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Gee Rahm, it's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pun on,
Thanks for telling a friend. The fiber Doctor of Rochester's here.
Ma Connery's West Side representative is here, everybody's all said
after the Big Saint Patrick's day. Is Jamison a ginger
just like fiber I've been doing all day? Yeah? No,
Jamison ginger is Actually I like it a lot. I
all didn't have ginger beer. I took a picture of it,
and Saturday said I ordered a Greg Cotters and I
sent to Greg. Oh that's funny. That is that's pretty funny.
Here's a question, at what point do we stop calling
it busy and start calling it the early onset of something.
Because I have had like just the craziest things over
the weekend, searching for my keys, ripping the place apart,
like rearranging everything. Can't find I can't They're in my
pants pocket that I'm wearing. Oh, your dad left you
some dementia. I'm like, oh my god. And then I
ordered a bunch of stuff and new things for the
studio and stuff, and it says that it was delivered right,
So I'm like, oh great. I get home and there's
a package. But it's not that package. It's a different package.
So then I'm like, huh, and I go back and
I look and I'm looking at the photo and I go,
they delivered it to the wrong place. Could they have
delivered it to my old house? And then somehow I
catch it. I send it to my nephew in Virginia.
So did the wind get it? Because I know the
wind got the neighbor's package in today. No, they couldn't
find it. No, so uh And I wind up call
my sister and I'm like, she goes, yeah, I was
wondering why uh he got a package. She goes, I
didn't open it, and I go, well, here's what's in it?
And I tell her and it was including like light
bulbs and stuff that I needed for here in batteries
and pseudo.
Speaker 3: Fa I go, oh my god, And then uh.
Speaker 1: Has anybody done this? Can't find my phone? Can't find
I have been losing my phone, like there's so much
stuff and I'm trying to get out the door that
I realized when I get in the car that I've
forgotten my phone. I run back in and now I
can't find it. Now I'm yelling for Jamison to call
my phone so I can find my fucking phone. Just
keep calling it, you know, you know what I mean,
until I find her a text?
Speaker 4: Have you plaate towed with the adderall?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't think so, I
have no idea.
Speaker 3: That's how drugs are designed to work, Billy. They get
you so far well and then you need more.
Speaker 1: All right, I know what it is? What's you stop
drinking as much as much? Maybe a drinking diet. I
just haven't been drinking as much. Good, and your brain's
fucked up? Now? Yeah, well a little bit.
Speaker 3: No, I mean we've you and I watched a guy
dry out once for a while.
Speaker 4: You did for a while too. Yeah, you didn't lose
your mind over it, no, it actually felt clearer.
Speaker 1: And then hang on, so here's another one you ready for?
This guy was going to go to us to this one.
I uh, I had Instacart. I ordered instacart, so I'm
just well, I just didn't have time, and I don't
do it a lot because it does get it is
more expensive, but it just at that point, it's the
trade off, right for money. I'm so busy with my
red flash. Okay, all right, maybe so I ordered bananas,
like a bunch of bananas. What comes is one banana
in a produce bag, one fucking banana, and then I'm
going at banana seven dollars? So I'm going, I go,
is it me? So, I'm says to Jamison. He's like,
it's probably you because everything else was fine on the order.
Everything else is fine. One banana, And I'm like, sure,
what does your kid work at Wegmans? Why don't you
just give him the list?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: He wasn't there a the time out.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes the let's be honest, sometimes the instacart
workers or the Walmart shoppers are incompetent. Okay, but my
wife can't get an order correct, Okay, Like it's like
it's like taking a test.
Speaker 4: She gets ninety seven's ninety four.
Speaker 1: Not her, but the people she's assigned, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll get they won't get a hundred. They'll get
like a ninety seven or ninety four, but passing in
this case a hundred.
Speaker 1: But I always say look for patterns. My keys are
in my pants pocket. Okay, banana, I can't backing on
my phone. And I had a package that I needed
shipped to my nephew.
Speaker 3: So you went through your phone and you accidental shipped
because the shipping address was probably the same as it
was the last time.
Speaker 4: I know it wasn't because I had ship shipped to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did. I really don't know
that thumbs that could be. And I'm like, is it stress?
Is it cognitive overload? You got a lot going on?
Or is it just like you know, you're like your
brain has forty seven tabs open and you can't get
anything wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you haven't turn your computer on.
Speaker 1: What a quantity in for the bananas? Is that? Maybe
you just I don't know.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I thought you just clicked the bunch want a picture
of a bunch? So I clicked the little square by
it nana one banana? I go, who the fuck orders
one banana? I was doing twenty minutes in my living
room going on about what a fuck it? And then
I go, wait a second, this could really be a
me thing? I have no idea. Got a lot going on, Bill,
I'm gonna look it out, and you just sload it. Well, well, okay,
are men worse slowing down? Because I'll tell you what.
Like Keaven's home and and Kevin does do it a lot?
Huh what's a home? All right? All right, Well Kevin
does a lot. Kevin handles the grocery shopping, and Kevin's
carting those kids around.
Speaker 4: But I know it's the grocer is getting home, that's
the question.
Speaker 1: That's why're getting okay. So but then Kevin, I that's
the things like your wife does a lot. You know,
I even I, well, I I don't know. Nothing humbles
you faster than you're tearing your house apart like it's
a fucking crime scene, only to realize the suspect right
in your own pants.
Speaker 4: So about a week ago, so you didn't get into.
Speaker 1: The car to start your car? Oh I did? Oh?
Then I ran out? Oh no no, oh oh yeah,
oh no, that got worse. I was giving you the
abbreviated how did you not start the car with him
in your pocket? I thought they were okay, So I
thought maybe I got out of the car in a
rush and left the keys in there, not you know,
just could have been. So that's why there's starting. Then
I'm thinking I dropped the keys. They fell between a seat.
I'm ripping floor mats up. I'm looking everywhere because it's
one of those you know, uh keyless starts. I know
it was there, and and when I got out and
I'm running back and forth, I somehow my hand brushes
against and I go, oh, my gosh. I mean I
was flinging stuff looking for these because I was so pissed.
I knock over a cup of coffee that spills everywhere.
It's like, holy Hurricane Moran. You know.
Speaker 4: About a week ago, I was kind of dealing with
something similar.
Speaker 3: And I've been watching this show called Memory of a
Killer on Fox and one of the character, the main character,
basically is starting to have early on set. Alzheimer's his brother, Yeah,
who's also a don't go somewhere, stay with me, Stay
with me, billy.
Speaker 1: I don't like this go on.
Speaker 3: His brother is already there, and his brother was also
a contract killer, and to protect his brother, he blamed
some things on somebody else and they took that guy out.
Speaker 1: Now he's got the issue. So now with my OCD. Mind. Yes,
about a week or two ago.
Speaker 3: I'm screwing up like you are, and I'm going, okay,
do I have early onset Alzheimer's?
Speaker 4: So you know what I did? I went online and
took an Alzheimer's test.
Speaker 1: And forgot he did it.
Speaker 4: I got a hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: But the point is is that, like sometimes we get
so busy and things pile up, and you know, women
like my wife are great at details.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I am the macro, she's micro. I am great at
big picture stuff.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to the deets, like my wife,
like when I told you we were in Austin, Texas,
and she's walking me around like a seeing I dog. No, no,
don't cross, stop stop okay, right now we could cross?
No stop go go like you know, because why I'm like, ah,
what Vince Young steakhouse?
Speaker 1: Oh look this?
Speaker 5: Look?
Speaker 1: Oh I saw Kevin nodding? What did you find out
about bananas? Bananas are sold by the each unless you
select organic banana bunch.
Speaker 4: Sold by the eat. But I didn't get to eat.
Speaker 1: I clicked what did you want? Like, okay, this is Wegmans? Okay,
this Wegmans. I didn't. I did. Okay, I'll look look
at look at all because they have it.
Speaker 4: It's the car for Aldi. Well, I can afford that.
It's it's usually all the if you're going to Aldi,
It's like, okay, i'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you what. I'll tell you. This is just it
the metal one. Yeah, and it says right under it,
fifteen cents each. Well, I'll be dipped and ship. I
fucked it up. I didn't read the fine print.
Speaker 3: And well, that's the thing though, Like when I'm a
shopping on Amazon too, Like, okay, I bought my wife
some cordless battle ropes and she goes, did you get
the one with the weights? I go, they had that option.
She goes, yeah, you didn't see that. That's the one
I picked out. I go, no, you thought you picked
up the gray one.
Speaker 1: Look, she goes, no, there's and there's a button to
tell you how many you want at the bottom.
Speaker 3: Before he had had the cart, I have to remind
myself I'm paying attention to the details.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what it is. So when
I ordered all this stuff, I was not at home.
I ordered this up through Amazon. I was not at home,
and I was trying to squeeze it in. I know,
right exactly. And then what I did was I instacarted
before early in the morning, at like six point thirty
to have it delivered that afternoon. And I was flying
through that to try to get my kid out the door.
And I know it sounds bad, but you're right, like
women do this shit, And I go, is it dad, brain? No,
I'm a parent, grad student. We do the podcast. You're
trying to all all things around the podcast. I'm barely
a human. I don't know if I'm like you could
go over stimulated or underdisciplined. And right now between that
little bit both yeah, no, I'm saying under disciplined. I'm
told that double check.
Speaker 3: Women are great at connecting the dots. Men just see
the dots, I guess, and then just.
Speaker 4: I'll take the dots when I when I get to them. Well,
women could go like.
Speaker 1: In order and know drinking mar the fog is cleared. No,
you were able to see through the fog, and now
you can't. This is true, it's too clear. But let
me ask you this, Daniel, is this like the Buffalo
Bills probably running too many running plays and all of
a sudden, Josh Allen just starts going fucking on freelancing.
Speaker 4: Like you get he got bored, Yeah, and he's like
screw it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen freelances most of the plays anyway.
He's like that jazz musician, you know. But uh yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 1: But it's fucked up because you go, we have more tech.
We have more technology than NASA had in nineteen sixty nine.
Right hand, right right here, right in our hand, in
your hand right now. And why am I dumber? I
got a keyless car that I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Acting like an AI is making people dumber too, because
now AI is doing the work that you were supposed
to do.
Speaker 4: It's now those neurons in your brain are being exercised.
Speaker 1: My god, you're fucked so fuck which is weird.
Speaker 3: Because you're going to school right now and learning prescription
and so I would think that that brain's getting exercised
all the time, plus Jamison, plus all the other stuff
going on on your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm sending packages across state lines one banana
like a minimal less NYE. I think an't used to
having that Ginnis in there, and you don't have it
in there, you're right on the tank. Well, are we
so outsourced so used to outsourcing? You bring up AI right?
Are we so used to being outsourced with stuff that
we just don't pay attention to double check? That's clearly
what I said. Oh yeah, now that I'm sitting here
talking to you guys, that's that's what I did. We're
outsourced and on demand, but I like trust the system,
blindly trust the process.
Speaker 3: We need it now, we want it now. I've gotta
be now and then like I need you to do
it for me now. But it's we're not doing it ourselves.
We don't want to slow cook anything. We want to
throw it in the damn microwave or the air fryar
and have it done ten seconds.
Speaker 1: I just because I go the banana thing like pissed
me off vers something. Have you ever seen anybody just
order one banana? But if I'm shopping for somebody and
I got one banana, I'm not questioning it. I go, Okay,
they just wants this weekend two bananas because he was
making protein something or others. Yeah, and it just hadash.
My aunt her gross for this a couple weeks ago
was three bananas. Yeah. Look before I web MD myself
like Dan does, and start taking now cyrus test. I
passed by the way. I might need an a fewer responsibilities,
but I mean it could be stress, lack of sleep,
a little bit of how many hours you get in
a night. I'm probably somewhere between five and six.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something I know.
Speaker 1: I know, doctor Dan.
Speaker 3: The one thing that if you believe in evolution, yes,
the one thing that we have never evolved out of
is sleep.
Speaker 1: No, I know.
Speaker 3: And people say eight hours of sleep is a myth.
That's not true. Everybody's different. But what you really need
is at least to get a fit. Bit said, and
you at least need an hour and fifteen minutes of
deep sleep and an hour and of rem sleep. Okay,
if you're not getting those, that's why some people need longer,
some people need less. Whenever you get to those levels,
then you know your body's rested. I could go ten
hours and not get the full compliment of one of
the other. Sometimes it's just the way. It depends on
what you did the day before, what your diet was
the day before.
Speaker 1: But you gotta get we have evolved, but from having
to take a nap to those years where you didn't
want to take a nap to now where my shoulder are,
where we sleep all fucking.
Speaker 4: Day, I know, but like five or six hours, Billy
ain't gonna help you.
Speaker 1: No, I know, period.
Speaker 4: That's what you're not getting where you need. You're like
an old radio mode.
Speaker 1: Yes I am.
Speaker 4: And you walking around in a fog all.
Speaker 1: Day that's not I'm not walking well, I mean clearly right,
I mean something because I'm not drink heavier pass out.
I'm the devil angel and he's the angel and alcohol.
Speaker 3: Alcohol kills your sleep, by the way, I know alcohol well,
it destroys your HRV levels.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, Dan. I'll tell you what I had.
I think a total of eight beers throughout the weekend.
No Friday night. I did not Friday any last night,
but I think I had. I know I had like
four totals Saturday over time and maybe four total Sunday,
which is still a lot. You didn't drink at the
surprise party that I said Friday night Nday Friday night?
As you went from one party to another, did you not?
Is not my second one? I did not go to
the second party. What party was I going to go to?
Do you were going to go to the one that
my son might have been at because his friend is there.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, h No, I did not go.
I was gonna tell my kid to look for you.
Speaker 4: Well, what parties were going on this weekend?
Speaker 1: Somebody was having their annual St. Patrick's Sleay party that
they haven't done in a number of years, and they
were bringing it back, and I was going to go,
but I was having too good of a time where
I was and it just worked out better that way
that that was all you get home? Or did you
end up here? Nope, I I wasn't see. That's the
thing is, like, I wasn't that bad even there. I
may have only had like maybe four I don't know.
I don't know, because I ate and we were shooting
the ship a lot, and I did have a water
in there, so I didn't really count that night. I
cant of the other nights on purpose, on purpose because
I just didn't want to go down that hole, which
I have, you know, in the past, But I know,
I don't know. I I'm not losing my mind then,
That's what I'm starting to think. I'm a little burned
out and I'm a little.
Speaker 4: That's all it is over time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people who are losing their minds don't know
they're losing their minds. Uh, that's also part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, well here's kind of where as we're talking.
Speaker 3: You get to the point where you have seven hundred
posted notes on your desk, you've got a problem.
Speaker 1: Here's where I landed. When I do that. If you've
never torn your house apart like it's a fucking crime
scene looking for something that's already on your body, you're
either lying or you're not doing enough in your life.
That's the way I look at it, because how many
people I've known, people who anybody see my glasses. Anybody
see my glasses, they're at the top of the head. Yeah,
they're right on the top of the head. So you know,
I don't think I'm losing my mind. I think my
mind is just you know, finally complaint and said you
got to slow down for a second. I think I
got my shit together because I've never had to do
that with your glasses or my phone or my keys.
Speaker 4: Jesus See, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: For you underwear right now and then.
Speaker 3: But my buddy's got got a little rug that he
puts out his doorstep. Yeah, and it says wallet keys
watch or wallet keys phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so he knows. Okay, yeah, I know,
And I don't want to be doing that. I'm wallet key.
But it is one of these things where I have
my phone with me in the morning, right, but I'm
carrying it around. I'm checking whether I'm watching ESPN on
my phone. I'm doing all this stuff. And then and
then that happened. By the way, what's going on with
Max Crosby. Is he back with the Raiders?
Speaker 4: Yeh, And I saw something with I thought there was
a trade to the Patriots, was I was?
Speaker 1: The rumor was that Tom Brady was not going to
trade him to the Patriots. Really, that was before he
went to the Ravens for twenty five minutes. Yeah, and
then and and yeah, okay, it's still not well. The
story was that the owner was like two weeks ago,
that didn't pass the physical right, right, that's a But the.
Speaker 3: Thing is everybody knew that he wouldn't, that he had surgery,
and so there was there was nothing under you know,
everything was above board. They knew the surgery, they knew
everything else, and it was all of a sudden. They
find out on the Monday of the tampering period, which
I hate calling it, that that nobody wants Trey Hendrickson
for the price that he wants. So his price came down. Hey,
we could get our picks back and we could just
sign Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 4: Not worry about Max Crosby.
Speaker 3: And so he's in the building and the GM can't
look at him. The owner is avoiding him, that coach
is avoiding him.
Speaker 1: My god, how fucking awkward.
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's not like he was a
free agent. They traded for him.
Speaker 1: So he's just he's reporting for work and they're like, well,
they're supposed to show he and his wife around. I
think his wife was there and this weekend.
Speaker 3: That weekend, he he was supposed to be there a
day earlier, but he had celebrated six years of sobriety
and that was a big deal to him. So I
had a big party. I don't know how you had
a party without, you know, And bibing was a milk
and cookies far but he had. He had a party
six days, six years of sobriety. So he said, I'll
be there on this date and he gets there and
they're all avoiding him. What's the superhabio plague? Sobriety of
what a pill?
Speaker 1: I think alcohol? It was alcohol, Yeah, celebrating sixteen hours
of sobriety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't know what football players if you're like,
like you know the term buffalo sober rig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. But I'm wondering if it was pain pills.
I mean, you can understand an.
Speaker 3: NFL player, though there's no way you're going through a
season without pain pills for the most part, especially if
you're him and not all the surgery.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it was.
Speaker 3: Alcohol, okay, and maybe party drugs, recreational hells uh.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but but yeah, and then but they
did him dirty.
Speaker 1: Not only didn't like molly is what I was thinking, like,
you know, because it's it's fun, it's like euphoric.
Speaker 3: And well, not only did they do him dirty, but
they did the Raiders dirty because then the Raiders have
they want They were planning on using these picks. They
also signed all these free agents with the money they
cleared off the books. Now they had to go back
and reconfigure everything. Yeah, and this is not the first
time the Ravens have pulled something like this.
Speaker 1: It's like remorse. Who hasn't at some point left somewhere
and gone, oh, if I can only get out of this,
I made a bad deal, or like it was more
emotional than intellectual, or what happen.
Speaker 4: Look at half the Bill's draft picks over the last.
Speaker 1: Six years, Jesus did. But what I meant was like,
and here you got a guy highly touted, think it's
a great addition. And then the doctors and a number
of them apparently that we know of, or coming back,
even team doctors for.
Speaker 4: Like Dallas was involved.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the team, the team doctors. A lot of
the teams use the same doctors to look at this stuff.
But it wasn't like they didn't know, you know, all
that stuff before you sign on the deal. The story
is that Trey Hendricks did all of a sudden his
market drop.
Speaker 4: Hey we can get him a lot cheaper. Why give
up all this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, backed out.
Speaker 6: I meanwhile, back at Orchard Park, you know we explored
the market for that. Yeah, sure you did well. Right now,
on paper it looks like good. I'm glad he didn't
get involved in that. On paper, on paper, sure I'm
not well know when.
Speaker 3: They'll tell you what all these guys are on the
wrong side of thirty. Yeah, just draft bettered shut up.
Speaker 1: Wow, well it's it's it's harder to do that. Look you,
how many the guys that we don't think are going
to make it? The Tom Brady's right, they're the ones
that the one, well there's it's not the one, the
one we've got. I mean, look at the forty nine ers.
Their quarterback, he was mister irrelevant. That's true.
Speaker 4: I mean, but those are rare.
Speaker 1: Oh I hear you. But there's a couple of them
and at different positions, and I'm not as familiar as linemen,
and they're always like hey, second round, third.
Speaker 3: Round, Look at the rams. Look at all the guys
that they get in the middle rounds. All of a sudden,
there's stars exactly.
Speaker 1: Because that's like that dead. That's my point. That's my point.
All right, we'll take a moment. Uh, there is a
woman calling herself a beauty patcheant queen. She's rocking a
Tierra the whole deal, and she just pled guilty to
a huge financial deal scam. And I have a lot
of questions about it. Okay, just in terms of what
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Speaker 4: Who's playing this? I know it's not far jam, No,
it is not.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 4: Stand in the fiber fats ain't Tickler's Bridge either.
Speaker 1: I know that stand from the fiber fats, the fiber
logs they have. I got a little scooba, dude, is
that claude stinging pearl?
Speaker 7: Jam?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, Ai, Yeah, I have no idea.
There's a woman out of Sacramento, California, And I said,
she's called herself a beauty pageant queen. She's got a
Sacramento huh in Sacramento? You got it? Now? Wait, this
gets better because that's a good point to bring up.
It's Sacramento, California. But Sacramento's a city a Rochester seven
and Sacramentos a nine. Yeah. Maybe I haven't been to
Sacramento and in a long time I was on the
air in Sacramento for a minute. Who does this woman
just pled guilty to running a ten million dollars ponzi scheme?
Now I don't she created a fake company promised investors
production had for cent return told them she had connections
to some big CEO that was attached to a casino
all smoke real thing. She was using new investor money
to pay old investors allah of the ponzi scheme while
living like a Vegas headliner. This woman had Mercedes Designer everything,
private jets, vacations, and at one point she literally was
hosting potential investors in a Vegas suite, pitching things like
it was, I don't know, Shark Tank meets Miss America
is the only thing I can think of. And when
it started falling apart, she didn't stop. She tried to
launch another company to keep it alive. And she's now
looking up to forty years, which kind of raises this question,
at what point do you realize I'm in too deep?
Was the casino ceo that she was working with. Was
his name Terry Benedett, That was.
Speaker 4: Played by Indy And instead of stopping, you just doubled
down like it cats because not how good looking is
she though? Hang on now, because I'm going somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yes, I got it, But nobody wakes up and says
I'm going to start a ten million dollars ponzi scheme today,
it just doesn't happen. It's one of these things that
slowly builds and then it's like one of the it's
one of these things about you. Suddenly you're trapped. Right first,
it's like one lie, I'll fix it later, and then
it just keeps going from there. The money comes in
so it works, and then the pressure's on I have
to keep this going. And the Vegas Suite, I mean,
that's you go from confidence to like desperation and heels. Now,
this woman is a Filipino American and she was getting
a lot of i'm gonna say Filipino or Asian companies
to buy it, to fuck goddamn immigrants to buy in,
and at some point she stopped being a scammer and
kind of became the employee of this fuck and lie.
You know, well, oh shit, never mind, No, no, there's.
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way, Yes, sir, the investors need
to be ashamed of themselves for not vetting this woman. Well,
I mean the people are the I mean like because
that's what smart Angel investors do, is that they have
people who who actually will vet these people, especially after
what happened with Bertie Madoff.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, dude like that.
Speaker 3: When Madoff was doing his thing, a lot of Wall
Street hedge funds and all that were watching what Madoff
was doing. They're like, this doesn't make sense, but he's
making money, so hey.
Speaker 4: Let's try it.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden they realize, oh crap,
this really is a scam because it's not working for us.
Speaker 4: How come it's working for him? But they never bothered
to test it out.
Speaker 1: But if you're committed to the sorry, you're gonna try
to button your shit up.
Speaker 3: Well in her case, yes, yes, but I mean like,
I mean, like to me, like it goes back to
the idiots that enabled this machine.
Speaker 1: No, I understand. I don't believe that there is any
way for a single person to run a ten million
dollar Ponzi scheme. I may be wrong, but that just
seems she had help, don't you think? But and why
it helps?
Speaker 4: But your beauty?
Speaker 1: But it only of course it does, of course it does.
But I go because and then the other thing is
everybody at some point has felt like they're in too
deep and they don't know how to get out. And
I'm not saying with a Ponzi scheme, I mean with
like a relationship or a job that was supposed to
be temporary. And I really don't like it, but I
you know, it's kind of covered me for now, and
you know they're they're going to promote me. And I
get I become a slave to like, well, slave maybe
a bad word, but no, it's not a bad word.
Speaker 4: We take it too far.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 4: You are now enslaved by whatever you've created.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we get that way.
Speaker 4: And I mean, she got a few guys who you know,
probably you like the attention, you like the attention.
Speaker 1: And this one, but maybe she maybe there was some
banging going on.
Speaker 4: Baby Oh that was quit pro quote.
Speaker 1: I would think that somewhere along the line there had
to be something more given up.
Speaker 4: He's a glorified whore. Possibly. I mean, it doesn't say that,
so I I I. Yeah, we're a podcast.
Speaker 1: We can we can say that, right. But this goes
back to the other day, Danny. We got somebody who
wrote in asking Danny about fiber supplements.
Speaker 3: I heard, okay, by the way, I sent you the
bottle too. No, I know, okay, I don't know if
you want to put it on the website, I should
do that. So people can understand what see, that's my
cognitive brain. He also sent you one of the turds.
Speaker 1: From the fire.
Speaker 4: You can see it's increased in size.
Speaker 1: It works well, it's like a fish.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't float, should go right to.
Speaker 1: The bottle before after No, if you want to shoot,
what did we say that day? What did I say?
What did I say that?
Speaker 4: That makes you?
Speaker 1: I go, there's some guys.
Speaker 3: Guy at the University of Rochester's gone to school for
eight years to become a gastroid testinologist or whatever, gastro
turn or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, or enterologist. Here there you go. And then there's
Danny who's like, no, but why did I say that? People?
What what did I say? You have? People? Do you
have the You have to speak with confidence? There it
is this the same thing with confidence.
Speaker 4: And I'll turn into a million times.
Speaker 1: Absolutely spoke with You might have the picture of the
broad what's her name? I'm gonna look her ut her name? Actually?
You know what, Kevin?
Speaker 4: Do we know do we know somebody who wants dated
her recently?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 1: No, okay, why would we I'm just wondering. I'm just
kiddingus that, okay, uh look up, just circain yes, Sacramento
Ponzi beauty queen, and you'll see and she is.
Speaker 4: She's in the capitol in California where all this stuff happens.
Speaker 1: Like they kind of wink wink about it.
Speaker 3: But you go.
Speaker 4: You have presence, you have confidence.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't show you, like I always said, act
like you've been there, have that confidence. Once you start
getting all it shey and squirmy, uncomfortable, that's when it
all starts to unravel. But if you go in with confidence,
and you go in perfectly ready for anything, then you
can pull it off.
Speaker 3: Marla Dickinson, Yes, Marlt's forty nine. Yeah, dulcet Pino.
Speaker 1: Dulcet Pino. I think that's that sounds like a shitty
dessert wine. That's like something you get out instac cart
at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it's about dulce Pino. That sounds great.
Speaker 1: You just get one glass, one glass. That fucking one
banana thing pisses me off so bad. I was, I go,
who the fuck orders one banana? Then you comes in
and goes, well, my wife only wanted to, I know,
But I've never seen anybody ever in my life like
I would have questioned, maybe I wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: I think I would have questioned it a little.
Speaker 1: Bit like does anybody just order one banana but you
don't know who you're buying? Forts. I guess that's it. Uh,
but she is not attractive at all?
Speaker 3: Well, okay again, but looks look with the pond she's
fishing the no no, no pun intended, No, she's fishing
in PONZI.
Speaker 1: Al right, okay, all right, I didn't mean to do that.
I didn't mean to do that. It it just came
out that way. I'm just saying she'd better looking girls
on math, presence, and confidence.
Speaker 4: She looks like she said, look at her teeth. She's
got the braces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's fine.
Speaker 4: How many adults do we see with braces?
Speaker 1: And queen for doctor Thane Kevin Stanni's buddy.
Speaker 4: But no, here's the thing. She didn't sell investments.
Speaker 1: She sold the feeling. This woman like you got to
wait a couple of years she gets out. Somebody needs
to fucking hire her to sell their business, because clearly
she can do it. But why do we why? Why
not if she gets forty years, she's maybe ninety. Yeah,
that's true too, She's not.
Speaker 3: Gonna get forty years, Tony Roberts. She's always comes back
to power. They're these old men who have the money. Yeah,
and they're at the stage of life where they could
use a little excitement. Here comes some woman with an idea, right,
and they're like, yeah, you know, well we could throw
a few bucks at her, and a few bucks becomes.
Speaker 1: To see more bucks. She's not gonna be She's not
gonna be forty years. There's no way there. She wouldn't
make it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, she first of all, she has the
money to fight the battle.
Speaker 1: Well right, potentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But and in this in this back back uh back
ass word how do you say it?
Speaker 3: Ass backwards state, which is California, She's probably get like
eighteen months.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's not gonna get eighteen months, but I forty
years is like except I wouldn't be surprised if she
got ten maybe right, maybe an out on good behavior.
And by the way, how about even though the minimum security,
they still don't look pleasant to me. I know, we
hear like, you know, white color, camp camp cupcake or
I don't think so. So I just found another article. Yeah,
and Sacramentos a fucking mess. Filipino beauty Queen aka Maria
Dickerson aka Dulca Pino is indicted in California for a
fraudulent investment scheme that victimized fellow Filipinos, including former sexy
actress Rita Magdalena. Do you want to see how fucking
beautiful Rita Magdalena is? Yes, not so much. Which one
is Rita? This one here in the green on the right? Oh,
hello Sacramento. All right, but why did you know the
beauty queen of Stevie and Stevie wonders. I right, But
but still if somebody comes in and they seem to
have their ship together and there and they're poised, and
she got she's just like, what is it? My favorite
thing is well, she's got the risk. But what I'm
gonna say is the understated. You know, it's like the
the quiet luxury, quiet luxury where she's got a dressed
but there's no real tags, but it looks expensive and
it hangs the right way, and it's all this stuff
that we trust confident people instantaneously. Oh we do go
to YouTube everyone instant What was the product that this
ponzi schema is selling cookie dough for this broad I
don't know, what a fuck Meyer. Yeah, I was an
investment into a shell company. I don't even know what
the shell company was.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was Shell.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is okay, maybe it's golden coral braun.
Is confidence more powerful than the truth? Yes, in some
ways I think it is.
Speaker 3: Things about that expression like Liell gets halfway around the
world before the truth is putting its shoes on. It
works in almost every you can apply it almost every instance.
Speaker 4: And this is another instance. Well, this woman had the looks,
she had the charisma, she had the authority.
Speaker 1: We no, according to this audience, yes, I mean she's
talking about Filipino. Men are like, she's an American, she
lives in California. BA what Kevin. I can't even keep
it straight. But but we see this now with with
a certain podcasts influencers. It's all about the confidence. Right,
you watch something you experts online, I'm going to sell
you my course, I did this right, And it's the confidence.
Speaker 4: They're so good at it, they're gonna sell.
Speaker 1: It to you right. And you know, as I'm as
I'm reading this article, I go somewhere there's a guy
making seventy thousand dollars with an advanced finance degree and
this broad comes in and heels in the tr and
bulls off a ten million dollars sponsor. You got, you know,
I kind of in a way, I tip my hat.
I go, that's that's impressive. Impressive. It's kind of like
a free agency dan. You know, a little bit could
be the team.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys, you know, they come off a
great season or a great playoffs, they sign a big contract,
and then all of a sudden, a year later.
Speaker 1: They've been released. Why is that because they're paying?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, First of all, you're always over
paying for a free agent.
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is, right, but it's not
paying for performance. It's paid for the past. It's paying
for belief.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why analytics became a big thing in baseball,
because they're like, don't pay for the past, pay for
the future, and pay as little as you can.
Speaker 1: NFL free age is one just big fucking Ponzi scheme. Well,
in a way, I mean when you think about it,
when you think about it, because you're just buying the
belief that this guy's going to deliver. Hopefully they do.
But how many times have we seen it? It just
doesn't happen. Is it always like when somebody gets their
money they seem to take their foot off the gas
a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh they do it all the time. Sure, Well
even in in baseball.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, how many guys did that and they
just like they just like alert Pooholz was a flop
in Anaheim.
Speaker 1: Oh god, saw one hundred and eighteen years old and Anaheim.
Speaker 4: But he signed that huge, like ten year deal. They're like,
we still gotta pay this dude. Jacoby Elsbury is another one.
I mean, I can go on and on. Vernon Wells
is a big one. But yeah, am I not in
the frame?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're moving, You move around like a fidget toy.
Speaker 4: So but you're going with free agency?
Speaker 1: So where are you going with this? Well? No, all
I was saying is it's it's the same thing. It's
like paying in a belief. It's paying for a belief. Yeah,
and we're paying you on past performance. Yeah, it's paying.
Speaker 3: It's also campaigning too. You're campaigning too, your shand base.
Hey guys, guys, I know we couldn't get Max Crosby
and I know we couldn't sign Trey Hendrickson even though
the market came down on him, he was still more expensive.
Speaker 4: So we gotch you, Bradley Chubb. Now I know he's
had a few ACL tears, but.
Speaker 3: He did play sixteen games last year for the Dolphins,
so it's kind of like the win win, and we
got them at a great rate.
Speaker 4: And the more you talk, the more I gotta try
to believe you.
Speaker 1: But I can't. Right, that's the thing. And I know
I'm stressed looking for my keys. This woman's got investors
in a Vegas suite and the whole thing could collapse
in any second, right, you know, she's tracking millions, managing lies,
dodging withdrawals, and I'm upset because I got one fucking
but that.
Speaker 3: You wan't to hear about a big You want to
hear about a big scheme that's going on right now.
It's you know what's going on.
Speaker 1: With Black Rock? Uh, I don't even want to know.
Speaker 3: Well, multi billion, but like all the others people who
put their money into black they put a cap on
how much money they could withdraw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's just like huh yeah hmm, I know,
nice jab dipshit. What I all I said was, I
know that's all I said, I didn't say anything else
about that. Oh the bottom line, here's what fascinates me
the most about this, because it's easy to look at
this woman and say, how does somebody do that? How
does somebody pull this off? And I'll never be convinced
that you did it alone. It seems impossible to me.
But the better question is how many steps are there
between the normal person where we all in this room
could be right now right and a Vegas suite trs
and ten million dollars. I'm not saying it's one step,
but I'm not saying it's a whole bunch either. If
you come with the confidence, I think you could do
it that And Asians are just great at math.
Speaker 4: Oh I mean yeah, I mean sometimes it's just the
right opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's it's small steps and it's and it's
the confidence where no one's gonna check you. Yes, just
like I didn't check my fucking banana order. I had
no idea you could buy just one banana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody checked Bernie made Off, nobody checked Black Rocks.
Speaker 4: Well, nobody's I checked.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I mean because because they've been well, they've had a
track record of success for years. Yes, Secades, okay, but Black.
Speaker 1: Rocks scares me a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Vanguard State Street, Yeah, they all
scare me.
Speaker 1: Well, but let's not go there.
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. If you, if you put
on the right show, people will buy you. When they
teach you in sales, they're not gonna like the product,
they're gonna like you.
Speaker 1: But but if you do it right, it is now
if you can also deliver the goods, you could write
your ticket anywhere. But it is that confidence, and it
does take. It takes a real confidence. Now I have
to do uh, I have to do a lot of
group stuff in uh graduate school. It might be group therapy, right,
so there's actually a group therapy class and then a
lot of times we have to sit in a circle
as a group in a.
Speaker 4: Class before that, and you do therapy for each other.
Speaker 1: Well, you wind up talking about things, and what you're
really starting to see is a circle. Jerky asked one banana?
Is it just one banana? A matter of fact? And
sometimes it is, and that banana's name is Bill. Sometimes
it ain't. Right.
Speaker 4: Now, I got the blueoo.
Speaker 1: Did you have somebody? Do you have some of your circle?
Wears a masks mask.
Speaker 4: No, okay, no, but the I would have bet for
sure somebody in that class.
Speaker 1: No, but I have seen people who and I don't
know what to think of this since you brought up mask.
But I want to get back to this thing. That's okay.
This is what you do? Uh it is?
Speaker 4: It's like last week was five or this week? Is
I polished?
Speaker 1: You're a d D guy. You're worse than me.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, but it's okay. I would take it
all except my blood pressure, don't.
Speaker 1: Don't.
Speaker 4: I got a doctor's appointment tomorrow.
Speaker 3: My annual physical, so I might ask about a couple
of things.
Speaker 1: Good is looking for a figure out? What did you
just bring up that? Now you threw me all off?
Mask wearing mask wearing?
Speaker 4: Yes? Is it polite? If I have a cold or
getting over a cold and I go into a public place,
you don't want anybody six you.
Speaker 1: I wear a mask. Is that a polite thing? Or
is that? Is that a pussy thing? Because I don't.
I hate the mask, so I'm not doing it. I'm
just saying I have seen that where people are like
just getting over a cold. Anyone to do you walk
into Lori's natural food. You'll find three people with a mask,
including employees. Okay, you have a yes, seven feet arm
there too.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. I'll tell you what, man, They're
the friendliest people you lover meet.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, So it's like, look, if you want to whenever
people want to do, it's America.
Speaker 1: You should be able to do that.
Speaker 3: I may look at it sideways, but okay, and if
you're doing that to like and I'm never going to
see you again, and you're doing it to keep me
from getting.
Speaker 4: Your germs, God bless you. Okay, God bless you.
Speaker 1: You were being a dick just now you were bringing
up I guarantee there's one person in the Yeah, because
there's some people who are just doing it all the
times I haven't seen that. I can repect it here.
Speaker 4: I can respect you doing that, and still you're right
to do it. Still think you're a nutshob.
Speaker 1: Okay. The ones that I always question were the people
that wore them while in their car. But then I
thought maybe they rented the car. They don't want to
sneeze on that. I don't know. I always try to
give them. Let me tell you about this, the group thing.
Because it comes back to the confidence stuff. Last night
I had to lead. We all have to do it
rotates through and you have to lead the small group, okay.
And what I did was I made my group therapy
about group therapy and I compared it to boxing, and
I said, when you step in the ring, you have
to have confidence. And the worst thing for most boxers,
they when something goes bad, it's the punch they didn't
throw that they regret. It's what you didn't say in
the group that you regret. And what does it take
to get you to that moment? And I brought in
like focus mits and we did the whole thing where
it was like, you know, I wish I said blank,
and then you have to hit the pats three times
and they fucking loved it. But it is one of
those things going back to confidence. It's the comp to
get up and sometimes I mean think about that, Like
I never really thought I could do sales because I
just it's just like all right, man, I can't, you know,
But this stuff I had no problem public speaking, have
no problem, get on the stage, no problem. But there
are certain areas where like I don't want to and
in those group therapy things. People don't want to hurt
each other's feelings. They may not agree with something, but
but then you walk away. I wish i'd say, yes,
that's what I'm saying. It's always the punch you didn't
throw that you regret. And I mean that when they
said in a boxing, in a boxing, the.
Speaker 4: Truth will set you free, they're not kidding.
Speaker 1: It's real.
Speaker 4: The truth will set you when you when you rely
upon your feelings. That's what happens. You know, I shouldn't
I should have said that, I shouldn't done. I'm not
saying I use.
Speaker 3: Kouth, but man, you can't let your feelings right everything
override every No.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think all of us have been
in those situations. Yes, and sometimes like our delivery systems shitty.
I'll say, let me rephrase that. My delivery system any
times in my life was shitty. My sentiment behind it.
If you said it in a nicer way, you probably
would have had much more success. But people didn't want
to be dealing with it.
Speaker 3: That's what I learned from watching you explode and watching
my father over the years and all that. Okay, when
you get process it, how would you say it? I've learned.
I'm not knocking you. I've okay, how would I handle you?
Speaker 1: Know, I've never really seen mad. I've never really seen
mad that guy right there. I've never seen you like ripping,
fucking ripping like a rip a cardoor off, angry. Yeah,
you just don't what the fuck is that? I just
bottle it up. And then when I do explode, I explode.
But I've never even seen you explode. I've heard no
stories of you exploding, like seriously, I'm not trying to
do anything. I just as we're talking about this, because
I've seen Danny frustrated, almost.
Speaker 4: Mad, but I'm making a joke out of it, well almost.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes nowadays, way more so than the last time. No, no, no,
ten years ago, now no. But you would get upset,
but you never got to where I would go. And
then I've never even heard you like raise your voice.
Oh I raised my voice and my kids all the time.
Well yeah, okay, but that I just lived by is
what it is. They can't fucking change it. Just deal
with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've since moods from you, but I've
never seen you flip like I can tell if you've
been if you've been upset about something but out there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I don't think I've never seen you
like called him and gone, dude, what's going on in
the north of Nedge? Fine, I'm good. In the past,
I have called you and only because it's like sentence
he was off, you know, and he didn't want to
say anything. That's fine. But never did I ever see
you like I've never seen blow up fucking foe. I
mean no, remember when.
Speaker 3: We played the call that like Kevin's I'll talk about
his mom dying then racing Randy flipping out about they moved.
Speaker 1: The just you know we did this, you call and
left a voicemail say my mom just or whatever. It
was not just my mom died or something or or
didn't go right. So like even very even Keel right
after you was racing Randy on my voicemail flipping the
fuck out over over NASCAR, like I mean that they.
Speaker 3: Moved the Walkings Glad Race from August to September and
it threw off his entire and now he's pissed off
that they moved it to May now come out even
go this your buddy.
Speaker 1: I've decided. The thing is like sometimes the things that
hit us much more emotionally deeper. It's a calmer water
at the surface. Right, Yes, then the shallower thing is NASCAR,
because what does it really doesn't really mean anything.
Speaker 4: But it was funny there because he you couldn't understand him.
It was like he was speaking another language.
Speaker 3: Go through like if we if we were on the radio,
I would have had to beep about seven or eight
beeps out of that call because Randy was so upset.
Speaker 1: I thought that was so that was so funny, not
funny for you, but funny in the sense that it
was interesting. Yeah. I did get Tyler's coach to send
me the drunk voicemails I left him. Oh you did? Yeah,
where are they? They're on my phone. Yeah. When do
we do this? Whatever you want? Maybe we do it Monday,
coming off a weekend. I'll play them for it if
well know what we What I think would be funny
is try to guess what Kevin says next, like we
play it up. It would have to be because you
and I would know would have to be other people
because I could edit it up to a point, or
or what you're doing on this place mail.
Speaker 4: Or pols feathers.
Speaker 1: What we could do I'll have both. What we could
do is we could have our friend chop it up
and send it back and then I won't know what's
coming next. But we have to guess. I'd have to
hear at least one to see if you say something
like you pussy. You know, there's only two, so there's
not a lot of okay, all right, Well I haven't
asked a lot of dick. All right, we'll take them moment.
You know, there's some things that just happened in the
world that I always go, I don't know, what are
you doing. You're thrown away so much by doing this,
And it has to do with teachers and inappropriate behavior. Now,
there was a story we did earlier in the week.
I have a little bit of a follow up on.
I will put it this way. A listener has added
some stuff to the story. Got a teacher in Macedon
was arrested and I believe it's on federal prostitution charges.
It feels like Dan for a number of years, this
guy was hosting prostitution parties at his house and he
would promote them through email. Sixty five year old teacher
in Wayne County and he got busted. But you would
go in. So it almost sounds like this is where
I always scratch my head. What are undercover guys doing?
Speaker 4: Why does it always take so long to get you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Why does it always take so long? Like we didn't
get the right audio, Man, I gotta go back in,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like it feels a little suspicious to me.
Speaker 1: I just say, and looking from the outside, but this guy,
I think, for a number of years, was hosting at
his home and there were different rooms, had different services.
You could get rendered in the room, and it was
making money. Now what I said was, why why are
we saying he was a teacher who cares as long
as it was consenting adults. And every other thing that
we have called immoral in some way over the years,
whether it be marijuana, gambling, alcohol, they're all legal now
for the most part in most states. Not in every state,
but in a lot of states. Prostitution probably should be
as well, because it's the world's oldest profession. It's not
going away. You could just handle it better. And there's
tax dollars, clearly, But either way, this guy gets busted
for that. And I said, and I sort of defended
in it's consenting adults. He's a teacher. Clearly he's got
to lose the job and everything. You're gonna go to jail.
But as long as it didn't involve a minor, who
cares in terms of that, right, Well, apparently there's a
little bit more and just as another little tea's The
guy's nickname was Major Hands. That's how he sent his
emails and stuff. Major Hands. I don't know his real name.
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the Stones last night at moult Connery's. Oh he did,
I did. I'll stay right there, go back to the
other way. There you go. That's it. There. He is.
Speaker 5: Perfect.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe not so much. It's like that all the time.
So Kevin is save some drunk voicemails of his. He
had a couple of y I didn't say if they
were sent back to me. Oh, they were sent back
to Kevin. Now we have a guy that I think
everybody in this room really likes and has been on
the podcast. He's a long time listener and we have
great listeners. Vinnie Gettis and Vidi loves to call and
you can call her text anytime five eight five two
zero six eighty eight sixty six. You can say anything
you want. You may get on, you may not. Oh, yes,
yes he did. Here is his latest call.
Speaker 5: Come mom, brother Friday. No right, party, still jumping because
mama's working late tonight.
Speaker 1: Actually this is an old one that this is the
new one that was sober.
Speaker 5: Yeah, happy Saint Patty's dayn mother fucker. Put on your
fucking green mercans. Start working. Let's go, brother.
Speaker 1: Okay, now here's Kevin, tell me how much? And then
I have another Vinnie and we'll just compare. Are they
actually related?
Speaker 7: This is a ruling fucking emergency. I'm fucking hammer. Crady's
not fucking coming. That's to his his son's hockey coach,
Bob talking to the wall in the background.
Speaker 1: And then here's Vinnie again. This one's to you Dan.
I don't know where that's a sound of silence. Oh
it must that's not a hang on. I can get it.
I can still get it. I will get it right
now here we go. It is this one right here.
Speaker 5: Uh Dan translation, go get a fucking couple of guinness,
bang down some Jamesons. Fucking need a gummy.
Speaker 1: And chill bill. So it's the Dan and a bell.
It it's to Danny, says Booth. So whose voicemas are
her sister no grammar bag and my aunt Grandma egg
and my aunt what is the really bad one? That
was the really bad one? That was? That was terrible?
All right, We've got another situation. And and these come
up every once in a while. And I don't know
that at some point your wife's gonna work with one
of these people, if she hasn't already that that gets
busted for pimps. That's not what I mean. Like, it's
they get it inappropriate. I hope there's a union. They
get it busted for inappropriate behavior with a kid. And
and it's always one of these things that kind of
surprises me. We've got another one this time. Now. Now,
before I say that I should I should couch this
and say we don't know, we don't know, but allegedly, well,
I mean when you say there's nothing to see here,
that means there's always something. Wow, that's exactly where everybody
starts looking, is it not? Is it not? When they
say that, so do you what do you want to see?
An oil stain. Uh, we've got another local situation, an
athletic director this time placed on administrative leave, and the
schools being extremely careful with their words, very careful, not
involving students, not on campus, confidential situation. Those are the words.
Do we know what school? Yes, we did say what school?
Speaker 4: Uh? We is it a local school?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We play east side, west side through and five.
Oh it's a little far west side, far west side.
Uh holly, nope, further Batavia. Yeah, oh a Notre Dame died,
So we gotta.
Speaker 4: Make sure we get it all in now.
Speaker 1: And anytime you hear that kind of language, I got,
it just makes people, I don't know, wonder your asshole
puckers a little bit. You go, something's up, because it's
just like we talked about another situation locally where the
teacher ended up in serious legal trouble. And that was
the one I was telling you before we went to
break your hands, mador hands. Now you're hearing from people saying, hey,
there have been there may have been signs before that.
Now nothing confirmed, but it raises a bigger question. Why
does it feel like sometimes we only hear the full
story after everything blows up, and that is when you're
gonna hear the full story. But it's in those situations
where you go, what are we missing along the way?
How long? Because you got to be first? If you
ain't first or last, no no, no, that's the ratings,
So that's you're gonna get what you got and then
the full story comes out. News is loaded with Ricky
Bobby's right, But that's not what I mean so much.
I mean, like, you don't you big red fuck you. Well,
look if the school does it right and then the
news finds out because it's public record or someone calls
and says it, there's a lot of times the schools
they don't want that shit. Absolutely, they don't want that out.
So how long did the thing go on with the
guy the principal in I always say the town was
the specter, Hilton, Hilton, thank you, yes, that guy a
number of years years, years and years. That's what I'm saying.
It's like, this shit goes on for years and years.
So when we say the whole story blows up, yeah,
by then I get you with the news, but it's
been percolating underneath, and people were saying something to get
the ball rolling all along. But sometimes it's like you're
pushing that boulder up a hill before you get before,
before it happens, you know. Uh, when they say no comment,
Uh personal manner, not related to students. We fill in
the bikes on our own, do we not?
Speaker 4: Of course, our imagination runs wild, and so.
Speaker 1: Well are they are they protecting? Are they truly protecting privacy?
Or are they protecting their ass?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 1: They're protecting themselves, right, So it starts to make like
when does silence create more suspicion than any clarity at all?
Speaker 4: Always?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird thing when people just don't say anything.
And then there are times where people say stuff and
then nobody believes them anyway, Like they could say and go,
here's what happened, Here's what I was going to do.
I here's why this didn't happen, or this is what
our organization was gonna do. That's why it didn't happen.
And people, you fuck, they don't know. Uh, due process matters,
you know, I it doesn't, no, no, no, no, And
rumors can really I mean you can destroy innocent people
with this ship. Yes, if it's done the wrong way.
And I say that due process doesn't matter in the news,
I mean, the first start will be on the front page,
the attraction will be on the back of the the
back of the classified D four dude, Danny's column. You
are so right and that you know. No, I don't
know that there are any newspapers. Yeah, I don't know
that there's any newspapers anymore. But you uh as much.
But you're right. They I mean, the retraction always comes
like at the end of the newscast, and it was
the lead story last day thirteen.
Speaker 4: We apologizes to former newscaster.
Speaker 1: But I always say, patterns matter, yes, right, when you
start to see something, patterns matter. So how many warning
signs get ignored? And it's weird that a guy who
looks like he's been around for a while, season older
guy like the athletic director out of school that's got
a bit of a name in tell at school too. Yeah, yeah, okay,
the major hands story.
Speaker 4: How do you get a nickname like that? Nobody raised
any red flags?
Speaker 1: Okay, but player, come on, brow no all receiver. Here
here's the here's the weird part understanding hands when when
I tell when I tell you what, I tell you what?
A listener texted, and I went back and forth on
the line at five eight five two zero, six eighty
eight sixty six.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The listener was saying that there were red flags. This
guy was a seventh sixth seventh. I don't want to
say sixth seventh, six seven, but either sixth seventh grade
or behind.
Speaker 4: I kept thinking of height, seven seventh eighth grade. Major
hands are just the potat major hands.
Speaker 1: So and now, allegedly, according to a listener, before the
federal charges came for the prostitution, he was fired from
the school district for inappropriate behavior. Now it could be
a contractual thing that if you get stung in a
prostitution ring, you're out. That could be I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was right here in clause four of our charter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I I have no no idea. It's
a flashy purple suit, the first code the cadillac you
drive up to school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like when she would would would o'keef there went
till like acorn dresses up.
Speaker 1: As a pit. But they were like going along with it.
I'm just going to the play.
Speaker 4: I hate his ball after this, but he's got his
crunk glass.
Speaker 1: The listener said that that his daughter and her friends
complained that the guy would give shoulder massage that's probably
called the major hand. Well, I don't I see now
the many have a buzz cut. Hang on the major
hands thing. I don't even think. I saw a picture
of this cat, and I think he's sixty five. But
major hands was I thought his pimp?
Speaker 4: Ny ddey, why do you sit so?
Speaker 1: What is wrong?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry?
Speaker 1: Did I Did I do something wrong? Again? Everything? No,
I'm gonna give me one second because when I do that,
then now you gotta move two seconds later. No, I'm
gonna he sits so low that I can't get a.
Speaker 4: Would you like me to sit up? I'll sit up.
Speaker 1: No, I'll make it easy. But we missed that. Like
but you set up for like a minute and a
half and then you slinker back down. That's really he likes.
Hey like those eighties. Now I got to redo the
whole damn thing. Can I get the one in the
wine glass? Oh? Look at this with the little rose
behind it? Remember those yeah parents in the eighties. Hey,
this will be look cool.
Speaker 4: Let's get a picture in a wineglass with a rose.
Speaker 1: Should you haven't seen a picture of a major? I
don't think so. I don't think I have a sixty
five year old guy right. New York Post has him
the New York Paul Man.
Speaker 4: They're the most reliable. They got everything. He's also on
page six they had the story of all what's your
name too? It says disgraced teacher nickname major hands.
Speaker 1: He used to hosting prostitution parties.
Speaker 4: Now why now this guy looks like he'd be the
teacher you kind of liked?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: Probably because yeah, yeah, so that's why you.
Speaker 1: Like, look am I wrong? He's going to be doctor
Moran when you get your pH two?
Speaker 3: He looks like, you know, he looks like Dave Ramsey. Okay,
Dave Ramsey is a very trustworthy name you can finance. Yeah,
did a radio show for thirty years. And like he
just looks like a big grandpa, lovable guy.
Speaker 1: People dot Com has it too, Peoplemagazine dot Com, People
Magazine dot Com. Okay, it's the Britney Spears dwy they
need something new is out again.
Speaker 4: But you're right.
Speaker 1: But when we talk about the uh, when we talk
about the major hands nickname. Now it seems to all
of a sudden makes sense, does it not?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, clicks eventually, eventually the story will click.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's less funny in hindsight. When I first heard
major Hands, I'm like, oh, that's kind of funny. Look
at this guy, I say, yeah, okay, all right, now,
I got it. Anytime there's gaps, yeah, look to fill
the gaps.
Speaker 3: And we all do when there's silence, Like you said,
we fill our own gaps and sometimes we're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how about the things that we brush off
early on as quirky? Yeah, just a guy just you know,
he's an older guy, he's harmless. Let's just keep moving
and we do people do that early on? Yeah? Oh,
jadis white.
Speaker 3: Just have a physical relationship. Man, it's really not that
big deal. I know, juice cann't kill anybody.
Speaker 4: Well, just like the just like the not even married anymore,
just like the group thing.
Speaker 1: I did step into the ring. When do people speak
up or stay quiet because it's awkward and you don't
want to be the person like I don't know I
ever heard the kids talking. I'm sick of him.
Speaker 3: Give because whistleblowing becomes punishment. Yes, look at the John
Cyriaco situation. It's a it's a great story. I mean, yeah,
because because no good deed goes unpunished.
Speaker 1: No. But the scariest part of all this stuff and
as you said, like it makes the headline, right, yep, right,
it's not that it's the idea that the headline is
actually a prequel to something else that already happened. Then
we're not that we're not fully aware of. That's the
part that I think is sometimes the most the scariest stuff.
You know, and you think about it with like coaching personalities,
locker room behavior, you know, if somebody spend a lot
of time with your kids. How about the about the families?
And I don't I don't think it happens often. But
fifteen fourteen, fifteen year old kids going to play hockey
and with the family that's not their own bill. Yeah,
they're called what billet families? Billet families? Yeah, So I
don't know. And the thing that I don't get with
these guys is why risk it all? Why risk everything
You had? You had to go, usually as a teacher,
to get an advanced degree, so you put in a
lot of money, You got a stable job. Most of
the time, you have community respect because you think he
can get away with it. Look at Cosby.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't tell me he was. He got away with
it with a lot of people. And oh, by the way,
he had a lot of help along the way, which,
by the way, nobody's implicated, well who, but the thing
is who, Well, I don't know, but I'm just saying, like,
you don't. You don't get to be that without help.
And a lot of these like schools are like good
old boys clubs. Some of these guys probably participated in it.
Hey come out over the house on Saturday. We got
Shamique and Letitia and Angela Chelsea. Gotta take the everyone
from the mom one number five record is gonna be
in attendance.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the good with the bad, though, because
there's a lot of people that try to start shit
about people too. Yes, like what I'm saying, I was
talking to the woman from Primetime dollars and they gave
her on the internet on Facebook. They gave her a
ton of shit because she went into the Aquinas Boys
locker room at the Section five Championships. Nobody knew that
she was invited in. Coaches were there the boys were
all completely dressed. We had a father is a cop
right there as well. Nothing was happening. She was invited in,
but people are, oh, she's trying to get in there
and see these boys. No, no, she wasn't. Oh my gosh,
people are assholes. Yeah, see that, And that's the thing.
That's why I said, like, you gotta wait for due
process in some way. But at the same time, there's
a number of people in the past who were teachers
who did that stuff, and it's always sometimes like the
ones that I don't get are the woman who's in
her early thirties has a two year old at home
and she's been uh, play and hide the salami with
a fifteen or sixteen year old boy, and they go, you,
is it impulse control?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? Entitlement control? Well, maybe power dynamics.
I don't get it. The I won't get caught mindset
of something. I'm it's the control she has over the
fifteen year old boy because he can't say anything. She
owns his ass. Yeah. Oh, and when you're fifteen and
you're now in a hot teacher, all you want to
do is continue now that hot teacher. No, you gotta
keep a goddamn el shit right until what though Mom
reads a text message or something. Then all of a
sudden you come in all weepy eyed, go to yeah,
you don't want to get in trouble, so uh you spill?
Speaker 4: You know, he turned state's evidence against your teacher and.
Speaker 1: Better night life, but with Pete Davidson where he's had
sex with a teacher, and then what they call you,
captain pimp, all these different names like the dumb man,
da man. I don't know. You a career, a reputation,
a life, and you're trading all that for a decision
that may not even last an hour. Look at Governor Spitzer.
I mean, guys do this all the time. But Governor
Spitzer was, by the way, sorry, I'm never gonna think
he wasn't slightly set up on this. Of course he was.
Speaker 4: He spy the White House, but.
Speaker 1: He got Yes, he was. I will always think that however,
he he was. There were a multiple women I think
that came out after that saying he had paid them
for sex. So yes, right, we found out.
Speaker 4: Hey did you learn did you learn about that in
therapy class? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: It means I got bad toenails. That's usual, and he's
got to keep that circulation from keep that boner going. Yeah,
I don't know a teacher a let's behavior at school
secret life outside school.
Speaker 3: I think the other thing, too, is the is the
thrill of not getting caught or almost getting caught.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to that too.
Speaker 3: I know a guy who went to rehab for alcohol,
and since he's been back, he hasn't had a drink
in years, and he goes.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was the alcohol. I think it
was the fact that my I didn't want that.
Speaker 3: My wife almost caught me this time, and that time
it was like sneaking around because he didn't because he
didn't really have much of a life, but he was
hiding the fact that he was drinking to you know,
self medicate from his wife because he wasn't a big
drinker before all of a sudden he decided he starts drinking,
and then things became a problem for a short period
of time and he goes.
Speaker 4: I think it was the thrill of actually drinking and
getting away.
Speaker 1: With it all of you goddamn voice, I'll admit it
right there. But when you think about this, right you've
got I don't know what to believe about major hands, right,
but it's got a double life, right, you're teaching you're
teaching him pimping, literally teaching him pimping. How about the
Ponzi scheme, lady, right? Double life? Absolutely, double life. You know,
there's public identity and then there's the reality of stuff.
And I can't find my fucking car keys and I
lose my mind. I can't imagine trying to hide a
double life. Remember Charles Carralt on the road. Two fucking
families get to families, two fucking families.
Speaker 4: On each coast.
Speaker 1: One was in Oregon and I think there was one
in New York. Yeah, yeah, how the fuck do you
do that? And I don't know that they found out
until he died.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after he died, Yeah, that he had.
Speaker 1: Anybody had to know something. But we were talking about
the time where it ain't like today. It ain't like today,
But still, how do you fucking do that?
Speaker 4: Who's the hockey coach who didn't know how to read?
Speaker 3: And it wasn't discovered until he picked up a newspaper
and was looked like he was reading it upside down
and they're like, dad, Dad, why are you holding the
paper upside down?
Speaker 4: Was it Jack de Maryer or somebody? And they've I
realize you never never learned to read mat you keep
it that straight up. That's a small thing, but still right.
Speaker 1: But but look, even all this other stuff, we're not
saying anything about this current situation beyond what's being reported, right,
and people deserve due process. That we've said that, yes,
but it does bring up a larger conversation in my
mind about patterns, behavior and how these things tend to unfold.
The guy who's the athletic director that they're not giving
you a lot in front. You usually just don't hush
hust somebody's just gone unless there's some proof along the way,
or you don't feel like dealing with the bullshit, right,
somebody's threatening something, so you just go, okay, this is
the simplest solution first, right, Well, if it's not student,
it's not athletic or building, it's it's got to be dwy.
It could be that. That's a great, great point, But
why do you lose your job for aw we shouldn't.
But again, I don't know what's in the contract.
Speaker 3: I know of two teachers that I was taught by
who lost their jobs because of DWY.
Speaker 1: Multiple or one one really one.
Speaker 4: Of our education and one of them is now with
the kids in the car. One of them is the
vice principal now in Greece.
Speaker 1: Not joking.
Speaker 3: He left our town to go to degree and then
you know, and then a buddy of mine actually worked
for him. He said, Hey, do you remember Dan Brello?
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't like, yeah, you do.
Speaker 4: Everybody remembers me.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, Yeah, that's funny. Well, look, the truth is,
it's never the first moment. It's it's the moment everything
finally gets exposed that ruins someone, not the first moment
that something happens.
Speaker 3: And the time he got caught. I regret having been caught. Yeah,
I don't regret all the moments up until I got caught.
But now that I've gotten caught, I regret everything.
Speaker 1: And but the questions that I think people wrestle with
is were their signs or are we just really good
at ignoring them until we can anymore, until all of
a sudden, it's now like in everybody's face. He's a
good guy. He's gotten us done. He got you know,
everybody voted the school taxes through because he was the
leader there.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's just you know, remember when
Sheriff Baxter took over as the chief of police in
Greece and they reopened that firecase from the holiday in
like nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine. There was a
huge fire and the guy who was implicating I mean,
and then in this Canadian television station came up and
did a documentary on it. It was like, how did
this get swept under the rug for at that point
four decades or three and a half decades.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did they get they was dead already, I don't remember. No,
he was alive. They interviewed him and he I don't recall.
I don't recall. But they're saying that they felt like
there was gasoline can set around, yeah somewhere, and that
maybe someone was having an affair or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like something along those lines, like the fire was
like purposely set.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what they were alleging. And I think there
was a while and I think there were a couple
of investigators that said the same thing. But again, you
talk about I mean, I know Greece is large right
for summer, but it's small town in a sense, and
they're the kind of look at all the other ship
that's gone on anywhere anywhere, It just parted anywhere, like
anywhere they do it happens, we do it well, Greece,
you did, You did a really good one. Like we
We can drive on the tired daddy.
Speaker 4: We had a host gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we can deliver. We can deliver babies on cocaine.
We got it all summer a love. That was a
wild summer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine twenty ten.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember now, but yes, but but every
school even we'll even claim the ship that goes on
at Sherlock because it's right there. Yeah, he's right there.
You do us. Hey, we had a bunch of things
and some other things coming up in the works here.
We are probably going to go out and do a
live show. God that sticks. God damn. I just got
a piece of it. I did not.
Speaker 4: It was hardly, it was all hardly anything.
Speaker 1: But I just got a piece of it. You didn't.
I did fucking breath coming off the microphone.
Speaker 4: Friendly, there's no way because the air isn't going that way.
Speaker 1: You lift. I didn't lift a name. I lean forward.
You've got some big things coming up here well, Yes,
a live show. Yes, we're gonna do a live show probably, Yeah,
the whole show. An asshole, Major Hans's House. Major, We're
gonna be broadcast. We're gonna do a podcast from Major Hands,
Major at Major Hands, the bunker at Major Hands, which,
by the way, sounds like a delightful place I'd.
Speaker 4: Like to go drink, you know what I mean, just
a little more blacked out windows.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we have that coming. Check out our YouTube page.
We are on YouTube at Builified. I have a substack
that is out there. People are signing up yeah, like
crazy for that and all the social media stuff. Follow
us on Facebook and Instagram and x is primarily where
we are and you can find us all there as well.
And then you know what come in anytime. And by
the way, I just want to do this real quick
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Speaker 4: I'm where we're done.
Speaker 1: We'll also we'll also got prizes for the listener sends
us the best ship. We do want some cool ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll give you.
Speaker 1: One of the other items. And somebody's just coming to
We're gonna get merchant working on that as well. Merchandise
is coming all kinds of things, a lot of a
lot of plates spinning. The here meeting, No, we had
the meeting. We tried to have the meeting, and he
didn't share my enthusiasm on the meeting the other day.
What are you talking about? And I called you with
all my stuff, Well yeah, but seemed so uninterested.
Speaker 4: You had a meeting about the meeting.
Speaker 1: No, when did I talk to you Friday?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But what did I tell you was going on?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, So my head was like, so I was, yeah, No,
I need some excitement when I bring ideas to the table.
Right Well, I liked all of it, and I meant
that I need little Hitler two point off my ass
to Alex. It's talking about Ali. Alex has done a
great job does with really helping us in terms of
lighting and all the things. All Right, I don't know
when to catch it all the ship like Fiber for Fiber,
Dan for the ship catcher, Kevin, I'm Bill Murran. We'll
see you next time.
Speaker 5: They know when we was up.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't