Speaker 1: Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. These guys
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Speaker 2: Lip stary and me.
Speaker 1: Righteous on yesterday listening, oh watching Lim always keep it squatchy.
Speaker 3: And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Boobo Fay.
Speaker 4: How did Cliff? Hello?
Speaker 2: Bobo? How are you doing today?
Speaker 4: Excellent?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 1: I am also excellent? What's new in your environment? Anything
Speaker 1: special going on? Do you want to share?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: We got someone else to look forward to today, another
Speaker 5: old Squatch buddy of a friend of ours from before
Speaker 5: the show, but who worked on the show, The Mysterious
Speaker 5: and elusive, just like the Squatch himself.
Speaker 4: He's a little hairy guy, Tyler Bounds on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler Bounds, Loston Bounds is a nickname. He was,
Speaker 1: of course on Finding Bigfoot. He was he had a
Speaker 1: variety of jobs, but he was basically one of the
Speaker 1: main camera guy for all the camping segments. And Tyler
Speaker 1: is sitting right next to me. We're both sharing a
Speaker 1: mike here. So Tyler, welcome to Bigfoot and Beyond with us.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me Cliff and Bobs and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: good to be good to be on your show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, guy, where do we even start?
Speaker 1: I guess we should probably start with people who don't
Speaker 1: know you, like like why would they even care? Like
Speaker 1: like who are you? And what are you doing on
Speaker 1: our show? Like you've been a bigfooter for a long time.
Speaker 1: Fill us in a little bit about how it out started.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I've been a lifelong enthusiast and interest. And
Speaker 6: you know, I had when I was really young, had
Speaker 6: a siding with my grandfather that I barely remember, but
Speaker 6: he did cast footprints and when we went back to
Speaker 6: his ranch, he had a dozen or so prints up
Speaker 6: against this outbuilding and you know, and I remember going
Speaker 6: back over the years and going out and staring at
Speaker 6: these casts and like wow, that's wow. Grandpa has a
Speaker 6: bunch of these things, and you know, and then reading
Speaker 6: books in the library and you know, doing the whole thing,
Speaker 6: and you know. And then in nineteen ninety two, I
Speaker 6: was driving through California, went to Bluff Creek, went to
Speaker 6: Willow Creek and bought a map in John Green's books,
Speaker 6: The Red and the Yellow One, And from Al Hodgson
Speaker 6: at the store, he gave me a big Foot map
Speaker 6: and I went and drove around the woods and went
Speaker 6: on my first quote unquote bigfoot expedition in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 6: which is just was me driving around on logging roads
Speaker 6: at night.
Speaker 2: That's how we all start.
Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, it's hilarious that you're from Washington and
Speaker 5: you choke to northern California to look for big But.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was coming back from Tahoe, so I
Speaker 6: made a special little side train like to go to
Speaker 6: Willo Creek and go to all the places that I
Speaker 6: read about and heard about, and you know, and then
Speaker 6: just cut through and did that whole thing, and.
Speaker 2: You know, and then.
Speaker 6: Eventually I got wrapped up with the BFRO going on
Speaker 6: expeditions and then becoming a investigator researcher, and then organizing
Speaker 6: and facilitating my own expeditions with customers and clients and
Speaker 6: other bigfooters, and you know, doing doing that whole thing
Speaker 6: here in Washington and in Oregon, and you know, just
Speaker 6: going on bigfoot expeditions, trips, going bigfooting or squatching, whatever
Speaker 6: you want to call it. And you know, and that's
Speaker 6: how I met you, Bobo. That's how I met you, Cliff.
Speaker 6: You know, and then one thing led to another and
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not even sure how I fell into
Speaker 6: finding Bigfoot. I ended up in Georgia while you guys
Speaker 6: were filming there. You know, kind of got lucky in
Speaker 6: Georgia and then became a fixer on some other episodes
Speaker 6: and then got brought on full time to you know,
Speaker 6: follow you guys around out in the woods with the
Speaker 6: camera and everything else that came with that.
Speaker 2: Being a production assistant and face you.
Speaker 4: Had you pull, they had you pull in double duty.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean when I volunteered to like, hey,
Speaker 6: why doesn't somebody just drive the U haul from locational location?
Speaker 6: You know, and then that became a job for like
Speaker 6: four and a half years. So you know, watch what
Speaker 6: you watch what you say on that show, because they
Speaker 6: will like, oh, you want to do another thing.
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 1: And also something to point out is that first season
Speaker 1: and which includes the first Georgia episode, and we didn't
Speaker 1: have a camping segment. The camping segment came about because
Speaker 1: of the cast like dissatisfaction.
Speaker 2: With the way things were going.
Speaker 1: And once we had that kind of blowout of the
Speaker 1: meeting in Oregon where the network executives came out from Manhattan.
Speaker 1: That kind of is what gave birth to the camping segment.
Speaker 1: So if you notice and go back to the Finding
Speaker 1: Bigfoot episodes, there was no camping segment during first season.
Speaker 1: That came about because we were complaining, we can't do
Speaker 1: real bigfooting under the circumstances. So we got the camping segment.
Speaker 1: And that's where Tyler fell in because he's a camper man.
Speaker 1: He's backpacking all the time, he's camping, he knows the
Speaker 1: gear and he would be there for us. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he was our camping technician dash you know, film dude
Speaker 1: for the camping segment.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because Tyler is like a master outdoors.
Speaker 5: I mean when we would even like for Renee, who's
Speaker 5: you know, scientific background, like Tyler would be telling her
Speaker 5: what the what everything was like. He would tell all
Speaker 5: us like this is he'd know the Latin word for
Speaker 5: these kind of trees, these bushes, what barriers or what
Speaker 5: are edible. And also Tyler was known in the backpacking world.
Speaker 5: He was a reviewer for their products. The companies would
Speaker 5: send in the Backpacker magazine and they'd send him gear
Speaker 5: to when we were out in the field finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 5: They'd give send him stuff to test out there.
Speaker 4: That he'd write reviews.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a pretty sweet gig because they were
Speaker 6: really happy that, oh, you're going to be in Louisiana
Speaker 6: Bayous this week and then in snowy Montana next week
Speaker 6: and then you know, so they would send me here
Speaker 6: to test out this winter gear here, test out you know,
Speaker 6: because every week we're in a different part of the country.
Speaker 6: So it was, Yeah, they were really stoked on me,
Speaker 6: like we can send you all the stuff and you know,
Speaker 6: you're going to test it in every every ecosystem, every.
Speaker 2: Climate, every type of weather.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, that was, you know, a pretty sweet
Speaker 6: side gig that I also fell into.
Speaker 2: So that was pretty funny.
Speaker 7: So the first episode you worked on was the George episode, right,
Speaker 7: so you said, not officially, I was just there visiting.
Speaker 7: I would just happen to be in Georgia and then
Speaker 7: met up with you guys, and then was kind of
Speaker 7: tagging along with our friend Matt Pruitt and then you know,
Speaker 7: and I remember the producers Bisha and Chad like who.
Speaker 2: Is this guy? Why is he here?
Speaker 6: And you know, just kind of hanging out and yeah,
Speaker 6: so I wasn't even employed or working on the show
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 2: But you got some FaceTime on that episode, didn't you.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we Yeah, when we went up in the went
Speaker 6: up in the woods in our big caravan, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 2: I was part of the Georgia b f ro.
Speaker 6: O, right, and you know, and hanging out of the
Speaker 6: side of a car with the thermal and like, let's
Speaker 6: go this way, you know, just Mayhem, just making TV Mayheim, but.
Speaker 4: We'll run down the hill. What for bro just run
Speaker 4: down the hill exactly.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wasn't even employed. I was just there.
Speaker 6: I was just kind of a hanger on and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, and then you know, I found some footprints
Speaker 6: when we were up interviewing a witness Bull Mountain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those those footprints that we that they
Speaker 1: showed me casting on camera.
Speaker 2: Tyler is the guy that found those.
Speaker 1: And we were such sticklers for the truth because we
Speaker 1: saw what direction the production company was pulling us, and
Speaker 1: we're refusing, and so we were such sticklers for the truth.
Speaker 1: That was a very difficult thing. Is a hard lesson
Speaker 1: for me, but I think we handled it correctly. Tyler,
Speaker 1: I was filming with the witness, and I think Renee,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, about the footprints, he found just
Speaker 1: two weeks or something beforehand.
Speaker 2: Interesting footprints.
Speaker 1: You can see him on my website if you go
Speaker 1: on the Cliffberrickman dot com and check out the cast database.
Speaker 1: And then Tyler comes back. He's like he's out of breath.
Speaker 1: I think he got clearly excited, and he goes, footprints.
Speaker 1: You go, really are their toes? He goes, yes, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. And then we went and looked at him.
Speaker 1: Actually we didn't look at him. Tyler kind of pointed
Speaker 1: us the right direction, and I was Chad, I think
Speaker 1: was a producer on that one, and I told chat like, hey, well,
Speaker 1: Tyler needs to get credit for this, and he goes, well, Cliff,
Speaker 1: we can't do that as well. No, that's as important.
Speaker 1: Tyler needs to get credit because he's the guy that
Speaker 1: found it. But I mean, I'm happy to cast them
Speaker 1: on camera. I'd be thrilled to do so, but Tyler
Speaker 1: needs credit, goes clip. The audience won't get it. I
Speaker 1: think about it as a viewer of the show. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's not on camera finds the prints and then tells
Speaker 1: you to That just doesn't make sense. And I said, oh, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I can kind of see that, you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of understand that. So Renee and I played that we
Speaker 1: found them and then we cast them in the whole
Speaker 1: nine and stuff. But I want to point out that,
Speaker 1: like for the truth part of it all, I used
Speaker 1: to do videos and write ups for every single episode
Speaker 1: that we did. I've always given Tyler full credit for
Speaker 1: finding those and in fact, those casts are on display
Speaker 1: here at the North American big Foot Center, and Tyler
Speaker 1: also gets credit for them on the wall.
Speaker 2: I understand the TV part of it. I didn't like it,
Speaker 2: but I understand it, so I you know, I agreed
Speaker 2: for that, even that was hard. I don't. I just
Speaker 2: strongly dislike misleading the audience in any way, but that
Speaker 2: was an important thing.
Speaker 5: Well, originally Tyler was supposed to was not a PA.
Speaker 5: Tyler was supposed to be We were going to do
Speaker 5: our squatch and like during the night investigations, he was
Speaker 5: going to stay out there and record audio and firm
Speaker 5: and anything. Any recording audio he got, we would just
Speaker 5: you know, we wouldn't attribute to him. We would just
Speaker 5: put mix it in the show saying like this was recorded,
Speaker 5: so that way, if he got it, we just blended
Speaker 5: into the show.
Speaker 4: As a compromise, you can said you can't just have
Speaker 4: this guy.
Speaker 5: Pop in, you know, which I get at the time.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, we got to do it totally,
Speaker 4: you know, by the book. And then we did it.
Speaker 5: We all agreed at the end, like, Okay, he's he's
Speaker 5: part of the team, so if someone from the team
Speaker 5: gets it, well incorporate it into the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I didn't mind, I mean, because I knew
Speaker 6: that I wasn't on the show and you know whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, like those footprints in Georgia, you know, as
Speaker 6: long as it didn't really matter to me a ton,
Speaker 6: but it was cool that I found the footprint and
Speaker 6: that in the real world, you know, Cliff was always
Speaker 6: advertising or pointing out that Tyler actually found these and
Speaker 6: you know, and but you know how we did play
Speaker 6: it is when I pointed out the footprints to you,
Speaker 6: Cliff and said they are over there. So actually when
Speaker 6: you did see them on camera, you were seeing those
Speaker 6: for the first time. It wasn't It wasn't like a
Speaker 6: fake like here's the footprints and like, okay, now pretend
Speaker 6: like you're seeing the footprints.
Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't a fake reaction because like like
Speaker 1: I literally said this today to a customer in the
Speaker 1: museum here is that we're not actors. And if you
Speaker 1: need proof, look at the parts of the show where
Speaker 1: we were forced to act. Yeah, we're not actors, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was cool.
Speaker 6: And you know, whatever I could do for the show,
Speaker 6: and you know, any audio or incidental stuff that I
Speaker 6: filmed or recorded, you know, was always used throughout the show,
Speaker 6: you know, no matter where we were, Like I would
Speaker 6: film a moose in Idaho and then they would show
Speaker 6: it in a different episode.
Speaker 2: Like that's cool. You got a lot of b roll. Actually,
Speaker 2: I got tons of b roll.
Speaker 6: And I even got to I got a call from
Speaker 6: Keith one time.
Speaker 2: At the network. Yeah, at the network.
Speaker 6: I got a call from him and he said something like, hey,
Speaker 6: I'm in the editing booth.
Speaker 2: Amazing work on the b roll, man.
Speaker 4: You got this.
Speaker 6: Animal and you know, because I would lay on my
Speaker 6: belly and getting ground squirrels coming in and out of holes,
Speaker 6: or the moose in the pond, or birds or snakes
Speaker 6: and you know, or like Bobo when we're in Louisiana, I.
Speaker 2: Think, and like that cotton mouth coming through the through.
Speaker 4: The water and came out and chased Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, stuff like that and you know
Speaker 6: sunrises and sunsets and moon and whatever and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: so it was really cool that you know, they would
Speaker 6: use that stuff and that I actually got, you know,
Speaker 6: an adda boy from Keith like keep up the good work.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, doing great, you know. So so that was cool.
Speaker 6: Like you know, me not really no knowing what I'm
Speaker 6: doing or how to you know, be a Hollywood cameraman,
Speaker 6: but I know how to be a cameraman out in
Speaker 6: the woods running round and you know, following you guys around.
Speaker 2: So so it all worked out.
Speaker 4: Don't be so modest, Tyler. You were in the av
Speaker 4: club in high school.
Speaker 6: Actually I was, you know I for a little while,
Speaker 6: and you know, just making like skateboard videos like we
Speaker 6: were all doing and you know, the late eighties and
Speaker 6: dumb jackass type stuff before there was jackass and jump
Speaker 6: off this thing and set that on fire and that
Speaker 6: sort of nonsense.
Speaker 2: But that was a long time before that.
Speaker 5: So you know, when I think of Tyler Brown's been
Speaker 5: finding big Foot, three things popped vine right off the
Speaker 5: top of my head.
Speaker 4: One is, uh, well four things.
Speaker 5: One for is just the Lost and Bounds handle, which
Speaker 5: he got because he found this walkie talking that was
Speaker 5: in the in the pitch black, and I don't think
Speaker 5: it was even on, was it. I don't think it
Speaker 5: was even It was out of batteries or something. It
Speaker 5: was somewhere along two miles of forest trail and the
Speaker 5: block and he found.
Speaker 4: So they got the name lost in Bounds for lost
Speaker 4: and found.
Speaker 5: And then I think about the dented up rental van,
Speaker 5: that the night where you hit something in the fog.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Virginia.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I also think about the time you and I
Speaker 5: were spooking out in Alabama.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, that's only three though, Boss one more?
Speaker 5: Oh, getting the reports on the funniest things money Maker
Speaker 5: said and did on his solos.
Speaker 1: Well, let's attack those one at a time. Yeah, Tyler Bounce,
Speaker 1: of course, is this gentleman's name. And we nicknamed him
Speaker 1: lost in Bounds because it was just more more than
Speaker 1: that radio. That radio event happened. Moneymaker dropped the radio
Speaker 1: somewhere in New Mexico, I think, and Tyler miraculously found it.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't it. I mean, I remember you got
Speaker 1: on one of the you got Heather's phone or something
Speaker 1: at one point.
Speaker 6: I remember the first time I found when you guys
Speaker 6: were running through the woods in Rhode Island with the
Speaker 6: fire fire.
Speaker 2: Torches running through the woods, right and and.
Speaker 6: Somebody dropped the radio then, And that one was fairly
Speaker 6: easy to find because I just had to follow the
Speaker 6: trails of burned up fabric through the woods, following off
Speaker 6: your guys's torches, which was an amazing episode. And you know,
Speaker 6: and I'll never forget when you guys were all standing
Speaker 6: there with your backpacks on and torches, and some ATVs
Speaker 6: came up and you guys just turned around and like
Speaker 6: held these torches up, and those guys turned around and
Speaker 6: zoomed off, and like, I wonder what those guys thought
Speaker 6: was going on. Just they they come around this corner
Speaker 6: and there's people just standing there with torches and these
Speaker 6: backpacks with these armatures, and they just turned around and gone.
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget that. And then yeah, we lost
Speaker 6: a radio in Idaho when we were filming in Pocatello,
Speaker 6: and I went up and down that mountain like three times.
Speaker 2: Found a radio.
Speaker 6: And then yeah, one of our story producers, Heather lost
Speaker 6: her phone.
Speaker 2: Was Kentucky or something.
Speaker 6: It was Kentucky, and you guys had gone down road
Speaker 6: on ATVs and it was in the fall.
Speaker 2: Oh that was Virginia. That was a Virginia.
Speaker 6: Well it doesn't matter, but yeah, I think we were
Speaker 6: like on the border and we would have to like
Speaker 6: go into Kentucky from Virginia or something. But went down
Speaker 6: this road on ATVs. And then Heather got back and
Speaker 6: realized that she lost her phone, and everybody was like,
Speaker 6: you can do it, Tyler, and like it's dark and
Speaker 6: you guys just rustled up all these dead leaves that
Speaker 6: are on the ground when you go over on the ATVs.
Speaker 6: They all get, you know, get flung up in the
Speaker 6: air and they're just going to fall and they could
Speaker 6: land on the phone and cover it up and I'll
Speaker 6: never see it.
Speaker 2: And I don't have an ATV. So I'm on foot.
Speaker 1: Long story short, I did find it. Was there anything
Speaker 1: you couldn't find? Did you fail? I? Well, bigfoot? Well no,
Speaker 1: no that's.
Speaker 2: Not true either. No, we'll get to that. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was what did Oh? Then actually I found
Speaker 6: Keith's phone in Florida. We were doing that behind the scene. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's slidified And he dropped his iPhone and then he's like, well,
Speaker 6: you're the guy or I think you said, Cliff, like,
Speaker 6: Tyler can find anything, and Keith said, I'll throw I'll
Speaker 6: give you one hundred dollars if you find my iPhone.
Speaker 6: And I walked around in the dark and found his
Speaker 6: phone and he gave me one hundred dollars right there.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and also talk about kudos. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the boss, boss boss, that's Keith from Animal Planet and
Speaker 1: you found his phone. How stoked was he? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was on Tyler bounds. He was pretty stoked. That was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I mean that was just hilarious. Behind the scenes thing
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Speaker 2: It was one of those behind the scenes episodes out
Speaker 2: there and we're doing but yeah, what, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know if there was anything that I could not,
Speaker 6: anything that I failed.
Speaker 1: That's what I'd like to remember you as, like, like
Speaker 1: there's nothing he cannot find. Yeah, that's how I'd like
Speaker 1: to remember this whole thing. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Stay
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Speaker 1: Well, now, the second thing you mentioned, Bobo was the
Speaker 1: dented up rent a van thing that happened in Virginia.
Speaker 1: And I'd love to hear Tyler's version of this, especially
Speaker 1: after all these years. What do you remember about that
Speaker 1: night and what happened? Because our viewers probably don't know
Speaker 1: anything about this. Yeah, I ask viewers, is I said
Speaker 1: viewers again?
Speaker 2: Viewers?
Speaker 1: You can't see me, right, listeners, Okay, that's good. My
Speaker 1: hair is not done.
Speaker 2: You can see my voice.
Speaker 6: I actually remember this fairly well because I recorded after
Speaker 6: this happened. I recorded it on an audio recorder, just
Speaker 6: like dictated what had happened, what I'd been doing, what
Speaker 6: time it was, where I was, so that I would remember.
Speaker 6: And it was actually your suggestion, Cliff, when I called
Speaker 6: you like two in the morning, like I don't even
Speaker 6: know what happened, like get recorder, record it while it's fresh.
Speaker 6: And I listened to that recording over and over for
Speaker 6: a while, and I don't think I have it anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 6: But so it was something that is pretty uh pretty
Speaker 6: not fresh, but I can remember a lot of details.
Speaker 6: So what happened was I was in Virginia and I
Speaker 6: was given a task to go make the greatest bigfoot
Speaker 6: bait pile the world has ever seen. And our producer
Speaker 6: Aaron said, here, take this liver, take this trout, take
Speaker 6: these apples, peanut butter bagels, I think some dog food,
Speaker 6: and go out and make the greatest pile. So I
Speaker 6: went out and made this big like mandala out of
Speaker 6: apples and bagels and donuts.
Speaker 2: And took some pictures. Uh oh.
Speaker 6: We had the tracking powder, the UV tracking the powder right,
Speaker 6: and put all this tracking powder.
Speaker 2: On this bait pile so that when Bigfoot.
Speaker 6: Or any other crater comes and takes part of it
Speaker 6: when they walk away, this tracking powder, which is a
Speaker 6: powder that's really sticky and here's everything would fall on
Speaker 6: the ground and we'd be able to follow it with
Speaker 6: our special UV lights. And then when I came back
Speaker 6: to the hotel, because it was a long ways away,
Speaker 6: it was like an hour and a half drive each direction.
Speaker 2: When I went back.
Speaker 6: To tuck the producers and like I did it, and
Speaker 6: I showed them the photo and the executive producer said, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: you were supposed to make a pile of donuts and
Speaker 6: then apples and then peanut butter, because then the team
Speaker 6: is going to go out at night and you guys
Speaker 6: are going to Did they.
Speaker 2: Like the donuts? Did they like the apples?
Speaker 6: You know, it doesn't make sense for the show to
Speaker 6: have one big pile, and like, all right, well there
Speaker 6: it is, and you know, and then what so. But
Speaker 6: I was upset because then the other producers like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's what I told you to do, and I said, no,
Speaker 6: that is not what you told me to do.
Speaker 2: You told me to go make the greatest bait pile ever.
Speaker 2: So I was I mean, I want his name. It
Speaker 2: was Aaron.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was a cool guy, but you know when
Speaker 6: he kind of threw me under the bus for that,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, it's not what you said, but whatever.
Speaker 6: You know, crap rolls downhill, and I took it like
Speaker 6: a took it like a champ. So I was given
Speaker 6: I was given a credit card and they said, go
Speaker 6: buy more stuff and go back out in the woods
Speaker 6: and set up these piles like we wanted you to.
Speaker 6: And I said okay, so you know by this time
Speaker 6: it's dark. I drive all the way out there, it's dark.
Speaker 6: I remember walking down the road and I see these
Speaker 6: lights bobbing through the.
Speaker 2: Through the trees ahead.
Speaker 6: Of me and realized that there's a couple coon hunters
Speaker 6: out there with a dog, and the dog has a
Speaker 6: light on his collar. And I'm walking down this road
Speaker 6: in the dark with grocery bags pull of peanut butter, beef, liver, donuts,
Speaker 6: trout apples, and I'm like, I don't want to have
Speaker 6: to answer questions like what I'm doing out of the
Speaker 6: woods at ten o'clock at night with groceries. So I
Speaker 6: went and hit off the trail, hid behind this log
Speaker 6: waiting for him to go buy. But this dog sniffed
Speaker 6: me out and came right up into my face, and
Speaker 6: I'll never forget the guy like, Apaulo, get back over here,
Speaker 6: A Paulo.
Speaker 2: Get away.
Speaker 6: And this other guy's like, I think he he has
Speaker 6: something up there, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: don't please don't come up here, because the only thing
Speaker 6: weirder than seeing a guy walking down the road with
Speaker 6: groceries is coming up on a guy hiding behind a
Speaker 6: stump with groceries in the middle of nowhere, and they
Speaker 6: came up within feet of me and grabbed the dog
Speaker 6: and walked off and never saw me.
Speaker 2: So that was strange.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So I went out and made all these piles,
Speaker 6: put the tracking powder on them, you know, in the
Speaker 6: middle of the night, like marking them all with the GPS,
Speaker 6: because I'm doing this in the dark. We have to
Speaker 6: be able to find these spots, or you guys have
Speaker 6: to be able to find these spots when you go
Speaker 6: out for a night investigation.
Speaker 2: Later. So I did all that and then I'm driving
Speaker 2: back and I'm.
Speaker 6: Super tired from going out here and doing this thing,
Speaker 6: truck twice, making the drive twice.
Speaker 2: Long day. I mean, there was a lot of long
Speaker 2: days working on that show.
Speaker 6: I mean there were days that you know, sixteen eighteen,
Speaker 6: you know, or like when we filmed in Olympia, we were,
Speaker 6: you know, we were still filming at like seven in
Speaker 6: the morning after our night investigation.
Speaker 2: Like let's just keep going, let's just keep doing it.
Speaker 6: And so I was leaving and you know, way up
Speaker 6: in the mountains and I was coming down this road
Speaker 6: headed home. I finally get off the dirt road, get
Speaker 6: out of pavement. Here's the highway. Here I go, you know,
Speaker 6: and it goes through this draw. There's mountains on each side,
Speaker 6: fields on each side of the highway.
Speaker 2: There's a creek that goes through there. It's all foggy
Speaker 2: because you know, it's.
Speaker 6: Bottoms or haulers or whatever those things are called foggy dark.
Speaker 6: And I get on the highway and I'm looking down
Speaker 6: at my dashboards. I'm putting it on cruise control because
Speaker 6: i just want to get home, and you know, doing
Speaker 6: the thing looking at the dashboard, and I look up
Speaker 6: and right there in front of me, I had half
Speaker 6: a second to react. There was something standing in the
Speaker 6: middle of the road, like on the line, or maybe
Speaker 6: just a little bit to my side of the line.
Speaker 6: And the next thing I know.
Speaker 2: Hit it.
Speaker 6: It smacked the rear view mirror on the driver's side,
Speaker 6: and then something hit the roof of the mini van.
Speaker 6: And I immediately stopped and didn't see anything behind me.
Speaker 6: You know, the brake lights were like lighting up the fog.
Speaker 6: So there's just this big pink mist behind me. Turned around,
Speaker 6: didn't see anything, turned around again, didn't see anything, and
Speaker 6: I was certain that I had hit a person. It
Speaker 6: was upright, it was standing there, and you know, I
Speaker 6: was like, I just ran into some drunk hillbilly that
Speaker 6: was standing out in the middle of the road at
Speaker 6: two in the morning for some reason. And and I
Speaker 6: was really I was really upset. I was very distraught
Speaker 6: about the whole thing because I thought that I hit
Speaker 6: a person. So I was like standing, I pulled over
Speaker 6: and standing on the guardrail and yelling like, come.
Speaker 2: Out, mister, sorry, I hit you.
Speaker 6: You know, I'll help you, and nothing and nothing, and
Speaker 6: you know, and then the little thing in the back
Speaker 6: of my head it's like, why would there be a
Speaker 6: person out here standing the middle of the road at night,
Speaker 6: And why were you out here setting up bait piles?
Speaker 6: Because this is a big footy place. This is why
Speaker 6: we're here. Looked around you. There's a river right here,
Speaker 6: there's fields with deer and cows and steep mountains on
Speaker 6: each side, like bigfoot dude, Like no, you know, yes, no, yes,
Speaker 6: and so yeah. And I called Cliff at the called
Speaker 6: you at your hotel and you were like, if you're
Speaker 6: calling me at two thirty in the morning, then you
Speaker 6: know something something's up. And like, I think I just
Speaker 6: hit a person, but maybe a bigfod but probably person,
Speaker 6: but I don't know. And then that's when you suggested, hey,
Speaker 6: record it all fresh in your mind, where you are,
Speaker 6: what you were doing while you were there, what happened.
Speaker 5: So you looked, I mean you went out with a
Speaker 5: thermal and you were you looked around for like forty
Speaker 5: five minutes.
Speaker 4: It was like you just yelled up the bridge and
Speaker 4: then left.
Speaker 2: I mean you oh, yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was really upset because I wanted to I
Speaker 6: didn't want to leave and have somebody injured, you know,
Speaker 6: on the side of the road. So yeah, I had therms,
Speaker 6: and that's how I knew, like looking out these fields
Speaker 6: that there's there's deer out there. I mean there's you know,
Speaker 6: half a dozen deer mingled with these cows. And then
Speaker 6: I look on the other side of the road and
Speaker 6: there's deer over there and all sorts of little rabbits,
Speaker 6: and I mean there's briers alongside the road. So there
Speaker 6: was a lot of wildlife out there, you know. And
Speaker 6: like I said, there was this creek that went through
Speaker 6: that was right there, so you know, there's all the
Speaker 6: aquatic life and frogs and fish and birds and all
Speaker 6: that sort of thing. I mean there's tons of food there,
Speaker 6: which is why, you know, I was thinking, like, you know,
Speaker 6: the only house is way over there. Why would there
Speaker 6: be a guy standing here? Face it, dude, was this
Speaker 6: was a bigfoot. But then there's the other part, like
Speaker 6: so the bigfooter guy that's working on a bigfoot show
Speaker 6: is out setting up bigfoot bait piles, then hits a bigfoot.
Speaker 6: You know that it's too much to you know, it's
Speaker 6: a little much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, looking at the van the next morning, because you're like,
Speaker 5: it could have been a person. But it was clearly
Speaker 5: hair striations because it was we draw off road all
Speaker 5: the time, so the cars always covered in dirt and dust,
Speaker 5: and it was hair stration marks from the top from
Speaker 5: the roof of the mini van down like to the
Speaker 5: wheel well, it was clearly you'd hit something covered in hair.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I didn't. I didn't even stop to
Speaker 6: look at the car after it happened. I was more
Speaker 6: concerned with everything else. And you know, when I didn't
Speaker 6: find find a person, I was down off the side
Speaker 6: of the road, you know, And I drove all the
Speaker 6: way back to the hotel and I didn't get back
Speaker 6: there until like four in the morning or something and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, and then having to tell the producer Chad like, hey,
Speaker 6: I messed up a rental car and he's like, well,
Speaker 6: what'd you do? Did you go off the road you
Speaker 6: know where I'm like, no, I hit something or maybe someone,
Speaker 6: And it's like wait what and you know, and I knew,
Speaker 6: you know, I was expect I was expecting to be
Speaker 6: in trouble that I messed up a rental car, which
Speaker 6: I mean it, you know, I didn't really get in
Speaker 6: trouble for it, but it is like, you know, bad, no, no,
Speaker 6: but it's not really your fault. And I told him like,
Speaker 6: if I had gone off the road or got you know,
Speaker 6: ditched the car or something, I would have totally told
Speaker 6: you and you know, faced the consequences because you know,
Speaker 6: I'm up prep, upfront, honest.
Speaker 2: Chad was always upfront.
Speaker 6: And honest with me, and so you know, pay him
Speaker 6: back by being being the same with him, you know.
Speaker 6: And then we were going to you know, somehow use
Speaker 6: it in the show, but then once again it's like, well,
Speaker 6: how do we play this that tyler, you know, how
Speaker 6: how does this happen? You know, and can we even
Speaker 6: use it on the show. But nevertheless, we did have
Speaker 6: the DNA kit evidence kit that had in the U haul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobo scraped that stuff off if I remember right,
Speaker 2: And I don't know what happened to that.
Speaker 4: But no, first, this is the part of that Droe
Speaker 4: be insane.
Speaker 5: Like I honestly thought at this point, is Renee some
Speaker 5: kind of government plant to cover up any Bigfoot evidence?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she looked like she was in a trance.
Speaker 5: And she goes up and she puts her hand where
Speaker 5: the because there was body damage or do you have
Speaker 5: to fill out accident report or whatever with the insurance
Speaker 5: company because and.
Speaker 4: She ran was rubbing her hands over the whole area,
Speaker 4: like touching it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she touched it.
Speaker 6: She was like, oh, right here, you mean right, here's
Speaker 6: where you And we're like, dude, yeah, that's you just
Speaker 6: touched with your bare hands, and you know, and I
Speaker 6: but I thought that we did. I thought you did,
Speaker 6: but well, like you got some of it. But then yeah, Renee,
Speaker 6: yeah just touched it. And we're like, okay.
Speaker 5: She rubbed her hands over like like feeling the dam
Speaker 5: like all but the whole even in the part where
Speaker 5: the damage was just with the marks where she just
Speaker 5: rubbed her hands over all of it like, and I
Speaker 5: was yelling at like, yelling Renee, Renee, stop stopping, and
Speaker 5: she just like she had this blank look at her face.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: I think it was kind of like the reality of
Speaker 5: it slapping her in the face, like this is this
Speaker 5: she was trying to get like a physical I don't know,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like some it was it
Speaker 5: was odd she didn't It was the only time she
Speaker 5: did anything like that.
Speaker 4: It was just so strange.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's a robot. I've never really considered that before.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's a possibility, you know what, Renee
Speaker 6: with a blank face on what No way, never saw that,
Speaker 6: never anyways. But yeah, so that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then the next day, because I was still really
Speaker 6: bothered by this, even bigfoot or no bigfoot, I hit
Speaker 6: something and I was really you know, and whether it
Speaker 6: was I mean, I've I've thought about the possibility that
Speaker 6: it was maybe a deer or something that was on
Speaker 6: the road, and because it was so close to the headlight,
Speaker 6: like maybe its shadow on the fog made it look
Speaker 6: tall and big. But I would have seen I would
Speaker 6: have seen a deer. I mean, I would have hopefully
Speaker 6: I would have known, you know, I wasn't like that tired,
Speaker 6: and I wasn't hallucinating that, you know. I would hope
Speaker 6: that I would be able to tell the difference between
Speaker 6: a deer and a person.
Speaker 5: And then there was hair marks at my eye level
Speaker 5: on the mini van. There was hair marks on that
Speaker 5: part even.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, whatever it was, it hit the top
Speaker 6: of the top of the roof of the van, and so,
Speaker 6: you know, and kind of what I thought is I
Speaker 6: hit this thing and it spun it around and like
Speaker 6: and flailing arm. Maybe hit the top of the van
Speaker 6: or some I mean somebody part something hit the top
Speaker 6: of the van. There was marks on it.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
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Speaker 6: But the next day we went up to that location
Speaker 6: and one of our pas, Nick Crow, went and got
Speaker 6: food and then he came back and he said, I
Speaker 6: called all the hospitals within like two hour radius of
Speaker 6: this spot, and nobody was admitted that, you know, had
Speaker 6: been hit by a car. And I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: thanks thank you, Nick, thank you.
Speaker 2: Relief.
Speaker 6: But that also doesn't mean that I mean, we're way
Speaker 6: out in Virginia, you know, where the people might not
Speaker 6: go to the hospital.
Speaker 5: This is like western western Virginia like people think of Virginia,
Speaker 5: you know, like Washington, DC.
Speaker 4: This is it's hill country. I mean it's as hillbilly
Speaker 4: as Kentucky or West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean it's like hilly.
Speaker 6: It's like moonshiner country, you know, where people like get
Speaker 6: off my property. You know, we will shoot you and
Speaker 6: bury you and not even think about it. So and
Speaker 6: then Chad grabbed me. He's like, grab your food, let's go.
Speaker 6: We're gonna go down there in the daytime. We're gonna
Speaker 6: look until we find something. Just I can't I can't
Speaker 6: stand you sitting here looking like this. You know, I'm
Speaker 6: like sitting up against a tree head between my legs, like, man, no, hope,
Speaker 6: I didn't kill somebody. And uh So we went down
Speaker 6: there and I crawled through rabbit trails and the briers
Speaker 6: and the brambles looking, you know, even looking for a
Speaker 6: hurt deer, did deer, coyote or anything. And when you know,
Speaker 6: I was all over the place on both sides until
Speaker 6: Chad like we gotta you know, we gotta go.
Speaker 2: We have to go film the thing.
Speaker 6: And so it was really cool that he took me
Speaker 6: down there to put put me at ease, you know,
Speaker 6: take this weight off my shoulders.
Speaker 2: And also like, dude, what if.
Speaker 6: We'd have what if we'd have found a bigfoot, you know,
Speaker 6: down there hanging out in the in the brambles and uh,
Speaker 6: which you know obviously did not happen, but yeah. And
Speaker 6: then also at one point Matt Moneymaker tweeted something like
Speaker 6: Tyler Bounds finding Bigfoot scout bfro o whatever hits bigfoot
Speaker 6: with with car and we're all like, whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, no,
Speaker 6: and but it was too late. It's out there. And
Speaker 6: then you know, he got in trouble for one announcing
Speaker 6: where we were. So we used to keep the locations
Speaker 6: secret so that people wouldn't come out and mess with us,
Speaker 6: and you know, and then he just tweeted out where
Speaker 6: we were and what happened, but not what happened what
Speaker 6: he wanted to happen. So because of that, I also
Speaker 6: got a lot of you know a lot of stuff
Speaker 6: in like the the Bigfoot forums. Back in the day
Speaker 6: when there wasn't as much bigfoot stuff online, there was
Speaker 6: like the Bigfoot forums and a couple other things. And
Speaker 6: that was it really online for discussing bigfoot. You know,
Speaker 6: not everybody had a website and.
Speaker 2: And podcasts and that sort of thing.
Speaker 6: So I also I had to deal with a lot
Speaker 6: of ridicule and and you know, I just did it
Speaker 6: to get attention or attention for the show. And of
Speaker 6: course he hit a bigfoot, he faked it, he gets
Speaker 6: paid and you know stuff like that. Like so I
Speaker 6: just kind of gave up on that whole thing, like
Speaker 6: I don't know what I'd hit. I'm never going to
Speaker 6: know what I hit, and so let it, let it lie.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, that's that's what went down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well today's e DNA techniques, so we could have
Speaker 5: got we would have found out what we would know
Speaker 5: what he hit.
Speaker 4: Nowadays, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was I mean whenever this was when was
Speaker 6: this two thousand and you know, ten years ago, twenty eleven,
Speaker 6: So yeah, that was a that was a big fiasco
Speaker 6: for a little while.
Speaker 1: It was really interesting, you know, like, oh, we're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what else could it be, and more
Speaker 1: than anything, most importantly, trying to eliminate that it was
Speaker 1: a human being, because that you know, because nobody wants,
Speaker 1: you know, to involuntarily kill somebody, you know, obviously like
Speaker 1: holy smokes and this. And once we eliminated that and
Speaker 1: we're satisfied with that, then it's got a little exciting.
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, what can we do with this?
Speaker 1: And unfortunately I don't know what what the production company
Speaker 1: has that swab somewhere that Bobo took. I don't expect
Speaker 1: to ever hear about it or see it again because
Speaker 1: I don't think they care.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's out there somewhere. I don't know. Well anyway,
Speaker 2: that Bobo. The third thing that you, of.
Speaker 1: Course think about with mister Tyler Bounds here is the
Speaker 1: solo camping trip you guys filmed together in Alabama on
Speaker 1: that place that we nicknamed Creepy Mountain for a good
Speaker 1: reason as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Still you know that video, that video that thermal that
Speaker 5: the preacher got Paul.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, it was it is yeah right, I mean.
Speaker 4: I talked to the guys at Flair.
Speaker 5: They said whatever that was was live and it was
Speaker 5: nine foot tall approximately, you know, because they took the
Speaker 5: because he gave him the measurements and like daytime and
Speaker 5: video footage, you know, comparing whatever so I mean I
Speaker 5: felt pretty good going in, like they're here on this
Speaker 5: mountain and oh, let Tyler take it from there. It
Speaker 5: was Tyler and I on a solo camp. We were
Speaker 5: walking up the mountain and we were just we had
Speaker 5: just left camp not long. You know, we were a
Speaker 5: quarter a half mile from camp. We had only been
Speaker 5: walking up there for maybe fifteen to twenty minutes into
Speaker 5: the into the night investigation and take it from.
Speaker 4: There, Tyler.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we had left our camp spot and where
Speaker 6: our vehicle was, and it was dark. It had been
Speaker 6: raining off and on, and so we were going up
Speaker 6: this road and following Bobo and doing the thing, and
Speaker 6: you know, and Bobo, you were wearing that big, heavy
Speaker 6: duty like car heart rain slicker thing that you had. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we walked for fifteen twenty minutes something like that, and
Speaker 6: then I realized that I grabbed all the dead batteries
Speaker 6: and not the live batteries for the video camera.
Speaker 2: So I had to go back and get the batteries. Rookie,
Speaker 2: rookie mistake.
Speaker 6: But you know, if we all do it, and like,
Speaker 6: oh I thought it was recording, Oh I thought it
Speaker 6: was on.
Speaker 2: Oh the batteries are you know of course when it's important.
Speaker 6: So I ran back to the ran all the way
Speaker 6: back to the car, swapped out the batteries, and then
Speaker 6: was kind of booking back up where we had split
Speaker 6: up because you know, I have to fill them. And
Speaker 6: then coming up coming up the road, and I saw
Speaker 6: you standing on the side of the road and you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's dark, but you know, one of the you know,
Speaker 6: one of the things that we really adhere to, even
Speaker 6: on the night in the solo stuff that we would
Speaker 6: do was you know, no headlamps unless you needed them,
Speaker 6: you know, And so running all the way down, running
Speaker 6: all the way back, no headlamp, I had pretty good
Speaker 6: night vision, you know, just with my eyes and being
Speaker 6: able to discern individual trees and bushes and that sort
Speaker 6: of thing, but not detail. And was coming up this
Speaker 6: coming up the road, and the road curved to the
Speaker 6: left and right on the right there was kind of
Speaker 6: a little just a little wide spot in the road
Speaker 6: right there, and you were standing there and I saw
Speaker 6: you and you had, you know, you had your big
Speaker 6: rain slicker on, you had the hood up, and you know,
Speaker 6: with your the hood up, so you know, it's kind
Speaker 6: of this pointy thing and you're standing there and and
Speaker 6: I said something like hey, Bobs, you know, hey, what
Speaker 6: are you doing? And you know, assuming that or I
Speaker 6: was assuming that you were like peeing, and then like, hey, Bobes, you.
Speaker 4: Know, what are you doing? Hey? What do you got?
Speaker 6: Something like that, and then you just like walked off
Speaker 6: into the into the bushes in the trees. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: he's he's got something, you know, he's I need to
Speaker 6: go film this.
Speaker 2: So I go.
Speaker 6: Up there and you know, have the camera going like hey, Bobes,
Speaker 6: you know, whispering, Hey Bobes, where are you?
Speaker 3: Bob?
Speaker 6: You know, Bobo, where where did you go? You were
Speaker 6: right here and you know, and Bobo, you're a big guy.
Speaker 6: If you're going through the bushes, I can I would
Speaker 6: hear you, I could you know, find you.
Speaker 2: And there was nothing. It was totally silent, and I'm
Speaker 2: like what the heck? And like where?
Speaker 6: So I went up the road a little bit more
Speaker 6: and I was like booh boo, And then you were
Speaker 6: further up the road, you know, one hundred yards or
Speaker 6: something like on the road on the road, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: and like I'm up here at what's up? I'm like, no,
Speaker 6: you were just back there, like no, I'm up here,
Speaker 6: and like, well, then, what did I see back there?
Speaker 6: There was something at that white spot, and you said, well,
Speaker 6: I stopped there. I think you said that you would
Speaker 6: stop there, and like you pede and you know, and
Speaker 6: then kept on keeping on. Then I come up the
Speaker 6: road and there's something standing in that same spot.
Speaker 2: Your size, your shape. I mean I could see it's.
Speaker 6: Like it's Bobo with his reins, like you're on the
Speaker 6: hood up and you know, just standing there, dark uniform color,
Speaker 6: and you know, because I think we were wearing all
Speaker 6: of our rain gear because it had been raining like
Speaker 6: off and on or something.
Speaker 4: Well, I did, cause I waited there for about ten
Speaker 4: minutes before.
Speaker 5: I was just kind of milling around, therming, and I
Speaker 5: was hearing something on the other side of the road
Speaker 5: behind you.
Speaker 4: I took a leak right.
Speaker 5: There, right where you saw it, because that's where it
Speaker 5: went into the trail went in there. I took a
Speaker 5: pee there, and I heard something behind me, like brush popping,
Speaker 5: and I went over there and looked and looked nothing,
Speaker 5: and then you came up, I don't know several minutes later, and.
Speaker 4: It was it was chilly out and cool.
Speaker 5: And I remember looking at the ground where on the therm,
Speaker 5: and I could see the hot urine where he had
Speaker 5: peed over where I'd peeded like he had taken because
Speaker 5: I could see like where it had been there was cool,
Speaker 5: the cool spots where it was mine because it had
Speaker 5: been several minutes, and then the hot warm like it
Speaker 5: just had come out, you know, like on like mixed
Speaker 5: in with it. So yeah, I mean I think I
Speaker 5: thought I was marketed to territory and he said, no,
Speaker 5: you're not.
Speaker 6: There's nothing like hot urine on a on a nice
Speaker 6: cool night.
Speaker 2: There was a couple of things, but we don't want
Speaker 2: to get into that.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that was That was very interesting, and once
Speaker 6: again you know, tried to go into the into the
Speaker 6: brush and was really thick. And I think we went
Speaker 6: back there the next day bobo like in the daylight
Speaker 6: to see where it went. And obviously, you know, if
Speaker 6: it went in right there, there's going to be like
Speaker 6: hair strands and stuff stuck on these bushes and trees.
Speaker 6: And went in a little bit, but it was really thick,
Speaker 6: and you know, maybe my depth perception may have been
Speaker 6: off or something, and it didn't you know, like it
Speaker 6: went in another direction and maybe not straight in there.
Speaker 6: Maybe it went somewhere else where, you know, it wouldn't
Speaker 6: be struggling to get through brush and I just didn't
Speaker 6: see it or you know, And I think I was
Speaker 6: also filming, like looking down at the video camera because
Speaker 6: I want to have I want to be rolling when
Speaker 6: I walk up on you, So you know, my eyes
Speaker 6: might have been a little blasted from that screen or something.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I have no idea what it was where it went,
Speaker 6: but I definitely, I mean, I was one hundred percent positive.
Speaker 6: I was walking up to Bobo and like, hey, dude,
Speaker 6: what's going on? And you know when you just walked
Speaker 6: up and like did I say something wrong? You know whatever?
Speaker 6: And but it's like, well, maybe he's on something. He's
Speaker 6: got the firm, he's going in, and you know, like, hey,
Speaker 6: wait up, bots, I need to film you because this
Speaker 6: is my job.
Speaker 5: And and you heard him. Remember later that night there
Speaker 5: was two of them around camp.
Speaker 4: Were you awake? Were you still awake when they I
Speaker 4: clearly heard when walking I didn't. I didn't know what
Speaker 4: because I don't think we set up camp. Well, we
Speaker 4: did set up camp.
Speaker 5: There like late in the afternoons, get just about to
Speaker 5: get dark, because we went out after that, but I
Speaker 5: didn't realize the there was a deep goalie about ten
Speaker 5: foot deep that ran parallel and I kind of looped
Speaker 5: around the camp a little bit, and I kept hearing
Speaker 5: walking and like some you know, footfalls, Like definitely it
Speaker 5: was a squatch.
Speaker 4: I mean it was bipedal, so it wasn't boots.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of leaves on the ground and
Speaker 5: there were some bare spots of a dirt and I
Speaker 5: remember hearing that going back and forth, and I was Thurman.
Speaker 5: I'd keep Thurman out of my tent. I kept I
Speaker 5: kept my tent on zipped and I was Thurman down
Speaker 5: there and I never saw anything, like.
Speaker 4: How could they?
Speaker 5: And then the next day when it was day going
Speaker 5: to there going oh my god, I wish I knew
Speaker 5: this cut was in there. I would have known there
Speaker 5: were you know, I would have known what was going
Speaker 5: on because that was that was an active spot. That
Speaker 5: was one of the spots that I really wanted to
Speaker 5: go back to.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that was.
Speaker 6: And it's funny because I had totally forgotten about that actually,
Speaker 6: you know, And that's one of the downfalls of being
Speaker 6: on the show and being on it so long and
Speaker 6: going to so many different places that it all kind
Speaker 6: of becomes blurry, and you know, like so many places,
Speaker 6: you know so much, you know, walking around out in
Speaker 6: the woods.
Speaker 5: You did the most squats of anyone, anyone on the show,
Speaker 5: I mean, because you got to go on all this.
Speaker 5: I mean we'd go every fourth one and you got
Speaker 5: to go on all of them, so you got to
Speaker 5: go squat.
Speaker 4: I mean we'd all go out two nuts of the
Speaker 4: big the big group ones, whatever, but those.
Speaker 5: Are kind of I mean, we always felt like we
Speaker 5: had a shot on the solo, like it was such
Speaker 5: a different scene.
Speaker 4: It was such a different vibe.
Speaker 5: It was so much quieter and not constant battery changes
Speaker 5: and you know, one person's down, so everyone's down.
Speaker 4: It was just you were You're just it was. It
Speaker 4: was awesome.
Speaker 6: It was super awesome. And you know, and I also
Speaker 6: oftentimes I would be there a week or two in
Speaker 6: advance at a location, you know, because I would drive
Speaker 6: the U haul. You guys would be you know, off
Speaker 6: somewhere else on the globe, or sometimes you guys went
Speaker 6: home for a quick you know, one or two week
Speaker 6: break and I would go to the next location and
Speaker 6: hang out and do pre production and hang out with
Speaker 6: the advanced team, you know, Natalie or Melissa or whoever,
Speaker 6: Joe James, And sometimes I would go out then too,
Speaker 6: just go like, well, I have some stuff to test
Speaker 6: for Backpacker magazine and this place is hot and it's
Speaker 6: going to be good weather. So I would just like,
Speaker 6: I'm going to go out in the woods for three
Speaker 6: or four days and you know, and kind of get
Speaker 6: my bearings and check out places beforehand so that when
Speaker 6: you you guys showed up and I went to this
Speaker 6: really cool spot, it's cool, it has potential, or there's
Speaker 6: something cool or unique about it, like a mind shaft
Speaker 6: or some creepy hollow or you know, something like that.
Speaker 2: So I was really lucky to basically.
Speaker 6: You know, I got paid to go camping with my
Speaker 6: friends and go look for bigfoots and travel of the
Speaker 6: country and this was the greatest job ever.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Speaker 1: Bogo will be right back after these messages. So I
Speaker 1: think this would be a great opportunity for Tyler to
Speaker 1: tell maybe one story, maybe a favor, maybe something that
Speaker 1: just sticks out, maybe something like the only story that
Speaker 1: you can find that's appropriate to tell in public.
Speaker 2: About each one of us.
Speaker 4: Let's just go around, could like find an appropriate one
Speaker 4: for public.
Speaker 2: Well that's on him, not us.
Speaker 1: Man. We just hosted this thing. He's gonna talk, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. So who do you want to start with?
Speaker 1: Who comes to.
Speaker 2: Mind first time? Or told us a good story about
Speaker 2: any of us?
Speaker 6: Oh man, I have a lot of them.
Speaker 4: Were either when money Maker fell asleep in the cave.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Moneymaker. Me and Moneymaker in the
Speaker 6: cave and that was in the same location is where
Speaker 6: I hit the.
Speaker 2: Thing with the car. Yeah, I think that was Virginia
Speaker 2: or somewhere. Yeah, I think that was the same spot.
Speaker 6: And went up and I found this cave, this little
Speaker 6: slot underneath this rock that went into this big room
Speaker 6: and like, wow, this is a full on cave. And
Speaker 6: went in there. Moneymaker and myself like sat in there
Speaker 6: and hung out and you know, and he did this
Speaker 6: whole spiel about how he's going to sleep in the
Speaker 6: cave and this is where bigfoots would go and weather
Speaker 6: it gets bad. And I sat in there with him,
Speaker 6: like this is gold, this is amazing, and I was
Speaker 6: he you know, we're in this pristine cave, and like, dude,
Speaker 6: there's probably never been a person in here ever. And
Speaker 6: he was sitting there and he's smoking cigarettes and like
Speaker 6: flicking butts over in the rocks. I'm like, no, dude,
Speaker 6: no that's not no, no, no, So I'm like scrambling
Speaker 6: around reaching down these holes to get his cigarette butts,
Speaker 6: like we can't know. And there's these crazy cave crickets
Speaker 6: and these spiders and these centipedes like wow, you know,
Speaker 6: these could be new species. Who knows? This is amazing
Speaker 6: and money maker like, oh, spider, squish, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean that was that was legit. He slept.
Speaker 6: He did sleep in the cave, he really did. He
Speaker 6: spent the night in there, and but.
Speaker 4: He passed out before he pulled out a sleeping bag
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 5: I thought it just laid down on the rock and
Speaker 5: was going to set up his camp and then he
Speaker 5: just got up like eight or ten hours later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was yeah, exactly, you know, And I don't
Speaker 6: even know if there was a sleeping bag. I don't
Speaker 6: I don't remember is yeah, I don't remember that part
Speaker 6: for for sure. But I mean it was company in there.
Speaker 6: We hung out, we cooked food, we did our thing,
Speaker 6: and just talked and hung out in a cave, nice
Speaker 6: in a cave, and I got tons of stories.
Speaker 1: We only have so much time, though, So what do
Speaker 1: you what do you remember about solo camping with Renee?
Speaker 2: Like, what's a nice story on that one? A nice story? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh man, Renee, Okay, you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: I'll let you do me next and then we'll save
Speaker 1: Bobo for Lass.
Speaker 6: One of the things that I remember about are one
Speaker 6: of our trips Cliff, was it seemed like you and
Speaker 6: I always were getting like the short end of the
Speaker 6: stick when it came to solo camping, because I would
Speaker 6: really I really like spending time with you in the woods,
Speaker 6: and it seems like we would go and we'd get
Speaker 6: stuck in Rhode Island or Massachusetts or something and like,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: It was Connecticut, actually Connecticut. I actually went to Massachusetts
Speaker 1: because there was nothing.
Speaker 6: There was anything, and you know, and it seemed seemed
Speaker 6: like like, Oh, I get to go out with Cliff,
Speaker 6: but we're in the really terrible spot and not really
Speaker 6: you know, quote unquote squatchy or whatever. And I remember
Speaker 6: being bummed, like, oh, we're going to New Jersey and
Speaker 6: Cliff and I are going to go out in New
Speaker 6: Jersey and I camp.
Speaker 1: Behind the dumpster or something I can't understand, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand how great New Jersey was at the time.
Speaker 6: That's and that's exactly it. I was so bummed. And
Speaker 6: then we're giving the keys to that nature preserve and
Speaker 6: all those cranberry bogs out there that were being reclaimed
Speaker 6: by by nature. And it was easy, hands down, the
Speaker 6: most alive, vibrant with life area. We had deer, we
Speaker 6: had beavers, we had turtles, we had you know, we
Speaker 6: were in the pine barrens and these cranberry bogs and
Speaker 6: there's so much life and there's so much everything out there.
Speaker 6: And you know, pine pine barren snakes, you know, they
Speaker 6: lived nowhere else in the world. And we saw one
Speaker 6: and then we actually came up on this biologist who
Speaker 6: was studying them and said, yeah, they don't live anywhere else.
Speaker 2: They only live here, Like hey, we saw one of those.
Speaker 6: That was cool, and you know, and it was so
Speaker 6: alive and I you know, apologies in New Jersey. I
Speaker 6: you know, had nothing but bad things to say about
Speaker 6: you before I went there. And it was easily, I mean,
Speaker 6: the most diverse amount of life of any of the
Speaker 6: places that we went out and we missed a bigfoot,
Speaker 6: and we missed a bigfoot. Yeah, there was We heard
Speaker 6: strange calls and once again like is the recorder out?
Speaker 2: It had died. The recorder was.
Speaker 1: Out, but the batteries had died during the night, because
Speaker 1: back then I didn't have a recorder good enough to
Speaker 1: go the full you know, six or eight hours of
Speaker 1: sleep that we could get. It would die after four
Speaker 1: or six hours. And it was right at dawn. The
Speaker 1: thing woke me up, and it kind of takes a
Speaker 1: lot to wake me up. Yeah, the thing was loud
Speaker 1: and right on the other side of that river.
Speaker 6: It was pretty amazing, it was, and you know, and
Speaker 6: there were so many yeah, so much life, and it
Speaker 6: was cool.
Speaker 2: You and I went up in a.
Speaker 6: Fire lookout and you could from the top of there
Speaker 6: you could see New York in the distance, New York City,
Speaker 6: and down the Coasta Ways you could see the lights
Speaker 6: of Atlantic City, and for one hundred miles in either
Speaker 6: direction of where we.
Speaker 2: Were, it was like pitch black.
Speaker 6: Those pine barrens, thick woodsy not a whole lot out there,
Speaker 6: and even the towns that are out there really little
Speaker 6: and old, and there's cranberry bogs and the Ocean Spray
Speaker 6: cranberry factory that we found in like piles of skins
Speaker 6: outside and deer all over the place eating these cranberry skins,
Speaker 6: and you know, and the guys from Huffington Post came
Speaker 6: out with us and we took them out in the
Speaker 6: woods and filmed that whole video thing with Andy Campbell
Speaker 6: and who I'm still friends with.
Speaker 2: To this day. It was really cool, and.
Speaker 6: I was pleasantly surprised at how woodsy alive the biodiversity
Speaker 6: there in New Jersey, So that was really cool. That
Speaker 6: was a highlight of my entire time at finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Why don't we move on to Bobo now? And Bobo,
Speaker 2: maybe you want to hang up or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's up to you.
Speaker 1: We can finish this without you, but if you're brave enough,
Speaker 1: you can hang on. And then and here Tyler's story
Speaker 1: that first comes to mind about camping with.
Speaker 5: You time Tyler heard his leg and I carried him
Speaker 5: out over my shoulders a lot for eight miles.
Speaker 6: Oh, I have a lot of a lot of good
Speaker 6: memories with you, Bobo, going out there, and but I
Speaker 6: do remember when I was being frustrated you and I
Speaker 6: went and spent an awesome time out in New Mexico
Speaker 6: and the was it the Kaye Voldera out or Viller
Speaker 6: Caldera and all those elk herds and.
Speaker 4: It was negative five now I remember that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was coold and and and I remember I
Speaker 6: remember talking about talking about whatever, and you had your
Speaker 6: backpack on, you know, but you didn't have anything in
Speaker 6: your backpack.
Speaker 2: And then you said, I just hiked twenty miles from this.
Speaker 6: Side to that side, and you know, and it was
Speaker 6: awesome and amazing. And I'm like, oh, well, you don't
Speaker 6: have anything in your backpack.
Speaker 2: You can't hike twenty miles with an empty backpack. You're like, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: I was actually trying to be funny at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was, but yeah, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 6: It was alerious, like, dude, you can't say that you
Speaker 6: don't have anything in your backpack?
Speaker 2: Where did we? Where do you sleep?
Speaker 4: And it was full when I started.
Speaker 2: That's why you were there emergency provisions.
Speaker 6: Last I had to eat the sleeping bag survival situation.
Speaker 6: But that whole time in New Mexico was I mean,
Speaker 6: we were way out there. We had permission to be
Speaker 6: in places that people don't usually get to go. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I do remember having a great time out there and
Speaker 6: like following elk herds and it was just a wild
Speaker 6: another one of those like this is my job, this
Speaker 6: is what I get to do. I get to go
Speaker 6: out here with my friends and experience this, you know,
Speaker 6: and have you know, once again, like we have a
Speaker 6: permit to be there, we have you know, we get
Speaker 6: to go behind lock gates or whatever that people don't
Speaker 6: usually get to and you know, and just kind of
Speaker 6: go out and do our thing and you know, and
Speaker 6: just one of those like I'm getting paid for this.
Speaker 5: I remember were like ten thousand feet or something like
Speaker 5: that and just behind lock gates and just look at you.
Speaker 5: We're on the clock. Like look at this, like this
Speaker 5: is the most beautiful view in the world and we're
Speaker 5: on the clock.
Speaker 6: It was awesome, It was, it was it was super
Speaker 6: It's one of those like never forget it, and you know,
Speaker 6: I got to hang out there with you, Bobo.
Speaker 2: And it was it was, it was great. It was
Speaker 2: super good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a beautiful spot. I still look back
Speaker 4: like we were paid for that.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 1: The entire run of Finding Bigfoot holds so many treasured
Speaker 1: memories for all of us. And the fact that I
Speaker 1: got to go out with and Bobo, I think I'm
Speaker 1: speaking for you as well, got to go so many
Speaker 1: good friends and experience just the country, if not the world.
Speaker 2: And Tyler is a big part of that. Man.
Speaker 1: He saw us through a lot of stuff. He was
Speaker 1: right there when some of the best things happened on
Speaker 1: the show. He was integral and all of that. He
Speaker 1: was just just what an important piece of the Finding
Speaker 1: Bigfoot family. So thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: and sharing some of the memories with us about Finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: And thanks so much for just being a friend after
Speaker 1: all these years. I really love you, man, really do.
Speaker 6: Right back at your Cliff and Bobo, you know we
Speaker 6: were friends before the show. We're friends now, and you know,
Speaker 6: we got to share a lot of experiences, adventures highs
Speaker 6: Low's good weather, bad weather, you know, being out.
Speaker 2: In the woods and like whoa what we.
Speaker 6: Don't have any toilet paper, and you know, and you guys,
Speaker 6: you know, writing writing through with me, and you know
Speaker 6: it's it was amazing, It was amazing. It was one
Speaker 6: of the best best experiences I've ever had, easily the
Speaker 6: best job I've ever had, And if.
Speaker 2: It wasn't for you guys, it would have been hell.
Speaker 4: Right on, Tyler, that was good times.
Speaker 2: It was okay, Bo, just take us home, man.
Speaker 5: All right, Tyler, thanks for joining us, brother, that was
Speaker 5: a fun little reminiscence, and thanks for not throwing me
Speaker 5: under the bus. And so, folks, thanks for listening. We
Speaker 5: appreciate it. So yeah, I hit that like button, hit
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