with copyright, intellectual proper. Pretty all of that is trademarks,

772
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,760
All of that is very fascinating to me. Obviously I

773
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,559
did not go to law school, but if I had

774
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,159
the type of law that I would probably be practicing,

775
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:11,679
would have to do with all that. I'd probably be

776
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,159
an entertainment lawyer because these things are so interesting to me.

777
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,679
But this is another story that you sent me. This

778
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,360
is from pitchfork dot Com. Neil Young has been sued

779
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:25,440
by Chrome Hearts Fashion over his band's new name. And

780
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,559
by the way, I didn't even know that Neil Young

781
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,519
had a new band. I you know, I just think

782
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:32,079
of him as a solo artist, of course, but.

783
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a fashion called Chrome I

784
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:35,840
didn't either.

785
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,599
Speaker 1: Chrome Heart the Chrome Hearts, the Los Angeles company is

786
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,239
not happy about the existence of Neil Young and the

787
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,559
Chrome Hearts, so says here. Last year, Neil Young began

788
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:49,760
to play shows with a new backing band that he

789
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,159
called The Chrome Hearts. Then in June, Neil Young and

790
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,320
the Chrome Hearts featuring Young, Micah Nelson, Corey McCormick, Anthony

791
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:06,599
Lagerfo Or lagerfo and Spooner Old Him released their debut album,

792
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,800
Taken to the Trees I'm sorry Talking to the Trees. Now,

793
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,440
Young and his bandmates are being sued by the La

794
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:18,719
fashion brand Chrome Hearts for trademark infringement. Chrome Hearts LLC

795
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,559
filed its complaint in a California Federal Court on Thursday,

796
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:26,079
September eleventh. The lawsuit was first reported by Billboard. In

797
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:30,840
the complaint obtained by Pitchfork, lawyers for Chrome Hearts outline

798
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,880
the brand's ownership quote of the Chrome Heart's word mark

799
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,679
and composite trademarks comprising the Chrome Hearts mark and design

800
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,880
components unquote, dating back to nineteen ninety one. They argue

801
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,079
that Young and his bandmates are infringing upon the brand's

802
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:54,000
trademark by selling Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts merchandise.

803
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,079
That quote incorporates the exact Chrome Heart's word mark and

804
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:03,679
thus likely to cause confusion with Chrome Heart's various Chrome

805
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,519
Heart marks. The likelihood of confusion is not merely hypothetical.

806
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,000
Some clothing and apparel vendors have apparently already mistakenly assumed

807
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,960
that there is a connection between Neil Young and the

808
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:21,559
chrom Hearts and Chrome Hearts, and are actively promoting that

809
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:26,159
purported connection. For example, some vendors have started marketing T

810
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,920
shirts that prominently display mister Young's name and the Chrome

811
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,079
Heart's iconic stylization of the Chrome Heart's mark. I assume,

812
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:39,760
by the way, so what that means is it's using

813
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,599
the same font as the Chrome Heart's logo. I have

814
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,599
to assume otherwise there would probably be no issue. I

815
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:47,159
wouldn't think.

816
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,159
Speaker 3: I think you only had to be concerned about another

817
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,119
band's name. Yeah, I wouldn't.

818
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean they're claiming, according to that from the lawsuit,

819
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,159
that verbia's from the lawsuit, that it's already causing confusion.

820
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,599
I find that heart of belief. If it is causing confusion.

821
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,519
If that's true, then I guess that bolster is their case.

822
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:08,119
But I'm a little skeptical. It says here. According to

823
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,280
the complaint, Chrome Hearts notified Young's team in July about

824
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,920
the alleged trademark infringement, but the band continued to tour

825
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,199
under the banner and sell merchandise. Through the lawsuit, Chrome

826
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,400
Herts is now requesting that Neil Young and the Chrome

827
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,519
Hearts stop using the name. Pitchfork has reached out to

828
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,679
representatives for Neil Young and the crom Hearts and lawyers

829
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,360
for crom Hearts LLC for comment. So there you go.

830
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,320
I don't really know what to make of that one.

831
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 11: Right, I mean, I always thought it would be different

832
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:38,559
if it's a band, like.

833
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,639
Speaker 1: How is it usually is?

834
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,679
Speaker 3: Banned, Like, how is that confusing?

835
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,079
Speaker 1: Usually if it's music, if it's completely different industries, then

836
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:54,239
it usually doesn't end up mattering. But I don't know,

837
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,920
I don't know, I mean, does Chrome Hearts? I don't

838
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,480
know what kind of fast Neil Young? I doubt it.

839
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,119
But maybe maybe they're trying to get some money. Maybe

840
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,559
they want maybe they'd like to make a settlement where

841
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,920
Neil Young pays X amount of money to sort of

842
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,440
license the name Chrome Hearts.

843
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,639
Speaker 11: Or are they doing this just to get more attention

844
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,599
onto their products, because hey, it makes a great story.

845
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: That could be talking about it. That could be too Yeah,

846
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,280
because I'd never even heard of Chromarts and you.

847
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:24,599
Speaker 11: Didn't say anything about them sewing for money. Interestingly, well,

848
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:26,719
they want them to stop using the name. Is there

849
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,199
a cash requestion there?

850
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,079
Speaker 1: There there may be a well, like I said, I mean,

851
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,679
if they can, if they can come to a settlement,

852
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,119
which these things often do. They they more often settle

853
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:37,760
than actually go to court. So they might come to

854
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,079
a settlement where they effectively license the name Chrome Arts

855
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,840
to Neil Young it's silly, or or they get a

856
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:51,519
percentage of uh of of revenue generated from Neil Young

857
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,360
merchandise which has chrome hearts on.

858
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 11: If I see Neil Young and the cron Hearts up

859
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,159
at this new arena, I know that that I'm going

860
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:57,440
to be.

861
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,519
Speaker 3: Confused and go by clothing.

862
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing that would that that would be Yeah,

863
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,840
that would be a good counter argument in the lawsuit.

864
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like it's it.

865
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 11: And it's not even like they're not even promoting the

866
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,719
name separately. It's with Neil Young, so Neil Young and

867
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,440
the Chrome. Right, it's not a separate name even right.

868
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: If the band was simply called Chrome Hearts, that would

869
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,679
be well.

870
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,199
Speaker 11: Even if they are, it's a band, it's not a

871
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,719
clothing designer. Yeah, unless their T shirts start making music.

872
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't hear it, right.

873
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:29,519
Speaker 3: I think I'm saying.

874
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm a little I usually draw a

875
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,760
pretty fast conclusion with this stuff. I'm a little I'm

876
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,280
a little undecided. I'm uncertain of this.

877
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually.

878
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Surprises me too. I usually see these things a little

879
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,800
bit more cut and dry.

880
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: But I think it's stupid.

881
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure on this one.

882
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 11: I don't see anybody mixing up clothing with and and

883
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:54,480
the only merch they're selling is band related.

884
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, but there's but again from Cromhart's position, see

885
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,880
they're gonna r you. Yeah, you're right, but what what

886
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,519
what kind of merch do you sell that's band related clothing?

887
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,719
T shirts, a T shirts. That's the argument they're gonna use.

888
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: It's not a whole product.

889
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,039
Speaker 1: It's you know, it'd be one thing if they were

890
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,880
just selling CDs, you know, or something. But you were

891
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,480
in the same industry, you're selling merch But see, but

892
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,800
that's all but see that, but that's the art. But

893
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,280
they are, in a sense, and that's the arguments.

894
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: The same industry. They're in music.

895
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,559
Speaker 1: Merchandising of clothing. That is the same. And if you're

896
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,760
in the music industry, you're in the merch you're in

897
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,400
the merchandise industry. You are going to.

898
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 11: Follows brand clothing like a brand, which I don't. But

899
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,119
people who follow brand clothing don't confuse it with musicians.

900
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,800
They might get interested in a brand, but they're not

901
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,440
gonna confuse it.

902
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were selling T shirts in here?

903
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,400
Why are there so many drums? Like, come on, that

904
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,280
doesn't happen.

905
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,559
Speaker 11: You don't go to the T shirts, you don't go

906
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:00,760
to marshals walk over to the rack that's got chrome

907
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,760
whatever here and look for Neil Young.

908
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that.

909
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,039
Speaker 1: Way, right, I'm sorry, I don't no, I I I

910
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:09,440
hear you.

911
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: Both of these stories are today.

912
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit. I'm just a little bit uncertain.

913
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,719
We're gonna have to follow that one closely as it

914
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,280
moves forward.

915
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 13: Let's to it.

916
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,119
Speaker 3: Than very curious I'm missing or something.

917
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious to see how that ends up.

918
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: I don't see consumer confusion here.

919
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: Well no, but from the from that statement from the lawsuit,

920
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,920
it sounds like Chromart's is saying there's like confusion within

921
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,840
the industry, within the fashion industry, give me a break,

922
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,679
because they're getting orders from.

923
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,519
Speaker 3: Give me a break, I don't know, and.

924
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 11: They're getting orders from stupid people that don't know the

925
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,639
difference between a musician and clothing designers.

926
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:50,559
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm sticking to it. All right, we

927
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,400
dug in.

928
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,079
Speaker 1: We gotta go, we gotta go. Jenny, you want to

929
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,199
uh quickly plug the event we're we're going to today

930
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,920
and your website because you've been up to a lot.

931
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,760
Oh and you should mention too. And the union leader

932
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,880
you're oh.

933
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Check out yesterday's Union Leader.

934
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 11: I have an opted in there if you want to

935
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,239
go check it out. And we are going to be

936
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,119
leaving here and going to the Great North Alworks on

937
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,039
wholdav here in the Queen City for the Pause and pints,

938
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,880
fundraising and just a party a fun Come say hi

939
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,679
to us, Damy Greed tacause they have all kinds of

940
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,800
great beers and of course this is raising money that's

941
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,519
staying here locally in New Hampshire to take care of animals.

942
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:28,760
And I'm really curious to see what animal one and

943
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,280
is gonna be pictured on the can of beer when

944
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,880
we get there, so we're gonna check out that. And

945
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also just definitely check out the mosaic Are Collective, also

946
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,719
located here in the Queen City. Check out their website.

947
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,039
Lots of great things coming up there and as always,

948
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:43,880
you can find more information on me and the Trouble

949
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,400
I get into Good Trouble at Gencoffee dot com, j

950
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E N N co O F f e y dot com.

951
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,039
Speaker 1: And to keep up with everything I'm doing, my website

952
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,800
is Matt Connorton dot com. Of course, in addition to

953
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,440
the show, we have the podcast only version of the show,

954
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,440
the AF version, which is completely separate from the He

955
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,800
has no association with WM and H. That's something that

956
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,599
we do separate from the radio station. But on that

957
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,119
version of the show we have some conversations and guests

958
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,280
that maybe are not suitable for the format of the

959
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,880
radio version of the show, but you can find that

960
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,119
in the podcast feed, you know, wherever you find Matt

961
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:21,320
Connorton Unleashed in your your podcast platform of choice, you

962
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:22,800
can you can also find the other version of the

963
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,400
show we just did one Thursday night with our friend

964
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:28,079
Brandon LeMay, which I suggest people check out, and also

965
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,840
the other podcasts that we have Going Hanging Left and

966
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,039
Tough Bumps. We'll have new episodes of those up soon

967
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:36,360
as well, so Matt connorton dot com. You can find

968
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,960
all of that there and thank you again. Of course.

969
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,079
In the first hour we had Larry and how do

970
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,119
you say his name? I don't want to mispronounce his name.

971
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,159
We have the gentleman from Loud Entertainment here in the

972
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:53,239
first hour, Larry. I can't I can't remember how to

973
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,760
say his name correctly. But they've got a big show tonight.

974
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,360
They've got a Godsmack and Metallic Attribute show happening tonight

975
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,000
at jewel if you want to check that out too,

976
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,920
And of course thank you. In the second hour Matt Axton,

977
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,960
who will be at the Rex Theater right here in

978
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,639
Manchester on September twenty fourth. We had a great conversation

979
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,440
with him, and so he'll be coming to Manchester. And

980
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,800
of course in the third hour we talked with Lydia. Ready,

981
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,199
thank you again, Lydia. We're actually gonna end the show today.

982
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,000
We're gonna play this again, her newest single. This is

983
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:23,360
called the Way We're Rolling. I love this, very positive,

984
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,559
very cool and uh, if you miss any part of

985
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,079
today's show it we'll be up in just a little

986
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:31,039
bit at Wmnhradio dot organ at my website Matt Coonnorton

987
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:32,639
dot com. And that's gonna do it for us. For now,

988
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,039
we're out of here. We'll talk to y'all a little

989
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:35,639
bit later. Bye everybody, Bye bye.

990
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: How can I clag this?

991
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 9: I can I clag that it doesn't matter the week

992
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:51,320
because I exist for me, I can walk or I

993
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,360
can't trash. It doesn't matter the way because I talk

994
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,559
for me. Chatter, Sen, chats up.

995
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,159
Speaker 14: You're some perfect even if you don't know, man, all

996
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,440
my beer cor comma.

997
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 8: Shoulder, all the way, I'm confident.

998
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 15: And this is just the way we're rolling.

999
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 8: This is just the way we're rolling.

1000
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:25,519
Speaker 3: I can sit down, Oh all.

1001
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,199
Speaker 9: Stand up to That is just the way it's kind

1002
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,519
of going.

1003
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 7: So I'll be me and you'll be you. That is

1004
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,920
what we've kind of you to try to get.

1005
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 8: Do you chant my sister, shots my brothers, you are.

1006
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,519
Speaker 10: Some perfect even have your dog no man, call my

1007
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:49,599
beer common shoulder all the way I comforted.

1008
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,119
Speaker 6: And this is just the way were rolling.

1009
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, this is just the way we're rolling. Yeah, yea

1010
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,559
somewhere to hurt.

1011
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: Your others will hurt you.

1012
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 9: Turn over, think kid, they don't deserve you know there

1013
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,440
you'll come through everything there you do fee your own

1014
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,400
person thereby.

1015
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: For you live for you. You gotta shats my sinsir, shants.

1016
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: My brother you are some perfect man.

1017
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,599
Speaker 6: If you don't know, man on.

1018
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 8: A pat on the shoulder, to the way I'm covered in,

1019
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:45,159
I'm bit.

1020
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 6: Yes, shuts my sis, just my girl.

1021
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,039
Speaker 2: Start you want some perfect even if.

1022
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,119
Speaker 6: You don't know, all my.

1023
00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:58,599
Speaker 15: My shoulder, all the way I'm coming in And this

1024
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:12,480
is just the way. This is just the like, this

1025
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:13,239
is just the way.

1026
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,159
Speaker 13: Why like a boy? Oh I thank god.

1027
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 16: Now this is like a stupid boy and I was.

1028
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 13: When I was a kid.

1029
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 16: I got my face up in not toilets.

1030
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 8: With the geese side. Damn.

1031
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,039
Speaker 3: I wasn't always a stoop pup, but when I was,

1032
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:18,400
I was a jump I.

1033
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 8: Didn't always look as I used to wap and go

1034
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:30,760
filled with us. I remember roll the man sounds and

1035
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,199
picked them along.

1036
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 16: It feels like someone that's shopping.

1037
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 6: Their tas fuck out of my arm. They ride Ness

1038
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,960
side go where no scene down bomb.

1039
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 13: Me roll up live.

1040
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 8: I ride mess side go where no scene down bomb

1041
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,400
me roll up live.

1042
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:19,159
Speaker 13: Yeah, when I was in school, didn't make good grades.

1043
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 16: I was, yes, still being dumb school when I was

1044
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,320
still young, and all I cared about round was girls

1045
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,760
but stating and like my mpows

1046
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,119
Speaker 13: I used to be, I just don't