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<v Speaker 1>Ever since the days of Doctor Doolittle, Man has wondered

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<v Speaker 1>what it would be like to be inside the mind

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<v Speaker 1>of animals. Well, for Mabel, communicating with animals isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a thought experiment, but a necessity in order to defend

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<v Speaker 1>the memory of her grandmother. It's Hoppers. I'm Ronald Young Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm leaving the theater. All right. This is Ronald,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am leaving the theater after seeing Hoppers. Hoppers

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<v Speaker 1>written by Jesse Andrews, directed by Daniel Chong, starring Piper Curda,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby moynihan, John Hamm, Kathy Najimi, and Dave Franco and

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<v Speaker 1>per usual. For complete listing of the cast and crew,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the link in our show notes. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just me today. Hoppers is the newest Pixar film, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am not gonna lie to you. I've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer for this film dozens and dozens of times and

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<v Speaker 1>was not looking forward to seeing this movie at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not even one little bit. Leaving the theater almost always

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<v Speaker 1>review the new Pixar had no idea what this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. The preview had it looking pretty stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Human brains in the minds of animals, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>this movie will be a victim of poor marketing because

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it. Okay, so let me just start off.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole premise of the film is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a main character named Mabel who has an emotional attachment

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<v Speaker 1>to a glade that she used to spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time with her grandmother. That kind of helped her

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<v Speaker 1>work through her anger issues, and she became one with

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<v Speaker 1>nature and shared in the beauty of the glade, in

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<v Speaker 1>the animals and the nature. And there is a mayor

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to build a highway through it, and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel and the mayor are going back and forth against

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<v Speaker 1>each other over this glade. And one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>ways that Mabel begins to fight is that she puts

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<v Speaker 1>her mind in the body of a b through some

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<v Speaker 1>technology at her local college, and as a result, she

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<v Speaker 1>basically unwittingly starts an animal uprising. Now this is essentially Avatar,

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<v Speaker 1>but with heart. Avatar but written by people who actually care. Avatar,

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<v Speaker 1>but written by people who probably have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of human nature, of the nature of revolution as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, of the nature of people. It's it's you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell it's different. This film, in my imagination, is

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<v Speaker 1>way better than it probably actually is, meaning that as

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<v Speaker 1>I sat there and started to think, allegorically, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a film that really, I think hit the mark. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to really think about if what I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed by nature of itself. So let me talk

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<v Speaker 1>it through with y'all. It is a very cute movie.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of cuddly that look cuddly. These animals

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<v Speaker 1>don't look smelly and gross, they just look like cuddly animals.

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<v Speaker 1>They do this effect where when the humans are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the animals, their eyes have no character. They're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just dead. But when the animals are perceiving each other,

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes are full of life. They are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the pupils and eyes that you would expect from a

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Pixar movie, Whereas when the humans are looking at them, they're,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, just dead beady eyes, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was an effective way to describe how we view animals

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<v Speaker 1>versus how animals may view each other's and themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's that. I think the easiest closest comparison to this

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<v Speaker 1>would be The Wild Robot, which I loved, again, a

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<v Speaker 1>story that talks about nature versus technology in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways, in this case nature versus imminent domain or

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<v Speaker 1>the building of a highway. So those parts I really enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some bars in this movie. There's one thing where

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<v Speaker 1>the beaver says to the other who after some betrayal

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<v Speaker 1>of trust happens. The beaver says, trust is like a damn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna leak sometimes, but you just have to patch

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Man. They said that, not teared up, because

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of trust being broken and never being able

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<v Speaker 1>to regain is something that is a real sentiment amongst

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<v Speaker 1>most people. But there are just some people out there

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<v Speaker 1>who don't have the capacity to continue to hold a

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<v Speaker 1>grudge or to continue to distrust. So for them, it

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<v Speaker 1>is easier for them to work on it and allow

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<v Speaker 1>trust to grow between people again, rather than let it

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<v Speaker 1>to remain severed. And this is not instructive to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't feel that way. It was just a nice

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment to have, and it kind of echoes nicely with

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<v Speaker 1>something else where. There was this idea that everyone should

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<v Speaker 1>be given a chance to be a good person. That

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<v Speaker 1>one person says to another, everyone's good deep down, and

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<v Speaker 1>they respond Is that true? And then she responds, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you like it to be? And yes, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to be good deep down and this

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<v Speaker 1>movie imagines that people have the capacity to be good

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<v Speaker 1>people deep down inside, which is the type of movie

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<v Speaker 1>that we need. Right now, I'll tell you why. I

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<v Speaker 1>movie marathon, so I'll see. I am sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot of Springfield Mall right now, I will leave

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<v Speaker 1>here and go to Tyson's Corner to watch The Protector

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<v Speaker 1>starring Miya Joviovich, which will be the movie that comes

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<v Speaker 1>out next week. This week you're hearing Hoppers. Two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>from now, you're going to hear Project Hail Mary with

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<v Speaker 1>Daryl C. Murphy. Daryl C. Murphy, it goes on an

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<v Speaker 1>epic rant in that episode, make sure you listen, and

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<v Speaker 1>epic rant about propaganda and basically what Project Hail Mary is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a moment where I was sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, Man, it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>nice for since Darryl and I saw Project Hail Mary

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<v Speaker 1>last night and today I got to see Hoppers. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish Darryl had been with me. For hoppers, because this

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<v Speaker 1>film essentially is grappling with the notion of all of

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<v Speaker 1>us being in it together and having to work together

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<v Speaker 1>to solve problems versus the US versus them mentality, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it also plays around a little bit about revolution

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<v Speaker 1>and overthrow, what it looks like to actually kill the

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<v Speaker 1>masters in this case. And so I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being It's a much smaller movie than something

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<v Speaker 1>like Project Hill Mary. The stakes are only limited to Beaverton,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the city in which all of this happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and the surrounding forest very organ coded in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and it ends up being a small movie about polics

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that we imagine them to be. It

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<v Speaker 1>is us having the best intentions because we're working together,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that even if we have opposing ideas about methods

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<v Speaker 1>or about how we get there, ultimately we compromise and

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<v Speaker 1>we agree because we all have the best intentions of

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<v Speaker 1>one another. And that's what this movie is kind of presupposing.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point a villain, a real and true villain,

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<v Speaker 1>does emerge, but even that villain, as they emerge in

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<v Speaker 1>this film, had a sympathetic backstory, and it's teased out

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<v Speaker 1>when they have to interact with the protagonist in a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific way, regardless of the decision they make. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>think of kill Manger being hurt by the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the Wakandans treated him, his family, and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world as opposed to retreating now. Granted, doesn't forgive

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<v Speaker 1>all of the other things that kill Monger does in

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther. However, it does at least make you pause

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<v Speaker 1>to say, this guy kind of has a point. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are several times in this film in which it

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<v Speaker 1>is suggested that we go murder the humans and I

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<v Speaker 1>sat there like, yeah, no, that's yeah, you're cooking, go

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<v Speaker 1>get them, Like what are you talking about? We absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>should go kill these humans, And I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>movie convinces me that there is a better way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, the idea of someone coming and taking

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<v Speaker 1>and taking and taking constantly and there being no recourse

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<v Speaker 1>for us, I'm tired of those plot lines. This movie

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that, sure, you could do violent revolution, which in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases may be necessary, but it also says, but

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<v Speaker 1>what if we just tried this other thing first? And

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that because while it does not satisfy my bloodlust,

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<v Speaker 1>it did give us an opportunity to try to do

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<v Speaker 1>something a little bit better, which I mean, why not

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<v Speaker 1>why not make a movie that's about opposing opinions and

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<v Speaker 1>methods and let it end in a way that people

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<v Speaker 1>have to compromise. Why not end that way, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Why not have more movies that end

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<v Speaker 1>like that, especially right now in this time, Which is

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<v Speaker 1>why I'll reference Daryl C. Murphy again. Which if y'all

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to this episode you have not heard Project

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<v Speaker 1>hell Mary yet. It'll come out in a couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I encourage you to make sure you listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>because for me, if you watch Project hell Mary and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to watch Hoppers, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>might leave depending on your perspective, thinking about what filmmakers,

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<v Speaker 1>what movies, what studios are trying to tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and missing a place like Pixar still being

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<v Speaker 1>very subversive in their messaging, still sending messages like a

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<v Speaker 1>work together, a care about each other, a look out

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<v Speaker 1>for each other. Hey, let's overcome and kill the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still a very like old school Disney messaging. I mean, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>Disney's not perfect. There's still a corporation and I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say that maybe there isn't some propaganda piece that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing in this film, but I think it is important

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<v Speaker 1>to note that movies like this are still being made

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six, and that feels good. With all

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<v Speaker 1>of that being said, excellent movie. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little small and I'm sitting here thinking about things like

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<v Speaker 1>character development. This was more about relationship building than it

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<v Speaker 1>was about individual characters. There's some plucking of the heartstrings,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some ways in which they're kind of doing the

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<v Speaker 1>typical Pixar playbook stuff. I don't think this movie made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel the way that I felt watching The Wild Robot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I believe I gave The Wild Robot five stars.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel comfortable giving this film my highest rating of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six so far, a four point two five stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Not perfect, made me feel good, perfect palate cleanser for

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<v Speaker 1>a different film like Project Hail Mary, which was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good movie, and you'll you'll hear me

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a couple of weeks. But this one,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I wanted. This, This is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of satisfying film that I was looking forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel good. That makes you leave the

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<v Speaker 1>theater with a little hope, not feeling dread or any

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<v Speaker 1>type of despair or wistfulness, nothing like that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>four point twenty five of five stars. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving the Theater is a production of Oh It's Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Studios. I mixed this episode, And as I just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the middle of a three day four movie marathon.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Project Hail Mary yesterday. I just saw Hoppers

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I am leaving here at a six thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a seven pm showing of The Protector in

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<v Speaker 1>Tyson's Corner Center, which is going to It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>give me just enough time to get over there, subtle

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<v Speaker 1>into my seat, maybe get a bite to eat. Then

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow I'm going to see Normal starring Bob whatever his name,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Odenkirk, Yes. And then on Saturday, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>see movies for fun. I'm going to see the OSCAR

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<v Speaker 1>nominated animated shorts and live action film, which I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. That's going to be fun. That's not for

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the theater. I'm going to be in a theater

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<v Speaker 1>a lot over the next few days. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that when I'm able to see a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>movies like this. It means that I can go home,

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<v Speaker 1>edit them in succession, get them ready, and have them

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<v Speaker 1>ready to post when they come out. For people that

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for a Project Hail Mary. That means that

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<v Speaker 1>for folks that are in the patreon, they will get

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<v Speaker 1>Project Hail Mary the review on the day that the

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<v Speaker 1>their normal normal Monday with ads. But if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the patreon, you won't be hearing this. So because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even hear what I'm saying right now in the patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>I cut all of this in the patreon. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're sick of hearing me advertise the patreon, join the patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, if you want to hear some movies early,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get them before Monday, I put

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<v Speaker 1>them out as I edit them, or on the day

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<v Speaker 1>that the movie is released. So if I edit and

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<v Speaker 1>finish it on a Sunday morning, the episode comes out

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday morning, you're good to go. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait till Monday. If I edit and it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out before the movie is released. In the case of

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<v Speaker 1>Project hell Mary, you'll get it on the day that

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<v Speaker 1>the movie comes out, which means they're getting reviews sooner

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<v Speaker 1>in Patreon, which is why I like being able to

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<v Speaker 1>see a bunch of movies early and often I say

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<v Speaker 1>that to you, to say that all takes effort, it

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<v Speaker 1>all takes work. I am enjoying the work, I really am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it because I'm feeling like I've hit my

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm finally providing to patrons something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been promising for what feels like years. I'm actually giving

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<v Speaker 1>out the extra content. I'm working hard, I'm thinking through

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<v Speaker 1>what value is provided to patrons who continue to contribute.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that being said, it's still labor. It's still labor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a labor of love, but it's still labor. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that means something to you, go to patreon dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash oh It's big Ron, or go to the

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<v Speaker 1>link in our show notes. Show art from Heather Wilder,

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<v Speaker 1>theme music by the mysterious Breakmaster Cylinder. For more information

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<v Speaker 1>about Hoppers, check out our show notes. You can follow

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<v Speaker 1>me on Instagram, Blue Sky, TikTok, threads, or letterboxed at

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<v Speaker 1>Owitz Big Ron. That's at h I T S B

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<v Speaker 1>I G R o N. You can find out more

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<v Speaker 1>about this show and other Ow's Big Ron Studio shows

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<v Speaker 1>by following us on Instagram at Owitz Big Ron Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving the theater will be back soon. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ronald Young Junior and I'm thinking about human brains