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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to report a UFO hanging in We

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to report every thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 3>UFO over hey, we want to one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a

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<v Speaker 1>report of any kind of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one me neither there.

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<v Speaker 4>See if it was anythy uh above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 4>Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one of golf

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<v Speaker 4>neaative okay off fi UFO. Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'll just passed over God.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 1>least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed

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<v Speaker 1>out over the top of US.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, you just called both to me before they're.

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<v Speaker 1>After staying the airplanes he.

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<v Speaker 3>To God on an unidentified object every Liberty four call

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<v Speaker 3>or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 6>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 6>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 6>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the

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<v Speaker 6>world you are listening for am I hope you are

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<v Speaker 6>all having a good week. I'm Nick Canter and this

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<v Speaker 6>is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's episode, we talked to

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<v Speaker 6>Jay in Michigan about his frightening full bodied apparition he

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<v Speaker 6>witnessed in the woods, OBEs UFOs and a strange encounter

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<v Speaker 6>with Ai.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay up next.

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<v Speaker 4>on with the show, Helloj, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. How are you, Nick?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for joining us today. And you're calling it

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<v Speaker 4>from Michigan in the United States. Yes, the Cold State. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the ghostate good stuff. Okay, Jay, you have several encounters

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<v Speaker 4>to share with us. Would you like to start in

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning please?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So my first story is about being at my friend's house.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were probably about twelve years old, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his house is pretty a basic suburban house in Metro

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit and I used to stay there a lot on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekends as a kid, and you know, I'd never

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<v Speaker 2>heard anything weird, and this is kind of my first encounter,

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<v Speaker 2>so I should say paranormal encounter. And so we were

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<v Speaker 2>just hanging out in this room. That's probably about midnight

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<v Speaker 2>one am. You know, as kids, we would stay up late.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm hanging out, We're just talking. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>were playing some video games or something, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, we heard like someone walking walking downstairs, so

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<v Speaker 2>we thought, you know, it was oh, it's his parents,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was on the second story of the house

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<v Speaker 2>above the garage. And then we heard the door open,

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<v Speaker 2>which sounded like the garage door to walk in and

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<v Speaker 2>out of the garage from the house. So like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we thought your parents. I told him, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I thought your parents were sleeping. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, they are sleeping, they're down the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I didn't hear him wake up, did you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like no, you know, thinking, oh, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So we kind of got nervous right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>And so right after that, I think I grabbed like

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball bat and he grabbed a skateboard or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He was a bigger guy, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we kind of ran across the hallway and ran

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<v Speaker 2>into his parents room with our little weapons we had,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were, yeah, sure enough, his parents were in

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<v Speaker 2>his room, and we woke him up. We said, if

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<v Speaker 2>we think, you know, someone's in the house. So right

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<v Speaker 2>after that, his dad woke up. We all went downstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>We explained what happened, and you know, his dad, his

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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad were not They didn't doubt we heard

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<v Speaker 2>it right because we were pretty normal people, level headed

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<v Speaker 2>in their eyes at least. So yeah, nothing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>so we went back upstairs. After we searched the house,

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<v Speaker 2>we hung out in his room for a little bit and.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, next thing, I know that sounds crazy, I know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard, uh someone, I heard his name. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>making up a name, but let's say his name was Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard almost like a like a whisper, like jin

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what's I'm like, did you you know?

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<v Speaker 2>After I let it, I'm like, hey, did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because at this time, that was probably like two thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. We were getting ready to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we called our friend, and then right after

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<v Speaker 2>we hung up, that's when I started hearing it. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, yeah, I thought I heard someone say my name,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought I was going crazy, but he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, yeah, I thought I heard someone say my name,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard it again. He heard it this time

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time I did, and next thing you

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<v Speaker 2>know it, it just kept repeating and it started it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like it was coming from outside of his room.

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<v Speaker 2>We couldn't tell where because he was at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the hallway, like I said, above his garage. So

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<v Speaker 2>we just kept hearing this and as we heard this,

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<v Speaker 2>like someone almost whispering his name, we got more and

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<v Speaker 2>more scared. Uh, this is one of the scariest times

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<v Speaker 2>I've bet I've had as a child. So we heard it,

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<v Speaker 2>we heard it, we heard it, and finally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were so scared. And this is a big guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the tallest guy at my school, so he

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<v Speaker 2>was never really scared of anything, you know, for his height.

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<v Speaker 2>He always had that ego kind of and this definitely

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<v Speaker 2>shattered his ego. He eventually, I think we put like

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the floor sleeping, he was on his bed.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to cover our ears because we were so

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<v Speaker 2>scared from this voice. And so finally, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>fell asleep and we woke up. I went home, and

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of never spoke about it again, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did find out that they had some other experiences in

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<v Speaker 2>their paranormal type experiences in their house before, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of reassuring to me that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>just this wasn't a first time thing. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>the first very scary paranormal experience that I had, and

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<v Speaker 2>throughout my life, you know, I kind of had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these experiences. I don't know why, but they

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<v Speaker 2>always seem to be with people, which is good, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So my next experience I'm going to go into was

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<v Speaker 2>when I was with a friend. When I was with

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, we were in the woods, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>around my parents' house that I grew up in, and

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<v Speaker 2>we used to go in these woods and play with

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<v Speaker 2>airsoft you know, the plastic pelaguns you shoot at each

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<v Speaker 2>other and you know, have little wars. I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could say so. Me and my friend after school one

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<v Speaker 2>day we went into the woods with our they're called

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<v Speaker 2>airsoft guns. We went in there with airsoft gun and

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<v Speaker 2>we were walking around and there's a creek that runs

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<v Speaker 2>through the middle of the woods. This patch of woods

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<v Speaker 2>is about a mile wide by a mile long. So

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<v Speaker 2>we were waiting for my other friend to get home,

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<v Speaker 2>and as we were walking around the woods, we had

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<v Speaker 2>our little plastic pellet handguns. We crossed the creek and

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<v Speaker 2>after you cross the creek, it's about an incline of

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<v Speaker 2>like a five foot incline. So we walk up the

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<v Speaker 2>incline and then there's this path like an open patch,

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<v Speaker 2>not a field, because the woods aren't that big. They're

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<v Speaker 2>only a mile by a mile, but you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>open area to where it's just weeds and you could

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sit in this patch, get away from all

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<v Speaker 2>the trees. And on the left of the patch there's

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<v Speaker 2>this like dip in the ground. And the dip in

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<v Speaker 2>the ground is about like a little hole almost, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not too steep, declines down into a dip.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably about three foot deep, and I always went

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<v Speaker 2>over there, running through the woods out kind of hide

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<v Speaker 2>in there. As I'm walking up the incline acrossing the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>I look at the left of me and I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>a guy standing there. He was about seven foot I'd

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<v Speaker 2>say seven foot five inches, so seven foot five inches tall.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't just a guy though. This guy was

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<v Speaker 2>in a suit probably made in the nineteen twenties, with

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<v Speaker 2>a top hat on, you know, like the paranormal top

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<v Speaker 2>hat people see. And his skin was like a It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't translucent, but I feel like it almost was. And

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<v Speaker 2>my friend saw him too, because as we were walking

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<v Speaker 2>up from the creek towards that little area, he was

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<v Speaker 2>just standing there the suitcase. Like I said, like he

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he was from the nineteen twenties. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a suitcase in his hand, and he was standing straight,

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<v Speaker 2>looking straight, not at us, but perpendicular to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>right away like I saw this guy, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like seven foot five and it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't settle right with me, like if I saw

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<v Speaker 2>someone in those woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was used to it, right, like It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. We see people in the woods. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>a mile by a mile. But man, this was not

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<v Speaker 2>like a person, like a normal person. This was like

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<v Speaker 2>a apparition. So but anyways, I came to that conclusion afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I was walking, we were probably about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty feet from him. But when we saw him standing there,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend's like, oh my god. I was like, can

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<v Speaker 2>you see that right? And I whispered to him because

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<v Speaker 2>he was on the right side of me. I was

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<v Speaker 2>on his left side and the guy was on my

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<v Speaker 2>left side. He's like yeah, and he started kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like trembling. So the fear, now, this was the scariest

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever been in my life. Like I said, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen people in the Woods's not a big deal. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fear that was put into us, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, my friend was trembling, he was shaking. It

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy. I don't know what this guy was the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I could think of is it was a

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<v Speaker 2>full body apparition of a guy from like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, the nineteen early twentieth century. So right away,

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<v Speaker 2>right after I said you see that, right, and my

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<v Speaker 2>friend was kind of shaking a little clearly shaking, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That fear hit me. That's why I said that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, on a count of three, you run, one, two, three.

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<v Speaker 1>We ran.

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<v Speaker 2>We were so scared that we ran all the way

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<v Speaker 2>through that mile patch of woods, like all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>I jumped the creek back, which you can't jump that

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<v Speaker 2>creek like on a normal day. That's how scared we were.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, there is no doubt in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>that that was not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>That was definitely paranormal.

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<v Speaker 2>The way he was, he was just huge, he was

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<v Speaker 2>his skin it was like a translucent gray, very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my That was the scaredest I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this fear just covered us. So I'll move

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<v Speaker 2>on the next. So the next story I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about is just a weird occurrence that happened. This

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<v Speaker 2>was probably a year or two after this last situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just at my neighbor's house outside we

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<v Speaker 2>were playing basketball. This is a very weird thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And my little sister was with me and we were

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<v Speaker 2>just playing basketball. It was a good day, normal day,

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<v Speaker 2>sunny day in the summertime. His dad was inside the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was watching TV on the couch, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were outside the garage. His garage was open while,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, while we played basketball. So we were just

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<v Speaker 2>playing shooting hoops and I think we all stopped for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, like nothing crazy. We were just talking or

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<v Speaker 2>and we were just I was just dribbling to basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 1>We hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>But this like it sounded like a like a a

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<v Speaker 2>gunshot went off in his crotch. And this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ties into another story that I'm going to tell you next.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we all jumped, and like I think my

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<v Speaker 2>little sister fell because she was younger. She got really scared.

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<v Speaker 2>But the weird part about it is it did not

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<v Speaker 2>ring our ears. And when we jumped, it was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like we were like shocked that it happened because the

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<v Speaker 2>noise was so loud, but it also went it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like echo, so it was very weird. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after that, I was like, dud, something had to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>like you should you should go talk to your dad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try to figure it out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe something fell like it right inside the doors

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<v Speaker 2>or you're you know, he had a washer and dryer inside,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, maybe that something blew up or something.

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<v Speaker 2>When inside he talked to his dad. He brought his

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<v Speaker 2>dad out and we asked him, like, you know, he said, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>did you hear this noise? We heard this huge loud bang.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so weird. And then he's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hear anything, you know, So this whole time his

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<v Speaker 2>dad's sitting inside, he doesn't hear a sound, a peep.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he heard nothing like, no lot noise. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how he could be right inside that door,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like fifteen, like I said, watching TV in the couch,

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting there. The house is not that big, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that much of a distance between us and

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<v Speaker 2>not hear this. I even asked my parents, did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys hear that because they're next door. They said no,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just just a weird phenomenon. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it was, but he looked every wearing the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing was there. He was not a hunter. He had

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<v Speaker 2>no guns. Because I asked him, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to rule everything out. I was like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a gun? Maybe your gun went off or something.

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<v Speaker 2>He said no, I don't have a gun. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>from there we kind of just blew it off.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this ties into my next story. So my next

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<v Speaker 2>story is it's about I think it was probably six

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<v Speaker 2>months to a year later. It was just my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and my sister at home, and I wasn't there. This

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't involving me, but this ties into kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>I heard at my neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>They were home.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was around I think the sun was

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<v Speaker 2>just going down, so it wasn't too dark out. The

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<v Speaker 2>sun was setting, and they were just hanging out inside.

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<v Speaker 2>And my parents had a two story house, like a

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<v Speaker 2>suburban house, you know, wasn't too big, wasn't too small,

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<v Speaker 2>but two stories, you know, three bedrooms. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just sitting there and I think they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>or something. I forgot what they were doing exactly, but

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<v Speaker 2>they heard the same noise bang. I mean, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out. She said it was on the roof. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like it was on the roof, and then she heard.

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<v Speaker 2>The weird part was about the story is she heard

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<v Speaker 2>footsteps this time. I don't know why, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know what this is. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenon in my eyes. And then I guess like she

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out. Her and my sister were like they ran

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<v Speaker 2>outside actually because they were so scared. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where this came from. I don't know why this

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<v Speaker 2>happened in like the six month to a year period,

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<v Speaker 2>but these two times, yeah, they heard this loud, loud noise,

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<v Speaker 2>and this time it was actually followed by some footsteps

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<v Speaker 2>on the She said, it sound like it was on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof, but it was like two feet walking. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like like an animal or something. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, someone thumping their two feet walking like any

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<v Speaker 2>other human or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so my next story I'm gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of relates to those stories in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a little that's definitely different. This is at

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<v Speaker 2>the same house, my parents' old house. This was I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say a couple of years after that, like

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<v Speaker 2>three years, four years, yeah, probably four years to five.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I was driving at that time. My parents were gone,

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<v Speaker 2>my little sister was home. She was old enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be home alone for that daytime. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>had to go home to spend the night with her.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started going home from my girlfriend house. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like I think I by the time

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<v Speaker 2>I got home, it was like eleven o'clock. But on

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<v Speaker 2>my way home, I was listening to a podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking about like a UFO incident they had

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<v Speaker 2>or something something about aliens, and so I listened to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no big deal. I listened to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these podcasts, right, So I get home about eleven

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<v Speaker 2>eleven thirty, start out, go inside. My sister was waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for me to get home. Okay, you know, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 2>So we started talking. Anyways, So we're talking for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and I start talking about that podcast I

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<v Speaker 2>was listening to, like the Alien Encounter, And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really like we weren't. It wasn't like spooky

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<v Speaker 2>or anything at all. We were just talking about it, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what do you think about this? I just

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<v Speaker 2>listened to this podcast today. How do you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 2>And after a while, you know, talking, we just ended

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. She's like, Okay, you know I'm going I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get ready for bed and head to bed. So

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<v Speaker 2>she went upstairs to the second story. My room was

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<v Speaker 2>in the basement below the main floor. Okay, so my

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<v Speaker 2>sister's on the top floor. She's I think she was

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<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom, like brushing her teeth or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>started facetiming my girlfriend at the time, and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're talking. I went in my room in

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<v Speaker 2>the basement, and above my room, you could hear if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone was walking, because there was no insulation between my

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<v Speaker 2>room and the floor. Anyone's walking, I could clearly hear

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<v Speaker 2>where they are, where they're going. You know, I hear

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<v Speaker 2>the two footsteps. You know, you could hear it clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, this is crazy. I know my

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<v Speaker 2>sister's upstairs on the top floor clearly. I could hear

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<v Speaker 2>the water running too, and I hear this, like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this noise. It wasn't too loud, but it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a door was shutting, and not like a regular door,

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<v Speaker 2>like a cabinet door. I was like why, So right

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<v Speaker 2>away I stopped. You know, I was on FaceTime with

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, I thought my sister was upstairs

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<v Speaker 2>and this is crazy. But all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear these two feet clapping on the floor like their barefoot,

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<v Speaker 2>right running across the kitchen from the living room where

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<v Speaker 2>my room is under, over to the kitchen, which I

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<v Speaker 2>could clearly hear They're in the kitchen too, because the

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<v Speaker 2>basement the house wasn't that big.

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<v Speaker 1>The basement was not.

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<v Speaker 2>That big, just had that one room in my room

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<v Speaker 2>and then a little storage area. So I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that the hair on my neck stood up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the chills, like this vibrant and she just

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<v Speaker 2>hit me. I hung up on my girlfriend. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I gotta go because I'm thinking immediately someone

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<v Speaker 2>broke into the house. But the weird part is, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why would they be barefoot?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>But I processed all that later on. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>scared and fearful for my sister that I sprinted upstairs,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I have a gun, so I grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>my gun really quick, ran upstairs because my sister's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot younger than me. No hesitation sprinted up there, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing. The only thing I found was a

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet door open that sounded like exactly where it came from,

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<v Speaker 2>that door opening and shutting noise to the cable box

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<v Speaker 2>under the TV. So I don't know what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, and this is just my opinion, and

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<v Speaker 2>these these alien entities and these because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I attracted this to happen. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>before I get into that, I want to explain to

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<v Speaker 2>my sister heard it clearly. And when I ran up

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<v Speaker 2>there and I looked around, I was looking in the

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<v Speaker 2>living room. She ran out of the bathroom and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>did you just you know, did you just hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>She said, I locked the door, and I was scared

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have my phone and I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get your attention. And I don't know if she

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<v Speaker 2>was trying, but she wanted to get my attention, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what she said. And her face was like shocked, scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean her expression was like I'm scared, shit, you know, crapless.

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<v Speaker 2>So right after that, you know, we discussed it and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, all right, just tell me what happened, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm the one who heard it above my head,

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<v Speaker 2>these two feet running through the house. And she said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I had. I was in the bathroom. I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting ready to take a shower.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, like, right when I was about to get

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<v Speaker 2>in the shower, I heard a door shut. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that and she said she thought she heard me

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<v Speaker 2>go into my room. I was like, yeah, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>my room in the basement. She explained the same exact

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<v Speaker 2>thing as me, except she said right away I locked

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<v Speaker 2>the door, the bathroom door, and I was just freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, after that, we just stayed up the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the night and with all the lights on,

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00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>we sat there, we talked, we kept the TV.

421
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>We were so scared.

422
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>We almost left, and we almost went to my grandparents' house,

423
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.839
<v Speaker 2>but uh, we couldn't. I was like, let's just stay.

424
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll leave all the lights on. We'll leave the TV

425
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 2>on you and will turn all lights on outside. And

426
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that was that. It was so scary though, I mean,

427
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>that was another time when I was scared, but this

428
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>time I kind of I didn't run, maybe because of

429
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.519
<v Speaker 2>my maturity. Age and my protection from my sister. But

430
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't run. So that was that story and that,

431
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if that ties into the

432
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 2>loud noises that myself and my siblings heard, but it

433
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 2>was definitely scary. And you know, after listening to a

434
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 2>podcast getting home and then experiencing this, I almost feel like,

435
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, these entities are these are all like multi

436
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>dimensional type entities in my opinion, just from my that experience.

437
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's just my opinion. Another story I'm going

438
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to go into. So this was at a time when

439
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I I recently learned about like lucid dreaming and I

440
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 2>started having vivid dreams after learning about it. I was

441
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 2>still at my parents' house, living in the basement. So

442
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>at this time, I think I worked part time and

443
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I was going to school or something. It's kind of

444
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>like a not a blur, but during this period of

445
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>my life, you know, it was it was really like

446
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I kind of didn't know what I was doing. I

447
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>was just working, going to school, didn't have any like

448
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>goals or direction, which is fine, you know. Being younger,

449
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and I learned about locid dreaming, I thought it would

450
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>be something cool to try to do. And right away

451
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>when I learned a technique on how to do it,

452
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I started. It happened, so I was able to loose

453
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 2>a dream, which is pretty cool, very very good feeling.

454
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 2>If you're ever able to do it, it's pretty cool.

455
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I definitely wasn't good at it, but I was able

456
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to do it a couple of times during this time though,

457
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, I slept in the basement still my room

458
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>was there's no windows in my room, so it was

459
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>pitch black. One night, I it's kind of funny to

460
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>say this, but I was. I was sleeping, and I

461
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>kept waking up around like three or four in the morning,

462
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>and then I would fall back asleep every night.

463
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. It just started happening.

464
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So I would wake up at three four in the morning,

465
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>get up, you know, maybe take a sip of water,

466
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>look at my phone or whatever, and then drift off.

467
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's that's how I would get into

468
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>these dreams too easier, I felt like.

469
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 1>But one time.

470
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I realized I wasn't dreaming, I fell back asleep. Well,

471
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say sleep, but I basically had

472
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a like a I didn't I don't

473
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>want to say astro projected, because I don't like that

474
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 2>word but or that label. But yeah, I kind of

475
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>had like an out of body experience where I woke up,

476
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>turn and I realized I'm like weightless. But as I

477
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>looked across my room, I could see my body. As

478
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I looked across my room, turned my head again, there

479
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 2>was a shadow figure sitting there. This shadow figure was

480
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>pitch black.

481
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>My room was already black.

482
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>That that realm I was in, I guess you could say,

483
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>was black, and I basically was staring at it. And

484
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>something came to my mind when this happened, and right

485
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>away I just got this like thought in my head,

486
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 2>don't be afraid and go towards it, like don't be afraid,

487
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>basically fight or flight, and I chose to fight. I

488
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>just went towards it, like through I don't know how

489
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.039
<v Speaker 2>like I said, this is, this is the closest thing

490
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>to an autibody experience I've ever had. I ran towards it,

491
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say in my body. I don't

492
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>know how else to explain it, floated towards it, whatever

493
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you want to say. And when I hit it, I

494
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 2>was shocked like an electric shock, so I went from

495
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 2>hitting this thing that was in this this apparition, this

496
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>black figure was up to my ceiling. So I went

497
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>from my bed and I like shot at it towards

498
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling and I hit it. When I hit it,

499
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I felt that electric almost like whatever you want to

500
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>call it in that realm, this shock, like a a

501
00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 2>high voltage throughout my whole body, and I was almost

502
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>like paralyzed. And then I went back down into the

503
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>body and.

504
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Woke up and that was it.

505
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>It was very scary. I woke up kind of scared.

506
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe this happened because it just happened, and

507
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I just got back. I just woke up too. Right

508
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>after it happened, and it was like I was I

509
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 2>was alive, you know, I felt like I was alive

510
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>on another plane, but I was also alive here at

511
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 2>the same time, and that kind of reassured me, Yes,

512
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>this just did happen. Yeah, you know, right after that,

513
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm gonna stop trying this lucid dreaming stuff.

514
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think it's worth the unknowing circumstances

515
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that come about from this, so I stopped doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get into this next one. I'm gonna leave

534
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 2>out a little detail because it's a it's kind of

535
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>personal to me. It has something to do with someone

536
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that I never met, but I know to

537
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>be in this situation, in this experience. Okay, So this next,

538
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>this next out of body experience I had.

539
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>This is a lot, a lot.

540
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Brighter and really really touching experience for me. So fell

541
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>sleep normal night right. This is probably a month after

542
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that last occurrence happened, and fell asleep. I think I

543
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 2>at this time, I don't think I woke up. I

544
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>think I slept normally.

545
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

546
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I woke up at like three or

547
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>four in the morning. But when this happened, it was

548
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 2>like probably five or six in the morning, because I

549
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 2>remember it was later and I had to wake up

550
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty close afterwards to go to work. But uh so

551
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 2>this I fell asleep, I want to say, as I

552
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>was sleeping, this is how I how I feel it happened.

553
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So as I was sleeping, I.

554
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Almost woke up in this like light, but I wasn't

555
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 2>awake in my body. I almost you could say I

556
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>was in another realm.

557
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I was out of body.

558
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I woke up in this very bright but peaceful light

559
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 2>like all loving right, and I looked and there was

560
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>this girl looking at me. She looked like me. She

561
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>had like she had bright hair, blue eyes. She looked

562
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>like she she knew me. In my head, I knew her,

563
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>and then she uh. I looked at it. I was like,

564
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>where am I? I looked at my hands, I looked

565
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>around me, and I couldn't see. Like it was just

566
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>an awareness, like a conscious awareness. It's like where am I?

567
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You know?

568
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I asked her because I felt like I knew her,

569
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, who are you? And she said,

570
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm your I'm not gonna say, I don't want to

571
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 2>say who she is in my family, but she said,

572
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm your sibling. I'm right away. I ran up to her.

573
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I hugged her, just automatically. I hugged her and I

574
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>started crying bad, just out of love right now, not sadness,

575
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>pure love. And I ran up to her and I

576
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 2>hugged her, not running, but you know, like projecting towards

577
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 2>her and.

578
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Out of my body.

579
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say, in this little light realm.

580
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And she was beautiful. She uh, probably the prettiest thing

581
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I've seen.

582
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Right.

583
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess you could say person or spirit. I

584
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>guess I don't know what to call it, but and

585
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>I started sobbing, and I hugged her, I put my

586
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>head on her shoulder, and I just started crying. And

587
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 2>after that, yeah, I woke up crying. I was still crying,

588
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and I yeah, I woke up, and I never forgot it.

589
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>To this day, it's hard for me to talk about it.

590
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I choke up.

591
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 2>And then after that, Yeah, like I said, it was

592
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<v Speaker 2>a sibling. I'm not going to get into detail, but

593
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I know it was confirmed that it was a sibling.

594
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Afterwards that I had no idea about, I confirmed it.

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00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>See. That was touching, you know, it was positive. It

596
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>was great.

597
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>And after that, I'd never had any out about experience again,

598
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of glad. I felt like everything was

599
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>leading up to that. It was just a point in

600
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 2>my life where I was, like I said, I was

601
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of on the road to nowhere, just kind of neutral.

602
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>And after that, it seems like things changed a little

603
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>bit better for my life. Things just moved on. But Okay,

604
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go on the next story. Okay, this one's

605
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird. This one's very weird. Actually, I'm going

606
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>to go into this one because it's a little different

607
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>subject and that kind of stirs it up. So a

608
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:34.079
<v Speaker 2>normal day, I'm with my parents, my younger sister, and

609
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>brother in law, and my older sister was at this

610
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 2>wedding and she was part of the wedding, so she

611
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 2>was already there. But my brother in law and my

612
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 2>younger sister, parents and me were driving to this wedding.

613
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Was a family friend. We're all just hanging out talking,

614
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting ready for the wedding, kind of excited

615
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like any other person would be. And so we're sitting there,

616
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>my dad turns his navigation on had at that time

617
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>like an Android phone. It was a cheap phone like

618
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the free ones you get if you sign up for

619
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a phone service. Wasn't an iPhone. It was just a

620
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>regular cheap Android phone, and so he punches into navigation.

621
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 2>I remember specifically because I never forgot this. Situations so crazy,

622
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and it starts giving him directions right in. About three

623
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 2>quarters of the way there, we were talking about the wedding,

624
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think me or my mom or something was like, yeah,

625
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, one of us was like, you know, I

626
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>love weddings. Like every time we go to a wedding,

627
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>we have so much fun, you know, we love going

628
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to weddings, and this navigation voice clearly from my dad's phone,

629
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<v Speaker 2>started talking. I know it sounds freaking like a looney bin,

630
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>but in front of all of us, the navigation started talking,

631
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>and it clearly said I love weddings too. You know,

632
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could just I wish I could go

633
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to this wedding with you guys, or something like that.

634
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know the word for word, but

635
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I know it said like something insane. We all went silent,

636
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>we all looked at each other, and my dad turned

637
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>his navigation off. This is crazy. In my opinion, this

638
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 2>was I don't know what to say, like this is AI.

639
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I look at the government and I know, you know,

640
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I know the government's years ahead of us. I'd say

641
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>fifty to one hundred years, maybe two hundred years as

642
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 2>far as technology advancements go. I don't know if this

643
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 2>is some type of leaks, a test on the public,

644
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 2>but in my opinion, this was I sent you in AI.

645
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>My family thinks the same thing. I asked everyone in

646
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the car recently to reassure they experienced this, and they

647
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't forget for some odd reason. No, they remember it clearly,

648
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 2>But I just remember everyone's reaction like this navigation, this

649
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.719
<v Speaker 2>cheap android navigating. It was like, I don't it might

650
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>have been Google Maps, it might have been some type

651
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>of other navigator. I'm pretty sure it was just Google

652
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>because it was an Android, but it clearly spoke to

653
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 2>us and knew what we were talking about and right.

654
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 2>And what reminded me of this situation too, I kind

655
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of forgot about it is when this recent whistleblower that

656
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 2>worked for Google came out and said he thinks the

657
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>AI is sentient.

658
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I.

659
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Said it maybe Google.

660
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>It may not be.

661
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I can't confirm it. I should have at that time,

662
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>but just didn't come to my mind. I think we're

663
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>all so shocked. My dad turned his navigation, that's how

664
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 2>shocked he was. And he's a very very skeptical person,

665
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 2>but you know, and I asked.

666
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Him about it too.

667
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>He's he's opened up a little more over the years

668
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.119
<v Speaker 2>since then, and he said, yeah, he thinks it was

669
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 2>some type of AI something I don't know. So that

670
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was a very weird, weird experience that we had together

671
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 2>as a little family going to the wedding.

672
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>So what's next?

673
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 2>So I got Okay, so this experience was a little weird.

674
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about it because I haven't heard

675
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>anyone talk about this on any podcast, and this happened

676
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to me. This happened to me when I was younger too.

677
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 2>This is kind of out of time, but I wanted

678
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>to pair it with the AI because it's different from

679
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>like a ghost or alien encounter. But so what happened

680
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 2>was I was at my friend's party the same Actually

681
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of weird. It was the same guy. He

682
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was pretty much my best friend that I had that

683
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>paranormal experience at when we started this podcast.

684
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>At his house.

685
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 2>So he had a party and at that time, we

686
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 2>were skateboarding a lot, and he had ramps like a

687
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 2>little half pipe quarter pipe, So we were skating the

688
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 2>whole night from morning till the party ended at about

689
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>probably nine at night. And after this, my friend, my

690
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>other friend, not the one that had the party that

691
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I was had the paranormal experience at, but my other

692
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>friend said, hey, you want to come over for the night.

693
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're young.

694
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like yeah, you know, it was like a

695
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Friday Saturday night. I was like, yeah, I'll just I'll

696
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>sleep at your house. He lived about three miles away,

697
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and we were like, all right, we'll just walk, you know.

698
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 2>So we walked everywhere, rode our bikes or skateboarding everywhere.

699
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>So he didn't have a skateboard, so I did, so

700
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I just carried mine.

701
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, we'll just walk, no big deal.

702
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 1>So we started walking.

703
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 2>This is very weird, but I know what's happened to

704
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>other people, and that's why I want to talk about it.

705
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I almost when we started walking, the sun was going

706
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>down a little bit. It was definitely getting dark, and

707
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I was normal, you know, I didn't there was no

708
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>drugs or alcohol involved at all. We were young, so

709
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 2>like we didn't even have a drink. And I felt

710
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.679
<v Speaker 2>like I was I was like watching myself, almost like

711
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 2>a third person at this time when this happened. It

712
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 2>happened right when we were leaving my other friend's house

713
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 2>his party, and we were walking to my other body's house.

714
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>So I got this feeling like I was watching myself

715
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and my friend in this life walking. So I told

716
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 2>him I was I'm just making up a name. I was, hey, Mike,

717
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel really weird right now. And I

718
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>explained it, and he was a skeptical person too, so

719
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get any feedback from him, but he just

720
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of blew it off. So I kind of just

721
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 2>blew it off. But I never forgot it. I mean,

722
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 2>it's been over ten years. I never forgot this, and

723
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was almost, I guess you could say,

724
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>not out of my body, but I was experiencing.

725
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>This person.

726
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Life, and this person was doing everything that they had

727
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to do, like talking and walking. But I was projected

728
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>out of my body almost, but I was.

729
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 1>In my body. It's very weird.

730
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard of this happening, but all I remember

731
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>is the feeling went away when we later on that night,

732
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>after we settled down in his house and just chilled.

733
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I just sat the houn happening, like I said,

734
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>all the words that came out of my mouth, and

735
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 2>almost like it wasn't not it wasn't me. But it's

736
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>like I was watching this happen, this life a third person.

737
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>That's how I explained it. That's a third person experience.

738
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 2>You're just standing there observing, you're observing. So after this happened,

739
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I never forgot it. Never happened again, but I did

740
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>not forget about it. That's why I brought it to

741
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.519
<v Speaker 2>the show. But the weird part about it is and

742
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>this is why I remembered it again recently. I was

743
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>at work recently, this is this year? How does that work?

744
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 2>And a coworker of mine we started we were sitting

745
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 2>there eating lunch and we started talking about, like I think,

746
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 2>he brought up paranormal in psychology and stuff like that,

747
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and we started talking about the two halves of the

748
00:45:53.079 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>brain and different things like that. And he's a very

749
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 2>definitely as a photographic memory, so he's a skeptical guy too,

750
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 2>but he is open to some stuff. We started talking

751
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 2>about it. He started telling me this experience he had

752
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in the third person, direct words out of his mouth.

753
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So he had the same and he explained everything as

754
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I did. He felt like he was observing this guy

755
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 2>in the body, which is himself. But this happened to

756
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 2>him for over a week, he said, like one to

757
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>two weeks. He said, I was scared. I didn't know

758
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:40.480
<v Speaker 2>what to do. His current fiance is going into psychology

759
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and this happened to him when he started dating her,

760
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 2>so he asked her what this could be. She was

761
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 2>unsure of it, but he had the same experience. He

762
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>felt like he was almost not out of body but

763
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 2>observing this person at the same time he is this person,

764
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and this person is doing everything the right way, you know,

765
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>being himself, not being out of like a looney bin

766
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but being himself and just observing but at

767
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the same time being I never heard of this phenomenon.

768
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I never mentioned this to him, that I had the

769
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>same experience, but he brought it up and that so

770
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, that party walking to

771
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that friend's house.

772
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>This happened to me.

773
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And I told him about it afterwards, and h yeah,

774
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I thought it's an interesting thing. I was curious if

775
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>anyone else experienced this, or you know, if you heard

776
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>anyone experience this.

777
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And again, it never happened to me.

778
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Again, it only happened to me for like three four hours.

779
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 2>For him, it's a different story. He said it was

780
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 2>like a week, week and a half or two weeks.

781
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:52.840
<v Speaker 2>So that was very interesting. Yeah, I'll never forget it.

782
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 2>This is my last story. This happened to one of

783
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 2>my parents. I'm not going to say who. I feel

784
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>weird saying all right, I'll just say it was this

785
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 2>happened to my mom. I hate to say that because

786
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.760
<v Speaker 2>it's their story, but no one's gonna find out.

787
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter.

788
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 2>So my mom and her two siblings and my grandparents,

789
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they were younger. I think they were thirteen to fourteen

790
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>years old. My mom was and her her siblings were

791
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the same, around the same age, one or two year

792
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 2>difference her and my grandparents, and they're her siblings. They

793
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>were driving in Michigan. This was probably, like I said,

794
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.320
<v Speaker 2>they were twelve years old to fourteen years old. This

795
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 2>was probably in the seventies, nineteen seventies. They were in

796
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>a suburban area, you know, just outside of Detroit. And

797
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>my whole family's from Detroit and the surrounding areas. So

798
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 2>they were just outside of Detroit, not in country or anything,

799
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>not in like a rural area, and they were driving.

800
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I think my grandpa had his like sixty seven Chevy

801
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 2>or something I don't know, or it was either that

802
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>or he had like a station wagon, I don't know,

803
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>something like that. They saw they were driving, they saw

804
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this light above them, super bright. They said it let

805
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the whole road up, because at that time he said

806
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 2>it was dark out.

807
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 1>It let the whole road up.

808
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 2>There was no sound, so he knew it wasn't a plane,

809
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and my grandparents were always very open minded, just based

810
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:41.199
<v Speaker 2>on their experiences, so they told me about this. My

811
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 2>parents or my mom didn't even tell me about this,

812
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 2>or my aunt, their uncle or whatever. They didn't tell

813
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>me about this either. My grandparents did. Yeah, it was

814
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.599
<v Speaker 2>this light. It went above their car. I never asked

815
00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 2>if they experienced missing time at that time when they

816
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>told me about this.

817
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

818
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Too much about missing time or I never heard too

819
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 2>much about that, so I didn't ask. But yeah, they

820
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 2>saw this light. It was above their car. It was

821
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't too high up, but it was

822
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.920
<v Speaker 2>high enough. My grandpa actually stopped and got out of

823
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>the car. He pulled over, got out of the car.

824
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Because this was in like a suburb, you know, this

825
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a middle of nowhere type situation. They basically said, yeah,

826
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>it shot off. He got out of the car. He

827
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 2>looked at it, and then it shot off in the

828
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 2>blink of an e bam gone. He saw it move,

829
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't just disappear. It moved, but it was

830
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 2>so fast it just shot off and was faded into

831
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a light. My mom did confirm this. She said she

832
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 2>remembers it I never asked her siblings, my aunt uncle

833
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, if they if they experienced this, But I

834
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 2>always ask my mom because she's open minded too, so

835
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 2>she said, yes, yeah, this happened again. This was the

836
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies, Mature Detroit. So this kind of ties into

837
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 2>my last story. My grandparents, the same grandparents that experienced

838
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 2>the light, the UFO, whatever you want to call it.

839
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 2>They were in the upper Peninsula of Michigan, and this

840
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:34.039
<v Speaker 2>is very rural, thick woods, thick forest, you know. You know,

841
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 2>my grand grandpa had family up there. He grew up

842
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 2>there too, till you was about fifteen, and then came

843
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 2>down to Detroit. It was just him and my grandmother

844
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and they were driving going up I think, to his

845
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>mom's house, so my great grandmother's house. And again the

846
00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere dark, really dark actually, so I guess

847
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 2>my grandma was driving this time and my grandpa was

848
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 2>sleeping and she's driving. All of a sudden she sees

849
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 2>this thing standing in the road. She didn't know what

850
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 2>it was at first. You know, back then, this was

851
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 2>probably in the I want to say, before they had

852
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>my parents, so the six early sixties, like six, a

853
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>few years before they.

854
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Had my mom, and.

855
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a She described it as a dog

856
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 2>man from my eyes. She didn't call out a dog man,

857
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>but she said it was like a werewolf. Blood all

858
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 2>over its mouth, standing on two legs, staring at them, panting,

859
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>breathing heavy. She could see its breath. It was cold out,

860
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 2>but she could see its breath. She started panicking and

861
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 2>woke my grandfather up. He saw it too. I confirmed

862
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 2>this because I think she told me the story. And

863
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.119
<v Speaker 2>then he budged in and then said, yes, I you know,

864
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I woke up saw it, and he said, punch it,

865
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, hit the gas go.

866
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 1>That.

867
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:15.320
<v Speaker 2>She kind of panicked and slowed down, and uh, it

868
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>was on the side of the road a little bit,

869
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 2>so they were able to. They drove around it as

870
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 2>fast as they can, and it just stared stood there

871
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and stared at him. I never I'm going to ask

872
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 2>her when I see her, my grandmother. I never asked

873
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 2>her if it had like what type of hands I had,

874
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.880
<v Speaker 2>or detail, But she said it was standing up and

875
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 2>two legs, staring at them, blood all over its mouth

876
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like a man, but it was a wolf. I heard

877
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>him A lot of experiences up there. They call it

878
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the Michigan dog Man. And this is afterward after they

879
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 2>told me about the story. I learned this when I

880
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 2>was young, before I even heard anyone else talk about.

881
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure so, and that is that story. That's

882
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>my last story, Nick. I had a pretty crazy experience.

883
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Good job, Jay. Wow you have had several strange paranormal experiences.

884
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, very strange, very.

885
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Strange, so many interesting ones. Yeah, these these accounts of

886
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 4>dog Man, you know, they they go back generations. People

887
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 4>have been seeing these these strange, upright beasts for a

888
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 4>long time.

889
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

890
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard a lot of stories since I initially

891
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 2>heard this story from my grandmother, So it's pretty pretty

892
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>surreal to me now that there's a lot out there

893
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that we have no idea about.

894
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

895
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, Yeah.

896
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 4>You have to try and get some more detailed off her.

897
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would like to.

898
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:51.599
<v Speaker 2>She's getting pretty old, but she does have her memory,

899
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.119
<v Speaker 2>so I will ask her and I try to get

900
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>more detail on that situation.

901
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Yeah, that would be great.

902
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.800
<v Speaker 4>Let's start off with the person view, because that is

903
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 4>very unusual, and I just want to try and understand

904
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 4>how rare this actually is. So, if any of our

905
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 4>listeners out there have experienced something that Jay has has

906
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 4>said about his third person view, like he was observing

907
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.159
<v Speaker 4>himself from a distance. Shoot me an email to see

908
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 4>if this is if this is a thing, because I

909
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 4>know in regression, you know when when people have regression,

910
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 4>the Hitler Ferrabis can do it and put you in

911
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.559
<v Speaker 4>a state that you're you're viewing the event as a

912
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 4>third person. I'm just wondering if if this is something

913
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 4>which you can split in your in your head, maybe

914
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 4>it's possible to access or you were literally viewing from

915
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 4>from the eyes of someone else, someone that you know

916
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 4>visually wasn't there to you.

917
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, And yeah, I've thought about this a lot, and

918
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>the feeling was it was scary. I was scary again,

919
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>like I said, because I never had this experience. And

920
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember clearly saying to my friend like, hey, you know,

921
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel this weird way, And I tried to explain

922
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that he was kind of skeptical about stuff like that,

923
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 2>so I just stopped and waited till it stopped. Luckily

924
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 2>for me, it didn't last too long for him it did.

925
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So I would like to hear more about that if

926
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>anyone experienced that.

927
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, I mean yeah, I mean your friend had it

928
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 4>for a couple of weeks, and so we're not we're

929
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 4>not talking about being in a dream state. We're actually

930
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 4>talking about being physically, you know, being awake and experiencing

931
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 4>this because we I think we've all had dreams where

932
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 4>we've kind of viewed ourselves maybe in a dream. This

933
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 4>is why you're awake.

934
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is clearly when I was awake. I went

935
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 2>to the party. I remember the party, you know, because

936
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember the situation, so I remember everything that happened before.

937
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I remember going to my friends in the night there.

938
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was This is not a dream. This

939
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>is real, one hundred percent and confirmed because when I

940
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 2>hung out with the guy that had recently, I keep

941
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 2>in touch with the friend that had the party where

942
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I actually had the previous paranormal experiences. And you know,

943
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I brought it up because I didn't I didn't bring

944
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.599
<v Speaker 2>up the whole thing that happened to me, but I

945
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 2>brought up the party to reassure that this party happened,

946
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you try to weed out any possibilities,

947
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like you said, of a dream or something. No, it's confirmed,

948
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:36.239
<v Speaker 2>this happened to me.

949
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So me and Jay would like to hear more

950
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 4>accounts of this. So if you have experienced or know

951
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 4>someone that has get in contact this is this is

952
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 4>pretty interesting.

953
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Ac see. Yeah, absolutely.

954
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.199
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959
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961
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Now.

962
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 4>The AI, Yeah, that's that's a very strange one. It

963
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 4>makes you wonder whether you know, technology in AI is

964
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:43.000
<v Speaker 4>developing so rapidly that it is becoming sentiently. I've experienced

965
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 4>something a little bit similar to that. I've got like

966
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 4>a like a Bluetooth speaker that when I'm doing stuff

967
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 4>in the house ide, you know, I connect it up

968
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 4>and play music over it. A lot of times I'll

969
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:56.159
<v Speaker 4>forget to turn the Bluetooth speaker off, so it just

970
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of batch you goes dead or whatever. But there's

971
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.519
<v Speaker 4>been plenty of times when I've heard voices over my

972
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.920
<v Speaker 4>bluetooth speaker when I haven't been running. You know, I

973
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Speaker 4>haven't had anything, and I've had no musical there, I've

974
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 4>had no podcasts, and I clearly it owes that. Actually

975
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 4>it was only back in October my blues tooth speaker

976
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 4>spoke and said, my name. It was a female voice.

977
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, I believe it.

978
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this, this only situation with the whole world

979
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 2>is going to develop rapidly. I know, I know it

980
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>is because I work with robots and stuff like that

981
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 2>for my job. But all I know is this happened.

982
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It was the navigation's voice. It wasn't any like human voice,

983
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 2>but it was a navigation voice that was previously giving

984
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.199
<v Speaker 2>us directions. And we were just mind blowing.

985
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean this.

986
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Whenever this voice said, yeah, I loved you know, I

987
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 2>love weddings. I love I wish I could experience this

988
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.920
<v Speaker 2>wedding with you guys or something something insane, and my

989
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>dad just shut it off. He's like what, And I

990
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, I think I was the first person to say,

991
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 2>did you hear that?

992
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 1>You know? And then we all we all reassured it.

993
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it wasn't just saying hello to you, was it?

994
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It was being quite pacific when it said I love

995
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 4>weddings too.

996
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was like, I love weddings too. And then

997
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it said like I wish I could go

998
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 2>to this wedding with you guys, with all of you,

999
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and we just.

1000
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Looked at each other.

1001
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I looked at my brother in law, my sister, parents

1002
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:34.719
<v Speaker 2>were in the front seats, and my dad shut it

1003
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 2>right off.

1004
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god.

1005
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 2>And then I brought it up again recently. I always

1006
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 2>bring it up because I want to make sure you know,

1007
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 2>don't forget about this.

1008
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't forget.

1009
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't blame him for shutting it off.

1010
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 1>That is that's very strange.

1011
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it makes you want er. And also I mean,

1012
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I've got security cameras that I control viral app on

1013
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:02.679
<v Speaker 4>the phone. Sometimes I'll put up on the tablet so

1014
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:05.039
<v Speaker 4>I can view all the all the cameras around the

1015
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.039
<v Speaker 4>property in that and there's been times where I've had

1016
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 4>the tablet on. I'm the only person that has access

1017
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 4>to the movement of these cameras or can do anything

1018
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 4>with them. And there's been times where I've seen the

1019
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 4>cameras moving by themselves. So someone has been literally controlling

1020
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 4>the movement of the camera. So I've then got to

1021
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 4>shut them all down. I've then got to change all

1022
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 4>the paths, so it's all the admin passwords. So you know,

1023
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.199
<v Speaker 4>technology these days, you don't know who is able to

1024
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:34.079
<v Speaker 4>get access.

1025
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, and yeah, very well could have been someone.

1026
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 2>But especially at that time, it's like, okay, how are

1027
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you going to hack into a navigation voice? You know,

1028
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 2>it was just so weird. I mean, but yeah, very

1029
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 2>well could have been someone. And that definitely not rooting

1030
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 2>that out. But to me, after seeing the advancement from

1031
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 2>their time to now, I think it was something to

1032
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 2>do with AI or something like that.

1033
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Go with you on that, because I know when when

1034
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.440
<v Speaker 4>you download some apps, it does ask about permissions with

1035
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 4>your microphone. Now, this can be just random apps that

1036
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.719
<v Speaker 4>probably have nothing to do with recording or voice speaking

1037
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that, but still they ask for these

1038
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.400
<v Speaker 4>these permissions. So I'm wondering, if you know your our

1039
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.519
<v Speaker 4>microphones are pretty much on all the time. Hence why

1040
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:29.760
<v Speaker 4>we see all these ads which have seemed to be

1041
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 4>specifically targeting us, even though we haven't searched for something.

1042
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, we might just have had a conversation about

1043
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 4>product or a movie or whatever, and then you're all

1044
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:41.880
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden you're starting to see these ads. So

1045
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.079
<v Speaker 4>it's quite possible that this AI is developing that way,

1046
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:49.559
<v Speaker 4>and then it's then making conversation with you or making observations.

1047
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's it's quite scary.

1048
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, absolutely, it is scary. And you know, after

1049
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.400
<v Speaker 2>working with robots for the past four years, five years

1050
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of my life, you know, I could see I went

1051
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 2>from working on self programming robots still working with artificial

1052
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 2>intelligence robots for a big, big grocery manufacture, and yeah,

1053
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it's amazing. It's it's advancing fast.

1054
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 4>And we're starting to see robots a lot more in

1055
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 4>places now. I'm not to write industry, you know where

1056
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, we've had robots in the car industry for

1057
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 4>years and stuff, but I've started seeing more and more robots.

1058
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Now you see them at airports, you know, the robots,

1059
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, the robo cleaners that do the hoovering where

1060
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:36.719
<v Speaker 4>they're they're actually getting quite big now see them. And

1061
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I've seen robots which in shops. This is an Asia,

1062
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:42.760
<v Speaker 4>this was where they're in shops where these robots are

1063
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 4>driving around and they're selling a product so they're literally

1064
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:49.280
<v Speaker 4>selling you like mashed potato and whatever the special is,

1065
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 4>and they will engage you in conversation on this via

1066
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.159
<v Speaker 4>this tablet. Yeah, I think as a Japanese restaurant, and

1067
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 4>we were actually served by a robot. So the robot

1068
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 4>would the way you would take your order, and then

1069
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.920
<v Speaker 4>this robot would come around with your food actually carrying

1070
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:07.559
<v Speaker 4>it in you know, as the shells inside, and then

1071
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, you take your food and then it pods off.

1072
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 4>So it's a little bit frightening that how starting to

1073
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:14.920
<v Speaker 4>come into everyday life now.

1074
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. It's very frightening. That happened to me

1075
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:20.440
<v Speaker 2>too recently. I got served by a robot. It's kind

1076
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 2>of funny.

1077
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:22.599
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of funny the way in the shopping center.

1078
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 4>I was actually following it around and I was having

1079
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.000
<v Speaker 4>conversation with it, and I was I was standing in

1080
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 4>front of it to see if it would go around

1081
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.280
<v Speaker 4>me and stuff. It did all that very strange.

1082
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, isn't it funny? Yeah?

1083
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 2>And those will be you know, advancing so fast, you know,

1084
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 2>especially with Tesla and all those big companies developing these

1085
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:46.119
<v Speaker 2>humanoid robots. It's coming, man, It's coming to your how.

1086
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 4>Soon it is coming in and all these science fiction

1087
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 4>films that we used to watch in the seventies, eighties,

1088
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.800
<v Speaker 4>and nineties, it seems like this is how it might

1089
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:55.679
<v Speaker 4>even turn out.

1090
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, selling it.

1091
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Actually might eventually take over and to would take over.

1092
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely scary too, right. You got to look

1093
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 1>at it on both sides.

1094
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:10.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, you've had these paranormal events for your life.

1095
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:12.800
<v Speaker 4>The operation you saw was in period clothing.

1096
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that was like I said. It was like,

1097
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, like those old suits from like the twenties,

1098
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like the wool almost like that brown, old color.

1099
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That brown.

1100
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 2>That's the color. I remember the color pretty much. It

1101
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:32.920
<v Speaker 2>was like a dark i'd say black brown. But just

1102
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.039
<v Speaker 2>this guy, I mean it put it this way. It

1103
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't look like a human, but it did. He was

1104
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:42.800
<v Speaker 2>like seven five, it's just this crazy height and he

1105
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 2>was holding a suitcase on his side, just staring.

1106
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:48.119
<v Speaker 1>And uh.

1107
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:52.400
<v Speaker 2>When I like when my friend saw me, trembled. When

1108
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw him, this fear came over me. That's the

1109
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 2>weird part. The fear that.

1110
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Made me just run.

1111
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 2>It just made me run, like I didn't want to stop.

1112
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. He was, like I said, he was

1113
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:05.960
<v Speaker 2>standing in that he might have been taller done seven

1114
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:09.800
<v Speaker 2>seven five, because he was standing right by that little

1115
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:13.559
<v Speaker 2>dip in the ground, that three foot decline, that not whole,

1116
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.039
<v Speaker 2>but like pit. I guess you could say I went

1117
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 2>back there. I looked a few times over the years

1118
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and nothing. I mean, I didn't see anything, didn't hear anything.

1119
01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I tried to see if something was in that hole.

1120
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I didn't dig it up, but I kind of looked

1121
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 2>to see if I noticed anything sticking out of that hole,

1122
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like possibly someone's belongings from a long time ago or something,

1123
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:40.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, thinking it's paranormal, and nothing. Couldn't find anything.

1124
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I do know that around that area there's a.

1125
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Lot of Native It was a lot of Native land

1126
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 2>before Native American land.

1127
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:50.599
<v Speaker 1>So like I have a.

1128
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Friend that lived on a Native American burial area and

1129
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.880
<v Speaker 2>he's found the arrows. I think he's found like ten

1130
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:03.039
<v Speaker 2>arrowheads and he had like a professional look at him

1131
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 2>and confirmed, yeah, they were from this tribe in this

1132
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:07.679
<v Speaker 2>area at that time.

1133
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1134
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 2>So, but this guy did not look neat This guy

1135
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 2>did not look Native or even like a regular human.

1136
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 4>So I don't understand, And did he react to you

1137
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:17.679
<v Speaker 4>at all.

1138
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 2>He did not react, and I don't know if that

1139
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>made it more scary, but he just stood and he

1140
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.280
<v Speaker 2>stared straight, and he just stood there like his back

1141
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:33.000
<v Speaker 2>was straight, suitcase perfectly in his hand. I think it

1142
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 2>was in his right hand, and we were facing his

1143
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:38.039
<v Speaker 2>right side, you know, but he was to the side

1144
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:40.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but he was staring across. He did

1145
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 2>not budge, he did not move. It's almost like he

1146
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.360
<v Speaker 2>was standing there solid. But it definitely was not anything

1147
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I've seen in those woods. The fear that came over you,

1148
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, the fear, that's what That's what really

1149
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:58.199
<v Speaker 2>set me off was it was the scariest I've ever

1150
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.039
<v Speaker 2>been in my life. I mean, and just picture fear

1151
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 2>times a thousand. You know, you're getting scared times a thousand,

1152
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:07.039
<v Speaker 2>and you just want to run. You just you don't stop.

1153
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I ran a mile across the wood, no problem, jump

1154
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the cree.

1155
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.480
<v Speaker 4>When that adrenaline kicks in, yeah you're you're gone. I

1156
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 4>think there's a lot of people out there which have

1157
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.000
<v Speaker 4>experienced that fear when it comes to the paranormal, and yeah,

1158
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.479
<v Speaker 4>it's you never know how your body's going to react

1159
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:23.399
<v Speaker 4>with You're going to just stay there or you're just

1160
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.760
<v Speaker 4>gonna leg it. It's crazy. It makes you wonder that

1161
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, the guy was carrying a suitcase, so maybe

1162
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 4>he was going somewhere, whether he's passing through that location,

1163
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 4>And it makes you wonder sometimes when you when you

1164
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:38.199
<v Speaker 4>hear of apparitions in a particular area, they're usually stuck

1165
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:40.600
<v Speaker 4>there for a reason. And maybe you know, he lost

1166
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 4>his life somehow, yeah, in that area, and these maybe

1167
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:46.239
<v Speaker 4>his bones are still there and he can't and he can't.

1168
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Leave, definitely, Yeah, And that's why I noticed, like when

1169
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I went back too, Like I said, he was standing

1170
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 2>by that little dip in the ground, like that little pit.

1171
01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:57.800
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't dig in, and I should have dogged

1172
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 2>and checked it out when I went there last. But

1173
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be that guy with the shovel

1174
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.119
<v Speaker 2>in the woods just as an adult walking.

1175
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll get.

1176
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 4>There and suspicion with that, I mean, if you know

1177
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.199
<v Speaker 4>he's he was wearing period clothing, so it's it's not

1178
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.359
<v Speaker 4>he's obviously several decades ago. So chances are that if

1179
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.479
<v Speaker 4>there is any remains, it would be so overgrown. Maybe

1180
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:21.359
<v Speaker 4>there'd be roots that would have grown through, and you know,

1181
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:23.520
<v Speaker 4>so it probably would be difficult to find in any case.

1182
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:25.960
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean it's his interesting. He had a suitcase,

1183
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 4>so what you know, what would that mean? He was

1184
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.920
<v Speaker 4>going somewhere and something happened to him and he was

1185
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 4>robbed and then buried, or he was escaping from something,

1186
01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:36.479
<v Speaker 4>so you never he never knows. That's a mysterious one.

1187
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. The situation, the way he was dressed was

1188
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely dated back, and I don't know that might have

1189
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:44.279
<v Speaker 2>put some fear on it too.

1190
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 4>Idea, I don't blame you for running, but did you

1191
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 4>go back on your own?

1192
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go back on my own. I was kind

1193
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.359
<v Speaker 2>of scared to Like, even to this day, I don't

1194
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 2>think I would go back on my own because I

1195
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 2>just know that fear when it happened, it's just so strong,

1196
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.640
<v Speaker 2>like the fear I did go back with. Actually, we

1197
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 2>went back as a group of friends. This is years later,

1198
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.399
<v Speaker 2>and we had a bomb fire back there or something.

1199
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, all the guys that used to hang out,

1200
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:15.119
<v Speaker 2>like all my neighbors that we would I would play

1201
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.159
<v Speaker 2>with as a kid back there, and we just had

1202
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a fires next to the creek or something. One night,

1203
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 2>had a few beers, but No, I did not go

1204
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.960
<v Speaker 2>back there on my own. I was scared. I did

1205
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.560
<v Speaker 2>look there though, in that same spot because it was

1206
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.039
<v Speaker 2>right next to the fire that we built ten feet

1207
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:33.960
<v Speaker 2>fifteen feet away maybe something like that, so it's not

1208
01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 2>too far. And my parents did move away from there,

1209
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So if I did go there, I would have to

1210
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:43.119
<v Speaker 2>just kind of maybe ride my bike around there or something.

1211
01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.720
<v Speaker 4>It might be worth just saying if historically there was

1212
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 4>any you know, any other reports in the area or

1213
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:52.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe a missing person, but chances are they wouldn't be

1214
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:53.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, they wouldn't be a record of that.

1215
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, based on the period of his clothes, like you said,

1216
01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:58.199
<v Speaker 2>the time period.

1217
01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I should look that up though. I will looked that

1218
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:01.239
<v Speaker 1>up definitely.

1219
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it might be might be worth it, and you

1220
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.119
<v Speaker 4>never know, you might there might solve a mystery.

1221
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be cool. That would be awesome.

1222
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Wow, this strange noise that you heard your friend's house.

1223
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.920
<v Speaker 4>So you heard this light bang, this live noise. Your

1224
01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 4>friend heard it, and your sister.

1225
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, my neighbor heard it, the kid that I

1226
01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 2>would hang out with, and my sister, my younger sister,

1227
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.960
<v Speaker 2>his dad again, his dad was inside and it was

1228
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 2>so loud. Like basically like picture lightning hitting a transformer

1229
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and blowing up, Like that's how loud this thing.

1230
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But it did not echo.

1231
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.000
<v Speaker 2>That was so weird, Like there was no echo, but

1232
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:44.119
<v Speaker 2>we all heard it and we were like shocked.

1233
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1234
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.600
<v Speaker 2>It kind of made us shake a little, like a

1235
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:50.239
<v Speaker 2>gunshot going off next to you, and we were kind

1236
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.279
<v Speaker 2>of scared, of like not scared, but you know, like

1237
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 2>wondering they'd have gun just go off or something by itself,

1238
01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:59.159
<v Speaker 2>or because his dad was in there alone, it's dead.

1239
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.840
<v Speaker 2>He's definitely watching TV. Because we asked, you know, we

1240
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 2>got them to check everything out, and he said, yeah,

1241
01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a gun.

1242
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 1>It was very weird.

1243
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.920
<v Speaker 2>There was no nothing in the garage either, Like it

1244
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 2>was just I think he had like a shoe rack

1245
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:19.479
<v Speaker 2>and there, you know, like maybe a few like a lawnmower.

1246
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.880
<v Speaker 2>A few tools got pushed lawmower. I mean, nothing that

1247
01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:25.640
<v Speaker 2>blew up, you know, nothing blew up.

1248
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.199
<v Speaker 1>So it was very weird, very weird.

1249
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:30.800
<v Speaker 4>I know, children, you know, they reach a certain age,

1250
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.159
<v Speaker 4>but they can hear high pitched tones, can't they. As

1251
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:35.640
<v Speaker 4>soon as you reach a certain age, you stop be

1252
01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.600
<v Speaker 4>able to hear this tone. I know some some shopping centers.

1253
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:43.159
<v Speaker 4>They buy these things called mosquitos, and they basically send

1254
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 4>out this pitch so when he loitering teenagers and kids,

1255
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:50.960
<v Speaker 4>it will like annoy them and then move on. Because

1256
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:53.319
<v Speaker 4>it's just strange that the children heard it but the

1257
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 4>adults didn't.

1258
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, that is strange. And yeah, it was definitely not

1259
01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a high pitched tone. It was a bang. I mean,

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01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like I said, take take an old shot gun and

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01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.439
<v Speaker 2>just shoot it next to your ear, you know, not directly,

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01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:11.039
<v Speaker 2>but you know what I mean, like right next.

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<v Speaker 1>To your body.

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01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And that's how loud it was. Inside of a small room,

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01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what it sounded like.

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01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that is live.

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01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was so weird. I never forgot it. I

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01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 2>asked my sister about it. She remembered it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt.

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01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Going on to Lucy dreaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Lucid dreaming. It's very powerful. I mean as far

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01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:36.239
<v Speaker 2>as it's pretty easy to do. Like I found really quick.

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01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I found the way I could do it is every

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01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like four times a day, look at your hands and

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01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 2>ask yourself, am I dreaming? And look around you and

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01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 2>look at your body like your hands. Do that four

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01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:51.359
<v Speaker 2>times a day, and then at that time I also

1278
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 2>heard of you eat peanut butter that helps invoke the dream.

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01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:57.920
<v Speaker 2>So I did that. Those two things very interesting.

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01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Speaker 4>That is interesting. I mean I left peanut but any case.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a friend and a dream, one of my

1282
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 2>good friends and one of my lucid dreams. I said, hey,

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01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 2>so and so, you know you're my dream, right And

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01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I looked at him, you know, and he just kind

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01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:14.840
<v Speaker 2>of stared, and I think he kind of blew me off.

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Didn't say much about it. And then, but if I

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01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:22.199
<v Speaker 2>asked him other questions because I've experimented, I've experimented when

1288
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.479
<v Speaker 2>I was doing it, he didn't. He seemed to respond

1289
01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to other questions, but not intelligently, you know, like very

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01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 2>simple like oh okay or stuff like that, like little words.

1291
01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:35.840
<v Speaker 2>But in my lucid dreaming experience, you can't you tell

1292
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:40.279
<v Speaker 2>people like I could definitely say hey, come here, and

1293
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 2>people will walk towards you, the characters. So it's creepy.

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01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:45.399
<v Speaker 1>It is weird.

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01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I stopped doing it because I just

1296
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:51.000
<v Speaker 2>don't really have an interest in it anymore. But it's

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01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:52.560
<v Speaker 2>very cool to try at least.

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01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, this interaction that you had, you know, whether

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01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 4>it was a lucy dream or an outbody experience. You know,

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01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 4>you approached this stato figure, you had a reaction. Do

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01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.000
<v Speaker 4>you remember last night you grabbed.

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01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:06.760
<v Speaker 2>This figure, well you jumped towards Yeah, so this and

1303
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 2>my I mean, this is just my experience. This was

1304
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.079
<v Speaker 2>an out of body experience because I looked at my

1305
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:16.159
<v Speaker 2>body and it was dark in my room, and I looked,

1306
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I turned, I got up if I was getting up

1307
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to sit in my bed from laying down. I got

1308
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.319
<v Speaker 2>up and looked turned around. I'm like, oh my god,

1309
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 2>this is happening, you know, because I heard about it.

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01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I never really like got into it too much. But

1311
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I was in the lucid dreaming too. So but this

1312
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 2>was not a dream. I was in my room. It

1313
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:38.680
<v Speaker 2>was dark, you know, like but I was like, then

1314
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 2>I saw it. I saw the figure, and something came

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01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 2>to my head and said, like never run from these entities.

1316
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Not that exact wording, but it's just like it was

1317
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:54.960
<v Speaker 2>an awareness like don't run, don't be scared, and I

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01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:56.039
<v Speaker 2>just shot at it.

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01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 1>That was my reaction.

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01:15:57.560 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, in that realm, it's different, You're not

1321
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 2>in not walking really, I mean you can, I think

1322
01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:04.760
<v Speaker 2>from what I've looked into. But and then right when

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01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I hit it, because it was black. It's blacker than black,

1324
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and it had like a devil horns almost on the

1325
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.399
<v Speaker 2>top of its head, which is very scary. When you

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01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.319
<v Speaker 2>see something blacker than night, clearly you feel like you.

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01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Know what am I seeing.

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01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I shot at it, hit it, and I remember my

1329
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 2>body slowly going back down, or my spirit body slowly

1330
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 2>going back down. I led into my bad because I

1331
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 2>was I was jolted. I was It's like being electrocuted,

1332
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and then slowly, as I was being electrocuted, it was

1333
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 2>like this deep, deep like if you get shocked, right,

1334
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:41.439
<v Speaker 2>you get shocked by something.

1335
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 1>You did.

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01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.199
<v Speaker 2>You remember those pens that would shock you, the fake

1337
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:47.439
<v Speaker 2>trick pens.

1338
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 4>From the joke shop.

1339
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, joke shop.

1340
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like that, but your whole body. That's exactly

1341
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:56.680
<v Speaker 2>what I felt as I hit it. It happened went

1342
01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.239
<v Speaker 2>right back into my body slowly. But when I went

1343
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.600
<v Speaker 2>into my body, I right up and I got up,

1344
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know, kind of worried, like

1345
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:06.880
<v Speaker 2>panicking a little. I got up, turned my light on,

1346
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I think, or something like that. The rest I.

1347
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Kind of forgot what I did after that, but I

1348
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:12.760
<v Speaker 1>never forgot that.

1349
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, That's that's scary, isn't it. Knowing that these figures,

1350
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:21.039
<v Speaker 4>these things in it around us, so to speak. You know,

1351
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:24.479
<v Speaker 4>it's very strange, especially as it has wholes.

1352
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean, yeah, these these shadow beings or whatever

1353
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:27.920
<v Speaker 2>they are.

1354
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what they are.

1355
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I've tried to look into it and see if I

1356
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:35.119
<v Speaker 2>can understand it more, but everyone just says, you know,

1357
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.600
<v Speaker 2>they're lower level entities or whatever they want to say,

1358
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 2>but it's just.

1359
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:42.079
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. We really, when it comes down to it,

1360
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't know.

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01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 2>And recently I've been thinking about that experience and I

1362
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 2>really kind of am concerned about it because I hit

1363
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>that being with my spirit body or whatever you want

1364
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to call it, and I touched it, you know. So

1365
01:17:57.720 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of been freaking me out thinking about it late,

1366
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:04.359
<v Speaker 2>just from touching it and having their shark and not

1367
01:18:04.560 --> 01:18:08.199
<v Speaker 2>realizing that I came in contact with that and it's

1368
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:10.920
<v Speaker 2>not you know, it's fine. My life's good and haven't

1369
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 2>had any effects on the three D. But you know,

1370
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that's just what I think about.

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01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:20.279
<v Speaker 4>You're not worthy bears a grudge or anything, are you right?

1372
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Man? Jay?

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01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Hit me? Jay, I really appreciate you coming on sharing

1374
01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:27.039
<v Speaker 4>that for our listeners.

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01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks, Main, I appreciate you and good luck with everything,

1376
01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and Jay, I'll talk to you soon, all right, man,

1377
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 2>take care brother.

1378
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.880
<v Speaker 4>That is all for this episode. Keep updated and connected

1379
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:41.079
<v Speaker 4>with the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if

1380
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 4>you have an encounter that you'd like to share on

1381
01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 4>the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at

1382
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.159
<v Speaker 4>gmail dot com, or you can reach out to me

1383
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:54.239
<v Speaker 4>via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast

1384
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.239
<v Speaker 4>dot com. A big fanga to Jay for sharing tonight

1385
01:18:57.439 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 4>and thank you all for listening.

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01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:00.119
<v Speaker 1>I will be.

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01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching

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01:19:04.039 --> 01:20:02.439
<v Speaker 4>us guys. Goodbye the
