1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here's 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:14,560 sh Qus, your source of information and analysis to help 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,160 you win your fantasy hockey league. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,839 Speaker 2: Block off, hot A, step hit on, stay locked. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Jesse Sovi here and Victor Nuno. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,839 Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Live once again. Jesse Severe here, Victor Nuno There, Victor, 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,000 since you're there, tell me how are you doing so 8 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:36,320 that those of us here can know. 9 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:41,679 Speaker 2: Doing great? Jesse, Yeah, great stuff and looking forward to 10 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:44,359 continuing our team previews and hitting our stride. It's a 11 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,679 fun off season project. And whether it's your team or 12 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:51,000 a team that you're not as interested in, it's still 13 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:53,479 all relevant for all of us play dynasty hockey, So 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,880 can't wait to get another one. How you doing, my friend? 15 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. My furnace broke. That's the most recent 16 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:03,280 news in Costa Severe is our furnace broke? And it's okay. 17 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:07,799 It's decent outside. It's reasonable Wisconsin spring weather somewhere between 18 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:10,480 the forties and the sixties, so we'll survive. But I 19 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:13,000 need to put out the bat signal. Do you think Simone? 20 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:16,239 Is this what he does? Does he replace heaters? And 21 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:18,239 you think he would do it gratis if I asked. 22 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:21,359 Speaker 2: Him, probably, but you probably have to pay for the 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,239 travel from from where he is in northern BC. 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Oh son of a gun. It's all right, though, I'd 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,079 only have to pay him in Canadian dollars and that's 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,480 probably like nothing in US dollars. Right now, wrong time 27 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,680 for that joke. Let's move on to talk about the 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,519 Fantasy Hockey Life discord. If you're angry at me for 29 00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:43,439 making fun of different currencies, we don't encourage yelling. It's 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,079 a very positive atmosphere and attitude that we have in 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,079 our discord. But you know what I dished it out. 32 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:50,799 I can take it. If you want to show up 33 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,439 and talk about that, just take me and I'll see it. 34 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:55,719 But really, more to the point, why not talk about 35 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:58,319 the Stanley Cup playoffs? Why not talk about prep for 36 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:01,560 your rookie drafts. I'm seeing mott drafts pop up on 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,359 different sites. I'm seeing all kinds of pre draft rankings. 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,120 That is a place you can get into if you 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,039 want to Fantasy Hockeylife at gmail dot com. We'll get 40 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:13,520 you a link for free and you can hop in 41 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:15,280 and just start. We got a whole bunch of little 42 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:18,000 rooms we've got the conversations. But one of the things 43 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:21,120 we like to talk about in that discord, Victor, is 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,960 some of the cool stuff we have for patrons. What 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,639 are those things? 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: Tons of great bonus content. If you're interested in supporting 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,039 the show and just getting some extra tools along the way, 48 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,560 so you can get access to our patroon cast. You 49 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:39,879 can get access to our Patron Priority Channel. You can 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,280 get access to DM Advice, so if you want to 51 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:45,879 have me copilot your rookie draft or just go walk 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,039 through some trade talks, all that is something I reserve 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,240 for patrons, so you can get some really personalized advice 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,840 that way. Of course, there's also the Tier Dynasty and 55 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,120 the website that has the player cards with ranks, tiers, lists, 56 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:00,400 all that kind of stuff. So check all that out 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,759 over at patreon dot com slash Fantasy Hockey. 58 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,199 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to remember, Victor, we recently had our 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,319 Tidy Winners round table. That's the winners of our Tier Dynasty, 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,919 different tier leagues. Didn't one of them actually credit you 61 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:18,319 for helping them with the Roster Doctor and they ended 62 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,719 up winning their tier. Wasn't that a thing that happened? 63 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:23,719 Speaker 2: It sure was, Yeah, that was Scott at tour and 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 as he mentioned and I mentioned, I don't know why 65 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:29,439 more people don't take me up on it, because obviously 66 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:32,000 Scott did a lot of the work, but being able 67 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:36,400 to run those situations by an objective and I would 68 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:40,400 like to think informed third party is a really valuable asset. 69 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:42,800 And yeah, take us up on it. It's really great. 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Sometimes you get lost in the Weezer. I need that too. 71 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:48,080 I run things by Jesse, they run things by other people. 72 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,199 What it was going on here? I think about this wrong. 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,560 It's just really a good thing to have. And yeah, 74 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:55,159 definitely that helped him and can help you too. 75 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 76 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: You know what, if you're out there, if you play 77 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:01,240 Dynasty fantasy hockey in your life, you know what, I 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,080 really don't have anybody to talk to. I sit here, 79 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,759 I read the articles and I'm just trying to figure 80 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:06,919 it out myself. Why not join a community, why not 81 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,879 get to know and talk with people? Victor, we have 82 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:13,960 done what we're going to do for this introduction. After this, 83 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:23,920 everybody duck welcoming back to the show. Derek Lee of 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,160 The Hockey News, who is going to talk Anaheim Ducks 85 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:29,000 with us? How are you doing today, Derek. 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: And Jesse, how are you guys? 87 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: Good? Good? Unfortunately talking Anaheim rather early in the offseason. 88 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,600 It would be cool if we were having to wait 89 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:40,439 a little bit longer, but and I always feel bad 90 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:43,360 on these first couple episodes, Derek, I'm not calling out 91 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,120 your team, but we got to give the straight dirt, 92 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:49,439 the straight truth here, and the truth is the Ducks 93 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:51,480 were out of the playoffs for the seventh straight year. 94 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:55,839 This year third fewest goals in the NHL with two 95 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:58,759 hundred and seventeen. That's compared to the league leader, who 96 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,519 scored two hundred ninety two. One problem was the league 97 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,199 worst power play eleven point eight percent for the Ducks. 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,639 The defense allowed the most shots against in the league 99 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,160 with twenty six and forty eight. Luckily, there was a 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,279 little bit of goodness in the goaltending. We'll get to 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 the goaltenders a little bit later. That kept things from 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 going completely off the rails there. And even though this 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,879 year actually saw standings points improvements from fifty nine to 104 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:29,480 eighty points, second year coach Greg Cronin will not have 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,279 a third chance at leading the turnaround. Now. I'll warn 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,959 all of our listeners and YouTube Derek that we are 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,800 recording these shows in advance, so as we record, the 108 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:42,600 Ducks do not have a coach that will probably be 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,399 a fossil by the time that this episode is released. 110 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,959 And certain past coaches whose last names start with Q 111 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:52,000 have been rumored, and of course we just don't know 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,360 who the Ducks are going to hire. I won't hold 113 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:58,600 you to anything there, but all being said, as you 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,079 reflect on this last year and think about how things 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,560 are looking forward, how did Ducks watchers view what just 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,079 happened in what big changes are you expecting? 117 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because, like you mentioned, they had the 118 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:14,560 point increase twenty one points. In most situations you'd feel 119 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,759 like that's a big positive going from going to that 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,319 big of an increase. But like you also mentioned, the 121 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:23,920 goaltending was really great all season. The special teams, power 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,800 play and penalty killer booth to the worst in the league, 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,920 and I think the goaltending really papered over a lot 124 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:34,920 of those kind of subpar attributes of the team. So, 125 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,639 like I think, you look at the goals saved above 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,279 expected and it's ten plus more than that. The goaltending 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,720 really heavily attributed to a reason why the Ducks honestly, 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 weren't the worst team in the league. If they had 129 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,000 league average goaltending or even below average goaltending, I think 130 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,879 you'd see them competing for the Sharks and the Blackhawks 131 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:57,360 for that top pick in the upcoming draft. But there 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,639 was a couple of guys that took big steps of 133 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,279 Jackson McComb is definitely one of the guys that took 134 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:05,079 the biggest step for sure, forty three points in seventy 135 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,480 five games in this full second first his second full 136 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,240 season as an NHLR, so that was a big story 137 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:14,800 all year. Leo Carlson, he had a slow start and 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,240 in his sophomore season he picked it up after playing 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,199 for Sweden at four Nations being around those kinds of guys, 140 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:24,079 the top players from his home country. Cuter Goche also 141 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,240 got off a slow start, but he ended up twenty 142 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:27,199 goals forty. 143 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: Four points in his rookie season. 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: Him and Leo Carlson, they're connecting a little bit down 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,639 the stretch, and you look at guys like Mason McTavish, 146 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:35,560 Trevis Segres, those guys have been in the league for 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 a little bit. They were picking it up a little bit. 148 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,680 At the end of the season, they were on the 149 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 line together. Zegers season natural center, he was playing winning 150 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,199 next to McTavish, So those guys were picking it towards 151 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,000 the end. And then again Troy Terry, he's led the 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 team in points I think for the last three seasons 153 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:52,920 or so. He's just always been a constant for the team. 154 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:55,240 I think he'd like to see a little bit more offense, 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,759 especially as this team is gearing up for a playoff 156 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,920 push next year. Like general manager Pat for Beeks said, So, 157 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,079 whether that's acquiring some sort of scoring talent via free 158 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,120 agency or trade or whatnot during Austin, I think that's 159 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,240 definitely going to be something that the team has to 160 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:11,839 look forward to the summer. 161 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: We want to dig into pretty much every guy you 162 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:19,319 just talked about. Yeah, clearly, Pat Verbeek was not having 163 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:21,519 it at the end of the season, and that's part 164 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:23,319 of the reason things had to change. But let's start 165 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:26,920 with Troy Terry. Because Troy Terry's fifty five points unfortunately 166 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,519 led the Ducks this year and scoring, which is disappearing 167 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,679 disappointing level to lead. But don't blame Troy Terry. He 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,840 did score fifty five points and that ain't too shabby. 169 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,120 The Terry Veatrono stromeline played the second most minutes together 170 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,240 of any five on five forward line in the NHL 171 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,519 last year, had a ton of minutes together. He started 172 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:49,120 with eight points and ten games. He had a nice 173 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,159 little six goal and two assists in in eight point 174 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,879 total flurry in a six game stretch around the new year, 175 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,799 and then he missed some time. It sounds like there 176 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:01,679 was some family challenge involving the birth of a child. 177 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:04,399 And I'm not going to try to psychoanalyze him. I'm 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,159 not going to say, if anything, stick taps for being 179 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,360 able to play and be a highly productive NHL player 180 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:13,799 through some of that. But and he was pretty good 181 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,440 even after he came back. But definitely the second half 182 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 of Troy Terry's season did not match up to the 183 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:24,559 first half. He slowed considerably as the team malingered down 184 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,320 the stretch. And one wonder is fifty five points that 185 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,480 the team around him were a bit more productive, Maybe 186 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:34,159 his production could get back from the fifties into that 187 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,720 seventy point pace that he was managing there for a 188 00:09:36,759 --> 00:09:39,120 couple of seasons when he really broke out. I don't know. 189 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,759 His level of production pretty reasonable for a seven million 190 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:44,759 dollar contract for the long term in this day and 191 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:47,320 age with a rising cap. But what did you see 192 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,159 from Troy Terry this year and what are your expectations 193 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:52,480 for him the twenty seven year old going forward. 194 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an opposite from last season. The twenty twenty 195 00:09:55,879 --> 00:09:58,480 three twenty four seven got off to a slow start 196 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:00,879 a little bit, and then this past season they've had 197 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:03,519 a slow finish. I think part of that is just 198 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:06,840 their line that the Toronto Terry stromline, Like that line 199 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 was pretty bad to end the season. I think they 200 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:13,440 had maybe ten points or something as a line in 201 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,840 the last like thirteen or fourteen games. So that's really 202 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,720 a big issue. And the fact is that they got 203 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:20,759 a lot of ice time together. Is the lines were 204 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,639 jumbled together most of the season. It's like you had 205 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,519 guys like mctavis going down the fourth line, Goce going 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,120 down the fourth line, but the whole time, the constant 207 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 was the Toronto Strom Terry, and I think that might 208 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,399 have been part of the bigger issue is the Toronto 209 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,399 and Strom. They're capable players, they can be solid role 210 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,600 players in their own right, but I think Terry on 211 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,240 this team, he's more than that. 212 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: He's more than a role player. 213 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,879 Speaker 5: He's someone like you mentioned, you wanted to be the 214 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,080 top scorer of the top goal scorer on the team. 215 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 And he's just not playing with guys like that regularly 216 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,120 like you want him to be playing, maybe more with 217 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,200 guys like Maceon McTavish or Leo Carlson. These are guys 218 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,960 that are supposed to be the foundations, the cornerstones of 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,360 the team, and you're playing him with the Toronto and Strom. 220 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,879 Like I said, they're capable guys, but they're not the 221 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:08,440 it guys for this team that you want the team 222 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:08,679 to be. 223 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: The nucleus of the team. 224 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:14,159 Speaker 5: Is guys like Terry, Guys like McTavish, Carlson, Gochad like 225 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:16,519 guys that you envision are going to be on the 226 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,240 team six seven years down the road from now. I think, 227 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,519 whoever the next head coach, whoever it may be, I 228 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:27,080 think one of the big resolutions or kind of the 229 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,000 big factors is getting Terry with better quality teammates, better 230 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,480 players that he can play off of and he doesn't 231 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,399 have to be kind of the line driver every time 232 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,440 when you're on the ice. 233 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Indeed, and one of the guys that we might hope 234 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,679 can do that is Mason McTavish, who you also alluded to. 235 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,080 He played twelve more games this season than last. He 236 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,799 increased his time on ice by just over half a 237 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:51,879 minute and increases point total point pace from fifty four 238 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:54,960 to fifty six. He's now crossed the two hundred games 239 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,720 played thresholds. It makes me think this kind of might 240 00:11:57,759 --> 00:11:59,720 be who he is. Maybe he's just a fifty five 241 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,639 ish point player. You'll tell us about that. According to 242 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,799 Evolving Hockey, his offense is a seventy fourth percentile, pretty 243 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,399 high expected goal of actual goal contribution. Defensively, though, it 244 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,799 looks statistically like one of the worst forwards in the league, 245 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,679 only twelve percent tile. So I'm not sure if that's 246 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:19,159 what you think we can expect from McTavish moving forward. 247 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:23,000 Not so good defensively, pretty decent offensive contribution. Do you 248 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,320 think there's more points upside than what he's shown? What 249 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,879 do you think we can expect they're there? 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's hard to evaluate everyone offensively just 251 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:35,039 because like the way that great Cronin system is set up, 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,039 it's very defensive minding. A lot of it is just 253 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,960 dump and chase. I feel like that gets often they're misrepresented. 254 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,440 A lot dump and chase isn't necessarily bad. You can 255 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,279 recover pucks, but the Ducks weren't very good at idea. 256 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: The way that. 257 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: Their team is set up is counterintuitive to that. They 258 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,600 have a lot of guys that feed off the rush. 259 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,919 They can play well off the rush with speed, and 260 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,240 that's just not really the way that the team plays. 261 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,799 So when you have guys that aren't really fit for 262 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,559 the system that they wanted set up, it doesn't really. 263 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: Bode well for those guys. 264 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 5: I think it's great that McTavish got a new career 265 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:11,200 high this year. He's had forty points and all three 266 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,159 of this full season forty plus points in all three 267 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,000 of the full seasons at the NHL level, and that 268 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:19,399 came especially after he had a slow start, look like 269 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,360 maybe he was playing through something. Eventually in November he 270 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,200 sat out a little bit while he was recovering from 271 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,200 an injury. He had a really strong finish. Just Carlson 272 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,519 negotiated to the season. I think offensively he's going to 273 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,879 be great. He's great option on the power plays, while 274 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:36,240 he's got that lethal shot the one timers, an option 275 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:38,799 that they really tried for it felt like no matter 276 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,480 what the penalty kill was. But I think he nailed 277 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:45,480 on the head. Like defensively, he hasn't been great. Actually 278 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,840 last season he was. I would say he was probably 279 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:50,360 worse defensively. You could see the Gears turning this year 280 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,000 in terms of defensive coverage and things like that. And 281 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:55,919 I think the next head coach, whatever their system is, 282 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,879 and maybe it'll vowe a little bit better for McTavish 283 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:03,360 because playing man man is just such a demanding system defensively, 284 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,720 So if you make one, like a little mistake or 285 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:09,039 you just have a lapse in concentration, that can really 286 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:12,320 just screw everything because then everything is just all out 287 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,879 of whack. Maybe a better system for McTavish, if they 288 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,519 go to his own or whatever it is, I think. 289 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: That can help them out a little bit more defensively too. 290 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:24,639 Speaker 3: Trevor Ziegris, where do we start, Derek, I'm struggling here 291 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:27,879 because this was the wonder Kin, this was the video 292 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:30,559 game cover boy. He was so exciting. He had these 293 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:33,919 great plays, and he had a second straight underwhelming season. 294 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,919 He had a mildly positive impact compared to his teammates 295 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:42,440 on offense at five on five a negative impact, went 296 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,399 on an ice for defense. Thirty two points and fifty 297 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,159 seven games is not what we wanted. Yes, now give 298 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,720 him a break. He missed six weeks for tearing his meniscus. 299 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,759 Coming back after six weeks after tearing your meniscus is something. 300 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:57,679 His production was not great even before that though, to 301 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:01,279 be fair, and then in February he gave really nasty 302 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,039 blow to Michael Rasmussen's head and lost three more games 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,240 due to his suspension. He's somewhat warmed up late in 304 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:11,559 the season when he got with McTavish and Colangelo, who 305 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 were both kalangel will still talk, but still nott stellar. 306 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,600 Is this just a second straight lost season, a previous 307 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:22,039 season injury in down production from his really very promising 308 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,759 early career and things are going to be good next 309 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,960 year or do we just have to give up on 310 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Zigris being a superstar and start thinking of him as 311 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:32,679 he's just gonna maybe come out to be a pretty 312 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,679 good NHL player. 313 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:39,519 Speaker 5: It's interesting because we talk about like the whole mainstream media, 314 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 they talk about the Vigres like he's supposed to be 315 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,759 like the next coming to whoever, and he named it, 316 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:47,600 I'm superstar He's drafted ninth overall, and I think you 317 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:49,840 expect a lot of top ten picks to hit and 318 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,720 be the solid foundation, the cornerstone of the organization, kind 319 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,000 of like I mentioned before with guys like Carlson, Goch 320 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,039 and whatnot. But this is a guy that I still 321 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,840 believe is the most creative player on the team. When 322 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:03,840 he has the puck on his stick, he makes plays 323 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,720 that you wouldn't expect the average player to make. Sometimes 324 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:09,320 he makes plays that his teammates don't even expect them 325 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,320 to make. He'll make a pass and it looks like 326 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:13,039 it's just a blind pass right in the middle of 327 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:14,840 device and you think, why did he make that power? 328 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:17,440 Why did he try to make that pass? There's nobody there. 329 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,279 Maybe it's because his teammates aren't expecting it. They're not 330 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:23,320 expecting someone to find them in that spot, and they 331 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,759 just don't go in. It just looks like an awful turnover. 332 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:28,759 When he's seen the ice differently than a lot of 333 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:31,399 players do, and I think he was in a pretty 334 00:16:31,399 --> 00:16:33,879 different role this season. He's playing a lot more wing 335 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,200 than he has and I would say probably his entire 336 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,399 NHL career, probably the most since he was playing with 337 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:45,240 the NTVP, which is seven years ago, eight years ago. 338 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,559 So I think he's not going to be great defensively. 339 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,600 I think that's something that you just have to live with. 340 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:55,320 He's worked hard to be better defensively. I think that's 341 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,840 something that Greg Crouner really harped on him about the season, 342 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,039 like on the power Play too. Just like I said, 343 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,119 anytime he has the puck, he's probably the most dangerous 344 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,799 player on this He just sees the ice so well, 345 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,240 he sets up his teammates so well. I think he 346 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,079 gets a lot of undeserved flat just because, like you said, 347 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,839 he's on the cover of the video game, and that's 348 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,359 something that's usually reserved for the best of the best. 349 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,480 Right You've seen guys like Alex Ovechkin and whatnot, like 350 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:25,640 Sidney Crosby on the cover. But we all know how 351 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,279 good Sidney Crosby is, So when you see somebody like 352 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:31,359 Trevor Ziegers on the cover, you expect him, I think, 353 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,279 as an outsider at least. 354 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:34,759 Speaker 4: To be one of the best. 355 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:36,839 Speaker 5: And so I think that's where a lot of that 356 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:41,000 undeserved flat comes from. Is he's just he's not the superstar, 357 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,160 but he's still a really good player. He can be 358 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,680 a great top six player on this team, and I'm 359 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,480 really looking forward to seeing what the next head coach 360 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:50,000 of Vanaheim Ducks can do with him. 361 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, next guy to talk about. You mentioned him. Maybe 362 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:57,519 not as impressive of a real life player, but let 363 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:00,480 me tell you a secret Derek fantasy for love. 364 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 4: Frank Patrono. 365 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: Frank Patrono was the most valuable fantasy skater for this 366 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:09,160 team last year, and part of that a lot of 367 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,039 minutes on the ice. But what he does is he 368 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,279 gets three shots a hit in a block per game, 369 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:17,000 and those things all count in our game, in addition 370 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:19,240 to the forty five points he got in eighty one games. 371 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,400 For those of us who actually pay attention to the salaries, 372 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:26,759 because those are also cracked in some leagues, he was 373 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,920 on a very low contract. He got an ice raise 374 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,640 and extension this year, but it's still not a huge contract. 375 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,359 It's more reflective of a middle six ish type player, 376 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,880 but one who in some ways got very good production 377 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:40,759 and quite a bit of time on ice for that 378 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,160 type of a role. And you gotta love the trajectory 379 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,680 of this guy's career. He started out undrafted, He labored 380 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,359 in lower prominence roles for three other teams for years 381 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,000 before arriving in Anaheim in twenty twenty two, grabbing his 382 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,160 current role at the age of twenty eight. Now he's 383 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,839 thirty one. Seventh NHL season is when he finally came 384 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,799 to prominence. Now he's in his I guess he'll be 385 00:19:05,839 --> 00:19:09,880 going into his tenth or something like that. But you 386 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:13,920 mentioned can you really keep Troy Terry with Frank Vitrono. 387 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,799 There's a rising tide. These young guys were talking about 388 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:20,000 today are probably kind of come up and get rolls. 389 00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:22,559 And I guess part of my question to talk about 390 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,119 the Toronto and whether he is going to move down 391 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,640 because a guy with that kind of physical game probably 392 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,160 could for a lower line, or whether they're gonna want 393 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,279 that muscle to be up there with some of their 394 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,319 stars on the top lines, to have a little bit 395 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,039 of protection, a little bit of physicality in that top six. 396 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,920 What's the future for Frank Vitrono. 397 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it just depends on what they do 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,880 in the offseason right now or not right now. This 399 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,160 past season, their top six for the most part was 400 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:55,720 the Toronto strong Terry and then the other line was 401 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,680 Leo Carlson and Alex Corn and then whoever they've rotated 402 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,000 in the that before they settled on Goche, which. 403 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: Is what they had the idea of. At the beginning 404 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,359 of the season. 405 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,039 Speaker 5: Go Chi kind of struggled out the gate, so they 406 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,200 went away from that and tried to plug and play 407 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,119 a couple guys, and then they got Goch back up 408 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 there for the last twenty or so games. But yeah, 409 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,200 like I mentioned before, having guys like the Toronto and 410 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:18,839 Strom and like your top nine, I think that's solid 411 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,240 having go Cha Carlson and then maybe you bumped down 412 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,759 Klarn as well, and you have the Toronto Strom Colorin. 413 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:28,039 That's a solid veteran line. The Toronto and Strom. Also, 414 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,039 they're not fantastic defensively, but I think Colorin in his 415 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,279 own right is really great defensively there. That's just a 416 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,920 hard checking line that can add a little bit of 417 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:40,720 scoring touch. And like you mentioned the Toronto, he gets 418 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,599 shots on that. He gets hits, he gets blocks. He's 419 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,000 super valuable in a kind of a banger's style type 420 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:50,279 of league, So I think if you have him in 421 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,119 that kind of role, it still works out. He plays 422 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,599 a lot on the penalty kill, he was playing a 423 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,640 lot on the power play like he's in all situations player. 424 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,359 I don't know if that's the way he's going to 425 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,279 be utilized with going forward, So I think that's something 426 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:03,920 you have to take into account right because of just 427 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,599 the way that the next head coach is going to 428 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,359 utilize them. But he certainly has a pensiant for getting 429 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,880 shots on that. I feel like there's a shot that 430 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Frankfurt Toronto doesn't like. And then he's led the team 431 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:18,440 and blocks and hits for the last two seasons as 432 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,759 a forward. Out of all the forwards I should say, 433 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,400 I think the only issue is down the stretch when 434 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,799 he wasn't scoring that much, I feel like he was 435 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,759 getting a little bit frustrated. The pension for taking penalties 436 00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:31,559 popped up there at the end. I think that's something 437 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:34,519 that patford Beek values. The Toronto's kind of that guy 438 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:36,960 that's going to get in there, get in the gritty areas. 439 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,240 He's going to be He's got that fire, that competitiveness. 440 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:43,079 So it'll be interesting to see where his role fits in. 441 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,599 I think it just really depends a lot, like I said, 442 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:48,079 on what the Ducks do, and maybe they try to 443 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,559 get a little bit more of a top six bone 444 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,799 to fight option to play along somebody like Carlson and 445 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,960 gosche Nice. 446 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to another one of their 447 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,480 young stars or blooming stars, Leocarlin. He had a good 448 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,079 second season with the Ducks. Season they were rationing his starts. 449 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,720 He played fifty five games this season. He pretty much 450 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,920 played them all seventy six games. He increased his point 451 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,519 pace from forty three to forty seven. 452 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 4: That was good. 453 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,839 Speaker 2: His ice time went down a little bit though, he 454 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,240 went from eighteen oh seven to sixteen fourteen. So all 455 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:24,039 in all, seemed like pretty successful. Defensively, he seems really good, 456 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,640 sixtieth percentile for defense. Offensively, he seems more average, though 457 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:30,759 it seems like maybe he was carrying a little bit 458 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,839 of a heavier load this season, so maybe that was 459 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,200 part of it. But he seems like he's clicking around 460 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,440 a fifty ish point pace. Do you think that's what 461 00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:41,000 we should expect from Carlson next season, Derek, or do 462 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,400 you think that they're still upside beyond that in terms 463 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,839 of points? 464 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,279 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he was just scratching the surface. He's 465 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:49,160 only twenty years old. 466 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,799 Speaker 5: A lot not a lot of guys are playing regularly 467 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,799 in the NHL at twenty years old. The league is 468 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,359 getting younger and faster, and so we might start to 469 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 see some younger guys popping up. But getting almost fifty 470 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,000 points in your second season the league as a twenty 471 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,519 year old, I think that's pretty impressive, especially when, like 472 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,680 I said, the system didn't really compliment. The way that 473 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,759 this team can play is off the rush and using 474 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,079 their speed to generate a lot of chances. And I 475 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,640 think we saw that a little bit more in the 476 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,480 second half. They played a little bit more free flowing, 477 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,720 and I think that the next head coach can embrace 478 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,400 that style of play. I think that'll help guys out, 479 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,279 like guys like Carlson out a lot. He's playing on 480 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,519 the power play. Obviously, he's one of the best offensive 481 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:29,720 talents on the team. He's playing on the penalty kill. 482 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:32,079 I would hope that the next head coach continues to 483 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,720 utilize him on the penalty kill because he's a smart player. 484 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,279 And as we move towards teams utilizing their penalty killers 485 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,559 more as power killers in the sense of you don't 486 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:44,880 want to just defend the posing power play, you want 487 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,799 to take chances you want to push the pace and 488 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,839 take advantage of them maybe having just one defenseman back 489 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,759 because they're on the power play. He's a great all 490 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,240 around player. I think he is going to be the 491 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,799 franchise star for the team, and obviously you don't want 492 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,480 to ease that term lightly because now everybody's going to 493 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:02,839 be a star. 494 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: But I think he has the potential. 495 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,279 Speaker 5: You can see it right now, and just having him 496 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:09,000 and gootiate together, I think that's going to be a 497 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,160 really dynamic duel for years to come. 498 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,559 Speaker 2: Indeed, and Carlson definitely helped me in one of my leagues, 499 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,480 take me all the way to the finals. He was 500 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,240 pretty good down the stretch of the Fantasy Hockey playoffs, 501 00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:22,200 And if that's a hint of what's to come, then 502 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,920 we're all going to be super excited about that. Let's 503 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,680 talk about their other young gun that you mentioned already, 504 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,960 and that's Cutter Gotier. It was a pretty good rookie 505 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,759 season for Gotier. He played all eighty two games after 506 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,680 getting in one game last season. He play had forty 507 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,400 three points. He also averaged three point seven to seven 508 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,519 bash per game. That's something we like to look at 509 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,680 that combines block shots and hits, so overall pretty decent 510 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,559 peripheral contributions when he's not scoring. He also looks a 511 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,480 bit like McTavish in the sense that his offense was 512 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,640 really high seventy fifth percentile, which is great, that's fantastic 513 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,480 for your first year in the league. His expected and 514 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,039 actual goal contributions were really high. His defense though, twenty 515 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,599 third percent. I also actually hire the mctaverish, but still 516 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 really low. So what did you think of cutter season 517 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,880 and what do you think we can expect from him 518 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,400 next season? 519 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: That Derek, Yeah, like I mentioned before, he got off 520 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,799 to a slow start, but I think once he got 521 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,160 to see under I mean, it's really hard transitioning from 522 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,519 the college game straight to the pros. So he got 523 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:25,839 the one game in last year, but it was the 524 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,079 very last game of the season. I had a whole 525 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:32,319 entire offseason work on things. And also he was playing wing, 526 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:35,039 which is an opposition that he played in college. He 527 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:37,279 was primarily a center in college, so that was something 528 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:38,880 he had to adjust to I think a little bit 529 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,839 in the same way it was Zeus. I think he 530 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,839 had to learn a little bit of the defensive aspects 531 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,240 of the game. 532 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,079 Speaker 4: I think that's what bogged him down a little bit. 533 00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,039 Speaker 5: I think Cronin wasn't really happy with the way that 534 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,400 he was setting himself up defensively, so he went down 535 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,960 on the fourth line a little bit, try to work 536 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,319 on those habits. And once he got back up there 537 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,200 and he was playing with McTavish and Robbie Fabry for 538 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,240 of I think December to February, and they were clicking 539 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,720 a little bit. And then once Fabric went down in 540 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,559 February is when he got elevated to play with Carlson 541 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,960 and Klorin, and I think at that point that's when 542 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,960 things started clicking for him. He wasn't a regular on 543 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,920 the power play, which I'm unsure about. I don't know 544 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,000 why he wasn't really part of that. He probably has 545 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,960 the best shot on the team, like he's a lethal sniper. 546 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,119 He had, however, many goals in college last year or 547 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,200 the year before forty or whatnot, And I think having 548 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,279 a weapon like that not on your power play, that's 549 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:34,079 just a little confusing for me. But if you have 550 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,880 him on the power play like he played on the 551 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,599 penalty kill a little bit down the stretch, like you mentioned, 552 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,759 he uses, he's great for bash. If you asked me 553 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:44,160 who the third leading shot blocker among forwards on the 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,759 Ducks last season was, I probably wouldn't have guest Cutter 555 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:50,519 Groce right, just because of how offensively inclined he is. 556 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,240 But yeah, it's a great for him that he played 557 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,279 all eighty two games. That's really hard to do in 558 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,599 this league, especially at such a young age, so I 559 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,119 think the sky's the limit for him. He got to 560 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,799 twenty goals, four points. That's pretty impressive concerning the start 561 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,440 that he has. I'm looking forward to seeing how he 562 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,160 does next season. 563 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,839 Speaker 3: One more forward, Sam Colangelo. He is he split his 564 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,240 year between Anaheim and San Diego. Reasonable offensive impact for 565 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,119 a depth role, although only twelve to twenty nine makes 566 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000 those twelve points. It leaves him with twelve points and 567 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,559 thirty two games, which doesn't look as impressive if he'd 568 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,000 played a larger role, perhaps that had come up a bit. 569 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:31,680 His defense showed as in line with his team at least, 570 00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:33,960 and he threw two hits a game, which we love. 571 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,200 He missed a few games due to injury during his 572 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,720 time at the Big club as well, so he's twenty 573 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,000 three years old. He's still trying to catch on it 574 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,440 seems with the team or really hold on to a 575 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,160 permanent role. But is Colangelo somebody that we're going to 576 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,839 expect is going to gel maybe someday get like a 577 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,599 fiftieth point breakout with a full season, or is this 578 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,640 a depth guy that you'll be watching closer watching those 579 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,200 Anaheim games every night than maybe the fantasy players and 580 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,680 people following from afar the most relevant players on the team. 581 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 582 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: Maybe, Like I said before, if you have guys like 583 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,640 the Toronto Stroman third line, I think maybe you can 584 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,880 plug in a guy like sam Plando there. He played 585 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,759 I think it was one or two games with them, 586 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:17,119 and he scored the only goal for the team. He 587 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,319 got a little bit of power play time down the stretch. 588 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,160 He's really great in front of the net. He had 589 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,799 a couple of nice redirection goals. I think that's something 590 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,599 that Cronin had really valued his guys going to the 591 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480 net and causing chaos, and I think Kalando did a 592 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,319 really good job of that. He's a pretty big guy. 593 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,079 He's pretty hard to move off the pucke. I think 594 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,200 he'd like he would say that he still needs to 595 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,119 work on his skating a little bit. He can't really 596 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,200 be coasting around the zone just because of how big 597 00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:43,960 he is, how strong he is. I think he'd like 598 00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:45,920 to create a little bit more with his feet and 599 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,319 create a little bit more separation with his speed mobility. 600 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,720 I think when he was playing with Zegris and mctavis, 601 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,279 I think that was a pretty solid line. I'm not 602 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,920 sure where they're going to go now, just because you 603 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 have to look at whether it's Chris is a center 604 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:02,920 or a winger, and they have a lot of centers. 605 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:06,079 But I think Clangel I think, especially next season, he 606 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:07,720 should be up with the club full time. You had 607 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,440 a really great season down in the AHL with San Diego. 608 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,960 He was an HL All Star, but I think at 609 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,799 this point you have to see what you have from him, 610 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,680 and the depth options below him were not great, and 611 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,519 so just the fact that he got twelve points and 612 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,839 thirty two games, and a lot of that came towards 613 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,279 the end of the season. I think he had five 614 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,559 games in a row with the goal. Obviously, you want 615 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,119 to have that kind of offensive ceiling in your top nine, 616 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,119 your bottom six, whatever you want to call it, because 617 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,839 not every night your top six is going to be clicking. 618 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,480 So you need that contribution from your depth forwards, especially 619 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,079 if you want to be a playoff team, because that's 620 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,559 how good teams go deep in the playoffs as they 621 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,519 get production from their depth guys like you look at 622 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,119 last night. We're recording this on April thirtieth. Last night, 623 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,039 the Vegas Golden Knights got their overtime winner for Brett Howden, 624 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,319 who plays on their fourth line. So you can get 625 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,079 contributions from like that, from players way down in your lineup, 626 00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,039 you're going to go pretty far. So I think if 627 00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:07,640 Colangelo can settle into that top nine role and maybe 628 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,599 you elevate him in the top six when things aren't 629 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,400 going so well, I think that's a really good role 630 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,759 for him. 631 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, we're going to switch over to the 632 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:23,519 defense now, and we're going to start, maybe surprisingly to 633 00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:27,599 some with Jackson Lacombe. I can't tell you how impressed 634 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,559 I was with Jackson m the comb season, but I'm 635 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,039 going to try so. His forty seven point pace was 636 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:36,000 certainly impressive, but a couple of a couple that with 637 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,519 twenty two to eighteen time on ice and two eight 638 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,000 on the power play. I did not see that amount 639 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,119 of time on ice coming. I also didn't see him 640 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,880 leading the defense in points we're talking about. We were 641 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,920 talking about Minchika versus Zellweger in terms of who might 642 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,640 lead them, and it was Lacomb all along. I also 643 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,799 looked a little deeper, and I wanted to see how 644 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,880 good he was compared to all the other defenders in 645 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,440 the league. And according to a hockey of all defenders 646 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440 who played as much time as Lacombe, only twenty in 647 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,359 the entire league had a better expected goal differential. And 648 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880 they're all pretty much the all stars you would expect, 649 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,359 Adam Fox, Dahlen, Wrensky, Cider Morrissey, and then some guys 650 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,599 sprinkled in there like Fords, Lane, Gavrikov, McNabb, Quinn Hughes, 651 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,160 John Carlson, Kill mccarr, Jacob Slave and all of these guys, 652 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Evan Bouchard, and then you have Jackson Lacomb. That's a 653 00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,480 pretty exclusive list to be a part of. His offensive 654 00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:32,880 and defensive impacts were both equally impressive, especially for such 655 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,559 a young defender in his career. I don't know, Derek, 656 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:36,880 I think you might have to talk me down the 657 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,680 ledge here in terms of how excited we all are 658 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,039 about Lacombe at point pace, it seems like maybe he 659 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,880 could even go higher. He was just so impressive this year. 660 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Tell me where you think he goes from here. 661 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's out of the question that 662 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,279 you could see a fifty point season from like he 663 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:54,200 came up just shy of that. 664 00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of that has to do with 665 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,960 how much ice time he got. 666 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:01,519 Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, he's pretty much the Duck's top defenseman 667 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,680 in terms of production and ice time this season, playing 668 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,599 alongside Captain Radco Dudas. 669 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 4: But he got power play time, he got penalty kill. 670 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 5: Time, like basically any situation where they needed a goal 671 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,599 or they had to defend a lead, like Lacolm was 672 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:15,920 out there. 673 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,839 Speaker 4: He was the jack of all trades. 674 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,319 Speaker 5: And I think he was really interesting because to start 675 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,240 the season he was sick a little bit. He didn't 676 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,839 play in the first game this season, and then he 677 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,799 was just in and out of the lineup a little 678 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,119 bit while they were working through some things, some defensive 679 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,400 rotations with zel Lager and Mi Chicav and Cam Fowler 680 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,519 was still there, so they had a logjam a little bit. 681 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,599 But once Fowler got traded to Saint Louis there is 682 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,599 basically Okay, here's the rains and go and take it, 683 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 and he took it. But it'll be interesting to see 684 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,519 where they go next season, just because zell Wiger and 685 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,200 Michicag were rotating for a regular playing spot in the lineup, 686 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:55,640 and I think it should be where it's Lao, Michicab's 687 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,400 Alger doesn't have to be in that order, but that's 688 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,960 three guys on the left side next season, I would imagine, 689 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:03,240 So it'll be interesting to see where they. 690 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: Go from there. 691 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: In terms of power play time and whatnot. I think 692 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,119 Lacomb is a capable power play guy. 693 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,799 Speaker 4: He was is funny. 694 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,839 Speaker 5: Greg Cronin always told the story about how at Minnesota 695 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,720 I keep playing with Brock Favor Lacombe did, and Favor 696 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,319 wasn't the number one power play guy, it was the 697 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,400 comb So he definitely has the offensive capabilities. Again, a 698 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,599 lot of this kind of revolves around who the next 699 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,200 head coach that the Ducks is going to be and 700 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:29,000 how he plans to utilize these guys. But I don't 701 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,359 think it's out of the question that that's just the 702 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,119 way that lacomb played this past season. He definitely can 703 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:35,480 take things to a newer height. 704 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: We're going to keep hammering on some of the guys 705 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,680 you just mentioned, because, my good I remember back and 706 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:45,559 I don't know why this is lacked in my mind, 707 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160 but in around twenty sixteen seventeen, the Ducks were just 708 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:53,960 loaded with relevant defenseman Cam Fowler. That he was the 709 00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:57,079 last one to last on this team, but at that 710 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:01,799 time the team had Fowlers, Sammy Vatinan Lindholm, Josh Manson, 711 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,440 Shay Theodore, Brandon montor even Kevin Biexo was there. It 712 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,960 was just there were all these defensemen who went on 713 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,400 to have pretty good careers, and it feels like right 714 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,679 now they're loaded with names. But my goodness, Olin Zelweger, 715 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,199 maybe we fantasy types just got our hopes too high 716 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,519 about what gibs. He has not yet really jumped into 717 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,199 the status of a top tier defenseman. 718 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 4: Now. 719 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: To be fair, he's twenty one years old and come 720 00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,559 in into the season, he had twenty six career NHL 721 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,320 games played, so we ought to have reasonable expectations and 722 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,719 defense is not a quick position to learn. He also 723 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,800 had reasonable even strength defensive impact in this team context 724 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,280 this year. If you look at some of the advanced stats, 725 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,320 so he was not a SIEV. He has the disadvantage 726 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,000 of being the shortest of these three left shots that 727 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,599 you're talking about going out with the team. So really, 728 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,559 in the fact that he was decent on defense isn't 729 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,039 bad and he does take two shots a game the 730 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,199 most of these three players. Where is Zelweger going to 731 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,239 settle out? And is there a chance we could get 732 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,039 a power play one sixty point season at some point, Derek, 733 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:08,719 or do I need to give up on those dreams? 734 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,599 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say sixty points, that's pretty tough or even 735 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,719 I'd say even for the comb they get to right now. 736 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,519 Just because they have so many young promising guys on 737 00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,039 the team, they can distribute those minutes pretty even. The 738 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,840 I'd say, but maybe forty points. It just depends on 739 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,000 the role that he fills next season. This past season 740 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:27,920 he was in and out of the lineup. It was 741 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,039 a little bit of a rotation between him and Minchikov. 742 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,360 They had Brian Doomwin for a little bit. He came 743 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,079 in this past summer as a veteran option, so they 744 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,519 had a lot of left handed options, and even when 745 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,719 cam Faler was traded to the Blues and they brought 746 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,400 Jacob Truman, so that logjam continued, and then you had 747 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,400 Drew Helson that came up from the HL, So they 748 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,559 had all these kind of moving parts, and for whatever reason, 749 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,719 Minschikov and z Elier they got the short end of 750 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,440 the stick, so they were rotating for a little bit. 751 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,119 And then when trade deadline came around and doom Win 752 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,719 was shipped out to New Jersey was when things opened 753 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,239 up a little bit more. So you had Lacomb, Minchikov 754 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,239 and Zelweger on the left side. But even at the 755 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,239 very end it was weird like they had Cronin and 756 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840 Verbeek had talked about how there's this affinity for a 757 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,840 left side right side pairing having three lefties, three varieties, 758 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,840 and it seemed like they went away from that at 759 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,920 the end when Ian Moore came up from the AHL. 760 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,679 They had their playing right handed guys on the off 761 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,039 side for the last two to three games. 762 00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 4: So obviously that wasn't the issue. So I don't know 763 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,079 why they. 764 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:33,679 Speaker 5: Yo yo Minchikov and Zelig around and have Verbeek spoke 765 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,280 after the trade deadline about how difficult that had been 766 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,079 on those two players and how I'm getting pulled out 767 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,440 of the lineup, So why am I playing bad? 768 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: What is it? 769 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,199 Speaker 5: And sometimes it was just oh, that's just what we're doing. 770 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,559 So I can imagine how confusing that is for a 771 00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,920 young player, especially when you're trying to make an impact 772 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,280 at the top level. As of right now, it looks 773 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,199 like it's going to be those three guys lacom Minchikov, 774 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,840 Zelwegger on the left side heading into next season. 775 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,559 Speaker 4: Again like it's eating a dead horse. 776 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 5: But it just depends on who the next head coach is, 777 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,320 how they plan to utilize that ice time because there's 778 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,159 only so many spots on the power play and it's 779 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920 very rare in this day and age to see three 780 00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:12,440 defenseman on the power play. 781 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I have high hopes for those three guys. 782 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,679 Speaker 5: Like they have demonstrated that they have the capability to 783 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,960 be top players in this league. 784 00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: Just as a follow up there, do you think it 785 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:26,920 was Cronan who was doing this or is the decision 786 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,159 of who to call up and that type of thing 787 00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:30,920 A lot of that has to do with general manager too. 788 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,920 You think it was Cronan who was making the decision 789 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,199 to keep these guys cycled out? Of a lineup. 790 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 4: I honestly have no idea. 791 00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,639 Speaker 5: He asked the coach about it, and he gives you 792 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,239 the responses, and sometimes that's the response you're not expecting 793 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,320 to hear. But I think for the most part, it 794 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,239 was just that they wanted to have that lefty righty 795 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,079 pairing because Drew Helson played so many games down the stretch. 796 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,400 I think there was one point where he had been 797 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,960 scratched for I think six or seven games in a 798 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,440 row in December, and then he finally came back into 799 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,039 the lineup, and it felt like he never came out. 800 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,719 And that's not a slight to Drew Hollison. He's a 801 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760 capable player, but I think there was points where he 802 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,159 probably shouldn't have been in the lineup as regularly as 803 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,079 he was, and they just used the lefty righty pairings 804 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,440 as an excuse. And hopefully it'll be a little bit 805 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,199 better next season, I would imagine, But it was just 806 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,760 a really interesting kind of storyline to follow throughout the season. 807 00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 3: The third of the three, Pavel Minchikoff, he seems to 808 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,320 have in the past. He definitely seemed to have passed 809 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,320 up Zelwegger as a prospect, as he was coming up, 810 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,320 but then Jackson Lacombe swept right by both of them, 811 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,000 as we mentioned. But back to Minchikov, the former number 812 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,920 ten overall pick in his second year saw his points 813 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,159 declined by a third in roughly the same number of 814 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,079 total minutes. In advanced stats, he had the worst impact 815 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,800 on defense at five on five. That was not Robbie 816 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,159 for Brie on this team. If you look at some 817 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000 of those charts, now he takes a shot, he throws 818 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:04,280 a hit, and he makes a block once per game 819 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:08,239 when he's out there again, young still growing, came off 820 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,119 Calder votes for his rookie year, but down to brass tax. 821 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,239 I know, I don't want to mayn repeat. It's just uncertain. 822 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 It depends on the rules. But what did you think 823 00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:21,400 of Minchikov when you did see him out there last year? 824 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:22,800 And what do you think he's able to do? 825 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's pretty tough to have an impact 826 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,000 production wise when you don't get any special teams time, 827 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,800 which he didn't. He lost power playtime to Lacombe and 828 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440 zel Leger, and he wasn't killing penalties. It was actually 829 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,039 Hellison who is the one killing penalties with Jacob Truba 830 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,679 and Goudis and Lacomb. It's hard to make an impact 831 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,960 when you're basically playing bottom pair of minutes, and that's 832 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,840 what he was doing for the most part. It was 833 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,039 really interesting though, because at the beginning of the season 834 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,280 he was playing with Brian Doom when they had worked 835 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,559 pretty well, and then for some reason they just went 836 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,800 away from that. And like I said before, having Zelwegger 837 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,960 and in Chicav rotating and now the lineup. I think 838 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,599 part of that as just when you're playing and you 839 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,880 don't know if you're going to be in the next 840 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,800 game or not, you don't want to make a mistake. 841 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,079 Speaker 4: You don't want to take a risk because if. 842 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 5: Something happens then that comes back to bite you thought 843 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,559 I might not be in the lineup next game, so 844 00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:15,840 maybe I don't want to do that. And obviously people 845 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,000 will say they're professionals, like you just have to play 846 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,880 like your style and if that's not how it works, 847 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,920 and that's not how it works, but that's not always 848 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,039 how it works either. If somebody's breathing down your neck 849 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,800 and you get pulled out the lineup, like I said, 850 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,800 for no reason, or at least in your mind, you 851 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:36,239 see as not a good reason, then you tend to 852 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,480 play a little bit more conservatively because you just want 853 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,599 to stay in the lineup every game. So I think 854 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,719 next season they'll be able to have that freedom a 855 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,360 little bit more. They're both pretty young still in Chicag's 856 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,679 all where they're twenty one. They'll be twenty two by 857 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,719 the end of next season, so not a lot of 858 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,639 guys are bar five superstars by age twenty two, especially 859 00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:56,199 as a defenseman. But I'm really looking forward to seeing 860 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,719 how they playing a little bit more, not a less 861 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,360 high pressure rope, but just not having that uncertainty of 862 00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:05,920 a you're coming out of lineup for no reason at all, 863 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:06,920 just because. 864 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, if the young the lefties in this blue 865 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,920 line are these young whipper snappers coming up and we're 866 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,679 waiting to see the potential the right the right shots 867 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,880 are a couple of grizzled vets at this point and 868 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,719 a completely different deal. We're gonna mention them together. I 869 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,719 don't even know if colin her to pick them between 870 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,119 him makes any sense. Neither one of them has scores points. 871 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,599 Both of them have massive bash it hits and blocks 872 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,599 for days from Radko Gudash and Jacob Truba. They come 873 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,760 in on a different trajectory. Gudash seems to have finally 874 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,679 maybe settled into a home. He got to be the 875 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,880 captain last year, which was a big deal. I'm not 876 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,840 sure that being a captain on a team that wasn't 877 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,639 very successful, I'm not sure if that's a good thing 878 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,639 or a bad thing. Gudash and Truba are both on 879 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,280 expiring deals this year. Truba, of course, came over as 880 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,239 the result of kind of a messy professional divorce, I 881 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,159 would say with the New York Rangers, and the found 882 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:10,400 a role although not enormous production with the Ducks. What 883 00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:12,239 do you make of these two and do you see 884 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,079 either of them having a different type of impact or 885 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,920 sticking with the team for the long term. 886 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean you look at them. They're cut 887 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,519 from the same cloth or they're very physical. They block 888 00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:27,159 a lot of shots, they get a lot of hits. 889 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:31,079 Like you mentioned, they both have pretty lethal shots in 890 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,880 terms of power, maybe not such an accuracy, but they 891 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,159 both play a very similar style of game. I think 892 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,280 that's the way that Pat for Beek wants this team 893 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,599 to play. Is a very physical, very in your face. 894 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,800 Brad Coogois like credits in and being the I think 895 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,320 he was the sixth captain, six check captain. Ever, like 896 00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:52,360 he did not have a great season. I think it 897 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,960 was a really big step back from last season from 898 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,199 twenty twenty three to twenty four, when Jackson Lecoma's rookie. 899 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,800 Really I feel like he really helped stabilize lac Home 900 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,679 as a rookie and all of that just went out 901 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,440 the window for whatever reason this past season. I think 902 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,639 there is just a lot of mental errors. There are 903 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,639 a lot of times where he went out of his 904 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,760 way to make a hit that he didn't have to 905 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239 make and that would open up blow defensive coverages and whatnot. 906 00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,280 There's been rumors from the Czech media that he's going 907 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000 to miss the world and he's gone undergoing surgery, and 908 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,440 that's something that the Ducks have refuted and pushed back 909 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,800 on some. I'm interested to see how that kind of 910 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,159 turns out. But Truba, you know, like he's the same 911 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,239 way he blocks. I think he blocked the most shots 912 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,519 in the league this year, So he's definitely a guy 913 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:41,000 that they depend on in a lot of defensive situations, 914 00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:45,679 especially high leverage defensive situations. I think, like you don't 915 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,519 bring in somebody like Truba if you're just planning to 916 00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,320 let him walk in free agency the very next year. 917 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,800 So whether that's an extension or maybe they flip him 918 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,440 to a contender the next year. So myon is that 919 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,280 he probably gets an extension just because they don't have 920 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,760 a lot of options on the right side behind him 921 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,159 and Hellison. Like Tristan Luau had a great year in 922 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,880 the HL, He'll probably be a regular next season. I 923 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,920 think he needs to be a regular next season, depending 924 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960 on where they see that. Maybe they move on from 925 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,639 Duddas after the end of next season and you have Truba, Hellison, 926 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,320 Luno and also Ian More like I mentioned before, is 927 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,920 another option that they have. I mean, and you're looking 928 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,760 at players that get a lot of hits, get a 929 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,239 lot of block shots like Duddas and Truebar are your guys, 930 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,519 especially because they play so much on pm'll be kill 931 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,480 But yeah, don't expect anything offensive from them for the 932 00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:42,039 most part. 933 00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,519 Speaker 2: Good enough. Let's move over to the goalies now. The 934 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,039 Ducks were ranked thirty second and expected goals against for sixty, 935 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:52,440 but conceded only the twentieth ranked actual goals per game. 936 00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,039 Doesn't take too much thought there to realize that the 937 00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:59,280 goalies were a big part of the positive end there 938 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,280 for the Ducks. They were both above what they were 939 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,320 expected do. Shtall saved sixteen point four to three goals 940 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,159 save above expected at even strength and Gibson at thirteen 941 00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,639 point five to six. Both were very good. Doshall ended 942 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,320 up playing almost double the amount of games that Gibson 943 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,079 did and was really good in those games. The protection 944 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,480 that he got was actually a little bit below average 945 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,840 in terms of his expected Fenwick save percentage, and he 946 00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:28,519 pretty dramatically outperformed that both at even strength and on 947 00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:30,840 the power play. Gibson had a little bit better protection 948 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,400 and he did really well with that at even strength. 949 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,760 On the power play, he was a little not as good. Derek, 950 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440 where do you think we go next season? We're still 951 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,800 going to have a similar split where Dostal carries the 952 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,159 main part of the load, and we've been talking about 953 00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:48,519 potential trades with Gibson forever and it just hasn't happened. 954 00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:50,360 So I feel like maybe it's just not going to happen. 955 00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:52,400 But you let me know if you feel differently on that. 956 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:54,159 What are we going to see from the Ducks goalies 957 00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:54,639 next season. 958 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:59,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would imagine, especially just because the summer that 959 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,840 Dostaal's restricted free agent, like he's going to get a 960 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920 long term deal. I don't know how long and how much, 961 00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:05,880 but you look at kind of the deals that have 962 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,760 been signed recently, Logan Thompson, Mackenzie Blackwood, I think dos 963 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,440 Stall is probably going to get something in that range 964 00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:13,800 just because of how much younger he is than those guys. 965 00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,840 He's shown a little bit in the time that he's 966 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,880 had at the NHL that he's capable of being that 967 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,079 number one guy. I think next season will really be telling. 968 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:22,559 Speaker 4: For sure. 969 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:25,599 Speaker 5: He had to play a lot to start the season, 970 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,400 and I think he started like the first twelve of 971 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:32,480 thirteen games because Gibson was recovering from an appendectomy. But 972 00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:34,760 I think the way that they wanted it to be 973 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,880 split up this season or this past season was having 974 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,480 a fifty to fifty and then maybe whoever's playing better 975 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:42,639 gets a little bit more of the line share. But 976 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,679 Gibson is he just picks up these little knicks, and 977 00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:50,639 unfortunately he was out for a little bit with various injuries, 978 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,159 so that led to Dostaal playing a little bit more 979 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,719 than maybe they anticipated him. But he did pretty well 980 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,519 for the most part. I think, like I said before, 981 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,039 if it wasn't for the goaltend, they'd probably be competing 982 00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,960 with the Sharks and the Blackhawks for the top overall pick. 983 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,519 I think offensively it should be they should be able 984 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,000 to improve the next season and hopefully that will take 985 00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:12,199 a little bit more of a load off of Dose 986 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,159 Staal and Gibson. And as for trade, and it's been 987 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,760 something I feel has been talked about for several years 988 00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,960 with Gibson, and I don't think they don't really have 989 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:24,159 a need to trade him. Like the way they have 990 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,039 the situation set up is fine. They don't really have 991 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,679 an option right now in the HL that can come 992 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880 up and help spell Dostall. Maybe in the event of 993 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,679 the Gibson trade, they just go out and get a 994 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,360 veteran from free agency. But right now, I think it's 995 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,920 just about Gibbson proving that he can be healthy for 996 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,480 a prolonged amount of time. Before the season, he had 997 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:49,199 been injury wise, and I just picked up some unfortunate injuries. 998 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,679 I think a lot of it was just not really 999 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,079 as it was out of his control. I think one 1000 00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,880 of them he got ran into by Drew O'Connor, and 1001 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,280 then another one he ran into again by another player. 1002 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,800 You can't really call that, but I think going into 1003 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,960 the next season having jis Dan Gibson as your tenem 1004 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,239 again isn't a bad thing at all. 1005 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 2: It certainly not as they performed this year. Yeah, great stuff, Derek. 1006 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,880 We really appreciate you spend the time talking to us. 1007 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:15,000 Do you want to tell everyone where to follow all 1008 00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:16,480 your great work on the Anaheim Ducks. 1009 00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:20,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go on Twitter or ex whatever you 1010 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,039 call it at Derek Underscore Lead twenty seven and then 1011 00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:25,960 in my bio there I also have a link treat 1012 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,599 with everything, and you go on YouTube. I post the 1013 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,480 postgame press conferences with the coach should also be under 1014 00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,519 the same US name, So Derek Underscore Lee twenty seven 1015 00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,000 and there's a couple of their links on there like 1016 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,920 Patreon and blue Sky and whatnot. Yeah, you can find 1017 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,559 all my work there. And then obviously the Hockeynews dot com. 1018 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,039 They go to the Anaheim Ducks page. Me and my 1019 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,199 colleague Patrick President, we have all our articles there. Everything 1020 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:54,039 that you want to know about the Ducks is on there. 1021 00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:56,679 So those are the two kind of main places that 1022 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,000 you can find my stuff at. 1023 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,159 Speaker 2: Fantastic and we definitely encourage you all to do that. 1024 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:05,239 Derek's great resource for all things Ducks. And thank you 1025 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,320 so much and we'll talk to you again soon. 1026 00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:09,199 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, right. 1027 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,199 Speaker 3: Will Since then that's good? 1028 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,199 Speaker 1: Fired, past off, Oh my goodness, wrong with a cat 1029 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,000 quick crap. 1030 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 3: Now it's your weekly goalie talk with Kat Silverman, Kat's Instincts. 1031 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman of n 1032 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,400 Gold mag. We're talking Anaheim Duck goalies and to do that, 1033 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,719 we're going to start off with one of the more 1034 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,880 interesting prospect goalies, I would say, especially in terms of nationality, 1035 00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:48,920 the Italian Damien Clara. He was drafted sixtieth overall by 1036 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,679 the Ducks back in twenty twenty three, and after helping 1037 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,039 brin Us get promoted to the SHL last season, he 1038 00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:57,760 bounced around from the J twenty with Ferdistad to the 1039 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,079 HL with the goals, and then the SHL well with Varjistad, 1040 00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:03,679 then the Liga in Carpot, so he's been all over 1041 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,239 the place. His numbers reveal a big a bit of 1042 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,559 the chaos I would say that he experienced. They weren't 1043 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:13,039 great except for Carpot and when he was with Italy internationally. 1044 00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,679 But the other stints were hit and miss, but there 1045 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,599 was a lot of variety there. Looking at his hockey prospecting, 1046 00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,000 he's up to a forty six percent chance of being 1047 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,960 a star and got a bunch of reasonable comps. One 1048 00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:27,920 that he looks a little bit right now is Nikolai Habibullin, 1049 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,119 who is a pretty good player. Kah, what do you 1050 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:31,000 think about Clara? 1051 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,519 Speaker 6: I think he's a lot of fun to watch going 1052 00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:35,840 through because it was a lot of fun going through 1053 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,599 all of his different going through clips from every league 1054 00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:39,159 he's played in. 1055 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,159 Speaker 7: Because he does he's been bouncing around a lot. 1056 00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:44,079 Speaker 6: You can see it in his game, but not necessarily 1057 00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,480 in a way that makes you worry, Like he doesn't 1058 00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,159 seem to be second guessing his saves, he doesn't seem 1059 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,079 to be getting a little too active with his rebounds. 1060 00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:55,320 He's just a little aggressive with his positioning right now, 1061 00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:01,000 which is perfectly understandable because he's moving between different play styles, 1062 00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:06,159 different rink sizes, different overall methods of play, so he 1063 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,400 was staying a little far out of the crease and 1064 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:12,280 just about every clip I saw, which made me feel 1065 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,880 a little antsy watching him, but he tracks the puck 1066 00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:19,000 really well, and even though he was playing a little aggressively, 1067 00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,800 he was still doing a good job of recovering correctly. 1068 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960 He wasn't sending the puck back out into play too frequently. 1069 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,639 Some of the other guys within the system were a 1070 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,679 little bouncier when it came to that, So I enjoyed 1071 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,679 watching everything I saw from him. 1072 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 7: I'd love to. 1073 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,679 Speaker 6: See him spend an entire season just with the goals, maybe, 1074 00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:46,159 which unfortunately, I do think that the Ducks are at 1075 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,320 the point where they have a wealth of riches there 1076 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960 when it comes to their prospects, which cannot be said 1077 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,599 about every team in the league right now, so I 1078 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,360 do think that they're probably going to have to do 1079 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,400 some shuffling if he manages to be one of the 1080 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,559 goalies that sticks with them after this offseason, though, I'd 1081 00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,280 love to see what he can do. The goals are 1082 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,840 a lot of fun to watch, so I think getting 1083 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,280 to see him over a consistent season with them would 1084 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,480 be fun. 1085 00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 4: Nice. 1086 00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:15,119 Speaker 2: Do you think he's the best go Ducks prospect in 1087 00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:16,000 the system right now? 1088 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,599 Speaker 7: That's really tough to say, because they do have a. 1089 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 6: They've at least one guy Thomas Snick, who missed the 1090 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,199 entire season with a knee injury, who is someone who 1091 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,159 I had really wanted to watch, and Vielov Boutillettes is 1092 00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:36,159 also a lot of fun to watch, but I don't 1093 00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,440 think it's quite as good as Damian Clara is, and 1094 00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:44,400 obviously Cali Klang is a I would say probably still 1095 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,440 their de facto top prospect. But I would say that 1096 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:53,119 if we see a really consistent North American season from Clara, 1097 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,679 he could easily flip flop in the rankings there. But 1098 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,840 I do think that we would need to see what 1099 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,280 he can do over an entire season, because sometimes that 1100 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,599 adrenaline from playing through the chaos can almost booy a player, 1101 00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:09,440 and then when you settle them down, some of the 1102 00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:12,519 holes in their game become a little more apparent. So 1103 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,760 I think we could see it go either way for him. 1104 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,639 But I enjoyed what I saw, and I think if 1105 00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:21,800 he's not even if he's not their clear top prospect, 1106 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,039 he's I would say he's one of their blue. 1107 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,639 Speaker 7: Chip for sure. 1108 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 4: All Right. 1109 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 2: I did jump ahead a little bit because I was 1110 00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:33,840 wondering about that, and he certainly has a lot of 1111 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,920 potential let's move over to Keli Klang. You did mention 1112 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,679 him already, and yeah, he was acquired from Pittsburgh a 1113 00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:42,519 couple of years ago. Even though he may be their 1114 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:45,119 de facto top prospect right now. As you mentioned, he 1115 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,920 has trended down the last couple of seasons in terms 1116 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,440 of his save percentage. He was up at nine oh 1117 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:53,039 four a couple of seasons ago in the AHL and 1118 00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,559 a small sample size, and eight ninety seven last season, 1119 00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,920 and then down to eight ninety five this season with 1120 00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:01,280 a heavier workload thirty two thirty one games these last 1121 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,880 two seasons in AHL, even though his GAA was a 1122 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,559 little bit better. He's also injured now. But in terms 1123 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:12,000 of his ultimate upside and how you see him, what 1124 00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:13,920 have you seen from him in his progression? Where do 1125 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,559 you think he's at? 1126 00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:18,119 Speaker 6: I feel like, obviously I never want to see a 1127 00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:20,880 player injured, but I'm almost glad that he's getting a 1128 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,559 little bit of a hard reset here because it looked 1129 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,360 like over the more and more recent the games were 1130 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,039 that I saw him in, it seemed like the teams 1131 00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,480 were starting to figure him out a little bit, and 1132 00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:38,400 they were figuring out he's a very sort of rhythm 1133 00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:41,119 based goal He really moves fluidly. He does a good 1134 00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:44,760 job of staying on his feet, and when he does 1135 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,159 drop to his knees, he moves really smoothly. But it 1136 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,360 seems like teams figured out that he does like to 1137 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,840 move back and forth, and we're figuring out that pattern 1138 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,400 to his movement and we're picking apart some of the 1139 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,880 holes in his game and making him look a little 1140 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,719 more sort of stuttery in terms of how he was playing. 1141 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,239 So I'd love to see if after an off season 1142 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:10,000 of rest, recovery, healing, getting a chance to just reset 1143 00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:13,440 his game with a coach, if we can see him 1144 00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:18,679 put together how crisply he moves with adding a little 1145 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,760 bit of unpredictability into his game. And I think he's 1146 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,480 one of the goalies in the past that we've talked 1147 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,360 about needing just a little bit more sort of creativity 1148 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,119 to his game to really give him that extra edge 1149 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:33,199 against some of the more talented shooters, and it seems 1150 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,039 like that is the case as of right now. So 1151 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,840 hopefully he'll figure that out, But as of right now, 1152 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,199 I'd say that's the big thing stopping him from. 1153 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 7: Easily moving up to the NHL level. 1154 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 6: Other than the fact that the Ducks currently have I 1155 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,280 would argue one of the two best rookie goalies in 1156 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,039 the league right now. 1157 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,199 Speaker 2: It definitely seems to me like Anaheim knows how to 1158 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,840 do goalies. Do you think Klang still has like one 1159 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,800 A upside, like starter upside one B. Where do you 1160 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,119 think he realistically tops out? 1161 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 7: I'd say probably one A one B. 1162 00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 6: I don't think if we're looking at him in the 1163 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,880 vacuum of their system, I don't think he has more 1164 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,599 upside than Lucas Doshdall has, So I think that automatically 1165 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,079 just shunts him down to being a one B at 1166 00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,320 best within what they have. I think for other teams, 1167 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,239 if he cleans up his game a little bit, he 1168 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,199 could have starter upside for them, But I don't think 1169 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,920 he has quite enough spark in his game to put 1170 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,639 him up on the same tier as Doshdall. 1171 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,199 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Lenny of doshtell Love here to go around, So 1172 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,679 no problem with that on my end, But that makes 1173 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,400 sense if we go somewhere else, he could be maybe 1174 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,079 a week starter or one A. That seems reasonable to me. 1175 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,760 Let's move over to the next Guylav Bhutitz. He's a 1176 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,079 twenty twenty two six round pick six, four hundred and 1177 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,719 eighty five pounds, came to North America. Mostly played in 1178 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,400 the ECCHL. This past season. Did have some pretty good 1179 00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:13,760 numbers for Tulsa the Tulsa Oilers. He played a couple 1180 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,440 of games for the San Diego Goals. It didn't go 1181 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:19,960 particularly well, but small sample size and it was good 1182 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,119 for him to get a lot of games consistently with 1183 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,360 one team, I would imagine. So what do you think 1184 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,480 about Boutitz. 1185 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 6: I really like his positioning. I think he has a 1186 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,320 lot of work to do with his actual game technique. 1187 00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,639 His game perfectly suited for the COCHL, which is not 1188 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,000 to say that I think that's where he belongs permanently. 1189 00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:44,239 But he does a really good job of not getting 1190 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,760 too aggressive, not coming out to challenge too much when 1191 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,760 he gets nervous. But his rebound control was not the 1192 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,760 best of the goalies that I have watched recently. To 1193 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,239 put it as nicely as possible, he doesn't seem to 1194 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,039 have a good handle on tracking his releases either. So 1195 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,920 against ETHCHL players, when you know you're not able to 1196 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,079 see quite as much creativity from the shooters, you're not 1197 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,000 going to see those second and third shots that are 1198 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:16,840 quite as quality as the first one. 1199 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,039 Speaker 7: That's totally fine. 1200 00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:21,679 Speaker 6: That is where he got picked apart during his brief 1201 00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:25,400 stints in the AHL, though, so I think that's something 1202 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,320 that can be cleaned up. Because his overall positioning instinct 1203 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,400 and his tracking looked pretty good too. That's the stuff 1204 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:39,199 that takes a lot more time and risk to improve 1205 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,719 within a player's game. But the nitty gritty of his 1206 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,639 game is what he still needs to clean up. I 1207 00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:49,559 would say, far more than any of the other goalies 1208 00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,159 within their system. I think he could have a really 1209 00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,639 high upside, but right now he has probably the most 1210 00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:56,679 work to do of I would say their top four 1211 00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:57,800 goalie prospects there. 1212 00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:02,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. And the last guy that we're 1213 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,920 going to talk about. You mentioned him when I oppose 1214 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,519 you that general question, but Thomas Ukanik. Unfortunately, we didn't 1215 00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,320 really get to see much from him because he was 1216 00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:15,679 pretty much injured all season, which was disappointing because we 1217 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:19,400 were looking forward to seeing a second strong HL season 1218 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,239 from him. But I'm not sure if we learned anything differently, 1219 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,840 but any news on the injury or what we can 1220 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,960 expect from him next season and where he fits in 1221 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,719 this pecking order. 1222 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,719 Speaker 7: No news that I've seen that changes anything. 1223 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 4: Really. 1224 00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 6: I do think that because he was out with a 1225 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,119 knee injury, that's going to make things really tricky because 1226 00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:40,440 he is so based on his timing and rhythm, and 1227 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:46,199 sometimes when you see the soft tissue injuries to knees hips, goaltenders. 1228 00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:47,199 Speaker 7: End up moving a little bit slower. 1229 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,639 Speaker 6: You see them favoring one side or another, and when 1230 00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:53,039 they're so based on rhythm like he is, that can 1231 00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:55,599 create a really slow curve to getting back to where 1232 00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:59,719 they were. Just thinking about some of the NHL's goaltenders 1233 00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,239 who have dealt with a lot of those types of 1234 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,480 injuries and played that style of game like Anti Rontin, 1235 01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:08,320 Peter Morazak or two that I think of who sometimes 1236 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400 take a really long time to come back from. 1237 01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:12,239 Speaker 7: Some of those knee and hip injuries. 1238 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's a really fun one to watch 1239 01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:19,079 when he's healthy, and like I said, I think he 1240 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:25,079 probably sits ahead of Bouttes in terms of quality in 1241 01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:27,599 the pecking order, but I don't know how long it's 1242 01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:29,519 going to take him to get back to where he was. 1243 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,639 And like we've mentioned, they have a lot of good 1244 01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:37,480 goalies in their system. It's not like we're looking at 1245 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,280 a quartette of twenty eight year old free agents that 1246 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,880 they signed to minor league deals as their goalie prospects. 1247 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,719 They have a ton of really quality, high end goaltending prospects, 1248 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,440 and they have a very good young goaltender at the 1249 01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:57,000 NHL level already, so it's not like they need to 1250 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,639 move anyone up immediately, and that kind of creats what 1251 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,199 could become a log jam. We might end up seeing 1252 01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:06,039 him playing in the EHL next year just to get 1253 01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:09,000 his feet under him, or seeing him play in limited starts, 1254 01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:13,679 which normally we'd want to see someone really getting a 1255 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,920 ton of starts to get themselves back in the swing 1256 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,679 of things. I think if he is trying to regain 1257 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,559 strength and confidence with lateral movement almost giving him more 1258 01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,840 time to work on the rehabit pt and strength building 1259 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,320 side of things, and then getting a few starts here 1260 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,000 and there as he builds back into it, it might 1261 01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:32,039 even be the better way to go. 1262 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 7: So we might not see as much of him next 1263 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,960 year either. That being said, there are a lot of 1264 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:36,599 teams that have. 1265 01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:43,199 Speaker 6: No goaltenders in their system looking at Philadelphia, so if 1266 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,960 there is a summer to potentially deal away one of 1267 01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:51,159 their closer to being ready prospect, this would be that summer, 1268 01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:54,199 so he could end up with a spot a little 1269 01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:55,280 bit sooner rather than later. 1270 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really funny. It's like my student. Sometimes the 1271 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,760 ones that need to do the extra work or have 1272 01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:05,239 more of a buffer for their grade are not the 1273 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,440 ones that do it. It's the ones that are already 1274 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,480 doing well. And the Ducks have a great one of 1275 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,960 the best, great young goalies, and they don't need all 1276 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,199 these great prospects, but they have them anyways, have. 1277 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 6: All this extra credit they've done just sitting in the 1278 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,320 It works for me. We get to go to the 1279 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:21,760 HL games all the time. They're here in San Diego 1280 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,920 with us, so I'm not complaining about the quality of 1281 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,400 goaltending I get to see on a regular basis. 1282 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,239 Speaker 7: But I think the other teams probably are. 1283 01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you're right. Probably a good time 1284 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,320 to leverage that and trade for something else because the 1285 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,280 Ducks do want to make the playoffs next year and 1286 01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:42,039 they can do it. Yeah, thank you for giving us 1287 01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:45,360 your instincts on the Anaheim Ducks goalies cut you are welcome. 1288 01:02:48,199 --> 01:03:08,519 Speaker 3: We'll be back right after this Dynasty day, Victor, we 1289 01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:11,119 are here to talk about the Ducks. And even though 1290 01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:14,559 the success was not on the ice this year, there 1291 01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:18,239 are some heavy hitters in today's segment. Those heavy hitters 1292 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,920 start out with your no brainer. Who is a Victor. 1293 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,239 Speaker 2: No brainer for the Ducks is gonna be Beckett Seneke 1294 01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:30,400 twenty twenty four, third overall pick, to the very big 1295 01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:33,880 surprise of him, as we've all seen on the video, 1296 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,039 six four hundred ninety four pounds, thirty six goals, fifty 1297 01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:39,840 six and eighty six points in fifty six games for 1298 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,519 ohl Oshawa this year, who was, ifire recall correctly, is 1299 01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:47,079 back in the Ohl finals with London. Should be fun 1300 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,039 if you're following along all right at this point, it 1301 01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:54,199 might have already been over. But fantastic season in his 1302 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,920 Draft plus one season, he exceeded his point totals from 1303 01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,320 last year in far fewer games, always with you want 1304 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,719 to see and so far two points per game in 1305 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,960 the playoffs. He had a pretty great playoffs last year 1306 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,119 and good end of the season, and this year it's gone. 1307 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,000 It's gone above and beyond. That's what you want to see. 1308 01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:12,960 So I'd love to see that for Beckett. Looking at 1309 01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:17,079 his player card from Mitch Brown, his overall score ninety nine, 1310 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,800 offense ninety eight, transition ninety seven, defense seventy two. Pretty fantastic, 1311 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,480 though overall numbers is expected goals really high, two standard 1312 01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:29,760 deviations above expected primary assists is like top two point 1313 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,199 five percent of the league. Great stuff. His transition, good 1314 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,840 controlled entries and exits for the most part. He also 1315 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:41,599 has some pretty good defensive plays, board battles, off puck assists, 1316 01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:44,000 all that kind of stuff. Basically, he's killing it in 1317 01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:47,480 the OHL. The only thing that's slightly not excellent but 1318 01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,199 really good is the defensive play, So the corsey against 1319 01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:52,639 and some of the retrievals maybe a little bit not 1320 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,960 quite as good, but overall hard to complain. If you 1321 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,199 look at my FHL player card, you can see I 1322 01:04:58,239 --> 01:05:00,960 have him at a seven point five to fifty two 1323 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,559 percent chance being a seven out of ten, which is 1324 01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:07,800 a pretty high mark there. His goals assist points all 1325 01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:11,559 one hundred percent tile and shots in the OHL hits 1326 01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:16,920 seventieth percentile and blocks thirtieth percentile. Overall, his bash mostly 1327 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,960 driven by the shots, but pretty good for hits ninetieth percentile, 1328 01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:22,599 So you love to see that pretty high peripheral floor 1329 01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,800 and pretty high point ceiling. That's a pretty good foundation 1330 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,960 in Jesse. But we're gonna hear a little more about 1331 01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:29,880 Seneca from OURFHL scout. 1332 01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,039 Speaker 3: We share our Victor and FHL scout. Jeremy is on 1333 01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:38,360 the case here. Seneca's skating sneaky good. Not the fastest, 1334 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,880 but not slow either. More importantly, though, his edgework is impressive. 1335 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,920 He reminds Jeremy a bit of Sidney Crosby the way 1336 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400 he likes to stop and go with the puck and 1337 01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,480 use mohawk turns to open up his hits and create 1338 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:54,719 passing lanes. As a bigger body, this edgework will allow 1339 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,679 him to operate in tight spaces in corners and behind 1340 01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:01,079 the net passing and handling. That's the strongest part of 1341 01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:04,679 Seneca's game. Per Jeremy, He's got high end stick handling 1342 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,880 and crisp passing combined with his edgework. In his size, 1343 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,840 he's going to be a pain to take the puck 1344 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,280 off of. If anything, he's overconfident in his stick handling 1345 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,880 and holds the puck too long looking for the perfect 1346 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,360 pass shooting. Seneca is not a big shooter. He does 1347 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,400 average four plus shots per game in the OHL, but 1348 01:06:22,519 --> 01:06:25,079 he's not a guy you're anticipating a good chance from 1349 01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:27,519 when the puck is on his stick. Almost all of 1350 01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:30,119 his goals this year from below the dots, and despite 1351 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:32,840 seeing him at the point on the power play, some 1352 01:06:33,159 --> 01:06:36,519 he didn't see any one time or attempts. He definitely 1353 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:41,280 prefers to pass then shoot, IQ and envision. Jeremy didn't 1354 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,440 love what he's seen from the hockey IQ. He holds 1355 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,559 the puck a bit too long at times and often 1356 01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:49,239 just floats on defense and Jeremy fields if he were 1357 01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:52,440 a bit more aggressive getting himself into good positions, he'd 1358 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,760 be a much more effective player for checking for the 1359 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,679 most part, coming in as the second or third man 1360 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,519 high in the games, so Jeremy I didn't see as 1361 01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:04,199 much for checking as he'd expect from someone of Seneca's size. 1362 01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:07,360 Defense needs some work. He was definitely more of a 1363 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,119 passenger in the zone and often flewid early looking for 1364 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,599 a stretch pass as a winger, though that concerns Jeremy 1365 01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,440 a lot less than if you were a center. Like 1366 01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:20,039 many top prospects start out, so the best assets is 1367 01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:23,079 sticking in ling and passing the biggest concern. He can 1368 01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:25,960 seem disengaged in time, like he's going through the motions. 1369 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:31,480 Top tier potential first line winger, but not necessarily elite justification. 1370 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:35,159 He's got a nice, complimentary skill set, but Jeremy just 1371 01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:38,000 doesn't see him driving his own offense in the NHL. 1372 01:07:38,199 --> 01:07:40,519 As a secondary piece, he'll make the guys around him 1373 01:07:40,719 --> 01:07:44,559 better fiftieth percent time median outcome would be a middle 1374 01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:45,280 six winger. 1375 01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:46,079 Speaker 2: Justification. 1376 01:07:46,639 --> 01:07:49,639 Speaker 3: If the stick skill doesn't translate to the NHL, Jeremy 1377 01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:51,960 worries he won't be effective enough to be a true 1378 01:07:52,159 --> 01:07:55,239 scoring line player. Thinks he's got enough skills to make 1379 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,920 and stay in lineups for a career. Though stylistic comparables 1380 01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:03,159 Dylan Strom and every final thought, he was less impressed 1381 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,800 than expected to be given the stat line and pedigree. 1382 01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:08,400 He's a good player, but Jeremy doesn't see the same 1383 01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,760 superstar potential most top five picks flash. So that was 1384 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,199 Jeremy's take, and thank you for that, our friend. The 1385 01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:20,000 NHL rank King, the Lord Stanley Tidy Ultimate Champion Mason 1386 01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:24,479 Black sent out the poll Beckett Seneca versus Tidjiginla out 1387 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,880 there on x two first rounders from last year's draft. 1388 01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:33,560 Seneca wins in a landslide sixty four to thirty six percent, Victor. 1389 01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:35,199 Is that how you rank them? 1390 01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really tough one between these two. 1391 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,479 Obviously you both really like these players. One thing you've 1392 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,479 seen from Ben Beckett is increasing that scoring. Tij I 1393 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,880 think there's just a big unknown still because he missed 1394 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,960 most of this season with an injury that sounds like 1395 01:08:53,039 --> 01:08:56,640 there was a hip problem and surgery was expected to 1396 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,079 miss the rest of the season back in December twenty 1397 01:08:59,159 --> 01:09:02,239 twenty four, So we didn't really get to see that 1398 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,279 much from TJ, and so I think that's a bit 1399 01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:09,279 of the concern here. I still feel like the upside 1400 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,920 is higher with Aginla and so I think I'm gonna 1401 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,600 take Tea, even though there's a bit more of an 1402 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,600 unknown with him because we didn't see as much this season. 1403 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,880 But I really like both these players. I would be happy. Frankly, 1404 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,479 I probably wouldn't make this swap. If I had Beckett 1405 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,720 and someone offered me Tej, I would probably just hold. 1406 01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:31,079 But if you're asking me to choose between the two, 1407 01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:32,880 I think I do prefer Teach. I think there's a 1408 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,880 little bit of a higher upside there. There's a little 1409 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,359 bit of concern with the hip injury, but there is 1410 01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:41,800 such a tantalizing upside there. The kid's a gamer with 1411 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,680 his dad and the bloodline, so I love to see 1412 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,720 that his pnhle still remains a little bit higher, even 1413 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,000 though he missed a lot of this season. If you 1414 01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:54,239 just go out from what he's produced so far in 1415 01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:56,880 his limited twenty one games, the player card for Mitch 1416 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,560 Brown for teach Againla was one hundred percent, one hundred 1417 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,239 for off, that's one hundred for transition, ninety four for defense. 1418 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,000 So if you just want to compare those player cards, 1419 01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:07,560 it does have Tea's just a little bit higher. I 1420 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,199 actually had my ranking, which I need to update, as 1421 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,920 a little bit lower for again La seven point one seven. 1422 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,119 Part of that is just baked in the the injury 1423 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,119 question marks, but I do think that the upside is 1424 01:10:19,159 --> 01:10:21,439 maybe a little bit higher there. If you look at 1425 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,880 the hockey prospecting between these two, both kind of trended 1426 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,560 down a little bit after a pretty modest draft season 1427 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,239 in terms of their potential, but again Las went down 1428 01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:35,560 a little bit less, and so he's still at thirteen 1429 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,039 percent Seneca at nine percent, both pretty high in the 1430 01:10:40,079 --> 01:10:44,000 sixties at NHL or probability, so they're really close to 1431 01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:47,199 one another. I think I'm taking again La though in 1432 01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:50,760 a by a hair by I nose. Looking at the 1433 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,880 some other comps for Beckett Seneke, there's a bunch of 1434 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,800 reasonable ones. I think one that probably makes sense is 1435 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,840 Matthew NY's. He has this kind of Simil trajectory in 1436 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,680 terms of the star potential, and he's turned out to 1437 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,079 pretty pretty solid player and really good complimentary piece to 1438 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,520 those stars. I think he's one of those stars now 1439 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,279 in Toronto and certainly has turned out to be quite 1440 01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:16,520 a playoff performer. So I think that's a good one 1441 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,680 for Beckett's still pretty optimistic on her on him looking 1442 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,760 at the top down hockey model with Jay Fresh Seneca 1443 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,880 ten percent chance of being a star, forty six percent 1444 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,159 chance of being in NHLer, So all pretty optimistic there. 1445 01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:35,119 Speaker 3: Jesse boy again, law, what a tees that guy is. 1446 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,000 But I'm bomb Victor. Who's next is your need to 1447 01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:39,680 know prospect? 1448 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 2: Next guy on the list is going to be Sasha 1449 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,119 Pastajov twenty twenty one, third round pick, sixty six overall, 1450 01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:49,600 six foot one hundred and eighty seven pounds. He had 1451 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,680 an interesting season this year, so he had forty five 1452 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,239 points and forty three HL games. He also spent some 1453 01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:59,079 time with the Tulsa Oilers in the ECHL where he 1454 01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:03,000 had sixteen points in twelve games, so overall it was 1455 01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:07,239 pretty successful, looking pretty good, especially with that HL time. 1456 01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:09,399 Last year he was in the AHL and had twenty 1457 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,319 three points in forty six games, so half point per 1458 01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:14,880 game is not bad, but this was a huge improvement, 1459 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,199 going over a point per game, So that shoots his 1460 01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:22,199 optimism right back up, and so we're pretty excited to 1461 01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,439 see that. My FHL player card is still a little 1462 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,680 bit OPTI pessimistic on him. I would say four point 1463 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,439 five four is what I had him at. Yeah, his 1464 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,600 AHL time is pretty appealing, but also he's going to 1465 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,920 be twenty two this summer, so he's not past his 1466 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,640 prime or anything. But most players you might expect to 1467 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,800 be a little most players you might expect to be 1468 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,560 a little bit more ahead of the game, ahead of 1469 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,279 the curve there. So just a little bit worried that 1470 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,199 he's not gonna be able to fully translate to that 1471 01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:52,600 to the NHL. But so far, his HL numbers have 1472 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:57,359 been fantastic. His shots ten at a ten one hundred 1473 01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:01,399 percentile assistant points as well nighth percentile for goals. His 1474 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,560 hits are pretty low, though, just thirtieth percentile. His blocks 1475 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,039 though really high, so eighteighth percentile. So overall, the bash 1476 01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:11,159 looks pretty good for Sasha Pasta Jov. But let's hear 1477 01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:13,399 a little bit more about him from our HL scout. 1478 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 3: VHL scout Jeremy says about postage Jov, he is a 1479 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,800 week skater, got a wide, lumbering stride that is more 1480 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,880 fitting of a bigger guy. If something holds him back, 1481 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,039 it'll be this. Past Yov is a great passer. The 1482 01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:29,800 puckets on and off of his stick quickly and accurately, 1483 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,000 and a great shot. Rister is hard and accurate. He's 1484 01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:35,199 able to tee up a one timer from the flanks, 1485 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:36,920 and if he can keep it up in the NHL, 1486 01:13:37,319 --> 01:13:41,079 he'll be a big scoring threat. IQ. He's got good 1487 01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:44,199 hockey IQ. It allows him to be in position even 1488 01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,239 if his speed isn't there for checking. Didn't see much 1489 01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:51,640 of that in the views that Jeremy had. Defense not great, 1490 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,800 but passable. The big question is if he'll look lost 1491 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,039 against NHL level competition. So the biggest asset passing and shot. 1492 01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:03,000 Biggest concern is the top tier outcome here, Jeremy thinks 1493 01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:06,800 second line scoring winger with powerplay time. That's because he's 1494 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,119 got the shot and the skills to create offense. He 1495 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,039 won't ever be a complete player, but may find a 1496 01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:16,840 spot as an offense first guy. The median outcome though 1497 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,319 a tweeer. If the foot speed isn't there, he's not 1498 01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:21,439 gonna have much of a shot. The game's just getting 1499 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,359 faster and faster. He already looks slow against ah Elers. 1500 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,680 Stylistic comparable is the cult hero Daniel Sprung. Our friend 1501 01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:34,439 NHL rank King Mason Black sent out the poll, Sasha 1502 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:40,520 passiof versus Issach rosen and rosen In or route sixty 1503 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,880 one to thirty nine, Victor. Is that how you'd rank 1504 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:44,279 these two? 1505 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was tough. I think both these guys are 1506 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,760 depth options that I would probably see if I could 1507 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,039 get someone else. Quite frankly, they both have had good 1508 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,079 HL seasons. Now this was both there. Actually this was 1509 01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:04,119 Versus's third season, and so it's taken him a little 1510 01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:07,079 bit longer to get to that production, which is always 1511 01:15:07,159 --> 01:15:09,199 a bit concerning. It's nice that he got there fifty 1512 01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:11,239 five points in sixty one games. He had fifty points 1513 01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:14,239 in sixty seven games last year. Sprinkle in there. He's 1514 01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:17,560 had fifteen NHL games where he has one assist. So overall, 1515 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,199 that's my biggest concern between these two is that they're 1516 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,079 a little bit Their production of the HL is good, 1517 01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:27,119 but typically good production when you're a little bit older 1518 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,800 tends to translate to a modest NHL performer, not an 1519 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,479 elite NHL performer, So that's my concern with them. I 1520 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,439 probably would take Verssenne because he's had a little bit 1521 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,159 more experienced there, and I think there's a little bit 1522 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:44,439 more versatility. I agree with Jeremy's assessment when I have 1523 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,359 seen passers off play the skating is the speed, it's 1524 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,279 just a little rough, and I really worry that he's 1525 01:15:50,319 --> 01:15:51,960 not going to be able to hang. It's a little 1526 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,239 less of an issue for Rosen, and I have seen 1527 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,640 He's not the biggest guy, but I have seen him 1528 01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,119 improve his physicality and tenaciousness around the puck. So I 1529 01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:03,800 would go with the people here take Rossenn. I have 1530 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,079 Rosenne as a five point sixty five. By the way, 1531 01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,840 so sixty five percent chance of being an average roster player, 1532 01:16:09,239 --> 01:16:11,920 which is a little bit better than Pasta Jov. The 1533 01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:15,520 bash will probably not be great with Roseenne though he 1534 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,560 does shoot a fairmount, but he doesn't really hit her 1535 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,800 block at all. At going to be tough in terms 1536 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:26,680 of the holding for the peripheral floor. Looking at the 1537 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,399 hockey prospecting between these two, Sasha Pastajov ended up with 1538 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,600 a higher percent fifteen percent chance of being star. Wars 1539 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,439 Enne was pretty much zero the last couple of years, 1540 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,640 but that's partially because it was so low when he 1541 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,279 started out. In the j twenty he has increased it 1542 01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:43,239 quite a bit. It just hasn't reflected in the model. 1543 01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:48,840 So some decent comps for Pasta Jov. There's Keith Primo 1544 01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:52,680 and someone who busted out, and then a reasonable comp 1545 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,960 I would say someone like Pavelo, Dodo Fiev and put 1546 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,199 If Dodo Fiev who's doing really well. It did really 1547 01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:01,640 well this season for Vegas. I think Pastor Joff could 1548 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,199 end up being something like that, more of an offensive specialist, 1549 01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:05,960 maybe needing a bit of a sheltered role, but in 1550 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,960 the right situation could really excel. Dorofiev has so that's 1551 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,680 what we'd be hoping for. With Pastor Jov, that's a 1552 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,560 little bit less likely just because of needing that shelter toll, 1553 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,760 but you never know. Looking at the top down hockey model, 1554 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,520 with Pasta Jov three percent chance of being a star 1555 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,000 twenty four percent chance of being an NHL are so 1556 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,399 a little bit more pessimistic there, but that's where we're 1557 01:17:27,399 --> 01:17:28,119 at with past Jov. 1558 01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:32,720 Speaker 3: Jesse very good and third to keep your eye on 1559 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,000 prospect Victor. 1560 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,079 Speaker 2: Keep your eye on is going to be Tristan Luno. 1561 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,399 So Tristan Luno twenty twenty two, fifty third overall pick 1562 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,800 for the Ducks, six to one, one hundred and ninety 1563 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,800 four pounds, right handed d This season was a little 1564 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,560 bit interesting. He did have some games with the big club. 1565 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,359 He had a couple of games last year too, so 1566 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,319 overall just thirteen NHL games and three points to go 1567 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,399 with it. None this year, but his HL production was 1568 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,079 pretty strong this year. He missed most of last season 1569 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:07,399 and so that was something that we were really curious 1570 01:18:07,399 --> 01:18:10,039 about how would he bounce back. But fifty two points 1571 01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:12,279 and fifty nine HL games for the San Diego goals 1572 01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:15,840 is a pretty emphatic statement that he's back as someone 1573 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,199 who can produce at the professional level. He hadn't really 1574 01:18:18,279 --> 01:18:21,439 done that yet. His last season in the QMJHL was 1575 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,960 pretty great, but you want to see how they translate professionally, 1576 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,960 and so far, so good. His FHL player card five 1577 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,560 point twenty five is what I have him at, twenty 1578 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,439 five percent chance of being an average player. I think 1579 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,520 there's more offensive upside there, but the low percent is 1580 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,000 just because I'm not really sure about his overall game. 1581 01:18:37,319 --> 01:18:39,920 His scoring was good in the AHL. His shots were 1582 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,720 eightieth percentile, blocks or sorry, hits were seventy percentile and 1583 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,560 blocks we fortieth. So overall the bash should be above 1584 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,479 average around the seventieth percentile, and that's pretty decent Perferle 1585 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,439 floor if the translate at the scoring doesn't fully translate. 1586 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,800 But let's a little bit more about Luno. From our 1587 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,920 VHL scout. 1588 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,399 Speaker 3: Jeremy has this to say. They have Tristan Luno effortless skater. 1589 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,760 Isn't particularly faster explosive, but Jeremy was impressed that I 1590 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,880 would close the gap and handled forwards bearing down on him. 1591 01:19:09,359 --> 01:19:13,159 Luno's a classic transitional D capable of making crisp passes 1592 01:19:13,279 --> 01:19:17,079 both a transition and in zone. He's got a hard 1593 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:20,159 one timer that's been able to showcase on San Diego's 1594 01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:23,600 power play. Jeremy didn't see many opportunities for Luno to 1595 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,840 shoot off the rush, though IQ vision anticipation elite. Luno's 1596 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,199 one of the more mature twenty year old defenceman Jeremy 1597 01:19:32,279 --> 01:19:35,239 has seen. Thinks he's better than a shutdown guy, but 1598 01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:39,479 worst case, he'd be very successful at that makes he 1599 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,920 closes gaps, makes impactful plays, and makes it all look easy. 1600 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,920 Defense great stick isn't a huge bruiser, but uses his 1601 01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:49,439 body positionally to box out in the corners and in 1602 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,359 front of his own net. Also willing to block shots, 1603 01:19:52,359 --> 01:19:55,880 as any modern defenceman must. So the best asset was 1604 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,760 the IQ in positioning. The biggest concern a lack of dynamism. 1605 01:20:00,119 --> 01:20:02,600 Jeremy thinks he's a good player, but questions how he'll 1606 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,800 distinguish himself from the other Ducks defenseman. The top tier 1607 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,239 outcome could be a big minute, top two defenseman with 1608 01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:12,000 lots of offensive impact. That's if he gets the chance 1609 01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:15,479 to step into an offensive role where he could really blossom. 1610 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,840 He already showed a ton of growth in San Diego 1611 01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:20,159 this year, so we'll see where he ends up on 1612 01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:25,760 next year's chart fiftieth percent percentile outcome, the median outcome 1613 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,079 middle pairings, shutdown defenseman because he's got a great defensive 1614 01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:31,920 skill set in IQ. Depending on how the Ducks other 1615 01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:35,039 prospects pan out, he may not be pressed into offensive 1616 01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:38,399 duties the way fantasy managers hope, but Jeremy could see 1617 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,159 him being deployed similarly to how maybe most Cider has 1618 01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:43,760 been where they always seem to find somebody else to 1619 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:48,640 run power play one stylistic comparable Devin Taates and the 1620 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,000 final thoughts, Jeremy really wants to see him at the 1621 01:20:51,079 --> 01:20:54,199 NHL level next year. Obviously had a flashy season compared 1622 01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:58,119 to Zellweger and Mitchikov, so he thinks people will be 1623 01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:01,439 tempted to bump Luno ahead of those too. I don't 1624 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,279 want to. Jeremy doesn't want to estimate understate the difference 1625 01:21:05,279 --> 01:21:07,359 between getting your feet wet in the NHL and playing 1626 01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:10,640 in the AHL. And of course Lacombe really established himself 1627 01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:14,720 this year too. In a perfect world, Jeremy thinks those 1628 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,640 are the four Anaheim top four d in three to 1629 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,000 five years, probably with Luno playing big even strength minutes 1630 01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:23,359 but not the power play. But if one or two 1631 01:21:23,399 --> 01:21:25,880 of those guys bust, Luno could be in line for 1632 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,760 power play too, even power play one time. In addition 1633 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,199 to that top four slot, he thinks he's one of 1634 01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:35,479 the safest defensive prospect bets to be a regular eighteen 1635 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:41,000 minute plus guy in his prime. The NHL Rankking Mason Black, 1636 01:21:41,119 --> 01:21:45,840 Tristan Luno versus Luca Kegnoni of the San Jose Sharks, 1637 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,319 and Kegnoni is the big winner, sixty nine to thirty 1638 01:21:49,359 --> 01:21:53,239 one percent. Victor Cagnoni Luno, How you got him? 1639 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely going with the people here. I it's 1640 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,319 interesting hearing what Jeremy had to say about Un. I 1641 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,239 didn't never really see him that way. He's talking more 1642 01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:07,920 and most Cider. I've always thought of him more a 1643 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,439 offensive specialist who wasn't as good defensively. It sounds like 1644 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,560 his game has evolved quite a bit, so that's good 1645 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,960 to hear. I do think that Cagnoni is probably more 1646 01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:21,760 what you would want in your traditional fantasy asset. He 1647 01:22:22,079 --> 01:22:24,680 has been running the top power play for the Barracuda, 1648 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,640 who have been a really good team this year fifty 1649 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,560 two points in sixty four games, three points in six 1650 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,039 playoff games, including generating just a ton of really great 1651 01:22:33,079 --> 01:22:35,920 A chances for some of the Sharks. Fars haven't always 1652 01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:39,720 finished as you would like, and so I definitely think 1653 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,039 Kegnoni is the one I'd rather have. Plus, they don't 1654 01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:44,520 really have an air parent. Some people might think it's 1655 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,800 Sam Dickinson, but I do think Dickinson is more of 1656 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,720 an all round kind of guy. And with the draft lottery, 1657 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,880 it seems like they are not getting Matthew Shaeffer. Even 1658 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,159 if they did get Shaeffer, I'm not convinced that he 1659 01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:57,800 would be necessarily the top power play and I think 1660 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,239 that organization has really started to like Cagnoni quite a 1661 01:23:01,279 --> 01:23:04,520 lot in that role, and so that's always great to 1662 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,239 see there's some institutional support there. Organizational support, I do 1663 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,279 think that, and seeing Cagnoni get a little bit of 1664 01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:15,439 NHL action was also great to see this season, shows 1665 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,720 a little bit more trust from the organization's six games 1666 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,760 he had to assist he was running the top power play. 1667 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,479 So I'm definitely taking Cagnoni. I have Cagnoni as a 1668 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,479 seven point five to seven on my rankings. I had 1669 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,560 Luno at a five point two five, so for me, 1670 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,159 it's pretty clear I'm taking Cognoni. Cagnoni doesn't really bash either. 1671 01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:34,560 His hits and blocks are pretty low, his shots aren't 1672 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,520 even that high, so he's definitely more of an assist 1673 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,479 heavy kind of guy. Quinn Hughes esque. I'm not saying 1674 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,560 he's going to score that many points, but in terms 1675 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,239 of not having as much perferal coverage. Looking at the 1676 01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:48,199 hockey prospecting between the two, Cagnoni up to fifty one 1677 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:51,800 percent chance of being a star. Luno graduated this season 1678 01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,079 at thirty percent chance, so still pretty good both in 1679 01:23:55,119 --> 01:23:58,039 the high sixties to seventy percent chance of being an NHLer. 1680 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,680 So you like to see that in terms of Leuno, 1681 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,119 some of the other comps that seem reasonable for him. 1682 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,119 Mike Green is someone who I think he might look 1683 01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:08,960 a lot alike. Now that now Jeremy's saying more of 1684 01:24:09,079 --> 01:24:12,960 a most cider, but I think Mike Green in terms 1685 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,760 of the a little bit more offensively inclined. Maybe not 1686 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,520 as best all around, but that's my sense. Looking at 1687 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,359 the top down hockey model for Luno five percent chance 1688 01:24:22,399 --> 01:24:24,199 of being a start, ninety percent chance of being an 1689 01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:26,039 NHL or is where he's at, so a little bit 1690 01:24:26,079 --> 01:24:28,840 more pessimistic there. 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