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done what we're going to do for this introduction. After this,
everybody duck welcoming back to the show. Derek Lee of
The Hockey News, who is going to talk Anaheim Ducks
with us? How are you doing today, Derek.
Speaker 4: And Jesse, how are you guys?
Speaker 3: Good? Good? Unfortunately talking Anaheim rather early in the offseason.
It would be cool if we were having to wait
a little bit longer, but and I always feel bad
on these first couple episodes, Derek, I'm not calling out
your team, but we got to give the straight dirt,
the straight truth here, and the truth is the Ducks
were out of the playoffs for the seventh straight year.
This year third fewest goals in the NHL with two
hundred and seventeen. That's compared to the league leader, who
scored two hundred ninety two. One problem was the league
worst power play eleven point eight percent for the Ducks.
The defense allowed the most shots against in the league
with twenty six and forty eight. Luckily, there was a
little bit of goodness in the goaltending. We'll get to
the goaltenders a little bit later. That kept things from
going completely off the rails there. And even though this
year actually saw standings points improvements from fifty nine to
eighty points, second year coach Greg Cronin will not have
a third chance at leading the turnaround. Now. I'll warn
all of our listeners and YouTube Derek that we are
recording these shows in advance, so as we record, the
Ducks do not have a coach that will probably be
a fossil by the time that this episode is released.
And certain past coaches whose last names start with Q
have been rumored, and of course we just don't know
who the Ducks are going to hire. I won't hold
you to anything there, but all being said, as you
reflect on this last year and think about how things
are looking forward, how did Ducks watchers view what just
happened in what big changes are you expecting?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because, like you mentioned, they had the
point increase twenty one points. In most situations you'd feel
like that's a big positive going from going to that
big of an increase. But like you also mentioned, the
goaltending was really great all season. The special teams, power
play and penalty killer booth to the worst in the league,
and I think the goaltending really papered over a lot
of those kind of subpar attributes of the team. So,
like I think, you look at the goals saved above
expected and it's ten plus more than that. The goaltending
really heavily attributed to a reason why the Ducks honestly,
weren't the worst team in the league. If they had
league average goaltending or even below average goaltending, I think
you'd see them competing for the Sharks and the Blackhawks
for that top pick in the upcoming draft. But there
was a couple of guys that took big steps of
Jackson McComb is definitely one of the guys that took
the biggest step for sure, forty three points in seventy
five games in this full second first his second full
season as an NHLR, so that was a big story
all year. Leo Carlson, he had a slow start and
in his sophomore season he picked it up after playing
for Sweden at four Nations being around those kinds of guys,
the top players from his home country. Cuter Goche also
got off a slow start, but he ended up twenty
goals forty.
Speaker 4: Four points in his rookie season.
Speaker 5: Him and Leo Carlson, they're connecting a little bit down
the stretch, and you look at guys like Mason McTavish,
Trevis Segres, those guys have been in the league for
a little bit. They were picking it up a little bit.
At the end of the season, they were on the
line together. Zegers season natural center, he was playing winning
next to McTavish, So those guys were picking it towards
the end. And then again Troy Terry, he's led the
team in points I think for the last three seasons
or so. He's just always been a constant for the team.
I think he'd like to see a little bit more offense,
especially as this team is gearing up for a playoff
push next year. Like general manager Pat for Beeks said, So,
whether that's acquiring some sort of scoring talent via free
agency or trade or whatnot during Austin, I think that's
definitely going to be something that the team has to
look forward to the summer.
Speaker 3: We want to dig into pretty much every guy you
just talked about. Yeah, clearly, Pat Verbeek was not having
it at the end of the season, and that's part
of the reason things had to change. But let's start
with Troy Terry. Because Troy Terry's fifty five points unfortunately
led the Ducks this year and scoring, which is disappearing
disappointing level to lead. But don't blame Troy Terry. He
did score fifty five points and that ain't too shabby.
The Terry Veatrono stromeline played the second most minutes together
of any five on five forward line in the NHL
last year, had a ton of minutes together. He started
with eight points and ten games. He had a nice
little six goal and two assists in in eight point
total flurry in a six game stretch around the new year,
and then he missed some time. It sounds like there
was some family challenge involving the birth of a child.
And I'm not going to try to psychoanalyze him. I'm
not going to say, if anything, stick taps for being
able to play and be a highly productive NHL player
through some of that. But and he was pretty good
even after he came back. But definitely the second half
of Troy Terry's season did not match up to the
first half. He slowed considerably as the team malingered down
the stretch. And one wonder is fifty five points that
the team around him were a bit more productive, Maybe
his production could get back from the fifties into that
seventy point pace that he was managing there for a
couple of seasons when he really broke out. I don't know.
His level of production pretty reasonable for a seven million
dollar contract for the long term in this day and
age with a rising cap. But what did you see
from Troy Terry this year and what are your expectations
for him the twenty seven year old going forward.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an opposite from last season. The twenty twenty
three twenty four seven got off to a slow start
a little bit, and then this past season they've had
a slow finish. I think part of that is just
their line that the Toronto Terry stromline, Like that line
was pretty bad to end the season. I think they
had maybe ten points or something as a line in
the last like thirteen or fourteen games. So that's really
a big issue. And the fact is that they got
a lot of ice time together. Is the lines were
jumbled together most of the season. It's like you had
guys like mctavis going down the fourth line, Goce going
down the fourth line, but the whole time, the constant
was the Toronto Strom Terry, and I think that might
have been part of the bigger issue is the Toronto
and Strom. They're capable players, they can be solid role
players in their own right, but I think Terry on
this team, he's more than that.
Speaker 4: He's more than a role player.
Speaker 5: He's someone like you mentioned, you wanted to be the
top scorer of the top goal scorer on the team.
And he's just not playing with guys like that regularly
like you want him to be playing, maybe more with
guys like Maceon McTavish or Leo Carlson. These are guys
that are supposed to be the foundations, the cornerstones of
the team, and you're playing him with the Toronto and Strom.
Like I said, they're capable guys, but they're not the
it guys for this team that you want the team
to be.
Speaker 4: The nucleus of the team.
Speaker 5: Is guys like Terry, Guys like McTavish, Carlson, Gochad like
guys that you envision are going to be on the
team six seven years down the road from now. I think,
whoever the next head coach, whoever it may be, I
think one of the big resolutions or kind of the
big factors is getting Terry with better quality teammates, better
players that he can play off of and he doesn't
have to be kind of the line driver every time
when you're on the ice.
Speaker 2: Indeed, and one of the guys that we might hope
can do that is Mason McTavish, who you also alluded to.
He played twelve more games this season than last. He
increased his time on ice by just over half a
minute and increases point total point pace from fifty four
to fifty six. He's now crossed the two hundred games
played thresholds. It makes me think this kind of might
be who he is. Maybe he's just a fifty five
ish point player. You'll tell us about that. According to
Evolving Hockey, his offense is a seventy fourth percentile, pretty
high expected goal of actual goal contribution. Defensively, though, it
looks statistically like one of the worst forwards in the league,
only twelve percent tile. So I'm not sure if that's
what you think we can expect from McTavish moving forward.
Not so good defensively, pretty decent offensive contribution. Do you
think there's more points upside than what he's shown? What
do you think we can expect they're there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's hard to evaluate everyone offensively just
because like the way that great Cronin system is set up,
it's very defensive minding. A lot of it is just
dump and chase. I feel like that gets often they're misrepresented.
A lot dump and chase isn't necessarily bad. You can
recover pucks, but the Ducks weren't very good at idea.
Speaker 4: The way that.
Speaker 5: Their team is set up is counterintuitive to that. They
have a lot of guys that feed off the rush.
They can play well off the rush with speed, and
that's just not really the way that the team plays.
So when you have guys that aren't really fit for
the system that they wanted set up, it doesn't really.
Speaker 4: Bode well for those guys.
Speaker 5: I think it's great that McTavish got a new career
high this year. He's had forty points and all three
of this full season forty plus points in all three
of the full seasons at the NHL level, and that
came especially after he had a slow start, look like
maybe he was playing through something. Eventually in November he
sat out a little bit while he was recovering from
an injury. He had a really strong finish. Just Carlson
negotiated to the season. I think offensively he's going to
be great. He's great option on the power plays, while
he's got that lethal shot the one timers, an option
that they really tried for it felt like no matter
what the penalty kill was. But I think he nailed
on the head. Like defensively, he hasn't been great. Actually
last season he was. I would say he was probably
worse defensively. You could see the Gears turning this year
in terms of defensive coverage and things like that. And
I think the next head coach, whatever their system is,
and maybe it'll vowe a little bit better for McTavish
because playing man man is just such a demanding system defensively,
So if you make one, like a little mistake or
you just have a lapse in concentration, that can really
just screw everything because then everything is just all out
of whack. Maybe a better system for McTavish, if they
go to his own or whatever it is, I think.
Speaker 4: That can help them out a little bit more defensively too.
Speaker 3: Trevor Ziegris, where do we start, Derek, I'm struggling here
because this was the wonder Kin, this was the video
game cover boy. He was so exciting. He had these
great plays, and he had a second straight underwhelming season.
He had a mildly positive impact compared to his teammates
on offense at five on five a negative impact, went
on an ice for defense. Thirty two points and fifty
seven games is not what we wanted. Yes, now give
him a break. He missed six weeks for tearing his meniscus.
Coming back after six weeks after tearing your meniscus is something.
His production was not great even before that though, to
be fair, and then in February he gave really nasty
blow to Michael Rasmussen's head and lost three more games
due to his suspension. He's somewhat warmed up late in
the season when he got with McTavish and Colangelo, who
were both kalangel will still talk, but still nott stellar.
Is this just a second straight lost season, a previous
season injury in down production from his really very promising
early career and things are going to be good next
year or do we just have to give up on
Zigris being a superstar and start thinking of him as
he's just gonna maybe come out to be a pretty
good NHL player.
Speaker 5: It's interesting because we talk about like the whole mainstream media,
they talk about the Vigres like he's supposed to be
like the next coming to whoever, and he named it,
I'm superstar He's drafted ninth overall, and I think you
expect a lot of top ten picks to hit and
be the solid foundation, the cornerstone of the organization, kind
of like I mentioned before with guys like Carlson, Goch
and whatnot. But this is a guy that I still
believe is the most creative player on the team. When
he has the puck on his stick, he makes plays
that you wouldn't expect the average player to make. Sometimes
he makes plays that his teammates don't even expect them
to make. He'll make a pass and it looks like
it's just a blind pass right in the middle of
device and you think, why did he make that power?
Why did he try to make that pass? There's nobody there.
Maybe it's because his teammates aren't expecting it. They're not
expecting someone to find them in that spot, and they
just don't go in. It just looks like an awful turnover.
When he's seen the ice differently than a lot of
players do, and I think he was in a pretty
different role this season. He's playing a lot more wing
than he has and I would say probably his entire
NHL career, probably the most since he was playing with
the NTVP, which is seven years ago, eight years ago.
So I think he's not going to be great defensively.
I think that's something that you just have to live with.
He's worked hard to be better defensively. I think that's
something that Greg Crouner really harped on him about the season,
like on the power Play too. Just like I said,
anytime he has the puck, he's probably the most dangerous
player on this He just sees the ice so well,
he sets up his teammates so well. I think he
gets a lot of undeserved flat just because, like you said,
he's on the cover of the video game, and that's
something that's usually reserved for the best of the best.
Right You've seen guys like Alex Ovechkin and whatnot, like
Sidney Crosby on the cover. But we all know how
good Sidney Crosby is, So when you see somebody like
Trevor Ziegers on the cover, you expect him, I think,
as an outsider at least.
Speaker 4: To be one of the best.
Speaker 5: And so I think that's where a lot of that
undeserved flat comes from. Is he's just he's not the superstar,
but he's still a really good player. He can be
a great top six player on this team, and I'm
really looking forward to seeing what the next head coach
of Vanaheim Ducks can do with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next guy to talk about. You mentioned him. Maybe
not as impressive of a real life player, but let
me tell you a secret Derek fantasy for love.
Speaker 4: Frank Patrono.
Speaker 3: Frank Patrono was the most valuable fantasy skater for this
team last year, and part of that a lot of
minutes on the ice. But what he does is he
gets three shots a hit in a block per game,
and those things all count in our game, in addition
to the forty five points he got in eighty one games.
For those of us who actually pay attention to the salaries,
because those are also cracked in some leagues, he was
on a very low contract. He got an ice raise
and extension this year, but it's still not a huge contract.
It's more reflective of a middle six ish type player,
but one who in some ways got very good production
and quite a bit of time on ice for that
type of a role. And you gotta love the trajectory
of this guy's career. He started out undrafted, He labored
in lower prominence roles for three other teams for years
before arriving in Anaheim in twenty twenty two, grabbing his
current role at the age of twenty eight. Now he's
thirty one. Seventh NHL season is when he finally came
to prominence. Now he's in his I guess he'll be
going into his tenth or something like that. But you
mentioned can you really keep Troy Terry with Frank Vitrono.
There's a rising tide. These young guys were talking about
today are probably kind of come up and get rolls.
And I guess part of my question to talk about
the Toronto and whether he is going to move down
because a guy with that kind of physical game probably
could for a lower line, or whether they're gonna want
that muscle to be up there with some of their
stars on the top lines, to have a little bit
of protection, a little bit of physicality in that top six.
What's the future for Frank Vitrono.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it just depends on what they do
in the offseason right now or not right now. This
past season, their top six for the most part was
the Toronto strong Terry and then the other line was
Leo Carlson and Alex Corn and then whoever they've rotated
in the that before they settled on Goche, which.
Speaker 4: Is what they had the idea of. At the beginning
of the season.
Speaker 5: Go Chi kind of struggled out the gate, so they
went away from that and tried to plug and play
a couple guys, and then they got Goch back up
there for the last twenty or so games. But yeah,
like I mentioned before, having guys like the Toronto and
Strom and like your top nine, I think that's solid
having go Cha Carlson and then maybe you bumped down
Klarn as well, and you have the Toronto Strom Colorin.
That's a solid veteran line. The Toronto and Strom. Also,
they're not fantastic defensively, but I think Colorin in his
own right is really great defensively there. That's just a
hard checking line that can add a little bit of
scoring touch. And like you mentioned the Toronto, he gets
shots on that. He gets hits, he gets blocks. He's
super valuable in a kind of a banger's style type
of league, So I think if you have him in
that kind of role, it still works out. He plays
a lot on the penalty kill, he was playing a
lot on the power play like he's in all situations player.
I don't know if that's the way he's going to
be utilized with going forward, So I think that's something
you have to take into account right because of just
the way that the next head coach is going to
utilize them. But he certainly has a pensiant for getting
shots on that. I feel like there's a shot that
Frankfurt Toronto doesn't like. And then he's led the team
and blocks and hits for the last two seasons as
a forward. Out of all the forwards I should say,
I think the only issue is down the stretch when
he wasn't scoring that much, I feel like he was
getting a little bit frustrated. The pension for taking penalties
popped up there at the end. I think that's something
that patford Beek values. The Toronto's kind of that guy
that's going to get in there, get in the gritty areas.
He's going to be He's got that fire, that competitiveness.
So it'll be interesting to see where his role fits in.
I think it just really depends a lot, like I said,
on what the Ducks do, and maybe they try to
get a little bit more of a top six bone
to fight option to play along somebody like Carlson and
gosche Nice.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to another one of their
young stars or blooming stars, Leocarlin. He had a good
second season with the Ducks. Season they were rationing his starts.
He played fifty five games this season. He pretty much
played them all seventy six games. He increased his point
pace from forty three to forty seven.
Speaker 4: That was good.
Speaker 2: His ice time went down a little bit though, he
went from eighteen oh seven to sixteen fourteen. So all
in all, seemed like pretty successful. Defensively, he seems really good,
sixtieth percentile for defense. Offensively, he seems more average, though
it seems like maybe he was carrying a little bit
of a heavier load this season, so maybe that was
part of it. But he seems like he's clicking around
a fifty ish point pace. Do you think that's what
we should expect from Carlson next season, Derek, or do
you think that they're still upside beyond that in terms
of points?
Speaker 4: Oh, I think he was just scratching the surface. He's
only twenty years old.
Speaker 5: A lot not a lot of guys are playing regularly
in the NHL at twenty years old. The league is
getting younger and faster, and so we might start to
see some younger guys popping up. But getting almost fifty
points in your second season the league as a twenty
year old, I think that's pretty impressive, especially when, like
I said, the system didn't really compliment. The way that
this team can play is off the rush and using
their speed to generate a lot of chances. And I
think we saw that a little bit more in the
second half. They played a little bit more free flowing,
and I think that the next head coach can embrace
that style of play. I think that'll help guys out,
like guys like Carlson out a lot. He's playing on
the power play. Obviously, he's one of the best offensive
talents on the team. He's playing on the penalty kill.
I would hope that the next head coach continues to
utilize him on the penalty kill because he's a smart player.
And as we move towards teams utilizing their penalty killers
more as power killers in the sense of you don't
want to just defend the posing power play, you want
to take chances you want to push the pace and
take advantage of them maybe having just one defenseman back
because they're on the power play. He's a great all
around player. I think he is going to be the
franchise star for the team, and obviously you don't want
to ease that term lightly because now everybody's going to
be a star.
Speaker 4: But I think he has the potential.
Speaker 5: You can see it right now, and just having him
and gootiate together, I think that's going to be a
really dynamic duel for years to come.
Speaker 2: Indeed, and Carlson definitely helped me in one of my leagues,
take me all the way to the finals. He was
pretty good down the stretch of the Fantasy Hockey playoffs,
And if that's a hint of what's to come, then
we're all going to be super excited about that. Let's
talk about their other young gun that you mentioned already,
and that's Cutter Gotier. It was a pretty good rookie
season for Gotier. He played all eighty two games after
getting in one game last season. He play had forty
three points. He also averaged three point seven to seven
bash per game. That's something we like to look at
that combines block shots and hits, so overall pretty decent
peripheral contributions when he's not scoring. He also looks a
bit like McTavish in the sense that his offense was
really high seventy fifth percentile, which is great, that's fantastic
for your first year in the league. His expected and
actual goal contributions were really high. His defense though, twenty
third percent. I also actually hire the mctaverish, but still
really low. So what did you think of cutter season
and what do you think we can expect from him
next season?
Speaker 5: That Derek, Yeah, like I mentioned before, he got off
to a slow start, but I think once he got
to see under I mean, it's really hard transitioning from
the college game straight to the pros. So he got
the one game in last year, but it was the
very last game of the season. I had a whole
entire offseason work on things. And also he was playing wing,
which is an opposition that he played in college. He
was primarily a center in college, so that was something
he had to adjust to I think a little bit
in the same way it was Zeus. I think he
had to learn a little bit of the defensive aspects
of the game.
Speaker 4: I think that's what bogged him down a little bit.
Speaker 5: I think Cronin wasn't really happy with the way that
he was setting himself up defensively, so he went down
on the fourth line a little bit, try to work
on those habits. And once he got back up there
and he was playing with McTavish and Robbie Fabry for
of I think December to February, and they were clicking
a little bit. And then once Fabric went down in
February is when he got elevated to play with Carlson
and Klorin, and I think at that point that's when
things started clicking for him. He wasn't a regular on
the power play, which I'm unsure about. I don't know
why he wasn't really part of that. He probably has
the best shot on the team, like he's a lethal sniper.
He had, however, many goals in college last year or
the year before forty or whatnot, And I think having
a weapon like that not on your power play, that's
just a little confusing for me. But if you have
him on the power play like he played on the
penalty kill a little bit down the stretch, like you mentioned,
he uses, he's great for bash. If you asked me
who the third leading shot blocker among forwards on the
Ducks last season was, I probably wouldn't have guest Cutter
Groce right, just because of how offensively inclined he is.
But yeah, it's a great for him that he played
all eighty two games. That's really hard to do in
this league, especially at such a young age, so I
think the sky's the limit for him. He got to
twenty goals, four points. That's pretty impressive concerning the start
that he has. I'm looking forward to seeing how he
does next season.
Speaker 3: One more forward, Sam Colangelo. He is he split his
year between Anaheim and San Diego. Reasonable offensive impact for
a depth role, although only twelve to twenty nine makes
those twelve points. It leaves him with twelve points and
thirty two games, which doesn't look as impressive if he'd
played a larger role, perhaps that had come up a bit.
His defense showed as in line with his team at least,
and he threw two hits a game, which we love.
He missed a few games due to injury during his
time at the Big club as well, so he's twenty
three years old. He's still trying to catch on it
seems with the team or really hold on to a
permanent role. But is Colangelo somebody that we're going to
expect is going to gel maybe someday get like a
fiftieth point breakout with a full season, or is this
a depth guy that you'll be watching closer watching those
Anaheim games every night than maybe the fantasy players and
people following from afar the most relevant players on the team.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe, Like I said before, if you have guys like
the Toronto Stroman third line, I think maybe you can
plug in a guy like sam Plando there. He played
I think it was one or two games with them,
and he scored the only goal for the team. He
got a little bit of power play time down the stretch.
He's really great in front of the net. He had
a couple of nice redirection goals. I think that's something
that Cronin had really valued his guys going to the
net and causing chaos, and I think Kalando did a
really good job of that. He's a pretty big guy.
He's pretty hard to move off the pucke. I think
he'd like he would say that he still needs to
work on his skating a little bit. He can't really
be coasting around the zone just because of how big
he is, how strong he is. I think he'd like
to create a little bit more with his feet and
create a little bit more separation with his speed mobility.
I think when he was playing with Zegris and mctavis,
I think that was a pretty solid line. I'm not
sure where they're going to go now, just because you
have to look at whether it's Chris is a center
or a winger, and they have a lot of centers.
But I think Clangel I think, especially next season, he
should be up with the club full time. You had
a really great season down in the AHL with San Diego.
He was an HL All Star, but I think at
this point you have to see what you have from him,
and the depth options below him were not great, and
so just the fact that he got twelve points and
thirty two games, and a lot of that came towards
the end of the season. I think he had five
games in a row with the goal. Obviously, you want
to have that kind of offensive ceiling in your top nine,
your bottom six, whatever you want to call it, because
not every night your top six is going to be clicking.
So you need that contribution from your depth forwards, especially
if you want to be a playoff team, because that's
how good teams go deep in the playoffs as they
get production from their depth guys like you look at
last night. We're recording this on April thirtieth. Last night,
the Vegas Golden Knights got their overtime winner for Brett Howden,
who plays on their fourth line. So you can get
contributions from like that, from players way down in your lineup,
you're going to go pretty far. So I think if
Colangelo can settle into that top nine role and maybe
you elevate him in the top six when things aren't
going so well, I think that's a really good role
for him.
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, we're going to switch over to the
defense now, and we're going to start, maybe surprisingly to
some with Jackson Lacombe. I can't tell you how impressed
I was with Jackson m the comb season, but I'm
going to try so. His forty seven point pace was
certainly impressive, but a couple of a couple that with
twenty two to eighteen time on ice and two eight
on the power play. I did not see that amount
of time on ice coming. I also didn't see him
leading the defense in points we're talking about. We were
talking about Minchika versus Zellweger in terms of who might
lead them, and it was Lacomb all along. I also
looked a little deeper, and I wanted to see how
good he was compared to all the other defenders in
the league. And according to a hockey of all defenders
who played as much time as Lacombe, only twenty in
the entire league had a better expected goal differential. And
they're all pretty much the all stars you would expect,
Adam Fox, Dahlen, Wrensky, Cider Morrissey, and then some guys
sprinkled in there like Fords, Lane, Gavrikov, McNabb, Quinn Hughes,
John Carlson, Kill mccarr, Jacob Slave and all of these guys,
Evan Bouchard, and then you have Jackson Lacomb. That's a
pretty exclusive list to be a part of. His offensive
and defensive impacts were both equally impressive, especially for such
a young defender in his career. I don't know, Derek,
I think you might have to talk me down the
ledge here in terms of how excited we all are
about Lacombe at point pace, it seems like maybe he
could even go higher. He was just so impressive this year.
Tell me where you think he goes from here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's out of the question that
you could see a fifty point season from like he
came up just shy of that.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of that has to do with
how much ice time he got.
Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, he's pretty much the Duck's top defenseman
in terms of production and ice time this season, playing
alongside Captain Radco Dudas.
Speaker 4: But he got power play time, he got penalty kill.
Speaker 5: Time, like basically any situation where they needed a goal
or they had to defend a lead, like Lacolm was
out there.
Speaker 4: He was the jack of all trades.
Speaker 5: And I think he was really interesting because to start
the season he was sick a little bit. He didn't
play in the first game this season, and then he
was just in and out of the lineup a little
bit while they were working through some things, some defensive
rotations with zel Lager and Mi Chicav and Cam Fowler
was still there, so they had a logjam a little bit.
But once Fowler got traded to Saint Louis there is
basically Okay, here's the rains and go and take it,
and he took it. But it'll be interesting to see
where they go next season, just because zell Wiger and
Michicag were rotating for a regular playing spot in the lineup,
and I think it should be where it's Lao, Michicab's
Alger doesn't have to be in that order, but that's
three guys on the left side next season, I would imagine,
So it'll be interesting to see where they.
Speaker 4: Go from there.
Speaker 5: In terms of power play time and whatnot. I think
Lacomb is a capable power play guy.
Speaker 4: He was is funny.
Speaker 5: Greg Cronin always told the story about how at Minnesota
I keep playing with Brock Favor Lacombe did, and Favor
wasn't the number one power play guy, it was the
comb So he definitely has the offensive capabilities. Again, a
lot of this kind of revolves around who the next
head coach that the Ducks is going to be and
how he plans to utilize these guys. But I don't
think it's out of the question that that's just the
way that lacomb played this past season. He definitely can
take things to a newer height.
Speaker 3: We're going to keep hammering on some of the guys
you just mentioned, because, my good I remember back and
I don't know why this is lacked in my mind,
but in around twenty sixteen seventeen, the Ducks were just
loaded with relevant defenseman Cam Fowler. That he was the
last one to last on this team, but at that
time the team had Fowlers, Sammy Vatinan Lindholm, Josh Manson,
Shay Theodore, Brandon montor even Kevin Biexo was there. It
was just there were all these defensemen who went on
to have pretty good careers, and it feels like right
now they're loaded with names. But my goodness, Olin Zelweger,
maybe we fantasy types just got our hopes too high
about what gibs. He has not yet really jumped into
the status of a top tier defenseman.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: To be fair, he's twenty one years old and come
in into the season, he had twenty six career NHL
games played, so we ought to have reasonable expectations and
defense is not a quick position to learn. He also
had reasonable even strength defensive impact in this team context
this year. If you look at some of the advanced stats,
so he was not a SIEV. He has the disadvantage
of being the shortest of these three left shots that
you're talking about going out with the team. So really,
in the fact that he was decent on defense isn't
bad and he does take two shots a game the
most of these three players. Where is Zelweger going to
settle out? And is there a chance we could get
a power play one sixty point season at some point, Derek,
or do I need to give up on those dreams?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say sixty points, that's pretty tough or even
I'd say even for the comb they get to right now.
Just because they have so many young promising guys on
the team, they can distribute those minutes pretty even. The
I'd say, but maybe forty points. It just depends on
the role that he fills next season. This past season
he was in and out of the lineup. It was
a little bit of a rotation between him and Minchikov.
They had Brian Doomwin for a little bit. He came
in this past summer as a veteran option, so they
had a lot of left handed options, and even when
cam Faler was traded to the Blues and they brought
Jacob Truman, so that logjam continued, and then you had
Drew Helson that came up from the HL, So they
had all these kind of moving parts, and for whatever reason,
Minschikov and z Elier they got the short end of
the stick, so they were rotating for a little bit.
And then when trade deadline came around and doom Win
was shipped out to New Jersey was when things opened
up a little bit more. So you had Lacomb, Minchikov
and Zelweger on the left side. But even at the
very end it was weird like they had Cronin and
Verbeek had talked about how there's this affinity for a
left side right side pairing having three lefties, three varieties,
and it seemed like they went away from that at
the end when Ian Moore came up from the AHL.
They had their playing right handed guys on the off
side for the last two to three games.
Speaker 4: So obviously that wasn't the issue. So I don't know
why they.
Speaker 5: Yo yo Minchikov and Zelig around and have Verbeek spoke
after the trade deadline about how difficult that had been
on those two players and how I'm getting pulled out
of the lineup, So why am I playing bad?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 5: And sometimes it was just oh, that's just what we're doing.
So I can imagine how confusing that is for a
young player, especially when you're trying to make an impact
at the top level. As of right now, it looks
like it's going to be those three guys lacom Minchikov,
Zelwegger on the left side heading into next season.
Speaker 4: Again like it's eating a dead horse.
Speaker 5: But it just depends on who the next head coach is,
how they plan to utilize that ice time because there's
only so many spots on the power play and it's
very rare in this day and age to see three
defenseman on the power play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I have high hopes for those three guys.
Speaker 5: Like they have demonstrated that they have the capability to
be top players in this league.
Speaker 3: Just as a follow up there, do you think it
was Cronan who was doing this or is the decision
of who to call up and that type of thing
A lot of that has to do with general manager too.
You think it was Cronan who was making the decision
to keep these guys cycled out? Of a lineup.
Speaker 4: I honestly have no idea.
Speaker 5: He asked the coach about it, and he gives you
the responses, and sometimes that's the response you're not expecting
to hear. But I think for the most part, it
was just that they wanted to have that lefty righty
pairing because Drew Helson played so many games down the stretch.
I think there was one point where he had been
scratched for I think six or seven games in a
row in December, and then he finally came back into
the lineup, and it felt like he never came out.
And that's not a slight to Drew Hollison. He's a
capable player, but I think there was points where he
probably shouldn't have been in the lineup as regularly as
he was, and they just used the lefty righty pairings
as an excuse. And hopefully it'll be a little bit
better next season, I would imagine, But it was just
a really interesting kind of storyline to follow throughout the season.
Speaker 3: The third of the three, Pavel Minchikoff, he seems to
have in the past. He definitely seemed to have passed
up Zelwegger as a prospect, as he was coming up,
but then Jackson Lacombe swept right by both of them,
as we mentioned. But back to Minchikov, the former number
ten overall pick in his second year saw his points
declined by a third in roughly the same number of
total minutes. In advanced stats, he had the worst impact
on defense at five on five. That was not Robbie
for Brie on this team. If you look at some
of those charts, now he takes a shot, he throws
a hit, and he makes a block once per game
when he's out there again, young still growing, came off
Calder votes for his rookie year, but down to brass tax.
I know, I don't want to mayn repeat. It's just uncertain.
It depends on the rules. But what did you think
of Minchikov when you did see him out there last year?
And what do you think he's able to do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's pretty tough to have an impact
production wise when you don't get any special teams time,
which he didn't. He lost power playtime to Lacombe and
zel Leger, and he wasn't killing penalties. It was actually
Hellison who is the one killing penalties with Jacob Truba
and Goudis and Lacomb. It's hard to make an impact
when you're basically playing bottom pair of minutes, and that's
what he was doing for the most part. It was
really interesting though, because at the beginning of the season
he was playing with Brian Doom when they had worked
pretty well, and then for some reason they just went
away from that. And like I said before, having Zelwegger
and in Chicav rotating and now the lineup. I think
part of that as just when you're playing and you
don't know if you're going to be in the next
game or not, you don't want to make a mistake.
Speaker 4: You don't want to take a risk because if.
Speaker 5: Something happens then that comes back to bite you thought
I might not be in the lineup next game, so
maybe I don't want to do that. And obviously people
will say they're professionals, like you just have to play
like your style and if that's not how it works,
and that's not how it works, but that's not always
how it works either. If somebody's breathing down your neck
and you get pulled out the lineup, like I said,
for no reason, or at least in your mind, you
see as not a good reason, then you tend to
play a little bit more conservatively because you just want
to stay in the lineup every game. So I think
next season they'll be able to have that freedom a
little bit more. They're both pretty young still in Chicag's
all where they're twenty one. They'll be twenty two by
the end of next season, so not a lot of
guys are bar five superstars by age twenty two, especially
as a defenseman. But I'm really looking forward to seeing
how they playing a little bit more, not a less
high pressure rope, but just not having that uncertainty of
a you're coming out of lineup for no reason at all,
just because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, if the young the lefties in this blue
line are these young whipper snappers coming up and we're
waiting to see the potential the right the right shots
are a couple of grizzled vets at this point and
a completely different deal. We're gonna mention them together. I
don't even know if colin her to pick them between
him makes any sense. Neither one of them has scores points.
Both of them have massive bash it hits and blocks
for days from Radko Gudash and Jacob Truba. They come
in on a different trajectory. Gudash seems to have finally
maybe settled into a home. He got to be the
captain last year, which was a big deal. I'm not
sure that being a captain on a team that wasn't
very successful, I'm not sure if that's a good thing
or a bad thing. Gudash and Truba are both on
expiring deals this year. Truba, of course, came over as
the result of kind of a messy professional divorce, I
would say with the New York Rangers, and the found
a role although not enormous production with the Ducks. What
do you make of these two and do you see
either of them having a different type of impact or
sticking with the team for the long term.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean you look at them. They're cut
from the same cloth or they're very physical. They block
a lot of shots, they get a lot of hits.
Like you mentioned, they both have pretty lethal shots in
terms of power, maybe not such an accuracy, but they
both play a very similar style of game. I think
that's the way that Pat for Beek wants this team
to play. Is a very physical, very in your face.
Brad Coogois like credits in and being the I think
he was the sixth captain, six check captain. Ever, like
he did not have a great season. I think it
was a really big step back from last season from
twenty twenty three to twenty four, when Jackson Lecoma's rookie.
Really I feel like he really helped stabilize lac Home
as a rookie and all of that just went out
the window for whatever reason this past season. I think
there is just a lot of mental errors. There are
a lot of times where he went out of his
way to make a hit that he didn't have to
make and that would open up blow defensive coverages and whatnot.
There's been rumors from the Czech media that he's going
to miss the world and he's gone undergoing surgery, and
that's something that the Ducks have refuted and pushed back
on some. I'm interested to see how that kind of
turns out. But Truba, you know, like he's the same
way he blocks. I think he blocked the most shots
in the league this year, So he's definitely a guy
that they depend on in a lot of defensive situations,
especially high leverage defensive situations. I think, like you don't
bring in somebody like Truba if you're just planning to
let him walk in free agency the very next year.
So whether that's an extension or maybe they flip him
to a contender the next year. So myon is that
he probably gets an extension just because they don't have
a lot of options on the right side behind him
and Hellison. Like Tristan Luau had a great year in
the HL, He'll probably be a regular next season. I
think he needs to be a regular next season, depending
on where they see that. Maybe they move on from
Duddas after the end of next season and you have Truba, Hellison,
Luno and also Ian More like I mentioned before, is
another option that they have. I mean, and you're looking
at players that get a lot of hits, get a
lot of block shots like Duddas and Truebar are your guys,
especially because they play so much on pm'll be kill
But yeah, don't expect anything offensive from them for the
most part.
Speaker 2: Good enough. Let's move over to the goalies now. The
Ducks were ranked thirty second and expected goals against for sixty,
but conceded only the twentieth ranked actual goals per game.
Doesn't take too much thought there to realize that the
goalies were a big part of the positive end there
for the Ducks. They were both above what they were
expected do. Shtall saved sixteen point four to three goals
save above expected at even strength and Gibson at thirteen
point five to six. Both were very good. Doshall ended
up playing almost double the amount of games that Gibson
did and was really good in those games. The protection
that he got was actually a little bit below average
in terms of his expected Fenwick save percentage, and he
pretty dramatically outperformed that both at even strength and on
the power play. Gibson had a little bit better protection
and he did really well with that at even strength.
On the power play, he was a little not as good. Derek,
where do you think we go next season? We're still
going to have a similar split where Dostal carries the
main part of the load, and we've been talking about
potential trades with Gibson forever and it just hasn't happened.
So I feel like maybe it's just not going to happen.
But you let me know if you feel differently on that.
What are we going to see from the Ducks goalies
next season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would imagine, especially just because the summer that
Dostaal's restricted free agent, like he's going to get a
long term deal. I don't know how long and how much,
but you look at kind of the deals that have
been signed recently, Logan Thompson, Mackenzie Blackwood, I think dos
Stall is probably going to get something in that range
just because of how much younger he is than those guys.
He's shown a little bit in the time that he's
had at the NHL that he's capable of being that
number one guy. I think next season will really be telling.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 5: He had to play a lot to start the season,
and I think he started like the first twelve of
thirteen games because Gibson was recovering from an appendectomy. But
I think the way that they wanted it to be
split up this season or this past season was having
a fifty to fifty and then maybe whoever's playing better
gets a little bit more of the line share. But
Gibson is he just picks up these little knicks, and
unfortunately he was out for a little bit with various injuries,
so that led to Dostaal playing a little bit more
than maybe they anticipated him. But he did pretty well
for the most part. I think, like I said before,
if it wasn't for the goaltend, they'd probably be competing
with the Sharks and the Blackhawks for the top overall pick.
I think offensively it should be they should be able
to improve the next season and hopefully that will take
a little bit more of a load off of Dose
Staal and Gibson. And as for trade, and it's been
something I feel has been talked about for several years
with Gibson, and I don't think they don't really have
a need to trade him. Like the way they have
the situation set up is fine. They don't really have
an option right now in the HL that can come
up and help spell Dostall. Maybe in the event of
the Gibson trade, they just go out and get a
veteran from free agency. But right now, I think it's
just about Gibbson proving that he can be healthy for
a prolonged amount of time. Before the season, he had
been injury wise, and I just picked up some unfortunate injuries.
I think a lot of it was just not really
as it was out of his control. I think one
of them he got ran into by Drew O'Connor, and
then another one he ran into again by another player.
You can't really call that, but I think going into
the next season having jis Dan Gibson as your tenem
again isn't a bad thing at all.
Speaker 2: It certainly not as they performed this year. Yeah, great stuff, Derek.
We really appreciate you spend the time talking to us.
Do you want to tell everyone where to follow all
your great work on the Anaheim Ducks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go on Twitter or ex whatever you
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They go to the Anaheim Ducks page. Me and my
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that you want to know about the Ducks is on there.
So those are the two kind of main places that
you can find my stuff at.
Speaker 2: Fantastic and we definitely encourage you all to do that.
Derek's great resource for all things Ducks. And thank you
so much and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, right.
Speaker 3: Will Since then that's good?
Speaker 1: Fired, past off, Oh my goodness, wrong with a cat
quick crap.
Speaker 3: Now it's your weekly goalie talk with Kat Silverman, Kat's Instincts.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman of n
Gold mag. We're talking Anaheim Duck goalies and to do that,
we're going to start off with one of the more
interesting prospect goalies, I would say, especially in terms of nationality,
the Italian Damien Clara. He was drafted sixtieth overall by
the Ducks back in twenty twenty three, and after helping
brin Us get promoted to the SHL last season, he
bounced around from the J twenty with Ferdistad to the
HL with the goals, and then the SHL well with Varjistad,
then the Liga in Carpot, so he's been all over
the place. His numbers reveal a big a bit of
the chaos I would say that he experienced. They weren't
great except for Carpot and when he was with Italy internationally.
But the other stints were hit and miss, but there
was a lot of variety there. Looking at his hockey prospecting,
he's up to a forty six percent chance of being
a star and got a bunch of reasonable comps. One
that he looks a little bit right now is Nikolai Habibullin,
who is a pretty good player. Kah, what do you
think about Clara?
Speaker 6: I think he's a lot of fun to watch going
through because it was a lot of fun going through
all of his different going through clips from every league
he's played in.
Speaker 7: Because he does he's been bouncing around a lot.
Speaker 6: You can see it in his game, but not necessarily
in a way that makes you worry, Like he doesn't
seem to be second guessing his saves, he doesn't seem
to be getting a little too active with his rebounds.
He's just a little aggressive with his positioning right now,
which is perfectly understandable because he's moving between different play styles,
different rink sizes, different overall methods of play, so he
was staying a little far out of the crease and
just about every clip I saw, which made me feel
a little antsy watching him, but he tracks the puck
really well, and even though he was playing a little aggressively,
he was still doing a good job of recovering correctly.
He wasn't sending the puck back out into play too frequently.
Some of the other guys within the system were a
little bouncier when it came to that, So I enjoyed
watching everything I saw from him.
Speaker 7: I'd love to.
Speaker 6: See him spend an entire season just with the goals, maybe,
which unfortunately, I do think that the Ducks are at
the point where they have a wealth of riches there
when it comes to their prospects, which cannot be said
about every team in the league right now, so I
do think that they're probably going to have to do
some shuffling if he manages to be one of the
goalies that sticks with them after this offseason, though, I'd
love to see what he can do. The goals are
a lot of fun to watch, so I think getting
to see him over a consistent season with them would
be fun.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's the best go Ducks prospect in
the system right now?
Speaker 7: That's really tough to say, because they do have a.
Speaker 6: They've at least one guy Thomas Snick, who missed the
entire season with a knee injury, who is someone who
I had really wanted to watch, and Vielov Boutillettes is
also a lot of fun to watch, but I don't
think it's quite as good as Damian Clara is, and
obviously Cali Klang is a I would say probably still
their de facto top prospect. But I would say that
if we see a really consistent North American season from Clara,
he could easily flip flop in the rankings there. But
I do think that we would need to see what
he can do over an entire season, because sometimes that
adrenaline from playing through the chaos can almost booy a player,
and then when you settle them down, some of the
holes in their game become a little more apparent. So
I think we could see it go either way for him.
But I enjoyed what I saw, and I think if
he's not even if he's not their clear top prospect,
he's I would say he's one of their blue.
Speaker 7: Chip for sure.
Speaker 4: All Right.
Speaker 2: I did jump ahead a little bit because I was
wondering about that, and he certainly has a lot of
potential let's move over to Keli Klang. You did mention
him already, and yeah, he was acquired from Pittsburgh a
couple of years ago. Even though he may be their
de facto top prospect right now. As you mentioned, he
has trended down the last couple of seasons in terms
of his save percentage. He was up at nine oh
four a couple of seasons ago in the AHL and
a small sample size, and eight ninety seven last season,
and then down to eight ninety five this season with
a heavier workload thirty two thirty one games these last
two seasons in AHL, even though his GAA was a
little bit better. He's also injured now. But in terms
of his ultimate upside and how you see him, what
have you seen from him in his progression? Where do
you think he's at?
Speaker 6: I feel like, obviously I never want to see a
player injured, but I'm almost glad that he's getting a
little bit of a hard reset here because it looked
like over the more and more recent the games were
that I saw him in, it seemed like the teams
were starting to figure him out a little bit, and
they were figuring out he's a very sort of rhythm
based goal He really moves fluidly. He does a good
job of staying on his feet, and when he does
drop to his knees, he moves really smoothly. But it
seems like teams figured out that he does like to
move back and forth, and we're figuring out that pattern
to his movement and we're picking apart some of the
holes in his game and making him look a little
more sort of stuttery in terms of how he was playing.
So I'd love to see if after an off season
of rest, recovery, healing, getting a chance to just reset
his game with a coach, if we can see him
put together how crisply he moves with adding a little
bit of unpredictability into his game. And I think he's
one of the goalies in the past that we've talked
about needing just a little bit more sort of creativity
to his game to really give him that extra edge
against some of the more talented shooters, and it seems
like that is the case as of right now. So
hopefully he'll figure that out, But as of right now,
I'd say that's the big thing stopping him from.
Speaker 7: Easily moving up to the NHL level.
Speaker 6: Other than the fact that the Ducks currently have I
would argue one of the two best rookie goalies in
the league right now.
Speaker 2: It definitely seems to me like Anaheim knows how to
do goalies. Do you think Klang still has like one
A upside, like starter upside one B. Where do you
think he realistically tops out?
Speaker 7: I'd say probably one A one B.
Speaker 6: I don't think if we're looking at him in the
vacuum of their system, I don't think he has more
upside than Lucas Doshdall has, So I think that automatically
just shunts him down to being a one B at
best within what they have. I think for other teams,
if he cleans up his game a little bit, he
could have starter upside for them, But I don't think
he has quite enough spark in his game to put
him up on the same tier as Doshdall.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Lenny of doshtell Love here to go around, So
no problem with that on my end, But that makes
sense if we go somewhere else, he could be maybe
a week starter or one A. That seems reasonable to me.
Let's move over to the next Guylav Bhutitz. He's a
twenty twenty two six round pick six, four hundred and
eighty five pounds, came to North America. Mostly played in
the ECCHL. This past season. Did have some pretty good
numbers for Tulsa the Tulsa Oilers. He played a couple
of games for the San Diego Goals. It didn't go
particularly well, but small sample size and it was good
for him to get a lot of games consistently with
one team, I would imagine. So what do you think
about Boutitz.
Speaker 6: I really like his positioning. I think he has a
lot of work to do with his actual game technique.
His game perfectly suited for the COCHL, which is not
to say that I think that's where he belongs permanently.
But he does a really good job of not getting
too aggressive, not coming out to challenge too much when
he gets nervous. But his rebound control was not the
best of the goalies that I have watched recently. To
put it as nicely as possible, he doesn't seem to
have a good handle on tracking his releases either. So
against ETHCHL players, when you know you're not able to
see quite as much creativity from the shooters, you're not
going to see those second and third shots that are
quite as quality as the first one.
Speaker 7: That's totally fine.
Speaker 6: That is where he got picked apart during his brief
stints in the AHL, though, so I think that's something
that can be cleaned up. Because his overall positioning instinct
and his tracking looked pretty good too. That's the stuff
that takes a lot more time and risk to improve
within a player's game. But the nitty gritty of his
game is what he still needs to clean up. I
would say, far more than any of the other goalies
within their system. I think he could have a really
high upside, but right now he has probably the most
work to do of I would say their top four
goalie prospects there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. And the last guy that we're
going to talk about. You mentioned him when I oppose
you that general question, but Thomas Ukanik. Unfortunately, we didn't
really get to see much from him because he was
pretty much injured all season, which was disappointing because we
were looking forward to seeing a second strong HL season
from him. But I'm not sure if we learned anything differently,
but any news on the injury or what we can
expect from him next season and where he fits in
this pecking order.
Speaker 7: No news that I've seen that changes anything.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 6: I do think that because he was out with a
knee injury, that's going to make things really tricky because
he is so based on his timing and rhythm, and
sometimes when you see the soft tissue injuries to knees hips, goaltenders.
Speaker 7: End up moving a little bit slower.
Speaker 6: You see them favoring one side or another, and when
they're so based on rhythm like he is, that can
create a really slow curve to getting back to where
they were. Just thinking about some of the NHL's goaltenders
who have dealt with a lot of those types of
injuries and played that style of game like Anti Rontin,
Peter Morazak or two that I think of who sometimes
take a really long time to come back from.
Speaker 7: Some of those knee and hip injuries.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's a really fun one to watch
when he's healthy, and like I said, I think he
probably sits ahead of Bouttes in terms of quality in
the pecking order, but I don't know how long it's
going to take him to get back to where he was.
And like we've mentioned, they have a lot of good
goalies in their system. It's not like we're looking at
a quartette of twenty eight year old free agents that
they signed to minor league deals as their goalie prospects.
They have a ton of really quality, high end goaltending prospects,
and they have a very good young goaltender at the
NHL level already, so it's not like they need to
move anyone up immediately, and that kind of creats what
could become a log jam. We might end up seeing
him playing in the EHL next year just to get
his feet under him, or seeing him play in limited starts,
which normally we'd want to see someone really getting a
ton of starts to get themselves back in the swing
of things. I think if he is trying to regain
strength and confidence with lateral movement almost giving him more
time to work on the rehabit pt and strength building
side of things, and then getting a few starts here
and there as he builds back into it, it might
even be the better way to go.
Speaker 7: So we might not see as much of him next
year either. That being said, there are a lot of
teams that have.
Speaker 6: No goaltenders in their system looking at Philadelphia, so if
there is a summer to potentially deal away one of
their closer to being ready prospect, this would be that summer,
so he could end up with a spot a little
bit sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really funny. It's like my student. Sometimes the
ones that need to do the extra work or have
more of a buffer for their grade are not the
ones that do it. It's the ones that are already
doing well. And the Ducks have a great one of
the best, great young goalies, and they don't need all
these great prospects, but they have them anyways, have.
Speaker 6: All this extra credit they've done just sitting in the
It works for me. We get to go to the
HL games all the time. They're here in San Diego
with us, so I'm not complaining about the quality of
goaltending I get to see on a regular basis.
Speaker 7: But I think the other teams probably are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you're right. Probably a good time
to leverage that and trade for something else because the
Ducks do want to make the playoffs next year and
they can do it. Yeah, thank you for giving us
your instincts on the Anaheim Ducks goalies cut you are welcome.
Speaker 3: We'll be back right after this Dynasty day, Victor, we
are here to talk about the Ducks. And even though
the success was not on the ice this year, there
are some heavy hitters in today's segment. Those heavy hitters
start out with your no brainer. Who is a Victor.
Speaker 2: No brainer for the Ducks is gonna be Beckett Seneke
twenty twenty four, third overall pick, to the very big
surprise of him, as we've all seen on the video,
six four hundred ninety four pounds, thirty six goals, fifty
six and eighty six points in fifty six games for
ohl Oshawa this year, who was, ifire recall correctly, is
back in the Ohl finals with London. Should be fun
if you're following along all right at this point, it
might have already been over. But fantastic season in his
Draft plus one season, he exceeded his point totals from
last year in far fewer games, always with you want
to see and so far two points per game in
the playoffs. He had a pretty great playoffs last year
and good end of the season, and this year it's gone.
It's gone above and beyond. That's what you want to see.
So I'd love to see that for Beckett. Looking at
his player card from Mitch Brown, his overall score ninety nine,
offense ninety eight, transition ninety seven, defense seventy two. Pretty fantastic,
though overall numbers is expected goals really high, two standard
deviations above expected primary assists is like top two point
five percent of the league. Great stuff. His transition, good
controlled entries and exits for the most part. He also
has some pretty good defensive plays, board battles, off puck assists,
all that kind of stuff. Basically, he's killing it in
the OHL. The only thing that's slightly not excellent but
really good is the defensive play, So the corsey against
and some of the retrievals maybe a little bit not
quite as good, but overall hard to complain. If you
look at my FHL player card, you can see I
have him at a seven point five to fifty two
percent chance being a seven out of ten, which is
a pretty high mark there. His goals assist points all
one hundred percent tile and shots in the OHL hits
seventieth percentile and blocks thirtieth percentile. Overall, his bash mostly
driven by the shots, but pretty good for hits ninetieth percentile,
So you love to see that pretty high peripheral floor
and pretty high point ceiling. That's a pretty good foundation
in Jesse. But we're gonna hear a little more about
Seneca from OURFHL scout.
Speaker 3: We share our Victor and FHL scout. Jeremy is on
the case here. Seneca's skating sneaky good. Not the fastest,
but not slow either. More importantly, though, his edgework is impressive.
He reminds Jeremy a bit of Sidney Crosby the way
he likes to stop and go with the puck and
use mohawk turns to open up his hits and create
passing lanes. As a bigger body, this edgework will allow
him to operate in tight spaces in corners and behind
the net passing and handling. That's the strongest part of
Seneca's game. Per Jeremy, He's got high end stick handling
and crisp passing combined with his edgework. In his size,
he's going to be a pain to take the puck
off of. If anything, he's overconfident in his stick handling
and holds the puck too long looking for the perfect
pass shooting. Seneca is not a big shooter. He does
average four plus shots per game in the OHL, but
he's not a guy you're anticipating a good chance from
when the puck is on his stick. Almost all of
his goals this year from below the dots, and despite
seeing him at the point on the power play, some
he didn't see any one time or attempts. He definitely
prefers to pass then shoot, IQ and envision. Jeremy didn't
love what he's seen from the hockey IQ. He holds
the puck a bit too long at times and often
just floats on defense and Jeremy fields if he were
a bit more aggressive getting himself into good positions, he'd
be a much more effective player for checking for the
most part, coming in as the second or third man
high in the games, so Jeremy I didn't see as
much for checking as he'd expect from someone of Seneca's size.
Defense needs some work. He was definitely more of a
passenger in the zone and often flewid early looking for
a stretch pass as a winger, though that concerns Jeremy
a lot less than if you were a center. Like
many top prospects start out, so the best assets is
sticking in ling and passing the biggest concern. He can
seem disengaged in time, like he's going through the motions.
Top tier potential first line winger, but not necessarily elite justification.
He's got a nice, complimentary skill set, but Jeremy just
doesn't see him driving his own offense in the NHL.
As a secondary piece, he'll make the guys around him
better fiftieth percent time median outcome would be a middle
six winger.
Speaker 2: Justification.
Speaker 3: If the stick skill doesn't translate to the NHL, Jeremy
worries he won't be effective enough to be a true
scoring line player. Thinks he's got enough skills to make
and stay in lineups for a career. Though stylistic comparables
Dylan Strom and every final thought, he was less impressed
than expected to be given the stat line and pedigree.
He's a good player, but Jeremy doesn't see the same
superstar potential most top five picks flash. So that was
Jeremy's take, and thank you for that, our friend. The
NHL rank King, the Lord Stanley Tidy Ultimate Champion Mason
Black sent out the poll Beckett Seneca versus Tidjiginla out
there on x two first rounders from last year's draft.
Seneca wins in a landslide sixty four to thirty six percent, Victor.
Is that how you rank them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really tough one between these two.
Obviously you both really like these players. One thing you've
seen from Ben Beckett is increasing that scoring. Tij I
think there's just a big unknown still because he missed
most of this season with an injury that sounds like
there was a hip problem and surgery was expected to
miss the rest of the season back in December twenty
twenty four, So we didn't really get to see that
much from TJ, and so I think that's a bit
of the concern here. I still feel like the upside
is higher with Aginla and so I think I'm gonna
take Tea, even though there's a bit more of an
unknown with him because we didn't see as much this season.
But I really like both these players. I would be happy. Frankly,
I probably wouldn't make this swap. If I had Beckett
and someone offered me Tej, I would probably just hold.
But if you're asking me to choose between the two,
I think I do prefer Teach. I think there's a
little bit of a higher upside there. There's a little
bit of concern with the hip injury, but there is
such a tantalizing upside there. The kid's a gamer with
his dad and the bloodline, so I love to see
that his pnhle still remains a little bit higher, even
though he missed a lot of this season. If you
just go out from what he's produced so far in
his limited twenty one games, the player card for Mitch
Brown for teach Againla was one hundred percent, one hundred
for off, that's one hundred for transition, ninety four for defense.
So if you just want to compare those player cards,
it does have Tea's just a little bit higher. I
actually had my ranking, which I need to update, as
a little bit lower for again La seven point one seven.
Part of that is just baked in the the injury
question marks, but I do think that the upside is
maybe a little bit higher there. If you look at
the hockey prospecting between these two, both kind of trended
down a little bit after a pretty modest draft season
in terms of their potential, but again Las went down
a little bit less, and so he's still at thirteen
percent Seneca at nine percent, both pretty high in the
sixties at NHL or probability, so they're really close to
one another. I think I'm taking again La though in
a by a hair by I nose. Looking at the
some other comps for Beckett Seneke, there's a bunch of
reasonable ones. I think one that probably makes sense is
Matthew NY's. He has this kind of Simil trajectory in
terms of the star potential, and he's turned out to
pretty pretty solid player and really good complimentary piece to
those stars. I think he's one of those stars now
in Toronto and certainly has turned out to be quite
a playoff performer. So I think that's a good one
for Beckett's still pretty optimistic on her on him looking
at the top down hockey model with Jay Fresh Seneca
ten percent chance of being a star, forty six percent
chance of being in NHLer, So all pretty optimistic there.
Speaker 3: Jesse boy again, law, what a tees that guy is.
But I'm bomb Victor. Who's next is your need to
know prospect?
Speaker 2: Next guy on the list is going to be Sasha
Pastajov twenty twenty one, third round pick, sixty six overall,
six foot one hundred and eighty seven pounds. He had
an interesting season this year, so he had forty five
points and forty three HL games. He also spent some
time with the Tulsa Oilers in the ECHL where he
had sixteen points in twelve games, so overall it was
pretty successful, looking pretty good, especially with that HL time.
Last year he was in the AHL and had twenty
three points in forty six games, so half point per
game is not bad, but this was a huge improvement,
going over a point per game, So that shoots his
optimism right back up, and so we're pretty excited to
see that. My FHL player card is still a little
bit OPTI pessimistic on him. I would say four point
five four is what I had him at. Yeah, his
AHL time is pretty appealing, but also he's going to
be twenty two this summer, so he's not past his
prime or anything. But most players you might expect to
be a little most players you might expect to be
a little bit more ahead of the game, ahead of
the curve there. So just a little bit worried that
he's not gonna be able to fully translate to that
to the NHL. But so far, his HL numbers have
been fantastic. His shots ten at a ten one hundred
percentile assistant points as well nighth percentile for goals. His
hits are pretty low, though, just thirtieth percentile. His blocks
though really high, so eighteighth percentile. So overall, the bash
looks pretty good for Sasha Pasta Jov. But let's hear
a little bit more about him from our HL scout.
Speaker 3: VHL scout Jeremy says about postage Jov, he is a
week skater, got a wide, lumbering stride that is more
fitting of a bigger guy. If something holds him back,
it'll be this. Past Yov is a great passer. The
puckets on and off of his stick quickly and accurately,
and a great shot. Rister is hard and accurate. He's
able to tee up a one timer from the flanks,
and if he can keep it up in the NHL,
he'll be a big scoring threat. IQ. He's got good
hockey IQ. It allows him to be in position even
if his speed isn't there for checking. Didn't see much
of that in the views that Jeremy had. Defense not great,
but passable. The big question is if he'll look lost
against NHL level competition. So the biggest asset passing and shot.
Biggest concern is the top tier outcome here, Jeremy thinks
second line scoring winger with powerplay time. That's because he's
got the shot and the skills to create offense. He
won't ever be a complete player, but may find a
spot as an offense first guy. The median outcome though
a tweeer. If the foot speed isn't there, he's not
gonna have much of a shot. The game's just getting
faster and faster. He already looks slow against ah Elers.
Stylistic comparable is the cult hero Daniel Sprung. Our friend
NHL rank King Mason Black sent out the poll, Sasha
passiof versus Issach rosen and rosen In or route sixty
one to thirty nine, Victor. Is that how you'd rank
these two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was tough. I think both these guys are
depth options that I would probably see if I could
get someone else. Quite frankly, they both have had good
HL seasons. Now this was both there. Actually this was
Versus's third season, and so it's taken him a little
bit longer to get to that production, which is always
a bit concerning. It's nice that he got there fifty
five points in sixty one games. He had fifty points
in sixty seven games last year. Sprinkle in there. He's
had fifteen NHL games where he has one assist. So overall,
that's my biggest concern between these two is that they're
a little bit Their production of the HL is good,
but typically good production when you're a little bit older
tends to translate to a modest NHL performer, not an
elite NHL performer, So that's my concern with them. I
probably would take Verssenne because he's had a little bit
more experienced there, and I think there's a little bit
more versatility. I agree with Jeremy's assessment when I have
seen passers off play the skating is the speed, it's
just a little rough, and I really worry that he's
not going to be able to hang. It's a little
less of an issue for Rosen, and I have seen
He's not the biggest guy, but I have seen him
improve his physicality and tenaciousness around the puck. So I
would go with the people here take Rossenn. I have
Rosenne as a five point sixty five. By the way,
so sixty five percent chance of being an average roster player,
which is a little bit better than Pasta Jov. The
bash will probably not be great with Roseenne though he
does shoot a fairmount, but he doesn't really hit her
block at all. At going to be tough in terms
of the holding for the peripheral floor. Looking at the
hockey prospecting between these two, Sasha Pastajov ended up with
a higher percent fifteen percent chance of being star. Wars
Enne was pretty much zero the last couple of years,
but that's partially because it was so low when he
started out. In the j twenty he has increased it
quite a bit. It just hasn't reflected in the model.
So some decent comps for Pasta Jov. There's Keith Primo
and someone who busted out, and then a reasonable comp
I would say someone like Pavelo, Dodo Fiev and put
If Dodo Fiev who's doing really well. It did really
well this season for Vegas. I think Pastor Joff could
end up being something like that, more of an offensive specialist,
maybe needing a bit of a sheltered role, but in
the right situation could really excel. Dorofiev has so that's
what we'd be hoping for. With Pastor Jov, that's a
little bit less likely just because of needing that shelter toll,
but you never know. Looking at the top down hockey model,
with Pasta Jov three percent chance of being a star
twenty four percent chance of being an NHL are so
a little bit more pessimistic there, but that's where we're
at with past Jov.
Speaker 3: Jesse very good and third to keep your eye on
prospect Victor.
Speaker 2: Keep your eye on is going to be Tristan Luno.
So Tristan Luno twenty twenty two, fifty third overall pick
for the Ducks, six to one, one hundred and ninety
four pounds, right handed d This season was a little
bit interesting. He did have some games with the big club.
He had a couple of games last year too, so
overall just thirteen NHL games and three points to go
with it. None this year, but his HL production was
pretty strong this year. He missed most of last season
and so that was something that we were really curious
about how would he bounce back. But fifty two points
and fifty nine HL games for the San Diego goals
is a pretty emphatic statement that he's back as someone
who can produce at the professional level. He hadn't really
done that yet. His last season in the QMJHL was
pretty great, but you want to see how they translate professionally,
and so far, so good. His FHL player card five
point twenty five is what I have him at, twenty
five percent chance of being an average player. I think
there's more offensive upside there, but the low percent is
just because I'm not really sure about his overall game.
His scoring was good in the AHL. His shots were
eightieth percentile, blocks or sorry, hits were seventy percentile and
blocks we fortieth. So overall the bash should be above
average around the seventieth percentile, and that's pretty decent Perferle
floor if the translate at the scoring doesn't fully translate.
But let's a little bit more about Luno. From our
VHL scout.
Speaker 3: Jeremy has this to say. They have Tristan Luno effortless skater.
Isn't particularly faster explosive, but Jeremy was impressed that I
would close the gap and handled forwards bearing down on him.
Luno's a classic transitional D capable of making crisp passes
both a transition and in zone. He's got a hard
one timer that's been able to showcase on San Diego's
power play. Jeremy didn't see many opportunities for Luno to
shoot off the rush, though IQ vision anticipation elite. Luno's
one of the more mature twenty year old defenceman Jeremy
has seen. Thinks he's better than a shutdown guy, but
worst case, he'd be very successful at that makes he
closes gaps, makes impactful plays, and makes it all look easy.
Defense great stick isn't a huge bruiser, but uses his
body positionally to box out in the corners and in
front of his own net. Also willing to block shots,
as any modern defenceman must. So the best asset was
the IQ in positioning. The biggest concern a lack of dynamism.
Jeremy thinks he's a good player, but questions how he'll
distinguish himself from the other Ducks defenseman. The top tier
outcome could be a big minute, top two defenseman with
lots of offensive impact. That's if he gets the chance
to step into an offensive role where he could really blossom.
He already showed a ton of growth in San Diego
this year, so we'll see where he ends up on
next year's chart fiftieth percent percentile outcome, the median outcome
middle pairings, shutdown defenseman because he's got a great defensive
skill set in IQ. Depending on how the Ducks other
prospects pan out, he may not be pressed into offensive
duties the way fantasy managers hope, but Jeremy could see
him being deployed similarly to how maybe most Cider has
been where they always seem to find somebody else to
run power play one stylistic comparable Devin Taates and the
final thoughts, Jeremy really wants to see him at the
NHL level next year. Obviously had a flashy season compared
to Zellweger and Mitchikov, so he thinks people will be
tempted to bump Luno ahead of those too. I don't
want to. Jeremy doesn't want to estimate understate the difference
between getting your feet wet in the NHL and playing
in the AHL. And of course Lacombe really established himself
this year too. In a perfect world, Jeremy thinks those
are the four Anaheim top four d in three to
five years, probably with Luno playing big even strength minutes
but not the power play. But if one or two
of those guys bust, Luno could be in line for
power play too, even power play one time. In addition
to that top four slot, he thinks he's one of
the safest defensive prospect bets to be a regular eighteen
minute plus guy in his prime. The NHL Rankking Mason Black,
Tristan Luno versus Luca Kegnoni of the San Jose Sharks,
and Kegnoni is the big winner, sixty nine to thirty
one percent. Victor Cagnoni Luno, How you got him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely going with the people here. I it's
interesting hearing what Jeremy had to say about Un. I
didn't never really see him that way. He's talking more
and most Cider. I've always thought of him more a
offensive specialist who wasn't as good defensively. It sounds like
his game has evolved quite a bit, so that's good
to hear. I do think that Cagnoni is probably more
what you would want in your traditional fantasy asset. He
has been running the top power play for the Barracuda,
who have been a really good team this year fifty
two points in sixty four games, three points in six
playoff games, including generating just a ton of really great
A chances for some of the Sharks. Fars haven't always
finished as you would like, and so I definitely think
Kegnoni is the one I'd rather have. Plus, they don't
really have an air parent. Some people might think it's
Sam Dickinson, but I do think Dickinson is more of
an all round kind of guy. And with the draft lottery,
it seems like they are not getting Matthew Shaeffer. Even
if they did get Shaeffer, I'm not convinced that he
would be necessarily the top power play and I think
that organization has really started to like Cagnoni quite a
lot in that role, and so that's always great to
see there's some institutional support there. Organizational support, I do
think that, and seeing Cagnoni get a little bit of
NHL action was also great to see this season, shows
a little bit more trust from the organization's six games
he had to assist he was running the top power play.
So I'm definitely taking Cagnoni. I have Cagnoni as a
seven point five to seven on my rankings. I had
Luno at a five point two five, so for me,
it's pretty clear I'm taking Cognoni. Cagnoni doesn't really bash either.
His hits and blocks are pretty low, his shots aren't
even that high, so he's definitely more of an assist
heavy kind of guy. Quinn Hughes esque. I'm not saying
he's going to score that many points, but in terms
of not having as much perferal coverage. Looking at the
hockey prospecting between the two, Cagnoni up to fifty one
percent chance of being a star. Luno graduated this season
at thirty percent chance, so still pretty good both in
the high sixties to seventy percent chance of being an NHLer.
So you like to see that in terms of Leuno,
some of the other comps that seem reasonable for him.
Mike Green is someone who I think he might look
a lot alike. Now that now Jeremy's saying more of
a most cider, but I think Mike Green in terms
of the a little bit more offensively inclined. Maybe not
as best all around, but that's my sense. Looking at
the top down hockey model for Luno five percent chance
of being a start, ninety percent chance of being an
NHL or is where he's at, so a little bit
more pessimistic there. But there are a lot more guys
on the Ducks that we could have talked about, and
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of these prospects in the Dynasty digs. We've got guys
who are helping us out now in prepping these shows.
There's more than Victor and I could probably handle for
the course of the summer. So thank you Mike, Steven
and Matt for your help with the show preps. Brandon
helps with the website, the prospect ranks, and the visualizations,
especially the famous Fantasy Hockey Life player cards that you
get with the Patreon. If you've got skills you'd like
to lend the show. Victor would love to hear from you.
Hit him up in the discord, email or on social media.
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