Speaker 1: Nam Adam Mshwski. Welcoming you to the Shirley You Can't
Be Serious Podcast. Join your hosts Jason and d as
they dive deep into two iconic albums from nineteen eighty five.
Are they hair metal? Are they glam metal? Or are
they heavy metal? Label them what you will. These are
two of my all time favorites. I can't choose a winner,
but perhaps Jason and d can settle the score. So
kick back, relive the memories, and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2: Gosh deed, it's been two weeks since we've been together
in the studio and we come back here. I look around.
We got a rat infestation today.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast, Everybody,
I all your Shirley fans out there. I know that
loving us is a dirty job, but we're glad you're
the ones to do it. Hey, we're gonna go round
and round with rat today it we'll just keep on coming. Okay,
Before we start going, we gotta get a shout out
to our executive producers. We have a couple of new ones. Yeah,
we do it.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of new ones. We've got Omar Gobbi.
We've got Matthew Brent, and we've got Tom.
Speaker 3: Tom, who I'm pretty sure has got to be the
Tom that commented on our Dire Straits episode and gave
us the intel on the naive soundboard. If it's not you, Tom,
thank you to the Tom that joined both of you.
But thank you guys so much. If you want to
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Speaker 2: And I will tell you this. Matthew Brent, Yeah, he's
friends with Dirk Smith.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dirk who came on and did the well
I won't, I won't give it away, but did one
of those special Patreon episodes with you, that's.
Speaker 2: Right, did and Matthew, I guess, bought him a Patreon
subscription as a gift.
Speaker 3: It's the gift that keeps on given Clark.
Speaker 2: And so Matthew has actually helped us like two times
the amount.
Speaker 3: So yes, so thank you. If you want to be
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Surely of the Month Club, do like Matthew did for
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join all the fun that we have.
Speaker 2: You might get invited to be on do a podcast
with us. Yeah, I mean, let's go back to the
Sunset Strip in the early.
Speaker 3: Eighties, the La scene where everything was leather and silicone
implants and cleavage for Miles and.
Speaker 2: Miles, Leezy Babes and dirty rock rifts.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because we've done now multiple bands
from this scene, right, you know, we got We've got
Miley Crue, we got Van Halen, Poison, Poison, I mean,
so many bands that were doing this slle scene, guns
and roses, and it seems like the story is kind
of the same, Like everybody that was there had one
shitty apartment that the whole band lived in, and every
time the show was done, everybody would come back to
that little hole, that rat infested hole and party with
the band until all the sun broke through on the dawn.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the rat Mansion West. We're going to talk about
that today, right, absolutely, So what do we what's our
comparison this week and next week?
Speaker 3: So it's kind of weird because we're kind of comparing
bands that have a lot of incest going on between them. Really,
I mean, like two thirds of this band played for
Docin at some point. It's crazy, and so why not.
They both had big albums in nineteen eighty five. We're
going to compare Invasion of Your Privacy to doc and
under Lock and Key. Under Lock and Key, it's gonna
be great, man.
Speaker 2: These are crunchy, pop friendly rock riffs that are a
bit grimy, you know, yeah, And it's gonna be fun
to kind of get down and dirty with these.
Speaker 3: So, just for all of our audience out there, I
was not super familiar with either one of these albums.
This album we're covering today, Rat, I at least know
the hits that came off of this album Docin. I
got nothing. I have no source, no frame of reference,
and so sometimes that can be a bad thing. Like Rambo,
you missed the moment, yeah I did. But then when
we did the Cult, I absolutely loved that album. Had
never heard that album before, and at this point I
still haven't heard under Lock and Key. I don't know
if I'm going to like it or not, but I'm
ready to go. And for Rat, I got to listen
to the whole album instead of just the hits, and
so I'm excited to talk about it. See how we got.
Speaker 2: Here, Well, before we dive into it, you touched on
something there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We did talk about the cult last summer and we
matched it up with Great White, who was another dirty,
grimy LA band.
Speaker 3: For that's right.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Rat Invasion of your privacy.
Speaker 3: Here we go. Track one, You're in love, So right
out of the gate, I'm getting some really heavy Eddie
van Halen Ain't talking about love vibes going on from
this one. Love the strong, full punchy guitar, dut d
d d da du du du du. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you can definitely feel the Van Halen influence.
I don't think they would shy away from that at all.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it was there. It was their inspiration
for moving to LA like this. This was a San
Diego band initially, and they were doing great on the
San Diego scene and then Steven Piercy and Robin Crosby
decided to go up to LA and listen to this
band called Van Halen, And I mean they're they're still
playing in the Troubadour back then. But he said they
were playing as though they were playing for an arena
full of people, like huge speakers, David Lee Roth jumping
off of the speakers. I mean it was they said,
we got to get up here and do that too.
Speaker 2: Van Halen, one of the most influential bands of all time,
basically gave birth to all these hair bantl bands from
the La Strip.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the video for your in Love?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I have no.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to show this to you because the
introduction clip is so funny because it has a familiar face.
Let me know when you recognize this character who's very
prominent eighties person.
Speaker 1: Are you in love with him and not with me?
I guess I am Jones.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna marry him? Wait a minute, I can
have a list proposing from mass Okay, you really mean that.
Speaker 4: You haven't asked me anything yet.
Speaker 3: I wonder if I said the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: You recognize that guy? Yes, mister Reagan, mister Ronald Reagan.
That comes from a movie that I've seen. I've seen
two movies listed.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: That intro clip where he's like, are you saying you're
in love with him and not with me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Could be from a movie called Santa Fe Trail from
nineteen forty.
Speaker 3: Or from Brother Rat Uh well, thirty eight gotcha.
Speaker 2: Pretty interesting, see good old Ronnie.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean right at the height of the
Reagan era too. Yeah, nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: Man, So I don't know if you've heard the story
behind this particular song lay on me. Okay. So the
producer for this album is a guy named bo Hill.
Bowhill produced Out of the Cellar, which came out the
prior year. Out of the Cellar has wanted man lack
of communication. I mean, their biggest song, their signature song,
Round and Round. Right, So Bowhill was brought back in
as producer. Now, they didn't really get along so well
with him.
Speaker 3: He was he ran a tight ship and this is
not a tight ship kind of band.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I heard him talk about that.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about Warren D. Martini in his youth.
I mean he's twenty twenty one or so when this
album comes out, Yeah, join the band at eighteen Yeah,
basically overnight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Bowhill was like, you know, he knew what the
budget was. He said, Warren kind of had this image
that he had a suitcase full of cash and then
whatever he didn't spend he gets to keep. He's like, no,
I just like kept track of the receipts and like
they would reimburse, you know, the Rat corporation. He's like,
they had it all wrong, but they all it was
always concerned about budget.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But Doug Morris was the president of Atlantic Records, okay,
and bo Hill was kind of his friend, kind of
his go to guy, and was really good at keeping
bands on track and on budget. And he said that
when he called after they had kind of put all
these songs out, Doug Morris was like, so, what song
do you think should be the lead track? Bo Hill
was like, it's clear, it's lay It Down. It's the
best song on the album. And Doug Morris goes, I
think it's going to be You're in Love, and he said.
Bo Hill was like devastated. He's like, we got to
come out with our best foot forward on this one.
And Doug said, you're overruled, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing, I can't find any evidence
that that was actually the case. Bo Hill was recalling
this story, but I think that lay It Down was
the first video really.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so It's interesting. You know, we text each
other and call each other as we're preparing for these episodes,
and you were telling me about bow Hill, and you
were like, here's this with this band called Shanghai, and
you give me the story about you know, had they
had one album and it didn't sotle. It didn't sell
any right.
Speaker 2: He said it sold exactly zero copies.
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I've I know, I've heard
of Shanghai the Band before. Somehow it's come up in
the last six years of searching music. Shanghai the Band
has come up before. And so just a few minutes
after our phone conversation, I sent you a text and
bow Hill was the keyboardist that came in and took
over when they changed the band's name to Shanghai. But
he took over for someone named Holly Knight, who we've
talked about a million, ga jillion time because she's written
so many incredible hits, lots of pop hits. Oh absolutely,
Milli Vanilly blame it on the Rain, among many others. Yeah,
but oh yes. So I was like, I knew I'd
heard Shanghai before. So he was keyboardist for them, but
he had also already started producing at this point and
obviously a good producer. All of these songs have a
similar sound, and that I would call the Bowhill sound.
But talking about Warren D. Martini, like when they first
got together and started the recording process, he had had
he had no idea about how different things were, and
he couldn't find the right sound for his guitar. And
the sound for the guitar is huge, like you can't
just only be a great player, which he absolutely is,
I mean, unsung guitar god, guitar guy. And how is
he not more talked about. I mean with a name
like D Martini, that's a fantastic name. Yeah it is,
I do you know? But anyway, he was he you know,
he comes in and they've got these Marshall half stacks
that are huge, ready to go, but it doesn't sound right,
and he's like, you know, I just wish it could
kind of sound like my practice amp at home. And
he's like, well, bring it over and he's like, you
could do that. You could just put the practice amp
in the recording studio. He's like yeah, So they literally
take the amp for the practice amp and they hook
it to the speakers the larger cabinet speakers that they're using,
and that's how you find his signature sound on all
these albums.
Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. You know, I heard Bohill tell
his story. So Bo was constantly at odds with the
guys in rat, Right.
Speaker 3: He said, first of.
Speaker 2: All, every one of them thought they were great songwriters,
and so they would bring in all these songs and everybody,
of course one of their two or three songs on
the album, well, Bo had to kind of make the
list and say these are our best, these are not
going to make it. These are going to make it.
And so he said, at all times, at least two
of the guys, two of the five were just over
the top pissed at him all the time, one hundred
percent of the time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But he also would get in trouble because he said
one time they left they had to take a break
to go on tour, like they's got this opportunity to
go to Japan and tour. And so he's left working
with the track and he's mixing and he's like, gosh,
I really need Warren to play another decord. And he's
like he looked over and he's like there's Warren's.
Speaker 3: Guitar and I'm here.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not a great guitar player, but I
can play a decord.
Speaker 3: You could play a dcord, right, So he's like so
he went up.
Speaker 2: I was like oh, And then they were like, you
dared to play his stuff on the out and so
they were just like always mad at him for something.
I did watch this video in the era of hair
bands and you know, showing babes and you know, showing
rock and you know, I mean, you're struck by lightning
is one of the lyrics in this, right, you only
live to have fun. They're they're they're advertising their brand
of fun.
Speaker 3: Rock here, right.
Speaker 2: Gabauchery, yeah, oh my gosh, debauchery. Yes, But in the
video there's a girl holding up a sign says eat meat,
I'm cheese.
Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with here. Is this the one
where like Robin Crosby pulls off a bra or something
that somebody has thrown at him. Probably probably in this video.
Speaker 2: So you've got the Ronald Reagan clip at the beginning,
You've got a clip featuring Betty Boop, Buster Keaton, Mickey Rooney,
Frank Sinatra, Lucy like I love Lucy Bob Hope. And
then you have the kind of infamous clip from e
T where Elliott is like and Erica Alaniac are like,
he's getting ready to kiss her and he's releasing the
frogs and he's learning how to like you know what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: That is watching the Romantic movie and it's getting translated
to Elliott at the school.
Speaker 2: Yes, that clip is in this video.
Speaker 3: So either this was an absolute licensing nightmare or they
just use all that stuff without permission. And I'm going
with probably option number two.
Speaker 2: It's possible. Yeah, And of course at the very end, yeah,
you have a clip between Groucho Marx and a smoking
hot Marilyn Monroe when she's still a redhead the.
Speaker 3: Little Norma Jean Playboy days. That will not be the
last time that Playboy comes up in this episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I love this song. What a great
song to kick off.
Speaker 3: With a great opening track. Yeah, I agree. I don't
know that it's the first single you release, but it
is definitely a fantastic opening track. Next song, yeahlet's do it.
Speaker 2: Next song on the album is called never Use Love.
Speaker 3: Okay, another fantastic killer Crunchy guitar opening. The great thing
about this is that you really get to hear the
two guitars going of Robin Crosby and Warren D. Martini
at the same time, you know, kind of answering each
other back and forth with this. Now, you know, we
talked just a bit ago about Robin and Steven really
being the originators of this band, and several of the
band members and we'll talk about it in a minute,
played with other bands, including docin Yes, and ultimately they
get this, they get their lineup together, but their lineup
includes Robin and another guitarist named Jake E. Lee as
the other guitarist, right, Yeah, Now, Jake E Lee was
a little bit older than Warren D. Martini and at
the time that they are that rat is just about
to hit it big, Like they're really just about to
go big. Jake gets this opportunity that you just can't
say no to.
Speaker 2: So he gets an opportunity to replace Randy Rhodes in
Ozzy Osbourne's band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so go back and check out our No More
Tears episode to hear the Randy Rhoades tragedy story. But
obviously Ozzy's in full tilt when that event occurs, and
so he needs a replacement guitarist.
Speaker 2: Right, So Jake E Lee goes and auditions for Ozzie's
band yep. And you know who else is there besides
every other guitar player in town is George Lynch.
Speaker 3: George Lynch, the guitarist for Docin.
Speaker 2: For Docin, and George Lynch said that he really felt
like he did well in the audition, felt like he
killed it. He felt like he was kind of the
leader in the clubhouse. And he said he was standing
there and he was talking to Jakie Lee and they
were just kind of conversing about their audition or whatever,
and he said Ozzie walked right up to him and said,
he turned to Jake E Lee, He's like, do you
want the job?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 2: And Jake said yeah, you know, and He's like, great,
you got it. He's like, you blew it. I kept
on walking, Yeah, he said. George was just like stunned,
embarrassed and devastated. Yeah, and he had to take his
tail and go back to Docin.
Speaker 3: Good old Ozzy man, Yeah, God rest his soul. He
just passed.
Speaker 2: We lost him yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yesterday. Man, that's a tough loss. By the way, yeah.
Speaker 2: I got to tell you the story how Robin Crosby
got into Rat Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Stephen Piercy.
Speaker 2: Had been in multiple bands, right, including I think one
called Fire Doome, one called Crystal Pistol.
Speaker 3: Crystal Pistol, with the pistol spelled like a with a y,
like crystal Crystal pistol, not subtle, right, yep.
Speaker 2: And so so Stephen Piercy's from San Diego, Jakie Lee's
from San Diego. Actually, Warren de martiniz from San Diego. Well,
Robin Crosby's from San Diego.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So Robin had been hanging around. He was a guitar
player and he started bugging Jakie Lee. He's like, hey,
don't you want this to be a two guitar band guy?
And Jake's like, dude, I think I can handle it.
And he just persisted, and Robin was like, hey, listen,
you get all the solos, you do whatever. I'll just
stand over here. You tell me what to do, I'll
do it. And so finally Jake felt bad for him.
It's like, all right, Robin, you can come in, but
you got to do what I say. And he said
as soon as Robin joined the band. He's like, okay,
now which solo? Am I getting on this too? And
just used his leverage to get in there.
Speaker 3: And he's six', five built like a brick, house, massive
like a football, player with a. Guitar so hard to
say no to this.
Speaker 2: Guy, Yes and while we're, THERE i, mean do you
know who his high school sweetheart?
Speaker 3: Was, well she's involved in several of these songs and.
Albums it's Miss Tawny.
Speaker 2: Katine This Tawny kataine back again after we covered her
extensively during Our White snake.
Speaker 3: Episodes oh, There god rest her. Soul but, So Jake
ely is the lead guitarist who's now sharing lead guitar
With Robin. Crosby and one of the band names Was Mickey,
Ratt Micky Ratt Mickey mouse if you missed the connection.
There But Steven piercy wanted something more punchy and taking
the cue From, kiss he just took just the rat
all capitol, letters double letters at the. End you know
it styled it that. Way. Yep But jake E lee
gets the job to take over For Randy rhoades For. Ozzy,
okay so they need another guitarist and they need another guitarist,
fast and So JAKE E lee, says you need to
Call WARREN. D martini and they're, like isn't he still
in high school and he's, like, no he graduated last.
Year he just started junior, college, Right so he's living
with his, mom going to junior. College and they call
him up and they're, Like, warren how'd you like to
come play guitar for? Us and he's, like, okay let
me think about. IT i BET i can come next
semester as soon As i'm done with my. CLASSES i
figure out a wait a. Whit they're like, no, no, no, no,
Tonight like we have a show in one. Week we
need you here. Tonight and he's, like, GUYS i don't
even have a place to. Live they're, like you can
live With. Jake he has got some time before he.
Leaves you can live with. Him you can learn the
songs with. Him and he's, like can you give me ten.
Minutes they're like, okay, dude and he hangs up the
phone and his mom is at the grocery. Store by
the time mom gets, home she encounters him with all
of his guitar gear packed into his tiny little car
and she's, like where are you. Going it's LIKE i
got invited to join this rock band you've never heard. Of, Sorry,
mom rock and roll, CALLS i gotta. Go she's, LIKE
i don't think that's a good. Idea and he's, like,
OKAY i see you. Later that is. Awesome so he
goes up there and he lives like a tiny little,
apartment lives With Jake E. Lee and he said they
would just sit there playing guitar, together but like you,
Know Jake ee would teach him some, stuff they would
trade some, riffs they would work on their own. Songs
and he, SAYS i can remember sitting with my back in.
It we're both sitting on the. Floor my back is
to the, couch his back is to the, couch And
i'm playing the beginning of what would Become round And
round and he's playing the beginning of what would Become
bark at The. MOON i mean, imagine he's, like you,
know you just have no idea as an eighteen and
whatever twenty year old couple of guys that these little
riffs that you're playing without the. AMP i, mean they're
just you don't want to bug the, neighbors just playing
electric guitar without the, amp and it becomes two of
the biggest songs of the mid, eighties no doubt about.
It that's.
Speaker 2: Incredible the same little crappy little. Apartment, yeah that's that's.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah by the, way do you know anything About Mickey? Ratt,
no here's WHAT i know about. IT i don't know
a lot about. It but apparently it was a comic, strip,
okay that looked Like Mickey mouse's you, know, estranged.
Speaker 3: Like A crumb style down on his luck?
Speaker 2: Brother yeah, right, yeah who would who would do drugs
and nail other?
Speaker 3: Girls you?
Speaker 2: Know and it was just kind of this irreverent take
On Mickey. Mouse and Then Stephen piercy just thought it was.
Hilarious by the, way the author Of Mickey, ratt a
guy Named Robert, armstrong coined a term that we use
all the time in every day. Vernacular, yeah you know
what you call a fat person who lays around and
doesn't do anything but WATCH.
Speaker 3: Tv couch. Potato couch.
Speaker 2: Potato he coined that, Term Robert.
Speaker 3: Armstrong, fantastic and he was affiliated With Robert, crumb like
they did stuff. Together Robert crumb had all of those
kind OF x rated cartoons back in the seventies and,
stuff and so it makes total sense that there you,
go there you, go there you. Go all.
Speaker 2: Right SO i don't know if you know this or.
Not warren De martini was one of the guys who
was actually In docin for a. Moment oh, yeah you,
know Like George lynch auditions For ozzie he. Leaves he
did call just like we need a guitar player and Warn.
Dee martini is, like, WELL i can help.
Speaker 3: Out mm.
Speaker 2: Hmm so he stepped Into docin for a brief time.
Speaker 3: A couple of. Days, yeah, yeah, okay these bands are
super or. Linked, yeah all.
Speaker 2: Right were ready to hit the next one on the.
Speaker 3: Tape it's a song you've all been waiting. For my,
gosh track number, three lay it.
Speaker 4: Down see this song is, Incredible it's.
Speaker 2: Fantastic this is a truly special. SONG i think It's
rat's best. Song oh, wow number one over round and
round and way, Cool, Junior i'm taking this one nice
by number one draft.
Speaker 3: PICK i wouldn't argue with. YOU i, MEAN i think
it's a fantastic.
Speaker 2: Song it was on My best of eighty, five Our
top five of eighty five that we did right a
few months.
Speaker 3: Ago, well, YES i learned a little, something go back
and check that episode. Out but the kid From Jurassic
park is a younger. KID i guess he's nearly ten years,
younger so he'd been like five, baby you, know looks,
creepy looks like creepier Than Wednesday. Adams, creepy those big bug. Eyes,
yeah it's like, dark dark circles around his. Eyes and
he's actually wearing an actual tuxedo for his birthday and
there's a creepy clown and then he's making a birthday
wish and it ends up he's he is seeing into
the future where HE'S i Guess Stephen, piercy and the
cute little five year old girl next to him is
now The playboy playmate that is on the cover of the.
Album Miss Marianne. Gravett so you sent me a video
where she's talking With David, letterman AND i wouldn't describe
her as particularly, verbal but she doesn't need to.
Speaker 2: Be she does not have to. Be she could just
shut up and walk down the street and stop. Traffic. Literally,
yes she told a story On letterman that this guy
was driving next to her trying to kind of wave her,
down and she was, like what's this guy doing bugging?
Me and he rear into the car in front of
him because he wasn't. Looking he was staring at, her
and then the guy behind him was looking at her,
too and then he smashed into the guy who smashed
into the car cause they pile up because she is
that good.
Speaker 3: Looking, yeah so SHE i went to Her wikipedia. Page
she has been in no less than twenty editions Of
playboy twenty and that does not Include Playboy, international which
the list is as long as my. Arm and, yes
she is, stunning stunning. SHOWSTOPPER i love. That he's, like
what do you get for doing? This And she's, like,
WELL i got a portion nine twenty eight AND i
got one hundred thousand? Dollars And i'm, like WOULD i
have gotten naked in nineteen eighty five for a portion
and one hundred thousand? Dollars sign me? Up? YEAH i
what Have? Heck, yeah let's go Have? October was it eighty?
Three was that the?
Speaker 2: Year she was Play made of The year for eighty
three and was Miss october eighty?
Speaker 3: TWO i think? Right And David letterman asked, her isn't
the saying uncomfortable in this, Position.
Speaker 2: Dave dave's gone the centerbold open looking at it with,
Her she's just, like, yeah what's.
Speaker 3: Up she's, LIKE i didn't pick that.
Speaker 2: POST i was trying to gather some information on her
because she really hasn't been any movies or.
Speaker 3: ANYTHING i don't really not that.
Speaker 2: Much not much on. Her since, THEN i read a
lot of comments about how she might be the best
looking woman ever featured in the pages Of playboy, magazine
and that is saying.
Speaker 3: Something, yeah she's very good.
Speaker 2: Looking she's also on the cover of this. Album, yes that's.
Speaker 3: Her, yeah she's in the video and she is the
one taking off the lingerie on the cover of this.
Speaker 2: Album, Now, yep by the, way this, Song warren De
martini had been working just kind of on the bus
and just kind of around on.
Speaker 3: TOUR.
Speaker 2: Yep demoed it In hawaii and when he played it
for both the band and Bow, Hill bohill is, like that's,
it that's our.
Speaker 3: Single that is.
Speaker 2: It and he said that when they were in the,
Studio warren was a perfectionist with the, guitar and he
said he played the solo for the first, time so
not only do you have this, killer incredible hit. Song
he played the, solo which is, amazing but he'll was,
like that's, it, dude we have one.
Speaker 3: Take that's.
Speaker 2: It And Warren dean is Like Warren. Dibert he's, like, no, no, NO
i can do it. BETTER i can do it. Better
and he did it like five or six more. Times
first one he just nailed right out of the.
Speaker 3: Gate.
Speaker 2: YEAH i love this. SONG i think it's one of
the best songs of nineteen eighty. Five by the, Way
i'm gonna give a shout out to my, coworker Mister Mike.
Carmon when he was in high. School he told me
that there's a part Where steve And piercy kind of
whispers to he whispered in the. Video he's actually whispering
in her. Ear he, SAYS i know you only want.
Romance he, Says i'll give you all THAT i. Can
but apparently at my friend's high school this heard lyrics
of all all THAT I. Can great, song love.
Speaker 3: It, yeah. Fantastic so this one hit number, forty.
Speaker 2: Right this was their second and last top forty.
Speaker 1: Hit.
Speaker 3: Right i'm surprised that Way Cool junior didn't hit the
top forty me, too BUT i think it was time,
wise maybe too late to the. SHOW i hate to
leave this one too.
Speaker 2: Early but next song the album is called Give It. All,
okay another great, song. FANTASTIC i, mean it's kind of
like AC. Dc if you like one, song you're gonna
like all of.
Speaker 3: Them it's just crunchy. Rock that literally is the exact
thought THAT i had go through my head WHEN i
hit song number four on this When i'm, LIKE i
feel like this is back In, black where all of
the songs are kicking my butt in the exact same. Way,
yeah for, sure.
Speaker 2: Okay D one of the lyrics and Give It all
is quote she came behind and then showed me her,
Thighs AND i gotta think this is straight From Police
academy Where mahoney's behind the girl and he's, like come,
on come, on show me the.
Speaker 3: Thighs what's your, Name Dadad?
Speaker 2: Thompson?
Speaker 3: Soon do you live around?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: No? Soon what's your telephone?
Speaker 1: Number?
Speaker 3: Thompson come, On i's front telephone number six, seven. Sir,
okay let's see the. Thighs come, on come, ON i
haven't got all day the. Thighs what in the hell
are you? Doing meeting. Women, SIR i cannot believe that
you just Quoted Police. Academy that is a that is
a shirly. Movie we have to. Cover, bravo, Sir.
Speaker 2: Bravo you, know they really pushed. Back they didn't do
a lot of power. BALLADS i mean almost. None, yeah
in an era where a power ballad would sell a
couple of million albums for. You, Yeah now we're going
to talk about a song here in just a, minute
AND i think might fill that, role, Okay but they
resisted that.
Speaker 3: Urge so they you, know they came up To la
and we're very quickly doing well in The la club
scene on The Sunset. Strip they're playing The, troubador they're
playing The. Whiskey they're getting all of those shows in
and we're very. Popular they were selling places, out but
they weren't getting, signed like so many other bands of
that time and that place were getting, signed and they.
Weren't so they ended up they had a guy who, recognized,
hey this is a band who's really good and they're
all really good, looking AND i THINK i can make
something of. Them and this guy's name Was Marshall. Burrow
now we've talked about him. Before remember when we talked about.
Him i'll give you a. Hint he discovered a band
whose debut album came out in nineteen seventy, eight and
he was their Manager Van.
Speaker 2: Halen you got.
Speaker 3: It that's.
Speaker 2: Right he Brought Warner brothers To Van.
Speaker 3: Halen that is. Correct now correct me If i'm.
Speaker 2: Wrong but he also may have had a hand in
discovering The Beach.
Speaker 3: Boys, OH i don't know about.
Speaker 2: That you don't know.
Speaker 3: That, no here you.
Speaker 2: Go you ready for?
Speaker 3: This HERE i go for.
Speaker 2: It Marshall burrow began his career at The William Morris
agency and in nineteen sixty two Signed The Beach boys
to a long term agency, contract representing them from the
start of their career through nineteen sixty. Five Brian wilson
was twenty years old WHEN i met, him along with
his brothers and Father Murray.
Speaker 3: Wilson. Wow, wow talk about a guy who should have
A wikipedia. Page, right that's. Nuts the signs the agency
agreement for The Beach, boys discovers Van, halen then discovers.
Speaker 2: Rat he also had a hand IN. CCR i Believe
Greden's Clearwater revival.
Speaker 3: Fantastic so he produces some of their stuff on his
independent label Called Timecoast. Music. Now they had a single
on that Called You Think You're? Tough? Yes have you
seen the album cover for? THAT i. Have it's got
a pair of women's legs with rats climbing up and down. Them.
Yep do you know whose legs they? Are it would
be Miss Tawny? Katine you got? It did we mention
already that she was the girlfriend Of Robin crosby like
high school, sweethearts AND i remember seeing interviews with her
well past The White snake days where she was like
he was my one true, love like she absolutely adored.
Speaker 2: Him she was tearing up while talking about.
Speaker 3: Him, okay but You Think You're tough wasn't actually their
first single to get on a? Record do you know about?
Speaker 2: THIS i want to say their first which, one maybe you?
Have been Called Doctor, Rock.
Speaker 3: Tell The, World tell The. World Same in nineteen eighty,
two same year That Warren De martini joins the, band
they get on the compilation album Called Metal, massacre which
we've talked about. Before, wow, okay and it's the first,
One Medical massacre. One there's been a bunch of them since.
Then they were all unsigned, bands, right that's the whole
album is unsigned. Bands So rat is on there with
the song tell The, world and last song on the
album is by a band you might have heard of Called,
metallica who was so unknown at that point that they
misspelled their name the first time they Pressed Metal Massacre part, ONE.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you my Lead A ford.
Speaker 3: Story, okay, yeah tell me.
Speaker 2: So obviously at this time the, record you, Know Motley
crue has blown. Up, OKAY i mean not blown, up
but good and. Big people are looking for the Next Motley. Crue,
Well rat's kind of in that, succession, right looking for
the Next motley Cru Here's, rat but yet they remain.
Unsigned Stephen pearcy's, LIKE i don't really understand. It we're,
good we can, play and we've got great. Songs they
just remained, unsigned, Right and now they've Got Marshall burrow
who's managing. Them he had a office at The. Whiskey
they had become the house band for The, whiskey and
so now they're working in. Tandem, well he sets up
this concert where it's gonna Be rat And Leada. Ford,
Okay and at the Time Leda ford she had been
the guitarist for The.
Speaker 3: Runaways, Right, okay so she was actually a name Cherry.
Speaker 2: Bomb, Right so this Was july twenty, seventh nineteen eighty. Three,
Well leita was upset that she was going to be
the first band like the opener for Rat.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Okay she felt, Like i'm a bigger, name they should
open for, me and so she kind of staged a
protest by not showing up on. Time and so they're
like waiting and waiting because she's their, opener and they're.
Speaker 3: Like it's forty five, minute it's. Late when's she gonna show?
Speaker 2: Up and they finally get to the point where they're, like,
well screw, her we're going.
Speaker 3: On so they take the.
Speaker 2: Stage, well at the, time there were people there From
atlantic ready to.
Speaker 3: Sign this was the this was the make or break
show for them at The Beverly. Wiltshire that's, right this is.
Yeah so they they'd been unsigned for so long they've
just felt like this is our last. Hurrah if we
don't get signed on this, one we're not going. Anywhere
so they blow the doors.
Speaker 2: Off lida shows up in the middle of their show
and they're, like we're not. Tough we're on. Stage good,
luck you.
Speaker 3: Know if anybody sticks around AFTER i guess that's.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah and the president Of, Atlantic Doug, morris comes
up to him afterwards and, says how'd you like to
be With?
Speaker 3: Atlantic he was sitting With Marshall burrow at the table
and it was UNTIL i mean they'd gone through several,
songs but when they started playing round and, round he was,
like sign them, done all?
Speaker 2: Right next song on the, Album this song is Called
closer To My, heart.
Speaker 3: To me The way That You. Are, Okay, well when
hair metal bands say it's time for the rock, ballad
they either pull out the piano or the twelve string,
guitar And i'm guessing this is the one you're referring
to with the. Ballad this is the slowest song on
the on the album as AS i can. Tell and
you Got Robin crosby playing a beautiful twelve string guitar
for the intro and kind of mix in with this. Song,
YEAH i love the.
Speaker 2: SONG i think this one could have been a major
hit if they had just released. It, yeah with that,
video you, know you think about the road video with
guys looking out the window and.
Speaker 3: You're black and. White, yeah you have them boozing it
up up and being sad and then. Girls, yeah, exactly
them hanging the lingerie in the bus that oh, yeah
That Marshall BURROW i heard him talking. About he was,
like they started collecting things from every town that they went,
to and by things he meant lingerie and sex, toys
which they hung off of the roof of the tour.
Bus at some, Point Bobby blotzer gets on the bus
and he's, like it smells like a bard And Marshall
burrow was, like, oh the stink was. Funky.
Speaker 2: YEAH i Heard Stephen percy say that it got crabbed.
Out they had to fumigate the.
Speaker 3: Bus don't sit, there don't use a bathroom on the.
Bus oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh the.
Speaker 3: Life of a rock. Star. Yeah so After atlantic offers
them a, deal they immediately get into the studio and
start recording out of The. Cellar fantastic album.
Speaker 2: It Is and who is That Tony Katanah you can't
see it from here.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yes Tawny Katine robin's. Girlfriend she's on the album
cover and she's in the first video Called back For.
More it's like her and a little girlfriend in a
little sock hoop and then she goes to the jukebox
and puts the record, on which goes doesn't fit, right
and finally plops down and back for more starts. Playing
now you've got some great cameos in this. One obviously
you Got Tawny. Katine, yes you Got Marshall, burrow because
a few minutes later it's it seems like it's the
same two, girls but they're dressed, differently but they seem
to be schmoozing it up with some old. Businessman Marshall
burrell is the old, businessman, okay, Okay and then a
little bit later, on just kind of a foreshadowing of
what will come With round And. Round at the end
of the, video there's a guy in a motorcycle who
like races into the club that they're playing at and
wrecks the, motorcycle and when he takes the helmet, off
It's Milton, burrell who Is Marshall burrow's. Uncle famed actor
comedian dud Did Uncle milty where he would dress in
drag and stuff like. That but he's wrecked the motorcycle
and he's missing his two front teeth from the. Wreck
but there's one more cameo on. It they get they're
all piled in a car the, Girls like a couple
of the members of the band come and steal the
girls out of the sockhopp or, whatever and they're riding
around in this convertible car while they get arrested for
not paying the bill at the. Diner and when they
get pulled, over there are two cops and when they
take their helmet, off they get this long. Hair you
know who the two cops, Are, No nikky six And Tommy.
Lee really, Yes so there's always this talk of like
a feud between these two, bands BUT i think the were,
buddies like they would hang out and do blow and
girls together and you. Know and, yeah so they've freechered
in their first.
Speaker 2: Video, WELL i mean you talk about that in nineteen eighty.
Two this is After Motley crue has made their first
album nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Two this is Pre Shout out The.
Speaker 2: Devil, Robin, Steven nicky And tommy almost formed their own.
Speaker 3: Band oh, Wow.
Speaker 2: And if that, happens it goes a different. Direction it's
the what IFFs here are?
Speaker 3: Incredible. Yeah, well and then the another what if is
That robin breaks up With Tawny Katine in nineteen eighty,
four we don't have The jaguar, dance we don't have
the seductive looks driving down the.
Speaker 2: Highway maybe that Impacts White snake's.
Speaker 3: Career go check out Our White snake Episode, fantastic which
we compare Two Molly. Crue that's, Right Joe's. Girls that
was a lot of. Fun all.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i do have one story for you On Stephen.
Speaker 3: Pearcy, yeah go for.
Speaker 2: It So Stephen piercy growing up, rambunctious kind of trouble.
Maker but all he was interested in is like.
Speaker 3: Racing he wanted to be a top fuel Ration do
you know what those? Are, Okay so you know In
parenthood The Keanu reeves where he's like the drag like
the drag car that's gonna be super. Long that's What
that's What Robin pierce he wanted to. Do he wanted
to be one of those drag racer with the LIKE i,
mean they accelerate faster than any other cars in the.
Speaker 2: World, Okay so he wanted to race. Cars, yeah and
had zero interest in. Music. Okay, well he's riding his
bike one day and gets hit by a car and
the car breaks his.
Speaker 3: Leg he's in the.
Speaker 2: Hospital he's laying in the hospital with broken leg and
a friend brings in an acoustic guitar and he's, like,
Well i'm just laying, here might as well learn to play.
GUITAR i guess, Yeah and that is where it takes.
Off nineteen seventy. Four he's laying there in the hospital
bed starts strumming on that.
Speaker 3: Guitar the first, show somebody said break a, leg and he,
SAID i already. DID i just made that.
Speaker 2: Up hits up on your tape, player kick it, out
flip it over for side, two and we begin side
two with the song Called between The.
Speaker 3: Eyes so say what you will About Mike rino Or Mark,
knopfler there's only one guy who did the headband, right
and that Was Stephen. Piercy he nailed. IT i, mean
he looks like a, pirate, right he's got. It but
he's got this long flowy. Thing he's got his long
hair flowing over the other, side and he's wearing the frilly.
SHIRTS i, mean he looks like he could be, uh
he could be playing the lead and. Billy BUT i
mean it's just he's killing. It you.
Speaker 2: Know that was an intentional choice by. Them they talked
about how they would go to, concerts they see a
bunch of, guys but they're, like, hey we want, girls you.
Know and so they became what they called fashion rock fashion,
rock and even like on their early flyers it says
rat fashion.
Speaker 3: Rock what does that? Mean that means we're wearing tight
black leather, Pants that's what that.
Speaker 2: Means and a cool. Headband, so you, know just to
kind of backtrack a little, bit when we talk about
The out of The cellar, album one of the songs
from that album is a song called lack Of. Communication,
now that song was written at the last minute When bohill's, like,
hey we need another. One you, know we need another, one,
Right and So Jan, crusier who's the bass player who
had been in docking at one, point he comes up
with a song called lack Of. Communication AND i thought
this was kind of telling him of how the band was.
Run so he knocks out this. Song well it's a,
hit like it goes on to become a. Hit but
when he gets in the, Studio stephen is like totally
reworking the lyrics And one's, like, dude that's not HOW
i wrote, it and that's it doesn't even make sense
what you're, saying And steven, says, look, Dude i'm the.
Singer i've got to be able to sell these, lyrics
so sit over there and shut. Up And one's, like,
well at least make it make, sense you, know let's
work on. It he, Says stephen went up to him
and took the lyrics and tore them in his. Face one,
said was that moment THAT i KNEW i was going
to have trouble with this?
Speaker 3: Guy, yeah so it's interesting you talk about. That you,
know we need one more. Song so after they did
Their japan, Tour WARREN. D martini gets home and he
gets a call LIKE i, mean he's just walked in the,
door like off the plane in the door and he
gets a call from FROM Duezl zappa and he's, like, hey,
dude love your. Stuff would you like to come over and?
Play and he's a Huge Frank zappa, Fan WARREN. D
martiniz and so he's like, yeah, Sure like what? When
what day you want to? Do and he's like can
you just come over right? Now and he's, like, now, okay, yeah,
NOW i Mean i've just been on a plane for
seventeen hours after A WorldWind, tour but, sure, right and
he was absolutely, exhausted But frank was, there And frank
would later go on to say that his favorite contemporary
guitar guitarist Is Warrendy MARTINIZ. Whoa SO i Mean Frank
zappa is telling saying he's the. Best that's pretty freaking.
Incredible but while they're, there they're playing guitar, together which
you would, expect, Right dweezl And, warren and Then frank
comes in and he's he Shows warren this kind of
neat it's basically like a warm up, scale like a
warm up finger pattern to, do and So, warren you,
know adopts, it begins to play, it and then he's,
LIKE i feel Like i'd use this in a. Song
and so on their fourth album they switch producers because
they didn't like Bo, hill right, right so they went
With Mike, stone who would work With. Queen so you
know it pretty good, shot, Right. Yeah, well apparently like
when the when the guy From atlantic listened to the,
record he Called bohill and he's, like, HEY i just
got the dad on, this and he's, like, OH i
do sound sounds like they're a hotel. Band it's, awful,
Right and so they go back to Bow. Hill, Now
Mike stone had heard this song That warren De martini
had put this scale that he had learned From Frank zappa,
in and he's, like, eh put that. Away we don't
really know that it's not gonna be that. Good and
so they go to Bow, hill they remix the, album
they get everything, together and again it's that we need
one more, song and so he's, like, WELL i got
this song That mike SAID i should put in the,
box but if we don't have, one we don't have.
One and he's, like, yeah play it for, me and
he plays in the song and he's, like what's that.
Called he's, LIKE i was thinking something Like Way Cool.
Junior so if you listen To Way Cool, Junior i'll
pull that up real.
Speaker 2: Quick, yeah how about?
Speaker 3: That isn't that? Crazy that's. Fantastic so that little lick
is Something Frank zappa Taught Warrendy martiniz before they were ever,
anybody and he just incorporated it into their fourth.
Speaker 2: Album that's, fantastic and to, Me Way Cole junior is
absolutely one of their best top three.
Speaker 3: Songs it's, fantastic and that little riff makes an otherwise
just kind of standard blues song into something very. SPECIAL
i got something for you on that. Song.
Speaker 2: Okay so at the very beginning you have this clickity.
Speaker 3: Click clickick click click. Click.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Bow, HILL i was, like this song needs something.
ELSE i need, something needs. Something so he turned to
his second ENGINEERING'S i go to the drug, store give
me ten. Thimbles and when he came, back he put
the thimbles on his fingers and he said it was
on a hard, surface and it's, like lick get. It
that's Bow hill playing thimbles on a.
Speaker 3: Table. Fantastic SO i love.
Speaker 2: It Wakele. Jr great, Song, yeah. Okay next song on
the album is a song called What You Give Is
What You? Get. Okay this is one of the strongest
songs on the. ALBUM i think this is like next
tier Under you're In love And lay It.
Speaker 3: Down it's got a great use of the phrase what
you give is what you? Get. YEAH i mean taking
that and making a song that works is a tough
sell and they did a great job With.
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's. UNDERRATED i don't hear it a,
lot but it's a good. SONG i think at this
point we need to talk About Robin.
Speaker 3: Crosby, Okay Robin, Crosby so when he was a, kid
his dad was a chemistry teacher until he was about
eight years, old and then his dad gets asked to
be a photographer to illustrate the book Called The call To.
California and it was Like california commit was commissioning this, book,
yeah and it was commemorating The california By. Centennial and
so his, Dad HARRY. W, crosby got a pack mule
and followed the root of The Portola expedition of seventeen
sixty nine to make photographs to illustrate this. Book and
it WAS i mean he went six hundred miles on
a pack mule. On, yes he was on the back
of a. Mule, wow six hundred miles to illustrate this.
Book and he ended up doing like he did like
four more, books the last of, which oddly you just
run into these, things was published by The university Of
Oklahoma press back in like nineteen ninety four or. Something
he just passed away last year at the age of ninety,
eight obviously significantly outlived his, son who has an incredibly tragic.
Speaker 2: Story So Robin, crosby as we've, said six foot, FIVE i,
mean built like a linebacker or like a powerheading third.
Baseman grew up playing. Baseball it was a big baseball,
player fell in love with the, guitar and of course
Grabbed Tony contain and shot for the moon right and
over the. Time you, know they called him. King he
was their. Leader Bo hill, said he was the glue
to the. Band he was the. One when Bo hill
was finishing up the, mixing you guys can leave the
studio as long AS i can call whoever and they
can be ready to come in and help me with the, mixing,
said they always Called robin Because robin's the most level,
headed most easy, going the most reasonable person to work. With,
well later, on at like The reach for The Sky
Tourjan crusier starts noticing he's like man who keeps throwing
up in our dressing room, Bathroom, like what the heck
is going on? Here, yeah well nobody knew because he
hid it so. Well But Robin crosby had a very
serious heroin. Addiction yeah that was getting out of.
Speaker 3: Control, YEAH i mean and got out of.
Speaker 2: Control he said he had a five hundred dollars a day, habit.
Speaker 3: Which you can sustain if you're topping the, charts but
they weren't always topping the, charts and so ULTIMATELY i
led to him losing all of his. Money, YEAH i
heard him talking about this and he, said telling me
to stop heroin was like telling me to stop. Breathing,
yeah like it's not easy to. Do when he got
kicked out of the, band he went to. Rehab when
it came, back he tried to join the band and they're, like,
okay well let's see what you, got and he couldn't. Play,
yeah and what led to him getting kicked out the
first Time they were struggling to regain their footing that
they had. Lost did a show In, japan AND i,
mean it's this. Simple he grabbed the wrong. Guitar like,
guitarists you, know like how much difference can it? Make,
well the difference is you will tune it, Differently like
sometimes you have a, song you're just going to tune
the guitar a half step or a full step. Down,
well he grabs the wrong guitar for a, song which
means he's trying to play it in a key half
a step different than everyone else in the band is playing,
it and it just sounds it's just nails against the.
Chalkboard it's it's The jaws theme to make you feel, uncomfortable,
RIGHT i, mean it's just at some point every member
of the band was looking at him because he just
didn't even realize he was the only one who didn't
know every member of the audience was looking at, him
and they're just, like this is just not good. Work
so they kicked him.
Speaker 2: Out try to come, back like he got out of.
Rehab really we're kind of hoping that he could regain.
It you, know he wanted a chance to redeem, himself
but he couldn't. Play and So Stephen pearcey's, like he.
Speaker 3: Can't it's not.
Speaker 2: Happening, Yeah and so he lost his, fame he lost his,
band he lost his.
Speaker 3: Fortune lost his. Wife he lost his, wife by the,
way he did, okay After Tawny, katange he. Did he
married what was her, Name Lori Carr Y carr nineteen eighty,
seven who was the year before Play mad of The
month In december nineteen eighty. Six.
Speaker 2: Yeah and if you're wondering If i've ever seen her,
before if you have These slaughter, albums stick it to.
You she is the one on the COVER.
Speaker 3: I was hoping to blow your mind that little, tidbit
and you already knew. It good job when it comes to,
PLAYMATES i know my.
Speaker 2: Stuff so he lost, everything and on top of, that
he CONTRACTED, hiv, yeah which became full BLOWN.
Speaker 3: AIDS i, mean it was reported that he had died
OF aids when he passed in two thousand and two
at only forty two years. Old AND i Remember nicky
six talking about it in The Heroin diaries about just
how devastating all of that. Was but it was NOT
aids that killed.
Speaker 2: Him he took one last mega booster shot Of.
Speaker 3: Heroin, yeah he's gonna die doing the thing he go
out and loved more than anything else in the, world.
Speaker 2: By the, way you, know In Heroin, Diaries dicky six
gave him a shot and, said, look you come with,
me you live with, me you live, clean and you
can stay.
Speaker 3: Here and he couldn't couldn't do, it and he had
to kick him.
Speaker 2: Out we're talking about he had to borrow dollars from these,
guys you, know like he would Beg Juan, crucier just
give me twenty. Dollars it soars on his, FEET i,
mean just. Terrible it lived in a. Shack just the
worst of the. Worst, yeah by the, WAY i for
a happier. STORY i sent you a little trivia note.
Yesterday name the soundtrack that included contributions From, Elton, John Jeff,
Beck Robin, crosby, LIKE i don't really Know Young Guns
too soundtrack That john Bon Jovi blaze The.
Speaker 3: Glory.
Speaker 2: Wow Robin crosby played on that.
Speaker 3: Album nice. Well rat had Bon jovi open for them
in this, tour didn't they The invasion Of privacy?
Speaker 2: Tour?
Speaker 3: Right, yes Bon jovi one year Before slippery when we came.
Speaker 2: Out this is the seventy eight hundred degrees Fair nheit Bon.
Speaker 3: Jovi, yeah that's, Crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay next song on the, ALBUM, yep song called Got
me on The.
Speaker 3: Line. Hello they're. Consistent.
Speaker 2: Yep it's a pump and rocker like the first.
Speaker 3: One you're gonna like this, one that's.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i don't think this one is particularly, special but
It's rat.
Speaker 3: Right it's it's got the same. Sound if you love the,
sound you're gonna love. It to, me it. Is if
there's a filler song on this, one it's probably the.
SONG i agree with.
Speaker 2: That, yeah you, KNOW i wanted to talk to you
just for a. Moment we've kind of we haven't really
got to their signature song as, much the Song round
And round blew up in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Four Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah one of the cool things about that was the
music video that you have this rock band and basically
they're invading a dinner party and they're coming through the
ceiling and through the, walls and you have all these you,
know uppity people who are trying to have a dinner.
Speaker 3: Party well it's Stars. Milton Milton burrell Is Uncle milty
and is doing the drag.
Speaker 2: Thing he plays the, husband he plays the, wife and
the guys had a great time with him during this
filming of this, video and they said they would ask
him tons of questions about the old. Days And Stephen pearcy,
said the only THING i wanted to know Is, milton
did you Nail Marilyn?
Speaker 3: Monroe he, said of, course of COURSE i, did because
they thoughtless hilarious but the interesting.
Speaker 2: Thing so that became heavy rotation AND mtv sold a
ton of albums for. Them funny, video but great song as.
Well you still hear it on the radio. Today when
they went in the studio to record out of The.
Cellar everybody was dead, broke like zero income on their
tax returns when they returned from The out of The cellar,
tour one point two million dollars what each of them.
Speaker 3: Were worth each. Each pretty.
Speaker 2: Impressive they went from having absolutely nothing to being filthy.
Speaker 3: Rich i'll tell you WHAT i love about that. SONG i,
MEAN i love the whole. Song it's. Fantastic it's it's
got staying, power it's here, candy all of that. Stuff
but the solo that they have in that, song it's
both of them playing at the same time like there's
it's like the end Of Hotel, california Where Don felder
And Joe walsh are like back and, forth but then
also at the very end playing riffs that are on
top of each. Other and it's absolutely absolutely. Fantastic, yeah love.
Speaker 2: It, okay next song on the album song Called You
Should Know By. Now, okay another kind of filler song for.
Speaker 3: Me, YEAH i do want to, mention you, know like
to be a fantastic, band especially a fantastic hair metal,
band you have to have a drummer who really drives
through the, show like bang The gong's, hard. BABY i,
mean he's got to hit. Hard he's got to be,
good he's got to be great at his. Fills And
Bobby blotzer does all of that like he's kind of
the guy in the back that you don't think about that,
much but he really is an incredible. DRUMMER i SAW
i think you may have sent it to Me Don
docin talking about how he, was you, know at his.
House he and the band that he had at the,
time who he, HAD i think it, was what was, it?
Airplay Airborn? Airborne, right had Been airborne for a, while
and then another band Became airborne and they couldn't do that,
anymore so just called It docin as just kind of a,
placeholder right, Right it's like it rhymes with. Rockin you,
know we'll figure out something else later. On but, anyway
when there's still no, buddies just playing at somebody's, house
he said they would do it for forty five minutes
and then they stop because the cops would show. Up
and then they would wait forty five minutes and they
play for another forty five minutes before the cops showed up.
Again you just timed it. Right you didn't get into much.
Trouble but he says one day they're playing in their
set and the pizza delivery guy comes and he's, like,
oh you guys. Playing he's like, yeah he, GOES i play.
Drums he's, like have a, seat, man let's, see let's
se what you can. Do he gets in plays next
week he's with the, band and that pizza delivery guy
Was Bobby. Blotzer So Bobby blotzer is In docin With
Juan crucier who's playing the, bass, Right and as you,
Mentioned Warrendy martini was a part of the. Band so
that's that's three out of the five members of the. Band,
yep AND i, BET i Bet Stephen pearcy And Robin
crosby probably hung out and played with Doc in a
little bit at some. Point oh of, course, yeah.
Speaker 2: Of, course it's pretty. Amazing you. Know i've got a
little tidbit for. YOU i don't know if you know
this fact or, not But rat came out with all
these crunchy. Rockers but they also had a couple of
songs on. Soundtracks now one we neither one of these we've,
covered BUT i wondered if maybe next year's the year
for one of. These so they had a song called
Body talk On The Golden. Child, okay remember The Golden
child With Eddie.
Speaker 3: MURPHY i, do, YEAH i keep.
Speaker 2: Going, Okay so body talk familiar? SONG i bet you've heard, it.
Okay and then they had a song Called Nobody rides For,
free maybe their last truly great song h off of
The Point break.
Speaker 3: Soundtrack ah, yes, okay, yeah, Nice, no that's a good.
ONE i Love Point. Break So i've told stories about
every member of the band now except for, One. Crucier,
yeah All i've got on. Him and this is actually
kind of. Impressive he played With Quiet riot as their
basis right Before Randy, road like With Randy, rhoads Before
Randy rhoads left to go play With Ozzy. Osbourne so
take that story full circle from what we learned before
About JAKE E lee and.
Speaker 2: Me we've talked About, Docin we've talked ABOUT, Rat we've
talked About. Ozzy we've talked About Quiet. Riot Mark torrian
From Bullet boys was IN. RAT i think for.
Speaker 3: A, MOMENT i have got A Jimmy Hendrick scorpions connection
that's gonna blow your. Mind That i'll tell you on
the next.
Speaker 2: Song oh, okay well let's get to it, Then, okay
last song on the. Album this song is Called dangerous
But worth The. Risk, okay guess which song opened every
concert on The invasion Of Your privacy?
Speaker 3: Tour is It dangerous But worth the? Risk dangers but
worth the? Risk it's it's a great song to check
the sound levels. With, HONESTLY i, MEAN i know that
they do that before every show. Anyway but, like you've
got such a deep bass on the guitar on this.
ONE i haven't looked it, up BUT i wouldn't be
surprised if it was a drop tuning. Somehow but, THAT i,
mean it's very, deep full fat bass sound for the.
Guitar love.
Speaker 2: IT i think this should have been the title for the.
Album oh it Could invasion Of Your. Privacy we're, like
what does that?
Speaker 3: Mean you AND i both like we didn't really come
up with. Anything not really. Good dangers but worth the.
Risk that's a great, ONE i.
Speaker 2: Think so tell me the. Story i'm dying.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: Okay so scorpions first, Album Lonesome Crow, okay, okay came
out nineteen seventy, two, right all, Right, Yeah so the
story goes on like the first pressing of the, album you,
know the first when they had they released so many of.
Them in the liner notes in kind of the small,
print they had a phone number on. There oh, cool
and and it's, like, oh is this the phone number
to the, publisher the production, company the, studio what it?
Is you? Know and so these kids In San diego
notice it's the kids that might have been. ADULTS i
don't know they noticed this phone. Number but It's german
and this is this is the seventies, eighties like twelve
dollars a, minute right, Exactly like it's, nuts like it's
ridiculous you could not. Call and so but they're just,
like you know, what they were squatting in a house
that somebody else was paying the phone, bill like it
was some you, know some rich place where they had
just left the phone on to go vacation and. Wherever,
right and they're squatting in this. House and so they
decide to try to call this, number thinking they're going
to get the. Studio rudy shankkar answers the. Phone what no.
Way they Put Rudy Shank carr's phone number on the
on the, album, right and so the guy just bs
Is rudy shankar are for like ten? Minutes you know
and is try and convince him that he has got
this invention that he has that will change the way
the guitar has, played and he really Needs Uli roth's phone,
number and after ten, Minutes Rudy shankar's, like all, right,
yeah here's the phone number and gives Him Uli roth's phone. Numbers, okay.
Yeah so fast forward a few, Years WARREN. D martini
is in high school with his buddies and they've got
this story and he's, like, whatever this is not, real
and they're, like Here's Uhli roth's phone, number and so
he tries it and it never goes through and he's,
like what AM i? Thinking I'm i'm In. La he's In.
Germany there's a total time difference. Here so he like
does the math and he's, like, okay so he's in a.
Band he's gonna wake up around. NOON i will try
to call him as soon as he wakes, up which
will be three am. Here and so every time his
buddy's got, together he would try to make this phone
call in every time it just didn't get, through didn't get,
through and then finally one night he makes the phone
call and woman answers the. Phone the woman who answers
the phone Is Monica. Daneman, okay does that name anything to? You? Nope.
Okay Monica daneman was the one With Jimmy hendrix whenever he.
Died oh wow what she later got involved in a
relationship With Uli. Roth now she was she was the
subject of a lot of allegations that she was somehow
connected To Jimmy hendrix, dying which she fought about a,
lot and like at some, point like she had been
prohibited from calling somebody a liar for talking about her
being a part of his, death and she did it
again even though she wasn't supposed, to and, like they
filed a lawsuit against, her and, like a couple days,
later they found her dead in a car with like
carbon monoxide ruled a. Suicide Ulie roth to this day
says he thinks that there is foul play. Involved but,
Anyway WARREN. D martini Convinces Monica daneman that he needs
to talk To Uli roth and so lo and Behold.
Uli it's like, hello and he's like, hi and all
his buddy's like say. Something he says. Something he's, like uh,
so what kind of picks do you? Use just like
it and he stammers around for a, while but eventually
he actually like kind of gets out of it and
he starts talking to him about amps and tubes and
what kind of stuff and like comparing, equipment even though
he's just this high school kid who's just really learning
to play the, guitar you, know he's he and he
talks To Uli. Roth so fast forward ten fifteen years,
later H uli is playing at The house Of, Blues
Warren martini Is warren De martini is in, town and he's,
Like i'll give him a, call and then he shows
up to and he's, Like, Uli Warny, Martini i'm sure
there's no way that you remember. This you were geting
a call from a high school kid in The United
states back in the. Seventies, Yeah And Uli ross's, like
who are. You he's, Like Warren warren what D? Martini, oh,
YES i remember. You and so even THOUGH i, MEAN
i guess it's a pretty random experience to. Get imagine
getting a call from somebody In indonesia at noon and
they want to talk about the, podcast, right like you'd
remember that fifteen YEARS i definitely was on, right and so,
yes call. Us Louly roth got a call from a
young high School WARREN. D, martini that's a great story
from a from a phone. Number from a phone number
on their first, album.
Speaker 2: You, Know warren blew an opportunity to ask him if
the song was written by THE cia or.
Speaker 3: NOT i was dying to talk about that. Album, yeah
that was twenty something years, later but, yeah that's.
Speaker 2: Crazy by the, WAY i remember WHEN i was in high,
school The Van halen Four Unlawful Coronella knowledge album came
out and in the pictures in the answert of THE,
cd there was a telephone number there as, well AND
i know people were wearing it. Out they had to
change the, number all, Right so if you're an inspiring
person in a, band don't put your telephone number anywhere
that can be.
Speaker 3: Found. Hilarious, Okay so that does it FOR. Rat next.
Week we HAVE docn docin Under lock And key next. Week,
so like we've talked, about there's a lot of overlap,
here and these bands are also very similar in the
fact that they have had a ton of infighting that
led to the demise of the. Band BUT i Think
docan may Have rat beat in this. Category it's going
to be.
Speaker 2: AMAZING i Heard don docin. Say the last TIME i
talked To George, lynch his hands were around my. Neck
he was trying to choke, Me so be sure to
tune in for that episode next. Week thank you guys
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