Speaker 1: It's nice time.
Speaker 2: I'm going Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Dan Watkins, you broke my heart with that Red Sox score.
Speaker 1: I was so happy about the brewmin so happy about
Speaker 1: the Celtics and you had to add the Red Sorry
Speaker 1: about that, Dan, though, man, I mean you know, I
Speaker 1: mean just you know, if you admitted it, then some
Speaker 1: people might have gone to bed thinking we hit with
Speaker 1: three and oh tonight.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe, but hey, blame the weather.
Speaker 1: You're a journalist. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. I do understand.
Speaker 3: But it, oh man, it got me.
Speaker 1: It got me. Was Can you imagine playing baseball at
Speaker 1: Fenway Park tonight?
Speaker 3: I could not.
Speaker 4: Did you hear this stat According to Baseball Reference, the
Speaker 4: first pitch temperature of thirty five degrees the third coldest
Speaker 4: game in the history of Fenway Park?
Speaker 3: Whoa?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about it? That doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me. I remember being in an opening night and
Speaker 1: you can look this one up if you don't believe me.
Speaker 1: The Red Sox played the Yankees as their home opener.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I guess we're talking like maybe two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. Or something like that. It was March twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: It was one of the first times they played in March.
Speaker 1: It was like seventy two degrees at the first pitch
Speaker 1: at a halve o'clock at night.
Speaker 5: You can't beat that.
Speaker 1: No, no, oh, it was like the middle of June.
Speaker 1: It was like the middle of June. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: tough night tonight for the Red Sox. The bats went
Speaker 1: to sleep. I can understand that. Can you imagine every
Speaker 1: time you hit one off the end of the bat
Speaker 1: that's gonna sting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my hands were hurt and just watching them.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Dah, I appreciate it hanging there.
Speaker 1: All right, here we are at the eleven o'clock hour.
Speaker 3: We're not going to talk sports.
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to throw in a couple of topics here.
Speaker 1: We give you an opportunity to comment on them, and
Speaker 1: then I am going to go to what happened on
Speaker 1: Wall Street today, which again was a devastating day. But
Speaker 1: there's two news stories. One is out of New Hampshire, UH,
Speaker 1: fullm Governor Christiano has decided, not emphasized, not run for
Speaker 1: the United States Senate. Actually, I had spoken with full
Speaker 1: MC governor Sonunu a few weeks ago and he had
Speaker 1: been back in contact with President Trump.
Speaker 3: And the article that I'm reading today.
Speaker 1: Out of the guess this is in the New York Times,
Speaker 1: essentially says that Trump had kind of said given him,
Speaker 1: you know, his blessing, and that you know they were okay.
Speaker 1: You know, Christino had been a very independent Republican, supporting
Speaker 1: Nicky Hailey, and then you know he supported Trump at
Speaker 1: the end. My suspicion is that Christian Unhu is going
Speaker 1: to appear peer materialize on one of the major networks
Speaker 1: as a commentator. He's just too good a and quick
Speaker 1: and witty, almost too good for the US Senate. If
Speaker 1: you get my drift, he will be compensated better, I suspect.
Speaker 1: So we'll see that how that works out. Okay, but
Speaker 1: maybe we'll try to get governors Sonu on with us,
Speaker 1: former governors, so Unu, the younger former governess on with
Speaker 1: us before the end of the week to have him explain.
Speaker 1: He's basically saying it was family considerations. Remember, he had
Speaker 1: decided not to run for the Senate a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and he said he could not see himself
Speaker 1: going to Washington as a backbencher. So if you want
Speaker 1: to comment on, what would have I think been in
Speaker 1: a pickup for the Republicans in New Hampshire because the
Speaker 1: Democrats have a retiring Democratic senator up there in Jean Shaheen.
Speaker 1: New Hampshire is one of three states including Michigan and Minnesota,
Speaker 1: where incumbent Democrats are resigning, which gives Republicans it's easy
Speaker 1: to beat, it's tougher. Let me put this wway, it's
Speaker 1: tougher to beat it an incumbent than it is to
Speaker 1: beat someone who's a non incumbent. So those could be
Speaker 1: potential pickups. So far, according to the New York Times,
Speaker 1: no Republican senators who are up for re election and
Speaker 1: competitive states have announced their retirements as yet for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, So this will be Scott Brown apparently is
Speaker 1: going to run up in New Hampshire for a second time,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that works out. We certainly will
Speaker 1: cover that race for you and the other so you
Speaker 1: can comment of that if you'd like, whether you're from
Speaker 1: New Hampshire or not. And then the other story is
Speaker 1: that Boston City councilor Tanya Fernandez Anderson, one of the
Speaker 1: more progressive members of the City Council, has apparently pled
Speaker 1: guilty or will has agreed to plead guilty to federal
Speaker 1: in a federal corruption case against her. I think that
Speaker 1: I heard w v Z report tonight that as part
Speaker 1: of that guilt plea, she would agree to serve one
Speaker 1: year in a day in prison, and she's also agreed
Speaker 1: to resign her position on the Boston City Council. You know,
Speaker 1: there's some interesting city councilors right now. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of solid citizens in my opinion, on the Boston City Council,
Speaker 1: but the rest of it is, you know, the bunch
Speaker 1: Bolsheviks and uh, you know, you never wish wish ill
Speaker 1: on anyone, but city councilor Frinandez Anderson, you know, is
Speaker 1: not fighting this. She's resigning and also apparently accepting a
Speaker 1: plea deal.
Speaker 3: Which is probably a smart thing to do.
Speaker 1: And she must understand what the government case is and
Speaker 1: her lawyers, I'm sure she has good counsel. So if
Speaker 1: you want to comment on that, six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 1: ten thirty. And the issue that I think we'll talk
Speaker 1: about for the balance of the evening. Is the performance
Speaker 1: on Wall Street today? The markets opened this morning, the
Speaker 1: futures this morning said the market was going to the
Speaker 1: markets would rise, and they did rise. The Dow Jones
Speaker 1: was up fourteen hundred points around ten thirty this morning.
Speaker 1: There were similar, you know, three point four point percentage
Speaker 1: jumps with the Nasdaq and the S and P five hundred,
Speaker 1: and it looked as if this was a big recovery
Speaker 1: day on Wall Street. Well, apparently as the day went
Speaker 1: on there had been some hope that maybe there would
Speaker 1: be some agreements with other countries, and then there was
Speaker 1: a question whether or not the president would pause the
Speaker 1: imposition of the tariffs, and I think that I believe
Speaker 1: it was the Press secretary who the around two o'clock
Speaker 1: this afternoon said no, there's no way that these tariffs
Speaker 1: they're going to be imposed. And of course there is
Speaker 1: the the big reacting reaction tariff against China that goes
Speaker 1: into effect tonight, so that their tariffs get up to
Speaker 1: about one hundred and four percent. So the Dow, which
Speaker 1: was up fourteen hundred, ended down three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: eight something like that. And now the futures for tomorrow
Speaker 1: suggest it's going to go down another four hundred or
Speaker 1: open another four hundred down. The S and P is
Speaker 1: expected to open at least one percent down and the
Speaker 1: Nasdaq one percent down. This this will be four days
Speaker 1: in a row.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: That the the the big you know three stock entices
Speaker 1: have gone down. So my question to you, and we
Speaker 1: had some really good calls last night. I hope that
Speaker 1: we can replicate that tonight six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four thirty six one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: When does this end? Or to put another way, how
Speaker 1: far where's bottom? Where's bottom?
Speaker 3: Uh? Is bottom for the Dow thirty five thousand?
Speaker 1: Is it lower than thirty five thousand?
Speaker 3: Uh? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: You holding on or did you call your broker and
Speaker 1: say sell as much as you can? Or have you
Speaker 1: hit the panic button? I hope you don't hit the
Speaker 1: panic button. I'm not a broker, I don't give the
Speaker 1: I'm not giving advice on air, but I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear what all of you think about this. And Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago he had the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Dodgers came by to the White House for a visit,
Speaker 1: which you know he liked. And then today he was
Speaker 1: doing something with coal, and he must have spoke for
Speaker 1: an hour, and I got to tell you it was
Speaker 1: very repetitive. It didn't inspire. You know, it's like, everything's fine,
Speaker 1: We're doing fine. This is fine, this is brilliant, this
Speaker 1: is fine. And you know it's like, really really, I
Speaker 1: love to hear. I mean, he's he's got so many
Speaker 1: balls in the air. He above all should understand what
Speaker 1: this does to the economy. So today, when you think
Speaker 1: about it, the Dow was up fourteen hundred and it
Speaker 1: ends down three hundred, So in effect it it had
Speaker 1: a seventeen hundred point swing today. And you can tell me, well,
Speaker 1: that's not a lot. Let me tell you something that's
Speaker 1: a big swing. It's a big fit in terms of numbers,
Speaker 1: and it's a big swing in terms of percentage. So
Speaker 1: do you still have confidence confidence in the president or
Speaker 1: or has he gone a little too far on this
Speaker 1: policy and he's dug himself a hole? And what do
Speaker 1: they say when you're digging yourself a hole? At some
Speaker 1: point you got to stop digging six one seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it till till midnight. We
Speaker 1: got about forty minutes left. Feel free to join the
Speaker 1: conversation whatever your point of view.
Speaker 2: Nice side with.
Speaker 6: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: All right, So, if you have actually either jumped back
Speaker 1: into the market and saw today as a buying opportunity,
Speaker 1: love to hear about that.
Speaker 3: If you have.
Speaker 1: Decided that it's time and you just don't have the
Speaker 1: stomach for it. Uh, And I don't know, I would
Speaker 1: love to know. I'm beginning to believe that the market
Speaker 1: is being manipulated a little bit, and I think that
Speaker 1: what worries me is that there might be people who
Speaker 1: are intentionally saying, Okay, I'm going to sell and I'm
Speaker 1: going to take a hit because it would be good
Speaker 1: for maybe the country, or good for the point of
Speaker 1: view that I believe in. I mean, the market should
Speaker 1: be separate from politics. The market should be a place
Speaker 1: where the value of the company determines the price of
Speaker 1: the company. It should You should not root against the
Speaker 1: stock market or against prosperity for everyone based upon your
Speaker 1: political allegiance. Now, I thought that today when Bill Ackman
Speaker 1: made his comments. This guy's a billionaire, and he was
Speaker 1: very supportive of Donald Trump during the election season. His
Speaker 1: voice matters, in my opinion, so than someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: like Trump. But there are people out there on shore
Speaker 1: who are looking at this purely from a political point
Speaker 1: of view, which is understandable, but I'm not sure that
Speaker 1: that's healthy. So I ask you to join the conversation.
Speaker 1: Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty. Are you still convinced that
Speaker 1: tariffs are what we need? I don't think President Trump
Speaker 1: has the inclination or frankly, has the flexibility to back
Speaker 1: off at this point. There's no way that he can say, look,
Speaker 1: there was a big these big, beautiful tariffs, This beautiful
Speaker 1: word didn't work. He's got to stick with this. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have a choice. He does not have a choice.
Speaker 1: I would love to ask some of you what should
Speaker 1: he do? Okay, So those are the questions you have,
Speaker 1: the answers you got the self, you got the number
Speaker 1: six one seven, two thirty, six one, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Paul in Dorchester, Paul Ugly Day
Speaker 1: on Wall Street. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 6: And I agree with your premise that we are being
Speaker 6: manipulated by the media. We are not hearing any good
Speaker 6: news about uh, the progress we're making against the hooties
Speaker 6: and and every other front that we're working on. Uh,
Speaker 6: are you here now? The market is based on greed
Speaker 6: and fear. Now evidence of that is, oh something's bad.
Speaker 6: Oh everybody runs out of the market, then oh something
Speaker 6: is good. Nine hundred point rush today. Okay, people, those
Speaker 6: companies did not suddenly change their books and and their
Speaker 6: income and their outgoing. Nothing changed with those companies in
Speaker 6: the amount of time except the misinformation that we're getting.
Speaker 6: And and that's all they They're playing on people's fear
Speaker 6: and greed and the media. Just do you remember how
Speaker 6: there was a bouch of kids that got together and
Speaker 6: they were manipulating stocks and they built some of these
Speaker 6: hedge fund people out of money just by just by uh,
Speaker 6: by putting fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that you were well, I
Speaker 1: think that you were talking was that the Robin Hood
Speaker 1: uh market about a year or so ago, where this
Speaker 1: stock had no substance to it whatsoever.
Speaker 7: Uh, And and yet it went through the roof. And
Speaker 7: that was the idea of well, this is a hot stock.
Speaker 7: It's it's let's you know, let's let's jump on this.
Speaker 7: What does it make I don't care. It's going up, right.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no underlying substance to the
Speaker 1: to the stock, and yet it's going up.
Speaker 6: And we we need to allow President Trump this is
Speaker 6: the art of the this. He has to put out
Speaker 6: a second edition of that book so people can read it.
Speaker 6: Apparently it was nineteen seventy eight or something was too
Speaker 6: long ago for people. Whatever, But this is a manipulation
Speaker 6: of two hundred and fifty years. We've been getting screwed.
Speaker 6: They've been stealing our lunch money, and we're coming home
Speaker 6: with black eyes, and you know, and suddenly Papa Bear saying, hey,
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna punch us in the eye. We're
Speaker 6: gonna punch you back after a while. Well, they've been
Speaker 6: digging this hole. All these politicians have been giving money away,
Speaker 6: giving money away, and it's our money, and it's this
Speaker 6: makes no sense. When you go into a store, you know,
Speaker 6: they if you had a cover charge at two hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty bucks, you know, are you gonna go in
Speaker 6: that store?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: Maybe not, because you can go buy two hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty bucks or something somewhere else. And that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: Necessity is the mother of invention. You know, before these
Speaker 6: people were having their game boards made overseas, these game
Speaker 6: boards were made over here. And suddenly they feel they
Speaker 6: realized that child labor and the exploitation of people in
Speaker 6: other countries could get their game boards the cheaper. And
Speaker 6: that's what's happening. It's it's worth paying a little bit
Speaker 6: more for something made in America by people that are
Speaker 6: working under humane conditions. And and it's and and and
Speaker 6: where is all their goodness of of of like they
Speaker 6: were putting all the Hollywood actors down for a while
Speaker 6: because who was having their stuff made in one country
Speaker 6: or another? And uh, and they realized what was happening
Speaker 6: in these sweatshops. And you got little kids, yeah, that
Speaker 6: are working so they can have cheap game boards and
Speaker 6: they can stay there.
Speaker 1: Someone the other night talked about, you know, they can't
Speaker 1: sign game boards, and I said, what do you mean
Speaker 1: by game boards? And they said, well, checker boards. You know, look,
Speaker 1: if we have to go a few years without a checkerboard,
Speaker 1: you can make a checkerboard. I mean, it's you get it.
Speaker 1: You can well, nobody can make them, but you can
Speaker 1: make them, Paul, if you and I want to play checkers.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can. You can.
Speaker 1: Literally, it'll take you maybe twenty minutes max.
Speaker 3: To make a checkerboard.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's as simple as that, you know, and
Speaker 1: you filler in some of the cases black, some of
Speaker 1: the cases some of the space is white.
Speaker 3: You know, you you know what, it's checkerboard. That's that's that.
Speaker 3: That is crazy if they're going to say that.
Speaker 1: What this is about, in my opinion, is getting manufacturing
Speaker 1: back to America now. Immediately, there were a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are cynical who were saying, well, how long
Speaker 1: is are going to take to build factories. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long it's going to take to build factories,
Speaker 1: but I assume it can. They can be built if
Speaker 1: a company really wants wants to build factories pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of factories that have been abandoned,
Speaker 1: the buildings that they're just gonna get a quick been in.
Speaker 6: Look, as soon as they start building factories, they're going
Speaker 6: to be employing electricians and corperences and all kinds of
Speaker 6: people that build those new plants. They realize how much
Speaker 6: it's coming back to this country already. I mean we're
Speaker 6: talking I think the white House reporter girl there was saying,
Speaker 6: seventy countries contacted us to me, right.
Speaker 1: But the difference, here's the difference, Paul. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: I am substantially in agreement with you and a number
Speaker 1: of the points you made.
Speaker 3: But here's the difference.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has always spoken in these grandiose terms, okay,
Speaker 1: And the same problem they have with the immigration at
Speaker 1: this point, they're pulling people off the street. Pull people
Speaker 1: off the street if you think they're a danger, But
Speaker 1: tell us why they're a danger. Don't just pull people
Speaker 1: off the street and put them on an airplane and
Speaker 1: fly them to Louisiana. That's crazy, Okay. They you gotta
Speaker 1: support actually what you do, because at some point in time,
Speaker 1: you know, guys like you who are with Donald Trump
Speaker 1: all the way are always gonna give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt. But the average American in the middle,
Speaker 1: the one who decided that they would take him over Harris,
Speaker 1: they're saying, well, why are you you know, well, what
Speaker 1: did this woman, what did this Turkish woman do? She
Speaker 1: wrote an article for a college newspaper. Show us something,
Speaker 1: Show us something. And the same way here when they
Speaker 1: say we have we have fifty countries, seventy countries who
Speaker 1: have told us they want to make a deal. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about that. I'm worried about show me the company,
Speaker 1: show me the countries when the deals are made, and
Speaker 1: what are the implications of the deal. Paul, I hate
Speaker 1: to do this to you, man, because.
Speaker 6: It's gonna take some time. This is a hole they've
Speaker 6: done for the last two hundred years. Okay, it's gonna
Speaker 6: take time to fill that hole in. You know, you
Speaker 6: got to shovel it back in.
Speaker 1: Got that.
Speaker 3: I got you on that.
Speaker 1: All I'm just saying is that he is spending political
Speaker 1: capital that he had when he was inaugurated on January twentieth.
Speaker 1: He was flush with political capital. He has spent and
Speaker 1: spent and spent that political capital, and until we start
Speaker 1: to see some results, that political capital is going to
Speaker 1: keep going out of his pocket and at some point
Speaker 1: he's going to say, where's the rest of my political capital?
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Too bad we can't get any support from the demon
Speaker 6: rats at all.
Speaker 3: Well, you know.
Speaker 1: That doesn't that's not you know, name calling like that
Speaker 1: doesn't help. But anyway, Paul, look, I appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Take negative negative negative. Why don't they spend a little
Speaker 6: bit of energy on at least you know, they told
Speaker 6: us he like.
Speaker 1: Paul, you don't have a heart attack, Paul, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to have a heart attack.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: They don't want to help us. Get out of the way,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 1: Paul, do me a favor. Sit back and relax. Okay,
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be okay, We're gonna be okay. But I
Speaker 1: appre I love your passion, and I thank you for
Speaker 1: the call. But I got to let you go because
Speaker 1: they got the news coming at me. Okay, Thanks, Paul,
Speaker 1: appreciate your call. Thanks, have a good one.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Six one seven, two five four ten thirty six one
Speaker 1: seven ninety. I want to hear from you on this.
Speaker 1: I you know, let's be intelligent here and what what
Speaker 1: has to happen to turn this around? I mean, where
Speaker 1: does you know?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 1: I think that there is some you know, Paul used
Speaker 1: a kind of a tough term. I think that some
Speaker 1: Democrats are sitting back and saying, we told you so
Speaker 1: here you are, here you are. I think you got
Speaker 1: to start seeing some results. And I think that the
Speaker 1: White House there's even some into mural warfare.
Speaker 3: Going on.
Speaker 1: I guess one of the networks tonight reported that uh,
Speaker 1: musk uh, you know President Trump's you know, most important
Speaker 1: ally called Peter Davarro, President's trade advisor, a nasty word
Speaker 1: and that begins with M, which you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: use in polite company, but questioned his intelligence. Let's put
Speaker 1: it like that. If I'm a Democrat, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: that and I'm loving that. I'm saying, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: in the inner circle, Uh, they're going to turn it
Speaker 1: into a firing squad. Six one seven two thirty six
Speaker 1: one seven thirty. Come on, people, let's go. Let's get
Speaker 1: it go. We're going to talk till midnight. Join the conversation.
Speaker 1: Back on night Side. You're on night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. All right, back, we
Speaker 1: go to the phones. It's interesting. Everybody's kind of quiet tonight,
Speaker 1: and I wonder why, Okay, I got wide open lines
Speaker 1: six four thirty six one seven. I hate to say that,
Speaker 1: but if you've lost faith in your president, feel free
Speaker 1: to join the conversation. If you still have faith in him,
Speaker 1: feel free. But it looks as if we're going to
Speaker 1: have the fifth day of a stock market meltdown tomorrow
Speaker 1: thanks to the to the tariffs. Now, if you I
Speaker 1: like Paul from Dorchester and you're gonna hang tough, don't
Speaker 1: be quiet.
Speaker 3: Here comes Bill in Pennsylvania. Hate Bill. How are you welcome?
Speaker 8: Good Dan?
Speaker 4: How are you doing well?
Speaker 1: I'm doing better than the stock market, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Hey, I bail. I bailed in the stock market in
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight after losing my butt. But listen,
Speaker 4: I think, uh, I think that people are discounting all
Speaker 4: the political uh capital that this president has got by
Speaker 4: uh shutting this border down. I think the border. I
Speaker 4: think the border was a bigger, a bigger thing that
Speaker 4: than people think.
Speaker 2: I don't see.
Speaker 4: Anybody running around here with their hair on fire about
Speaker 4: the stock market because I think everybody knows in the
Speaker 4: back of their heads, Dan, that that Trump is controlling everything.
Speaker 4: And when he says the time is up okay, and
Speaker 4: we're gonna put things back together, then then he'll do it.
Speaker 4: And I think the whole the whole process is to
Speaker 4: break the back of the Chinese.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, but but here's the deal, Okay,
Speaker 1: you had the Chinese today this reports, by the way,
Speaker 1: which I haven't even mentioned that over in Ukraine. Ukraine
Speaker 1: has captured some Chinese soldiers, not North Korean soldiers, Chinese soldiers.
Speaker 1: So if, if, if, if, the Chinese government has allowed
Speaker 1: some of the military members to go fight alongside Russians
Speaker 1: in China. That's an interesting development, if you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And this is like a whole big world,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking. There was an article in the Globe
Speaker 1: today which I thought was really interesting that the number
Speaker 1: of factories that have been built in China in the
Speaker 1: last few years are outstripping the number of factories that
Speaker 1: are being built built in the United States. I mean,
Speaker 1: we may have to take some tough medicine here, I am.
Speaker 1: I would be more impressed if President Trump as opposed
Speaker 1: to giving me you know, we're about to enter the
Speaker 1: Golden age speech. I've heard that speech. That doesn't do
Speaker 1: it for me. Tell me the truth. I can handle
Speaker 1: the truth. Tell me how bad it's going to be, okay,
Speaker 1: and tell me what's what the benefit of that is.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's articulated that yet, was it?
Speaker 4: The American public had had all this patience for all
Speaker 4: these endless wars. Okay, ten years here, fifteen years there,
Speaker 4: twenty years here, and now, Okay, what a lot of
Speaker 4: people understand that this is gonna take. I heard, I
Speaker 4: heard steel workers, I heard still people on here, auto
Speaker 4: workers on talking about how these tariffs are gonna work
Speaker 4: if we just are patient. And this is the this
Speaker 4: used to be the backbone of the Democratic Party telling
Speaker 4: us that.
Speaker 1: Dan, you know that I understand that, and I think
Speaker 1: that that is the bottom line is. I think you
Speaker 1: need to level with the American people. It's like if
Speaker 1: you go to your doctor, okay, and if your doctor
Speaker 1: says to you, oh, you're gonna be fine. You're going
Speaker 1: to be fine. You know, you're gotta kind of stay
Speaker 1: in bed for a couple of days and take an
Speaker 1: as forn or two, and you know, two or three
Speaker 1: days from now, you be fine. Two or three days
Speaker 1: from now, you're worse.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You feel like you feel worse than you did two
Speaker 1: days ago. And you go back and the doctor says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: one more day, one more day, and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Here's some some meds.
Speaker 1: Take take these, take this prescription or whatever, and nothing happens.
Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna change your doctor.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, But I think you know I'm out here,
Speaker 4: and I'm out here in the uh in the uh
Speaker 4: well we used to call the boon docks, yeah.
Speaker 1: And we probably still do call it the boonies.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: In the countryside of Pennsylvania. And honestly, I'll tell you
Speaker 4: people out here trust Trump, okay, because okay, alls we
Speaker 4: heard for four years was I can't do this, I
Speaker 4: can't do that. I can't Every time we turn the
Speaker 4: TV on, we see these caravans and they're telling us
Speaker 4: that the that the borders closed.
Speaker 3: No, no, I.
Speaker 1: Totally look Bill, Bill, you've listened to me for a
Speaker 1: long time. Okay, I think you know that I agree
Speaker 1: with you on that. Okay, But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: when and I don't mean to interrupt you, and I apologize,
Speaker 1: but when he started talking about we're entering the Golden
Speaker 1: Age of America, this is the age and all of that,
Speaker 1: and uses that flamboyant language, and then you see the
Speaker 1: stock market drop, you know, ten percent in like four days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are impacted by that.
Speaker 1: Maybe you aren't. By the way, when you get out
Speaker 1: of the stock market in two thousand and eight, if
Speaker 1: you had stated the stock market bill, yeah, you would
Speaker 1: have more than made back what you might have lost
Speaker 1: temporarily in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: You know that, right, You're right. But I don't have
Speaker 4: the nerves for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: No, and there's a lot of other Americans who don't
Speaker 1: have the nerve. That's the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 1: You made my point for me. All I'm just saying
Speaker 1: is that that he should be small enough, his team
Speaker 1: should be small enough to say, hey, we got to
Speaker 1: do something here.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, well, let me let me just
Speaker 4: make a couple more points thence Okay, Okay, he's got
Speaker 4: some significant wins here with the Supreme Court. Okay. That's
Speaker 4: one thing, all right. The other thing is I got
Speaker 4: a neighbor that just drives it drives me nuts, all right.
Speaker 4: He's he's a big lib and his wife's a big lib.
Speaker 4: She's even worse than he is, all right, because they're
Speaker 4: always this and that about Trump. But okay, they come
Speaker 4: over here and they say to me like this. They'll say,
Speaker 4: they'll say, look at Europe. Look at the people in
Speaker 4: Europe get to go to school. From from kindergarten right
Speaker 4: on through a PhD. And they don't have to pay
Speaker 4: for a thing. And I look at him, I say,
Speaker 4: in my in my mind, I'm thinking, what's wrong with
Speaker 4: these two?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Don't they realize that in Europe? Okay, they can have
Speaker 4: all that free stuff because we're we're taking care of
Speaker 4: all the defense for them. Ever since World War Two,
Speaker 4: we completely rebuilt Germany, we completely rebuilt we all.
Speaker 1: We agree with you on that absolutely, But but do
Speaker 1: you think, let me ask you this, do you think
Speaker 1: that that they're going to turn around and at some
Speaker 1: point have like a moment of clarity and they're going
Speaker 1: to say, you know, maybe Trump's right, that voter is gone,
Speaker 1: that voter's gone, that voter's never coming back.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And the people like you and Paul from Dorchester who
Speaker 1: are with him, God love you.
Speaker 3: You're staying with him.
Speaker 1: But he's going to lose the middle so quickly if
Speaker 1: he doesn't come. And you talk about he said great court,
Speaker 1: uh wins. Let me tell you it's it's a battle
Speaker 1: in these courts. Okay, it is a battle in these courts.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he's done some he's.
Speaker 1: Had some successes, but people vote with their pocketbook, and
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have people around him tonight who was saying,
Speaker 1: mister president, this is a big problem that got bigger
Speaker 1: today and deeper today, and it got to it has
Speaker 1: to be addressed. I mean, he's got it, you know,
Speaker 1: that's it, because once you lose them, they never come back.
Speaker 1: They never come back. I agree with Dan, Bill, Bill,
Speaker 1: I'm up on my break. I love your calls. I
Speaker 1: love your loyalty, just like you know, Paul, And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you something that you don't want to hear. And
Speaker 1: I do appreciate your being Willem Grison to that.
Speaker 4: And America is gonna give this guy at least four
Speaker 4: or five months that's always gonna need and this will
Speaker 4: be right back on top.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what when that happens tonight, it's April, Tonight, May, June, July, August, September.
Speaker 1: When you call me, well, you'll call me back many
Speaker 1: times between now and then. I hope it in September fifteenth.
Speaker 1: If that's true, I want you to call back and say, Dan,
Speaker 1: I told you four or five months ago.
Speaker 3: Here we are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Dan, thank.
Speaker 3: You, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 1: We'll talk later, all right, let's keep rolling here six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three thirty. I
Speaker 1: got to say to Paul and to Bill, you guys
Speaker 1: had the guts to call and take this on tonight,
Speaker 1: Uh and use it.
Speaker 3: Theres some credit for that. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there sitting tonight and
Speaker 1: they're scared. They're not calling the show. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Nightside after this. You're on night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray on Boston's news radio. Back to the phones we go.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Gary and Ruber and Gary next
Speaker 1: on night Sagara.
Speaker 3: Gary, you're up.
Speaker 2: Too deep for me, too deep on Wall Street. Stuff
Speaker 2: like that. The last call hit the head on the nail.
Speaker 2: Give it some time. But if obviously it doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: His advisor to say, President, we got to do a
Speaker 2: switch share. He says, you're right, okay, blank blank. But
Speaker 2: one thing I want to say, because you got too
Speaker 2: many calls, what would we rather have running this country? Trump? Obiden,
Speaker 2: we only know Trump. But my question is to you, Dan,
Speaker 2: why is everybody out there protesting against Trump? Right now?
Speaker 2: I know about the education cutoffs and all that, right,
Speaker 2: but my question is, were it with everybody when the
Speaker 2: country is fallowing apart, especially with Femur Carolina and California
Speaker 2: and so far that money was the play that with
Speaker 2: no money's are why was everybody? Why was the healthier protesting?
Speaker 3: Because because because.
Speaker 1: Look the people who were protesting, the people fifty percent
Speaker 1: of this country voted for Harris for president. It wasn't
Speaker 1: quite fifty. It was like forty nine something, and Trump
Speaker 1: got about fifty points something. It's we're an equally divided country.
Speaker 1: And the Democrats were flat on their back and Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: with this tariff situation, has allowed the Democrats to rise
Speaker 1: from the ashes. Man, that's all I'm saying. That's all.
Speaker 2: So that's the answer. It doesn't make any sense, right.
Speaker 1: Well it well it makes sense to them. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like a It's it's like a football game. You know,
Speaker 1: you you're ahead of twenty one and nothing at halftime,
Speaker 1: and you go out and you kick off and they
Speaker 1: run it back for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Now it's twenty one to seven.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then you get the ball in your half
Speaker 1: back fumbles and they run it in and in about
Speaker 1: two mins and it's it's twenty one fourteen, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden the whole momentum swings and switches, and
Speaker 1: now you know, you're back on your heels.
Speaker 3: He's on his heels right now. He's talking about the
Speaker 3: Golden age. Is the golden age?
Speaker 1: When you see the stock market dump ten percent billion,
Speaker 1: you know, trillions of dollars in value, I don't, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean, did he You know, it's one
Speaker 1: thing to say that to the American people. Look, you know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little you know, it's gonna get
Speaker 1: a little bumpy or something like that. A little bumpy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you lose you know, one percent percent. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like saying to some people, yeah, we may have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a bumpy ride and the plane ends
Speaker 1: up crashing. That's you know, it's just you know, expectations.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, be honest with the American people.
Speaker 1: Talk to the American people. Don't just sit there and
Speaker 1: go on and on and on and it's wonderful and beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's the Golden Age. People don't get sick of that
Speaker 1: rhetoric real quickly. And I'm not talking about the people
Speaker 1: on the far left who don't like him. People in
Speaker 1: the middle are going to say you know what, I've
Speaker 1: had enough of this guy.
Speaker 3: He's a gasbag.
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree you should be saying it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a rough ride the way it's going to go in
Speaker 2: the next few months to the American people. I absolutely agree.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's being yourself flamboyant about it,
Speaker 2: but I can tell by advice you would rather have
Speaker 2: him than Biden. I thank you for your time, though.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. You read my voice correctly. Thanks Gary. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, gonna go real quickly here. Now this is
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of speak as all of a sudden
Speaker 1: the phone lines filled up. Don in Belmont, Don, next on, Nice,
Speaker 1: I go it.
Speaker 8: Ahead, O Dann, Hi, thanks thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
Speaker 1: I want to We're all a little late here, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to give everybody just a little
Speaker 1: bit of time.
Speaker 3: Whatever's on your mind.
Speaker 8: Go okay. I want you to correct me and tell
Speaker 8: and tell me if I'm wrong here. The time is
Speaker 8: when the shipper lands at the dark YEP federal agent
Speaker 8: takes the money for the tariff for the value of
Speaker 8: the goods. The people selling the goods want their money back,
Speaker 8: so when the item is in the store, the prices
Speaker 8: are raised to get their money back. Correct, absolutely, Where
Speaker 8: is the profit made?
Speaker 1: Where is the profit made? Well, the profit is made
Speaker 1: by the government that collects the tariff from the person
Speaker 1: that receives the goods, and then the money stays with
Speaker 1: the with the government. That's in effect attacks that goes
Speaker 1: into into the federal treasury.
Speaker 3: Uh. And it may do that.
Speaker 1: It may bring the federal federal debt down, which is
Speaker 1: a good thing, but then that cost is going to
Speaker 1: be passed on. So when you buy a new car,
Speaker 1: instead of costing you fifty thousand dollars to thirty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you five thousand and six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars more. That's that's the money and that's going you know,
Speaker 1: out of your pocket, you know, through through through the
Speaker 1: the the car company that you buy the car from,
Speaker 1: into the federal treasury.
Speaker 8: Fair enough, It's just I understand that. I understand the concept.
Speaker 8: You know, the money's paid to the for the treasury.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the.
Speaker 8: Guy is stoling the goods, say the car or the
Speaker 8: TV sets that come in from China. Oh, I had
Speaker 8: to pay a tariff, so target and the work wherever.
Speaker 1: He passes that, he passes that on to you and me.
Speaker 8: Right, so we're paying that out. Yes, where is where
Speaker 8: is the economic gain on both? The government gets their tariff,
Speaker 8: that's it, their money in the treasury. We're out money
Speaker 8: the consumer.
Speaker 3: That's it. Correct, that's it. Wow, all right, don I
Speaker 3: gotta keep rolling here.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks man, I gotta keep rolling all right, man,
Speaker 1: thank you much, thank you much. Quickly Jeff and Whitman.
Speaker 1: Jeff next on night Saga right ahead.
Speaker 5: So few quick things. One analyst was saying, with the
Speaker 5: stock market, what we're seeing is the really big rollers
Speaker 5: buying and selling because of all the changes in the news.
Speaker 5: And you could see that today when China made their thing,
Speaker 5: there was a big sell off.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: So you have all the hedge front guys, you have
Speaker 5: all the big billionaires selling the money. They said. The
Speaker 5: majority of the average guys only make up probably about
Speaker 5: ten to maybe fifteen percent of the market. So that,
Speaker 5: I mean it still hurts us little guys.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: Thing is the big thing with people yep. Now, the
Speaker 5: big thing that I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 5: talk about is almost half the country does not work.
Speaker 5: When we were in COVID, it was the first time
Speaker 5: we went over fifty percent of people were either on services.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: But you're absolutely Jeff, You're absolutely correct.
Speaker 3: But a lot of those people don't work.
Speaker 1: They still have money that they have to spend, whether
Speaker 1: it's so security or whatever. You know, you could say
Speaker 1: half the country doesn't work. However, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who have retired, who have worked their years and
Speaker 1: now they're in retirement and and the money that they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna lose.
Speaker 5: What I'm but what I'm getting at, Yeah, what I'm
Speaker 5: getting at is that's why there's people leaning towards hands
Speaker 5: off protesting, never mind the people that got paid to
Speaker 5: be at hands off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well again, I'm not worried about the protesters. The
Speaker 1: protesters aren't gonna are never gonna like Trump. Okay, we
Speaker 1: know that. I'm What I'm saying is that that he's
Speaker 1: spending political capital at a rate that it's that's unsustainable. Jeff,
Speaker 1: Let me keep rolling here. I want to get one
Speaker 1: more reason.
Speaker 2: Yep, let me give it.
Speaker 1: Please call early and give you more time. Okay, thank
Speaker 1: you much. Last call of the night, Tim in North Carolina. Tim,
Speaker 1: I got maybe thirty seconds for you. I got you
Speaker 1: in late go ahead.
Speaker 6: Tim Okay.
Speaker 9: So I made forty thousand last year example boom. Now
Speaker 9: I make a one hundred thousand because I got some
Speaker 9: tip Jerry Job and the government under Bible right, and
Speaker 9: now I'm getting laid off by Elon Musk sixty thousand
Speaker 9: increase that I made, I invested. Guess what now I'm.
Speaker 4: Having to dump it.
Speaker 9: Therefore, they've played the economy, and they've played this dog market,
Speaker 9: and they've played at the unemployment rate because Jeburary jobs boom.
Speaker 3: Game.
Speaker 4: Ever, there's your, there's your.
Speaker 1: Don't don't sell, don't don't panic, don't sell. Okay, don't
Speaker 1: it'll come back. It'll come back, believe me.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's be repeat itself.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, History does repeat it So thanks. Thanks to
Speaker 1: the callers who are on the line.
Speaker 3: Should have called earlier. Done for the night.
Speaker 1: Everybody, apologize, appreciate to take you the time to call,
Speaker 1: but we're out of time. I want to thank Rob,
Speaker 1: want to thank Marita, want to thank everyone who called,
Speaker 1: whether he got on or off. Want to thank everyone
Speaker 1: who listened. I'll be on Facebook. Nice that with Dan
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