WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.520 Wednesday afternoon, fifteen minutes fast in the hour of two o'clock. 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:09.039 It is another beautiful, warm, May slash summer like day outside, 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:10.800 and as it is every single day, it's gonna have 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.240 you along for the ride. Spence Jackets Beyond the Mike, 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.320 Porter Larsen, Beyond the Glass, booking the show, producing. 6 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:17.679 The show today, how do you like? 7 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:21.440 Eighty degrees in sunny here in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. 8 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:23.679 It's gonna be a warm week. It's gonna be a 9 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.519 scorching hot weekend. We're gonna get some rain and colder 10 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:29.839 temperatures coming up next week. As we are about to 11 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:33.479 turn our calendars to June. Wild at twenty twenty five 12 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.000 is already almost half way over. I'm getting old time 13 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.399 is going very very fast. It's also a mental construct. 14 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:41.640 I did not take an edible before the show. We're 15 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:43.560 not gonna go down that rabbit hole today. But hello, 16 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.719 how are you happy? Wednesday? Halfway through that work week, 17 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.079 one day closer to the weekend. We're gonna do some 18 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:52.320 NBA playoffs on the show today. Both the West and 19 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.960 the East appear to be over. Maybe not, we'll talk 20 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.759 about it. Oklahoma City is looking to punch their ticket 21 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.520 to the NBA Finals tonight at six point thirty on ESPN. 22 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:04.200 Unfortunately, ESPN still has. 23 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:06.920 NBA basketball on their platform, even though their coverage could 24 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.840 not be worse, and the I'm not going anywhere. 25 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:11.599 They're part of the new deal moving forward too. 26 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.959 But anyway, t Wolves, Thunder Paycom Center, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. 27 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.280 The Thunder are trying to advance to the NBA Finals 28 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.799 for the first time since twenty twelve, and we'll see 29 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.799 if Minnesota can at least make it interesting tonight. Oka 30 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:27.239 See is a healthy favor that is a tough place 31 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.000 to play even when they're not very good, and they're 32 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.680 historically special this year, so we'll see if oka See 33 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.760 can get it done tonight and advance to the NBA Finals. 34 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:39.920 The Indiana Pacers really dictated the tempo last night, and 35 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:41.840 that really is the story. We'll talk about it, but 36 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:46.120 the Knicks were never really able to figure things out 37 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.000 rotationally on defense. A lot of bad closeouts, a lot 38 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.400 of bad miscommunications, a lot of wide open shots for 39 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.519 the Pacers in a historically brilliant game from their point 40 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.879 guard Tyree Saliburton. And apparently we're supposed to debate whether 41 00:01:59.920 --> 00:02:00.959 or not he's a superstar. 42 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:01.560 I don't know. 43 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.200 I'm not sure we'll do that today. But the Pacers 44 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.280 lead it now in the East three games to one, 45 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.520 and they'll try to close it out at the Garden 46 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:11.639 tomorrow night at six o'clock on TNT. 47 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.439 It could be the final. 48 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:18.199 Iteration of Inside the NBA on TNT before they move 49 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.000 over to ESPN. And I think the Knicks will win 50 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.039 it on Thursday and then they'll go back to Indiana 51 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.759 where it feels like it's the Pacers and six. But 52 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:28.280 we'll get into it on the program today. It is 53 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.759 a game day for Raal saw Lake. 54 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:30.400 Believe it or not. 55 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.599 Our local soccer club is in action tonight at six 56 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:36.840 thirty Mountain time on MLS Season Pass Apple TV. They 57 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:41.639 are taking on Austin. I think it's Austin FC. I 58 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.639 don't know, it's the soccer team that plays in Austin. 59 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.400 We'll see if ourselves able to you. 60 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:48.120 Know what play? 61 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:50.599 Well, how about that? We'll just go with that today. 62 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:52.840 So a lot to do on the show. University of 63 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.840 Utah football program welcoming in a bevy of recruits coming 64 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.360 up for the twenty twenty sixth class. 65 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.560 Over the weekend, they'll be on campus. 66 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.280 We'll get to some Utah football recruiting news, the latest 67 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:09.639 on the college football landscape with the new CFP format, 68 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:13.639 conference realignments, the SEC and the Big Ten flexing their 69 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:17.599 muscles continuously, so get to the latest on that. There's 70 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.319 some nil stuff that Kirby Smart had some comments on today. 71 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:26.680 We'll talk about Stefan Diggs continues to prove why this 72 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:31.840 younger generation needs to stop filming and posting everything. At 73 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:33.919 some point it's going to get in trouble. But we 74 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:36.680 do have OTAs and Pro football as there is a 75 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.719 little bit of NFL to get to on the program today, 76 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.960 So good guest list for you guys. On a Wednesday afternoon, 77 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.520 we'll welcome in Tim mcmahn NBA Daily, as his style. 78 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.000 We're a number of weeks away, but not that long 79 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:49.360 away from the NBA Draft. 80 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:50.879 A lot of rumors surrounding. 81 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.599 The Utah Jazz, who at this point have five and 82 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:54.360 twenty one in the first and a couple of second 83 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.400 rounders as well. Could the Jazz get in the mix 84 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.800 to move up potentially maybe add a more exciting piece. 85 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.960 We'll do some Jazz offseason. We'll preview tonight's game and 86 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.199 talk Knicks Pacers as well Neil Smith. The NHL playoffs 87 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.199 also continue to roll along, and Utah Hockey Club made 88 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:17.120 some signings today. Nothing all that notable, but will excuse me. 89 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:17.839 The Utah Mammoth. 90 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:22.399 It's gonna take him innute Utah Mammoth with some transactions today. 91 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.759 We'll get into it and we'll ask Neil Smith about 92 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.319 his take on what the hockey club needs to do 93 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.560 this offseason. The Panthers are going to try to close 94 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.600 out the Hurricanes tonight. They have a three to one 95 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.040 lead in the East Finals. All four series in the 96 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:40.000 NHL and the NBA are three to one. Kind of 97 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.000 a bummer because Game seven's rule. Maybe somebody actually show 98 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:44.800 up and and show. 99 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:45.800 A little fight, but we'll left to see. 100 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.120 So Neil Smith stops by today three o'clock Jason Christ 101 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.759 RSL club Legend. We'll preview tonight's match and we'll talk 102 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.759 big picture of RSL stuff with Jay today and then 103 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.519 c K our guy, Christopher Camaradi joins us live in 104 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.759 studio for an entire hour or on this beautiful Wednesday afternoon, 105 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.000 it's warm enough that our guy might drive is gearless 106 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:10.759 bike downtown while listening to the Smith's Not His Walkman, 107 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.639 Come hang out with us live in studio. Tim McMann, 108 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.519 Neil Smith, Jason Christ, Chris Camaraddie, Spence checkets, all of you, 109 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.480 the great listeners that guy Porter Larson on a Wednesday. 110 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.399 At any point last night, did you think the next 111 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:23.800 we're gonna win that basketball game? 112 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:24.000 Man? 113 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:25.399 It didn't feel great. 114 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.240 It didn't feel great really all all night long, really 115 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.319 the second half more so than any But when you 116 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.639 give up that amount of point Spence, I've said it 117 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.720 all series long, there's a certain way the Knicks have 118 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.720 to beat Indiana. Now, you take a w whether it's 119 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.680 one fifty nine or seventy seven to seventy eight, but 120 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.079 when you turn it into like a track meet, you 121 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.839 turn it into what yesterday was kind of like a 122 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.240 helter skelter loose ball. 123 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:56.399 Bonanza. I don't even know what to call it. 124 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:56.680 It was. 125 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:01.480 It was garbage basketball much of the game, and Indiana 126 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:03.360 took advantage of that. They got more depth, They got 127 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.560 guys that run the floor well, they got guys that 128 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.800 don't just foul randomly because they're bored. Karl Anthony, Town's 129 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.920 phenomenal player in certain moments Spence and then he forgets 130 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.240 that he's playing professional basketball. 131 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:16.279 Blows my mind. 132 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.839 But anyway, No, I didn't really feel real good about 133 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:21.879 the Knicks at any point yesterday, because when you give 134 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.360 up like fifty points in the first quarter, you don't 135 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:26.519 win many basketball games. 136 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:28.920 Yeah, and they were hanging, but they were running up 137 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:30.560 and down with the wrong team to run up and 138 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.959 down with. It's like, inevitably this is going to come 139 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:34.839 back to bite you. Please stop playing at this pace. 140 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:35.439 It won't work. 141 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.560 Yeah, And actually they played I think like ten guys 142 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:43.680 in the first half, which was surprising to me. Maybe 143 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.439 conserving a little bit of energy for your guys later 144 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.240 on in the game. But then you're down by twenty again, 145 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:52.399 and I know that's seemingly where the Nicks have been 146 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:53.399 comfortable this postseason. 147 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.439 But you can only get away with that so many times. 148 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.959 All Right Live nine Events presents the twenty twenty five 149 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.120 Granary Live Concert Series. 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All right, 194 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:01.159 real quick, couple. 195 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:02.000 Thoughts on last night. 196 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.879 You know, ultimately this Nick team is really really good, 197 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.279 and maybe with the right matchup, this would look differently. 198 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.120 I don't think their championship caliber. 199 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:17.240 I never thought that they were, and honestly, I thought 200 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:19.000 that they were going to get smoked by Boston in 201 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:21.080 the second round. And there's a case to be made 202 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.240 that Jason Tatum stays upright, the Knicks aren't in the 203 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:25.440 Eastern Conference finals. 204 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.080 In a way, this was kind of ahead of schedule. 205 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.600 Okay, So they go all in on trading five first 206 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.360 round picks for Michel Bridges. Four of those were unprotected, 207 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.519 so they sacrificed their future draft capital, and they did 208 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:37.799 that just last off season. 209 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:39.720 They move off R. J. 210 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:42.279 Barrett and some other pieces to bring in o Giannooby, 211 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:43.360 who's been really good for them. 212 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:44.240 They sign him. 213 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.159 Jalen has evolved to be much better than they ever 214 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.200 thought he would be. They move off of Julius Randall 215 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.840 and Dante Dimonceenzo to bring in Karl Anthony Towns, which 216 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.240 was fine. I mean I like Dante, and that hurt 217 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.639 their depth a little bit. But really, when you understand 218 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.240 what the Knicks have been doing, it is with the 219 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.840 idea of what Boston is probably gonna have to do 220 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.080 this offseason. Like I don't think even the Knicks themselves 221 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.960 thought they would be in the Eastern Conference finals because 222 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.679 they put this team together to capitalize on potentially the 223 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.480 Eastern Conference. Once Boston has the second Apron tax bill 224 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.840 come due and they have to break this group down, 225 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.799 and that could happen the offseason, I think Boston's gonna 226 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.559 have to move off of somebody, whether it's Drue Holliday, 227 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.200 Derek White, Jalen Brown, Tatum of course out for an 228 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.919 entire year. So the Knicks kind of built incrementally and 229 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.039 slowly to try to capitalize next year when Boston has 230 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.559 broken this thing down. The problem is that Pacers are 231 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.360 crashing the party. And it's probably just simply time to 232 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.600 say the Pacers are a better deeper team than the 233 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.600 New York Knicks. And here's one of the issues that 234 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:51.679 is presenting himself. Rick Carlisle has played eleven or twelve 235 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:55.919 players all year long, fifteen or more minutes. Tom Thibodeau 236 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.840 has played basically six and a half players The one 237 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.480 player off the bench who he trusts has been Mitchell Robinson, 238 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.759 who is now starting. Miles McBride has had a good year. 239 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.159 I like Deuce, he's a good shot maker. Didn't do 240 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.240 much last night, but Delon right, Landry Shammitt precious that 241 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.919 you have been on ice and I applaud Tom for 242 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.200 trying to be a little bit more adaptable and going 243 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.480 deeper in his bench. But when you just have done 244 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:23.679 this over the past couple of games against a team 245 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:26.480 that has played eleven twelve guys fifteen plus minutes for 246 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.240 eighty two games and now three rounds of the postseason, 247 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.639 it's you're up against it, like you can't expect Delon 248 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:36.320 to be ready. And I think Delan has given Tom 249 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.120 some good defensive minutes. But the problem is, and you 250 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:41.120 guys remember watching Delon write as a ute, he was 251 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.600 a dynamic ball in hand offensive playmaker in addition to 252 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.679 a really good defensive guard. And when it comes to 253 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.360 Delon with ball in hand on offense, he's peeing down 254 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.240 his leg. He had a double dribble that looked like 255 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.919 he was playing junior jazz last night, Like his offensive 256 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:57.360 confidence is gone. 257 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:59.919 He did knock down a corner three. But he does 258 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:00.679 not look like. 259 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:05.200 Delon Wright, the offensive initiator, ball in hand, decision maker 260 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:06.720 that we had here in Salt Lake for the utes, 261 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:10.480 because he hasn't been playing. So I applaud Tom for 262 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.639 trying to pull this off. And Landry Shammitt has given 263 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.240 him really good minutes both defensively, and he's actually been 264 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:15.960 okay on offense. 265 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.200 He had three assists and only eleven minutes last night. 266 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.919 But the problem is you're asking guys who have been 267 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.360 on ice to now step up in the Eastern Conference 268 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.440 Finals and give you ten to fifteen minutes when you 269 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.559 haven't been playing them. And I'm gonna sound a little 270 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.240 bit like I'm contradicting myself because I think Tom has 271 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.519 to do this, But it's a day late and a 272 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:38.559 dollar short because they're not ready for the stage. And 273 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:41.840 it's not Delon's fault, it's not Landry's fault. They just 274 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.000 haven't been playing. And that's why all you're long you 275 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.440 hear this criticism like look, and this is I talked 276 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.639 about this the final game of the Celtics series. With 277 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.159 about six minutes left in the fourth quarter, it was 278 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.200 one hundred and ten to seventy six and Jalen Brunson 279 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:02.039 was fighting over screen set by zab your Tillman Boston's 280 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:07.399 like fourteenth dude, like Joe Miszula had given up, and 281 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.159 Tom had his starting five in the game when they 282 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.080 were up forty points with six minutes left in the fourth, Like, 283 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.559 that's a time to let Delan get his feet underneath him. 284 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.360 That's a time to let Landry Shammitt dust off some 285 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.559 rest or precious a chewa just get some run. And 286 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.000 so Tom Thibodeau is forgotten more about basketball than any 287 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.519 of us will ever know. And I'm not necessarily sitting 288 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.320 here calling him out for this, that or whatever, but 289 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.679 this has been a bit of a coaching mismatch. And 290 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.480 Rick Carlisle is a championship coach with a really good team. 291 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:39.799 And look, I know we're supposed to like do the 292 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:42.600 first take thing where we're debating who Tyres Saliburton is 293 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.960 in the ecosystem of NBA basketball. He's an All Star, 294 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.559 he played for Team USA, He's one of the handful 295 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.440 of the best league guards in pro basketball. Last night 296 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.159 didn't change that for me. Just because he had a 297 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.440 historical game doesn't mean I'm going to change the way 298 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.720 I talk about him one day after a great game. 299 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:03.399 But he was very aggressive right off the tip. And 300 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.039 when ty Reese is aggressive like that, this team is 301 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.840 a problem. Okay, So he goes thirty two points, fifteen 302 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:14.559 as says, twelve rebounds. Most impressively in the Eastern Conference 303 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.960 Finals against a desperate Nick team, he didn't turn the 304 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.440 ball over once as the primary lead guard for the Pacers, 305 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.080 which was just spectacular. Aaron Ne Smith ended up giving 306 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.799 Rick thirty three minutes of excellent defense on Jalen Brunson. 307 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.240 Jalen Brunson had three shots in the final eight minutes 308 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.559 of the fourth Jalen Brunson and Kat had four points 309 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.120 combined in the fourth quarter. 310 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:38.600 And how many. 311 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.200 Assists do you think Jalen Brunson has had to Karl 312 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.840 Anthony Towns during the Eastern Conference Finals If I had 313 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:46.759 to get if I asked you to guest off the 314 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.639 top of your head, how many assists all series long 315 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.039 do you think Jalen has the cat? 316 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:57.879 I'm pausing for dramatic effect. The answer is one. One. 317 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.519 We're about to go to Game five now, one assist 318 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:04.519 from Jalen the Cat. They don't play well together offensively. 319 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.720 If the Knicks are going to take the next step 320 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.240 they've got, they've got a cat problem. Even though at 321 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.320 times Kat looks like he's dominant, I just don't know 322 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.759 that Kat kind of feels like, you know, I don't 323 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.200 know this to be true, but in the next generation, 324 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.399 Kat kind of feels like the type of player we're 325 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.159 we're gonna be talking about in the way we talk 326 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.399 about Carl and John and Barkley and Peyton and Kemp 327 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.759 and Patrick ewing Right, great talented players, they never won 328 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.360 championships because they were just never the guys that could 329 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.039 get it done when the moment demanded it at its highest. 330 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.759 But credit the Pacers. They're deep, they're good, They're a problem. 331 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:41.879 And it does feel like we are high speed ahead 332 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.759 to an Indiana ok C NBA Finals and I cannot wait. 333 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.000 Her media members bitch and moan about having to travel 334 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:48.960 to those two cities. 335 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.000 Next on the drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your 336 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:54.960 NBA Daily Assists. 337 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:02.039 McMahon Van McMahan, that is beating old. 338 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:07.240 Land, Texas flood as tickets Mud He's main. 339 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:14.000 Fan ncmam Van McMahon, the man Man. 340 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.639 The Oklahoma City Thunder looked to punch their ticket to 341 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.600 their first NBA Finals since twenty twelve tonight, as they 342 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.679 host the Minnesota Timberwolves at six thirty Mountain time on ESPN. 343 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:33.159 Our next guest joins us on. 344 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.799 A weekly basis, and as I often wont to do 345 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.240 day to day, I'm walking the dog this morning, I'm 346 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.840 listening to the Hoo Collective with our guy. So Tim McMahon, 347 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:43.399 right out of the gates, I know the question to 348 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.720 ask you, is it now time to talk about Tyree 349 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.399 Halliburton as a legitimate superstar NBA player. 350 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.159 I mean, you have to. He's in the conference finals 351 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.000 for the second straight year. He's a game away from 352 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.799 going to the finals. And the man just had thirty two, 353 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.840 twelve and fifteen with no turnovers. Plus I mean, look, 354 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.599 I get small market blah blah blah. This dude is marketable. 355 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.599 This dude has sizzle. This dude talks crash and backs 356 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:15.480 it up in emphatic fashion. Yes, I was. Haliburton's absolutely 357 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.079 a superstar. And again, you know, as I said on 358 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.240 the podcast, like dude, he went through Johns, he went 359 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.079 through Dontan Mitche, He's going through Jennon Brunson. If you 360 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:28.319 keep knocking out superstars and probably belong in their company. 361 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.119 I lead say, would you rather have Halliburton or Donovan? 362 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.200 I mean, I think you have to say Haliburton simply 363 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.920 because you know, two straight years he's been to a 364 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.799 stage that Donovan has not been able to get to 365 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.920 you and you know, I think Donald's the heck a player. 366 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.359 They are different players, but Haliburton has proven that he 367 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:54.880 is the engine to an elite offense on a consistent basis, 368 00:17:54.960 --> 00:18:01.279 and you know it's proven playoff success. Uh, there's there's 369 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.039 not a lot of guys who can say, you know, 370 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.559 as Stars thirteen, they've been back to back conference finals. 371 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.839 We'll see. There's him I'm talking about right now. There's him, 372 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.119 and there's Aunt, you know, and Aunt's about to go 373 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.000 home and Alberton's about to come here to Oklahoma City. 374 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.480 Halliburton or Brunson. Who would you rather have? 375 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:28.039 Again? You got to I Bolter start telling you, and 376 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:31.079 what the results say. I love Jaymeen Brunson. He hasn't 377 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.119 been able to beat Albert. He's been outplayed in this series. 378 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.039 And you know what it is a little bit I 379 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.240 will ackowledge there's a little that's a little bit unfair 380 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:43.039 because he was hurt last year during that series. If 381 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.720 he doesn't get hurt, you know, does he does he 382 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.480 do the Knicks win that series? The Pacers not going 383 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:53.599 to the conferences, okay, but head to head, look, Brunon, 384 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:58.240 Brunson's getting his numbers, Alberton's getting wins, and they just 385 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:01.200 they don't have an answer for alburning honestly, Like I'm 386 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.640 not going to sit here and tell you that Albert 387 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.440 some kind of deacon to stop, but we know he's not. 388 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:11.839 But Carlile and Halliburn are pretty louselessly hunting once and 389 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:17.160 right now, and that is really benefiting the Indanifacers. 390 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:21.480 Halliburton are calling sectionon, I don't know. 391 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.160 Am I gonna have Collin sextion in Dallas? Is he 392 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.200 gonna beat in my backyard by the end of the summer. 393 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.279 That's a good question. That's a good question. 394 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.079 I mean, look, I've got to reach to get jazz 395 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.000 topics here, but I will non secuitur to try to 396 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.480 talk a little jazz as we're just a few weeks 397 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.440 away from the NBA Draft and Tim, you know the deal, 398 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.400 Like every time anybody writes a whole like hey off 399 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:43.640 season primer, what are we going to see? The Jazz 400 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:46.319 are heavily mentioned as a team to watch out for, 401 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:49.960 so I know where your attention and energy has been. 402 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.119 I read everything. You're right, and I listen to your pods. 403 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:53.440 But we are in Salt Lake City. 404 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:55.720 Do you have anything for this fan base about what 405 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:58.200 you're hearing as far as the plans for the Jazz 406 00:19:58.240 --> 00:19:59.000 this offseason? 407 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.440 In those obviously you know they're they're very rebuild. They're 408 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.799 going to be uh it's not aggressive shopping guys at least, well, 409 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.000 can you listen aggressively? I don't know if that's saying 410 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:13.519 I'm saying, but you know, like John Collins taken in 411 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:16.599 very long term plan. You know, Colin Sections may or 412 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.359 may not be, but will certainly. You know he's not 413 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:24.279 untouchable by any stretch of the imagination, and he's going 414 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:26.839 to come up with the you know, the ad talks 415 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:31.680 of Mattericks. I'm sure to Matters absolutely need a stop gap, 416 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.240 you know, primary initiator. You know it's not really a 417 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:36.039 point guard just but I won't say point guard, but 418 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:39.200 a stop gap lead guard who can transition into a 419 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:42.319 sixth man role once Kyrie comes back and the section 420 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.640 would absolutely make a lot of sense there. Now, what 421 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:50.319 exactly would the price be? You know, those are conversations 422 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:50.759 that they. 423 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:54.559 Can ask all right, Yeah, there really isn't anything else 424 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:56.160 to ask you about the jazz. So we'll move on 425 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:58.480 now before we get out West, Let's let's stick with 426 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:00.920 these for a minute, because you know, the fact of 427 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:02.920 the matter is when you look at most of the 428 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:05.799 splits and most of the numbers, it indicates this is 429 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:09.319 a very very close matchup. And honestly, if you want 430 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:11.799 to look at the glass at full as a Nick fan, 431 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:17.240 that game one catastrophe, you know, if Nie Smith doesn't 432 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.960 turn into Ray Allen circa nineteen ninety eight, it's probably 433 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.839 two two. I don't think it matters where these two 434 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:25.599 teams play tim whether it's New York, Indianapolis, or some 435 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:30.400 blacktop playground in the Midwest. It just it's irrelevant. Three 436 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.119 to one is not insturmountable, but it kind of feels 437 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:35.119 like it. I wouldn't be stunned if the Nick send 438 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.079 this thing back to Indiana, but it feels like the 439 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.039 Pacers and six. 440 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.759 That's what my gut says. What say you, Yeah, I would. 441 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.119 Say that it's not insurmountable, but it's certainly not very mountable, 442 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:49.160 you know, And hey, it really does like this at 443 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.480 this point. It really does come down to an insane 444 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.160 Pacers comeback and an awful mix collapse in game one. 445 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:58.480 If not for that, it's two two. We're looking at it. 446 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:01.759 You know, it's anybody's series. But they don't have a 447 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.599 solution for Halberdie. They don't have a solution for the 448 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:09.799 pace that the Pacers. We can say, hey, if not 449 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:11.880 for that come back, well, you know there's an old 450 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:13.759 saying they didn't really apply in Utah. But you know, 451 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:18.160 fi a fist would all be drawn. Yeah, maybe the 452 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.720 Knicks fans can comfort themselves with a few fists. But 453 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.839 simple fact of the matter is three one pacers, and 454 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.200 I have a hard time seeing how how the Knicks 455 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:31.599 are going to pull off three in a row with 456 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.640 two of those having to be on the Indian a turf. 457 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.920 I agree with that one Nick question. Then we'll get 458 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.880 back out to the west here. You know, there's a 459 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.519 lot to like about this team, and they're probably a 460 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.480 little bit ahead of schedule because Boston. 461 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.599 I thought Boston would smoke them in four or five. 462 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:54.000 And I think if if Tatum stays upright, Boston's probably 463 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.640 playing Indiana, and Boston's probably going to the finals. That's 464 00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.839 my opinion. So look, the Knicks probably a little bit 465 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:01.559 of had a schedule, but when you look at what 466 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:03.440 they need to do to take the next step, the 467 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.279 splits with Cat and Jalen aren't good. I think Jalen 468 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:09.720 has one assist to Kat in the conference finals. I 469 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.440 think your guy Timmy good time Bontemps dropped that. So 470 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.680 let's just say that the Pacers are able to get 471 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.599 this done in six or maybe they win at MSG tomorrow. 472 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.920 What sort of tweak or movement do you think we'll 473 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.119 see from the Knicks to try to take the next step, 474 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.400 because I don't think they can do it with this roster. 475 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.000 Well, and I would say the question there is not 476 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.440 so much what tweaked, but is there massive change? And 477 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.599 I think when you're talking about massive looks, we don't 478 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:39.759 know if the honest is going to ask out right, 479 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.799 but if he does, there's going to be a lot 480 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.640 of smoke about Grannis to the Knicks. That's certainly the 481 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.599 realm with possibility. I can tell you that people in 482 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:55.519 Minnesota believe that the Knicks made the cat trade. It's 483 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.119 kind of a one to two ship. They made him. 484 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.720 They made that trade, yes this year, but also to 485 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.759 have the option to trade him for a bigger fitch. 486 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:06.880 There's not a whole lot of bigger fish in the league, 487 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.319 but Jannis would be one of them. So you know 488 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.160 that that's again there's a lot of dominoes that have 489 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.000 to fall, or one major domocak they would have to falls. 490 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.759 That have to be a possibility, But that's out in 491 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:20.799 the air at least. 492 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:21.960 All right. 493 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.359 Moving out to the west before we get to tonight. 494 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:30.720 You know, I think Minnesota the other night beats probably 495 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:32.559 I don't know if they beat every team in the 496 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.680 NBA with the way they were able to play, certainly offensively. 497 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.799 I know ants taking a lot of criticism. Look, Julius 498 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.079 Randall deserves a ton of credit for playing really quality 499 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:46.000 basketball in the spring, something he has not done very much. 500 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:46.599 Throughout his career. 501 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.799 But the past couple of games he's been watching from 502 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.759 the bench in the fourth quarter. And I loved Win 503 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.480 Horst his hit on Van Pelt after the game. When 504 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.160 Dagnolt was asked, Hey, what did you learn about your 505 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.960 team tonight? Like nothing, just kind of who we are. 506 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.039 You know, it was like it encapsulated the entire thing. 507 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.799 This to me is about an Oklahoma City team that 508 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.119 is ready, and is deep and is historic on a 509 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.680 number of different levels as opposed to who Minnesota is not. 510 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.359 But what were your takeaway's courtside watching what I perceived 511 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.400 to be a really good game from Minnesota just not 512 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.160 be enough to knock off this young, upstart Thunder team. 513 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:25.240 Well, and I think the biggest thing that we learned 514 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.119 is that, yes, Jalen Williams is ready for this. He 515 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.519 is ready to be the number two guy on a 516 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.359 championship team. They needed for him to have the best 517 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.759 playoff performance of his career for them to win that 518 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.119 game with a great shot making performance by all the 519 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:44.319 Timberwles role players and Jalen Williams, you know, he he 520 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.400 answered the bell, So did Chet Holmes. And you know, 521 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:50.000 it sounds crazy because Shay had forty nine and ten. 522 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.759 But I didn't think Shape played great by his standards 523 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.240 in that game. It was their number two and three guys. 524 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.920 And then I look, and it's going to get criticism 525 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:04.000 since has been coaching his butt off to try to 526 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:05.720 get him to make the right play to try to 527 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:07.440 get him not to force things. He try to get 528 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.599 him not to play hero ball. They scored one hundred 529 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:12.640 and twenty six points. They scored forty one points in 530 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:17.400 the fourth quarter. Ants, you know, Ant's lack of scoring 531 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.720 in that game was not the reason that the Timberleves 532 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.519 lost the game. Now, you'd like to see him impact 533 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:23.839 the game in other ways. You'd like to see him 534 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.160 make wall of the defense fin pack. Okay, I'll listen 535 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.039 to that, but let's not act like, you know, Ants 536 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.480 score whatever he finished with, what was sixteen points. I 537 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.880 think let's not act like that's the reason that the 538 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.359 Wolves lost. We may lit up the league's best defense 539 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.039 in large part because guys are getting great looks. Because 540 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:41.839 it's done. We're selling out to stopping it. 541 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.680 Yeah, when Dagnall did a really smart thing, you know, 542 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.920 he sits Hardenstein, he butts Chat at the five and 543 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.599 then So what they're doing is throughout any action with Ant, 544 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:55.960 whether it's on ball when he has the ball in 545 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.920 his hands or off ball when he's trying to get 546 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:01.440 open Jalen Williams, he passes him off to loud Dort. 547 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.039 Lou Dort passes him off to SGA who's six' EIGHT, 548 00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.920 sga passes him off To Alex caruso Or Caseen wallace 549 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.319 like and then if he's able to get past the 550 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.559 first line of, defense which he can't do because they're 551 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.440 sending literally two people at him every time he puts 552 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.079 the ball in the, deck chats back there at seven 553 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.279 feet just protecting the. 554 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.680 Rim. Like, SO I. 555 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.000 I get the conversation about the greats find a way 556 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:26.920 to get it done no matter what the defensive scheme. 557 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.839 Is BUT i didn't have an issue With ant's decision. 558 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.079 Making he probably could have been a little bit more 559 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.759 engaged off the ball to try to get. Open but 560 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.240 when you are being handed off with four wings who 561 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:41.000 are six' five and six' eight and two hundred and 562 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.319 twenty two hundred and thirty pounds all designed, to stop 563 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.200 you what are you? Supposed to do just four shots 564 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:47.400 in double and triple? Teams. 565 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:52.000 Every possession like it wasn't really about. HIS individual PERFORMANCE 566 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.039 i Just i think okase is uniquely Designed to stop 567 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.559 ant or anybody else individually when that's what they. 568 00:27:58.559 --> 00:27:59.839 Decide TO do and i thought that's. 569 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.759 Why, they did yeah and every time if there's a 570 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.720 little crevice in the defense and he's driving and there's the. 571 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.400 Second defender coming and look when you drive it in 572 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.319 the teeth, of this defense that's how you get. A 573 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.720 lot turnovers, and you know turnovers will just BE death 574 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.440 against okac because they're so good at converting and they actually 575 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.119 weren't great at convert, into this game but typically the 576 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.960 team has had multiple games during his playoffs with thirty plus. 577 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.200 Points off turnovers they're scoring more points off turnovers in 578 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.680 the playoffs and any team has since we've been able 579 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.759 to Track that stat so like just FORCING things and, 580 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.559 i don't know we want ant to just jacked up 581 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.240 a Bunch of, like alden, face you know, long jump, 582 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.279 shots you know and, he was, aggressive real great. He 583 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.720 was aggressive he went seven, to twenty five, and you 584 00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.839 know and you lose. By twenty five give me. A 585 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.680 break again the whole point of offense is not for 586 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:50.559 you to score as many points as possible for your 587 00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.599 team scores many. Points as possible and a lot of Those, 588 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:59.720 Looks That nikhil Alexander Walker and Dante DiVincenzo and jadis 589 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.519 gans we're getting it was because it's, a chain, reaction 590 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.640 you know that's with the attention to. The ANT'S commanding 591 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.359 so i, just, you know look when you're when you're 592 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.400 a superstar and you're the face, of the team and 593 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.960 you know he's, in the playoffs especially when there's only one, Game, 594 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:15.519 that night yeah there's going to be stuff that comes. 595 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.079 Along with it but a lot of. This stuff's nonsense so. 596 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.799 Give me your Opinion On the, julius, randall EXPERIENCE because, 597 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.519 like i, said you know we should not just completely 598 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.799 summarily dismiss what he's, done this spring because he has 599 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.519 been better than he has. BEEN historically speaking, i Don't, 600 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.319 know man like for, a few years MY buddy so i, 601 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:35.839 grew up. 602 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.119 With they'd, ask me like what do you think about? 603 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.440 The next chances and my rebuttal, Was, always like okay 604 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.440 what do You Think if julius randall is your legit 605 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:44.680 number Two Next to jalen if you, think he's ready 606 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.160 Then maybe the. Knicks half something but he's never really 607 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.960 shown to, be that consistently and he's watched from the 608 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:51.920 bench over the past. 609 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.559 Two fourth quarters so what's fair to Say About the julius? Randall? 610 00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.039 Angle, here tim yeah and two of the past, three 611 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.119 fourth quarters because in between there he did have a, 612 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.319 really good game and the, really good games really good 613 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.079 Performances have been i'd. Been the norm and then look 614 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.519 all the same stuff we just said about the attention 615 00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:12.119 to also paying that kind Of Attention to julius ranger 616 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.759 and and, and you know he's been a non factor 617 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.240 in two in the, last three games you have both losses. 618 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.359 For the rules can he be the number two guys? 619 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.200 And championship team it's hard to say that about to 620 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:28.599 get knocked out in. The conference, finals You Know has 621 00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:34.000 julius randalls First season in minnesota been? A successful campaign i. 622 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.200 Would say, ABSOLUTE you know i do think that that 623 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.759 he's proven a. Lot of things now it will be 624 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.920 interesting you he's got. THE player option i assume they 625 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.240 looked out. Something long, TERM you know i don't think he's, 626 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:48.559 a max player but those negotiations. 627 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:53.039 WILL be interesting i have not spoken to you since 628 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.440 the announcement was made THAT s g a WAS Given. 629 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.240 The MVP award as i referenced a number, OF different 630 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:00.759 times I get the jokic. 631 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:02.640 SIDE of this i would. GET that vote i have no. 632 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.720 Problem with it but now that, it is official has 633 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:07.960 been for, a few days what are YOUR thoughts on sga. 634 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:09.640 Receiving, THAT award. 635 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.799 Yeah i WOULD say that i thought. It was, deserving 636 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.799 you know. He earned it they won. Sixty eight, games 637 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.680 you know that's the best team. IN the league i 638 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.400 mean he scored almost, thirty three games, leading the, league, 639 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.839 extremely efficient fast and he filled up. The box score 640 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.839 he played a significant role in the number one defensive team. In, 641 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.240 The league look i'm not going to say here and 642 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.799 Tell you that joker didn't have a case TO. One 643 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:40.359 another MVP you think i. Basically thirty, twelve to me 644 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.119 there's two, major time breakers one team record way on 645 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.559 THE side. Of, sga two look if it's the time 646 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:50.200 hadn't won It yet open the, Guys WON three so 647 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.160 i didn't think it was. A difficult vote there were 648 00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.240 one two on. Every single ballot if and SEVENTY one, 649 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.079 had SGA one if i, had a ballot it would have. 650 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.960 Been seventy two brings us To Tonight where oklahoma city 651 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.000 is a very healthy eight point five point favorites tip 652 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.200 Off six. Thirty mountain time is there Anything you think 653 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.960 minnesota can do as far, as tactical? Adjustment lineup, switch 654 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:14.920 you know is there anything they can do to? Make 655 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.160 this thing and that is a tough building. To play 656 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.960 in Do you give minnesota at least a puncher's chance 657 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.799 and do you think we'll see something different from them 658 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.480 to try to extend their season or do you think. 659 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.839 It, ends tonight well all those role players who were 660 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.960 hitting shots these last, couple of games they didn't hit 661 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.440 shots in the first. Two games, here you know there's 662 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.440 the old adage about role players shooting a lot better 663 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.359 at home in the playoffs and. On the road if that, 664 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.000 trend continues tonight And then the tims can, just you 665 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.599 know they don't need to Fly. Back to minnesota they 666 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.759 can go run ON the cancun i don't know that there's. 667 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.000 Major tactical adjustments it'll be interested To see what finch 668 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.599 does to Try to get amps bring it up a. 669 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.279 Little BIT more but I think the timlewolves hopes of exting. 670 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.160 In the series the rest, in the know the hands, 671 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:02.119 of the, air The shots Even, Shamzo Nas, Lead alexander 672 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:03.559 walker jay McMahon and those. 673 00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:09.559 Kind of, Guys All, Right, OKLAHOMA City, indianapolis nba finals 674 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.400 you're equipped for it because you're a man. 675 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:12.400 Of the people you're a. 676 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.279 Small market guy which media member will be complaining the 677 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:16.880 most about having to travel between. 678 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.200 These, TWO cities oh. 679 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.680 I don't want to call Out Names Like brian. WINDY 680 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:26.480 win hurts i will, now. Last first plass he'll. Be 681 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:30.880 all right his, wine's about sleep. Not not, cities fair, 682 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:31.519 enough all. 683 00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:33.720 Right my friend, appreciate the time have, a great week enjoy. 684 00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:35.839 The, game tonight, okay appreciate. 685 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.599 Well all right tim McMahon covers THE. Nba for espn 686 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.640 he wrote A Book About Luka doncicic luka Doncic in 687 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.640 The CURSE of greatness i Was released in march and 688 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.200 the Link to by the book is Up on his TWITTER. 689 00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.160 Page at espn underscore McMahon is where. 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The 708 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.519 nba finals looks like it's going to be a battle. 709 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:49.800 Of small markets and as, we've talked about this is 710 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.400 AN era of nba basketball where if You live in Milwaukee, 711 00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.840 you find giannis you can. Win a championship if You, 712 00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:58.719 live in denver You, find a jokich you. Win a 713 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.639 championship and apparently you can build Title teams In Indiana. 714 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:03.760 And oklahoma city. 715 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.880 This is a great time to be able to capitalize 716 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.519 on the parody era of pro BASKETBALL, in the Nba 717 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:10.760 and the jazz are not. 718 00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:12.280 Ready for it and it's a, big time. 719 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.039 Bummer all right IT'S not just nba playoff, action GOING 720 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.239 on also nhl playoff. Action Going on so we're Gonna 721 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.639 Bring in neil. Smith coming up on, the Other Side 722 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.159 the utah mammoth have made a couple. Of signings today 723 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.639 we'll tell you who they are and go. OVER those 724 00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.480 details rsl is, in action Tonight taking on austin. On 725 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.599 The road jason christ will roll, by later On and 726 00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.880 The university of utah Football program welcome zan a bevy 727 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.559 of twenty twenty six recruits for campus visits coming. Up 728 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.599 This weekend chris. CAMARADDIE will stop i will do some college. 729 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:47.280 Football with, Ck You know big dave. Is In town old. 730 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.360 MAN'S in town i don't know. If he's listening, he's 731 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:51.440 got meetings but, if he. 732 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.039 Is you just made. 733 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.599 HIM very. Happy i was, You know what i'll, JUST 734 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.320 say this i was raised With Too. 735 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.880 Much, neil young okay there's Nothing Wrong, with neil young 736 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:04.800 but all things in moderation and growing up in THE 737 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.400 household that i Did Too. 738 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:07.559 Much neil young i'm not gonna. 739 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.159 Lie, THAT'S fair, Well i mean i've told you my 740 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.639 dad took me to like Twenty maybe. 741 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:18.880 Thirty, tesla concerts, indeed they're fine, listen, to, fine yeah indeed. 742 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:23.920 But, rest, His soul, dude come. On, for sure sure 743 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:24.320 let's see. 744 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.360 A different show that's A lot of Tesla Concerts And. 745 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:31.199 Crosby still's nash in my Household, Was, Only crosby Stills. 746 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.239 Nash and, young so well Welcome In Another neil neil 747 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.559 Smith on. A, wednesday afternoon neil is there music that 748 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.719 you get nostalgic for that you were raised. 749 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.320 With when you? Were, GROWN up well i just want. 750 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.920 To tell you have you? Answered this question do You 751 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.440 Know where neil? Young? IS from originally. 752 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.960 I honestly don't I'm, in The midwest somewhere ohio because 753 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:56.519 he wrote a Great. 754 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:57.840 Song called ohio i've no idea. 755 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.000 The Same place neil Smith. Is, from toronto oh. 756 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.599 LOOK at that a Couple of Great. Neils from toronto 757 00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:05.639 and his. 758 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.880 Dad was the sports Editor for. The, toronto newspaper oh. 759 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.239 He Smokes good Neil Young. Knowledge neil smith. I'm very, 760 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.519 impressed so, yeah my father, who's in town he. Might be, listening. 761 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.800 SO hello dad i was raised with a Copious Amounts. 762 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.079 OF neil young i don't know if you know that. 763 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.320 ABOUT my dad i think he might. 764 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.840 Be his, favorite, oh well see he Always likes a neil, 765 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:28.920 in his Life. 766 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.079 And a canadian deal at that, At that, right so 767 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.079 music what music were you? Raised raised On A young 768 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.760 neil smith Growing. Up in toronto what were? 769 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.440 You, raised on, well let's see you're going to AGE 770 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.920 me when, i TELL you because i was around eight 771 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.199 nine years Old with the beatles and that was A 772 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.159 craze like i've never seen before, in my life never probably. 773 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:56.280 Will see again. Just TOTAL insanity and i was right in. 774 00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.039 THERE with it I thought the beatles were the greatest. 775 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.920 Thing on earth, AND you know i remember my father 776 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.559 WHO departed when, i was ten but complaining about. Their 777 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.320 long hair and of course their hair and it doesn't look. 778 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.719 Long at all it looks like just they haven't been 779 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:14.360 to the barber. For a week but no that times 780 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.639 were different there in the early Sixties when the beatles 781 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:19.079 came over And Performed. 782 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.239 ON ed sullivan i Love it and I'm a, huge beatles. 783 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.760 Guy so impressed? What is it it seems there's got 784 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:27.320 to be something in the Water. Up In canada the 785 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:32.840 canadians breed so many, talented, like. Comedians musicians actors there's 786 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.840 like this, creative artistic, bug you know kind of bug 787 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.239 up there that seems to breed so many creative people. 788 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:44.119 WHY is that i don't know. If that's, true Per 789 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:49.440 Capita the united states breeds tons and tons, of you know, 790 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:55.639 unbelievable TALENTS too but i really don't know why that 791 00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.960 would be if it's. PER capita higher i think maybe 792 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.159 just that they have a lot of they're not so 793 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.719 worried about money when They're younger, as americans are and 794 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.400 because they're not as capitalistic There. As in america but 795 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:15.840 that's THE only thing i. 796 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.000 Can, think, Of okay well i'm just Trying to pay 797 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.599 Canadians to compliment neil is all On this. Lovely wednesday 798 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.079 afternoon i'll Tell you, what canadians do breed a bunch of. Great, 799 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.960 hockey players however for the first time since, nineteen Thirty 800 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.840 Three the united States Wins The. Hockey World cup and 801 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.400 i'm not going To pretend like i'm a expert On 802 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:39.000 The The, hockey world Championships But four utah mammoth players 803 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.119 are now, gold medal winners including The CAPTAIN, Of Team. Usa, 804 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.840 clayton KELLER so, like i said this tournament on my 805 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.400 radar this year because our local guys were, so well 806 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:50.800 represented is this. 807 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.840 A tournament that moves the? 808 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.760 Needle for you and what are Your THOUGHTS on team 809 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:55.639 usa winning it for the first time in. 810 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.039 Ninety, Two years yeah. 811 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.440 I'm just happy they haven't won it. SINCE nineteen three 812 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.559 i don't quite understand why That's been but canada GOT 813 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.760 knocked out I think by denmark or something early, in 814 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.519 the tournament and they had all The They had sydney 815 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.559 crosby and the group of stars playing. On That team 816 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.400 so i'm Unhappy For the, united States team. The america 817 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.000 team i'm Happy for th thompson who scored the overtime 818 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.920 winning goal because he suffered through a number of Years 819 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.440 now with buffalo and them not. Making the playoffs and, 820 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.000 you know what it's Just good for it's good for 821 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.639 those guys and good for the country and we'll hopefully 822 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.599 spur on other young athletes to want to. 823 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.199 Be hockey players the landscape of the future, OF the, 824 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.639 sport i mean do the majority of the best young 825 00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.840 players Still. Come from Canada Has the united states Closed 826 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:48.480 the gap russia when things? Are normal, politically of course 827 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.920 always in the conversation about one of the, Best hockey 828 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.239 countries so, Just generally speaking i'm not. 829 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.920 Asking for specifics the future of the Sport. LIES where 830 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.199 neil i think it lies. 831 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:03.840 All, over The world but, Russia For sure united, states 832 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.360 for Sure And the united states is closing, the gap, 833 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:11.559 Because For example austin Matthews, Comes. From scottsdale Arizona You've 834 00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.840 got clayton Keller Coming, From. Saint louis missouri they're coming 835 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.039 from all. Over. THE place now nhl players, are talented 836 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.559 guys and that's because the sport has caught on a 837 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:26.119 lot more Now In the united states with the thirty 838 00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.119 two teams being. In the league with the nineteen, EIGHTY 839 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.559 gold medal i think was very, big for, kids you 840 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.920 know born, in the eighties born in the, seventies AND 841 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.840 eighties and i Think That the united states eventually will 842 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.159 close the gap because there's ten times the Population In 843 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.679 the united states that We. Have in canada so it's 844 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.239 what's really good about it is there EVERYWHERE is. Producing 845 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:56.400 nhl players and even there's a one, Of, The Players, 846 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.079 zuker jason zuker who played Last. Year in Buffalo He's, 847 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.119 from las vegas. Of all things, so you know they 848 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:05.800 come from everywhere and it's, good to. 849 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.239 See All Right the utah mammoth signed a couple of 850 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.280 twenty twenty, Three. FIRST rounders dmitri I believe it's Samashev. 851 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.119 And Then denil but i'm not going to ask you 852 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.400 to break down who these players are because we don't know. 853 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.000 Much about them but it is transactionally a. Story around 854 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:28.440 here so three year entry level contracts signed by two 855 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.360 young players are defenseman? And, a forward today just? What 856 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.920 is that what exactly? Does that Mean What did bill? 857 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:35.880 Armstrong do today he. 858 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.440 Gave him three year, Entry level contracts which is Good 859 00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.280 news for bill and his staff and the fans because 860 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.800 that means that anyway to this point that they. Were 861 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.519 successful picks doesn't mean they're going. TO be stars I 862 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.239 don't And i don't i've never seen, the players MYSELF 863 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:56.239 but what i do know that it means is that they, 864 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.840 like those players they like the, way they've developed and 865 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.119 they started THEM on. An nhl career whether they have 866 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:07.599 to Start In the american league or they START in the, 867 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.880 nhl right. AWAY who knows i, certainly don't know but 868 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.199 signing young players is. A good sign. 869 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.760 Nhl, draft COMING Up The ut hockey club with a. Fourth, 870 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.719 OVERALL pick again i want to ask you about exactly 871 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.880 who should they, pick it for because that's. 872 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.679 Probably an exercise you've got to dig into a bunch. 873 00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.000 Of YOUNG prospects and i continue to, remind our market 874 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.679 and you're good to. Remind us too we are a 875 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.559 basketball market for, basically fifty years and we're Used to 876 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.400 the jazz drafting a rookie who more often than not 877 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.239 plays for the. Team, right away now they're not always 878 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.119 ready to, play right away but we, see them typically 879 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.599 certainly if they're a number. Four Overall pick the jazz 880 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.760 have a top five pick and they badly need somebody 881 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.480 to come in and. Play right away so what's, the 882 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.320 you know and you remind us a lot of these 883 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:56.920 young hockey players will not be playing for the senior. 884 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.079 Club right away most of them don't for maybe, a 885 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.519 few years if. Not long longer but when you have a, 886 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.840 top five pick you have a, good young team you. 887 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.199 Have cap space what are some of the conversations Happening 888 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.679 With the utah mammoth front office right now in preparation? 889 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.199 For a draft they could bring bringing them a really really, 890 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.559 good young piece or they could use that as an 891 00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.400 asset to extraby growth and bring. 892 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.800 In, a vet well you've pretty well. Summed it up 893 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.159 if they get the. Fourth overall, pick, it's four right 894 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.760 not for. It's, for, correct yeah yeah they're going to get. 895 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:27.639 A good player they're going to get a. Very good 896 00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.480 player whether he can play this year or not will 897 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.199 be seen in training camp and judged by, THE coaching. 898 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.159 Staff i guess but they're going to GET a, definite 899 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.320 nhl player and it should BE a. Good nhl player how? 900 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:46.440 GOOD who, knows i mean these, players are eighteen they 901 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:50.679 play either in junior hockey or In in, a european league, 902 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:56.440 or in college and it's a very hard barometer to 903 00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.599 use as to how they'll play when they GET to. 904 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.679 THE na level i know that from talking to your 905 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:06.559 dad for years that it's the there's a lot easier 906 00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:13.400 comparison between COLLEGE, basketball and nba, and you know which 907 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:17.000 guys that play in college at a high level we'll 908 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.719 be able to make IT. Into the nba that's a 909 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.800 little bit more up in the air when you're talking 910 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.840 about hockey because there's so many different factors and it's 911 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.400 really hard to. Make that judgment but the good News 912 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.719 for the mammoth Fans Is that bill armstrong and his 913 00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.760 scouting stuff will definitely get a good player. At number, 914 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.440 FOUR all right. 915 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.639 I want to stick with a couple of offseason storylines 916 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.840 before we Get to. The final, four, both series well 917 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.039 every single series IN either the NBA, or the nhl 918 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.159 we find ourselves at, three to one which is kind 919 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.639 of a bummer for somebody who just wants To see 920 00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.880 some game sevens and some exciting playoff. Hockey and basketball 921 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.239 maybe we'll get there. In the finals but Tell Me, 922 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.960 about mitch marner who is a Center For, the maple 923 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:01.920 leaves who is a free agent at the age, of 924 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.000 twenty eight and whether or not you. THINK he is 925 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.920 i know that he probably could pick his destination because 926 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:10.800 of how highly thought. Of he is but when you 927 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.800 look At what the mammoth need and, who he is 928 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.960 and the fact that he's, a free agent it's a name. 929 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.960 To talk about Tell Me, About Mitch, Martner Neil well 930 00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:19.719 mitch marner is. 931 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.159 An excellent Player he's from toronto and Plays For, the 932 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.800 toronto maypolice so there's a lot of pressure he felt, 933 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:30.280 by playing there, and he felt according, to my sources 934 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.760 that he had unfairly been criticized And, judged in. Toronto 935 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.719 HIS hometown and. I get that i understand that maybe 936 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.519 he wants to move on to a place where he's 937 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.679 not so conspicuous that every time you go, out for 938 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:48.119 dinner you know somebody's saying something, to you there interrupting. 939 00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.559 You or whatever and that's what It's. Like in toronto. 940 00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.360 He's very fast he's not. A BIG guy HE'S i 941 00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.079 can't i don't know, his exact measurements but he's he's not. 942 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.760 A big, guy he's slight but he is can play 943 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.360 all special teams and, a regular shift so, he kills 944 00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.960 penalties plays, the power play and plays. Five on five 945 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.760 he got over one hundred, points this year so he's. 946 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:16.119 The real deal he's probably best suited on a if 947 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.840 he Was On a, stanley cup team to be the, 948 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.639 second line center because you want to, have a big 949 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.880 more powerful guy at a, first Line Center like Austin 950 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.719 matthews or nate McKinnon or one, of these, big strong 951 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:32.000 guys and then you know you have a great. Second 952 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.199 Line Center, by mitch marner but he's definitely at the 953 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.679 top of the, free agent list along with other Guys 954 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.920 like Brock message from vancouver and. 955 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.360 A few others So according To greg WICH, nisky from 956 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.480 espn he lists three teams to make the most sense 957 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.639 as far as making A Play, for mitch marner and 958 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.239 the teams he Lists Are, the Anaheim Ducks, the chicago 959 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:56.280 Blackhawks And. The utah mammoth bill's got a lot, of 960 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.119 cap space he's, got salary flexibility he's got. Money to 961 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.800 spend Do you think utah takes A Look At mitch 962 00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:03.840 marner and, if. 963 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:04.880 They do what do you think? 964 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:05.000 That? 965 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.199 LOOKS like Well i think. 966 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.960 Svence it all it's all going to be in The 967 00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:14.679 Evaluation of mitch marner and where he. Wants to PLAY 968 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.000 and when, I say where i. DON'T mean geographically i 969 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.000 mean is it really important to him that he's on 970 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.280 a team that Could? Win the cup not, maybe this 971 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.320 year but he can see them winning in a year or. 972 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.159 Two or three, if he does he want to be 973 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.039 on a Team That's got connor madart and rebuilding and 974 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.639 you may not make the. Playoffs, next year again you 975 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.239 know that's that's. A good question or is he in 976 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.880 love with The city of Chicago And With hugh tah 977 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.920 he put them. OVER the top i think he put them. 978 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.079 Into the playoffs he wouldn't be the final piece of, 979 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.960 the puzzle though because you're. Not that close but he, 980 00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.400 HE would, definitely i think propel that team. Into, the 981 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:03.079 playoffs again it's all going to. Depend on him does he, 982 00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.079 want to live, first of all in different time Zone 983 00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.159 than the eastern time zone where. He's always lived does 984 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.559 he want to play? For a contender does he want 985 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.000 to play for a team that's the middle. Of the 986 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.559 road does he want to play for a rebuilding team 987 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:18.760 and be the superstar of. A, rebuilding team again that's all. 988 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.760 What's going on or does he just want to go for, 989 00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.639 the MOST money, WHICH i doubt i. 990 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:26.119 Really doubt that put yourself in The Shoes Of bill 991 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.519 armstrong neil as somebody who has been a roster constructor 992 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.079 at the highest levels. In pro hockey And let's, say bill, 993 00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.480 Calls You know mitch martyer and he talks, to His 994 00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.159 agent and mitch agrees to take A meeting with bill 995 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.159 and considers Playing For. The utah mammoth what do you 996 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.960 sell him as far as trying to get him to 997 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.440 agree to play for, this young group because we know 998 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:51.559 that he's going to have a bevy. Of different options 999 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.159 what's kind of the Selling point that bill has in 1000 00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:55.440 his back pocket for A Player. 1001 00:49:55.559 --> 00:50:00.239 LIKE mitch marner i think all teams now that are 1002 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.679 interested in the free agent market put together a recruitment 1003 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:08.079 presentation like college teams do when they're trying to recruit 1004 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.360 the best young guys out there because they've got a 1005 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.360 choice to go. Where they want so there would BE 1006 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.920 a whole i would imagine video show that Bring. Him 1007 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.519 into utah they would show Him How Wonderful salt, lake 1008 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.679 city is all the. Opportunity that's there they would show 1009 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.400 him the arena and how. Beautiful that is they'd get 1010 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.840 him to meet some of the key players so that 1011 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.079 he knows that they're. Really good, guys of course the 1012 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:32.679 coach is going to play a big part of it 1013 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.360 and telling him what role he'll have. On the team 1014 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:40.320 it'll be a two, or three, day you know visit 1015 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.760 where he'll stay in. The best hotel he'll go out 1016 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.320 for dinner with all, the Significant People including ryan smith, 1017 00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.719 and his Wife And obviously bill armstrong And. Obviously coach 1018 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.280 tourney so they'll wine and dine him sort of speak 1019 00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.719 to try to sell Him On Why salt lake city 1020 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.039 would be a great destination. 1021 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.760 FOR his career i want to ask you about a 1022 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.079 couple of other players before we get to the teams that. 1023 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:11.039 Are still playing, and you know IT'S interesting because i 1024 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:17.159 First Learned about sam bennett during THE tournament Where usa 1025 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.719 played Canada In the four nations and He was Fighting. 1026 00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.880 Brady could chuck, And ironically enough sam's teammate that he 1027 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.199 plays really Well with Is matthew could Chuck. 1028 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:29.599 Down in florida now. They're still playing. 1029 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.840 Sam's twenty nine he is an unrestricted free agent and, 1030 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.320 he you know it's not just his production, twenty five goals. 1031 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:38.719 Twenty six assists he also had. 1032 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.599 Ninety penalty minutes and there were a LOT of times 1033 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.679 i Was Watching the utah mammoth THIS year where i 1034 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.840 didn't feel like they, had the fight didn't feel like they, 1035 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.599 had the. Grit The physicality so florida probably wants. To 1036 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.000 keep Him But if sam bennett decides to kick the 1037 00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.760 tires on, unrestricted free Agency Does the utah mammoth make 1038 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:56.559 sense as far as. 1039 00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.760 A fit GOES i think i don't Know what teams 1040 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.320 bennett wouldn't be, a fit for because. He said could 1041 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.639 he brings an element of nastiness to the Team, along 1042 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.920 with Kachuk Along, with brad marshawn but he also IS 1043 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.559 from what I Understand from paul maurice is, a great 1044 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.360 teammate is a guy that. He Loves coaching sam bennett's 1045 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.400 worked with. THE younger players i know that for, a 1046 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.719 fact himself and it's taking them. Under his wing he 1047 00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.320 seems to have all the credentials you'd want to be 1048 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.920 an integral part. Of, the team again he's he can play. 1049 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.000 Both both ways he can, play very physical but then 1050 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:39.960 he can score. On you too so he's one Of 1051 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.800 those guys spence that when he's on the other team, 1052 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:45.719 you hate him and then when you get him on 1053 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.159 your team. You love him he's just it's one way. 1054 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.960 Or the, other one more one more. 1055 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.159 Potential free agent just looking at the list as far 1056 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.159 As What The, utah Hockey Claer, the utah mammoth, what 1057 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.880 they need what, they could use the money they have, 1058 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.480 at their disposal and then the ages. Of PLAYERS available 1059 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.639 brock i Believe it's A bozer from vancouver Right it's, 1060 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.480 pronounced besser okay, so right wing twenty, eight years old 1061 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.360 scored forty goals a couple. Of years ago again still 1062 00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.519 young and a position of need for. THE hockey club 1063 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.440 i don't know Whether or not vancouver. Wants him back 1064 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.880 i'm reading now that he potentially could make his Way 1065 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.800 to the wild Because he's. A minnesota native And then 1066 00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.719 the Hurricanes and the devils mentioned His potential for. Brock 1067 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.360 as well but at the age, of twenty eight, young 1068 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.559 right winger is this a player that could Fit Here 1069 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:40.239 in salt Lake For. 1070 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.320 The, utah Ammath Yeah and. 1071 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.760 Brock besser could sit. On any team it's unbelievable To 1072 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.360 me that vancouver let. THIS guy walk i can't believe 1073 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.679 they didn't get him signed a year ago and. Wrap 1074 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.599 them up he is a hell. Of a player he's 1075 00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.599 an ingredient. That everybody needs he, can score, goals he's. 1076 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.719 Big he's strong he's not Going, back to vancouver he, 1077 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:06.360 said that already and he's going somewhere else WHERE that is. 1078 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.199 I wouldn't know but whoever gets him is going to 1079 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.760 improve their hockey team. By getting, him. 1080 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.960 All right there are still, Teams playing hockey so let's talk. 1081 00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.480 About these teams let's talk. About these series both are. 1082 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.119 Three To one the oilers were able to get it 1083 00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.559 done at home again where they have just been dynamic, 1084 00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.960 For to one so they're up three to one now 1085 00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.679 out Here In. The west final what do you make 1086 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.480 Of the way edmonton's been able to dominate through four 1087 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.039 games And you give dallas a fighting chance to get back. 1088 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.760 In, the thing well they really have dominated through all 1089 00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:42.960 all of the games, in the series because If you, 1090 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.079 remember game one they had a lead of three to 1091 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.599 one going into the third Period and allowed dallas to 1092 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.400 score five goals. In the third so. That's An anomaly 1093 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.119 why edmonton, is so dangerous. There's three reasons they've got, 1094 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:03.480 two franchise superstars and McDavid and dry cidel who were 1095 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.880 at playing at the top. Of their game they're getting 1096 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.079 secondary scoring, from, their second third and fourth. Lines And Defense, 1097 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.840 and stuart skinner their goaltender that was thought by many 1098 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.039 to maybe be their problem area that they could be 1099 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:21.039 caught up. With their goaltenate he. Has BEEN phenomenal so 1100 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.079 I don't give dallas. A chance now i did before, 1101 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.079 the series STARTED but when I see how edmonton has, 1102 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.760 turned IT on and i remember last Year's movie when 1103 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.119 edmonton suddenly got better and better as the. Playoffs, Went on. 1104 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:39.000 No i'm sorry i'd like to Give my Friend peter 1105 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.119 De Boor and JIM. NIL the gm i hope that 1106 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.679 they would come back, in THIS series but i don't see. 1107 00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.559 It ALL right before i, Set you loose let's move 1108 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.679 Over to, the East now where florida clearly has. 1109 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.440 Turned It on the hurricanes were able. To get one 1110 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:54.119 can they at least? 1111 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:56.199 Get it tonight make it interesting or do you feel 1112 00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.320 like it's more or less over out Here. 1113 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.559 In the, EAST you know i. 1114 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.639 Don't know that florida, will win tonight although, if you 1115 00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:05.719 may if you made me pick one team, Or the 1116 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.519 Other i'd say florida's going to. End it tonight And 1117 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.559 the reason i'd say that is because the three guys 1118 00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.280 that were out for them that, are important PIECES. WHICH. Were, 1119 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:17.840 A J, greer Miko mikola And. Sam rein, hard of 1120 00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.400 course those three Didn't play in Game. Four in florida 1121 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:27.320 they're All playing for Florida. Tonight IN carolina So i 1122 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.719 think carolina's. Had their, win you know they've been a 1123 00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.400 very strong home. Team all, Year but boy florida is 1124 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:38.239 so good and has played so, well against them and 1125 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.920 they seem to be. Clicking really well blebrovski's playing. Great in, 1126 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:47.840 NET so again i. DON'T know that I wouldn't say carolina, 1127 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.840 can't WIN tonight, BUT i would i would bet on this, 1128 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.239 thing ending tonight. 1129 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:55.400 ALL right before i, say you lose and we'll visit 1130 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:56.559 with you before the Start Of the. 1131 00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.840 Stanley cup playoffs but If it Is, florida and edmonton 1132 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.599 what's the, really early take what's the really early gut feel? 1133 00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:04.840 On that, Series. 1134 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.760 You know I've been saying florida since it was, going 1135 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.159 to win since close to the end. OF the season 1136 00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.039 i said. It last year but, you Know what like 1137 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:18.480 edmonton SCARES me when i say, Scares my prediction that's. 1138 00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:21.960 What it scares it. Scares my predictions and it scares 1139 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.639 me that They're playing, For CANADA now, Like i mean 1140 00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.320 canada Hasn't Had a stanley cup since Ninety three WHEN 1141 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:33.519 Montreal beat pla kings and they look. Really really good, 1142 00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:38.000 So You know i'm i'm Not sure how i'll. SWING 1143 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.599 my thing i think it'll. GO seven games i think 1144 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:44.480 it'll be a series that you'll it'll. Be JUST dynamic 1145 00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.199 AND i GUESS i guess i Shouldn't Be a benedict 1146 00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.639 arnold and go back on, my Own pick but i'll Still. 1147 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:52.920 Go with. 1148 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.360 Florida fair enough neill tell all of our listeners where 1149 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.119 they can go find that. Podcast, to yours well. 1150 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.039 We're doing it. Almost Every. Day email Spence We're doing 1151 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.039 stanley cup dates, after every game and then WE'RE Doing 1152 00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.360 The Nhl, wrap round show which we Actually Just had 1153 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.920 ken HALL and do Gm Of. The la kings he 1154 00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:14.400 was on. With us yesterday it's on all, The, Podcast, Platforms, 1155 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:22.320 apple spotify YouTube iHeart anybody that's got a podcast platform 1156 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.480 has our. Podcast on. It we're growing we've had our 1157 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.199 most downloads in a month this month and the month's, 1158 00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:31.880 not over yet so. IT is growing i Hope People In, 1159 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.480 salt lake city if they're listening or we'll give it 1160 00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:39.119 a listen. And Maybe subscribe and i'm hoping that the 1161 00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:40.400 people that do listen learn. 1162 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.000 Things, GREAT stuff neil i appreciate. Your time today keep 1163 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:45.079 up the great work and we'll get. 1164 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.000 You, On, soon okay hey if. 1165 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.360 You're going to see that, basketball guy tonight tell him. 1166 00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:50.639 HI from me i, Will. 1167 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.280 For sure, neil, thank you, sir, be well, okay be. 1168 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:53.840 Well thank. 1169 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.119 You all right coming up next we will. 1170 00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:58.679 Preview, tonight's match yes it is a Game day For 1171 00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:03.199 ral salak rare MIDWEEK. Game For rsl jason christ Will 1172 00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.679 Stop By Chris camaradnie liven studio for the. Four o'clock 1173 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:08.519 hour there's a lot of college football news. 1174 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:10.559 To get to we'll DO. That with ck it covers 1175 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:11.280 college football. 1176 00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.119 For the athletic but before we, catch a break we welcome, 1177 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:16.599 In My guy Jeff Fox From pure life Medical. 1178 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:18.840 On, A Wednesday, jeff? Happy wednesday sir how? 1179 00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:19.039 Are you? 1180 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.079 Hey doing great? 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Just, Mentioned, espn. 1222 01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:12.679 Okay jeff, thank you sir be, well you. 1223 01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.320 Too all Right purelifemedical dot com is the Website the 1224 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:18.840 referenced you, can call them but go get all their 1225 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:19.440 information Of. 1226 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.000 Purelifemedical dot com pure. 1227 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.960 Is spelled PUR there's, No e There so Pure lifemedical 1228 01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:29.679 Dot Com in cottonwood Heights and In layton appreciate jeff's 1229 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:30.480 time Today on. 1230 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.519 This wednesday afternoon doesn't it just dollars put you in? 1231 01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:35.840 A great, mood i mean say what YOU want about 1232 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:41.119 u Be forty, but wednesday afternoon, eighty degrees outside and 1233 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.239 it's been a while since we've rocked in a ub 1234 01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:45.960 forty on. ON the program i mean instantly when, you 1235 01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.360 hear this doesn't it improve your? 1236 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:48.960 Mood right away, one hundred yeah. 1237 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.599 And NOT ironically and i don't know what you were 1238 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.920 alluding to, when you say say what you Want about, 1239 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.559 You be, Forty but well, i'm. 1240 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:58.000 ON board, no i, mean you know there aren't many 1241 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:02.280 people that have the uh vulnerability to admit a band 1242 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:04.440 that is so summarily dismissed as their favorite. 1243 01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:06.039 Of all time AND it's why i respect. 1244 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:10.960 Our next GUEST He Is Rsl Legend club director jason 1245 01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:14.280 Christ on. A, Wednesday, afternoon hello jason, how? 1246 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.800 Are you sir most that was, quite the introduction. 1247 01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:19.880 Quite the? Introduction? Thank YOU well? AM i? 1248 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:21.639 Wrong i mean are you not instantly in? A? 1249 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.440 BETTER mood yes i am instantly in. A BETTER mood 1250 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.679 and i was thinking perhaps the mood that brightens for 1251 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.800 you isn't about, you be forty, but in fact because 1252 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.320 you know you're going to be speaking to, me next. 1253 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.519 Well you know you're one of, my favorite people which 1254 01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:36.760 leads me, to ask you why have you not been 1255 01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:37.760 on the program for at? 1256 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:39.360 Least two months what gives. 1257 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:42.519 You've got to be invited to? BE on Here i 1258 01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.039 think i'm not so SURE certain that i LIKE the 1259 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.599 hotline i can call. And get on but if you 1260 01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.760 want to, open that availability. 1261 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.519 We, could discuss jason you have a standing invitation to 1262 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:53.960 come into studio for an hour at a time, If 1263 01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:55.360 you'd like if you have the, time for us. 1264 01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:59.199 You, know that okay that to be careful what. You 1265 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:00.360 ask for that's? All about? 1266 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:01.760 That fair, enough all right let's. 1267 01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:05.039 Start right here as a man who made his living 1268 01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:09.559 scoring goals, in professional soccer what gives as far as 1269 01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:13.559 the lack. Of potency offensively more last you had a 1270 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:14.760 couple of goals in the first Tew. 1271 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.000 Minutes against vancouver. Which is great we'll get. To that game, 1272 01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:21.079 but you know? Is it personnel? Is it scheme is? 1273 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:26.840 It bad luck why the lack of consistent offensive potency 1274 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:27.639 from the club so? 1275 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:27.920 Far? 1276 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:28.039 This? 1277 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:28.760 YEAR jay. 1278 01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.239 YEAH i mean i think it comes down to one 1279 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.960 one sort of major thing and another sort. OF underlying, 1280 01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:38.920 factor i mean the major thing is that we have 1281 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:44.159 yet to identify the replacement for a very important player 1282 01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.679 that we lost Last, season in chico and so we 1283 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:52.039 have looked, under some, rocks let's say and we have 1284 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.280 looked at some young players to potentially, become that guy 1285 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.480 and ultimately we feel like nobody's really taken advantage of 1286 01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:02.079 that opportunity that's. Been given them so nobody is providing 1287 01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.800 us the answers to the questions that we, seek so 1288 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.079 far so which leads us to be very clear about 1289 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.119 scouting an opportunity. For this SUMMER but then i think 1290 01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:17.480 there's an underlying factor in that we are missing some 1291 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:22.960 quality and consistency from the players underneath, that striker position 1292 01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.000 And That really diego luna is the only one that 1293 01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:28.639 has shown us any sort of consistency, to his performances 1294 01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.400 and we need more more than one player out of 1295 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:36.159 those players that are essentially four positions to create some 1296 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:38.280 of those. Ghost line chances we'll. 1297 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:41.199 STICK with what i perceive to be some positive developments 1298 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.159 before we dig into SOME things that i will call problematic, In, 1299 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:46.280 YOU know jay i think you've got Something in. 1300 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.039 THIS gozo kid i have not watched him grow the. 1301 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.960 Way you have i've only seen Him recently after pablo 1302 01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.440 decided he had earned some time with. The SENIOR team 1303 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:58.880 and i DON'T know that i have a comp that, 1304 01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.599 comes to mind but, he's really energetic, he's very bright he's. 1305 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.239 Obviously very young he opened his bank account soccer term 1306 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.639 no big deal soccer guy over here last week by 1307 01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:10.280 finding the back. 1308 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:11.599 Of the net the same week he. 1309 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.599 Graduated high school and part of me, wants to say 1310 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.800 sign a damn, Grown up please but. We'll get there 1311 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.320 When you watch gozo and as you've, watched him develop 1312 01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:22.079 what stands out? 1313 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:22.559 Most, to you. 1314 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.519 Yeah he's A player that i've been paying, particular attention 1315 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.119 to REALLY since since i came here now a year and, 1316 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.320 a half ago because he's been stand out, in my 1317 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:35.960 eyes he's been a difference maker and the teams that, 1318 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:40.320 he's played with and he, shows, some real. Raw exciting 1319 01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:44.239 abilities and so he's a player that a lot of 1320 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.280 us in the club have been singing praises for, and 1321 01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:52.119 pushing towards pushing the coaches to recognize and pay attention 1322 01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.519 to him and. Work WITH him and i think all 1323 01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:56.519 of this has sort of come together here in the last. 1324 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.559 Couple of months and he has certainly earned, everything he's 1325 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.440 gotten there no. Doubt about it you have. Not given 1326 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.039 anything he has earned all the, opportunity he's gotten and 1327 01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:06.559 he's somebody that's taking a hold of those opportunities and. 1328 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:11.239 Making the difference so extremely excited about how he will, 1329 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:14.239 continue TO develop because i, still think, he's you know 1330 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:17.280 as you've as, you alluded to he's shown some, really 1331 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.360 bright spots but there's also some some pretty glaring improvement 1332 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.559 that needs to happen as he. Continues to develop does. 1333 01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.119 He remind you of anybody like what? 1334 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.000 Type of player and if it's, NOT a NAME i 1335 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.039 guess i could just ask, you like this what sort of? 1336 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.800 Player is he and what sort of player you envision 1337 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:33.880 him becoming once. IT'S fully, baked. 1338 01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.119 I, think you know he's a player that is a 1339 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.920 guy that likes to, run in behind which is very rare. 1340 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:44.719 In younger players he understands that, that's his strength is 1341 01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:46.800 to try to receive the ball behind the, opponent's back 1342 01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.760 line and then he needs to he needs to, Make 1343 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.360 plays happen so he needs to get into these areas 1344 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:54.480 that we call primary systems and needs to make. The 1345 01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.599 right decision that's a little bit. WHERE he's lacking i 1346 01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.360 think he's a tremendous Finisher from. What i've seen high 1347 01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:02.480 level finisher doesn't need a ton of chances to, score 1348 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.159 HIS goals so i think he kind. Of has that 1349 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:09.599 and he's got an incredible aerobic capacity and that bears 1350 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:11.280 out in the testing, that we do but it also 1351 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:12.000 bears out. 1352 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:12.199 In some of. 1353 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.960 The statistical data the physical data that he's putting out 1354 01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:19.480 is frankly record breaking for. Our first team so he's 1355 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:20.480 setting a new standard for. 1356 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.639 That, FOR sure okay i wanted to stick. 1357 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:24.840 With, The. 1358 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:30.039 Positives oh cobra he continues to, play really well and 1359 01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.199 now there's some things we'll get to that. Haven't been great, 1360 01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.000 but you know you guys made some summer window editions 1361 01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.360 last year that. WE'LL talk about i was curious during 1362 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.440 the offseason if you were going to figure something out 1363 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:45.880 in goal after an underwhelming campaign With McMath and gavin still, 1364 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:48.440 being very young, and you know as far as being 1365 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.519 able to hang your hat. ON good decisions i think 1366 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:52.280 it's safe to say that your keeper has been really. 1367 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:53.239 Good, this year jay give. 1368 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.239 Me, your thoughts yeah there's no. Doubt about THAT he's probably, 1369 01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.960 I would say i don't even. Think it's arguable he's 1370 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.239 been our best, performer this season. Which is great he, 1371 01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:07.400 Really LIKED that and i would say from a, team 1372 01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:09.840 building perspective we have added a PIECE to what i would. 1373 01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.880 Consider our core uh and so that's a positive and 1374 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.360 we need to continue. To do that but if you 1375 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:16.760 want to look at it from a little bit of 1376 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.640 a glass, half empty perspective it's never great when you 1377 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.840 feel like the goalkeeper is, The best performer you've probably 1378 01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:26.479 got other issues you need to. Talk about it if 1379 01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.279 the goalkeeper is the best. Player for You so is? 1380 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:34.199 Diego gone yet? As he left? Are you with Are you? Without? Diego, tonight, no. 1381 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.119 No no no he will go to national team CAMP 1382 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:38.600 After the. 1383 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.239 La, Galaxy game okay So, You have diego diego for 1384 01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.920 the next. Couple of games. Good to know so let's 1385 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:44.359 move let's. 1386 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.079 MOVE over here i always try, to be fair and 1387 01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.760 you know this because you KNOW how fair i am, 1388 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.479 as A human how, i GIVE back, how I care 1389 01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:54.199 how i'm about. 1390 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:55.439 LEADING with love i don't have. 1391 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.439 To convince you so whether it's on, air off air 1392 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.560 my whole goal every day IS how can i help 1393 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.520 my fellow man? And BE fair so i do not want. 1394 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.119 To Be unfair so i'm going to ask the, question 1395 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:08.159 like this what is fair To? Say about diogo WHO'S 1396 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:11.439 the only dp on your roster and you brought him 1397 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:13.720 in LAST year and i think a lot of people 1398 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:14.560 are just waiting to. 1399 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.600 See IT work and i know he's picked up a 1400 01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:17.119 little bit, of A. 1401 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.520 Knock and i know there's some things going on with 1402 01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:23.640 him off the pitch that you can allude to. If 1403 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:25.479 you'd like But the way i'll ask the question is 1404 01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:27.680 what's fair To? SAY about diogo. 1405 01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:33.520 I think it's very fair to say that he has 1406 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.520 not produced in this time here what we had hoped 1407 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.880 for or expected out of the. ACQUISITION of him i 1408 01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.920 would say that that doesn't mean that it's, been ALL 1409 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.600 bad because i do think that there was a moment 1410 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.680 at the beginning, of the season in THE preseason where 1411 01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:55.680 i thought things were heading in an. Extremely positive direction but, 1412 01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.560 ultimately right now where it fits right now, IS you 1413 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:01.439 know i think, everybody just, pointed including him, by the 1414 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:06.000 way he probably more so than, all of us has 1415 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.119 been disappointed. With his performance he's very critical of himself, 1416 01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:12.439 as a person and, so you know it just kind 1417 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:14.520 of is. What it is and then this happens. In 1418 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.880 professional sports this is never a, ZERO sum game i 1419 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:19.479 think is the way, to say it or one. Hundred 1420 01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:22.800 percent business we're going, to make mistakes so this may 1421 01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.560 prove to. Be a. Mistake we'll see what's the status. 1422 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.199 Of his health is he available for? 1423 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.600 The road trip he has been left off of the 1424 01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.960 road trip to. To disciplinary reasons. 1425 01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:38.680 Due, to disciplinary reasons can you shed any light that has? 1426 01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.359 Not been announced can you shedding the light onto why this. 1427 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.840 Decision came down it. 1428 01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:47.199 Came down basically because his behavior in the training sessions 1429 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:51.000 is not up To A real salt. Late, player standards okay. 1430 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:54.319 So Breaking news diogo gonsalva is not on the two 1431 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.680 game road trip due to disciplinary reasons handed down. By 1432 01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:01.239 the club hard hitting journalism on the little radio Program on. 1433 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:05.239 A wednesday afternoon, o big, Deal all right so who steps? 1434 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:08.359 Into that slot who ultimately is going to be tasked 1435 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:12.239 with trying To play alongside diego and hopefully helping them out. A, LITTLE. 1436 01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.520 Bit well i think in the last game Everybody saw 1437 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.920 that gozo played, in his position and then the tactics essentially. 1438 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.000 Changed a bit but now it looks a lot more 1439 01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:24.720 like we're playing, with TWO strikers which i think proved 1440 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:26.960 effective in the. First two goals to have the numbers 1441 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.199 of players that are involved in the finishing attack phase 1442 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:31.560 and are entering the penalty box to finish those, Attacks 1443 01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:34.920 is higher so we were quite happy with that and 1444 01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.239 quite interested to see it play out a. Little, bit longer. 1445 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:42.199 Okay so we've discussed the attempts you made during the 1446 01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:48.039 primary transfer window to bring Players Over the BOSNI bosnik 1447 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:50.439 kid i think that's how you say his name that 1448 01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:53.840 obviously didn't work in the situation with his. Club was 1449 01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.640 untenable so we. Know all that so let's talk about 1450 01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:59.239 the acquisitions you did make and what you've. Seen so 1451 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.760 Far Start With, willy willy jagata who has three starts 1452 01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.000 in five games played and we're still waiting for a goal. 1453 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:10.079 From our guy so of course the pe brain soccer 1454 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:12.039 part of me is just waiting for. Him the score 1455 01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.920 are you seeing anything that is positive outside of the 1456 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:17.279 fact that he has not found the back of. 1457 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:21.159 The, Net, yet, yeah no absolutely there's been some some 1458 01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:23.239 things he's done for the team and this hold up 1459 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.800 play in his physical presence that has. ABSOLUTELY helped us 1460 01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.359 i think he's a player any striker that comes into 1461 01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:32.840 a new system is going. To take time they have 1462 01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.520 to understand exactly how and where and when they're going 1463 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.239 to get their. GOAL scoring chances i don't feel like 1464 01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:42.319 he's a player that has had six or eight chances 1465 01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:45.199 and just. Not taken them some of his best chances 1466 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.159 are actually called off due to somebody else being in an. 1467 01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:50.319 Off side position, but you know there's goals. In this 1468 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:52.439 player he has Scored Goals. For kansas city this isn't 1469 01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:54.000 like a player that has never scored GOALS in the 1470 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.279 mls and we're just kind of. Rolling the dice this 1471 01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.119 is a player that has some, history doing it so 1472 01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:01.119 we believe that that THERE'S more and i think it 1473 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:06.199 could be one one for in the, category of striker 1474 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.399 just needing a little bit of luck in that sort 1475 01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:12.520 of category and one goal comes and maybe the. Flood 1476 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:13.279 banks open. 1477 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:17.479 We've only, Seen Johnny once johnny russell once fifteen minutes, 1478 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:20.600 off the, BENCH and look i mean we should. PROBABLY 1479 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.760 set expectations i think you probably. Played against him he 1480 01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.600 is not. A young player. There we go there WAS 1481 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.760 the laugh i. Was waiting for and he hasn't been 1482 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:32.439 with the club for a number. Of different months so 1483 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:34.960 what can you tell us about the process to get 1484 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:36.840 him involved and do you think we'll see him? 1485 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.680 More moving forward and also what's reasonable To. Really, expect 1486 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:41.279 jay yeah. 1487 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:43.920 This is a really difficult situation, because you know when 1488 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:48.239 you're not in A team since november and you kind 1489 01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:51.720 of go into the off season, with an injury it 1490 01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:54.199 leaves you in a position where you've got to. Get 1491 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:58.239 soccer fitness so it's one thing to do the, physical 1492 01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:01.560 fitness testing which he did and. Scored very well so 1493 01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:05.239 from aerobic, Capacity it's there but from a, soccer playing 1494 01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:08.680 perspective it involves so much more than, just you know doing, 1495 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.800 a beat test and so we've got to he's got 1496 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.920 to be built in a smart way and we are 1497 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:17.720 trying to. MANAGE through that i actually think he will 1498 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.319 be one that will, gain a big big bump in 1499 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.800 his fitness and his readiness when we have this international. 1500 01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:26.079 Break coming up is he? 1501 01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:27.720 On the trip? Is he available is he? 1502 01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:27.840 On? 1503 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.039 The, trip, yes? Yes yes, yes all, right all. 1504 01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.359 Right let's Go back to diego. For, A moment okay 1505 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:38.560 so clearly his star continues to just shoot. Through the 1506 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:41.920 room and, as you reference after This, two game roadie 1507 01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:44.720 he will exit and he will PLAY with the us 1508 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:47.199 men's national Team In. The gold cup let me ask 1509 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.399 you this question before we get to how it pertains 1510 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:54.159 To Your club. Gold cup appearances Can you Remember kyle 1511 01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:58.600 and Nick and even tony before they were. National TEAM 1512 01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:03.079 regulars if, i REMEMBER correctly their us men's national team 1513 01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.800 experience started with a really Successful Running. THE gold cup 1514 01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.680 I can remember kyle scoring a, Couple of goals nikki. 1515 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:12.319 Playing really well could this be a conduit to a 1516 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.680 regular Rotational spot for diego WITH the senior us men's 1517 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.960 national team and maybe enough to get him POTENTIALLY with 1518 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.560 the us men's national team so we could see him 1519 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:23.119 Play In. A. 1520 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.199 World cup yes. 1521 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.079 Without a doubt and, so you know coaches that get 1522 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.520 to work with, the international players they're such. Small windows 1523 01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.119 oftentimes and then on, top of that you play in, 1524 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:39.520 what's called friendlies and so, coaches and, players you know 1525 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:41.439 tend to be a bit more relaxed, in those games 1526 01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:45.800 so you don't oftentimes get the full view of what 1527 01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.920 a player is capable of until they're in a, tournament 1528 01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:52.600 like this a major international tournament that. Lasts several weeks 1529 01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:56.239 but now you have all of the on field data 1530 01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:59.439 that you will need in a competitive environment with a trophy, 1531 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.079 in the line, oneyam the line and you also have 1532 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.239 the social data that you will need when you are 1533 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.359 in and amongst players for two to three. To four 1534 01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:11.720 WEEKS and so i think that this is a major 1535 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.279 opportunity For, not just diego but for all of the 1536 01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:17.680 players that are Part Of this. Gold cup roster the 1537 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:22.239 one other interesting part OF The way us Soccer And 1538 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:26.239 the gold cup mix is that typically because it's, during 1539 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:31.600 the summer most of the big name players Playing in 1540 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:35.720 big european clubs opt out of, this tournament essentially so 1541 01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:37.319 it allows opportunity for others. 1542 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:40.880 To Step, Forward All right so pablo hopped on the 1543 01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:44.039 show last week and dropped a little bit Of a 1544 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.560 well i'll call. IT a bombshell i was a little 1545 01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.399 bit surprised to hear. Him say it We talked to 1546 01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:51.640 kurt about it a couple Of days after pablo's hit 1547 01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:55.840 because it's clear that there Is, interest in diego and 1548 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.600 as he continues to, grow and evolved there will be Extreme. 1549 01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.199 Interest IN diego and i want, To be clear i'm 1550 01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:04.479 not saying that you guys would, never sell him because 1551 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.279 if you get a phone call from a legitimate team 1552 01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:09.399 in a league overseas that wants to pay you a, 1553 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:13.000 GRIP of money i understand why proof of concept means 1554 01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:13.319 that you'd. 1555 01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:17.239 Probably Take it but pablo said last week the new ownership. 1556 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.479 Group has informed him and you guys that they're no 1557 01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:23.640 longer interested interested in this ethos of developing young players 1558 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:27.159 and selling them. For a premium the new ownership, group 1559 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.199 has Expressed, according to pablo that they're interested in developing 1560 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.159 young players and keeping him here to. Build a team 1561 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.079 can you shed a little light on what would be 1562 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:36.199 a very New Mindset. 1563 01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:40.079 For. RAYEL slake yeah i would FIRST say that i 1564 01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.439 listened to the Interview, last WEEK spence and i would 1565 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:46.359 Say that that pablo was probably a little extreme in 1566 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:50.720 his take of the messaging that we are Receiving because 1567 01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:52.640 And i'm sure kurt probably already did, this with you 1568 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.720 because it's never going to be. AN absolute, right i 1569 01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:58.199 mean we can't make promises and say that we're never going. 1570 01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:00.159 To do this we're going to keep these players is 1571 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.239 because ultimately we have to make the best decision. For 1572 01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:05.720 THE team what i would SAY is that i think 1573 01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:10.279 the new group of ownered majority ownership is a little 1574 01:18:10.319 --> 01:18:14.319 bit more interested in this idea of consistency and of 1575 01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:19.520 keeping keeping players that are really, important to us putting 1576 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:23.039 a higher premium on them. Than perhaps before, and so 1577 01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:24.840 now if you would just, look at it if you 1578 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:26.479 want to look at it just from a, Purely financial 1579 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:30.960 perspective diego's value to us may be higher than we 1580 01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:35.399 are willing. To sell for and part of that value 1581 01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:38.960 is not Just based, upon diego's abilities but based upon 1582 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:42.479 our longer term view of how we are going to 1583 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.399 have a. Chance, to, win. 1584 01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.239 Okay yeah. That makes sense and, first of all thank. 1585 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.920 YOU for listening i know you're. A huge fan. Appreciate the, 1586 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.560 YEARS and LOOK i mean i don't want to ask you, 1587 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.000 for A number because i don't know that a number exists, 1588 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.479 where you're, like all right if we surpass, this many 1589 01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:05.680 million then we. Make the decision but let's dig into 1590 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.199 the nuts and bolts of what a decision. Like that 1591 01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:11.359 entails because the fact of, the matter, is right now 1592 01:19:11.439 --> 01:19:13.920 when you look at the production, Of the club diego 1593 01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.520 with eight goals, and three assists and then there are 1594 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:19.439 five players, with a GOAL and then i have as 1595 01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.039 many goals as the third place goal scorer. On, your 1596 01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:27.119 Roster okay so diego is, carrying a, massive massive load 1597 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:31.479 and it's tough to imagine even though the start has 1598 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.239 been hard and the points have been tough, to come by, 1599 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:37.520 without his contributions it's tough to imagine where you. Guys 1600 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.079 would be but at, the same time, to your point 1601 01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:43.239 you know there is a certain threshold that would be 1602 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.560 met that would make this decision very hard to. Say 1603 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.560 no to so what goes into your decision making process 1604 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.279 is to whether or not you hold on to them 1605 01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:52.880 or you move. 1606 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:53.479 Off, OF them. 1607 01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.000 Well i think you START with what, i just described, 1608 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:02.399 which is essentially you know what is the value For Us, 1609 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:05.600 of diego luna and you don't just, consider right now 1610 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:07.880 you have to. Consider replacement value you have to consider 1611 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:13.920 the relative franchise value that could be. Going up significantly 1612 01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:18.640 if we win something or if we're consistently, competing for 1613 01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:22.000 championships the value of the franchise. Goes way up so 1614 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:22.359 it's just. 1615 01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:22.920 It's a big. 1616 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.119 Math math problem but then also let's not forget that 1617 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.479 there's a, player, involved here right and this is oftentimes, 1618 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:36.199 where most people, including even us. Tend to forget, but 1619 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.760 You know what diego wants is ultimately going to be, 1620 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.520 important as well because he's if, he ends, up you 1621 01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:46.520 know we if, we let's, stay for instance we want to, Keep, 1622 01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.199 him forever well he that's not. In his plans he 1623 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:53.880 at some point wants, to be calm an internationally. Elite, 1624 01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.439 level player well then we have to consider. That as 1625 01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.239 well so there's just a lot of things that go. 1626 01:20:58.319 --> 01:20:59.119 Into the decision it's. 1627 01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:02.000 It's not simple would be interested to follow up with 1628 01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.279 the thought of where his head is at because he 1629 01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:08.479 seems like a. Really nice kid he seems like a 1630 01:21:09.039 --> 01:21:14.399 Player that appreciates pablo and. Appreciates the club, There, are 1631 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:18.319 Moments jay, if I'm honest where i'm watching games and 1632 01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:21.479 he appears to be frustrated that he is not receiving 1633 01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:22.640 the help. 1634 01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:25.600 Around him that. He needs it where? Is his head 1635 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:26.560 where is his head? 1636 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:29.279 Out right now do you sense any frustration from him 1637 01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:31.600 because he's, been so bright but you guys. Aren't winning 1638 01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:34.479 games do you sense that he is ten toes, on 1639 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.039 the ground, as they say and he wants? To be 1640 01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:38.560 here where can you shed some Light on where diego's 1641 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:38.960 head might be? 1642 01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:40.920 AT right NOW i. 1643 01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:44.239 Would i would be remiss probably to try to try 1644 01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.960 to interpret all. OF that spense i can only tell 1645 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.359 you the narrow part of THE answer that i could 1646 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:51.880 give YOU is That i think diego does a really 1647 01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:54.399 really good job of focusing on what's exactly in front 1648 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:57.159 of him and allowing the rest to kind of. Play 1649 01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:59.880 itself OUT and so i think what's exactly In front 1650 01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:03.399 of diego is, a game tonight but he's very focused 1651 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.399 on and will give his maximum effort A, game on 1652 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:07.920 saturday which he will, do the same and then this 1653 01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.840 opportunity has with, The national TEAM and so i would 1654 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:12.840 say his head is very focused on on what's in 1655 01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:14.399 front of him and where it, needs to be which 1656 01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.159 is just focus on his performance and let. The rest 1657 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:20.199 go the only other longer TERM perspective that i would 1658 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.640 guess that would be he wants to be Included In that, 1659 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:27.520 world cup roster which is only, a year away and 1660 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:31.880 so he needs to probably, navigate how best how best 1661 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:35.840 to keep the attention of the coaching staff from that and, 1662 01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:39.000 so you know would YOU would WOULD i If, I 1663 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:41.640 was diego i would be weighing that up pretty severely 1664 01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:45.800 about making sure That that that i'm playing on, a 1665 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.920 weekly basis because this coaching staff has made no bones 1666 01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:53.439 about it that you the players that that will be 1667 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.600 considered and selected for the national team need to be 1668 01:22:56.680 --> 01:23:00.000 playing for their. Team every week do you have an opinion. 1669 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.760 On whether or not it is better or worse TO 1670 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.199 be an mls player trying To Make this? World cup 1671 01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.920 roster can you be properly prepared to play at the 1672 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.760 highest level in the WORLD playing in mls or like 1673 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:14.319 a lot of these other players that ARE with the, 1674 01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:17.399 us national team do you think it's preferable preferable to 1675 01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:18.079 be overseas in. 1676 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.079 A bigger league i think. 1677 01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:23.840 Every player has. A different pathway but and let's just. 1678 01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:25.560 Start with this let's START with how i just answered. 1679 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.239 THE last question i think it's very critically important that they, 1680 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:33.600 play every week meaning like a Player goes to europe 1681 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:37.079 to a huge club does never play well in my 1682 01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:40.119 eyes and, In MY opinion and i think it's shown 1683 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:43.560 and borne out by what our national team coach is 1684 01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:47.640 saying right now that that's. Not good enough we need you. 1685 01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:51.239 To BE playing and i think in order to have 1686 01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:53.840 the best chance to succeed, as a player you can't 1687 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:56.279 just be sitting on the bench somewhere and come into 1688 01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:58.319 an international tournament and think that you're going to be. 1689 01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:02.960 At your best. That Doesn't exist so I'M not sure i, 1690 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.239 answer your QUESTION but. Maybe i. Did for me, maybe 1691 01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:10.960 the Level, Whether, It's, England germany belgium ITALY or the 1692 01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:14.159 mls is less critical than just the fact that you're. 1693 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.039 Playing every, week all right let's. 1694 01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:20.079 Move Over here bill simmons has this theory He Calls the. 1695 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:23.640 Patrick ewing theory it is a pro basketball theory based 1696 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.199 on the Nineteen Ninety Nine. New York knicks when, ewing was, 1697 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.880 hurt they somehow some way came together and played better 1698 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:33.359 than anybody thought the group could without, their best player 1699 01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:36.159 and THEY Made. The nba finals what are you hoping 1700 01:24:36.279 --> 01:24:40.760 to see and specific names. If You could as diego 1701 01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.640 departs for at least a month month and a half, 1702 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:45.159 if not more if the team. 1703 01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:46.960 Goes on to perform Well In. 1704 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:51.199 The gold cup who on this roster are you looking, At, 1705 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:54.079 To say, okay diego's gone. It's your time how do 1706 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:55.960 you tread water without by far? 1707 01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:59.680 Your best player, FIRST of all i think the maximum 1708 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:03.039 people gone? Is? One, Month gotcha yeah so there's no 1709 01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:08.720 there's no month and a, half. Categorization there thankfully so 1710 01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:11.800 who do we who do we expect or want? To 1711 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:16.079 step up is the guys that are that have yet 1712 01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:19.399 to really. Get big opportunities we will hope for the Continued. 1713 01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:22.319 Development of gozo we will help Hope that really gotta 1714 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:25.520 reaches a level where he feels comfortable and starts. A 1715 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:28.640 square goal we Will Hope that tyler wolfe's contributions are. 1716 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:32.239 More and better We Will hope locklin brook. Will have 1717 01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:35.239 Opportunity We, have johnny russell who has yet to, really 1718 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:39.079 break in who has shown a history of really good 1719 01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.159 play and mls in the attacking half. Of the field 1720 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.439 we will have another Young player Named, aidan hester khani 1721 01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:49.479 who has done extremely Well, for the monarchs should, get 1722 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:52.800 more opportunity and there's no reason why he can't take 1723 01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:54.920 take advantage of it the Same way that. Gozo has 1724 01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.920 done so the absolutely there are players that will need, 1725 01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.399 to step up and the efforts of the players that 1726 01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.479 are the core of this team will need to step. 1727 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.039 Up as, Well, Last question jay i'll set you. 1728 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:10.159 Loose on, this you know if you take THE pulse 1729 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.039 of rsl, fans right now and if you read some of, 1730 01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:16.720 the media coverage both, locally and nationally there are a 1731 01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:21.079 lot of people pointing fingers as far as the inability 1732 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:23.720 to bring in the reinforcements that you needed to bring 1733 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:27.039 in after letting Go of Chi, cho And crooks And 1734 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.560 andres and anderson and you, know, the list okay and 1735 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.960 last year was record breaking goal scoring and the points 1736 01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:35.279 accumulated in. 1737 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:38.520 A single season what is, fair to, say. 1738 01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:40.760 Once again going back to be trying, to be fair 1739 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.640 as far as what is the inability to find the 1740 01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:47.720 reinforcements to keep up the level that you? Had last 1741 01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.600 year what's fair to say about the club's inability up 1742 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:54.199 to this point to find the proper replacements for the 1743 01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:54.640 players that. 1744 01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:55.159 You let go. 1745 01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:00.359 It's fair to say that we need to take, an 1746 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:05.239 internal view a review of some of these. THINGS and 1747 01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:07.680 processes i think it's fair to say that. 1748 01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:08.439 That we. 1749 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.319 HAVEN'T we haven't i don't think we have operated at 1750 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:16.279 the level that we have. In prior times, when we 1751 01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:19.159 start when you start to add up The, Signings Of, 1752 01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:25.920 Ojeeda Velascio Gomez, chi cho, uh these players you know 1753 01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:30.920 something was different about the process because we haven't knocked 1754 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:32.479 it out of the park in the. Last TWELVE months 1755 01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:35.760 and i think it's it's really quite SIMPLE the way i, 1756 01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:38.960 look at it and perhaps this, is over simplification but 1757 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.119 the beginning half of last year we had. Two difference 1758 01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:46.319 Makers we had chicho And We. Had, andres gomez now 1759 01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.680 of course we had a Third There, in diego luna 1760 01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:53.000 who was. Chipping in, right this season we don't have those. 1761 01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.479 Two difference makers We, just have DIEGO and so i 1762 01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.960 think that we still have the core of a very very. 1763 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:04.079 Very good team we just need those. Two difference makers and, 1764 01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:07.039 PERHAPS you know i know that we missed on one 1765 01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.279 that we thought we had an opportunity to get in 1766 01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:11.479 the winter. Chance for window we, just missed it couldn't. 1767 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:13.920 Get IT done but i think we also need to 1768 01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:17.079 be singing about that secondary. Player As, Well All right 1769 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:17.399 by Guy. 1770 01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:21.439 We'll enjoy, austin behave yourself travel safe and. Good, luck 1771 01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:23.439 tonight okay thank, you very. 1772 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:24.399 Much Appreciate it Jason. 1773 01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.399 CHRIST club director i think that's. 1774 01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:29.000 HIS Current title Rsl, legend Rare al Saw Lake and 1775 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:32.640 Action sight against austin. On the road austin is not, 1776 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:35.800 good this year BUT Neither is rsl austin five six 1777 01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:38.720 and four. Ten, goals scored. Wow that's bad that's the Worst. 1778 01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:42.039 In the west look at that seventeen goals. Allowed minus 1779 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:46.600 seven they are three two and THREE at home rsl 1780 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.399 at this junctures two five and one, Away from home austin, 1781 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.399 ON nineteen points. Rsl on fourteen in case you're, Just, 1782 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.319 tuning in jason with, little breaking news. Diego Excuse me 1783 01:28:56.399 --> 01:29:01.199 diogo gonsalez has been left home or the match tonight 1784 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:05.119 in The match on saturday due. To disciplinary reasons so 1785 01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:07.359 we'll see if can. Get more information. Jay stopspot today 1786 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:10.239 courtesy of My Friends, at courtland roofing reroofing and roof 1787 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:13.039 repair experts with over twenty, years of experience family, owned 1788 01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:16.359 And Operated Called courtland roofing today to get free rain 1789 01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:19.119 gutters with. Any roof replacement great time because you save a. 1790 01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.359 Grip of money give them a call at eight oh 1791 01:29:21.439 --> 01:29:23.800 one six one five five five six zero eight oh 1792 01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:26.920 one six one five five five six zero eight oh 1793 01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:30.079 one six one five five, five six zero or online 1794 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:34.000 at courtland Roofing Dot com chris camarani's. Live in, Studio, 1795 01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:38.520 ALL right christopher i need. Your IMMEDIATE reaction uh rsl has. 1796 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:42.119 One designated player His. Name is diogo uh is my 1797 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:42.680 dog about. 1798 01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:46.359 To hump you he's currently, Chasing, his tail okay but 1799 01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:47.039 he's eyeing. 1800 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:47.960 My right leg just. 1801 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:49.720 Let him know just tell him to sit if, you 1802 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:52.520 want to if you Want to witness ck trying to 1803 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:53.359 avoid being humped. 1804 01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:53.920 By my dog. 1805 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:56.439 It's on YouTube duke is a little bit, of a 1806 01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:58.319 humper so we're trying to work with. 1807 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:00.079 Him on, That So so. 1808 01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:04.800 Diogo gonsolve is the only designated player. On RSL's roster 1809 01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.000 has been left home for this two game road trip due. 1810 01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.279 To disciplinary reasons that's. 1811 01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:14.279 All we know we just found. Out last segment what? 1812 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:15.319 Are your thoughts. 1813 01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:20.479 It makes Me Think that and I'm not accusing rsel 1814 01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:26.119 of fabricating any sort, of injury report but the heel 1815 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:31.840 injury the Day. Before last saturday correct the timing is kind, 1816 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:41.520 of in retrospect maybe a. Little, too striking listen you're 1817 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.439 not going to GET. More from, rsl i'm Like good 1818 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:46.520 for jason, for telling you and good that, it's out 1819 01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:50.119 there because now, there's you know it's a club mandated 1820 01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:57.079 statement from a. Club mandated employee but this to me 1821 01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.720 is a potential, pathway way down. 1822 01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:05.439 No longer. BEING oursl's numbers i would. Agree with that. 1823 01:31:07.439 --> 01:31:10.960 Sometimes signings, don't work out and sometimes high profile signings, 1824 01:31:11.159 --> 01:31:15.359 don't Work out and diogo isn't exactly the type of 1825 01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:21.000 high profile signing that's worth potential headaches that apparently is 1826 01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:24.880 being given. AT the moment i think he has one, 1827 01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.439 goal this year don't remember how many he, had last year. 1828 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:30.399 One or, two so like. 1829 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:36.079 Sometimes you have to call a, spade a spade and 1830 01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:39.760 with the upcomer upcoming, sever transfer windos sometimes you might 1831 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:42.800 be better for you, to shake, hands give bones dap 1832 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:43.560 each other up and. 1833 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.600 SAY good luck i. 1834 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.840 Could be wrong maybe this is, a you know a 1835 01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:51.560 step in A direction where diogo and the coaching staff 1836 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.239 and the front office have stuff. To settle through but 1837 01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.359 if you were asking me to read the tea Leaves 1838 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:02.159 out in sandycross From. THE old mayan i would say 1839 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.039 it seems like we are trending in. That potential direction 1840 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:06.439 did they? 1841 01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:09.039 Close the mine oh a. Long time ago food was. 1842 01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:10.880 Never very good food. Was never good but the guys 1843 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:12.359 dove off. Off the rocks the. 1844 01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.920 Divers were impressive that burritos Just WERE ass SO i 1845 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:19.359 guess i shouldn't be surprised that. They closed, It All 1846 01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:23.159 Right so diego luna is about to LEAVE for the 1847 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:25.840 us men's national team to Play In. The gold cup 1848 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:29.079 he will, be playing tonight he'll Be playing On Saturday. 1849 01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:32.520 In los angeles. Then he's gone pablo on the, SHOW 1850 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.159 last week i know you heard it because you listen. 1851 01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:37.279 All of it he dropped a bit of a bomb 1852 01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:39.920 and he said he has been informed by ownership that 1853 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:44.880 they're no longer interested in the develop young. Players sell 1854 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:47.600 them he's been told that if we develop a young 1855 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:49.399 player that's good, for the group they want the player. 1856 01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:52.840 To stay here DOES that mean rsl will never sell? Another, 1857 01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:55.119 player again no. It does not if Some Team in 1858 01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:59.479 La liga called kurt tomorrow and said Forty, mil for, 1859 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:02.399 diego YOU know like, i understand that it doesn't mean 1860 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:02.840 they're never going. 1861 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.239 To sell players but what do you Make. 1862 01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:08.479 Of what pablo in the front office have expressed that 1863 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.039 maybe this new ownership group is not interested in the 1864 01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:12.600 mindset that previous ownership. 1865 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:14.760 Groups, HAVE had well i think we need to challenge 1866 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:19.119 the ethos that this franchise is at the level of 1867 01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:24.199 some other. Franchises and. Mls they're Not they sold andriscomes 1868 01:33:24.279 --> 01:33:26.880 last year And They. Sold fidel barajas, other than that 1869 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:32.800 there haven't been bank breaking sales really ever that our 1870 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:34.960 sales front office had a lot to do in the last, 1871 01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:38.800 twenty four months both bringing in players, and selling players 1872 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:41.720 but before that there wasn't that much going on from, 1873 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:45.600 a you know development and sell. Point of view they've 1874 01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:48.960 developed players that have come to, the first, team You 1875 01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:56.279 Know Justin, Glad Aaron, herrera body, hidalgo mainly defenders but 1876 01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:59.479 this is not. LIKE they, are i mean there are 1877 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:03.279 other clubs in this league that have signed players or 1878 01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:06.239 developed them from an academy perspective and sold them for a. 1879 01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:10.800 Lot Of, Money Columbus, Crew Philadelphia, union la galaxy so on. 1880 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:15.159 And So forth so i'm not Necessarily Surprised because diego 1881 01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:17.319 luna is a type of player that you currently can't, 1882 01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:19.840 afford to lose because If You, lose diego luna you lose. 1883 01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:23.239 The fan, base and yes if there is a forty 1884 01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:25.920 million dollar, tag that comes. YES you sell i think fans. 1885 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:29.279 Would understand that but it's Not Going to diego luna 1886 01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:33.000 isn't going to be sold For. MORE than andreskillmas i don't. 1887 01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.840 Think so interesting his player. Profile is different andris is, 1888 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:41.159 a true, burner pure winger like one of the fastest dudes. 1889 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.920 In the league when, he was here like Was a 1890 01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:47.560 fringe colombia. National Team player now diego has a chance 1891 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:49.520 to Play At the world CUP for the US when 1892 01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:51.439 the us is pretty stacked from an attacking. 1893 01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:52.239 Point of view but he plays. 1894 01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:55.159 A different position his style of play is a, little 1895 01:34:55.199 --> 01:34:58.680 more unique body types a. Little more unique he's not 1896 01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:01.760 exactly a guy that now he, has foot skills but 1897 01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:03.239 he's not the type of guy that's going to be 1898 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:06.159 able to run away from a. Lot of People but 1899 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.960 if diego ends this year, with twenty goals maybe we're having. 1900 01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.319 A different conversation i just, Don't SEE it and i 1901 01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:16.039 think it makes Sense from the millers' Perspective that if 1902 01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:20.239 diego continues to play at This, level and go like on. 1903 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.960 An upward trajectory you make him a designated player because 1904 01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:25.920 he's proven that he, can do it and you need somebody, 1905 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:27.079 to build around and they just don't. 1906 01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:30.079 Have anybody else feels like he's already on the level 1907 01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:32.520 OF what a, dp, SHOULD be, right i mean? Isn't, 1908 01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.680 that fair yeah he's. AT that level. 1909 01:35:37.159 --> 01:35:41.319 I would imagine that from a locker room perspective's he's, 1910 01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:45.399 not the captain but he's, a you know a guy that. 1911 01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:48.920 People rally around he's an easy guy. To rally around 1912 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.840 people like, playing with him people like. Watching Him play 1913 01:35:53.319 --> 01:35:56.239 mauricio pochettino's giving him a chance where the previous, staff 1914 01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:59.319 did not and for that is always going to be 1915 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.720 one of the more idiotic type of moves that will 1916 01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:07.359 never understand why he Wasn't. Even in, paris but yeah 1917 01:36:07.439 --> 01:36:09.640 he's he's been playing like a designated player and he's 1918 01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:12.239 been the only guy that's been doing that since they 1919 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:13.520 jettisoned The likes Of. 1920 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:17.000 Chichio and andres so where do You like if diego 1921 01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:20.319 develops fully and meets and? Meets the ceiling, because your 1922 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:21.159 point are? 1923 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:23.720 We DOING comps? Doing? TJ comps no i actually. 1924 01:36:23.479 --> 01:36:24.920 Want to know what sort of level you think he, 1925 01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:26.640 can play at because he's never going to. Be a 1926 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:29.159 burner he, Just never never he's never going to. Be 1927 01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:33.479 A burner the javier comps feel right to me because, 1928 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:36.520 they're Really similar and javier was a guy that was 1929 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:38.319 able to make a difference with his skill but was. 1930 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:42.199 Never a burner Could take a javier probably better with Free. 1931 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:46.520 Kicks than diego xavier hit some. Incredible free Kicks so 1932 01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.680 if diego, has the desire, and he does he actually 1933 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:50.159 has set it. 1934 01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:52.520 On this show his goal is To be. A european player? 1935 01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:57.439 Where what league if he maximizes who you think, he 1936 01:36:57.520 --> 01:36:59.079 can be what league do you think he could? 1937 01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:03.560 He COULD play and i think he could easily transition 1938 01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:08.039 to one of the Top, clubs in mexico which is, 1939 01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:12.119 saying a lot, because you Know top tier mexican club teams. 1940 01:37:12.159 --> 01:37:14.560 Are very good if, YOU wanted to i could see 1941 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:17.920 him Going down To. Argentina, or brazil now granted those 1942 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:20.439 have really, good club teams but not at The. Level 1943 01:37:20.479 --> 01:37:27.840 of europe europe's tough because mainly every single league is LIKE, prioritizes, the, 1944 01:37:27.960 --> 01:37:31.920 nfl bigger, faster stronger model like you want dudes who can, 1945 01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:35.600 run really fast who can, jump really high who can run, 1946 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:38.399 away from you and have a crazy amount of talent. 1947 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:42.279 On the ball diego's, a little undersized, AND you know 1948 01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:44.279 i know in soccer we're not talking about guys that 1949 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:47.119 need to be six, two sixty three especially. In That 1950 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.560 Position like liono messi is the greatest player of all 1951 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:51.680 time and, he's, five eight RIGHT which is I think. 1952 01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.359 What diego is but he'd have to go into. The 1953 01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:57.920 right system could see him easily starring in a League, 1954 01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:04.840 LIKE the netherlands i think going To, Top, Flight, england 1955 01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:09.720 spain italy these are, all pretty. Tough, TOUGH asks france 1956 01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:13.600 i think are all. Pretty TOUGH asks but I think 1957 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.079 for diego it's gonna, come, down to like does he 1958 01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:18.479 if he wants To, go to europe does he want to, 1959 01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:22.199 be you know a potential first team player or a 1960 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:25.880 rotational player on A, team like psv or you know 1961 01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:29.960 a team that's one of the best teams in Let's, 1962 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.279 say the netherlands or you know more Obscure leagues like 1963 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:35.199 belgium where you can get a Sniff Of, the champions 1964 01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:38.039 league or does it make sense to make a lot 1965 01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:42.720 MORE money in, mls Play often as jason was saying, 1966 01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:46.720 the previous hit like a lot of these guys get 1967 01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:49.840 tantalized with the prospect Of going to europe. For obvious 1968 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:51.439 reasons it's where you want to go if you. Have 1969 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:55.319 a chance but it is so, CUTTHROAT and, listen, i 1970 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:57.800 mean like look at look at the stats around andrascoms 1971 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:01.119 like he is a eighty to eighty fifth minutes sub 1972 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:04.399 on the middle of the Table, team in france whereas 1973 01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:06.239 here he was one of the best players. In the 1974 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.960 league so the step up is. Pretty Pretty hefty but 1975 01:39:11.479 --> 01:39:15.880 diego could, potentially face, that, You KNOW crossroads BUT i 1976 01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:17.560 think rsl will make it hard for him to. 1977 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:19.239 Want to leave one, MORE thing here. 1978 01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.840 I don't do, radio LIKE this and i have an 1979 01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:27.560 understanding of how organizations work and how roster construction works. 1980 01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:32.119 In PRO sports so i feel like it's a simp 1981 01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:35.560 who We, blame, IN spence well i feel like it's. 1982 01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:38.720 A simp thing to do to talk about someone has 1983 01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:42.079 to be blamed because it's more. Complicated than that this 1984 01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:46.079 is not a linear. Finger pointing situation it's more. Complicated 1985 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:49.319 than that the ownership transition is, a real thing and 1986 01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:51.479 WITH the way mls is set up with. A single 1987 01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:55.199 entity it's also misguided to add up THE dollars that 1988 01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:58.239 rsl received in exchange for players they jettison and then 1989 01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:01.119 draw a straight line to say invest that amount. Into 1990 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:04.800 more players it's also very fair to say there has 1991 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:08.720 been a failure on some level to at least bring 1992 01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:14.159 in talent and economic investment to continue the momentum you 1993 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:16.399 build last year for a team that scored more goals 1994 01:40:16.439 --> 01:40:18.399 in ANY team in rsl history and had more points 1995 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:22.119 than ANY team, In, rsl history obviously the playoff failure is. 1996 01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:26.680 What it is so instead of Saying Is? It dave 1997 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:28.039 Blitzer Is, it kurt schmidt. 1998 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.119 It's everyone's fault what's fair to say if you win, 1999 01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:33.560 as a team you lose. As a team starting from 2000 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:36.960 the players, to the staff to the front office, to 2001 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:41.399 the ownership everything. Is tied together it is a organic 2002 01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:48.399 mass that. Moves, intertwined together listen they simply have missed 2003 01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:50.640 on a, lot of players and they've missed on a 2004 01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.800 lot of players while working with, a tight budget and 2005 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.760 that's always going. To be hard you want. TO miss 2006 01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:01.399 big rsl. Hasn't missed big, they've made small Miss small with, 2007 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:05.800 DIOGO miss small, I think, YOU i mean i don't 2008 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:07.479 want to say, it's a miss but A Guy Like 2009 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:11.479 don mark. Zuke is not androscomas. Like these are these 2010 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:16.800 were moves that were broadcast, as potential replacements, not band 2011 01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:19.399 aids which at the time they were and. They still 2012 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:22.319 are they're. Still, band aids eventually you're gonna have to 2013 01:41:22.359 --> 01:41:24.640 rip the. Band AID off and i don't know how 2014 01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:29.239 RSL's roster it's going to be, constructed going forward Specifically 2015 01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:34.079 with the, millers in charge but it would behoove them, 2016 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.600 to spend money and it would behove them to spend 2017 01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:39.720 more than a three million dollar transfer on a number 2018 01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:43.680 ten because three million dollar number ten's don't. Really exist 2019 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.079 anymore like you spend three million dollars on a guy 2020 01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:50.479 who is a rotational player in the middle of the 2021 01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:53.000 Field with Like Brian. O'HADEN amica annelly i know, that 2022 01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:56.520 sounds crazy but you can't really ball on a budget 2023 01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:01.479 anymore that you can't you can't HELP and and i 2024 01:42:01.640 --> 01:42:05.800 know fans will always want to support, and show out 2025 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:08.560 but sooner or later there's going to be a straw 2026 01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:11.319 that breaks. The camels back and like WE'VE talked about. 2027 01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.880 Rsl Is foundering THE royals are i think the WORST. 2028 01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:20.600 Team in nwsl they have, some decent players but just pay, 2029 01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:22.800 for good players bring, in good players and everything else. 2030 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:25.720 Will handle itself i've, been saying this like ninety percent 2031 01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.800 of what fans want to see is, just good players either. 2032 01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.640 In person or. On the, two that's it, one hundred 2033 01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:32.479 percent and it is the only way. To do this 2034 01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:32.960 you have. 2035 01:42:33.079 --> 01:42:36.039 To write checks there has to be economic investment into the, 2036 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:38.680 talent under roster which leads us to. The final thing 2037 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:40.439 then we'll catch a break and we'll do some college 2038 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:46.560 football coming. Up next summer transfer window Will. OPEN in july, 2039 01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:53.439 i got it and there are thirteen matches starting with 2040 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.960 the first week of. The window opening if they, act 2041 01:42:57.399 --> 01:43:00.680 that week that gives. Them thirteen matches if they wait 2042 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:02.319 until the end, of THE window and i think it. 2043 01:43:02.359 --> 01:43:06.600 Gives them, eight so look. Here's my thing. Let's hear 2044 01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:08.880 it the primary window, came and went and. 2045 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:11.199 You blew it you, just blew it and you tried 2046 01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:13.680 to save it with a Bench Player from sporting casey 2047 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:14.800 and a dude that played Against. 2048 01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:15.840 Like dun, seth. 2049 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:20.119 You know you tried to save it and, Our Guy, 2050 01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:25.479 big willie, goles my guy, No looking great johnny's played once. 2051 01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:29.239 For fifteen minutes jason just basically said like he's not close, 2052 01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:30.000 to soccer shape. 2053 01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:31.560 Which is understandable he wasn't with a club. 2054 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.079 For seven months so because you blew it during the, 2055 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:39.119 primary transfer window you should have targets ready that as 2056 01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:41.119 soon as you can when, that window opens. 2057 01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:43.720 Get it done don't wait for the, window to close 2058 01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:44.079 and do it. 2059 01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:48.720 The day Before as of jason's, INTERVIEW last segment I, 2060 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:51.760 Now have Pablo kurt and jason on the record saying. 2061 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:55.640 The same thing, their belief is or what they're saying. 2062 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:59.920 Out loud publicly is there two dynamic attacking players away 2063 01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:01.000 from being among the BEST. 2064 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:03.520 TEAMS in mls i have no idea if. That's the 2065 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:05.479 case In, addition, to, diego. 2066 01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:10.399 Yes okay correct so if, that's the case two, dynamic 2067 01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:13.880 attacking players summer transfer window and don't make it two 2068 01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:16.840 million Dollar guys like go, make a splash get two 2069 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.119 seven eight million. Dollar attacking players is that enough to salvage? 2070 01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:22.199 Something, this year. 2071 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:25.560 NO it's not i think, the season's lost especially Considering 2072 01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:30.840 you're losing diego for. Potentially two, months you know let's 2073 01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:33.199 let's hope he stays healthy and he balls with the 2074 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:37.279 national team and continues to impress. That COACHING staff, but 2075 01:44:37.920 --> 01:44:41.560 i mean in what world has THIS iteration of rsl 2076 01:44:41.680 --> 01:44:45.279 convinced convinced anybody, that they, can you know tread water 2077 01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:47.479 on Their Own. WITHOUT diego, luna i mean. It's just 2078 01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:52.560 there you watch them play and they have like two. 2079 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:58.920 Basic attacking maneuvers they will overload the right side or they, 2080 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:02.079 will get, it get it get it to the Left Foot, 2081 01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:03.680 of alex catronis who will send it. 2082 01:45:03.760 --> 01:45:07.119 Across To nobody and alex has potential. To, serve balls yes. 2083 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:10.640 Yeah it does but, for whatever reason there, is you 2084 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:16.079 know nobody, crashing the box no. Late runners there they 2085 01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:21.479 lack for any. Sort OF idea but i THINK they're 2086 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:23.840 just i think they. KNOW they're LIMITED i think i 2087 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.760 think this is a club that understands its limitations and 2088 01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:29.560 they're learning them. In Real time but i'm. WITH you 2089 01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:34.760 wholeheartedly i think If if the millers really want to 2090 01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:38.119 show the fan base that, they, MEAN business like i 2091 01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:40.399 think you need to be willing to spend, not this 2092 01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:42.720 window because this window is kind of tough because you're 2093 01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:46.439 not going to potentially get, your exact targets but YOU still. 2094 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:48.960 CAN i, think i think, in my opinion in the next, 2095 01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:52.479 two transfer windows they need to be willing to spend 2096 01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:54.159 anywhere from twelve to eighteen million. 2097 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:57.319 DOLLARS on, Players i agree and just real quick to 2098 01:45:57.399 --> 01:45:58.880 your point about whether or not they can do. IT 2099 01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:02.359 this window i don't pretend to know my elbow for 2100 01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:05.520 my rear end about primary, transfer summer, window who's. 2101 01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:07.840 Available who's not but if you go, off of, past 2102 01:46:08.920 --> 01:46:09.079 you know. 2103 01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:13.479 Just player signings last year with a, primary transfer window they, 2104 01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:15.840 didn't do much and it was the summer transfer window 2105 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:18.359 where They. Bring in dom They, sold andre To, they 2106 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:21.960 sold andres so They, Bring in Diogo. Dom and, Lachland 2107 01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:24.760 so look i'm not saying high five for bringing in 2108 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:26.840 players that. Aren't very good but they did make more 2109 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:28.960 signings in the summer last year than they did in the. 2110 01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:30.000 Primary last year. 2111 01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:32.680 They, incorrect they did and it seems like last year 2112 01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:35.279 they had their ducks in a row in terms of 2113 01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:39.880 understanding that a, potentially big offer one that they couldn't 2114 01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:42.279 turn down Was, coming for andres, which it did and 2115 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:43.279 then they went out. 2116 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:48.279 And Signed, Players but diogo lachlan and. 2117 01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:51.640 Dom probably cost a total of like four point five 2118 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:55.159 million dollars, between three, players five million which is not 2119 01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:55.439 going to. 2120 01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:57.520 Get it done when did They? 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Camaradie c k did 2156 01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:25.159 anyone Ever? 2157 01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:29.600 CALL you christopher i mean that's, your, Proper, name correct 2158 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:30.359 yeah it's on my birth. 2159 01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:37.840 Certificate, sometime parents no it's It's always been CHRIS. 2160 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:41.560 Or c, k, it's weird OKAY but weirdly i choose 2161 01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:42.520 To go by christopher. 2162 01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:45.920 On, MY byline yeah, I, saw THAT yeah and i 2163 01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:47.840 think AT one point i tried to TAKE. Credit for 2164 01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:51.279 k but did you say who initially came UP? 2165 01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:53.359 With the k that's been GOING on since i was 2166 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:56.239 ten YEARS old because i used to think it Was 2167 01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:57.039 Cool that calvin. 2168 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.800 Klein had jeans it is. Kind of cool it's kind 2169 01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:01.399 of cool back to. The future style i'm not Going 2170 01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:04.640 To complain alvin kleins back. In the Day SHOUT. 2171 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:04.800 Out. 2172 01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:08.039 Michael j, Fox, all right chris you, Were in midtown 2173 01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:11.840 manhattan not too long Ago For The Athletic College. Football 2174 01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:15.880 annual meeting any grand takeaways you'd like to SHARE with, our, 2175 01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:18.760 i mean look the landscape at college football right. NOW is, 2176 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:21.479 WILD i mean cbs is REPORTING that the sec IS 2177 01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:24.720 leaving the ncaa in. Twenty twenty nine you can't, Just 2178 01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:26.279 do that so there are a lot of things that have, 2179 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:30.159 To take place conversations ABOUT the new cfp format where 2180 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.359 IT'S clearly the Sec and the big ten calling, all 2181 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:33.840 the shots and you can complain about it. 2182 01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:35.600 All you want that's kind of the landscape. 2183 01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:38.960 Of the thing so what were some of the college 2184 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.600 football stories topics fantied about by some of the heaviest 2185 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:44.199 hitters in college football media. 2186 01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:49.520 Exactly that it's beyond guard be prepared for rampant. Change 2187 01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:54.039 once again, and ironically enough just within the last Six 2188 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:57.840 days since, i've BEEN home the sec meetings have Taken 2189 01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:01.760 Place in greg sankie and folks are unhappy with the 2190 01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:04.840 state of, college athletics apparently and they can throw their 2191 01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:07.399 weight around because they want to and. Because, they can 2192 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:12.520 also the seeding is OFFICIALLY changed that i think that 2193 01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:15.479 happened like TWO days after, i GOT home which i 2194 01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:19.560 think is ultimately the right decision to do away with, 2195 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:26.159 those you know. Bloated HIGHER seeds but I think what 2196 01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:28.600 i would say would be that you just have to 2197 01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:34.119 be prepared for a tremendous amount of change and be 2198 01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.560 prepared to ride the coattails of the. Powers that be 2199 01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:41.520 and those powers that be are the two heavy hitters, 2200 01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:43.039 that YOU mentioned the Sec And. 2201 01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:47.800 The big, ten and listen things changed. 2202 01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:50.359 ALL the, time i mean once upon a time people 2203 01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:52.399 were MAD that the nba had a best of five 2204 01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:54.880 series in, the FIRST round and i know it's hard 2205 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.119 to compare that to the amount of teams in the, 2206 01:50:57.279 --> 01:51:01.560 college football playoffs, but. Things Change Man major league baseball 2207 01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:04.000 USED to have I think one wildcard team and. 2208 01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:04.359 That was. 2209 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:07.359 It things changed everything is not going to be as, 2210 01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:09.439 it ALWAYS was and i think that's. A good, thing 2211 01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:12.479 i mean thank god we're no longer dealing with that 2212 01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:17.239 computer system KNOWN. As THE bcs like i think a 2213 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:20.479 lot of people, are just operating either, publicly or privately 2214 01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:21.399 in fear that they're. 2215 01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:23.000 Going to be left behind when. 2216 01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:26.479 The DUST settles but, I don't personally i don't think 2217 01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:28.960 it's going to get to. That level now it can 2218 01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:32.279 now if CBS's report is CORRECT that the sec is 2219 01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:35.039 going to go rogue and call its own shots, IN 2220 01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:38.159 four years i guess we'll have to tackle that beast 2221 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:41.199 when they when they. Cross THAT bridge but i just 2222 01:51:41.279 --> 01:51:44.800 think it makes sense for everybody to remain in lockstep 2223 01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:45.720 because that's where all. 2224 01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:46.960 The Money Is, so. 2225 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:50.760 Ross dellinger who does a really Good, job for Yahoo 2226 01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:54.199 And also matt brown front Of The, SHOW extra points 2227 01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:57.039 i kind of read what those two write and followed 2228 01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:58.800 them as. A north star when it comes to some 2229 01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:05.159 of the, Legislation in place tennessee passed a law without, 2230 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:08.000 really telling everybody like any school in our state does 2231 01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:11.159 not have to Adhere to the house vncaa settlement guidelines, 2232 01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:15.119 like you're exempt AND then The p four conferences drafted a, contract, 2233 01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:17.800 that said no actually you're not allowed to follow your 2234 01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:19.359 state law if you want to be part of. Our 2235 01:52:19.439 --> 01:52:23.000 Launch Table The trump white house came up With A 2236 01:52:23.159 --> 01:52:25.600 college football commission that they were going. To Solve Everything 2237 01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:27.640 the white, house was like you're. Not doing that so now, 2238 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:30.359 that's on pause kind of, Like the tariffs like here. Are, the, 2239 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:31.760 tariffs wait no the tariffs. 2240 01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:33.159 Are, not that no. They are that now we're going to. 2241 01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:35.000 Roll This back nick saban was supposed to be the, 2242 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:36.720 face of it and right even, HE was like i 2243 01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:37.600 don't know what, you're talking. 2244 01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:41.399 About right exactly so there was a conversation going On 2245 01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:43.359 That the white house was going. To get involved now 2246 01:52:43.479 --> 01:52:46.479 that's not happening because that's kind of the deal. Walking 2247 01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:51.800 everything back but when it COMES to The p four 2248 01:52:52.119 --> 01:52:56.560 conferences and their desire to make sure that all of 2249 01:52:56.640 --> 01:53:00.760 their member institutions do Follow WHATEVER the house, vnca settlement 2250 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:04.600 says versus the state passing laws saying that you do 2251 01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:08.600 not have, to do that how do we traverse out? Like, who's, 2252 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:13.760 right like Ultimately, if you're vanderbilt If you're The, university 2253 01:53:13.800 --> 01:53:16.279 of tennessee and you have legislation in place from your 2254 01:53:16.319 --> 01:53:18.199 state leaders saying you don't have to follow. Any of 2255 01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:21.119 that but Then there's the peak four conferences drafting the, 2256 01:53:21.159 --> 01:53:22.640 contract to say if you want to be, part of 2257 01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:23.600 us you have to sign. 2258 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:24.159 This and you do have. 2259 01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:27.239 To follow it all of this feels like we're just 2260 01:53:27.359 --> 01:53:30.000 in for more legislation and we're in for, more legal 2261 01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:32.199 battles and the lawyers are the ones that ultimately are 2262 01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:32.439 going to. 2263 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:34.880 Be, The winners correct you're going to be dealing with 2264 01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:39.399 things that are pseudo passed tied, up in, court you 2265 01:53:39.479 --> 01:53:45.920 know file motions and junctions and all of these, almost 2266 01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:51.239 went there all of these court legal mumbo jumbo jargons 2267 01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:54.359 that everyone has had to either relearn or learn for the. 2268 01:53:54.439 --> 01:53:58.039 First time again there, WILL be, loopholes i mean. Don't, 2269 01:53:58.079 --> 01:54:02.239 forget that like just As Recently, as march madness The 2270 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:06.439 State of west virginia was threatening to was threatening TO 2271 01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:10.760 Sue THE nc Double A because west virginia was left 2272 01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:13.960 OUT Of THE nc. Double, A tournament like i think 2273 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:15.960 a lot of. IT is grandstanding i think a lot 2274 01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:21.760 of it is is going to be filled with ways 2275 01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:27.319 around these motions and these bylaws, AND these laws i 2276 01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:31.319 think ultimately it will boil down to games. WON'T be 2277 01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:35.119 disrupted i don't think roster construction will be altered all 2278 01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:40.880 that significantly until. That day, comes you Know maybe Maybe 2279 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:44.359 tennessee and vandy do get a. LEG up significantly i 2280 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.199 don't necessarily see that, being THE case because I think 2281 01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:49.760 it's i think at the end, of the day you're 2282 01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:55.640 likely to be more emboldened to side with your governing 2283 01:54:56.239 --> 01:54:59.359 conference body as opposed to some state legislators that you. 2284 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:02.560 Don't really know but it. Could be wrong, so. 2285 01:55:04.520 --> 01:55:07.640 It is we've approached it's silly season, without a doubt, 2286 01:55:07.720 --> 01:55:09.600 and everybody is, in my opinion is. 2287 01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:12.640 Kind, of bloviating Well and Also chris where i've, kind of, 2288 01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.039 LANDED and look i don't know this, To be true 2289 01:55:15.600 --> 01:55:18.600 and maybe we, Need congressional involvement maybe we need the 2290 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:21.119 highest office of the land to try to. Get INVOLVED 2291 01:55:21.119 --> 01:55:24.000 here and i guess that was the idea. BEFORE everybody 2292 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:27.199 Else I, guess Cody campbell the, texas tech booster was 2293 01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:31.279 involved In, addition to saban, as You referenced when campbell 2294 01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:33.600 was announced as somebody who was going to kind of co. 2295 01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:36.039 Chair the thing a lot of people, pump, the, brakes 2296 01:55:36.119 --> 01:55:37.720 like wait we don't know that we want this dude 2297 01:55:38.239 --> 01:55:42.000 involved because conflict Of Interest with texas tech And Then 2298 01:55:42.119 --> 01:55:45.399 the white House That. Surrounds donald trump, they basically said 2299 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:47.560 we cannot get involved with this and that's why. They 2300 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:51.680 paused it so maybe because it is so a convoluted 2301 01:55:51.720 --> 01:55:54.319 and complex we do need the highest office of the 2302 01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:56.439 land to get involved to just have some sort. Of 2303 01:55:56.840 --> 01:55:59.880 final Solution but where i've kind of LANDED is that 2304 01:56:00.600 --> 01:56:03.560 i don't see a solution. ON the horizon i don't 2305 01:56:03.600 --> 01:56:06.920 see the dust, settling anytime soon like maybe in four. 2306 01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.640 Or five years but it feels like we have entered 2307 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:13.600 and are still in and will remain in this space 2308 01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:16.079 of ambiguity, with the sport and you just kind of 2309 01:56:16.119 --> 01:56:17.760 have to deal with it day by day and, year 2310 01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:18.399 by year and the. 2311 01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:20.039 Chaos, will continue. 2312 01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:22.199 Yeah you basically took the words out of, the mouth 2313 01:56:22.279 --> 01:56:26.920 man like this is until there is a hard and, 2314 01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:31.199 fast rule book until, there is ways until there are 2315 01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:36.039 ways to punish people, for you know mistakes or, Missteps 2316 01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:38.520 or misgivings like people are just going to be able 2317 01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:40.359 to operate the way they want to because there is. 2318 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:43.760 NO governing body i don't know if it's necessarily something 2319 01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:47.479 that needs to be congressional or, even you know involved 2320 01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:52.479 in involving the executive, branch of government like you just 2321 01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.159 need to get people to come together and. Agree on 2322 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:58.840 something but everybody's best interests are going, to be served 2323 01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:02.880 and those are generally involved. Their own right and it 2324 01:57:04.279 --> 01:57:07.960 sounds really like, depressing to say but if you're speaking 2325 01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.520 from like a, pure business perspective it doesn't make sense 2326 01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:13.680 to punt on your best interests in it for the sake. Of, 2327 01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:17.159 other people WELL and the sec and the BIG especially 2328 01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:20.000 the sec can just basically flex. 2329 01:57:20.079 --> 01:57:23.000 Its chest right and the other thing that maybe people 2330 01:57:23.079 --> 01:57:26.479 have either forgotten or they never knew is the ability 2331 01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:30.600 to enforce rules was STRIPPED FROM. The nc doublea they 2332 01:57:30.640 --> 01:57:33.239 were thrown out of, court like hey you're a, serial 2333 01:57:33.319 --> 01:57:37.039 antitrust violator and also you're no longer able to even 2334 01:57:37.159 --> 01:57:39.479 enforce the rules that you. Have in place so when 2335 01:57:39.520 --> 01:57:41.800 you hear an ANNOUNCEMENT like the SEC LEAVING, the nc 2336 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.479 doublea and look it's, twenty twenty five that's four years, 2337 01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:48.960 down the line none of, That IS surprising like i 2338 01:57:49.039 --> 01:57:51.479 feel like that's where we've been. Going All along but 2339 01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:55.520 as we continue to traverse into, this new space the 2340 01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:58.880 chasm that EXISTS between the Sec And the big ten 2341 01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.600 And even the big TWELVE and the aec continues to 2342 01:58:01.680 --> 01:58:04.319 WIDEN because the Sec And the big ten they, have 2343 01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:06.920 the cards they have the ace, in the hole and 2344 01:58:07.039 --> 01:58:09.560 we can complain about It as a big twelve market 2345 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:10.520 about what's fair or. 2346 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:12.960 What's not fair but this has turned into a. 2347 01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.680 Game OF leverage and i think it's clear THAT certainly 2348 01:58:15.760 --> 01:58:18.359 the sec probably, first and Foremost But the big ten, 2349 01:58:18.439 --> 01:58:21.399 alongside of them they are, holding The Cards and brett 2350 01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:24.520 ormar can negotiate, all he wants but if you want 2351 01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:27.000 to be part of, wherever they're going you're probably just 2352 01:58:27.039 --> 01:58:27.760 gonna have to follow. 2353 01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:28.880 Whatever they say? 2354 01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:29.880 Is? 2355 01:58:29.960 --> 01:58:32.119 That fair yeah And you mentioned. 2356 01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:34.119 Brett your market it's going to be interesting to see 2357 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:36.479 what he Says During the big twelve, meetings this week 2358 01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:41.239 because these conferences never lack, for these. Official UNOFFICIAL meetings the, 2359 01:58:41.399 --> 01:58:44.000 Sec Had theirs big. Ten had theirs Now it's the. 2360 01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:47.239 Big twelve's Turn he'll be i'm sure he'll be asked 2361 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:48.439 ad nauseum about all. 2362 01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:49.399 Of this stuff. 2363 01:58:51.159 --> 01:58:55.840 But we live in, a capitalistic society AND whoever, gets i, 2364 01:58:55.920 --> 01:58:57.520 mean you know, the rule man the man with the 2365 01:58:57.560 --> 01:58:59.199 gold makes the rules number one rule. 2366 01:58:59.239 --> 01:59:00.560 Of the drive so. 2367 01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:06.399 The sec the big ten get the biggest amount of 2368 01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:09.800 dollars because they get, the most eyeballs and the media 2369 01:59:09.880 --> 01:59:12.479 contracts are the fattest for them because most. People watch 2370 01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:15.960 them and it is it is an interesting kind of 2371 01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:20.279 dichotomy if you think about like professional sports compared. To college, 2372 01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:23.199 sports professional sports for, the most part are always driven 2373 01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:28.439 by really high. Profile urban markets college is like basically. 2374 01:59:28.520 --> 01:59:31.399 The complete opposite like how is it that a place like, 2375 01:59:31.560 --> 01:59:35.640 as you Know, remotest as, tuscaloosa You know or starkville 2376 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:38.880 can play a role, in you know these multi billion dollar. 2377 01:59:39.159 --> 01:59:41.800 Media rights deals it's because people, will watch them and people, 2378 01:59:41.880 --> 01:59:44.880 will you know at the end of the day pay 2379 01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:48.239 more attention to them because they, have more. History more 2380 01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:53.159 success and that is the reality. Of the situation and you, 2381 01:59:53.279 --> 01:59:59.159 Mentioned the Chasm like the big twelve just doesn't have any, Established. 2382 01:59:59.680 --> 02:00:04.039 You know goliath they have a bunch of maybe maybe 2383 02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:06.680 it's a little low hanging, fruit to say A, bunch 2384 02:00:06.680 --> 02:00:09.279 of david's but like they don't have anybody that's going 2385 02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:11.920 to be Like They, have deon sanders but, Other, than 2386 02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:14.399 that like is is anybody busting down the Door To 2387 02:00:14.439 --> 02:00:17.840 watch Arizona State? And kenny dillingham anybody busting down the 2388 02:00:17.960 --> 02:00:21.520 Door To watch Kyle? WHITTINGHAM and utah i mean by 2389 02:00:21.640 --> 02:00:23.239 use a little, unique in, that and, like you know 2390 02:00:23.359 --> 02:00:26.560 they have the HISTORIC contract with espn and you know 2391 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:30.840 the very, Big you know, mormon population worldwide but it's 2392 02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:34.119 it's it's, who you're marketing and these other conferences just, 2393 02:00:34.239 --> 02:00:37.359 Have such more they have so much more at their 2394 02:00:37.399 --> 02:00:38.199 disposal compared. 2395 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:41.600 To. Anyone ELSE did the pac TWELVE and the acc 2396 02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:45.000 once upon a time announced like AN alliance and I remember. 2397 02:00:44.800 --> 02:00:46.680 That big ten was involved. In, that too yeah and 2398 02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:48.159 it lasted, like two, weeks so. 2399 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:51.439 Yeah that's right and the press release like we are committed, 2400 02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:54.319 moving and no. No, you're not yeah it's. STILL so 2401 02:00:54.479 --> 02:00:57.359 wild I Was watching pacers. Knicks last night They Referenced 2402 02:00:57.399 --> 02:00:59.319 at benedict MATHEREN was The pac twelve Player, of THE 2403 02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:01.760 year and i, just started thinking like when He, Was, 2404 02:01:01.760 --> 02:01:05.119 AT arizona okay i, just started thinking in ten, or 2405 02:01:05.159 --> 02:01:06.199 fifteen years. 2406 02:01:07.560 --> 02:01:10.159 When you BRING up, the pac twelve the youngs are going, 2407 02:01:10.199 --> 02:01:11.920 to be like what the HELL is? The, pac TWELVE well. 2408 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:15.640 The pac twelve Will Be. Wazoo oregon state you know 2409 02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:17.560 some of these new guys like but. 2410 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:19.760 Like what it Was, the real yeah like A Home 2411 02:01:19.880 --> 02:01:21.600 for west coast football and it. 2412 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:25.119 Doesn't even Exist if Your, brett or mark are you 2413 02:01:25.239 --> 02:01:30.680 considering ENGAGING with the acc about potentially trying to put 2414 02:01:30.760 --> 02:01:34.560 something together there to put a contingency in place in 2415 02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:37.520 the EVENT that the Sec and the big ten say 2416 02:01:37.640 --> 02:01:40.439 we are taking our ball and we are going home 2417 02:01:40.640 --> 02:01:42.960 and you're not allowed to. Come, with us uh because 2418 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:43.560 that appears to be. 2419 02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.279 On, THE table chris i think you would need two 2420 02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:50.760 member institutions who are very prickly at their own conference 2421 02:01:50.800 --> 02:01:53.640 in The moment In Clemson in florida state to be 2422 02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.720 willing to be front facing and forward, and, being like 2423 02:01:56.840 --> 02:02:00.439 yes we're, all for this because those are two instance titians, 2424 02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:05.039 who have recently either publicly or privately threatened that they 2425 02:02:05.560 --> 02:02:07.520 may want to no longer be PART. 2426 02:02:07.560 --> 02:02:08.840 Of the acc so. 2427 02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:14.399 The heaviest hitters have, The MOST sway and i think 2428 02:02:14.439 --> 02:02:17.520 you can make easily make an argument That between the 2429 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:20.520 big TWELVE, And the Acc Clemson in florida State and 2430 02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:23.600 even miami would. Probably be third And like The big 2431 02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:26.239 the big twelve just doesn't, Really HAVE anybody so i 2432 02:02:26.319 --> 02:02:30.760 think it, would make sense but it would be it 2433 02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:32.680 would be fascinating to talk to these guys, and just 2434 02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:34.359 like why don't you guys all just, like sit, down 2435 02:02:34.720 --> 02:02:38.119 you know, in a room like just, sort it out 2436 02:02:38.319 --> 02:02:40.439 come to a come sort of come to some sort. 2437 02:02:40.479 --> 02:02:44.000 Of common ground but, egos are. Real you know the 2438 02:02:44.079 --> 02:02:46.880 amount of money on the table. Is very real it 2439 02:02:47.279 --> 02:02:50.319 just seems like And and maybe I'm a maybe i'm 2440 02:02:50.319 --> 02:02:52.560 an optimist beneath this endless. 2441 02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:57.680 Pile Of news christopher camaraddie optimist just. Seems like it 2442 02:02:57.800 --> 02:02:59.800 it seems, like IT'S? DOABLE am? I I mean? AM 2443 02:02:59.880 --> 02:03:01.479 i am i being. A, LITTLE. 2444 02:03:02.960 --> 02:03:07.680 Naive well i MEAN here's where i land On that 2445 02:03:07.880 --> 02:03:13.039 dynamic negotiations are about one, thing always power. 2446 02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:13.880 No. 2447 02:03:14.319 --> 02:03:18.920 Dang, It, leverage okay okay so. Write, This down kids take. Out, 2448 02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:20.720 The pen okay negotiations are. 2449 02:03:20.720 --> 02:03:22.199 About one. Thing it's leverage you think. 2450 02:03:22.279 --> 02:03:25.079 Kids have pens take. Out the iPad take. 2451 02:03:25.119 --> 02:03:29.279 Out the iPad type this in snapchat it. Or TikTok it. 2452 02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:32.079 There you go negotiations. Are about leverage. They just are 2453 02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:34.800 and if it's, your own life and if it's, your 2454 02:03:34.840 --> 02:03:36.800 own job and if you want to go to your 2455 02:03:36.880 --> 02:03:40.960 boss and negotiate a, new compensation package you better have 2456 02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:44.119 tangible data about the value you, provide your company or 2457 02:03:44.159 --> 02:03:45.880 you better have a job offer that, You, Can say 2458 02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:50.239 okay i'm getting paid twenty five percent, more over here 2459 02:03:50.479 --> 02:03:51.960 if you want, to keep me you have. To match 2460 02:03:52.079 --> 02:03:56.520 that so negotiations, are about leverage and the leverage RESIDES 2461 02:03:56.560 --> 02:03:57.319 with the Sec And. 2462 02:03:57.399 --> 02:03:57.840 The big ten. 2463 02:03:58.039 --> 02:04:01.479 It just does it comes to their inability to land 2464 02:04:01.520 --> 02:04:04.359 in a space where an agreement. Could be FOUND it's 2465 02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:09.119 the Acc and the big twelve complaining about the concessions 2466 02:04:09.159 --> 02:04:11.439 they're not GETTING from the Sec And. The big ten 2467 02:04:11.880 --> 02:04:13.840 BUT it's the Sec And the big ten saying we 2468 02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:15.960 don't need to give you these concessions because we. 2469 02:04:16.199 --> 02:04:19.000 Have the leverage so where's? 2470 02:04:19.039 --> 02:04:21.760 The, middle ground ultimately, and right now the one example 2471 02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:24.560 we do have that's tangible is THE expanded SIXTEEN t 2472 02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:27.359 and cfp for next year twenty twenty six to, the, 2473 02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:31.239 next cycle which as we, know right now the proposal 2474 02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:34.600 is four auto BIDS for the Sec And, the big 2475 02:04:34.680 --> 02:04:36.800 ten two auto Bids For the big TWELVE, in the 2476 02:04:36.840 --> 02:04:40.039 acc one auto Bid for the. Group of six now 2477 02:04:40.159 --> 02:04:43.399 shout out newpac twelve and then three. At large bids 2478 02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:47.800 the Reports are the big TWELVE and the acc aren't 2479 02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:51.079 happy with that because of the auto BIDS that the 2480 02:04:51.239 --> 02:04:53.399 Sec and the big. Ten are receiving but If you're 2481 02:04:53.439 --> 02:04:55.560 the big TWELVE, IN the acc i think you have 2482 02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:58.359 to understand the leverage lies with them and you might 2483 02:04:58.479 --> 02:05:00.560 just have to. Agree to that say you get you 2484 02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:02.680 get half, the auto bids. We'll take two we just 2485 02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:03.800 want to sit at your sit at. 2486 02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:08.680 YOUR lunch table i think that's VERY accurate and i. 2487 02:05:08.760 --> 02:05:11.359 THINK that's fair i Think until the big twelve finds 2488 02:05:11.399 --> 02:05:14.079 a way to establish itself with the, powers that be 2489 02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:17.319 they don't. Have any, leverage that's great it's good. Learning 2490 02:05:17.399 --> 02:05:20.680 lesson leverage. THERE we go i have a question how 2491 02:05:20.760 --> 02:05:26.319 much does THE rise of sec basketball add to their already, 2492 02:05:28.119 --> 02:05:31.319 deep war chests because like it, USED to be i 2493 02:05:31.399 --> 02:05:33.199 mean it used TO be the ACC used to I 2494 02:05:33.239 --> 02:05:37.479 mean the big Twelve, historically big, east you know. Rest 2495 02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:40.039 in peace but, NOW it's like I think the sec 2496 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:42.359 had the most amount of tournament teams and they have this. 2497 02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:46.479 Conference IN college, so i wonder, as you know a big, college, 2498 02:05:46.479 --> 02:05:48.399 troops guy indeed how much. 2499 02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:52.159 Does that add to their already. STRENGTHENED war chest i 2500 02:05:52.239 --> 02:05:54.600 don't and, YOU know this i don't think it adds, 2501 02:05:54.680 --> 02:05:58.199 much to it only because even though college basketball is 2502 02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:01.600 Viable Due, to march madness it's still a drop in 2503 02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:03.640 the bucket compared. TO college, football i mean it. 2504 02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:05.760 Can't hurt it but it's The reason Why brett yor 2505 02:06:05.840 --> 02:06:08.760 mark was Interested in adding Yukon To. The big twelve yukon, 2506 02:06:08.880 --> 02:06:12.520 football Is pathetic but yukon basketball is one of the 2507 02:06:12.680 --> 02:06:15.119 top two or three blue bloods. In the country they 2508 02:06:15.359 --> 02:06:21.399 are an, ad a beneficial tangible asset to your conference 2509 02:06:21.439 --> 02:06:24.039 because of, their basketball team not. Their football program BUT there, 2510 02:06:24.079 --> 02:06:28.520 Are I mean duke carolina football is better than it, 2511 02:06:28.640 --> 02:06:30.960 used to be but there are only a handful of 2512 02:06:31.159 --> 02:06:36.039 basketball front facing programs that really makes sense that would. 2513 02:06:36.079 --> 02:06:38.840 Help your conference you want it to be attached to a. 2514 02:06:39.079 --> 02:06:42.640 Excellent football Team It's, why brian santiago when he was 2515 02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:46.039 INTRODUCED as the, byu athletic director was very front facing that, 2516 02:06:46.119 --> 02:06:51.119 football drives us even though their economic investment is in. 2517 02:06:51.239 --> 02:06:55.239 Their basketball, program, RIGHT so look byu basketball is going 2518 02:06:55.279 --> 02:06:57.359 to be a top five. TEAM THIS year aj debonca 2519 02:06:57.520 --> 02:07:00.159 right away probably will be the best player that it's 2520 02:07:00.159 --> 02:07:02.880 ever played. In our state Do Respect to Van horne 2521 02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:06.119 and andre, And EVERYBODY else like. Aj is different but 2522 02:07:06.359 --> 02:07:09.479 if they Don't invest with kilani and his group the 2523 02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:10.760 way They've invested with kevin. 2524 02:07:10.840 --> 02:07:13.039 And, his group yeah it's awesome that you have a, 2525 02:07:13.079 --> 02:07:14.720 Great basketball program but do you Want? 2526 02:07:14.760 --> 02:07:17.239 To, be yukon no you Want. To be bama you Want. 2527 02:07:17.279 --> 02:07:19.279 To be florida you get like just won. The, national 2528 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:24.000 championship yeah and it's interesting too because you have kind of. 2529 02:07:24.079 --> 02:07:29.000 A clean slate you have an opportunity to take hold 2530 02:07:29.239 --> 02:07:33.960 of this geographical footprint where currently It's kind of oregon 2531 02:07:34.279 --> 02:07:41.000 and everybody else Like Sc Paying lincoln riley king's ransom clearly. 2532 02:07:41.119 --> 02:07:44.199 Isn't worked out washington has to figure out you know 2533 02:07:44.279 --> 02:07:47.640 who they are, after You know Losing. Kalin de, boor 2534 02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:51.760 but like the possibilities, are out there you can establish 2535 02:07:51.840 --> 02:07:55.960 yourself as. A geographical giant now it's difficult because you 2536 02:07:56.159 --> 02:07:58.159 have to be able to win those recruiting, battles out 2537 02:07:58.199 --> 02:08:00.159 west and you have to stave off all of these 2538 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:02.600 GUYS in The Sec and big ten who are coming 2539 02:08:02.640 --> 02:08:04.920 for the players. In your state but it is a 2540 02:08:05.000 --> 02:08:08.159 great point that like the likes of these Programs in 2541 02:08:08.199 --> 02:08:10.239 the big twelve have the opportunity to. 2542 02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:13.880 Seize the Moment, carp adm indeed fortune FAVORS the. BALL 2543 02:08:14.680 --> 02:08:17.800 jp does i just don't know if anybody is good 2544 02:08:17.880 --> 02:08:19.520 enough or if the pockets are deep enough. 2545 02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:21.760 To do it since you brought up best c the 2546 02:08:21.880 --> 02:08:25.439 Reports Are sc notre dame. Is going away it's not. 2547 02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:31.880 Done very BAD So look byu utah will be preserved 2548 02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:35.800 because there. Are, conference butts otherwise we were already in 2549 02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:38.199 a space where it went away incrementally and could have 2550 02:08:38.319 --> 02:08:40.319 gone away entirely if they didn't land in. The same, 2551 02:08:40.399 --> 02:08:44.880 conference college, football to me one of the things that 2552 02:08:45.000 --> 02:08:47.520 does separate IT from the. Nfl is rivalries we HAVE some, 2553 02:08:47.600 --> 02:08:49.680 good nfl rivalries but there's something different about. 2554 02:08:49.720 --> 02:08:52.399 College football rivalries is it time to? Change? 2555 02:08:52.439 --> 02:08:54.079 That paradigm though is it time to get rid of 2556 02:08:54.199 --> 02:08:57.760 any romantic idea of what college football is based off 2557 02:08:57.840 --> 02:09:02.039 of how rapidly, It's all changed Because If, you're, lincoln 2558 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:04.399 riley like why would you schedule that game if it's 2559 02:09:04.399 --> 02:09:05.920 going to get in the way of you winning your 2560 02:09:06.000 --> 02:09:08.560 conference and maybe making THE expanded to i, get, The, 2561 02:09:08.640 --> 02:09:09.680 Counterpoint Right. 2562 02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:14.239 Yeah but this goes back to the moving target of change, 2563 02:09:14.279 --> 02:09:17.039 we talked ABOUT like how i guess the auto if 2564 02:09:17.119 --> 02:09:21.840 this theoretical sixteen, team tournament exists then your auto bids 2565 02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:24.600 are your auto bids and it and maybe your strength 2566 02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:27.800 of schedule isn't getting measured the way it historically has and. 2567 02:09:28.720 --> 02:09:31.439 All These THINGS but, i'm, i mean like there's a 2568 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:35.239 reason why locally that that game is, Awesome every year, 2569 02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:38.399 like last, year on paper that game had no reason 2570 02:09:38.479 --> 02:09:40.239 being as good as it. Was it was and we've 2571 02:09:40.279 --> 02:09:42.520 talked about this over and over for the. Last twenty 2572 02:09:42.600 --> 02:09:47.199 years the one game that my wife still remembers and 2573 02:09:47.279 --> 02:09:49.199 still talks about is the Kick six With, Auburn and 2574 02:09:49.239 --> 02:09:51.760 alabama like it's The only time i've seen her like 2575 02:09:51.920 --> 02:09:55.039 actually freak out during a sporting event watching watching that 2576 02:09:55.079 --> 02:09:58.840 guy return that, Attempted field goal like if That's if That's, 2577 02:09:58.880 --> 02:10:03.399 auburn and Vandy if It's Auburn, And iowa state and does, It, 2578 02:10:03.479 --> 02:10:06.000 resonate now no. IT does not i MEAN there's and, 2579 02:10:06.119 --> 02:10:09.279 i think honestly the rivalries are why will even bring. 2580 02:10:09.399 --> 02:10:12.319 In the casuals they will bring in the likes OF 2581 02:10:12.439 --> 02:10:16.640 you and i we will probably. If we're free we'll 2582 02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:18.920 tune In For the iron bowl. To, Catch quarter sure 2583 02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:24.680 i'm not really that intrigued by the IDEA of s 2584 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:28.960 c and WHOEVER you Know, SC in TEXAS. A and, 2585 02:10:29.119 --> 02:10:31.960 m i mean that's that's too good. Of, AN example no. 2586 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:34.319 I understand the promise. And the point one, more thing 2587 02:10:34.359 --> 02:10:36.039 here then we'll. Set you loose duke is looking, AT 2588 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:38.479 me like i, gotta GO bathroom and i am one 2589 02:10:38.640 --> 02:10:41.039 dog dump in the studio away from never being allowed 2590 02:10:41.039 --> 02:10:42.880 to bring. Him in again so We're gonna get duke 2591 02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:45.720 outside and go. To the bathroom you you, Always, hear 2592 02:10:45.880 --> 02:10:48.960 THIS moniker and i, use IT too but i think 2593 02:10:49.039 --> 02:10:51.760 it's different when you look at what is transpired in 2594 02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:54.800 college football and what could, transpire in football you always hear. The, 2595 02:10:54.840 --> 02:10:58.640 same thing well regardless of, All the chaos Saturdays in 2596 02:10:58.720 --> 02:11:00.680 the Fall still feel Saturdays. 2597 02:11:00.720 --> 02:11:00.840 In the. 2598 02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:04.600 Fall they don't If You're an, oregon state. Fan they 2599 02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:06.920 don't If You're a, washington state. Fan they don't if 2600 02:11:06.960 --> 02:11:08.840 you're one of these teams that have. Been left behind 2601 02:11:09.319 --> 02:11:12.800 and if we continue to move into a space, where 2602 02:11:14.239 --> 02:11:18.680 you know, it's simply, capitalism economic investment and anyone who's, 2603 02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:21.479 in that group don't they don't need to make concessions, 2604 02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:23.680 for anybody else and we'll JUST use the Sec In. 2605 02:11:23.720 --> 02:11:25.399 The big ten and if they decide that they're going 2606 02:11:25.479 --> 02:11:27.880 to go do their, thing and period, end of. Story 2607 02:11:27.960 --> 02:11:31.640 that's it there will be More schools where saturdays in 2608 02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:34.279 the fall no Longer feel like saturdays. In the fall 2609 02:11:34.800 --> 02:11:38.840 you can make an Argument that for utah fans that 2610 02:11:39.079 --> 02:11:43.079 for a decade Plus welcomed IN oregon AND usc and 2611 02:11:43.239 --> 02:11:47.640 Ucla And the big, pac twelve brands and, suddenly that's gone, 2612 02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:51.560 and due Respect It's now iowa State and k state 2613 02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:55.319 And just and baylor and brand like, good solid programs 2614 02:11:55.359 --> 02:11:58.159 but not the brands. That were accustomed you can make 2615 02:11:58.159 --> 02:12:01.960 an argument it's saturdaydays in the fall around here Don't 2616 02:12:02.000 --> 02:12:03.920 feel like saturday's in the fall like they did a couple. 2617 02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:06.239 Of years ago and They Don't, for washington state They Don't. 2618 02:12:06.279 --> 02:12:09.239 For OREGON state where i think this sport could find 2619 02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:12.680 itself in Peril is if saturday's in the fall no 2620 02:12:12.840 --> 02:12:15.079 Longer feel like saturday's in the fall for the majority 2621 02:12:15.119 --> 02:12:16.720 of college football fan bases and they just. 2622 02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:18.520 Feel like IT for the Sec In, The big ten 2623 02:12:19.279 --> 02:12:21.920 saturdays in the fall need to force parents to make 2624 02:12:21.960 --> 02:12:24.520 their kids miss their soccer, games for games they need 2625 02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:28.439 to make them miss scheduled events because of the importance of, 2626 02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:31.000 what it means either in person, at the tailgate in 2627 02:12:31.039 --> 02:12:35.239 the stadium or even. On the tube after the news 2628 02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:38.119 BROKE that the pac, TWELVE was dissolving i was actually 2629 02:12:38.399 --> 02:12:42.079 sent if, you remember this It went, AND thanksgiving weekend 2630 02:12:42.239 --> 02:12:44.399 i went To Both the civil War And the apple 2631 02:12:44.439 --> 02:12:48.319 cup in, twenty four hours and talking to those fans 2632 02:12:48.399 --> 02:12:51.399 that have, been left behind it is a stark reminder 2633 02:12:51.520 --> 02:12:55.079 that people just because they might have gone to, a 2634 02:12:55.119 --> 02:12:57.720 different school they might, have different colors their diploma might 2635 02:12:58.079 --> 02:13:02.560 might say something different. That shouldn't, negate you know their ability, 2636 02:13:02.680 --> 02:13:06.039 to you know have the money that they invest in 2637 02:13:06.119 --> 02:13:08.640 their alma maters or the schools, that they support have. 2638 02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:14.640 It potentially payoff, and, you're right like we are rapidly 2639 02:13:15.800 --> 02:13:20.560 trending towards a world which we leave people, in SCHOOLS 2640 02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:22.159 behind and i don't think we can afford. 2641 02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:24.520 To do that great, to see, him My man. GET duke, 2642 02:13:24.560 --> 02:13:26.960 outside i will and then you're in charge of the flyer. 2643 02:13:27.159 --> 02:13:30.039 FOR fox birthday i want that you got. TWENTY four hours, 2644 02:13:30.279 --> 02:13:34.359 i got, you all right wrapping it Up for a 2645 02:13:34.439 --> 02:13:37.439 wednesday edition. Of the program halfway through, your work week 2646 02:13:37.520 --> 02:13:38.159 one day close? 2647 02:13:38.199 --> 02:13:41.199 To the Weekend Is? This phil collins? 2648 02:13:42.640 --> 02:13:42.760 Is that? 2649 02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:43.039 Who? 2650 02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:43.319 This Is? 2651 02:13:43.479 --> 02:13:47.880 This prince? Prince same thing? YOU know what i have an. 2652 02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:48.720 Admission to make. 2653 02:13:48.920 --> 02:13:49.239 This, is a. 2654 02:13:49.319 --> 02:13:50.119 Rare rare one? 2655 02:13:50.159 --> 02:13:50.319 Are you. 2656 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:55.239 READY i'm Ready i think I'm. WRONG about prince i like, 2657 02:13:55.359 --> 02:13:56.600 MY music taste i like. 2658 02:13:56.720 --> 02:13:59.880 My music takes i've never Been a, big prince guy 2659 02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:02.199 and a lot OF people who i respect the love 2660 02:14:02.319 --> 02:14:05.000 music have taken me the Task and believe prince. 2661 02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:07.159 IS a genius i just none of his stuff ever really. 2662 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:10.279 Resonated with me i'm kind. OF with you I don't, 2663 02:14:10.600 --> 02:14:13.920 dislike prince obviously just played him. ON the radio i 2664 02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:16.800 think he's got. SOME decent songs i think it's more. 2665 02:14:16.840 --> 02:14:19.920 ABOUT the performance i think it's more about the character, 2666 02:14:20.920 --> 02:14:24.039 than it is like the Musical, genius with prince not 2667 02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:26.680 that he's not like there's not good songs or if 2668 02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:30.279 that is your like preferred, type of, music it's, not. 2669 02:14:30.640 --> 02:14:33.319 YOU know terrible i can Listen to, a prince song 2670 02:14:33.399 --> 02:14:38.279 but IT'S not like i don't think the quality of 2671 02:14:38.359 --> 02:14:40.680 music that would get you to The stardom that prince has, 2672 02:14:41.479 --> 02:14:47.119 without the character, without the performer, without The aura. 2673 02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:51.760 The prince has The only REAL prince knowledge i Have 2674 02:14:52.439 --> 02:14:54.000 Are the. Great chappelle skits where? 2675 02:14:54.000 --> 02:14:54.520 Does It shoot the? 2676 02:14:54.640 --> 02:14:58.680 Jay shoot it, and would he like legitimately asking would 2677 02:14:58.680 --> 02:15:01.039 he have that stardom, without the skits without like the 2678 02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:05.119 character assistance of His? Friends in hollywood like That's part of. 2679 02:15:05.319 --> 02:15:08.560 Prince as well that's not. Discounting from, him. 2680 02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:13.920 And see it sounded Like, that Song Studio the phil 2681 02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:17.000 collins song That Was, in American Psycho the. Christian, bale 2682 02:15:17.079 --> 02:15:18.840 movie yeah that's what it sounded like, a little bit. 2683 02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:20.319 A little. Bit all right what do you? THINK about. 2684 02:15:20.319 --> 02:15:23.119 TONIGHT i, badly i, MEAN of course I want the 2685 02:15:23.159 --> 02:15:24.880 knicks to get back into it because it's just been 2686 02:15:24.960 --> 02:15:27.479 So fun watching nick playoff basketball in A way that 2687 02:15:27.520 --> 02:15:30.760 i haven't like. TWENTY five years i Would really Like 2688 02:15:30.880 --> 02:15:33.840 Minnesota and new york to. Extend these series, do, You? 2689 02:15:33.920 --> 02:15:38.119 Think man okay see when they're building. Is really lit 2690 02:15:38.359 --> 02:15:41.039 it reminds Me Of, the delta center reminds Me of like. 2691 02:15:41.199 --> 02:15:44.640 Jazz playoff basketball they're so. Good at home Do You 2692 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:47.800 Give minnesota mike tyson? Uppercut chance tonight. 2693 02:15:48.399 --> 02:15:49.159 But that was kind Of the. 2694 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:52.520 The prince thing, by The. WAY in minneapolish i Like 2695 02:15:52.600 --> 02:15:54.920 it because i'm hoping for. THE same thing i just 2696 02:15:54.960 --> 02:15:56.680 want to. SEE seven games i want to. SEE competitive 2697 02:15:56.720 --> 02:16:02.920 series i kind Of Feel like oklahoma city. Closes Out Tonight. 2698 02:16:04.279 --> 02:16:04.640 But i'm. 2699 02:16:04.680 --> 02:16:08.439 I'M With you i i'm cheering. For the alternative i'd 2700 02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:11.199 like to see, a competitive game. A COMPETITIVE series but 2701 02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:14.079 i Just think the minnesota is kind of battling up. 2702 02:16:14.119 --> 02:16:17.560 Hill right now, and you know if You Got the 2703 02:16:17.640 --> 02:16:21.640 julius randall that you saw at certain parts of the season, 2704 02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:25.079 and you, know early, postseason then yeah you probably. Have 2705 02:16:25.199 --> 02:16:29.000 A chance but i think that is less likely. Than 2706 02:16:29.399 --> 02:16:31.960 than not now that's the beautiful. 2707 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:32.120 Part. 2708 02:16:32.120 --> 02:16:35.520 About basketball man minnesota has a roster that, if they're 2709 02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:36.639 on if the, shots are. 2710 02:16:36.600 --> 02:16:39.959 Falling they can beat anyone. Any given night so do they. 2711 02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:40.040 Have? 2712 02:16:40.079 --> 02:16:43.200 A CHANCE absolutely do I think s G a M 2713 02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:48.399 vp and. OKAC advance tonight i kind of dos That's the. Way, 2714 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:49.159 I'm leaning yeah i'm. 2715 02:16:49.159 --> 02:16:51.959 Probably with you and, BY the way I don't think 2716 02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:53.760 i fully Realized How corny. 2717 02:16:54.040 --> 02:16:57.239 Oklahoma city is it's like that, there they're, stars, their 2718 02:16:57.280 --> 02:16:58.440 team corny corny. 2719 02:16:58.520 --> 02:17:00.719 Group, of dudes, well they're young they're like. 2720 02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:08.799 They're they're they're this generation of kids, who you know 2721 02:17:09.319 --> 02:17:12.559 kind of lean into as you, were talking about like they. 2722 02:17:12.600 --> 02:17:16.200 HAVE that commercial i think they're all like all on. TikTok, 2723 02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:18.799 and whatnot uh there's a little. Bit of that there's 2724 02:17:18.799 --> 02:17:22.200 a little bit of that, where, like postgame, uh the 2725 02:17:22.399 --> 02:17:26.040 interview there's some stuff that feels. A little contrived there's 2726 02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:28.920 stuff Like, That With, Donno Ben karl anthony, Towns Does 2727 02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:32.559 it jason tatum really bad with some of that stuff 2728 02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:36.479 where it seems like you're like thinking about what people 2729 02:17:36.520 --> 02:17:39.239 are gonna tweet while, you're being interviewed, and, to me like, 2730 02:17:40.680 --> 02:17:42.159 you know whatever do your? 2731 02:17:42.200 --> 02:17:44.520 Thing fair? Enough fair enough? 2732 02:17:44.799 --> 02:17:44.840 Is? 2733 02:17:44.920 --> 02:17:46.479 That, Wrong, NO no no I mean. 2734 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:49.239 LOOK i'm old. I don't understand. 2735 02:17:49.559 --> 02:17:52.559 I'm, with you Well Like the, stefan diggs stuff don't 2736 02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:55.959 video everything you're doing and release it to the masses 2737 02:17:56.040 --> 02:17:57.239 like it's only going to come back. 2738 02:17:57.280 --> 02:17:57.719 To BITE you. 2739 02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:03.280 AND i don't i don't love the whole like performance 2740 02:18:04.159 --> 02:18:08.319 kind of. Everything, feels staged, yeah you know. EVERYTHING is 2741 02:18:08.399 --> 02:18:11.639 performative i feel like all of. Politics. IS performative now 2742 02:18:11.719 --> 02:18:14.120 i feel like all of life is about filming. EVERYTHING 2743 02:18:14.159 --> 02:18:17.719 you're doing i don't need to watch you make. A turkey, 2744 02:18:17.799 --> 02:18:20.440 SANDWICH and yes i have my free agency to turn. 2745 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:23.600 The video off but when it comes to what all 2746 02:18:23.680 --> 02:18:27.120 of these, young, athletes DO like don't i don't Enjoy 2747 02:18:27.280 --> 02:18:29.600 watching chet homegrin on TikTok doing the. 2748 02:18:29.799 --> 02:18:30.479 POP and lock i. 2749 02:18:30.479 --> 02:18:32.440 Think, it's, corny well yeah you do have the free agency. 2750 02:18:32.479 --> 02:18:34.600 Turn it off but now it's like part of, ESPN's, 2751 02:18:35.879 --> 02:18:39.639 social strategy right it's You Log onto sports center and, 2752 02:18:39.920 --> 02:18:43.639 Whatever his name omar or whatever is sending out videos 2753 02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.719 of like things that have nothing to, do with sports 2754 02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:48.879 but it's an, athlete doing it so it does have 2755 02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:49.479 something to, DO with. 2756 02:18:49.520 --> 02:18:51.760 Sports i, guess and, YEAH for me. 2757 02:18:52.479 --> 02:18:55.360 I genuinely couldn't. Couldn't care less that's an avenue of 2758 02:18:55.440 --> 02:18:59.399 THE business that i have very intentionally. Steered away, from 2759 02:18:59.520 --> 02:19:03.120 but yeah, like you mentioned there's a performative aspect to, 2760 02:19:03.200 --> 02:19:05.319 it for, me You, know like donovan IT'S almost like 2761 02:19:05.959 --> 02:19:07.719 i mentioned it last week when YOU'RE playing two k 2762 02:19:08.120 --> 02:19:10.319 and your answer to an interview question is LIKE. Circle 2763 02:19:10.639 --> 02:19:13.840 triangle x feels like that with a lot of, these 2764 02:19:13.920 --> 02:19:16.520 YOUNG players and i think a lot of it is 2765 02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:19.639 the environment that they grew up in, the social sphere 2766 02:19:19.719 --> 02:19:20.520 that They, grew up yeah. 2767 02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:22.680 YOU nailed, IT i MEAN i guess i have a 2768 02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:25.600 hard time faulting young people who are raised with cell 2769 02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:28.440 phones as their babysitters and, they're best friends like that's. 2770 02:19:28.520 --> 02:19:30.879 JUST the deal i heard an interview with a teacher 2771 02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:36.159 recently who and this is, not sports related but they 2772 02:19:36.239 --> 02:19:37.680 told me that kids. 2773 02:19:37.479 --> 02:19:38.520 Have changed in the. 2774 02:19:38.600 --> 02:19:42.959 Last ten years, children, have changed right which this is 2775 02:19:43.040 --> 02:19:45.639 kind of. Scary to me they said that, TEN years 2776 02:19:45.639 --> 02:19:51.200 ago i was just like seeing kids. Living their lives 2777 02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:58.479 now school is the kids pausing, their real life which 2778 02:19:58.559 --> 02:19:59.319 is on a tablet. 2779 02:19:59.399 --> 02:20:01.760 Or an iPhone ah huh interesting and. 2780 02:20:01.840 --> 02:20:04.399 THAT is uh i DON'T know how i, feel about 2781 02:20:04.399 --> 02:20:06.520 that because those are the people who are spending the time. 2782 02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:06.600 With. 2783 02:20:06.639 --> 02:20:09.280 The kids yeah no's that's. An interesting, point and look 2784 02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:11.639 final thing and then we'll. Say good night i'm sure 2785 02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:15.399 people are already rolling. Their eyes here when we started 2786 02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:19.920 to monetize social media and influencers, became a thing. 2787 02:20:20.239 --> 02:20:22.600 The brand the toothpaste was out, of the tube. 2788 02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:25.159 And so now everybody wants to. Be AN influencer and 2789 02:20:25.239 --> 02:20:28.239 i think influencers are the ills. OF our society i 2790 02:20:28.280 --> 02:20:31.760 cannot stand this. Group of people but it's also a 2791 02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:33.719 way that a lot of young people make their way. 2792 02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:34.799 Through the world they pay their. 2793 02:20:34.840 --> 02:20:38.280 Bills this way and once we Started to Monetize facebook And, 2794 02:20:38.399 --> 02:20:41.760 instagram and twitter and we said, to young people you 2795 02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:43.639 can actually get paid a lot of money if you 2796 02:20:43.799 --> 02:20:46.799 are front facing and performative by filming everything you do 2797 02:20:47.399 --> 02:20:50.559 and then sending it out. To the masses that's, when 2798 02:20:50.639 --> 02:20:53.120 everything changed and we're. Not going back so it's just 2799 02:20:53.239 --> 02:20:53.600 the world. 2800 02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:54.000 That it is. 2801 02:20:54.239 --> 02:20:57.280 We're not influent the word influence, is. Different now spence 2802 02:20:57.639 --> 02:21:00.879 influence used to be like something, you garnered through LIKE 2803 02:21:01.040 --> 02:21:01.639 power or. 2804 02:21:03.319 --> 02:21:04.120 I don't know even. 2805 02:21:04.159 --> 02:21:06.760 What it is now it's just whatever some brand is 2806 02:21:06.799 --> 02:21:09.559 willing to pay you to put their product out there 2807 02:21:09.600 --> 02:21:10.120 and pretend that. 2808 02:21:10.200 --> 02:21:13.520 You like it PROMO code price, espn, seven hundred. 2809 02:21:13.280 --> 02:21:15.559 Indeed indeed say you can get fifty bucks when you 2810 02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:17.920 play your first. Five, dollars lineup no IT'S like whenever 2811 02:21:18.000 --> 02:21:21.879 i hear they're, gonna ban TikTok how people are paying bills. 2812 02:21:22.120 --> 02:21:24.559 On that platform now you'll get sued up. 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