Speaker 1: And Michael Rappaport has his Spartacus moment. Now this will
end in him being decapitated, but it is his Spartacus moment.
He says, what happened there? What you heard today, ladies
and gentlemen of this court. It was colluding, conniving, commiserating,
coldon and then says those those words all start with
the same.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, great opening statements.
Speaker 1: Hilo, looking too.
Speaker 3: That, Pat, Hey, Sorry, this one's late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's a little late. You know these do
they do these burst fire drops, and we just we
have too many children. We have three children between us. Yeah,
we'll make this good though. Oh yeah, and we have
to make it good because this is the last free
episode on bad TV.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I was gonna say one more because this
one was late. How about we give one more?
Speaker 1: You want to give them one more?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: One more? And then the rest of the season will
be so at Patreon dot com slash another podcast network.
So I just go over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this is where you sign up. So
after hearing this, go over to Patreon dot com slash
another podcast network, sign up for the five dollars tier.
There will be now three shows over there and you
might as well just do it now because Love is
Blind starts in two weeks. Yeah, so just be there
because a.
Speaker 1: Lot of fun stuff at Patreon. So we have episode five,
season four of Give Me Your Shoulder Taps please, right.
Speaker 3: Out of the gate. Yeah, can I address the mic rapaport?
Uh a drama?
Speaker 1: The I am Michael over there?
Speaker 3: You know how to keep secrets out of anybody in
this show? Okay, boy, he made a lot of waves,
mister homophobic over yes, yes, yes, okay, it even made
like TMZ is he a homophobe? Can I be Devil's
advocate here? Look if you think he's a homophobe because
he said that, fine whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to think you're bringing this up because
I'm glad that we're going to get into hot water
in the first three minutes. I don't think we're gonna
get in hot water because you could well, we've made
the same joke.
Speaker 3: That well, that's my point. But I would like to
ask the audience you ask yourself.
Speaker 1: This is just a test. This is why I'm saying
it's might be hot water because I fear you are
going to double No.
Speaker 3: I'm not doubling down. I'm asking the audience when you
were watching The Bachelor, ask yourself this honest question. Did
you think Colton thought he may be questioning whether or
not he might be, you know, questioning if you know,
into guys during that point, and.
Speaker 1: If the answer is very high standard for you to
put on that young man, he's questioning himself. So you're saying,
if you're questioning, you should remove yourself from the situation
on Okay.
Speaker 3: That's the second question. Okay, so answer honestly. Do you
think he was questioning or do you think, like a
light switch at the age of thirty two, he just
said I'm into guys.
Speaker 1: It happens.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but okay, okay.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: So if the answer is yes, the next question is
do you think he owed it to the people that
he would be because you know at the end of
that show you're supposed to get engaged. Do you think
he should have asked himself, if I am questioning this,
should I go on that show?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because you owe it to people that you're going to
be in an emotional relationship.
Speaker 1: Well, Pat, I would say the reality television is kind
of like a moth lamp for vapid people. So I
don't know that really that much foresight can go into
anybody's brain that's on the Bachelor.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough?
Speaker 1: What can I can I please say? I I I
understand why people would be offended at the accusation or
the teasing, given how difficult the process it is to
come out. Right. Colton, I think, is from a very
religious family, very Seventh Heaven kind of family. So I
imagine that while he has been questioning himself, it was
tough for him to come out. My point is that
I don't for a second bye that on let's say
the second season of Bachelor in Paradise or the latter
of the Bachelor in Paradise. There's no way that he
didn't have multiple partners who knew, Hey, that guy I've
fucking made out with.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, okay, So do I think Michael
Rapport should have framed it that way?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And that's why I got in the hot water. But
here's the thing, why does Colton get the grace that
he's just we need to believe that he didn't do
that right, So we just blindly believe that he couldn't
be that manipulative. We just all have to just say
how dare we even question his motives? Yeah, and I'll
say this, let me continue. Okay, okay, Dylan, have you
ever had a restraining order against you because you stalk
someone and then sent threatening text messages once or twice?
But the answer is no, and neither have I and
I'm sure Ruby hasn't either. Well he did, uh, Dylan,
let me ask you this. Yeah, have you ever bought
a burner phone and then sent text messages to your
phone of threatening nature and then said you were being
your life was in danger? You know who did? He did,
and he was forced to admit it. That's pretty crazy
manipulative behavior.
Speaker 1: Colton is a fucking asshole.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh no, no, no, I'm not done. And then
one year less than a year later, you have a
Netflix series about you coming out and you already have
a partner, and with that multiple accusations. I know, here's
say of people claiming as you had mentioned before I
went on the tramp, I mean that you had already
been mixing it up with guys prior, many years before.
How dare Michael Rappaport mentioned to the group that anybody
who can keep a secret, it might be you.
Speaker 1: Now, can I tell you something. Yes, I genuinely don't
think Michael Rappaport meant it that way. I genuinely do
not think he did.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry if I offend any I think, but
I think it was. And by the way, Michael Rappaport
can't get into these because these are short, little snippets.
But I really think Colton he kind of revels in
the fact that he could own this guy had.
Speaker 1: He had armor, and understand it, and I understand people's
impulse to allow him to wear that armor. If you
don't know a lot about Colton, someone should be afforded
a lot of room to come out as a homosexual
in in this day and age. But we know that
Colton is Colton is very Colton is just mean and
there's a moment and if I can get into my
shoulder shop.
Speaker 3: Oh, one last note of the very fact that, first off,
I can't stand Michael Rapaport, so I'm not defending him.
I'm saying anybody that would say, and I have said,
I think Colton was gay during the filming of those shows,
and I thought that was pretty fucking manipulative him, but
only for the reason that I thought he was playing
with people's hearts. You can come out whenever you want,
but I think it's ill advised to go on a
dating show where you're supposed to get engaged when you
kind of know that you're probably not into the ladies. Okay,
so I will say, by the way, no further questions,
you're on.
Speaker 1: I would give this episode seventy nine shoulder taps because
I thought the challenge was so fun, and we'll get
to the challenge not ta Gas this episode. Jam Jam
is a star. I mean he's so funny. Ron Funches,
who I have been quite right or die for, is
such a little piece of shit. I mean Ron's not,
but he is. I think Ron is suffering from some
transportation back to high school and the ostracization that he's
suffered there because he is like a rat in a corner.
He's being so mean and he's such a sweet guy.
Kristen is picking up on Colton throughout this episode, and
while she's wrong that he's a trader, she's correct in
that he is a fucking dick. Okay, so he is
just we'll get into Colton's gameplay. But Colton does not
come off very well this episode, and he's benefited handsomely
by going up against somebody who shovels food in their
mouth like a hippo, and who is loud and keeps
saying that he's good looking and he looks like an
Irish potato sack turned into a human being. So seventy
nine thought it was a good episode.
Speaker 3: Okay, Dylan, you touched on this, but you kind of
just glazed over it. I cannot believe how bad these
faithfuls are. They will name a list of people they
think are traders and not a single person on that list. Yeah.
Colton at some point named five people, not one of
them are traders. Right then, I think Drinda names a
couple people she thinks are traders. None of them are traders.
So does Kristen. None of them are traders. Ron, They
are missing everyone.
Speaker 1: That is a trader, Jam jam everyone. Yeah, all of
them are bad. The only one who's close, in fact,
right on the money we'll see at the end of
this episode is Colton himself with one.
Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, I know they got Mama Kelsey, but it
wasn't because they're good. I think it was because she
was just so bad. Yep, all right, I thought it
was a great episode. I'm gonna give it forty two
shoulder taps.
Speaker 1: We kick things off with breakfast, and once again we're
ravenous for the salmon. I don't know what is going
on with the salmon. People really love it.
Speaker 3: And hard boiled eggs. I gotta tell you, I surely
lose weight on the traders.
Speaker 1: Yes, what you wouldn't put it on there? What do
you eat for breakreo, pancakes, cottage cheese? You you have
cottage cheese for breakfast? Anything else or just spoonfuls out
of the tub built bar for lunch? Okay?
Speaker 3: And then a protein chocolate milk is a snack?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I have either a turkey sandwich, an avocado sandwich,
or cheese sandwich for dinner.
Speaker 1: So Eric is feeling bad because he is the child
of immigrants and he has been conditioned to take care
of people. I think that, well, that's nice, and I
think it's beautiful and real. You're you should also feel
bad because you literally dead ring or eliminated somebody based
on your expertise.
Speaker 3: Boy, I'm sounded like a real MAGA follower here of
this episode.
Speaker 1: One thing I know about you, it's that your maga.
Speaker 3: He tells us as an immigrant, he really understands how
important decisions are and how they affect other people. And uh,
I understand we're in a tornado of chaos in America
right now. Oh yeah, over immigration and other things. But
I think attempting to tie immigration and in any way
to the show Traders is the leap so far. I
don't think Evil Knievel uh would could jump it.
Speaker 1: Did he die doing stunts or did he balcoholism? Alcoholism
for sure. Yeah, I should have said.
Speaker 3: That there's a crazy jump he tried to do where
he knew he was gonna die, and he actually hugged
his children, which he never did because he was a
cold bastard. They put he had said he was going
to jump Grand Canyon. They put this fucker in a
rocket ship that they didn't even test yet, and they
just fire it up. Yeah, and it blew up in
the middle of the air, and thank god there was
a parachute and he just floated like down and he lived.
I don't think he could believe he lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're hopping motorcycles over buses, you have a
drinking problem big time.
Speaker 3: Well, what was funny is he was an alcoholic. Then
he'd survived.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things podcasting with Pat. You just
stumble into whirlpools of information that Pat seems to Yeah,
it's just crazy.
Speaker 3: All right. So he would fucking and he'd be drinking
before the jump, and he'd make the jump and then like,
I don't know who's the carcel whatever, I don't know. Well,
he'd come already like evil Knievo, you just survived the
biggest jump of your life. Oh, Howard Casa, what do
you have to say to the youth of America? And
he'd be like, I know you what I'm gonna say
right now, don't do drugs, And he'd be fucking loaded
up on Jack Daniels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well Jack Daniels has helped a lot
of people out. So they turn to Ron at Breakfast, who,
according to Derinda, is shady because he's not told anyone
about his family. This is my issue with uh with Derinda.
Dorinda's horrible at this game. Obviously very bad. I'm speaking
of people that jump over buses and motorcycles. She's a
little wet brand and she I'm getting very frustrated. We'll
get to this at the roundtable. But why is the
Porsche guess and the Porsche hit so important to these people?
I get why it's important to Candace because she sees
a dumb clue that a lot of people are playing
along with and has just stuck to that. Okay, but
for the faithful, what the fuck does it matter?
Speaker 3: And let me graft a reason why. Colton just did
the same fucking thing eight hours ago.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: He just did the same thing. So if it's bad
for Ron, it's bad for Colton.
Speaker 1: It's bad for Eric. What it's part of the game.
You get this shit wrong? What the fuck is the point?
And then he has not told me about his family, Dereinda,
you don't know anything about anyone's family. You didn't like
anything about Snake's family. Huh, you know about Snake's family.
Speaker 3: You didn't like at the round table when Ron kind
of said, I don't give a fuck what you think
about my family, it was just like it was a
little Agro liked it, all right, So we stay on.
This is when Colton, Christen says, she starts sniffing out
Colton not good, and then Colton proceeds to list five
people he believes to be traders.
Speaker 1: Colton is he's an evil little guy. You can tell
that he does not give a fuck what they did
last night to Tiffany. There are some people that are
genuinely busted up about this. Goldon sits down, he's drinking
his orange juice and is like, we gotta get it right,
and he's like, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, we'll get
it right. He does not give a shit, okay, which
is like, it's a listen, that's good gameplay. But these
kinds of shows reveal people. I mean, Johnny Bananas is
a disgusting human being. We've seen him. People on Survivor
make really gross moves and it's just part of the game.
Speaker 3: Okay. Colton is one of these. So he basically just
eliminated someone and he doesn't change change the way he's
going about the game.
Speaker 1: It's like a death a death sentence.
Speaker 3: In Trader, there's a movie based on a true story
called When We Were Soldiers. It's Mel Gibson. I forget
who the other guy is and at some point the
general they're surrounded by all these Vietnamese soldiers. He's just
got a pistol and there well, at some point he does,
but he's telling this guy who keeps firing this cannon.
At some point he fires a cannon and it lands
on their own. They're friendly, blows up this whole platoon
and he goes, h. The guy's freaked out. He's like,
I just killed a bunch of my friends, and he goes, no, soldier,
you're doing a great job. Keep going. He like the
guy anyway, He's like, just keep going, You're doing a
great job.
Speaker 1: I did not think that We Were Soldiers was gonna
get cited today, but I'm completely fine with it. We
Were Soldiers has two scenes that have really scarred me.
One lifting a man into a helicopter after a napalm strike,
the meat on his shin slides down to his ankles. Okay,
I forgot about that. And then the beginning of the
film is actually when the French are trying to lib
it rate some.
Speaker 3: Poor guys playing a fucking trumpet, you get shot in
the throat.
Speaker 1: So that was brutal, but war movies are about war,
and war is brutal. Anyways, Let's keep going and discuss
this next portion of the show wherein Michael bangs the
door after Candace saying he has nine lives. Jam, Jam
and Ron are there with him, and Ron is in
an orange duster that is maybe the most absurd single
garment of clothing I've ever seen worn by a human being.
Speaker 3: Well, you want to be remembered and you want to
make a statement.
Speaker 1: Ert Michael Rappaport says that people are finally starting to
get him and like him. Lo ol Michael.
Speaker 3: And by the way, is this when Michael precedes us
to tell us or explain his personality that he lives
in slop? Yeah, okay, that's pretty hilarious. I like to
know what part of Hancock Park in LA he's referring
to the slop area.
Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a New York guy. He certainly
doesn't live in slop.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a Hancock Park guy.
Speaker 1: He lives in Hancock Park.
Speaker 3: Yeah what, Yeah, he lives in Hancock Park. I used
to live and listen to his podcast before he fucking
lost his mind.
Speaker 1: Michael Rapport.
Speaker 3: I am Starah Parker, him and J Moody, his best friend.
I actually almost donated to J. Moody's new apartment because
he didn't have any money.
Speaker 1: And I tell you something, Michael Rappaport is annoying, But
I loved Michael Rappaport.
Speaker 3: When in the in twenty fifteen, six seventeen eighteen. My
wife and I used to listen on.
Speaker 1: That was good, Michael Rappaport.
Speaker 3: That was a great, so funny. Did you listen to me?
J Moody was on the podcast? Yeah, he had a
GoFundMe for J Moody's apartment. Uh and I honestly you
could donate like fifteen bucks to buy him a couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, average home cost of the sloppy area in
Hancock parking point four point seven. Right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Colton cried a lot on The Bachelor and Derin.
Speaker 3: I was gonna make one last point on Mike because
he is arrested development. I love dudes that are fifty
and still identify they're still tethered to their youth despite
their reality.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm still in slop. Yeah you were when you
were fourteen in Brooklyn, you idiot. Right now you live
in Hancock Park and you're a millionaire.
Speaker 1: And it's like, how is Michael Rapperford a millionaire?
Speaker 3: Uh? You know, he's he was in a lot of movies.
Speaker 1: He was in a lot of a lot of movies.
So Colton says that he's done crying. He cried enough
on the Bachelor, and we get to he his tenure
on the Bachelor, wherein he had not come out of
the closet yet while he was on the Bachelor, and Derinda,
in a very boomer kind of way, says, you went
on the Bachelor as a homosexual or something akin to that.
Speaker 3: Now this was she gets a pass for that, And
this was all I think it was Natalie, and then
Kristen chimed in. It was all very lighthearted and kind
of a fun way to kind of bring it out
and discuss it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you I don't want to get
hopped up in this and we've already you know, this
is already a sensitive subject to people, but so sorry
if this is offensive. But you can just tell that
Colton is kind of leaning into his role of the
mastery of his rule book, if that makes interesting interesting
And yeah, it's a little bit like, Okay, they are
gays that have come before you that were they really
went through shit and they were a little more, you know,
they were a little less this than you are. So anyways, hm,
there you go.
Speaker 3: Was that was that bad? Not at all?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and and.
Speaker 3: It comes in all shapes and colors. My wife and
I were doing this thing at this winery I belonged
to where we'd pay one hundred bucks to have this
four course dinner. We're sitting down next to this because
you just sit next to these people every experience, and
this these two lovely gay men. They're a couple, they've
been together for fifteen years. We're shit chatting with them,
and uh, you know, I hate politics, but somehow it
comes up and uh we start, uh forgive me. We
were talking a little shit on Trump or whatnot, and
they basically, uh chastised us, and they basically were maga.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of my favorite, one of my one of
my favorite well that I have met in the last
in the last couple of years was gay Mark. And
Mark was gay as a goose from Florida. Love Donald
Trump and knew that I was a lib And every
time I'm independent, by the way, every time he saw me,
he would shit on me about how Biden was decrepit
all this stuff. He was just complete maga and he
would he is a story about gay Mark. Mark was
a former Army reserve, so he would take hunting trips
into the central coast to go hunt rams, and one
day he brought a fellow service woman who was a
little overconfident in her ability. And what she did was
she shot a ram in a place that was not lethal.
So they had to huff down the mountain and arrive
at this ram that was screaming on the floor, and
she he was a little hesitant and didn't know what
to do. And that's where gay Mark stepped in and said,
fucking shoot it, bitch, and she did. Wow powerful, I
love I love Mark. I miss Mark. He was incompetent
and kind of mean. But anyways, it is revealed that
Money was killed the night before and it's the right kill. Okay,
he mentioned Lisa to Candace, he had to go.
Speaker 3: There was not even a need to discuss this kill.
Speaker 1: Nope, actoplasm on all these house Monette. I thought you,
I mean, would have been fun to have around. My God,
it's just that again, it's unbelievably.
Speaker 3: Candace is not feeling not well, bitch, not well, bitch.
Speaker 1: He trusted Candace and that's why he was gone. And
I've seen Candace on TV. I'm fairly convinced that she
doesn't have a heart, so I'm not buying it, But
can we say really quickly, somehow Candace is really flying
under the radar. I feel like people are more people
are more on to rob the snake Charmer than they
are Candace. I think both of them are like, really
doing well. I don't think Candace is.
Speaker 3: Ruby, who's not here. Unfortunately brought this up and it
hadn't I hadn't really picked up on it, but it
makes so much sense. The real Housewives are bigger than life,
so you can never really you can't figure him out
because they're always kind of play fighting, play acting, so
anything they do you can't really get pin them down
on anything, like nothing seems like it's out of place.
They're such fuck ups. Someone like Ron is like, huh,
he looks kind of odd over there. I don't know
who he is, right, Yeah, they're just they're tougher to
figure out.
Speaker 1: Tough to read. So we break from breakfast and we
see Kristen's gameplay. Lisa and Candice come to Kristin and
Lisa says that she's on Ron, and Kristin asks a
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stumbles and says, oh, for so many reasons, just ask
people why, because it's such a good way to snuff
out suspect behavior if at least gives you an opportunity
to see if a trader is just completely bullshitting, because
so often traders will just throw out people that the
wave is going towards them, right, and they're they're only
saying that because the wave is going towards them. So
ask people why why.
Speaker 3: That's a great I like that, I'm gonna use that.
I'm gonna use that. That's good. Always ask why why,
and when they can't come up with something, be very suspicious.
Speaker 1: So I think Kristen's great. She's she's wrong on Colton,
but she's right on I.
Speaker 3: Told you she's my favorite. She's my uh front front
running horse or whatever. No, Okay, Meanwhile, Mike Natalie in
the sex Robot Mara, Yeah, they fall into a trap
and snake what snake snake?
Speaker 1: Rob?
Speaker 3: Oh? Uh, they fall into the trap, which is someone
took a big swing the night before. I'm referring to Colton.
Therefore they must be a trader. Uh to go out
take a big chance like that. Uh, traders don't generally
do that. No, no, no, no, you want to make
as little noise as possible.
Speaker 1: Good traders wouldn't do that, right. So, Ron, who is
just not good at this game, thinks that it's Michael
and Derinda. He has not gotten one trader right, and
it's he says it's the two of them, for sure.
It's not the two of them for sure. Now Colton
is trying to whip up another vote against Ron, and
Kristin tracks something. Colton is behaving like a trader.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 1: Kristin knows that Ron has been good enough in the challenges,
good enough to where you wouldn't you wouldn't point out
that he's been bad in challenging.
Speaker 3: I was going to bring this up on the last
podcast we did. I'd never heard that as a factor
or reason to keep someone around before in gameplay, which is,
they can keep us making money, so let's keep them around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I don't think. I don't
think it's ever an excuse why somebody is a trader, really,
or I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3: No, it's not an excuse why they're a trader. You
could think they're a trader, but let's not eliminate them yet.
Let the cash, yeah, pile up first.
Speaker 1: Right, But it would seem as though Coulton is just
pulling stuff out of his ass to frame Ron for something.
And Kristen picks up on this, it's just a Colton's mean,
he's not a trader?
Speaker 3: Might I point out? So in this little segment of
after the Alan Cummings thing before we go out on
the mission, there were four specific conversations that they split
off into and I looked at all four, every single
conversation where they were discussing who is the trader? Every
single one. They did not pick a single trader correctly.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, we could we could throw the
rule book at Colton. He's going after Portia, Tiffany, and Ron,
all people of color. Why is that, Colton? Why'd you
do that? Anyways, let's get to a challenge. This is
how you do a challenge. We're getting statues. We're putting
them in blood or something. It's spewing blood all over
the place, all right, But there's a good wrinkle to
this challenge. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry I get mired down in detail sometimes,
you know. I work in the water feature business, is
one of my side hustles. I'm looking at this castle
and I'm seeing this beautiful water fountain that looks like,
I don't know, it could be at least fifty years old,
maybe eighty. And I'm seeing this goddamn cheap rubber liner
uh strewn about, and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
And I am like confounded by it this entire segment.
And then I see that fucking die colored fucking water
come out of there, and I said, answered.
Speaker 1: Can't stain the marble.
Speaker 3: They could not stain the marble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I brought that up. No, no, no, it's fine.
I appreciate you bringing it up. I mean, when you
have a deep niche insight into something and you got
to bring it up.
Speaker 3: But I figured, at least I don't know eighty five
of the listeners percent were by asking themselves that the
same question.
Speaker 1: It's important to feel seen when you're listening to your
favorite podcasters exactly. Okay, So I hope you didn't miss
the forest for the trees though, because here we have
a really fun shield dynamic wherein the whole can abstain
and save the entire cast from murder, or you can
get shields, conceal them and protect yourself. Now, I'm not
sure if they've done this before, but it's interesting Colton
immediately wants to break form.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this isn't edit. I'm sure there
are plenty of people that wanted to do this too,
and we saw a couple. Derinda, Colton, and Natalie are
the three people that we see being a little wishy
washy about this. But Colton is really framed as the
one who's really tempted by it.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you why he's stupid?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I I would think that only a trader would play
this that stupid. Like for me, it would speak like
a trader who doesn't think they're going to get killed
would do this because everyone else would be thinking, why
would you do this? This goes against the code of
all of us. But a trader would say, like, I
don't have to worry about any of this, right, right right,
at least my mind would be reverse engineering.
Speaker 1: If they did that, though, they would be up for banishment.
But the thing is that it's I don't know how
concealed or not concealed this is going to be. So
if you take a shield, you.
Speaker 3: Know, will they will the rest find out? Yeah? Or
will Allen just say someone took a shield?
Speaker 1: Right? And I think that's likely what's going to happen,
But you would have to think so many steps ahead
if you're going to make that decision calculated. But my
thing is, Candice and Rina, I believe are in a
position where people want to take shields and this is
an opportunity for them as traders. I'm wondering if you
just go take the shields, let them take the shields,
and try to use that information to get those people
out later. I'm not sure you open the house up
for a kill and then you can start planting Johnny
ware took shield. I have a feeling he took a shield.
I don't know, but maybe you just play it safe
and live to fight another day. Now we get back
to the house, they win the challenge lots of money.
Who knows if anybody took shields or not. At this
point we get back to the house.
Speaker 3: By the way, the second part of my note, how
much longer of notes?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Just the round table?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty well?
Speaker 3: Why because the other half of my notes are on
my phone in there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's okay, I got us, Okay, yeah, yeah,
there's not a ton more.
Speaker 3: One thing I was gonna say, if you do find
out who took the shield, that is a short term gain,
big time loss while you're protected for one night, your
ass is.
Speaker 1: Out of here. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. But we
get back to the house and Lisa says, Harry Hamlin
is going to be so impressed.
Speaker 3: Harry fucking Hamlin.
Speaker 1: Who gives a fucking shit about Harry Hamlin? Enough the
Harry Hamlin, no one, what is Harry ham What was
he in?
Speaker 3: La la.
Speaker 1: La law? Let's stop. Ron heads in to talk to
Dorinda and Stephen COLLETTI of One Trehill, and this is
where things get very weird. Ron sits awkwardly says nothing
Stephen Collete of One Treehill and Derinda looking at this
guy in this giant orange shit going how can we
help you? And we get Ron kind of flying off
the handle. But before we get there. We have to
get back to Colton Flop, who says we're going after Ron,
and everyone in the room wants to go Michael, and
Colton instantaneously flips and brings up this Michael vote thing,
and it's just it's odd the way he's playing. Man.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're a trader and someone wants to
put their head out there as the group leader, clearly
we've seen this kind of play out. Someone will always
stick out as the leader. You just let it happen
because the trader doesn't want to become the leader.
Speaker 1: But what invariably happens, and we've seen it with Pete Weber.
The Pete Weber thing was, and not to spoil it
if you haven't seen it, but I'm going to spoil it.
He was doing this, He was whipping up votes. He
had a cult of personality and a following in the house,
which is fine if they're going after the wrong people.
But once they start getting close to you, because invariably
these people that are whipping they can kind of they're
pretty good at the game. They're leading it because they
have a lot of these people. I mean, Tara Lipinski,
she's got no idea, what's going on. Colton at least
is like going after it.
Speaker 3: Look, some human beings want to follow me?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Going to lead? It's fucking exhausting, definitely. Anyways, Uh,
Jam Jam is the best. This is where he goes
used to be scared, and he was like, I was
fucking scared. That's not a fucking scared shit. Do you swim?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I float? He says, I look thinner standing. He's just
full of these one liners. But Rappaport comes in and
he is, to quote Michael Rappaport attacked by Colton. Uh.
The most disappointing person here is Natalie though, because Colton
comes in and or Rappaport comes in, and Colton asks
Rappaport what Alan wears in the turret? Obviously a nothing burger.
Obviously I'm not gonna actually engage with that. And Natalie
is like he was flushed. Guy, I gotta tell everybody here,
ye hear you. Michael Rappaport was flustered at this, this question,
and it's just such a dumb.
Speaker 3: Do you remember season one of Australia, the old English guy.
Speaker 1: With the bad team newspaper boys yell Newsy's oh so
did they yell, they go extra extra.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, he was so bad at the game, but
he made it to the end. He got carried along.
If you remember the old guy, the old guy. Yea,
uh wait a minute, No he didn't, sorry, no he did,
he did. Okay, So there are two old guys. Really
old guy guy bounced, but he he stayed late. The
other guy made it very very far. Okay, so uh no,
he actually made it to the American last season. Sorry,
I'm mixing all my ones.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? All right?
Speaker 3: My point I'm trying to make is Natalie is so
bad at this yeah, that she might just somehow make
it to the end.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so too. She's a
survivor player. She's horrible, but I think that she's going
to go pretty far in this game. So Michael spirals.
He says that he says that he gets that he
flies off the handle, and that he's a slop creature,
and that he offends people, but he knows that when
he's offending people, he's offending people. There's a presence of
mind that he expresses about his condition, and then, without
any irony, says, I have no control over this.
Speaker 3: So this is like somebody who I am.
Speaker 1: This is somebody who's sat on the zooms or sat
in the chair and has a presence and an understanding
about his behavior that he is incapable of stopping.
Speaker 3: So anyways, I don't think he's helped his career on
Bravo be in a talking head with this appearance on him.
Speaker 1: Definitely not. But Colton says, if you're going to come
for me, I'll finish you. Colton, he was eating broccoli
and you asked him what Alan wears in the turret.
He didn't come for you at all. Okay, anyways, let's
get to the roundtable. Canda says, do we want to
address the shouting? And Michael Rappaport has his Spartacus moment.
Now this will end in him being decapitated, but it
is his Spartacus moment. He says, what happened there? What
you heard today, ladies and gentlemen of this court was colluding, conniving,
commiserating Colton and then says those words all start with
a sick.
Speaker 3: Great opening statement, great opening statement.
Speaker 1: So he then puts his foot in his mouth and
he says, no one would be better at keeping a
secret than you, and Colton says, got it there it is.
This was a Michael Scott moment. I think this was
so unbelievably funny. This sequence of Michael Rappaport saying you
would be best to keeping a secret. Colton said, do
you think the twenty nine years of my life were easy?
And him going what, No, I wasn't talking about that,
and Derinda going Michael, come on, I mean this is crazy,
and Johnny Ware.
Speaker 3: Going I'm not out of here.
Speaker 1: Johnny were going, I mean, I can't believe that you
would say something like that, and Michael Rappaport is just going,
what are we talking about closets? I'm not talking about closets.
It was so funny. But Snake pipes up and says,
commiserate means to stick up for somebody. I just have
to put that out there. I don't think it means that.
I think it means it means fast, it means you're commiserating.
You go, I get it, I get it, I go.
What did Rob say it meant sticking up? It definitely
doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3: No, it's to uh feel sympathy or sympathize with someone.
What did he say it ment I'm having daja.
Speaker 1: Here, Robins. Nick Man goes, I gotta stop us. That
fucking word means to stick up for somebody. Okay, I
gotta get that off my chest back.
Speaker 3: I am totally having deja vu. This moment happened to
me before us podcasting about this this word. I am
not kidding. I am having deja right now.
Speaker 1: Dejah Vu is a really surreal experience to go through.
Speaker 3: You were talking about this word. It had something to
do with me writing my script, Chris, and you and
I were talking about this because I was using this word.
Oh my god, remember this when I die something, think
about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a Donnie Darka moment for Pat. A
fucking plane engine is about to fall on us. So
Ron Funches then takes center stage and Derinda speaks on
being accused by Ron and brings up not knowing his family,
and this is where Ron says, I don't give a
fuck about your family, and I don't give a fuck
about you knowing about my family and Ron and the
problem with Ron is that his game is a lot
like the orange duster that he's wearing.
Speaker 3: Loud.
Speaker 1: It's too loud. You're one hundred percent right, I don't
want to know anything about you. I want it to
I want to be pleasant and cordial, and that's it.
I don't want to be impinged by knowing that you
need ivy F, you need money for IVF with your girlfriend.
I don't want to know that I want to kill you.
Speaker 3: I will say this. The guy was supposed to be
gone three fucking banishments ago. He's still sitting there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think if he gets through.
Speaker 3: One more banishment, he's gonna move on.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think so too. I think he's
got one more.
Speaker 3: What he really needs to do is somehow redeem himself
by helping figure out who a trader is.
Speaker 1: That's the only way for him to fix this, and
he's so oh fucking bad that he can't. He's just
gonna keep but taking shots that are right.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. You can still be bad, right. You
don't even need to be good. You just need to
be less bad than everybody else, because everyone else is
equally bad.
Speaker 1: But everybody else is bad. But they're not announcing names.
So if you're not putting people up and you're bad,
you're fine. Ron and Colton are playing the same exact game.
Speaker 3: So we can do you think is the first Trader
to go down? I don't think it will be Rob.
He's just too good. Unless they randomly figure out something.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say in this game. There are these
little slip ups that just turn the tides. But I
would probably say Renna. I probably say Renna, Renna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably say Rinna. And then I really think they're
gonna loop to Renda in as the next Trader.
Speaker 3: What a dumb movie.
Speaker 1: I can see. I just I think I see it.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: The smart money is on Kristen.
Speaker 1: You'd pull her in. I don't know. All right, So
we get back to Michael Rappaport and his comments on
it's his comments on Colton sexuality that Natalie says we
should just vote rapp report off and Eric says that
you distract us all and Michael Rappaport swunks on. He says, uh,
says the guy with the magic years and.
Speaker 3: They're like, what magic is?
Speaker 1: Michael? I mean, come on? He goes, says the guy
with the magic ears. He's going down fighting. He's just
completely helpless. Now now they eliminate him, and he gets
the butthole eyes treatment. You're just too unlikable. People don't
care if you're a trader or a faithful. Now, Kristen
sits down with Eric and Mark, and Kristen's on Colton. Mark.
I don't know how you feel about Mark funny hair,
and he's just he's playing a very passive game. He says,
let's watch Colton, and this guy just goes along with
what everybody's saying. But it looks like Colton's name is
getting around some more, so he's got to watch out.
But we end with Colton zeroing in on Lisa. Renna
being very, very reserved and her if she was a
faithful she would be mixing it up. She would be
in these meetings, she would be talking to people more.
And Renna can't do this.
Speaker 3: Here's the hilarious part. Candice tips her off in the tour,
you need to start talking more, which would be so
funny because if she comes back and starts yapping it up,
that's a tell too. Yep.
Speaker 1: I honestly think Renna is fucked because she's gonna come
back and she's gonna start trying to whip votes. And
we already saw it. She tried earlier, she was like
the poor thing. She's like I think it's wrong, and
Kristen's like why and she's like, I have I can't
do this, Harry Hamblin, I cannot go around pitching peoples.
Get in the comments on of somebo you thought about
the episode. We'll be back this weekend with episode six
Haunted House, Pooky House, Buggy House. Until then, we love
you very much. I'm Dylan saying goodbye, Pat, say goodbye.
Speaker 3: Me down into the
Speaker 1: Fires