Speaker 1: Are live. Hello guys, welcome back on this wonderful Thursday evening.
Speaker 1: We're excited to be joined by our good friend Frank Rogala,
Speaker 1: who has just released an amazing book that really encapsulates
Speaker 1: everything great Awakening Disclosure related. It's pretty profound and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to dive into that. Before we get into
Speaker 1: all that, Frank is also hosting a conference in Michigan, Macinaw,
Speaker 1: Michigan in a month, in a few weeks? How many
Speaker 1: How far away are we from the conference? Frank?
Speaker 2: Just like three weeks away. It's gonna be right end
Speaker 2: of the month.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. Okay, So let me share my screen here
Speaker 1: and we'll share this flyer really quick and then we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that just for a second before we dive
Speaker 1: into everything and then oops, where we go? Okay, So
Speaker 1: Disclosure in Macinaw August thirty first through September two in
Speaker 1: Macinaw Mill Creek, a Macinaw City, Michigan, and it has
Speaker 1: a great lineup of speakers. Scott Walter, Emery Smith, JP,
Speaker 1: Trevor Grassie, Trevor Hawk, Aaron is going to be presenting there. Drego,
Speaker 1: red Isa, Frank himself, Mark Russell, our friend Nicki and
Speaker 1: the Jones, Anthony mikel And it looks amazing. It's from
Speaker 1: what I understand, it's a beautiful property. Is going to
Speaker 1: be camping, bonfires, SkyWatch, a number of things. So if
Speaker 1: you are interested, go to mortalsof earth dot com and
Speaker 1: you can purchase a ticket there if you're in the area.
Speaker 1: I feel like you, if you feel like you want
Speaker 1: to make the trip out there to mckinaw at the
Speaker 1: end of the month, I would highly recommend that. And
Speaker 1: if you can't make it in person, they do have
Speaker 1: virtual passes live stream passes available on the website as
Speaker 1: well mortalsof earth dot com, So definitely go and check
Speaker 1: that out if you are in the area or if
Speaker 1: you feel like in a livestream past, I highly recommend that.
Speaker 2: And uh yeh yep. I went to mention that a
Speaker 2: couple couple of the uh I haven't even talked to
Speaker 2: Aaron yet about what what he's bringing bed like I
Speaker 2: got all my all these guys are bringing like stuff
Speaker 2: that has not come out yet. Scott Walter's got new
Speaker 2: stuff in this handwriting of Jesus that uh he's been
Speaker 2: working on. And as he leaves here, he's going to another.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could talk about that, but
Speaker 2: he's getting more information on this. They spent like a
Speaker 2: bunch of these dudes who locked themselves in the hotel
Speaker 2: room because all their stuff is encoded, right, and they
Speaker 2: had to decode it. And you know it's basically, yes,
Speaker 2: you were talking about how he's half human and half
Speaker 2: not human hybrid.
Speaker 3: Really, yes, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: And then he's also recovering other templar documents talking about
Speaker 2: non humans, so uh so he's bringing that and then
Speaker 2: uh we're going to be bringing a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: We had the dig that you're run with us. I
Speaker 2: went back two more times and some because my dowsing
Speaker 2: rods were going, you know, and there's like in a okay,
Speaker 2: I like to talk about the Michael Hadge's skull, you know,
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety they find it. They see a hole and
Speaker 2: there's something shiny and they send a little girl down
Speaker 2: there with the snakes and the scorpions and this lighters
Speaker 2: to go pull this thing out. And it's been famous.
Speaker 2: It goes all over the world. Tyler. We just saw
Speaker 2: it in Sedona. You know, it's been traveling all over
Speaker 2: and we found five crystal skulls in there, and then
Speaker 2: none of them look human. You know, either the eyes
Speaker 2: are big or they're like this big and they're like
Speaker 2: eighty pounds. You know. One has a cracked on the middle.
Speaker 2: It is full of amethysts inside of it. There's two
Speaker 2: things there that one's a vase with a skull on
Speaker 2: it in the back of it. Has I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: it's cracked, No, it's got They picked this because they
Speaker 2: had an amethyst growing out of the crack of it,
Speaker 2: and the oddest assortment of things. And energetically, I'm a
Speaker 2: big dowser pendulum guy, right, and it looks to me
Speaker 2: like they were making little batteries of energy because these
Speaker 2: skulls were you could feel like there was one that
Speaker 2: Yas has got custody of. She says, she's sharing it
Speaker 2: with me. She's very sweet. Has a cone head and
Speaker 2: it's a rose quartz. It's this beautiful kind of rose color.
Speaker 2: And you're in this thing like this, like Trevor Grassy
Speaker 2: is like a he can get way in there. So
Speaker 2: we sent Trevor and you know, and yea, because they're
Speaker 2: tiny and as they're pulling this out, they're really heavy, right,
Speaker 2: because they're full on crystal. They're pulling it out. Everybody's
Speaker 2: like a fireman bucket brigade pulling this out. And I
Speaker 2: was the guy getting them in the sunlight for the
Speaker 2: first time. And how many thousand years every single person
Speaker 2: that got that when it was like it was like
Speaker 2: a baby. It was like, oh right. And then there
Speaker 2: was another one there. There's probably the most valuable skull.
Speaker 2: It was like a jade or jade height and it
Speaker 2: was because that's almost as hard as a diamond. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize it's super ridiculously hard to carve. And my
Speaker 2: penduluma no no, no. But and there was two calm
Speaker 2: twins skulls that were really long, like long like this,
Speaker 2: they're coming to Macana. They were next to each other.
Speaker 2: Behind them was the one with a cone head, and
Speaker 2: then on the side was this green jadaite one. And
Speaker 2: I think it was like a battery of energy. It
Speaker 2: was a way. And I think I've seen more than
Speaker 2: one person that they get the wrong artifact and they
Speaker 2: lose their freaking mind, you know, they just get I
Speaker 2: think that you've got to be really careful with these.
Speaker 2: I just had a person I have a remote viewer
Speaker 2: that works with Tony Rodriguez. It's in Australia, Vicky, and
Speaker 2: she's just deadly, like, okay, you Aaron, you know that
Speaker 2: the first cave where the head was coming out of
Speaker 2: the wall that you know they're not human, the not
Speaker 2: animal head. Okay, there's a tree there. And so so
Speaker 2: the one thing I didn't understand about remote viewers is
Speaker 2: I would just give me an alpha numeric code. And
Speaker 2: I was sitting with Sean Bond and Issa and I
Speaker 2: think Trevor, and I said, okay, I will I need
Speaker 2: some help. So I just wrote four digits or five
Speaker 2: digits down and a couple letters. I said, okay, just this,
Speaker 2: imprint this with this location, and then I sent it
Speaker 2: to her. Right, I get back these drawings. She drives
Speaker 2: like the complete outline of the cave and at the
Speaker 2: tree with the there's a vine on the tree, the
Speaker 2: only tree there. And I had a vine because I
Speaker 2: had to move to put the camera on it. Right,
Speaker 2: and then she's going, okay, and there's an alien body
Speaker 2: over here, which we hadn't gotten to yet because it
Speaker 2: was so much digging. But anyway, so this woman had said,
Speaker 2: like people that have been mk ultrad, you know where
Speaker 2: there's seventy percent an amazing person, there's thirty percent that
Speaker 2: they don't know what they can be controlled on. She said,
Speaker 2: it's really dangerous to get them around. Some of these
Speaker 2: are to facts, and I've been really careful to like
Speaker 2: a lot of the ones from Tula. You find them
Speaker 2: in Tula. I get in a plane fly two hours
Speaker 2: north and I get to I will call it antaste
Speaker 2: And you get up to a whales o ahles like
Speaker 2: I never can't say it, you know, white gringo here
Speaker 2: and go out with my dowsing rods in the middle
Speaker 2: of the hot sun, you know, and go, yeah, this
Speaker 2: really picky bush with the big thorns on it. It
Speaker 2: says it's underneath here, and so we dig it and
Speaker 2: sure enough, right, I think there are millions of these
Speaker 2: out there. And and I always say, like, you know, Aaron,
Speaker 2: we had like we had people with us, and we
Speaker 2: had people taking care of us. But I would not
Speaker 2: just go there. When I got up to AHOs oh
Speaker 2: Je what you say it, there was dudes wearing body
Speaker 2: armor with machine guns on four wheelers going around and
Speaker 2: like so I was hiding the back of the locals
Speaker 2: vehicles because yeah.
Speaker 1: Well Frank before we keep going on this, because you
Speaker 1: just jumped in with almost zero context. Nobody really knows
Speaker 1: what you're talking about here, so sorry, Yes, sir, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to primarily focus on the book. Those artifacts
Speaker 1: are interesting. I have questions about the validity of them,
Speaker 1: even though they do they are being dug up. We
Speaker 1: have to ask questions, and I definitely think there's something
Speaker 1: to it. But I want to move on to your
Speaker 1: book and some of the amazing stuff that you've covered,
Speaker 1: and the I retitled I was calling this episode Cracking
Speaker 1: Open Reality right before, originally named after your book, and
Speaker 1: then I changed it to Architects of Illusion based on
Speaker 1: one of the chapters of your book, the Unseen Script,
Speaker 1: And I think that is that really built that paints
Speaker 1: the entire picture of what's happening right now, the Architects
Speaker 1: of Illusions. So maybe you could rewind a little bit
Speaker 1: and kind of introduce yourself and let our audience know
Speaker 1: even who you are and how you found your way
Speaker 1: into this material that led you to write the book,
Speaker 1: and then we can get into kind of the meat
Speaker 1: of the book and what you wrote there, because it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and thank you, and I do need being I
Speaker 2: need need to be disciplined. I'm keeping a task. So
Speaker 2: when I was ten years old, my brother and I
Speaker 2: were out in a remote area and in broad daylight,
Speaker 2: this is nineteen sixty seven, long time ago, a ship
Speaker 2: just appeared in broad daylight, only about one hundred feet away,
Speaker 2: and it was the size of a football field. No sound,
Speaker 2: no light, no, and it was brighter than the sun.
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not wearing glasses to be cool. I'm light,
Speaker 2: I'm extremely sensitive. But it didn't bother my eyes. And
Speaker 2: since then I've learned that that's a characteristic of plasma light. Anyway,
Speaker 2: And then it vanished and there was no it didn't
Speaker 2: go anywhere. It was like almost somebody turned us off
Speaker 2: and then turned us back on. Pretty Much from that
Speaker 2: moment on, I kind of knew that the world, I
Speaker 2: mean a ten year old kid, I just knew that
Speaker 2: the world wasn't what it was we were being told.
Speaker 2: So if you were my teacher, my priest, my president,
Speaker 2: and you weren't telling me what this was, I didn't
Speaker 2: trust you. So from that age on, I was just
Speaker 2: looking at everything from a lens of like what's really
Speaker 2: going on? And it didn't it was only in the
Speaker 2: last five or six years I started traveling to these
Speaker 2: megalithic sites. And it started with Nasim Harmine, who I
Speaker 2: had no idea who he was. I sat down next
Speaker 2: to him on a plane and he turned to me
Speaker 2: and said, you know, who are you? And or you
Speaker 2: know whatever? I have to who are you?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And then we kind of like started downloading each other
Speaker 2: and I somehow I was with a group of people
Speaker 2: that would have murdered me for that seat. I didn't
Speaker 2: even know that.
Speaker 4: Uh, I was going to say, it's quite the individual
Speaker 4: that just randomly sit next to you on a plane.
Speaker 2: There's like about there's a bunch of these synchronous kind
Speaker 2: of things that have happened. One I'll probably get into
Speaker 2: later I had to do with when we got to
Speaker 2: paidris Negris with Trevor when we were looking for a
Speaker 2: hall of records. Something that happened there about the sonote
Speaker 2: that was weird. There's just been some really strange things
Speaker 2: like this. Anyway, So he was giving his when you go,
Speaker 2: when you hang with him, you got it sign like
Speaker 2: a bulletproof NDA. It's like, you know, it almost as
Speaker 2: bad as like the military, right and He basically was
Speaker 2: like downloading physics and it was not the physics that
Speaker 2: I had learned, right, but it all made really sense.
Speaker 2: It's made sense to me. And then when I saw
Speaker 2: the math of calculations and in his work, and I
Speaker 2: realized just because he hadn't gone to school and had
Speaker 2: letters behind his name, he was completely ignored. And this
Speaker 2: is a guy who on his own figured out the
Speaker 2: mass of a protein was a proton was wrong, he
Speaker 2: got the correct one, and then a year later it
Speaker 2: was confirmed by science still today not taken seriously. Because
Speaker 2: of that, I was like, okay, what's up with this?
Speaker 2: And that got me into this whole branch of like autodidacts.
Speaker 2: You know, people that like they're the big disruptors and civilization.
Speaker 2: They're the ones that haven't been into the system, but
Speaker 2: they've got their own interest, in their own their own
Speaker 2: uh passion to find out what's really going on. And
Speaker 2: pretty much every big breakthrough has been an autodidact. I mean,
Speaker 2: occasionally you get somebody that's in the structure, but it's
Speaker 2: almost like once they get into the academic structure, they're
Speaker 2: so busy memorizing and it is a hypnotism or something.
Speaker 4: That happens you're doctrinated, and yeah, you're you're almost trapped,
Speaker 4: and you're almost completely trapped at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then if you don't stick to this,
Speaker 2: this fragile narrative, it's threatening to the system. And then
Speaker 2: I started learning about some of the ways that you're penalized.
Speaker 2: And as the further back I went, you know, you
Speaker 2: get all the way back to the beginning of civilization
Speaker 2: and it goes back to there. And it made sense
Speaker 2: because you know, if you're a warlord or a king
Speaker 2: or a pope or whatever, it makes people a lot
Speaker 2: more easy to deal with if they're thinking along this
Speaker 2: straight line, right, And it has gotten us to where
Speaker 2: we're at today, which you know, it's starting to break down.
Speaker 2: We've had enough repression of enough scientists, physicist inventions, energy
Speaker 2: devices that we're at a breaking point.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: It was again, I hit it often, this seem so
Speaker 2: I ended up with him on another trip a couple
Speaker 2: of years later in Greece, and I was standing next
Speaker 2: to him, and I think, like the lightning bolt that
Speaker 2: was supposed to hit him hit me, because I was like,
Speaker 2: immediately I saw this new knowledge structure, and I thought
Speaker 2: was this a good idea? Is this just so I see?
Speaker 2: What do you think? And I started describing to him
Speaker 2: what I saw in my mind, and he just turned
Speaker 2: me and went, oh, that's a good idea, which I
Speaker 2: which for him is a big you know, he doesn't
Speaker 2: do that right, right, And then yeah. So then on
Speaker 2: the way home, William Brown, the biophysicist that works with him,
Speaker 2: the guy's almost like too smart to talk human, you know,
Speaker 2: And he had a bunch of papers he had written
Speaker 2: that were I thought were foundational and incredible that nobody's
Speaker 2: talking about. And part of it was he okay, okay,
Speaker 2: he had written he had discovered something that was so
Speaker 2: threatening to the entire system that if he had published it,
Speaker 2: it probably would have been the end of everything for him, right,
Speaker 2: and so, but he's so brilliant. These five other papers
Speaker 2: were amazing too. So I went and I said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna explain your five papers the way I would
Speaker 2: explain it to a seventh grader, and I want you
Speaker 2: to tell me, you know, if I'm wrong or not.
Speaker 2: And then in the course of the conversation, I again
Speaker 2: explained this knowledge structure because I got really upset with
Speaker 2: the amount of money that's gone into dark matter, that's
Speaker 2: gone into string theory. It's it's being taught. There's papers written.
Speaker 2: The head of MIT has written books and papers on
Speaker 2: dark matter. There is literally no basis are proof for
Speaker 2: either one. Even the experts on string theory get lost
Speaker 2: explaining it. It becomes over the complicated. And I will
Speaker 2: tell you I, okay, got NBA is in place. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I have seen it. Seems
Speaker 2: next two papers. One just came out and the next one.
Speaker 2: He it's beautiful when you see the way that things
Speaker 2: is supposed to be put together. Let's just say it
Speaker 2: goes back to Plato and platonic solids and the way
Speaker 2: the universe assembles. Everything's accounted for from the very fundamental
Speaker 2: product particle. You can calculate the entire mass of the universe.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're missing ninety four percent of the entire universe,
Speaker 2: and we're thinking we're gonna find something that's gonna fill
Speaker 2: it in like spackle, like you know, like measure. You
Speaker 2: walk in the door and you're three quarters, like ninety
Speaker 2: four percent of your floor is gone. You got a
Speaker 2: big basement there, and you're gonna fill it with spackle.
Speaker 2: That's what dark matter is.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Oh, this is dark matter. Let's just label it.
Speaker 3: And that's explained.
Speaker 2: We got no basis for it. We never found anything.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is. And so that's basically
Speaker 2: and that's on purpose. That's because if we really understood
Speaker 2: the basis of what physics really is, we would have
Speaker 2: gravity control, we would have over unity energy. I mean,
Speaker 2: I okay, I have to think once in a while,
Speaker 2: what I can say. So Emory Smith was working in
Speaker 2: the lab with the seam and he was the person
Speaker 2: who actually developed the initial over unity device. They went
Speaker 2: and demonstrated it and that it worked. On the way home,
Speaker 2: Emery gets in a head on car crash. Oh my,
Speaker 2: and luckily he survives that the device survived, but they
Speaker 2: like murder his dog and then they let him know that,
Speaker 2: like you either forget this or that's that's it, right, this.
Speaker 3: Is remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is like none of it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't have to explain this to you guys, right,
Speaker 2: but people people watching this don't understand that this goes
Speaker 2: all the way back to the beginning of civilization. And
Speaker 2: when I realized that it started tracing it through which
Speaker 2: in the book I do because I get into I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have had to write this book. But ancient languages
Speaker 2: made our brains work in the way that I'm patching
Speaker 2: with this knowledge structure. Right. They literally burn people at
Speaker 2: the stake to get rid of, you know, Celtic, the Celtics,
Speaker 2: it would take eighteen years to be able to really
Speaker 2: understand and articulate it. And those guys can hold the
Speaker 2: Romans off. Nobody could hold the Romans off, you know,
Speaker 2: the Romans were afraid of them. And Sanskrit, Ancient Arameic, Greek, Mayan.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to just be giving you
Speaker 2: a list, but all of these languages had components to
Speaker 2: them that are nothing like modern modern languages are flat,
Speaker 2: and they were encoded. There was nu miracle values to them,
Speaker 2: and there was somatics to them that we have little
Speaker 2: bits of them. And when we've got some somebody that
Speaker 2: could speak a bit of it, like a Mayan elder,
Speaker 2: and they put them up on a brain scanning, their
Speaker 2: brain lights up totally different than it does speaking normal language.
Speaker 2: And it's because it involves you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Even know, it seems like well, it activates the neuropathways,
Speaker 1: and probably even at a genetic level, your body's processing
Speaker 1: information differently. So you know, obviously our language is spell casting,
Speaker 1: and it was essentially dumbed down along with our genetics
Speaker 1: years ago, which is you know, I'm sure you could
Speaker 1: speak on that as well. But I do think that
Speaker 1: language also is it's more than just a language. It's
Speaker 1: very activating and I think that's how some of these
Speaker 1: ancient gateways are stargates for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: were even activated through through these language because it's more
Speaker 1: than just words. They understood energy. Like you said, there's
Speaker 1: set the sacred geometry within the frequency itself that is
Speaker 1: being spoken. So that is fascinating. And you mentioned in
Speaker 1: the book, and if you have more to tell, please
Speaker 1: go ahead, But you called them the gatekeepers of consensus,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious. I would love to have you
Speaker 1: elaborate on what you mean by that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I do want to come in and what you
Speaker 2: just said before this though, please please, Yeah, because you
Speaker 2: brought up a excuse me, a really important point about
Speaker 2: spell spelling spells right, and in the inversion of language,
Speaker 2: and I do have a bit of information on how
Speaker 2: language is inverted and even politically, we're really used to it,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Patriot Act. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: against it, you're not a patriot, right, take away all
Speaker 2: your rights, you know. But there's and what you were
Speaker 2: just saying is that's a really elevated view to understand
Speaker 2: that it's not just actually it's not just the way
Speaker 2: the brain flows and the information. But right before I
Speaker 2: went to press, I had to stop everything because they
Speaker 2: had come up with some new research on you. In
Speaker 2: the book, I talk about the Petrie dish where they
Speaker 2: put neurons in it. And neurons are basically like the
Speaker 2: wires that go between nodes of information. They're just they're wires,
Speaker 2: they're not processors, right, And you know, you could go
Speaker 2: online and see a video of these neurons that have
Speaker 2: somehow learned to play Pong, you know that old video game. Right,
Speaker 2: very simple game. They play better than I did. And
Speaker 2: the thing that was crazy, that was crazy enough because
Speaker 2: without a processor, some somehow in the field, these had
Speaker 2: learned to play this game. Okay, So the crazy thing was,
Speaker 2: right before I went depressed, they had taught it. It
Speaker 2: had learned I didn't teach anything. It had learned to
Speaker 2: play doom.
Speaker 3: Okay, I remember reading that in the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so doom. Imagine the level of complexity between pong pop,
Speaker 2: pop pop and doom where you're a through person shooter
Speaker 2: and you're calculating distances things are coming out. I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's just wires and neurons. So what Tyler just
Speaker 2: said about, Okay, imagine those neurons are in our head
Speaker 2: and I've got later on we could talk about the
Speaker 2: genetic antenna that there's so much proof of in mummies
Speaker 2: and things like that, but imagine that it's not just
Speaker 2: the knowledge in the head, it's the knowledge out there
Speaker 2: that it's pulling in. Right. And then somehow by flattening
Speaker 2: this language, you're losing access to these libraries, right, And
Speaker 2: we you know, we've got names like Akashic Records, and
Speaker 2: it always seemed like, you know, woo woo, you know,
Speaker 2: my hippie mom's crystals and the Acacak records and whatever.
Speaker 2: But the Nazis took it really seriously. I mean they
Speaker 2: were they were contacting, downloading and actually working with Okay,
Speaker 2: can I talk about this all right? Okay, So there
Speaker 2: are autistic non verbal humans, right, and they have abilities
Speaker 2: that are very controversial. I cover that in the book too,
Speaker 2: because it is there is so much disinformation on that
Speaker 2: it's just like literally attacked and they put it. The
Speaker 2: way that it works nowadays is they get so much
Speaker 2: garbage around it, like the fleepo beyond these scans, you know,
Speaker 2: like friend of mine working with him on his computers.
Speaker 2: That stuff works. I have other proofs of it, but
Speaker 2: if you look it up, there's so much garbage around
Speaker 2: it that it feeds into this, you know, even if
Speaker 2: it's not scientific. The way that AI and ranking stuff
Speaker 2: goes it, they know how to how to snuff things
Speaker 2: down right. So on a lot of these I'm not
Speaker 2: going to jump into too far, but the same we
Speaker 2: have a lost language, right. Vita Austin is working on
Speaker 2: a method where she's you know, freezing the water to
Speaker 2: get the language of this acostic or for this universal
Speaker 2: library of information. She's getting the alphabet for it, right.
Speaker 2: And it's similar to these nonverbal autistic kids that you
Speaker 2: know the telepathy tapes is talking about, where they communicate
Speaker 2: on a different level and they can pull things in
Speaker 2: and so working on getting some help from a few
Speaker 2: of them that are very enthusiastic about helping us with
Speaker 2: decoding some stuff. So anyway, all that now, let's get
Speaker 2: back to the other thing. So the gatekeeping. You think
Speaker 2: of some guy with a mustache behind there and he's plotting, right,
Speaker 2: and he's keeping everything you know under control and tamp down.
Speaker 2: But the way the systems have been put in place
Speaker 2: and the way that they they they are structured, they
Speaker 2: don't really have to do anything, you know, it keeps
Speaker 2: just even like we were talking about academia. By the
Speaker 2: time you go through the system, it's a self correcting system.
Speaker 2: Now later in the book, I get into actual proofs
Speaker 2: of consciousness changing reality. Right, this is a thing that
Speaker 2: you know, we have the book the secret that you
Speaker 2: know on a personal level, which I think is almost
Speaker 2: disinformation because it's that's not where Okay, you as a
Speaker 2: person and the way you think is really important, you know,
Speaker 2: and your field is important. But the problem is is
Speaker 2: we all have field and the mass field is being
Speaker 2: controlled by you know, Oh, we have to have a war.
Speaker 2: Oh we have to you know, climate change is human cost.
Speaker 2: Oh we don't have enough resources. Oh, and these ideas
Speaker 2: in the field will manifest in reality. And I have
Speaker 2: I didn't put this in the book because it was
Speaker 2: just a little bit over the edge, because I'm trying to,
Speaker 2: like we were talking about before we started this, that
Speaker 2: you were I considered a huge compliment, saying the book
Speaker 2: was like a big red pill. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: push it over the edge for the minormy friends that
Speaker 2: I love. Right, But Nasim again told me a method
Speaker 2: for changing the past. And I had lost a ring
Speaker 2: in the Nile and I thought, well, this is harm less.
Speaker 2: Let me just work on this, right, So I did
Speaker 2: his method, and then I kind of let it go,
Speaker 2: and I was literally with him again in Greece. I
Speaker 2: get a text message from a friend who's in Hollywood,
Speaker 2: where I had not been. He sends me a picture
Speaker 2: of my ring. He goes, this looks like something you
Speaker 2: would wear. Did you lose this at my house? I said, no,
Speaker 2: I lost that in the Nile River. Let me explain later.
Speaker 2: It's the long story, right. Somebody had slept on his couch,
Speaker 2: made a bed, got up, put it away, and then
Speaker 2: a friend was sitting there playing guitar, got up to
Speaker 2: get a glass water and we came back, or he
Speaker 2: was sitting in my ring was sitting there and anyway,
Speaker 2: so what I'm saying is that was my own little peron.
Speaker 2: When I speak about these things, I generally know more
Speaker 2: than I say. That's why I have such confidence, you know,
Speaker 2: And this is one of the things I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: consciousness effects reality and it's not attached to time, and
Speaker 2: that's just me. That's just my field doing that for
Speaker 2: something very personal. So imagine, you know, when you get
Speaker 2: into the it seems boring, but the placebo effect is
Speaker 2: freaking amazing when you look at it. It literally changes
Speaker 2: compounds and things in the body to have somebody think
Speaker 2: they're taking something that's you know, that's a sugar pill, right.
Speaker 2: The Maharishi effect, which is you know, that's kind of unexplainable.
Speaker 2: You get a thousand people meditating at a high crime
Speaker 2: rate and is ancdotal, yes, but it's repeatable, right, which
Speaker 2: is another part of the book I going to like
Speaker 2: how science has been completely corrupted by the current system.
Speaker 2: The replication crisis, which I think you guys are hip to,
Speaker 2: is like basically, everybody's writing a paper to get published.
Speaker 2: So if something's already been published and they can do
Speaker 2: a tweak on it, or they can say, well that
Speaker 2: was wrong, and they then they could get published, and
Speaker 2: nobody ever goes back and like redoes it. Right, So
Speaker 2: we end up with all this garbage science, and we're
Speaker 2: ignoring anything that's innovative or doesn't fit in there or
Speaker 2: is fresh and new.
Speaker 3: You've got a religion.
Speaker 4: It's become a religion that's gate kept and it's a
Speaker 4: closed loop. And if you don't subscribe to that religion
Speaker 4: exactly how and exactly the outcomes they want and what
Speaker 4: they already believe, you're you're done. And that's not it's
Speaker 4: the exact opposite of what the definition of science is
Speaker 4: the definition of religion. It fits perfectly because that's what
Speaker 4: it is. It's a religion that calls itself science.
Speaker 2: Right. I thought science was Anthony Fauci, that's what he said.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also Anthony Fauchi. Yeah, it's also yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: just fit over one hundred times.
Speaker 2: So so what ends up happening is is like I
Speaker 2: was just like, this is just completely suspicious. None of
Speaker 2: this is for the good of mankind. The thing happens
Speaker 2: when you travel a lot is that I mean there's
Speaker 2: a lot of really really really poor places, and over
Speaker 2: and over again, I'm in a place where somebody's got
Speaker 2: like just their last piece of I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: woman in Egypt. Go to her house and she's like
Speaker 2: sleeping on this faded out war threadbare hammock and there's
Speaker 2: chickens running on the floor, and you know, and she's
Speaker 2: giving us our last piece of bread and treating us
Speaker 2: like we're her family, right, And this is the same
Speaker 2: thing the world. Humans are amazing, they're beautiful. I mean,
Speaker 2: like you put rats, rats in a box, you put
Speaker 2: them under stress and whatever you can make them, you know,
Speaker 2: do terrible things to each other, which is basically what
Speaker 2: has been happening to us and this planet of abundance, right,
Speaker 2: And so you your mind kind of travels beyond, like
Speaker 2: what is the motivation, what is the story? Why is this?
Speaker 2: Who is this benefiting? And it becomes very dark, you know,
Speaker 2: when you when you and again I'm I'm not going
Speaker 2: to have to I'm preaching to the choir here because
Speaker 2: you guys have seen behind the scenes of what goes on.
Speaker 2: And uh, when we talk about basically we're living in
Speaker 2: a control system that is multi layered, and but it's
Speaker 2: it's it's wearing at the seams. And I think with
Speaker 2: COVID just was they all played their hand right, it's
Speaker 2: just becoming I mean I still see posts online from
Speaker 2: because I did music and film the TV for a
Speaker 2: lot of years and just some super hypnotize. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think they leave the TV on too much or
Speaker 2: whatever they're going. They're just being so mean to Anthony Fauci,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like, you know, I can't think
Speaker 2: of a bigger team.
Speaker 4: And you know, they repeat the talking points the media
Speaker 4: tells them like word for word. You can even see
Speaker 4: like it's a word for word. People will repeat the
Speaker 4: same phrases that they're told. So it's just a program
Speaker 4: being installed. And this is what so many people their
Speaker 4: whole their whole personality, and like policism is like one
Speaker 4: big installed program.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's your story, Aaron. Is what intrigues me
Speaker 2: because you are one of the people that started questioning
Speaker 2: because you were you know everybody I was.
Speaker 3: I got out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well how do you know what? You know?
Speaker 2: You know? And very few people ask that you asked
Speaker 2: that question. You know, where does this come from? Am
Speaker 2: I just following a pattern? Am I just doing what
Speaker 2: everybody else is doing? Am I just accepting something because
Speaker 2: I've been told and you started looking for your own
Speaker 2: you know, your your own answers and your own uh yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's led to you down this path of seeking truth, right.
Speaker 2: It was my big My biggest problem was when my
Speaker 2: first draft of the book, I had said the word
Speaker 2: truth two hundred and eighty seven times. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I have to go because I.
Speaker 1: Have to go make it three hundred. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: it up into three.
Speaker 2: My first editor was was a JPL scientist. He said,
Speaker 2: you know, truth is empirical. He's just like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's truth is not necessarily something you can measure, you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oka, yeah, you're right, I got I
Speaker 2: gotta fix this, you know.
Speaker 1: So so, I mean there's so much Like when I
Speaker 1: was writing notes for this episode today, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do we I was trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: we can encapsulate and over six hundred page book into
Speaker 1: one interview. You know, there's this so much, and so
Speaker 1: we can't. But one of the things that you do
Speaker 1: emphasize is by the end of the book, you'll know
Speaker 1: you won't be asking who they are. You'll be able
Speaker 1: to point at them. And I guess This is the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for a lot of people who are raking
Speaker 1: up and they're new to this every you know, we're
Speaker 1: just so used to talking about them and they But
Speaker 1: you seem to have been able to pinpoint and identify
Speaker 1: who you think these players are. And I would love
Speaker 1: to hear you break that down for not just us,
Speaker 1: but the audience and help everyone identify these players and
Speaker 1: who they are.
Speaker 2: Well. I've been greatly aided by the Epstein files, I
Speaker 2: will tell you that, because if you look at it
Speaker 2: in with open eyes and see what it really tells
Speaker 2: you about what happens and who's pulling strings, what goes on,
Speaker 2: it gets deeper and deeper. Ultimately, I didn't really go
Speaker 2: there as far as talk about the non human element
Speaker 2: that is affecting everything. And I will right now with
Speaker 2: you guys, because I'm in front of the company. But
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go in a couple weeks and talk
Speaker 2: to David Ike about this, because that dude was one
Speaker 2: of the first people to call it out, and he's
Speaker 2: taken like these guys that come out, and he survived,
Speaker 2: you know, and he's still he still lives there and
Speaker 2: he's still putting up with it, But there's okay, the
Speaker 2: very first part of the book talks about how little
Speaker 2: we see around us. And I just had a family
Speaker 2: reunion and I had a presentation. I'm trying to wake
Speaker 2: my family up, right, and so I'm showing them electro
Speaker 2: make thatic spectrum. And you can't draw a line small enough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can draw a thing across the room,
Speaker 2: and you can't draw a line small enough to show
Speaker 2: how little of what we perceive around us. So I
Speaker 2: had I was I've got a lot of metaphors of
Speaker 2: the book, because when you put these numbers up, like
Speaker 2: point zero zero three, seven point, you just can't. It
Speaker 2: goes right over. But basically, if you have a beach
Speaker 2: and it goes on for as far as you can
Speaker 2: see at a big sandy beach and you know it's a
Speaker 2: clear day, you take one grain of sand off that
Speaker 2: that's what we're perceiving of the world around us. And Okay,
Speaker 2: I was charitable. I said, basically, we have the senses
Speaker 2: we need to survive. But I also have evidence in
Speaker 2: the book we are the only creature on this earth
Speaker 2: that so far they're still testing them. Right, Every plant, frog, fish, dog, bird, whatever,
Speaker 2: might have six to twelve, genetic defects six to twelve. Okay,
Speaker 2: nobody seems to pay attention to the fact that humans
Speaker 2: have six thousand, and they keep finding more that is
Speaker 2: not that is not natural in any way we were
Speaker 2: purposely messed with along with I've got the proof that
Speaker 2: we were genetically modified, and that was something that I
Speaker 2: had to be very careful about because I know the
Speaker 2: scientists that actually found I mean, he has the spot.
Speaker 2: It's a splice, it's an actual splice. But the Max
Speaker 2: Planck Institute actually has fund the amino acid that goes
Speaker 2: along with it. And again a metaphor, the chances of
Speaker 2: that happening, it doubled our neural capacity, right, The chances
Speaker 2: of that happening naturally are you know, as if a
Speaker 2: jet engine blows up, falls to the ground, reassembles and
Speaker 2: runs better than it did in the first place, that
Speaker 2: would be you know, it's virtually impossible, right.
Speaker 1: And I assume these are these non human players that
Speaker 1: you're talking about at the top of the food chain here.
Speaker 2: So this kind of ties back also to these artifacts
Speaker 2: we're finding that we're finding a lot of proofs in
Speaker 2: these not just carbonating, not just thermaluminescence, not just ceramic magnetity,
Speaker 2: because all of those things are gonna have problems. But
Speaker 2: now we have a fourth way that's just emerged that
Speaker 2: we're if you drill into them, there's a plant based
Speaker 2: catalyst that made them there because many, many, many of
Speaker 2: them are a polymer. They look like stone, but they're not.
Speaker 2: They're a polymer aluminum silicate. And what I was, I
Speaker 2: sit up and I will argue with Ai sometimes this
Speaker 2: is my I'm kind of lonely, you know, so I
Speaker 2: justind of argue with it. And I said, Okay, I
Speaker 2: know there's a cataclysm coming, and I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that we don't have to start from scratch. What
Speaker 2: stone would be the best stone if I wanted to
Speaker 2: leave human information on it for the you know, to
Speaker 2: be recovered whenever it takes us to come back out
Speaker 2: of this, right, or would it be better if I
Speaker 2: used aluminum silicate, which is what this polymer seems to
Speaker 2: be made of, which is like sand like silica, and
Speaker 2: aluminum which has to be fired at four thy five
Speaker 2: hundred degrees by the way, in a very exact way.
Speaker 2: And AI went, oh, aluminum silicate, you know, because it's
Speaker 2: impervious to heat or cold. It doesn't allow moisture intrusion.
Speaker 2: You could raw a fine lines in it, and lichens
Speaker 2: can't grow on it. And and I think this is
Speaker 2: why there's a lot of problems with people when they
Speaker 2: see these things and they're shiny and looked like they
Speaker 2: were made yesterday, and they're beautiful and they hold there's finish.
Speaker 2: It's because it's kind of impervious to everything, and and
Speaker 2: there is like so many tiny little things, you know,
Speaker 2: written into them. So maybe the reason I mentioned that
Speaker 2: is because I've now seen quite a few thousand of these,
Speaker 2: and very few things on them look human. And there's
Speaker 2: not like they're all alien big heads. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: like ethereal beings. There's insect looking ones, there's avian looking ones,
Speaker 2: there's things that look like they're you know, there's all
Speaker 2: kinds of shapes of heads, right, and and there are
Speaker 2: commonalities between some of those. But I think prior to
Speaker 2: younger dryest, this was a very different place. And I
Speaker 2: think that there's a reason why we are not supposed
Speaker 2: to know this. Like, for instance, there was a tape
Speaker 2: that just went public a few days ago that I'd
Speaker 2: heard about for years about Herrara and Teamakers had given
Speaker 2: a private little conference for a couple of people. And
Speaker 2: let's just say it's not public. It came out of
Speaker 2: a server. It was leaked, right, and there's a lot
Speaker 2: of problems. The Egyptian government put a national security hold
Speaker 2: on this information. And when you see it, you're going
Speaker 2: why right, and there is you know, as we know,
Speaker 2: there's a material in there that's not known of the earth.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this technology is used by
Speaker 2: the British military and it's a material. It's an alloy
Speaker 2: that's not of this earth. And it's huge. It's like
Speaker 2: the size of the short end of a football field
Speaker 2: in an omega shape. Along with there are two ships
Speaker 2: in there that are full size operational ships. One is
Speaker 2: upside down. They're like over one hundred feet long. And
Speaker 2: you can see when you look at these scans that
Speaker 2: there was, uh, there was a lake. I mean you
Speaker 2: go there today, it's dry and there's a canal going
Speaker 2: through with the waters way down low, and there was
Speaker 2: a lake there. And that's one of three pyramids I've
Speaker 2: been in where the you go ouside on the water
Speaker 2: table is way down low and you go in the pyramid.
Speaker 2: It's like right up there. And Tim Akers says that
Speaker 2: he thinks that they used the pyramids as a way
Speaker 2: to bring the water up, and they would fill canals
Speaker 2: to get between seas, right, and this had this had
Speaker 2: ships around it. Something so dramatically cataclysmic happened that it
Speaker 2: just sealed it. And so not only can you see
Speaker 2: it from his scans, but some of my really talented
Speaker 2: remote viewer friends have looked at it and they said,
Speaker 2: they're not going to let you in there, like when
Speaker 2: they start seeing what's in there. It's basically been just
Speaker 2: completely sealed over. It's got everything in there from you know,
Speaker 2: the statues, the there's gold, there's and not you know,
Speaker 2: ancient advanced technology, which we also know that there's a ship,
Speaker 2: a ship the CIA is Richard Dodey talked about it,
Speaker 2: but I've got other people that know that have been
Speaker 2: under the Egypt Plateau. There's a ship there. They seem
Speaker 2: to be able to phase in underneath the ground. There's
Speaker 2: that there doesn't have to be a hole or something.
Speaker 2: This is something that JP has talked about too, is
Speaker 2: that there are these enormous arcs and they're not just
Speaker 2: he's he's pretty much named about seven locations on Earth,
Speaker 2: but he's also said there in the Moon and Mars
Speaker 2: and other places as well, and they're very, very ancient,
Speaker 2: and a lot of what he sees inside look like hieroglyphics,
Speaker 2: and he's not an expert in hieroglyphics. So it's not
Speaker 2: like I can say, you know what period and what whatever.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just I mean, he's just a
Speaker 2: soldier dude, you know, And so you get get out
Speaker 2: of him what his impressions are. So what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is there is behind everything this advanced. Okay, let me
Speaker 2: go back even let me be even more complete of
Speaker 2: an answer. So Marco Vogado is very you guys know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. He's a researcher. I went to
Speaker 2: Patris Negus with him and Trevor Grossi, and he will
Speaker 2: not let me talk about the artifacts, these artifacts. He
Speaker 2: does not want to hear about it, right, which is
Speaker 2: great because he's completely entire inside the academic system, and
Speaker 2: if we need to get a permit or dig someplace like,
Speaker 2: that's the dude that can make it happen, you know.
Speaker 2: And he's but he wrote a book called The Stages
Speaker 2: of Atlantis, which I hadn't thought of. This is something
Speaker 2: that the Egyptian priest told Plato's great uncle Solon that
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, you guys know about one cataclysm. There
Speaker 2: was a whole bunch of cataclysms, right, and so he
Speaker 2: has got enough records. He's talking about these stages of
Speaker 2: Atlantis and what happened and so like after the first cataclysm,
Speaker 2: they kind of got smart and you know started I
Speaker 2: think these are their methods of encoding information. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: between cataclysms, and he actually talks about there was a breakoff,
Speaker 2: society became very dark. They were doing genetic experiments with
Speaker 2: like humans and animals for like creepy sexual reasons, along
Speaker 2: with really dark ritual stuff, right. And on a lot
Speaker 2: of these artifacts you'll see like double helixes and DNA.
Speaker 2: I got four or five myself. There's one sitting right here. Actually,
Speaker 2: this is one of the first ones that Scott Walter
Speaker 2: and I had both wanted to get custody oven I
Speaker 2: won anyway, the my in my humble opinion, in the
Speaker 2: last cataclysm, uh that the bad guys won. The good
Speaker 2: guys are still here, are our friend Nikiyana I think
Speaker 2: she encountered one of these dimensional bubbles where some of
Speaker 2: the survivors that were the good guys are kind of
Speaker 2: held up. You know. It's kind of like, uh, I
Speaker 2: don't like using movie references because I don't watch a
Speaker 2: lot of movies, but the the recent one where you know,
Speaker 2: there's like a dimensional bubble and the society is inside
Speaker 2: of it and I can't remember it, but but it's
Speaker 2: a similar thing. And this is like way in a
Speaker 2: very remote area, she had to follow guys in loincloths,
Speaker 2: you know, through the jungle. For she didn't know she
Speaker 2: was up. She was in the middle of before she
Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen. Right, So, the the
Speaker 2: a parasite doesn't kill its host, you know, they keep
Speaker 2: enough of it alive that they can feed on it
Speaker 2: and they can reproduce and whatever. I think. What's what's
Speaker 2: coming to light now is, boy, I have to stop.
Speaker 2: I'm editing myself and I'm talking to you guys, and
Speaker 2: I realized I don't have to do that because these
Speaker 2: these non human and things, they we see so much
Speaker 2: of the electromatic spectrum I've had. Actually, NICKI just talked
Speaker 2: about this. Let me let me mention this, So Amy
Speaker 2: es Gridge is one of these scientists that disappeared. Do
Speaker 2: you know this story about what NICKI just had happened
Speaker 2: on the plane? Yeah, okay, okay, so that within twenty
Speaker 2: four hours of her telling me that story. Okay, but
Speaker 2: maybe actually we should tell the story real quickly. She was,
Speaker 2: you know, she's a flight tenant, was sleeping and she
Speaker 2: was cleaning up and she saw this woman. She said,
Speaker 2: this looks like somebody who is this woman saw her
Speaker 2: looking at her, and she in front of NICKI changed
Speaker 2: into a it's the brown cut hair. Her hair was
Speaker 2: tied into a blond hair and a bowl on the top. Right,
Speaker 2: like just shifted like this. Right. Twenty four hours before that,
Speaker 2: I had another person come and see me tell me
Speaker 2: a similar story that was much more personal and much
Speaker 2: more traumatic. Right. So these things are here. There is
Speaker 2: with the population, they're in the royal families. They're running things,
Speaker 2: and uh, they're they're feeding off of us. Not all
Speaker 2: of them are corporeal. Some of them are able to
Speaker 2: to use humans like a host. Right. The thing that
Speaker 2: and none of this isn't in my book. It's just
Speaker 2: because I'm taking you to the edge of this right.
Speaker 2: But what is in my book is that we are
Speaker 2: extremely powerful. They don't want us to know that because
Speaker 2: if they if we figure that out, they are just toast.
Speaker 2: The only the only thing that they have on us
Speaker 2: is our ignorance. The minute that we start understanding that
Speaker 2: we're directly connected to that divine spark and we manifest
Speaker 2: reality with our consciousness, they're They're done. Yeah. So I
Speaker 2: mean that goes beyond beyond the message of my book.
Speaker 2: But my book is even for I'm really happy when
Speaker 2: people that have been immersed in this kind of truth,
Speaker 2: in this information for as long as you guys have,
Speaker 2: we'll get things out of it. Because I was thinking that, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron knows this. You know, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll put it in just you know, I'll put the
Speaker 2: Mandela effect in. You know, I'll put in as a man.
Speaker 2: Think it's so you know, it is with him and
Speaker 2: all of this stuff that you know, our community and
Speaker 2: people know. I'm really heartened to like Sean Bond is
Speaker 2: going to do a show with me on Friday or Saturday,
Speaker 2: and he loved the book. And I was completely shocked
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm thinking, I'm not I'm not giving
Speaker 2: anything new, but I think maybe it was because it
Speaker 2: took me a long time to figure out how to
Speaker 2: assemble and build the case right, and then because I
Speaker 2: was building towards this trital knowledge structure, which is now
Speaker 2: patent pending. You know, I've got a ten months to
Speaker 2: make it a real thing, and so I think, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways I can do it, but
Speaker 2: I think the first thing going to do is make
Speaker 2: it an augmented reality where you can kind of walk
Speaker 2: in to this knowledge structure and then you can pick
Speaker 2: your and I can make it very simple. At first.
Speaker 2: It just have to show that it works, but ultimately
Speaker 2: it will work on any topic, so that it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily a truth machine. But what you'll see is what
Speaker 2: makes sense and what doesn't make sense. You can put
Speaker 2: something in there like COVID or September eleventh and like
Speaker 2: and see the connections and what makes sense, and it will, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll self organize and instead of being squeezed on this
Speaker 2: line and this is true, this is false, this is
Speaker 2: been debunked, this is real. You're going to see it
Speaker 2: all because everything stays up there. Because even things that
Speaker 2: we know, we all know things we were told that
Speaker 2: we're true that we now know are false and vice versa.
Speaker 2: And even in physics, the things that they call constants,
Speaker 2: like the speed of light or when water boils, those
Speaker 2: dynamically change under certain conditions. So the universe doesn't go
Speaker 2: along a straight line, you know, it's dynamic. It change
Speaker 2: is and that's the way that any model that reflects
Speaker 2: it should be. So ultimately, what this is doing is
Speaker 2: emulating the way that the human brain used to work before.
Speaker 2: Like we can't really recover those those languages, and maybe
Speaker 2: we will through people that are reading these records, you know,
Speaker 2: the the nonverbal autistic people, or maybe via Austin's research,
Speaker 2: you know, bringing it in, maybe we'll recover that. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can all.
Speaker 4: Still in the it's still in the field, So we
Speaker 4: just have to tap in. That's what they're doing. It
Speaker 4: sounds like they're tapping into the field and then pulling
Speaker 4: it in. And I do think that's going to happen
Speaker 4: more and more until we regain this information and start
Speaker 4: utilizing it again on a mask in a mass way.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look look at what's like we're talking about,
Speaker 2: Like JP, was it JP or Scott Walter one of those.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're both talking about the same thing about
Speaker 2: how No, Scott Walter was talking about the procession, you know,
Speaker 2: and how and how we're moving through these you know,
Speaker 2: these energy feels like everything is energy, money is energy,
Speaker 2: everything is energy. And so as we move into these
Speaker 2: different fields, it's almost like, I don't want to be
Speaker 2: lazy about it, but I mean, we almost don't have
Speaker 2: to do anything because it's going to reveal itself, right,
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna hurry, So let's let's let's jack it
Speaker 2: up a little bit and make it happen a little faster.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't need any more wars, We don't
Speaker 2: need any more fighting. You know, people are freaking beautiful
Speaker 2: and uh you know, we live in a beautiful place.
Speaker 2: That the thing that I I one of my editors,
Speaker 2: the JPL dude right, completely materialist physicist because I've been
Speaker 2: studying space a lot. And plus you know, when you
Speaker 2: know people like like David Adair and you and U
Speaker 2: JP and like they have JP like he's my height,
Speaker 2: but he's big guy. Like he gave me the first
Speaker 2: time he gave me a hug, I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: He's like twice my size and he's my height, right,
Speaker 2: he's a big guy, but he's got some physical problems.
Speaker 2: And all these guys are going these programs and do
Speaker 2: go into space and stuff. They develop serious stuff like
Speaker 2: you know, circulation and heart and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: David a dare too, And so.
Speaker 1: I asked him, Andrewshago saying, I mean, yeah, the list
Speaker 1: goes on and on side to cut you off, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very true to the temporal side effects. You know,
Speaker 1: you you become disoriented, and it has long term damage,
Speaker 1: does long term damage, and you know time travel hurts,
Speaker 1: as they.
Speaker 3: Say, going through stargates and portals and all this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was telling Emory, I said, I think you
Speaker 2: were going through a portal every day when you went
Speaker 2: to work, because he was describing this hallway he went down.
Speaker 2: And because these guys, they they end up very they
Speaker 2: they're in their gut, you know, they like like JP.
Speaker 2: A lot of times they'll knock him out that they'll
Speaker 2: give HM a shot, or they'll be in a room
Speaker 2: and something will happen. He'll wake up and he has
Speaker 2: to figure out where he's at and he kind of
Speaker 2: does it from his well. So my my friend, my
Speaker 2: first editor, who is just gonna you know, he wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna go there. He knows about quantum physics, but you know,
Speaker 2: like the entanglement thing just freaks him out right. Because
Speaker 2: I was talking to se him harming about this. I said,
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't really make sense that you can
Speaker 2: have something like billions of light wears away and it's entangled.
Speaker 2: And I wiggled this and that wiggles there. I said,
Speaker 2: I think everything's in the same place, and I think
Speaker 2: distance is the illusion and that you know, and that's
Speaker 2: that's the only way it makes sense. I mean, he
Speaker 2: just went he just smiled. He didn't say anything. He
Speaker 2: just smiled at me, which that's him, you know. But
Speaker 2: so I've got finally got to I mean, I've known
Speaker 2: him for fifteen years and you know, he edited my book,
Speaker 2: and he was hard. I wanted to. I wanted to
Speaker 2: face that kind of scrutiny before the Bilk book was out.
Speaker 2: I wanted to have a materialist physicist, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the guy when I came back from Mexico
Speaker 2: and I found a bunch of artifacts and he goes, well,
Speaker 2: how do you find these? You know, people I said
Speaker 2: with my dowsing rods, and he like just laughed out
Speaker 2: loud in my face, right, And I'm like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: forgive you because number one, you're a little autistic. But
Speaker 2: the number two, you know, I'm sure it seems ridiculous
Speaker 2: to you as a materialist physicist, right, But I mean
Speaker 2: I would think, like, okay, what is going on? Well,
Speaker 2: how could this happen? I mean, he'd go every time
Speaker 2: he goes, he finds a bunch of things in the
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. Right. But I said, okay, so he's
Speaker 2: an expert on not only travel to Mars, but also
Speaker 2: Mars itself, and he's the one explained to me how
Speaker 2: it's kind of impossible to go to Mars the way
Speaker 2: that Elon Musk is talking about it. And he's he
Speaker 2: calculated out like the fuel and the this and the
Speaker 2: that and all the stuff, and not only the radiation
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Right. But I said, Okay, your
Speaker 2: heart is pumping blood all the time, and that's moving
Speaker 2: through your system, but you have a lot of other fluids,
Speaker 2: like you know, your lymph lymphatic system and other things
Speaker 2: that move because your body is moving and because of
Speaker 2: a specific gravity. So I said, okay, the very first
Speaker 2: this is the very first question. I set him down
Speaker 2: and I got it on tape, but I haven't put
Speaker 2: it out yet. I said, okay, so Elon Musk is right,
Speaker 2: we get to Mars. Let's just pretend and we've got
Speaker 2: to live there. So then slowly, over the next year,
Speaker 2: we slowly and painfully die and hey, way yes, And
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, right, because until we have at
Speaker 2: least gravity control, gravity is only one component of it.
Speaker 2: Because you were actually mentioned Tyler, you know, we're talking
Speaker 2: about like residence vibration, you know, like the sun, you know,
Speaker 2: the Shulman residences and yeah, and I know that from
Speaker 2: talking to Emory and some of the other guys that
Speaker 2: have recovered these ships. When they get the if there's
Speaker 2: a body there, sometimes it'll be completely like it won't
Speaker 2: decay or whatever. Like if the ship is intact or
Speaker 2: they if they take it away the being away from it,
Speaker 2: if it's not conscious or it's it's injured or whatever,
Speaker 2: it will degrade really quickly. They've got some kind of
Speaker 2: feel that keeps it in a statious from wherever it's
Speaker 2: from or whatever. So I think we have a lot
Speaker 2: to learn. If we're going to get off this rock
Speaker 2: if we don't want to do it, you know, slowly
Speaker 2: and painful.
Speaker 3: But then, well, I think I think we're already there
Speaker 3: in a secret way. Yeah, that's the thing. I think
Speaker 3: we're I think we've.
Speaker 4: Been there for a while, the Moon and Mars and
Speaker 4: other places. But it's been kept from the masses, and
Speaker 4: it's it's so it's so deep black that you know,
Speaker 4: no one else, no one acknowledges it other than we
Speaker 4: get these like few whistleblowers or a few experiencers that
Speaker 4: somehow so through the cracks, right, and many of them
Speaker 4: even get killed afterwards.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So I think we already have all this technology to
Speaker 4: do all this stuff, which is why it's even more
Speaker 4: insane that you have Beyon Musk or all these other
Speaker 4: people saying.
Speaker 2: We're going to do it.
Speaker 3: Rockets and we're going to do it. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: we were decades ago. We're already there.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just been compartmentalizing, kept from the masses.
Speaker 4: And then all this advanced tech has been used in
Speaker 4: that way, and it's been weaponized against humanity rather than
Speaker 4: being used for the benefit of me. Well, where we're
Speaker 4: going if we're if we're going in the ascension timeline
Speaker 4: and the Awakening timeline, at some point the technology has
Speaker 4: to come out to benefit humanity and be used for
Speaker 4: the good of all. And then like, hey, guys, we
Speaker 4: already have this free energy tech. We already have the
Speaker 4: ability to live on Mars and other planets in a
Speaker 4: way that we're not going to die and you know,
Speaker 4: we're not going to have to like, oh, we got
Speaker 4: to figure it out now.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, we already have it.
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of this tech came from ets,
Speaker 4: you know, whether it was crashed et crafts or gifted
Speaker 4: in a way in ways or channeled or tesla or
Speaker 4: others that invented it, and then it was you know,
Speaker 4: squashed and hidden away.
Speaker 2: All all of it are traded for human food or whatever.
Speaker 4: Right right, t Town's and Brown, I mean, you name it.
Speaker 4: Go down the list of like people that were silenced
Speaker 4: and then they're like, oh, yeah, they they were just
Speaker 4: kind of a quack or their stuff didn't go anywhere,
Speaker 4: and then secretly they're still developing it all into you know,
Speaker 4: and this has been going on for probably over one
Speaker 4: hundred years now.
Speaker 2: So I'm smiling because because my next sentence was going
Speaker 2: to be like I'm thinking, like, Okay, I realized what
Speaker 2: I'm talking to here, because like, I've also got my
Speaker 2: friends that have told me there's more people that speak
Speaker 2: German in space than there is on Earth, right, so
Speaker 2: so they obviously have had a way to do this
Speaker 2: and do it in a way that was healthy for
Speaker 2: the human animal. It's just that right now, talking the
Speaker 2: way we are, like you said, you know, it's to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to take a rocket and we're going to
Speaker 2: live on Mars. You know.
Speaker 4: But when like, okay, but me saying that to you guys,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh yeah, But if I say this to
Speaker 4: somebody like you said, Norman, who knows nothing about any
Speaker 4: of this, they think I'm crazy or they think I'm
Speaker 4: reading crazy conspiracy theories on the Internet, and that's all
Speaker 4: I'm basing. And it's like, no, this stuff is real,
Speaker 4: and and you can you can follow the trails and
Speaker 4: look at the evidence and look at the whistleblowers and
Speaker 4: look at all the stuff that builds the case that
Speaker 4: this is real.
Speaker 3: We've had this stuff for a long time.
Speaker 4: We're in ET's already here, We're already in contact with them.
Speaker 4: We already have advanced tech. We don't need to pay
Speaker 4: to live on the planet we're born on. We can
Speaker 4: live abundantly and freely. But they're like you mentioned the
Speaker 4: control system, which I use that term too, because that's
Speaker 4: what just everyone understands what that means. It's still in
Speaker 4: place and it's still keeping this stuff from us, but
Speaker 4: that has to go away so that we can, you know,
Speaker 4: command can have all this stuff. But right now, I
Speaker 4: think we're in this transition process to figure out well,
Speaker 4: number one, they're holding on for dear life, you know,
Speaker 4: hanging on by a thread, but they're still fighting tooth
Speaker 4: nails that are in. And then number two has to
Speaker 4: come out in a safe way and the right way
Speaker 4: has things have to be done the right way. And
Speaker 4: I think we're in that phase right now, which is
Speaker 4: why it's so exciting the times we're in right now,
Speaker 4: because things are happening and we're moving along and we're
Speaker 4: we're all a part of this right. So I love
Speaker 4: your book because your book is so powerful to like
Speaker 4: wake people up to what's what's going on, to get
Speaker 4: them to join in this right and be like, WHOA,
Speaker 4: there's this whole greater thing going on. Then I've been
Speaker 4: led to believe here.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I so that's the first time I
Speaker 2: really love Red Phil think of but okay, so doctor
Speaker 2: doctor Phil. Right, we got doctor Phil. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: like it's so Donald Trump. It's like because like I
Speaker 2: because some of my friends talk with him, right, and
Speaker 2: they are consulting on making this happen and talking about
Speaker 2: how the normies can handle it and what's going to
Speaker 2: happen with you know, the this has been going on since,
Speaker 2: you know, the early days. They've they've had thought think
Speaker 2: tanks going what's going to happen to people? What are
Speaker 2: they going to say? Everything's been based on you know,
Speaker 2: they're so. I was actually just talking with Corono Malanga Italian.
Speaker 2: Are you guys familiar with him? He's not really well
Speaker 2: known in this country. When I went to the Sphinx,
Speaker 2: the press conference, the second Sphinx, and I'm in that
Speaker 2: room with a thousand people, they were there for Coroatea
Speaker 2: Malanga and nobody here knows who he is. And he did.
Speaker 2: He does that on purpose. He doesn't translate any of
Speaker 2: his books into English. He says, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be murdered, right, and just today his people sent me
Speaker 2: he has a test on what your origin where you've
Speaker 2: been messed with. It's a and I haven't even I
Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to look at it. It's the
Speaker 2: first time it's been translated into English. I got the
Speaker 2: first copy sitting right over here because I printed it
Speaker 2: out because I've got to just kind of study it,
Speaker 2: because it's the procedure you go through. These these Italians
Speaker 2: go there with it, you know, and there completely like
Speaker 2: way ahead of us as far as the control system.
Speaker 2: Who they are, what, they're parasitic. They don't give a
Speaker 2: crap about us. Like I had a really traumatic, like
Speaker 2: after that experience that I told you about at the
Speaker 2: beginning about why the book was written, I basically had
Speaker 2: it was very physically damaged by an abduction thing. And
Speaker 2: it's taken twelve surgeries until like the last couple of
Speaker 2: years for me to kind of be normal because of
Speaker 2: what happened. And this I was talking with them about it.
Speaker 2: They said, yeah, they don't care. They're psychopathic, you know.
Speaker 4: They want you to stay like that impact. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: don't want to heal you, right, that's the systems based
Speaker 4: on that. So keep you on the hamster wheel of feeding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and so there is we're kind of we
Speaker 1: we're not kind of we are all over the place
Speaker 1: right now. So yeah, there's no real direction to this episode.
Speaker 1: So I want to try and get this, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of get this back on course so we can
Speaker 1: wrap this up on a high note where we're at
Speaker 1: it over an hour already. You you know, we I
Speaker 1: asked you a while back, you know, how you're going
Speaker 1: to explain in the book how you can point out
Speaker 1: who they are? And we never really got there, so
Speaker 1: maybe we can, Yeah, we touched on it, but maybe
Speaker 1: we can go back and just just kind of hone
Speaker 1: in on like how how people can identify. Like I
Speaker 1: know you talked about the ancient world, but that's not
Speaker 1: what I was actually asking. I want to know, like
Speaker 1: right now, when people walk out their front door, how
Speaker 1: they can identify who they are and how they what
Speaker 1: can they do about that?
Speaker 2: So just to keep it really simple, if you if
Speaker 2: they're a politician, if you know their name, if you're
Speaker 2: if your god has a name, if if they're a celebrity,
Speaker 2: that's at a certain level, they don't get there unless
Speaker 2: they're in this they are they right, and they may
Speaker 2: not be making the decisions, but they are controlled by
Speaker 2: it and uh and it's and there's several ways that
Speaker 2: that it happens. One is like they physically become uh
Speaker 2: you know in ethereal being is controlling. But there's also
Speaker 2: other control methods. And there's also like overnight, like a
Speaker 2: podcaster like uh came out and said, yeah, I sold
Speaker 2: my soul, he said, he did the ceremony. The next day,
Speaker 2: there was two million dollars in his bank account. His
Speaker 2: views went up. I mean, there are so many dull
Speaker 2: boy just look at your world, right, dull boy podcasters
Speaker 2: out there with huge audiences, right, and they have beautiful
Speaker 2: studios and they bring on amazing guests because they've got
Speaker 2: big budgets, you know, and you're going, these guys are
Speaker 2: like a dumb ass. You know, it's like, what where
Speaker 2: does this come from? And I don't even have to
Speaker 2: name names. You've got probably in your head going tick
Speaker 2: tick tick tick. Right. Yeah, that's it's just the evolution
Speaker 2: of where we like you can go back thousands of years.
Speaker 2: Who's ever in the front, whoever is taking the attention,
Speaker 2: who is ever the person to follow that everything that's
Speaker 2: taking you away from you understanding that it's all about
Speaker 2: you connecting with the divine source. It's that's they okay,
Speaker 2: And and I'm talking like even sports, like my next book.
Speaker 2: I don't really want to know doing a book, but
Speaker 2: like sports is such a spell. It goes back, you
Speaker 2: go to the back, to the mayand of their ball
Speaker 2: courts are huge parts of their I mean you've got
Speaker 2: a huge, massive people, they're all involved. Their consciousness is
Speaker 2: on it. It has nothing to do with them personally sitting
Speaker 2: in that chair, but it's a way of training their
Speaker 2: consciousness to go outside of themselves. I mean, you've got
Speaker 2: massive riots that happen in cities after these these big
Speaker 2: sporting events and everything is focused on it. You've got
Speaker 2: you know, you're marketing alcohol and products, and that's one
Speaker 2: that's one angle of it, right, Anything that's that that's
Speaker 2: projecting your human consciousness outside of connecting yourself to the
Speaker 2: divine and divine spark is part of that system. So
Speaker 2: they is is a it's a very broad but it's
Speaker 2: everywhere you look, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and real quick, I want I want to say
Speaker 4: that it it's it's a hierarchy like how it works
Speaker 4: because a lot of people. There's people that only see,
Speaker 4: like you said, the surface layer of like if you
Speaker 4: know their name, they're they're way down the pyramid, right,
Speaker 4: they're the lowest level of the pyramid. And they're just
Speaker 4: a puppet. They're just a controlled puppet. They're not they're
Speaker 4: not really the ones in control at all. They're just
Speaker 4: the pawd.
Speaker 1: They're the ones just keeping line. Like they're they're keeping
Speaker 1: us in line, and.
Speaker 4: Their job is to so we we look at them
Speaker 4: and then oh they're the enemy, are They're great either way,
Speaker 4: you're still feeding into the system, right. They don't care
Speaker 4: whether you're super against them or super for if you're
Speaker 4: feeding your energy out like you outside of yourself, you're feeding.
Speaker 3: But above them, Eventually.
Speaker 4: You get to I mean you can say reptilians or negativite's,
Speaker 4: but I would say anything that's physical. You got to
Speaker 4: go above them, and then you get to the non
Speaker 4: physical entities, demons, arcons, whatever term you want to use.
Speaker 3: It all works.
Speaker 4: It describes a non physical, negatively oriented entity that is
Speaker 4: a parasite. And that's what's really at the top of
Speaker 4: the pyramid of all of that, right, and that's making
Speaker 4: sure that the rest of the pyramid stays in place
Speaker 4: and keeps manipulating and doing its job, keeps that keep
Speaker 4: the wheel running that machine, so that the masses who
Speaker 4: are actually powering everything, we're the ones powering it. Like
Speaker 4: you said before, the second we wake up, we stop
Speaker 4: powering it. It's game over, right, And that's what is and.
Speaker 1: That's what does those either astral parasites, well they are
Speaker 1: astral parasites and physical parasites and arcans whatever they aren't.
Speaker 1: Actually what they're primarily doing is working through people. So
Speaker 1: and then so those people do become the controllers, but
Speaker 1: it's something working through them through you because it's been
Speaker 1: you know, hijacked at a very young age. But anyway, uh, Frank,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on on that what Eron just said.
Speaker 2: I think that's that is the root level of everything,
Speaker 2: anything that's directing you outside of Like at the end
Speaker 2: of the book, I give some really simple, I wanted
Speaker 2: to keep it really direct exercises for kind of regaining
Speaker 2: your own, you know, sense of alignment and guidance and
Speaker 2: to to stop looking outside for should I do this?
Speaker 2: Should you know? And start to feel that that's the
Speaker 2: one thing you don't see this with Emory Smith until
Speaker 2: you hang out with him, because on TV he's sitting there,
Speaker 2: you know, being the host or whatever. But when you
Speaker 2: hang out with him and actually JP as well, they're
Speaker 2: completely in their gut, you know. And to me, that's
Speaker 2: a really good model for all of us, right, is
Speaker 2: to to to set to feel that sense. And and
Speaker 2: and they will tell me, like Jape will say, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm nothing. You should see my life man, you know.
Speaker 2: And and then Emory calls called Starling, you know, the dragonista, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, these the women in their lives are very
Speaker 2: powerful too, and kind of the protectors and kind of
Speaker 2: the you know, uh, the you know, watching the field
Speaker 2: around them. And this is what I notice about people
Speaker 2: that have had one to one contact with you know,
Speaker 2: other beings, other races, other entities that they're they're they're
Speaker 2: very very positive, even people that do negative crap. I mean,
Speaker 2: they they will not focus on the negative stuff. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like this is I'm looking
Speaker 2: at them for my teachable the teachable moments for me
Speaker 2: to watch how they deal with the we all. You know,
Speaker 2: you stub your toe, you've got somebody's being difficult, You've
Speaker 2: got somebody being nasty to you online, and uh, their
Speaker 2: way of dealing with it is you know you don't
Speaker 2: you don't feed it like like JP, because you don't
Speaker 2: throw more wood on the fire just gets bigger. Right.
Speaker 2: And then in the consciousness level, a really elevated way
Speaker 2: to think of this is like, Okay, you're creating this field.
Speaker 2: And so if you this person is being giving you
Speaker 2: problems like we would have, we would not be a
Speaker 2: piece of that divine spark out learning about itself and
Speaker 2: creating and becoming and enriching and making a beautiful experience,
Speaker 2: if everything was just boring and smooth. Right. So basically
Speaker 2: that this goes back thousands of years. It's like you
Speaker 2: you thank that person you for you forgive them, you
Speaker 2: tell them you love them, and you tell them you're
Speaker 2: sorry for making them in your consciousness. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like a four step thing. I think it is, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you,
Speaker 4: I love you.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that's the correct order, but those.
Speaker 2: Are the four yes. So if he was just talking
Speaker 2: and I was like, that is that and I said,
Speaker 2: you just gave a really elevated ancient way of handling,
Speaker 2: which is is acknowledging your own power and your own
Speaker 2: consciousness rather than putting this is the thing. It's like
Speaker 2: we've all been taught that everything is separated and it's
Speaker 2: disconnected from us, and so part of us gaining our
Speaker 2: agency back is understanding how connected we are and that
Speaker 2: we don't need that other person to tell us what
Speaker 2: we don't need to watch that we don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: it comes down to even the whole materialism. There are
Speaker 2: deserts in Chile covered with designer clothing because they can't
Speaker 2: dump them all and they have to have the new
Speaker 2: spring line come out. You know. I was in the
Speaker 2: Gypsy Museum with Mohammed Ibrahim and I said, okay, we
Speaker 2: just walked through about seven, you know, thousands of years,
Speaker 2: and the clothing and the makeup and everything is the
Speaker 2: same through that whole period. I said, Yet we got
Speaker 2: a new color this spring, and then we got a
Speaker 2: new style next fall, and then we got a new
Speaker 2: you know, and it it's a the whole materialistic kind
Speaker 2: of outside of our self thing. Cases. Well, the clothing
Speaker 2: was structural, it worked, it kept the flies off the body,
Speaker 2: it did this and some of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and there was a geometry to some of it, like
Speaker 2: those headdresses and things like that, that things that we
Speaker 2: probably don't understand yet. You know, we're we're wearing plastic,
Speaker 2: like I'm wearing plastic right now, you know. And we've
Speaker 2: got things that we are finding out that actually bleed
Speaker 2: into our systems and effect or endrocon systems. And we
Speaker 2: have disconnected ourselves so much from from our own vibration
Speaker 2: and the earth that our floors are our insulators, Our
Speaker 2: shoes are insulators, our sidewalks are insulators. You can make
Speaker 2: a sidewalk that hash you know, quarts in it, that
Speaker 2: is connected, that is grounded, Yet our concrete.
Speaker 3: Is like there, you know, there's us from the earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The unconscious architecture really, I mean, if there was any consciousness,
Speaker 1: if there was any elevating consciousness at all, their thought
Speaker 1: was put into the thought process of the engineering, then
Speaker 1: there would be something like what you just explained, quarts
Speaker 1: in the concrete. It makes sense, right, but it's all
Speaker 1: unconscious sarcing.
Speaker 4: You can almost see the consciousness level of an entire
Speaker 4: civilization just by looking looking at the structure of the
Speaker 4: look looking at how all the buildings are built. Looking
Speaker 4: at how everything's made and built, it's all dead, it's
Speaker 4: all lifeless, it's all toxic.
Speaker 1: Look at how their house is decorated. Even they founded
Speaker 1: the individual. You can see just you know.
Speaker 4: Right, cookie cutter, everything looks the same. Go down the list, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: just like this, you know, very.
Speaker 3: Low level of consciousness.
Speaker 2: So let me just mentioned in the book I go
Speaker 2: into this actually because this is a really important subject
Speaker 2: right here. One thing I noticed and all the ancient
Speaker 2: places was there was not. I mean you look at
Speaker 2: the Parthenon and you think, oh, it's like this building
Speaker 2: like this. It's not. It's yeah, pyramid. If you follow
Speaker 2: the lines that it goes like this. There are not
Speaker 2: straight lines unless they're making a standing wave like in
Speaker 2: the King's Chamber and making a resonant cavity to make
Speaker 2: a standing wave specifically, but basically, you know, you go
Speaker 2: into the valley temple, you know you got a stone
Speaker 2: that turns a corner four inches right. And it was
Speaker 2: John Anthony West. He's lived in Woodstock and there was
Speaker 2: speaker makers there, and he said that these master speaker
Speaker 2: makers would carve the wood on an angle. They wouldn't
Speaker 2: put two pieces of wood like this in the corner.
Speaker 2: They would carve it on an angle to keep for
Speaker 2: the frequencies of the sound to be more resonant and coherent. Right,
Speaker 2: So if you take and look at like anything that's
Speaker 2: mildly intact from the ancient world, it's it's curved. I
Speaker 2: was in darren Cooy, you deep under the earth, and
Speaker 2: there was a little passage in Muhammed people commure because he,
Speaker 2: like you, knows I'm a singer, right, and whenever he
Speaker 2: gets a resident thing he makes. He drags me in
Speaker 2: there and there was two footprints like carved out where
Speaker 2: your feet would go. And then so I stood there
Speaker 2: and I, oh, I know what this is. And it's
Speaker 2: completely dark. You can't see anything, but it was like
Speaker 2: a U shape and if you just went ah, you
Speaker 2: didn't feel anything. But in the other room it just
Speaker 2: rattled them. Right. So, having grown up in like since
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, I got my first recording studio. And either
Speaker 2: you've got a dead space where it's very everything it's
Speaker 2: almost muffled, you know, kind of sounding right, or they
Speaker 2: have no parallel surfaces and so you don't have any
Speaker 2: waves building up. And it's not just sound waves that
Speaker 2: are other waves, other frequencies that build up as well.
Speaker 2: Everything in our civilization is square walls, right, and so
Speaker 2: you've had the experience of being in a small room
Speaker 2: in a kitchen and just a couple of people talking
Speaker 2: and you can't even hear each other talk because it's
Speaker 2: just it gets to be. You know, it's too it's
Speaker 2: building up, it's reflecting, and it's not just the energy
Speaker 2: of the sound, it's other energies as well. This house
Speaker 2: had to be completely rebuilt. It was like Ye's Montgomery
Speaker 2: Wardhouse from one hundred years ago, and it was like
Speaker 2: in really bad shape, and it was all facing the
Speaker 2: highway because it was a motel and they wanted to
Speaker 2: see the business. Well, the lake is there. I want
Speaker 2: to see the lake. So I had a change where
Speaker 2: everything went. And plus it was kind of falling down.
Speaker 2: And so my walls they look fine like the pictures
Speaker 2: hang and everything, but that wall is actually curved like this,
Speaker 2: just a tiny bit. And then and that wall is
Speaker 2: curved a tiny bit. Now the other two walls are straight.
Speaker 2: And so I could have this house. I've got surrounds sound.
Speaker 2: I could put the lasers on the music, the subwiffer's
Speaker 2: going and have it full of people and you can
Speaker 2: hear the person talking next to you, and the music
Speaker 2: sounds great because it's not building up. And it didn't
Speaker 2: cost any more money. All it took was because I
Speaker 2: talked to my My, god, we have wood shops at
Speaker 2: the campground. You know, we've got carpenters and everything else.
Speaker 2: And I originally thought, you know, I don't build art.
Speaker 2: I'm not an architect, right, So when I was doing
Speaker 2: my recording studio, I wanted to be like the really
Speaker 2: great studios I've been in, and a lot of those
Speaker 2: are really wacky. You know. He sees all these surfaces
Speaker 2: like this, and so I drew this picture of this
Speaker 2: like really odd thing. And so one of the guys,
Speaker 2: he was an old coast guard guy, he went away
Speaker 2: and he like thought about it. He like looked up
Speaker 2: some stuff and he went, you know, you don't have
Speaker 2: to it could be square. But on the inside, we
Speaker 2: just kicked this wall out and then this will kick
Speaker 2: this wall a little bit, and then your ceiling's already
Speaker 2: like a shed roof. And he did that out there
Speaker 2: and it was amazing. I loved the studio, right, so
Speaker 2: when I had to do this house, I did the
Speaker 2: same thing and you feel it. It's not just it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not just the audio. And so I imagine every
Speaker 2: freaking building in civilization has those square walls. But you
Speaker 2: go back to the ancient world and they knew better,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Right, It's like you can see, how did they know this?
Speaker 4: Thousands of years ago? They knew all this stuff. They
Speaker 4: knew everyone was like made sacred geometry, and geometry is
Speaker 4: like that, Like it's like clearly they they already knew
Speaker 4: all this stuff. And now it's like we're rediscovering it really,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just we're remembering it really. But now
Speaker 4: it's like clearly it was lost. And you know, like
Speaker 4: you said, there was a cat It seemed to be
Speaker 4: a cataclysm or something. Something happened where we had all
Speaker 4: this knowledge. We had a very advanced civilization that was
Speaker 4: in harmony with nature, thriving in that way, and then
Speaker 4: it was lost somehow. And then it was like some
Speaker 4: kind of control system took advantage of that came in
Speaker 4: and one it needed us to keep now dumbed down,
Speaker 4: you know, And that's I think that's these entities, you know,
Speaker 4: And but now we're coming back, we're remembering we're breaking
Speaker 4: out of that. But they are scrambling and they're desperate
Speaker 4: to staying control. But there's at the same time, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, there's nothing they can do to stop it.
Speaker 4: Nothing and stuff what's coming, right, But that doesn't mean
Speaker 4: they're going to stop trying and they're not going to
Speaker 4: stop creating.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys are If you guys have started this,
Speaker 2: like if there was podcaster you get started this ten
Speaker 2: years before you, they would't have survived, you know, right.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like timing, even like divine timing. I
Speaker 4: think everything happens at the right divine divine timing for
Speaker 4: a reason. Yeah, and then the way it needs to
Speaker 4: happen and the awakening is no different, like you see,
Speaker 4: I mean, COVID is the last big thing that everyone
Speaker 4: can point to. But like in the last ten years,
Speaker 4: look how many people have woken up that Before that,
Speaker 4: you know, our audience would have been way smaller. Like
Speaker 4: you're talking to you're it's like you're scream to the
Speaker 4: wind almost right. So we're on that trajectory. But there's
Speaker 4: one more thing I wanted to talk about. The exciting
Speaker 4: stuff like the Egypt scans and the exciting stuff coming
Speaker 4: coming up in Egypt. I don't know if we I
Speaker 4: know that's the topic of itself, but if you want
Speaker 4: to just touch on that.
Speaker 2: All I can tell you is all that stuff is real. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's the flipbo BEYONDI is one of the top six
Speaker 2: people on earth to understand it. And what the problem
Speaker 2: has been is people go look it up. They're the
Speaker 2: keyboard researchers, right, And when you have something that's new
Speaker 2: and it's a completely groundbreaking protocol, you're not going to
Speaker 2: find it in a Google search, right, So they look
Speaker 2: up they go, well, saar, it can only penetrate to
Speaker 2: seven meters. True, that's not what he's doing. What he's doing,
Speaker 2: he's penetrated to seven meters, but he's reading seismic changes.
Speaker 2: So he uses filters to look at on a pixel level,
Speaker 2: like vibrations at a tiny tiny vibrations, and he can
Speaker 2: calibrate and he's been able to remove noise and do
Speaker 2: it unknown structures. It's so exact that there was a
Speaker 2: building and it had a parking structure, and they did
Speaker 2: it a year apart, and they compared it and they
Speaker 2: were able to see that one part had moved a
Speaker 2: quarter of an inch in the parking structure. Right, This
Speaker 2: is very exact. The thing is is they see these
Speaker 2: blurry pictures and they don't understand that there are slice
Speaker 2: and that there are literally thousands of these slices and
Speaker 2: then they're interpolated between them, you know, like meshing them
Speaker 2: right to get at the rest of the drawing. And
Speaker 2: it shows you when you if you look online and
Speaker 2: look at the people that have been debunking or calling
Speaker 2: it's an idiot, it shows you who are the idiots. Right.
Speaker 2: It's like people listen to these people, you know, they
Speaker 2: have thousands of followers, These are influencers, right, and it's
Speaker 2: like the information is there if you just that first
Speaker 2: press conference they did after on the cofre Pyramid, it
Speaker 2: took a month to translate everything. So when these second
Speaker 2: Sphinx scans came out, Trevor and I went over and went, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to do this immediately. We're going to translate
Speaker 2: it immediately. Did not know we were getting into There
Speaker 2: was like three hundred slides they were all in Italian
Speaker 2: that we had to do that, and then it represented
Speaker 2: Crodo Malanga's lifetime work, right, So everything we translated, we
Speaker 2: couldn't just do with ai or the normal thing because
Speaker 2: like the word sakara doesn't translate, you know when you
Speaker 2: put it through. So we and his team was very
Speaker 2: particular about getting everything done. So it took us two weeks,
Speaker 2: about two weeks to do a really good job of it,
Speaker 2: and I promised Filipo I would do it in Spanish too.
Speaker 2: I wish we're still doing because that's it's a whole
Speaker 2: nother job. But you know, you've got the plateau itself
Speaker 2: literally has an underground city underneath it, and they they that's.
Speaker 4: What these scans revealed basically, just so for anyone that
Speaker 4: doesn't know what we're talking about. So so years ago
Speaker 4: these scans happened that revealed this whole underground city, massive
Speaker 4: massive city basically underneath the Great Pyramids of Egypt. And
Speaker 4: then they were debunked by the mainstream and they tried
Speaker 4: to but it's but when you actually do, it's very real.
Speaker 3: And that's what Frank's talking about here.
Speaker 2: So what's happening now is that they've stopped work, well
Speaker 2: kind of they stopped working because in Egypt, you do
Speaker 2: it's it took years of computing, like Filipo's got two
Speaker 2: computers in his garage, just cranking away on his own time,
Speaker 2: doing his own you know, taking time from his family.
Speaker 2: And it's a trillion dollar protocol. I mean, he could
Speaker 2: be out looking for treasure, he could be out looking
Speaker 2: for minerals, and he's doing this because he's a friend
Speaker 2: of Crodo Maonga and Krodo is like, you know, wanting
Speaker 2: to expose this story, and Filipo is just for philanthropic
Speaker 2: reasons doing this. So the cure is that there are
Speaker 2: other places on the earth that are not as difficult
Speaker 2: to do this with, right, anything, like in Mexico, Guatemala,
Speaker 2: and there's amazing stuff there, Like for instance, Trevor and
Speaker 2: Marco Vagado, I got to tag along to go to
Speaker 2: Piedris Negris, which is in the middle of the jungle,
Speaker 2: and you had to take a boat and the crocodiles
Speaker 2: and there's drug gangs and it's like poisonous everything, right,
Speaker 2: and you dowsing rods. I know where it is, like
Speaker 2: I found it, like I did like seventy readings. They
Speaker 2: all pointed to the same thing, right, and I did
Speaker 2: the same thing. Like in Egypt, you cannot get a
Speaker 2: dowsing rude out they will they consider it witchcraft. I
Speaker 2: mean you can get arrested.
Speaker 3: And yeah, or meditate or do it almost anything like.
Speaker 1: That tone like sing you can if you have enough money,
Speaker 1: because that's how we do it, right, you give the
Speaker 1: guards of money.
Speaker 2: And there that was it. It was like I had
Speaker 2: to get like I got caught. I was in the
Speaker 2: anti chamber into the King's chamber and my dowsing rods
Speaker 2: were just going and and Trevor came and he thought
Speaker 2: it was hilarious. I said, do not put this on
Speaker 2: the internet, because that number one, that guard who's being
Speaker 2: a real dick that wants money now, will get fired
Speaker 2: or get in trouble. And I don't really want to
Speaker 2: do that, you know. And the other thing is is
Speaker 2: like I want to be able to come back, you
Speaker 2: know again. But I went all the way around the sphinx,
Speaker 2: like kind of the sphinx, you know. I got down
Speaker 2: inside and kept away from the guards, and like everything
Speaker 2: pointed to Bill Brown's horse stable, like I'm going, where's
Speaker 2: the hollow records hold records boom boom boom everything there
Speaker 2: right so, and we know that they've drilled holes. You
Speaker 2: could see the plugs. There was a red Bull event
Speaker 2: and they had but a tent over it, and then
Speaker 2: you know, and but you can see what's left because
Speaker 2: they know that there's a tunnel going to there, and
Speaker 2: there's a pyramid that goes underground. It's like a Nubian pyramid.
Speaker 2: It's underground pyramid and it's right under his stable, and
Speaker 2: it's we think it's okay. So in Mexico when we're
Speaker 2: digging for these artifacts, there are some people like the
Speaker 2: on the next expedition after we went with you, that
Speaker 2: could not go in the cave. They would start reacting
Speaker 2: and coughing and things. There's like there's resonant energetic things
Speaker 2: going on there. And in the ancient world they would
Speaker 2: do things to protect stuff, and it's the same thing there.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's an anti zihawas you know filter. But right,
Speaker 2: that guy, but I mean he again talk about somebody
Speaker 2: who's a poppet in place to.
Speaker 1: Talk about Yeah, example, talk about beating a dead horse man.
Speaker 1: That's that's it's hard to even listen to his results.
Speaker 3: Well he's been doing it for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean someday maybe he would read his own book,
Speaker 2: because he seems to think everything's in there. That's that's
Speaker 2: not but okay, so but he is he was, he
Speaker 2: was put through school by the Edgar Casey Institute and
Speaker 2: all he does is crap all over them now right.
Speaker 2: And they're the ones that talk about the Hall of
Speaker 2: Records being on the Sphinx. And that's also what Trevor
Speaker 2: was following as far as patris Negras. And there's a
Speaker 2: sonote there that this is this is the synchronous the
Speaker 2: thing I was talking about when I sat next to
Speaker 2: the seeing Harriman the other one. So the son there
Speaker 2: is like Grant. It's huge. It's terrifying to look at it.
Speaker 2: It's so big as this hole it goes straight down right,
Speaker 2: and it's the jungle, so stuff's growing out of it,
Speaker 2: so you can't just climb down because it's it's almost impervious,
Speaker 2: but it's not. Trevor's Lawry got figured out who's going
Speaker 2: to get us down there? So we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 2: because when I go there, I'm barefoot because I'm dowsing,
Speaker 2: you know, for stuff, and man army ants, the red ants,
Speaker 2: the poisonous snakes, the scorpions, the whatever, and I'm just
Speaker 2: having to like make peace with the jungle, like, please,
Speaker 2: just because you can't get metavact out of there. There's
Speaker 2: no way to get you out. They can't land anything.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to screw up the whole thing,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole expedition. Marco Vogado has a film
Speaker 2: coming out about it. Anyway, let me get back to
Speaker 2: cut to the chase. So I return home. I'm at Lax.
Speaker 2: I get it in an uber on the way home.
Speaker 2: Talk to the uber driver and uh, oh you been.
Speaker 2: Oh I was just in the middle of the jungle.
Speaker 2: Oh where pedris Negress. Oh I grew up there. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what how did how could you like what? I didn't
Speaker 2: see any humans anywhere, right, We're in the middle of nothing.
Speaker 2: And he goes and I told him about the Sinote.
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, yeah, I've been down the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: You know, like boys, you know, they'll do crazy shit, right,
Speaker 2: So he said, there's mammoth bones at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the snote. I it was like the Lost World. And
Speaker 2: so I mean talk about crazy. I mean on the
Speaker 2: way home from patris Negris to get into an uber
Speaker 2: driven by a guy who grew up there, who's been
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the sonote that when Trevor sees
Speaker 2: a hole like that, he's thinking Egypt and the underground.
Speaker 2: The underground stuff in Egypt is not just in geeze
Speaker 2: It it goes under a lot of the whole country. And
Speaker 2: so the problem is is that like Felipo's technology works
Speaker 2: as good there as it does in Guatemala or Australia
Speaker 2: or other places. So what probably will happen over the
Speaker 2: next couple of years is doing other places where we
Speaker 2: can actually go and show that it's working so that
Speaker 2: it embarrasses the Egyptians enough so that they you know,
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 4: Prove it in other places, whereas like they won't let
Speaker 4: you get obviously in Egypt, right, but it'll prove that, Hey,
Speaker 4: if it's proven these other places, that means the Egypt
Speaker 4: stuff was real as well.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just like a national security ban on the
Speaker 2: scans that Team Akers did for ten years. Right. He's
Speaker 2: dead now. But luckily we have that that tape that
Speaker 2: just leaked a couple of days ago. And if you
Speaker 2: see it, go halfway through, because it switches from like
Speaker 2: an SLR and the audio was not as good, and
Speaker 2: then about halfway through switches to an iPhone six and
Speaker 2: it's it's closer and anyway, it's the same thing. It's
Speaker 2: just it's twice in a row from both cameras and
Speaker 2: you can see he's he's got the projector up and
Speaker 2: he's pointing things out to it. And again his technology
Speaker 2: is also slices. And it's good to have the guy
Speaker 2: there explaining because both of the people he's explaining it
Speaker 2: to we're you know, we're an engineers, and so they're going,
Speaker 2: what's that black spot? Or what does that mean? Or
Speaker 2: what is this? And you know, he could and he
Speaker 2: was very very paradechnical, and you can yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he has a British accent and along with the
Speaker 2: first camera, the microphone was very close and uh so
Speaker 2: it was hard to hear. But on the second one,
Speaker 2: you know, it's been uh improved. And if you pay
Speaker 2: attention to that, there's so many mysteries to do with
Speaker 2: that place, you know, because number one, it's sealed in
Speaker 2: number two that that pyramids covered with mud bricks, right,
Speaker 2: and it was written about as being completely carved with
Speaker 2: amazing stuff. And I've been there and seen fragments, and
Speaker 2: the fragments you see are beautiful, like like not crudely carved,
Speaker 2: like old, old, old stuff, and it's like something really
Speaker 2: it's like Elephantine Island looks like something blue up, you know,
Speaker 2: and the little pieces you find are just stunning and amazing.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So so anyway, Tyler, you let us get completely off
Speaker 2: the subject.
Speaker 1: You're not really I mean, he asked you about the Pyramids,
Speaker 1: are scans.
Speaker 4: On all that, because that's I mean, that's I don't
Speaker 4: think a lot of people realize how huge that is, right,
Speaker 4: And then I was just teasing.
Speaker 2: I was just teasing, Tyler. You were doing a good job.
Speaker 2: I'm a i'm a i'm a I'm a tough cat
Speaker 2: to ham in because I go.
Speaker 3: Off, you just go which is amazing.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, I mean I was in Egypt a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago or no, not a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, last year, last year. Yeah, yeah, last year.
Speaker 1: It seems like a couple of years ago. Anyway, the
Speaker 1: the scans that those scans that showed the columns were
Speaker 1: going literally went viral the day we got to Egypt,
Speaker 1: like it was the craziest thing. And the entire the
Speaker 1: entire internet exploded about Egypt right like you couldn't open
Speaker 1: your phone and not see these on x, Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter YouTube. And so we're there in Egypt,
Speaker 1: We're going to the Pyramids and crickets. Not a soul
Speaker 1: even knows about it there. Nobody was talking about it.
Speaker 1: We asked our guide, he asked the people he knew,
Speaker 1: not a clue what we were talking about. And when
Speaker 1: he did finally get to somebody who might know, they said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's nonsense. You know, that's been debunked or whatever. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So the whole world the Internet. It was so interesting
Speaker 1: to see because I would have just assumed, if I
Speaker 1: was at home looking at this stuff online, that there's
Speaker 1: this whole dig site, this expedition, everybody's in Egypt trying
Speaker 1: to figure this out. But literally it was crickets. In fact,
Speaker 1: there was no one in the Giza plateau. I felt
Speaker 1: like I just walked anywhere. It was just really interesting.
Speaker 1: And to see that dichotomy of how the Internet, how
Speaker 1: something can go viral and then virtually on the site,
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing is happening and nobody even believes in it
Speaker 1: or talks about it. So that shows you the power
Speaker 1: the Internet and the power of how something could go
Speaker 1: viral and share information that would otherwise never be known,
Speaker 1: you know, but I just found that fascinating. I'm like,
Speaker 1: really like you couldn't even find somebody that knew about it.
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like they didn't have the Internet.
Speaker 2: So this is this is, this is in my book.
Speaker 2: And this is a really good example, Tyler, because you're
Speaker 2: I was on Easter Island when this happened, at which
Speaker 2: the Internet there's like a more of an idea than
Speaker 2: it is a reality, right, And so so I'm seeing like, Okay,
Speaker 2: before this, like years before this, the first time I
Speaker 2: met Trevor Grossi, we're in the he's showing me a video.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's showing me William Brown's scans GPR skins
Speaker 2: ground Penetring Raider scans that nobody knew about that because
Speaker 2: he had been hired by Zahi to lower the water table.
Speaker 2: He's a civil engineer on the Giza Plateau so they
Speaker 2: could get down on the Osiris shaft and so he's
Speaker 2: got GPR there and he's kind of just using it
Speaker 2: some places, right, and so he had some scans that
Speaker 2: nobody had seen. And then they not many people know this,
Speaker 2: but before the coffee scans came out, they had scans
Speaker 2: of the Great Pyramid and you can see them and
Speaker 2: it shows all of these chambers inside the Great Pyramid
Speaker 2: that still have not been one of them that they
Speaker 2: found since they've opened up since this I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say found, because they know it's there. Well, the scan
Speaker 2: Pyramid thing has been going on for ten years, the
Speaker 2: Muon thing, right, nothing came out. Then when the BEYONDI
Speaker 2: scans came out, they finally released it and they show
Speaker 2: you this blurry thing over the Grand Gallery beyond. He's
Speaker 2: got it like mapped perfectly. Right. This is when Christopher
Speaker 2: Dunn season goes, this is exactly what I predicted. You
Speaker 2: need to have a waveguide if it was a microwave
Speaker 2: generating you know machine. Anyway, So I got Trevor had
Speaker 2: Filipo's scan and he had William brown scans. William Brown's
Speaker 2: had been done ten or fifteen years earlier. Neither man
Speaker 2: had seen each other's work, right, Filipo's scans showed the
Speaker 2: same underground chambers that William brownd that no one had
Speaker 2: seen either, right, And he puts them over top of
Speaker 2: each other and they line up. So this is twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. Like I already knew Felipo's stuff was for real,
Speaker 2: because here we what better scientific proof do you have
Speaker 2: two different methods, two different people that don't know each other,
Speaker 2: on the same site. So now I'm on Easter Island
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm I'm in the whole world of
Speaker 2: this of this technology and stuff, and I see them
Speaker 2: just getting shit on by everybody, it's like, and just
Speaker 2: being nasty about it too. Right, Oh, this is bullshit,
Speaker 2: you know, it's flint Dibble right, and God, and then
Speaker 2: Zahi's on there. Oh. I took to my experts in
Speaker 2: this no no, no, da da, and I was I
Speaker 2: was so infuriated. You know this actually, really, I think
Speaker 2: is probably what made this book happen, because just so
Speaker 2: much of this stuff and me seeing it in front
Speaker 2: of my eyes, just the way you guys are talking
Speaker 2: about Uh, you're there, you're you're seeing it, and you're going,
Speaker 2: what's going on? Nobody's talking about this, nobody's investigating it,
Speaker 2: nobody's looking any further. And if and when you look
Speaker 2: into even if you did nothing other than look at
Speaker 2: the credentials of Filipo BEYONDI, you would like go, WHOA,
Speaker 2: this guy knows what he's talking about, right, So it's
Speaker 2: a it's a uh one of those things that I
Speaker 2: know more than I say kind of a thing because
Speaker 2: at the time, Trevor was putting William Brown in touch
Speaker 2: with Filippo BEYONDI to let him know it was a
Speaker 2: proof of their stuff, and it wasn't He wasn't being
Speaker 2: public about it. The Coffrey scans hadn't come out yet,
Speaker 2: and uh so I end up, you know, I made
Speaker 2: a coloring book for Matt Beale because you know he
Speaker 2: he uh flies Felipo BEYONDI all the way over, does
Speaker 2: a show with him, politely interviews him, and then afterwards,
Speaker 2: for no reason like like okay, let's say you we
Speaker 2: do the show and the tomorrow you guys make a
Speaker 2: statement about you know, some kind of shitty thing you
Speaker 2: say about me, right well, you could have sent to
Speaker 2: my face right now, right basically, he said, you know, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be funding you know that, right Well,
Speaker 2: he funds Zahi's you know scan pyramids that took ten
Speaker 2: years and nobody saw until Beyondes came out, and then
Speaker 2: we see a blurry chamber, right, and so then he
Speaker 2: has Zahi over, he does a nice polite interview with Zahi,
Speaker 2: who's a criminal. He like it's been busted for selling antiquities.
Speaker 2: We know he's a liar, he says this, and then
Speaker 2: he says that it's all there. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: Egyptians are really embarrassed of him, you know. And and
Speaker 2: and yet he shits all over you know, Felipo BEYONDI,
Speaker 2: who's like the dude's like Christ, you know, when you
Speaker 2: get to know him. Like Okay, So I had a
Speaker 2: private call between Trevor and I and Filipo because we're
Speaker 2: working on getting him more computing power, because that's the
Speaker 2: throttling thing right now. There's so much in the world
Speaker 2: that we can use this technology on. But it was
Speaker 2: he's got computers in his garage that he paid for it, right,
Speaker 2: And so I know from music, you know, I I
Speaker 2: by the best, most massive beast computer and I'm still
Speaker 2: in two minutes, I'm out of power, right, And so
Speaker 2: I know that it's your software, the way your software
Speaker 2: is written and how it uses you know, the threads
Speaker 2: and the memory and all that stuff support. And I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I need to know what are you using for software?
Speaker 2: And I'll sign NDAs or whatever. So I got to
Speaker 2: find out what he was using and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's this old lab software that you know, it was
Speaker 2: written how many years ago. It's using like one core.
Speaker 2: You could have it in like a hyper threading multi
Speaker 2: core system and it's going to use one core. Right.
Speaker 2: So when I saw him in Italy a couple of
Speaker 2: months ago for this second Sphinx, they had written rewritten
Speaker 2: everything from the ground up at C plus plus and
Speaker 2: now something that would take months could be done in
Speaker 2: a couple of hours, you know, because it's making it
Speaker 2: taking advantage of that. But so it's gonna it's non invasive,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna hurt anything. And uh, like, I will
Speaker 2: tell you there's a second Sphinx, you know, and all
Speaker 2: the drawings and all the message, all this stuff is
Speaker 2: up there. That's what it looks like. I was really
Speaker 2: excited because I thought that the Dynastics might not have
Speaker 2: gotten to it, and I wanted to see the differences.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, it a human head looks
Speaker 2: like it. The male head had the same Fibonacci kind
Speaker 2: of geometry as the Mona Lisa's face, which is interesting
Speaker 2: because the Italians, you know, they were like into that.
Speaker 2: They were like, oh like Michelangelo, right, and but it
Speaker 2: looks like beefy compared to the current speak sphinxes like anorexia,
Speaker 2: you know, because very it's worn and been recarved and everything.
Speaker 2: But it had the headdress and everything. But I think
Speaker 2: that the Dynastics were able to get to it, so
Speaker 2: they might have recarved it, but it still had the
Speaker 2: It still was very solid. It didn't look like it
Speaker 2: had been carved down, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, Frank, this has been very incredibly interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, we covered a lot and I just want
Speaker 1: to remind everybody to go and check out your book,
Speaker 1: Saving Civilization, Cracking Open Reality Beyond the Mainstream Veil. It's
Speaker 1: available on Amazon. In fact, I did not, and I apologize.
Speaker 1: I believe I forgot to put that link into description,
Speaker 1: but I will definitely add it.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get that in there right away. And yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on and joining us today. Yes,
Speaker 1: is there any final words anything you'd like to leave
Speaker 1: us with before we wrap this up or let people
Speaker 1: know how they can follow you.
Speaker 2: Well, you can find me in Mortals of Earth. But
Speaker 2: I really want to mention this conference that we've got
Speaker 2: coming up in macanaw. There are so many first happening
Speaker 2: where and I went to a lot of trouble to
Speaker 2: bring a lot of these artifacts from Mexico. And I've
Speaker 2: got the scientist Trevor Hawk is going to give me
Speaker 2: some some private everybody's giving really amazing good stuff at
Speaker 2: this conference, and I feel so blessed that they're not
Speaker 2: just giving their their normal presentation, you know, and they're
Speaker 2: all looking at this as being something very special, and
Speaker 2: we're we have a place for a SkyWatch that it's
Speaker 2: one of the darkest skies I've ever seen. Is like
Speaker 2: being in the middle of the desert. And we did
Speaker 2: it the other night. It was like the whole sky
Speaker 2: was like undulating with like plasma. It was crazy. So
Speaker 2: I mean, when I get you know, JP and Emery
Speaker 2: and and and people there, I'm really looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: But you know, yes, she was handwriting, Jesus handwriting. You
Speaker 2: know we're going to be seeing that. Knowing the story
Speaker 2: the Knights Templar documents about talking about extraterrestrials. This a
Speaker 2: lot of this conversation comes back to like who's running
Speaker 2: things what's going on. And this is going back to
Speaker 2: ancient documents talking about I mean actually every ancient religion,
Speaker 2: every ancient writing is talking about these beings. But you know,
Speaker 2: we think this their stories and bables. But this is
Speaker 2: one of the most important things that we can do
Speaker 2: right now, is awakened the fact that we are. We
Speaker 2: are a product of them. We've been controlled by then,
Speaker 2: we're fed on by them, but we also have our
Speaker 2: own agency, and it's time for us to take it back.
Speaker 2: So Mortals of Earth Disclosure in Macinaw. You can just
Speaker 2: search for Disclosure in Macinac. Come see me or come
Speaker 2: see it online. It's the dates.
Speaker 1: Say the dates again.
Speaker 2: August thirty, first, September first and second. It's just a
Speaker 2: couple weeks away.
Speaker 1: I'll be speaking thereon Aaron will be speaking there as well.
Speaker 1: Mortals of Earth dot com. We'll have all that information
Speaker 1: in the description. And yeah, thank you so much, Frank.
Speaker 1: This is a wealth of information. The book's incredible. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on and sharing everything that
Speaker 1: you have today.
Speaker 4: The book is amazing. Everyone get his book. It's so good. Seriously,
Speaker 4: I can't say enough good about it.
Speaker 1: I read the title, but it really should just be
Speaker 1: called the Book of Everything or the red pill Book
Speaker 1: of Everything.
Speaker 4: It's it's any book was one massive red pill in
Speaker 4: a book. It's your book. And like I say that,
Speaker 4: I mean that like it. It is the perfect red
Speaker 4: pill book in my opinion. But it covers it simultaneously
Speaker 4: covers like everything, but does it in a way that's
Speaker 4: not overwhelming, and then engages you the whole time, and
Speaker 4: its super powerful the whole time. There was like I
Speaker 4: would expect a book that big to have like long
Speaker 4: stretches of like dry boring, you know, and it is
Speaker 4: not none of that. It's like so engaging the whole
Speaker 4: time and so powerful. Yeah, so well done, man, Like
Speaker 4: it's it's so good and everyone it.
Speaker 1: Seems if if somebody is waking up and they are
Speaker 1: a reader, there would be a book to give them.
Speaker 1: And I just you know, it's not like you said,
Speaker 1: it's not overwhelming, but when you it really does showcase
Speaker 1: how overwhelming because the control and suppression has been right.
Speaker 4: But how amazing reality really is right exactly and how
Speaker 4: you know much is really going on and how connected
Speaker 4: it all is, you know, how everything is to each other.
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, go to Amazon, grab his book, Saving Civilization,
Speaker 1: Cracking open Reality, Beyond the Mainstream, Veil Frank Rogala and
Speaker 1: go check out mortals off earth dot com, grab a
Speaker 1: ticket to Disclosure and macanaw coming up here in a
Speaker 1: few weeks, and uh yeah, Aaron, we'll be speaking there
Speaker 1: hopefully we see you guys out there. I won't be there,
Speaker 1: but go out and check it out if you're in
Speaker 1: the area, and we'll go ahead and wrap this up.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much Frank for joining us this evening.
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