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<v Speaker 1>I'm a good woman, babe. To make a good woman steel,

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<v Speaker 2>To make a girl squeeze you. I've hit a I'd

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<v Speaker 2>the bowl, bad of the bowl, bad the bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course. Uh. Law fair

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<v Speaker 1>is something that the Democrats have been practicing for decades

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<v Speaker 1>against Republicans, and this time at metastasaws, and maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was the reason that Donald Trump had elected. He's here

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<v Speaker 1>to be sentenced in about two weeks by Judge Juan

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<v Speaker 1>Murshawn and he's eligible. I guess to go to sing

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<v Speaker 1>sing or Rikers Island. God knows what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks, but many are saying that that case

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<v Speaker 1>will go away. He spent seven weeks in a dirty, dark,

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<v Speaker 1>dingy rad infested New York City courtroom as the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>metastasized their lawfare against Republicans. A new book is out

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<v Speaker 1>which is fabulous, written by Don Brown. It's Democracy at Gunpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>How the Kangaroo Court exposes prosecutor's plot to hijack the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four election and Don Brown God bless him

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<v Speaker 1>as US Navy jag officer and Don Brown welcome again,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and just give the

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<v Speaker 1>American people a brief overview of going back. Many thought

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a recent development of the indictments against

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, the indictment of his lawyers bringing down forty

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty of his compatriots, the raid on mar Lago,

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<v Speaker 1>the attack on Steve Bannon, etc. Is a long history.

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<v Speaker 1>So don can you tell the American people how this

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<v Speaker 1>began and how it metastasized to where we are today.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, It's good to be back with you. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>with you before and I'm grateful always to have an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to chat. You use the phrase metasticize, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is right spot on. Aren't because the bastardization of our

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<v Speaker 2>precious judicial system by the Democrats has become a cancer

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<v Speaker 2>which they have festered and many of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you just mentioned about what's happened to the president in

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<v Speaker 2>these kangaroo court prosecutions, which is the title of my book,

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<v Speaker 2>Kangaroo Court. These prosecutions from Florida to Georgia to New York,

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<v Speaker 2>even in Colorado, which was in a prosecution they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to take them off about. These are politically driven and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not legitimate. And so what we've seen with the

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<v Speaker 2>graphic images of FBI agents rating the President's home in

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<v Speaker 2>mar Lago, locking them up, getting a mug shot, all

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<v Speaker 2>these horrible images have brought the issue of these political

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutions to the forefront. But really they go back decades

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<v Speaker 2>into Democrats, and my book goes back really to the

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<v Speaker 2>ka Bailey Hutchinson prosecution and looks at about twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>or so the significant cases where the Democrats have used

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<v Speaker 2>lawfare to attack not only Republican and conservative politicians but

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<v Speaker 2>also average Americans because they want to perpetuate political power. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Ted Stevens in DC, they needed his seat.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a senator from Alaska. They prosecuted him and

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<v Speaker 2>the chapter in my book and got him convicted, and

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<v Speaker 2>six months later they found prosecutor corruption. The judge overturned

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<v Speaker 2>the sentence. The prosecutor committed suicide, but Stevens lost. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats took that. They prosecuted Governor Rick Perry of Texas

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<v Speaker 2>simply for vetoing a bill, which he had the right

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<v Speaker 2>to do under the Texas Constitution, which gives him specifically

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<v Speaker 2>they were right in the line in vita, but because

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<v Speaker 2>he vetoed the bill. They prosecuted him. Now it got

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<v Speaker 2>thrown out, but they took it to him anyway. They

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<v Speaker 2>went after time Delay, the former former House Majority leader

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<v Speaker 2>got him convicted because actually he led the impeachment against Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton went after the NEA and eleven million dollars later reversed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's Virginia Governor Bob McDonald reversed the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith went after McDonald because the governor accepted a

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<v Speaker 2>gift and reported it, which was perfectly legal under Virginia law.

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<v Speaker 2>A minor gift reported it, and McDonald went, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith went after McDonald for extortion of the Hobbsact

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<v Speaker 2>that was reverse eight to zero. This goes back some

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years. And it's not just politicians Bill, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We know these two cases involving these pro life fathers,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Hawk out of Philadelphia and Paul Vaughan out of Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>both peaceful pro life fathers. The dj went after them

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<v Speaker 2>in retaliation for the Supreme Court decision in Dobb's reversing row.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, of course there's the case of Douglas Mackie,

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<v Speaker 2>the cartoonist who in twenty sixteen does a cartoon lampooning

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton voters as being dumb, and they are. And

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<v Speaker 2>then five years later in two twenty one, the Obama

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me that Biden Justice Farmer prosecutes him. These are

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<v Speaker 2>attacks on the constitution, and so I wrote the book

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<v Speaker 2>in large part, about two thirds of the book goes

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<v Speaker 2>into thumbnail history of these cases that may have been

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<v Speaker 2>the news here and been the news there, but never

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<v Speaker 2>even put together, so we can see exactly how corrupt

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<v Speaker 2>the practice. And I close the book calling board I

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<v Speaker 2>called rogue prosecutor laws. It ought to be against the

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<v Speaker 2>law for a prosecutor like Jack Smith. He's already violating

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<v Speaker 2>the hatchag and I won't go into too much detail there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already violating for the law. But he ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be prosecuted because this is an attack against the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Constitution. In fact, in the First Amendment, the Fifth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth Amendment, the fifteenth, the nineteenth, and the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>sixties are all amendis solidifying the right to vote. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's an attack on our constitution. It's an attack on

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<v Speaker 1>Republic.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith, Fanny Willis, alvam Brack ought to be looking

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<v Speaker 2>over their shoulders wondering for subsequent Justice Department is going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at their case to see if it was

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<v Speaker 2>brought primarily for political purposes. Cases brought in the criminal

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<v Speaker 2>justice system primarily for political purposes, those prosecutors ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be prosecuted. And that is the thesis of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope it does some good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Don Brown. It'd be wonderful if Donald Trump's Attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>as special prosecutors to look at these Democratic prosecutors and say,

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<v Speaker 1>did they obstruct justice? Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade? And

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in New York City? What happened with a

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor from the DOJ going into New York City in

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<v Speaker 1>order to his first name is Matthew Calanda. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Matthew Colangelo, who was put there by the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>administration from Washington to headquarter and a quarterback the assault

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<v Speaker 1>criminally upon Donald Trump. And then also the meetings between

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<v Speaker 1>Fanny Willis his lover Nathan Wade inside the White House

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<v Speaker 1>or a White House council coordinating the attack on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>From Atlanta and then Austin, Texas is a beehive of

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic lawyers going after all those Texas politicians. If the

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<v Speaker 1>shoes on the other foot, it would be a great

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<v Speaker 1>thing to have special prosecutors look at all these Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors and say you can't do this anymore. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>indication that's going to happen. In fact, Donald Trump recently

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<v Speaker 1>has said that we need to move on. But whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Rick Perry, governor of Ted Stevens, or Bob McDonald

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<v Speaker 1>or Paul Vaughan or Mark Halck, Douglas Mackie, it's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on for thirty years now. If the Democrats need a Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>say just indict the guy. Then later on, when it's

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<v Speaker 1>all dismissed, where do I go to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>my reputation. That was Raymond Donnovan's viewpoint during the during

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<v Speaker 1>the Reagan years, and also Scooter Libby, who was an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant to Vice President Dick Cheney. They went after him

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get Dick Cheney when he was in office.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't stop, and so how does it stop? When

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<v Speaker 1>does it stop? Answer that, when will it stop?

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<v Speaker 2>It will stop even when we first of all, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to realize the gravity the problem. These are attacks

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<v Speaker 2>upon the US Constitution. When President Trump was in Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>over the summer, and he said it's not me thereafter,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you. I'm sending it. Oh, he's exactly right. They

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<v Speaker 2>went after his attorneys. Fanny Willis indicted Sydney Powell, Jack Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them friends of mine, Rudy and others in

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia because she wanted to go after Trump. So you

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<v Speaker 2>go after his attorneys, and those attorneys were named as

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<v Speaker 2>unindicted co conspirators by Jack Smith and DC. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, and just think about this bill,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're much more to stinguish attorney than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Member of the bar. I'm your big fan. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that attorney client privilege is something this Sackle

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<v Speaker 2>was saying in the American jurisprudence system. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, the attorney client privilege privilege is built

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<v Speaker 2>on two constitutional principles, just built on the fifth Minute

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<v Speaker 2>right against self incrimination and the sixth Amendment right to

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<v Speaker 2>affect the assistance of council. So if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you billion you're my lawyer, I don't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to know if I can tell you things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have to worry about it, and people poo po, though,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you have to have. Well, look, these Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutors will use any statement at all, even if a

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<v Speaker 2>person is innocent, to try to prosecute them. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>attacking the attorney client privilege. And if they can get

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<v Speaker 2>away with it here against Trump, you will see them

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<v Speaker 2>roll with it more. Do have to understand this is

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<v Speaker 2>a serious problem. We got to stop it, Donn Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is how the game is played. Attorney client

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<v Speaker 1>privilege generally doesn't apply if there's a criminal act being discussed.

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<v Speaker 1>So under that little bit of an exception, Democratic prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country, whether it's Phoenix or or Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>or Landa or New York City will call in the

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<v Speaker 1>attorney in order to testify before a grand jury about

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer client privilege and whether or not what was

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<v Speaker 1>said the lawyer. What does the lawyer say, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>testify to that because it's lawyer client privilege. They run

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<v Speaker 1>to a friendly judge to order the attorney to testify,

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<v Speaker 1>alleging there was some crime committee the lawyer continual, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to testify. Then the lawyer gets indicted for

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<v Speaker 1>obstruction of justice. And then when once you're indicted, that

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<v Speaker 1>your life's over. Yeah, at that whether you win or lose,

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<v Speaker 1>your life is done. You spend a million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>legal fees, you bankrupt yourself. Then down the road the

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<v Speaker 1>charges might be dismissed. So there's dozens of lawyers that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and diet It all over the country to

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<v Speaker 1>way that Democrats play that game.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the way they play the game. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a chapter in my book called the one percent Rule,

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<v Speaker 2>which boils down to this. Only about one percent of

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<v Speaker 2>anyone ever who faces the federal indictment is ac quit.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the power and the and the force and

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<v Speaker 2>the at dree the ferocity of the federal machinery, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost impossible. Tom Delay and Bob Donald both had their cases,

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<v Speaker 2>their convictions by the way, their foolish conviitions reversed on

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<v Speaker 2>appeal has never been prosecuted. Tom Delay, it cost him

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<v Speaker 2>eleven million dollars. Bob McDonald, the governor of Virginia, who

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<v Speaker 2>was Catatus Romney's potential running mate, who was viewed as

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<v Speaker 2>the potential rising starting Republican party, cost him twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars. Before Sodus reversed his convision. H zero. But

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<v Speaker 2>the average guy you need you know, we can't afford.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably can afford it, Bill, but I can't afford.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you're going to get crushed. They overcharge. You're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at life in prison and said, okay, well I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>the polee just to save my thoff. They went after

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<v Speaker 2>and I discussed this in my book. They went after

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<v Speaker 2>the first two congressman to dorse Trump in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>now twenty seventeen, Hunter and a dozen. Hunter and Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Collins both indicted on well. In Duncan's case it was

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<v Speaker 2>campaign finance stuff. In Colin's case it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was insider efforct. They look for these types of

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking for crime, trying to meet crime to attack

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<v Speaker 2>the person closed association. This is a constitutional attack, is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. And when you're the real issue here,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what the principal motivation for the prosecution. If it

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<v Speaker 2>is political, that prosecutors should pay a price the tats crime.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody comes up, you know Andrew, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>burrowound up being charged for murder, that's different. But political

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<v Speaker 2>motivation should be the prosecutor should be held to task,

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<v Speaker 1>Don Brown, the book is Kangaroo Court, And in this

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<v Speaker 1>case with Donald Trump, I can recall specifically in mar

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<v Speaker 1>Lago there were Ninja Warrior FBI US marshals descending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service, so you're told in mar Lago, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>It's an order from the top of the Secret Service,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the Joe Biden don't know. Here comes the

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<v Speaker 1>were rolling vehicles, it was on It was at night,

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<v Speaker 1>so it even looked worse. They went through every drawer,

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<v Speaker 1>through things on the floor, took pictures, went through Millennia

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's underwear drawer, put her clothes on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>into that mess and all of a sudden, CNN, NBC, ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>political to begin with. And Jack Smith is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who brought Jack Smith's the hatchet man for Mary Garland,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. And now two years later

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<v Speaker 1>we out forget about that, No big deal. How does

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<v Speaker 1>the American people get over this continues? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>have a functioning system? And if you're Donald Trump, when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a coordination of attacks, one hundred and twelve indictments,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred years in prison, everyone you talk to is

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<v Speaker 1>indict it, They're destroyed financially, and Trump is reelected. How

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<v Speaker 1>does it stop? Don Brown, I feel sorry for lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>put in a position of bankrupting yourself. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>face years in prison if you don't testify. If you

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers then say I'm done. I have no license, I've

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<v Speaker 1>to Republicans regularly. Don Brown, you got me all pissed

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<v Speaker 1>off right now? How do we stop this from happening?

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<v Speaker 2>The United States Congress has to pass rogue prosecut laws

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<v Speaker 2>to make it a selony for any prosecuted to bring

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<v Speaker 2>an action primarily for political purposes. And not just the Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>but the legislatures of the various states must have rode

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor laws so that if the law or in place,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith would have to be looking over his shoulder. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>from what the Republican and Attorney General asked the question

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<v Speaker 2>for these cases against Trump brought primarily for polical purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here the Hatch Act that the Hatch Act says no

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<v Speaker 2>federal employee can take any action to basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>interfere in the elation. And DOJ used to have a

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<v Speaker 2>policy they wouldn't bring any actions within a certain window.

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<v Speaker 2>All that could thrown out of the window. This is

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<v Speaker 2>clear evidence of political motivation. Jacksonith should be prosecuted that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have the laws of the bookshet, but we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to put them on the books, because if we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to protect the Constitution, our Congress must do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Article one puts the Congress in charge of the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Is now, if we especially were able to take control

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<v Speaker 2>back of the House, that's going to happen. This is

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<v Speaker 2>something that has to be prioritized and so something when

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<v Speaker 2>they if they try this junk again, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to face prosecution themselves. That's the only way at

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<v Speaker 2>this point to try and stop it, because everything else

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<v Speaker 2>is mickey mouse. You probably the hatch Ack just spend

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<v Speaker 2>it from the government. You get five thousand lar just

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<v Speaker 2>mickey mouse stuff. So there's nothing in place to stop it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be more teeth into federal law and

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<v Speaker 1>The name of the book is Kangaroo Court Don Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes with the receipts of all the Republicans and

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<v Speaker 1>diet of going back thirty some years, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>certain that there's lawyers and those who want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in the Trump and new administration right now that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to hesitate because of their fear of the next prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>the local prosecutor, the Austin, Texas prosecutor, the Atlanta Fanny

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<v Speaker 1>Willis or New York City Alvin Bragg. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring charges against me if I work for the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 1>or if I want to protest peacefully outside of an

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<v Speaker 1>abortion clinic, that somehow ninja warrior is going to invade

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the kind of stuff that pro lifers like

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Hawk and Paul Vaughan went through because they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong side of politics. I tell you, Don Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>we've only scratched the surface. But the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>book is documenting a thirty year pattern of democratic prosecutor's

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<v Speaker 1>weaponizing the justice system to destroy Republicans and it's work.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work this time, the metastasizing took place. Hope

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump comes and hope that laws passed. But Don Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, the book is out kangaroo court. Let's do

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<v Speaker 1>it again. Hopefully we don't have to do it again

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democrat prosecutors will learn the lesson. But Don Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham, so only

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<v Speaker 1>scratch the surface. Information is in the book Kangaroo Court.

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<v Speaker 1>Don Brown, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you. Bill, You're great American.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more. How

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<v Speaker 1>about this a coordination of a criminal count indictments against

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump in four locations, two in state court so

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<v Speaker 1>that he can't pardon himself. Should have got elected and

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<v Speaker 1>now supposedly in a couple of weeks, Donald Trump could

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic judge. That is a bastardization of America's legal system.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham with you every day at your home of

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