Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray w b Z Constance video.
Speaker 2: Oh. The big story today, at least for people here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts and I think for the whole country, was
Speaker 2: a hearing in front of the House Government Oversight Committee,
Speaker 2: which is a committee that is chaired now because the
Speaker 2: Republicans have a slight majority in the House, chaired by
Speaker 2: a Republican Congressman from Tennessee, Kentucky. Excuse me, Congressman Comer,
Speaker 2: and that committee summoned to Washington four mayors of major cities.
Speaker 2: I think all of you know the story, but for
Speaker 2: those of you who don't, they summon the mayors of Boston,
Speaker 2: New York, Chicago, and Denver. And it didn't turn out.
Speaker 2: I don't think the way the committee chairman had hoped
Speaker 2: it would. I don't know that the committee chair the
Speaker 2: Republicans of the committee were as well prepared as as
Speaker 2: some of the mayors. I think that Mayor Johnson of
Speaker 2: Chicago was the least prepared. Mayor Adams from New York
Speaker 2: didn't want to answer certain questions that dealt with how
Speaker 2: much he had talked to the Trump administration. He has
Speaker 2: really done a one eighty on immigration policies in New
Speaker 2: York since he has since he's been under indictment for
Speaker 2: accepting some travel amenities which obviously he should not have accepted.
Speaker 2: If true, I think that Boston Mayor Michelle wou held
Speaker 2: her own.
Speaker 3: But I think what today's hearing did, just as the
Speaker 3: speech last night that President Trump delivered to the Joint
Speaker 3: Session of Congress did.
Speaker 2: It showed such a stark difference between the two parties.
Speaker 2: Last night, you had two parties in the House Chamber,
Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats. The Republicans spent most of the evening
Speaker 2: on their feet applauding literally everything that Donald Trump said,
Speaker 2: and the Democrats sat on their hands, say that politely
Speaker 2: and couldn't find themselves in many cases to bring applause
Speaker 2: for a thirteen year old boy who was recovering from
Speaker 2: brain cancer, to the family members of a couple of
Speaker 2: individuals who had been killed by illegal aliens. And today's
Speaker 2: hearing showed the stark difference how each party in this country,
Speaker 2: Democrat or Republican, look at the question of illegal immigration. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody There may be some who
Speaker 2: reposed to legal immigration. I think there's a consensus we
Speaker 2: only naturalize as I've told you about a million people
Speaker 2: a year, but looking at it through the lens of
Speaker 2: today's hearing, I think is important. So let me first
Speaker 2: start off with some of the questions and the comments
Speaker 2: that were delivered by Boston's own Mayor, Michelle Wou. By
Speaker 2: the way, kind of interesting here, the City of Boston
Speaker 2: paid a law firm in Washington, d c. It just
Speaker 2: shows you, if you want to make some money, become
Speaker 2: a lawyer and go to Washington paid a law firm
Speaker 2: an exorbit an amount of money, six hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in city money used to prepare Mayor Wu
Speaker 2: for her testimony. In addition, the mayor brought with her
Speaker 2: I guess a dozen staff members at an additional cost
Speaker 2: of eighty five hundred dollars. I mean that's nothing. The
Speaker 2: law firm that was hired as Khill, Gordon and Rindell,
Speaker 2: with a attorney at that firm, they billed nine hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars an hour. I mean that's more than
Speaker 2: I make. Only kidding, folks, only kidding. And that was
Speaker 2: paid for not by Mayor Wu personally, and not by
Speaker 2: her campaign committee, but by City of Boston taxpayers. Bottom
Speaker 2: line six hundred and ninety thousand dollars. Now, I could
Speaker 2: have prepped Mayor Wu for this appearance, and she was
Speaker 2: well prepped today. She did a good job. But I
Speaker 2: could have prepped her for probably half the price and
Speaker 2: about a quarter of the time. I mean this. This
Speaker 2: law firm bills about a dollars an hour. I guess
Speaker 2: nine hundred and fifty dollars an hour, So they must
Speaker 2: have spent what's that that's six hundred and fifty hours
Speaker 2: with the mayor. Now she was summoned to come to Washington.
Speaker 2: It was sometime in late January, so it was only
Speaker 2: about I don't know, thirty thirty five days ago. That's
Speaker 2: a lot of time in my opinion, six hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty hours. Even if you worked forty hours a week
Speaker 2: as preparing her, and one person worked just forty hours
Speaker 2: a week, how do you build that many hours. Now,
Speaker 2: of course there'll be three or four people in the room,
Speaker 2: and so therefore that's where it builds up. But it's
Speaker 2: a lot of money. So the Mayor today was very
Speaker 2: defense's in a good way. She knew that the Republics
Speaker 2: are going to ask her challenging questions, so let's just
Speaker 2: take a little bit of the opening statement. This is
Speaker 2: cut number thirty seven Mayor Wu in Washington today, Cut
Speaker 2: thirty seven around.
Speaker 4: Chim and comer, ranking Member Connolly and members of the committee.
Speaker 5: My name is Michelle Wu.
Speaker 4: I am the daughter of immigrants, and since November of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, I have had the honor of serving
Speaker 4: as Mayor of Boston.
Speaker 5: I'm proud to be here on behalf of our city.
Speaker 4: The police officers, first responders, city workers, the faith leaders, teachers,
Speaker 4: parents and neighbors who partner every day to make Boston
Speaker 4: the safest major city in the nation. And I'm proud
Speaker 4: every day to work alongside the greatest police commissioner in
Speaker 4: the nation, Commissioner Michael Cox. Every year since I took office,
Speaker 4: we've set a new record low for gun violence in Boston.
Speaker 4: Last year, Boston saw the fewest homicides on record in
Speaker 4: the last seventy years.
Speaker 5: Those are the facts.
Speaker 2: So that's her opening remark, and she often would go
Speaker 2: back to that whenever the questions got difficult. Okay, she again,
Speaker 2: this is a fairly quick sound bite. Rob Cut thirty
Speaker 2: seven B is in Boston, thirty seven B.
Speaker 4: We are the safest major city in the country, because
Speaker 4: our gun laws are the strongest in the nation, because
Speaker 4: our officers have built relationships over decades, and because all
Speaker 4: of our residents can trust that when they call nine
Speaker 4: to one one in the event of an emergency or
Speaker 4: to report a crime, help will come.
Speaker 2: She followed up on that, and again, this is all
Speaker 2: from sort of the opening comments thirty seven D. As
Speaker 2: in Daniel Robb thirty seven D.
Speaker 4: This federal administration is making hard working, tax paying, god
Speaker 4: fearing residents afraid to live their lives. A city that's
Speaker 4: scared is not a city that's safe. A land ruled
Speaker 4: by fear is not the land of the free.
Speaker 2: So her reference there is to residents. Okay, so remember
Speaker 2: originally when people came here, they were called illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: Then the word was changed to migrants, and then it
Speaker 2: was changed to newcomers, and so now it's residents. I'm
Speaker 2: a resident, lived here all my life. You're a resident.
Speaker 2: You've probably lived here all your life. Many of you
Speaker 2: who have come here legally and have gone through the
Speaker 2: process of becoming naturalized citizens your residents, but also people
Speaker 2: who are illegally are residents. Now, make no mistake the
Speaker 2: difference is that if you come to the country illegally, okay,
Speaker 2: you are in a different category of someone who came
Speaker 2: here legally. And you're also in a different category of
Speaker 2: someone who has gone through the legal process to become
Speaker 2: a citizen. And you're you're in a different category than
Speaker 2: someone who was born here and became a citizen. Now,
Speaker 2: I like to say that I'm the luckiest of all
Speaker 2: because I was born here. My grandparents on one side
Speaker 2: of the family came here. They were the ones who
Speaker 2: actually chose America for all sorts of reasons. And I
Speaker 2: think anyone who chooses America should be welcomed as long
Speaker 2: as they want to go through the process legally. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of what we're going to talk about tonight.
Speaker 2: There's a fundamental difference between the two parties as to
Speaker 2: how people coming here illegally should be treated, and it
Speaker 2: played itself out in front of Congress today, and I'd
Speaker 2: like to know what your thoughts are. There are probably
Speaker 2: a small percentage of people, a really small percentage of people,
Speaker 2: who would say we should not have a border, we
Speaker 2: should be an open border. There'll be five percent of
Speaker 2: you out there who might call and want to make
Speaker 2: that argument. Love to hear from you, okay, Love to
Speaker 2: hear from you. A country without borders is no longer
Speaker 2: a country. Okay. In my opinion, I don't know the
Speaker 2: country in the world that has no borders. You see
Speaker 2: them all on the map. But maybe there is, Maybe
Speaker 2: there is some poor country. They have other problems. They
Speaker 2: got to worry about getting water out of the ground.
Speaker 2: So I'd like to hear from you on this issue.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on this? This is a fundamental
Speaker 2: issue that helped Donald Trump immensely in seven swing states
Speaker 2: and helped the republic Can Party. Did the Democrats need
Speaker 2: to change their message on this or or do they
Speaker 2: have the right message all along? Uh? You can join
Speaker 2: the conversation. We have plenty of sound bites to play
Speaker 2: from people who questioned Mayor WU. We're going to deal
Speaker 2: with some of those and uh and the other the
Speaker 2: other mayors who were there, uh this There was even
Speaker 2: a little difference you could see between the mayors. The
Speaker 2: mayor of Denver was very very good. I thought he
Speaker 2: was the UH. He tried to be honest and UH
Speaker 2: and and he tried to answer the questions. The mayor
Speaker 2: from Chicago had no interest in answering the questions at all.
Speaker 2: It was like talking I don't know, you know, talking
Speaker 2: to a mannequin, not going to get an answer out
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Republicans tried to craft questions. I don't think they
Speaker 2: did a particularly good job in the committee six one, seven, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three thirty. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have a conversation about this, and at the end of
Speaker 2: the night, maybe we'll better understand why on this issue
Speaker 2: the Democrats are so far apart from the Republicans, or
Speaker 2: to put it differently, the Republicans are so far apart
Speaker 2: from the Democrats. We're all Americans, Okay. I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's people who have malice within either side, although
Speaker 2: there's allegations of that. We got a lot to explore
Speaker 2: in the next couple of hours at least, and I
Speaker 2: want you to participate. We'll be back on Nightside right
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: So if you watch the hearing today, I would love
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts as well. Let's start off, We're
Speaker 2: going to go right to the District of Columbia, Washington,
Speaker 2: DC itself and talk to our our representative in the
Speaker 2: nation's capital, Patrick Patrick, Are you there today or were
Speaker 2: you watching it on television?
Speaker 6: I was doing the radio. I am a true believer
Speaker 6: in radio, so I will you know, I will stick
Speaker 6: to my guns and you know, stick to my medium,
Speaker 6: my favorite medium. However, let me just add real quick
Speaker 6: that the hits just keep on coming. Right Friday, we
Speaker 6: had the showdown at the Oval Office Corral. We went
Speaker 6: to the big speech last night and down today the
Speaker 6: big hearing man my sixty people members of Congress as
Speaker 6: sixty people that they had there.
Speaker 2: That was a big That was a big crowd. But
Speaker 2: the thing that was interesting is neither of the two
Speaker 2: major network cable either CNN or Fox, carried it. It
Speaker 2: was carried live up here only by one television station,
Speaker 2: the a C affiliate here in Boston on Channel five.
Speaker 2: I was stunned the Fox didn't have it that because
Speaker 2: there have been so much built up to it. But
Speaker 2: did that surprise yeh yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, like I said, I was on radio, so I
Speaker 6: didn't go through the I didn't go I didn't go
Speaker 6: over to the television. All right, Well, I'll take I
Speaker 6: will sit down and I'll pay attention. I'll literally I
Speaker 6: do want to listen to your radio program. I'll look
Speaker 6: at the radio and pay attention, you know.
Speaker 2: So what'd you think? What'd you think?
Speaker 6: Well, it seems that I'll agree with you about the
Speaker 6: mayor of Denver that he tried his best and he was,
Speaker 6: you know, more fair than I think that the other three.
Speaker 6: The other three I think came with they didn't came
Speaker 6: with an agenda. It wasn't the agenda. It wasn't it
Speaker 6: wasn't the agenda of the committee.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, No, they were armed. They were armed with
Speaker 2: their talking points. Now, Mayo Wu used her talking points
Speaker 2: I thought pretty effectively. I as you know, I've been
Speaker 2: critical of her, but I thought that she did a
Speaker 2: very good job today. Uh did you see that that
Speaker 2: her that Boston taxpayers Sick spent six hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for her to be prepped by some lawyers
Speaker 2: in Washington for this appearance.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would have prepped her for half of that.
Speaker 7: Oh, me too.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, she really shouldn't have and she
Speaker 6: should have had her facts and figures right there, you know,
Speaker 6: to carry in her briefcase right out of her office.
Speaker 6: She really didn't need all that, but that I guess
Speaker 6: that's because it was such a big audience that she
Speaker 6: might as well go ahead and get prepped. Because I
Speaker 6: think I remember an email to you saying, you know,
Speaker 6: this is her big national debut, and I think it
Speaker 6: you know, it was even though it was.
Speaker 2: Turned out to be a big national debut if it
Speaker 2: was on Fox and CNN. Yeah, but now there was
Speaker 2: one local station up here who carried it live. To
Speaker 2: their credit. After a while, it was pretty clear that
Speaker 2: the Republicans weren't able really to ask questions. Well, they
Speaker 2: were not nearly as prepared. It goes back to the
Speaker 2: job that uh then well Congresswoman Stephanic did on the
Speaker 2: president of Harvard College and the University of Pennsylvania in
Speaker 2: those hearings a year ago in anti Semitism. She was
Speaker 2: really good. You know, James Colmer is no Congressman Comber
Speaker 2: is no Congressman Stephonic in terms of what he was
Speaker 2: trying to ask. Jim Jordan was effective in the questions
Speaker 2: that he asked. He was going after the the mayor
Speaker 2: of Denver, Colorado. That what probably was the best exchange.
Speaker 2: But now, hey, they're living in two different worlds, the
Speaker 2: Democrats and republicanstrick.
Speaker 6: Well, this is truth. When you look at the if
Speaker 6: you go to on your website WBZ website, there's pictures
Speaker 6: of protesters at city halls, you know, in supporting of
Speaker 6: Mayor Wu. I guess it was a wo pep white rally.
Speaker 6: Don't these people work? Don't these people work? Because here's
Speaker 6: the division here. We had the working people who don't
Speaker 6: want to pay for the migrants, and we had the
Speaker 6: non working people who want us working people to pay
Speaker 6: for the migrants. What games here?
Speaker 2: Many many of the people I'm sure who were at
Speaker 2: the rally are again it used to be illegal als,
Speaker 2: then it was migrants, then it was Now it's called residence.
Speaker 2: So everybody's the same. It doesn't matter. We're all residents. Well,
Speaker 2: we can't say citizens because because obviously they're not citizens,
Speaker 2: although I think some people would like to think that
Speaker 2: everybody's a I'm a citizen of the world, Patrick, and
Speaker 2: you're a citizen world citizens, and you know, Elon Musk
Speaker 2: is a citizen of the world, and Warren Buffett and
Speaker 2: George Soros, we're all just citizens of the world.
Speaker 6: That's right, you know. And I thought It was funny
Speaker 6: when they bring up about, you know, Trump's billionaires, Well
Speaker 6: what about the democrats billionaires? Did they suddenly disappear? Do
Speaker 6: they they go broke or something? You know, what happened
Speaker 6: to them?
Speaker 2: You know, Well they're right in the they're correct and
Speaker 2: the issue, so therefore they do carry the appellation of billionaire.
Speaker 2: It's all. It's Patrick, all right, buddy, I gotta let
Speaker 2: you run a nine thirty. Thanks for getting us going.
Speaker 2: That was a strong call. Thank you, Patrick, all right,
Speaker 2: good luck, talk to you, Sue, good night. Six one seven,
Speaker 2: two five four, ten thirty. That's the line that Patrick
Speaker 2: was on six one seven two five four to ten thirty.
Speaker 2: You can fill that up right now or six one
Speaker 2: seven nine three one ten thirty. We will talk about
Speaker 2: this for a while because I do think it is
Speaker 2: a fundamental question that unless the country is going to
Speaker 2: remain totally divided on this particular issue, and we're each
Speaker 2: going to go in whatever direction or with with whatever
Speaker 2: group we feel closest to, there has to be some
Speaker 2: way to come up with something here, which which I
Speaker 2: think is what the Democrats were saying, you know, Mayorwoo
Speaker 2: and others. We'll get to all of this. We got
Speaker 2: some time tonight, so let's sit back and think about
Speaker 2: what we're going to say and give us a call
Speaker 2: coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Now, it did get a little fight, and so here's
Speaker 2: one exchange that I found interesting. Representative from Texas Republican
Speaker 2: asked a question of Mayor Wu and despite the efforts,
Speaker 2: wouldn't answer the question. Now. I understand that a lot
Speaker 2: of the questions are you know, got your questions, But
Speaker 2: this is a question that I think she should have answered,
Speaker 2: and she should have answered it in whatever way she wanted.
Speaker 2: This has cut number forty six. Rob is Representative Pat
Speaker 2: Fallon of Texas talking to Mayor Wu about failures in
Speaker 2: the Biden administration on immigration.
Speaker 8: You supported the Biden Harris administration politically, I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, do you think that they took border security seriously?
Speaker 4: I think Washington failed on immigration and continues to do so.
Speaker 8: Let me ask that again. Do you think the Biden
Speaker 8: administration took border security seriously?
Speaker 5: I think Washington failed.
Speaker 8: Yes or no, it's not a true question, Mayor.
Speaker 5: I think there's responsibility across this entire.
Speaker 8: Line and we can eat it out of you.
Speaker 2: Yes or no? Did Biden mystery?
Speaker 8: Did did Biden Harris do a good job? You were
Speaker 8: supporting Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2: Apparently you must.
Speaker 5: Thought she was okay at it Washington?
Speaker 8: Okay, so I can.
Speaker 2: Answer, yeah, no, Again, I think that as opposed, she
Speaker 2: obviously was programmed by the people that she paid six
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars of Boston taxpayers' money to.
Speaker 2: Whenever anything came up like that that could cause a
Speaker 2: criticism of the Biden administration, she could have said. She
Speaker 2: could have said, look, they did not do an adequate job.
Speaker 2: The border remained open for four years. That was a
Speaker 2: policy decision that I did not necessarily support. But again,
Speaker 2: you know, I just think that you know, everyone in
Speaker 2: Washington's has failed. Well, that's a good answer if you
Speaker 2: don't want to answer the question, and that one that
Speaker 2: did not help her. Let's get back to the calls.
Speaker 2: Where were we going to go to Dolores? Who is
Speaker 2: in Boston? Hey, Doloris, welcome next on Nightside, Go right.
Speaker 9: Ahead, Yes, then thanks for taking my call. I thought,
Speaker 9: at pardon me, what did you say?
Speaker 2: I said, thank you for calling? In you were saying,
Speaker 2: thanks for taking you.
Speaker 9: What was the majority of the show today? And I
Speaker 9: taught mea Wu was very effective. I liked how she
Speaker 9: pushed back on them about the gun laws and the
Speaker 9: different things that she pushed back on them. What I
Speaker 9: didn't like I felt like the Republicans did not have
Speaker 9: a plan set up. They were just like bullying the mayors.
Speaker 9: My question is why did they choose only the blue
Speaker 9: states and why didn't they choose some of the red states.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they were focused to Yeah, let
Speaker 2: me give you an answer. First of all, they were
Speaker 2: focused on the main problem that has developed is that
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts, we're far from the Texas border, and migrants,
Speaker 2: illegal aliens, whatever phrase you're comfortable with, have now moved
Speaker 2: into Massachusetts and are costing taxpayers a lot of money.
Speaker 2: And there's a significant, you know, financial burden on Massachusetts
Speaker 2: that previously had been born by the state of Texas.
Speaker 2: Chicago has had a huge influx. In Colorado, in Denver specifically,
Speaker 2: there's been a huge influx. And in New York. Mayor
Speaker 2: Adams was once very supportive of the Biden administration and
Speaker 2: he welcomed people getting off buses I remember picture of
Speaker 2: them literally handing out like welcome packages, little bags of
Speaker 2: toiletries and stuff like that, showing how much they were welcoming.
Speaker 2: And then they New York kind of changed their point
Speaker 2: of view because I think that New York has spent
Speaker 2: somewhere around six billion dollars. I think that was what
Speaker 2: Adam said today. So most the import the impact of
Speaker 2: the aliens have they have tend to gravitate towards democratic cities. Now,
Speaker 2: there were other cities that could that have had an
Speaker 2: impact Los Angeles, certainly San Francisco, but I don't know
Speaker 2: that Blue states or red states have been nearly as welcoming.
Speaker 2: These are all cities that are states that held them
Speaker 2: out as sanctuary cities or sanctuary states. That's why the Republicans,
Speaker 2: I believe, called these folks.
Speaker 9: In Okay, let's back up to a little bit. They
Speaker 9: did not see this coming because they are hurting everybody
Speaker 9: instead of helping spending all this money.
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure the Lord say this
Speaker 2: one an sure when you said they are hurting, you
Speaker 2: said they did not see it.
Speaker 9: Everybody is hurting either financially.
Speaker 2: Let me just if I can ask the question, I'd
Speaker 2: appreciate that, because I want to understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: You said they are hurting because no one saw this coming.
Speaker 2: Who's hurting and who didn't see it coming?
Speaker 10: In your opinion, the majority of the stage, red stage
Speaker 10: and blue stage. It's affecting us financially, okay, because look
Speaker 10: at Nebraska. They are going The state in Nebraska is
Speaker 10: going bankrupt within the six months because all the migrants
Speaker 10: who work the farm and all these areas are gone.
Speaker 10: They don't have nobody.
Speaker 9: Afecting the farmers.
Speaker 10: It's affecting everybody.
Speaker 2: Wow, So the migrants. So just so I understand, I
Speaker 2: was unaware of this. The migrants have left Nebraska.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the ones who indocumented the fear of ice. I
Speaker 9: read it on on on the internet today, because well.
Speaker 2: If you read it on the internet, it has to
Speaker 2: be true. I mean there's nothing on the internet which
Speaker 2: is misleading. So I'll take this as true. All the
Speaker 2: migrants and are you were you called called the migrants
Speaker 2: or or legal aliens? Which which which would you prefer?
Speaker 9: Whatever you want to call the No, no, what I
Speaker 9: want to Dolores.
Speaker 2: I'm just simply asking what what you what you're comfortable with?
Speaker 2: What what's the best term, so that we're talking about
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 7: Thing I am.
Speaker 9: I am comfortable with indocumented aliens.
Speaker 2: Undocumented aliens. So all of the undocumented aliens in Nebraska
Speaker 2: have left the Nebraska. Where are they gone?
Speaker 9: We don't know because of the fair ice and the
Speaker 9: farmers are rebelling because they don't have nobody to work
Speaker 9: on the box.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. Okay, I was unaware of that. Where did you
Speaker 2: see that?
Speaker 9: I know you started on the internet, but I saw
Speaker 9: that today on on on on YouTube.
Speaker 7: I saw that.
Speaker 2: Today it on YouTube that that's one of the more
Speaker 2: reasonable state. Okay, fine, fine, so yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 9: But my understanding why can't the government and the Republicans
Speaker 9: and why can't they find a common ground and final
Speaker 9: what can we do with the problem instead of creating
Speaker 9: more problem and fare?
Speaker 2: And okay, so what's the what is in your view?
Speaker 2: What is the problem?
Speaker 9: Fix the damn problem? Give them the working papers, and
Speaker 9: the one who come at crimes, get them to hell
Speaker 9: out your face, and the ones who will do a
Speaker 9: decent job. Just give them the papers and let them
Speaker 9: work and go pay some damn passes.
Speaker 2: Okay. And so do you make them citizens or or
Speaker 2: do you just have them work and pay taxes, make.
Speaker 9: Them residents, make them legal, give them residency, and let
Speaker 9: them work their way up to citizenship while they're trying
Speaker 9: to figure out which way is up, while the government
Speaker 9: is trying to figure out what is up. Immigration is
Speaker 9: a long problem. It just didn't start a to Biden,
Speaker 9: it was a long, long, long problem, and it's just
Speaker 9: getting worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 7: Finally, I think we got a little worse.
Speaker 2: It got a little worse. I think that in fairness,
Speaker 2: and you're a fair caller, I think it did get
Speaker 2: a little worse under Biden, because Biden basically said, come one,
Speaker 2: come all, and you had a tremendous influx. What do
Speaker 2: you say to let me just ask you this, doors
Speaker 2: you're a reasonable person. What do you say to moms
Speaker 2: and dads who have lost children to violence by illegal immigrants?
Speaker 2: What do you say to those parents?
Speaker 9: It's it's not a nice thing. I don't know what
Speaker 9: I would say because I've never experienced it on my own,
Speaker 9: but as a parent losing a child it could be devastating.
Speaker 9: I don't know what I would say or how would
Speaker 9: I think. Even if a citizen had done that to
Speaker 9: my child, I'll be bitter, I'll be angry.
Speaker 6: So well, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: By the way, it doesn't matter to me who the
Speaker 2: person is who kills an innocent child or rapes a woman,
Speaker 2: but it bothers me. But it bothers me that if
Speaker 2: an innocent child, which is redundant, but a child is
Speaker 2: killed by an illegal and that illegal was allowed into
Speaker 2: the country, uh, that that is a double tragedy because
Speaker 2: that child did not have to lose his life, his
Speaker 2: or her life.
Speaker 6: So it's clear with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have a lot of area of agreement,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate the fact that you would call me
Speaker 2: on this one, and I hope you continue to call.
Speaker 2: We don't agree precisely, but I think we probably have
Speaker 2: an area of agreement, and and I've enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 9: I hope you have as well, and let's get together
Speaker 9: and help find a common grounds.
Speaker 2: So absolutely, Well, that's that's fine. I didn't see much
Speaker 2: common ground in Washington today though, I'll tell you that. Thanks.
Speaker 9: Thanks, talk to you soon, good night.
Speaker 2: Good night. Okay, So we're gonna take break six one
Speaker 2: seven thirty six one seven nine. It's light up these
Speaker 2: lines and we'll get it going here. Who's up next?
Speaker 2: Right after the break, we're going to be talking with Larry,
Speaker 2: James and Jim and we have others coming in. We'll
Speaker 2: be back now.
Speaker 1: Baptis dan Way live from the Window World night Side
Speaker 1: Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones and we'll go to
Speaker 2: Larry down to the Cape. Larry next on nights, I.
Speaker 6: Grow a hit, sir, Good evening, Dan. I happen to
Speaker 6: be listening to BZ News during the day on the
Speaker 6: way to an appointment, and I did hear that six
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand dollars figure. Yes, Having having lived
Speaker 6: in a section of Boston for a few years of
Speaker 6: couse a few years ago, and my son is still
Speaker 6: a detective on the Boston Police Department. I like to
Speaker 6: follow what goes on in the city. I'd like to
Speaker 6: know we're in the budget they would allow six hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty thousand dollars just to prepare the mayor for this,
Speaker 6: because she was very polished today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know where what line item it was
Speaker 2: taken from, but I'm sure there is some line item
Speaker 2: for legal expenses. A city legal expences, and of course
Speaker 2: they would argue that she's the mayor, she's been summoned
Speaker 2: in her capacity as mayor of Boston. I'm sure they
Speaker 2: could justify the the going in. I just count the
Speaker 2: amount of money, six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I
Speaker 2: assumed that the lawyers must have been with her twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven for the last six weeks to generate
Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Obviously not twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven, but must have been with her twenty thirty
Speaker 2: hours a week here in Boston. I don't know what
Speaker 2: else she was doing other than preparing for this. That's
Speaker 2: an amount of expenditures.
Speaker 6: It was a very contentious hearing, especially with Diana Presley
Speaker 6: and one of the other members of the committee themselves.
Speaker 6: It was pretty hot and heavy. But here's here's the
Speaker 6: pot that I can't understand. I forget which member of
Speaker 6: the committee asked the mayors, all of them, a very
Speaker 6: simple question. If somebody comes across the border, whether they
Speaker 6: waited across the Rio Grande, or they came across and
Speaker 6: then was a getaway, are they committing are they breaking
Speaker 6: a law? Not one of them could admit that they
Speaker 6: came across illegally. That was the most frustrating pot.
Speaker 2: Well, they if that's the circumstances, they had broken the law,
Speaker 2: they're broken what's called Code thirteen twenty five. Improper entry
Speaker 2: by an alien I'm read looking at the code right here,
Speaker 2: and re entering the US illegally after being deported is
Speaker 2: a felony. That's a US Code section thirteen twenty six.
Speaker 2: So what happens is the Democrats are saying it's not
Speaker 2: a crime to come here illegally. It is a crime
Speaker 2: to come here illegally.
Speaker 6: Correctly. One of the other one of the other committee
Speaker 6: members actually said, well, we could actually arrest you now
Speaker 6: for harbor and criminals.
Speaker 2: Well that was yeah, that was one of them. Who
Speaker 2: I think, I think that's a little that's a far,
Speaker 2: a little hyperbolic, a little over the top in my opinion.
Speaker 2: That Let me see if I can find who that was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is yeah, here's the let me play that real quickly.
Speaker 2: This is cut thirty eight. Rob Mayor will being grilled
Speaker 2: by a Republican from Alabama named Gary Palmer, no relation
Speaker 2: to Arnold Palmer. Cut thirty eight. Go ahead, Rob.
Speaker 11: Because of the supremacy clause. The laws of the United
Speaker 11: States take the preference.
Speaker 2: But you didn't do that.
Speaker 11: You declared your city, the boss city of Boston has
Speaker 11: declared a sanctuary city by you, mayor.
Speaker 4: Being a sanctuary city as you describe it, or are
Speaker 4: being a city as we describe it that's home for everyone,
Speaker 4: does not.
Speaker 5: It means that when a crime held account of.
Speaker 11: People who are here lazily, and when you interfere with
Speaker 11: the officers of the law are who are there to
Speaker 11: even remove people that you know have committed crimes, you
Speaker 11: have violated your oath of office. You've committed a crime. Mister Chairman.
Speaker 11: I don't understand why we haven't been discussing obstruction of justice.
Speaker 2: I think that's a reach to be really hot stee
Speaker 2: to Larry, But that's what that that.
Speaker 6: Member, So yeah, I'll finish up with this. What's going
Speaker 6: to be really interesting. My daughter Jill is coming home
Speaker 6: from Afghanistan for a couple of weeks at the end
Speaker 6: of the month, and the only place that she can
Speaker 6: afford is where she stayed last time, is a hotel
Speaker 6: in Woban, and we're going to go up and visit
Speaker 6: her and I'll let you know. I'm sure it's loaded,
Speaker 6: loaded with all these illegals in there.
Speaker 2: It's going to be side.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, She's.
Speaker 2: Actually do me a favor, Larry, Say, how did Jill
Speaker 2: for me? Okay?
Speaker 6: I work to reporters the she's working for the I
Speaker 6: r C.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I'd love to I'd love to get it
Speaker 2: back on the show. She was a fascinating guest, but
Speaker 2: I got to get one more in before the break.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe you could have an interesting interview with her again.
Speaker 6: And then I sent you another email. I'm sure you
Speaker 6: get a million of them. There was a representative in Texas.
Speaker 6: This will be another subject for another night. Who wants
Speaker 6: to take away the protection that the government gave to
Speaker 6: the vaccine companies. That's going to be a really interesting decay.
Speaker 2: Yeah again, Larry, I'm trying to accommodate one other caller here,
Speaker 2: so resend those to me and we'll talk about them.
Speaker 2: You have my number, give me a call, thanks much.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Let me go to James and Derry, New Hampshire. James,
Speaker 2: I want to get you in here. I'll be happy
Speaker 2: to hold you over if you'd like me to, but
Speaker 2: I want to give you a chance to at least
Speaker 2: start your comments.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, James, No, I just wanted to touch me
Speaker 7: through your report. So I think your last caller just
Speaker 7: pinpointed what I was going to say. It is a crime.
Speaker 7: They are committing a crime. And I know you're saying
Speaker 7: it's you know, not going exactly the way we should
Speaker 7: go with it, but they are committing a crime.
Speaker 6: They need to be charged.
Speaker 7: And I think what you're going to see is Tom
Speaker 7: Holman and all them. I think you're going to see
Speaker 7: them make a point with that, and I really hope
Speaker 7: to god they do.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I think I think you very
Speaker 2: well might be right, James, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: And again, you have real criminal criminality going on where
Speaker 2: people are going around and and and trying to tip
Speaker 2: off people about ice raids. I noticed one of the
Speaker 2: ABC network reporters was embedded with a crew going in
Speaker 2: and at four o'clock in the morning and grabbing some
Speaker 2: There's some really dangerous people here. I'm not looking to
Speaker 2: throw people. You're not gonna be able to throw twenty
Speaker 2: people out of the country, but we got to figure
Speaker 2: out how many are here. I mean, you've got to
Speaker 2: get the dangerous ones out of the country, that's for sure,
Speaker 2: and they don't want to do it for some reason.
Speaker 2: The Democrats just look at the whole situation totally different
Speaker 2: where the Republicans look at it and never the Twains
Speaker 2: you'll meet. And that's the problem. We're a divided country
Speaker 2: right now, sadly and badly.
Speaker 7: Well you know, at the end of the day you're saying,
Speaker 7: or divide it, and yeah, we are. But at the
Speaker 7: end of the day, we are our nation of laws,
Speaker 7: and they've broken the law. You know what I mean,
Speaker 7: they've broken law.
Speaker 2: I understand your frustration.
Speaker 7: Original in the LA area and they don't want that here.
Speaker 2: James, do me a favorite. Keep listening to this program,
Speaker 2: keep calling the program. I appreciate your time very much.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
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