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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everyone, It is time for full

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court press. Sorry we're a minute or two late. We're

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fixing some audio issues behind the scenes, but I believe

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we've got it all set now and we have a

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very very small slate to talk about today. So we

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are going to do what we did last week on Monday,

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and we're going to go to Tuesday to kick off

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the show with pretty much the one game that's got

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a line up for it now and it is easily

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the biggest game of the night on Tuesday's slate. So

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welcome and my co host Rob Vino. Rob Big, big

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game for the Tennessee Valls Thompson Bowling Arena Tuesday night.

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Feels like when they kind of have to have. They've

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got Louisville coming to town slight fit Louisville minus one

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and a half to open. How do you see this one, Louisville, Tennessee,

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big game for the balls.

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Speaker 2: Well this what the Volves have to be happy to

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be back home for starters in five games either on

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the road, true road or neutrals. I don't know how

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close you want to call Bridgestone to being a neutral.

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Knoxville and Nashville really that close, But I guess the

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Illinois game would have favored Tennessee for travelers. But Tennessee,

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like I said, haven't been home in a long time.

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The other side hasn't been on the road other than

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against Arkansas, and they didn't win that game. Arkansas beat

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Louisville eighty nine to eighty. You know, fundamentally out of it. Well,

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let's let's just start with situationally. I do think Tennessee

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the hunger your team at home, slight home dog. I

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think if you were just going to add up situational angles,

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you would come toward Tennessee. Then when you get to

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the matchups on the floor and you realize it's, you know,

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a severe contrast in styles here. We've talked about about

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Pat Kelsey before his career is the same. He's gonna run,

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They're gonna shoot threes. Louisville of their point production comes

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from beyond the arc. That's number ten in the country,

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the tenth most. Tennessee's gonna have to prevent that from

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happening here. But Tennessee likes to go slow and they're

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a huge offensive rebounding teams, So Louisville's gonna have to

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stop that Tennessee is number one in the nation not

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only in offensive rebounding, but in second chance points and

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second chance points. On the defensive side of this, Louisville

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ranks number two thirty two in second chance points allowed.

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So you got big edge for Louisville as far as

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three point shooting is concerned, you got the big edge

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for Tennessee as far as the glass is concerned. On

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their offensive end, Tennessee hasn't taken a taking care of

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the ball. Well, I'll tell you what for me, I'm

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just gonna single out one player here, point guard Tennessee

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Jacoby Gillespie, started his career in Bellmont, went to Maryland.

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When he's right in games that I've seen, take the

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Houston game four instance where Tennessee beat Houston. Tennessee is

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a really good but Gillespie has a tendency to go

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cold from beyond the arc, not make a lot of

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clutch shots that they've been loose with the basketball here,

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and that type of stuff can't happen against Louisville otherwise

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they're going to find themselves in a bad position. I

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think the combination of Gillespie and Ament, who's been really

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good for Tennessee on across the front line. They showed

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they can beat the best of the best, but recently

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it just hasn't been good. And for Louisville, I sort

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of questioned their schedule a little bit. They they've played

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kind of not great teams, but really good teams across

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the board. Here. I think Arkansas may have moved themselves

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up a notch over the course of this last weekend.

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But for me, I'd rather lean to the home team here. Adam,

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you know, Louisville has a lot of three point shooters

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and you're gonna have to protect the arc. But if

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Tennessee doesn't allow this to get up tempo, probably in

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really good shape at home. For those who don't know,

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and you've probably been in this arena, I haven't, but

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it's one of like the ten largest arenas in college basketball.

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So it's gonna be noisy for Louisville. It's gonna be

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a super test against against them, specifically offensively, because if

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they don't play offense, Adam, I don't know that they

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win this game. So I'm gonna lean Tennessee here. On

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the situational, I'm gonna lean Tennessee here, even though they

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haven't put up the kind of numbers were used to

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Rick Barnes teams putting up. So far, their schedule the

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last four games has been pretty intense and it's gonna

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continue to be intense. Only difference is this time they

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get it at home. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I h the only time I've ever been inside Thompson

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Speaker 3: I was in Knoxville for a football game.

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Speaker 1: Had a buddy that went to Tennessee Oregon was in

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town and they were like top five.

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Speaker 3: This has got to be like fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: They It was a huge rainstorm, lightning, the game got delayed.

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Everyone had to evacuate the arena, so we were like

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looking for shelter. We went into tops and Bowling Arena.

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We run into Tobias Harris, who's who's there at this time?

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And one of my I was with guys that played

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against him in like the New York State final and

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won because he's from New York and so we were

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like they were like, yo, we're from CBA, and he

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just goes, yo, fuck CVA and then walked away. That's

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my Tobias Harris story. That's my Thompson Bowling Arena story.

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It is massive, like we you know, obviously there was

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no game, but we got to you know, got to

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hang out in there. But that is the one time

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I've been in there. I will get back for a

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basketball game at some point.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: I did get to see Tennessee play in person the

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other day they were up here in Syracuse. I felt

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like Syracuse did a tremendous job defending Galepsie and and

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really took Tennessee out of what they wanted to do.

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Obviously pulled the upset in that game. The one thing

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I'll say is though, and this is this is my

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so I kind of have concerns for both sides in

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this game.

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Speaker 3: My concern with Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: You talked about gelepsy being right, Okay, he really hasn't

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been against good competition.

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Speaker 3: That that's my concern.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the one game that Tennessee can sort

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of hang their hat on right now is the Houston game.

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But you gotta really look at like situationally, like what

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that Vegas tournament was, so like that Tennessee Houston game,

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I believe came on the heels of Houston going to

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overtime with Syracuse, very grueling game for them. Tennessee got

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to run Rutgers out by thirty the day before, so

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like and I also think Tennessee and Houston are very similar,

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like the way they want to play, so I thought

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it was a good matchup for them. But like outs,

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Gilepsi's good game, Gelepsi's good games are Northern Kentucky, North Florida, Rice,

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Tennessee State, and Rutgers. What really hasn't been you know,

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didn't play great against Mercer, who I actually kind of

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liked that Mercer team this year for for what conference

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they're in. And then you know Illinois, Syracuse, KU, Kansas,

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and Houston not I guess the Houston game he had

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twenty two points, still went five or sixteen from the field,

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like six for twenty against Illinois.

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Speaker 3: That's not very good.

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Speaker 1: Five for twelve against Syracuse, five for nineteen against Kansas.

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And then you talk about a man again, he's another

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one where couldn't do anything against QS. You know, nine

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points on one for eight shooting against Houston, did nothing

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in the Illinois game like that is that is kind

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of my concern for Tennessee is that they don't have

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enough scoring to beat some of these better teams that

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they're playing now. My concern for the Louisville side is

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something that you mentioned. They shoot a lot of threes,

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and you know you talk about I was on Arkansas

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in the game that they went to Arkansas. That game

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was actually that finals closer than it was. I felt

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like Arkansas just had them. I never was even like

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remotely concerned that Arkansas wasn't going to win that game.

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It was like clear from the outset that they just

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weren't going to be able to go there bombs away

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from three and beat that team, you know, amazing the

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other So if you look at like when they've gone

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on the road this year, you know that Cincinnati game

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wasn't necessarily easy for Louisville and they ended up pulling

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it out by ten, but it wasn't really like an

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easy game. I felt like Cincinnati sort of played them

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pretty good, and that Cincinnati team is not very good,

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like they've they've shown us that to this point. So

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it's like last two games for Louisville, they were able

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to sort of do what they wanted from three. They

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crush Memphis, they beat Indiana, but like Tennessee will give them,

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it's not just going to be easy to get off

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clean looks from three against Tennessee. That's the one thing

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about Tennessee, very very good defensive team. They're going to

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force Louisville into tough shots. Would that put like? As

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I talk about it, I kind of am making a

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case for the under here. I feel like, I don't

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know if I could pick a side, but I certainly

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think scoring could be a little bit tougher in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. And I think the reason why,

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the reason why I wanted to put this whole game

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for the Tennessee side on Jacoby Gillespie is because last year,

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when you had Ziggler and those guys, you knew the

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backcourt was steady for Tennessee. It just doesn't seem and

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it is a great divide, right. You mentioned the first

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five games of the year where they were playing lousy

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competition and it looked great, and then these last five

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games that we've all paid attention to from Thanksgiving on

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because their higher profile games, you see that this could

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be a problem. He was not great at Maryland last year.

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It's almost like he was a star at Belmont, stepped

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up in class, hasn't been an elite point guard. I

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think ze Guy Ziggler wasn't e leite point guard. So

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for Tennessee, they're gonna have to get something there. Felix

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might be able to make a lot of their a

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lot of their separation or whatever. If they get a

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lead in this game. It's gonna be tough for Louisville

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on that end. But it is a difficult game, Adam.

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I think that, you know, the situationals might add up

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to Tennessee, but boil boy, if Louisville does hit a

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few threas, it's going to be because Tennessee doesn't really

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shoot three pointers that well. You can't trade threes for

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twos and Louisville can get to the free throw line,

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and the point spread is going to be in that

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one point area. For a reason, it's a difficult game

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to call him. Maybe the under what are we looking

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at here? Anyway, we were looking at uh as far

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as the total might be concerned, looks like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have this, so we have a one

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fifty seven and a half at DK.

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Speaker 3: They also have Louisville minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I felt like the spreads Yeah, the total

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definitely sounds high.

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Speaker 3: I felt like the spread was fair.

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Speaker 1: I made it like one point seven five, so pretty

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much right in line with my number. But it felt

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high to me because I really think Tennessee's got to

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clamp down defensively if they want to have any shot

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at winning this game, and you have to, they have

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to force Louisville in the tough threes. And if they

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do that, though, Louisville's offense can run a little stagnant.

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So again, that would be that that's the best thing

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a Tuesday game. But yeah, one fifty seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's that's a key point too, that you

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know I should have played when I talk about styles.

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In contrast, Tennessee will slow them down in their home arena.

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I mean, Louisville is not going to be able to

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run play ninety four foot basketball this entire game like

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they want to. So one fifty seven and a half

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for the time being, and we'll move on. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, CBA Albany over half Hollow Hills West in the

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twenty ten New York State Class Double A championship game

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and I didn't. I didn't go to CBA Albany, but

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my friends did. And I was just trying to say,

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what's up to Tobias Harris. I was like a fan.

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He was just basically like, yeah, you know, we're all set.

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I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask real quick if is CBA the Christian

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Brothers Academy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of them. So there's the one

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my friends went to was the the Albany one. There's

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a CBA Syracuse. Great rob This is a great transition,

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great transition right here because CBA Syracuse and Syracuse legend

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Greg Paulis is on the card today and he is

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out in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: And I gotta say, like, I think Greg.

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Speaker 1: Paulis is an awesome coach, and he just does not

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have a Division one roster this year. This has been

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an issue since he's got there. If you are not

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familiar with where Lewiston, New York is, probably the toughest

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place to recruit to in the country. I can't understand.

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I don't know why anyone, why anyone would want to

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live in Niagara Falls, New York. Sorry, It's just like

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there's three hundred and sixty five Division one college basketball schools,

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and three hundred and sixty of them are probably in

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a more favorable location than Niagara. The reason I bring

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that up, Rob is he's managed to find these like

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Needle and the Haystack type players that go unnoticed, and

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he always seems to do more with less. That's what

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I said about Paulas since he got there, he does

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more with less. This year just doesn't have much talent

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on the roster. I think this will probably be the

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worst team he's had at Niagara.

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Speaker 3: Now, do you want to lay thirty? I don't know. VC.

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You might be a little upset about that lost to

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New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: So I'll answer whatever you were gonna ask about CBA already.

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But I felt like a great point to transition to

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CBA legend, Greg Paulus and Niagara in our next game.

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Speaker 2: You actually transition into a couple of things that get

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into get a little personal with me. CBA Syracuse is

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the one my brother in law went to. That's why

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I asked him it was Christian Brothers Academy, not all

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me and Niagara. Who would want to go to Niagara well,

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it just so happens, and I'll probably outdate every single

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person watching us here. But obviously Niagara famous for Calvin

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Murphy in the late sixties who finished second to Pete

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Maravich in the scoring title great NBA player, Houston Rockets broadcaster.

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Younger people probably know him more as a Houston Rockets

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announcement anything else. From my hometown in Norwalk, Connecticut. So

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that's one of our claims to fame back in Fairfield

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County is Calvin Murphy, who actually came to our high

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school one time and with his Rockets, you know, warm

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ups on and played a game against a set of teachers.

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But let's get back to this real quick. Obviously, again

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contrast in styles, right, I mean, Paul is his team.

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They have no choice but to play the way that

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they do, which is crawl, try and make it a

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high fifties, low sixties game and see if we can

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pull something out, maybe have a hot shooting night, et cetera.

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It could work in conference a couple of times this year.

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It probably doesn't work against VCU and Phil Martelli who's

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still trying to establish something here. Obviously, Greyhound style pace.

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They did lose to New Mexico, So there's some coaching,

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some teaching moments he can have and practice. Yere, I

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would think that at the outset of this game, it

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might be a little much for Niagara to handle. First

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half line here, bet up from seventeen to eighteen and

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a half. Could you see DCU, you know, forty three

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twenty four at halftime? Yeah, it's it's plausible for sure.

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Could you see the game getting over sixty seven and

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a half in the first half. VCU is going to

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do the bulk of the scoring. I can't lay this

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number at him because I just don't do it on

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a regular basis just a thing of mine that I

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won't lay this many points because if VCU doesn't take

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the last eight minutes of the game. Seriously, sometimes you

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can't hold that margin or create that margin, So tough

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to lay it. If you're going to lay it, the

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recommendation would be first half when they probably come out

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of the gates firing and Niagara going to be unable

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to play their slow pace for the majority of the

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game in this gym. Yeah, difficult game for me just

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because I don't deal in numbers this big. But if

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I was gonna recommend something. It would be VCU first half.

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And I think the loss to New Mexico probably does

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add little fuel to the fire. If they beat New Mexico,

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maybe we would be on nag or here taking the bunch.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you right now. I mean where this

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open and where it is now you're looking at. I

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mean it's up to thirty two and a half open

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At twenty nine and a half, my number was more

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in line with the open. Like that's not enough value

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for me to want to like take the thirty two

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and a half. But I will what I will say

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about Paulus, Like I remember him coming into the to

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the dome and like hanging around and covering a number

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a couple of years ago, Like he he doesn't he's

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not gonna let his team quit now. Like you know,

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I was at a I think that I was at

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a Niagara Saint Bonaventer game.

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Speaker 3: At Niagara.

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Speaker 1: They were all like it was a sellout because they

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don't get to host the bombies very often. It's a

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couple of years back when when Saint Bonaventu was really

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good and Saint Bonaventu destroyed them, and like I sat

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right behind the Niagara bench and he he was still

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just he coached all forty minutes and it was like,

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you know, those are the types of things where you're

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talking about catching thirty thirty one, thirty two points, like

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knowing that they're not gonna quit on him. Is I

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guess something you want to know when you're talking about

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a thirty two point dog. But to me, this year,

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this year, this Niagara team is just so like not

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Division one caliber really some of their law I mean

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you talk about like teams that they've played in Division

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one this year, like lost to Lemoyne, lost to Howard,

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lost to Morgan State over the weekend. I mean, those

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are those are teams that most MAC schools are going

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to win those types of games.

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Speaker 3: Lost lost to Detroit at home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like that Detroit team, But still I

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think Niagara is a slight favorite there. And then in

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Mac play, just destroyed by Sianna, destroyed by Saint Peter's

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eighty three fifty four and seventy one forty three in

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games that they were fine playing slower.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing. It's like if those teams.

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Speaker 1: Are running you out like that and VCU decides that

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they're a little pissed off from the New Mexico results.

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That's tough, man, I slick Vick says, I could see

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VCU up twenty two at halftime.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Maybe you go with Rob's VCU.

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Speaker 1: First half angle for like a half unit and if

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it doesn't get there, come over with the full unit

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on the second half, because I think VCU will run out.

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They're gonna dominate one half of this game. I just

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don't know which one it is. All right, let's continue through.

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We'll probably get to all of them. But I will

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go off of like what people are talking about in

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the comments. But yeah, we probably will get to not

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many games today, but this might be the smallest slate

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so far of the year, but one people seem to

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be talking about, which is interesting. And also, I'm guessing

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someone is out. Wafford's going to go to Gardner Web,

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and I have a feeling this move to Wafford means

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someone is out for Gardner Web. The other reason I

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said say that is someone I know that that BET's

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primarily off of injury News played the I think over

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in this one, So that's you know, that is a

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It's a sign to me that says someone out is

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probably out for Guarded Web. Now my question to you,

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Rob is does any does Gardner Web have someone on

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their roster that's worth three points?

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Speaker 3: My gut says no. And you know what, the last

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couple of times.

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Speaker 1: They've played, they hung around with Georgia Southern and they

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beat a non board team. Now this is a Guarded

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Web team that lost to something called North Greenville, which

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is not a Division one team and also was blown

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out in every single game pretty much prior to that

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Georgia Southern game. There's no way I can lay eleven

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and a half on the road with Wafford. But I

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also don't know if I can. I don't know if

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I have any desire to take those points either. So

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anything for your hear Wafford Gardner.

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Speaker 2: Web, Yeah, you know what? For me, I think the

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look has to be toward the over in this game,

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Gardner Web for what it's worth. And you see this

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looks like a like a swack chart, a swack team chart.

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When you pull up Gardner Web, Run Run, Run, can't

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make a shot right, You're gonna get plenty of possessions here,

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But does anything go in the hoop where Gardner Web

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is concerned. The scores have been, you know, relatively high,

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the final scores, so obviously there's enough chances in a

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game despite their lousy shooting, to get games up and

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over the total. Here we're looking at a number I

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don't know. The vicinity here is kind of tough, at

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one fifty six and a half. Like you say, it's

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been bet up about a point and a half. Not

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really sure you know what the best bet. As I'm

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going through numbers here real quick out and to see

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where we are with currents, I think that the play

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might be to go to the Wafford team total. To

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answer your question, is there anybody on Gardner webworth three points? No,

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those types of moves are reserved for you know, power

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conference teams, sometimes a little more than three, but basically

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not reserved for mid majors unless there's an elite superstar down.

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And this is probably a low major. But eighty two

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and a half looks low to me for the Wafford side. Obviously,

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Gardner Web's gonna run and they give it up. They don't.

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Not only don't they shoot, but they don't play much

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defense either. Points allowed in games against team they give

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up one oh seven to Queens, which isn't necessarily a

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higher tempo team, but they are a team that shoots

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it pretty well. Georgia Southern eighty four there, I would

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think eighty two and a half. I would isolate this

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to just the team total. I don't want to depend

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on new Web racing up and down the floor, missing

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a shot or turning it over, et cetera, et cetera.

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So let the side go, Let the full game total go.

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I would say Wafford over the over the number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Wafford's an interesting case because they had the

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whole thing with their coach, who I believe ended up

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getting fired like right before the season. But they're they're

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still like a fair amount of talent on their roster.

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So it's like I almost looked at Wafford as like

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undervalued coming into the year because I didn't really think

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the coach thing mattered all that much. I felt like

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they still had like better players than they were maybe

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getting credit for. And I think for the most part,

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they you know, there's they're six and four. They they

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come in with a nice win over in Milwaukee, kind

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of beat the teams that they were supposed to beat. Now,

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this is very interesting because I went to a Wafford

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Elon game two years ago down to Elon, and Wafford

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really struggled with the Elon zone in that game.

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Speaker 3: Now that was that was? It was last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was last year because Matthew Van Coleman was

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still on the team. They really struggled with Elon zone.

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Interestingly enough, they got bombed by Elon last time out

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too and scored fifty two points. And I have a

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feeling it's because Elon just it's a bad matchup for them.

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They extend their zone and I'm just gonna pull up

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the stats from that game real quick. Yeah, Wafford seven

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for thirty two from three, and it's basically all they

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could could shoot.

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Speaker 3: It's all they they could shoot in that game.

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Speaker 1: They're a little undersized, so they got out rebounded by

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Elon big time. Couldn't make a shot. So I think

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that's a little deceiving. That's probably a bad matchup for Wafford.

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Now a couple of years in a row, Garter Web's

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not gonna be able to do that. Defensively, Gardner Web's

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not gonna be with out rebound Wafford. Gardner Webb's one

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of the worst rebounding teams in the country. So and

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Garter Web turns it over a ton, which is gonna

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lead to runouts and what Wafford would want to do

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scoring wise. So I kind of think you're onto something there,

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Watford team. You said team total over is what you like, Rob.

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Speaker 2: I would lean towards eighty two and a half going over. Yeah,

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I'm just looking here at him. Last game, neither Jefferson,

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Clark or Peterson played, but none of those guys factor

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into primary minutes for the Gardner Web squad. So you

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got three reserves that were out last game. I don't

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know if the reserves are injury enough to push the number,

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but certainly, you know, seventy seven to sixty three over

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Brevard Bravard. If we say the European way indicates that

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they're a little bit depth shy, and if they're death shy,

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here more even more of a lean towards the over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say the over is what ticked

475
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720
up in this one. I would very much agree with that.

476
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:53,759
This feels like there's gonna be points. It feels like

477
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:55,599
a get out of hand, and if it gets out

478
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000
of hand, you'll you'll probably get help from Gardner Web too,

479
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,599
like if it ends up being like if it ends

480
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,240
up trending in the direction the market is trending in

481
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,359
where Wofford's up ten fifteen points, I could see this

482
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,759
one just like going off the rails a ton of

483
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,519
second half points and you get and you get there

484
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:13,240
either way. But I like your look at the Wafford team.

485
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:15,519
What Watford's definitely gonna score here. So I think that

486
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:19,720
that's a really good look. Okay, I'll give out I'll

487
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,319
give out a best bet. I'll give out my leg

488
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,720
of the parlay. Let's go you know what, Rob, since

489
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,359
we're since we're chasing a couple of units on the parlay. Now,

490
00:25:28,599 --> 00:25:30,519
let let's and it's a small slate. Let's go with

491
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:32,640
a two teamer. Let's let's because there's only two of

492
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,880
us on the show, let's go two team. Or we'll

493
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,599
see if we can hit.

494
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: It's hard enough to hit a two team or we're

495
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,200
trying to hit three teamers, so we'll try a two team.

496
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,759
Speaker 1: Or today, my leg of the parlay three percent play

497
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,799
for my clients is going to be Houston Christian They

498
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,920
are at home playing McNee State I gave out plus fifteen,

499
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160
uh and the reason I want to. So we'll call

500
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,519
this a little Adam trigger system play, if you will,

501
00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:01,359
because I'm going into this like I want to fade

502
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,599
McNeice when they go on the road in conference play

503
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,759
against teams that I think are capable. That we did

504
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,559
this a couple of weeks ago. I actually gave it

505
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:12,359
out on this show. They went on the road to

506
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,079
increnit Word and they lost that game outright as an

507
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,880
eleven point favorite, they lost to increnit Word. Now, the

508
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,400
teams that I have on my list here as potential

509
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,400
spots to do this, there's like eight of them.

510
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: So I have increnet Word, which has already happened. That

511
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,480
was a win. It's only come out up one time

512
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:31,839
so far.

513
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,799
Speaker 1: So it's one to zero Steven f Austin, ut Rio,

514
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,920
Grand Valley, Houston, Christian New Orleans, Southeast Louisiana, Lamar and

515
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,799
Nichols Nickels State or I guess we're just calling it

516
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,559
Nichols now. But either way, I think those eight teams

517
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:49,359
are at least capable enough to play a good game

518
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,680
on their home floor. Why am I looking at this

519
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960
as kind of like you know I want to attack

520
00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:58,119
this sort of spot because I don't think McNeese State

521
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359
is as good as they were last year, but I

522
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,079
think they are still superior to the rest of the league.

523
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,039
They're still elite in the context of the Southland, and

524
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,759
they're still going to get priced like they did last

525
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,559
year in all of these games. Bill Armstrong great coach.

526
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:13,960
I'm sure he's going to be able to sort of

527
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240
carry the torch, but he's not well wide. I don't

528
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,759
know if this team has quite the talent they did

529
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,279
last year with Wade. And while I still think they're

530
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,400
a very good team, we've seen that so far. Asking

531
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,680
them to go on the road and lay fifteen or

532
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,680
huge numbers in what is going to be every Southland

533
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,119
team super Bowl is going to be very, very difficult

534
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,240
to do and cover those big numbers at home. They're

535
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,160
going to destroy teams like they crushed Tech, East Texas

536
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,079
A and M Who's Bad on Friday, they crush Northwestern State,

537
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:52,559
Who's bad. Those teams, if you've noticed, are not on

538
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:54,960
my list of teams I'd be willing to go to

539
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:58,240
war with rob and they crush both of those teams.

540
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,200
Houston Christian I actually don't mind what I've seen out

541
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,759
of them. They've been competitive in most of the games

542
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,079
that they should be competitive in, and again it's a

543
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,839
small gym. I expect them to have a decent crowd.

544
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,359
And I'm more or less just saying that I don't

545
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,119
agree with the massive premium that's being attached to McNeice

546
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:24,640
on the road now that it's no longer will wide McNeice. So,

547
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,319
Houston Christian beat a good New Orleans team the other day,

548
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:30,039
went on the road and won that game. They played

549
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,519
North Texas in the super pit in Denton to a

550
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,799
two point final. Again, I just think they're capable enough

551
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,119
to hang around and keep this interesting. I don't know

552
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,960
if they'll pull an Increnet Word and win ROB, but

553
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,359
I definitely think they could keep it competitive. So I

554
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,160
took the fifteen points with Houston Christian today.

555
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just real quick as you were talking to

556
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640
because I know when BP was on the other day,

557
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,519
we were talking about the South play and maybe having

558
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:03,240
some teams that could push MacNeice. Obviously, Incarnate Word has

559
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,000
already beat them. I had mentioned Houston Christian at the time,

560
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,400
and it's based off of some of the results against

561
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,799
UC San Diego. They only lost by eighteen on the road,

562
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:17,359
and you're getting fifteen and a half here. Some of

563
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,000
these results somewhat leads me to believe that this team

564
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:25,759
right now by odds makers is still undervalued, like the

565
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,240
power rating hasn't caught up to how good the team is.

566
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,559
And that's the time when you want to take advantage

567
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,240
of a team like this that kind of flies under

568
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:36,200
the radar. Houston Christian not much emphasis placed on them

569
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,640
by odds makers, so you may be getting them at

570
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,119
a good price. When conference play took over here, you know,

571
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,519
you beat New Orleans, like you mentioned, you play sde

572
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:51,400
Louisiana to an overtime contest, and prior to that, again,

573
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,079
you know, playing North Texas isn't the easiest thing to do.

574
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,279
That style is difficult. You only lose by two to them.

575
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:00,559
I don't know. The plus points here make a lot

576
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:05,559
of sense. And what completely makes sense is the fact

577
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920
that McNeice was a much better well, I don't want

578
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,279
to say I'm much better, but with Will Wade as

579
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,440
head coach, we kind of knew Will Wade was the

580
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,839
guy who would want to put his foot on the

581
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:19,359
throat of the opponents. We don't know that as much

582
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,839
about it. Will Wade was looking to get back into

583
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,359
into Power five basketball as a head coach and he

584
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,839
was gonna make his mark by beating Southland teams by

585
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,359
thirty And we don't know that we have that here

586
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,559
this year. So Houston Christian, not that you need my

587
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160
stamp of approval, but I'm happy to ride with that

588
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,640
as half of our parlay here. So let's go HCU.

589
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,039
Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Armshark took his whole starting five out

590
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,440
the other day, like was pissed off, right like, So

591
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,240
that's to me, that's like I still think they're I

592
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,960
mean again, are they the best team in the south Land. Yeah,

593
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Like they're probably gonna win the league. They may they

594
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,319
may only lose another, you know, maybe one more league

595
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,640
game all year, who knows. And they're not going to

596
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680
lose at home, probably not. It would take a lot

597
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,920
for them to lose I think on their home floor.

598
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,079
But when they go to these like, it's gonna be

599
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,440
a good environment. Small gym got to get down there.

600
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,759
It is a tiny gym. They're at Houston Christian. I

601
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,759
think you gotta like, I think you gotta like their

602
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,240
chances to at least be competitive. You know, you lose

603
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,880
by ten, you still easily cover that fifteen point spread.

604
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,400
So yeah, that'll be my that's a that's a three

605
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880
percent play for me. That'll be my leg of the parlay.

606
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: Rob.

607
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I will give you the floor in a little bit,

608
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,240
but I want to I guess I want to just

609
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,359
transition to another game that I have my eye on.

610
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: That's sort of if it.

611
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:44,839
Speaker 1: If it gets back to the number I want, this

612
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,200
will likely be a second client play for me.

613
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: And that is our favorite Increnet word. I you, I

614
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,240
believe it.

615
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: The Cardinal Cardinals maybe, but they they step out of

616
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,680
conference tonight is a big underdog head over to.

617
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: TCU and.

618
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Interesting matchup because it's like, you know, they're a big

619
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,319
underdog out of conference. You know that they probably will

620
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,200
get up for playing a big name team. But man,

621
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,920
TCU has some talented guards that defend really hard, and

622
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,519
I'm wondering if that might be a little too much

623
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:20,240
for uiw here. So anything on this one for you?

624
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,640
Incarnet word TCU horned frogs.

625
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at it earlier this morning, and again

626
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,400
where TCU is concerned, it's the defensive side of what

627
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,000
Jamie Dixon. It looks like an improved defensive team. Jamie

628
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,440
Dixon's team kind of went away from his pit identity

629
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640
the last couple of years. They've been a team that's

630
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,519
been caught up in higher scoring games. But when I

631
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,480
go back to that Michigan game, and I said it before,

632
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,400
I'll say it again. It was a night where I

633
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,480
texted you and said that Jamie Dixon had a real

634
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,160
plan here, and they've executed it and nobody has held

635
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,359
Michigan this Michigan can score sixty and a half. They

636
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,039
only scored sixty seven for the game against this team.

637
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,880
So defensively, I think it's key to look out for

638
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,960
inside the Big twelve as well, the defensive oriented conference

639
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,960
when we get into conference play, TCU may be a

640
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,519
team that gets involved in a lot of unders. Last

641
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:22,440
game against North Texas played a team that doesn't want

642
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,119
to move up and down the floor. Sixty five to

643
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,039
fifty five, low scoring game. Question becomes will they score

644
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,799
enough to cover this kind of number, And perhaps because

645
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,839
of the step down in class for them, they will.

646
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,359
They've actually played a ruthless schedule so far. Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin,

647
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Notre Dame like I say, North Texas style is not easy.

648
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,240
They open the season with that game against New Orleans,

649
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,319
who surprised them, I think right out of the shoot.

650
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,720
But it's been a really tough schedule for TCU. So

651
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:54,799
certainly they are a sharpened ball club right now. And

652
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Incarnate Word might be a little bit out of their

653
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,960
weight class, right, that's what we want to say here,

654
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,279
out of their weight class. I could see, you know,

655
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,039
I'm trying to look at the team total four Incarnate

656
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Word here real quick, because that could be something to

657
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,480
look at with the defensive style of tsues. Incarnate Words number.

658
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,280
Actually it opened sixty nine and has been bent down

659
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,239
to sixty seven and a half. Now there's some sixty

660
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,679
eight and a half's out there. If you are going

661
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,639
to play that undershop, well get the sixty eight and

662
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,000
a half. But I could see TCU holding this team

663
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,159
below sixty eight and a half points tonight for sure.

664
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean here's the thing with Incarnet Word.

665
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: They're I'd be concerned about them on the defensive end,

666
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,320
like being able to get a you know, just get stops.

667
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,719
That that's my concern. I think they've got the firepower

668
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,639
to score some points, but they really have they They

669
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,000
haven't had to play like the crazy schedule where you're

670
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,760
playing like all power conference teams.

671
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:53,639
Speaker 3: You know.

672
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,599
Speaker 1: The only one, the only really power conference team that

673
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,360
they've played so far was Indiana, and it was kind

674
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,440
of like I remember the game.

675
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: It was like a Sunday afternoon.

676
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,119
Speaker 1: It was not like the It was kind of a

677
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:08,159
sleepy spot for Indiana, and they just kind of went

678
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,800
through the motions and you know, won the game by eight,

679
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,239
like it was a sixty nine to sixty one final,

680
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480
and I don't think Indiana was very interested in the game.

681
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,280
The other spot where they went on the road and

682
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
sort of stepped up in class non conference was opening

683
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,719
night of the season at Colorado State and they got

684
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,519
destroyed ninety eight sixty four. That was a very interested

685
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,679
Colorado State team, of course, in their first game of

686
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,559
the season, and they just could not play defense against

687
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,840
that Colorado State team. From the on the other side

688
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,719
of the ball, TCU, man, they have these guards that

689
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,679
will they're in your shorts like on every possession.

690
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 3: They really are like a nuisance. And you know, you have.

691
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Guys like taj s Deaveski who liked to go off

692
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,320
the dribble that might be harder for him to do

693
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,880
in a matchup like this, right, Like, I think a.

694
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: Lot of incredent words.

695
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: Offense is started by his ability to like, you know,

696
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:05,280
dribble and then kick out for a three.

697
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: In credit word, a very good three point shooting team.

698
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know that you can take these

699
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:13,320
TCU guards off the dribble. They're all very like, go

700
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,760
look at what they did to Florida's backcourt, right, Like,

701
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,079
I mean, Florida had real issues trying to you know,

702
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:23,360
dribble and get into the paint with the guards. Of course,

703
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,840
we've talked about Florida's mid major guards this year. It's

704
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,960
probably another reason why. But like that, that's my concern here.

705
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,679
So if it gets back to nineteen where it opened,

706
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,400
I'll have to at least consider it.

707
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,559
Speaker 3: But for right now, it has yet yet to make

708
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:37,960
my card.

709
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,079
Speaker 1: They were very intes that that's one of the more

710
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:47,039
interesting watches for me tonight in my opinion. All right, Rob,

711
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,960
do you know what you want your leg of the

712
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,079
parlay to be or do you is there something? I mean,

713
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:54,840
there's only a couple of games we haven't talked about.

714
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Are you thinking of a game that we've already discussed,

715
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,280
or are you thinking of one we haven't talked about.

716
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: The one that we haven't talked about, Adam and the

717
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Wyoming South Dakota State game, which is gonna be a

718
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,400
really good game. I forget if I use them as

719
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,679
a player in the parlay earlier this year, but I

720
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,639
do know that we talked about them earlier. But it's

721
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:22,159
the tempo change here for Sundance Wicks and his club

722
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,599
that really has caught anybody's eye who's paying attention here

723
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,519
this season. Early on, they're a much quicker basketball team

724
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,519
as far as pace is concerned, and they're a really

725
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:37,519
good shooting team. Now. South Dakota State in the past

726
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,079
was much the same, but under the new head coach here,

727
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,599
Brian Peterson, it just has it's kind of like they've

728
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,800
dialed it down a little bit. Adam. They become more methodical,

729
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,719
like a North Dakota State has been inside the Summit League,

730
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,559
and they're not racking up the huge numbers, and they

731
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,079
did lose a lot of offensive capability as far as

732
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,360
personnel is concerned. So I don't know that I fully

733
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,039
agree with the move towards the full game over, but

734
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:08,960
I do think Wyoming is going to come in here

735
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360
and get their share. We're looking at a team total

736
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,880
of seventy eight and a half here. They just played

737
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,519
South Dakota and got to one oh six. However, South

738
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,320
Dakota is a team that will go is willing to

739
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,599
go up and down the floor with Wyoming, which is

740
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:24,719
why you got that one hundred and eighty five points.

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,239
But ninety three against Dartmouth, one oh one against Denver,

742
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,760
et cetera, et cetera. Down the line, they've been impressive

743
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,639
scoring the basketball. They'll probably take South Dakota State out

744
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,000
of their comfort zone a little bit here because this

745
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,760
is a team that will defensive, rebound, and push immediately,

746
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,719
so it kind of forces pace. And I know I

747
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,920
often say that on the home floor, I expect the

748
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,679
home team to dictate tempo for more than half of

749
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440
the forty minutes here, it might be an even split

750
00:38:56,119 --> 00:39:00,239
twenty twenty eight. Wyomings that different of a team here

751
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,639
for South Dakota State. So for me, it's going to

752
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:05,639
be Wyoming over seventy eight and a half team total.

753
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,920
I think they'll get the seventy nine in this one,

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,679
and hopefully that clicks to the second half of our

755
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,599
parlay here. But Wyoming's been really really impressive, and I'm

756
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,039
interested to see how they do here in the Mountain

757
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,800
West against the Mountain West competition because so far the

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,440
results have been really really good. They've developed a style

759
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,239
and they're sticking to it and they're playing it well.

760
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,639
The shooting, by the way, for this team, for those

761
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,559
who don't know, really good three point shooting team, really

762
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,559
good two point shooting team. A little bit of the

763
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:34,480
defense is picked up as well. I'll be on Wyoming.

764
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the game is not at campus. It's at

765
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,199
the Sanford Pentagon, which probably helps Wyoming. Just to give

766
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719
you more sort of you know, I would say that

767
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,679
that's probably better for Wyoming than going and going to

768
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:51,760
having to play a true road game at campus.

769
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: I got the tournament right. The Summit tournament is held

770
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,320
there in the Pentagon. I think I.

771
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: Believe they play a summit tournament there.

772
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: They have a whole bunch of non conference They pretty

773
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,400
much now are getting some big time non conference games.

774
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,440
I think Mississippi State played a non conference game there

775
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,000
earlier this year. They've been doing it for a couple

776
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:13,679
of years now, so I would say, like, go back

777
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,679
and maybe look at some of the scores in those games.

778
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,480
I don't remember the softness of the rim, but I

779
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,800
remember a couple of years ago, I think Auburn and

780
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,159
Baylor played a pretty high scoring game at Sanford Pentagon.

781
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: So that's where that game will be tonight.

782
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,679
Speaker 1: It's not on campus, it is in suit Falls at

783
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:30,599
the Samford Pentagon.

784
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: And again, though I.

785
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Can't really disagree with that, Wyoming's probably get You know,

786
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,880
the other thing about South Dakota State, I've been down

787
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,400
on them so far this year.

788
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,559
Speaker 3: Now I do think that they're maybe improving a little bit.

789
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Of course, their head coach is now Drake's head coach,

790
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,519
and the new head coach, I believe was from I

791
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,440
think he was an assistant that got elevated to the

792
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,320
head coaching position.

793
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,119
Speaker 3: I'll have that. You'll have to fact check me on that.

794
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,239
But I caught some of South Dakota State.

795
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,639
Speaker 1: In the one tournament they played in over feast week,

796
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:09,400
and they were awful, just horrible against Irvine and against

797
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,000
Utah Valley. Who you know, Wyoming is a step up

798
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,360
in comp that that's kind of the same level of competition,

799
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,679
Like if you want to look at Wyoming levels of

800
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,360
competition for for South Dakota State so far this year,

801
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,239
it would be Northern Iowa who they lost to, It

802
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,559
would be Utah Valley who they lost to got crushed,

803
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,559
and it would be you see Irvine, who they also

804
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,960
lost to and got crushed. If Wyoming is doing the

805
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:39,800
crushing rob they're gonna go over that that number right like,

806
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,440
they're gonna probably score ninety eighty eighty five. So if

807
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,920
that's the case, I think you've got a good one

808
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,960
with the team total.

809
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: And the key is the teams that you've rattled off

810
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
there at. Now, Utah Valley is a pretty efficient team,

811
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,320
but quick check of their schedule shows nobody honestly that

812
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,800
plays at tempo.

813
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, even go to go to that opener. Merrimack plays

814
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,199
as slow as can be. They're just gonna sit in

815
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,039
the zone. So you're right, they haven't seen much of

816
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:11,159
this pace yet this year.

817
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Sixty six points there, Oregon doesn't play with pace. They

818
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,599
got to eighty three. Of course they're a Power five

819
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:20,519
conference team, but it will be interesting to see how

820
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,719
South Dakota State tries to handle this. Like I say,

821
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,440
I do feel like Wyoming can control a little bit

822
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,320
of the pace longer than you would expect. Not a

823
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,840
true road team here, but semi road team to do.

824
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960
So we'll ride that, We'll route for seventy nine points here,

825
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,920
and hopefully we click on a two teamer and get

826
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,920
ourselves back into the plus category.

827
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: All right, we can move along. There is still a

828
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000
couple of games to talk about. I see Bayou popped

829
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,199
into the chat. He's at Alabama A and M. Is

830
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,119
a live home dog tonight. North Alabama has won three

831
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:53,960
in a row, but haven't played in twelve days and

832
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
now play a true road game where Alabama A and

833
00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:02,239
have already beat Charleston Southern. They oh, they have Gramblings,

834
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320
old head coach who brought Grambling to the dance multiple

835
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,840
times in the swack. Well, I'll say like I was,

836
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,039
I was very fortunate to get a win with Coastal

837
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:14,679
Carolina earlier this year against Alabama A and M.

838
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: And they just they hung around there.

839
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: They're very, very scrappy team.

840
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,159
Speaker 3: They made that game really ugly.

841
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: It was a game that I felt like Coastal Carolina

842
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,039
should have destroyed them, and they ended up I kind

843
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:32,440
of got lucky to win by seven. That game was

844
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:34,559
like they came all the way back and cut it

845
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,880
to like one with like two minutes left, and I

846
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,239
won on some free throws there. To Bayou's point, they

847
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,639
don't play They don't play many home games. They don't

848
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:48,000
get many home games. It's one of those swack teams

849
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,079
that's often trying to pay the bills, right Rob. They

850
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:55,159
went to Indiana, they went to Clemson. But you know,

851
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,679
they probably have had more home games than most in

852
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,519
this league. They you know, and they've been good at home.

853
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,880
They knocked off Charleston Southern, that's a nice win. As

854
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,079
by you said, they knocked off linden Wood, and they

855
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:11,760
knocked off Tennessee State. So you know, this is a

856
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,920
team that is let me just checked the standings here.

857
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,239
I believe, yeah, five and zero at home this year,

858
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,159
and I gotta imagine that North Alabama and Alabama A

859
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:23,599
and M is at least a little bit of an

860
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,000
in state, right. I think there's only five D one,

861
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:30,039
maybe five or sixty one Alabama schools, maybe seven, I

862
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:33,800
don't remember, but again, got to be like a little

863
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,480
bit of juice there for Alabama and M.

864
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,159
Speaker 3: So I kind of agree with Bayo.

865
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, the North Alabama side is

866
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,960
the one that I would be more familiar with here,

867
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,159
and because last year they were a team that was

868
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,760
a pretty good bed On, they had the bed On

869
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,159
signal on them for most of the year. They wound

870
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,760
up being a twenty plus win team. I'm forgetting the

871
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,679
exact record, but I know they went into the twenties

872
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,039
and they did a lot of points spread covering. But

873
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,159
to start the season, when I looked at them, you

874
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,039
see three brand new starters on this team. Now, a

875
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:08,480
couple elevated from the program like that. They're not transfers

876
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,320
coming in learning a new system, but they lost key

877
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840
members that could shoot from beyond the arc last year

878
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,719
and this year you look at their three point numbers

879
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,000
and it's just not the same with North Alabama here. Thus,

880
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,440
you know the five and four record. Obviously, there's a

881
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,000
couple of power teams in there, Mississippi State, who I

882
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,199
think we have all come to find out that Mississippi

883
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,880
State and the SEC plays not gonna farewell because Mississippi

884
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,039
State has not done very well so far this season.

885
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:40,440
Clemson they lose to, but other than that, they haven't

886
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360
played a batch of impressive team. San Francisco's in kind

887
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,559
of a down year as well. I just thought that

888
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:48,519
replacing the three guys that were the key cogs last

889
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:51,440
year for the I'm looking right now the twenty four

890
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,159
and eleven team is what they were. But points spread wise,

891
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:59,800
they were absolutely like a money printing machine. I think it.

892
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,960
I thought it was gonna take them a little while

893
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,079
to get rolling here, if in fact they even do

894
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:08,480
get rolling. But as you look through the way they've

895
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:11,519
been shooting this year, it's just not good. And it's

896
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:14,280
nowhere near the level of shooting that they had last year,

897
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,239
especially from three point range. So I could understand. I'm

898
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,760
not as familiar with the Alabama A and M side,

899
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,440
but I could definitely put up a case for fading

900
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:27,880
North Alabama. They're not the team that they were last year.

901
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they literally lost like the best players

902
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,039
in the history of the school. So like that's that's

903
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,400
the thing. I mean, Jacari Lane, Daniel Ortiz, like that

904
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,960
that was the best team Northern Alabama has ever had. Like,

905
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,119
those guys are just not replaceable for a team like that.

906
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,679
So I've so I kind of came into the season

907
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,719
like all right, like they might be a little bit

908
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,280
of a fade. But to by and by you I

909
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,840
see talking about it in the chat, like Tony Tony

910
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,239
puliol is a tremendous coach, he does actually have a

911
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,760
good amount back from last year. So it's like, I

912
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,519
wouldn't be surprised if if he's competitive in the A

913
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,960
SOUN and this team is competitive in the A SUN again.

914
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,840
But the question you have to ask, and this was

915
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,440
at least the case earlier in the year to me,

916
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,000
was how much of a tax are you paying for

917
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:16,599
last year?

918
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Right like?

919
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: They literally had the best team that they've ever had

920
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,719
at that school.

921
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: Now we're nine game, you know, they're nine games into

922
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:23,880
the season.

923
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: I would say that maybe that's you know that that

924
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,719
tax was starting to go away, But then they beat

925
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,639
San Francisco right like, so they go out and they

926
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,920
go on the road and knock off San Francisco has

927
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
like a seventeen point underdog, So I would say the

928
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,519
tax is probably back right like now, and you can

929
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:44,400
see it with the way the market is moving up

930
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,559
from two now to three and a half. So I

931
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,239
really am puzzled here, and this was one I just

932
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
I think you can make cases for both sides.

933
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,039
Speaker 3: I certainly don't.

934
00:47:56,519 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust like I can't trust

935
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,039
the North like that one result against San Francisco does

936
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,880
not have me thinking that this is last year's team.

937
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,559
Speaker 3: But at the same time.

938
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:10,119
Speaker 1: I like Tony Pulil a lot too, and I think

939
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,280
I wouldn't be surprised if he just ends up having

940
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,079
a great team this year with the guys he has,

941
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,480
because he's a really good coach. So that is a

942
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,800
interesting game that doubt I'll I don't think I can

943
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,119
make a bet in that game because there's just two

944
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,159
to me, like, I feel like I can make a

945
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,199
pretty strong case for both sides. But very interesting game

946
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,679
right there.

947
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: You might see some progression out of North Alabama. And

948
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
again the positive that we should paint for them is

949
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:36,639
that it's not like they went out and got transfers

950
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,920
that had to come and fit in. The new players

951
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,320
are from within that were in the system last year.

952
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,119
The problem, the negative I would have with them is

953
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,480
poor shooting on the road just doesn't seem to be

954
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:55,599
a sustainable thing at times. And again, the progression when

955
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:58,559
it comes to a Sun play, the more games these

956
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,639
guys get under their belt, the better the team becomes.

957
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,079
May become mid season I'm thinking a little bit differently.

958
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,960
I'm just looking at their point spread results here, adam

959
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,079
three and three over the course of the last six.

960
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:12,800
But I think if you wanted to shave it down

961
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:16,199
and wanted to see if you were seeing some signs

962
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,360
of progression here out of this team three and one

963
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,480
the last four big Dog cover against Clemson getting twenty

964
00:49:22,519 --> 00:49:24,480
five and a half, lost the game huge, but did

965
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:28,079
get to the number, wind up losing straight up by

966
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,960
fourteen to Chat as an eight and a half point dog,

967
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,599
lose cover against Jacksonville State, generally a good defensive team,

968
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:39,960
and then win against San Francisco as you mentioned, which

969
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,199
is really a surprise five and one over the total

970
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,000
though as far as a team total is concerned, in

971
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:51,400
their last six team totals could be something you might

972
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:57,639
want to start isolating here with this team.

973
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: All right, one more game I believe that we haven't

974
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,079
talked about, and I'm pretty yeah, I'm pretty sure we've

975
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:06,039
got one more game on the board today. That would

976
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:10,320
be Bayou Bett's hometown team, see if he's still in

977
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,519
the chat. That is the Southeast Louisianallians, who I would say,

978
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:20,440
for like, I've been mostly impressed by them, this year.

979
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,599
I mean they hung around with They hung around with

980
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:26,320
a couple of big teams right well, I mean Mississippi

981
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,480
State and Georgia Tech qualify as as big names. I

982
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,239
don't know if either of those teams are very good

983
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,119
this year. They had a really nice win over Navy

984
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,679
that was out in Wilmington as part of an NTE.

985
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,800
That's a very good Navy team this year. And they

986
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,079
won that game, and then they knocked off Houston Christian,

987
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,639
you know, which was again like that was I would

988
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:51,239
say a pretty competitive even matchup. But they went on

989
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,880
the road to knock off Houston Christian over the weekend.

990
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,360
This to me at home, they should crush this team. Now,

991
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,039
it's easy said than done. But like East Texas A

992
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,639
and M there their redeeming quality if they have one

993
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,519
rob is the fact that they'll play like eleven guys

994
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,960
and none of them are really different than the other,

995
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:12,920
Like you know what I mean, they just have bodies.

996
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,440
So it's like, I guess they have depth, but is

997
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,119
it really depth if no one's very good, that's my

998
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,199
that's my question. They got blasted by McNeese State on Friday.

999
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,599
I don't know, my gut, says Southeast Louisiana beats them.

1000
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 3: If they beat them, they probably cover. But I wish

1001
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,920
I had more on this one.

1002
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: That is.

1003
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: That's that's all I got. Do you have anything to

1004
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,480
add to this?

1005
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: Southeast Louiana, Louisiana, Texas A and M, East Texas A

1006
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:43,400
and M. That's a mouthful, thrilling affair. I believe it's

1007
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,840
Ham and Louisiana tonight.

1008
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, really quick. We did talk about East Texas A

1009
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:53,440
and M last week, and I fully remember you saying

1010
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:57,559
that they have eleven interchangeable players. And it was against

1011
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,440
McNeice and they went and got destroyed by thirty. You know,

1012
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,599
they did play Yukon. That would be the only East

1013
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:06,639
Texas A and M game that I have paid attention

1014
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,159
to this season. In that game against Yukon, it's hard

1015
00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:14,880
to gauge. Danny Hurley just spread minutes all over the

1016
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,920
place against them, one by twenty four, kind of got

1017
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,280
off to a sluggish start and then hit the gas

1018
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,400
pedal a little bit to get the separation in the

1019
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,480
second half. But I don't know that it's a game

1020
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:28,000
that Yukon really cared about. They probably could have won

1021
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:31,920
by forty if they wanted to hard to make a

1022
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,920
case for East Texas A and M just based on

1023
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:38,119
result history here. They did be army, one of the

1024
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:42,840
worst teams in college basketball this year, so they got

1025
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,800
that going for them. But again, it's conference on the road,

1026
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,800
and it's a short priced home favor against a team

1027
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,960
that really doesn't have let's call it somewhat of an

1028
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,760
identity other than they play fast, because they do rotate

1029
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,039
a lot of guys in and out their paces up there.

1030
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:03,840
And let's split that up real quick here. I'll make

1031
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,960
this point. We've made it before. Tempo adjusted tempo on

1032
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:13,199
its face value isn't always quite what you think it is.

1033
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,440
If you break it up by average possession lanked at them.

1034
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,599
The East Texas A and M team, they give up

1035
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:23,840
shots extremely quickly, and if Southeast Louisiana wants, in fact

1036
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,679
twenty first fastest in the nation, if Southeast Louisiana wants

1037
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,320
to get into a running match with them, all of

1038
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,639
a sudden, four and a half looks a lot smaller

1039
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:36,440
when the point totals get higher. So we'll see how

1040
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,400
Southeastern Louisiana plays this when they're not generally a fast team,

1041
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:44,039
not generally a good shooting team, but could fall into that.

1042
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:47,519
Sometimes these fall into YMCA style games and you wind

1043
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,480
up with a game that gets up and over the total.

1044
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bayou says, you know.

1045
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,599
Speaker 1: They pointed out they played the Mississippi State game was

1046
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,679
closed throughout like BYU's my Southeast Louisiana guy, Like, I'm

1047
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:02,760
not even and considering a bet for against them without

1048
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,360
checking in with him first. Uh, And my number came

1049
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,000
out right on the nose four and a half. So

1050
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,400
this was this was a pretty easy skip for me.

1051
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,760
But it's also one of those like I know it's

1052
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,760
a short slate today, this would be one of the

1053
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,639
games where it's like, even though my number is right

1054
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:23,639
on the money, I'm pretty confident that Southeast Louisiana wins

1055
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:26,599
this game. Like I don't really want to lay five,

1056
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,719
but I'm pretty confident that they they win. So if

1057
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,159
you really like had to parlay, like if you're like

1058
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:34,679
a part you know you like to do like two

1059
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,039
team moneyline parlay, which it's not really my style, but

1060
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,920
I know some people will do that. I think that

1061
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,639
would be I think you could Southeast Louisiana could be

1062
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:45,280
one of your legs. The problem is I don't know that.

1063
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,719
There's many options to uh.

1064
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: Pair with tonight. Maybe Wyoming.

1065
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:51,639
Speaker 1: That would if if you pinned me down for a

1066
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:54,440
two team money line parlay tonight, that's what it would be.

1067
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,760
Southeast Louisiana, Wyoming.

1068
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1069
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to go like come out and say

1070
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,280
I'm recommending that, but that would be my two team

1071
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,480
moneyline parlay if you forced me to pick one for

1072
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:12,960
Monday night when there's seven games on the board. All right,

1073
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:16,880
we have we managed an hour off of this slate, Rob,

1074
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:18,519
I didn't know if we were going to be able

1075
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:21,039
to do it, but we managed an hour off of

1076
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,599
this slate. Of course, if you missed the beginning of

1077
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:29,239
the show, we already did the full breakdown of Tennessee Louisville,

1078
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,519
which is a game tomorrow, but the goal of that

1079
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,960
was to free up more time to talk about Tuesday games.

1080
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,920
So we won't cover Tennessee Louisville on the show tomorrow,

1081
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:41,920
but we did cover it here and we will clip

1082
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,440
that and make it into its own video which will

1083
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,440
go on the wager Talk YouTube channel. So if you

1084
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:49,840
miss that, check that out at some point today. That

1085
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,360
will likely be up later today. Rob and I are

1086
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,840
going to team or today, so two team parlay. Since

1087
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,880
there's only two of us on the show, let's see

1088
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,320
if we can hit this and get ourselves back into

1089
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,920
the plus.

1090
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,039
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

1091
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:08,639
Speaker 1: Houston Christian plus fifteen. That's a three percent client play

1092
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,400
for me, and Rob is going with Wyoming team total

1093
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,440
over seventy eight and a half. We'll call it plus

1094
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,480
two sixty four odds. I'm sure you can probably do

1095
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:21,599
a little bit better than that if you shop it

1096
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,760
around two minutes left, Rob, you have anything to promote,

1097
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,679
you have anything up on the site for today?

1098
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, real quick? I will say this guy.

1099
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,199
First of all is the full court. There is a

1100
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,440
full court package right three days with the best. I'm

1101
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,360
not sure if it pertains to the show. If it does,

1102
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,760
checkwagertalk dot com for college hoop selections. But again, just

1103
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,159
to go off topic really fast here it is. College

1104
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:51,559
bowl season began on Saturday. There's a bowl special offered

1105
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,280
by wager talk dot com right now. If you're into

1106
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,920
the bowl games, which we'll resume again tomorrow. Had pretty

1107
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,480
good success opening night with the Washington Huskies game. So

1108
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,920
you can pick up a NFL college football, NBA, college basketball,

1109
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,000
all kinds of packages over at wigertalk dot com. Go

1110
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,440
ahead and check it out. Tomorrow will be five dollars Tuesday.

1111
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely five dollars Tuesday tomorrow. I just gave you what'll

1112
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:21,480
likely be my only client. Play in college basketball tonight,

1113
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:24,440
Houston Christian plus fifteen. I may play football. That's where

1114
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,159
I've been winning. Can't win in college basketball for whatever reason,

1115
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:29,280
but I've been hitting the football plays, so you.

1116
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:30,679
Speaker 3: Know, it is what it is.

1117
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll turn at some point, but we're going

1118
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,559
to lean into football right now while they continue to hit.

1119
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,840
Had the bills in the vikings yesterday. It's a nice

1120
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,760
day for me and I may play the Monday night game.

1121
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:41,679
We've reached the end of the show. I hope everyone

1122
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:43,760
has a great day. We will see you guys tomorrow morning,

1123
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,480
ten am. More full court Press. Have a great day, everybody,

