WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:07.919 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:15.679 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book two, Carl's Doomsday Scenario chapters 3 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:25.559 fifteen through seventeen. In these chapters, we have got a 4 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:30.679 whole lot of new factors involved in things and what 5 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:37.439 is going on with Lucia and this I don't know 6 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.640 what else to call it, but just like reputation that 7 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:45.799 she is creating for herself, this woman sounds both fascinating 8 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:50.759 and terrifying. I really really want to get to know 9 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.320 her and also want us to never meet her ever. 10 00:00:55.439 --> 00:01:20.280 Very torn. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. 11 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.400 I am Natasha. Thank you very much to Michael for 12 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:28.599 commissioning this episode. So we start off with our friends 13 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:32.599 walking into the Desperado Club, which is described as like 14 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:39.439 an Art Deco sort of construction type architecture. That's the 15 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:46.000 word I wanted, and Mordecai explains that over City has 16 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:54.239 two clubs, Desperado and Vanquisher, and usually if you are 17 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.159 given access to one of them, you aren't allowed in 18 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.599 the other one. I was sort of wondering why this was, 19 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.319 and it's not really explained except for the fact that 20 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.599 they are very different energies, so I'm assuming that like, 21 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:14.199 once you have picked the vibe that you want, they 22 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.879 basically determine, like, oh, you're not one of our people. 23 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:22.199 So he describes it as Desperado being easier to get into, 24 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.439 while Vanquisher is more like a country club where old 25 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:29.439 clerics sit on leather chairs and smoke pipes and occasionally 26 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:34.319 tell racist jokes. This place is like your Las Vegas 27 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.800 strip mixed in with Marty Grass and the discos of 28 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.800 the nineteen seventies, which frankly sounds much more my speed. 29 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.879 And Mordecai, when Doughnut says this sounds much better, says, oh, 30 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:53.120 believe me, it is, which feels like it carries some 31 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.080 weight of experience. And I would love to I just 32 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:59.159 wish what do you think it would be like, you, guys, 33 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:05.280 if we were to do a sort of retrospective with 34 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.439 Mordecai at some point where we got to hear about 35 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.360 the things that he has been through in his life, 36 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:16.000 because ye boy has lived, he has been through it, 37 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:19.479 you know what I'm saying, And I just want to 38 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:25.840 know everything that he has been through. I'm just really like, 39 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.400 I have to imagine he has got some crazy stories 40 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:35.879 and has seen stuff that would make a fantastic memoir. 41 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.840 So just here to say that. I'm here to say 42 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.599 somebody should exploit that, somebody should get in there. I'm sorry, 43 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.960 there's a whole chat going on about meal planning. Guys, guys, 44 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.639 I need you to get on topic here. Okay, they're 45 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.879 distracting me because I am very much in the midst 46 00:03:57.879 --> 00:03:59.919 of trying to find a good meal planning app and 47 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.120 this is of great interest to me right now. This 48 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.039 is genuinely I'm genuinely like, oh, what do they have? 49 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.080 They a meal digest email? Oh, it's that. So anyway, 50 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.479 if you all wouldn't mind putting that over in the 51 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.399 discord so that I can go over there and engage 52 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.600 in the conversation when I am done recording, I would 53 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:24.040 appreciate it. Rob says, save that shit for the Dungeon 54 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:28.680 Anarchists' cookbook. Oh man, yeah, that would be a good time. Man. 55 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:34.279 He would have some crazy shit. So I really love that. 56 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.800 The priority for Donut here is trying a cocktail for 57 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.240 the first time, and she says that she wants to 58 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.040 try one of Miss Beatrice's favorite drinks, which it makes 59 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.240 sense that you would try the drinks of the only 60 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.439 other person that you know that had alcohol, like very 61 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.079 much like it's she said, contact with other people as 62 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.199 we see, like Bee's parents and stuff. But yeah, B 63 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:04.639 was her person. And I just really wonder sometimes, guys, 64 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.399 if B is going to turn out to be alive 65 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:13.720 after all. I'm very very curious because I can't decide 66 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:20.000 what this writer wants in that respect. You know, is 67 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.560 it more effective for us to just know about be 68 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.839 in these like little flashbacks. Do we want there to 69 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.439 be anything more with her? I feel like later on 70 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.199 in this particular couple of episodes, there's a point where 71 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.399 they get their fan boxes and there's a photo of 72 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:46.040 B and Carl realizes that, like, this isn't hurting him 73 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.199 the way that he was expecting it to or the 74 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:52.480 way that clearly the audience was expecting it to. And 75 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.399 I can't help but wonder if like that's it, if 76 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.319 we were just meant to have this one moment and 77 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.360 there's no need for me to be still alive because 78 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:07.439 we've done this now he has finished the exercise, so 79 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:12.160 to speak, by getting over her and seeing past that pain, 80 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.439 and maybe we don't need to run into her. But 81 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.680 not everything. This is something that I have been struggling 82 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:23.920 a little bit with lately myself. So I'm not at 83 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.079 all trying to like throw Miles under the bus here, 84 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.279 but Miles and I. Miles is the co host on 85 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.839 My Patron's Only show covering true Blood. I'm the spoiled one, 86 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:37.720 and he has never seen true Blood before. But we 87 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:41.279 did cover the Sookie Stackhouse books first, which true Blood 88 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:46.040 is based on. And Miles and I are both trying 89 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.839 to write books, and we are collaborating a lot on 90 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:54.000 our ideas and running things by one another. And something 91 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.399 that has been very much on both of our minds 92 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.399 is every time we come up with an idea, we 93 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.639 have to ask ourselves, like, how does this really serve 94 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.079 the story? Because sometimes you can get very caught up 95 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.879 in things that are just fun and they don't really 96 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.000 turn out to be necessary or they kind of derail 97 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:19.480 things a little bit. And yet there's also times where 98 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.920 I can't help but feel like both he and I 99 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.240 can get a little bit too focused on like the 100 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.319 themes of a thing, you know, and we're both kind 101 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.279 of wrapped up in like, Okay, what is the greater 102 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:39.279 meaning here? When I believe that occasionally it's not greater meaning, 103 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.959 it's just that this was too good an idea to 104 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:47.759 pass up. So there are this is a question in 105 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.120 this book, is like how much are we going to 106 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:58.920 adhere to theming and Carl needing to learn certain lessons 107 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.399 or level up in certain ways like not in the game, 108 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.519 but obviously sort of internal personality level ups. And how 109 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:10.040 much are we just gonna do some things because they'd 110 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:15.759 be very, very interesting, And how interesting really would it 111 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:19.920 be to meet Bee. I'm not sure if I actually 112 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:23.160 brought it up last episode, but there is a point 113 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:30.079 where he's describing how Bee would sit and play Candy 114 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.240 Crush with the sound at full volume. We've heard a 115 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:40.720 lot about b and the various terrible things that she 116 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:45.919 has both said and done, and a lot of things 117 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:51.519 about her tastes and habits that are really unappealing. Do 118 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.440 not paint her in a great light. You could kind 119 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.039 of wonder what it was Carl saw in her to 120 00:08:57.120 --> 00:09:03.799 begin with. But when I tell you, nothing made me 121 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:08.440 so glad that he dumped her as her playing Candy 122 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:13.440 Crush with the volume turned all the way up. I 123 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:17.240 wish I was joking, but I had more of a 124 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.879 visceral reaction to hearing that she did that than I 125 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.120 did to hearing her she was sitting on her ex 126 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.799 boyfriend's lap on a vacation that she didn't tell Carl 127 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.480 this guy was going to be on. I feel like 128 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:38.159 there are certain things even a fucking three year old 129 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.480 should know better than to do. And a three year 130 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:47.159 old maybe isn't gonna understand why sitting on your ex 131 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.639 boyfriend's lap on this cruise ship is such a shitty idea. 132 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.679 But a three year old would know this is loud, 133 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.399 and mom tells me to turn the volume down or 134 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.440 use my headphones with it, or I get in trouble. 135 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.240 And if B can't even grasp the kind of thing 136 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:08.120 that I would have grasped at three years old, I 137 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:14.000 simply cannot be asked. That's a wrap for me, you guys. 138 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:19.360 I know it's irrational. I do not pretend, nor have 139 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:24.799 I ever pretended to be rational. I want that on 140 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:30.559 the record, you guys know this about me. My God, 141 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:39.799 the way I cringed and curled up, especially because even 142 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:45.080 when I am playing that game, I get irritated at 143 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.480 the sounds. I always on games like this, turn the 144 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.879 volume all the way down because I find it irritating, 145 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:57.840 and that is like I am the one engaged knowing 146 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.320 what the sound effects even pertain to. I can't imagine. 147 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.639 I have heard tell stories around the campfire about people 148 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:14.720 on trains and buses, public transit playing games with the 149 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:20.200 volume all the way out, and I have heard a 150 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:25.120 couple of different stories that I really liked, like most 151 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:30.519 people just seethe, and I admit I am most people. 152 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:36.200 I have never actually said anything to anybody playing something 153 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.759 out loud, I don't think, even though I have found 154 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:46.600 it horrifically irritating and wanted to actually commit homicide. But 155 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.720 there was one woman who told a story about asking 156 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:53.320 a guy if he had headphones, which I just want 157 00:11:53.399 --> 00:12:00.879 to applaud her even asking the question, and somebody when 158 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.720 she said I asked him if he had headphones, and 159 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:08.759 somebody replied, so what did he say? She says, you're 160 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.639 not gonna believe what he said. He said, yeah, sure, 161 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.159 and pulled his headphones out and handed them to me, 162 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:19.919 like I was asking him, do you have headphones for 163 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.399 myself to borrow a stranger to borrow them off of him, 164 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:29.000 Like he just wasn't getting the fucking hint, and the 165 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.200 other one was a woman who was speaking. It was 166 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:38.399 like a little kid with an iPad, and she said 167 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.639 something like to the little kid, like, sweetie, can you 168 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.639 lower the volume a little bit? And the mom took 169 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.320 the iPad away from the kid because she was so embarrassed, 170 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.240 and then the kid began crying and like cried the 171 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:53.960 rest of the trip, which was much worse, and the 172 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.799 lady was like, that was not the goal I was 173 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.440 aiming for. I just wanted the volume lowered. I didn't 174 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.279 want the kid to have it taken or for them 175 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.919 to start crying. So the lesson I have learned from 176 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.480 hearing these couple of moments of confrontation is that it 177 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:11.480 doesn't work usually and there's no point, which is probably 178 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.399 not the takeaway I should have, but there it is. 179 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.879 Rob says love can be complicated, feelings can be complicated, 180 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.399 but blasting sweet at max volume really isn't. That's kind 181 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:25.919 of it for me. It's like, there are some things 182 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.559 that are so basic, you know, like I'm not trying 183 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.840 to say that her going on a vacation with her 184 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.720 ex and not telling Carl that there's really any excuse 185 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.000 or anything she could say that would make that okay, 186 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:44.279 But I could see getting through that with somebody. I 187 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:47.720 could see it. I just don't see how you get 188 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.720 through with somebody who would be willing to do that. 189 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.240 The level of complete disregard for the people around you 190 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.840 is emblematic of the type of person B is. It's 191 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:02.159 perfect as an analogy for her. From everything we have heard, 192 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:06.559 she just doesn't seem like somebody who takes others into consideration, 193 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:12.440 and it's always about what she feels like, what she 194 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.440 wants in the moment, and everybody better just roll with that. 195 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.519 So anyway, I'm so sorry, guys, I just completely you 196 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:25.399 know how I am so Carl says cats don't drink cocktails, 197 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.360 and she says cats don't shoot lasers from their eyes either, 198 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.360 But here we are, Carl, mama needs a night off. 199 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.320 I don't know why, but mamma needs a night off. 200 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.840 Really got me cackling a little bit. And also, cats 201 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.720 don't shoot lasers from their eyes either. It felt like 202 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:46.399 the author preemptively shutting everybody up who was about to 203 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.559 make a comment about her having a cocktail. Like I 204 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.159 don't know that that's what it was really that he 205 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.360 was doing, but I could see just wanting to head 206 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.840 folks off who were gonna have a fucking comment. I 207 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:06.279 really could see that. So anyway, they go inside, and 208 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.440 the whole vibe in here once they actually get in, it's, 209 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:17.200 like we find out later a lot of the activity 210 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:23.480 is actually NPCs and like bots basically because there's a 211 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:29.919 difference between those types, and bots evidently are really like 212 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.919 not autonomous in any sense. They don't do anything that 213 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.440 is story related. They're just there to sort of fill 214 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:42.159 space and make a place feel lived in, and like 215 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:46.639 we've got other character characters with rich inner lives and 216 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:53.240 potential stories happening on the sides, you know. And so 217 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.039 when they go in and it feels super super busy, 218 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.440 Carl is just like, how do they think this is dead? 219 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:01.919 But that's why. It's because most of this is an 220 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:07.440 actual real activity. They have a whole like thing about 221 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.240 whether or not they can bring Mango in, and eventually 222 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.919 they put Mango in that poke ball thing. And when 223 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:21.799 they go inside and they are greeted by what is 224 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:27.159 her name, I'm trying to find her, she says, Clara Belle. 225 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:31.399 Here she is, she says, do not let him out. 226 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.519 I'm glad you have a carrier. The pet room is 227 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.200 currently out of order. We don't want another incident like 228 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:41.279 last night. And later on Carl asks what happened and 229 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.240 we get quite a story, which I will get to 230 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:51.080 in a moment. So Mordecai explains about how like everybody 231 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.519 who goes into one of these members only areas winds 232 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.759 up in the same place, no matter where they are 233 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.120 on the floors they are, they all wind up going 234 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.519 to the same place. But when you leave, you leave 235 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:06.519 where you came in, and you aren't able to use 236 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:14.160 this to like travel places. And let's see, Oh right, 237 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:19.599 Doughnut orders a dirty Shirley, which is a Shirley Temple 238 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.480 with vodka in it. I didn't even know that this 239 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.839 was a thing, and I'm wondering if there's any additional ingredients, 240 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.200 because I'll be honest, guys, I loved me as Shirley 241 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.000 temple back in the day, and I have never had 242 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.039 a dirty Shirley. So let's see what else you've got 243 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.960 in here. Vodka, grenadine, lemon lime, soda like sprite or 244 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.720 seven up or ginger ale Marichino cherry for garnish. I 245 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:46.480 think I would probably do sprite because ginger Ale just 246 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:48.759 doesn't feel like it would be sweet and sour enough, 247 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:54.359 and that's so so simple. I really want to try this. 248 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:56.480 I bet it would make me throw up. Though some 249 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.119 alcoholic drinks that are too sweet they can really fuck 250 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:06.160 me up. Anyway, Carl gets a bottle of bourbon for 251 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:12.039 fifty gold and later on and he asks if they 252 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:14.559 have cigarettes because he smells something that's sort of like 253 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.599 tobacco and I love that. When she says no, but 254 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.519 we have this other thing, he turns it down because 255 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.599 he says to himself, the last thing I need is 256 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.759 a new addiction, which is a very very good way 257 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:26.759 of looking at it. Carl, I am proud of you, 258 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:31.079 Glad you made this choice. He does get given some 259 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.400 blit sticks later that are put in his inventory, but 260 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:39.000 he does not smoke or snort. I think there's a 261 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:42.599 couple different options of what you can do with these things. 262 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.559 So he looks up at the signs. One red casino, 263 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.160 one read the Hunting Grounds, and the third was guild 264 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:58.200 o Rama. Of the lit signs, they were Bitches, Penis Parade, Jobs, 265 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:03.599 the Silk Road, and restrooms. Bitches is the female strip 266 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:05.960 club in brothel Penis Parade is the same thing, but 267 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.960 for those who prefer dudes. Don't go in either of 268 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:14.000 those places, especially not on this floor. You'll get shanked. Plus, 269 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.559 viewers tend to ridicule the crawlers who go in there. 270 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.720 Jobs is a place to get quests. They tend to 271 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:24.799 be NPC assassinations and theme theft themed gigs. Silk Road 272 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.119 is a marketplace. We'll go in there in a bit. 273 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:32.440 Gildo Rama holds several rogue themed guild rooms, including an 274 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.599 explosives guild. There are guilds available on the third floor, 275 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.640 but the more specialized ones don't become available until later, 276 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:45.000 so that section isn't open yet. And he says, are 277 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.160 those stairs really to the hunting grounds? Yes, but the 278 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.000 club will be harder to find on the fourth and 279 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:52.559 fifth floors. When you go in, you'll find yourself back 280 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.119 here in this room, just like my guildhall. Those stairs 281 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.359 to the hunting grounds open up once you hit the 282 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:59.799 sixth floor. You can only come back up to this 283 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.680 floor once you get to the sixth floor. That hunting 284 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.960 Grounds level is much bigger than this one. Something else 285 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.599 interesting happens once the crawlers hit that floor. I'll explain 286 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:12.680 that later. I thought it was interesting that they can 287 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:16.319 come back to this floor at some point. I'm wondering 288 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.279 what reason there would be to do that, just you know, 289 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:27.440 curious about it. And he notices that there are some 290 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.599 humans that are talking with elites, and he feels this 291 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.480 very strong urge to get up and go and warn them. 292 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.279 But of course you can't save them all, as Mordecai 293 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:43.039 has pointed out. And I love that. Like when their 294 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:47.079 drinks arrive, Donut doesn't seem to like hers, but she 295 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:51.119 keeps drinking it, which is extremely extremely relatable to me. 296 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.720 I just keep relating to Donut, you guys, I really do. 297 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.680 And I don't know what all to think of that, 298 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.519 but uh, you know, it is what it is. I'm 299 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:08.039 just going to cop to it. So this is when 300 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:10.720 Quint comes over to their table. He is the pharmacist 301 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:16.319 aka drug dealer, and he is half gin, half garbage 302 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:23.640 scowl and this is an apossum. I adore the concept 303 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:28.079 of a drug dealer who is an apossum. It just 304 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:34.720 it just suits, It just just works. I can't explain 305 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:38.200 it any better than that. You know, you could do 306 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:42.440 something like a rat, you could do something like but 307 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.799 it's it just feels so on the nose and an apossum. 308 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:52.759 It feels less obvious but still immediately understandable, you know 309 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:59.480 what I'm saying. Quint greets Mordecai, and it's like I 310 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:01.799 thought you were free, like a few seasons back, and 311 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.079 was just bummed that you didn't say goodbye to me. 312 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.559 And Mordecai does not explain why it is he's still here, 313 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:13.720 and he just keeps sort of avoiding this topic in 314 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:17.759 a way that's drawing my attention quite a lot. I've 315 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:26.359 got myself all like involved mentally wanting to know what 316 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.880 is it though? Why are you still here? So many 317 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.559 people seemed to believe that you were going to be out. 318 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:38.720 Something had to have happened. I don't know. And there's 319 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:43.279 a like throw away in line of his where he says, like, Eh, 320 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:46.240 a manager, not bad. I'm kind of jealous. It'd be 321 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:50.640 nice to be immortal. And thankfully Carl brings this up 322 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.640 later and it's sort of like, I don't get it. 323 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:58.160 What's the problem. Everything about getting out of here is 324 00:22:58.279 --> 00:23:01.799 still going to happen the same way, according to what 325 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.640 Mordecai tells him, and he's immortal and protected in a 326 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:12.279 way that he hadn't been so why does he seem 327 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.000 to be upset at having been made a manager and 328 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:20.759 he does not want to talk about it. I am 329 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:29.680 extremely curious, guys. It's killing me, Like there's a there's 330 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.559 a lot of ways that this could go, y'all know that, 331 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.319 Like one of my biggest questions about them choosing to 332 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:43.759 lie to Mordecai. One of my biggest questions was what 333 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:49.119 could this potentially fuck up for him? Because I didn't 334 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.519 like them lying just on GP. You know, this dude's 335 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.680 supposed to be your ally. She knows that he is 336 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.480 not going to like a thing, which I feel like 337 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:02.400 should be reason enough to not do this to him. 338 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.319 But I also didn't have a good sense of what 339 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.640 exactly they'd be fucking up if they did the thing 340 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:16.440 that she was advising them to do. And obviously there 341 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:24.759 is something there is like a kind of consequence to 342 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.720 this choice that they have made that he doesn't even 343 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.400 want to get into, and I can't imagine what it is. 344 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:38.640 I'm like the way that he describes everything. I've been 345 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:44.400 trying to find somewhere to poke holes where I can 346 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.480 be like, okay, well you know the wording of this. 347 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.519 I could if I pay attention to what he's not saying. 348 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:58.000 He's sort of leaving out details about this, and maybe 349 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:02.759 that's something, you know, Like it doesn't it's not really 350 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.759 pointing to. There's nothing that I can sense out of 351 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:12.559 the gate as being sus regarding the freezing of anything 352 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:19.000 or stuff that he's not saying. And the reason that, 353 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.839 the only reasoning that I can come up with here 354 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:30.160 for him to be so withdrawn about what it is 355 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:35.200 that could happen is that there is something that the 356 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:39.960 game makers that he's like trying to hide from them, 357 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:46.480 either regarding his thoughts on this the consequences of it 358 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:50.799 being like, I don't know. I've just torn my head 359 00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:53.000 apart a little bit, guys, trying to figure this out, 360 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:55.440 and I have not been able to come up with 361 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:09.039 any viable theory. So let's see. Let's see. Okay, this 362 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:13.000 is the part where Quinn he I'm sorry, guys, if 363 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:14.599 you can hear that, I don't know what's going on 364 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:20.279 out there. But there is first of all, a hair 365 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:24.400 of the dog potion that they can give to Donut, 366 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:29.160 who is getting quite drunk, to sober her up. And 367 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:36.279 then Mordecai wants to get a kit that is for 368 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:43.400 starting becoming a what do you call it? Not? Well, 369 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.079 is it a pharmacist straight up? Or I'm trying to 370 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:50.200 find the the bit here where he says it a 371 00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.160 starter kit, a suitcase still with everything you need to 372 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.000 start your own pharmaceutical empire. You'll be the Dungeon's next kingpin. Mate, 373 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.079 just don't be selling in my territory. He shot at 374 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.240 me with a pair of finger guns. Quentin is delightful. 375 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.359 He's just a good time. I just like him. That's 376 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:12.000 all I'll say about that. So I'm curious about this because, like, 377 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:20.000 obviously the knowledge that Mordecai has regarding all of the 378 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:26.559 alchemy stuff is invaluable. What the way that he is 379 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:31.279 able to save their asses over and over again? I 380 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:37.119 can't overstate how important this skill obviously is. But I 381 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:44.400 also I'm wondering because, like Carl, he's giving him the recipes, 382 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.079 and Carl's mixing stuff up so that he gets the 383 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.880 XP and he gets the recipes after Mordecai instructs him. 384 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.960 And I wish that there were a way for them 385 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:59.240 to like have an intensive you know, where he goes 386 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.000 into a spot where he can be in a sort 387 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.000 of safe room. Do all this stuff and just like 388 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.319 level up, level up, level up on his alchemy and 389 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.720 learn a bunch of potions at the same time and 390 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:16.599 come out with a bunch of more skills and also 391 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:23.240 more supplies. But I'm wondering if it's possible even to 392 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:28.279 make potions in the safe rooms, because he had tried, 393 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.799 like both he and Donut had tried using spells repeatedly 394 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.599 within the safe rooms in order to level up, and 395 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.279 it had not worked. So I'm kind of at this 396 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.160 point assuming like certain things that sound like they'd be 397 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.759 really great hacks are just not going to function that 398 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.640 way because the rules would make sure that they couldn't. 399 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.839 So let's see. Here is the part where Quinn describes lucymr. 400 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.279 I can't remember what her race was called. She was human, 401 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.480