Speaker 1: The only bug I want to talk about is Spider Man.
Speaker 1: We got more stuff to plug lad more things to
Speaker 1: talk about. But uh, yeah, I'll say I got Patreon questions,
Speaker 1: I got overall questions. Don't need to I guess I
Speaker 1: got the Ron DeMeo score because I don't go to
Speaker 1: usually we predict that. But where's just I'd say, out
Speaker 1: of ten, where's your excitement level? Four? In two days,
Speaker 1: you'll be seen in the theater. It's been five years,
Speaker 1: you know, four and a half. It's still five calendar
Speaker 1: years since we've been watching a live action Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Where is uh, where's the hype that? Right now?
Speaker 2: It's like bubbling under the surface like a dormant volcano.
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like this is me anytime I'm
Speaker 2: like leading up to a vacation, is I just like,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, just don't think about it at all.
Speaker 2: And like for some reason, Spidey just feels so far
Speaker 2: away still because I'm just like just think about work
Speaker 2: and like what I have to do, like get stuff
Speaker 2: done before my time off.
Speaker 3: So I'm just really.
Speaker 2: Focused on that right now. But then it's like I
Speaker 2: think you just said two days away is spidy? And
Speaker 2: yeah too, sleep.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. It's it's super crazy. I was talking
Speaker 2: to someone at work about that today and it was
Speaker 2: getting me more amped, like the more I was talking
Speaker 2: talking about it, just because it has been so long.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that suit on the Bake
Speaker 2: screen man.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is like.
Speaker 2: The one just baseline. It's looked so amazing since the
Speaker 2: end of that last movie and then through all the trailers,
Speaker 2: that suit looks so gorgeous. Uh, can't wait to see
Speaker 2: like Sadie Scenk in action too, just because there's been
Speaker 2: so much like I don't know, smoking daggers like around
Speaker 2: that character. Yeah exactly, Like, yeah, it's the worst around.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like I just I'm excited
Speaker 2: to just reveal that, you know, reveal that.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a trope though. I feel
Speaker 1: like I was thinking about this because someone was talking
Speaker 1: about Mysterio and the multiverse thing I was reading like
Speaker 1: on Comic Con Sunday, and I thought they're going somewhere
Speaker 1: else with the posts and they didn't go there. But
Speaker 1: almost every film has had this mystery box, right like MJ.
Speaker 1: They they weren't presenting as that. But Zende end up
Speaker 1: being a mystery box, right, mysterious whole thing was is
Speaker 1: he from that earth? And is he actually have powers?
Speaker 1: This time? No way home? Was is Andrew and Toby
Speaker 1: are they not? And and then this one. It's when
Speaker 1: I feel like all those ones in the past we
Speaker 1: knew the answer going I think the only one we
Speaker 1: really didn't was if Misterio was from the earth that
Speaker 1: he said he was. But I think we all kind
Speaker 1: of thought that, Okay, he's probably a fraudster. But it's
Speaker 1: funny that all these spier Man's secrets that are right
Speaker 1: before the release, we're all kind of like, all right,
Speaker 1: we know what's going on here, but we're still like
Speaker 1: hype to find out and see how the execute which
Speaker 1: I always say he's sink right, to see how that
Speaker 1: all goes down, because again it's go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm also just excited to see a part of the MCU.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a long build up and wait time,
Speaker 2: so just what they build up on here. I imagine
Speaker 2: she's gonna have some significant roles going forward, especially if
Speaker 2: we get that inevitable Phoenix. The Phoenix saga that I
Speaker 2: always hate. I imagine that's gonna come no matter what
Speaker 2: if it is Jean Gray.
Speaker 1: And I will say everybody, we have not I've not
Speaker 1: read or listened to any I listened to one review,
Speaker 1: that's it. I've read like the non sports like headlines
Speaker 1: for on to Matos. But anything we're talking as us speculating.
Speaker 1: So I think even the postcrads out there, I don't
Speaker 1: know that. Luckily, I'm pretty good on that tip of
Speaker 1: stuff because usually because now I've been watching. The times
Speaker 1: I'm the worst is if I watch a podcast live
Speaker 1: on YouTube and the chat someone's an asoline just happen
Speaker 1: to see it. But now I'm using app that gives
Speaker 1: me YouTube premium in a for free I'll just say,
Speaker 1: so that work. That helps because I'm a big like
Speaker 1: close the you know, yeah whatever. So anything we're talking
Speaker 1: about is still speculation. We know nothing. So just in
Speaker 1: case it's like, oh, you're splotting, No, no, we know nothing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: Know. I'm completely blind beyond or.
Speaker 3: Yeah past like the trailers.
Speaker 2: That's all I ever re lyas seen on this. I
Speaker 2: haven't read anything. I haven't like looked into any leaked information,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a nice place to be, even
Speaker 2: though I always think that these Sony trailers just revealed
Speaker 2: so much. You know me, I'm always just so upset
Speaker 2: with like how much they showed around, like the Peter
Speaker 2: and MJ dynamic even ned I'll throw that name in
Speaker 2: there now. I totally understand why you have to have
Speaker 2: Zindea all over these movies because she just sells tickets
Speaker 2: and the whole dynamic between Tom Hollins and Deya mirroring
Speaker 2: like the uh, the MJ and Peter like, like, people
Speaker 2: just love that chemistry of those two. So I feel
Speaker 2: like they would go see this movie because of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: She's just not anywhere to be seen. It's just a
Speaker 2: lot harder ticket to sell.
Speaker 1: But plus, I feel like now with all the stuff
Speaker 1: they're doing and all the promotion, I feel like we
Speaker 1: would have we would have kind of figured it out right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm assuming that she still had been doing the
Speaker 1: red carpet all that type of stuff. But it's very
Speaker 1: much been the same as before. It's Tom's and Daya
Speaker 1: and Jacob Battelon or however you say his last name.
Speaker 1: I can't remember it, but like it's those three, right,
Speaker 1: It's the same rigamarole. So I don't know how much
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the actual film. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on, but uh yeah, I think we would have
Speaker 1: been like, oh, they're they're in this a lot. So
Speaker 1: it's almost like the previous I'm kinda happy they confirmed
Speaker 1: it because then I know that I would be mad
Speaker 1: in the movie by a little disappointed because I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not doing the let's give Peter Parker a break.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be probably first ten minutes he's watching MJ.
Speaker 1: And they're interacting or he's almost interacting, right, So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna gonna be a big theme. And at
Speaker 1: least the one thing I can say that semi guess helps.
Speaker 1: It doesn't help it from movie to movie, but at
Speaker 1: least it has been five years in real time, right,
Speaker 1: So it does feel like, okay, even if the next
Speaker 1: movie it's hey, MJ's back in the character's life, it
Speaker 1: has been a while, so it's not all you can't
Speaker 1: say the character hasn't felt it. I would be more
Speaker 1: pissed if it was like a year or two later,
Speaker 1: inspierman Ko in twenty twenty three. It's like, well, it's
Speaker 1: only been that where now it's like, Okay, it's been
Speaker 1: five years, so yeah, I guess Peter has been through
Speaker 1: the shit missing her, right, So.
Speaker 2: If it was like you know, for example, Mando says
Speaker 2: goodbye to grow.
Speaker 1: Goose, absolutely it comes back and.
Speaker 2: Bubba fat and then next time you see Boba or
Speaker 2: sorry Mando, they're just back together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's fine. Yes, that's the most egregious I'm glad
Speaker 1: you brought that up as an example.
Speaker 2: So I also feel like part of me is just
Speaker 2: still just cursed from that Far from Home trailer where
Speaker 2: I thought it was like great trailer up until the
Speaker 2: point that they just had the oh well you're Spider
Speaker 2: Man obviously, like just that. I was so bitter about that,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I still kind of am.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see the third trailer I put up
Speaker 1: for this movie for this one? Yeah? Maybe all right,
Speaker 1: bringing up right down, no joking that I think actually
Speaker 1: know what you did, because we saw, honestly, that's the
Speaker 1: one where was the best of trailer. We're showing them
Speaker 1: like in the trilogy, growing up, and there's a few
Speaker 1: new scenes, so you got to give them that credit
Speaker 1: where they're kind.
Speaker 2: Of hidalgo during that, and I'm like, imagine if you
Speaker 2: haven't seen any of these movies before and you're just
Speaker 2: getting them all fucking just spoiled a.
Speaker 1: Big movie, or someone's saying it's a huge movie, they're like,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of years to cover Spider in the
Speaker 1: high school years, right, they're doing the Raimie. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I plawed them for that because I think there was
Speaker 1: like a new Hulk scene and knew this, but that
Speaker 1: was the right way to go for a final trailer
Speaker 1: because and also maybe they just felt like once they
Speaker 1: saw the track, which we'll talk about, I think they're like,
Speaker 1: we're good, Like we we like, this movie's selling Gangbusters.
Speaker 1: We don't need to say anymore. I said that multiple times, right,
Speaker 1: And that's why I think even without the secrets, I
Speaker 1: think the trailers have been just fine. So that's where
Speaker 1: I don't know where my excitement is at. So it's interesting,
Speaker 1: not that I care about this because there's many movies.
Speaker 1: I've told those before. Hook Ron on raw Tomatoes and
Speaker 1: I one of all time's firriits right, but funny enough,
Speaker 1: this is so it's at ninety percent certified fresh, so
Speaker 1: it's great for the critics. That is actually the lowest
Speaker 1: tom Holmes Spider Man movie, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 1: It's been bouncing back at starting nine three one to
Speaker 1: eighty eight, so that's been an interesting So I can't
Speaker 1: really gauge it from that because I don't know is
Speaker 1: it like something different? And that's why a few people
Speaker 1: are met on it. I think from what I've seen
Speaker 1: and what I think we all worried about, I think
Speaker 1: the biggest criticism this movie's gonna have is maybe too
Speaker 1: much going on, which is like it could be right
Speaker 1: because if Sadie Sink is Geen Gray, to me, that
Speaker 1: has to be like a sizable even then it's sizable
Speaker 1: because Sadie Sink she's building up. But if it's Jean
Speaker 1: Gray and an X Men, that has to be a
Speaker 1: sizeable portion of this movie. Right. You can't just nearly
Speaker 1: introduced your first mcux men. It's just kind of there. Right.
Speaker 1: You got Her, you got Hulk, you got Punisher, you
Speaker 1: got the guy from Severn Slash Mission impossible, the sub scene,
Speaker 1: you got MJ Ned, you got Scorpion, you got the Hand,
Speaker 1: you got whatever else is going on.
Speaker 3: You barely got Scorpion.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think you're gonna find him twice.
Speaker 1: I think, I think, uh, I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna pop up. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. So yeah, I think that's the
Speaker 1: only way I have is is there too much going on?
Speaker 1: And is it gonna be one of those that the
Speaker 1: movie starts to sing, but then they have to serve
Speaker 1: too many masters, like, well, we gotta make sure we
Speaker 1: set up punish sure for his next arc, and we
Speaker 1: gotta make sure we set up cities and not saying
Speaker 1: those are wrong things, but will they flow or not flow?
Speaker 1: Which I don't know. I think one of the best
Speaker 1: cases of them flowing is like a setup and it's
Speaker 1: still finishing, not for the Avengers, but it's like civil
Speaker 1: War where so many resolutions happen. But it feels like
Speaker 1: T'Challa was set up nicely and Peter was set up nicely,
Speaker 1: and We're black Widow was going as nicely. You though
Speaker 1: we got her film what is it?
Speaker 2: Four? No?
Speaker 1: Five years later? It's so prequel that But I think that,
Speaker 1: to me is the best example of moving something forward
Speaker 1: while balancing about stuff. So I think that's where I'm
Speaker 1: just looking for. I think I'm still definitely gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm I'm thinking this as like
Speaker 1: I'll be disappointed if it's No. Eight or higher. That's
Speaker 1: where my kind of bar is. I know someonda be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of high. I don't relatively think so, because
Speaker 1: I have Spider Man Homecoming and far from Home in
Speaker 1: like the seven to seven point five range, and then
Speaker 1: No Way Home. I have it at ten and this,
Speaker 1: so I think that's like right in the middle. And
Speaker 1: what I've seen from just what we talked about with
Speaker 1: some of these shots hestributed to the comic books Spider Man,
Speaker 1: the suit, the way he's acting, as far as seeing
Speaker 1: a bit more downtrodden, I think they can hit on something.
Speaker 1: So I think I got a good gauge where I'm
Speaker 1: expecting it to be a good Spider Man movie, but
Speaker 1: not the best and also not like a top ten MSU,
Speaker 1: but it is great. Who knows, because like Fantastic four,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in my top ten, but
Speaker 1: it's right there some of the Thunderbolts, so they've they've
Speaker 1: done it recently, so I don't discount them pulling it off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I'm right there with you. On
Speaker 2: the eight out of ten. I think it's a good
Speaker 2: number to kind of be out of. I was thinking
Speaker 2: of going higher just because I really do love this
Speaker 2: the home trilogy series that we've been on with Tom
Speaker 2: Holland and crew. This one is like kind of a
Speaker 2: wild card for me though, because it's like, because of
Speaker 2: the reset and kind of where Spider Man is, I'm
Speaker 2: like a little bit worried that I won't necessarily love
Speaker 2: how how that's kind of handled.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's just kind of a gloomy cloud over my head
Speaker 2: on what's giving me those thoughts. But overall, like I
Speaker 2: am still expecting to really enjoy the character dynamics. I
Speaker 2: kind of have low expectations with Frank, Like I'm I
Speaker 2: am too.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about were you around when I was talking about,
Speaker 1: oh you were an on comic Con. They I'll just like,
Speaker 1: I think it's too big a spoiler, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say I think this helps you to prep it. It's
Speaker 1: just an awesome see Spider Man and Frank have seen
Speaker 1: with the Hulk, right, and it was in the TV
Speaker 1: spot and the scene was going around, it was in
Speaker 1: the Marble Discords. You might even saw. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: you laugh reacted, so I think you saw it. It's
Speaker 1: there's just an image of what Hulk pops up and
Speaker 1: Frank just like whoa, and he looks like scared out
Speaker 1: of his life. Now, granted, I'm not sitting here saying
Speaker 1: that the punisher should be able to take on the Hulk,
Speaker 1: nor should he not be surprised, but the way berth
Speaker 1: All sold it in that scene, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, and I think this is really gonna
Speaker 1: put it to the test because I don't know if
Speaker 1: I speak here. I love John.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Frank Castle looking like this,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing that in two days. I love
Speaker 1: John birth. Now I don't agree with everything that the
Speaker 1: guy has ever said or done, you know, like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I really didn't like his kind of like
Speaker 1: trying to rehab the image of Shilah. BUFF really didn't
Speaker 1: like that that tour. And I get it to your friend,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, man, I think we all
Speaker 1: kind of call that and look, now, yeah, it's a choice, right,
Speaker 1: But I think for me, I've always just maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I've just kind of had a bit of a bullshit
Speaker 1: meter on the whole, like, well, I'm only gonna do
Speaker 1: Frank if it like does the character justice right, and
Speaker 1: like it's a great thing to say. I think Expierman's
Speaker 1: gonna money. I think expier Man's really gonna put to
Speaker 1: the test. Because I've said this before. People were fucking
Speaker 1: shocked when I would say this or be fine and
Speaker 1: be like I could still buy Punish in a PG
Speaker 1: thirteen world, Like give that to me enough, and there's
Speaker 1: a way I want birth all back. You can make
Speaker 1: it work like punishers in the Superman Animate series in
Speaker 1: the nineties and that works there. That's fine with me.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like the one last kill spot
Speaker 1: Punisher to what we're gonna maybe get here, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just interested, like how much is he gonna
Speaker 1: be maybe equipping, like because I just feel like the
Speaker 1: few times we've seen him, he just seems like a
Speaker 1: bit more upbeat of like I feel like after one
Speaker 1: last kill, that's not where I left him, right. So
Speaker 1: I do agree somewhat where it's like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't come back for dinner of Warning again because the
Speaker 1: image wasn't there, Say okay, but at the same times,
Speaker 1: like Kirkin said, or was it just the bag wasn't there?
Speaker 1: Or was it kind of there? And then you know,
Speaker 1: you know, things changed along the way, and then Camp
Speaker 1: definitely locked in. I really don't know, right, I don't
Speaker 1: know the man. This is just gonna be the test.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see people's reaction because I see
Speaker 1: so many people throw that up. I was like, a like, A, oh,
Speaker 1: he's he's one of us. He wouldn't do it if
Speaker 1: they didn't do this, And we'll see what happens here.
Speaker 1: And I really don't want him to be misused because
Speaker 1: I was disappointed with one last kill. I guess the
Speaker 1: good thing is I at least I hope the general
Speaker 1: audience likes him, and then that means we can get
Speaker 1: more of them in whether it shows or movie. But
Speaker 1: I really those are two things to me. If Sadie
Speaker 1: Sink is Jean Gray, which I think she is, I
Speaker 1: think they have to nail that introduction. And I really
Speaker 1: want them to use U punisher right as we've talked
Speaker 1: about before. I don't want just like even if you
Speaker 1: seen the scenes of them arguing, like the where are
Speaker 1: you for?
Speaker 2: You do that like why webs him or a different one.
Speaker 1: No, it's a different one, so it only you've seen that,
Speaker 1: but it's them arguing. I just like, I just need
Speaker 1: a scene where like, are they gonna ever talk about
Speaker 1: their differences of how they crime fight and everything like that,
Speaker 1: So like that will definitely be a full And that's
Speaker 1: what to me is super disappointing. And that's where I
Speaker 1: could see myself going lower below and eight where I go,
Speaker 1: there's too much here and there's not. It's great that
Speaker 1: Punisher's in this, but if we didn't use him correctly,
Speaker 1: was it worth it? Because now it's like, well, he's
Speaker 1: just kind of around. I don't know. Again, we'll see
Speaker 1: I've had these worries before. We've been around me and see.
Speaker 1: I remember when Gardens two was coming out. I don't
Speaker 1: like any of those trailers. It's like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: think I like this movie. I end up loving it.
Speaker 1: It's arguably my favorite of them. So you never know,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there in the theater. It's just little fears
Speaker 1: I have because like obviously, again this saga has not
Speaker 1: been without its massive bumps, right, so you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Frank is probably like one of the
Speaker 2: highest things. I'm kind of worried about out in this movie,
Speaker 2: which is crazy to think about because it's just such
Speaker 2: a long time coming for specifically Jumperenthal's Punisher.
Speaker 1: And Spider Man to share.
Speaker 3: That's exactly.
Speaker 2: That's that is nuts, And I do like what you
Speaker 2: said there, Like I hope it hits with the general
Speaker 2: audience and we just get more of him because just
Speaker 2: picturing that dynamic of like if John Burthall sticks around
Speaker 2: with this Punisher character and it is just a more
Speaker 2: peag thirteen setting, but they do it right. They're not
Speaker 2: trying to do too much with it to make it
Speaker 2: just seem super campy having Punisher with like the future
Speaker 2: X Men and like other chart like that.
Speaker 3: That's just kind of a fun idea. Yeah, exactly, veterans.
Speaker 2: And then maybe if you don't get those, like seeing
Speaker 2: the differences between the two characters in this movie, maybe
Speaker 2: you get it further down the line and it's it's
Speaker 2: done here with oppose someone like a cap or Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though you could do it with all of these
Speaker 2: types of heroes, because it is just such a different
Speaker 2: type of hero. Frank Castle the Punisher, of course, to
Speaker 2: what we're used to seeing.
Speaker 1: And also then too, I hope if they're it's like,
Speaker 1: if we watch this and we feel all this punish
Speaker 1: is a lot different than the other stuff, then I
Speaker 1: wish they just used one last killing is there? You know?
Speaker 1: I wish they use this like, hey, we're gonna vol
Speaker 1: them a little bit and you know, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: He's just fallen from the rooftop lands on a fireman tag.
Speaker 1: But he survives. He survives.
Speaker 3: Yeahs.
Speaker 2: The last thing I wanted to say on the on
Speaker 2: the movie that I'm really hope. I'm really hoping these
Speaker 2: action scenes.
Speaker 3: Like really hit.
Speaker 1: I think we're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like some of the Slomost scenes that they
Speaker 2: showed off in the like in the trailer I was
Speaker 2: really vibing with, especially like the with the hand and
Speaker 2: like in the prison sequence or whatever, Like, I hope
Speaker 2: those scenes are really memorable for me and just makes
Speaker 2: three watch that much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no doubt because it's on Chi that
Speaker 1: it's gonna deliver that that that's one of the highlights
Speaker 1: of that movie. Right. So, Yeah, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: the Hand. I'm looking forward to even if it is
Speaker 1: Jeane Gray, because we know they'll do the class like
Speaker 1: their pose and got a fight? What does that fight
Speaker 1: look like? Because again you know, saying what you want
Speaker 1: to spier Man's an al Teimer hero, but Jean Gray
Speaker 1: should be able to dismantle him pretty easily, like with her.
Speaker 2: But gonna make like a magneto helmet out of web.
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, over his ears. But again, the what I've
Speaker 1: theorized is I think in the years, Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: the she's just shown him and again banged by that
Speaker 1: new boyfriend. Ah, he's doing the hole that damn thing.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's where I theorized too. I am
Speaker 1: completely fine if this is a Jean Gray that doesn't
Speaker 1: have full control over powers, you know, because then that
Speaker 1: explains why she couldn't beat Spider Man, why she couldn't
Speaker 1: just like mind fuck them and be done with it.
Speaker 1: The other thing, I guess I really want to know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure there'll shows in the movie if Frank
Speaker 1: is protecting Jing Gray, which we've kind of like, like
Speaker 1: there's been rumors about what we've seen set photos. I
Speaker 1: really want to know that meet up because that's something
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't care about that at all,
Speaker 1: where people oh, well, Punisher in Jean Gray. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a like that doesn't make much sense. Why is that? Like,
Speaker 1: don't get wrong, it is weird, but I don't mind
Speaker 1: those weird connections and make something new. Even Gen Gray
Speaker 1: being in a Spider Man movie, people go, oh, why
Speaker 1: they gonna It's just so funny, right, because so many
Speaker 1: people die on these fucking hills. You know, there's like
Speaker 1: a I'll just say, I'm only in two discords. It's ours,
Speaker 1: and then there's another discord am in that's like has
Speaker 1: to do with like some Scoopers and whatnot. There's people
Speaker 1: in there, and there's some and I just have to
Speaker 1: remind people sometimes they just talk so surely about like
Speaker 1: things with the comics and this and that, and I
Speaker 1: remember that being a big thing, like, oh, well, they'd
Speaker 1: never put Geen Gray and Spider Man because you know
Speaker 1: they don't own that movie and uh, you know how big?
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do there? Like they would never
Speaker 1: have the first Gen Gray appearance in this movie. One,
Speaker 1: I think you're about to live that. But two, as
Speaker 1: we've seen this tracking, why like almost like why wouldn't they?
Speaker 1: And I think we talked about that many times before, right,
Speaker 1: but just because it looks more like like cemented, it's
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be one of the biggest movies of
Speaker 1: this decade. Why wouldn't you debut your first X Men there?
Speaker 1: Because at the end you're still going an X Men
Speaker 1: movie where Sadie sinks. There. The audience doesn't think about
Speaker 1: this the same way we do when they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's They just think spier Man is a Disney fucking movie.
Speaker 1: And two, in the States, they have a deal where
Speaker 1: the Sony movies, I think they go on Netflix right
Speaker 1: away for like a year, and then they end up
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus, so like you're gonna be watching it
Speaker 1: one day and the Spider Man tab's gonna be there
Speaker 1: with that movie. So it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's just funny that people were so cement on that
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's gonna happen, And yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know why, how did Franken Jean Gray like it? Really?
Speaker 1: And maybe she's the reason, Maybe she's the reason he's
Speaker 1: more like her. Maybe in uh, one season of Daredevil,
Speaker 1: two seasons of Punisher, one season of Born Again, and
Speaker 1: then one Last Kill when he's always like, hey, you
Speaker 1: gotta you missing some parents. Maybe Jean's finally the like
Speaker 1: the one that he like kind of adopts, adopts right,
Speaker 1: and that like softs and stuff. So we'll see where
Speaker 1: maybe she does.
Speaker 3: Like scrambles his brain.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't even think about that though. How many
Speaker 1: how much not a goofle but how many times do
Speaker 1: is Jean Gray kind of like relax the brain of Wolverine,
Speaker 1: right and soothe them and maybe, like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: if that's how they handwave it, I'm like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: been through some stuff, but Gena, she really helped me.
Speaker 1: I'll go like, alright, I'll like, I'll at least so
Speaker 1: I'll like, I want at least a line or two
Speaker 1: of why Frank's acting different than nothing. If that's what
Speaker 1: they go for sure, it's a little easy, but like
Speaker 1: there's precedent, right, She's used that on Logan to help him,
Speaker 1: so why not Frank, who's a similar character who's been
Speaker 1: through a bunch of PTSD.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm just I'm just picturing one point, Spider
Speaker 2: Man notices he's got like a scar in his head.
Speaker 2: He's basically like the guy that was the bottom eyed from.
Speaker 3: A planet of the Apes. He's just so goofy.
Speaker 2: Now he's like totally just quipping and like giggling all
Speaker 2: the time, just totally dumb and dumber character.
Speaker 1: God, man, I want to watch that again. I fucking
Speaker 1: love that first movie. Man, it's just so good. So
Speaker 1: No Planet Apes, I don't know, he's so good too,
Speaker 1: But Planting the Apes this is a it's a great one.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We refer to that on on Comic Con. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure did you listen to that all or anything? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If it goes too long, I won't
Speaker 1: bring it up. But David had a good catch while
Speaker 1: we were watching it, and all of a sudden the panel,
Speaker 1: David Johnson walks up and I'll maybe I'll just bring
Speaker 1: it up. Winston Duke, who plays in Baku, he's fucking
Speaker 1: massive right now, GV big. So David brought this clip.
Speaker 1: He's like, look when he's when look when he hugs
Speaker 1: David Johnson, he like swallows him up like it looks
Speaker 1: like not even bigger, and it was I brought that meme.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's literally the Charlton Hesson plan of Gapes.
Speaker 1: Two things. That's what it looked like and I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: if I was Dave Johnson, I'd be like, I gotta
Speaker 1: fucking get to the gym right now, Like Winston, Duke
Speaker 1: is in impressive shape right now. So that's why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's why when we were joking last week about
Speaker 1: like him being taller than the thing, it's like, I
Speaker 1: guess he is, Like Duke is just a fucking like
Speaker 1: specimen sort of thing. But as we do, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we could use AI but I'll try not to. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and a big thank you to everybody. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we're we got to see at the end of the month,
Speaker 1: but I think this month's gonna be in our top five,
Speaker 1: so we're very grateful for that. Austy's our second biggest
Speaker 1: review of the year, which knocked off I forgot to
Speaker 1: update you, Kirkland. The Ufore season series finale was our
Speaker 1: second before Austy came in. But that climb of number two,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to be sure, but yeah, one, we
Speaker 1: almost gave up on that series. That's crazy that happened.
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. But we got that and
Speaker 1: then even oh and the Avengers Doomsday trailer within like
Speaker 1: a few days. Top ten, that's our number eight for
Speaker 1: the year. I think that's still climbing. So again, big
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Speaker 1: So we really appreciate all the times and looking forward
Speaker 1: to GDA happening soon. But yeah, we got some questions
Speaker 1: here and I got some more from you, kind of
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, Kirkland Superman Mike says, I'm most
Speaker 1: excited to see the creativity between Desldiny and Crenne brings
Speaker 1: to the Swing and the fights. Yeah. The Swing already
Speaker 1: has looked like it's like trouncing the Homecoming Trijan That works, right, trouncing, Yeah, trouncing. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's word. John wants to drop the wall and that
Speaker 1: aspect in the last three for me, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: I don't think Peter ever had that that, you know.
Speaker 1: And then look, it's like the it's like the Traveler,
Speaker 1: it's like the Taylor thing. Clay sends me a message
Speaker 1: massive paragraph Clay, I'm I'm I'm gonna get to a
Speaker 1: second but uh and he takes it too because I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I got some. I say like, oh, there's Katherin Bigelow.
Speaker 1: She's known for oscars and populist movies. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: other than these two, what other populars? It's like they'll
Speaker 1: still count. They're still populist movies. They still count. You
Speaker 1: can't take those away from me. But that's fine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think those are gonna look great. H sou says well, Spiderman.
Speaker 1: The spider Man, Brandy explain means in six one six,
Speaker 1: let's say her for sad break, and then we'll discuss
Speaker 1: that right after we'll be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't because I don't know why,
Speaker 1: why or how Jean's here? Right? Is Jane here? Because
Speaker 1: it's just the X Men have started, the munes have started,
Speaker 1: the mune jeens started, and people are popping up. Is
Speaker 1: she from like a different universes? She's here? So I
Speaker 1: know it's a it's a boring answer. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll just take the easy answer and say no, yeah, Davy,
Speaker 1: you fucking Bastard, him and Brand and Chris. They got
Speaker 1: the early screenings. They're seeing it tomorrow, so uh, enjoy,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but there you go that that's also
Speaker 1: my weekend. We got Spider Man and then this weekend
Speaker 1: because you're gone. I got the Gimmick on Saturday, gimme
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Game of Thrones on Sunday. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I'm or raised, is you gone? Or is yeah? It's
Speaker 1: you gone? No, I'm not. I'm two behind, so I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get going. But no, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, I'm excited to watch and listen to
Speaker 1: the At some point I hadn't mute it. I I
Speaker 1: you know when I when I when you guys told
Speaker 1: me the person in the chat, I had to come
Speaker 1: looking and I had it mute because I don't get spoiled.
Speaker 1: But I saw you chuck on a couple of times.
Speaker 1: So uh, Brand new Day Mutanes explained, I'll just say no,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they will wait till either Secret
Speaker 1: Wars or X Men they do the full kid kaboodle.
Speaker 1: I think this will just be the that's Jean Gray
Speaker 1: and everyone knows the fucking name and that's good for now.
Speaker 2: I don't think they really even have to explain anything
Speaker 2: like with her power, Like she could just be powered
Speaker 2: and we're just gonna be going going along with our
Speaker 2: lives here.
Speaker 3: I mean, because even.
Speaker 1: Jeans is just puberty. That's what happens. You have puberty,
Speaker 1: you get powers, ye know.
Speaker 2: And like we've already tackled a couple mutants already at
Speaker 2: this point in time. So yeah, I think it could
Speaker 2: still just be trickling until you get to that big
Speaker 2: movie where there's there's multiple and then that's where they
Speaker 2: kind of want to unpack that onion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has he signed on for an ex experiment movie?
Speaker 1: I don't know what I imagine. So the way he's talking,
Speaker 1: the way the movie tracking, Yeah, which not great for
Speaker 1: some she too, But you know, that movie's not happening.
Speaker 1: Let's let's be honest that they're they're fucking announcing a
Speaker 1: Ghostwrider movie and some she too is still there collecting dust.
Speaker 1: You know, I still get over the play. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: still at least got a movie, right.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you think the d O d C will play
Speaker 1: a big role in the next Yeah, because that's like
Speaker 1: the anti immutant Task Force Kirkland. So it's like I
Speaker 1: would think so like and I think that makes I
Speaker 1: can't remember what their fucking the d d C stands for,
Speaker 1: but I think that's probably better than doing like the
Speaker 1: Friends of Humanity because I feel like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I would like them too. What what I would like
Speaker 1: them too? I've said I want X men to go
Speaker 1: hard on the politics, the real est, the real life stuff,
Speaker 1: but I think Disney be oh Friends of Humanity, Like
Speaker 1: that's too close to like other things that are in
Speaker 1: real life right now in my opinion.
Speaker 2: You know what if we call them the Incredible Crime
Speaker 2: Enforcement ICE for short, well they you.
Speaker 1: Know, they didn't call them that Daredevil season whatever they
Speaker 1: that was. That was nice, right, that was going on.
Speaker 1: So absolutely I have I think another question here, but
Speaker 1: I will ask you as we end this officer right now.
Speaker 1: There was a third party Box Office projector tracking right
Speaker 1: and they said that this is tracking anywhere from seven
Speaker 1: hundred to eight hundred million this weekend, so not domestic
Speaker 1: but like the global thing. Sony came out today and
Speaker 1: said we're looking at four sixty to five hundred. They're
Speaker 1: being very light because even no Way Home I'll bring
Speaker 1: the stats that made six hundred million. So it's with
Speaker 1: a ballpark. So one I'm gonna ask you, I guess
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the two things here. I don't even
Speaker 1: need a specific number. One will beat let's start this.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna beat No Way Home? Opening weekend? No? Okay?
Speaker 3: What was hold on? Let me let me look.
Speaker 1: No Way Home was like two sixty and right now
Speaker 1: this is tracking from two sixty to three hundred, which
Speaker 1: is fucking crazy. Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, that changes, That changes things.
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't tell you that before I do.
Speaker 2: One of the answer, it's hard to believe it would
Speaker 2: because there is so much human commodle whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call that for.
Speaker 1: Uh, a human commutal What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's saying means, but uh, you
Speaker 2: know some some hubbub.
Speaker 3: You don't use that word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I guess, like the thing with No Way
Speaker 2: Home is, like I understand why it had the legs
Speaker 2: it did because of that. So like once people kind
Speaker 2: of probably knew that those characters were in like after
Speaker 2: the initial weekend, maybe that's where it really started to rise,
Speaker 2: where this movie might be the opposite.
Speaker 3: It might be the opposite.
Speaker 2: It might be the opposite though it might be like
Speaker 2: a really high peak and then it doesn't have the
Speaker 2: legs because there isn't as many like crazy reveals.
Speaker 1: But is that what you're taking if your pizza been
Speaker 1: someone I know, right, Like, that's I'm taking the interesting I.
Speaker 3: Think people, well, it's gonna do better.
Speaker 1: I well, okay, here's the thing. So I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna no matter what, have good legs. I did not
Speaker 1: think that before with the tracking, I think I've just
Speaker 1: kind of gone. I guess it is. And we talked
Speaker 1: about that in the Marvel discord because we were like why,
Speaker 1: you know, because like you don't have the room, you know,
Speaker 1: the returning people. You don't even have anyone who's like
Speaker 1: a big villain, and like all do to respect to
Speaker 1: Sadie sinc. She's like even Tom Cruise is struggling in
Speaker 1: open movies, right, so it's like she's no, she's just
Speaker 1: starting out like not just but you know she's she's
Speaker 1: building to be a star, right, so she's not like
Speaker 1: a huge, massive draw, So it's not her. We were
Speaker 1: talking like Iestow and stuff like is it just because
Speaker 1: it's been five years and people missed the character, which
Speaker 1: does give me hope because I think we talked about
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago with Batman two being delayed.
Speaker 1: Now with this doing so well on the tracking and
Speaker 1: probably the weekend coming up, this does make me feel
Speaker 1: better about that because I was like, man, like five
Speaker 1: to six years, like are people going to care? But
Speaker 1: now at this it's been five years, but it's been
Speaker 1: It's Batman. Though Batman had had Bidy Spidey.
Speaker 2: Bitey's more family friendly than Batman.
Speaker 1: Sure, but who had two billion dollar movies first Batman
Speaker 1: he beats Spidey to Yeah, Dark Knight and Darknight Rises.
Speaker 1: Spider is your last performing movie. I know, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I'm saying things can change, and I also
Speaker 1: think that the Batman series that vibe does not go
Speaker 1: for billion dollar like that vibe right where I feel
Speaker 1: like The Dark Knight, even though it's more, it's still
Speaker 1: heading lots of talking, way more family friendly. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that, like Batman can't have that juice too.
Speaker 1: Depending on the circumstance. Spider Man didn't get a billion
Speaker 1: dollar movie till twenty nineteen. Nolan did that sh In
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and he did that shin twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah two Spidey Spidy script.
Speaker 1: God damn no, No, I haven't Frank Castle in it, dude,
Speaker 1: Oh my, yes, Well he's got his cast and he's
Speaker 1: got some dances. Name who who would you actually know what?
Speaker 1: Even though like if they brought their in I saw Coleman,
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't Coleman, Matt Daan would be an
Speaker 1: incredible Norman Osborne man. He would be.
Speaker 2: So good he would actually that would be like an
Speaker 2: Oscar winning performance.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: We should totally sell you on, like the good guy Norman.
Speaker 2: And then that switch, when the switch happens, it would
Speaker 2: be so gut wrenching.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1: That sucks. I was gonna say, oh, you can get
Speaker 1: his son to play hair, but you can't because that's
Speaker 1: Tom Holland. Who's another young guy you get?
Speaker 2: Whoever?
Speaker 1: That fucking that guy who they cast is young Rob Passon,
Speaker 1: who they did a good job in Austy like the
Speaker 1: young that could be his Harry. Uh everyone, check out
Speaker 1: we're gonna do for Brentan Butterton ORMs.
Speaker 3: Will be Harry.
Speaker 1: Is he an old guy? You think no one likes
Speaker 1: Austin Abrams.
Speaker 2: He will evil, He's gonna love them after that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you know who he'd get Interstellar, Timmy shall May,
Speaker 1: he's worked with them before.
Speaker 3: That's oh my god, is Harry Osbourne?
Speaker 1: And then they can they can really play at those means.
Speaker 1: Remember their day, yes, remember the Dune marketing when everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Tiothy really wants is a day and he can't have.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, this is spicy what we're cooking here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and remember this what we should do tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're recording a Bread and Butter for patrons that are producers.
Speaker 1: So the the phase four tier we're recording, we're looking
Speaker 1: at all the actors that were wormort to play Spider Man,
Speaker 1: whether it's in Toby era or the Tom era or
Speaker 1: the Andrew and then there were villains, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: rank them. I'm gonna try and remember say this topic
Speaker 1: and we'll get the boys and we'll recast like pick
Speaker 1: all the Odyssey cast people and who could be in
Speaker 1: the next sperim, like who could Lapita Bee? Who could
Speaker 1: jog Go zombies? So we're gonna stop there. You gotta
Speaker 1: tease it so that's reason that's an exclusive episode right there,
Speaker 1: join the tier, and that's gonna be a fun one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at all like we're gonna watch Josh
Speaker 1: Hearnette's audition for Spider Man. I'm not sure you've ever
Speaker 1: seen that before. No, yeah, it's out there? So or no,
Speaker 1: is it Josh Hearnette?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, who know? Josh Hutcherson Sorry, Josh Hutchison's.
Speaker 3: That's I pictured?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, have you seen that one before?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, oyeah, there you go, we're gonna do that. So
Speaker 1: and this is where I was gonna bring up. So
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, okay, anyways we're talking about yeah, nol.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying Batman can't have that juice too, right.
Speaker 1: Do I think the DCU Batman's gonna have that juice?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I do not. But I'm just saying like it all
Speaker 1: depends at that time, because look at Spider Man, it's
Speaker 1: still in seven hundred million. But in the Amazing Era
Speaker 1: you can have times. Right. I think even though people
Speaker 1: can have their issues with Spider Man, that Homecoming trilogy
Speaker 1: was overall good quality. I think for the general audience
Speaker 1: to like great to love to even good. So that's
Speaker 1: where way better than amazing. You got Hall and in
Speaker 1: Zindia that I think have grown in stock both acting
Speaker 1: and as people. So far, they've had no like big
Speaker 1: controversy to make you dislike them. Zendia just seems like
Speaker 1: a very fun person. And then Tom All and I
Speaker 1: have said this before, I feel like he's the guy
Speaker 1: that you want to go get dinner with, like to
Speaker 1: hang out with or date like for if you're into
Speaker 1: him or not, Like it's the sable in ww if
Speaker 1: he exactly, Yeah, it's the sable WWF in the nineties.
Speaker 1: You know, the men come to see the men come
Speaker 1: to see me, and the woman want to be me.
Speaker 1: That's the thing Tom Holland has, you know, like a yeah,
Speaker 1: because like she was just like a like search sable
Speaker 1: WWF nineties.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't hear you say sable, so I thought
Speaker 2: you were talking about Tom Holland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that at Press. He's really egotistical. Now
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be with me, but and then
Speaker 1: so and then the two other things. So that Mike's
Speaker 1: bring up, which I agree. You gotta remember COVID was
Speaker 1: still happening No Way Home. So there's still people that
Speaker 1: either didn't want to go out wow or remember no
Speaker 1: I can't remember in America, but here in Canada, if
Speaker 1: you were not vaccinated, you could not see a movie.
Speaker 1: We had to present our badges to get scanned. You
Speaker 1: go in so and I know multiple people that did
Speaker 1: not see that movie right in the theaters. And then
Speaker 1: also you got to remember that movie did not have China,
Speaker 1: which Spider Man can be very big in this movie
Speaker 1: has China. So I agree with Mikesh it could have
Speaker 1: passed to it, which is not the case all the
Speaker 1: time because some movies, like nowadays, it's not like in
Speaker 1: the tens where like oh, North American movies just always
Speaker 1: killed in China. Now because they kind of have their
Speaker 1: own movies, it's a bit more hit or miss. But
Speaker 1: you look at something like Zootopia two. That's why it's
Speaker 1: the biggest MA movie all time, because they fucking love
Speaker 1: those animals, right. So I when there's some factors still
Speaker 1: at the same day, like if you would have talked
Speaker 1: to me before tracking came out, I would have said
Speaker 1: that it was gonna if it didn't beat No Way Home,
Speaker 1: it'd be like very close, like if that was one
Speaker 1: point nine, this would be like one point eight or something.
Speaker 1: If it beats Noay Home. Granted it could be like
Speaker 1: one point nine to seven, but that's like within like
Speaker 1: the two billion striking distance, And that's the question. Can't
Speaker 1: hit two billion? I don't know. And to put it
Speaker 1: in perspective, if it hits that eight hundred tracking for
Speaker 1: the global opening weekend, it beats Spider Man NOI Home
Speaker 1: that made six hundred million, Avengers in Finney Woar in
Speaker 1: Finney Ward made six hundred and forty million, and then Endgame,
Speaker 1: which is crazy, made one point two billion in one weekend,
Speaker 1: but it would make it the second biggest opening of
Speaker 1: yeah billion dollars one weekend. But that's where you want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Batman juice. You can't deny the
Speaker 1: juice of the MCU, Tom holland all this Stuffman batmant
Speaker 1: one still COVID but still made seven hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: If this movie makes fucking eight hundred million in one weekend,
Speaker 1: clears Batman in a week I don't know. And I
Speaker 1: think just in the way we're gonna talk about a
Speaker 1: bit later, but in the way that now honesty's tracking
Speaker 1: to hit a billion. I I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: I would not pizza bit anybody, but I'm feeling confident.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna cross two hundred or two hundred.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna hit to what did do Tobia
Speaker 1: finish that? Let me just check this topia, no idea
Speaker 1: that didn't hit The two movies are back, man, well
Speaker 1: some of them are. Look at Supergirl look good? So
Speaker 1: same thing, mo, yeah, same thing. So you took me
Speaker 1: at one point eight seven. So the two billion, that's
Speaker 1: like a the MCS back juice. Yeah, just like what
Speaker 1: was saying, it's the theater like that two billion? That's tough. Like,
Speaker 1: let me just search how many because they know there's
Speaker 1: what in Fidney War. Actually I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: know there's what two avatars, endgame? How many movies?
Speaker 2: Cameron, I'll ask, thank you, where do you think this
Speaker 2: is finishing at? It's pretty crazy when you are giving
Speaker 2: me some of those numbers. I feel like that really
Speaker 2: shifted my my thoughts. I always thought this would hit
Speaker 2: a billion, like, yeah, I just feel like that's where
Speaker 2: I was spidy in the popeast.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always thowt one point five to me
Speaker 1: was like, the the minimum.
Speaker 2: In my opening weekend numbers really shook me though, Like
Speaker 2: I always thought that this movie would have the legs,
Speaker 2: but like that that kind of changes things. Where the
Speaker 2: higher end of you know, close to two billion, I
Speaker 2: think that's actually pretty realistic, which is insane.
Speaker 1: To give you some more information, So obviously, the Two
Speaker 1: Avatars did it, Infinity Ward Did Do was two point
Speaker 1: oh four, h Force Awakens was two point oh seven,
Speaker 1: Titanic two point two, and then Niza two. So there's
Speaker 1: been seven movies that have hit two billion, the most
Speaker 1: recent being Avatar two. Yeah, Niza two that Ani made movie,
Speaker 1: and the most recently being Way of Water. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the questions can't beat Nisa two. Well, yeah that's two
Speaker 1: point one. That's a tough one. So I I think
Speaker 1: for now, my gut, I think it's gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say yes or within a striking distance. That's why again,
Speaker 1: that's why we're not pizza bet anybody. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even pizza bet anybody because it could be a little
Speaker 1: under you never know, because who knows. But I just
Speaker 1: I don't think the movie's gonna because I was gonna
Speaker 1: say O many people walking I wasn't a good I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gona be so bad, even if I
Speaker 1: have my grievances with it. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so bad that people be like, oh, that New
Speaker 1: Spider Man movie. No, I don't think nobody go see it.
Speaker 1: Nobody goes see it.
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it already, go yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like some like the like Brave New World or something
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So, so if you ask me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, yes, what's your final answer? Uh on too Billy?
Speaker 1: And if not, where it is?
Speaker 2: Then yeah, Like if it's not, I think it's like
Speaker 2: one point nine, Like I think it's right there. So
Speaker 2: just for the sake of the argument, I think I
Speaker 2: will join the two Billy club on that that's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I feel like that that that should be like a
Speaker 2: low percentage chance of happening. But I mean, just with
Speaker 2: all the facts that you just spat at me, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be optimistic and yeah, and side with the two
Speaker 2: Billy that'd be insane. That'd be insane, though.
Speaker 1: Like my god knowing home did one point nine though?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but that was like I.
Speaker 1: Agree, he had the buffers of that, but again also.
Speaker 2: In a bottle getting Willam to foe back you got
Speaker 2: docc But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's why I thought I would have like
Speaker 1: not done this. But again same thing didn't have China, right,
Speaker 1: COVID so those other things and again made the factor
Speaker 1: the idea of missing Spider Man has that's a big thing,
Speaker 1: right it is five years from then. So uh so, Matt,
Speaker 1: we gave you that. Maddy asked three questions final box
Speaker 1: office predictions for that and honesty, We'll talk about Austine
Speaker 1: a little bit. How surprised you were a scale one
Speaker 1: to tennessee these kind of numbers they are putting up
Speaker 1: will wait for aussy. I'm so one to ten. That's
Speaker 1: tough for surprise, I guess for me, I like, I
Speaker 1: know it sounds dumb, but I'll say I'm a ten
Speaker 1: for it passing no way home. That's why I'd say
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I would never think it would not do well,
Speaker 1: and some of these numbers, it's just like how well
Speaker 1: it's doing. But like I said, I thought one point
Speaker 1: five was always like the minimum for brand New Day,
Speaker 1: so I would have thought it would never be No
Speaker 1: Way Home. So on that scale, on a ten, I'm
Speaker 1: very surprised that it could. And again, these are the projections, right,
Speaker 1: but I'm surprised that it's even in the conversation of
Speaker 1: beating No Way Home. If you were telling hey, it's
Speaker 1: gonna fish like a hundred million areay ago, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: movie's really good. It's summer, kids are seeing it, good
Speaker 1: word of mouth. But if you're gonna tell me it's
Speaker 1: gonna match or beat it, I would have, like I
Speaker 1: said two months ago, I would take that pizza bet
Speaker 1: in a second, I would have been out of pizza.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm right there with you on that one.
Speaker 2: I think the No Way Home comparison, I just never
Speaker 2: thought it could it could match that for me. The
Speaker 2: biggest one though, is that opening weekend number prediction. That's
Speaker 2: that's so high, So clearly people are frothing at the
Speaker 2: mouth to get back end of the movie.
Speaker 3: For Spider Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just with how it was left with No Way Home,
Speaker 2: with everyone kind of forgetting who he was, and just
Speaker 2: it seems like we're really shifting the era of the character.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's it too. Maybe like we tell those
Speaker 1: all the time. Mail John, It's like I've thought back
Speaker 1: to that twist. I go, you know what, this might
Speaker 1: be dumb. We'll see how it gets played up and
Speaker 1: when you look at all the particulars and like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they just sell photos of them like it doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work. But the GA doesn't think that way. Wow,
Speaker 1: I forgot spiders, true and they moved on. So maybe
Speaker 1: for five years they've just been wondering what's that gonna be?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Right, as like that plot line, So maybe people just
Speaker 1: dug that. You know, they dig it, they dig it
Speaker 1: all right, let's take are Oh wait a second note, sorry,
Speaker 1: Manny has one more? Oh fucking a. I close the
Speaker 1: tabbing and I got it here, come on here, Uh okay,
Speaker 1: what percentage would you give? Uh? What percentage would you
Speaker 1: give for the chance one of them tops domes day
Speaker 1: at the Avengers Review slash wordmouth disappoint So he was
Speaker 1: some of the most spighting Odyssey. I don't think Ausie
Speaker 1: because I think aussy. If it's tracking, it hit a billion,
Speaker 1: which is really good because it's seven hundred this weekend
Speaker 1: coming up. That's his third weekend. I still think it's
Speaker 1: gonna finish it like a one point one one point two.
Speaker 1: I know I'm bolish on this more than a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I think for me in the same thing
Speaker 1: where I think Avengers is hitting one point five. To me,
Speaker 1: Avenger both the first one did one point five, and
Speaker 1: then the other one did like one point three to nine,
Speaker 1: So one point four. That's what I'm kind of in
Speaker 1: the ballpark. I'm not saying these will be as good
Speaker 1: as those, but I think the hype same thing of
Speaker 1: missing the Avengers movies. You got Evans, you got Danny,
Speaker 1: got Hempsworth, you got other surprises that will happen. I
Speaker 1: think that's just kind of the buffer, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think Age of Ultron for the general audience, Like how
Speaker 1: many people are saying this their favorite Marvel movie? Probably
Speaker 1: not many, right, but it was just the idea of
Speaker 1: all the Avengers are back together. I want to see them.
Speaker 1: That's still made one point four billion dollars. This is
Speaker 1: like the Avengers the X Men like a bunch. So
Speaker 1: I think it's one point five. So I still think
Speaker 1: Doomsday beats aussy. These spidy numbers definitely make me question
Speaker 1: because I would have said, I don't know about Doomsday
Speaker 1: being the two billion, right, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we could be back here in November and September and
Speaker 1: the trackings just as high. But that's the difference for me.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me because I still think the name
Speaker 1: Avengers and all those stars. Again, you talk about the
Speaker 1: no way home buffers, Avengers, Doomsday's like nothing but buffers,
Speaker 1: you know, like the whole X Men being back, Like
Speaker 1: that's a that's twenty years worth of buffers, right. So
Speaker 1: I think if it disappoints, then definitely Spidey will beat it.
Speaker 1: I think if I've always said this, I think if
Speaker 1: it can be like a seven out of ten and
Speaker 1: have those surprises, it could it could climb to that
Speaker 1: two billion, because what Infinity War did it? It's in
Speaker 1: the Christmas But yeah, Spidey and again we got to
Speaker 1: see the legs, right. Maybe Spidey's very front load in
Speaker 1: the first two weeks. I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: it's just gonna keep running game in August. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't know until we get those full Spider Man numbers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, where you uh Kirkland, do you think uh
Speaker 1: Austy got a chance to beat it. Spider got a
Speaker 1: chance to beat it. If the Avengers is kind of.
Speaker 2: Like a like a meh, you know no, I think
Speaker 2: obnestly would be the lowest out of all those you know,
Speaker 2: still in the billion club, which is amazing, but just
Speaker 2: not quite the same the Avengers. Like before we talked
Speaker 2: about those numbers for Brand New Day, I feel like
Speaker 2: I would have had Avengers like just stopping it, like
Speaker 2: like doubt, but like in my head, I have it
Speaker 2: at like the high end of close to two billion,
Speaker 2: just kind of how I was saying Spider Man was.
Speaker 3: So, I think they're going to.
Speaker 2: Be pretty close, like across the board. Like opening weekend,
Speaker 2: I think it'll be really close. Like like again, before
Speaker 2: we talk numbers, I would have said, yeah, Doomsday just
Speaker 2: stomps it for the opening weekend. Spidey has the legs.
Speaker 2: I still think Avengers will have legs as well, but
Speaker 2: that opening weekend will be pretty pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember different situations, but any endgames still made
Speaker 1: a billion in one weekend, right, very different situation build
Speaker 1: up by again the same way that we're sitting here
Speaker 1: being like man, Spiderman is really big. We could be
Speaker 1: doing the same thing in November of like fun, like
Speaker 1: look at the GHO because I think we talk about
Speaker 1: this all the time. Yeah yeah, yeah, two billion opening weekend,
Speaker 1: but like we talk about us all the time. Where
Speaker 1: we have this and the general allience might just be like,
Speaker 1: I'm just really fucking stoked to see Avengers back, you know,
Speaker 1: and like that's it that they don't care about the
Speaker 1: bill up, they don't care about Danny being a villain.
Speaker 1: They don't care about oh, I don't know doctor Doom
Speaker 1: and he didn't have the same you know scenes in standouts.
Speaker 1: They might just be, man, I want to see all
Speaker 1: these people I like, and here we go.
Speaker 3: You know totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So remind me, like, is this this shouldn't really
Speaker 2: lead into Doomsday.
Speaker 1: I think you'll get a post credit that like has
Speaker 1: like a minor connection, but I don't think the movie
Speaker 1: itself is gonna have much. They've not said that, But.
Speaker 2: I'm not really expecting Spidey to be anywhere near Doomsday.
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned, this is not this one Secret Wars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I think there's another Spidey it's gonna be
Speaker 1: in Doomsday, But.
Speaker 2: I'd be the Toby interested on like a link though,
Speaker 2: like from this movie that leads into doomsday, like maybe
Speaker 2: not Spider himself, but some other Easter Egg linkage that could.
Speaker 1: Be kills them. Credit everyone Expirement movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah you thought you were getting a Phoenix saga?
Speaker 3: Non my MCU could.
Speaker 1: You imagine that? She's like, yeah, I just uh, I
Speaker 1: saw it. Krasinski did Multiverse of Madness, and I want
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. Right, come on, play a
Speaker 1: character and they kill me off and that's it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd be so pissed if don't go out a point
Speaker 1: for that. Like granted she's still in the movie, but
Speaker 1: she was just Jean Gray once and never again, big man.
Speaker 1: But I think what it was did get a point.
Speaker 1: I think he got a point for Krasinski that way, right,
Speaker 1: because he had Krisinsky for a while and he got
Speaker 1: what he needed, right. Yeah, Yeah, there you go. So
Speaker 1: all right, we'll think of that break and we'll be
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