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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course. Uh. Law fair
Speaker 1: is something that the Democrats have been practicing for decades
Speaker 1: against Republicans, and this time at metastasaws, and maybe it
Speaker 1: was the reason that Donald Trump had elected. He's here
Speaker 1: to be sentenced in about two weeks by Judge Juan
Speaker 1: Murshawn and he's eligible. I guess to go to sing
Speaker 1: sing or Rikers Island. God knows what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in two weeks, but many are saying that that case
Speaker 1: will go away. He spent seven weeks in a dirty, dark,
Speaker 1: dingy rad infested New York City courtroom as the Democrats
Speaker 1: metastasized their lawfare against Republicans. A new book is out
Speaker 1: which is fabulous, written by Don Brown. It's Democracy at Gunpoint,
Speaker 1: How the Kangaroo Court exposes prosecutor's plot to hijack the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election and Don Brown God bless him
Speaker 1: as US Navy jag officer and Don Brown welcome again,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and just give the
Speaker 1: American people a brief overview of going back. Many thought
Speaker 1: this is just a recent development of the indictments against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the indictment of his lawyers bringing down forty
Speaker 1: to sixty of his compatriots, the raid on mar Lago,
Speaker 1: the attack on Steve Bannon, etc. Is a long history.
Speaker 1: So don can you tell the American people how this
Speaker 1: began and how it metastasized to where we are today.
Speaker 2: Bill, It's good to be back with you. I've been
Speaker 2: with you before and I'm grateful always to have an
Speaker 2: opportunity to chat. You use the phrase metasticize, and that
Speaker 2: is right spot on. Aren't because the bastardization of our
Speaker 2: precious judicial system by the Democrats has become a cancer
Speaker 2: which they have festered and many of the things that
Speaker 2: you just mentioned about what's happened to the president in
Speaker 2: these kangaroo court prosecutions, which is the title of my book,
Speaker 2: Kangaroo Court. These prosecutions from Florida to Georgia to New York,
Speaker 2: even in Colorado, which was in a prosecution they tried
Speaker 2: to take them off about. These are politically driven and
Speaker 2: they're not legitimate. And so what we've seen with the
Speaker 2: graphic images of FBI agents rating the President's home in
Speaker 2: mar Lago, locking them up, getting a mug shot, all
Speaker 2: these horrible images have brought the issue of these political
Speaker 2: prosecutions to the forefront. But really they go back decades
Speaker 2: into Democrats, and my book goes back really to the
Speaker 2: ka Bailey Hutchinson prosecution and looks at about twenty five
Speaker 2: or so the significant cases where the Democrats have used
Speaker 2: lawfare to attack not only Republican and conservative politicians but
Speaker 2: also average Americans because they want to perpetuate political power. So,
Speaker 2: for example, Ted Stevens in DC, they needed his seat.
Speaker 2: He was a senator from Alaska. They prosecuted him and
Speaker 2: the chapter in my book and got him convicted, and
Speaker 2: six months later they found prosecutor corruption. The judge overturned
Speaker 2: the sentence. The prosecutor committed suicide, but Stevens lost. The
Speaker 2: Democrats took that. They prosecuted Governor Rick Perry of Texas
Speaker 2: simply for vetoing a bill, which he had the right
Speaker 2: to do under the Texas Constitution, which gives him specifically
Speaker 2: they were right in the line in vita, but because
Speaker 2: he vetoed the bill. They prosecuted him. Now it got
Speaker 2: thrown out, but they took it to him anyway. They
Speaker 2: went after time Delay, the former former House Majority leader
Speaker 2: got him convicted because actually he led the impeachment against Bill.
Speaker 2: Clinton went after the NEA and eleven million dollars later reversed.
Speaker 2: And then there's Virginia Governor Bob McDonald reversed the same.
Speaker 2: Jack Smith went after McDonald because the governor accepted a
Speaker 2: gift and reported it, which was perfectly legal under Virginia law.
Speaker 2: A minor gift reported it, and McDonald went, excuse me.
Speaker 2: Jack Smith went after McDonald for extortion of the Hobbsact
Speaker 2: that was reverse eight to zero. This goes back some
Speaker 2: thirty years. And it's not just politicians Bill, you know.
Speaker 2: We know these two cases involving these pro life fathers,
Speaker 2: Mark Hawk out of Philadelphia and Paul Vaughan out of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: both peaceful pro life fathers. The dj went after them
Speaker 2: in retaliation for the Supreme Court decision in Dobb's reversing row.
Speaker 2: And then, of course there's the case of Douglas Mackie,
Speaker 2: the cartoonist who in twenty sixteen does a cartoon lampooning
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton voters as being dumb, and they are. And
Speaker 2: then five years later in two twenty one, the Obama
Speaker 2: excuse me that Biden Justice Farmer prosecutes him. These are
Speaker 2: attacks on the constitution, and so I wrote the book
Speaker 2: in large part, about two thirds of the book goes
Speaker 2: into thumbnail history of these cases that may have been
Speaker 2: the news here and been the news there, but never
Speaker 2: even put together, so we can see exactly how corrupt
Speaker 2: the practice. And I close the book calling board I
Speaker 2: called rogue prosecutor laws. It ought to be against the
Speaker 2: law for a prosecutor like Jack Smith. He's already violating
Speaker 2: the hatchag and I won't go into too much detail there.
Speaker 2: It's already violating for the law. But he ought to
Speaker 2: be prosecuted because this is an attack against the United
Speaker 2: States Constitution. In fact, in the First Amendment, the Fifth Amendment,
Speaker 2: the sixth Amendment, the fifteenth, the nineteenth, and the twenty
Speaker 2: sixties are all amendis solidifying the right to vote. But
Speaker 2: it's an attack on our constitution. It's an attack on
Speaker 2: our constitution.
Speaker 1: Republic.
Speaker 2: Jack Smith, Fanny Willis, alvam Brack ought to be looking
Speaker 2: over their shoulders wondering for subsequent Justice Department is going
Speaker 2: to look at their case to see if it was
Speaker 2: brought primarily for political purposes. Cases brought in the criminal
Speaker 2: justice system primarily for political purposes, those prosecutors ought to
Speaker 2: be prosecuted. And that is the thesis of the book.
Speaker 2: And I hope it does some good deal.
Speaker 1: Don Brown. It'd be wonderful if Donald Trump's Attorney general
Speaker 1: as special prosecutors to look at these Democratic prosecutors and say,
Speaker 1: did they obstruct justice? Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade? And
Speaker 1: what happened in New York City? What happened with a
Speaker 1: prosecutor from the DOJ going into New York City in
Speaker 1: order to his first name is Matthew Calanda. His name
Speaker 1: is Matthew Colangelo, who was put there by the Biden
Speaker 1: administration from Washington to headquarter and a quarterback the assault
Speaker 1: criminally upon Donald Trump. And then also the meetings between
Speaker 1: Fanny Willis his lover Nathan Wade inside the White House
Speaker 1: or a White House council coordinating the attack on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: From Atlanta and then Austin, Texas is a beehive of
Speaker 1: Democratic lawyers going after all those Texas politicians. If the
Speaker 1: shoes on the other foot, it would be a great
Speaker 1: thing to have special prosecutors look at all these Democratic
Speaker 1: prosecutors and say you can't do this anymore. There's no
Speaker 1: indication that's going to happen. In fact, Donald Trump recently
Speaker 1: has said that we need to move on. But whether
Speaker 1: it's Rick Perry, governor of Ted Stevens, or Bob McDonald
Speaker 1: or Paul Vaughan or Mark Halck, Douglas Mackie, it's gone
Speaker 1: on for thirty years now. If the Democrats need a Senate,
Speaker 1: say just indict the guy. Then later on, when it's
Speaker 1: all dismissed, where do I go to get back to
Speaker 1: my reputation. That was Raymond Donnovan's viewpoint during the during
Speaker 1: the Reagan years, and also Scooter Libby, who was an
Speaker 1: assistant to Vice President Dick Cheney. They went after him
Speaker 1: to try to get Dick Cheney when he was in office.
Speaker 1: It doesn't stop, and so how does it stop? When
Speaker 1: does it stop? Answer that, when will it stop?
Speaker 2: It will stop even when we first of all, we
Speaker 2: have to realize the gravity the problem. These are attacks
Speaker 2: upon the US Constitution. When President Trump was in Georgia
Speaker 2: over the summer, and he said it's not me thereafter,
Speaker 2: it's you. I'm sending it. Oh, he's exactly right. They
Speaker 2: went after his attorneys. Fanny Willis indicted Sydney Powell, Jack Smith,
Speaker 2: both of them friends of mine, Rudy and others in
Speaker 2: Georgia because she wanted to go after Trump. So you
Speaker 2: go after his attorneys, and those attorneys were named as
Speaker 2: unindicted co conspirators by Jack Smith and DC. And if
Speaker 2: you think about it, and just think about this bill,
Speaker 2: you're you're much more to stinguish attorney than I am.
Speaker 2: Member of the bar. I'm your big fan. But you
Speaker 2: know that that attorney client privilege is something this Sackle
Speaker 2: was saying in the American jurisprudence system. And if you
Speaker 2: think about it, the attorney client privilege privilege is built
Speaker 2: on two constitutional principles, just built on the fifth Minute
Speaker 2: right against self incrimination and the sixth Amendment right to
Speaker 2: affect the assistance of council. So if I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk to you billion you're my lawyer, I don't be
Speaker 2: able to know if I can tell you things, and
Speaker 2: I have to worry about it, and people poo po, though,
Speaker 2: what do you have to have. Well, look, these Democrat
Speaker 2: prosecutors will use any statement at all, even if a
Speaker 2: person is innocent, to try to prosecute them. So they're
Speaker 2: attacking the attorney client privilege. And if they can get
Speaker 2: away with it here against Trump, you will see them
Speaker 2: roll with it more. Do have to understand this is
Speaker 2: a serious problem. We got to stop it, Donn Brown.
Speaker 1: And this is how the game is played. Attorney client
Speaker 1: privilege generally doesn't apply if there's a criminal act being discussed.
Speaker 1: So under that little bit of an exception, Democratic prosecutors
Speaker 1: all over the country, whether it's Phoenix or or Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: or Landa or New York City will call in the
Speaker 1: attorney in order to testify before a grand jury about
Speaker 1: the lawyer client privilege and whether or not what was
Speaker 1: said the lawyer. What does the lawyer say, I can't
Speaker 1: testify to that because it's lawyer client privilege. They run
Speaker 1: to a friendly judge to order the attorney to testify,
Speaker 1: alleging there was some crime committee the lawyer continual, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to testify. Then the lawyer gets indicted for
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. And then when once you're indicted, that
Speaker 1: your life's over. Yeah, at that whether you win or lose,
Speaker 1: your life is done. You spend a million dollars in
Speaker 1: legal fees, you bankrupt yourself. Then down the road the
Speaker 1: charges might be dismissed. So there's dozens of lawyers that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and diet It all over the country to
Speaker 1: send the message don't represent Donald Trump. Is that the
Speaker 1: way that Democrats play that game.
Speaker 2: That is the way they play the game. I have
Speaker 2: a chapter in my book called the one percent Rule,
Speaker 2: which boils down to this. Only about one percent of
Speaker 2: anyone ever who faces the federal indictment is ac quit.
Speaker 2: Because of the power and the and the force and
Speaker 2: the at dree the ferocity of the federal machinery, it's
Speaker 2: almost impossible. Tom Delay and Bob Donald both had their cases,
Speaker 2: their convictions by the way, their foolish conviitions reversed on
Speaker 2: appeal has never been prosecuted. Tom Delay, it cost him
Speaker 2: eleven million dollars. Bob McDonald, the governor of Virginia, who
Speaker 2: was Catatus Romney's potential running mate, who was viewed as
Speaker 2: the potential rising starting Republican party, cost him twenty seven
Speaker 2: million dollars. Before Sodus reversed his convision. H zero. But
Speaker 2: the average guy you need you know, we can't afford.
Speaker 2: You probably can afford it, Bill, but I can't afford.
Speaker 2: Then you're going to get crushed. They overcharge. You're looking
Speaker 2: at life in prison and said, okay, well I'll take
Speaker 2: the polee just to save my thoff. They went after
Speaker 2: and I discussed this in my book. They went after
Speaker 2: the first two congressman to dorse Trump in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: now twenty seventeen, Hunter and a dozen. Hunter and Chris
Speaker 2: Collins both indicted on well. In Duncan's case it was
Speaker 2: campaign finance stuff. In Colin's case it was you know,
Speaker 2: it was insider efforct. They look for these types of
Speaker 2: they're looking for crime, trying to meet crime to attack
Speaker 2: the person closed association. This is a constitutional attack, is
Speaker 2: what it is. And when you're the real issue here,
Speaker 2: it's what the principal motivation for the prosecution. If it
Speaker 2: is political, that prosecutors should pay a price the tats crime.
Speaker 2: If somebody comes up, you know Andrew, you know you
Speaker 2: had Alexander Hamilton in a duel there and burn and
Speaker 2: burrowound up being charged for murder, that's different. But political
Speaker 2: motivation should be the prosecutor should be held to task,
Speaker 2: and we've got to understand the serious and put the
Speaker 2: current there to stop it.
Speaker 1: Don Brown, the book is Kangaroo Court, And in this
Speaker 1: case with Donald Trump, I can recall specifically in mar
Speaker 1: Lago there were Ninja Warrior FBI US marshals descending upon
Speaker 1: mar Lago. The Secret Service agents who were present were
Speaker 1: told by their bosses, do not inform Donald Trump what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. There were between a rock and a
Speaker 1: hard place. They love working with Donald Trump, but you're
Speaker 1: the Secret Service, so you're told in mar Lago, Trump
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Don't mention this to Trump. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: It's an order from the top of the Secret Service,
Speaker 1: which is the Joe Biden don't know. Here comes the
Speaker 1: blue and here comes the blue and red lights. There
Speaker 1: were rolling vehicles, it was on It was at night,
Speaker 1: so it even looked worse. They went through every drawer,
Speaker 1: through things on the floor, took pictures, went through Millennia
Speaker 1: Trump's underwear drawer, put her clothes on the on the
Speaker 1: carpeted floor, destroyed the place. And Donald Trump comes back
Speaker 1: into that mess and all of a sudden, CNN, NBC, ABC,
Speaker 1: look at it made him look like he was an
Speaker 1: international drug trader. And now here we are. Jack Smith,
Speaker 1: the guy who did all this through Joe Biden and
Speaker 1: Mary Garland, is now saying, well, forget about that, we're
Speaker 1: going to drop all the charges, as if it wasn't
Speaker 1: political to begin with. And Jack Smith is the one
Speaker 1: who brought Jack Smith's the hatchet man for Mary Garland,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. And now two years later
Speaker 1: we out forget about that, No big deal. How does
Speaker 1: the American people get over this continues? How do we
Speaker 1: have a functioning system? And if you're Donald Trump, when
Speaker 1: you have a coordination of attacks, one hundred and twelve indictments,
Speaker 1: eight hundred years in prison, everyone you talk to is
Speaker 1: indict it, They're destroyed financially, and Trump is reelected. How
Speaker 1: does it stop? Don Brown, I feel sorry for lawyers
Speaker 1: put in a position of bankrupting yourself. You're going to
Speaker 1: face years in prison if you don't testify. If you
Speaker 1: do testify, you break the lawyer client privilege. If you
Speaker 1: don't testify, you're going to prison. And after spending a
Speaker 1: one or two or three or four or five million
Speaker 1: dollars personally. Here's the plea deal. Plead to a parking ticket,
Speaker 1: give up your right to sue the government, and most
Speaker 1: lawyers then say I'm done. I have no license, I've
Speaker 1: lost my family, I've lost my bank accounts, I got
Speaker 1: nothing to do. And this is what the Democrats do
Speaker 1: to Republicans regularly. Don Brown, you got me all pissed
Speaker 1: off right now? How do we stop this from happening?
Speaker 2: The United States Congress has to pass rogue prosecut laws
Speaker 2: to make it a selony for any prosecuted to bring
Speaker 2: an action primarily for political purposes. And not just the Congress,
Speaker 2: but the legislatures of the various states must have rode
Speaker 2: prosecutor laws so that if the law or in place,
Speaker 2: Jack Smith would have to be looking over his shoulder. Now,
Speaker 2: from what the Republican and Attorney General asked the question
Speaker 2: for these cases against Trump brought primarily for polical purposes.
Speaker 2: Here the Hatch Act that the Hatch Act says no
Speaker 2: federal employee can take any action to basically, you know,
Speaker 2: interfere in the elation. And DOJ used to have a
Speaker 2: policy they wouldn't bring any actions within a certain window.
Speaker 2: All that could thrown out of the window. This is
Speaker 2: clear evidence of political motivation. Jacksonith should be prosecuted that
Speaker 2: we don't have the laws of the bookshet, but we've
Speaker 2: got to put them on the books, because if we're
Speaker 2: going to protect the Constitution, our Congress must do it.
Speaker 2: Article one puts the Congress in charge of the government.
Speaker 2: Is now, if we especially were able to take control
Speaker 2: back of the House, that's going to happen. This is
Speaker 2: something that has to be prioritized and so something when
Speaker 2: they if they try this junk again, they're going to
Speaker 2: have to face prosecution themselves. That's the only way at
Speaker 2: this point to try and stop it, because everything else
Speaker 2: is mickey mouse. You probably the hatch Ack just spend
Speaker 2: it from the government. You get five thousand lar just
Speaker 2: mickey mouse stuff. So there's nothing in place to stop it. Now.
Speaker 2: There has to be more teeth into federal law and
Speaker 2: state law to go after these rogue prosecutors so they
Speaker 2: don't try it in the future.
Speaker 1: The name of the book is Kangaroo Court Don Brown.
Speaker 1: He comes with the receipts of all the Republicans and
Speaker 1: diet of going back thirty some years, and I am
Speaker 1: certain that there's lawyers and those who want to go
Speaker 1: in the Trump and new administration right now that are
Speaker 1: going to hesitate because of their fear of the next prosecutor,
Speaker 1: the local prosecutor, the Austin, Texas prosecutor, the Atlanta Fanny
Speaker 1: Willis or New York City Alvin Bragg. They're going to
Speaker 1: bring charges against me if I work for the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: or if I want to protest peacefully outside of an
Speaker 1: abortion clinic, that somehow ninja warrior is going to invade
Speaker 1: my home at seven o'clock in the morning and perk
Speaker 1: me out my front door in front of my children.
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that pro lifers like
Speaker 1: Mark Hawk and Paul Vaughan went through because they're on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of politics. I tell you, Don Brown,
Speaker 1: we've only scratched the surface. But the name of the
Speaker 1: book is documenting a thirty year pattern of democratic prosecutor's
Speaker 1: weaponizing the justice system to destroy Republicans and it's work.
Speaker 1: It didn't work this time, the metastasizing took place. Hope
Speaker 1: Donald Trump comes and hope that laws passed. But Don Brown,
Speaker 1: once again, the book is out kangaroo court. Let's do
Speaker 1: it again. Hopefully we don't have to do it again
Speaker 1: and the Democrat prosecutors will learn the lesson. But Don Brown,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham, so only
Speaker 1: scratch the surface. Information is in the book Kangaroo Court.
Speaker 1: Don Brown, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Bill, You're great American.
Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more. How
Speaker 1: about this a coordination of a criminal count indictments against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in four locations, two in state court so
Speaker 1: that he can't pardon himself. Should have got elected and
Speaker 1: now supposedly in a couple of weeks, Donald Trump could
Speaker 1: be that sends the sing singer Rikers Island by a
Speaker 1: Democratic judge. That is a bastardization of America's legal system.
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