WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus Quice, you better Hello, hit the boddy out here? 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:06.879 What quin I'm out there? I thought of a bitch 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.480 about tech forty nine. I don't know. Easy ann ount there, Yeah, 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.239 I'm working right. 18 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:12.920 Hey, uh all right, folks. 19 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.280 I want to welcome LEVI back to the show for 20 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:17.680 round two from Missouri. 21 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:18.439 What's going on? Man? 22 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:20.359 Hey, how's it going? Glad to be back? 23 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:22.680 I am good. I am glad to have you back. 24 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.840 You're here to talk about some of the things we 25 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.680 didn't get into on your last visit to the show 26 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:32.799 some of the weirder stranger experiences. I've had UFO experiences. 27 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.799 I've had experiences multiple times with what I believe to 28 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:37.359 be alien craft. 29 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:39.400 I know that is your forte. 30 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.920 Why don't we talk a little bit about your experiences 31 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.719 with UFOs ufology and get into some of the weirder 32 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.359 things that we didn't get into last time. 33 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.400 Yeah. Sure, there's a lot to go around, not just 34 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:55.000 from Missouri. It's a pretty wild phenomenon. I run what's 35 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:59.480 called the North American Research Center of pera Ufology. The 36 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.640 term pairuthology is a term that's not really used now. 37 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:08.639 It's parken back to the older thought of what UFOs 38 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.400 are and what the phenomena is. But the term pairuthology 39 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.479 is great because it's not just focusing on UFOs or 40 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.199 UAPs or whatever people want to call them. It has 41 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:25.240 this ideology of all of the stuff is intertwined versus 42 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.439 just separate cells of phenomena and through research, not just 43 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.240 reading listening to interviews from geez at this point, all 44 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.039 the way back to the forties up until stuff that happens. 45 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.199 Something could come out today and I'll read the report 46 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.800 and be like, Okay, I've definitely started to notice that 47 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.759 the thought of everything being connected is much more likely 48 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:52.520 than I think people really understand or want to accept 49 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:56.159 or believe. You hear of people having bigfoot stuff happen 50 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:00.000 and then they see a craft or forbes or whatever. 51 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.240 And we touched on that stuff a little earlier in 52 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:08.319 the last interview, but for me it was starting narcop 53 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.719 as what we call it, was a way to focus 54 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.759 on everything without focusing on everything individually. I personally don't 55 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:18.360 think it's really beneficial to just focus on one thing 56 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:22.199 because there's much cross evidence, and it's not just from reports. 57 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:25.479 There's a lot of hard packed data that you can 58 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:30.120 see between some of the BFRO the log on their 59 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.479 website or the Bigfoot Mapping project. If you backtrace and 60 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:39.639 you start to cross reference UFO activity with bigfoot or 61 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:42.960 sasquatch activity or orb activity or whatever the case may be, 62 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:45.960 you start to see that there's usually as little as 63 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.000 a couple hours to a seven to fourteen days, well 64 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.639 basically two weeks, there's a spur of of encounters that 65 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:57.000 are happening from everything. It's not just I saw UFO 66 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:01.120 and then I saw a bigfoot. It's one twenty minute 67 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:03.960 drive down the road from you might have a totally 68 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.680 different experience, but it's very close timeline wise. I built 69 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:11.840 this pretty ridiculous graph that overlays everything. It's wild too, 70 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.400 because historically Missouri, for sure has the UFO flap of 71 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.720 the seventies from the Piedmont area, and there were a 72 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.680 lot of reports. You drop a pin fifty miles, there's 73 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.120 a lot of reports that came around the same time. 74 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.439 That was a very huge, long term lap. Yeah, looking 75 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:32.920 at everything as one hole under the term paer uphology, 76 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:37.000 and then also trying to become what people consider a 77 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:41.000 tray evenance expert, going to sites and seeing soil compaction 78 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.000 and very odd burn marks on the ground that only 79 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.519 affected an inch of the grass. There's no depress, foliage 80 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.279 or anything around. Just trying to go out and see 81 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.439 stuff and categorize and log all of this to try 82 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.279 to have it potentially makes sense. It will It never 83 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.519 makes sense, but it's beneficial to look at everything try 84 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:05.279 to pile it in and be like, oh, okay, yeah, 85 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.560 these are happening here. This is happening here, this stuff 86 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:08.399 is happening here. 87 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:09.160 Yeah. 88 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:10.920 I don't know if you have any questions on that, 89 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.680 or we can just go straight in. 90 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.720 Before we dive right in. That's one of the things 91 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.920 that the longer I've been in this subject, and for me, 92 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:23.759 I'm saying Bigfoot is the subject that I'm primarily into. 93 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:28.639 I thought that everything was separate, right I started interviewing 94 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:30.639 folks and I would hear them say, there was these 95 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.879 strange lights, or we saw craft over our property. Then 96 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.879 the next day we saw a sasquatch. I was always 97 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.959 putting those things into boxes, going and that's really weird 98 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.879 that you've got these weird lights. But I want to 99 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:47.240 talk about the bigfoot stuff, and I didn't correlate the two. 100 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.000 I started interviewing a couple of people. 101 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:52.360 Talking about UFOs. We talked about it offline. 102 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.000 I've had a couple of UFO experiences in my life, 103 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:57.839 and I've always been very interested in the subject. But 104 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:02.439 to me, sasquatch has always been a flesh and blood creature, 105 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:07.519 some sort of undiscovered relict, thomannoid haminan that had nothing 106 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:11.079 to do with anything flying around in the sky. Outside 107 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.279 of some of these experiences that I've had where I've 108 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.519 interviewed folks and they've said, hey, I interviewed one gentleman 109 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.120 who said he saw a landed craft and saw a 110 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.920 sasquatch either coming off of or going on to, or 111 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.879 in very close proximity too, said craft it was an 112 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.879 alien craft that this thing was coming and going from. 113 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.759 That's a pretty direct correlation with what. 114 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:35.720 People would consider to be a UFO UAP alien technology 115 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.600 and Bigfoot at the same time. The more that I've 116 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.480 had these conversations with people, Preston Dinnett, I've talked to 117 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.319 Preston many times. I've had him on the show multiple times. 118 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.920 Preston has always said to me, Brian, everything is connected, 119 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:52.240 and it took me a long time to break out 120 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.040 of that paradigm that I was stuck in to say, 121 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:58.199 you know what, you might be right. I'm still not 122 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.720 completely there, but I am open and willing to listen 123 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.439 to anybody's theories on this, because if you're not looking 124 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.240 down multiple paths and you just get in this. 125 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:11.759 One lane and drive ninety miles an hour. 126 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.160 Yeah you'll get to a destination, but it may not 127 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.480 be the right one. You might have should have taken 128 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.120 an exit before you got there. I'm anxious to hear 129 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.639 some of your theories about this and how you approach 130 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.519 the subject. But before we get deep into that kind 131 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.439 of stuff, let's talk about your own experiences with what 132 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.879 you would consider to be UFOs or alien craft. 133 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:32.240 Yeah. 134 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.360 You're definitely right, and I'm super interested to dig in. 135 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:38.079 I have a pretty solid theory that's not my own, 136 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.519 but it makes the most sense to me, and I 137 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.759 see it getting accepted here and there, not across the board, 138 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.360 but enough to where, oh, okay, people are starting to pick 139 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.360 it up. I moved to Missouri. I'm from Indiana Originally. 140 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.519 We do have some stuff happen in that area. There's 141 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.639 more what people consider ghost phenomena or pontings and all 142 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:01.360 of that. It's a very religious state, and it seems 143 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:06.160 that there's a lot of focus on that versus what 144 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:10.279 other things it could potentially be. Came to Missouri almost 145 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:15.000 immediately started researching about the historical aspect of what had 146 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:17.759 happened here as far as sightings and everything, and a 147 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.759 lot of people don't know it. Movefon. The Mutual UFO 148 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.439 network was started in Missouri. All the key players from ufology, 149 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:29.560 they came from basically US down to Atlanta and then 150 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.039 some people in New York and then the West coast, 151 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.000 but this little, tiny state. It's not little, it's big, 152 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.600 but you get what I'm saying. There was just stuff 153 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:42.159 happening constantly, and a lot of people were paying attention. 154 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:44.440 One of the first things I started to notice, and 155 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:46.720 it was always happening when I was coming back from 156 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:51.360 doing a hike or whatever. The areas the entire state 157 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:54.279 is just covered in forests. You go out and you 158 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.200 start noticing lights that don't make sense, or there's a 159 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.879 lot of nuclear around here, and there's a lot of 160 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.279 private and commercial airports, and I started noticing that if 161 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.080 you just sit and hang out and look, you start 162 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.279 noticing stuff that's coming in. You start having these experiences 163 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.840 where there's movement that you can't explain and it's flying 164 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.159 in the sky. One of the first ones was I 165 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:21.919 was out at my research area. I was getting towards 166 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:23.559 the end of the night and wanted to go to 167 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:29.320 a point where there was a closed in conservation area 168 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.279 and they closed the gate at ten. I knew that 169 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.840 there was a lake and I had heard some stories, 170 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.720 not historical reports, about people having experiences at this lake. 171 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.879 And the first night I'm out there, I always take photos. 172 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.279 I always use my iPhone. It would be great to 173 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.679 take a DSLR or a crazy point shoot at this point, 174 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.799 but iPhone cameras are getting really hard to beat. They 175 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.759 pick up a lot more than most people think. I thought, okay, 176 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.600 subject matter. I'll stand at the back of my truck, 177 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.440 put my phone on a tripod's stationary and it's not moving, 178 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.679 and then just take some photos. I was working with 179 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.679 some lighting stuff to try to figure out how to 180 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:14.440 boost the bitrate to where I could get more exposure 181 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.960 for really dark because other than moonlight, there's no ambient 182 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.000 light out there. I go and I start reviewing the photos, 183 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.919 and I noticed that there's this tiny little pill and 184 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:29.519 it's moving up and down vertically. Maybe it was at 185 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.679 the other side of the lake, but it's moving to 186 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.159 where it's one hundred two hundred feet above the tree line. 187 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.600 Pretty high above the tree line. But in this photo 188 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:43.120 i'm stationary, there's red light from my camera lights, and 189 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:47.120 then in the background there's just this light that's traveling 190 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.200 vertically and it's stopping and you can see it twists. 191 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.200 I just let the camera roll. I tried to turn 192 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.159 up everything I could to make of the aperture as 193 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.360 bright as possible without admittedly affecting the photo. I just 194 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.159 kept getting these weird little dots that are vertical lines. 195 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.159 You start looking at it from an aeronautics standpoint, we 196 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.720 don't really have stuff that travels straight up and down. 197 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.840 We do. A rocket, A helicopter still will drift during takeoff. 198 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.200 Even the Harrier jump jets or whatever the current version 199 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.399 of that is, they wobble. But this is a vertical 200 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:23.360 straight line. Turned around, watched, didn't see anything else, got 201 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:26.360 back in my truck and started to drive out. Right 202 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:28.639 before I hit the gate, there's a right hand turn 203 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.679 that goes out to the main road. I'm looking ahead 204 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.080 and I see these two points of light that are 205 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:38.559 going straight towards each other in an arcing v. They're 206 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:41.519 not big, and they're not really bright, but they're bright 207 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.840 enough to wear it noticeable. But they're almost erodescent. They're 208 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.320 not what you would consider a white light from a lens, 209 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.600 or what at a lightning bug would potentially be. And 210 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.000 I watch these two things come together and they get 211 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:59.440 maybe within I would say a foot, and they don't touch, 212 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.720 but they stop and then they just completely disappear. And 213 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.399 this is only forty feet off the ground. My truck's 214 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:07.440 not very tall, it's up enough to where I'm driving 215 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.879 and I'm looking up and I stop, and they came 216 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.440 from two totally different areas. The one on the left 217 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.519 did this kind of odd curve and then a stop 218 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.200 and then came down and that a foot apart. They 219 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.039 just and then out of nowhere. The thing that was 220 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.080 interesting for me was it's ten o'clock at night. I'm 221 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:25.720 rushing to get out of the gate because they shut 222 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.720 that gate at ten. There's no one else around, there's 223 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.120 no interference that could have caused it. Lightwise, I tried 224 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.759 to look at it as what could have caused these 225 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.759 three things to happen? Two lights interacting with each other 226 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:42.320 and then one moving vertically. Nothing. Wit Holm tried to 227 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.559 do some research and was maybe it's a shooting star. 228 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.320 But as you start doing this research, you start seeing 229 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.799 that the possibility of one turning back on itself, and 230 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.559 then both of them coming together and not touching, but 231 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.120 stopping and then disappearing, there's just no explanation. There's no drones, 232 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:02.000 the windows down. At that point, I was, okay, we're 233 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.559 onto something here. There is an airport that's just over 234 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:10.000 a pretty big river, but it's nothing that's going to 235 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.120 come from there because they're tiny. They probably honestly were 236 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.320 less than six inches circle wise, maybe four to three inches. 237 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.919 They didn't look led, and they didn't look the light 238 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.159 that would be admitted from a lens. They were parl 239 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:29.039 lesson eerodescent. When they came together, stop and disappeared, there 240 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.039 was no flash. It was just completely out. It was 241 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.320 they flew into each other, said hi, and then gone 242 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:39.840 de materialized or whatever. That was the really the first 243 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.480 big one here. There was another time where I was 244 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:45.240 driving down the highway on my way out to the 245 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.600 research location. The highways are pretty wild here. You can 246 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.039 get pretty much anywhere in fifteen minutes. It's nice to 247 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.080 be able to get on the highway and not stop 248 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.000 in traffic. The only downside of that is if you 249 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.720 see something along the roadway and you're going and there's 250 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.320 a bunch of people going sixty behind you, you can't 251 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:05.440 stop and pull over and look at it. I'm right 252 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.919 by the zoo on the highway in traffic, not going 253 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.440 super fast. It was a little bit of redlock, but 254 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.240 not enough to where we were at a dead stop, 255 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:20.320 and I saw the black round ball just hovering right 256 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.200 by where the edge of the parking lot for the 257 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.559 zoo is and then the highway, and it's just sitting 258 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.039 right there and it's maybe beach ball size, but the 259 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.679 same thing. You could see through it, and you can 260 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:36.279 see that there's rotation or there's movement, but it's not 261 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:40.039 bouncing movement. It's stationary sitting there and it's spinning. I 262 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.120 kept going past because I couldn't swerve off and pull over. 263 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.320 I looked back and as I look back, I look 264 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.399 in the rearview mirror, look at my side mirrors. I 265 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:51.759 watched this thing just go straight up in the air 266 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.240 as fast as possible. I know other people saw it 267 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.679 because the people next to me were doing the I 268 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.480 gotta look down from the wind shield movement. 269 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:04.840 And stay tuned for more sasquatchy out to see. We'll 270 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:06.759 be right back after these messages. 271 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.440 This is all going within sixty less seconds, and people 272 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:16.840 are looking out the window and we just watched this 273 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:18.759 thing shoot up in the air. But you could see 274 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:25.279 that it's a beach ball size black sphere. It's clear 275 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:29.519 but illuminated from the inside but not enough to where 276 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:31.399 it's bright. And this is the middle of the day. 277 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:35.440 This is full daylight, clear field of vision, no obstruction whatsoever, 278 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.759 and it's just hanging out right by the edge of 279 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.639 the highway. I found out later on that this is 280 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:43.679 a common occurrence in this area. I'm a firm believer. 281 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.559 This is a wild theory I have, and this doesn't 282 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.919 come out usually when I talk to people, because everybody's, oh, yeah, 283 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.879 you're crazy. We have two rivers that basically surround Saint Louis, right, 284 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:56.960 we have a giant arch that was built for whatever 285 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.440 reason they want to say. But this thing is big 286 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.000 and was weird for the time that it was built. 287 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.360 Construction wise and material wise. It draws stuff in constantly. 288 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.879 My theory is that somewhere in that area, unbeknounced to 289 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.759 everybody that lives in Saint Louis that doesn't care about 290 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.480 UFOs or magic or the paranormal, this thing is either 291 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.840 a beacon or a portal. Because people have regularly seen 292 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:27.679 stuff fly into the arch but not fly out of 293 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.759 the arch. It's pretty well documented. We don't have a 294 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.399 ton of high rise. We have maybe sixteen by sixteen 295 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.879 block of tall buildings and the baseball stadium, but security 296 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:40.159 cameras for the news, security cameras for some of the 297 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:43.240 buildings around the areas. Weather cameras have also picked up 298 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.480 quite a bit of really odd travel from stuff that 299 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:51.360 you can't explain. The wild theory is this arch was 300 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:53.639 built for a different purpose than what most people think. 301 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.039 Someone knew what was going on, and we have to 302 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.679 look at this in the perieuthology realm because you get 303 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:01.960 sucked into even some of the dumb conspiracy theories. You 304 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.880 can find a thread that makes sense and then you 305 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.119 start to cross reference and you're like, oh, okay, I 306 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.039 get it. But yeah, that's one of the things. I 307 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.400 found out that there's phenomena that happens all the time 308 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.799 on the highways. The really big one was I went 309 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:19.799 out to an undisclosed location. I got an invite. I 310 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.960 mentioned it earlier in the last time we talked. The 311 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.799 area's pretty secretive. We had some wild stuff happened that night. 312 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:33.680 But the big thing was this cloud, massive cloud, shelf cloud. 313 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.759 I start to notice there's the horizontal line of the 314 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.440 cloud is just a flat bottom, and there's this little 315 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:45.000 cute turned on its side. I see the point and 316 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.400 it's sticking out this far and it's blackish, kind of 317 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.559 the same thing, the shiny but not shiny, and then 318 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:55.000 I started to notice from that bottom point at three 319 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.000 degrees from the point, not a sharp angle, a pretty 320 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:02.599 gradual angle, there's these three flat sides that I can 321 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.640 see and they're just going out into basically infinity. They're 322 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:12.200 massively long, and I just watched this cloud pulling straight out, 323 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.799 no erratic movement whatsoever, moving very slow. But it's one 324 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:18.599 of those things where it's you see it, and it 325 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.480 doesn't click until you start looking and your why is 326 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.079 there at the bottom of a cube on its point 327 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.559 and angles that are super super shallow, just floating in 328 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.599 the middle of the air. You look above the cloud, 329 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.039 you can't see anything. I was pretty shocked at that point. 330 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.000 The night was wild, had a lot of really weird 331 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.440 stuff happened, but that was a big one. And then 332 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:42.119 started doing the expedition stuff, started noticing stuff that was 333 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.599 going on there and within the area as we're out 334 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.359 doing Bigfoot research, and then that kind of just drove 335 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.160 it home for the Okay, this stuff's connected. The other 336 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.440 big one was the bfro in Missouri that I went 337 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.200 to the expedition I went to with Mary Anne. Just 338 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:01.559 seeing this light bouncing around I mentioned before, we walked 339 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.720 up to it and everything. Another group went to try 340 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.079 to find it later on in an attempt to try 341 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.160 to prove what we saw. I had a theory. I 342 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.559 pretty much knew what it was the moment we saw it, 343 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:16.119 and pretty drastically said, what burn it with a light 344 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:19.519 to see if it reacts against everyone else's better judgment. 345 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.799 This stuff's for me as normal. If I see something, 346 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:23.480 I'm gonna blast it with the laser of blast it 347 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:25.200 with the light to try to get it to react. 348 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.960 I started checking what we use pretty regularly in ufology 349 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.240 and UFO research. There's a company that makes these tiny 350 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.400 sensors and they basically plug into your router, but they're 351 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.559 totally dormant, and what they are is non linear radar. 352 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.880 You can buy these sensors, they've been vetted. People obviously go, oh, 353 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:49.519 that's just someone creating an elaborate hoax, but it would 354 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.440 be really hard to do that. There are a lot 355 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:55.200 of people, including the US government, that's looked at them 356 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:58.200 and said, yeah, this is factual data. What this non 357 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:02.119 line of your radar does is it basically measures anything 358 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.839 between a mileage or a mile per hour. I don't 359 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:09.880 know if it's nautical miles for air whatever it is, 360 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:13.599 whatever they measure airplane stuff in, and it looks for 361 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:18.240 erratic flight patterns or erratic behavior. It won't pick up 362 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.359 the smooth, continuous arc of a jet, it won't pick 363 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:28.480 up the extremely far away gradual atmosphere curve of a satellite, 364 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:32.559 and it won't pick up the helicopter. They're tuned very specifically. 365 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.319 You start to see these things where you can look 366 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.839 at one section of the sensors and you'll see flight 367 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:43.480 patterns that are ninety degree turns. Stuff that's going from 368 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.079 two miles an hour to four thousand miles an hour 369 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:50.400 out of nowhere. And the beauty of this little node 370 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:53.799 that you plug in is they're all over the country 371 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.720 at this point. I think in Missouri now there's over 372 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.240 two hundred. They talk to each other essentially when they're 373 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.200 all based on a grid. Basically, the company that makes 374 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.400 them figured out some super genius way to ply all 375 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.880 this stuff together. But you can start to see these 376 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:13.200 flight patterns that don't make sense. They're calibrated very specifically 377 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.119 to where they won't pick up the usual suspects of 378 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:22.039 planes or helicopters or even rockets. By backtracks historically and 379 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.319 made a couple calls and sent some texts and said, hey, 380 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:28.799 we had this experience on this date. We went back 381 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:30.839 the next day it was happening again. There was another 382 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.920 gentleman that went back a week later and saw the 383 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.799 same thing that we saw in still the same vicinity, 384 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.119 but in a different location. Through all that data that 385 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.480 I recorded, I was able to go and look at 386 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:48.279 these nonlinear radar plots, and I noticed that for two 387 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.279 weeks before and after we were there, there's this really 388 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.200 erratic bouncy turning on itself, curly Q flying grid patterns, 389 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.759 really low altitude, sometimes down to under what you would 390 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:05.240 consider actual altitude below one hundred feet up. And these centers, 391 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:08.119 there's three sensors. If you drop a pin where we were, 392 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.920 there's one ten miles to the left, there's one ten 393 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.319 miles to the right, and then there's one more twelve 394 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.839 miles two miles past the one on the right, and 395 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:18.079 they're all picking this same thing up. And it's not 396 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:23.119 flying along the curve, which is also pretty interesting because 397 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.119 you would think, oh, okay, it's got to fly in 398 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:28.240 the flight pattern of where these sensors are, and they 399 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:31.200 don't which is cool because it allows you to focus 400 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:35.119 in on a forty by forty mile area and you 401 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:39.480