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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, DJ leaves.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, indeed, welcome in. We are ready to go

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with Connamo condem It is Canelo Weekend in Las Vegas,

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Canelo and Edgar Berlanga. It is the Big Fight Weekend

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preview pod. I'm the somewhat competent host.

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Speaker 1: He is there.

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Speaker 2: He is on scene in Vegas as Thursday afternoon turns

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to Thursday night and it won't be long to Saturday.

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Good to be back with you. You have arrived, You've

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been around all of this. The final press conference. We're

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gettingnapped up for Canelo and Berlango. Welcome listen.

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Speaker 3: I flew out here on Wednesday, like I typically do

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for these fights, and you know what I actually said,

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some good energy on Wednesday. You know, sometimes it's not

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that hyped on Wednesday for the really big fights, say

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really big fights, maybe even a little earlier in the week.

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But you know that I know most people have dumped

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on this fight. And I kind of get it, but

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and I understand that it's because of heel was not

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fighting David Benavidez for example, even at David Morrel for example.

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But if you accept the fact that both those fighters

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have moved up to one hundred and twenty five pounds,

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that from a injury and a health perspective, Benavidez wasn't

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available for this moment anyway, based on what occurred in

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his previous fight. Edgar Berlanga, to me, in the super

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middleweight division is the next best available guy he could fight,

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because I thought this was more interesting than had he fought, say,

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the other guy that was being discussed prior to the

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deal being made, which was Chris hu Bang Junior. So

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I'm not hating on this fight. I mean, is it

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the biggest Canelo fight ever? And I mean we'd be

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less than honest we keep it real here that no,

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the answer is no, it's not. But having been around

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the guys, hearing them all through this promotion, having covered

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in lots of Canelo fights and Berlin, I think this

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is forever long. This thing goes, Berlin is gonna go

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down swinging. If he goes down, it's gonna be a

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fun fight, I believe for as long as it goes.

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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued and we're going to talk about this throughout

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our conversation about the fight and more. Let me set

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the table a little better here. Thank you for finding us.

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rate us and review us. You're gonna hear from Canelo

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Alvarez in a few moments. You were around him post

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press conference getting some extra questions in with the rest

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of the media in the media scrum.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear from him in a couple of moments. Just

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set the scene further though. I realize as we do

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this Thursday evening into Friday, it's not as amped as

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Friday the way in Friday night and Saturday. But set

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the scene a little bit for us here for a

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typical As you said, there seems to be a little

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sizzle here on the Mexican independence Day weekend in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of it, is

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the holiday. A lot of the Mexican fans have turned out, obviously,

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that's the city is kind of consumed by combat sports

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this weekend because besides this event at the Team Obile

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Arena Saturday, MGM is the host, and so there's lots

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of people around. But they also, of course, you know

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what a mile and a half two miles away from

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here a further downtown is the Sphere, which is hosting

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a major UFC Hay perview event also on Saturday night.

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So you know, it's a lot of CoNb in the air,

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if you will. And I know there are some media

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members that are kind of shuttling back and forth between

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doing certain coverage things where they to both events. So

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there's that aspect of it. But look, Canelo fights on

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this weekend, whether you know he's fighting Edgar Berlanga, or

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he's fighting a mega fight, or he's fighting this guy

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or that guy. All I know is that the best

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attraction in boxing, the most popular fighter in the sport,

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the biggest star in the sport, the guy who's been

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down here at We're near the top for the better

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part of you know what, twelve, thirteen, fourteen years, whatever

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it's been. He's an action and you know it's not

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gonna last forever. So I'm gonna I enjoy it, you know,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna take it in like I always do.

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I know, these things, they have a life that doesn't

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go forever. You know. I felt that way when you're

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sort of coming near the end of the Mayweather time,

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or when Manny was fighting, or when Oscar was fighting,

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or when Tyson was fighting. And I've had a you know,

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the privilege to cover all those guys, and I kind

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of feel the same way about Canelo. And now he's

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not old, he's starty four, He's got a lot of

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mileage on those treads. And even though he's been still

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been winning and he's you know, look pretty good. It's

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you know, been a while since he's had a knockout

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number one, it's been a while since he's fought a

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truly top, top level opponent. But that all said, I'm

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gonna enjoy the ride as long as it goes because

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an hour sport, you know, some super Bowl caliber event,

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you know, at least a couple of times a year.

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whether you're talking about and Usick in a theory or

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some other big show. But there's something to be said

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for consistency. I know basically here, I'm coming to Vegas

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for a huge fight.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, and uh and again this has been going

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on with the glovekin fights that you were ringside for

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over and over and over again that he has had.

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Speaker 1: I believe all three of those.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: The third one might not have been, but the first

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two were in September on Independence Day weekend, and so

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they've become events, and we can't convey enough. You are there,

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the proximity obviously to Mexico, southern California, the Mexican population.

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Speaker 3: A big, big, big triple the Triple G. Third fight

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was also on September number seventeenth, same thing. All three

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run on the same weekend, and all three took place

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at the T Mobile.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do have a lineage of him fighting

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there and a big name.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: We could do a lot worse put it this way

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than an unbeaten rising Puerto Rican that can punch. There's

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some questions about whether he can get Canelo's attention with

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the punch. We're gonna find out. I'm intrigued. They're not

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paying us to say this. I'm intrigued though, by what

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this might look like, especially early on in the fight here,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I think. I think this is

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a better fight than the Charlotte fight, who I didn't

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give a prayer to that fight. Now, I'm not gonna

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hear and tell you I'm gonna pick Edgar Berlanga to win, right,

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gonna He's not gonna come into the ring and just

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lay down for a paycheck and just run for twelve

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rounds and not engage. That's just not in his nature.

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happy to be there, take my check and go home

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and not give a damn and not give an effort,

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people mocking the fact that Edgar, you know, he's not

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a true Puerto Rican because he's not born on the island. Well,

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he's Puerto Rican. His parents are from there, and he's

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Rican areas in Brooklyn and he you know, Puerto Rican

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is it's important to him that heritage and so you

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know what he is Puerto Rican. I mean, it is

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what it is. I mean, so this is this is

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a fight that fault into that rivalry type of situation

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that's meaningful to these two guys. Obviously, one thing, and

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predicting a knockout, which he hasn't really done. He says

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he's going to get him. You know, I guess it

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was the eighth round or you know, less it's been.

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you know that he's gonna score the knockout too. I mean,

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obviously both guys, you know, are are feeling I guess,

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you know, like they're gonna they're gonna do some damage.

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going to be able to find a way to land

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the shots. You know, I mean, Canelo hasn't had a

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knockout since twenty twenty one, so it's been a bit.

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the sixteen first round k was the starter career. Then

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he went five fights in a row where he scored

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decision wins, even though in some of those fights, you know,

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damn Nicholson he dropped for could have got a stoppage

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win eight. Jason Quigley a couple of fights ago, stored

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four knockouts again him. I thought that fight should have

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been stopped. He ended up going the distance. He did

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get the knockout street going again when he scored the

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knockout in the earlier fight he had this year when

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Speaker 3: So they're both feeling like they wanted they want to

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do some damage. I mean, you know, Halver is the

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saying eight rounds or less, berlang is saying six rounds.

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you know what I mean. And one thing about Canelo,

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got excellent punching power. You know, I've watched hundreds of

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rounds of Canelo Alvarez fights. Probably i've seen him hurt

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one time. That was like way back when he first

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but it was his first appearance on an HBO pay

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per view under cart he was fighting Miguel Coto's older brother,

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Jose Miguel Coto, and he was a big hyped up prospect.

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of attention, and it's kind of a lot of people's

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first chance to really get a close up look at

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the guy. In the first round, you know, his legs

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are like jelly and almost gets knocked out to survive

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like the last minute or so of the round. And

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of like looking at each other, the other media guys

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like that's the hype and I and I say, since then,

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I've never seen them so much as wobble. This guy's

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been thirty six rounds with Triple G. Is one of

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the greatest punchers of boxing history, and he's been you know,

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in the ring with plenty of other guys that are

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known for a big punching power, Alfredo Wing Gulo and

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James Kirkland and you know, bigger fighters like Sergey Kovalev.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even it's gonna get something earlier this year,

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big knockout guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, something. It's gonna take something very, very impressive to

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really dent that chin. But Berlang has you know, he's

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shown power and we'll see, uh all right, you know

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who knows.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out more obviously as this thing unfolds and

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gets under way Saturday. But before it does that, Canelo

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and Berlanga met with the media and Dan then after

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the press conference portion up on the platform upon the

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DAIS was around Canelo Alvarez and got a couple of

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questions in let's listen to this from midweek here from

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Canelo getting ready to defend again against Edgar Berlanga.

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Speaker 4: This time, I have a legendary fight, no Quoto Orlopkin,

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but they bring me something to the table, So they

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bring me legacy to the table. So I mean, I'm

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talking about that now, and I know you guys always

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want to put if I beat Benaville's you want to

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put other fighter there? And like I said, if the

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money is right in that in that special fight, I

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mean because you know, he don't bring me legacy, He

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don't bring me anything. So if the money is right,

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Speaker 2: What points do you think you bring your legacy outside

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the blanga?

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Speaker 3: What other fights bring you legacy?

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Speaker 4: I don't know right now. There not much people left.

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I fought everybody already, So is.

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Speaker 3: There one eye that comes to mind? Is there one person? No?

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Speaker 1: Just the rematch.

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Speaker 4: B Ball is one of the guys. Uh, I have

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my rematch now to to Like I said, if he

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wins the one seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Un dispute it, do you think it does? I think so?

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Speaker 4: He has the ability to do it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: But the Beer is really strong fighter, so it's gonna

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be hard, but he can do it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: If you say there's nobody like of the big names

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left to fight, good to see it. By the way,

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what is your motivation? Is it money? Is it just

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you enjoy it? Is it something else?

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Speaker 4: I enjoy it? I enjoy I like my routine, being

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in training time. I enjoy all of these. Yeah, put

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more money in my in my account obviously too. But yeah,

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I already did everything.

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Speaker 3: Do you see the end cooming?

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my bed right now. I like I say this Canelo

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bits Canello twenty twenty six, twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: So even fells at your age, with all of the fights,

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over sixty fights, physically speaking and mentally, you still feel

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like as fresh as you did back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel great.

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Speaker 3: What do you what do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 4: I don't know my mental my training, come, I take

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it myself, my body, and and I have more experience

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than I'm doing better every every single time.

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Speaker 2: Or like you know, you don't know what's gonna happen,

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like you did with the Glofkin fight as you do

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heading into this fight.

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Speaker 4: No, you know it's boxing. But I always confident on myself.

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I always confident on my skills, my experience, even in

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development fight. I always confident in everything and every move I.

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Speaker 3: Did.

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Speaker 4: I always I always confident.

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Speaker 3: When you go through all those fights, all these times,

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these big fights, what's your favorite part of the whole

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experience of the fight, way through the.

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Speaker 4: Fight, everything, the feeling of having these kind of fights,

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of the feeling of being from the feeling when I

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walk into the ring in the fine night, that feeling

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needs amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, you were right there for all of this,

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and I like what you said just before we played

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those comments. He doesn't usually come out and say I'm

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looking at knockout here. I'm looking at knockout before the

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eighth round or by the eighth round. That's interesting. That's

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my take. Your take being closer.

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Speaker 3: My take is that he went to distance with Mangia

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in May. I believe very strongly. And he said it

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to some people in not so many words, but it

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was clear. Whether he's telling the truth or not, I

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don't know, but I believe it because I saw it

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with my own eyes him hold the Mongia up in

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the eleventh round when he clipped him with a big punch.

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I believe he carried Mongi in that fight because he

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liked Mangia. He didn't want and he never wanted to

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fight in Mexican. He said that many times, but he

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did it. But he didn't want to embarrass Mangia, especially

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because he liked him in front of the Mexican crowd.

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So he went in there and as soon as he

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had him under control. You know, he let him survive. Basically,

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he's not feeling that way against Berlanga. Not that he's

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got any animosity so much towards Berlanga. They've shown respect

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to each other. But if you can get a knock

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out against a Puerto Rican fighter, trust me, he's gonna

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get a knock out if he can against a perto

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Rican fighter. So I don't believe there's gonna be any

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holding up of and Edgar burlingave he's hurt. So that

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that was you know, I got that feeling. But you know,

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Canelo has been down this, He's been he's been down Uh,

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these types of promotions a million times. Uh. Confident as always. Uh,

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you know, Berlanga seemed a little pretty confident also. I

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mean he's got some swagger to him. He's he's been chirping.

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You know. Listen, once you get into the media center

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and you see the guys up close and you see

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them go face, you can't help it get excited a

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little bit. I mean maybe it's you know, you're in

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the proximity, so you look forward a little bit more

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to the fight than maybe you did before you got

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that chance to be up close. But uh. You know

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Canelo uh com is always in uh and always good

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to talk to.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're excited to see that one. Let's

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go over the rest of the car the co feature

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fight eras Landy Laura and Danny gard for Laura's WBA

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middleweight title. Again, you were around these guys. You've already

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interviewed Danny Garcia previously here on the podcast feed. You've

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been around these guys for the build up here of

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the fight. Are you warming up to this a little bit?

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I know you were rolling your eyes. You're out there

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now not really not really warming up to it. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as I said to you when we first

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discuss this, it's not that I hate the fight. I'm okay.

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The fight's fine, no problem. Two good names, two guys

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have been you know, quality fighters for a long time

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at the championship WELA for quite a while, you know,

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or veterans. You got to respect them for their accomplishments.

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My quarrel with the fight is that it's for the

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middleweight belt. That to me is pathetic and it's not

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a knock on Danny Garcia, and I understand where he's

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coming from. As he said when I spoke to him.

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You know, it's it's a chance for him to create

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an element of history for himself by becoming a three

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division world champion. You know, I don't, I don't. I

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don't knock his desire to do that. I'm not upset

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that he took the opportunity to when offered to him.

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Same thing with Laura. They're both making good paydays. But

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my quarrels with the WBA, which I've had a lot

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of quarrels with for a long time, that they allowed

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this fight to happen now because Danny Garcia and he

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made his case about you know, I've been working hard

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and I've got the you know, the accomplishments I've had,

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and you know, I've seen other fighters skip a line,

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so to speak, and go division and fight for a

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title when they've never fought there before. He mentioned Terrence

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Crawford in particular, who had done the same from walterweight

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to dream miid away. I think it's a little different

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because he was the reigning undisputed champion and considered pound

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for pound by many people, but put that decide, so

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it's really about the belt. But as a matchup, I mean, look,

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La Lara has been was an excellent junior middleweight champ

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for a long time. Now he's been fighting for his

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last few fights in the middleweight division. My problem though, is,

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even though Garcia is a good name, obviously, it doesn't

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have any experience in the weight classes, A much smaller fighter,

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the fighters that he has previously faced in the middleweight

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division when he won the belt and his defense is

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Lara has faced some of the worst opposition in the

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entire sport of boxing in terms of title defenses. Absolutely. Now,

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I get the factors, you're not ever everybody's King Kong.

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I even get the fact that the middleweight division as

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a whole generally sucks right now, but there's no excuse

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for him to have fought There's an absolute direk that

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he has fought in his title defenses. Danny Garcia actually

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probably would beat some of those guys, even though he's

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a smaller guy, because he's a very skilled fighter.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of Garcia, I've always liked Danny. He's

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always been a guy that gave his best effort. I've

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always viewed Danny as a guy that that got more

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out of what that Uh. He was a guy that

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got absolutely the most that he possibly could out of

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his ability. I never viewed him as like the if,

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to put it into parlance, like if you're a baseball scout.

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He never would wow the scouts with like individuals, but

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he could play the game right right, you know what

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I mean, Like you can may a great five tool

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show that you can hit for power and field and

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and and run and all the different things, but you

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might not be able to put it all together. And

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then there's some guys who's not gonna who's not gonna

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blow the doors off when they're running the forty yard

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dash or they're you know, they're they're taking badding practice

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or things that. But you look at him, and they

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watched them go out and do their job, and they

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can fucking play baseball.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Danny Garcy is not going to wow any boxing scout.

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But Danny Garcia, you can fight, and so you always

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have to respect that. Now, Kenny handle one hundred and

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sixty pounds, He's coming off the two year layoff. He's

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never really had but one fight above one hundred and

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forty seven pounds, and it wasn't really that good of

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a performance against Jose Denavidez junior, who was not exactly

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a superstar contender. You know, I do have my questions

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about that. And even though Lara is into his forties now,

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he's forty one years old, and even though he's been

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fighting terrible opposition, he's been knocking them out. You know,

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as we talk about, you know, if you're going to

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be facing lesser opposition, at least do what you're supposed

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to do. And that's Joven guy. And so Lara has

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been doing that. And Lara is a very skilled fighter,

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a very talented guy, you know, great amateur fighter, been,

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like I said, a top professional for a long time.

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And so that's that matchup.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: If Danny can win the fight, it is a big

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deal for him because he will get that third belt.

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And when I was writing my story about him and

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had did the interview with him recently and I was

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looking over as record, I mean, he really does have

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a superb resume in terms of his accomplishments at junorman welterweight.

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Slightly less so as a welterweight where he had his

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ups and downs, but you know, as he said, even

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in the fight he lost against Keith Thurman, for example,

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he was really proud of that effort because it was

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a really close fight. Keith was undefeated, he was jumping

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in against one of the top guys, and you know,

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and and some and sometimes you know, maybe he would

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have got the decision that night. Now, that was a

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hell of a fight. So you know, I'll respect the Garcia,

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I respect Laura, I just I'm just disappointed of the

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selection of the opposition that has been facing. And keep

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in mind, it's not Laura that's making the pick, it's

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his people that make the pick.

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Speaker 2: But still though, I mean the whole the Shenanigans of

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the WBA and who they let him fight to keep

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the title, and Premiere Boxing Champions put him in there

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with better people. TGB Promotions put him in there with

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better people. At least this is a name, But I

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totally agree with the argument. The guy's primarily been a

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welterweight and has been off for a couple of years.

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Now moving up to one sixty, what will that look like?

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In the co feature you and I will actually handicap

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not only the Canelo Berlanga fight, but also this Garcia

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Lara fight on our bet Us show Friday at one

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Eastern time. Dan from Vegas one Eastern ten Pacific live

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on the bet US platforms will give you a little

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more handicapping all right, round out the card, because I

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would I would sum it up this way. We have

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a we have several former champions who are in action,

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and I think most people look at the competition and go,

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who are the guys that they are fighting? Caleb Plant,

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Roly Romero, Stephen Fulton, all former champions and and again

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we're wondering about the opposition. You would know better than most.

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All right, what about the rest of the undercard.

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Speaker 3: Well, the next fight below, the next fight down the

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card after the mine before we see the fight between

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Laura and Varci, is the return of Caleb Plant and

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he is to be fighting. He'll be fighting for or

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He'll be fighting an undefeated fighter named Trevor McCombe. They

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will be fighting for a title, if you want to

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call it that. I mean, we're going to get back

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to my nonsense with the WBA. They will be fighting

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for the WBA Interim Superin Away title, which is driving

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me crazy because they're not supposed to be doing intern

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titles anymore. But the WBA does WBA things, as we say,

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So for Plant, this is a chance to try to

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shake off the loss that he had in March of

473
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twenty twenty three. So he's coming off more than a

474
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year layoff against you know, he lost that fight against

475
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David Benavidez, which is the hello fight really took.

476
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Speaker 2: He took a lot of punishment in that day. There's

477
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some questions.

478
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Speaker 3: So he is he is returning from that fight after

479
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a long layoff. He's fighting mccomby. And this is the

480
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wild thing about McCombe. McCombe is a fighter who is

481
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twenty eight and oher with twenty one knockdowns, who has

482
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been around I feel like for every term pro in

483
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twenty ten, and I remember back around that time frame

484
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he was managed for a long time by Cameron Nuncan,

485
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the longtime manager who passed away not that long ago.

486
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And Cameron and I would talk a lot and he

487
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would always give me updates on his young fighters. He

488
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was very big into the amateur scene and always would

489
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sign you know, good amateur fighters by guys that were

490
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sort of diamonds in the row, for guys that didn't

491
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cost a ton of money, that weren't the Olympic medal

492
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winners anyway. He had McCombe, and he's coming along and

493
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he just sort of disappeared. He had some troubles at

494
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the outside the ring, the NFL drug test. But the

495
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bottom line is, in a career that began in twenty

496
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ten and here right now in twenty twenty four, a

497
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long career, he has never fought anybody of consequence. So

498
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he's got a beautiful looking record, and he looks at

499
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he's in excellent condition, and he's taken on kayleb planet,

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and to me, it is such an unknown quantity of

501
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how he's going to perform against a bigger name, a

502
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top level guy, And you know, you still have to

503
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call him the question with Plant because he has had

504
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a long layoff he had. You know, he did take

505
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some some punishment in that fight with Bena. Viteci obviously

506
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got you know, a couple of years earlier to get

507
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a big knockout loss against Canelo, which incidentally is the

508
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last time Canelo scored a knockout in that twenty twenty

509
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one fight. So in terms of that fight, I mean,

510
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don't I don't know if I can be super excited

511
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against a guy who's finally stepping up after a fourteen

512
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year career. I have to believe there's a reason why

513
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he hadn't before. So that's that fight, and then you

514
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mentioned the other fights. You know, Roley Romero is also

515
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coming off of a pretty rough loss. He got knocked

516
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out in a you know, a terrible performance in my opinion. Uh,

517
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you know, I've never really thought much of his game

518
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to begin with. But Isaac who took him to school

519
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and beat the ship out of him back in in

520
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March of this year. So he's coming back, you know,

521
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good for him. He's fighting a fighter named Manuel Jaimes

522
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who is not particularly well known, not particularly accomplished. I'm

523
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not knocking him. I just am not that familiar with him.

524
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He has no real particular big wins of consequence on

525
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his record at all. Uh, you know, we'll see. I

526
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mean I think that roll these fights be quite are

527
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boring for the most part. You know, people talk about

528
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how great Raley. They like him because he talks shit

529
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and he makes a lot of noise outside the rank,

530
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but when the bell rings, he gives you very little.

531
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He doesn't throw a lot of punches, he doesn't make

532
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exciting fights. You know, he's pretty one dimensional.

533
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Speaker 2: Recent past, he fought poorly against Boroso and was given

534
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a gift stoppage right and then and then Gervonte Davis

535
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000
you love my words, eradicated him with one inch in

536
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a main event fight. I agree with you that there

537
00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,640
hasn't been a lot of substance to rolling Romero besides

538
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,839
the hype and the great talking in the press conferences.

539
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Speaker 3: Now Rowley to me is way more sizzle than stake

540
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,119
always has been. Now that those are the pay per

541
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review fights, there are also three bouts on Prime Video

542
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for free prior to the pay per view Stephen Fulton

543
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,440
will fight in the final bout of that. Like he's

544
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the quote unquote main event of the preliminaries, if that

545
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,960
even makes sense. And Fulton is a really good fighter.

546
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And Fulton, though unfortunately he's been caught up in lack

547
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,359
of PBC dates and you know that shit goes. So

548
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he's been out of the ring now for fourteen months.

549
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He has not fought since he got stopped when he

550
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went to Japan to defend. At the time, he had

551
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the two of the titles of WBO and the WBC

552
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titles at one hundred and twenty two pounds and Noya

553
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in a way knocked him out to win those belts.

554
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He got dominated stopped in the eighth round and in

555
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a way of course, went on to beat to Polis

556
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to unify the way class and then move up and

557
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wait or rather to continue to defending the title rather

558
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and so Fulton has changed training teams. He's been a

559
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little vocal about being off as long as he had.

560
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He wanted to come back earlier. It's not like he

561
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was looking to take this crazy long layoff. So he's back.

562
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He's moving up to the featherweight division that's obviously significant,

563
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and he's taken on a fighter and then Carlos Cashro,

564
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who's got a great record at thirty and two and

565
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has fought some pretty solid guys, even if not big names.

566
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His one probably claim to fame it people know who

567
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he is are the two fights he had against the

568
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known commodities. He lost a split decision against Luis Neary

569
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in twenty twenty two. He got stopped by Brandon Figueroa

570
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in also later in twenty twenty two, and those are

571
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obviously two guys who are among the better fighters you know.

572
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Between one twenty two and one twenty six. To fight

573
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with near he was one hundred and twenty two pounds.

574
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The FIGUREA was at one hundred and twenty six pounds,

575
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and he's won. He's won three fights since then, and

576
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,880
now he's taken on Fulton, So this seems like, actually

577
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,720
on paper, like a pretty decent fight. There's a lot

578
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of questions about what Fulton's got at the new weight class,

579
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with a new trainer, coming off a loss, coming off

580
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a layoff, but Fulton's a classy fighter, a good boxer,

581
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and you know, I hope he can find his way back.

582
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,400
Cashow was able to overcome those losses against the better

583
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,319
names and cash in against a good name like Fulton

584
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than good for ends. So that's a free fight for

585
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,519
what that's worth than the other fights we talked about,

586
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those of the pay perview fights.

587
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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of pay per view, excellent segue right there.

588
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As we get ready for Saturday night and what's gonna

589
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happen with Canelo and Berlanga, let's find out more from

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to have you back aboard. I know as we're doing

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this you're in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure. You to make sure Rayfhael.

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Speaker 2: Was behaving at dinner midweek or was Rayfield trying to

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make sure that PPV dot Com was behaving. I don't

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think that's the case, but I'm glad everybody survived and

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now we're.

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Speaker 5: Headed towards Saturday night and the fight's. Good to have

606
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,240
you back, Mark, Yeah, thanks for having me. I was

607
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,160
planning on coming in later in the week, but when

608
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I heard that and going out, I have to fly

609
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in early and make sure.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a tremendous line. I can't put up with

611
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him all the time and be concerned for him all

612
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the time. Somebody else we have to delegate on this.

613
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,920
We love Big Dan and look, he's out there for

614
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,839
Canelo and this is a big event. Yet again on

615
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,599
Mexican Independence Day, over and over again, he has fought

616
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,559
either Cinco de Mayo, Mexican Independence Day or both over

617
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and over again.

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Speaker 1: It's back again for this weekend. Just overall.

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Speaker 2: I know we're building to Saturday, but this is a

620
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,319
big deal. It will be a big deal as Friday

621
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becomes Friday night and into Saturday, that Canelo is back

622
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,680
in Vegas on Mexican Independence Day weekend.

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Speaker 5: It is and putting aside right now the opponent, Canelo

624
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,200
has obviously slipped into that Mayweather role of taking over

625
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,680
the May and September dates and go to my own

626
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,559
Mexican Independence weekend. And you know, I can tell you

627
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,359
from having been to dozens and dozens of these, it's

628
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,319
still a big deal, certainly here in Vegas, right, It's

629
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,039
a big deal. Canelo kind of takes over the town

630
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,920
here and on pay per view, it remains a really

631
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,079
big event weekend for the industry whenever Canelo fights, and

632
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:35,039
this weekend I know will be no exception. Irrespective of

633
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,799
the odds and people's opinion of opponents and all that,

634
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:40,759
it's still an event.

635
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Speaker 3: It's still a big pay per.

636
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: View and he is a tremendous draw in that region

637
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,559
and has been really for going back ten years ago

638
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:50,720
since he fought Floyd Mayweather and building forward with the

639
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,640
triple G fights, et cetera. You mentioned Edgar Berlanga is

640
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,039
the opponent here and maybe, look, they don't pay me

641
00:28:58,079 --> 00:28:58,519
to say this.

642
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Speaker 1: I'm not in his camp, with his her or whatever.

643
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: I believe young up and coming and this is intriguing

644
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,640
because he can punch young an up and coming fighter

645
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,799
that can punch here. I may be in a minority

646
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,039
camp here that this might be a little more compelling

647
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,319
than what some think it is. What's your thought on

648
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:18,680
that about Berlanga as the opponent?

649
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: So I agree, I think that opinion that I have

650
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,759
I share with you. But my opinion lasts for the

651
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:29,240
first few rounds, and if Berlanga is not able to

652
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,319
do anything in those first few rounds, I think it's.

653
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Speaker 3: Going to be a long night for him.

654
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 5: Knowing his knockout artistry, knockout specialty, especially earlier in his career,

655
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you know he's got it in him. But if he's

656
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000
not able to do that in the first few rounds,

657
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,039
I don't see him being able to do that later

658
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:46,720
on in the fight.

659
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Speaker 3: But we know he's a puncher.

660
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Speaker 5: This is a sport where you've just got a puncher's chance, right,

661
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,319
and he's got that, so I think it'll be an

662
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,680
intriguing start to the show for sure.

663
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,799
Speaker 2: One other variable, he's not been on a stage anything

664
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,039
like this, and Canelo's been on it for a decade,

665
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,240
as I mentioned, for twenty fights. He's been on these

666
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,480
kind of stages. That is obviously an advantage. I mean,

667
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no matter what I mean, we should talk to sport

668
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like you can try to prepare all you want for

669
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stepping out on an NFL football field, for example, to

670
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cross over sports and get ready to play a game,

671
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especially like a game in prime time on Sunday night

672
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or Monday night football. If you're a rookie, until you

673
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,519
do it, Mark, you know this, it is not the

674
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same thing.

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Speaker 1: Is what you've been doing in.

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Speaker 2: College, whatever level of college, et cetera. It's the same

677
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:34,079
kind of thing for Berlinga. And you wonder how he

678
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,720
handles the wow factor, the whole event when they strike

679
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up the mariachi band and the whole bit. That's going

680
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
to be interesting and important for him to be able

681
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to handle all that right.

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Speaker 5: One more time, it is absolutely and listen to further

683
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emphasize your point. When you look at you know, an

684
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,039
NFL player going on the field or a rookie baseball

685
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player going on the field. This is boxing. This is

686
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one on one mano amano. So those emotions you're talking about,

687
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I think are magnified even more in the boxing ring,

688
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which part of the beauty of the sport.

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Speaker 3: It's truly one on one.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's something too that we have to

691
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:07,000
watch with prolonger. Really early in the fight is how

692
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,759
is he handling that pressure? It's all on him. If

693
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,839
he makes a mistake, there's no teammate to pick him up.

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Speaker 2: Great insight on that, and it's different when you're about

695
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,000
to get hit potentially, so we shall see on that

696
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,880
all right. So speaking of getting hit, we got a

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lot of action on this pay per view, and as

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we always like to say, we want them to use

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less a year long subscription to any outlet. They just

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have to purchase this fight through PPV dot com mark

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: You know, we loved touting the service because we think

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We've got our chat, We've got a few other things

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that we're gonna be doing, so it's not just by

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the stream and watch it. You can do that if

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you want, but there's also some other things that are

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going to be fun to participate.

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Speaker 2: And again you get this fighting Crystal Clear ten eighty

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so many years, is in the chat, Lance Pugmeyer, who

718
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does a tremendous job writing it as an insider of

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I love them for the inside, all four of those

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And we should mention there's potentially a really cool surprise.

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724
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really cool surprise, and they gotta find out. They got

725
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to tune in if the surprise come. How did I

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do on my vague teas?

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742
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743
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for them. That's not the surprise. But the potential surprise

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is interesting in the live chat. If it comes to

746
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they gotta tune in. They got to tune in it,

747
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all right, Canelo Berlanga coming up on Saturday night, Mark,

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last July. But as Mark Bocarti was saying, you guys

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we had a beautiful dinner at the Bolagio. And you

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miss it, bro.

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All right, let's get into some news and then some

785
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some tremendous nostalgia for September and in and around this time.

786
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All right, Rayphaiel, we can't have good things. We got

787
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,360
Shakur Stevenson lined up to be on this ri odd

788
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season card coming up in October that is headlined by

789
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Archer Better biv Dmitri Beebel in the undisputed light heavyweight

790
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title fight. Until we don't now he had an injury.

791
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Tell me, tell me more, because this came to light

792
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midweek here in Vegas.

793
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Speaker 1: What's the latest?

794
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: So on Wednesday, Shakur, who was preparing a fight against Cordina.

795
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He's been training in Colorado Springs, where he often trains

796
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in the Olympic Training Facilli. He was sparring and he

797
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,920
had a right he heard him a tore a tendon

798
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in his right hand, like near his knuckle, and they

799
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basically took him into like immediate surgery. So he posted

800
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a photo on his Instagram with him in the hospital

801
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,519
after the surgery, and you know, his team put out

802
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:54,559
a statement Eddie Hearn, who's here in Las Vegas, who

803
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,480
I saw yesterday? Who's here because he's the promoter for

804
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Edgar Berlanga was speaking to the media a little bit

805
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about what was going on with Shakur and it's disappointing

806
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,280
because this was his first fight. He had signed with

807
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,320
Mattroum after he became a free agent in the summer

808
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,039
from top rank. Eddie had made the introduction between Shakur

809
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,079
and Turkey al Chic when they work together and all

810
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,960
together in Los Angeles at the Terrence Crawford card. You know, uh,

811
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Shakur is very close friends with with Crawford. Crawford actually

812
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,639
been helping him train and prepare him for the fight. Anyway, listen,

813
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,559
boxing injuries happening. He's got got a bad right hand,

814
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,239
He's got to have the surgery had to take care of.

815
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He's gonna be out of the you know, out of

816
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out of training. Anyway. They're saying six to eight weeks

817
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and that they expect him to be able to fight

818
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again come February. Now, the question I have is are

819
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,360
they going to reschedule the Cordina fight. It I seem

820
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440
to doubt that based on what's kind of been coming out.

821
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,719
It feels like he's gonna jump right to the to

822
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,960
the fight against the mandatory, which is William Zapeta, which

823
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,800
is no knock on Cordina, but that's a real exciting interest.

824
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,559
We would have absolutely, so, you know, the the original

825
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,920
plan was do Cordina and then Zapeta and then Zepaida's

826
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gonna have an intern fight and then do Shakur Uh.

827
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,320
Zepeta will still but it looks like Chakor will be

828
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off uh until February, and then they'll try to make

829
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that match presumably, you know, I don't know we'll be

830
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in February, but let's say, you know, in that timeframe

831
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where we'll see that fight and Or. I guess it's

832
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possible that that Chaquer will take another fight and then

833
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:17,760
do this a pain of mandatory, but that's you know,

834
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,360
then it will become a question with the organization, you know,

835
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what what will the WBC's perspective be on that. I mean,

836
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they want to get the mandatory, but they have the relation.

837
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,519
Speaker 2: Has been number one this calendar year. So now you're

838
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,119
theorizing we're in the next calendar year. Sooner or later,

839
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:33,159
will they will they order?

840
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Speaker 3: And again how they they? They allowed they allowed them

841
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to work a deal where both guys can take in

842
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,920
and fights. I mean the WBC, you know they're they'll,

843
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,320
they're open, they're more open minded for things like that.

844
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Then let's say the IBM.

845
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Look, I have fun with this, and I know you're

846
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,800
around Mauricio Suliman out there even as we speak this weekend.

847
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,119
They let Jermal Charlow keep the WBC Middleway title for

848
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,960
three years without having to fight anybody, basically for the

849
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,679
last two years. Uh so we'll see what they do there.

850
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,880
I'm just concerned with the hand injury. In your experience

851
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,000
covering this, I mean, this seems significant tendon surgery on

852
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:10,719
the hand that's gonna lay him up for a while.

853
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,239
It's got to be a bit of a concern, right.

854
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,079
Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything significant. I mean six to

855
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,719
eight weeks, I mean hand injuries happened like every day practically.

856
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,360
Certainly not the first guy to have a tendon problem

857
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,639
or an injury on his hand, you know, he'll get

858
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:26,159
it taken care of him, do the proper rehab and

859
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:27,880
come back. And you know what, a lot of times

860
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,599
the guys get the hand injuries that it does cause

861
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:34,519
problems down the road. Are the guys who are big punchers.

862
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,280
You know, if there's a silver lining, Shaquor is not

863
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,159
a big puncher, So he's not a guy that relies

864
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,800
on that power from that hand, so he can sell

865
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,920
box even if the hand's not perfect. But I suspect

866
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,519
he'll be back back in gear and they'll be okay.

867
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,800
I mean, as long as Shaquor has been a pro

868
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,480
at least off the top of my head, anyway, I

869
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,519
can't maybe there's something I'm just forgeting. I don't remember

870
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:56,719
having any kind of major injury before that. Sun.

871
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,599
Speaker 2: I remember he in the Dello Santo's fight. He had

872
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,239
a shoulder problem or something. The claim in that yea.

873
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:02,519
Speaker 3: But he still he still had the fight and he

874
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:04,199
didn't need surgery. It was just you know, had a

875
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,159
heel up. But I'm talking about something that was more significant.

876
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:09,880
So look, you know, rest up and as as Eddie

877
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,519
Hearn said when he made his comments. You know, he'll

878
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,119
return in the early part of twenty twenty five and

879
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,239
uh hopefully he'll get uh you know, he'll be ready

880
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,880
to go and then it's uh, they'll still have the

881
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:22,880
opportunity to do the fight with Zepaita, which is a

882
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,079
pretty big fight. And like I said, like Eddy said,

883
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:26,679
back to work as soon as possible. And in terms

884
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:28,440
of what your court had to say about it, uh,

885
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,760
you know, he talked about how he was you know,

886
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:32,159
his publicist put out a statement from Chakor about it

887
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:35,119
that uh, you know, he's disappointed about it. He was

888
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,760
looking forward to going to Saudi Arabia doing the fight.

889
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Obviously he's gona make a lot of money for that fight. Uh,

890
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:41,239
but he's got to listen to the doctor, get the

891
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,039
the situation fixed and uh, you know, life goes on.

892
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Injuries do happen. All right. I love this. Uh.

893
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:51,679
Speaker 2: The reports have been out there that Travante Davis was

894
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239
going to be back in the first week of November,

895
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,000
November two.

896
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: A man.

897
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: Rayfield's like, ah no, no, no, wait a minute, wait

898
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,639
a minute, I've done some reporting on this.

899
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,199
Speaker 1: Not true, not correct.

900
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Tell me more about what you found out about when

901
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,599
we might see Tank Davis again.

902
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: So, just for the record, I was not one of

903
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,599
the people that reported November second as the return date

904
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,480
for Tank Davis. It was rumored there were some people

905
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,239
that literally just wrote Tank Davis is fighting on November second,

906
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000
And the reason why they wrote that was because it

907
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:21,400
is true that TGB Promotions had sought that date on

908
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000
the agenda for a a Nevada State Athletic Commission meeting.

909
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:26,840
But what a lot of some of those reporters don't

910
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,440
understand is that promoters, not just TGB, but lots of promoters,

911
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,440
they seek dates because they're trying to get venues locked down,

912
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,519
and they don't necessarily go on that date or in

913
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:37,519
that location.

914
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:41,599
Speaker 2: That happened to always follow through on that specific date,

915
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:42,039
right Yeah.

916
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,599
Speaker 3: I mean I'll give you a perfect example. I mean

917
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:47,400
Top Rank, like I just been with TGB, Top Rank

918
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,840
had put a request in for a date in uh

919
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,000
I think it was. I can remember with the Ambertimobo

920
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:56,320
some venue in Vegas for a fight card around Thanksgiving

921
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,440
this week this year. But that's not happening. I mean,

922
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,880
they do that on a regular basis, all the promoters do,

923
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,440
So that was in my opinion, it was inaccurate reporting

924
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,760
because it wasn't. They didn't flesh out and say you

925
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,079
know they All you got to do is say, you know,

926
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,039
it's possible. And here's why. Here's the reality. As I'm

927
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,559
here and I'm speaking to the PBC people and and

928
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480
to TGB people and people around who are involved with uh,

929
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,280
with these broad things, it was said to me one,

930
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,039
Tank Davis is not fighting November second, and that PBC

931
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,320
is not doing an event, at least a pay per

932
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,039
view event anyway on November second. And the way that

933
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,000
that even was broached was because in my mind, if

934
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,880
you were gonna do that event, alright, I'm to say

935
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,679
my first rodeo, there would probably have been a press

936
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:46,159
conference schedule for Saturday right here, right, perfect example when

937
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,360
we came for the fight, uh that they when I

938
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,960
forget what fight it was, but maybe it was like

939
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:51,920
it was when it.

940
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Was it was Canelo and Mangia, right and the right exactly.

941
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: So that's the normal course of business. When the companies

942
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,480
got another big event a month or two or whatever

943
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,719
down the road, and all the media is in one spot,

944
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:06,039
and they've got the pressroom set up and they've got

945
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:08,039
everybody there and they've got their cameras and all things

946
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239
you do the press covers, but there's been nothing and

947
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
that ain't happening. So it was explained to me the

948
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,360
following way. If Tank decides he wants to fight again

949
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,239
this year, and there's some question whether he will fight

950
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,039
again this year, the dates that they're looking at, and

951
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,519
again nothing is set in stone. The locations are set

952
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,360
in stone. They do have buildings on hold for different dates,

953
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,119
but they're talking about November twenty third, the week before Thanksgiving,

954
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:35,159
or possibly December fourteenth, which is the December fourteenth, kind

955
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:39,119
of the last day they can do anything for that level,

956
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,840
because they're certainly not going to go on December twenty first,

957
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,280
which even though it would be later in the day,

958
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:46,199
they're not going on the same day that the Heavyweight

959
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,360
Championship rematch is happening between Fury and Usick, which has

960
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360
already been on the counter for a while. So we'll

961
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,800
have to see.

962
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: Now.

963
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: I do believe there'll be some other PBC events this year.

964
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,679
There may even be another pay per view in November

965
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,800
on that date, even if it's not a Tank, it's like,

966
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,360
because Benavitez is still coming back, you know, there may

967
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,559
be a fight with David Morrell in Minnesota that's not

968
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:08,800
a pay per view, But in terms of Tank himself

969
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:11,000
totally up in the air. You know, they also have

970
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,280
problems with opponent, like they don't know who he's going

971
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,400
to fight. I think it was pretty clear that had

972
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,880
Pittbull Cruz won against Valenzuela, they would have done the rematch.

973
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,280
So valan Zuela certainly would be a possible opponent if

974
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,519
Tank is willing to go up to one hundred and

975
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:25,000
forty pounds, and that's like a pretty good fight. I

976
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,199
don't know how big of a deal that is commercially.

977
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,880
And the only other name I've even heard mentioned whispered

978
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,480
broached at all for Tank would be for him to

979
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,000
fight Lamont Roach, who was the WBA's one hundred and

980
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,280
thirty pound champion. Who would you know, have to come

981
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,639
up and wait and fight in Tank's wake. Lass Now

982
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,559
that is again, I don't think that's that big of

983
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,880
a fight. It's you know, it's also at least if

984
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,679
you're fighting Valenzuela, you're fighting a Mexican American, so there's

985
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,159
that audience. You have an East Coast fighter like Tank,

986
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:57,280
a West Coast fighter like Valenzuela. If you're fighting Lamont Roach,

987
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,039
you know you're fighting another African American is from the

988
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:03,159
East Coast. You're you're fighting. It's within the same you

989
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,519
know category in terms of the group of people that

990
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:08,360
are gonna be most interested. I mean from my perspective

991
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,880
because I live in the Washington, DCA area. You got

992
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440
Baltimore against Washington. That's like my home area. So it's

993
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,039
Tank from Baltimore against Roach from DC, and there'd be

994
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,119
probably a lot of local interests in that fight. He

995
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,519
probably do. Really, they could do another five million dollar gate,

996
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:26,440
probably at a place like the UH where you the

997
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,199
Capital One Arena where he fought Hector LEAs Garsia. I'm

998
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:31,679
just not sure that translates to a national audience. I

999
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:34,159
actually where the real money is on paper use. So

1000
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,480
you know, those seem to be the logical fights that

1001
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,039
Tank would have if and when he does decide to fight.

1002
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,039
But it ain't gonna be November second, as the bottom line.

1003
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,639
Speaker 1: That was just going right there. You don't have that, Okay.

1004
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: What we do have, though, is an announcement a couple

1005
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,920
of weeks later for November sixteenth, officially that it is

1006
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:56,480
Zerdo Ramirez Chris Billum Smith for the unified WBA, WBO

1007
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:01,840
cruiserweight belts and some other solid fights that are with

1008
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,400
this on the undercard. So tell me more about that

1009
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,360
coming about as part of the read season card in November.

1010
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: So we had spoken about this as this was in

1011
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,719
the works. I had written about it, A couple of

1012
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,239
people had written about it. This is last week, but

1013
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,719
the deal's now done. They're really great thing about this

1014
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,639
besides the fact that Billan Smith against Ramirez, that's a

1015
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:20,280
good fight. I mean, if you if you look at

1016
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,760
the cruiserweight division, it's very clear at this moment in

1017
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,159
time that it's Opataia who's the IBF champion and also

1018
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,639
the lineal champion. He's number one, and he's got a

1019
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:29,320
fight coming up on a on a READ card also

1020
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,760
against Jack Massey. But that the next two guys are

1021
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,760
Zerdo Ramirez probably and Billan Smith. I mean, two guys

1022
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,679
who are uh, you know, more known. Zerdo looked good

1023
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,480
when he won the title earlier in the year. He

1024
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,440
got Dylan Smith, who's now made a couple of defenses.

1025
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,039
He's coming up that win to avenge his loss against

1026
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,280
ri Ka pore So anyway, they're going to meet to

1027
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,599
unify the titles. And the great thing about it, besides

1028
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:50,760
the fact we're going to I'm gonna go over some

1029
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,199
of the other fights that they announced for the card. Turkey,

1030
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,360
al Chic and Oscar de Lay doing this card together.

1031
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,920
It's a Golden Boy. They're calling it like Read Season

1032
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,719
Latin Night. It's gonna take place in Arabia, but not

1033
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,840
pay per view. As Turkey said, this is going to

1034
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,599
be free. They didn't announce a broadcast platform. I have

1035
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,440
to assume, you know, it's gonna be on his own

1036
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,239
as a regular subscription card. But that Turkey is gonna said,

1037
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,840
he put in his own social media posts that will

1038
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,840
make it developed to any broadcaster that wants to pick

1039
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,320
it up. Have your people contact my re ed Season

1040
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,360
office and we'll work it out so it wouldn't shock me.

1041
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,360
Besides his own. Maybe he gets picked up by Prime Video.

1042
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Maybe he gets picked up by ESPN Plus if they're

1043
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,920
not charging money for it. Maybe he gets picked up

1044
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,760
by you know, some other entity. You know, maybe winds

1045
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,719
up on Peacock through their deal with Boxer Boxer, the

1046
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,559
promoter for Chris Billum Smith probably winds up on Sky Sports,

1047
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,519
where Boxer has their deal in the UK. My point

1048
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,599
is this isn't going to be a cost anybody any

1049
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,960
extra money for this event. And now go through the

1050
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000
rest of the cards. You got a level main event

1051
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,639
in the in the unification with Zerto and BILLM. Smith,

1052
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,840
and then the other fights. This one is already I

1053
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,320
reported this also. This fight's been done since and they

1054
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,880
were just looking to figure out where to do it.

1055
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:06,679
Posey Ramirez against Arnold Barbosa a good quality junior welterweight fight.

1056
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,719
It's now going to be a WBO, as it was announced,

1057
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,960
a WBOLE eliminator. There had spent their careers with top Rank,

1058
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,199
but they've both been with Golden Boye last couple of

1059
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:19,119
fights shared the same man, and that's a solid fight

1060
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,079
on that card. Then you got what was supposed to

1061
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,599
be the so called tune up fight for Williams to

1062
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:25,719
paid a prior to the Court fight which we just

1063
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,360
talked about. But the paid is fighting his next fight

1064
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,519
on this cart whatever will happen with the score, and

1065
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,559
he's taking on in a ten rounder the former junior

1066
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,679
light with tat older Tevin Farmer, who is coming off

1067
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:39,000
of a loss against Marataia, but he gave more A

1068
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:41,079
Tia a good, solid fight. And uh, you know, Tevin

1069
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:43,239
Farmer is a good, a good, a good veteran. And

1070
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,400
you know, no one's expecting to pay to to take

1071
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,719
on King Kong before the title fight.

1072
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: So as a name formal world champion, so there's credibility there.

1073
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,679
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's three fights down the card on a

1074
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,280
card it don't cost any extra money, so you know,

1075
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,199
I got no problem with that. Then you have the

1076
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,760
w BO strawweight champion, Oscar Colazo defending the title against

1077
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Edwin Hernandez. As we talked about in the last show.

1078
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,360
We were talking strawweights when we went over the earboy ne.

1079
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: T CP fresh Mark, Yes exactly.

1080
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 3: We were talking to like we were amusing about what

1081
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,000
might could he fight a fight in North America to

1082
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,039
you know, being in sort of soup up some interest

1083
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:18,880
in the weight class, and we talked about, you know,

1084
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,000
so if he could fight at Claso. But Colaso is

1085
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,760
probably the most exciting fighter in that weight class. He's

1086
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,239
going to be defending the title on this card. Further down.

1087
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,280
He's co promoted by Oscar and also by Miguel Coto

1088
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,480
and then the opening fight. This is actually a very

1089
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:36,880
to me. This is like I like this fight a

1090
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,920
lot Oscar Duarte. This is one hundred and this a

1091
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:44,519
WBA junior walter wad eliminator Oscar Duarte, who had gained

1092
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,760
some mat variety because he did put up a good

1093
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360
fight but ultimately get knocked out by Ryan Garcia. He

1094
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,079
has won a fight since then against a fighter who

1095
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,039
was a good, solid contender in that weight class, who

1096
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,199
had been already a w BA top rated fighter, and

1097
00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:00,480
that's Kenny Simms Junior, who recently signed with Golden Way

1098
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:03,199
after a layoff and having parted ways with PVC. This

1099
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,239
is a good quality fight. Sims against Duarte is a

1100
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,159
very solid fight, and that's your card. That's a good

1101
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:12,760
card for free unification. I mean, don't you know I'm

1102
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:13,880
in on that one.

1103
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: All right.

1104
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,559
Speaker 2: And and like you're saying, give something back to the

1105
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:20,199
fans here when you're UH and obviously Turkey Ala Chic

1106
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,480
and UH and Riad season are being very mindful of

1107
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:25,960
this that if you keep soaking them for the big

1108
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,400
pay per views, give something back.

1109
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: And it's not a pay.

1110
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: Per view here, it's if you got your dessowned subscription

1111
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,719
or whatever other broadcaster. You gotta like that, and they're not.

1112
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,400
And again they're not paying us to say that. We're

1113
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,280
just in favor of this give back to the fans.

1114
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: I do think that that Turkey al Chic has heard

1115
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,039
a lot of comments from boxing fans and press that

1116
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,199
all of their cards are pay per views and they're

1117
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,000
not inexpensive pay per views. So now I'm not saying

1118
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
they're not going to do pay per use. Obviously Fury

1119
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,840
and Usik too and you know, and other events that

1120
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,519
they do our pay per views. I have no problem

1121
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:58,840
with that. But this isn't a card that doesn't cost

1122
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,679
any money. That John Aoshuwao do WAC card that's coming up.

1123
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,079
Yes it's a pay per view, but it's twenty bucks.

1124
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:05,559
You can't really bitch about that.

1125
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: So hopefully roughly a quarter of what the other pay

1126
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,280
per views are costing.

1127
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,559
Speaker 3: Agree teaching my point of view is very simple, and

1128
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,320
do a big pay per view and have a cost

1129
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
the money it costs. That's okay, but it has to

1130
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,239
be worth it in terms of is this a legitimately

1131
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,320
big fight And if you want to do a pay

1132
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,599
per view on some other fights either do it like

1133
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:26,800
at the cut ray price, or do it like you're

1134
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,320
doing this read card with the unification and find a

1135
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,239
broadcaster and not do it as a pay per view,

1136
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:33,800
you know, because remember at the end of the day,

1137
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,159
what the Saudi's are doing. They're not boxing promoters. They're

1138
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:41,840
not looking to like, you know, be only a boxing program.

1139
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,920
They've got other things going on with their entertainment stuff

1140
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,559
that they're trying to do. Their goal is to wrench

1141
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,280
in a positive light to Saudi Arabia and to build

1142
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,559
up and let people around the world know about their

1143
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:55,920
reance season, festival and do and bring people to their country.

1144
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,360
If you charge eighty dollars for every pay per view,

1145
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:00,920
you're very very much limiting the audience of people that

1146
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,559
are going to see that message. If you're putting it

1147
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,599
on multiple broadcasters and you're not charging money, or you're

1148
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,320
charging money at a very low rate price like twenty bucks,

1149
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,639
your chances of getting that message out and creating more

1150
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,039
goodwill is going to definitely increase.

1151
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,519
Speaker 2: All Right, good stuff on the news. Let's wrap it

1152
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,800
with some nostalgia, some excellent nostalgia. You're in Vegas now

1153
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,119
and we're coming up on a couple of anniversaries of

1154
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,199
you being in Vegas for some big time fights on

1155
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Saturday as we released the podcast Thursday night into Friday,

1156
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:35,480
September fourteenth, twenty two years ago. September fourteen, two thousand

1157
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,639
and two. Oscar Dala Hooia, Fernando Vargas. I remember this

1158
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:44,039
one with Dala Hooia with the late round TKO he

1159
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:49,480
unified the WBCWBA Junior Middleway Championships. You were right there

1160
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:53,360
for that showdown almost a quarter of a century ago,

1161
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,039
but I remember, I remember old. I know we're trying

1162
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,119
not to be so old, but it's been a little bit.

1163
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,280
But this was a highly entertaining fight. You were right there.

1164
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,559
What are the remembrances?

1165
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: Mighty one took place right up the street from where

1166
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,679
I'm sitting right now at the Mandalay. Big fantastic fight,

1167
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,280
awesome build up, big, big, huge grudge match. There was

1168
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,199
so much bitterness between Oscar and Fernando. You know, there

1169
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,800
was the story about how Fernando felt disrespected at some point.

1170
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,119
I believe that, if my memory is correct, that Oscar

1171
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,119
was running in the mountains and Big Bear at a

1172
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:24,719
training camp and Vargas was there doing a training camp.

1173
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,440
For one of his fights and he fell down in

1174
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,400
the snow and Oscar wouldn't help him up. And then

1175
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,199
there was other discussions on other things.

1176
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before.

1177
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know. There was all kinds of shit,

1178
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,159
and Oscar would go on and on, you know, he

1179
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,440
would say, I'm never giving him the payday, you know,

1180
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,719
And as I have quoted Tyson, Mike Tyson before, who

1181
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,960
had said to me at one point, the most disrespectful

1182
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,199
thing a fighter can do it to another fighters not

1183
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,400
give the other guy the payday. And Oscar would not

1184
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,840
give him the pay day. And then of course when

1185
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,039
the money became big enough for Oscar, he gave him

1186
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,280
the pay day because he needed a big name opponent

1187
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,280
to sell a big pay per view, and Vargas was

1188
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,159
the guy to do that with. There was a this

1189
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,760
was a huge fight. Both had great fan bases and

1190
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:07,159
it was a highly anticipated fight. Fernando was a very

1191
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,920
top guy. Yes, he'd already had the defeat against Felix

1192
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,159
Trinidad before he had this fight, but you know, he

1193
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,800
had won some fights, you know, after that had occurred,

1194
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:18,239
and this was just I mean, this was at the time,

1195
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,639
what's happening. Remember, The fight also at one point was

1196
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:23,239
postponed because of an injury. My memory serves it was

1197
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,960
Oscar that had some kind of injury that required the

1198
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,800
fight to be delayed by a couple of months. And

1199
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,920
so there's a lot of like a lot of a

1200
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,079
lot of fan demand for this bout. Fernando had won

1201
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:35,440
two fights in a row since the lost to Tito Trinidad,

1202
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:40,440
he had regained one of the world titles, and this

1203
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:43,239
was a fantastic build up, and the fight itself really

1204
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,880
lived up to it. I mean, it was a tremendous fight,

1205
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,559
and I remember very specifically, and I was certainly not alone.

1206
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,320
When they got in the ring, Fernando looked like he

1207
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,480
was so much bigger than Oscar, and then he he

1208
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,920
had him hurt in the first round, and you're like,

1209
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,159
oh my god, Fernando mar is going to mow Oscar

1210
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,159
de la Hoya down tonight. And Oscar showed as much

1211
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:02,599
toughness and balls in that fight as any fight you

1212
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:05,079
could look at on Oscar's resume, and he showed heart

1213
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:07,199
and balls and a lot of fights. And he came

1214
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,000
back and he boxed him a little bit, and then

1215
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:10,599
he started to break him down. And break him down,

1216
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,920
and then he had the fantastic finish. I mean, he

1217
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:15,639
just took it to him. It was a devastating ending.

1218
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,519
You know, Jim Lampley was wild on the call, you know,

1219
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,360
timing it perfectly with the referee stepped in to stop

1220
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,639
the bout, and it was. If you take a look

1221
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:26,760
at the entire glorious history of Oscar de la Hoya's career,

1222
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,079
I don't think there's a bigger win emotionally for him,

1223
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,320
including the Chavez fight, which was such a big deal,

1224
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:38,519
then this Fernando Vargas fight because Oscar, you know, there

1225
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:41,039
was such he didn't have a bitter hatred with Chavis.

1226
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:43,480
Chod was like his idol, and that was a big deal.

1227
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,400
But with with Vargas there was such a bitter kind

1228
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,320
of grudge match.

1229
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,679
Speaker 1: And it was genuine. It was genuineness at.

1230
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,199
Speaker 3: That point for sure. I mean, and you know, look

1231
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,039
at Oscar, you know, yeah, bloody nos in that fight.

1232
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:56,480
I mean, Oscar took his licks in that fight. About

1233
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,599
what he did do was, you know, if you're gonna

1234
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:02,519
go down, you know, make sure you don't leave anything

1235
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:04,840
in the chamber, so to speak. And if you're gonna

1236
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,400
do that use your best weapon, and Oscar Delaway's best

1237
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,880
weapon from day one was the left hook, and he

1238
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
absolutely called uh, Fernando Argus with the left hook, uh,

1239
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:15,920
you know, in the tenth round, and that's ultimately what

1240
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,599
put him away. He then knocked him down in the

1241
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:21,159
eleventh round and stopped him when he was just getting pounded.

1242
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,519
And you know, you know I've said this before when

1243
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:26,320
talking about this fight. If you watch the video of

1244
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,760
the of the knockdown, you see Fernando go down, and

1245
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,519
you see like maybe on the left hand side of

1246
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:34,199
the screen, you see Oscar's feet like they're like shuffling

1247
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:36,920
a little bit. But what I remember being ringside was

1248
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,920
what Oscar de la Hoye did when he knocked Vargas

1249
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,679
down for the second time was break out into like

1250
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,199
the all out Ali shuffle, like just what And it

1251
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,519
was a very very exciting moment. And then you know,

1252
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:50,599
he ultimately stopped for Nano Vargus. But that was the

1253
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,599
type of thing you never You've never seen the full

1254
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,079
video of what he was doing, uh in his body

1255
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:56,840
language after that. But this was a big deal. This

1256
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,559
was you know, for the unification, as I mentioned, it

1257
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:01,840
was also for the lineal title in the division. He

1258
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,360
won the magazine title. At the time, you know, it

1259
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,519
was one of Oscar's biggest paydays. They think he made

1260
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:11,639
like fifteen million dollars guaranteed for this fight. Fernanda was

1261
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:15,679
making millions and millions of dollars too. Now post fight,

1262
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,039
it came out that Fernando Vargus had tested positives tested

1263
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:23,079
for a PD for steroid, and even with the steroids,

1264
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,639
Oscar still knocked him out. Fernando got fined and suspended.

1265
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,760
But the reason I say this is because the other

1266
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,239
lasting image of this fight to me was at the

1267
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,239
way In, and it was held in the Mandalay Bay,

1268
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,280
you know, in the in the arena, and they were

1269
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,760
separated on the stage, and when they had done their

1270
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,679
face off and had done the way in, I remember,

1271
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,119
and this you can find the video. He got Fernando

1272
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,599
on the one side of the day as out of

1273
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:50,000
the stage, you know, making muscles and and flexing and

1274
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,440
the whole thing, and Oscar del l Hoya is simply

1275
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,199
pointing at his chin with his finger as in, you

1276
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,880
can come with great abs and great muscles and look

1277
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,840
like you're in great shape, but you can't train that.

1278
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:02,800
And Oscar cracked that chin and it was a listen.

1279
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,760
I'm gona tell another thing about that way in there

1280
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,119
were women at that watch where never forget this either,

1281
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,159
who were you know, the crowd. There wasn't the whole

1282
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:11,639
arena it was they used to do like the half

1283
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:15,000
arena configuration for the weigh ins, and so it was

1284
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:16,599
pretty full. I mean, I don't know how many people

1285
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:19,119
were there, maybe five thousand and six thousand for the

1286
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:22,320
weigh in. And there were young women who were you know,

1287
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,480
big giant Oscar deloyauh, you know, who had the signs up,

1288
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:28,559
you know, marry me the whole thing, who literally like

1289
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,880
we're throwing lingerie bras and panties, you know, from the

1290
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,360
upper decks down to the floor, you know. So and

1291
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,320
then it is an image because and again another thing

1292
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,199
I can very vividly remember, and as we like to

1293
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:44,119
say what happens in Vegas stays and dagas, I'll just

1294
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:47,480
say this. I had the great plantanning Oscar Deloy's post

1295
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,679
fight party at the pool at the and Andala at

1296
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:52,480
Bay after this was over, where he had his private cabana.

1297
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,199
I was given an audience in the private cabana after this,

1298
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:58,480
after this fight was over. I'll just say this, TJ.

1299
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:02,199
I've been to into my share over twenty five years

1300
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,480
or so of post fight parties in Vegas and other places.

1301
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,159
That was the best damn postfight party I ever been to.

1302
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:11,119
I'm gonna leave it at that.

1303
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: And what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

1304
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:15,519
Speaker 3: And if I ever write a book, that might be

1305
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:16,000
in my books.

1306
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: Some Rayfield seals the vault on twenty two years ago,

1307
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:23,920
Dale Jya Vargas post fight party, September fourteen, two thousand

1308
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,079
and two. All right, moved forward ten years and it's

1309
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:32,239
twelve years ago. Sunday, September fifteen, twenty twelve. Sergio Martinez

1310
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Julio saysars Chavez Junior's significant world middleway title fight, dramatic

1311
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,199
final round of the fighting. You were right there for

1312
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,800
this as well, So tell me more about that nostalgia

1313
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,039
on Sergio Martinez and Junior.

1314
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:47,519
Speaker 1: Julio saysars Chavez Junior.

1315
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:51,039
Speaker 3: So I'll set the stage a little bit. This week

1316
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:53,440
that this was taking place in Las Vegas. You had

1317
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,320
again it's Mexico Independence Day weekend. You got Shavez, the

1318
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,559
Mexican at that time, star fighter undefeated. He had the

1319
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,519
WBC Middleway title that had basically been gifted them because

1320
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:07,679
the WBC plled it. It's shenanigans with Martinez and stripped him.

1321
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,199
But Martinez was still the lineal champion, so he went

1322
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:13,039
in defending the lineal title. Chavis goes in defending the

1323
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,840
WBC belt and taking place down the road because this

1324
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,519
fight was at the Thomas and Mack Center, but at

1325
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,360
the MGM was Canelo, a younger starfighter on the rise,

1326
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,559
defending one of his titles against hose c to Lopez

1327
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,760
at the MGM, and so there was a big controversy

1328
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:32,599
in boxing. That whole build up is like, you know,

1329
00:59:32,639 --> 00:59:35,280
do you have these two is you know, somewhat significant

1330
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,800
Mexican fights, Although nobody debated, I don't think among the

1331
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,760
public or the media that the Chavz and the Martinez

1332
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
was more significant, even Canelo had a huge fan base. Also,

1333
00:59:44,719 --> 00:59:48,280
Golden putting on that the Canelo fight, Top Rank and

1334
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,239
lou de Bella were doing the Sergio Martinez and Chavis fight.

1335
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
There was a lot of back and forth. Richard Schaeffer,

1336
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,480
who was running Golden Boy, who I still to this

1337
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:59,039
day have a great relationship with, but he was on

1338
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,719
everybody ship list week because all he did was, you know,

1339
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,039
complain that we weren't covering his fight, and he was gonna,

1340
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:06,280
you know, take attendance and if you weren't at our fight,

1341
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,239
you know, we're not going to credential you. You know, he

1342
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,159
was trying. It was you know, it was. It was

1343
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:13,960
a lot of acrimony leading up to that, and uh,

1344
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:16,679
you know, in the end, most of the top media

1345
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,519
we covered the fight at the Thomas and Act for

1346
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:21,079
the Middleway Championship. It wasn't a knock against Canelo. But

1347
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,679
you make the decisions about where you go based on

1348
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:26,239
what's the more important fight to go to. So anyway,

1349
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,320
what I did was I I had uh I had

1350
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,320
come to Las Vegas on Sunday because the prior week

1351
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,280
I had been in Oakland covering a andre Ward fight

1352
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,679
against Dad Dawson, which we discussed, So I had a

1353
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:42,239
full week. I stayed like eight nights at the Win

1354
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Hotel in Las Vega. By the way, way too many

1355
01:00:44,639 --> 01:00:46,679
had the Win beautiful tub, but a little, a lot

1356
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:49,039
of a little Las Vegas goes a long way. Anyway,

1357
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,400
what I did was I did my due diligence and

1358
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,000
took care of covering and writing and doing stuff on

1359
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:56,800
the on the Canelo fight in the first few days

1360
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,239
of that week, and then I turned my attention to

1361
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,559
what I felt like and my boss'sa and ESPN felt

1362
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,519
like was the bigger fight, which was a chob Az

1363
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,199
against Martinez. So I did both, even though I attended

1364
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,519
the Martinez Chobz fight. Now, when the chob As Martinez

1365
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:15,559
fight occurred, it was a fucking complete wipeout. Martinez won

1366
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:19,280
every single round of the fight easily, except for the

1367
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,800
one moment that everybody remembers. There was a huge Mexican crowd,

1368
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,639
and by the way, they were awfully quiet because their

1369
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:26,800
guy was getting his ass kicked, and there was a

1370
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:31,079
There was a smaller but very vocal and boisterous crowd

1371
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:33,480
of folks that had been there to support Surgeon Martinez,

1372
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,199
either who had come from Argentina or there were Argentinian

1373
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:38,679
Americans or what have you, who are there definitely cheering

1374
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:42,320
their guy on great atmosphere. And in the twelfth round,

1375
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,079
job has scored a knockdown and hurt Martinez real bad,

1376
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,239
and you know, its shades of his father, Julio SR.

1377
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,519
What happened against Meldreck Taylor. There was not that much

1378
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,280
time left in the round, and it was all about

1379
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,440
Ken Martinez survived the rest of the round or as

1380
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,800
job is, you know, gonna score the miracle knockout and

1381
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:03,280
you know, and snatched this title in a humongous comeback. Now,

1382
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:05,719
Chavez Melgic at least was a little more competitive than

1383
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,039
even though Chavaz was losing, he was doing the damage.

1384
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:10,920
Chavez Junior wasn't really doing any damage until that last round.

1385
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,360
But Martinez got off the deck, thought back finished, finished

1386
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,440
the fight. But that moment, and I've said this before, TJ.

1387
01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:25,079
I've been ringside for i mean thousands of boxing rounds

1388
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,920
and hundreds of major fights in my career, and it

1389
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,239
is very easy for me to pinpoint this single most

1390
01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:36,719
electrifying moment of any fight I've ever been to. And

1391
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,199
that's including things like being there when Nanny Pacyeo got

1392
01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:43,320
knocked out by one Daniel Marquez and and other major

1393
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360
you know, being there when Tyson got knocked out by

1394
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,559
LENNYX Lewis, or when Bernard Hopkins knocked out Tito Trinidad

1395
01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:50,679
or any you know Dale Hoy of Vargus that we

1396
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:53,039
were just talking about. So I've got a lot of things.

1397
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:55,119
I can compare it to where the crowd goes crazy.

1398
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,800
Ricky hadn't getting smoked by you know, by Pakia or

1399
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,960
Floyd Mayweather. I mean big moments in boxing. There is

1400
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,159
nothing to this day that comes close to the magnitude

1401
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:11,320
of the electricity that just shot through the thomasin Max

1402
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,440
Center at the moment when Chab has put Martinez on

1403
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,519
the mat, because remember he's lost every single moment of

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01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:20,280
the fight. Basically, I think the judges might have given

1405
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,320
gave him a couple of rounds out of mercy, I believe,

1406
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:26,480
and suddenly like that, there guy's got a chance to win.

1407
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:28,679
I have described it as like imagine if you were

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01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,079
standing next to a jet that was not on no

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01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:35,280
motor going and in two seconds that's at mock ten.

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01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:37,639
I mean that there was like they could have blown

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01:03:37,679 --> 01:03:39,599
the roof off the dump. I've gone back and I've

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01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:40,199
watched the video.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go.

1414
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: I gotta go back and see this twelfth round just

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,000
to remember. Was it fairly early where there was some

1416
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:48,519
doubt as to whether there were some Martina could last

1417
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:49,599
That was significant time left.

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01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:51,199
Speaker 3: I got you, I would about significant but there was

1419
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:52,719
probably over a minute, you know what I mean for

1420
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,840
him to get through the restaurant long enough. Yeah, no,

1421
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,280
for sure. But the thing about is when you watch

1422
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,880
the video, the the jolt of electricity that I have

1423
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,400
to describe didn't really come across that well on the

1424
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,039
broadcast the way it did in person. Because that was

1425
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,599
as elactrifying a moment in boxing as I have ever

1426
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,039
experienced in my entire career. I will never forget it.

1427
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The rest of the fight was shit because Martinez absolutely

1428
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,400
took him to the woodshed, but for about twenty seconds,

1429
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,679
thirty seconds, it was as exhilarating as anything you'll ever

1430
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:22,239
see in the sport.

1431
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Speaker 1: Was some doubt.

1432
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,119
Speaker 2: This is why we love boxing. One punch changes everything.

1433
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:28,559
There was some doubt in that moment. And by the way,

1434
01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:31,039
Tinaz because he could finish out the fight and eventually

1435
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:31,719
get the decision.

1436
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Sergio got knocked down, he messed up his

1437
01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:35,800
knee and he was never the same after that fight.

1438
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,480
I mean, he did go on and have other fights

1439
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,760
and continued to defend the title, but he was never

1440
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,480
the same that fight. I think that that injury took

1441
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,719
a lot out of him. Chavez never really did much

1442
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,920
after that either. You know, he had continued to have

1443
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,119
the weight problems. You know, looked terrible against Brian Vera,

1444
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,039
and you know, we all know how his fight, how

1445
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:55,719
his career sort of went down, went down the drain

1446
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,960
after that. But that was a very very big fight

1447
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,119
at that time, major pay per view and Penn State Weekend.

1448
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:02,920
I don't know if it's been broken since then, but

1449
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,960
when it happened, they broke the record for the highest

1450
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:09,159
gate and attendance I guess at Thomas and Maxenter. It

1451
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,199
broke the record that had been set by chob As

1452
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:13,639
his father when he fought Hector Camancho and that Sandol

1453
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,039
thing back years ago. Phenomenal event.

1454
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,599
Speaker 2: Nostalgia on top of nostalgia, and perhaps we're about to

1455
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:22,880
set some new nostalgia to with Saturday Night with Canelo

1456
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,320
Alvarez and Edgar Berlanga. But great stuff, great stuff all

1457
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,280
the way through. I know you're looking forward to everything

1458
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,400
building up as Thursday goes into Friday. On this podcast,

1459
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,719
by the way, we'll do the live bet US Boxing

1460
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:38,239
show one Eastern time, ten Pacific time with Dan from Vegas.

1461
01:05:38,239 --> 01:05:41,639
Will handicap the fights on the bet Us platforms. Their YouTube,

1462
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:45,199
et cetera. I think we're good in the preview mode

1463
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:47,039
and the build up for Saturday night's pay per view.

1464
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Anything else we left anything out? We good.

1465
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,639
Speaker 3: I think we got it all in. We'll look forward

1466
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:53,800
to the recap, see what'll be. Yeah, we don't know.

1467
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: We'll recap whatever happens off of this.

1468
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: All right, Dan, get some have some fun, get some rest,

1469
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,760
Go go find Oscar delah Is Cabana to night before

1470
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,920
we do. Bet us coming ten Pacific time for you.

1471
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:06,679
Speaker 3: Let me make a statement about the Oscar if you've

1472
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:08,320
been listening to what he has had to say, because

1473
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,440
we mentioned earlier they're having the UFC event here at

1474
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880
the Sphere, Oscar has been on his social media just

1475
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,119
doing nothing but ripping this fight, talking about how he's

1476
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:18,840
going to the UFC fight. So I didn't think that was.

1477
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 2: And it's fascinating if you've been paying attention all along.

1478
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,519
He and he and Dana White hate each other. Dana

1479
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,480
White has repeatedly made fun of Oscar de la Jolla

1480
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:31,800
and rehab and cocaine use and whatever, and now they're bedfellows. Figuratively,

1481
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,239
He's gonna come to the UFC event at the Sphere

1482
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:35,679
did say.

1483
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: He did say, I don't know where he got the

1484
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,400
tickets from, but he didn't get him for me. So,

1485
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,800
but Oscar knows a lot of people in Vegas.

1486
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: To be able to come to the event at the Sphere.

1487
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,679
But you know, we're talking about Canelo, and I know

1488
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:49,320
we're partial. I'm sorry. Whatever they're doing at the Sphere

1489
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,480
is wonderful. I guess for the UFC fans, it's not

1490
01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:55,280
as big as a Canelo fight in Vegas. Uh, even

1491
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,599
if it is against maybe a little lesser known fighter.

1492
01:06:59,119 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: He's the draw.

1493
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,559
Speaker 2: He is the guy that we care about the most

1494
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:04,960
in combat sports, and he's fighting this weekend, and that's

1495
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,199
why we want to talk about.

1496
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:10,239
Speaker 3: I've said this many times. There's room for both to exist,

1497
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,880
right because I don't think that crossover between boxing and

1498
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,039
MMA fans is so great that it's gonna have any

1499
01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:20,039
negative impact on either event. They're gonna be. There's there's

1500
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:23,000
a small overlap some of them, even with medium members.

1501
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:23,519
Speaker 1: I agree.

1502
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:25,639
Speaker 2: I agree with you though, because most of the most

1503
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:28,960
of the boxing fans are not into UFC and vice versa.

1504
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:32,880
With the growth and the development and rest assured, unlike

1505
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,320
the Canelo COVIALV fight. They won't be waiting in the

1506
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,280
dressing room for the main event of the UFC to

1507
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,840
be over with. Remember Canelo and the Barca lounger in

1508
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,119
his role laying back like, my god, what are we

1509
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:46,280
doing taking next?

1510
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen, that would know. And keep in

1511
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,679
mind that was not a promoter thing or a fighter

1512
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:52,880
thing that was at the zone.

1513
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: That was really this day is embarrassed. It's a stupid thing.

1514
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:01,119
Speaker 2: On that note, we will end it, my friend. Great job,

1515
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,079
We'll see you on the bet US show. Have a

1516
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:03,960
great weekend in Vegas.

1517
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,039
Speaker 1: Bet US Show.

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,519
Speaker 2: Coming up, and then we'll recap on the Fight Freaks

1519
01:08:07,559 --> 01:08:09,559
to Night recap off the weekend on this podcast feed.

1520
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:13,119
Thank you Dan, Rayphiel, you bet and I am merely TJ.

1521
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,119
Reeves as we get ready for Canelo and Berlanga. You've

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01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:18,199
been listening to the Big Fight Weekend Preview podcast