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dot com. Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome to

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Cougar Sports Insider representing BYU TV. We got Jerem Jordan

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on the line. Jerem, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 1: Ben Cridle, What is up?

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Speaker 2: My brother living the dream man getting into this off

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season of transfer portal talk as well as BYU hoop season.

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Speaker 3: Where have you been allocating your bandwidth?

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Speaker 1: Listen? It's always football season. It's always men's basketball season.

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And then it's am I calling men or women's volleyball,

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And right now that's men's volleyball. Two and h two

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more matches coming up this weekend, touch and metsup UC

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San Diego BYU and so it's all happening baby, the

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portal and football. This afternoon they announced the new men's

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basketball transferportal window, which is fifteen days after the national

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championship game. And so yeah, that's when you jump in.

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You don't have to jump out by the end of

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the fifteen days, but you just have to basically declare

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that you're in the portal within that fifty day windows.

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So there's always something man. People always people probably ask

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you the same question, like what do you talk about

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in the summer? There's always stuff going on. It's rare

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where we're like, I don't know, let's make something.

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Speaker 3: Up, always something to talk about.

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Speaker 2: There's always news and notes coming out of Brigham b

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Why you has acquired seven football transfers via the portal?

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Speaker 3: What else is missing? What else does be?

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Speaker 2: Why you need Many people are saying we need an

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RB two. Many people are saying we need a wide

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receiver one. Many people are saying we need a CB three.

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What are your priorities right now?

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Speaker 1: Jerem Well, given how unbelievably good the retention has been,

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I don't know that. You know, be always gonna have

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a ton of dough to go get a ton more dudes,

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because you only have so much unless you got Cody Campbell,

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you only have so much dough to spend. And you

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said the word acquired like it's a pro team, Like

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that's where we are right obviously do all He wants

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it to be transformational, not transactional, but there's a certain

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amount of transactions. I think he probably got its left

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tackling paki Fino from Washington. They added some beef almost

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a thousand pounds the other day. I thought that was great.

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Kyler Casper is a guy that we hope, you know,

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has an impact and it's exciting. You know, an experienced

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guy that from Oregon six to six, you know, hasn't

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had a ton of catches. Maybe he maybe he does here.

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Maybe that's the Alex Barcelo Carson Ran principal. You come here,

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it's a nice fit you you explode onto the scene.

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RB two is an interesting one. What will Sione Moa

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become and can he get healthy after compartment syndrome? You

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know that's that's tough. Does By. You have a ton

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of resources to go get a guy that wants to

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be RB two or three, because when you when you come,

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when you come here, if you're super good, you're staring

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at LJ going how many carries am I going to get?

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think boy needs a viable backup quarterback potentially, Uh, you know,

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hasn't really played the last two years. You know, you

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bring Eniquatson off a mission, you say, Cole Hagen, so

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you basically have room for one more guy. If you

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carry five quarterbacks like you did this year, you know

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you don't replace Chase Roberts. You're not gonna go pay

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a million bucks to a dude that's gonna come in

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and be that guy. I don't think, but I do

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Portal era or even before, if you always brought in

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a good fit and he produces. Guy, It's he is awesome,

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He's going to produce. It's that's an incredible get for Byu.

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Super excited about him. I'm wondering if they keep him

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at middle linebacker move him to the outside because as

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a pass rusher, he's crazy, crazy good. That's the best

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thing he does. And he makes a bunch of tackles too.

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wouldn't hurt if they wide receiver feels pretty loaded given

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some of the young guns they're bringing in and the

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excitement around Legend Glass and Jared Pula and and uh

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sorry on and I feel pretty good at that spot,

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and it seems like they feel pretty good at most

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of the other spots. I mean, there's not a lot

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of transfer portal major needs, and I think for the

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most part they probably filled them.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned h A y Too alongside maybe the incumbents

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competing for that why Too job. But Roger Sally of

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PAGA has entered the portal. He was offered by BYU

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out of orm Utah. He had I believe three recepter twenty.

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She started a touchdown for the Dutch this past season.

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he could be a target?

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Speaker 1: That'd be Sweeten man like, there's some good options to

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what I love about DYU right now. Bennets like, they

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don't have to go, oh crap, we need thirty dudes.

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that and it didn't work. It was five and seven.

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You know, Texas Techuin did that and it work for them.

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you have a bunch of dough. You're gonna be good.

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going to have more four stars next year than Indiana

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had this year. It's not always about kind of the

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talent out of high school or how much money you

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have to come together in a way that works and

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functions at a super high level. If you're Texas Tech

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and you crush BYU, then you get crushed by organ like.

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is maximizing its opportunity in terms of motivation, coaching system,

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culture resources continue to get better. Now you've got to

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play better in the biggest games all season, when you

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play Notre Dame and when you play Utah again and

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in a hopefully another Big Hole title game. But Boa

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doesn't have to add in tones from the portal. I

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think it's really good, like YU was very good last year,

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almost great. They're very close. You want to get into

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the playoffs. If you win the Big Hole title, that's great,

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but more importantly get into the playoff. I think they're

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real close and they're super motivated and you can see

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that from everyone that wanted to run it back, which

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Speaker 2: Speaking of running it back, Lj's back. You made the

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pitch not too long ago on why he maybe could

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be coming back his draft status as maybe a day two,

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day three guy. He had hopped onto our show as

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well prior to the bowl game and discussed a few

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of the elements that could influence him one way or

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the other. It seems like you can make just as

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much money in college football if you are maybe a

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late Day two or definitely a Day three. If you're

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a Day three guy, you could probably and you're an

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RB one in college fotball at the P four level,

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you're probably making more money at the university than you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I talked to LJ today. We record an

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interview that where tomorrow on Josports station, and we asked

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him some of those questions he spread up, like why

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did you come back? What was it hard? He said

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it was hard and he was thinking about maybe going,

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but he thought about, Hey, I might be able to

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be the all time league rusher, I might be able

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to win the Dope Walker. We might be able to

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win the Big twelve and go to the playoff. Yes,

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and of course you know you can be paid well

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and by you made sure he was paid very competitively

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because I'm sure that was a conversation and it's worth it.

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the year, you think about the sixteen teams in the league,

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he was the best offensive player. That's amazing. You deserve

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a certain amount, right and BYU got that to him,

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and he wants to be here. He wants to run

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it back. He had surgery a little earlier so he

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could be healthy and be ready to go, you know,

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by April, So it sounds like him miss Springball of course, recovering.

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He told us he got a millennium Falcon lego set

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for Christmas. He has class and nothing else to do

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right now, so he's busy doing that. He's got the

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nil A pay for that thing. That's great. Yeah. The

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research I did in reference to the tweet that you

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mentioned is unless ye're a four to four guy, you're

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probably not being drafted in the first three rounds. That's

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typically kind of what I saw from last year's draft.

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Ashton genty didn't run forty because he didn't need to.

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slowest dude that was drafted the highest was a four

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to five to seven guy out of Ioway in the

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late third round. So to me that was probably LJ

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ceiling right, like late third round. Super productive does everything well,

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he's not a four to four guy, probably a four high,

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four to five guy, and that's okay. He is he

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is an NFL running back. He's not a burner, but

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he's lacing doubles against defense if you will, all the time,

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moving the chains, success rate, power rusher inside the red zone.

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He does so many things. Well, I think he can't

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and he mentioned this too. He feels he can up

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his stock. What if he can be a mid third

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round guy, like maybe he sneaks into the second just

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be the all time landing rusher. And I don't think

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a BYU rusher has led the team in rushing all

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four years they've I think he'd be the first to

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Speaker 3: Do you think he breaks the record?

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Speaker 2: Do you think he breaks the the the all time

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total yardage record and surpasses some pretty good running backs

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on the way up to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, beat Jamal And you know, if he plays fourteen games,

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then yes, he basically played eleven and three quarters because

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he didn't play all the Portland State game because boy

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was up so much. He comes out after a quartering

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at Siowa State. You know, he doesn't play in the

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bowl game. So yeah, there were some moments. Rate wasn't

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in there all the way. But if he can assimilate

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something similar to this last year because he went over

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thirteen hundred yards, he'll be right there. Man. That'd be

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pretty cool. You think about all the great running backs

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Balley cranked it up. It used to be if you're

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the running back, you were an afterthought here. Not so

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kind of Luke stay on in this century like Luke stay,

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Curtis Brown, Jamaul Williamsil L. G. Harvey, Unga, L. J. Martin,

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like there have been some dudes, And that's pretty awesome.

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He could be. He could be the all time leading rusher.

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Is he the best running back in boy history? I mean,

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productivity of a running back. Obviously a quarter the quarterback's

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ability to throw the ball, the coordinator's ability to call

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the right place, the great blocking ability of his supporting cash.

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time in BA football history. I mean, how do you

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the top Tyler's years right there? Harvey Unga, you got

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Speaker 2: Uh? And uh and and and insert LJ into the mix.

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Speaker 3: If he's in that group.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to break it down more. But off the dome, like,

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in two thousand he was a scoring machine. He would

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just come in in the red zone and he led

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the nation in scoring for a while and that was crazy.

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and one obviously goes off and he's the Dove Walker

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really like that season. Tyler Alger's twenty one was amazing.

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mean you even go back to lache Ahey MOOLEI heys

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had some great ones. But yeah, if LJ, if LJ

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has another year like last year in the Big Twelve,

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in all four years he leaves Boing rushing and he's

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the all ten leading rusher and he's drafted let's say

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third or fourth round. I mean, there's a real argument

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that he is the best joy running back year he's

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ever had. Like now, if I'm stacking my my all

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time team and i get a first picker running back,

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Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan here on a Cougar Beat and it's brought

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Com BYU Basketball is doing great things, one of the

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We got to enjoy these moments, right, I mean, this

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could be the year that BYU gets the monkey off,

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it's back the most NCAA tournament burst without a final

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Speaker 3: I was reading up on a stat today.

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Speaker 2: If you got an an NBA draft, pick your top

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ten in offensive efficiency per Kenpom, in top twenty five

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champion in the making. That's the three facets of a

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national champion. It looks like over the last six or

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seven years, I just want to get through the final four.

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Speaker 3: Jerem. It doesn't happen this year.

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Speaker 1: And very well could you always got a starting lineup

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and a trio and a star player and players to

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do it. Did they have a bench enough to make

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a run in March? He's gonna dag have much of

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a bench, you know. Sean Farns mentioned that Wayne Salers

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mentioned that Mark Durant's mentioned that like come back in

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the CC, we weren't like, oh they go ten deep.

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What BOI had last year is super rare. It's not

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common and it's not the model that probably is gonna

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work going forward because you're just not going to be

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able to afford a dollon Hall and a foos on

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your bench. They're gonna want to go somewhere and get

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paid and have more playing time, you know. And that's

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what Dallan did at Virginia. And he starts and he's

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in the A SEC. That's great. It's like BOI put

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a lot of its resources into its Big three and

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it is absolutely working. D yu is should be a

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top ten team. I know people are upset about that

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this week. Don't worry. You win to this week, You'll

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be fine. You know, TCU at Texas Tech Utah and

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then you have this gauntlet right Arizona at Kansas in

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one week. There's gonna be opportunities. BOI should be a

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top three seed in the nca tournament. That should That

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should really help you with the seeding to get to

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the sweet sixteen. And now you're playing a massive game

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of which you will have played many in the Big twelve.

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You will be a hard and team that's been through it.

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And it's nice Ben to walk into every game going.

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Boa has the best player on the court, and that's

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Aja or Richie. Typically rob Right the third can do

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amazing things. Canard Davis knocksdown three is. kVA Cata is

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perhaps the most athletics center you always ever had. Times

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are good, man, enjoy all these games, only so many

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times to see AJ and the Marriott Center. And we

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got the Gimmer announcement of the jersey retirement against Colorado

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and Valentine's Day, which would be fun. So it's awesome, man,

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Like I think BYU very well could be in the

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final four. Like it's you have to get hot at

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the right time, you have to win, foul trouble and

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injuries and all this stuff. But it's it's sucking great

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and I'm expecting at least in a Lite eight obviously

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with love, would love the final four. And if you

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get to the Final four, come on, let's win the

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whole thing. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We discussed this about I don't know two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: I noticed you guys were discussing kind of the brig three,

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and I wanted to ask you the question, it's just

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the best trio and b y U basketball history. Is

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this better than Danny Ainge and Great Hide and Fred Roberts?

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Is this better than than Jim Or and Brandon Davies

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and and Tyler Hawes.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember. I guess who's the third Jackson Emory?

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Speaker 2: Is it truly the best trio and b YU basketball history.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's gonna guard a j Who's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Kresmere Joseph josephs will Well? What Rowan Mitzon?

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Speaker 1: Dude goats fifty one n I T title. Let's go

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n MSG. That's what That's what they and this team

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have in common.

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Speaker 2: They won Haffa Haffa would body would body up aj

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on the perimeter?

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Speaker 3: Or what about Travis Hansen?

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Speaker 2: Travis Hanson, Hafa and uh and and Ladey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a good trio.

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Speaker 1: That's Hey love Travis. That ain't happened to Dude, Hofa

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would get cooked, he'd walk over to Tucanos, he'd get

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some facial wata. No, this is the best one. This

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is the best one. Du Like you have two of

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these three guys are NBA. One of them is the

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future NBA All Star. You know, only only Danny could

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say that from before. Right, No, this is I think

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this is the best trio. Obviously they still got to

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finish the season to do something. But the way that

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what they're pacing to do and what they're doing in

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it in the Big twelve. By the way, this isn't

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the wagon much of the FCC. Yeah, and I think

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it even expands beyond basketball. We were talking about best

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trios among all sports of joy ever, like they might

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be the best ever. It's it's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of reviewing through just like you know

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the hoops teams, and you know, you wonder it's like,

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you know, what are we witnessing right now?

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Speaker 3: And are we savoring it? Jerem? Are we true really

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savoring these moments?

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Speaker 1: We need to? And I've been screaming this from before

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the season, like, enjoy this whole process. Don't rush it,

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don't push it, just take it in. If you have

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a chance to watch them in person, you know, try

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and do it. Watch every game like this is special, Cougarnation,

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this is special. And you know, boys has never been

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more talented on a basketball court. And they have the

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right coach and the right players right now to do

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something awesome. And we're just getting going in Big twelve play.

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If you're always playing TC you tonight, I'm gonna it's

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nine pm. That's so who cares. We're gonna enjoy every

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second of this because hard things happen in life, and

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you don't get it, just kind of sitting and enjoy

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certain things. Sometimes we're stressed out. This is the time

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where we can just enjoy this and it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know a squad that could maybe give these

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guys a run for their money. How about Andy Toolson,

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Jeff Chapman and Michael Smith. No, no, Michael Smith, Jeff

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Chapman and Andy Toolson.

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Speaker 1: Huh that'd be good. But again carding Ah, who's guarding

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Rob and who?

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Speaker 2: Mike?

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Speaker 3: Mike Michael smith Man, Mike, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Mike all the time in the belt.

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He ain't stand in front of ag AJ's windmill dun

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in a half court.

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Speaker 3: Michael Smith.

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Speaker 1: Michael Smith was ahead of his time. Like if Michael

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Yeah played now, he would crush it because it'd be

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a stretch for They didn't. They didn't let him kind

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of sit there and shoot threes like they would now. Also,

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Michael Smith could have been an All American volleyball player.

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Speaker 3: He was unbelievable, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen talking Brigham ball and

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uh b y U football here on your UTI ESPN

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radio network. Uh, what have you heard regarding the coaching

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vacancies for the BU football team.

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Speaker 3: We still have.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a safeties coach. It looks like everybody else's gonna

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be retained. I haven't heard anything different. You're gonna have

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to maybe shift it up a little bit, Chad, Chad

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k maybe moving over to the outside edge roll. That's

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what he's done in the past. He's coached defensive tackles,

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defensive ends. We'll see where Kelly's going to be coaching.

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Where does Justin ene go. What do you make of

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maybe some of the domino effects that we're seeing on

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the defensive side of the ball with Tomoro Warren heading

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in there to coach up the corners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the idea that bay he feels like, hey,

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we've got what we need internally. I mean, b what

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you had one of its best, if not its best

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coaching staff ever this last year with Chad Kase and

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mentioned Gary Anderson behind the scenes. Gary Anderson is behind

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the scenes, you're telling me the former DC at Utah

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Utah coach Oregan State Wisconsin is behind the scenes. That's

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how good this team is. Yeah, I'm hearing Chad k

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on the ends as well. Was hoping for Gavin Fowler

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at safeties, but since they named him the DC at

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we were staying officially, I don't know, They're just that's

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TBD still and then yeah, I wonder if Kelly Thingy

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just takes the backers and then TVD on who the

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safety coach is. But I have full confidence in the

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staff will be find fantastic and super experience and that

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they will maintain the continuity of what boy has done

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the last couple of years. I have confidence in Kelly

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Popinga and the experience that he has at b y U,

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at Virginia, at Boise State, now at b y U again,

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that it's his time to call these plays, and I

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think it's fully ready and capable. We've seen what the

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special teams have done in the last couple of years,

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and I'm excited to see the the maintenance of the

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culture and continuity. Even though you lose great coach like.

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Speaker 2: J Hill to Michigan, Well, Blau's football roster be better

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than it was this last season, Well this year be better.

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Speaker 1: It's good question because you lose Chase Carson Jack. They

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had jotta those you know, Tanner Walls, the NFL guys. Yeah,

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those those NFL guys, do you net gain? Do you

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get better? Like? Is better better next year than he

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is this year? I would, I would hope. So canel

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j equal or better what he did last year? Certainly hope?

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I think by he feels like t J. Woods has

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brought in the guys and there are four of five

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guys returning three or five, you know, three and a half.

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I think that's pretty good defensive line. You're bringing in

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a lot of the same dudes. You know, Katou Luave

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is a probably tit for tat ad for uh Jack Kelly,

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you know, Raider de Mooney. Can he approximate what kind

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of Tanner Wall did and can follow tells Thoughts will

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continue to be the Kyle Knicks, Kyle Hamilton and college

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football is an NFL guy. Some photography him being a

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high as a first render, like can he be big

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time as a junior?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: You know the Yeah, it's hard to replace Chase Roberts.

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where's that production coming from? Because Parker had a great year.

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I can Parker go next level? I thought he was

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really good? So yeah, that's a good that's a good question. Obviously,

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we'll see it play out, but I would say right now,

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it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to say yes because

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those are some big names that you always losing. But

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I'm excited to see what these guys can do. And

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early in the season they were like, dude, they are

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better than last year. And like I said, they're gonna

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have more four stars on the rosters than they've ever had,

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So why not. It's not just about the stars, but

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it is nice that you get those cuts.

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Speaker 2: Who's wide receiver one next year? It's something we've debated.

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Do you have a wide receiver one?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to just say it's Parker Kinson, right.

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I know he's not like the traditional outside receiver will

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be the flat guy, but he absolutely will be a

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wide receiver one for be Away next year.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they add any others or do you

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feel like they have enough between the new you know,

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Kyler Kasper and then the young bucks coming in to

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replace the old guys that are going out.

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Speaker 1: I think they do have a lot of good young talent,

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and I think they they like where Reggie fresh Neck

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could be. I think if you combine, you know, some

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Reggie freshnecks, so maybe they throw deep to Cody Hagen

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a little more Jared Pula Terrence Sorry. On the combination

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of these guys, I think they feel like, yeah, they

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could replace some of the products can Jojo Phelips, Scope Nuts.

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They I feel like, okay, among the group, perhaps they

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could combine for what Chase was doing. But Chase was special, man.

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I think he's top top five receiver probably at b

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YU all time. He was really really singing good you

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don't you don't just easily go yeah, we're good with that.

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I'm like, yeah, and they'll take some development. And Betty

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Stuck is up for the challenge. I'm sure he's no

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a great job.

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Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Jerem. Best way to support

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Thanks so much, JJ, Thanks Ben, there you go.

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