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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from Studio A Here at Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacey Hervella me,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Birthday America two hundred and fifty years. Part two

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<v Speaker 1>of our series on gardens. We'd love to see you visit,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we'll cover a number of botanical gardens that

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<v Speaker 1>we recommend you visit. Of course, these gardens are tied

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<v Speaker 1>to history and the rich history of our country, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's really not the history here that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Our goal is to present them as they are today

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<v Speaker 1>and to inspire you to visit them. Just a rich

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural and horticultural history to our country. Stacy a comment

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<v Speaker 1>from one of our viewers that I thought was great

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<v Speaker 1>about land grant universities in the United States. I have

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<v Speaker 1>often visited the gardens at Michigan State University, a land

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<v Speaker 1>grant university. It also makes me think of I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's called the J. C. Ralston Gardens at North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>State and North Carolina State has been instrumental in the

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<v Speaker 1>development of the horticulture industry here in the United.

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<v Speaker 2>States, absolutely, and J. C. Ralston was too. He unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>passed away far too young. But his dream was to

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<v Speaker 2>have a state arboretum for North Carolina and that is

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<v Speaker 2>what became the J. C. Ralston Arboretum. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful place that you should absolutely visit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of visits, we hope that you are able to

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<v Speaker 2>go to all of these gardens in person and experience

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<v Speaker 2>them for yourself and learn about the history. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do have to say, in researching all of this, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of great web sites. So if you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>wait until you can visit them, or you're just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>around and want a dream big, do visit their websites.

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<v Speaker 2>There are wonderful stories, the history maps, all of that

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. So it's the second best thing to visiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really absolutely, and that's true. The websites are fantastic. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I guess to start out, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about history, you talk about the women's movement

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<v Speaker 1>and suffrage and voting rights, and boy, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tied into that was the mid eighteen hundreds. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tied into the Founder's Memorial Garden. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>been there. But i'd like to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I have never been there either. This is in Athens, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>on the campus of the University of Georgia. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the gardens that we're picking for this show, right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>the comments are already coming in, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>wait until the whole series is over and we will

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<v Speaker 2>do something to address all of the gardens that we

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<v Speaker 2>miss our being outcried in the comments. We'll address that

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<v Speaker 2>in a future episode. But you know, the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways that we're trying to pick these gardens is

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<v Speaker 2>because of their significance. So it's not always that it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the best or most beautiful or special or unique garden.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how a garden like the Founder's Memorial Garden

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<v Speaker 2>in Athens, Georgia gets on the list. The Founder's Memorial

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<v Speaker 2>Garden commemorates the founding of the first Ladies Garden Club

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<v Speaker 2>in America in eighteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so interesting. What year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen ninety one? Wow, So that was the year that

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<v Speaker 2>the first Lady's Garden Club was founded. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to us now, it's kind of interesting because I think

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<v Speaker 2>most people think tend to think no offense rick of

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<v Speaker 2>gardening is a woman's pastime, which is garbage. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>you do not need to be a specific gender to garden.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even touching that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But really, you know, and if you couldn't tell, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the gardens that we've talked about is we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>traveled through the thirteen original colonies and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we're in Georgia, so that's still one of

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<v Speaker 2>the thirteen original colonies. But you know, gardening was largely

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<v Speaker 2>a man's pastime. It was not something that women engaged in,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was because they were dressed in hoopskirts and

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<v Speaker 2>petticoats and all of these other things that made it

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to actually bend over much less work in the

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<v Speaker 2>garden and pull weeds and so forth. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>really instrumental in the fact that now it was okay

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<v Speaker 2>for women to garden. It was accepted women could get

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<v Speaker 2>together in their own societies and talk about gardening and

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate gardening and learn about plants. And you know, now

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<v Speaker 2>we take the whole concept of garden societies kind of

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<v Speaker 2>for granted. They're almost like a quaint concept that don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hardly exist anymore. But this was massive that

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<v Speaker 2>there was the first garden club for women in Athens,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia in eighteen ninety one. So this is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>small garden if you happen to be in Athens, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>you might even miss it if you didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this garden was actually chartered in nineteen thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>specifically to commemorate the founding of the first women's garden.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't completed until ten years in nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of a formal garden with a clipped

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<v Speaker 2>boxwood parterre, and a parterre is basically, I guess what

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<v Speaker 2>most people would consider like a k not garden, very formal,

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<v Speaker 2>clipped boxwood hedges, sometimes with plants inside them, So it

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<v Speaker 2>has this kind of formality. But it also functions as

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<v Speaker 2>a living laboratory for the University of Georgia College of

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<v Speaker 2>Environment and Design, so they're doing research on trees. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about a five acre site. You can rent it for

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<v Speaker 2>weddings and events and all of those types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But again this one is included not because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the most stunning guard that you're ever going to see,

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<v Speaker 2>but that role in history and the fact that even

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty six, you know, some forty years after

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<v Speaker 2>the first Lady's Garden Club was founded, they felt that

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<v Speaker 2>that was significant enough to commemorate with its own garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Well, I guess my only editorial comment would be

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<v Speaker 1>I used to operate a guard center, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that probably nine out of ten decisions made at a

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<v Speaker 1>garden center are made by a woman, not a man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the way it is, and we love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I think that that that's my

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<v Speaker 2>only kind. I'm grateful that gardening has become much more

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<v Speaker 2>democratized because of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are at least as many male gardening

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<v Speaker 2>influences as there are female gardening influencers. But again, as

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about history, it's pretty wild to think that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a time where it's unbelievab, where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pearls would have been clutched if a woman so much

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<v Speaker 2>is dreamed of planting something.

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<v Speaker 1>So goodness, Well, let's move on here, and let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to southern Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we're actually going to take a detour first. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to well we're still in Florida. But I found

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<v Speaker 2>out about a garden just to this morning. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew about the garden before, but once I started reading

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<v Speaker 2>the story of this garden, I said, oh, this has

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to make the cut. It's in your

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<v Speaker 2>digital notes, it's in your paper notes here, okay. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I read this, and then I read the story

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<v Speaker 2>of the person who founded this garden, I said, this

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly the type of story that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell on the Gardening Simplified Show for part two. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is Bach Tower Gardens and Lake Wales, Florida. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you been there? I have been there, Okay, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I looked on the map southwest of Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>It is still deep within theme Park Florida, not far

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<v Speaker 2>from Legoland. So if you are in Florida visiting all

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<v Speaker 2>the theme parks, you may not have time because you're

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<v Speaker 2>running around theme park to theme park. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely a garden worth your visit because the founder of it,

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<v Speaker 2>Edward Bach. It's a true American dream story, So get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this. He comes to Brooklyn at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of six as an immigrant from the Netherlands. He's educated

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City public schools. In Brooklyn, he works

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<v Speaker 2>as a quote office boy for Western Union Telegraph in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventy six. And you know, this is a the

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<v Speaker 2>classic American story. He's attending night school to further his education.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's this guy trying to make a living, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>older teenager, young twenties, out of school, working at telegraph office,

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<v Speaker 2>going to night school. He eventually starts to work his

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<v Speaker 2>way up in publishing and advertising sales for magazines. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>he now speaking of women and how gardening has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to say, this is almost absurd for

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<v Speaker 2>me to say, but it's still part of history. He

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<v Speaker 2>becomes the first editor of the Ladies Home Journal in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>An immigrants from the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so he ends up so the Lady's Home Journal

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<v Speaker 2>was there. He becomes the editor of the Ladies Home

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<v Speaker 2>Journal in eighteen eighty nine, and under Edward box leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>the Ladies Home Journal becomes the first magazine in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to reach one million subscribers. Which that's crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>think of that happening, you know, way back in the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds, because things did not

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<v Speaker 2>happen as quickly as they do now with the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Under his direction at the Ladies Home Journal. He coins

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<v Speaker 2>the term living room. He renames the concept of Victorian

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<v Speaker 2>parlors to living rooms, so they used to be called parlors.

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<v Speaker 2>By him, they become living rooms and now that, of

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<v Speaker 2>course is common parlance for us and in he was

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<v Speaker 2>a big proponent of the early American arts and crafts movement,

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<v Speaker 2>and he publishes Frank Lloyd writes home plans in the

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies Home Journal, making him and his home style as

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<v Speaker 2>popular as they became. Amazing, isn't that incredible. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a very forward thinking person. He fought for women's rights,

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<v Speaker 2>the right to vote, and he also helped to ensure

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<v Speaker 2>that Niagara Falls was preserved from development. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>fun thing about these is you start reading these histories

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<v Speaker 2>and there's all these like crazy points connecting everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>he moves to Florida and he has a vision to

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<v Speaker 2>found a garden and this is a quote directly from

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<v Speaker 2>the bach Tower Gardens website, as a gift for visitation

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<v Speaker 2>by the American people in gratitude for the opportunity they

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<v Speaker 2>to the American people to enjoy. He employs Frederic loh

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<v Speaker 2>Olmsted Junior. So we talked about Frederick law Olmsted a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in the last episode. We're gonna still be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about him because we've got some big Frederick law Olmsted

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<v Speaker 2>Gardens coming up, and he specifically designs it with Frederick

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<v Speaker 2>lah Olmsted Junior, as a sanctuary for birds and native wildlife.

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<v Speaker 2>And Olmsted Junior specifically chooses plants and cites them to

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<v Speaker 2>quote provide a hearty supply of food and shelter for

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<v Speaker 2>migrating birds and other wildlife. Now to this day, the

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<v Speaker 2>threatened gopher tortoise and eastern indigo snake make their homes

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<v Speaker 2>at Bach Tower Gardens. And there is a picture, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is sort of why the thing that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>this morning that made me really want to look into

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<v Speaker 2>his story. There was a picture of Edward Bach standing

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<v Speaker 2>next to a sign that says, quote, a sanctuary is

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<v Speaker 2>a place where the rights of all living things are respected.

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<v Speaker 2>And that just kind of really summarizes his, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>view on life and the viewpoint that he had building

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<v Speaker 2>bock Tower Gardens. Now, I think what most people know

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<v Speaker 2>Bock Tower Gardens for is his dream of building a carolon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know a lot about carolons. They are.

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<v Speaker 2>I am vastly underestimating them to call them a bell tower,

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<v Speaker 2>because they are so much more than a bell tower.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned a lot about carolons today. Fascinating topic. He

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<v Speaker 2>commissioned a carolan at the center. He is buried at

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<v Speaker 2>the base of the carolon at bock Tower Gardens and

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<v Speaker 2>They have a great page on their website about carolons.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are if we get to it, because at

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating story in a beautiful garden. I have not visited there,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I meant to look that up. I'm sure it's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>When the tortoise arrived, he said, I'll be back. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to continue our journey

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<v Speaker 2>Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Shrub,

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<v Speaker 2>where we're continuing our tour of gardens that shaped America

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<v Speaker 2>and public gardens that you can visit, because we're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about gardens that aren't still around. All of these

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them may not be open every single day,

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to kind of share some gardens around the country,

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<v Speaker 2>big and small, famous and less famous, that the people

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<v Speaker 2>that's something you can participate in. So we are moving

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<v Speaker 2>to a garden that is named for an extremely significant

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<v Speaker 2>might hear Fairchild and just think, oh, that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>David Fairchild, who, again a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who he is, but his impact on American food and

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<v Speaker 2>gardening cannot be overstated.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. There's a good chance I would have not

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<v Speaker 1>had avocado toast for breakfast this morning without DN.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine no avocados? And we have David Fairchild

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<v Speaker 2>to think. So. David Fairchild was born in Lansing, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Not far away. But he did not go to Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State University. I know this will disappoint many of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>He then moved to Kansas and graduated from Kansas State,

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<v Speaker 2>which is still an excellent agricultural program. He then, at

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<v Speaker 2>as a quote seed explorer and this work for the

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<v Speaker 2>USDA sent David Fairchild all over the world. He went

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<v Speaker 2>to every single continent except Antarctica inert. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen twenties, right, This This is not like

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<v Speaker 2>a frequent flyer. This is long, long hours in ships

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<v Speaker 2>and motion, sickness and storms and all of that. And

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<v Speaker 2>he is credited with introducing two hundred thousand ornamental and

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<v Speaker 2>food crops to the US unbelieve that is not a

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<v Speaker 2>made up number. That is the actual USDA number. At

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<v Speaker 2>least two hundred thousand different crops he collected around the

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<v Speaker 2>world and brought back to the USDA and brought back

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<v Speaker 2>to the US and just profoundly changed the way that

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<v Speaker 2>way that we eat. So before David Fairchild started bringing

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<v Speaker 2>all of these over, Americans mostly had a pretty meat

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<v Speaker 2>heavy diet. Now, of course, if you lived in a

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<v Speaker 2>and people did grow their own food, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that summer season was pretty small. And yes, people can,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't make an impact on your you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>your finances. So he by bringing all of these different

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<v Speaker 2>edible crops to the US, he really changed the way

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<v Speaker 2>people eat. So just some of his introductions include soybeans, pistachios, mangoes, nectarines, dates,

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<v Speaker 2>bamboo no that could be a good or a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on how you look at it, kale keen, avocados,

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<v Speaker 2>Asrick said, and those flowering cherries that are so associated

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<v Speaker 2>with Washington, d c. You can thank David Fairchild for those.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was there, we were having a taste testing

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<v Speaker 1>of mangoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, Fairchild. So we're getting to Fairchild. It is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best, I think, most significant mango collections

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<v Speaker 2>every year, and yeah, you can taste how many different

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<v Speaker 2>varieties of mangoes. Did you taste?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool? There were a few I don't remember, but all

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<v Speaker 1>I remember is they were delicious and juicy, very good.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was there, it was not mango season, but

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<v Speaker 2>they did show me around and they have a huge

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<v Speaker 2>mango collection. So if you're interested in learning more about

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<v Speaker 2>David Fairchild, there is a great recent book called The

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<v Speaker 2>Food Explorer by Daniel Stone. My husband read it. He

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed it. I have not read it, but talks

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<v Speaker 2>more about that history. And then, just briefly while we're

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning books, in David Fairchild. He and his wife, who

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<v Speaker 2>was Marion Bell. She changed her name, of course to

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<v Speaker 2>Maryild the daughter of Alexander Graham Bell Hello. She was

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<v Speaker 2>the daughter of Alexander Graham Bell. She marries David Fairchild.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a house in Maryland as well as in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to the Florida partner moment here, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have to give this a little side detour because I

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube video as much as I want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He and his wife spend one summer constructing this elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's eighteen foot long camera specifically to photograph insects,

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<v Speaker 2>and they publish these photographs in a book that they

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<v Speaker 2>entitled the Book of Monsters, because in David Fairchild's eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>he said that insects were beautiful, living creatures that deserve

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<v Speaker 2>better than to be quote dried up husks in university

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<v Speaker 2>drawers and that kind of thing. So you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>he and his wife's amazing work along this So Fairchild

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<v Speaker 2>Tennic Garden was named for David Fairchild. He was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the founders. You can actually see some of the

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<v Speaker 2>plants that he brought back to Florida that are planted there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a baobab tree, probably one of very few in

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<v Speaker 2>he worked with a bunch of Florida and just botanical visionaries,

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<v Speaker 2>including Liberty Hyde Bailey to create this collection in Charter.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fairchild Botanic Garden, not far from Fairchild Botanic Garden,

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<v Speaker 2>is David Fairchild's personal estate. It's called the Campong. It's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the National Tropical Botanic Garden System. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>always open to the public, but it is open to

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<v Speaker 2>the public on certain days. It is be beautiful. It

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<v Speaker 2>is such a special place.

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<v Speaker 1>As palm trees.

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<v Speaker 2>The palms are incredible and you can actually see the

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<v Speaker 2>very first literally the very first citrus plants that were

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<v Speaker 2>ever brought back to the US still growing on that property.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, absolutely incredible, and you know many of us, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>houseplants in our homes. We will grow ponytail palms, which

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<v Speaker 1>struck me when I was there, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to note that with Fairchild, if we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>Fairchild at this point. But that entire region was flattened

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety two by Hurricane Andrew, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>there a short time after Hurricane Andrew. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I remember walking through some of the fields.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many growers down there, and it's very flat, and

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<v Speaker 1>us here in Michigan Bay City, Michigan. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>and all you had to do is put them together

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<v Speaker 1>like a puzzle. And they were flattened by the hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>of the Great Miami Hurricane of nineteen twenty six and

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<v Speaker 1>then soon after so that you get the Great Depression.

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<v Speaker 1>They're out of business. But that's why it's called a

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<v Speaker 1>Laddin City. But there are many many growers down there,

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<v Speaker 1>and growers that I would purchase from as a purchasing agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've talked about Boston ferns as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>with some of our YouTube viewers. That area is an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing area. And to think of the weather events that

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<v Speaker 1>fair Child Botanical Garden has gone through, and the gardens

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<v Speaker 1>in that area, and the growers in that area. When

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<v Speaker 1>I visited shortly after Hurricane Andrew, the wild dogs and

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<v Speaker 1>the pets that were abandoned after Hurricane Andrew. And Hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew actually created the movement to cause us to develop

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<v Speaker 1>Hurricane even yea, I have so many memories of it,

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<v Speaker 2>It is such a unique area. And there's lizards that

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<v Speaker 2>blew in from different countries, like in the Caribbean. They

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<v Speaker 1>Can I mention one more? I got to mention this,

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<v Speaker 1>So Hurricane Andrew's specimens, so many people, many of these

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<v Speaker 1>growers walked away from their farms. The plants are laying

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<v Speaker 1>on their side. What happens in the ensuing years, the

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<v Speaker 1>plants begin to grow at a ninety degree angle to

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<v Speaker 1>the light, and they were sold for premium prices as

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew's specimens. We tried to get our hands on dressinas

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<v Speaker 1>many of these plants, so you have those, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>inspired some of the plant material that you'll find at

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<v Speaker 1>parks in Florida, including the Doctor Seuss Park. So oh, anyhow, so.

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<v Speaker 2>What's more American than trying to what is it? What's

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<v Speaker 2>something bad into something good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, making lemonade?

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<v Speaker 2>Yea? And what's more American than making lemonade out of lemons?

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<v Speaker 2>So but back briefly to the Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>The garden was laid out by William Lyman Phillips, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a somewhat known name for those of us in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry. He got his start as the landscape architect

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<v Speaker 2>for the Panama Canal, which I thought you would find interesting, Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>and he fell so in love with tropical landscaping and

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<v Speaker 2>designing in the tropics that after between the Panama Canal

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<v Speaker 2>and Fairchild Botanic Garden, he settled there. He said, this

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<v Speaker 2>is where I am, and I have to say that

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<v Speaker 2>is my impression too, of going to Fairchild is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has, you know, worked in gardens and visited gardens,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all throughout the East Coast and through other

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<v Speaker 2>temperate regions. There is really just no describing how breath

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<v Speaker 2>takingly different it is to be in a totally tropical

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<v Speaker 2>garden like that, and the way that the plants are

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<v Speaker 2>of being in the garden, and not just because the

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<v Speaker 2>plants look so different, but because everything is just profoundly different.

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<v Speaker 2>And you will really see that if you find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>fortunate enough to go to Fairchild at Botanica Garden. It

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<v Speaker 2>is way down there, but there's so many wonderful things

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<v Speaker 2>to do down in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Tropical vines, on pergolos, banana trees. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Costa Rica. That's how it felt to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You see any creditin I saw crotons, Absolutely, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>crotons the garden at night unbelievable. Make sure to visit

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<v Speaker 1>that garden at night. That's incredible too. So oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to quickly mention Bailey palms. Bailey palms, I guess,

428
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<v Speaker 1>are native to Cuba and they have huge Bailey Palms there.

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<v Speaker 1>Look it up. What an incredible palm tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely worth a visit. It's also the home

431
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<v Speaker 2>of the American Orchid Society, so if you love orchids,

432
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<v Speaker 2>a great place to visit, just a great place to

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<v Speaker 2>visit all around, named for an extremely fascinating person. So

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<v Speaker 2>next time you find yourself in South Florida, don't just

435
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<v Speaker 2>get a Cuban sandwich and a mohido. Visit the Fairchild

436
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<v Speaker 2>Tropical Garden as well. Now I knew that was going

437
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<v Speaker 2>to take a full segment. We're going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>little break right now. When we come back, we are

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<v Speaker 2>moving over to Louisiana, so please stay tuned. At Proven

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Gardening Simplified Show. Where I'm talking too fast, it's just

450
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<v Speaker 2>because I'm trying really hard to get through all of

451
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<v Speaker 2>these amazing gardens. It has been slower than I expected,

452
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<v Speaker 2>But I also knew that we were going to be

453
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<v Speaker 2>really excited about these gardens that we've covered so far

454
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<v Speaker 2>in memories, so many it's just interesting stories. And this

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<v Speaker 2>next garden is no exception whatsoever. We are going to

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<v Speaker 2>Longview Gardens in New Orleans, Louisiana. Now, I have been

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<v Speaker 2>to New Orleans many times. Wonderful city, just like no

458
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<v Speaker 2>other place on Earth, just an amazing place to visit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never been to this garden, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you the next time I go to New Orleans,

461
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<v Speaker 2>I am making it a top priority because it's actually

462
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<v Speaker 2>it's not quite in like the downtown area, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>very close. It's very close to City Park, which is

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<v Speaker 2>accessible on the street car, and just a beautiful free

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<v Speaker 2>park that you can visit with a beautiful sculpture garden.

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<v Speaker 2>But Longview is the estate of Edgar and Edith Stern.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Edith Stern was Nay Rosenwoald. She was the heiress

468
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<v Speaker 2>to the Sears Roebuck fortune, so she had plenty of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Her husband, Edgar Stern, was a native New Orleanian and

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<v Speaker 2>took her down there. She fell instantly in love with

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, which is very easy to do. It's such

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful place. And so they built their home in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty four. Very modest by today's standard, but quite

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<v Speaker 2>grand then and kind of like a marriage of New

475
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<v Speaker 2>Orleans architecture and Northern architecture.

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<v Speaker 1>Sears used to sell homes out of their catalogue, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that this home did not come

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<v Speaker 1>from a Sears catalog.

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<v Speaker 2>No I live. Yeah, yeah, so I know. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a beautiful home. Now, what's really cool is they

481
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<v Speaker 2>started living in this house. They said, hey, this house

482
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<v Speaker 2>is great, but you know what, we just don't have

483
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<v Speaker 2>enough connection to the outdoors. We want a more seamless

484
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<v Speaker 2>connection from the home to the outside. We love being outside. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so they hired Ellen Biddleshipman. Now, in the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about Beatrix Farrand at Dunbarton Oaks in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Ellen but l Shipman was almost a contemporary,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit later than Beatrix f Rand, but one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most important female lands or earliest land female

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<v Speaker 2>landscape architects in the US. So they can mission Ellen

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<v Speaker 2>Biddle Shipman to come down there and design the gardens,

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<v Speaker 2>and she creates at Longview the very first concept of

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<v Speaker 2>what we would now call garden rooms and an effort

494
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<v Speaker 2>to kind of really connect the garden to the house.

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<v Speaker 2>So these rooms kind of work off the architecture and

496
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<v Speaker 2>structure of the house. There are views that open up

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<v Speaker 2>from doors, and this is such a wild thing for

498
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<v Speaker 2>us to think about because now it's all very natural

499
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>for us to have this sort of seamless flow from

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<v Speaker 2>the outdoors to the inn and vice versa. But back

501
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 2>then it was pretty much unheard of. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen Biddle Shipman did was to create these garden rooms,

503
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>create these grand views. There is not a single window

504
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<v Speaker 2>in the house that does not have a view onto

505
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the garden that relates directly to the garden and how

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<v Speaker 2>it is used. So Ellen Biddleshipman said of her planting

507
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<v Speaker 2>design for Laweview quote, it was as if she were

508
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<v Speaker 2>painting pictures as an artist. This is very much different

509
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<v Speaker 2>than the way other people were planting. They were just like, Okay,

510
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<v Speaker 2>we need some shade here. Put this here. She really

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<v Speaker 2>treated the landscape as an artistic composition. She also this

512
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<v Speaker 2>is one of the few surviving at Longview, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the few surviving examples of Ellen Biddle Shipman's interpretation of

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<v Speaker 2>William Robinson's wild garden stuff. That's something we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>in previous episodes. One of my favorite things. William Robinson's

516
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<v Speaker 2>wild gardens are difficult to preserve if they were created

517
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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen thirties by a garden designer, because how

518
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<v Speaker 2>do you do that. You know, they don't have the

519
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<v Speaker 2>structure and maybe the clear design. So this is one

520
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<v Speaker 2>of the few places you can see her wild gardens,

521
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<v Speaker 2>and I think overall the garden is just a really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting study, much like we were saying about Fairchild in

523
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<v Speaker 2>what happens when an East Coast native or a Midwestern

524
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<v Speaker 2>native finds herself in the South. How do you marry

525
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<v Speaker 2>these concepts of the designs and gardens that you know

526
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and love with a totally different plant palette. And you know,

527
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<v Speaker 2>whereas in the Midwest or in the Northeast, you might

528
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<v Speaker 2>have a grand allet of oaks or Linden's or something

529
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<v Speaker 2>like that. Longview has a beautiful grand a lay of

530
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<v Speaker 2>live oaks, of course because it's New Orleans, gorgeous, just

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<v Speaker 2>a really really special place. It was extensively damaged during

532
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<v Speaker 2>Hurricane Katrina. They thought that they might have to close.

533
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<v Speaker 2>But fortunately the Garden Conservancy, which is a wonderful organization

534
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>who is doing so much to preserve American gardens. And

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk more about the Garden Conservancy when and

536
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<v Speaker 2>if we eventually get to California. And we talked about

537
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<v Speaker 2>the Ruth Bancroft Garden, but extensive damage at Hurricane Katrina.

538
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<v Speaker 2>They thought they might have to shut it down or

539
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<v Speaker 2>you know, even demolish it. But the Garden Conservancy stepped in,

540
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>volunteers stepped in, and they were able to renovate the

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<v Speaker 2>gardens and it is open for you to visit today.

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<v Speaker 1>Important to note there yes extensive damage during Hurricane Katrina.

543
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<v Speaker 1>They need help again, they need funds, they need volunteers

544
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<v Speaker 1>because they got belted this year. On June seventeen, am

545
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<v Speaker 1>hit by an EF one tornado and they are still

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<v Speaker 1>so there are parts of the garden that are currently closed.

547
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<v Speaker 1>They are open, but again they've sustained damage just recently

548
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<v Speaker 1>so what a wonderful place, fascinating you look at the

549
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<v Speaker 1>vista and the oaks. It makes me think of Gone

550
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<v Speaker 1>with the Wind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this was Yeah, this was a new home

552
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<v Speaker 2>that they commissioned in sort of their own unique style,

553
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<v Speaker 2>rather than take over some place that had been around

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<v Speaker 2>for a really long time. And I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm glad you brought that up about the tornado

556
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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times, depending on who you're traveling with,

557
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you go to these gardens and you might see in

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<v Speaker 2>an admission fee that gives you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a sticker shock. But cards are not easy to maintain.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of us can tell you that. I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>preaching to the choir here, and you know, having horticulturists

562
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<v Speaker 2>who know what they're doing, and having people, you know,

563
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<v Speaker 2>buying plants and the labor and all of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them maintaining herbariums and that sort of thing. Yes, so

565
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<v Speaker 1>very important.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't let something like a tornado at long if

567
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<v Speaker 2>you stop you from visiting. They need your money more

568
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>than ever, so please do make an effort. And the

569
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<v Speaker 2>house is open to you. So it's not just the garden,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously if the house and garden are connected. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to see the garden from the house. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just see the house from the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, and by the way, got to mention this

574
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<v Speaker 1>because I've driven through there. If you're going to visit Longview.

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<v Speaker 1>Right nearby is the National World War Two Museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people would question why is the World War

578
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<v Speaker 1>Two Museum in New Orleans not in Washington or someplace

579
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<v Speaker 1>like that. And it's because of mister Higgins who the

580
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<v Speaker 1>Higgins boats of World War Two. It was Dwight Eisenhower

581
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<v Speaker 1>who said it was Higgins boats that won the war

582
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<v Speaker 1>for them, these these landing crafts that allowed them to

583
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<v Speaker 1>put troops on shore distant shores. So that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>World War II National World War Two Museum is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Jackson Higgins of New.

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans, I did not know that. All right, All right,

587
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<v Speaker 2>now we are going to take a big leap north

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<v Speaker 2>to the Missouri Botanic Garden. Have you been to the

589
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<v Speaker 2>Missouri Botanic.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, Yes, I have, and the place is huge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have your good walking shoes ready to go.

592
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<v Speaker 2>Try to go on a nice day when it's not

593
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<v Speaker 2>you know, one hundred some degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is. Yeah, that's true, it can get very

595
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>warm there, but it's important that we touch on it

596
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<v Speaker 1>because it's I'm told, one of the nation's oldest botanical gardens,

597
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<v Speaker 1>open to the public in eighteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it was founded by a private citizen who

599
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<v Speaker 2>was out, you know, riding his horse, and said, hey,

600
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<v Speaker 2>this looks like a fine prospect. Yeah, and kind of

601
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<v Speaker 2>staked his claim and built various structures. In addition to

602
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<v Speaker 2>being one of the nation's oldest continuously functioning botanical gardens,

603
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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen eighty two Lineean House, a very old greenhouse,

604
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<v Speaker 2>is one of the oldest continuously operating greenhouses in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I looked at pictures of this whatever you

606
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<v Speaker 2>know picture you have in your mind's eye as a greenhouse,

607
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 2>get it out of there and look up the line

608
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<v Speaker 2>In house, because it is like nothing else I have

609
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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. It is so cool and so interesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>really I think says a lot about how steel, for example,

611
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<v Speaker 2>has changed the way that we can build. And then

612
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<v Speaker 2>when you see the actual conservatory, the newer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more contemporary conservatory at the Missouri Botanic Garden, what you

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<v Speaker 2>will notice is that it was one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>conservative conservatories built without internal pillars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fascinating. I think they call it the climate.

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<v Speaker 2>Trun yes, yeah, which does not do it justice. But

618
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have internal pillars, so you don't have these big,

619
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<v Speaker 2>you know, structural pillars kind of impede your views across

620
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<v Speaker 2>these very you know climate domes that they have for

621
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<v Speaker 2>all of the different areas. And that's something that's so

622
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<v Speaker 2>you know, natural to us. Now, of course it can

623
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<v Speaker 2>be built that way, but for it's time, it was

624
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<v Speaker 2>truly revolutionary, and especially when you contrast that with the

625
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Linnaean House. Now, one of the things that I think

626
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>is most important about the Missouri Botanic Garden, whether or

627
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<v Speaker 2>not you live within driving distance or will be driving

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00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 2>by it to visit, it is by far one of

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute best resources for North American home gardeners.

630
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got it for home gardening, the plant Finder resource,

631
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>all of that type of thing, the support that they provide.

632
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 1>They're committed to conservation science, awareness of plants. You bet.

633
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a great website. I can tell you

634
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I rely on it personally all the time to get

635
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>accurate information and to help me understand plants better. And

636
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>so whether or not you ever get to visit the

637
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Missouri Botanic Garden. Definitely visit their website. You may have

638
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>already visited it just because you searched for a plant

639
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 2>question and it came up. But I think one of

640
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<v Speaker 2>the best things that they are doing in their role

641
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>is quote the Nation's Botanic Garden, because that is kind

642
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of their sub headline. There is just providing us reputable

643
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>scientific information about plants and how to grow them that you.

644
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Can trust exactly. Oh and tied into that because you know,

645
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I love bulbs. They do a great job with bulbs,

646
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 1>spring and summer bulbs. Because now we've moved far enough

647
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>north into Missouri where they can do that, and wow, fabulous.

648
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 2>All right, we already have to take another Breakay, we

649
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>only got to two gardens. All right, We're going to

650
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>do that and when we come back, we'll have to

651
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 2>finish up the show. But we've got a couple more

652
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>great ones for you, so stay tuned. Thanks for listening

653
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. So much to

658
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 1>talk about, so little time to talk about it. As

659
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, next week we'll go to Chicago,

660
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the City of Big Shoulders Carl Sandberg, and boy, there

661
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>are some great gardens in the Chicago area. But Stacey,

662
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>let's jump over to where are we going Minnesota?

663
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, first, we're actually going to Indianapolis, Indiana. Yes, yeah, yeah, Now,

664
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 2>this is a garden that not a lot of people

665
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>have heard of it. In fact, the only reason I

666
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>had heard of it was because one of my colleagues

667
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 2>from horticulture school used to be the horticulturists there, and

668
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately I never got around to visiting her, which I

669
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>very much regret because she has since moved to a

670
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 2>wonderful garden in Maine. But Minnetrista was founded as the

671
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>home of the Ball family, as in Ball Job. Yes,

672
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>so they were originally founded in Buffalo, New York, and

673
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the whole family, all the brothers, all five of them

674
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I think there were up and moved to Muncie, Indiana,

675
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 2>just sort of north east of Indianapolis, and they all

676
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>built homes on this big property to run their glass

677
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 2>jar empire, but they were all into gardening and eventually

678
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 2>transitioned the garden to the public as a public garden,

679
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 2>so you can still see many of the Ball family's

680
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>original homes. There's all sorts of different unique gardens there,

681
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 2>sort of Midwestern home educated home gardening education and that

682
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. But what really fascinated me as part

683
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>of the American story, even though this isn't directly related

684
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to gardens, it kind of is. Minnietrista is where the

685
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Bob Ross Painting Show was films Wow, and it is

686
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 2>the only Bob Ross museum, the official Bob Ross museum

687
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>where you can actually see his paintings. You can see

688
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the studio where the show was filmed, because this is

689
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>actually in one of the homes of the Ball family,

690
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>so that's where they set up the studio. You can

691
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 2>see his palette, you can see his paint brushes and

692
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 2>all of this other wonderful stuff. So it's one of

693
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>those gardens that you know, like we all have ball

694
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>jars in our house, right, Like you can't even if

695
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't, can you don't not have a ball jar

696
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>in your house, you can't avoid it. I think it's

697
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>like a requisite of being in a arrangement exactly. And

698
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 2>so it was founded, you know, on those glass jars,

699
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and then then we get Bob Ross in here. So

700
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>just you know, America a land of contrasts.

701
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, happy birthday.

702
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 2>You know what. Speaking of birthdays, it's our two hundred show.

703
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>That's right, episode number two hundred. Not quite as old

704
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.599
<v Speaker 1>as the United States.

705
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 2>No, not in episode years, in episode years. Yeah, So congratulations,

706
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 2>a congratulations. I can't believe we've made it two hundred shows.

707
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Yeah, all right, Well we are going to

708
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>take a quick d two were we're not going in

709
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>great geographical order, but there was too much to say

710
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>about Chicago's We're going to say that for next week.

711
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>But we're going to be staying here in Michigan with

712
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the One the Only bell Isle.

713
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you can visit it. You're not going to

714
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 1>have an entry fee to visit the beautiful Nature Center

715
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 1>and the Pete Odolph Garden there. You will have to

716
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>pay to drive drive there. There's a state park.

717
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a state park. So if you have a

718
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>state park fee, if you have a state park pass

719
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 2>on your license plate, you can go there for free. Now,

720
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Belle Isle is a place that's truly near and dear

721
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>to my heart. My grandparents grew up in the Detroit area,

722
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>so it was a place that they took us a lot.

723
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>It was the first public garden that I was ever

724
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>at in my entire life. I clearly remember my very

725
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>first visit to the beautiful Anna Script's Whitcomb Conservatory with

726
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>my grandma, and it is still just as beautiful and wonderful.

727
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 2>But when I was reading about the history of Belle Isle,

728
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 2>I found out something really interesting. So it was originally

729
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 2>called Swan Island by the unnish Nabe people of Detroit,

730
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and it was its formation was attributed to Sleeping Bear.

731
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we all know about Sleeping Bear dunes up north.

732
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Sleeping Bear was the spirit he protected his daughter by

733
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 2>keeping her in a wooden box. Unlike Michigan. Now, for

734
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>those of you who are not native Michiganders or aren't

735
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.159
<v Speaker 2>familiar with what Michigan looks like, Michigan looks like this.

736
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<v Speaker 2>So Belle Isle is over here in the river between

737
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Canada and Detroit, way over here by the thumb, kind

738
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>of like Michigan is over here where we are. So

739
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty interesting to me that this, you know, group

740
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of Native Americans had the you know, this mythology over

741
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 2>clear over on the other side of the state. So

742
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Sleeping Bear was protecting his daughter over on like Michigan.

743
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>No one could get to her. The north and west

744
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>winds fought for her. It created a huge storm. It

745
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 2>swept up the box that he was keeping her in.

746
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Not a great dad move, I don't think. Pieces of

747
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it lodged at the mouth of the Detroit River and

748
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>they became one on another Swan island because of all

749
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>of the swans, And the legend says that the daughter

750
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>still inhabits the island in the form of a white dough.

751
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>So if you were ever on Belle Isle and you

752
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>see a white dough, I don't know what to tell you,

753
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 2>but it would be fascinating. There used to be deer

754
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 2>around on the island. I remember that from when I

755
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was a kid. But the thing about Belle Isle, as

756
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>far as it being a contemporary gardener, an important garden,

757
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it was designed by the one, the only, Frederick Law Olmsted,

758
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 2>because of course it was so it's really hard, I think,

759
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>to explain how in demand Frederick law Olmsted became after

760
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Central Park, like nobody could get enough of the guy.

761
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 2>This guy could not get to enough places. Every single

762
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 2>city wanted their own version of Central Park, and I

763
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>think it became basically like a bidding war to try

764
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to get Frederick law Olmsted to come and do a

765
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 2>project in your.

766
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>City, because Belle Isle is considered Detroit's backyard.

767
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and so it served very much a similar

768
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.360
<v Speaker 2>role that Central Park did, which was fresh air and

769
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>recreation for a burgeoning urban industrial climate. I mean, you

770
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>have to remember back in eighteen seventy nine when bell

771
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Isle was founded as a public park. You know, just

772
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 2>try to think about everything that was happening. All the industry.

773
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Detroit was making, stoves, Detroit was making I can't even

774
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>list all of the things. This was well before automobiles even,

775
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.159
<v Speaker 2>but Detroit was a massive industrial capital and it probably stunk.

776
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>It was dirty, absolutely, it was stinky. Everybody was working

777
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 2>in factories. So to have this place that if you've

778
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>ever been there, right, it's close ish to the city,

779
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's not in the city, so you're far enough

780
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>away that you can kind of get some fresh air.

781
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>It's in the river. And so he designed it it's

782
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>very different than Central Park, but some beautiful original features

783
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 2>like that gorgeous fountain. The bridge over to Belle Isle

784
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>is so so lovely and really, I think, and this

785
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is true of of many of the gardens that we've

786
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>talked about, and even just when we talked about Longview today,

787
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of transition, you know, when you're going down

788
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the long drive at Longview Gardens, when you're crossing the

789
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 2>bridge at Belle Isle, it starts to prepare you for

790
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>this really different experience that you're going to have, you know,

791
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>while you are in that garden. So it really does that. Now.

792
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>The Antascripts Whitcomb Conservatory was opened in nineteen oh four.

793
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 2>It is the oldest continuously operating conservatory in the US.

794
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>It has something that not enough if you ask me

795
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>public garden conservatories have. It has a fern grotto. Have

796
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 2>you been there? Have you been to the.

797
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember?

798
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it is just Adriana knows what I'm

799
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.679
<v Speaker 2>talking about because she's from the Detroit area too. It

800
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 2>is extraordinary and it's small, like I don't want to

801
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>build it up for people and they go, oh, is

802
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that all there is? And I will say both and

803
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>our other coworkers who are from Detroit had this similar experience.

804
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just a magical little space. Now, when I was young,

805
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>you could actually go down there. Now you can only

806
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of look over it. But it is a fern

807
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 2>collection and it's very much in keeping with this nineteen

808
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:12.719
<v Speaker 2>oh four style. And so many of these old conservatories

809
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 2>and gardens they kind of update, right they they become

810
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 2>more contemporary, they make changes. They say, oh, ferneries, you know,

811
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 2>that's so nineteen oh four. But they've really maintained it

812
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and it is just an extraordinarily beautiful special place. There's

813
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 2>really I've been to gardens all over the world, and

814
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the fernery at the Antiscripts wo Come Conservatory will always

815
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>have an extra special place in my heart. And you know,

816
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the conservatory itself is built so interestingly rout with a

817
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 2>fish pond around it.

818
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And part of what makes bell Isle so special

819
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 1>to me is Pete Odolf. And when we go to

820
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Chicago next week, we'll talk about the Leury Garden three

821
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>acre perennial garden there, thirty two thousand hardy perennials and grasses.

822
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Pete love to use ornamental grasses as structure

823
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>within a garden, So that's a great garden to visit there.

824
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Also it makes up three acres there.

825
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's right in front of the conservatory, so

826
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to go all over bell Isle to

827
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>see all of the wonderful gardens. I have not been

828
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>there to see the Pete Udolph Garden yet. I know

829
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it was off to a very slow start. Initially it

830
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>was delayed by funding and bell Isle has been a

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<v Speaker 2>place that has been be set by a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>different problems like that. But it seems like it's on

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<v Speaker 2>the right track now. It's absolutely worth a visit. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it was beset from initially funding problems, then COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>then flooding correct and then finally it has come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure it's still establishing because it's been around

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three or four years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's establishing. But it's the first public garden to incorporate

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<v Speaker 1>all three of Odolf's iconic planting styles, block matrix and

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<v Speaker 1>group planting. And again, I love Pete Odolph because he

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<v Speaker 1>sounds just like my ninety six year old there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch accent. I just love it. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is your dad as stylish as Peterodolpha.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very stylish. And as you said, there's a Carolon

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<v Speaker 2>on Bellisle. Bellisle really is almost like, you know, compared

847
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<v Speaker 2>to Central Park, which is kind of very sublime and massive,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have these moments of you know, even though

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the city, just kind of being lost in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>You never really lose that sense of connection to the

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<v Speaker 2>city in Detroit or at bell Isle, but it's still

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<v Speaker 2>there's just so much to do, and there is Carolin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the oldest continuously operating aquarium in the US, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love and Adriana is cheering on the bell Isle

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<v Speaker 2>Aquarium as well. If you grew up with a bell

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<v Speaker 2>Isle aquarium, there's just no substitute for it. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a lot of people would visit it and go

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<v Speaker 2>like really, but for those of us who grew up

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<v Speaker 2>with it, it is truly an extraordinary place. And just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not just saying this because it meant

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to me personally, but Michigan does not have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of public gardens by and large, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sadly we have very few compared to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other states that we've been through where we've had multiple

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll take what we can get, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Belle Isle is definitely something that we can be

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<v Speaker 2>proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely happy two hundredth episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, happy two hundred Yeah. Well, Rick, I have to confess,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we'd get a lot farther in the episode

871
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<v Speaker 2>today than we did, but you just can't stop us

872
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<v Speaker 2>from having.

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<v Speaker 1>Again just scratching the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we really are. As Adriana said, maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is just the show now. No, not really. We will

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<v Speaker 2>eventually be back to our regularly scheduled programming with lots

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<v Speaker 2>of good information about plants. But for now, we hope

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<v Speaker 2>you pick out some gardens that you've heard about, spend

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<v Speaker 2>a little time looking at them. Make sure you watch

880
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:41.760
<v Speaker 2>the YouTube version of the show so that you can

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<v Speaker 2>see all the photos and that kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana is including in the episode, so you can get

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<v Speaker 2>a little flavor of all of the amazing places that

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. So thanks Rick, thank you, thanks Adriana,

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks to all of you. We hope you have

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful week.
