Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, fifteen minutes fast in the hour of two o'clock.
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Speaker 1: and as it is every single day, it's gonna have
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a warm week. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: scorching hot weekend. We're gonna get some rain and colder
Speaker 1: temperatures coming up next week. As we are about to
Speaker 1: turn our calendars to June. Wild at twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: is already almost half way over. I'm getting old time
Speaker 1: is going very very fast. It's also a mental construct.
Speaker 1: I did not take an edible before the show. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna go down that rabbit hole today. But hello,
Speaker 1: how are you happy? Wednesday? Halfway through that work week,
Speaker 1: one day closer to the weekend. We're gonna do some
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs on the show today. Both the West and
Speaker 1: the East appear to be over. Maybe not, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it. Oklahoma City is looking to punch their ticket
Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals tonight at six point thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, ESPN still has.
Speaker 1: NBA basketball on their platform, even though their coverage could
Speaker 1: not be worse, and the I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: They're part of the new deal moving forward too.
Speaker 1: But anyway, t Wolves, Thunder Paycom Center, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: The Thunder are trying to advance to the NBA Finals
Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty twelve, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if Minnesota can at least make it interesting tonight. Oka
Speaker 1: See is a healthy favor that is a tough place
Speaker 1: to play even when they're not very good, and they're
Speaker 1: historically special this year, so we'll see if oka See
Speaker 1: can get it done tonight and advance to the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: The Indiana Pacers really dictated the tempo last night, and
Speaker 1: that really is the story. We'll talk about it, but
Speaker 1: the Knicks were never really able to figure things out
Speaker 1: rotationally on defense. A lot of bad closeouts, a lot
Speaker 1: of bad miscommunications, a lot of wide open shots for
Speaker 1: the Pacers in a historically brilliant game from their point
Speaker 1: guard Tyree Saliburton. And apparently we're supposed to debate whether
Speaker 1: or not he's a superstar.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we'll do that today. But the Pacers
Speaker 1: lead it now in the East three games to one,
Speaker 1: and they'll try to close it out at the Garden
Speaker 1: tomorrow night at six o'clock on TNT.
Speaker 2: It could be the final.
Speaker 1: Iteration of Inside the NBA on TNT before they move
Speaker 1: over to ESPN. And I think the Knicks will win
Speaker 1: it on Thursday and then they'll go back to Indiana
Speaker 1: where it feels like it's the Pacers and six. But
Speaker 1: we'll get into it on the program today. It is
Speaker 1: a game day for Raal saw Lake.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not.
Speaker 1: Our local soccer club is in action tonight at six
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Speaker 1: are taking on Austin. I think it's Austin FC. I
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Speaker 1: We'll see if ourselves able to you.
Speaker 2: Know what play?
Speaker 1: Well, how about that? We'll just go with that today.
Speaker 1: So a lot to do on the show. University of
Speaker 1: Utah football program welcoming in a bevy of recruits coming
Speaker 1: up for the twenty twenty sixth class.
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, they'll be on campus.
Speaker 1: We'll get to some Utah football recruiting news, the latest
Speaker 1: on the college football landscape with the new CFP format,
Speaker 1: conference realignments, the SEC and the Big Ten flexing their
Speaker 1: muscles continuously, so get to the latest on that. There's
Speaker 1: some nil stuff that Kirby Smart had some comments on today.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Stefan Diggs continues to prove why this
Speaker 1: younger generation needs to stop filming and posting everything. At
Speaker 1: some point it's going to get in trouble. But we
Speaker 1: do have OTAs and Pro football as there is a
Speaker 1: little bit of NFL to get to on the program today,
Speaker 1: So good guest list for you guys. On a Wednesday afternoon,
Speaker 1: we'll welcome in Tim mcmahn NBA Daily, as his style.
Speaker 1: We're a number of weeks away, but not that long
Speaker 1: away from the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2: A lot of rumors surrounding.
Speaker 1: The Utah Jazz, who at this point have five and
Speaker 1: twenty one in the first and a couple of second
Speaker 1: rounders as well. Could the Jazz get in the mix
Speaker 1: to move up potentially maybe add a more exciting piece.
Speaker 1: We'll do some Jazz offseason. We'll preview tonight's game and
Speaker 1: talk Knicks Pacers as well Neil Smith. The NHL playoffs
Speaker 1: also continue to roll along, and Utah Hockey Club made
Speaker 1: some signings today. Nothing all that notable, but will excuse me.
Speaker 2: The Utah Mammoth.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take him innute Utah Mammoth with some transactions today.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it and we'll ask Neil Smith about
Speaker 1: his take on what the hockey club needs to do
Speaker 1: this offseason. The Panthers are going to try to close
Speaker 1: out the Hurricanes tonight. They have a three to one
Speaker 1: lead in the East Finals. All four series in the
Speaker 1: NHL and the NBA are three to one. Kind of
Speaker 1: a bummer because Game seven's rule. Maybe somebody actually show
Speaker 1: up and and show.
Speaker 2: A little fight, but we'll left to see.
Speaker 1: So Neil Smith stops by today three o'clock Jason Christ
Speaker 1: RSL club Legend. We'll preview tonight's match and we'll talk
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Speaker 1: At any point last night, did you think the next
Speaker 1: we're gonna win that basketball game?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: It didn't feel great.
Speaker 4: It didn't feel great really all all night long, really
Speaker 4: the second half more so than any But when you
Speaker 4: give up that amount of point Spence, I've said it
Speaker 4: all series long, there's a certain way the Knicks have
Speaker 4: to beat Indiana. Now, you take a w whether it's
Speaker 4: one fifty nine or seventy seven to seventy eight, but
Speaker 4: when you turn it into like a track meet, you
Speaker 4: turn it into what yesterday was kind of like a
Speaker 4: helter skelter loose ball.
Speaker 3: Bonanza. I don't even know what to call it.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: It was garbage basketball much of the game, and Indiana
Speaker 4: took advantage of that. They got more depth, They got
Speaker 4: guys that run the floor well, they got guys that
Speaker 4: don't just foul randomly because they're bored. Karl Anthony, Town's
Speaker 4: phenomenal player in certain moments Spence and then he forgets
Speaker 4: that he's playing professional basketball.
Speaker 3: Blows my mind.
Speaker 4: But anyway, No, I didn't really feel real good about
Speaker 4: the Knicks at any point yesterday, because when you give
Speaker 4: up like fifty points in the first quarter, you don't
Speaker 4: win many basketball games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were hanging, but they were running up
Speaker 1: and down with the wrong team to run up and
Speaker 1: down with. It's like, inevitably this is going to come
Speaker 1: back to bite you. Please stop playing at this pace.
Speaker 2: It won't work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And actually they played I think like ten guys
Speaker 4: in the first half, which was surprising to me. Maybe
Speaker 4: conserving a little bit of energy for your guys later
Speaker 4: on in the game. But then you're down by twenty again,
Speaker 4: and I know that's seemingly where the Nicks have been
Speaker 4: comfortable this postseason.
Speaker 3: But you can only get away with that so many times.
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Speaker 2: Thoughts on last night.
Speaker 1: You know, ultimately this Nick team is really really good,
Speaker 1: and maybe with the right matchup, this would look differently.
Speaker 2: I don't think their championship caliber.
Speaker 1: I never thought that they were, and honestly, I thought
Speaker 1: that they were going to get smoked by Boston in
Speaker 1: the second round. And there's a case to be made
Speaker 1: that Jason Tatum stays upright, the Knicks aren't in the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals.
Speaker 2: In a way, this was kind of ahead of schedule.
Speaker 1: Okay, So they go all in on trading five first
Speaker 1: round picks for Michel Bridges. Four of those were unprotected,
Speaker 1: so they sacrificed their future draft capital, and they did
Speaker 1: that just last off season.
Speaker 2: They move off R. J.
Speaker 1: Barrett and some other pieces to bring in o Giannooby,
Speaker 1: who's been really good for them.
Speaker 2: They sign him.
Speaker 1: Jalen has evolved to be much better than they ever
Speaker 1: thought he would be. They move off of Julius Randall
Speaker 1: and Dante Dimonceenzo to bring in Karl Anthony Towns, which
Speaker 1: was fine. I mean I like Dante, and that hurt
Speaker 1: their depth a little bit. But really, when you understand
Speaker 1: what the Knicks have been doing, it is with the
Speaker 1: idea of what Boston is probably gonna have to do
Speaker 1: this offseason. Like I don't think even the Knicks themselves
Speaker 1: thought they would be in the Eastern Conference finals because
Speaker 1: they put this team together to capitalize on potentially the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. Once Boston has the second Apron tax bill
Speaker 1: come due and they have to break this group down,
Speaker 1: and that could happen the offseason, I think Boston's gonna
Speaker 1: have to move off of somebody, whether it's Drue Holliday,
Speaker 1: Derek White, Jalen Brown, Tatum of course out for an
Speaker 1: entire year. So the Knicks kind of built incrementally and
Speaker 1: slowly to try to capitalize next year when Boston has
Speaker 1: broken this thing down. The problem is that Pacers are
Speaker 1: crashing the party. And it's probably just simply time to
Speaker 1: say the Pacers are a better deeper team than the
Speaker 1: New York Knicks. And here's one of the issues that
Speaker 1: is presenting himself. Rick Carlisle has played eleven or twelve
Speaker 1: players all year long, fifteen or more minutes. Tom Thibodeau
Speaker 1: has played basically six and a half players The one
Speaker 1: player off the bench who he trusts has been Mitchell Robinson,
Speaker 1: who is now starting. Miles McBride has had a good year.
Speaker 1: I like Deuce, he's a good shot maker. Didn't do
Speaker 1: much last night, but Delon right, Landry Shammitt precious that
Speaker 1: you have been on ice and I applaud Tom for
Speaker 1: trying to be a little bit more adaptable and going
Speaker 1: deeper in his bench. But when you just have done
Speaker 1: this over the past couple of games against a team
Speaker 1: that has played eleven twelve guys fifteen plus minutes for
Speaker 1: eighty two games and now three rounds of the postseason,
Speaker 1: it's you're up against it, like you can't expect Delon
Speaker 1: to be ready. And I think Delan has given Tom
Speaker 1: some good defensive minutes. But the problem is, and you
Speaker 1: guys remember watching Delon write as a ute, he was
Speaker 1: a dynamic ball in hand offensive playmaker in addition to
Speaker 1: a really good defensive guard. And when it comes to
Speaker 1: Delon with ball in hand on offense, he's peeing down
Speaker 1: his leg. He had a double dribble that looked like
Speaker 1: he was playing junior jazz last night, Like his offensive
Speaker 1: confidence is gone.
Speaker 2: He did knock down a corner three. But he does
Speaker 2: not look like.
Speaker 1: Delon Wright, the offensive initiator, ball in hand, decision maker
Speaker 1: that we had here in Salt Lake for the utes,
Speaker 1: because he hasn't been playing. So I applaud Tom for
Speaker 1: trying to pull this off. And Landry Shammitt has given
Speaker 1: him really good minutes both defensively, and he's actually been
Speaker 1: okay on offense.
Speaker 2: He had three assists and only eleven minutes last night.
Speaker 1: But the problem is you're asking guys who have been
Speaker 1: on ice to now step up in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: Finals and give you ten to fifteen minutes when you
Speaker 1: haven't been playing them. And I'm gonna sound a little
Speaker 1: bit like I'm contradicting myself because I think Tom has
Speaker 1: to do this, But it's a day late and a
Speaker 1: dollar short because they're not ready for the stage. And
Speaker 1: it's not Delon's fault, it's not Landry's fault. They just
Speaker 1: haven't been playing. And that's why all you're long you
Speaker 1: hear this criticism like look, and this is I talked
Speaker 1: about this the final game of the Celtics series. With
Speaker 1: about six minutes left in the fourth quarter, it was
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten to seventy six and Jalen Brunson
Speaker 1: was fighting over screen set by zab your Tillman Boston's
Speaker 1: like fourteenth dude, like Joe Miszula had given up, and
Speaker 1: Tom had his starting five in the game when they
Speaker 1: were up forty points with six minutes left in the fourth, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a time to let Delan get his feet underneath him.
Speaker 1: That's a time to let Landry Shammitt dust off some
Speaker 1: rest or precious a chewa just get some run. And
Speaker 1: so Tom Thibodeau is forgotten more about basketball than any
Speaker 1: of us will ever know. And I'm not necessarily sitting
Speaker 1: here calling him out for this, that or whatever, but
Speaker 1: this has been a bit of a coaching mismatch. And
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle is a championship coach with a really good team.
Speaker 1: And look, I know we're supposed to like do the
Speaker 1: first take thing where we're debating who Tyres Saliburton is
Speaker 1: in the ecosystem of NBA basketball. He's an All Star,
Speaker 1: he played for Team USA, He's one of the handful
Speaker 1: of the best league guards in pro basketball. Last night
Speaker 1: didn't change that for me. Just because he had a
Speaker 1: historical game doesn't mean I'm going to change the way
Speaker 1: I talk about him one day after a great game.
Speaker 1: But he was very aggressive right off the tip. And
Speaker 1: when ty Reese is aggressive like that, this team is
Speaker 1: a problem. Okay, So he goes thirty two points, fifteen
Speaker 1: as says, twelve rebounds. Most impressively in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: Finals against a desperate Nick team, he didn't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over once as the primary lead guard for the Pacers,
Speaker 1: which was just spectacular. Aaron Ne Smith ended up giving
Speaker 1: Rick thirty three minutes of excellent defense on Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson had three shots in the final eight minutes
Speaker 1: of the fourth Jalen Brunson and Kat had four points
Speaker 1: combined in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: And how many.
Speaker 1: Assists do you think Jalen Brunson has had to Karl
Speaker 1: Anthony Towns during the Eastern Conference Finals If I had
Speaker 1: to get if I asked you to guest off the
Speaker 1: top of your head, how many assists all series long
Speaker 1: do you think Jalen has the cat?
Speaker 2: I'm pausing for dramatic effect. The answer is one. One.
Speaker 1: We're about to go to Game five now, one assist
Speaker 1: from Jalen the Cat. They don't play well together offensively.
Speaker 1: If the Knicks are going to take the next step
Speaker 1: they've got, they've got a cat problem. Even though at
Speaker 1: times Kat looks like he's dominant, I just don't know
Speaker 1: that Kat kind of feels like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know this to be true, but in the next generation,
Speaker 1: Kat kind of feels like the type of player we're
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about in the way we talk
Speaker 1: about Carl and John and Barkley and Peyton and Kemp
Speaker 1: and Patrick ewing Right, great talented players, they never won
Speaker 1: championships because they were just never the guys that could
Speaker 1: get it done when the moment demanded it at its highest.
Speaker 2: But credit the Pacers. They're deep, they're good, They're a problem.
Speaker 1: And it does feel like we are high speed ahead
Speaker 1: to an Indiana ok C NBA Finals and I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: Her media members bitch and moan about having to travel
Speaker 1: to those two cities.
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Speaker 9: The Oklahoma City Thunder looked to punch their ticket to
Speaker 9: their first NBA Finals since twenty twelve tonight, as they
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Speaker 2: Our next guest joins us on.
Speaker 1: A weekly basis, and as I often wont to do
Speaker 1: day to day, I'm walking the dog this morning, I'm
Speaker 1: listening to the Hoo Collective with our guy. So Tim McMahon,
Speaker 1: right out of the gates, I know the question to
Speaker 1: ask you, is it now time to talk about Tyree
Speaker 1: Halliburton as a legitimate superstar NBA player.
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to. He's in the conference finals
Speaker 5: for the second straight year. He's a game away from
Speaker 5: going to the finals. And the man just had thirty two,
Speaker 5: twelve and fifteen with no turnovers. Plus I mean, look,
Speaker 5: I get small market blah blah blah. This dude is marketable.
Speaker 5: This dude has sizzle. This dude talks crash and backs
Speaker 5: it up in emphatic fashion. Yes, I was. Haliburton's absolutely
Speaker 5: a superstar. And again, you know, as I said on
Speaker 5: the podcast, like dude, he went through Johns, he went
Speaker 5: through Dontan Mitche, He's going through Jennon Brunson. If you
Speaker 5: keep knocking out superstars and probably belong in their company.
Speaker 2: I lead say, would you rather have Halliburton or Donovan?
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you have to say Haliburton simply
Speaker 5: because you know, two straight years he's been to a
Speaker 5: stage that Donovan has not been able to get to
Speaker 5: you and you know, I think Donald's the heck a player.
Speaker 5: They are different players, but Haliburton has proven that he
Speaker 5: is the engine to an elite offense on a consistent basis,
Speaker 5: and you know it's proven playoff success. Uh, there's there's
Speaker 5: not a lot of guys who can say, you know,
Speaker 5: as Stars thirteen, they've been back to back conference finals.
Speaker 5: We'll see. There's him I'm talking about right now. There's him,
Speaker 5: and there's Aunt, you know, and Aunt's about to go
Speaker 5: home and Alberton's about to come here to Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: Halliburton or Brunson. Who would you rather have?
Speaker 5: Again? You got to I Bolter start telling you, and
Speaker 5: what the results say. I love Jaymeen Brunson. He hasn't
Speaker 5: been able to beat Albert. He's been outplayed in this series.
Speaker 5: And you know what it is a little bit I
Speaker 5: will ackowledge there's a little that's a little bit unfair
Speaker 5: because he was hurt last year during that series. If
Speaker 5: he doesn't get hurt, you know, does he does he
Speaker 5: do the Knicks win that series? The Pacers not going
Speaker 5: to the conferences, okay, but head to head, look, Brunon,
Speaker 5: Brunson's getting his numbers, Alberton's getting wins, and they just
Speaker 5: they don't have an answer for alburning honestly, Like I'm
Speaker 5: not going to sit here and tell you that Albert
Speaker 5: some kind of deacon to stop, but we know he's not.
Speaker 5: But Carlile and Halliburn are pretty louselessly hunting once and
Speaker 5: right now, and that is really benefiting the Indanifacers.
Speaker 2: Halliburton are calling sectionon, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Am I gonna have Collin sextion in Dallas? Is he
Speaker 5: gonna beat in my backyard by the end of the summer.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've got to reach to get jazz
Speaker 1: topics here, but I will non secuitur to try to
Speaker 1: talk a little jazz as we're just a few weeks
Speaker 1: away from the NBA Draft and Tim, you know the deal,
Speaker 1: Like every time anybody writes a whole like hey off
Speaker 1: season primer, what are we going to see? The Jazz
Speaker 1: are heavily mentioned as a team to watch out for,
Speaker 1: so I know where your attention and energy has been.
Speaker 2: I read everything. You're right, and I listen to your pods.
Speaker 2: But we are in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything for this fan base about what
Speaker 1: you're hearing as far as the plans for the Jazz
Speaker 1: this offseason?
Speaker 5: In those obviously you know they're they're very rebuild. They're
Speaker 5: going to be uh it's not aggressive shopping guys at least, well,
Speaker 5: can you listen aggressively? I don't know if that's saying
Speaker 5: I'm saying, but you know, like John Collins taken in
Speaker 5: very long term plan. You know, Colin Sections may or
Speaker 5: may not be, but will certainly. You know he's not
Speaker 5: untouchable by any stretch of the imagination, and he's going
Speaker 5: to come up with the you know, the ad talks
Speaker 5: of Mattericks. I'm sure to Matters absolutely need a stop gap,
Speaker 5: you know, primary initiator. You know it's not really a
Speaker 5: point guard just but I won't say point guard, but
Speaker 5: a stop gap lead guard who can transition into a
Speaker 5: sixth man role once Kyrie comes back and the section
Speaker 5: would absolutely make a lot of sense there. Now, what
Speaker 5: exactly would the price be? You know, those are conversations
Speaker 5: that they.
Speaker 1: Can ask all right, Yeah, there really isn't anything else
Speaker 1: to ask you about the jazz. So we'll move on
Speaker 1: now before we get out West, Let's let's stick with
Speaker 1: these for a minute, because you know, the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is when you look at most of the
Speaker 1: splits and most of the numbers, it indicates this is
Speaker 1: a very very close matchup. And honestly, if you want
Speaker 1: to look at the glass at full as a Nick fan,
Speaker 1: that game one catastrophe, you know, if Nie Smith doesn't
Speaker 1: turn into Ray Allen circa nineteen ninety eight, it's probably
Speaker 1: two two. I don't think it matters where these two
Speaker 1: teams play tim whether it's New York, Indianapolis, or some
Speaker 1: blacktop playground in the Midwest. It just it's irrelevant. Three
Speaker 1: to one is not insturmountable, but it kind of feels
Speaker 1: like it. I wouldn't be stunned if the Nick send
Speaker 1: this thing back to Indiana, but it feels like the
Speaker 1: Pacers and six.
Speaker 2: That's what my gut says. What say you, Yeah, I would.
Speaker 5: Say that it's not insurmountable, but it's certainly not very mountable,
Speaker 5: you know, And hey, it really does like this at
Speaker 5: this point. It really does come down to an insane
Speaker 5: Pacers comeback and an awful mix collapse in game one.
Speaker 5: If not for that, it's two two. We're looking at it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's anybody's series. But they don't have a
Speaker 5: solution for Halberdie. They don't have a solution for the
Speaker 5: pace that the Pacers. We can say, hey, if not
Speaker 5: for that come back, well, you know there's an old
Speaker 5: saying they didn't really apply in Utah. But you know,
Speaker 5: fi a fist would all be drawn. Yeah, maybe the
Speaker 5: Knicks fans can comfort themselves with a few fists. But
Speaker 5: simple fact of the matter is three one pacers, and
Speaker 5: I have a hard time seeing how how the Knicks
Speaker 5: are going to pull off three in a row with
Speaker 5: two of those having to be on the Indian a turf.
Speaker 1: I agree with that one Nick question. Then we'll get
Speaker 1: back out to the west here. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about this team, and they're probably a
Speaker 1: little bit ahead of schedule because Boston.
Speaker 2: I thought Boston would smoke them in four or five.
Speaker 1: And I think if if Tatum stays upright, Boston's probably
Speaker 1: playing Indiana, and Boston's probably going to the finals. That's
Speaker 1: my opinion. So look, the Knicks probably a little bit
Speaker 1: of had a schedule, but when you look at what
Speaker 1: they need to do to take the next step, the
Speaker 1: splits with Cat and Jalen aren't good. I think Jalen
Speaker 1: has one assist to Kat in the conference finals. I
Speaker 1: think your guy Timmy good time Bontemps dropped that. So
Speaker 1: let's just say that the Pacers are able to get
Speaker 1: this done in six or maybe they win at MSG tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What sort of tweak or movement do you think we'll
Speaker 1: see from the Knicks to try to take the next step,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they can do it with this roster.
Speaker 5: Well, and I would say the question there is not
Speaker 5: so much what tweaked, but is there massive change? And
Speaker 5: I think when you're talking about massive looks, we don't
Speaker 5: know if the honest is going to ask out right,
Speaker 5: but if he does, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 5: of smoke about Grannis to the Knicks. That's certainly the
Speaker 5: realm with possibility. I can tell you that people in
Speaker 5: Minnesota believe that the Knicks made the cat trade. It's
Speaker 5: kind of a one to two ship. They made him.
Speaker 5: They made that trade, yes this year, but also to
Speaker 5: have the option to trade him for a bigger fitch.
Speaker 5: There's not a whole lot of bigger fish in the league,
Speaker 5: but Jannis would be one of them. So you know
Speaker 5: that that's again there's a lot of dominoes that have
Speaker 5: to fall, or one major domocak they would have to falls.
Speaker 5: That have to be a possibility, But that's out in
Speaker 5: the air at least.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Moving out to the west before we get to tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Minnesota the other night beats probably
Speaker 1: I don't know if they beat every team in the
Speaker 1: NBA with the way they were able to play, certainly offensively.
Speaker 1: I know ants taking a lot of criticism. Look, Julius
Speaker 1: Randall deserves a ton of credit for playing really quality
Speaker 1: basketball in the spring, something he has not done very much.
Speaker 2: Throughout his career.
Speaker 1: But the past couple of games he's been watching from
Speaker 1: the bench in the fourth quarter. And I loved Win
Speaker 1: Horst his hit on Van Pelt after the game. When
Speaker 1: Dagnolt was asked, Hey, what did you learn about your
Speaker 1: team tonight? Like nothing, just kind of who we are.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like it encapsulated the entire thing.
Speaker 1: This to me is about an Oklahoma City team that
Speaker 1: is ready, and is deep and is historic on a
Speaker 1: number of different levels as opposed to who Minnesota is not.
Speaker 1: But what were your takeaway's courtside watching what I perceived
Speaker 1: to be a really good game from Minnesota just not
Speaker 1: be enough to knock off this young, upstart Thunder team.
Speaker 5: Well, and I think the biggest thing that we learned
Speaker 5: is that, yes, Jalen Williams is ready for this. He
Speaker 5: is ready to be the number two guy on a
Speaker 5: championship team. They needed for him to have the best
Speaker 5: playoff performance of his career for them to win that
Speaker 5: game with a great shot making performance by all the
Speaker 5: Timberwles role players and Jalen Williams, you know, he he
Speaker 5: answered the bell, So did Chet Holmes. And you know,
Speaker 5: it sounds crazy because Shay had forty nine and ten.
Speaker 5: But I didn't think Shape played great by his standards
Speaker 5: in that game. It was their number two and three guys.
Speaker 5: And then I look, and it's going to get criticism
Speaker 5: since has been coaching his butt off to try to
Speaker 5: get him to make the right play to try to
Speaker 5: get him not to force things. He try to get
Speaker 5: him not to play hero ball. They scored one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty six points. They scored forty one points in
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. Ants, you know, Ant's lack of scoring
Speaker 5: in that game was not the reason that the Timberleves
Speaker 5: lost the game. Now, you'd like to see him impact
Speaker 5: the game in other ways. You'd like to see him
Speaker 5: make wall of the defense fin pack. Okay, I'll listen
Speaker 5: to that, but let's not act like, you know, Ants
Speaker 5: score whatever he finished with, what was sixteen points. I
Speaker 5: think let's not act like that's the reason that the
Speaker 5: Wolves lost. We may lit up the league's best defense
Speaker 5: in large part because guys are getting great looks. Because
Speaker 5: it's done. We're selling out to stopping it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Dagnall did a really smart thing, you know,
Speaker 1: he sits Hardenstein, he butts Chat at the five and
Speaker 1: then So what they're doing is throughout any action with Ant,
Speaker 1: whether it's on ball when he has the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands or off ball when he's trying to get
Speaker 1: open Jalen Williams, he passes him off to loud Dort.
Speaker 1: Lou Dort passes him off to SGA who's six' EIGHT,
Speaker 1: sga passes him off To Alex caruso Or Caseen wallace
Speaker 1: like and then if he's able to get past the
Speaker 1: first line of, defense which he can't do because they're
Speaker 1: sending literally two people at him every time he puts
Speaker 1: the ball in the, deck chats back there at seven
Speaker 1: feet just protecting the.
Speaker 2: Rim. Like, SO I.
Speaker 1: I get the conversation about the greats find a way
Speaker 1: to get it done no matter what the defensive scheme.
Speaker 2: Is BUT i didn't have an issue With ant's decision.
Speaker 2: Making he probably could have been a little bit more
Speaker 2: engaged off the ball to try to get. Open but
Speaker 2: when you are being handed off with four wings who
Speaker 2: are six' five and six' eight and two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty two hundred and thirty pounds all designed, to stop
Speaker 2: you what are you? Supposed to do just four shots
Speaker 2: in double and triple? Teams.
Speaker 1: Every possession like it wasn't really about. HIS individual PERFORMANCE
Speaker 1: i Just i think okase is uniquely Designed to stop
Speaker 1: ant or anybody else individually when that's what they.
Speaker 2: Decide TO do and i thought that's.
Speaker 5: Why, they did yeah and every time if there's a
Speaker 5: little crevice in the defense and he's driving and there's the.
Speaker 5: Second defender coming and look when you drive it in
Speaker 5: the teeth, of this defense that's how you get. A
Speaker 5: lot turnovers, and you know turnovers will just BE death
Speaker 5: against okac because they're so good at converting and they actually
Speaker 5: weren't great at convert, into this game but typically the
Speaker 5: team has had multiple games during his playoffs with thirty plus.
Speaker 5: Points off turnovers they're scoring more points off turnovers in
Speaker 5: the playoffs and any team has since we've been able
Speaker 5: to Track that stat so like just FORCING things and,
Speaker 5: i don't know we want ant to just jacked up
Speaker 5: a Bunch of, like alden, face you know, long jump,
Speaker 5: shots you know and, he was, aggressive real great. He
Speaker 5: was aggressive he went seven, to twenty five, and you
Speaker 5: know and you lose. By twenty five give me. A
Speaker 5: break again the whole point of offense is not for
Speaker 5: you to score as many points as possible for your
Speaker 5: team scores many. Points as possible and a lot of Those,
Speaker 5: Looks That nikhil Alexander Walker and Dante DiVincenzo and jadis
Speaker 5: gans we're getting it was because it's, a chain, reaction
Speaker 5: you know that's with the attention to. The ANT'S commanding
Speaker 5: so i, just, you know look when you're when you're
Speaker 5: a superstar and you're the face, of the team and
Speaker 5: you know he's, in the playoffs especially when there's only one, Game,
Speaker 5: that night yeah there's going to be stuff that comes.
Speaker 5: Along with it but a lot of. This stuff's nonsense so.
Speaker 1: Give me your Opinion On the, julius, randall EXPERIENCE because,
Speaker 1: like i, said you know we should not just completely
Speaker 1: summarily dismiss what he's, done this spring because he has
Speaker 1: been better than he has. BEEN historically speaking, i Don't,
Speaker 1: know man like for, a few years MY buddy so i,
Speaker 1: grew up.
Speaker 2: With they'd, ask me like what do you think about?
Speaker 1: The next chances and my rebuttal, Was, always like okay
Speaker 1: what do You Think if julius randall is your legit
Speaker 1: number Two Next to jalen if you, think he's ready
Speaker 1: Then maybe the. Knicks half something but he's never really
Speaker 1: shown to, be that consistently and he's watched from the
Speaker 1: bench over the past.
Speaker 2: Two fourth quarters so what's fair to Say About the julius? Randall?
Speaker 5: Angle, here tim yeah and two of the past, three
Speaker 5: fourth quarters because in between there he did have a,
Speaker 5: really good game and the, really good games really good
Speaker 5: Performances have been i'd. Been the norm and then look
Speaker 5: all the same stuff we just said about the attention
Speaker 5: to also paying that kind Of Attention to julius ranger
Speaker 5: and and, and you know he's been a non factor
Speaker 5: in two in the, last three games you have both losses.
Speaker 5: For the rules can he be the number two guys?
Speaker 5: And championship team it's hard to say that about to
Speaker 5: get knocked out in. The conference, finals You Know has
Speaker 5: julius randalls First season in minnesota been? A successful campaign i.
Speaker 5: Would say, ABSOLUTE you know i do think that that
Speaker 5: he's proven a. Lot of things now it will be
Speaker 5: interesting you he's got. THE player option i assume they
Speaker 5: looked out. Something long, TERM you know i don't think he's,
Speaker 5: a max player but those negotiations.
Speaker 1: WILL be interesting i have not spoken to you since
Speaker 1: the announcement was made THAT s g a WAS Given.
Speaker 1: The MVP award as i referenced a number, OF different
Speaker 1: times I get the jokic.
Speaker 2: SIDE of this i would. GET that vote i have no.
Speaker 1: Problem with it but now that, it is official has
Speaker 1: been for, a few days what are YOUR thoughts on sga.
Speaker 2: Receiving, THAT award.
Speaker 5: Yeah i WOULD say that i thought. It was, deserving
Speaker 5: you know. He earned it they won. Sixty eight, games
Speaker 5: you know that's the best team. IN the league i
Speaker 5: mean he scored almost, thirty three games, leading the, league,
Speaker 5: extremely efficient fast and he filled up. The box score
Speaker 5: he played a significant role in the number one defensive team. In,
Speaker 5: The league look i'm not going to say here and
Speaker 5: Tell you that joker didn't have a case TO. One
Speaker 5: another MVP you think i. Basically thirty, twelve to me
Speaker 5: there's two, major time breakers one team record way on
Speaker 5: THE side. Of, sga two look if it's the time
Speaker 5: hadn't won It yet open the, Guys WON three so
Speaker 5: i didn't think it was. A difficult vote there were
Speaker 5: one two on. Every single ballot if and SEVENTY one,
Speaker 5: had SGA one if i, had a ballot it would have.
Speaker 1: Been seventy two brings us To Tonight where oklahoma city
Speaker 1: is a very healthy eight point five point favorites tip
Speaker 1: Off six. Thirty mountain time is there Anything you think
Speaker 1: minnesota can do as far, as tactical? Adjustment lineup, switch
Speaker 1: you know is there anything they can do to? Make
Speaker 1: this thing and that is a tough building. To play
Speaker 1: in Do you give minnesota at least a puncher's chance
Speaker 1: and do you think we'll see something different from them
Speaker 1: to try to extend their season or do you think.
Speaker 5: It, ends tonight well all those role players who were
Speaker 5: hitting shots these last, couple of games they didn't hit
Speaker 5: shots in the first. Two games, here you know there's
Speaker 5: the old adage about role players shooting a lot better
Speaker 5: at home in the playoffs and. On the road if that,
Speaker 5: trend continues tonight And then the tims can, just you
Speaker 5: know they don't need to Fly. Back to minnesota they
Speaker 5: can go run ON the cancun i don't know that there's.
Speaker 5: Major tactical adjustments it'll be interested To see what finch
Speaker 5: does to Try to get amps bring it up a.
Speaker 5: Little BIT more but I think the timlewolves hopes of exting.
Speaker 5: In the series the rest, in the know the hands,
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Speaker 2: Right my friend, appreciate the time have, a great week enjoy.
Speaker 5: The, game tonight, okay appreciate.
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Speaker 1: A close game we'll see how, it plays out and
Speaker 1: then of course we'll See if the knicks can extend
Speaker 1: their Series Tomorrow At madison square Garden Against.
Speaker 2: The indiana PACERS.
Speaker 1: As the, nba playoffs rollo we are ALMOST To. The
Speaker 1: nba finals looks like it's going to be a battle.
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Speaker 1: AN era of nba basketball where if You live in Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: you find giannis you can. Win a championship if You,
Speaker 1: live in denver You, find a jokich you. Win a
Speaker 1: championship and apparently you can build Title teams In Indiana.
Speaker 2: And oklahoma city.
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Speaker 1: on the parody era of pro BASKETBALL, in the Nba
Speaker 1: and the jazz are not.
Speaker 2: Ready for it and it's a, big time.
Speaker 1: Bummer all right IT'S not just nba playoff, action GOING
Speaker 1: on also nhl playoff. Action Going on so we're Gonna
Speaker 1: Bring in neil. Smith coming up on, the Other Side
Speaker 1: the utah mammoth have made a couple. Of signings today
Speaker 1: we'll tell you who they are and go. OVER those
Speaker 1: details rsl is, in action Tonight taking on austin. On
Speaker 1: The road jason christ will roll, by later On and
Speaker 1: The university of utah Football program welcome zan a bevy
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six recruits for campus visits coming. Up
Speaker 1: This weekend chris. CAMARADDIE will stop i will do some college.
Speaker 1: Football with, Ck You know big dave. Is In town old.
Speaker 1: MAN'S in town i don't know. If he's listening, he's
Speaker 1: got meetings but, if he.
Speaker 5: Is you just made.
Speaker 2: HIM very. Happy i was, You know what i'll, JUST
Speaker 2: say this i was raised With Too.
Speaker 1: Much, neil young okay there's Nothing Wrong, with neil young
Speaker 1: but all things in moderation and growing up in THE
Speaker 1: household that i Did Too.
Speaker 2: Much neil young i'm not gonna.
Speaker 3: Lie, THAT'S fair, Well i mean i've told you my
Speaker 3: dad took me to like Twenty maybe.
Speaker 4: Thirty, tesla concerts, indeed they're fine, listen, to, fine yeah indeed.
Speaker 3: But, rest, His soul, dude come. On, for sure sure
Speaker 3: let's see.
Speaker 1: A different show that's A lot of Tesla Concerts And.
Speaker 1: Crosby still's nash in my Household, Was, Only crosby Stills.
Speaker 1: Nash and, young so well Welcome In Another neil neil
Speaker 1: Smith on. A, wednesday afternoon neil is there music that
Speaker 1: you get nostalgic for that you were raised.
Speaker 2: With when you? Were, GROWN up well i just want.
Speaker 8: To tell you have you? Answered this question do You
Speaker 8: Know where neil? Young? IS from originally.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't I'm, in The midwest somewhere ohio because
Speaker 1: he wrote a Great.
Speaker 2: Song called ohio i've no idea.
Speaker 8: The Same place neil Smith. Is, from toronto oh.
Speaker 2: LOOK at that a Couple of Great. Neils from toronto
Speaker 2: and his.
Speaker 8: Dad was the sports Editor for. The, toronto newspaper oh.
Speaker 1: He Smokes good Neil Young. Knowledge neil smith. I'm very,
Speaker 1: impressed so, yeah my father, who's in town he. Might be, listening.
Speaker 1: SO hello dad i was raised with a Copious Amounts.
Speaker 1: OF neil young i don't know if you know that.
Speaker 1: ABOUT my dad i think he might.
Speaker 8: Be his, favorite, oh well see he Always likes a neil,
Speaker 8: in his Life.
Speaker 1: And a canadian deal at that, At that, right so
Speaker 1: music what music were you? Raised raised On A young
Speaker 1: neil smith Growing. Up in toronto what were?
Speaker 8: You, raised on, well let's see you're going to AGE
Speaker 8: me when, i TELL you because i was around eight
Speaker 8: nine years Old with the beatles and that was A
Speaker 8: craze like i've never seen before, in my life never probably.
Speaker 8: Will see again. Just TOTAL insanity and i was right in.
Speaker 8: THERE with it I thought the beatles were the greatest.
Speaker 8: Thing on earth, AND you know i remember my father
Speaker 8: WHO departed when, i was ten but complaining about. Their
Speaker 8: long hair and of course their hair and it doesn't look.
Speaker 8: Long at all it looks like just they haven't been
Speaker 8: to the barber. For a week but no that times
Speaker 8: were different there in the early Sixties when the beatles
Speaker 8: came over And Performed.
Speaker 1: ON ed sullivan i Love it and I'm a, huge beatles.
Speaker 1: Guy so impressed? What is it it seems there's got
Speaker 1: to be something in the Water. Up In canada the
Speaker 1: canadians breed so many, talented, like. Comedians musicians actors there's
Speaker 1: like this, creative artistic, bug you know kind of bug
Speaker 1: up there that seems to breed so many creative people.
Speaker 8: WHY is that i don't know. If that's, true Per
Speaker 8: Capita the united states breeds tons and tons, of you know,
Speaker 8: unbelievable TALENTS too but i really don't know why that
Speaker 8: would be if it's. PER capita higher i think maybe
Speaker 8: just that they have a lot of they're not so
Speaker 8: worried about money when They're younger, as americans are and
Speaker 8: because they're not as capitalistic There. As in america but
Speaker 8: that's THE only thing i.
Speaker 1: Can, think, Of okay well i'm just Trying to pay
Speaker 1: Canadians to compliment neil is all On this. Lovely wednesday
Speaker 1: afternoon i'll Tell you, what canadians do breed a bunch of. Great,
Speaker 1: hockey players however for the first time since, nineteen Thirty
Speaker 1: Three the united States Wins The. Hockey World cup and
Speaker 1: i'm not going To pretend like i'm a expert On
Speaker 1: The The, hockey world Championships But four utah mammoth players
Speaker 1: are now, gold medal winners including The CAPTAIN, Of Team. Usa,
Speaker 1: clayton KELLER so, like i said this tournament on my
Speaker 1: radar this year because our local guys were, so well
Speaker 1: represented is this.
Speaker 2: A tournament that moves the?
Speaker 1: Needle for you and what are Your THOUGHTS on team
Speaker 1: usa winning it for the first time in.
Speaker 2: Ninety, Two years yeah.
Speaker 8: I'm just happy they haven't won it. SINCE nineteen three
Speaker 8: i don't quite understand why That's been but canada GOT
Speaker 8: knocked out I think by denmark or something early, in
Speaker 8: the tournament and they had all The They had sydney
Speaker 8: crosby and the group of stars playing. On That team
Speaker 8: so i'm Unhappy For the, united States team. The america
Speaker 8: team i'm Happy for th thompson who scored the overtime
Speaker 8: winning goal because he suffered through a number of Years
Speaker 8: now with buffalo and them not. Making the playoffs and,
Speaker 8: you know what it's Just good for it's good for
Speaker 8: those guys and good for the country and we'll hopefully
Speaker 8: spur on other young athletes to want to.
Speaker 1: Be hockey players the landscape of the future, OF the,
Speaker 1: sport i mean do the majority of the best young
Speaker 1: players Still. Come from Canada Has the united states Closed
Speaker 1: the gap russia when things? Are normal, politically of course
Speaker 1: always in the conversation about one of the, Best hockey
Speaker 1: countries so, Just generally speaking i'm not.
Speaker 2: Asking for specifics the future of the Sport. LIES where
Speaker 2: neil i think it lies.
Speaker 8: All, over The world but, Russia For sure united, states
Speaker 8: for Sure And the united states is closing, the gap,
Speaker 8: Because For example austin Matthews, Comes. From scottsdale Arizona You've
Speaker 8: got clayton Keller Coming, From. Saint louis missouri they're coming
Speaker 8: from all. Over. THE place now nhl players, are talented
Speaker 8: guys and that's because the sport has caught on a
Speaker 8: lot more Now In the united states with the thirty
Speaker 8: two teams being. In the league with the nineteen, EIGHTY
Speaker 8: gold medal i think was very, big for, kids you
Speaker 8: know born, in the eighties born in the, seventies AND
Speaker 8: eighties and i Think That the united states eventually will
Speaker 8: close the gap because there's ten times the Population In
Speaker 8: the united states that We. Have in canada so it's
Speaker 8: what's really good about it is there EVERYWHERE is. Producing
Speaker 8: nhl players and even there's a one, Of, The Players,
Speaker 8: zuker jason zuker who played Last. Year in Buffalo He's,
Speaker 8: from las vegas. Of all things, so you know they
Speaker 8: come from everywhere and it's, good to.
Speaker 1: See All Right the utah mammoth signed a couple of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Three. FIRST rounders dmitri I believe it's Samashev.
Speaker 1: And Then denil but i'm not going to ask you
Speaker 1: to break down who these players are because we don't know.
Speaker 1: Much about them but it is transactionally a. Story around
Speaker 1: here so three year entry level contracts signed by two
Speaker 1: young players are defenseman? And, a forward today just? What
Speaker 1: is that what exactly? Does that Mean What did bill?
Speaker 1: Armstrong do today he.
Speaker 8: Gave him three year, Entry level contracts which is Good
Speaker 8: news for bill and his staff and the fans because
Speaker 8: that means that anyway to this point that they. Were
Speaker 8: successful picks doesn't mean they're going. TO be stars I
Speaker 8: don't And i don't i've never seen, the players MYSELF
Speaker 8: but what i do know that it means is that they,
Speaker 8: like those players they like the, way they've developed and
Speaker 8: they started THEM on. An nhl career whether they have
Speaker 8: to Start In the american league or they START in the,
Speaker 8: nhl right. AWAY who knows i, certainly don't know but
Speaker 8: signing young players is. A good sign.
Speaker 1: Nhl, draft COMING Up The ut hockey club with a. Fourth,
Speaker 1: OVERALL pick again i want to ask you about exactly
Speaker 1: who should they, pick it for because that's.
Speaker 2: Probably an exercise you've got to dig into a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of YOUNG prospects and i continue to, remind our market
Speaker 1: and you're good to. Remind us too we are a
Speaker 1: basketball market for, basically fifty years and we're Used to
Speaker 1: the jazz drafting a rookie who more often than not
Speaker 1: plays for the. Team, right away now they're not always
Speaker 1: ready to, play right away but we, see them typically
Speaker 1: certainly if they're a number. Four Overall pick the jazz
Speaker 1: have a top five pick and they badly need somebody
Speaker 1: to come in and. Play right away so what's, the
Speaker 1: you know and you remind us a lot of these
Speaker 1: young hockey players will not be playing for the senior.
Speaker 1: Club right away most of them don't for maybe, a
Speaker 1: few years if. Not long longer but when you have a,
Speaker 1: top five pick you have a, good young team you.
Speaker 1: Have cap space what are some of the conversations Happening
Speaker 1: With the utah mammoth front office right now in preparation?
Speaker 1: For a draft they could bring bringing them a really really,
Speaker 1: good young piece or they could use that as an
Speaker 1: asset to extraby growth and bring.
Speaker 8: In, a vet well you've pretty well. Summed it up
Speaker 8: if they get the. Fourth overall, pick, it's four right
Speaker 8: not for. It's, for, correct yeah yeah they're going to get.
Speaker 8: A good player they're going to get a. Very good
Speaker 8: player whether he can play this year or not will
Speaker 8: be seen in training camp and judged by, THE coaching.
Speaker 8: Staff i guess but they're going to GET a, definite
Speaker 8: nhl player and it should BE a. Good nhl player how?
Speaker 8: GOOD who, knows i mean these, players are eighteen they
Speaker 8: play either in junior hockey or In in, a european league,
Speaker 8: or in college and it's a very hard barometer to
Speaker 8: use as to how they'll play when they GET to.
Speaker 8: THE na level i know that from talking to your
Speaker 8: dad for years that it's the there's a lot easier
Speaker 8: comparison between COLLEGE, basketball and nba, and you know which
Speaker 8: guys that play in college at a high level we'll
Speaker 8: be able to make IT. Into the nba that's a
Speaker 8: little bit more up in the air when you're talking
Speaker 8: about hockey because there's so many different factors and it's
Speaker 8: really hard to. Make that judgment but the good News
Speaker 8: for the mammoth Fans Is that bill armstrong and his
Speaker 8: scouting stuff will definitely get a good player. At number,
Speaker 8: FOUR all right.
Speaker 1: I want to stick with a couple of offseason storylines
Speaker 1: before we Get to. The final, four, both series well
Speaker 1: every single series IN either the NBA, or the nhl
Speaker 1: we find ourselves at, three to one which is kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer for somebody who just wants To see
Speaker 1: some game sevens and some exciting playoff. Hockey and basketball
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get there. In the finals but Tell Me,
Speaker 1: about mitch marner who is a Center For, the maple
Speaker 1: leaves who is a free agent at the age, of
Speaker 1: twenty eight and whether or not you. THINK he is
Speaker 1: i know that he probably could pick his destination because
Speaker 1: of how highly thought. Of he is but when you
Speaker 1: look At what the mammoth need and, who he is
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's, a free agent it's a name.
Speaker 1: To talk about Tell Me, About Mitch, Martner Neil well
Speaker 1: mitch marner is.
Speaker 8: An excellent Player he's from toronto and Plays For, the
Speaker 8: toronto maypolice so there's a lot of pressure he felt,
Speaker 8: by playing there, and he felt according, to my sources
Speaker 8: that he had unfairly been criticized And, judged in. Toronto
Speaker 8: HIS hometown and. I get that i understand that maybe
Speaker 8: he wants to move on to a place where he's
Speaker 8: not so conspicuous that every time you go, out for
Speaker 8: dinner you know somebody's saying something, to you there interrupting.
Speaker 8: You or whatever and that's what It's. Like in toronto.
Speaker 8: He's very fast he's not. A BIG guy HE'S i
Speaker 8: can't i don't know, his exact measurements but he's he's not.
Speaker 8: A big, guy he's slight but he is can play
Speaker 8: all special teams and, a regular shift so, he kills
Speaker 8: penalties plays, the power play and plays. Five on five
Speaker 8: he got over one hundred, points this year so he's.
Speaker 8: The real deal he's probably best suited on a if
Speaker 8: he Was On a, stanley cup team to be the,
Speaker 8: second line center because you want to, have a big
Speaker 8: more powerful guy at a, first Line Center like Austin
Speaker 8: matthews or nate McKinnon or one, of these, big strong
Speaker 8: guys and then you know you have a great. Second
Speaker 8: Line Center, by mitch marner but he's definitely at the
Speaker 8: top of the, free agent list along with other Guys
Speaker 8: like Brock message from vancouver and.
Speaker 1: A few others So according To greg WICH, nisky from
Speaker 1: espn he lists three teams to make the most sense
Speaker 1: as far as making A Play, for mitch marner and
Speaker 1: the teams he Lists Are, the Anaheim Ducks, the chicago
Speaker 1: Blackhawks And. The utah mammoth bill's got a lot, of
Speaker 1: cap space he's, got salary flexibility he's got. Money to
Speaker 1: spend Do you think utah takes A Look At mitch
Speaker 1: marner and, if.
Speaker 2: They do what do you think?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: LOOKS like Well i think.
Speaker 8: Svence it all it's all going to be in The
Speaker 8: Evaluation of mitch marner and where he. Wants to PLAY
Speaker 8: and when, I say where i. DON'T mean geographically i
Speaker 8: mean is it really important to him that he's on
Speaker 8: a team that Could? Win the cup not, maybe this
Speaker 8: year but he can see them winning in a year or.
Speaker 8: Two or three, if he does he want to be
Speaker 8: on a Team That's got connor madart and rebuilding and
Speaker 8: you may not make the. Playoffs, next year again you
Speaker 8: know that's that's. A good question or is he in
Speaker 8: love with The city of Chicago And With hugh tah
Speaker 8: he put them. OVER the top i think he put them.
Speaker 8: Into the playoffs he wouldn't be the final piece of,
Speaker 8: the puzzle though because you're. Not that close but he,
Speaker 8: HE would, definitely i think propel that team. Into, the
Speaker 8: playoffs again it's all going to. Depend on him does he,
Speaker 8: want to live, first of all in different time Zone
Speaker 8: than the eastern time zone where. He's always lived does
Speaker 8: he want to play? For a contender does he want
Speaker 8: to play for a team that's the middle. Of the
Speaker 8: road does he want to play for a rebuilding team
Speaker 8: and be the superstar of. A, rebuilding team again that's all.
Speaker 8: What's going on or does he just want to go for,
Speaker 8: the MOST money, WHICH i doubt i.
Speaker 1: Really doubt that put yourself in The Shoes Of bill
Speaker 1: armstrong neil as somebody who has been a roster constructor
Speaker 1: at the highest levels. In pro hockey And let's, say bill,
Speaker 1: Calls You know mitch martyer and he talks, to His
Speaker 1: agent and mitch agrees to take A meeting with bill
Speaker 1: and considers Playing For. The utah mammoth what do you
Speaker 1: sell him as far as trying to get him to
Speaker 1: agree to play for, this young group because we know
Speaker 1: that he's going to have a bevy. Of different options
Speaker 1: what's kind of the Selling point that bill has in
Speaker 1: his back pocket for A Player.
Speaker 8: LIKE mitch marner i think all teams now that are
Speaker 8: interested in the free agent market put together a recruitment
Speaker 8: presentation like college teams do when they're trying to recruit
Speaker 8: the best young guys out there because they've got a
Speaker 8: choice to go. Where they want so there would BE
Speaker 8: a whole i would imagine video show that Bring. Him
Speaker 8: into utah they would show Him How Wonderful salt, lake
Speaker 8: city is all the. Opportunity that's there they would show
Speaker 8: him the arena and how. Beautiful that is they'd get
Speaker 8: him to meet some of the key players so that
Speaker 8: he knows that they're. Really good, guys of course the
Speaker 8: coach is going to play a big part of it
Speaker 8: and telling him what role he'll have. On the team
Speaker 8: it'll be a two, or three, day you know visit
Speaker 8: where he'll stay in. The best hotel he'll go out
Speaker 8: for dinner with all, the Significant People including ryan smith,
Speaker 8: and his Wife And obviously bill armstrong And. Obviously coach
Speaker 8: tourney so they'll wine and dine him sort of speak
Speaker 8: to try to sell Him On Why salt lake city
Speaker 8: would be a great destination.
Speaker 1: FOR his career i want to ask you about a
Speaker 1: couple of other players before we get to the teams that.
Speaker 1: Are still playing, and you know IT'S interesting because i
Speaker 1: First Learned about sam bennett during THE tournament Where usa
Speaker 1: played Canada In the four nations and He was Fighting.
Speaker 1: Brady could chuck, And ironically enough sam's teammate that he
Speaker 1: plays really Well with Is matthew could Chuck.
Speaker 2: Down in florida now. They're still playing.
Speaker 1: Sam's twenty nine he is an unrestricted free agent and,
Speaker 1: he you know it's not just his production, twenty five goals.
Speaker 2: Twenty six assists he also had.
Speaker 1: Ninety penalty minutes and there were a LOT of times
Speaker 1: i Was Watching the utah mammoth THIS year where i
Speaker 1: didn't feel like they, had the fight didn't feel like they,
Speaker 1: had the. Grit The physicality so florida probably wants. To
Speaker 1: keep Him But if sam bennett decides to kick the
Speaker 1: tires on, unrestricted free Agency Does the utah mammoth make
Speaker 1: sense as far as.
Speaker 8: A fit GOES i think i don't Know what teams
Speaker 8: bennett wouldn't be, a fit for because. He said could
Speaker 8: he brings an element of nastiness to the Team, along
Speaker 8: with Kachuk Along, with brad marshawn but he also IS
Speaker 8: from what I Understand from paul maurice is, a great
Speaker 8: teammate is a guy that. He Loves coaching sam bennett's
Speaker 8: worked with. THE younger players i know that for, a
Speaker 8: fact himself and it's taking them. Under his wing he
Speaker 8: seems to have all the credentials you'd want to be
Speaker 8: an integral part. Of, the team again he's he can play.
Speaker 8: Both both ways he can, play very physical but then
Speaker 8: he can score. On you too so he's one Of
Speaker 8: those guys spence that when he's on the other team,
Speaker 8: you hate him and then when you get him on
Speaker 8: your team. You love him he's just it's one way.
Speaker 2: Or the, other one more one more.
Speaker 1: Potential free agent just looking at the list as far
Speaker 1: As What The, utah Hockey Claer, the utah mammoth, what
Speaker 1: they need what, they could use the money they have,
Speaker 1: at their disposal and then the ages. Of PLAYERS available
Speaker 1: brock i Believe it's A bozer from vancouver Right it's,
Speaker 1: pronounced besser okay, so right wing twenty, eight years old
Speaker 1: scored forty goals a couple. Of years ago again still
Speaker 1: young and a position of need for. THE hockey club
Speaker 1: i don't know Whether or not vancouver. Wants him back
Speaker 1: i'm reading now that he potentially could make his Way
Speaker 1: to the wild Because he's. A minnesota native And then
Speaker 1: the Hurricanes and the devils mentioned His potential for. Brock
Speaker 1: as well but at the age, of twenty eight, young
Speaker 1: right winger is this a player that could Fit Here
Speaker 1: in salt Lake For.
Speaker 2: The, utah Ammath Yeah and.
Speaker 8: Brock besser could sit. On any team it's unbelievable To
Speaker 8: me that vancouver let. THIS guy walk i can't believe
Speaker 8: they didn't get him signed a year ago and. Wrap
Speaker 8: them up he is a hell. Of a player he's
Speaker 8: an ingredient. That everybody needs he, can score, goals he's.
Speaker 8: Big he's strong he's not Going, back to vancouver he,
Speaker 8: said that already and he's going somewhere else WHERE that is.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't know but whoever gets him is going to
Speaker 8: improve their hockey team. By getting, him.
Speaker 1: All right there are still, Teams playing hockey so let's talk.
Speaker 1: About these teams let's talk. About these series both are.
Speaker 1: Three To one the oilers were able to get it
Speaker 1: done at home again where they have just been dynamic,
Speaker 1: For to one so they're up three to one now
Speaker 1: out Here In. The west final what do you make
Speaker 1: Of the way edmonton's been able to dominate through four
Speaker 1: games And you give dallas a fighting chance to get back.
Speaker 8: In, the thing well they really have dominated through all
Speaker 8: all of the games, in the series because If you,
Speaker 8: remember game one they had a lead of three to
Speaker 8: one going into the third Period and allowed dallas to
Speaker 8: score five goals. In the third so. That's An anomaly
Speaker 8: why edmonton, is so dangerous. There's three reasons they've got,
Speaker 8: two franchise superstars and McDavid and dry cidel who were
Speaker 8: at playing at the top. Of their game they're getting
Speaker 8: secondary scoring, from, their second third and fourth. Lines And Defense,
Speaker 8: and stuart skinner their goaltender that was thought by many
Speaker 8: to maybe be their problem area that they could be
Speaker 8: caught up. With their goaltenate he. Has BEEN phenomenal so
Speaker 8: I don't give dallas. A chance now i did before,
Speaker 8: the series STARTED but when I see how edmonton has,
Speaker 8: turned IT on and i remember last Year's movie when
Speaker 8: edmonton suddenly got better and better as the. Playoffs, Went on.
Speaker 8: No i'm sorry i'd like to Give my Friend peter
Speaker 8: De Boor and JIM. NIL the gm i hope that
Speaker 8: they would come back, in THIS series but i don't see.
Speaker 1: It ALL right before i, Set you loose let's move
Speaker 1: Over to, the East now where florida clearly has.
Speaker 2: Turned It on the hurricanes were able. To get one
Speaker 2: can they at least?
Speaker 1: Get it tonight make it interesting or do you feel
Speaker 1: like it's more or less over out Here.
Speaker 2: In the, EAST you know i.
Speaker 8: Don't know that florida, will win tonight although, if you
Speaker 8: may if you made me pick one team, Or the
Speaker 8: Other i'd say florida's going to. End it tonight And
Speaker 8: the reason i'd say that is because the three guys
Speaker 8: that were out for them that, are important PIECES. WHICH. Were,
Speaker 8: A J, greer Miko mikola And. Sam rein, hard of
Speaker 8: course those three Didn't play in Game. Four in florida
Speaker 8: they're All playing for Florida. Tonight IN carolina So i
Speaker 8: think carolina's. Had their, win you know they've been a
Speaker 8: very strong home. Team all, Year but boy florida is
Speaker 8: so good and has played so, well against them and
Speaker 8: they seem to be. Clicking really well blebrovski's playing. Great in,
Speaker 8: NET so again i. DON'T know that I wouldn't say carolina,
Speaker 8: can't WIN tonight, BUT i would i would bet on this,
Speaker 8: thing ending tonight.
Speaker 2: ALL right before i, say you lose and we'll visit
Speaker 2: with you before the Start Of the.
Speaker 1: Stanley cup playoffs but If it Is, florida and edmonton
Speaker 1: what's the, really early take what's the really early gut feel?
Speaker 2: On that, Series.
Speaker 8: You know I've been saying florida since it was, going
Speaker 8: to win since close to the end. OF the season
Speaker 8: i said. It last year but, you Know what like
Speaker 8: edmonton SCARES me when i say, Scares my prediction that's.
Speaker 8: What it scares it. Scares my predictions and it scares
Speaker 8: me that They're playing, For CANADA now, Like i mean
Speaker 8: canada Hasn't Had a stanley cup since Ninety three WHEN
Speaker 8: Montreal beat pla kings and they look. Really really good,
Speaker 8: So You know i'm i'm Not sure how i'll. SWING
Speaker 8: my thing i think it'll. GO seven games i think
Speaker 8: it'll be a series that you'll it'll. Be JUST dynamic
Speaker 8: AND i GUESS i guess i Shouldn't Be a benedict
Speaker 8: arnold and go back on, my Own pick but i'll Still.
Speaker 8: Go with.
Speaker 2: Florida fair enough neill tell all of our listeners where
Speaker 2: they can go find that. Podcast, to yours well.
Speaker 8: We're doing it. Almost Every. Day email Spence We're doing
Speaker 8: stanley cup dates, after every game and then WE'RE Doing
Speaker 8: The Nhl, wrap round show which we Actually Just had
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Speaker 1: Things, GREAT stuff neil i appreciate. Your time today keep
Speaker 1: up the great work and we'll get.
Speaker 2: You, On, soon okay hey if.
Speaker 8: You're going to see that, basketball guy tonight tell him.
Speaker 8: HI from me i, Will.
Speaker 2: For sure, neil, thank you, sir, be well, okay be.
Speaker 8: Well thank.
Speaker 2: You all right coming up next we will.
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Speaker 1: Christ on. A, Wednesday, afternoon hello jason, how?
Speaker 2: Are you sir most that was, quite the introduction.
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Speaker 5: you isn't about, you be forty, but in fact because
Speaker 5: you know you're going to be speaking to, me next.
Speaker 1: Well you know you're one of, my favorite people which
Speaker 1: leads me, to ask you why have you not been
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Speaker 2: Least two months what gives.
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Speaker 5: You, know that okay that to be careful what. You
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Speaker 2: That fair, enough all right let's.
Speaker 1: Start right here as a man who made his living
Speaker 1: scoring goals, in professional soccer what gives as far as
Speaker 1: the lack. Of potency offensively more last you had a
Speaker 1: couple of goals in the first Tew.
Speaker 2: Minutes against vancouver. Which is great we'll get. To that game,
Speaker 2: but you know? Is it personnel? Is it scheme is?
Speaker 1: It bad luck why the lack of consistent offensive potency
Speaker 1: from the club so?
Speaker 8: Far?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 2: YEAR jay.
Speaker 5: YEAH i mean i think it comes down to one
Speaker 5: one sort of major thing and another sort. OF underlying,
Speaker 5: factor i mean the major thing is that we have
Speaker 5: yet to identify the replacement for a very important player
Speaker 5: that we lost Last, season in chico and so we
Speaker 5: have looked, under some, rocks let's say and we have
Speaker 5: looked at some young players to potentially, become that guy
Speaker 5: and ultimately we feel like nobody's really taken advantage of
Speaker 5: that opportunity that's. Been given them so nobody is providing
Speaker 5: us the answers to the questions that we, seek so
Speaker 5: far so which leads us to be very clear about
Speaker 5: scouting an opportunity. For this SUMMER but then i think
Speaker 5: there's an underlying factor in that we are missing some
Speaker 5: quality and consistency from the players underneath, that striker position
Speaker 5: And That really diego luna is the only one that
Speaker 5: has shown us any sort of consistency, to his performances
Speaker 5: and we need more more than one player out of
Speaker 5: those players that are essentially four positions to create some
Speaker 5: of those. Ghost line chances we'll.
Speaker 1: STICK with what i perceive to be some positive developments
Speaker 1: before we dig into SOME things that i will call problematic, In,
Speaker 1: YOU know jay i think you've got Something in.
Speaker 2: THIS gozo kid i have not watched him grow the.
Speaker 1: Way you have i've only seen Him recently after pablo
Speaker 1: decided he had earned some time with. The SENIOR team
Speaker 1: and i DON'T know that i have a comp that,
Speaker 1: comes to mind but, he's really energetic, he's very bright he's.
Speaker 1: Obviously very young he opened his bank account soccer term
Speaker 1: no big deal soccer guy over here last week by
Speaker 1: finding the back.
Speaker 2: Of the net the same week he.
Speaker 1: Graduated high school and part of me, wants to say
Speaker 1: sign a damn, Grown up please but. We'll get there
Speaker 1: When you watch gozo and as you've, watched him develop
Speaker 1: what stands out?
Speaker 2: Most, to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah he's A player that i've been paying, particular attention
Speaker 5: to REALLY since since i came here now a year and,
Speaker 5: a half ago because he's been stand out, in my
Speaker 5: eyes he's been a difference maker and the teams that,
Speaker 5: he's played with and he, shows, some real. Raw exciting
Speaker 5: abilities and so he's a player that a lot of
Speaker 5: us in the club have been singing praises for, and
Speaker 5: pushing towards pushing the coaches to recognize and pay attention
Speaker 5: to him and. Work WITH him and i think all
Speaker 5: of this has sort of come together here in the last.
Speaker 5: Couple of months and he has certainly earned, everything he's
Speaker 5: gotten there no. Doubt about it you have. Not given
Speaker 5: anything he has earned all the, opportunity he's gotten and
Speaker 5: he's somebody that's taking a hold of those opportunities and.
Speaker 5: Making the difference so extremely excited about how he will,
Speaker 5: continue TO develop because i, still think, he's you know
Speaker 5: as you've as, you alluded to he's shown some, really
Speaker 5: bright spots but there's also some some pretty glaring improvement
Speaker 5: that needs to happen as he. Continues to develop does.
Speaker 2: He remind you of anybody like what?
Speaker 1: Type of player and if it's, NOT a NAME i
Speaker 1: guess i could just ask, you like this what sort of?
Speaker 1: Player is he and what sort of player you envision
Speaker 1: him becoming once. IT'S fully, baked.
Speaker 5: I, think you know he's a player that is a
Speaker 5: guy that likes to, run in behind which is very rare.
Speaker 5: In younger players he understands that, that's his strength is
Speaker 5: to try to receive the ball behind the, opponent's back
Speaker 5: line and then he needs to he needs to, Make
Speaker 5: plays happen so he needs to get into these areas
Speaker 5: that we call primary systems and needs to make. The
Speaker 5: right decision that's a little bit. WHERE he's lacking i
Speaker 5: think he's a tremendous Finisher from. What i've seen high
Speaker 5: level finisher doesn't need a ton of chances to, score
Speaker 5: HIS goals so i think he kind. Of has that
Speaker 5: and he's got an incredible aerobic capacity and that bears
Speaker 5: out in the testing, that we do but it also
Speaker 5: bears out.
Speaker 8: In some of.
Speaker 5: The statistical data the physical data that he's putting out
Speaker 5: is frankly record breaking for. Our first team so he's
Speaker 5: setting a new standard for.
Speaker 2: That, FOR sure okay i wanted to stick.
Speaker 5: With, The.
Speaker 1: Positives oh cobra he continues to, play really well and
Speaker 1: now there's some things we'll get to that. Haven't been great,
Speaker 1: but you know you guys made some summer window editions
Speaker 1: last year that. WE'LL talk about i was curious during
Speaker 1: the offseason if you were going to figure something out
Speaker 1: in goal after an underwhelming campaign With McMath and gavin still,
Speaker 1: being very young, and you know as far as being
Speaker 1: able to hang your hat. ON good decisions i think
Speaker 1: it's safe to say that your keeper has been really.
Speaker 2: Good, this year jay give.
Speaker 5: Me, your thoughts yeah there's no. Doubt about THAT he's probably,
Speaker 5: I would say i don't even. Think it's arguable he's
Speaker 5: been our best, performer this season. Which is great he,
Speaker 5: Really LIKED that and i would say from a, team
Speaker 5: building perspective we have added a PIECE to what i would.
Speaker 5: Consider our core uh and so that's a positive and
Speaker 5: we need to continue. To do that but if you
Speaker 5: want to look at it from a little bit of
Speaker 5: a glass, half empty perspective it's never great when you
Speaker 5: feel like the goalkeeper is, The best performer you've probably
Speaker 5: got other issues you need to. Talk about it if
Speaker 5: the goalkeeper is the best. Player for You so is?
Speaker 2: Diego gone yet? As he left? Are you with Are you? Without? Diego, tonight, no.
Speaker 5: No no no he will go to national team CAMP
Speaker 5: After the.
Speaker 2: La, Galaxy game okay So, You have diego diego for
Speaker 2: the next. Couple of games. Good to know so let's
Speaker 2: move let's.
Speaker 1: MOVE over here i always try, to be fair and
Speaker 1: you know this because you KNOW how fair i am,
Speaker 1: as A human how, i GIVE back, how I care
Speaker 1: how i'm about.
Speaker 2: LEADING with love i don't have.
Speaker 1: To convince you so whether it's on, air off air
Speaker 1: my whole goal every day IS how can i help
Speaker 1: my fellow man? And BE fair so i do not want.
Speaker 1: To Be unfair so i'm going to ask the, question
Speaker 1: like this what is fair To? Say about diogo WHO'S
Speaker 1: the only dp on your roster and you brought him
Speaker 1: in LAST year and i think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are just waiting to.
Speaker 2: See IT work and i know he's picked up a
Speaker 2: little bit, of A.
Speaker 1: Knock and i know there's some things going on with
Speaker 1: him off the pitch that you can allude to. If
Speaker 1: you'd like But the way i'll ask the question is
Speaker 1: what's fair To? SAY about diogo.
Speaker 5: I think it's very fair to say that he has
Speaker 5: not produced in this time here what we had hoped
Speaker 5: for or expected out of the. ACQUISITION of him i
Speaker 5: would say that that doesn't mean that it's, been ALL
Speaker 5: bad because i do think that there was a moment
Speaker 5: at the beginning, of the season in THE preseason where
Speaker 5: i thought things were heading in an. Extremely positive direction but,
Speaker 5: ultimately right now where it fits right now, IS you
Speaker 5: know i think, everybody just, pointed including him, by the
Speaker 5: way he probably more so than, all of us has
Speaker 5: been disappointed. With his performance he's very critical of himself,
Speaker 5: as a person and, so you know it just kind
Speaker 5: of is. What it is and then this happens. In
Speaker 5: professional sports this is never a, ZERO sum game i
Speaker 5: think is the way, to say it or one. Hundred
Speaker 5: percent business we're going, to make mistakes so this may
Speaker 5: prove to. Be a. Mistake we'll see what's the status.
Speaker 2: Of his health is he available for?
Speaker 5: The road trip he has been left off of the
Speaker 5: road trip to. To disciplinary reasons.
Speaker 1: Due, to disciplinary reasons can you shed any light that has?
Speaker 1: Not been announced can you shedding the light onto why this.
Speaker 1: Decision came down it.
Speaker 5: Came down basically because his behavior in the training sessions
Speaker 5: is not up To A real salt. Late, player standards okay.
Speaker 1: So Breaking news diogo gonsalva is not on the two
Speaker 1: game road trip due to disciplinary reasons handed down. By
Speaker 1: the club hard hitting journalism on the little radio Program on.
Speaker 1: A wednesday afternoon, o big, Deal all right so who steps?
Speaker 1: Into that slot who ultimately is going to be tasked
Speaker 1: with trying To play alongside diego and hopefully helping them out. A, LITTLE.
Speaker 5: Bit well i think in the last game Everybody saw
Speaker 5: that gozo played, in his position and then the tactics essentially.
Speaker 5: Changed a bit but now it looks a lot more
Speaker 5: like we're playing, with TWO strikers which i think proved
Speaker 5: effective in the. First two goals to have the numbers
Speaker 5: of players that are involved in the finishing attack phase
Speaker 5: and are entering the penalty box to finish those, Attacks
Speaker 5: is higher so we were quite happy with that and
Speaker 5: quite interested to see it play out a. Little, bit longer.
Speaker 1: Okay so we've discussed the attempts you made during the
Speaker 1: primary transfer window to bring Players Over the BOSNI bosnik
Speaker 1: kid i think that's how you say his name that
Speaker 1: obviously didn't work in the situation with his. Club was
Speaker 1: untenable so we. Know all that so let's talk about
Speaker 1: the acquisitions you did make and what you've. Seen so
Speaker 1: Far Start With, willy willy jagata who has three starts
Speaker 1: in five games played and we're still waiting for a goal.
Speaker 1: From our guy so of course the pe brain soccer
Speaker 1: part of me is just waiting for. Him the score
Speaker 1: are you seeing anything that is positive outside of the
Speaker 1: fact that he has not found the back of.
Speaker 5: The, Net, yet, yeah no absolutely there's been some some
Speaker 5: things he's done for the team and this hold up
Speaker 5: play in his physical presence that has. ABSOLUTELY helped us
Speaker 5: i think he's a player any striker that comes into
Speaker 5: a new system is going. To take time they have
Speaker 5: to understand exactly how and where and when they're going
Speaker 5: to get their. GOAL scoring chances i don't feel like
Speaker 5: he's a player that has had six or eight chances
Speaker 5: and just. Not taken them some of his best chances
Speaker 5: are actually called off due to somebody else being in an.
Speaker 5: Off side position, but you know there's goals. In this
Speaker 5: player he has Scored Goals. For kansas city this isn't
Speaker 5: like a player that has never scored GOALS in the
Speaker 5: mls and we're just kind of. Rolling the dice this
Speaker 5: is a player that has some, history doing it so
Speaker 5: we believe that that THERE'S more and i think it
Speaker 5: could be one one for in the, category of striker
Speaker 5: just needing a little bit of luck in that sort
Speaker 5: of category and one goal comes and maybe the. Flood
Speaker 5: banks open.
Speaker 1: We've only, Seen Johnny once johnny russell once fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: off the, BENCH and look i mean we should. PROBABLY
Speaker 1: set expectations i think you probably. Played against him he
Speaker 1: is not. A young player. There we go there WAS
Speaker 1: the laugh i. Was waiting for and he hasn't been
Speaker 1: with the club for a number. Of different months so
Speaker 1: what can you tell us about the process to get
Speaker 1: him involved and do you think we'll see him?
Speaker 2: More moving forward and also what's reasonable To. Really, expect
Speaker 2: jay yeah.
Speaker 5: This is a really difficult situation, because you know when
Speaker 5: you're not in A team since november and you kind
Speaker 5: of go into the off season, with an injury it
Speaker 5: leaves you in a position where you've got to. Get
Speaker 5: soccer fitness so it's one thing to do the, physical
Speaker 5: fitness testing which he did and. Scored very well so
Speaker 5: from aerobic, Capacity it's there but from a, soccer playing
Speaker 5: perspective it involves so much more than, just you know doing,
Speaker 5: a beat test and so we've got to he's got
Speaker 5: to be built in a smart way and we are
Speaker 5: trying to. MANAGE through that i actually think he will
Speaker 5: be one that will, gain a big big bump in
Speaker 5: his fitness and his readiness when we have this international.
Speaker 5: Break coming up is he?
Speaker 2: On the trip? Is he available is he?
Speaker 7: On?
Speaker 5: The, trip, yes? Yes yes, yes all, right all.
Speaker 1: Right let's Go back to diego. For, A moment okay
Speaker 1: so clearly his star continues to just shoot. Through the
Speaker 1: room and, as you reference after This, two game roadie
Speaker 1: he will exit and he will PLAY with the us
Speaker 1: men's national Team In. The gold cup let me ask
Speaker 1: you this question before we get to how it pertains
Speaker 1: To Your club. Gold cup appearances Can you Remember kyle
Speaker 1: and Nick and even tony before they were. National TEAM
Speaker 1: regulars if, i REMEMBER correctly their us men's national team
Speaker 1: experience started with a really Successful Running. THE gold cup
Speaker 1: I can remember kyle scoring a, Couple of goals nikki.
Speaker 1: Playing really well could this be a conduit to a
Speaker 1: regular Rotational spot for diego WITH the senior us men's
Speaker 1: national team and maybe enough to get him POTENTIALLY with
Speaker 1: the us men's national team so we could see him
Speaker 1: Play In. A.
Speaker 2: World cup yes.
Speaker 5: Without a doubt and, so you know coaches that get
Speaker 5: to work with, the international players they're such. Small windows
Speaker 5: oftentimes and then on, top of that you play in,
Speaker 5: what's called friendlies and so, coaches and, players you know
Speaker 5: tend to be a bit more relaxed, in those games
Speaker 5: so you don't oftentimes get the full view of what
Speaker 5: a player is capable of until they're in a, tournament
Speaker 5: like this a major international tournament that. Lasts several weeks
Speaker 5: but now you have all of the on field data
Speaker 5: that you will need in a competitive environment with a trophy,
Speaker 5: in the line, oneyam the line and you also have
Speaker 5: the social data that you will need when you are
Speaker 5: in and amongst players for two to three. To four
Speaker 5: WEEKS and so i think that this is a major
Speaker 5: opportunity For, not just diego but for all of the
Speaker 5: players that are Part Of this. Gold cup roster the
Speaker 5: one other interesting part OF The way us Soccer And
Speaker 5: the gold cup mix is that typically because it's, during
Speaker 5: the summer most of the big name players Playing in
Speaker 5: big european clubs opt out of, this tournament essentially so
Speaker 5: it allows opportunity for others.
Speaker 1: To Step, Forward All right so pablo hopped on the
Speaker 1: show last week and dropped a little bit Of a
Speaker 1: well i'll call. IT a bombshell i was a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised to hear. Him say it We talked to
Speaker 1: kurt about it a couple Of days after pablo's hit
Speaker 1: because it's clear that there Is, interest in diego and
Speaker 1: as he continues to, grow and evolved there will be Extreme.
Speaker 1: Interest IN diego and i want, To be clear i'm
Speaker 1: not saying that you guys would, never sell him because
Speaker 1: if you get a phone call from a legitimate team
Speaker 1: in a league overseas that wants to pay you a,
Speaker 1: GRIP of money i understand why proof of concept means
Speaker 1: that you'd.
Speaker 2: Probably Take it but pablo said last week the new ownership.
Speaker 1: Group has informed him and you guys that they're no
Speaker 1: longer interested interested in this ethos of developing young players
Speaker 1: and selling them. For a premium the new ownership, group
Speaker 1: has Expressed, according to pablo that they're interested in developing
Speaker 1: young players and keeping him here to. Build a team
Speaker 1: can you shed a little light on what would be
Speaker 1: a very New Mindset.
Speaker 5: For. RAYEL slake yeah i would FIRST say that i
Speaker 5: listened to the Interview, last WEEK spence and i would
Speaker 5: Say that that pablo was probably a little extreme in
Speaker 5: his take of the messaging that we are Receiving because
Speaker 5: And i'm sure kurt probably already did, this with you
Speaker 5: because it's never going to be. AN absolute, right i
Speaker 5: mean we can't make promises and say that we're never going.
Speaker 5: To do this we're going to keep these players is
Speaker 5: because ultimately we have to make the best decision. For
Speaker 5: THE team what i would SAY is that i think
Speaker 5: the new group of ownered majority ownership is a little
Speaker 5: bit more interested in this idea of consistency and of
Speaker 5: keeping keeping players that are really, important to us putting
Speaker 5: a higher premium on them. Than perhaps before, and so
Speaker 5: now if you would just, look at it if you
Speaker 5: want to look at it just from a, Purely financial
Speaker 5: perspective diego's value to us may be higher than we
Speaker 5: are willing. To sell for and part of that value
Speaker 5: is not Just based, upon diego's abilities but based upon
Speaker 5: our longer term view of how we are going to
Speaker 5: have a. Chance, to, win.
Speaker 1: Okay yeah. That makes sense and, first of all thank.
Speaker 1: YOU for listening i know you're. A huge fan. Appreciate the,
Speaker 1: YEARS and LOOK i mean i don't want to ask you,
Speaker 1: for A number because i don't know that a number exists,
Speaker 1: where you're, like all right if we surpass, this many
Speaker 1: million then we. Make the decision but let's dig into
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of what a decision. Like that
Speaker 1: entails because the fact of, the matter, is right now
Speaker 1: when you look at the production, Of the club diego
Speaker 1: with eight goals, and three assists and then there are
Speaker 1: five players, with a GOAL and then i have as
Speaker 1: many goals as the third place goal scorer. On, your
Speaker 1: Roster okay so diego is, carrying a, massive massive load
Speaker 1: and it's tough to imagine even though the start has
Speaker 1: been hard and the points have been tough, to come by,
Speaker 1: without his contributions it's tough to imagine where you. Guys
Speaker 1: would be but at, the same time, to your point
Speaker 1: you know there is a certain threshold that would be
Speaker 1: met that would make this decision very hard to. Say
Speaker 1: no to so what goes into your decision making process
Speaker 1: is to whether or not you hold on to them
Speaker 1: or you move.
Speaker 2: Off, OF them.
Speaker 5: Well i think you START with what, i just described,
Speaker 5: which is essentially you know what is the value For Us,
Speaker 5: of diego luna and you don't just, consider right now
Speaker 5: you have to. Consider replacement value you have to consider
Speaker 5: the relative franchise value that could be. Going up significantly
Speaker 5: if we win something or if we're consistently, competing for
Speaker 5: championships the value of the franchise. Goes way up so
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 8: It's a big.
Speaker 5: Math math problem but then also let's not forget that
Speaker 5: there's a, player, involved here right and this is oftentimes,
Speaker 5: where most people, including even us. Tend to forget, but
Speaker 5: You know what diego wants is ultimately going to be,
Speaker 5: important as well because he's if, he ends, up you
Speaker 5: know we if, we let's, stay for instance we want to, Keep,
Speaker 5: him forever well he that's not. In his plans he
Speaker 5: at some point wants, to be calm an internationally. Elite,
Speaker 5: level player well then we have to consider. That as
Speaker 5: well so there's just a lot of things that go.
Speaker 5: Into the decision it's.
Speaker 1: It's not simple would be interested to follow up with
Speaker 1: the thought of where his head is at because he
Speaker 1: seems like a. Really nice kid he seems like a
Speaker 1: Player that appreciates pablo and. Appreciates the club, There, are
Speaker 1: Moments jay, if I'm honest where i'm watching games and
Speaker 1: he appears to be frustrated that he is not receiving
Speaker 1: the help.
Speaker 2: Around him that. He needs it where? Is his head
Speaker 2: where is his head?
Speaker 1: Out right now do you sense any frustration from him
Speaker 1: because he's, been so bright but you guys. Aren't winning
Speaker 1: games do you sense that he is ten toes, on
Speaker 1: the ground, as they say and he wants? To be
Speaker 1: here where can you shed some Light on where diego's
Speaker 1: head might be?
Speaker 2: AT right NOW i.
Speaker 5: Would i would be remiss probably to try to try
Speaker 5: to interpret all. OF that spense i can only tell
Speaker 5: you the narrow part of THE answer that i could
Speaker 5: give YOU is That i think diego does a really
Speaker 5: really good job of focusing on what's exactly in front
Speaker 5: of him and allowing the rest to kind of. Play
Speaker 5: itself OUT and so i think what's exactly In front
Speaker 5: of diego is, a game tonight but he's very focused
Speaker 5: on and will give his maximum effort A, game on
Speaker 5: saturday which he will, do the same and then this
Speaker 5: opportunity has with, The national TEAM and so i would
Speaker 5: say his head is very focused on on what's in
Speaker 5: front of him and where it, needs to be which
Speaker 5: is just focus on his performance and let. The rest
Speaker 5: go the only other longer TERM perspective that i would
Speaker 5: guess that would be he wants to be Included In that,
Speaker 5: world cup roster which is only, a year away and
Speaker 5: so he needs to probably, navigate how best how best
Speaker 5: to keep the attention of the coaching staff from that and,
Speaker 5: so you know would YOU would WOULD i If, I
Speaker 5: was diego i would be weighing that up pretty severely
Speaker 5: about making sure That that that i'm playing on, a
Speaker 5: weekly basis because this coaching staff has made no bones
Speaker 5: about it that you the players that that will be
Speaker 5: considered and selected for the national team need to be
Speaker 5: playing for their. Team every week do you have an opinion.
Speaker 1: On whether or not it is better or worse TO
Speaker 1: be an mls player trying To Make this? World cup
Speaker 1: roster can you be properly prepared to play at the
Speaker 1: highest level in the WORLD playing in mls or like
Speaker 1: a lot of these other players that ARE with the,
Speaker 1: us national team do you think it's preferable preferable to
Speaker 1: be overseas in.
Speaker 2: A bigger league i think.
Speaker 5: Every player has. A different pathway but and let's just.
Speaker 5: Start with this let's START with how i just answered.
Speaker 5: THE last question i think it's very critically important that they,
Speaker 5: play every week meaning like a Player goes to europe
Speaker 5: to a huge club does never play well in my
Speaker 5: eyes and, In MY opinion and i think it's shown
Speaker 5: and borne out by what our national team coach is
Speaker 5: saying right now that that's. Not good enough we need you.
Speaker 5: To BE playing and i think in order to have
Speaker 5: the best chance to succeed, as a player you can't
Speaker 5: just be sitting on the bench somewhere and come into
Speaker 5: an international tournament and think that you're going to be.
Speaker 5: At your best. That Doesn't exist so I'M not sure i,
Speaker 5: answer your QUESTION but. Maybe i. Did for me, maybe
Speaker 5: the Level, Whether, It's, England germany belgium ITALY or the
Speaker 5: mls is less critical than just the fact that you're.
Speaker 2: Playing every, week all right let's.
Speaker 1: Move Over here bill simmons has this theory He Calls the.
Speaker 1: Patrick ewing theory it is a pro basketball theory based
Speaker 1: on the Nineteen Ninety Nine. New York knicks when, ewing was,
Speaker 1: hurt they somehow some way came together and played better
Speaker 1: than anybody thought the group could without, their best player
Speaker 1: and THEY Made. The nba finals what are you hoping
Speaker 1: to see and specific names. If You could as diego
Speaker 1: departs for at least a month month and a half,
Speaker 1: if not more if the team.
Speaker 2: Goes on to perform Well In.
Speaker 1: The gold cup who on this roster are you looking, At,
Speaker 1: To say, okay diego's gone. It's your time how do
Speaker 1: you tread water without by far?
Speaker 5: Your best player, FIRST of all i think the maximum
Speaker 5: people gone? Is? One, Month gotcha yeah so there's no
Speaker 5: there's no month and a, half. Categorization there thankfully so
Speaker 5: who do we who do we expect or want? To
Speaker 5: step up is the guys that are that have yet
Speaker 5: to really. Get big opportunities we will hope for the Continued.
Speaker 5: Development of gozo we will help Hope that really gotta
Speaker 5: reaches a level where he feels comfortable and starts. A
Speaker 5: square goal we Will Hope that tyler wolfe's contributions are.
Speaker 5: More and better We Will hope locklin brook. Will have
Speaker 5: Opportunity We, have johnny russell who has yet to, really
Speaker 5: break in who has shown a history of really good
Speaker 5: play and mls in the attacking half. Of the field
Speaker 5: we will have another Young player Named, aidan hester khani
Speaker 5: who has done extremely Well, for the monarchs should, get
Speaker 5: more opportunity and there's no reason why he can't take
Speaker 5: take advantage of it the Same way that. Gozo has
Speaker 5: done so the absolutely there are players that will need,
Speaker 5: to step up and the efforts of the players that
Speaker 5: are the core of this team will need to step.
Speaker 2: Up as, Well, Last question jay i'll set you.
Speaker 1: Loose on, this you know if you take THE pulse
Speaker 1: of rsl, fans right now and if you read some of,
Speaker 1: the media coverage both, locally and nationally there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people pointing fingers as far as the inability
Speaker 1: to bring in the reinforcements that you needed to bring
Speaker 1: in after letting Go of Chi, cho And crooks And
Speaker 1: andres and anderson and you, know, the list okay and
Speaker 1: last year was record breaking goal scoring and the points
Speaker 1: accumulated in.
Speaker 2: A single season what is, fair to, say.
Speaker 1: Once again going back to be trying, to be fair
Speaker 1: as far as what is the inability to find the
Speaker 1: reinforcements to keep up the level that you? Had last
Speaker 1: year what's fair to say about the club's inability up
Speaker 1: to this point to find the proper replacements for the
Speaker 1: players that.
Speaker 2: You let go.
Speaker 5: It's fair to say that we need to take, an
Speaker 5: internal view a review of some of these. THINGS and
Speaker 5: processes i think it's fair to say that.
Speaker 6: That we.
Speaker 5: HAVEN'T we haven't i don't think we have operated at
Speaker 5: the level that we have. In prior times, when we
Speaker 5: start when you start to add up The, Signings Of,
Speaker 5: Ojeeda Velascio Gomez, chi cho, uh these players you know
Speaker 5: something was different about the process because we haven't knocked
Speaker 5: it out of the park in the. Last TWELVE months
Speaker 5: and i think it's it's really quite SIMPLE the way i,
Speaker 5: look at it and perhaps this, is over simplification but
Speaker 5: the beginning half of last year we had. Two difference
Speaker 5: Makers we had chicho And We. Had, andres gomez now
Speaker 5: of course we had a Third There, in diego luna
Speaker 5: who was. Chipping in, right this season we don't have those.
Speaker 5: Two difference makers We, just have DIEGO and so i
Speaker 5: think that we still have the core of a very very.
Speaker 5: Very good team we just need those. Two difference makers and,
Speaker 5: PERHAPS you know i know that we missed on one
Speaker 5: that we thought we had an opportunity to get in
Speaker 5: the winter. Chance for window we, just missed it couldn't.
Speaker 5: Get IT done but i think we also need to
Speaker 5: be singing about that secondary. Player As, Well All right
Speaker 5: by Guy.
Speaker 2: We'll enjoy, austin behave yourself travel safe and. Good, luck
Speaker 2: tonight okay thank, you very.
Speaker 5: Much Appreciate it Jason.
Speaker 2: CHRIST club director i think that's.
Speaker 1: HIS Current title Rsl, legend Rare al Saw Lake and
Speaker 1: Action sight against austin. On the road austin is not,
Speaker 1: good this year BUT Neither is rsl austin five six
Speaker 1: and four. Ten, goals scored. Wow that's bad that's the Worst.
Speaker 1: In the west look at that seventeen goals. Allowed minus
Speaker 1: seven they are three two and THREE at home rsl
Speaker 1: at this junctures two five and one, Away from home austin,
Speaker 1: ON nineteen points. Rsl on fourteen in case you're, Just,
Speaker 1: tuning in jason with, little breaking news. Diego Excuse me
Speaker 1: diogo gonsalez has been left home or the match tonight
Speaker 1: in The match on saturday due. To disciplinary reasons so
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Speaker 1: ALL right christopher i need. Your IMMEDIATE reaction uh rsl has.
Speaker 1: One designated player His. Name is diogo uh is my
Speaker 1: dog about.
Speaker 7: To hump you he's currently, Chasing, his tail okay but
Speaker 7: he's eyeing.
Speaker 2: My right leg just.
Speaker 1: Let him know just tell him to sit if, you
Speaker 1: want to if you Want to witness ck trying to
Speaker 1: avoid being humped.
Speaker 5: By my dog.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube duke is a little bit, of a
Speaker 1: humper so we're trying to work with.
Speaker 2: Him on, That So so.
Speaker 1: Diogo gonsolve is the only designated player. On RSL's roster
Speaker 1: has been left home for this two game road trip due.
Speaker 1: To disciplinary reasons that's.
Speaker 2: All we know we just found. Out last segment what?
Speaker 2: Are your thoughts.
Speaker 7: It makes Me Think that and I'm not accusing rsel
Speaker 7: of fabricating any sort, of injury report but the heel
Speaker 7: injury the Day. Before last saturday correct the timing is kind,
Speaker 7: of in retrospect maybe a. Little, too striking listen you're
Speaker 7: not going to GET. More from, rsl i'm Like good
Speaker 7: for jason, for telling you and good that, it's out
Speaker 7: there because now, there's you know it's a club mandated
Speaker 7: statement from a. Club mandated employee but this to me
Speaker 7: is a potential, pathway way down.
Speaker 2: No longer. BEING oursl's numbers i would. Agree with that.
Speaker 7: Sometimes signings, don't work out and sometimes high profile signings,
Speaker 7: don't Work out and diogo isn't exactly the type of
Speaker 7: high profile signing that's worth potential headaches that apparently is
Speaker 7: being given. AT the moment i think he has one,
Speaker 7: goal this year don't remember how many he, had last year.
Speaker 2: One or, two so like.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you have to call a, spade a spade and
Speaker 7: with the upcomer upcoming, sever transfer windos sometimes you might
Speaker 7: be better for you, to shake, hands give bones dap
Speaker 7: each other up and.
Speaker 2: SAY good luck i.
Speaker 7: Could be wrong maybe this is, a you know a
Speaker 7: step in A direction where diogo and the coaching staff
Speaker 7: and the front office have stuff. To settle through but
Speaker 7: if you were asking me to read the tea Leaves
Speaker 7: out in sandycross From. THE old mayan i would say
Speaker 7: it seems like we are trending in. That potential direction
Speaker 7: did they?
Speaker 3: Close the mine oh a. Long time ago food was.
Speaker 2: Never very good food. Was never good but the guys
Speaker 2: dove off. Off the rocks the.
Speaker 1: Divers were impressive that burritos Just WERE ass SO i
Speaker 1: guess i shouldn't be surprised that. They closed, It All
Speaker 1: Right so diego luna is about to LEAVE for the
Speaker 1: us men's national team to Play In. The gold cup
Speaker 1: he will, be playing tonight he'll Be playing On Saturday.
Speaker 1: In los angeles. Then he's gone pablo on the, SHOW
Speaker 1: last week i know you heard it because you listen.
Speaker 1: All of it he dropped a bit of a bomb
Speaker 1: and he said he has been informed by ownership that
Speaker 1: they're no longer interested in the develop young. Players sell
Speaker 1: them he's been told that if we develop a young
Speaker 1: player that's good, for the group they want the player.
Speaker 1: To stay here DOES that mean rsl will never sell? Another,
Speaker 1: player again no. It does not if Some Team in
Speaker 1: La liga called kurt tomorrow and said Forty, mil for,
Speaker 1: diego YOU know like, i understand that it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're never going.
Speaker 2: To sell players but what do you Make.
Speaker 1: Of what pablo in the front office have expressed that
Speaker 1: maybe this new ownership group is not interested in the
Speaker 1: mindset that previous ownership.
Speaker 7: Groups, HAVE had well i think we need to challenge
Speaker 7: the ethos that this franchise is at the level of
Speaker 7: some other. Franchises and. Mls they're Not they sold andriscomes
Speaker 7: last year And They. Sold fidel barajas, other than that
Speaker 7: there haven't been bank breaking sales really ever that our
Speaker 7: sales front office had a lot to do in the last,
Speaker 7: twenty four months both bringing in players, and selling players
Speaker 7: but before that there wasn't that much going on from,
Speaker 7: a you know development and sell. Point of view they've
Speaker 7: developed players that have come to, the first, team You
Speaker 7: Know Justin, Glad Aaron, herrera body, hidalgo mainly defenders but
Speaker 7: this is not. LIKE they, are i mean there are
Speaker 7: other clubs in this league that have signed players or
Speaker 7: developed them from an academy perspective and sold them for a.
Speaker 7: Lot Of, Money Columbus, Crew Philadelphia, union la galaxy so on.
Speaker 7: And So forth so i'm not Necessarily Surprised because diego
Speaker 7: luna is a type of player that you currently can't,
Speaker 7: afford to lose because If You, lose diego luna you lose.
Speaker 7: The fan, base and yes if there is a forty
Speaker 7: million dollar, tag that comes. YES you sell i think fans.
Speaker 7: Would understand that but it's Not Going to diego luna
Speaker 7: isn't going to be sold For. MORE than andreskillmas i don't.
Speaker 7: Think so interesting his player. Profile is different andris is,
Speaker 7: a true, burner pure winger like one of the fastest dudes.
Speaker 7: In the league when, he was here like Was a
Speaker 7: fringe colombia. National Team player now diego has a chance
Speaker 7: to Play At the world CUP for the US when
Speaker 7: the us is pretty stacked from an attacking.
Speaker 2: Point of view but he plays.
Speaker 7: A different position his style of play is a, little
Speaker 7: more unique body types a. Little more unique he's not
Speaker 7: exactly a guy that now he, has foot skills but
Speaker 7: he's not the type of guy that's going to be
Speaker 7: able to run away from a. Lot of People but
Speaker 7: if diego ends this year, with twenty goals maybe we're having.
Speaker 7: A different conversation i just, Don't SEE it and i
Speaker 7: think it makes Sense from the millers' Perspective that if
Speaker 7: diego continues to play at This, level and go like on.
Speaker 7: An upward trajectory you make him a designated player because
Speaker 7: he's proven that he, can do it and you need somebody,
Speaker 7: to build around and they just don't.
Speaker 2: Have anybody else feels like he's already on the level
Speaker 2: OF what a, dp, SHOULD be, right i mean? Isn't,
Speaker 2: that fair yeah he's. AT that level.
Speaker 7: I would imagine that from a locker room perspective's he's,
Speaker 7: not the captain but he's, a you know a guy that.
Speaker 7: People rally around he's an easy guy. To rally around
Speaker 7: people like, playing with him people like. Watching Him play
Speaker 7: mauricio pochettino's giving him a chance where the previous, staff
Speaker 7: did not and for that is always going to be
Speaker 7: one of the more idiotic type of moves that will
Speaker 7: never understand why he Wasn't. Even in, paris but yeah
Speaker 7: he's he's been playing like a designated player and he's
Speaker 7: been the only guy that's been doing that since they
Speaker 7: jettisoned The likes Of.
Speaker 1: Chichio and andres so where do You like if diego
Speaker 1: develops fully and meets and? Meets the ceiling, because your
Speaker 1: point are?
Speaker 2: We DOING comps? Doing? TJ comps no i actually.
Speaker 1: Want to know what sort of level you think he,
Speaker 1: can play at because he's never going to. Be a
Speaker 1: burner he, Just never never he's never going to. Be
Speaker 1: A burner the javier comps feel right to me because,
Speaker 1: they're Really similar and javier was a guy that was
Speaker 1: able to make a difference with his skill but was.
Speaker 1: Never a burner Could take a javier probably better with Free.
Speaker 1: Kicks than diego xavier hit some. Incredible free Kicks so
Speaker 1: if diego, has the desire, and he does he actually
Speaker 1: has set it.
Speaker 2: On this show his goal is To be. A european player?
Speaker 1: Where what league if he maximizes who you think, he
Speaker 1: can be what league do you think he could?
Speaker 7: He COULD play and i think he could easily transition
Speaker 7: to one of the Top, clubs in mexico which is,
Speaker 7: saying a lot, because you Know top tier mexican club teams.
Speaker 7: Are very good if, YOU wanted to i could see
Speaker 7: him Going down To. Argentina, or brazil now granted those
Speaker 7: have really, good club teams but not at The. Level
Speaker 7: of europe europe's tough because mainly every single league is LIKE, prioritizes, the,
Speaker 7: nfl bigger, faster stronger model like you want dudes who can,
Speaker 7: run really fast who can, jump really high who can run,
Speaker 7: away from you and have a crazy amount of talent.
Speaker 7: On the ball diego's, a little undersized, AND you know
Speaker 7: i know in soccer we're not talking about guys that
Speaker 7: need to be six, two sixty three especially. In That
Speaker 7: Position like liono messi is the greatest player of all
Speaker 7: time and, he's, five eight RIGHT which is I think.
Speaker 7: What diego is but he'd have to go into. The
Speaker 7: right system could see him easily starring in a League,
Speaker 7: LIKE the netherlands i think going To, Top, Flight, england
Speaker 7: spain italy these are, all pretty. Tough, TOUGH asks france
Speaker 7: i think are all. Pretty TOUGH asks but I think
Speaker 7: for diego it's gonna, come, down to like does he
Speaker 7: if he wants To, go to europe does he want to,
Speaker 7: be you know a potential first team player or a
Speaker 7: rotational player on A, team like psv or you know
Speaker 7: a team that's one of the best teams in Let's,
Speaker 7: say the netherlands or you know more Obscure leagues like
Speaker 7: belgium where you can get a Sniff Of, the champions
Speaker 7: league or does it make sense to make a lot
Speaker 7: MORE money in, mls Play often as jason was saying,
Speaker 7: the previous hit like a lot of these guys get
Speaker 7: tantalized with the prospect Of going to europe. For obvious
Speaker 7: reasons it's where you want to go if you. Have
Speaker 7: a chance but it is so, CUTTHROAT and, listen, i
Speaker 7: mean like look at look at the stats around andrascoms
Speaker 7: like he is a eighty to eighty fifth minutes sub
Speaker 7: on the middle of the Table, team in france whereas
Speaker 7: here he was one of the best players. In the
Speaker 7: league so the step up is. Pretty Pretty hefty but
Speaker 7: diego could, potentially face, that, You KNOW crossroads BUT i
Speaker 7: think rsl will make it hard for him to.
Speaker 2: Want to leave one, MORE thing here.
Speaker 1: I don't do, radio LIKE this and i have an
Speaker 1: understanding of how organizations work and how roster construction works.
Speaker 2: In PRO sports so i feel like it's a simp
Speaker 2: who We, blame, IN spence well i feel like it's.
Speaker 1: A simp thing to do to talk about someone has
Speaker 1: to be blamed because it's more. Complicated than that this
Speaker 1: is not a linear. Finger pointing situation it's more. Complicated
Speaker 1: than that the ownership transition is, a real thing and
Speaker 1: WITH the way mls is set up with. A single
Speaker 1: entity it's also misguided to add up THE dollars that
Speaker 1: rsl received in exchange for players they jettison and then
Speaker 1: draw a straight line to say invest that amount. Into
Speaker 1: more players it's also very fair to say there has
Speaker 1: been a failure on some level to at least bring
Speaker 1: in talent and economic investment to continue the momentum you
Speaker 1: build last year for a team that scored more goals
Speaker 1: in ANY team in rsl history and had more points
Speaker 1: than ANY team, In, rsl history obviously the playoff failure is.
Speaker 1: What it is so instead of Saying Is? It dave
Speaker 1: Blitzer Is, it kurt schmidt.
Speaker 7: It's everyone's fault what's fair to say if you win,
Speaker 7: as a team you lose. As a team starting from
Speaker 7: the players, to the staff to the front office, to
Speaker 7: the ownership everything. Is tied together it is a organic
Speaker 7: mass that. Moves, intertwined together listen they simply have missed
Speaker 7: on a, lot of players and they've missed on a
Speaker 7: lot of players while working with, a tight budget and
Speaker 7: that's always going. To be hard you want. TO miss
Speaker 7: big rsl. Hasn't missed big, they've made small Miss small with,
Speaker 7: DIOGO miss small, I think, YOU i mean i don't
Speaker 7: want to say, it's a miss but A Guy Like
Speaker 7: don mark. Zuke is not androscomas. Like these are these
Speaker 7: were moves that were broadcast, as potential replacements, not band
Speaker 7: aids which at the time they were and. They still
Speaker 7: are they're. Still, band aids eventually you're gonna have to
Speaker 7: rip the. Band AID off and i don't know how
Speaker 7: RSL's roster it's going to be, constructed going forward Specifically
Speaker 7: with the, millers in charge but it would behoove them,
Speaker 7: to spend money and it would behove them to spend
Speaker 7: more than a three million dollar transfer on a number
Speaker 7: ten because three million dollar number ten's don't. Really exist
Speaker 7: anymore like you spend three million dollars on a guy
Speaker 7: who is a rotational player in the middle of the
Speaker 7: Field with Like Brian. O'HADEN amica annelly i know, that
Speaker 7: sounds crazy but you can't really ball on a budget
Speaker 7: anymore that you can't you can't HELP and and i
Speaker 7: know fans will always want to support, and show out
Speaker 7: but sooner or later there's going to be a straw
Speaker 7: that breaks. The camels back and like WE'VE talked about.
Speaker 7: Rsl Is foundering THE royals are i think the WORST.
Speaker 7: Team in nwsl they have, some decent players but just pay,
Speaker 7: for good players bring, in good players and everything else.
Speaker 7: Will handle itself i've, been saying this like ninety percent
Speaker 7: of what fans want to see is, just good players either.
Speaker 2: In person or. On the, two that's it, one hundred
Speaker 2: percent and it is the only way. To do this
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 1: To write checks there has to be economic investment into the,
Speaker 1: talent under roster which leads us to. The final thing
Speaker 1: then we'll catch a break and we'll do some college
Speaker 1: football coming. Up next summer transfer window Will. OPEN in july,
Speaker 1: i got it and there are thirteen matches starting with
Speaker 1: the first week of. The window opening if they, act
Speaker 1: that week that gives. Them thirteen matches if they wait
Speaker 1: until the end, of THE window and i think it.
Speaker 2: Gives them, eight so look. Here's my thing. Let's hear
Speaker 2: it the primary window, came and went and.
Speaker 1: You blew it you, just blew it and you tried
Speaker 1: to save it with a Bench Player from sporting casey
Speaker 1: and a dude that played Against.
Speaker 2: Like dun, seth.
Speaker 1: You know you tried to save it and, Our Guy,
Speaker 1: big willie, goles my guy, No looking great johnny's played once.
Speaker 1: For fifteen minutes jason just basically said like he's not close,
Speaker 1: to soccer shape.
Speaker 2: Which is understandable he wasn't with a club.
Speaker 1: For seven months so because you blew it during the,
Speaker 1: primary transfer window you should have targets ready that as
Speaker 1: soon as you can when, that window opens.
Speaker 2: Get it done don't wait for the, window to close
Speaker 2: and do it.
Speaker 1: The day Before as of jason's, INTERVIEW last segment I,
Speaker 1: Now have Pablo kurt and jason on the record saying.
Speaker 2: The same thing, their belief is or what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Out loud publicly is there two dynamic attacking players away
Speaker 1: from being among the BEST.
Speaker 2: TEAMS in mls i have no idea if. That's the
Speaker 2: case In, addition, to, diego.
Speaker 1: Yes okay correct so if, that's the case two, dynamic
Speaker 1: attacking players summer transfer window and don't make it two
Speaker 1: million Dollar guys like go, make a splash get two
Speaker 1: seven eight million. Dollar attacking players is that enough to salvage?
Speaker 2: Something, this year.
Speaker 7: NO it's not i think, the season's lost especially Considering
Speaker 7: you're losing diego for. Potentially two, months you know let's
Speaker 7: let's hope he stays healthy and he balls with the
Speaker 7: national team and continues to impress. That COACHING staff, but
Speaker 7: i mean in what world has THIS iteration of rsl
Speaker 7: convinced convinced anybody, that they, can you know tread water
Speaker 7: on Their Own. WITHOUT diego, luna i mean. It's just
Speaker 7: there you watch them play and they have like two.
Speaker 7: Basic attacking maneuvers they will overload the right side or they,
Speaker 7: will get, it get it get it to the Left Foot,
Speaker 7: of alex catronis who will send it.
Speaker 2: Across To nobody and alex has potential. To, serve balls yes.
Speaker 7: Yeah it does but, for whatever reason there, is you
Speaker 7: know nobody, crashing the box no. Late runners there they
Speaker 7: lack for any. Sort OF idea but i THINK they're
Speaker 7: just i think they. KNOW they're LIMITED i think i
Speaker 7: think this is a club that understands its limitations and
Speaker 7: they're learning them. In Real time but i'm. WITH you
Speaker 7: wholeheartedly i think If if the millers really want to
Speaker 7: show the fan base that, they, MEAN business like i
Speaker 7: think you need to be willing to spend, not this
Speaker 7: window because this window is kind of tough because you're
Speaker 7: not going to potentially get, your exact targets but YOU still.
Speaker 7: CAN i, think i think, in my opinion in the next,
Speaker 7: two transfer windows they need to be willing to spend
Speaker 7: anywhere from twelve to eighteen million.
Speaker 1: DOLLARS on, Players i agree and just real quick to
Speaker 1: your point about whether or not they can do. IT
Speaker 1: this window i don't pretend to know my elbow for
Speaker 1: my rear end about primary, transfer summer, window who's.
Speaker 2: Available who's not but if you go, off of, past
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Just player signings last year with a, primary transfer window they,
Speaker 1: didn't do much and it was the summer transfer window
Speaker 1: where They. Bring in dom They, sold andre To, they
Speaker 1: sold andres so They, Bring in Diogo. Dom and, Lachland
Speaker 1: so look i'm not saying high five for bringing in
Speaker 1: players that. Aren't very good but they did make more
Speaker 1: signings in the summer last year than they did in the.
Speaker 2: Primary last year.
Speaker 7: They, incorrect they did and it seems like last year
Speaker 7: they had their ducks in a row in terms of
Speaker 7: understanding that a, potentially big offer one that they couldn't
Speaker 7: turn down Was, coming for andres, which it did and
Speaker 7: then they went out.
Speaker 2: And Signed, Players but diogo lachlan and.
Speaker 7: Dom probably cost a total of like four point five
Speaker 7: million dollars, between three, players five million which is not
Speaker 7: going to.
Speaker 1: Get it done when did They? Bring In alex was
Speaker 1: alex a primary transfer window or was he a summer. Tra,
Speaker 1: ANSWER window no i think he was before the start.
Speaker 1: Of last season before the start, of, last SEASON okay
Speaker 1: because i mean that was. A good Sign and if alex,
Speaker 1: has been yeah but. You're not wrong we need to,
Speaker 1: write some, checks all right before we. Catch a break
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Speaker 1: manhattan not too long Ago For The Athletic College. Football
Speaker 1: annual meeting any grand takeaways you'd like to SHARE with, our,
Speaker 1: i mean look the landscape at college football right. NOW is,
Speaker 1: WILD i mean cbs is REPORTING that the sec IS
Speaker 1: leaving the ncaa in. Twenty twenty nine you can't, Just
Speaker 1: do that so there are a lot of things that have,
Speaker 1: To take place conversations ABOUT the new cfp format where
Speaker 1: IT'S clearly the Sec and the big ten calling, all
Speaker 1: the shots and you can complain about it.
Speaker 2: All you want that's kind of the landscape.
Speaker 1: Of the thing so what were some of the college
Speaker 1: football stories topics fantied about by some of the heaviest
Speaker 1: hitters in college football media.
Speaker 7: Exactly that it's beyond guard be prepared for rampant. Change
Speaker 7: once again, and ironically enough just within the last Six
Speaker 7: days since, i've BEEN home the sec meetings have Taken
Speaker 7: Place in greg sankie and folks are unhappy with the
Speaker 7: state of, college athletics apparently and they can throw their
Speaker 7: weight around because they want to and. Because, they can
Speaker 7: also the seeding is OFFICIALLY changed that i think that
Speaker 7: happened like TWO days after, i GOT home which i
Speaker 7: think is ultimately the right decision to do away with,
Speaker 7: those you know. Bloated HIGHER seeds but I think what
Speaker 7: i would say would be that you just have to
Speaker 7: be prepared for a tremendous amount of change and be
Speaker 7: prepared to ride the coattails of the. Powers that be
Speaker 7: and those powers that be are the two heavy hitters,
Speaker 7: that YOU mentioned the Sec And.
Speaker 2: The big, ten and listen things changed.
Speaker 7: ALL the, time i mean once upon a time people
Speaker 7: were MAD that the nba had a best of five
Speaker 7: series in, the FIRST round and i know it's hard
Speaker 7: to compare that to the amount of teams in the,
Speaker 7: college football playoffs, but. Things Change Man major league baseball
Speaker 7: USED to have I think one wildcard team and.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 7: It things changed everything is not going to be as,
Speaker 7: it ALWAYS was and i think that's. A good, thing
Speaker 7: i mean thank god we're no longer dealing with that
Speaker 7: computer system KNOWN. As THE bcs like i think a
Speaker 7: lot of people, are just operating either, publicly or privately
Speaker 7: in fear that they're.
Speaker 2: Going to be left behind when.
Speaker 7: The DUST settles but, I don't personally i don't think
Speaker 7: it's going to get to. That level now it can
Speaker 7: now if CBS's report is CORRECT that the sec is
Speaker 7: going to go rogue and call its own shots, IN
Speaker 7: four years i guess we'll have to tackle that beast
Speaker 7: when they when they. Cross THAT bridge but i just
Speaker 7: think it makes sense for everybody to remain in lockstep
Speaker 7: because that's where all.
Speaker 2: The Money Is, so.
Speaker 1: Ross dellinger who does a really Good, job for Yahoo
Speaker 1: And also matt brown front Of The, SHOW extra points
Speaker 1: i kind of read what those two write and followed
Speaker 1: them as. A north star when it comes to some
Speaker 1: of the, Legislation in place tennessee passed a law without,
Speaker 1: really telling everybody like any school in our state does
Speaker 1: not have to Adhere to the house vncaa settlement guidelines,
Speaker 1: like you're exempt AND then The p four conferences drafted a, contract,
Speaker 1: that said no actually you're not allowed to follow your
Speaker 1: state law if you want to be part of. Our
Speaker 1: Launch Table The trump white house came up With A
Speaker 1: college football commission that they were going. To Solve Everything
Speaker 1: the white, house was like you're. Not doing that so now,
Speaker 1: that's on pause kind of, Like the tariffs like here. Are, the,
Speaker 1: tariffs wait no the tariffs.
Speaker 2: Are, not that no. They are that now we're going to.
Speaker 7: Roll This back nick saban was supposed to be the,
Speaker 7: face of it and right even, HE was like i
Speaker 7: don't know what, you're talking.
Speaker 1: About right exactly so there was a conversation going On
Speaker 1: That the white house was going. To get involved now
Speaker 1: that's not happening because that's kind of the deal. Walking
Speaker 1: everything back but when it COMES to The p four
Speaker 1: conferences and their desire to make sure that all of
Speaker 1: their member institutions do Follow WHATEVER the house, vnca settlement
Speaker 1: says versus the state passing laws saying that you do
Speaker 1: not have, to do that how do we traverse out? Like, who's,
Speaker 1: right like Ultimately, if you're vanderbilt If you're The, university
Speaker 1: of tennessee and you have legislation in place from your
Speaker 1: state leaders saying you don't have to follow. Any of
Speaker 1: that but Then there's the peak four conferences drafting the,
Speaker 1: contract to say if you want to be, part of
Speaker 1: us you have to sign.
Speaker 8: This and you do have.
Speaker 2: To follow it all of this feels like we're just
Speaker 2: in for more legislation and we're in for, more legal
Speaker 2: battles and the lawyers are the ones that ultimately are
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 7: Be, The winners correct you're going to be dealing with
Speaker 7: things that are pseudo passed tied, up in, court you
Speaker 7: know file motions and junctions and all of these, almost
Speaker 7: went there all of these court legal mumbo jumbo jargons
Speaker 7: that everyone has had to either relearn or learn for the.
Speaker 7: First time again there, WILL be, loopholes i mean. Don't,
Speaker 7: forget that like just As Recently, as march madness The
Speaker 7: State of west virginia was threatening to was threatening TO
Speaker 7: Sue THE nc Double A because west virginia was left
Speaker 7: OUT Of THE nc. Double, A tournament like i think
Speaker 7: a lot of. IT is grandstanding i think a lot
Speaker 7: of it is is going to be filled with ways
Speaker 7: around these motions and these bylaws, AND these laws i
Speaker 7: think ultimately it will boil down to games. WON'T be
Speaker 7: disrupted i don't think roster construction will be altered all
Speaker 7: that significantly until. That day, comes you Know maybe Maybe
Speaker 7: tennessee and vandy do get a. LEG up significantly i
Speaker 7: don't necessarily see that, being THE case because I think
Speaker 7: it's i think at the end, of the day you're
Speaker 7: likely to be more emboldened to side with your governing
Speaker 7: conference body as opposed to some state legislators that you.
Speaker 2: Don't really know but it. Could be wrong, so.
Speaker 7: It is we've approached it's silly season, without a doubt,
Speaker 7: and everybody is, in my opinion is.
Speaker 1: Kind, of bloviating Well and Also chris where i've, kind of,
Speaker 1: LANDED and look i don't know this, To be true
Speaker 1: and maybe we, Need congressional involvement maybe we need the
Speaker 1: highest office of the land to try to. Get INVOLVED
Speaker 1: here and i guess that was the idea. BEFORE everybody
Speaker 1: Else I, guess Cody campbell the, texas tech booster was
Speaker 1: involved In, addition to saban, as You referenced when campbell
Speaker 1: was announced as somebody who was going to kind of co.
Speaker 1: Chair the thing a lot of people, pump, the, brakes
Speaker 1: like wait we don't know that we want this dude
Speaker 1: involved because conflict Of Interest with texas tech And Then
Speaker 1: the white House That. Surrounds donald trump, they basically said
Speaker 1: we cannot get involved with this and that's why. They
Speaker 1: paused it so maybe because it is so a convoluted
Speaker 1: and complex we do need the highest office of the
Speaker 1: land to get involved to just have some sort. Of
Speaker 1: final Solution but where i've kind of LANDED is that
Speaker 1: i don't see a solution. ON the horizon i don't
Speaker 1: see the dust, settling anytime soon like maybe in four.
Speaker 1: Or five years but it feels like we have entered
Speaker 1: and are still in and will remain in this space
Speaker 1: of ambiguity, with the sport and you just kind of
Speaker 1: have to deal with it day by day and, year
Speaker 1: by year and the.
Speaker 2: Chaos, will continue.
Speaker 7: Yeah you basically took the words out of, the mouth
Speaker 7: man like this is until there is a hard and,
Speaker 7: fast rule book until, there is ways until there are
Speaker 7: ways to punish people, for you know mistakes or, Missteps
Speaker 7: or misgivings like people are just going to be able
Speaker 7: to operate the way they want to because there is.
Speaker 7: NO governing body i don't know if it's necessarily something
Speaker 7: that needs to be congressional or, even you know involved
Speaker 7: in involving the executive, branch of government like you just
Speaker 7: need to get people to come together and. Agree on
Speaker 7: something but everybody's best interests are going, to be served
Speaker 7: and those are generally involved. Their own right and it
Speaker 7: sounds really like, depressing to say but if you're speaking
Speaker 7: from like a, pure business perspective it doesn't make sense
Speaker 7: to punt on your best interests in it for the sake. Of,
Speaker 7: other people WELL and the sec and the BIG especially
Speaker 7: the sec can just basically flex.
Speaker 1: Its chest right and the other thing that maybe people
Speaker 1: have either forgotten or they never knew is the ability
Speaker 1: to enforce rules was STRIPPED FROM. The nc doublea they
Speaker 1: were thrown out of, court like hey you're a, serial
Speaker 1: antitrust violator and also you're no longer able to even
Speaker 1: enforce the rules that you. Have in place so when
Speaker 1: you hear an ANNOUNCEMENT like the SEC LEAVING, the nc
Speaker 1: doublea and look it's, twenty twenty five that's four years,
Speaker 1: down the line none of, That IS surprising like i
Speaker 1: feel like that's where we've been. Going All along but
Speaker 1: as we continue to traverse into, this new space the
Speaker 1: chasm that EXISTS between the Sec And the big ten
Speaker 1: And even the big TWELVE and the aec continues to
Speaker 1: WIDEN because the Sec And the big ten they, have
Speaker 1: the cards they have the ace, in the hole and
Speaker 1: we can complain about It as a big twelve market
Speaker 1: about what's fair or.
Speaker 2: What's not fair but this has turned into a.
Speaker 1: Game OF leverage and i think it's clear THAT certainly
Speaker 1: the sec probably, first and Foremost But the big ten,
Speaker 1: alongside of them they are, holding The Cards and brett
Speaker 1: ormar can negotiate, all he wants but if you want
Speaker 1: to be part of, wherever they're going you're probably just
Speaker 1: gonna have to follow.
Speaker 2: Whatever they say?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 2: That fair yeah And you mentioned.
Speaker 7: Brett your market it's going to be interesting to see
Speaker 7: what he Says During the big twelve, meetings this week
Speaker 7: because these conferences never lack, for these. Official UNOFFICIAL meetings the,
Speaker 7: Sec Had theirs big. Ten had theirs Now it's the.
Speaker 7: Big twelve's Turn he'll be i'm sure he'll be asked
Speaker 7: ad nauseum about all.
Speaker 2: Of this stuff.
Speaker 7: But we live in, a capitalistic society AND whoever, gets i,
Speaker 7: mean you know, the rule man the man with the
Speaker 7: gold makes the rules number one rule.
Speaker 2: Of the drive so.
Speaker 7: The sec the big ten get the biggest amount of
Speaker 7: dollars because they get, the most eyeballs and the media
Speaker 7: contracts are the fattest for them because most. People watch
Speaker 7: them and it is it is an interesting kind of
Speaker 7: dichotomy if you think about like professional sports compared. To college,
Speaker 7: sports professional sports for, the most part are always driven
Speaker 7: by really high. Profile urban markets college is like basically.
Speaker 7: The complete opposite like how is it that a place like,
Speaker 7: as you Know, remotest as, tuscaloosa You know or starkville
Speaker 7: can play a role, in you know these multi billion dollar.
Speaker 7: Media rights deals it's because people, will watch them and people,
Speaker 7: will you know at the end of the day pay
Speaker 7: more attention to them because they, have more. History more
Speaker 7: success and that is the reality. Of the situation and you,
Speaker 7: Mentioned the Chasm like the big twelve just doesn't have any, Established.
Speaker 7: You know goliath they have a bunch of maybe maybe
Speaker 7: it's a little low hanging, fruit to say A, bunch
Speaker 7: of david's but like they don't have anybody that's going
Speaker 7: to be Like They, have deon sanders but, Other, than
Speaker 7: that like is is anybody busting down the Door To
Speaker 7: watch Arizona State? And kenny dillingham anybody busting down the
Speaker 7: Door To watch Kyle? WHITTINGHAM and utah i mean by
Speaker 7: use a little, unique in, that and, like you know
Speaker 7: they have the HISTORIC contract with espn and you know
Speaker 7: the very, Big you know, mormon population worldwide but it's
Speaker 7: it's it's, who you're marketing and these other conferences just,
Speaker 7: Have such more they have so much more at their
Speaker 7: disposal compared.
Speaker 1: To. Anyone ELSE did the pac TWELVE and the acc
Speaker 1: once upon a time announced like AN alliance and I remember.
Speaker 2: That big ten was involved. In, that too yeah and
Speaker 2: it lasted, like two, weeks so.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right and the press release like we are committed,
Speaker 1: moving and no. No, you're not yeah it's. STILL so
Speaker 1: wild I Was watching pacers. Knicks last night They Referenced
Speaker 1: at benedict MATHEREN was The pac twelve Player, of THE
Speaker 1: year and i, just started thinking like when He, Was,
Speaker 1: AT arizona okay i, just started thinking in ten, or
Speaker 1: fifteen years.
Speaker 2: When you BRING up, the pac twelve the youngs are going,
Speaker 2: to be like what the HELL is? The, pac TWELVE well.
Speaker 7: The pac twelve Will Be. Wazoo oregon state you know
Speaker 7: some of these new guys like but.
Speaker 2: Like what it Was, the real yeah like A Home
Speaker 2: for west coast football and it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't even Exist if Your, brett or mark are you
Speaker 1: considering ENGAGING with the acc about potentially trying to put
Speaker 1: something together there to put a contingency in place in
Speaker 1: the EVENT that the Sec and the big ten say
Speaker 1: we are taking our ball and we are going home
Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to. Come, with us uh because
Speaker 1: that appears to be.
Speaker 7: On, THE table chris i think you would need two
Speaker 7: member institutions who are very prickly at their own conference
Speaker 7: in The moment In Clemson in florida state to be
Speaker 7: willing to be front facing and forward, and, being like
Speaker 7: yes we're, all for this because those are two instance titians,
Speaker 7: who have recently either publicly or privately threatened that they
Speaker 7: may want to no longer be PART.
Speaker 2: Of the acc so.
Speaker 7: The heaviest hitters have, The MOST sway and i think
Speaker 7: you can make easily make an argument That between the
Speaker 7: big TWELVE, And the Acc Clemson in florida State and
Speaker 7: even miami would. Probably be third And like The big
Speaker 7: the big twelve just doesn't, Really HAVE anybody so i
Speaker 7: think it, would make sense but it would be it
Speaker 7: would be fascinating to talk to these guys, and just
Speaker 7: like why don't you guys all just, like sit, down
Speaker 7: you know, in a room like just, sort it out
Speaker 7: come to a come sort of come to some sort.
Speaker 7: Of common ground but, egos are. Real you know the
Speaker 7: amount of money on the table. Is very real it
Speaker 7: just seems like And and maybe I'm a maybe i'm
Speaker 7: an optimist beneath this endless.
Speaker 2: Pile Of news christopher camaraddie optimist just. Seems like it
Speaker 2: it seems, like IT'S? DOABLE am? I I mean? AM
Speaker 2: i am i being. A, LITTLE.
Speaker 1: Naive well i MEAN here's where i land On that
Speaker 1: dynamic negotiations are about one, thing always power.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Dang, It, leverage okay okay so. Write, This down kids take. Out,
Speaker 1: The pen okay negotiations are.
Speaker 2: About one. Thing it's leverage you think.
Speaker 3: Kids have pens take. Out the iPad take.
Speaker 1: Out the iPad type this in snapchat it. Or TikTok it.
Speaker 1: There you go negotiations. Are about leverage. They just are
Speaker 1: and if it's, your own life and if it's, your
Speaker 1: own job and if you want to go to your
Speaker 1: boss and negotiate a, new compensation package you better have
Speaker 1: tangible data about the value you, provide your company or
Speaker 1: you better have a job offer that, You, Can say
Speaker 1: okay i'm getting paid twenty five percent, more over here
Speaker 1: if you want, to keep me you have. To match
Speaker 1: that so negotiations, are about leverage and the leverage RESIDES
Speaker 1: with the Sec And.
Speaker 2: The big ten.
Speaker 1: It just does it comes to their inability to land
Speaker 1: in a space where an agreement. Could be FOUND it's
Speaker 1: the Acc and the big twelve complaining about the concessions
Speaker 1: they're not GETTING from the Sec And. The big ten
Speaker 1: BUT it's the Sec And the big ten saying we
Speaker 1: don't need to give you these concessions because we.
Speaker 2: Have the leverage so where's?
Speaker 1: The, middle ground ultimately, and right now the one example
Speaker 1: we do have that's tangible is THE expanded SIXTEEN t
Speaker 1: and cfp for next year twenty twenty six to, the,
Speaker 1: next cycle which as we, know right now the proposal
Speaker 1: is four auto BIDS for the Sec And, the big
Speaker 1: ten two auto Bids For the big TWELVE, in the
Speaker 1: acc one auto Bid for the. Group of six now
Speaker 1: shout out newpac twelve and then three. At large bids
Speaker 1: the Reports are the big TWELVE and the acc aren't
Speaker 1: happy with that because of the auto BIDS that the
Speaker 1: Sec and the big. Ten are receiving but If you're
Speaker 1: the big TWELVE, IN the acc i think you have
Speaker 1: to understand the leverage lies with them and you might
Speaker 1: just have to. Agree to that say you get you
Speaker 1: get half, the auto bids. We'll take two we just
Speaker 1: want to sit at your sit at.
Speaker 3: YOUR lunch table i think that's VERY accurate and i.
Speaker 7: THINK that's fair i Think until the big twelve finds
Speaker 7: a way to establish itself with the, powers that be
Speaker 7: they don't. Have any, leverage that's great it's good. Learning
Speaker 7: lesson leverage. THERE we go i have a question how
Speaker 7: much does THE rise of sec basketball add to their already,
Speaker 7: deep war chests because like it, USED to be i
Speaker 7: mean it used TO be the ACC used to I
Speaker 7: mean the big Twelve, historically big, east you know. Rest
Speaker 7: in peace but, NOW it's like I think the sec
Speaker 7: had the most amount of tournament teams and they have this.
Speaker 7: Conference IN college, so i wonder, as you know a big, college,
Speaker 7: troops guy indeed how much.
Speaker 2: Does that add to their already. STRENGTHENED war chest i
Speaker 2: don't and, YOU know this i don't think it adds,
Speaker 2: much to it only because even though college basketball is
Speaker 2: Viable Due, to march madness it's still a drop in
Speaker 2: the bucket compared. TO college, football i mean it.
Speaker 1: Can't hurt it but it's The reason Why brett yor
Speaker 1: mark was Interested in adding Yukon To. The big twelve yukon,
Speaker 1: football Is pathetic but yukon basketball is one of the
Speaker 1: top two or three blue bloods. In the country they
Speaker 1: are an, ad a beneficial tangible asset to your conference
Speaker 1: because of, their basketball team not. Their football program BUT there,
Speaker 1: Are I mean duke carolina football is better than it,
Speaker 1: used to be but there are only a handful of
Speaker 1: basketball front facing programs that really makes sense that would.
Speaker 1: Help your conference you want it to be attached to a.
Speaker 1: Excellent football Team It's, why brian santiago when he was
Speaker 1: INTRODUCED as the, byu athletic director was very front facing that,
Speaker 1: football drives us even though their economic investment is in.
Speaker 1: Their basketball, program, RIGHT so look byu basketball is going
Speaker 1: to be a top five. TEAM THIS year aj debonca
Speaker 1: right away probably will be the best player that it's
Speaker 1: ever played. In our state Do Respect to Van horne
Speaker 1: and andre, And EVERYBODY else like. Aj is different but
Speaker 1: if they Don't invest with kilani and his group the
Speaker 1: way They've invested with kevin.
Speaker 2: And, his group yeah it's awesome that you have a,
Speaker 2: Great basketball program but do you Want?
Speaker 1: To, be yukon no you Want. To be bama you Want.
Speaker 1: To be florida you get like just won. The, national
Speaker 1: championship yeah and it's interesting too because you have kind of.
Speaker 1: A clean slate you have an opportunity to take hold
Speaker 1: of this geographical footprint where currently It's kind of oregon
Speaker 1: and everybody else Like Sc Paying lincoln riley king's ransom clearly.
Speaker 1: Isn't worked out washington has to figure out you know
Speaker 1: who they are, after You know Losing. Kalin de, boor
Speaker 1: but like the possibilities, are out there you can establish
Speaker 1: yourself as. A geographical giant now it's difficult because you
Speaker 1: have to be able to win those recruiting, battles out
Speaker 1: west and you have to stave off all of these
Speaker 1: GUYS in The Sec and big ten who are coming
Speaker 1: for the players. In your state but it is a
Speaker 1: great point that like the likes of these Programs in
Speaker 1: the big twelve have the opportunity to.
Speaker 7: Seize the Moment, carp adm indeed fortune FAVORS the. BALL
Speaker 7: jp does i just don't know if anybody is good
Speaker 7: enough or if the pockets are deep enough.
Speaker 2: To do it since you brought up best c the
Speaker 2: Reports Are sc notre dame. Is going away it's not.
Speaker 1: Done very BAD So look byu utah will be preserved
Speaker 1: because there. Are, conference butts otherwise we were already in
Speaker 1: a space where it went away incrementally and could have
Speaker 1: gone away entirely if they didn't land in. The same,
Speaker 1: conference college, football to me one of the things that
Speaker 1: does separate IT from the. Nfl is rivalries we HAVE some,
Speaker 1: good nfl rivalries but there's something different about.
Speaker 2: College football rivalries is it time to? Change?
Speaker 1: That paradigm though is it time to get rid of
Speaker 1: any romantic idea of what college football is based off
Speaker 1: of how rapidly, It's all changed Because If, you're, lincoln
Speaker 1: riley like why would you schedule that game if it's
Speaker 1: going to get in the way of you winning your
Speaker 1: conference and maybe making THE expanded to i, get, The,
Speaker 1: Counterpoint Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah but this goes back to the moving target of change,
Speaker 7: we talked ABOUT like how i guess the auto if
Speaker 7: this theoretical sixteen, team tournament exists then your auto bids
Speaker 7: are your auto bids and it and maybe your strength
Speaker 7: of schedule isn't getting measured the way it historically has and.
Speaker 7: All These THINGS but, i'm, i mean like there's a
Speaker 7: reason why locally that that game is, Awesome every year,
Speaker 7: like last, year on paper that game had no reason
Speaker 7: being as good as it. Was it was and we've
Speaker 7: talked about this over and over for the. Last twenty
Speaker 7: years the one game that my wife still remembers and
Speaker 7: still talks about is the Kick six With, Auburn and
Speaker 7: alabama like it's The only time i've seen her like
Speaker 7: actually freak out during a sporting event watching watching that
Speaker 7: guy return that, Attempted field goal like if That's if That's,
Speaker 7: auburn and Vandy if It's Auburn, And iowa state and does, It,
Speaker 7: resonate now no. IT does not i MEAN there's and,
Speaker 7: i think honestly the rivalries are why will even bring.
Speaker 7: In the casuals they will bring in the likes OF
Speaker 7: you and i we will probably. If we're free we'll
Speaker 7: tune In For the iron bowl. To, Catch quarter sure
Speaker 7: i'm not really that intrigued by the IDEA of s
Speaker 7: c and WHOEVER you Know, SC in TEXAS. A and,
Speaker 7: m i mean that's that's too good. Of, AN example no.
Speaker 1: I understand the promise. And the point one, more thing
Speaker 1: here then we'll. Set you loose duke is looking, AT
Speaker 1: me like i, gotta GO bathroom and i am one
Speaker 1: dog dump in the studio away from never being allowed
Speaker 1: to bring. Him in again so We're gonna get duke
Speaker 1: outside and go. To the bathroom you you, Always, hear
Speaker 1: THIS moniker and i, use IT too but i think
Speaker 1: it's different when you look at what is transpired in
Speaker 1: college football and what could, transpire in football you always hear. The,
Speaker 1: same thing well regardless of, All the chaos Saturdays in
Speaker 1: the Fall still feel Saturdays.
Speaker 5: In the.
Speaker 1: Fall they don't If You're an, oregon state. Fan they
Speaker 1: don't If You're a, washington state. Fan they don't if
Speaker 1: you're one of these teams that have. Been left behind
Speaker 1: and if we continue to move into a space, where
Speaker 1: you know, it's simply, capitalism economic investment and anyone who's,
Speaker 1: in that group don't they don't need to make concessions,
Speaker 1: for anybody else and we'll JUST use the Sec In.
Speaker 1: The big ten and if they decide that they're going
Speaker 1: to go do their, thing and period, end of. Story
Speaker 1: that's it there will be More schools where saturdays in
Speaker 1: the fall no Longer feel like saturdays. In the fall
Speaker 1: you can make an Argument that for utah fans that
Speaker 1: for a decade Plus welcomed IN oregon AND usc and
Speaker 1: Ucla And the big, pac twelve brands and, suddenly that's gone,
Speaker 1: and due Respect It's now iowa State and k state
Speaker 1: And just and baylor and brand like, good solid programs
Speaker 1: but not the brands. That were accustomed you can make
Speaker 1: an argument it's saturdaydays in the fall around here Don't
Speaker 1: feel like saturday's in the fall like they did a couple.
Speaker 1: Of years ago and They Don't, for washington state They Don't.
Speaker 1: For OREGON state where i think this sport could find
Speaker 1: itself in Peril is if saturday's in the fall no
Speaker 1: Longer feel like saturday's in the fall for the majority
Speaker 1: of college football fan bases and they just.
Speaker 7: Feel like IT for the Sec In, The big ten
Speaker 7: saturdays in the fall need to force parents to make
Speaker 7: their kids miss their soccer, games for games they need
Speaker 7: to make them miss scheduled events because of the importance of,
Speaker 7: what it means either in person, at the tailgate in
Speaker 7: the stadium or even. On the tube after the news
Speaker 7: BROKE that the pac, TWELVE was dissolving i was actually
Speaker 7: sent if, you remember this It went, AND thanksgiving weekend
Speaker 7: i went To Both the civil War And the apple
Speaker 7: cup in, twenty four hours and talking to those fans
Speaker 7: that have, been left behind it is a stark reminder
Speaker 7: that people just because they might have gone to, a
Speaker 7: different school they might, have different colors their diploma might
Speaker 7: might say something different. That shouldn't, negate you know their ability,
Speaker 7: to you know have the money that they invest in
Speaker 7: their alma maters or the schools, that they support have.
Speaker 7: It potentially payoff, and, you're right like we are rapidly
Speaker 7: trending towards a world which we leave people, in SCHOOLS
Speaker 7: behind and i don't think we can afford.
Speaker 1: To do that great, to see, him My man. GET duke,
Speaker 1: outside i will and then you're in charge of the flyer.
Speaker 1: FOR fox birthday i want that you got. TWENTY four hours,
Speaker 1: i got, you all right wrapping it Up for a
Speaker 1: wednesday edition. Of the program halfway through, your work week
Speaker 1: one day close?
Speaker 2: To the Weekend Is? This phil collins?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 8: Who?
Speaker 5: This Is?
Speaker 2: This prince? Prince same thing? YOU know what i have an.
Speaker 2: Admission to make.
Speaker 8: This, is a.
Speaker 2: Rare rare one?
Speaker 8: Are you.
Speaker 2: READY i'm Ready i think I'm. WRONG about prince i like,
Speaker 2: MY music taste i like.
Speaker 1: My music takes i've never Been a, big prince guy
Speaker 1: and a lot OF people who i respect the love
Speaker 1: music have taken me the Task and believe prince.
Speaker 4: IS a genius i just none of his stuff ever really.
Speaker 4: Resonated with me i'm kind. OF with you I don't,
Speaker 4: dislike prince obviously just played him. ON the radio i
Speaker 4: think he's got. SOME decent songs i think it's more.
Speaker 4: ABOUT the performance i think it's more about the character,
Speaker 4: than it is like the Musical, genius with prince not
Speaker 4: that he's not like there's not good songs or if
Speaker 4: that is your like preferred, type of, music it's, not.
Speaker 4: YOU know terrible i can Listen to, a prince song
Speaker 4: but IT'S not like i don't think the quality of
Speaker 4: music that would get you to The stardom that prince has,
Speaker 4: without the character, without the performer, without The aura.
Speaker 1: The prince has The only REAL prince knowledge i Have
Speaker 1: Are the. Great chappelle skits where?
Speaker 2: Does It shoot the?
Speaker 4: Jay shoot it, and would he like legitimately asking would
Speaker 4: he have that stardom, without the skits without like the
Speaker 4: character assistance of His? Friends in hollywood like That's part of.
Speaker 4: Prince as well that's not. Discounting from, him.
Speaker 1: And see it sounded Like, that Song Studio the phil
Speaker 1: collins song That Was, in American Psycho the. Christian, bale
Speaker 1: movie yeah that's what it sounded like, a little bit.
Speaker 2: A little. Bit all right what do you? THINK about.
Speaker 1: TONIGHT i, badly i, MEAN of course I want the
Speaker 1: knicks to get back into it because it's just been
Speaker 1: So fun watching nick playoff basketball in A way that
Speaker 1: i haven't like. TWENTY five years i Would really Like
Speaker 1: Minnesota and new york to. Extend these series, do, You?
Speaker 1: Think man okay see when they're building. Is really lit
Speaker 1: it reminds Me Of, the delta center reminds Me of like.
Speaker 1: Jazz playoff basketball they're so. Good at home Do You
Speaker 1: Give minnesota mike tyson? Uppercut chance tonight.
Speaker 2: But that was kind Of the.
Speaker 4: The prince thing, by The. WAY in minneapolish i Like
Speaker 4: it because i'm hoping for. THE same thing i just
Speaker 4: want to. SEE seven games i want to. SEE competitive
Speaker 4: series i kind Of Feel like oklahoma city. Closes Out Tonight.
Speaker 2: But i'm.
Speaker 4: I'M With you i i'm cheering. For the alternative i'd
Speaker 4: like to see, a competitive game. A COMPETITIVE series but
Speaker 4: i Just think the minnesota is kind of battling up.
Speaker 4: Hill right now, and you know if You Got the
Speaker 4: julius randall that you saw at certain parts of the season,
Speaker 4: and you, know early, postseason then yeah you probably. Have
Speaker 4: A chance but i think that is less likely. Than
Speaker 4: than not now that's the beautiful.
Speaker 5: Part.
Speaker 4: About basketball man minnesota has a roster that, if they're
Speaker 4: on if the, shots are.
Speaker 3: Falling they can beat anyone. Any given night so do they.
Speaker 5: Have?
Speaker 4: A CHANCE absolutely do I think s G a M
Speaker 4: vp and. OKAC advance tonight i kind of dos That's the. Way,
Speaker 4: I'm leaning yeah i'm.
Speaker 1: Probably with you and, BY the way I don't think
Speaker 1: i fully Realized How corny.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma city is it's like that, there they're, stars, their
Speaker 2: team corny corny.
Speaker 3: Group, of dudes, well they're young they're like.
Speaker 4: They're they're they're this generation of kids, who you know
Speaker 4: kind of lean into as you, were talking about like they.
Speaker 4: HAVE that commercial i think they're all like all on. TikTok,
Speaker 4: and whatnot uh there's a little. Bit of that there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of that, where, like postgame, uh the
Speaker 4: interview there's some stuff that feels. A little contrived there's
Speaker 4: stuff Like, That With, Donno Ben karl anthony, Towns Does
Speaker 4: it jason tatum really bad with some of that stuff
Speaker 4: where it seems like you're like thinking about what people
Speaker 4: are gonna tweet while, you're being interviewed, and, to me like,
Speaker 4: you know whatever do your?
Speaker 2: Thing fair? Enough fair enough?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 3: That, Wrong, NO no no I mean.
Speaker 2: LOOK i'm old. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm, with you Well Like the, stefan diggs stuff don't
Speaker 1: video everything you're doing and release it to the masses
Speaker 1: like it's only going to come back.
Speaker 2: To BITE you.
Speaker 1: AND i don't i don't love the whole like performance
Speaker 1: kind of. Everything, feels staged, yeah you know. EVERYTHING is
Speaker 1: performative i feel like all of. Politics. IS performative now
Speaker 1: i feel like all of life is about filming. EVERYTHING
Speaker 1: you're doing i don't need to watch you make. A turkey,
Speaker 1: SANDWICH and yes i have my free agency to turn.
Speaker 1: The video off but when it comes to what all
Speaker 1: of these, young, athletes DO like don't i don't Enjoy
Speaker 1: watching chet homegrin on TikTok doing the.
Speaker 2: POP and lock i.
Speaker 3: Think, it's, corny well yeah you do have the free agency.
Speaker 4: Turn it off but now it's like part of, ESPN's,
Speaker 4: social strategy right it's You Log onto sports center and,
Speaker 4: Whatever his name omar or whatever is sending out videos
Speaker 4: of like things that have nothing to, do with sports
Speaker 4: but it's an, athlete doing it so it does have
Speaker 4: something to, DO with.
Speaker 3: Sports i, guess and, YEAH for me.
Speaker 4: I genuinely couldn't. Couldn't care less that's an avenue of
Speaker 4: THE business that i have very intentionally. Steered away, from
Speaker 4: but yeah, like you mentioned there's a performative aspect to,
Speaker 4: it for, me You, know like donovan IT'S almost like
Speaker 4: i mentioned it last week when YOU'RE playing two k
Speaker 4: and your answer to an interview question is LIKE. Circle
Speaker 4: triangle x feels like that with a lot of, these
Speaker 4: YOUNG players and i think a lot of it is
Speaker 4: the environment that they grew up in, the social sphere
Speaker 4: that They, grew up yeah.
Speaker 1: YOU nailed, IT i MEAN i guess i have a
Speaker 1: hard time faulting young people who are raised with cell
Speaker 1: phones as their babysitters and, they're best friends like that's.
Speaker 4: JUST the deal i heard an interview with a teacher
Speaker 4: recently who and this is, not sports related but they
Speaker 4: told me that kids.
Speaker 3: Have changed in the.
Speaker 4: Last ten years, children, have changed right which this is
Speaker 4: kind of. Scary to me they said that, TEN years
Speaker 4: ago i was just like seeing kids. Living their lives
Speaker 4: now school is the kids pausing, their real life which
Speaker 4: is on a tablet.
Speaker 2: Or an iPhone ah huh interesting and.
Speaker 4: THAT is uh i DON'T know how i, feel about
Speaker 4: that because those are the people who are spending the time.
Speaker 5: With.
Speaker 1: The kids yeah no's that's. An interesting, point and look
Speaker 1: final thing and then we'll. Say good night i'm sure
Speaker 1: people are already rolling. Their eyes here when we started
Speaker 1: to monetize social media and influencers, became a thing.
Speaker 2: The brand the toothpaste was out, of the tube.
Speaker 1: And so now everybody wants to. Be AN influencer and
Speaker 1: i think influencers are the ills. OF our society i
Speaker 1: cannot stand this. Group of people but it's also a
Speaker 1: way that a lot of young people make their way.
Speaker 2: Through the world they pay their.
Speaker 1: Bills this way and once we Started to Monetize facebook And,
Speaker 1: instagram and twitter and we said, to young people you
Speaker 1: can actually get paid a lot of money if you
Speaker 1: are front facing and performative by filming everything you do
Speaker 1: and then sending it out. To the masses that's, when
Speaker 1: everything changed and we're. Not going back so it's just
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 5: That it is.
Speaker 4: We're not influent the word influence, is. Different now spence
Speaker 4: influence used to be like something, you garnered through LIKE
Speaker 4: power or.
Speaker 3: I don't know even.
Speaker 4: What it is now it's just whatever some brand is
Speaker 4: willing to pay you to put their product out there
Speaker 4: and pretend that.
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Speaker 1: Indeed indeed say you can get fifty bucks when you
Speaker 1: play your first. Five, dollars lineup no IT'S like whenever
Speaker 1: i hear they're, gonna ban TikTok how people are paying bills.
Speaker 1: On that platform now you'll get sued up. The WAZOO
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