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<v Speaker 1>All right, I really only know one meat love song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the I would Do Anything for Love song. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not familiar with this one. Which which meat love song?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you decide to go with her?

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<v Speaker 2>A little? Two out of three ain't bad? Okay? I

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<v Speaker 2>think the next most popular meat loaf tune?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, maybe, so let's let's get a little I

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<v Speaker 1>would do anything for love, next spump deal, I got you? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Trevor Riley's live in studio, Trevor. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>is there such a thing as simply good music?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you define what good music is? Or is it

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<v Speaker 1>simply discretion and left up to one's taste.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if you like classical music at all,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like drums and violin, guitar, piano, I think Chicago, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the album where they had David whatever his name

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<v Speaker 2>was Foster produced the album That's pretty good music, ok okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That mixes the pop with some you know, old school

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<v Speaker 2>instrumental stuff with rock and roll yacht rock type stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's smooth and anybody can listen to it,

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<v Speaker 2>because not everybody likes rock and roll. True, not everybody

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<v Speaker 2>likes rap, but yacht rock seems to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>those I can like Billy Iole, He's all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can digest it easily. Yeah, it's it's like

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<v Speaker 2>people who speak Spanish from Peru, not a heavy accent,

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<v Speaker 2>easy to understand. Right, you go to Dominican republics can

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<v Speaker 2>be a little tough. Yeah, yeah, that two years of

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish is going to be out the window now. Fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Riley is live in studio, one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>to ever do it for the utes, longtime NFL VET.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I do this with you every time you

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<v Speaker 1>hop into I just want the update, man, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want the update because I have no specific questions.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know where this is going to go. What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with you as of now? It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>wild ride. Okay. I just got off the phone with

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Bleckin and Sennie found Nukul nice. That's my defensive

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<v Speaker 2>staff here with the UTA Islanders. So sell that community

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<v Speaker 2>College affiliated. We're playing Snow College two Saturdays from tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>in harrim at Zions Bank Stadium. Tickets from five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>right check us out Utilanders dot com. But we've been

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<v Speaker 2>game planning, okay, and so we were putting a roster together.

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<v Speaker 2>We went from about fifteen guys to we're up at

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty five now, and so that's cool. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a Utah Players Association we formed, you know, Jesse Boone,

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<v Speaker 2>Nate Orchard's our president. We got Sly and Matt Martinez

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<v Speaker 2>on the board, myself and a few others, Derek Shelby.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got a scrimmage tomorrow with the Utes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna have our first official meeting there and

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe some radio stuff and then you know, newly married.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That a boy, Congratulations, I met your bride. She's lovely,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't she beautiful?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gorgeous sched job at Lichiatre's art by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>great watercolorists, very nice, very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So Utah Islanders, Utah Islanders dot Com is

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<v Speaker 1>where you go. So Trev, let's kind of go back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because radio is not linear for our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who were not tuned in prior to take us

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<v Speaker 1>through the origin story. When did you first come up

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<v Speaker 1>with this idea and then unpack exactly what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all the credit goes to Chrystalin and his wife Jess.

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<v Speaker 2>They kept this semi pro football team alive just for

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<v Speaker 2>the love of the game. Neither of them have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a couple who are They own a company

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<v Speaker 2>called screen Protect and they were He wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>involved in football, so he starts this. He gets involved

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<v Speaker 2>with the Sentinels that used to be okay, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is low, low level. This is beer league ball, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is the old school beer league ball. Got to

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<v Speaker 2>start somewhere. So this is a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So then they morphed it, and you know, he's an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets this idea, why don't we link up with

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<v Speaker 2>the college and so Solid Community College, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>does not and has never had football. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>void that's easily filled. So he set that up and

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<v Speaker 2>then we got a couple of guys on board, T

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Kenny from the University of Utah and a few

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<v Speaker 2>other guys. And then you know, he called me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to kind of put a bow on

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. You put this thing together like how you

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it Jackson State and Colorado and helping out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I learned from Bobby Black and at Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my best friend up there, and so there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of continuity there. And so the idea was this

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<v Speaker 2>that we can put together a team where we can

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<v Speaker 2>do a life after ball, right, you know, an entrepreneur school,

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<v Speaker 2>trade school, and that way, if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to class Spence, you can still play secondary ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, if you do want to

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<v Speaker 2>go play Division one, we'll set you. We got an

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<v Speaker 2>academic advisor, you got a scholarship here at the community.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot there. But the biggest thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that we have junior college ball. I call it single

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<v Speaker 2>a football now, Okay, in Salt Lake, in Utah County.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to go to eat from anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a big deal. It is. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of kids that are gonna I mean they're showing it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're calling me every day, dude, I love. I love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that. So I have the website up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell people continuously go to Utah Islanders dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a roster.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a roster up on your website.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, last time you joined us, you said, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the young men practicing with you was wearing an ankle monitor.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all about redemption. Baby, I'm with you, you know me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. Did this? Did he make the team? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's great linebacker. Okay, Uh, he's just he's a great kid,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. He's actually related to the schools. So I

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<v Speaker 2>coached at Utah nice me by sool, very nice and

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<v Speaker 2>so uh he's shown up every day. And we have

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<v Speaker 2>other kids. We have a kid who's an engineer. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be an engineer. We know a kid wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be a doctor. We have a kid who's a plumber,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a kid who's a welder. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a kid who owns his own car detailing business. Just

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<v Speaker 2>got a new Beamer. Nice. So, I mean, there's a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a potpourri of people. But the good thing is

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<v Speaker 2>it's local. It's about ninety percent local. So this game

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, the twenty third, it's a celebration in the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Utah. You're going to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the great high school players you've seen in the last

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<v Speaker 2>five to six years. And then Snow College is going

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<v Speaker 2>to put a great team out there. And Nashley rank

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<v Speaker 2>last year and what we have to start looking at this. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>listen here this is developmental football. Now, Okay, we are

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<v Speaker 2>the farm teams for Utah and BYU, and so that's

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<v Speaker 2>what this is. You want to come see what the

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<v Speaker 2>talent looks like. Right. We just saw what BYU did

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<v Speaker 2>with Jay Hill. Yep, they farmed about six of them

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<v Speaker 2>out there, right, brought them on over one eleven games.

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<v Speaker 2>So the blueprints already there. And I think we're heading

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<v Speaker 2>the right direction. And thanks for having a song, but

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<v Speaker 2>that we really appreciate. Oh of course, you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>my guy. So your reference. You're going to scrimmage the Utes? No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying we want to feed them players. But

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<v Speaker 2>earlier you said you have a scrimmage. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>This Utes have a scrimmage tomorrow? Correct, And well I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there. That's the Utah Players Association. Oh, I see

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<v Speaker 2>we have we now have got we've become official. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we went on the internet, so I guess it's official.

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<v Speaker 2>Not on social media, but I guess that's how it

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<v Speaker 2>goes now. Nate Fakafula Orchard is our president of the

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor of sac Lake City. Indeed, Jesse Boone vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said before it was kind of a brain

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<v Speaker 2>trust between those guys and myself put this thing together.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we're working with Pablocanno and Rudy Rudy,

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying. We're trying to We got to get the

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<v Speaker 2>alumni involved, right And that's that's this thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>tells as you know, as a you, that's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>we've always talked about. I think you know, Jeff Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>and his crew and Pablo there, they're bridging the gap

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<v Speaker 2>with us and I think we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>good family of meeting on Saturday. How how can you

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<v Speaker 2>and alumni get involved with this? Well, first thing we

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<v Speaker 2>need to support, right we and for all U ex players,

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<v Speaker 2>if you played one day of University Utah football, please

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<v Speaker 2>come to the scrimmage on Saturday. Reach out to Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Fry or Pablocanno. We got a We had a lunch

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<v Speaker 2>at El Cholo Restaurant after from two to four and

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be our hangout spot and we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>you over there. Spence. We're going, We're we we got

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<v Speaker 2>it going though now. So now it's we're like every

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<v Speaker 2>other university. It's like some novel things like it's already

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<v Speaker 2>just this is what it is now, so you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you have some good momentum. You know, the things

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<v Speaker 2>are just going in the right direction. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, imagine this if you are a donor, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what if we start a hedge fund? What if I

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<v Speaker 2>get some private equity money? Would you got to give

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<v Speaker 2>you money to the school? Give it ust We'll go

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<v Speaker 2>buy players. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's out of the box thinking like this

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening across the country. That honestly, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out some angle, Trev. Because ultimately the reality right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not surprising to me because I said

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<v Speaker 1>this five years ago when NIL started to become a reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this is going to really benefit BYU. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to really benefit Brigham Young. They have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of entrepreneurs that have graduated from school and started companies

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<v Speaker 1>and MLMs and whatever else they've done, the Silicon slopes,

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<v Speaker 1>the tech bros who have made hundreds of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars sometimes billions of dollars, that very much love BYU

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<v Speaker 1>Athletics and the interesting tie. This is something we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this week because Notre Dame and BYU right now

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<v Speaker 1>have massive collectives and economic tax free money based infusion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tax free money. But the other thing it is

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<v Speaker 1>trev and you know this because you have an LDS background.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Catholic and you love Notre Dame, and

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame says to you, Notre Dame football is a

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<v Speaker 1>great conduit in a vehicle for the exposure for the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic church. If you're a member of the Catholic church

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<v Speaker 1>and you love Notre Dame, you say to Jack Swarbuck,

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<v Speaker 1>how much money do you need?

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<v Speaker 2>If this is the deal, If you're telling me that my.

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<v Speaker 1>Football program or my basketball program will lead to more

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<v Speaker 1>exposure for the church that I love and that's my

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<v Speaker 1>faith system, here's a blank check. And if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the LDS church and Brian Santiago comes to

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<v Speaker 1>you and says, we believe our football program is the

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<v Speaker 1>best missionary tool that we have in athletic department to

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<v Speaker 1>spread the gospel, what are you going to say? How

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<v Speaker 1>much money do you want? Utah does not have that

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<v Speaker 1>built an advantage. Yes, plenty of LDS people on the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, plenty of LDS people the administration, plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>LDS people that are alumni. But Utah does not utilize

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever the out of the box idea is, Trev,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. And to answer a few of those points there,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say this, We've never had an alumni meeting ever. Never. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>we've never now that And maybe that's not a normal thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure they've had the meetings. Just no one's showing,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I'm not, and I've heard that from a

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<v Speaker 2>number of people. That's not anybody's fault. We were a

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<v Speaker 2>commuter school, right, we were not. They just put dorms

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<v Speaker 2>up there. What for the Olympics. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>It's downtown Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had dorms, but I can tell you it

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<v Speaker 2>So some of the things, right, they tore up the

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<v Speaker 2>to say this. I mentioned Brian and Sinny. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>meet and Brian, especially Brian really he was there, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he started as a freshman. We met, We beat

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Donald in that team Pittsburgh twenty ten. He has

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, you go from that right to the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>The money, right, that was the biggest deal. We were

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<v Speaker 2>obviously coach mc bride started the whole thing, Chris Hill

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<v Speaker 2>hiring him and hiring Majeris. You know, Chris Hill doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get eno credit for those two hires. Those are two

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<v Speaker 2>big hires. Man. You don't have to worry about basketball

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<v Speaker 2>football for ten years a decade. And so going forward,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to start collaborating with the school. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>all want to win, Okay, the goal is to win,

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<v Speaker 2>and for players like for one thing. We want healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be nice, right, we got twenty five hundred X players,

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<v Speaker 2>we could put something together. Right, That's something we could

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<v Speaker 2>do so that they're among other things. Right, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good goal to start with, I think Spence. And then

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<v Speaker 2>for us, we want to be a vehicle to drive

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<v Speaker 2>money for the school. We need to start earning money

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<v Speaker 2>for the team. We need an a owl money now,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it. Yep, okay, or it's people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to start getting fired, and the people start getting

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<v Speaker 2>angry and you start blaming people. It's because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any money. You're athletics right in Vegas, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>the talk. You don't want to be the A's. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be Utah State where they got one

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's in a OL money. That's it. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback. So we do not that where we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be that. But it's the have and have nots.

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<v Speaker 2>I just these Texas schools they got money, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big twelve, right and the Mormons they got money.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got to figure out a way. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hoping we can collaborate with all the great minds who've

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<v Speaker 2>doing big things. We should we need to start meeting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Athletic did a piece today about the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>looking into private equity. The Big Ten is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make over a billion dollars this year and every member

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<v Speaker 1>institution is going to take home about eighty nine million.

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<v Speaker 1>That dwarfs what the Big twelve schools are going to

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<v Speaker 1>take home. BYU will be a full rev sharing school

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<v Speaker 1>next year. They're not full yet. Utah was full of

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<v Speaker 1>rev right out of the gates, which says a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how the Big Twelve wanted Utah. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>compare the Big Twelve to the SEC and the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 1>this with private equity money, you can just kiss it goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I really still think Trevor, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, there will be this line of delineation that

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<v Speaker 1>Ten of the SEC doing their own thing and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else being left OUTNC basically, and so if your Utah,

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<v Speaker 1>if your BYU, you know, the two schools that we

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<v Speaker 1>cover the most on the show. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>everything in order that if that phone call comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the powers and the Big ten of the SEC and

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<v Speaker 1>they say we are breaking away, no more NCAA, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a rip about partnerships with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We are breaking away, but we are interested in you Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>To join us, you have to have everything in line

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<v Speaker 1>and none, the least of which is your economic model.

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<v Speaker 2>And I honestly don't know what it is at Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. Well, my grandfather tells great stories Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Riley about when the Arizona schools. He says, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>the pack a, those Arizona schools got in here. They

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<v Speaker 2>took a decade even be relevant. And he had a point.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back and looked at if he wasn't wrong

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways. And so what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>if you even if you know we're going to scale,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll probably be a two conference football thing in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>And the NCAA has already done anyway. I mean at

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<v Speaker 2>my level, they did. They allow all intent and purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>At our level, we're playing junior colleges Division two and

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<v Speaker 2>Division three and semi proteins. So it's already. And I

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<v Speaker 2>used to tell people I was at Jackson State. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw our compliance officer. We had one. She

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<v Speaker 2>was awesome, you know, she was for the whole school.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't because we were breaking rules. It just

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<v Speaker 2>they know at the bottom, they don't care. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when you start scaling up, right, we're at the point

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<v Speaker 2>now where they don't care anymore, the big schools because

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<v Speaker 2>they've lost the recort case. And so going to what

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<v Speaker 2>I think for Utah, we don't want to get caught

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<v Speaker 2>like Arizona's or we get into the big time and

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<v Speaker 2>then we're ten years behind. Yeah, yeah, you spend a

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<v Speaker 2>decade catching up financially, Let's get ahead of it. We

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<v Speaker 2>know what's coming, right, Yeah, I mean that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's moving now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some complications with some of the television deals

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<v Speaker 1>that don't expire for a few years. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you would have asked me to have five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>what will the sport look like in five years meaning now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have told you I thought we would already

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<v Speaker 1>be in that model. Okay, so five years later, what

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at now a few complications and there there

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<v Speaker 1>are there's some momentum in Congress or the ability for

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<v Speaker 1>players to collectively bargain, now, that will be something that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be passed through legislators and local leaders. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some complications when it comes to treating football

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<v Speaker 1>players like employees.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly for public school.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Utah, BYU does not have the same complications and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not beholden to the state the way the University

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<v Speaker 2>They still take federal dollars though, I think, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be beholding to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as the ability to treat people like

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<v Speaker 1>employees and collectively bargain, so the players and look, the

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<v Speaker 1>complications will be taken on by very smart lawyers who

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<v Speaker 1>see dollar signs. Like the best career right now in

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<v Speaker 1>law is to sue the NC DOUBLEA because like over

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<v Speaker 1>the time, over the past five years, like every lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>that's been filed by the NC DOUBLEA or against the

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<v Speaker 1>NC DOUBLEA has gone against them. And so whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>hear people, I think it's lazy analysis. When I hear

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<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, there's too much red tape, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>traverse it, Yes you can. And powerful lawyers will take

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<v Speaker 1>on this task of teaming up with college athletes and

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<v Speaker 1>saying we will collectively bargain on your behalf, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will negotiate a salary cap. I know there's the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>point five mil that's been out there, but that's low

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the revenue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's brought in. Plus there's private money on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Private money on topic. It will negotiate a salary cap.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to negotiate a pension. We're going to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're taking care of long after you play.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the powers that being in the new era

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<v Speaker 1>of college football, will negotiate with the lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to look a lot like the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, this should have happened yesterday because if we

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<v Speaker 1>do this, Trevor, what it does is alleviate the issue

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<v Speaker 1>of players leaving after a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why would you you sign a contract?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're here for two years with a team option

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<v Speaker 1>for a third year, and that option will not be exercised.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a top two round pick, you can lead

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the draft. If you do that, players

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<v Speaker 1>do not transfer willy nilly. You can keep them on

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<v Speaker 1>campus and develop a program instead of trying to break it.

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<v Speaker 2>Bronco Menerha's eighty new players this year. Most schools have

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<v Speaker 2>between sixty and seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it impossible for a coaching staff to build

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<v Speaker 1>a program, and it makes it impossible for a community

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<v Speaker 1>to latch onto players because they're here for a year.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean to your point, just to bring it

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<v Speaker 2>back the Islanders, just to include us in one little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If we are really the bottom, right, if we are

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<v Speaker 2>the single a ball, and we'll say Utah States triple A.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a kid right now and you have an

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<v Speaker 2>offer from Utah State, it's a linebacker. You get to

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<v Speaker 2>go burning. You'r a Velligi a billion start as a freshmen.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to pay any money, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>come play for us. I take nine units. Your clock

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't start now. You can see where it starts getting

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<v Speaker 2>a little fuzzy there right right. If you're a parent

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<v Speaker 2>and you're a kid, like well, if I see my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>will it developed? Why don't we just take this year

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<v Speaker 2>over here? And so now the system becomes such where

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<v Speaker 2>it cannibalizes itself at the bottom and so at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have some structure, you know, he's seen that

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<v Speaker 2>movie with the Duluth Eskimos with George Clooney. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about in the twenties when they when the government got

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<v Speaker 2>involved because people were dying in the NFL games. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think that's not I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>a dying in college football. But it's getting out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me when I tell you, I mean I have

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<v Speaker 2>some off air wild stories about negotiations about NIL that

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<v Speaker 2>are just like a but just think AU basketb. They

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<v Speaker 2>already made the documentary with the AU basketball. We've already

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<v Speaker 2>seen this show, right, It's not something that's totally crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got to get some structure up there. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Congress is going to get involved becaus I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>earlier when you take federal money, right, they want to

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<v Speaker 2>say right now they see that they're not getting a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of this pie. Let's be honest with Curre administration

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<v Speaker 2>not getting political, but they're they're taxing everybody. So Trump's

416
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<v Speaker 2>made it a thing where he's he'll get involved if

417
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<v Speaker 2>they don't government themselves. And Trump's a football guy. We

418
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<v Speaker 2>know that from the what was the league, the USFL okay,

419
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<v Speaker 2>and he tried to get in the NFL. So I

420
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<v Speaker 2>could see him. You know, if this thing goes south

421
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<v Speaker 2>again this year where it's just a complete s show,

422
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<v Speaker 2>as we would say, I think the FEDS are going

423
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<v Speaker 2>to get involved because they're they're the ones spending money

424
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<v Speaker 2>on these schools well, and they're trying to get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with that red tape is that it's so

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan that any Republican bill has to pass through Democratic

427
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<v Speaker 1>votes and they're just not going to vote in lockstop

428
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<v Speaker 1>for everything because they have different approaches of how they

429
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<v Speaker 1>think that this should work.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe football can save America is the only bipartisan thing

431
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<v Speaker 2>left right when you get together and.

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<v Speaker 1>Get some legislation, please, football will make America great again.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Okay, So Trav, let's let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment.

435
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<v Speaker 1>If we have any listeners right now, know of a

436
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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty year old that played high school football, was

437
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<v Speaker 1>really good, couldn't make grades, didn't have money to pay tuition,

438
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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get a scholarship, or just didn't have Look, man,

439
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<v Speaker 1>this is a tough game because ultimately, with the way

440
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<v Speaker 1>it is now, you have to pay a ton of

441
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<v Speaker 1>money for your young man to start playing soccer or

442
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<v Speaker 1>basketball or football at a very young age, and it's

443
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<v Speaker 1>a very specialized situation where if you want to play

444
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<v Speaker 1>in high school, you kind of have to be a

445
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<v Speaker 1>part of the pipeline when you're six, seven, eight years old,

446
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<v Speaker 1>like expensive man baseball, dude, exactly. I mean my son

447
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<v Speaker 1>played club soccer. I remember the first trip you had

448
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<v Speaker 1>to take. I was like, wait, I'm playing thirteen grand

449
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<v Speaker 1>for that, Like what's going on here? So if you

450
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<v Speaker 1>don't have the means to expose your child to a

451
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<v Speaker 1>high school coach and by proxy a college coach, if

452
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<v Speaker 1>you have that young man who you think has potential,

453
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<v Speaker 1>you have a home for him with the Islanders, right.

454
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<v Speaker 2>And I got to preface this right now, I need

455
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of big boys. I need some offensive lineman,

456
00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.680
<v Speaker 2>he's a defensive lineman, or two need a quarterback. Right.

457
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<v Speaker 2>But when the season ends, right, it was short season,

458
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<v Speaker 2>we're done in October eleventh, we'll be having tryouts again.

459
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<v Speaker 2>And we're always looking for talent, right, And it's gett

460
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<v Speaker 2>a little closer to the edge here. That's why we're

461
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<v Speaker 2>narrow down to those specific positions. But absolutely and not

462
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<v Speaker 2>just nineteen to twenty. I want guys nineteen to twenty

463
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<v Speaker 2>six there's gonna be return missionaries. I got a guys

464
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<v Speaker 2>twenty three as a freshman. This is guys, This is

465
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<v Speaker 2>not called this is pro ball now. This is single

466
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<v Speaker 2>A ball and single A baseball. They got thirty year

467
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<v Speaker 2>olds in there. I'm not saying we want that because

468
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<v Speaker 2>you want to graduate, guys, right, but you know there's

469
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be certain that Chris Wanky won the Heisman at

470
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<v Speaker 2>what twenty eight twenty Yeah, that was twenty five of

471
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<v Speaker 2>my senior year. So yeah, to your point, if you

472
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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to school but you still want

473
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<v Speaker 2>to play ball, we got a spot for you. If

474
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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to go to a bigger school, we got

475
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<v Speaker 2>a spot for you. If you want to do welding

476
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<v Speaker 2>and you need free welding school, we got a spot

477
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<v Speaker 2>for you. How about trucking, we got a spot for you. Yeah.

478
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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot going on. Plus, if you figure

479
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<v Speaker 2>this personal train and football, you talked about that, how

480
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<v Speaker 2>about they don't tell you if you want to really

481
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<v Speaker 2>get good at soccer, your son needs to go to

482
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<v Speaker 2>three days a week to a personal trainer. That's fact. Yeah,

483
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<v Speaker 2>we are offering personal training as football coaches. It's basically

484
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<v Speaker 2>a walk on when you go to Utah State or

485
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<v Speaker 2>BA or Utah you used to walk on. That's an

486
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<v Speaker 2>expensive amount of money you're paying to play football. Yeah,

487
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<v Speaker 2>for sure, like fifty a year to play football. One

488
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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. It's not that cost here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and let me just say this for anybody who's

490
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<v Speaker 1>listening who might feel little skeptical, the one thing that

491
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<v Speaker 1>wins in sport is talent, period, end of story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a or if you know all

493
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<v Speaker 1>the family that as a young man, if you're listening

494
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<v Speaker 1>and you know a family that as a young man

495
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<v Speaker 1>that for whatever reason didn't get the exposure to his

496
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<v Speaker 1>high school or college coach, couldn't make grades, didn't have tuition.

497
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<v Speaker 1>If you take advantage of what Trevor's offering, all it

498
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<v Speaker 1>takes is one practice where Morgan Scalley shows up and says, wait,

499
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<v Speaker 1>who is that?

500
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<v Speaker 2>That's it?

501
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<v Speaker 1>And then and then guess what they do, Trevor, They

502
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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. If you have the talent, they will

503
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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to get you into the University of Utah.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Cameron you remember him, sure, yeah, yeah, he just

505
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<v Speaker 2>shows up at SC I want to play, And now

506
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<v Speaker 2>he's getting made. He made thirty million dollars. Now that's

507
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<v Speaker 2>a one off story, but there's a lot of those stories. Man.

508
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<v Speaker 2>I found a guy at Betos one time, Betos when

509
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<v Speaker 2>I was playing. You can ask Klonie Sataki was his cousin.

510
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it, Okay. I seen this big Tongua

511
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<v Speaker 2>cat in there eating burritos, had about three of them.

512
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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, dude, we could use you on the

513
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<v Speaker 2>scout old line, all right, and so I shot him

514
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<v Speaker 2>showed up. That was when I was a sophomore in college.

515
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<v Speaker 2>They called him Beatos and he stuck it out for

516
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<v Speaker 2>a while. But you will find him anywhere. I found

517
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<v Speaker 2>a guy at church, okay, six seven three twenty wow,

518
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<v Speaker 2>like two years of college community college basketball. He's my

519
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<v Speaker 2>starting left tackle. There you go. Okay. I found a

520
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<v Speaker 2>guy at the nightclub, all right, big old Mexican dude

521
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<v Speaker 2>playing a receiver at some junior college. He's playing defensive

522
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<v Speaker 2>end for US. Great guy. Yeah, so we'll find him anywhere. Okay.

523
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<v Speaker 2>We've also found kids at other schools, so it's not

524
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<v Speaker 2>just backyard boogie. I'm saying to your point, if I

525
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<v Speaker 2>see some talent, right, I'm gonna ask a question. Hey,

526
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<v Speaker 2>are you available, right, because that's what the name of

527
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<v Speaker 2>the game is. It's the currency of this game. Yeah,

528
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<v Speaker 2>if you have talent, you have you have a say always.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I could go on and on about

530
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<v Speaker 1>stories of you know, random NBA people going to street

531
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<v Speaker 1>ball games at Rucker Park or in New York and saying, wait,

532
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<v Speaker 1>who's that kid? That's it and suddenly he's got a

533
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<v Speaker 1>college scholarship and suddenly he has a chance to play

534
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<v Speaker 1>pro bawl.

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<v Speaker 2>There. This is not linear. Life is not a straight line.

536
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<v Speaker 1>There's not one way to make this happen, which is

537
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<v Speaker 1>why the model is pretty intriguing.

538
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<v Speaker 2>Let's use your upcoming scrimmage to Snow College. Okay, and

539
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<v Speaker 2>then that's actually a real game. Okay, the scrimmage is

540
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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow with the ut I keep like I might I

541
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<v Speaker 2>probably cross those but a little bit. But let's go

542
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<v Speaker 2>to the game that you're playing against Snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, maybe your goal is Utah or b YU or

544
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<v Speaker 1>D one or P four, but Snow is a great

545
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<v Speaker 1>conduit to that. I mean, how many great Snow college

546
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<v Speaker 1>players or Rick's college players went on to play at

547
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<v Speaker 1>b YU and Utah and Utah State.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Been the lifeblood, right, they've been the life blood of

549
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<v Speaker 2>those two programs.

550
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<v Speaker 1>So if you can get with the Islanders and they're

551
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<v Speaker 1>playing against and the head coach of SNOW sees that

552
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<v Speaker 1>one kid and is like, what's his deal? Suddenly you

553
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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to play college football and then you'll

554
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<v Speaker 1>be exposed to even a bigger audience.

555
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<v Speaker 2>And SNOW is playing the same team as we are.

556
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<v Speaker 2>We're actually playing better teams than SNOW because at our

557
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<v Speaker 2>level we're playing Laverne College, Redlands University. Now I say better,

558
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<v Speaker 2>let me rephrase that thir D two and D three

559
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<v Speaker 2>and on a hierarchy that they should be better. You

560
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<v Speaker 2>know how that goes. Some of these powerhouse jac's could

561
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<v Speaker 2>be beat small D one s a player. But to

562
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<v Speaker 2>your point, we have junior college football in Salt Lake

563
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<v Speaker 2>and Utah County. It's in Harriman, it's at RSLs Indo.

564
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<v Speaker 2>You know where that's at. Your family built the dang place.

565
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<v Speaker 2>So we're you know, you guys are taxing. Then they're taxes,

566
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<v Speaker 2>but it's a good deal. Okay. So the key is this,

567
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to play ball and you have some talent,

568
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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to go to Ephraim. How does that sound? Yeah,

569
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<v Speaker 2>I've been Okay, so spot, I stopped and I left

570
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<v Speaker 2>right on the spot. It's a great place. Senny's from

571
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<v Speaker 2>me from Okay. He's running a cattle ranch out Okay.

572
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<v Speaker 2>So to each their own. But you don't have to

573
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<v Speaker 2>go there. I don't do what Salt Lake in Utah County.

574
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<v Speaker 2>They are two of the most growing places in the world.

575
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<v Speaker 2>Ay Probo has an airport that's flying direct to DC. Yep.

576
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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't have thought that twenty years ago, not at all.

577
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<v Speaker 2>And so we're in the spot now where we're a

578
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<v Speaker 2>national dude, and if we joined this Big Ten, one

579
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<v Speaker 2>of these two schools are going to be in the

580
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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten soon. I think. I think you're right about that.

581
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<v Speaker 1>And another way to look at this. I'm sure we've

582
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<v Speaker 1>all watched the documentary Last Chance. You where either a

583
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<v Speaker 1>football program or a basketball program from a small juco

584
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<v Speaker 1>in Mississippi or whatever has three or four dudes that

585
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<v Speaker 1>are good enough to play at Bama and some have

586
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<v Speaker 1>gone on to play in the pros, but they just

587
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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the same access that some of the other

588
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<v Speaker 1>kids had. It's kind of another way to look at.

589
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<v Speaker 2>It, think Marshaun Lynch, I sat clipping him yesterday. It

590
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<v Speaker 2>formed a guy on the sideline with his camera caves protective,

591
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<v Speaker 2>right camera, that's right, yeah, Junior College. Yeah, okay, he's

592
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<v Speaker 2>from your Richmond, I think at Oakland. But I mean

593
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<v Speaker 2>there's so many guys and I could just Shakey Smithson

594
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<v Speaker 2>all American, right, So Terrence Kane, I mean, there's just

595
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<v Speaker 2>so many guys throughout the year. Garrett Bulls, Aaron Rodgers College. Yeah,

596
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>so everybody knows that we don't need to blay in

597
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<v Speaker 2>that point. It's just now it's here, and now we

598
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<v Speaker 2>have a game Saturday, August twenty third. There's no other game.

599
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have live DJ, We're gonna have food trucks. Right,

600
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 2>this is a twelve to ten event. Bring your kids,

601
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's football on a Saturday. Dude, you're gonna see

602
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<v Speaker 2>some of these local Joe's right and the next guy's up. Really,

603
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be I mean, this is like baseball. Now,

604
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 2>guys are on the East Coast. You know what they talking.

605
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<v Speaker 2>They talk baseball and Spring the Yankees and I lived

606
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<v Speaker 2>in their talking. I mean, what's the name of the

607
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<v Speaker 2>two guys, Francesca and the other guy. They're talking Spring

608
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<v Speaker 2>training by they're talking double a ball, right, And what

609
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<v Speaker 2>was the movie with with Richard pryor okay, the baseball

610
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<v Speaker 2>team out there? Oh, come on, Porter, suck the bulls, right,

611
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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was. But they're talking to the developmental players.

612
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<v Speaker 2>And so that's where this thing's at now, especially all gambling. Right,

613
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<v Speaker 2>this is it's starting to be a thing now where

614
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<v Speaker 2>it's who's the next stup? Right, people are making their

615
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<v Speaker 2>spreads and doing all that stuff. So we're we're in

616
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<v Speaker 2>the action. Our goal is to send out two or

617
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<v Speaker 2>three players, and we want as me as we can't

618
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<v Speaker 2>to utahn By. You are any school, but those two.

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<v Speaker 1>First Utah Islanders dot com. Hey, before I say you lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris CAMRAADDI was in studio yesterday from the Athletic. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a piece did you know Greg?

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Newman? Did you know Greg Newman? Knew him very well?

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<v Speaker 2>You knew him very well? Eat friends, Okay, John Peel, myself,

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<v Speaker 2>JJ Williams, Christian Cox, myself. I was a freshman, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Greg had just graduated. I wasn't gonna play pro. Greg

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<v Speaker 2>was tight. I was tight with Greg, dude, real tight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to tell you when I read the

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<v Speaker 2>piece it resonated. Ye, something clicked, Okay, something happened. If

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<v Speaker 2>you read the piece. I don't want to give it

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<v Speaker 2>all away, but you can. I'll let you expound. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of those things where when that whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing happened, we were all just stunned, sick and stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel for his family. Let me ask you

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<v Speaker 2>did did uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a tough one because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to paint it like anyone gave up on him, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he was on Weell, at what point did the

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<v Speaker 1>group that you were friends with, as far as being

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<v Speaker 1>tied with him? At what point did you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was the point of Because even if I almost

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<v Speaker 1>cried when I read that his parents brought him Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>dinner in his tent when he was living in a

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<v Speaker 1>tent in California, so even his family at some point

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like, there's really nothing we could do.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point did it feel like, Yeah, the Greg

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<v Speaker 1>that we knew is no longer the Greg that we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him probably my senior year, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw him somewhere and he was a little bit off.

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<v Speaker 2>I offer me he wasn't what he was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>called him, I say, hey, have you talked to Greg?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who I called it, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those people I mentioned and they kind of said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he just seems a little off. But just to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it back, as you said that, I can't help but think,

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<v Speaker 2>what if we had this alumni association better? For sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine? Or if we had to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>and I take responsibility, we should have got it and

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<v Speaker 2>got it done earlier. And you bring this up right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, it just makes me think, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to have a repeat of a Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we mentioned what we all need to

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<v Speaker 2>start meeting, figure some things out. But players, again, I

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<v Speaker 2>talked about healthcare right, having some healthcare right where we

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<v Speaker 2>can afford to take care of a guy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Not all of us are going pro man, and even

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<v Speaker 2>some of those who go pro, you don't get insurance

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<v Speaker 2>unless you play three years, and even then my insurance

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<v Speaker 2>is up. Man, I got twenty years. I'm on my own,

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<v Speaker 2>so my pension kicks in. And so you start thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about guys like Newman, Okay I call them Newman, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes me sick and I wish that this should

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<v Speaker 2>have been done earlier, so all U ex players are

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<v Speaker 2>listening or please send this message out. Please contact pablo'conno

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<v Speaker 2>or Adam Frye at the University of Utaught, Jesse Boone,

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<v Speaker 2>Nate Orchard. We need you to register with us that

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<v Speaker 2>Spence springs up a great point. We can't let this

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<v Speaker 2>happen and we got to take care of each other.