WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:07.320 This week on the latest episode of The Big Show, 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:11.240 we celebrate the legacy of black storytelling on screen with 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:17.160 our countdown of the top ten black cinema adaptations, from 4 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.399 A Raisin in the Sun to Malcolm X, The Color 5 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:24.960 Purple to Beale Street Guitar. We'll explore how books and 6 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:28.600 plays have shaped some of the most powerful moments in 7 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:34.840 black film history. Plus we'll review Eden, Honey, Dun't and Lurker. 8 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.520 We'll have all that and more on the latest episode 9 00:00:38.920 --> 00:01:12.719 of Keeping It Real with Film Gordon. Let's go all 10 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.920 right and welcome to the latest episode of Keeping It 11 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.319 Rail with Film Gordon. I am Tim Gordon. I am 12 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.200 joined by Charles Kirkland Junior. Charles. What's going on, bru. 13 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.959 It's hard on in the streets. I'm ducking bullets every day. 14 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.519 There's so much crime going on, So. 15 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:37.840 Sad, so sad. Welcome to the latest episode about show. 16 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:41.079 Charles and I have talked about this before the show. 17 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.560 We're not going there because that's not this show. And 18 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.640 before we get started. For those who are watching us 19 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.200 and I'll you'll notice that this is a backdrop filled 20 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.519 with black icons and film stars and Egott winners and 21 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.840 legends and I put this up because of course we've 22 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:05.560 been promoting Summer Madness, our series talking about legendary black 23 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.879 actors all month long, and very proud of it this year. Charles, 24 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.919 I mean, you know, I know you talked about it 25 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.560 a couple of weeks ago when we were on the air, 26 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.960 and you know, I made the joke with you that 27 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:19.800 this was probably the first time that I really ever 28 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:24.080 marketed it and kind of like planned it out. I 29 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.439 think we got about about ten days left as we're 30 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:33.159 taping this show today with Jamie Fox being our Summer 31 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:38.919 Madness spotlight today. So we've spotlighted many of the people 32 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:42.879 that are behind me, whether it was Whoopy Goldberg, Silee Tyson, 33 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.719 to Roger b Henson, Eddie Murphy, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, 34 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.919 and many many others. So if you want to check 35 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.039 out the whole series, just go over to the film 36 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:56.599 Gordon dot com and you'll see on our top role 37 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:00.159 there's a Summer Madness drop down, a micro site we 38 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.639 built out some aer Madness will have. It will feature 39 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.039 all the people that were spotlighting, and they're also watch 40 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.199 lists of movies that you should check out from each 41 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.960 of these legends. Man so with that, Charles, Uh. 42 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.879 I'm glad you explained what the what your backdrop was 43 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.840 because at first I thought it might have been about 44 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.080 the Black Real Awards, which just dropped, and then I 45 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.280 saw that they were movie stars more than television stars, 46 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.240 and I thought maybe these were all people Uh called 47 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.159 and broke wish you a happy birthday as you're coming 48 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:38.360 up on another one. So I'm glad you explain what 49 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:39.319 the backdrop was. 50 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.240 They have not WITHSA happy birthday yet because we have 51 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.240 not gotten there. But also I'm glad. 52 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.319 At the time this as we already passed it. 53 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:53.520 No, my birthday is next week, so yes, next week. 54 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.240 Oh yeah, well no, yeah, by the time we do 55 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:00.560 another show, it will impair. Yes, but I'm glad you 56 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.360 brought up the Black Real Awards. We had the ninth 57 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.080 annual Black Real Awards earlier this week. Of course, the 58 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.439 big winner was Abbod Elementary. I think it took home 59 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.879 four bolts. And now for people at home, because you 60 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.680 have to explain all of this stuff, Charles, the Black 61 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.920 Real Television Awards are different from the Black Real Awards. 62 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:25.040 The Black Real Awards salute Achievement in Film. The Black 63 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:34.000 Real Television Awards honor what Charles television television so much 64 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:39.040 like the Academy Award has the Oscar. Our trophy is 65 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.519 that of a lightning bolt, so we call it the bolt. 66 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.920 So we just had another bolt. And now we're coming 67 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.560 up on the twenty sixth annual Black Real Awards, which 68 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:54.720 will happen on February the nineteenth, twenty twenty six. So 69 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.240 I'm getting ready for that now. And submissions are open 70 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.279 because people are asking us questions. Are we able to 71 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.959 submit our film for Black Real Award consideration? You absolutely are, 72 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:09.040 So I'm very excited, Charles. Lots of positive stuff happening. 73 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.680 And last but not least, you didn't bring this up, 74 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.480 but the Light Reel Film Festival, the seventh annual Light 75 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.720 Reel Film Festival, submissions open in less than a month, 76 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.959 so September fifteenth will be getting ready for a new 77 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:27.720 slew of films that will play in next June's festival. 78 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.160 So we got a lot of stuff happening in Charles, 79 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.879 got a lot of stuff happening. And before we get 80 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.680 out of this, I want to congratulate my co host 81 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:41.360 who has now just secured a deal and he has 82 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:46.000 another podcast that he is a member of and Charles 83 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.160 talk a little bit about your podcast. 84 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:54.040 Well podcast is called Build Movie Stuff and it's produced 85 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:58.600 by the Defiant Need Meat Network. And so I've been 86 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:03.920 picked up. I've been uh just grinding out some episodes 87 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.759 and it's it's again. It's another entertainment podcast. We'll be 88 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:10.680 talking about movies and uh stuff in the industry. And 89 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.199 you know, I'm kind of very reverend, so I'm not 90 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:17.839 gonna be like, uh like timism about all these things. 91 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:22.120 But I'm me. So it's if you like being silly me, 92 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.040 that's what's gonna happen on the show. So that's that's 93 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:26.040 exactly what you get. 94 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.560 I'm glad to hear that this silliness is spreading like 95 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.560 a virus a podcast. Now He's like, yeah, you just 96 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:38.720 like me, all right, man? So anything else we need 97 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:44.120 to plug. We plugged some of Madness, we plugged your show, 98 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.040 Black Real Awards, Light Reel Film Festival. Is anything else 99 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:49.319 is out there that's pluggable? 100 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:51.959 Well, I do want to correct you on one thing. 101 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.879 You said Abbitt Elementary was the big winner. Well they 102 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.560 kind of tied because Paradise also had fours and so 103 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.879 some we're really happy with that as well. For the 104 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:04.519 Black Real Awards for Television. 105 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:07.240 Now the other thing that now, I was gonna say 106 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.879 the other big winner, because what we normally do is that, 107 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:13.079 you know, our social media presence for the Black Real 108 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.560 Awards is always huge because you get a lot of 109 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.240 I mean, I'm not gonna go into details, but let's 110 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.720 just say that what I've learned over almost twenty six 111 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:29.600 years of doing this stuff is that there are a 112 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:34.639 lot of people that work in this industry that go unnoticed. 113 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:35.279 Right. 114 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:37.800 I think that's the easiest way to say it. And 115 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.959 one of the things that I hope is my legacy, 116 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.680 or at least a part of my legacy as it 117 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:52.720 relates to that particular project, is that we see you. Right. 118 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.439 That's the easiest way to say it, man, and to 119 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:58.879 this day, and that's no disrespect to any other show 120 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:04.920 that's black that are not awarding people in these categories. 121 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.360 We see you at the Black Real Awards. And I 122 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.920 think part of why there's such undying loyalty to us 123 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.759 from certain individuals is because we were able to see 124 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:19.560 their performances or see their work, or acknowledge their work 125 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.600 when other people were not acknowledging that work. And that's 126 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.120 one of the things that I'm most proud of with 127 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:29.279 the Black Real Awards. So yeah, it was a good week. 128 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.519 And I wanted to bring that up because Reginald Huttling 129 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:36.679 had reached out to me because we did a collaboration 130 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:39.559 on posts so that we could share the post with 131 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.559 that person and that person shares with their audience, and 132 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:44.679 we just couldn't give Reggie Hutlin's to work at all. 133 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:46.639 And it was funny because he texted me and I 134 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:48.879 was like, I sent them some screenshots. I was like, 135 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.480 I don't know, Reggie. He was like, it's weird. I 136 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.080 was like, I know. So I sent them the posts 137 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.879 and he I think linked back to us. But yeah, man, 138 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:04.919 so if you get an opportunity, We're on Instagram, not exclusively, 139 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.399 but Instagram is where a lot of the conversation around 140 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.039 the Black Real Awards and the Black Real Television Awards 141 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.799 are going on. But yeah, man, real proud. I'm glad. 142 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.120 I'm glad you brought that up. Man. So it gave 143 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.360 me an opportunity to say that, man, because that was 144 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.960 something that's really near and dear to me. Charles got 145 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.720 anything else brought before we launch into our top ten today? 146 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.159 Let's get it. Let's get it because we don't want 147 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.559 to be overtime. Let's do this. 148 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:33.440 You don't want to do overtime. I thought we were 149 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.240 gonna thought we had an overtime conversation we needed to have. 150 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.120 You don't want to have that time conversation. 151 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.639 Talk about that. Let's let's get into the show. All right, Okay, 152 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.960 we want to talk about this top ten list, all right. 153 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.240 Man, So let's break this down. Man. So we're talking 154 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:53.159 about adaptations as cultural landmarks this week now, from the 155 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.639 pages of powerful novels and groundbreaking plays to the big screen. 156 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:01.840 Black cinema, adaptations have been a long have been a long, 157 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:06.240 vital part of our storytelling tradition right now. These films 158 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:11.240 just don't translate words into images. They preserve history, amplify voices, 159 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:16.679 and reimagine culture for new generations. Now, thinking about something 160 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.919 Charles like from Lorraine Hansbury, or Raising in the Sun 161 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.360 to Alex Walker's The Color Purple from James Baldwins and 162 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:28.279 Beal Street could talk to August Wilson's Fences and my 163 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.200 Rainey's Black Bottom. These works remind us that the written 164 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:38.240 word has always been the foundation for cinematic excellence, and 165 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.759 when visionary directors like Spike Lee, Barry Jenkins and Steve 166 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.440 McQueen bringing them to the screen, the results just don't 167 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:51.320 become films, they become, as as stated earlier, cultural landmarks. 168 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.279 All right, so now, Charles, before we get started, you 169 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.279 and I had a conversation because we usually always talk 170 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.600 before we present these lists, because is you know, you 171 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:04.000 notice we have a lot of lists, and a lot 172 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:08.080 of these lists are our ideas that either either I 173 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.799 have come up with or Charles and I will collaborate 174 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.960 on these ideas. So today this was a Tim Gordon exclusive, right, 175 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:19.240 and Charles asked me a couple of questions, which you're interesting. 176 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.480 So Charles, let's play Devil's advocate man and asked me 177 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.120 the questions that we had in our pre show meeting today. 178 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.000 Go ahead. What was the first one? 179 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.320 What's the criteria for these for these awards? You, I mean, 180 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.480 for this myths? So how do you determine who's on 181 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.000 it and what's not on it? 182 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:40.960 Good question, but that's not the first question I thought 183 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.240 you was gonna ask you. Your first question was where 184 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:48.039 do you get this list from? 185 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.519 Hey, they don't need to know the secret Sauce. 186 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:57.840 Made. I mean, I mean, well, it started because I 187 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.759 saw a movie last night that we're gonna review next week, 188 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.960 and we didn't get a chance because we were off 189 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.480 last week and we didn't talk about highest the lowest. 190 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.399 It being an adaptation of a Kira Kirasa was high 191 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.480 and low, right, So I was like, oh, we should 192 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.960 talk about adaptations today. And I started to talk about 193 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:21.240 adaptations across mainstream film, and I was like, no, let's 194 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.080 do it for black film. So that's where the idea 195 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.799 and the concept came up, right. I did some research 196 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.360 because Charles will tell you, and he's watching me do 197 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.799 this in studio. I just I just know movies, man, 198 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.679 So I don't need a lot of prompting to come 199 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.879 up with stuff. I just have seen a lot of stuff, right, 200 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.960 So I did some research and came up with a list. 201 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:45.159 What's wrong? 202 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:49.679 I just thought of something that's but I will get there. 203 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.320 We'll get there. Yeah, you shocked. 204 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:58.639 Some whole Okay. So I was saying that. 205 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:00.679 Start off a film that's not on the list and 206 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:02.039 we'll get to it. 207 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.120 Okay, cool, all right, So Charles to answer his question, 208 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.879 we came over to criteria and the criteria was built 209 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:14.399 on several things, and actually I sent it to you, Charles. 210 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.720 Do you want to go through just briefly the criteria. 211 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:17.519 Do you have it up? 212 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:20.000 Yeah? 213 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.559 Sure, Just go through the criteria because if we're going 214 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.639 to do a list of something, people need to understand 215 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.720 how are we judging what we're judging. 216 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.840 The sixth criteria that to the decision of the list. 217 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:40.519 The first one being foundational source materials, so that this 218 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.720 means that adaptations must come from and mark black. A third, 219 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:51.360 there are not plays memois cultural texts that carry historical, 220 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:55.639 literary or cultural for example the Out of Bio Freedom, 221 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.960 Out the Mix, or the novel of Alice Walker's novel Purple. 222 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:06.320 The second Cate criteria was cultural and historical impact. These 223 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:11.159 films must have shifted the conversation about black life culture 224 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.720 representation in cinema. They just don't retell stories in five voices, 225 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:21.519 preserved history and redefine how audience engaged with black narratives. 226 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:27.679 Third third criteria is cinematic excellence. Beyond faithful adaptation, these 227 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:32.559 films had to work as cinema powerful performances, strong direction, 228 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.799 and compelling storytelling that stood on their own. Four or 229 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.919 its recognition and breakthroughs. Many of these film broke barriers 230 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.840 at Oscars, em means or industry at large. Recognition was 231 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:51.120 not required, but the signal cultural validation. Number five is 232 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.799 longevity and legacy. These films had to have staying power. 233 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.919 They are still taught, referenced, and celebrated decades later. And 234 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:04.080 the last criteria his broad audience resonance. Top ten film 235 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:09.320 reached beyond niche audiences, whether through mainstream theatrical success like 236 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:14.639 Inside Man or the awards prestiged or cultural conversations, so 237 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:19.639 they had to resonate with their audience. Well that's the 238 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:21.360 criterion got you. 239 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:26.159 All right. So now that we've established that as the benchmark, right, 240 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.440 let's before we even get to our top ten, let's 241 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.159 talk about some of these honorable mentions. And Charles Who 242 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.759 a couple of minutes ago, just went, I guess is 243 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:36.879 this time right now that you can talk about what 244 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:38.840 the is? Yeah? 245 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.440 I think the first well, the first honorable mention that 246 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:45.120 I wouldn't like to mention is is Black Panther. It's 247 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:47.559 not on the list, And we talked about it because 248 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.000 what happened is the Black Panther was the comic book 249 00:15:53.039 --> 00:16:05.879 that was started by stan Lee and reimagined byel hadn't 250 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:09.799 in all those so the source material is not black 251 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.240 in nature, and said, that's one of the reasons why 252 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.960 it's it's an honorable mention. It didn't make it into 253 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:19.960 the top ten. The one movie that I just thought 254 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.320 about that is not on the list and has to 255 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.679 be listed, as I mentioned, is Precious, which was adapted 256 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:34.759 by from Sapphire's book Push. Now that did not mean 257 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:38.600 the top ten, but and if you think about it, 258 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:47.759 it's culturally significant because for that performance, So I mean, 259 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.919 it was more recognizing a lot of people. Precious one 260 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:55.039 of those films that I don't think I've ever watched 261 00:16:55.039 --> 00:17:00.879 it twice. I've watched it once, but it is soh 262 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.680 stark in its direction and story that it's it's a 263 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.440 really tough film to watch over and over again. And 264 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.160 that's probably one of the reasons why it didn't make 265 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.039 it into the top Ten's it's a really good movie. 266 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.240 It's a lot of significance, but it's a tough movie 267 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:19.720 to watch. 268 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:25.519 I agree, Yeah, yeah, agree. So let's let's talk about it. 269 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.000 The first I'm gonna give you a chance to get 270 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:31.200 some water, because we sounding like I'm not getting full 271 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.680 Charles Kirkland did it sounds like it's it's on sound stuff, 272 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:37.240 And I'm like, man, is that brother? Is he alright? 273 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.960 He needs you need a glass of water over there? 274 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.839 All right? So let me yeah do that. So all right, 275 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.519 so let's go down some of these honorable mentions. So 276 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.960 you've mentioned too, Black Panther and Precious Glory was another 277 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.559 film that was an honorable mention based on letters from 278 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:01.279 Robert Gould. Now this is also a lot of these 279 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:05.279 that are outside are because to your point, Charles, that 280 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:09.359 the source material that we're honoring or acknowledging today are 281 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:14.039 those that were written by the Black pen. Right. So 282 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.759 either they couldn't crack the top ten because they weren't 283 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.119 either significant enough to scale the ten that are there, 284 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:26.599 or they had authors or the writers who initially weren't 285 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.279 African American, even if the subject matter may have been 286 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:31.240 African American. 287 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:31.519 Right. 288 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.079 So that's an example. The next one is a good example, 289 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.920 Native Son. Right. Native Son is a Richard Wright book 290 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.839 written by brother, and it's been adapted twice, both in 291 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:45.599 eighty six and then in twenty nineteen. Nineteen eighty six 292 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:51.400 and twenty nineteen a good book, but just outside of 293 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.480 that top ten range. Charles, you also have The Immortal 294 00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:00.559 Life of Henrietta Lax, which was adapted from Rebecca S. 295 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:13.480 K l o O telling book start Over Winfrey outside. 296 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:14.519 Think about the more Life of Henrietta Lax. It's I mean, 297 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:17.920 we were talking about movies really, so this one and 298 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:21.599 the next one you'll probably mentioned, which both start Over Winfrey. 299 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:28.759 We're actually television, either television movies or television serials, and 300 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:33.119 that will also explain why it's not on the top 301 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:34.400 ten of I. 302 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.960 Was great to say that because Roots Roots is amazing. Man. Like, 303 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:42.680 if we did a list of of TV adaptations, that's 304 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:43.480 a different story. 305 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:44.920 Yeah. 306 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:46.880 Wow, So hold on, so let me just double check. 307 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:48.920 Do we have any TV adaptations on here? 308 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:51.920 Nope, you're not. Oh that was closed? 309 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.920 Oh yeah, yeah one, well y'all won. But it's a 310 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:01.920 movie that was on television. Wow. Yeah, whoa, Okay, that's interesting. 311 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.279 We're gonna get in trouble. I can see the angry 312 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:11.359 letters Roots, Roots, Roots, That's all I'll say. Roots is fantastic. 313 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:17.079 Roots is fantastic. So thank you, Charles. The Eyes were 314 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.960 watching God from Zora Neil Hurston Queen adapted from Alex 315 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.599 Haley The Learning Tree. You know, Gordon park semi Arto 316 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.759 Bryah graphical movie from nineteen sixty nine, Losing Isaiah, which 317 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:35.000 was the seth Mark Goolis novel. And last, but not least, 318 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:40.000 for honorable mentions for colored girls, right, Tyler Perry's adaptation 319 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:45.359 of Into Saki Shot Gays choreo palm. I've never heard 320 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.440 of described in that way, but I wanted to make 321 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.200 sure I read that choreo palm. 322 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:53.920 Wow, whatever that means? 323 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:56.720 All right, Charles, So before we get into top ten 324 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:04.519 Roots Wow? Now what we can explain about Roots which 325 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:06.799 might be different as we get to this list, because 326 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:11.680 I just want to double check something. Okay, Roots, I 327 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:15.920 will say didn't make the list because while we do 328 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:19.279 have a television movie on the list, it is a 329 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:24.640 television movie, not a television limited series. There you go, Charles, 330 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:31.440 That's why Roots didn't make the list. Roots happened over 331 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.240 seven nights, where everything else on this list happened in 332 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:38.599 a single night. When me double check, I want to 333 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:42.839 make sure, uh huh uh huh. Yes. So that's why 334 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.720 Roots didn't make the list because Roots is too obvious 335 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.799 to miss. Right, if we're talking about adaptation, it's just 336 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:54.799 too obvious, right, So there would be a reason it missed. 337 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:58.160 So so please do not send me angry emails. Go 338 00:21:58.279 --> 00:21:58.720 what's over? 339 00:21:58.799 --> 00:21:59.200 Roots? 340 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:05.480 Roots? Seven nights, everything else, single night? All right, Charles? 341 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:09.079 So you ready, I have to do a television adaptations 342 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:14.480 that's down in television series that's made down the line somewhere. 343 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.960 I mean absolutely, man. I mean we got some other 344 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.839 stuff in the hopper that we haven't finished, that we 345 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.440 talked about the day. So we always got lists, all right, Charles, 346 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.480 So this comes and I would say no particular order, 347 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:28.920 but we have to always order it because we gotta 348 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.440 do this. So coming into number ten, Charles on our 349 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:37.039 list of the top ten black cinema adaptations is the 350 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.559 autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman. Charles, do you remember watching 351 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:42.519 this as a kid? 352 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:49.279 What? I can't remember how young I was when I 353 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.559 saw this INFANTIL had to watch it again as I 354 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.960 got older because the significance of what I was watching 355 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.960 just went over my head. It was one of those things. 356 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.039 It was kind of like Roots in that it was 357 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.480 to watch, but it didn't feel it like. 358 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:14.720 What I mean, Man, I remember watching this and I 359 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.759 might have been I'm not gonna tell you my age, 360 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:21.480 but I watched this when it first dropped, right, and 361 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.400 what I didn't understand because I was so young, I 362 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.359 didn't get the nuance of it. You gotta remember she 363 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:34.759 is being interviewed by a journalist and she is a 364 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:39.400 hundred and ten years old. So the makeup that they 365 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:43.279 used in this, because it it didn't look like it 366 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.119 was not realistic. I mean, it was based on a 367 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.480 true story, Like it was not based on a true story, 368 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.640 but it's based on the novel of this slave in 369 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.480 nineteen sixties who had been a slave since the eighteen hundreds, right, 370 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.039 and she wasn't a slave as we were watching it, 371 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:01.960 and like this movie came out in nineteen seventy four. 372 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:09.519 But her recounting her story of her going from an 373 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:14.319 enslaved person to a person who gained her freedom and 374 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:19.519 all the things that she saw, Cinicely Tyson to me, Charles, 375 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:22.359 I'm just saying this, and she has been acknowledged as 376 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.799 one of our summer madness folks. That she's Sicely Tyson 377 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.400 as an actress is just phenomenal and a lot of 378 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.920 people who are younger didn't get an opportunity to see 379 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:36.559 films like Sounder and see her in the Autobiography of 380 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.400 Jane Pittman and didn't get I mean you saw her 381 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:41.480 and some older stuff that she might have done with 382 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.759 Tyler Perry or some stuff that she you know, she 383 00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:48.480 was on, you know, with Viola Davis and How to 384 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:51.240 Get Away with Murder. But you guys didn't see the best. 385 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.039 Of Sists Help. She was in The Help. 386 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.039 And The Help. Yeah, you didn't see the best of 387 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:59.880 Sicely Tyson. You didn't see young Cicely Tyson, who was 388 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.000 really knocking it out the park man. I mean, she 389 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.200 was a dark skinned system, so it wasn't about her 390 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.200 being fair skins. She just had talent. And in this 391 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:15.759 movie her playing you know, like four or five different 392 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.960 iterations of her life. Man of telling this story the 393 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:23.440 Autobiography of Jane Pittman with it ending with that fantastic 394 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:27.079 scene where she drinks out of a whites only found 395 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.839 because you know, it was still segregated in her part 396 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.119 of the South as she's telling the story. I think 397 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.839 she lived in the story from like eighteen fifties to 398 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.920 like something like sometime in the eighteen fifties to like 399 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:43.559 the nineteen sixties, which is a story. 400 00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:45.960 She was one hundred and ten years old when they 401 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.880