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you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Morning? Bud? Doing well?

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Speaker 1: Dude? I got to ask you the super question. I'm

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here in Charlotte. You know we're surrounded by the Charlotte

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Motor Speedway. We can run up there to Morrisville anytime

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we want to. We are so spoiled in this section

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of the world, and especially when it comes to the

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toys of racing. When before you made that move to

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the to the to the booth, did you do the

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play by play inside your imagination? Because it seems like

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every time I get into a legend, or if I

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get into even just a go cart up around the

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Morrisville area, I am doing play by play the second

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I put my butt in that seat.

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Speaker 2: That's actually hilarious you mentioned that, because I absolutely have

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had times where I'm in the race and I'm making

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a move and in my head, I'm like, this is

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what the common tables are saying. And like when it

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was when I was working NBC in the pits, i

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would think about Rick Allen calling the move and it

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was so funny because I'd be like, I know exactly

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what he's saying right now. If they're watching me all

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my time, I've definitely done that.

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Speaker 1: And that walked through the pits. I wish the entire

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world would take the time to walk through that, because

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those are teams physically working. That is teamwork, that is actual,

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and it's so inspiring to be a witness of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the pit crews are insane athletes and just

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a reason that you know, they're usually college football players,

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baseball players, maybe occasionally some who have you know, tried

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to get in the NFL or the MLB and they

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want to keep that competitive juice is flowing and they

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end up in the pit crew realm. And you know,

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it's such an intense thing because they do this pit

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stop which happens in you know, in the Cup Series

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now ten seconds. That is incredibly you know, physically demanding.

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But they're also jumping in front of a car that's

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coming at them at sixty miles an hour or in

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set of you know, twenty cars. And the crazy thing

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I always say is like, imagine don't do this obviously,

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but imagine on a highway just walking out in front

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of everyone that's coming down that highway and thinking they're

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gonna stop. I know they're gonna stop. So it's insane

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what they do. And those guys, they're they're incredible athletes.

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And you know, the reason the pit stops have gotten

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to be twelve seconds in the Orailey Series and sub

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ten seconds in the Cup Series is because of the

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athleticism of the you know, the individuals are doing on

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those pictures.

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Speaker 1: Well see, that's the reason why I love what you

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would sew as well as the NASCAR Exfinity Series is

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giving to fans because if you can't get to Charlotte

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or if you can't get to Talladega and you want

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that pit row experience and you want to be on

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that right there at surface level, you guys are there.

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You totally freaking get it, Parker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do and you know, we get those cameras

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that are like right there in the pit box and

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you can see them hop off the walls the car's

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coming at them. And I think it does a good

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job of explaining it. But to your point, until you

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stood down there and seeing those seeing that in action,

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there's nothing like it, and the sounds that are happening,

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and just how loud it is, and the smoke and

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the you know, sometimes the brakes are on fire and

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sometimes the fuel light's on fire, and you know, you've

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got the lug nuts flying off on the five lug cars.

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It's it's insane and it looks you watch all happen

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in ten seconds and your mind can't even fully conceptualize

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it was fueled full of fuel, and it's gone, and

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you're like, what the heck just happened. So it's I

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do agree, it's one of the most insane visuals in sports.

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to try and show it on the TV, but untie,

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you've experienced it in person, it's hard to explain. Well.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is that if you miss it within seconds,

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you're gonna get a smell, and that's what you're gonna

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have for the rest of your life, is the smell

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of those tires.

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Speaker 2: Man, I know, burnt rubber. It's an addicting thing. I've

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been looking for a candle that could put that in

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my house, but I've never been able to replicate it.

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the burnt fuel, the burnt rubber and everything that just

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mixes together and doing intoxicating cocktails of smell that you're like, man,

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this is you just immediately think, oh, yeah, this is racing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the first thing you do is you start

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looking for the screen to find out, Okay, what did

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I just miss? And then and then to me, you're

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living in your past, and it's like, that's why you've

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got to pay attention. It's it's I think it is

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the fastest sport on the planet. I know they're hockey fans,

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but NASCAR Infinity is exactly the fastest sport on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know many sports besides motorsports that

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are going over two hundred miles an hour. So if

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they are, I think they've they've probably got bigger issues

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if they're going to nuber two hundred miles an hour.

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why I love motorsports. So I think it's one of

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the most unique sports in the world. I think it's

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one of the most beautiful sports in the world. When

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you think about this man in machine, this inanimate object

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that you're asking to do things it absolutely doesn't want

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to do, to try, and you know, go up against

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thirty eight or thirty nine competitors who want you to

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lose as desperately as they want to win, right, and

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so they're gonna only be one winner every weekend. And

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so I think it's just it's such a incredible sport

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in that sense. And that's what you know, drew me

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to it. It's why I love it. It's why I've

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spent my whole life in it, and it's something that

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you know, I intend to be a part of my

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entire life because I love it so much and I

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think it's so cool, and it's just got so many

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unique factors and features that you can't find anywhere outside motorsports.

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Speaker 1: And what you guys do with NASCAR's expanity on CW

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is the fact that you understand that there is a

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storyline there, and I say, I would love to be

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in a board meeting where you go, this is what

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we need to put our focus on, because if we

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don't keep that story alive and keep it moving forward,

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they're going to drop off. I don't want them to

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drop off.

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Speaker 2: I knew.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think you guys have mastered the cliffhanger. You know,

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how to keep us there and make sure that we

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don't check out during those commercials.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we try, you know, and I think for

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a lot of that is of course we you know,

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we have ideas as to what the storylines and that

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weekend are going to be. But the great part about

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live sports you can do all the preparation of the

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world and think you know how it's going to work,

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and then it, you know, flips it on the head, right,

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and you've got to be prepared to tell that next

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set of stories or how that happened or why that happened.

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across all sports broadcasting. For NASCAR, you know what's unique

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for us as all the teams play at the same

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time on the same field. Right, And so you've got

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to find the balance of trying to tell the most

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important stories on that day, maybe the stories of the

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season that are occurring that might not be as obvious,

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and so, you know, there's always a balance there. We

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try our best to strike it. I think, you know,

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last year we did a really really good job of that,

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and you can always get better and take it the

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next level. And so yeah, I think that's that's that's

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sports broadcasting in a nutshell. But it's for this sport.

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It's it's it takes a very dedicated group of people

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that we have on the CW that love the sport.

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They you know, built their lives around it. They would

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be watching if they weren't working in it. And because

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of that, they're passionate about it and it comes out

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in the broadcast and we're very lucky to have it.

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Speaker 1: Man, you've got to take me inside that helmet that

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you're wearing, the or your IFB. And the reason why

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is because the seed double you is so quick to

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go from seeing to scene to scene to corner, corner, corner, corner.

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Now let's go to the pits. I would love to

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know what it's like to have that if beyond when

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you're sitting there listening to everybody else, Okay, you're up

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boom and they're on, and then when they finish, now

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you're on and here you go, Parker, and then you

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pass it on. I mean it's like it's like holding

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on to an NFL football and you've you're going to

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take that ball across the line. It's just going to

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take a lot of players to get there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a ballot, it's a ballet in some respects.

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our producer Kill Combs, who are making these decisions, uh,

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in sync with what we're saying and seeing. And you know,

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it's it's always the whole team working in sync is

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the biggest thing. And you know when those moments happen

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where we're seeing something and as before we leave and

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get to saying it, they've moved the camera to that

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exact same because they're seeing the same thing we're seeing.

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for that balance and we you know, quickly had it

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with everyone at CW, which was a very really rare thing,

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and we've been able to build on that it's it's

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just such a fun thing when it all works out

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and the right you know, the right pictures are on

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the screen with what we're saying, and when those two

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gel and match up, it's a wonderful viewing experience. And

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you know, it's something we really pride ourselves on.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever get into that production team in the

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way that getting better control of those cameras because those

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things right now are identifying like an array of roses.

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The coloring is unbelievable, The up above shots are just spectacular.

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You're creating such an oh wow on the CW.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I'm gonna leave that to professionals.

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I've been in the control room for a lot of

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broadcasts and I can tell you it is complete and

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utter chaos, but controlled chaos in some respects. And you know,

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those those individuals who work in those control rooms are

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very talented what they do, and they, you know, take

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years to master it and understand exactly what they need

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to be looking at. And for those direct I mean

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they're looking at a wall of forty tiny ruttle streams

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that are showing all the different camera angles, and they

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are you know, calling out where to go and remembering

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where those cameras are and what those screens are, and

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it's just I mean, if you you get the chance

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to be in a control room for a live sporting event,

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especially NASCAR, I think it would blow a lot of

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people's minds what they're dealing with and what they're you know,

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the level they're operating at for such an extended period time.

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But the amount of focus and concentration is you know,

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rivals being in the actual race car in some respects,

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and the adrenaline is high because when you're when you're alive,

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it's you know, there is there is no takebacks, there's

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no rewinds, it's what happens happens, and so you know,

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you've just got to be working in sync and it's

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incredible to watch.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Parker Kleiegerman coming

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up next. CW's NASCAR Exfinity Series is back and we

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are back with Parker Klegerman. How are you exercising your

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skills as somebody who does the improv, because when you've

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only got let's say a thirty five second or a

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fifty second window, and you've got to be spot on

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there are no scripts, and people need to understand that

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there are no scripts. It's coming from your gut, yeah

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Speaker 2: And you know, for me, I've been very fortunate to

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off capacity and the thing about you know, some people

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nine years old. My family got cable and they had

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the Speed Channel and I saw racing for the first time,

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and I was like, I want to do that. But

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it was my only connection to racing. My family wasn't

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involved in or anything. So for many years, the only

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you know, connection and way I could consume racing was

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on the TV. And so when I got into TV,

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I would just think to myself, with nine year old

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Parker want to hear? What? What do you want to see?

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up on what they did all those years that got

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me so infascuated with this sport and to fall in

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love with it, and so I try to bring that

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same energy in that same passion and thought process to

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my own TV work. And I think the thing that's

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been a common thread for me though throughout it always

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is that I just love race cars. I love racing.

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I love race cars, and I'll love it for as

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long as I'm on this earth. And because of that,

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you know, if I wasn't on the TV, I would

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be watching. And so I make the joke sometimes, you know,

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they're like, why did you go on the booth? I

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was like, well, I'd already be watching the race. I

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might as well get paid to do it. So, you know, like,

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I'm just a big fan who happens to be one

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of the first to get to respond to what happens

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and to you know, to watch it with millions of

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others at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So now is that you're saying, Yes, I am a

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armchair quarterback NASCAR fan, And yeah, they actually chose me

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because they think I've got something to say. I mean

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it's because I because I think you're a fan first.

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That's what I feel first from you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I under said, now, that's absolutely me and really,

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I mean I would be watching, So I think put it.

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or on my phone or whatever, because I you know,

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I just love it, and so it's it's the only

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sport I loved. I don't really like other sports. It's

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not the only thing I watch and pay attention to.

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be at the right place the right time to get

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the opportunity to do it as a job as well.

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And so it's it's a very rare, unique thing that

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I'm very grateful to have, and you know, I just

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I really just have a lot of fun with it,

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and because I love it so much, and so I'm

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very fortunate to be in a position a.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's because of people like yourself there, Parker, that

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it's not that sport where the people of the past

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are long gone and forgotten. You get NASCAR or any

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type of racing, people together and they're going to bring

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their dad in, who race for this guy? Or was

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the mechanic for that guy? And all of a sudden,

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the stories and and all of the barbecue breakout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to say when racers get together and

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have a few drinks, they just talk about how awesome

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they are. So I think that's a pretty consistant theme

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in racing. I don't know why. Maybe it's in sports

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in general, but I can tell you no matter who

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in what forver racing or what they did in racing,

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when they get together, they like to tell racing stories

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and talk about how awesome they are. And yeah, that's

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I don't we don't quite do that on the TV

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as much, but we you know, we're we're watching in

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the same way that in the way we broadcast. I

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feel like in the booths with Adam Alexander and Jay

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McMurray's we make this joke all the time. It's like

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we would be saying the same things if we were

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hanging out on the couch watching this at all. Right,

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we just have to have michaelsphones in front of us,

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so it's it's overall. That's why I think makes it

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such a good time. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I wish people around the world

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could come to the Carolinas and just experience our back

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roads because we all know what that connection to moonshine

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and stuff like that. But until you get on those

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back roads and those dirt roads, now you understand why

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those early day drivers of NASCAR drove the way they did,

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and how today's drivers are just as just oh my god,

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they're just so into the game even more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great point. It really is.

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this all started and why it you know, continued to

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grow and what it became is that people love fast cars. Yes, right,

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they like the idea of driving fasts. Great roads are

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great roads, and so you know, that's what built many

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of the great grace tracks we have in America is

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that you know, people probably were looking at roads that

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they drove in their hometown and thought that that corner

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was really good. What if I made that into a

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corner on a racetrack. So it's like, yeah, that's a

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great idea, let's do it. And so I think those

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are some of the best racetracks there are is when

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they're designed that way. And I I definitely see that,

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you know, the the the knack for driving that you

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know you have out of the Southeast, and what built

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nascars is I think still there today because it's the history,

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it's the legacy of the sport and it's kind of

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the core thing that created what it is.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the body jerks when you're studying one

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of these games. I mean, when there's something going on.

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Let's let's just say that we're down there, you know,

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at the big, big track, and all of a sudden

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you're doing play by play. Do you jerk your body

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when you know somebody should have moved? Because I do.

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I'll sit there and I'll go, oh my god, I

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would have gone, I would have done right, And your

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body was in it before your mind jumped in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done that for sure. I find Jamie McMurray

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and I, you know, sit next to each other of

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the booth. We we hate each other in the arm

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often that's one of the non verbal communicate we have.

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But hey, look at this, why are they doing that?

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Or oh man, that was that was close? Or that

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was a good move, and yeah, I think you actually

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have those. And you know, one of the things that

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I think Jamie and I have often is when you

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see a really hard wreck, you know you having been

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in those moments and felt that, we have such visceral

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actions to it because we felt it before. And Adam

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will look at us and be like, I don't know

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if that looked that hard. We're like, oh, no, man,

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trust me, trust me like that. That hurt a lot.

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He'll be feeling that tomorrow. So it's like we just

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had that experience that allows us to know what they're

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going through, right, And I think that's something that in

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all sports, when you have those former athletes in the booth,

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you know, you can sense that because they go they

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go to that place in their mind where they felt

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that same thing or or you know, experience that same moment.

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And that's such a powerful thing because you know they've

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been there and felt that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the world is getting ready for Daytona. But

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I got to tell you something, and maybe it's just

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a Carolina thing, but the fact that you guys were

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in Winston Salem and you do North Wilkesboro and stuff

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like that still charges up my battery because those tracks,

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even though they're short tracks, My god, they bring that action.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super cool. You know, Northwolksboro is awesome. The

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history there is amazing. It's been really cool to see

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that place resurrected and the way it has and to

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know the O'Reilly series is going there, and I just

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think the vibe up there is awesome, and you know,

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the history is amazing and when you come upon that place,

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you can't help it sense the history and so definitely

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excited we're back there. You've got place that reminds you know,

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that place reminds me a lot of Martinsville, which is

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incredibly historic. So I love the short of tracks. I

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think they're awesome. They put on great shows. You don't

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need to eat a ton of speed to put on

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a great show, right with race cars, but they're going

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faster than anything else can go around there, which is

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pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know I'm gonna traps into time here, but

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the thing I just I have to ask you, with

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a people going two hundred miles per hour, does life

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move just as fast as it does for the rest

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of us or is it in slow motion when you're

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moving two hundred miles an hour?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess we'd have to get into the quantum

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physics series there to understand exactly how that's working. But

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I can tell you this. When you're at dates Hunter

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Toadeyga and you've been in the pack for you know,

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call it twenty laps, and you're racing at the front,

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you have no idea you're going two hundred miles an

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hour other than the idea that that you're you know,

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the sounds and the wind and all that stuff. But

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what's amazing is that when you go to pit and

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you slow down, yeah, suddenly become very apparent that you're

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going two hundred miles an hour. It's a very odd sensation.

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Speaker 1: Man, Come back to this show any time in the future.

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The door is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thank you, Bob, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Will be brilliant today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sir, we'll do we'll do.

