Speaker 1: This week on the latest episode of The Big Show,
Speaker 1: we celebrate the legacy of black storytelling on screen with
Speaker 1: our countdown of the top ten black cinema adaptations, from
Speaker 1: A Raisin in the Sun to Malcolm X, The Color
Speaker 1: Purple to Beale Street Guitar. We'll explore how books and
Speaker 1: plays have shaped some of the most powerful moments in
Speaker 1: black film history. Plus we'll review Eden, Honey, Dun't and Lurker.
Speaker 1: We'll have all that and more on the latest episode
Speaker 1: of Keeping It Real with Film Gordon. Let's go all
Speaker 1: right and welcome to the latest episode of Keeping It
Speaker 1: Rail with Film Gordon. I am Tim Gordon. I am
Speaker 1: joined by Charles Kirkland Junior. Charles. What's going on, bru.
Speaker 2: It's hard on in the streets. I'm ducking bullets every day.
Speaker 2: There's so much crime going on, So.
Speaker 1: Sad, so sad. Welcome to the latest episode about show.
Speaker 1: Charles and I have talked about this before the show.
Speaker 1: We're not going there because that's not this show. And
Speaker 1: before we get started. For those who are watching us
Speaker 1: and I'll you'll notice that this is a backdrop filled
Speaker 1: with black icons and film stars and Egott winners and
Speaker 1: legends and I put this up because of course we've
Speaker 1: been promoting Summer Madness, our series talking about legendary black
Speaker 1: actors all month long, and very proud of it this year. Charles,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know you talked about it
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when we were on the air,
Speaker 1: and you know, I made the joke with you that
Speaker 1: this was probably the first time that I really ever
Speaker 1: marketed it and kind of like planned it out. I
Speaker 1: think we got about about ten days left as we're
Speaker 1: taping this show today with Jamie Fox being our Summer
Speaker 1: Madness spotlight today. So we've spotlighted many of the people
Speaker 1: that are behind me, whether it was Whoopy Goldberg, Silee Tyson,
Speaker 1: to Roger b Henson, Eddie Murphy, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington,
Speaker 1: and many many others. So if you want to check
Speaker 1: out the whole series, just go over to the film
Speaker 1: Gordon dot com and you'll see on our top role
Speaker 1: there's a Summer Madness drop down, a micro site we
Speaker 1: built out some aer Madness will have. It will feature
Speaker 1: all the people that were spotlighting, and they're also watch
Speaker 1: lists of movies that you should check out from each
Speaker 1: of these legends. Man so with that, Charles, Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you explained what the what your backdrop was
Speaker 2: because at first I thought it might have been about
Speaker 2: the Black Real Awards, which just dropped, and then I
Speaker 2: saw that they were movie stars more than television stars,
Speaker 2: and I thought maybe these were all people Uh called
Speaker 2: and broke wish you a happy birthday as you're coming
Speaker 2: up on another one. So I'm glad you explain what
Speaker 2: the backdrop was.
Speaker 1: They have not WITHSA happy birthday yet because we have
Speaker 1: not gotten there. But also I'm glad.
Speaker 2: At the time this as we already passed it.
Speaker 1: No, my birthday is next week, so yes, next week.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well no, yeah, by the time we do
Speaker 1: another show, it will impair. Yes, but I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up the Black Real Awards. We had the ninth
Speaker 1: annual Black Real Awards earlier this week. Of course, the
Speaker 1: big winner was Abbod Elementary. I think it took home
Speaker 1: four bolts. And now for people at home, because you
Speaker 1: have to explain all of this stuff, Charles, the Black
Speaker 1: Real Television Awards are different from the Black Real Awards.
Speaker 1: The Black Real Awards salute Achievement in Film. The Black
Speaker 1: Real Television Awards honor what Charles television television so much
Speaker 1: like the Academy Award has the Oscar. Our trophy is
Speaker 1: that of a lightning bolt, so we call it the bolt.
Speaker 1: So we just had another bolt. And now we're coming
Speaker 1: up on the twenty sixth annual Black Real Awards, which
Speaker 1: will happen on February the nineteenth, twenty twenty six. So
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for that now. And submissions are open
Speaker 1: because people are asking us questions. Are we able to
Speaker 1: submit our film for Black Real Award consideration? You absolutely are,
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited, Charles. Lots of positive stuff happening.
Speaker 1: And last but not least, you didn't bring this up,
Speaker 1: but the Light Reel Film Festival, the seventh annual Light
Speaker 1: Reel Film Festival, submissions open in less than a month,
Speaker 1: so September fifteenth will be getting ready for a new
Speaker 1: slew of films that will play in next June's festival.
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of stuff happening in Charles,
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff happening. And before we get
Speaker 1: out of this, I want to congratulate my co host
Speaker 1: who has now just secured a deal and he has
Speaker 1: another podcast that he is a member of and Charles
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your podcast.
Speaker 2: Well podcast is called Build Movie Stuff and it's produced
Speaker 2: by the Defiant Need Meat Network. And so I've been
Speaker 2: picked up. I've been uh just grinding out some episodes
Speaker 2: and it's it's again. It's another entertainment podcast. We'll be
Speaker 2: talking about movies and uh stuff in the industry. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'm kind of very reverend, so I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be like, uh like timism about all these things.
Speaker 2: But I'm me. So it's if you like being silly me,
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen on the show. So that's that's
Speaker 2: exactly what you get.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that this silliness is spreading like
Speaker 1: a virus a podcast. Now He's like, yeah, you just
Speaker 1: like me, all right, man? So anything else we need
Speaker 1: to plug. We plugged some of Madness, we plugged your show,
Speaker 1: Black Real Awards, Light Reel Film Festival. Is anything else
Speaker 1: is out there that's pluggable?
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to correct you on one thing.
Speaker 2: You said Abbitt Elementary was the big winner. Well they
Speaker 2: kind of tied because Paradise also had fours and so
Speaker 2: some we're really happy with that as well. For the
Speaker 2: Black Real Awards for Television.
Speaker 1: Now the other thing that now, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: the other big winner, because what we normally do is that,
Speaker 1: you know, our social media presence for the Black Real
Speaker 1: Awards is always huge because you get a lot of
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna go into details, but let's
Speaker 1: just say that what I've learned over almost twenty six
Speaker 1: years of doing this stuff is that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people that work in this industry that go unnoticed.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think that's the easiest way to say it. And
Speaker 1: one of the things that I hope is my legacy,
Speaker 1: or at least a part of my legacy as it
Speaker 1: relates to that particular project, is that we see you. Right.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest way to say it, man, and to
Speaker 1: this day, and that's no disrespect to any other show
Speaker 1: that's black that are not awarding people in these categories.
Speaker 1: We see you at the Black Real Awards. And I
Speaker 1: think part of why there's such undying loyalty to us
Speaker 1: from certain individuals is because we were able to see
Speaker 1: their performances or see their work, or acknowledge their work
Speaker 1: when other people were not acknowledging that work. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm most proud of with
Speaker 1: the Black Real Awards. So yeah, it was a good week.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to bring that up because Reginald Huttling
Speaker 1: had reached out to me because we did a collaboration
Speaker 1: on posts so that we could share the post with
Speaker 1: that person and that person shares with their audience, and
Speaker 1: we just couldn't give Reggie Hutlin's to work at all.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because he texted me and I
Speaker 1: was like, I sent them some screenshots. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Reggie. He was like, it's weird. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know. So I sent them the posts
Speaker 1: and he I think linked back to us. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so if you get an opportunity, We're on Instagram, not exclusively,
Speaker 1: but Instagram is where a lot of the conversation around
Speaker 1: the Black Real Awards and the Black Real Television Awards
Speaker 1: are going on. But yeah, man, real proud. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Man. So it gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to say that, man, because that was
Speaker 1: something that's really near and dear to me. Charles got
Speaker 1: anything else brought before we launch into our top ten today?
Speaker 2: Let's get it. Let's get it because we don't want
Speaker 2: to be overtime. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: You don't want to do overtime. I thought we were
Speaker 1: gonna thought we had an overtime conversation we needed to have.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have that time conversation.
Speaker 2: Talk about that. Let's let's get into the show. All right, Okay,
Speaker 2: we want to talk about this top ten list, all right.
Speaker 1: Man, So let's break this down. Man. So we're talking
Speaker 1: about adaptations as cultural landmarks this week now, from the
Speaker 1: pages of powerful novels and groundbreaking plays to the big screen.
Speaker 1: Black cinema, adaptations have been a long have been a long,
Speaker 1: vital part of our storytelling tradition right now. These films
Speaker 1: just don't translate words into images. They preserve history, amplify voices,
Speaker 1: and reimagine culture for new generations. Now, thinking about something
Speaker 1: Charles like from Lorraine Hansbury, or Raising in the Sun
Speaker 1: to Alex Walker's The Color Purple from James Baldwins and
Speaker 1: Beal Street could talk to August Wilson's Fences and my
Speaker 1: Rainey's Black Bottom. These works remind us that the written
Speaker 1: word has always been the foundation for cinematic excellence, and
Speaker 1: when visionary directors like Spike Lee, Barry Jenkins and Steve
Speaker 1: McQueen bringing them to the screen, the results just don't
Speaker 1: become films, they become, as as stated earlier, cultural landmarks.
Speaker 1: All right, so now, Charles, before we get started, you
Speaker 1: and I had a conversation because we usually always talk
Speaker 1: before we present these lists, because is you know, you
Speaker 1: notice we have a lot of lists, and a lot
Speaker 1: of these lists are our ideas that either either I
Speaker 1: have come up with or Charles and I will collaborate
Speaker 1: on these ideas. So today this was a Tim Gordon exclusive, right,
Speaker 1: and Charles asked me a couple of questions, which you're interesting.
Speaker 1: So Charles, let's play Devil's advocate man and asked me
Speaker 1: the questions that we had in our pre show meeting today.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. What was the first one?
Speaker 2: What's the criteria for these for these awards? You, I mean,
Speaker 2: for this myths? So how do you determine who's on
Speaker 2: it and what's not on it?
Speaker 1: Good question, but that's not the first question I thought
Speaker 1: you was gonna ask you. Your first question was where
Speaker 1: do you get this list from?
Speaker 2: Hey, they don't need to know the secret Sauce.
Speaker 1: Made. I mean, I mean, well, it started because I
Speaker 1: saw a movie last night that we're gonna review next week,
Speaker 1: and we didn't get a chance because we were off
Speaker 1: last week and we didn't talk about highest the lowest.
Speaker 1: It being an adaptation of a Kira Kirasa was high
Speaker 1: and low, right, So I was like, oh, we should
Speaker 1: talk about adaptations today. And I started to talk about
Speaker 1: adaptations across mainstream film, and I was like, no, let's
Speaker 1: do it for black film. So that's where the idea
Speaker 1: and the concept came up, right. I did some research
Speaker 1: because Charles will tell you, and he's watching me do
Speaker 1: this in studio. I just I just know movies, man,
Speaker 1: So I don't need a lot of prompting to come
Speaker 1: up with stuff. I just have seen a lot of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So I did some research and came up with a list.
Speaker 1: What's wrong?
Speaker 2: I just thought of something that's but I will get there.
Speaker 2: We'll get there. Yeah, you shocked.
Speaker 1: Some whole Okay. So I was saying that.
Speaker 2: Start off a film that's not on the list and
Speaker 2: we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, all right, So Charles to answer his question,
Speaker 1: we came over to criteria and the criteria was built
Speaker 1: on several things, and actually I sent it to you, Charles.
Speaker 1: Do you want to go through just briefly the criteria.
Speaker 1: Do you have it up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure, Just go through the criteria because if we're going
Speaker 1: to do a list of something, people need to understand
Speaker 1: how are we judging what we're judging.
Speaker 2: The sixth criteria that to the decision of the list.
Speaker 2: The first one being foundational source materials, so that this
Speaker 2: means that adaptations must come from and mark black. A third,
Speaker 2: there are not plays memois cultural texts that carry historical,
Speaker 2: literary or cultural for example the Out of Bio Freedom,
Speaker 2: Out the Mix, or the novel of Alice Walker's novel Purple.
Speaker 2: The second Cate criteria was cultural and historical impact. These
Speaker 2: films must have shifted the conversation about black life culture
Speaker 2: representation in cinema. They just don't retell stories in five voices,
Speaker 2: preserved history and redefine how audience engaged with black narratives.
Speaker 2: Third third criteria is cinematic excellence. Beyond faithful adaptation, these
Speaker 2: films had to work as cinema powerful performances, strong direction,
Speaker 2: and compelling storytelling that stood on their own. Four or
Speaker 2: its recognition and breakthroughs. Many of these film broke barriers
Speaker 2: at Oscars, em means or industry at large. Recognition was
Speaker 2: not required, but the signal cultural validation. Number five is
Speaker 2: longevity and legacy. These films had to have staying power.
Speaker 2: They are still taught, referenced, and celebrated decades later. And
Speaker 2: the last criteria his broad audience resonance. Top ten film
Speaker 2: reached beyond niche audiences, whether through mainstream theatrical success like
Speaker 2: Inside Man or the awards prestiged or cultural conversations, so
Speaker 2: they had to resonate with their audience. Well that's the
Speaker 2: criterion got you.
Speaker 1: All right. So now that we've established that as the benchmark, right,
Speaker 1: let's before we even get to our top ten, let's
Speaker 1: talk about some of these honorable mentions. And Charles Who
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago, just went, I guess is
Speaker 1: this time right now that you can talk about what
Speaker 1: the is? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think the first well, the first honorable mention that
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like to mention is is Black Panther. It's
Speaker 2: not on the list, And we talked about it because
Speaker 2: what happened is the Black Panther was the comic book
Speaker 2: that was started by stan Lee and reimagined byel hadn't
Speaker 2: in all those so the source material is not black
Speaker 2: in nature, and said, that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: it's it's an honorable mention. It didn't make it into
Speaker 2: the top ten. The one movie that I just thought
Speaker 2: about that is not on the list and has to
Speaker 2: be listed, as I mentioned, is Precious, which was adapted
Speaker 2: by from Sapphire's book Push. Now that did not mean
Speaker 2: the top ten, but and if you think about it,
Speaker 2: it's culturally significant because for that performance, So I mean,
Speaker 2: it was more recognizing a lot of people. Precious one
Speaker 2: of those films that I don't think I've ever watched
Speaker 2: it twice. I've watched it once, but it is soh
Speaker 2: stark in its direction and story that it's it's a
Speaker 2: really tough film to watch over and over again. And
Speaker 2: that's probably one of the reasons why it didn't make
Speaker 2: it into the top Ten's it's a really good movie.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of significance, but it's a tough movie
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, yeah, agree. So let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: The first I'm gonna give you a chance to get
Speaker 1: some water, because we sounding like I'm not getting full
Speaker 1: Charles Kirkland did it sounds like it's it's on sound stuff,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, is that brother? Is he alright?
Speaker 1: He needs you need a glass of water over there?
Speaker 1: All right? So let me yeah do that. So all right,
Speaker 1: so let's go down some of these honorable mentions. So
Speaker 1: you've mentioned too, Black Panther and Precious Glory was another
Speaker 1: film that was an honorable mention based on letters from
Speaker 1: Robert Gould. Now this is also a lot of these
Speaker 1: that are outside are because to your point, Charles, that
Speaker 1: the source material that we're honoring or acknowledging today are
Speaker 1: those that were written by the Black pen. Right. So
Speaker 1: either they couldn't crack the top ten because they weren't
Speaker 1: either significant enough to scale the ten that are there,
Speaker 1: or they had authors or the writers who initially weren't
Speaker 1: African American, even if the subject matter may have been
Speaker 1: African American.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's an example. The next one is a good example,
Speaker 1: Native Son. Right. Native Son is a Richard Wright book
Speaker 1: written by brother, and it's been adapted twice, both in
Speaker 1: eighty six and then in twenty nineteen. Nineteen eighty six
Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen a good book, but just outside of
Speaker 1: that top ten range. Charles, you also have The Immortal
Speaker 1: Life of Henrietta Lax, which was adapted from Rebecca S.
Speaker 1: K l o O telling book start Over Winfrey outside.
Speaker 2: Think about the more Life of Henrietta Lax. It's I mean,
Speaker 2: we were talking about movies really, so this one and
Speaker 2: the next one you'll probably mentioned, which both start Over Winfrey.
Speaker 2: We're actually television, either television movies or television serials, and
Speaker 2: that will also explain why it's not on the top
Speaker 2: ten of I.
Speaker 1: Was great to say that because Roots Roots is amazing. Man. Like,
Speaker 1: if we did a list of of TV adaptations, that's
Speaker 1: a different story.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, So hold on, so let me just double check.
Speaker 1: Do we have any TV adaptations on here?
Speaker 2: Nope, you're not. Oh that was closed?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah one, well y'all won. But it's a
Speaker 1: movie that was on television. Wow. Yeah, whoa, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get in trouble. I can see the angry
Speaker 1: letters Roots, Roots, Roots, That's all I'll say. Roots is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Roots is fantastic. So thank you, Charles. The Eyes were
Speaker 1: watching God from Zora Neil Hurston Queen adapted from Alex
Speaker 1: Haley The Learning Tree. You know, Gordon park semi Arto
Speaker 1: Bryah graphical movie from nineteen sixty nine, Losing Isaiah, which
Speaker 1: was the seth Mark Goolis novel. And last, but not least,
Speaker 1: for honorable mentions for colored girls, right, Tyler Perry's adaptation
Speaker 1: of Into Saki Shot Gays choreo palm. I've never heard
Speaker 1: of described in that way, but I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I read that choreo palm.
Speaker 2: Wow, whatever that means?
Speaker 1: All right, Charles, So before we get into top ten
Speaker 1: Roots Wow? Now what we can explain about Roots which
Speaker 1: might be different as we get to this list, because
Speaker 1: I just want to double check something. Okay, Roots, I
Speaker 1: will say didn't make the list because while we do
Speaker 1: have a television movie on the list, it is a
Speaker 1: television movie, not a television limited series. There you go, Charles,
Speaker 1: That's why Roots didn't make the list. Roots happened over
Speaker 1: seven nights, where everything else on this list happened in
Speaker 1: a single night. When me double check, I want to
Speaker 1: make sure, uh huh uh huh. Yes. So that's why
Speaker 1: Roots didn't make the list because Roots is too obvious
Speaker 1: to miss. Right, if we're talking about adaptation, it's just
Speaker 1: too obvious, right, So there would be a reason it missed.
Speaker 1: So so please do not send me angry emails. Go
Speaker 1: what's over?
Speaker 2: Roots?
Speaker 1: Roots? Seven nights, everything else, single night? All right, Charles?
Speaker 2: So you ready, I have to do a television adaptations
Speaker 2: that's down in television series that's made down the line somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, man. I mean we got some other
Speaker 1: stuff in the hopper that we haven't finished, that we
Speaker 1: talked about the day. So we always got lists, all right, Charles,
Speaker 1: So this comes and I would say no particular order,
Speaker 1: but we have to always order it because we gotta
Speaker 1: do this. So coming into number ten, Charles on our
Speaker 1: list of the top ten black cinema adaptations is the
Speaker 1: autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman. Charles, do you remember watching
Speaker 1: this as a kid?
Speaker 2: What? I can't remember how young I was when I
Speaker 2: saw this INFANTIL had to watch it again as I
Speaker 2: got older because the significance of what I was watching
Speaker 2: just went over my head. It was one of those things.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like Roots in that it was
Speaker 2: to watch, but it didn't feel it like.
Speaker 1: What I mean, Man, I remember watching this and I
Speaker 1: might have been I'm not gonna tell you my age,
Speaker 1: but I watched this when it first dropped, right, and
Speaker 1: what I didn't understand because I was so young, I
Speaker 1: didn't get the nuance of it. You gotta remember she
Speaker 1: is being interviewed by a journalist and she is a
Speaker 1: hundred and ten years old. So the makeup that they
Speaker 1: used in this, because it it didn't look like it
Speaker 1: was not realistic. I mean, it was based on a
Speaker 1: true story, Like it was not based on a true story,
Speaker 1: but it's based on the novel of this slave in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties who had been a slave since the eighteen hundreds, right,
Speaker 1: and she wasn't a slave as we were watching it,
Speaker 1: and like this movie came out in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1: But her recounting her story of her going from an
Speaker 1: enslaved person to a person who gained her freedom and
Speaker 1: all the things that she saw, Cinicely Tyson to me, Charles,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this, and she has been acknowledged as
Speaker 1: one of our summer madness folks. That she's Sicely Tyson
Speaker 1: as an actress is just phenomenal and a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are younger didn't get an opportunity to see
Speaker 1: films like Sounder and see her in the Autobiography of
Speaker 1: Jane Pittman and didn't get I mean you saw her
Speaker 1: and some older stuff that she might have done with
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry or some stuff that she you know, she
Speaker 1: was on, you know, with Viola Davis and How to
Speaker 1: Get Away with Murder. But you guys didn't see the best.
Speaker 2: Of Sists Help. She was in The Help.
Speaker 1: And The Help. Yeah, you didn't see the best of
Speaker 1: Sicely Tyson. You didn't see young Cicely Tyson, who was
Speaker 1: really knocking it out the park man. I mean, she
Speaker 1: was a dark skinned system, so it wasn't about her
Speaker 1: being fair skins. She just had talent. And in this
Speaker 1: movie her playing you know, like four or five different
Speaker 1: iterations of her life. Man of telling this story the
Speaker 1: Autobiography of Jane Pittman with it ending with that fantastic
Speaker 1: scene where she drinks out of a whites only found
Speaker 1: because you know, it was still segregated in her part
Speaker 1: of the South as she's telling the story. I think
Speaker 1: she lived in the story from like eighteen fifties to
Speaker 1: like something like sometime in the eighteen fifties to like
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, which is a story.
Speaker 2: She was one hundred and ten years old when they
Speaker 2: were making the film. I remember that right.
Speaker 1: So that finish, I'll start off by saying that that
Speaker 1: was number ten as one of our favorite adaptations, one
Speaker 1: of our best top ten adaptations. Do you want to
Speaker 1: do number nine jobs.
Speaker 2: Or I can do number nine, which is Tony the
Speaker 2: adaptation of Tony Morrison's classic book beloved Wow Wow h
Speaker 2: which I mean free and Glover and fantastic story. It's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting that we have. It's another slave story,
Speaker 2: but it's a breaking work. It's even nominated for Oscar
Speaker 2: and I remember that back in the day. So this
Speaker 2: was a classic book that was retold in the story
Speaker 2: that was moving and touching and had some horror, and
Speaker 2: you know it was it was. It was an experience.
Speaker 1: I want to put Dan, Dewie Newton, and Kimberly Elise
Speaker 1: along with be Richards and Oprah Winfrey and Danny Glover Man.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because you think about some of
Speaker 1: these books and you will talk about them on the show.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of you notice there are a lot
Speaker 1: of women or at least his balance with as many
Speaker 1: women that have novels on here as there are men. Right,
Speaker 1: So when you talk about the source novel from Tony
Speaker 1: Marris and Tony Marrison has so many really good books
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if a lot of them have
Speaker 1: been adapted, right, But Love It is a classic that's
Speaker 1: like an amazing book and it was one of Oprah
Speaker 1: Winfrey's favorites. And the fact that they were able to
Speaker 1: pull the movie together, I still say, though, Charles, even
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Demi at the head of this movie, right,
Speaker 1: like as the director of the story, it's a story
Speaker 1: that I think was really hard to adapt. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if the story went over people's heads, right, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not It's not like it's like whoa entertainment? But
Speaker 1: Love It, We Love It is a hard story man
Speaker 1: to watch, you know.
Speaker 2: And you know, Jonathan Demmy, I think he did an
Speaker 2: interesting job at telling the whole story. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the same guy who did the Silence of the
Speaker 2: Lamb and Silence of the Lambs in Philadelphia, so he's
Speaker 2: he's had this ability to to tell these stories that
Speaker 2: are kind of dark and oh, but somehow he I
Speaker 2: think he did miss some things that it was going through.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but again, the source material was so rich
Speaker 2: and deep that it's hard to capture every aspect of
Speaker 2: the story, and I think he did a good job
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 1: You know, I just thought of another honorable mention, a
Speaker 1: lesson before Dying, which I love that movie Man by
Speaker 1: Earnest Gains. That didn't make yeh list. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just so many of these really good adaptations. So up
Speaker 1: next is August Wilson's My Rainey's Black Bottom. Now I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this because I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I have had the sincere honor of having seen all
Speaker 1: ten of the plays in the August Wilson's Century cycle,
Speaker 1: all Teim, Jim of the Ocean, Radio Golf Jitney, I've
Speaker 1: seen them all right, Thank God for living in Washington,
Speaker 1: DC and the Kennedy Center pre you know who. So
Speaker 1: let's just start there, right. So this adaptation, which of
Speaker 1: course is notable as the final film from the great
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman, who literally should have won the Oscar down
Speaker 1: to the point Charles that they shifted the order that
Speaker 1: year to announce Best Support Awarding Actor last and he
Speaker 1: didn't win. So I apologize for still being salty for
Speaker 1: that brother over my shoulder right there, who did not
Speaker 1: win an Oscar, even posthumously, for what I thought was
Speaker 1: just a courageous and brave performance in this story anchored
Speaker 1: by Biola Davis, starring Coleman Domingo and Michael Potts and
Speaker 1: Glenn Turnman, about this band that backed up my raining,
Speaker 1: And so I thought, this is one of the few
Speaker 1: directed by George C. Wilson that you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: three adaptations of August Wilson's films, right, so of course
Speaker 1: we and one or two of them may end up
Speaker 1: on the list. So of course this one. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go into the other ones now because I don't
Speaker 1: want to preference some of the other ones that may
Speaker 1: come up. But I really like my Rainey's Black Bottom.
Speaker 1: And to me, despite there's so much talent, and that
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman was just electric and to find out how
Speaker 1: sick he was to to have me to have given
Speaker 1: us that performance, and it's just it's just I have
Speaker 1: no words for it.
Speaker 2: Charles say that he was acting because he was acting,
Speaker 2: which I mean, so which brings a level of I
Speaker 2: mean now that we know, what's going on in his
Speaker 2: life just makes the performance that he put on the
Speaker 2: screen just that much more spectacular and and and it's
Speaker 2: that much more of a shame that he not not
Speaker 2: received recognition that he should have at that time. And
Speaker 2: there's no going back. There's something that can do about it.
Speaker 1: Nope, all right, So Charles coming into number seven, man,
Speaker 1: uh is a is a Black classic, The Wiz Man
Speaker 1: Uh you know, directed by Sendla le May, adapted from
Speaker 1: the Bomb novel. Now this one is interesting, right now, Charles,
Speaker 1: we set up a criteria and it's clear to me
Speaker 1: that this is one that's snuck in. It should not
Speaker 1: have been on the list. Let mean, I'm just keeping
Speaker 1: it real, man, Like I do the research, man, and
Speaker 1: sometimes we miss. The Wiz should not be on this list, man,
Speaker 1: because the Wiz source material is not African American in nature.
Speaker 1: And despite the fact that they made a film that
Speaker 1: a lot of people revere today, I don't think it
Speaker 1: aged well. I'm just keeping it real. I watched it
Speaker 1: recently and I was like, green, the color is green.
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, cue. So Charles, go ahead, man.
Speaker 2: Saying you're talking about the source material. But even the
Speaker 2: play that was written based off the source material was
Speaker 2: written by a white man as well, so that the
Speaker 2: best thing we can talk about is that it was
Speaker 2: that cute did the music, and that it's the all
Speaker 2: black cast, and you know it's a celebrated film in
Speaker 2: our circles. But yeah, it got pasted both of us
Speaker 2: to be on this list.
Speaker 1: All right, So holdant to saying I'm gonna throw audible
Speaker 1: real quick and replace the whiz with A Lesson Before Dying?
Speaker 1: How about that? A Lesson Before Dying is the story
Speaker 1: of a school teacher, Grant Wiggins played by Don Cheetle,
Speaker 1: who is asked by his grandmother, who's Tatulou played by
Speaker 1: cisly Tyson. We just talked about sistly Tyson again, who
Speaker 1: fires out that a young black man has been falsely
Speaker 1: accused of killing a white shot owner and she knowing
Speaker 1: that there's nothing that they can do Charles to reverse
Speaker 1: the accu I mean to reverse the charges, but for
Speaker 1: him to go in and die with dignity. And man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I remember this movie came out in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. I don't know how old I was.
Speaker 1: I cry like a baby watching A Lesson Before dying. Man.
Speaker 1: I just thought he said, have you seen this movie recently?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, oh my god, man, that last scene
Speaker 1: when you gotta watch the movie. But what happens is
Speaker 1: that he's a school teacher and once the class finds
Speaker 1: out that that final scene when they bring the kids
Speaker 1: to the jail and they have to say goodbye, wow wow.
Speaker 1: So a lesson before dying. Put that one on the list.
Speaker 1: Take he's on down the road off the list, and.
Speaker 2: We are yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had to call it audible, man, to
Speaker 1: make sure we got back on point because I didn't
Speaker 1: want people coming for me. Man. I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: do number six, man, because this is a good one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Number six based on James Baldwin's novel, directed by
Speaker 2: the tour Mary Jenkins. We have twenty eighteen's If Bill
Speaker 2: Street Could Talk? Uh beal Street talks a very as
Speaker 2: a gripping and tragic romantic story about a young gentleman.
Speaker 2: And it looks like we're trolling the same kind of
Speaker 2: tropes here because just like get a lesson for dying, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, things are going well for this gentleman who
Speaker 2: gets convicted of a crime that he didn't commit. And
Speaker 2: so it's it's a lot of the same things you
Speaker 2: have Keiki Lane and Stephan James. Regina King is also
Speaker 2: in this film. Won yeah.
Speaker 1: For her performance in this film, man, So.
Speaker 2: You're right, I forgot. I forgot all about that. I
Speaker 2: knew she remember her being in it, but I forgot
Speaker 2: that she won an Oscar for it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a fantastic film, Uh, miracle and its presentation. It's just
Speaker 2: a beautiful film to watch it. Even though it's one
Speaker 2: of the one of the most tragic stories you can
Speaker 2: you can hear about. It's not as tragic as that
Speaker 2: scene any of us and for dying, but it is
Speaker 2: a moving tale and Barry Jenkins put his foot on
Speaker 2: in that story.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, man, let's get the number five and
Speaker 1: again we returned back to the master August Wilson for
Speaker 1: Fences Man and this one directed by Denzel Washington. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I'll just say again, I know I just said
Speaker 1: this a couple of minutes ago when I talked about
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman and another August Wilson adaptation. Denzel Washington should
Speaker 1: have won the Oscar along with Vi Davis Viola Davis
Speaker 1: won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress. In this, Denzel
Speaker 1: Washington should have won the Oscar for Best Actor, losing
Speaker 1: to Manchester's By the Sea. What is his name? Ac
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington should have four Oscars. This should have at
Speaker 1: least been three, right this cause you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: win for Malcolm Max. He didn't win for this film,
Speaker 1: and I think this one bothered him because I really
Speaker 1: thought he thought he should have won for this one
Speaker 1: as well. But this story man based on August Wilson's
Speaker 1: book with a role originated by James Earl Jones on Broadway,
Speaker 1: and the son in it played by Courtney b. Vance
Speaker 1: in this version is Denzel Washington. And I don't remember
Speaker 1: the young actor who played his son in this, but
Speaker 1: Viola Davis is in this and she's fantastic and she
Speaker 1: won the Oscar. Denzel Washington, you know, he is an
Speaker 1: actor that we acknowledge with our series. As you can
Speaker 1: see his face behind me. Denzel Washington is simply one
Speaker 1: of the greatest actors of his generation. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say he's the best. He's one of the best actors
Speaker 1: of his generation. And he is a super duper double
Speaker 1: threeat right, it's not just about. He has marquis amazing looks,
Speaker 1: but he has the skills to match his looks. Denzel
Speaker 1: Washington is the man. This guy's been a leading man
Speaker 1: for forty plus years. Well, let me take that back.
Speaker 1: He's been a leading man for thirty plus years because
Speaker 1: he didn't become a leading man officially until probably Jungle Feever,
Speaker 1: I mean not Jungle Fee More Better Blues, because after
Speaker 1: More Better Blues he never did supporting anymore. Because remember
Speaker 1: there was a Soldier Story, Power, Cry, Beloved, Freedom, Mighty Quinn,
Speaker 1: Glory and all those rolls, and then after that Denzel Washington,
Speaker 1: they was like put him as number one on the
Speaker 1: call sheet, and after that he was number one on
Speaker 1: the call sheet from like nineteen ninety one or ninety
Speaker 1: two to now, I mean serious, like and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: mo Bunny Blues nineteen ninety. So Denzel Washington has been
Speaker 1: a leading man from nineteen ninety to today. So that's
Speaker 1: like thirty five straight years of being number one on
Speaker 1: the call sheet. Every time you call Denzel Washington up
Speaker 1: to be in a film, he's number one on the
Speaker 1: call seat man. And there's a reason that he resonates
Speaker 1: and fences resonate so much. His performance was fantastic in
Speaker 1: that film. Man, all right, Charles, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: do I'm gonna have to skip you and go to
Speaker 1: number four. And I'm only going here because this is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite performances again of all time from
Speaker 1: the great Sidney Poitier and Lorraine hands Berry's are Raisin
Speaker 1: in the Sun?
Speaker 2: How do you? How come you get all the acting
Speaker 2: icons you just did Denzail on now you want to do?
Speaker 1: Sidney, Sir, my birthday is coming up in a couple
Speaker 1: of days. Let me have some fun on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Is that by car Houlding the birthday car Look look
Speaker 1: a Raisin in the Sun? Ruby d the late great
Speaker 1: Diane sans Claudia McNeil masterpiece. Uh we did? We did
Speaker 1: a rundown about nineteen ninety nine of the one hundred
Speaker 1: Greatest Black Films of All Time and Raising in the
Speaker 1: Sun finished number one. We need to probably go back
Speaker 1: and do that list again. But this if if Denzel
Speaker 1: Washington's greatest performance is in Malcolm X, Sidney Potier's greatest
Speaker 1: performance to me was in this film where he played
Speaker 1: Walter Lee Younger and Charles that scene when his business
Speaker 1: partner comes to his house and talks about going up
Speaker 1: to Springfield to spread some money around, and the guy
Speaker 1: took their money and Charles, you've heard me.
Speaker 2: Do this on the show Willy.
Speaker 1: Not with dad money. Willie whoa Denzel I mean Denzel
Speaker 1: Sidney partier toured the force in this film and it
Speaker 1: also co starred a very young young Lewis Goatson Jr.
Speaker 1: Who he called them with them effiity white shoes on
Speaker 1: that I can't say the word now, but it was
Speaker 1: in style in sixty one. But so that what what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts and impressions about Raisin in the Sun.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm not don't have time to talk about the
Speaker 2: raising and Raisin in the Sun because we still got
Speaker 2: some other film sold. Let's let's keep moving. I think
Speaker 2: he did it well enough.
Speaker 1: All right, sir. Coming into number three, man is The
Speaker 1: Color Purple, another movie that was based on Alice Walker's
Speaker 1: novel which has had two adaptations, in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: which is My Color Purple, the remake in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: The Real Color Purple.
Speaker 1: Stop it, man, I'm just being nice, but Color Purple
Speaker 1: man launched the careers of E Got Winner Whoope Goldberg,
Speaker 1: of course, Oprah Winfrey, Uh, Lawrence Fishburne is in this movie.
Speaker 1: A young Raydn Chong. God, man, this is so many
Speaker 1: Adolph Caesar, Danny Glover, this is so much. These these
Speaker 1: are iconic films. Man, But go ahead, Charles Mark, you
Speaker 1: can keep on going there. I forgot about her My
Speaker 1: Apologies and miss Avery.
Speaker 2: Directed by the original directed by Steven Spielberg, It's good Dominations,
Speaker 2: and came away.
Speaker 1: With no no.
Speaker 2: This was this was like the Travesty's in in uh
Speaker 2: history and my and I could how do you get
Speaker 2: eleven nominations and not with one or not a single one?
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 1: Tied with the turning point from nineteen seventy seventy only
Speaker 1: two films are the two most nominated films. Both of
Speaker 1: them got eleven nominations, took home nada, and Steven Spielberg
Speaker 1: would be redeemed less than ten years later when Schindler's
Speaker 1: List came out and they was like, oh well, never mind,
Speaker 1: I'm not going down that road. That's another conversation coming
Speaker 1: in at number two. Charles said this earlier about Precious,
Speaker 1: which was an honorable mention. Here's another one off is
Speaker 1: what I call these films. Solomon north Room's memoir directed
Speaker 1: by Stephen McQueen from twenty thirteen, Twelve Years of Slave, Charles,
Speaker 1: I remember you and I have talked about this. I
Speaker 1: went to the screening to see this movie and I
Speaker 1: still describe it the exact same way today as I
Speaker 1: did twelve years earlier. It felt like sitting on a
Speaker 1: roller coaster that you couldn't get off of, and I
Speaker 1: remember sliding down in my seat. Man. And my tagline
Speaker 1: today is the same as twenty thirteen. It's the closest
Speaker 1: one can experience slavery with or being an enslaved person
Speaker 1: without being an enslaved person. Like it or love it,
Speaker 1: light it or hate it. Steve McQueen did a powerful
Speaker 1: adaptation of this felt powerful to this day, Charles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you compared it to the bull coaster,
Speaker 2: But coasts are fun. This is this is like a
Speaker 2: house of course, you know, you go into the mirrors,
Speaker 2: the mirrors, and it's just scary the whole time. This
Speaker 2: movie is just like the most intense and press a
Speaker 2: film that you could ever experience. And Mike, you said,
Speaker 2: it's hard to watch this one the second time. I
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever even touched it the second time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's yeah, it's it's number two
Speaker 2: for a reason. Wow, but yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 1: Well. Number one, man, God, you know how many times
Speaker 1: can we talk about this one movie on our show?
Speaker 1: But we got to do it again. The number one,
Speaker 1: you know, number one adaptation of a of a novel
Speaker 1: to the screen is Malcolm X. All right, and Charles,
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about Malcolm X. Man, I
Speaker 1: think it's Denzel Washington. You just heard me say earlier
Speaker 1: that you know. It's It's interesting that the two actors
Speaker 1: that are the most revered in our community, Sir Sidney
Speaker 1: Poitier and Denzel Washington's best performances are on this list, right.
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington is the anchor of Malcolm X. The movie
Speaker 1: is three hours in nineteen minutes. He's on screen like
Speaker 1: three hours of it, bare minimal. We see him as Red,
Speaker 1: we see him as young Malcolm in prison, we see
Speaker 1: him as el Hadje Malik Shabaz at the end, Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1: I think halfway through the movie. I always tell people
Speaker 1: he stopped being Denzel Washington. He was Malcolm X. Even
Speaker 1: Spike Lee talks about man. There was some scenes that
Speaker 1: we had where I didn't even say cut and he
Speaker 1: just kept going. It was almost like Malcolm's spirit channel
Speaker 1: through Denzel in the making of this movie. The fact
Speaker 1: that he did not win the Oscar for this and
Speaker 1: al Pacino, who had been nominated six previous times, one
Speaker 1: for Scent of a Woman still to me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was ready to say that still to me, along with
Speaker 1: Casey ad flack One and some other ones. If you
Speaker 1: have a list of the biggest omissions in Oscar history,
Speaker 1: this is absolutely on the list. And it's a fantastic
Speaker 1: film that gave us Delroy Lindo, gave us al Freeman Junior,
Speaker 1: gave us Albert Hall a young Angela Bassett as Betty Shabbaz,
Speaker 1: a role she would reprize again about four years later
Speaker 1: in Panther. There's just so much in this movie that
Speaker 1: Spike Lee got right and it's a fantastic adaptation. Charles,
Speaker 1: go ahead, man.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know, you talk about the
Speaker 2: Aino winning the award instead of Denzel at nice al Pacino,
Speaker 2: the Heights of Oscar with Casey Afflecka. He's never gotten
Speaker 2: back to them to that level. Again. So it's you know,
Speaker 2: some people can kind of explain the Alpuchino Ward as
Speaker 2: a lifetime achievement thing, but it really comes across as
Speaker 2: you guys are really not seeing this movie. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of things happened in the Academy because
Speaker 2: of reaction that from this film. But people just aren't
Speaker 2: watching these black films, and there's no sit through this
Speaker 2: film and not recognize how powerful. And it was not
Speaker 2: just for and Sail, but for also for Spike, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, this is the magnum opus. This is the
Speaker 2: number one of all time for as a black cinema adaptation,
Speaker 2: and for a good reason.
Speaker 1: All right, man, we got about less than ten minutes ago,
Speaker 1: and normally when we had to do reviews we would
Speaker 1: freak out because we wouldn't have enough time. But guess what, Charles,
Speaker 1: We now have the film Gordon dot com where all
Speaker 1: these reviews are up. We're just kind of going lazing
Speaker 1: over this. If you want to read the full reviews
Speaker 1: of what we're about to talk about, they're all on
Speaker 1: the site. Man, So I'm good with that. Sore you ready,
Speaker 1: Let's just have a little discussion about some of these movies,
Speaker 1: and like I said, the reviews are already there. Man,
Speaker 1: all right? So first up this week, Man is Eden, Right,
Speaker 1: a survival thriller set in the Galapagos Islands, directed by
Speaker 1: Ron Howard. Now, Charles, I thought, despite a strong cast
Speaker 1: Jude Law and the armist Vanessa Kirby Sidney Sweeney, this film,
Speaker 1: to me, struggled to balance this historical fact based narrative
Speaker 1: with character, leaving it visually impressive but dramatically uneven. Charles,
Speaker 1: did you get a chance to see this movie yet?
Speaker 2: Did get a chance to see this movie? Yes? Indeed,
Speaker 2: And I agree totally with you. There there's a lot
Speaker 2: of good things to look at, but the substance is
Speaker 2: not there. So I agree that it's wealth shot, it's
Speaker 2: well directed, but there's some narrative issues that are missing
Speaker 2: for me in this film. And I think you're Tim
Speaker 2: Bourdon is having a moment think because he grated this
Speaker 2: film higher than I would have. But go ahead and
Speaker 2: tell me what your break was first seaminess. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I gave it a C minus. It's good to look at,
Speaker 2: but its substance and like I said, it is not there,
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of hard to follow at times.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well. I gave the film a C plus, man, because
Speaker 1: I thought that it had some elements that that I
Speaker 1: thought worked, But overall I just thought that it you know,
Speaker 1: if you think about it as a garment, they just
Speaker 1: never strung it together that we can walk out of
Speaker 1: the theater and wear it. You know. It just felt
Speaker 1: like it's just falling all off me. Man, So eating
Speaker 1: in theaters this weekend, Man, you can check it out
Speaker 1: up next. Man is a film that Charles and I
Speaker 1: both set a couple of seats away from each other
Speaker 1: and watched a couple of nights ago, called Honey Don't
Speaker 1: and of course as Ethan Cohen's follow up to his
Speaker 1: lesbian B movie trilogy with his wife Tricia Cook, and
Speaker 1: it aims for a noir meets dark comedy starring Margaret Quality,
Speaker 1: many of you guys will remember from the Substance Arvey
Speaker 1: Plaza and Chris Evans. The film has moments of wit,
Speaker 1: but it's undone by total inconsistency, sloppy pacing, and characters
Speaker 1: who feel more like sketches than fully realize people. Charles Kirkland,
Speaker 1: what say you about Honey Don't?
Speaker 2: Since, like you said, it's a sequel to Totally to
Speaker 2: Drive Away Dolls, which also start Margaret Qualley, but in
Speaker 2: a totally different role. So there's no looking between the
Speaker 2: two films. And I really felt like there was no
Speaker 2: connection in the film itself. So there were a lot
Speaker 2: of times where I'm watching it and I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: going on? This was one of those movies where it
Speaker 2: was an experience to be there, and experience is a negative.
Speaker 2: It's only an hour and a half long, but it
Speaker 2: felt like two hours maybe two and a half, because
Speaker 2: it was just dragged and it just didn't give you anything.
Speaker 2: And I think to me that the title of the
Speaker 2: film is an advisory to the people who want to
Speaker 2: go see it. Honey don't.
Speaker 1: He stole my line, Man, I hate you so much, man,
Speaker 1: So what did you give the film? Man? D I
Speaker 1: gave it a D, all right, and so did I Man, So, honey,
Speaker 1: don't man, it is a serious D all right. And last,
Speaker 1: but not least, and I'm not even gonna say it,
Speaker 1: here's a film that I saw as sun Dance, And
Speaker 1: of course the film is called Lurker, right, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Alex Russell's psychological drama thriller and presses with his tension
Speaker 1: and style. And it features Theodore pellerin Archie Mamatic, Medocui
Speaker 1: and Quinn Say It Again, Queen thank You and Havana
Speaker 1: Rose Lou And it delivers a gripping exploration of a
Speaker 1: paranoia and fractured identity. Those slow burning it lingers long
Speaker 1: after the credits. Let me just give you a little background.
Speaker 1: So pretty much what Lurker is about is if you
Speaker 1: think about films like All about Eve right, about how
Speaker 1: some young person latches themselves onto an established person. In
Speaker 1: this case, this kid works in a retail store and
Speaker 1: a pop star walks in, and he gets the pop
Speaker 1: stars attention, and before long he has infiltrated the pop
Speaker 1: stars in a circle and everybody around the pop star
Speaker 1: Charles can see this kid is no good. That the
Speaker 1: man himself who as a story evolves, some things happen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. It's a brilliant film.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the films like if I had
Speaker 1: to do a top ten list of movies I saw
Speaker 1: at Sundance, this one would be on the list. As
Speaker 1: you can tell. For my grade, I gave it a
Speaker 1: B plus. And if you have an opportunity at some point.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep it a hundred with you right now,
Speaker 1: because this is what I do. I told people last
Speaker 1: night I've reached the age where I stopped lying to people.
Speaker 1: I would wait for this on a streaming platform. I
Speaker 1: would watch this if it comes to a platform. I'm
Speaker 1: not getting any money from the studio for this, so
Speaker 1: there's no reason for me to tell you I would
Speaker 1: not go to a theater to watch this. I would
Speaker 1: wait for this on a streaming platform. Now watch this
Speaker 1: as a president of a film critic association, as say association,
Speaker 1: please go see this movie at the theater. As Tim
Speaker 1: Gordon The Citizen Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, Apple is your friend
Speaker 1: with Lurker. Lurker is a good movie. But you've heard
Speaker 1: me say on this show every movie is not a
Speaker 1: movie that should be in theaters, or it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a film you gotta run to the theater to see.
Speaker 1: But Lurkers really good. I saw it in the theater.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do what I did, just.
Speaker 2: Saying pay for it, pay for it?
Speaker 1: Why this have a service? Pay for it? Just not
Speaker 1: to pay in the theater. You don't need the popcorn,
Speaker 1: the candy just need a movie. So those are the
Speaker 1: movies that are are that are all that will that
Speaker 1: are all in theaters on platforms this weekend. As I said,
Speaker 1: if you want to read the four reviews, please go
Speaker 1: over to the film gordon dot com. Charles Kirklin and
Speaker 1: Tim Gordon are over there doing some master work with
Speaker 1: these film. Charles, you realize we're over one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty reviews for the site and we haven't even gotten
Speaker 1: out of August yet. And remember we've got Tiff coming
Speaker 1: up next month. We got Middleburgh coming up. Charles doesn't
Speaker 1: know it yet and he's hearing it here for the
Speaker 1: first time in front of everybody. Tim Gordon did all
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting at Utah back in January, and he's
Speaker 1: doing the heavy lifting in Toronto next month. Charles Kirkland
Speaker 1: is gonna be a superman in October, and he knows
Speaker 1: exactly what that means. If I wrote all those reviews
Speaker 1: and those other two festivals, you got it, Because I'm
Speaker 1: going to Middleburgh this year, I would be like this
Speaker 1: challenge except it Okay, remember they're about I think there
Speaker 1: are forty films at Middleburgh and how many can you
Speaker 1: see it? Day? Charles, is it like I think they start?
Speaker 1: I think it's about four or five. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 1: say four movies a day, so that means the Thursday
Speaker 1: film and Friday Saturday. Yeah, Charles, you should be able
Speaker 1: to kick out fifteen? Can you do fifteen? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that just asking? I mean, I don't know. It's fifteen? Good?
Speaker 2: Oh man, fifteen? I can handle that.
Speaker 1: All right, child's accepted. We got a minute to go. Man,
Speaker 1: we can ready to get out of here. Man, any
Speaker 1: anything on the close, Charles. Before we wind it up.
Speaker 2: Make sure you check out the Black Real Awards for Television,
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Speaker 1: All right, and that wraps up today's big show. Make
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Speaker 1: Until next time, Keep it bold, keep it true, but
Speaker 1: always remember to keep it real. I'm Tim Gordon, that's
Speaker 1: Charles Kirkland. We out peace