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Speaker 1: Nam Adam Mshwski. Welcoming you to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Join your hosts Jason and d as

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they dive deep into two iconic albums from nineteen eighty five.

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Are they hair metal? Are they glam metal? Or are

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they heavy metal? Label them what you will. These are

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two of my all time favorites. I can't choose a winner,

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but perhaps Jason and d can settle the score. So

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kick back, relive the memories, and enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 2: Gosh deed, it's been two weeks since we've been together

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in the studio and we come back here. I look around.

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We got a rat infestation today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast, Everybody,

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I all your Shirley fans out there. I know that

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loving us is a dirty job, but we're glad you're

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the ones to do it. Hey, we're gonna go round

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and round with rat today it we'll just keep on coming. Okay,

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Before we start going, we gotta get a shout out

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to our executive producers. We have a couple of new ones. Yeah,

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we do it.

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Speaker 2: We've got a couple of new ones. We've got Omar Gobbi.

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We've got Matthew Brent, and we've got Tom.

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Speaker 3: Tom, who I'm pretty sure has got to be the

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Tom that commented on our Dire Straits episode and gave

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us the intel on the naive soundboard. If it's not you, Tom,

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thank you to the Tom that joined both of you.

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But thank you guys so much. If you want to

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be an executive producer of one of our episodes, just

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go over to patreon dot com slash Shirley Podcast and

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you can join for as little as five bucks a month.

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You become an executive producer of an episode.

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Speaker 2: And I will tell you this. Matthew Brent, Yeah, he's

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friends with Dirk Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dirk who came on and did the well

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I won't, I won't give it away, but did one

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of those special Patreon episodes with you, that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, did and Matthew, I guess, bought him a Patreon

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subscription as a gift.

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Speaker 3: It's the gift that keeps on given Clark.

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Speaker 2: And so Matthew has actually helped us like two times

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the amount.

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Speaker 3: So yes, so thank you. If you want to be

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a member of the Jelly of the Month Club, the

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Surely of the Month Club, do like Matthew did for

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Dirk and join up, join your buddies up and come

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join all the fun that we have.

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Speaker 2: You might get invited to be on do a podcast

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with us. Yeah, I mean, let's go back to the

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Sunset Strip in the early.

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Speaker 3: Eighties, the La scene where everything was leather and silicone

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implants and cleavage for Miles and.

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Speaker 2: Miles, Leezy Babes and dirty rock rifts.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because we've done now multiple bands

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from this scene, right, you know, we got We've got

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Miley Crue, we got Van Halen, Poison, Poison, I mean,

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so many bands that were doing this slle scene, guns

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and roses, and it seems like the story is kind

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of the same, Like everybody that was there had one

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shitty apartment that the whole band lived in, and every

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time the show was done, everybody would come back to

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that little hole, that rat infested hole and party with

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the band until all the sun broke through on the dawn.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the rat Mansion West. We're going to talk about

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that today, right, absolutely, So what do we what's our

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of weird because we're kind of comparing

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bands that have a lot of incest going on between them. Really,

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I mean, like two thirds of this band played for

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Docin at some point. It's crazy, and so why not.

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They both had big albums in nineteen eighty five. We're

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going to compare Invasion of Your Privacy to doc and

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under Lock and Key. Under Lock and Key, it's gonna

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be great, man.

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Speaker 2: These are crunchy, pop friendly rock riffs that are a

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bit grimy, you know, yeah, And it's gonna be fun

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to kind of get down and dirty with these.

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Speaker 3: So, just for all of our audience out there, I

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was not super familiar with either one of these albums.

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This album we're covering today, Rat, I at least know

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the hits that came off of this album Docin. I

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got nothing. I have no source, no frame of reference,

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and so sometimes that can be a bad thing. Like Rambo,

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you missed the moment, yeah I did. But then when

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we did the Cult, I absolutely loved that album. Had

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never heard that album before, and at this point I

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still haven't heard under Lock and Key. I don't know

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if I'm going to like it or not, but I'm

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ready to go. And for Rat, I got to listen

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to the whole album instead of just the hits, and

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so I'm excited to talk about it. See how we got.

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Speaker 2: Here, Well, before we dive into it, you touched on

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We did talk about the cult last summer and we

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matched it up with Great White, who was another dirty,

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grimy LA band.

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Speaker 3: For that's right.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Rat Invasion of your privacy.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. Track one, You're in love, So right

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out of the gate, I'm getting some really heavy Eddie

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van Halen Ain't talking about love vibes going on from

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this one. Love the strong, full punchy guitar, dut d

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d d da du du du du. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you can definitely feel the Van Halen influence.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it was there. It was their inspiration

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for moving to LA like this. This was a San

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Diego band initially, and they were doing great on the

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San Diego scene and then Steven Piercy and Robin Crosby

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band called Van Halen, And I mean they're they're still

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playing in the Troubadour back then. But he said they

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were playing as though they were playing for an arena

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full of people, like huge speakers, David Lee Roth jumping

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off of the speakers. I mean it was they said,

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we got to get up here and do that too.

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Speaker 2: Van Halen, one of the most influential bands of all time,

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basically gave birth to all these hair bantl bands from

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the La Strip.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the video for your in Love?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I have no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to show this to you because the

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introduction clip is so funny because it has a familiar face.

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Let me know when you recognize this character who's very

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prominent eighties person.

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Speaker 1: Are you in love with him and not with me?

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I guess I am Jones.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna marry him? Wait a minute, I can

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have a list proposing from mass Okay, you really mean that.

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Speaker 4: You haven't asked me anything yet.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if I said the wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: You recognize that guy? Yes, mister Reagan, mister Ronald Reagan.

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That comes from a movie that I've seen. I've seen

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: That intro clip where he's like, are you saying you're

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in love with him and not with me?

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Speaker 2: Could be from a movie called Santa Fe Trail from

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Speaker 3: Or from Brother Rat Uh well, thirty eight gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Pretty interesting, see good old Ronnie.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean right at the height of the

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Reagan era too. Yeah, nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Man, So I don't know if you've heard the story

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behind this particular song lay on me. Okay. So the

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producer for this album is a guy named bo Hill.

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Bowhill produced Out of the Cellar, which came out the

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prior year. Out of the Cellar has wanted man lack

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of communication. I mean, their biggest song, their signature song,

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Round and Round. Right, So Bowhill was brought back in

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as producer. Now, they didn't really get along so well

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Speaker 3: He was he ran a tight ship and this is

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not a tight ship kind of band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I heard him talk about that.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about Warren D. Martini in his youth.

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I mean he's twenty twenty one or so when this

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album comes out, Yeah, join the band at eighteen Yeah,

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basically overnight.

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Speaker 2: So Bowhill was like, you know, he knew what the

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budget was. He said, Warren kind of had this image

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that he had a suitcase full of cash and then

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whatever he didn't spend he gets to keep. He's like, no,

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they would reimburse, you know, the Rat corporation. He's like,

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they had it all wrong, but they all it was

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Speaker 2: But Doug Morris was the president of Atlantic Records, okay,

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his go to guy, and was really good at keeping

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bands on track and on budget. And he said that

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when he called after they had kind of put all

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was like, it's clear, it's lay It Down. It's the

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best song on the album. And Doug Morris goes, I

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think it's going to be You're in Love, and he said.

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Bo Hill was like devastated. He's like, we got to

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come out with our best foot forward on this one.

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Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing, I can't find any evidence

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that that was actually the case. Bo Hill was recalling

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this story, but I think that lay It Down was

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the first video really.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so It's interesting. You know, we text each

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other and call each other as we're preparing for these episodes,

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and you were telling me about bow Hill, and you

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were like, here's this with this band called Shanghai, and

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you give me the story about you know, had they

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had one album and it didn't sotle. It didn't sell

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Speaker 2: He said it sold exactly zero copies.

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of Shanghai the Band before. Somehow it's come up in

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the last six years of searching music. Shanghai the Band

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has come up before. And so just a few minutes

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after our phone conversation, I sent you a text and

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bow Hill was the keyboardist that came in and took

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over when they changed the band's name to Shanghai. But

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he took over for someone named Holly Knight, who we've

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talked about a million, ga jillion time because she's written

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so many incredible hits, lots of pop hits. Oh absolutely,

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Milli Vanilly blame it on the Rain, among many others. Yeah,

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but oh yes. So I was like, I knew I'd

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heard Shanghai before. So he was keyboardist for them, but

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he had also already started producing at this point and

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obviously a good producer. All of these songs have a

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similar sound, and that I would call the Bowhill sound.

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But talking about Warren D. Martini, like when they first

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got together and started the recording process, he had had

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he had no idea about how different things were, and

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he couldn't find the right sound for his guitar. And

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the sound for the guitar is huge, like you can't

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just only be a great player, which he absolutely is,

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I mean, unsung guitar god, guitar guy. And how is

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he not more talked about. I mean with a name

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like D Martini, that's a fantastic name. Yeah it is,

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I do you know? But anyway, he was he you know,

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he comes in and they've got these Marshall half stacks

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that are huge, ready to go, but it doesn't sound right,

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and he's like, you know, I just wish it could

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kind of sound like my practice amp at home. And

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he's like, well, bring it over and he's like, you

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could do that. You could just put the practice amp

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in the recording studio. He's like yeah, So they literally

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Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. You know, I heard Bohill tell

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his story. So Bo was constantly at odds with the

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guys in rat, Right.

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Speaker 3: He said, first of.

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Speaker 2: All, every one of them thought they were great songwriters,

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and so they would bring in all these songs and everybody,

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of course one of their two or three songs on

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the album, well, Bo had to kind of make the

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list and say these are our best, these are not

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going to make it. These are going to make it.

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And so he said, at all times, at least two

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of the guys, two of the five were just over

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the top pissed at him all the time, one hundred

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percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But he also would get in trouble because he said

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one time they left they had to take a break

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to go on tour, like they's got this opportunity to

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go to Japan and tour. And so he's left working

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with the track and he's mixing and he's like, gosh,

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I really need Warren to play another decord. And he's

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like he looked over and he's like there's Warren's.

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Speaker 3: Guitar and I'm here.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not a great guitar player, but I

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can play a decord.

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Speaker 3: You could play a dcord, right, So he's like so

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he went up.

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Speaker 2: I was like oh, And then they were like, you

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dared to play his stuff on the out and so

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they were just like always mad at him for something.

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I did watch this video in the era of hair

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bands and you know, showing babes and you know, showing

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rock and you know, I mean, you're struck by lightning

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is one of the lyrics in this, right, you only

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live to have fun. They're they're they're advertising their brand

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of fun.

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Speaker 3: Rock here, right.

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Speaker 2: Gabauchery, yeah, oh my gosh, debauchery. Yes, But in the

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video there's a girl holding up a sign says eat meat,

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I'm cheese.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with here. Is this the one

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where like Robin Crosby pulls off a bra or something

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that somebody has thrown at him. Probably probably in this video.

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Speaker 2: So you've got the Ronald Reagan clip at the beginning,

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You've got a clip featuring Betty Boop, Buster Keaton, Mickey Rooney,

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Frank Sinatra, Lucy like I love Lucy Bob Hope. And

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then you have the kind of infamous clip from e

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T where Elliott is like and Erica Alaniac are like,

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he's getting ready to kiss her and he's releasing the

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frogs and he's learning how to like you know what

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I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: That is watching the Romantic movie and it's getting translated

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to Elliott at the school.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that clip is in this video.

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Speaker 3: So either this was an absolute licensing nightmare or they

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just use all that stuff without permission. And I'm going

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with probably option number two.

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Speaker 2: It's possible. Yeah, And of course at the very end, yeah,

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you have a clip between Groucho Marx and a smoking

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hot Marilyn Monroe when she's still a redhead the.

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Speaker 3: Little Norma Jean Playboy days. That will not be the

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last time that Playboy comes up in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I love this song. What a great

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song to kick off.

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Speaker 3: With a great opening track. Yeah, I agree. I don't

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know that it's the first single you release, but it

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is definitely a fantastic opening track. Next song, yeahlet's do it.

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Speaker 2: Next song on the album is called never Use Love.

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Speaker 3: Okay, another fantastic killer Crunchy guitar opening. The great thing

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about this is that you really get to hear the

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two guitars going of Robin Crosby and Warren D. Martini

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at the same time, you know, kind of answering each

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other back and forth with this. Now, you know, we

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talked just a bit ago about Robin and Steven really

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being the originators of this band, and several of the

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band members and we'll talk about it in a minute,

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played with other bands, including docin Yes, and ultimately they

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get this, they get their lineup together, but their lineup

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includes Robin and another guitarist named Jake E. Lee as

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the other guitarist, right, Yeah, Now, Jake E Lee was

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a little bit older than Warren D. Martini and at

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the time that they are that rat is just about

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to hit it big, Like they're really just about to

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go big. Jake gets this opportunity that you just can't

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say no to.

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Speaker 2: So he gets an opportunity to replace Randy Rhodes in

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Ozzy Osbourne's band.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so go back and check out our No More

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Tears episode to hear the Randy Rhoades tragedy story. But

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obviously Ozzy's in full tilt when that event occurs, and

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so he needs a replacement guitarist.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Jake E Lee goes and auditions for Ozzie's

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band yep. And you know who else is there besides

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every other guitar player in town is George Lynch.

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Speaker 3: George Lynch, the guitarist for Docin.

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Speaker 2: For Docin, and George Lynch said that he really felt

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like he did well in the audition, felt like he

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killed it. He felt like he was kind of the

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leader in the clubhouse. And he said he was standing

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there and he was talking to Jakie Lee and they

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were just kind of conversing about their audition or whatever,

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and he said Ozzie walked right up to him and said,

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he turned to Jake E Lee, He's like, do you

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want the job?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 2: And Jake said yeah, you know, and He's like, great,

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you got it. He's like, you blew it. I kept

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on walking, Yeah, he said. George was just like stunned,

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embarrassed and devastated. Yeah, and he had to take his

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tail and go back to Docin.

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Speaker 3: Good old Ozzy man, Yeah, God rest his soul. He

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just passed.

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Speaker 2: We lost him yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday. Man, that's a tough loss. By the way, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you the story how Robin Crosby

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got into Rat Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Stephen Piercy.

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Speaker 2: Had been in multiple bands, right, including I think one

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called Fire Doome, one called Crystal Pistol.

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Speaker 3: Crystal Pistol, with the pistol spelled like a with a y,

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like crystal Crystal pistol, not subtle, right, yep.

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Speaker 2: And so so Stephen Piercy's from San Diego, Jakie Lee's

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from San Diego. Actually, Warren de martiniz from San Diego. Well,

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Robin Crosby's from San Diego.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Robin had been hanging around. He was a guitar

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player and he started bugging Jakie Lee. He's like, hey,

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don't you want this to be a two guitar band guy?

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And Jake's like, dude, I think I can handle it.

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And he just persisted, and Robin was like, hey, listen,

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you get all the solos, you do whatever. I'll just

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stand over here. You tell me what to do, I'll

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do it. And so finally Jake felt bad for him.

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It's like, all right, Robin, you can come in, but

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you got to do what I say. And he said

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as soon as Robin joined the band. He's like, okay,

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now which solo? Am I getting on this too? And

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just used his leverage to get in there.

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Speaker 3: And he's six', five built like a brick, house, massive

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like a football, player with a. Guitar so hard to

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say no to this.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Yes and while we're, THERE i, mean do you

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know who his high school sweetheart?

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Speaker 3: Was, well she's involved in several of these songs and.

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Albums it's Miss Tawny.

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Speaker 2: Katine This Tawny kataine back again after we covered her

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extensively during Our White snake.

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Speaker 3: Episodes oh, There god rest her. Soul but, So Jake

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ely is the lead guitarist who's now sharing lead guitar

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With Robin. Crosby and one of the band names Was Mickey,

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Ratt Micky Ratt Mickey mouse if you missed the connection.

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There But Steven piercy wanted something more punchy and taking

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the cue From, kiss he just took just the rat

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all capitol, letters double letters at the. End you know

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it styled it that. Way. Yep But jake E lee

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gets the job to take over For Randy rhoades For. Ozzy,

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okay so they need another guitarist and they need another guitarist,

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fast and So JAKE E lee, says you need to

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Call WARREN. D martini and they're, like isn't he still

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in high school and he's, like, no he graduated last.

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Year he just started junior, college, Right so he's living

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with his, mom going to junior. College and they call

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him up and they're, Like, warren how'd you like to

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come play guitar for? Us and he's, like, okay let

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me think about. IT i BET i can come next

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semester as soon As i'm done with my. CLASSES i

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figure out a wait a. Whit they're like, no, no, no, no,

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Tonight like we have a show in one. Week we

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need you here. Tonight and he's, like, GUYS i don't

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even have a place to. Live they're, like you can

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live With. Jake he has got some time before he.

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Leaves you can live with. Him you can learn the

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songs with. Him and he's, like can you give me ten.

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Minutes they're like, okay, dude and he hangs up the

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phone and his mom is at the grocery. Store by

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the time mom gets, home she encounters him with all

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of his guitar gear packed into his tiny little car

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and she's, like where are you. Going it's LIKE i

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got invited to join this rock band you've never heard. Of, Sorry,

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mom rock and roll, CALLS i gotta. Go she's, LIKE

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i don't think that's a good. Idea and he's, like,

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OKAY i see you. Later that is. Awesome so he

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goes up there and he lives like a tiny little,

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apartment lives With Jake E. Lee and he said they

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would just sit there playing guitar, together but like you,

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Know Jake ee would teach him some, stuff they would

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trade some, riffs they would work on their own. Songs

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and he, SAYS i can remember sitting with my back in.

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It we're both sitting on the. Floor my back is

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to the, couch his back is to the, couch And

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i'm playing the beginning of what would Become round And

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round and he's playing the beginning of what would Become

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bark at The. MOON i mean, imagine he's, like you,

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know you just have no idea as an eighteen and

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whatever twenty year old couple of guys that these little

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riffs that you're playing without the. AMP i, mean they're

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just you don't want to bug the, neighbors just playing

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electric guitar without the, amp and it becomes two of

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the biggest songs of the mid, eighties no doubt about.

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It that's.

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Speaker 2: Incredible the same little crappy little. Apartment, yeah that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah by the, way do you know anything About Mickey? Ratt,

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no here's WHAT i know about. IT i don't know

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a lot about. It but apparently it was a comic, strip,

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okay that looked Like Mickey mouse's you, know, estranged.

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Speaker 3: Like A crumb style down on his luck?

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Speaker 2: Brother yeah, right, yeah who would who would do drugs

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and nail other?

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Speaker 3: Girls you?

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Speaker 2: Know and it was just kind of this irreverent take

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On Mickey. Mouse and Then Stephen piercy just thought it was.

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Hilarious by the, way the author Of Mickey, ratt a

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guy Named Robert, armstrong coined a term that we use

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all the time in every day. Vernacular, yeah you know

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what you call a fat person who lays around and

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doesn't do anything but WATCH.

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Speaker 3: Tv couch. Potato couch.

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Speaker 2: Potato he coined that, Term Robert.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong, fantastic and he was affiliated With Robert, crumb like

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they did stuff. Together Robert crumb had all of those

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kind OF x rated cartoons back in the seventies and,

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stuff and so it makes total sense that there you,

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go there you, go there you. Go all.

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Speaker 2: Right SO i don't know if you know this or.

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Not warren De martini was one of the guys who

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was actually In docin for a. Moment oh, yeah you,

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know Like George lynch auditions For ozzie he. Leaves he

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did call just like we need a guitar player and Warn.

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Dee martini is, like, WELL i can help.

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Speaker 3: Out mm.

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Speaker 2: Hmm so he stepped Into docin for a brief time.

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Speaker 3: A couple of. Days, yeah, yeah, okay these bands are

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super or. Linked, yeah all.

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Speaker 2: Right were ready to hit the next one on the.

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Speaker 3: Tape it's a song you've all been waiting. For my,

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gosh track number, three lay it.

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Speaker 4: Down see this song is, Incredible it's.

474
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: Fantastic this is a truly special. SONG i think It's

475
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,079
rat's best. Song oh, wow number one over round and

476
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,599
round and way, Cool, Junior i'm taking this one nice

477
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,920
by number one draft.

478
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: PICK i wouldn't argue with. YOU i, MEAN i think

479
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,240
it's a fantastic.

480
00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:51,799
Speaker 2: Song it was on My best of eighty, five Our

481
00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:53,599
top five of eighty five that we did right a

482
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:54,000
few months.

483
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,759
Speaker 3: Ago, well, YES i learned a little, something go back

484
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,960
and check that episode. Out but the kid From Jurassic

485
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,680
park is a younger. KID i guess he's nearly ten years,

486
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,119
younger so he'd been like five, baby you, know looks,

487
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,960
creepy looks like creepier Than Wednesday. Adams, creepy those big bug. Eyes,

488
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,880
yeah it's like, dark dark circles around his. Eyes and

489
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,359
he's actually wearing an actual tuxedo for his birthday and

490
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,480
there's a creepy clown and then he's making a birthday

491
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,000
wish and it ends up he's he is seeing into

492
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,839
the future where HE'S i Guess Stephen, piercy and the

493
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,400
cute little five year old girl next to him is

494
00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:36,200
now The playboy playmate that is on the cover of the.

495
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,480
Album Miss Marianne. Gravett so you sent me a video

496
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:44,839
where she's talking With David, letterman AND i wouldn't describe

497
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,240
her as particularly, verbal but she doesn't need to.

498
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,279
Speaker 2: Be she does not have to. Be she could just

499
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720
shut up and walk down the street and stop. Traffic. Literally,

500
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,680
yes she told a story On letterman that this guy

501
00:24:57,759 --> 00:24:59,519
was driving next to her trying to kind of wave her,

502
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,079
down and she was, like what's this guy doing bugging?

503
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,440
Me and he rear into the car in front of

504
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:06,759
him because he wasn't. Looking he was staring at, her

505
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240
and then the guy behind him was looking at her,

506
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,279
too and then he smashed into the guy who smashed

507
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,480
into the car cause they pile up because she is

508
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:14,079
that good.

509
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: Looking, yeah so SHE i went to Her wikipedia. Page

510
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,359
she has been in no less than twenty editions Of

511
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,160
playboy twenty and that does not Include Playboy, international which

512
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,000
the list is as long as my. Arm and, yes

513
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,799
she is, stunning stunning. SHOWSTOPPER i love. That he's, like

514
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:38,319
what do you get for doing? This And she's, like,

515
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,559
WELL i got a portion nine twenty eight AND i

516
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,000
got one hundred thousand? Dollars And i'm, like WOULD i

517
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,640
have gotten naked in nineteen eighty five for a portion

518
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119
and one hundred thousand? Dollars sign me? Up? YEAH i

519
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,279
what Have? Heck, yeah let's go Have? October was it eighty?

520
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:52,160
Three was that the?

521
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,519
Speaker 2: Year she was Play made of The year for eighty

522
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,720
three and was Miss october eighty?

523
00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:00,599
Speaker 3: TWO i think? Right And David letterman asked, her isn't

524
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,759
the saying uncomfortable in this, Position.

525
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: Dave dave's gone the centerbold open looking at it with,

526
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,039
Her she's just, like, yeah what's.

527
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: Up she's, LIKE i didn't pick that.

528
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:14,839
Speaker 2: POST i was trying to gather some information on her

529
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,480
because she really hasn't been any movies or.

530
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:17,799
Speaker 3: ANYTHING i don't really not that.

531
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Much not much on. Her since, THEN i read a

532
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,880
lot of comments about how she might be the best

533
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,440
looking woman ever featured in the pages Of playboy, magazine

534
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:28,440
and that is saying.

535
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,559
Speaker 3: Something, yeah she's very good.

536
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,079
Speaker 2: Looking she's also on the cover of this. Album, yes that's.

537
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,759
Speaker 3: Her, yeah she's in the video and she is the

538
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:39,079
one taking off the lingerie on the cover of this.

539
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,839
Speaker 2: Album, Now, yep by the, way this, Song warren De

540
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,039
martini had been working just kind of on the bus

541
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,319
and just kind of around on.

542
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: TOUR.

543
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: Yep demoed it In hawaii and when he played it

544
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,559
for both the band and Bow, Hill bohill is, like that's,

545
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:54,200
it that's our.

546
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: Single that is.

547
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: It and he said that when they were in the,

548
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,279
Studio warren was a perfectionist with the, guitar and he

549
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,759
said he played the solo for the first, time so

550
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,240
not only do you have this, killer incredible hit. Song

551
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,720
he played the, solo which is, amazing but he'll was,

552
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,160
like that's, it, dude we have one.

553
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,799
Speaker 3: Take that's.

554
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,599
Speaker 2: It And Warren dean is Like Warren. Dibert he's, like, no, no, NO

555
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,880
i can do it. BETTER i can do it. Better

556
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,400
and he did it like five or six more. Times

557
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,160
first one he just nailed right out of the.

558
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: Gate.

559
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:49,519
Speaker 2: YEAH i love this. SONG i think it's one of

560
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,480
the best songs of nineteen eighty. Five by the, Way

561
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,680
i'm gonna give a shout out to my, coworker Mister Mike.

562
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720
Carmon when he was in high. School he told me

563
00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:00,759
that there's a part Where steve And piercy kind of

564
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,880
whispers to he whispered in the. Video he's actually whispering

565
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400
in her. Ear he, SAYS i know you only want.

566
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,480
Romance he, Says i'll give you all THAT i. Can

567
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:16,200
but apparently at my friend's high school this heard lyrics

568
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,079
of all all THAT I. Can great, song love.

569
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: It, yeah. Fantastic so this one hit number, forty.

570
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:27,599
Speaker 2: Right this was their second and last top forty.

571
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:27,799
Speaker 1: Hit.

572
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,759
Speaker 3: Right i'm surprised that Way Cool junior didn't hit the

573
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:34,160
top forty me, too BUT i think it was time,

574
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,839
wise maybe too late to the. SHOW i hate to

575
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,519
leave this one too.

576
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Early but next song the album is called Give It. All,

577
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,960
okay another great, song. FANTASTIC i, mean it's kind of

578
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,079
like AC. Dc if you like one, song you're gonna

579
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:01,440
like all of.

580
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,279
Speaker 3: Them it's just crunchy. Rock that literally is the exact

581
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,240
thought THAT i had go through my head WHEN i

582
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,440
hit song number four on this When i'm, LIKE i

583
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,119
feel like this is back In, black where all of

584
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,839
the songs are kicking my butt in the exact same. Way,

585
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,799
yeah for, sure.

586
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,359
Speaker 2: Okay D one of the lyrics and Give It all

587
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,720
is quote she came behind and then showed me her,

588
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,920
Thighs AND i gotta think this is straight From Police

589
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,759
academy Where mahoney's behind the girl and he's, like come,

590
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,039
on come, on show me the.

591
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: Thighs what's your, Name Dadad?

592
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Thompson?

593
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:34,559
Speaker 3: Soon do you live around?

594
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:34,759
Speaker 2: Here?

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,319
Speaker 3: No? Soon what's your telephone?

596
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:36,559
Speaker 1: Number?

597
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: Thompson come, On i's front telephone number six, seven. Sir,

598
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,000
okay let's see the. Thighs come, on come, ON i

599
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,440
haven't got all day the. Thighs what in the hell

600
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,799
are you? Doing meeting. Women, SIR i cannot believe that

601
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,880
you just Quoted Police. Academy that is a that is

602
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880
a shirly. Movie we have to. Cover, bravo, Sir.

603
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,039
Speaker 2: Bravo you, know they really pushed. Back they didn't do

604
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,559
a lot of power. BALLADS i mean almost. None, yeah

605
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,359
in an era where a power ballad would sell a

606
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640
couple of million albums for. You, Yeah now we're going

607
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,240
to talk about a song here in just a, minute

608
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:21,039
AND i think might fill that, role, Okay but they

609
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:21,720
resisted that.

610
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Urge so they you, know they came up To la

611
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,640
and we're very quickly doing well in The la club

612
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,720
scene on The Sunset. Strip they're playing The, troubador they're

613
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,200
playing The. Whiskey they're getting all of those shows in

614
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,279
and we're very. Popular they were selling places, out but

615
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,119
they weren't getting, signed like so many other bands of

616
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,640
that time and that place were getting, signed and they.

617
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Weren't so they ended up they had a guy who, recognized,

618
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,799
hey this is a band who's really good and they're

619
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,880
all really good, looking AND i THINK i can make

620
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,359
something of. Them and this guy's name Was Marshall. Burrow

621
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,960
now we've talked about him. Before remember when we talked about.

622
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,519
Him i'll give you a. Hint he discovered a band

623
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,359
whose debut album came out in nineteen seventy, eight and

624
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,640
he was their Manager Van.

625
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Halen you got.

626
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,839
Speaker 3: It that's.

627
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Right he Brought Warner brothers To Van.

628
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Halen that is. Correct now correct me If i'm.

629
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,559
Speaker 2: Wrong but he also may have had a hand in

630
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,519
discovering The Beach.

631
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: Boys, OH i don't know about.

632
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: That you don't know.

633
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: That, no here you.

634
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,599
Speaker 2: Go you ready for?

635
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: This HERE i go for.

636
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: It Marshall burrow began his career at The William Morris

637
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,319
agency and in nineteen sixty two Signed The Beach boys

638
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,920
to a long term agency, contract representing them from the

639
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,359
start of their career through nineteen sixty. Five Brian wilson

640
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
was twenty years old WHEN i met, him along with

641
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200
his brothers and Father Murray.

642
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,119
Speaker 3: Wilson. Wow, wow talk about a guy who should have

643
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,000
A wikipedia. Page, right that's. Nuts the signs the agency

644
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:08,000
agreement for The Beach, boys discovers Van, halen then discovers.

645
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,119
Speaker 2: Rat he also had a hand IN. CCR i Believe

646
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,079
Greden's Clearwater revival.

647
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: Fantastic so he produces some of their stuff on his

648
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,480
independent label Called Timecoast. Music. Now they had a single

649
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,640
on that Called You Think You're? Tough? Yes have you

650
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,319
seen the album cover for? THAT i. Have it's got

651
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:30,319
a pair of women's legs with rats climbing up and down. Them.

652
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440
Yep do you know whose legs they? Are it would

653
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400
be Miss Tawny? Katine you got? It did we mention

654
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,240
already that she was the girlfriend Of Robin crosby like

655
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,319
high school, sweethearts AND i remember seeing interviews with her

656
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,240
well past The White snake days where she was like

657
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:48,599
he was my one true, love like she absolutely adored.

658
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,599
Speaker 2: Him she was tearing up while talking about.

659
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: Him, okay but You Think You're tough wasn't actually their

660
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720
first single to get on a? Record do you know about?

661
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: THIS i want to say their first which, one maybe you?

662
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,319
Have been Called Doctor, Rock.

663
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: Tell The, World tell The. World Same in nineteen eighty,

664
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,160
two same year That Warren De martini joins the, band

665
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,880
they get on the compilation album Called Metal, massacre which

666
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,920
we've talked about. Before, wow, okay and it's the first,

667
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000
One Medical massacre. One there's been a bunch of them since.

668
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,319
Then they were all unsigned, bands, right that's the whole

669
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,920
album is unsigned. Bands So rat is on there with

670
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,160
the song tell The, world and last song on the

671
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,279
album is by a band you might have heard of Called,

672
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160
metallica who was so unknown at that point that they

673
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,559
misspelled their name the first time they Pressed Metal Massacre part, ONE.

674
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,359
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you my Lead A ford.

675
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,519
Speaker 3: Story, okay, yeah tell me.

676
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: So obviously at this time the, record you, Know Motley

677
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,319
crue has blown. Up, OKAY i mean not blown, up

678
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,480
but good and. Big people are looking for the Next Motley. Crue,

679
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,839
Well rat's kind of in that, succession, right looking for

680
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,680
the Next motley Cru Here's, rat but yet they remain.

681
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:06,960
Unsigned Stephen pearcy's, LIKE i don't really understand. It we're,

682
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,360
good we can, play and we've got great. Songs they

683
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,800
just remained, unsigned, Right and now they've Got Marshall burrow

684
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960
who's managing. Them he had a office at The. Whiskey

685
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,840
they had become the house band for The, whiskey and

686
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,679
so now they're working in. Tandem, well he sets up

687
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,519
this concert where it's gonna Be rat And Leada. Ford,

688
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,639
Okay and at the Time Leda ford she had been

689
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:29,559
the guitarist for The.

690
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:33,119
Speaker 3: Runaways, Right, okay so she was actually a name Cherry.

691
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:38,599
Speaker 2: Bomb, Right so this Was july twenty, seventh nineteen eighty. Three,

692
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,079
Well leita was upset that she was going to be

693
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,159
the first band like the opener for Rat.

694
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:45,679
Speaker 1: Oh.

695
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: Okay she felt, Like i'm a bigger, name they should

696
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,519
open for, me and so she kind of staged a

697
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,559
protest by not showing up on. Time and so they're

698
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,280
like waiting and waiting because she's their, opener and they're.

699
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: Like it's forty five, minute it's. Late when's she gonna show?

700
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,559
Speaker 2: Up and they finally get to the point where they're, like,

701
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:05,639
well screw, her we're going.

702
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:06,519
Speaker 3: On so they take the.

703
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: Stage, well at the, time there were people there From

704
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,519
atlantic ready to.

705
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Sign this was the this was the make or break

706
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,000
show for them at The Beverly. Wiltshire that's, right this is.

707
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:19,320
Yeah so they they'd been unsigned for so long they've

708
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,519
just felt like this is our last. Hurrah if we

709
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,360
don't get signed on this, one we're not going. Anywhere

710
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,440
so they blow the doors.

711
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: Off lida shows up in the middle of their show

712
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,199
and they're, like we're not. Tough we're on. Stage good,

713
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,639
luck you.

714
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: Know if anybody sticks around AFTER i guess that's.

715
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah and the president Of, Atlantic Doug, morris comes

716
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,559
up to him afterwards and, says how'd you like to

717
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:41,000
be With?

718
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:45,639
Speaker 3: Atlantic he was sitting With Marshall burrow at the table

719
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,199
and it was UNTIL i mean they'd gone through several,

720
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,239
songs but when they started playing round and, round he was,

721
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,360
like sign them, done all?

722
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Right next song on the, Album this song is Called

723
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:00,719
closer To My, heart.

724
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: To me The way That You. Are, Okay, well when

725
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,480
hair metal bands say it's time for the rock, ballad

726
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:34,199
they either pull out the piano or the twelve string,

727
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,039
guitar And i'm guessing this is the one you're referring

728
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,800
to with the. Ballad this is the slowest song on

729
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,639
the on the album as AS i can. Tell and

730
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,559
you Got Robin crosby playing a beautiful twelve string guitar

731
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,679
for the intro and kind of mix in with this. Song,

732
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:47,880
YEAH i love the.

733
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: SONG i think this one could have been a major

734
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,000
hit if they had just released. It, yeah with that,

735
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,199
video you, know you think about the road video with

736
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,639
guys looking out the window and.

737
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: You're black and. White, yeah you have them boozing it

738
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:05,760
up up and being sad and then. Girls, yeah, exactly

739
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,039
them hanging the lingerie in the bus that oh, yeah

740
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,199
That Marshall BURROW i heard him talking. About he was,

741
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,880
like they started collecting things from every town that they went,

742
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,119
to and by things he meant lingerie and sex, toys

743
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,679
which they hung off of the roof of the tour.

744
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,039
Bus at some, Point Bobby blotzer gets on the bus

745
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:50,840
and he's, like it smells like a bard And Marshall

746
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,599
burrow was, like, oh the stink was. Funky.

747
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,519
Speaker 2: YEAH i Heard Stephen percy say that it got crabbed.

748
00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:58,800
Out they had to fumigate the.

749
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: Bus don't sit, there don't use a bathroom on the.

750
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,039
Bus oh my.

751
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:06,079
Speaker 2: Gosh the.

752
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: Life of a rock. Star. Yeah so After atlantic offers

753
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,079
them a, deal they immediately get into the studio and

754
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,280
start recording out of The. Cellar fantastic album.

755
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: It Is and who is That Tony Katanah you can't

756
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,920
see it from here.

757
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yes Tawny Katine robin's. Girlfriend she's on the album

758
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,679
cover and she's in the first video Called back For.

759
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,280
More it's like her and a little girlfriend in a

760
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,199
little sock hoop and then she goes to the jukebox

761
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,480
and puts the record, on which goes doesn't fit, right

762
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,559
and finally plops down and back for more starts. Playing

763
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,559
now you've got some great cameos in this. One obviously

764
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:48,639
you Got Tawny. Katine, yes you Got Marshall, burrow because

765
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,679
a few minutes later it's it seems like it's the

766
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400
same two, girls but they're dressed, differently but they seem

767
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
to be schmoozing it up with some old. Businessman Marshall

768
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,320
burrell is the old, businessman, okay, Okay and then a

769
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,360
little bit later, on just kind of a foreshadowing of

770
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,920
what will come With round And. Round at the end

771
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960
of the, video there's a guy in a motorcycle who

772
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:11,480
like races into the club that they're playing at and

773
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,360
wrecks the, motorcycle and when he takes the helmet, off

774
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,320
It's Milton, burrell who Is Marshall burrow's. Uncle famed actor

775
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,119
comedian dud Did Uncle milty where he would dress in

776
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,920
drag and stuff like. That but he's wrecked the motorcycle

777
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,079
and he's missing his two front teeth from the. Wreck

778
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,719
but there's one more cameo on. It they get they're

779
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,079
all piled in a car the, Girls like a couple

780
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:35,880
of the members of the band come and steal the

781
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,440
girls out of the sockhopp or, whatever and they're riding

782
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,840
around in this convertible car while they get arrested for

783
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,440
not paying the bill at the. Diner and when they

784
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,599
get pulled, over there are two cops and when they

785
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:48,840
take their helmet, off they get this long. Hair you

786
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,159
know who the two cops, Are, No nikky six And Tommy.

787
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Lee really, Yes so there's always this talk of like

788
00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,320
a feud between these two, bands BUT i think the were,

789
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,519
buddies like they would hang out and do blow and

790
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,519
girls together and you. Know and, yeah so they've freechered

791
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:08,079
in their first.

792
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,519
Speaker 2: Video, WELL i mean you talk about that in nineteen eighty.

793
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,679
Two this is After Motley crue has made their first

794
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,239
album nineteen eighty.

795
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: Two this is Pre Shout out The.

796
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: Devil, Robin, Steven nicky And tommy almost formed their own.

797
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Band oh, Wow.

798
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,159
Speaker 2: And if that, happens it goes a different. Direction it's

799
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,000
the what IFFs here are?

800
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,199
Speaker 3: Incredible. Yeah, well and then the another what if is

801
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,960
That robin breaks up With Tawny Katine in nineteen eighty,

802
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,400
four we don't have The jaguar, dance we don't have

803
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,280
the seductive looks driving down the.

804
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,519
Speaker 2: Highway maybe that Impacts White snake's.

805
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: Career go check out Our White snake Episode, fantastic which

806
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,320
we compare Two Molly. Crue that's, Right Joe's. Girls that

807
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,159
was a lot of. Fun all.

808
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,039
Speaker 2: RIGHT i do have one story for you On Stephen.

809
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: Pearcy, yeah go for.

810
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,519
Speaker 2: It So Stephen piercy growing up, rambunctious kind of trouble.

811
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,440
Maker but all he was interested in is like.

812
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: Racing he wanted to be a top fuel Ration do

813
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,159
you know what those? Are, Okay so you know In

814
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,360
parenthood The Keanu reeves where he's like the drag like

815
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,599
the drag car that's gonna be super. Long that's What

816
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,519
that's What Robin pierce he wanted to. Do he wanted

817
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,039
to be one of those drag racer with the LIKE i,

818
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:16,760
mean they accelerate faster than any other cars in the.

819
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,559
Speaker 2: World, Okay so he wanted to race. Cars, yeah and

820
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,199
had zero interest in. Music. Okay, well he's riding his

821
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:26,960
bike one day and gets hit by a car and

822
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,760
the car breaks his.

823
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: Leg he's in the.

824
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: Hospital he's laying in the hospital with broken leg and

825
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,800
a friend brings in an acoustic guitar and he's, like,

826
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,159
Well i'm just laying, here might as well learn to play.

827
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,800
GUITAR i guess, Yeah and that is where it takes.

828
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,199
Off nineteen seventy. Four he's laying there in the hospital

829
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:44,239
bed starts strumming on that.

830
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,679
Speaker 3: Guitar the first, show somebody said break a, leg and he,

831
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,039
SAID i already. DID i just made that.

832
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: Up hits up on your tape, player kick it, out

833
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000
flip it over for side, two and we begin side

834
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,320
two with the song Called between The.

835
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 3: Eyes so say what you will About Mike rino Or Mark,

836
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,360
knopfler there's only one guy who did the headband, right

837
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,480
and that Was Stephen. Piercy he nailed. IT i, mean

838
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:38,159
he looks like a, pirate, right he's got. It but

839
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:40,679
he's got this long flowy. Thing he's got his long

840
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,599
hair flowing over the other, side and he's wearing the frilly.

841
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,840
SHIRTS i, mean he looks like he could be, uh

842
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,760
he could be playing the lead and. Billy BUT i

843
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,800
mean it's just he's killing. It you.

844
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,039
Speaker 2: Know that was an intentional choice by. Them they talked

845
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,039
about how they would go to, concerts they see a

846
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,880
bunch of, guys but they're, like, hey we want, girls you.

847
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,480
Know and so they became what they called fashion rock fashion,

848
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,079
rock and even like on their early flyers it says

849
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,119
rat fashion.

850
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:09,519
Speaker 3: Rock what does that? Mean that means we're wearing tight

851
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,400
black leather, Pants that's what that.

852
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: Means and a cool. Headband, so you, know just to

853
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,199
kind of backtrack a little, bit when we talk about

854
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,280
The out of The cellar, album one of the songs

855
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,639
from that album is a song called lack Of. Communication,

856
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,719
now that song was written at the last minute When bohill's, like,

857
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,840
hey we need another. One you, know we need another, one,

858
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Right and So Jan, crusier who's the bass player who

859
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,440
had been in docking at one, point he comes up

860
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,119
with a song called lack Of. Communication AND i thought

861
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,199
this was kind of telling him of how the band was.

862
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Run so he knocks out this. Song well it's a,

863
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,639
hit like it goes on to become a. Hit but

864
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:48,519
when he gets in the, Studio stephen is like totally

865
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:51,559
reworking the lyrics And one's, like, dude that's not HOW

866
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:55,119
i wrote, it and that's it doesn't even make sense

867
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:57,840
what you're, saying And steven, says, look, Dude i'm the.

868
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,559
Singer i've got to be able to sell these, lyrics

869
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,159
so sit over there and shut. Up And one's, like,

870
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,119
well at least make it make, sense you, know let's

871
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,039
work on. It he, Says stephen went up to him

872
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,480
and took the lyrics and tore them in his. Face one,

873
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:12,800
said was that moment THAT i KNEW i was going

874
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:13,760
to have trouble with this?

875
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: Guy, yeah so it's interesting you talk about. That you,

876
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,280
know we need one more. Song so after they did

877
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,079
Their japan, Tour WARREN. D martini gets home and he

878
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,280
gets a call LIKE i, mean he's just walked in the,

879
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,039
door like off the plane in the door and he

880
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,159
gets a call from FROM Duezl zappa and he's, like, hey,

881
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,559
dude love your. Stuff would you like to come over and?

882
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,679
Play and he's a Huge Frank zappa, Fan WARREN. D

883
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,320
martiniz and so he's like, yeah, Sure like what? When

884
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,039
what day you want to? Do and he's like can

885
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,840
you just come over right? Now and he's, like, now, okay, yeah,

886
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,599
NOW i Mean i've just been on a plane for

887
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,079
seventeen hours after A WorldWind, tour but, sure, right and

888
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,880
he was absolutely, exhausted But frank was, there And frank

889
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,159
would later go on to say that his favorite contemporary

890
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,920
guitar guitarist Is Warrendy MARTINIZ. Whoa SO i Mean Frank

891
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,559
zappa is telling saying he's the. Best that's pretty freaking.

892
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:14,280
Incredible but while they're, there they're playing guitar, together which

893
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,719
you would, expect, Right dweezl And, warren and Then frank

894
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,960
comes in and he's he Shows warren this kind of

895
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:24,360
neat it's basically like a warm up, scale like a

896
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,599
warm up finger pattern to, do and So, warren you,

897
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,760
know adopts, it begins to play, it and then he's,

898
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,039
LIKE i feel Like i'd use this in a. Song

899
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,800
and so on their fourth album they switch producers because

900
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,920
they didn't like Bo, hill right, right so they went

901
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,039
With Mike, stone who would work With. Queen so you

902
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,440
know it pretty good, shot, Right. Yeah, well apparently like

903
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,639
when the when the guy From atlantic listened to the,

904
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,840
record he Called bohill and he's, like, HEY i just

905
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,320
got the dad on, this and he's, like, OH i

906
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,400
do sound sounds like they're a hotel. Band it's, awful,

907
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:01,880
Right and so they go back to Bow. Hill, Now

908
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:05,320
Mike stone had heard this song That warren De martini

909
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,639
had put this scale that he had learned From Frank zappa,

910
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
in and he's, like, eh put that. Away we don't

911
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,360
really know that it's not gonna be that. Good and

912
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,079
so they go to Bow, hill they remix the, album

913
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,960
they get everything, together and again it's that we need

914
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,440
one more, song and so he's, like, WELL i got

915
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,360
this song That mike SAID i should put in the,

916
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,159
box but if we don't have, one we don't have.

917
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,360
One and he's, like, yeah play it for, me and

918
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,880
he plays in the song and he's, like what's that.

919
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,440
Called he's, LIKE i was thinking something Like Way Cool.

920
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:52,559
Junior so if you listen To Way Cool, Junior i'll

921
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:53,119
pull that up real.

922
00:46:53,199 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: Quick, yeah how about?

923
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: That isn't that? Crazy that's. Fantastic so that little lick

924
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,000
is Something Frank zappa Taught Warrendy martiniz before they were ever,

925
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:15,719
anybody and he just incorporated it into their fourth.

926
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,679
Speaker 2: Album that's, fantastic and to, Me Way Cole junior is

927
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,440
absolutely one of their best top three.

928
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: Songs it's, fantastic and that little riff makes an otherwise

929
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,559
just kind of standard blues song into something very. SPECIAL

930
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,239
i got something for you on that. Song.

931
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,119
Speaker 2: Okay so at the very beginning you have this clickity.

932
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,599
Speaker 3: Click clickick click click. Click.

933
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Bow, HILL i was, like this song needs something.

934
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,719
ELSE i need, something needs. Something so he turned to

935
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,880
his second ENGINEERING'S i go to the drug, store give

936
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000
me ten. Thimbles and when he came, back he put

937
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:49,920
the thimbles on his fingers and he said it was

938
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,800
on a hard, surface and it's, like lick get. It

939
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,280
that's Bow hill playing thimbles on a.

940
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,519
Speaker 3: Table. Fantastic SO i love.

941
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 2: It Wakele. Jr great, Song, yeah. Okay next song on

942
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,519
the album is a song called What You Give Is

943
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:18,559
What You? Get. Okay this is one of the strongest

944
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:20,639
songs on the. ALBUM i think this is like next

945
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,599
tier Under you're In love And lay It.

946
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: Down it's got a great use of the phrase what

947
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,320
you give is what you? Get. YEAH i mean taking

948
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,480
that and making a song that works is a tough

949
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,920
sell and they did a great job With.

950
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's. UNDERRATED i don't hear it a,

951
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,239
lot but it's a good. SONG i think at this

952
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,440
point we need to talk About Robin.

953
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:45,599
Speaker 3: Crosby, Okay Robin, Crosby so when he was a, kid

954
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,400
his dad was a chemistry teacher until he was about

955
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,440
eight years, old and then his dad gets asked to

956
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,559
be a photographer to illustrate the book Called The call To.

957
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:01,880
California and it was Like california commit was commissioning this, book,

958
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,880
yeah and it was commemorating The california By. Centennial and

959
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,920
so his, Dad HARRY. W, crosby got a pack mule

960
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,039
and followed the root of The Portola expedition of seventeen

961
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:19,679
sixty nine to make photographs to illustrate this. Book and

962
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,119
it WAS i mean he went six hundred miles on

963
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,920
a pack mule. On, yes he was on the back

964
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,880
of a. Mule, wow six hundred miles to illustrate this.

965
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,280
Book and he ended up doing like he did like

966
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,119
four more, books the last of, which oddly you just

967
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:36,920
run into these, things was published by The university Of

968
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880
Oklahoma press back in like nineteen ninety four or. Something

969
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:43,440
he just passed away last year at the age of ninety,

970
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:48,880
eight obviously significantly outlived his, son who has an incredibly tragic.

971
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Story So Robin, crosby as we've, said six foot, FIVE i,

972
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960
mean built like a linebacker or like a powerheading third.

973
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,280
Baseman grew up playing. Baseball it was a big baseball,

974
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,679
player fell in love with the, guitar and of course

975
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,039
Grabbed Tony contain and shot for the moon right and

976
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,320
over the. Time you, know they called him. King he

977
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840
was their. Leader Bo hill, said he was the glue

978
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,760
to the. Band he was the. One when Bo hill

979
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,320
was finishing up the, mixing you guys can leave the

980
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,159
studio as long AS i can call whoever and they

981
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:23,960
can be ready to come in and help me with the, mixing,

982
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,599
said they always Called robin Because robin's the most level,

983
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:29,800
headed most easy, going the most reasonable person to work. With,

984
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,079
well later, on at like The reach for The Sky

985
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,760
Tourjan crusier starts noticing he's like man who keeps throwing

986
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,840
up in our dressing room, Bathroom, like what the heck

987
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,239
is going on? Here, yeah well nobody knew because he

988
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,119
hid it so. Well But Robin crosby had a very

989
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:51,679
serious heroin. Addiction yeah that was getting out of.

990
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: Control, YEAH i mean and got out of.

991
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: Control he said he had a five hundred dollars a day, habit.

992
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: Which you can sustain if you're topping the, charts but

993
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,800
they weren't always topping the, charts and so ULTIMATELY i

994
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,280
led to him losing all of his. Money, YEAH i

995
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,440
heard him talking about this and he, said telling me

996
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,960
to stop heroin was like telling me to stop. Breathing,

997
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,199
yeah like it's not easy to. Do when he got

998
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,239
kicked out of the, band he went to. Rehab when

999
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,559
it came, back he tried to join the band and they're, like,

1000
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:27,920
okay well let's see what you, got and he couldn't. Play,

1001
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,360
yeah and what led to him getting kicked out the

1002
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,679
first Time they were struggling to regain their footing that

1003
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239
they had. Lost did a show In, japan AND i,

1004
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,559
mean it's this. Simple he grabbed the wrong. Guitar like,

1005
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,920
guitarists you, know like how much difference can it? Make,

1006
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
well the difference is you will tune it, Differently like

1007
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,039
sometimes you have a, song you're just going to tune

1008
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,119
the guitar a half step or a full step. Down,

1009
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:54,519
well he grabs the wrong guitar for a, song which

1010
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,719
means he's trying to play it in a key half

1011
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,360
a step different than everyone else in the band is playing,

1012
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,159
it and it just sounds it's just nails against the.

1013
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Chalkboard it's it's The jaws theme to make you feel, uncomfortable,

1014
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,400
RIGHT i, mean it's just at some point every member

1015
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,360
of the band was looking at him because he just

1016
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,159
didn't even realize he was the only one who didn't

1017
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:17,360
know every member of the audience was looking at, him

1018
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,599
and they're just, like this is just not good. Work

1019
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,480
so they kicked him.

1020
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,679
Speaker 2: Out try to come, back like he got out of.

1021
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,719
Rehab really we're kind of hoping that he could regain.

1022
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,239
It you, know he wanted a chance to redeem, himself

1023
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,559
but he couldn't. Play and So Stephen pearcey's, like he.

1024
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: Can't it's not.

1025
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: Happening, Yeah and so he lost his, fame he lost his,

1026
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,199
band he lost his.

1027
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: Fortune lost his. Wife he lost his, wife by the,

1028
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,960
way he did, okay After Tawny, katange he. Did he

1029
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:51,440
married what was her, Name Lori Carr Y carr nineteen eighty,

1030
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,360
seven who was the year before Play mad of The

1031
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,559
month In december nineteen eighty. Six.

1032
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah and if you're wondering If i've ever seen her,

1033
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,519
before if you have These slaughter, albums stick it to.

1034
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:04,880
You she is the one on the COVER.

1035
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: I was hoping to blow your mind that little, tidbit

1036
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,639
and you already knew. It good job when it comes to,

1037
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:10,679
PLAYMATES i know my.

1038
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Stuff so he lost, everything and on top of, that

1039
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,760
he CONTRACTED, hiv, yeah which became full BLOWN.

1040
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,119
Speaker 3: AIDS i, mean it was reported that he had died

1041
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:26,400
OF aids when he passed in two thousand and two

1042
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,679
at only forty two years. Old AND i Remember nicky

1043
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,400
six talking about it in The Heroin diaries about just

1044
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,159
how devastating all of that. Was but it was NOT

1045
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,000
aids that killed.

1046
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:40,119
Speaker 2: Him he took one last mega booster shot Of.

1047
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: Heroin, yeah he's gonna die doing the thing he go

1048
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,559
out and loved more than anything else in the, world.

1049
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: By the, way you, know In Heroin, Diaries dicky six

1050
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:52,519
gave him a shot and, said, look you come with,

1051
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:54,960
me you live with, me you live, clean and you

1052
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,440
can stay.

1053
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: Here and he couldn't couldn't do, it and he had

1054
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:57,800
to kick him.

1055
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: Out we're talking about he had to borrow dollars from these,

1056
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,719
guys you, know like he would Beg Juan, crucier just

1057
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,840
give me twenty. Dollars it soars on his, FEET i,

1058
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,480
mean just. Terrible it lived in a. Shack just the

1059
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,480
worst of the. Worst, yeah by the, WAY i for

1060
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,840
a happier. STORY i sent you a little trivia note.

1061
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:22,960
Yesterday name the soundtrack that included contributions From, Elton, John Jeff,

1062
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:27,039
Beck Robin, crosby, LIKE i don't really Know Young Guns

1063
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,159
too soundtrack That john Bon Jovi blaze The.

1064
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:29,519
Speaker 3: Glory.

1065
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Wow Robin crosby played on that.

1066
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: Album nice. Well rat had Bon jovi open for them

1067
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,360
in this, tour didn't they The invasion Of privacy?

1068
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:38,639
Speaker 2: Tour?

1069
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,159
Speaker 3: Right, yes Bon jovi one year Before slippery when we came.

1070
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,599
Speaker 2: Out this is the seventy eight hundred degrees Fair nheit Bon.

1071
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:48,599
Speaker 3: Jovi, yeah that's, Crazy.

1072
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Okay next song on the, ALBUM, yep song called Got

1073
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,119
me on The.

1074
00:54:52,159 --> 00:55:09,199
Speaker 3: Line. Hello they're. Consistent.

1075
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: Yep it's a pump and rocker like the first.

1076
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,639
Speaker 3: One you're gonna like this, one that's.

1077
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: RIGHT i don't think this one is particularly, special but

1078
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:17,880
It's rat.

1079
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,159
Speaker 3: Right it's it's got the same. Sound if you love the,

1080
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,239
sound you're gonna love. It to, me it. Is if

1081
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,400
there's a filler song on this, one it's probably the.

1082
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,320
SONG i agree with.

1083
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,679
Speaker 2: That, yeah you, KNOW i wanted to talk to you

1084
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,119
just for a. Moment we've kind of we haven't really

1085
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:34,840
got to their signature song as, much the Song round

1086
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,280
And round blew up in nineteen eighty.

1087
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,639
Speaker 3: Four Absolutely.

1088
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah one of the cool things about that was the

1089
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,960
music video that you have this rock band and basically

1090
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:53,239
they're invading a dinner party and they're coming through the

1091
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,760
ceiling and through the, walls and you have all these you,

1092
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,960
know uppity people who are trying to have a dinner.

1093
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,679
Speaker 3: Party well it's Stars. Milton Milton burrell Is Uncle milty

1094
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,840
and is doing the drag.

1095
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Thing he plays the, husband he plays the, wife and

1096
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,599
the guys had a great time with him during this

1097
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,199
filming of this, video and they said they would ask

1098
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,159
him tons of questions about the old. Days And Stephen pearcy,

1099
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,440
said the only THING i wanted to know Is, milton

1100
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,679
did you Nail Marilyn?

1101
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: Monroe he, said of, course of COURSE i, did because

1102
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,320
they thoughtless hilarious but the interesting.

1103
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: Thing so that became heavy rotation AND mtv sold a

1104
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,960
ton of albums for. Them funny, video but great song as.

1105
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,320
Well you still hear it on the radio. Today when

1106
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,079
they went in the studio to record out of The.

1107
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:58,519
Cellar everybody was dead, broke like zero income on their

1108
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,719
tax returns when they returned from The out of The cellar,

1109
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,800
tour one point two million dollars what each of them.

1110
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: Were worth each. Each pretty.

1111
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,079
Speaker 2: Impressive they went from having absolutely nothing to being filthy.

1112
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: Rich i'll tell you WHAT i love about that. SONG i,

1113
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,199
MEAN i love the whole. Song it's. Fantastic it's it's

1114
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,960
got staying, power it's here, candy all of that. Stuff

1115
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:24,960
but the solo that they have in that, song it's

1116
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:28,639
both of them playing at the same time like there's

1117
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,800
it's like the end Of Hotel, california Where Don felder

1118
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,639
And Joe walsh are like back and, forth but then

1119
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:38,760
also at the very end playing riffs that are on

1120
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,159
top of each. Other and it's absolutely absolutely. Fantastic, yeah love.

1121
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: It, okay next song on the album song Called You

1122
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:59,760
Should Know By. Now, okay another kind of filler song for.

1123
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,159
Speaker 3: Me, YEAH i do want to, mention you, know like

1124
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:07,719
to be a fantastic, band especially a fantastic hair metal,

1125
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:11,920
band you have to have a drummer who really drives

1126
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:15,280
through the, show like bang The gong's, hard. BABY i,

1127
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,880
mean he's got to hit. Hard he's got to be,

1128
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,280
good he's got to be great at his. Fills And

1129
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,119
Bobby blotzer does all of that like he's kind of

1130
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:25,039
the guy in the back that you don't think about that,

1131
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,440
much but he really is an incredible. DRUMMER i SAW

1132
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,519
i think you may have sent it to Me Don

1133
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,199
docin talking about how he, was you, know at his.

1134
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,599
House he and the band that he had at the,

1135
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,360
time who he, HAD i think it, was what was, it?

1136
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:45,360
Airplay Airborn? Airborne, right had Been airborne for a, while

1137
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,679
and then another band Became airborne and they couldn't do that,

1138
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:50,800
anymore so just called It docin as just kind of a,

1139
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,519
placeholder right, Right it's like it rhymes with. Rockin you,

1140
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:58,199
know we'll figure out something else later. On but, anyway

1141
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,480
when there's still no, buddies just playing at somebody's, house

1142
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:04,920
he said they would do it for forty five minutes

1143
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,719
and then they stop because the cops would show. Up

1144
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,960
and then they would wait forty five minutes and they

1145
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,079
play for another forty five minutes before the cops showed up.

1146
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,559
Again you just timed it. Right you didn't get into much.

1147
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:16,440
Trouble but he says one day they're playing in their

1148
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:21,000
set and the pizza delivery guy comes and he's, like,

1149
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:23,639
oh you guys. Playing he's like, yeah he, GOES i play.

1150
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:26,400
Drums he's, like have a, seat, man let's, see let's

1151
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,159
se what you can. Do he gets in plays next

1152
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:33,079
week he's with the, band and that pizza delivery guy

1153
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:38,079
Was Bobby. Blotzer So Bobby blotzer is In docin With

1154
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,119
Juan crucier who's playing the, bass, Right and as you,

1155
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,280
Mentioned Warrendy martini was a part of the. Band so

1156
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,239
that's that's three out of the five members of the. Band,

1157
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,039
yep AND i, BET i Bet Stephen pearcy And Robin

1158
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:55,280
crosby probably hung out and played with Doc in a

1159
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,639
little bit at some. Point oh of, course, yeah.

1160
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,599
Speaker 2: Of, course it's pretty. Amazing you. Know i've got a

1161
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:02,199
little tidbit for. YOU i don't know if you know

1162
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:04,239
this fact or, not But rat came out with all

1163
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:07,480
these crunchy. Rockers but they also had a couple of

1164
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:12,599
songs on. Soundtracks now one we neither one of these we've,

1165
01:00:12,599 --> 01:00:15,320
covered BUT i wondered if maybe next year's the year

1166
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,000
for one of. These so they had a song called

1167
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:24,239
Body talk On The Golden. Child, okay remember The Golden

1168
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,840
child With Eddie.

1169
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: MURPHY i, do, YEAH i keep.

1170
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: Going, Okay so body talk familiar? SONG i bet you've heard, it.

1171
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:33,239
Okay and then they had a song Called Nobody rides For,

1172
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,559
free maybe their last truly great song h off of

1173
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,000
The Point break.

1174
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,519
Speaker 3: Soundtrack ah, yes, okay, yeah, Nice, no that's a good.

1175
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:47,960
ONE i Love Point. Break So i've told stories about

1176
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,519
every member of the band now except for, One. Crucier,

1177
01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:54,039
yeah All i've got on. Him and this is actually

1178
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:58,360
kind of. Impressive he played With Quiet riot as their

1179
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,239
basis right Before Randy, road like With Randy, rhoads Before

1180
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,960
Randy rhoads left to go play With Ozzy. Osbourne so

1181
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,760
take that story full circle from what we learned before

1182
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,719
About JAKE E lee and.

1183
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: Me we've talked About, Docin we've talked ABOUT, Rat we've

1184
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,679
talked About. Ozzy we've talked About Quiet. Riot Mark torrian

1185
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,960
From Bullet boys was IN. RAT i think for.

1186
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,679
Speaker 3: A, MOMENT i have got A Jimmy Hendrick scorpions connection

1187
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,159
that's gonna blow your. Mind That i'll tell you on

1188
01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:27,599
the next.

1189
01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: Song oh, okay well let's get to it, Then, okay

1190
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,719
last song on the. Album this song is Called dangerous

1191
01:01:33,760 --> 01:02:00,360
But worth The. Risk, okay guess which song opened every

1192
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,280
concert on The invasion Of Your privacy?

1193
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,719
Speaker 3: Tour is It dangerous But worth the? Risk dangers but

1194
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,199
worth the? Risk it's it's a great song to check

1195
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,639
the sound levels. With, HONESTLY i, MEAN i know that

1196
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:14,519
they do that before every show. Anyway but, like you've

1197
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:16,840
got such a deep bass on the guitar on this.

1198
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,679
ONE i haven't looked it, up BUT i wouldn't be

1199
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,920
surprised if it was a drop tuning. Somehow but, THAT i,

1200
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,559
mean it's very, deep full fat bass sound for the.

1201
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:27,320
Guitar love.

1202
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: IT i think this should have been the title for the.

1203
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,840
Album oh it Could invasion Of Your. Privacy we're, like

1204
01:02:33,079 --> 01:02:33,480
what does that?

1205
01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: Mean you AND i both like we didn't really come

1206
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,000
up with. Anything not really. Good dangers but worth the.

1207
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:39,760
Risk that's a great, ONE i.

1208
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: Think so tell me the. Story i'm dying.

1209
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:41,679
Speaker 1: Here.

1210
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: Okay so scorpions first, Album Lonesome Crow, okay, okay came

1211
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,519
out nineteen seventy, two, right all, Right, Yeah so the

1212
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,400
story goes on like the first pressing of the, album you,

1213
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,679
know the first when they had they released so many of.

1214
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,360
Them in the liner notes in kind of the small,

1215
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,960
print they had a phone number on. There oh, cool

1216
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,239
and and it's, like, oh is this the phone number

1217
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,559
to the, publisher the production, company the, studio what it?

1218
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:13,039
Is you? Know and so these kids In San diego

1219
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,559
notice it's the kids that might have been. ADULTS i

1220
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,159
don't know they noticed this phone. Number but It's german

1221
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,280
and this is this is the seventies, eighties like twelve

1222
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,000
dollars a, minute right, Exactly like it's, nuts like it's

1223
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:29,039
ridiculous you could not. Call and so but they're just,

1224
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:31,760
like you know, what they were squatting in a house

1225
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:34,199
that somebody else was paying the phone, bill like it

1226
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:36,800
was some you, know some rich place where they had

1227
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,760
just left the phone on to go vacation and. Wherever,

1228
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,719
right and they're squatting in this. House and so they

1229
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,440
decide to try to call this, number thinking they're going

1230
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:50,440
to get the. Studio rudy shankkar answers the. Phone what no.

1231
01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:54,000
Way they Put Rudy Shank carr's phone number on the

1232
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:59,119
on the, album, right and so the guy just bs

1233
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:02,239
Is rudy shankar are for like ten? Minutes you know

1234
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:05,079
and is try and convince him that he has got

1235
01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:08,599
this invention that he has that will change the way

1236
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:12,519
the guitar has, played and he really Needs Uli roth's phone,

1237
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:16,320
number and after ten, Minutes Rudy shankar's, like all, right,

1238
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,199
yeah here's the phone number and gives Him Uli roth's phone. Numbers, okay.

1239
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Yeah so fast forward a few, Years WARREN. D martini

1240
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,039
is in high school with his buddies and they've got

1241
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,360
this story and he's, like, whatever this is not, real

1242
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,159
and they're, like Here's Uhli roth's phone, number and so

1243
01:04:36,239 --> 01:04:39,039
he tries it and it never goes through and he's,

1244
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,519
like what AM i? Thinking I'm i'm In. La he's In.

1245
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:45,360
Germany there's a total time difference. Here so he like

1246
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,480
does the math and he's, like, okay so he's in a.

1247
01:04:48,519 --> 01:04:51,679
Band he's gonna wake up around. NOON i will try

1248
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,280
to call him as soon as he wakes, up which

1249
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,280
will be three am. Here and so every time his

1250
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,320
buddy's got, together he would try to make this phone

1251
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,599
call in every time it just didn't get, through didn't get,

1252
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:04,800
through and then finally one night he makes the phone

1253
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,480
call and woman answers the. Phone the woman who answers

1254
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:12,480
the phone Is Monica. Daneman, okay does that name anything to? You? Nope.

1255
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:17,239
Okay Monica daneman was the one With Jimmy hendrix whenever he.

1256
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,480
Died oh wow what she later got involved in a

1257
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:27,719
relationship With Uli. Roth now she was she was the

1258
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,280
subject of a lot of allegations that she was somehow

1259
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,800
connected To Jimmy hendrix, dying which she fought about a,

1260
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,119
lot and like at some, point like she had been

1261
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:41,920
prohibited from calling somebody a liar for talking about her

1262
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:45,159
being a part of his, death and she did it

1263
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:49,440
again even though she wasn't supposed, to and, like they

1264
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:51,440
filed a lawsuit against, her and, like a couple days,

1265
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:54,159
later they found her dead in a car with like

1266
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,519
carbon monoxide ruled a. Suicide Ulie roth to this day

1267
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,239
says he thinks that there is foul play. Involved but,

1268
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,719
Anyway WARREN. D martini Convinces Monica daneman that he needs

1269
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:11,119
to talk To Uli roth and so lo and Behold.

1270
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:16,360
Uli it's like, hello and he's like, hi and all

1271
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,000
his buddy's like say. Something he says. Something he's, like uh,

1272
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,519
so what kind of picks do you? Use just like

1273
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:24,920
it and he stammers around for a, while but eventually

1274
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,400
he actually like kind of gets out of it and

1275
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,199
he starts talking to him about amps and tubes and

1276
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:33,599
what kind of stuff and like comparing, equipment even though

1277
01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:36,480
he's just this high school kid who's just really learning

1278
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,159
to play the, guitar you, know he's he and he

1279
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,880
talks To Uli. Roth so fast forward ten fifteen years,

1280
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,119
later H uli is playing at The house Of, Blues

1281
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,480
Warren martini Is warren De martini is in, town and he's,

1282
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:54,679
Like i'll give him a, call and then he shows

1283
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:58,480
up to and he's, Like, Uli Warny, Martini i'm sure

1284
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,559
there's no way that you remember. This you were geting

1285
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:03,360
a call from a high school kid in The United

1286
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,679
states back in the. Seventies, Yeah And Uli ross's, like

1287
01:07:07,239 --> 01:07:11,559
who are. You he's, Like Warren warren what D? Martini, oh,

1288
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:13,960
YES i remember. You and so even THOUGH i, MEAN

1289
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:17,400
i guess it's a pretty random experience to. Get imagine

1290
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,079
getting a call from somebody In indonesia at noon and

1291
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:23,960
they want to talk about the, podcast, right like you'd

1292
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,679
remember that fifteen YEARS i definitely was on, right and so,

1293
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,880
yes call. Us Louly roth got a call from a

1294
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,960
young high School WARREN. D, martini that's a great story

1295
01:07:35,079 --> 01:07:37,599
from a from a phone. Number from a phone number

1296
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,159
on their first, album.

1297
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: You, Know warren blew an opportunity to ask him if

1298
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,960
the song was written by THE cia or.

1299
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:48,599
Speaker 3: NOT i was dying to talk about that. Album, yeah

1300
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:53,360
that was twenty something years, later but, yeah that's.

1301
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: Crazy by the, WAY i remember WHEN i was in high,

1302
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,639
school The Van halen Four Unlawful Coronella knowledge album came

1303
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:03,719
out and in the pictures in the answert of THE,

1304
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:07,280
cd there was a telephone number there as, well AND

1305
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,079
i know people were wearing it. Out they had to

1306
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,800
change the, number all, Right so if you're an inspiring

1307
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:15,679
person in a, band don't put your telephone number anywhere

1308
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,159
that can be.

1309
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 3: Found. Hilarious, Okay so that does it FOR. Rat next.

1310
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,520
Week we HAVE docn docin Under lock And key next. Week,

1311
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,319
so like we've talked, about there's a lot of overlap,

1312
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:39,279
here and these bands are also very similar in the

1313
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,800
fact that they have had a ton of infighting that

1314
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,720
led to the demise of the. Band BUT i Think

1315
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,159
docan may Have rat beat in this. Category it's going

1316
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:47,399
to be.

1317
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,199
Speaker 2: AMAZING i Heard don docin. Say the last TIME i

1318
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,479
talked To George, lynch his hands were around my. Neck

1319
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,720
he was trying to choke, Me so be sure to

1320
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,840
tune in for that episode next. Week thank you guys

1321
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,079
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1322
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:03,399
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1323
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,079
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1324
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:10,439
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1327
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,760
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1328
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: Week yie, guys