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Our guest today is Daniel Cameron, former Attorney General of
Kentucky and CEO of the seventeen ninety two Exchange, a
nonprofit organization taking on DEI and ESG and all of
those things that have been so nasty in American policy
and policy over the last several years in this country,
particularly as it relates to American corporations and charities. Good day, sir,
Thank you so much for joining us on the Federalist
Radio Hour.
Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3: It's good to be with you and appreciate the opportunity
to talk about seventeen ninety two Exchange and kind of
what's going on right now on the ESG and D landscape.
Speaker 1: As our conversation, of course, could not be more timely
given the new president, if you will, the new sheriff
in town, who is turning back a lot of these
things that you have been fighting for now for a while.
I just wanted to get as we begin our conversation,
get your first take on what has been a very
energetic first week for President Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, as I've done some reading
and heard from folks in the administration talk about it.
I mean, the the phrase, if you will, of flooding
the zone with these executive orders is really quite apt.
I mean, this administration, having been there before, understands the system,
understands the environment, and knows how to move the levers
of government to get things done. And I think you
saw a robust flurry of executive orders in the first
week that, frankly, demonstrate that this administration.
Speaker 2: Knows what it's doing.
Speaker 3: They've been around the block, if you will, and are
taking advantage of the experience that they've had to inform
and execute on things that the American people care about.
I mean, we care about a secure national order, We
care about reducing inflation and making sure that America is
respected again are our adversaries and allies, and we care
about making sure that merit is top of mind when
decisions are being made in terms of hiring and employment standards.
So it very much has been an exciting few days,
particularly for folks that we're rooting for.
Speaker 2: Then candidate Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump and and are certainly now rooting for him as
as President Trump.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's been remarkable to see.
Speaker 3: Again, they talked about in the run up, in particular
during the transition, they talked a lot about.
Speaker 2: Being ready on day one, uh, and we are seeing
the fruits of that.
Speaker 3: We are seeing the fruits of a team that knows
what it's doing, knows what its mission is, and is
not wasting any time. And that's been as an observer,
that's been really really exciting to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. It would seem that
Donald Trump in this administration, they've been thinking about these
things for a while. You know, maybe they knew exactly
what they wanted to do on day one and day two,
and it seems like they are very much, you know,
firing on all cylinders from from day one. What does
that mean ultimately for organizations like yours, the seventeen ninety
two project.
Speaker 2: Well, what it means for seventeen ninety two exchange.
Speaker 3: And you know, we'll get into it a little bit,
but you know, we at at our core, at organization
that wants to make sure corporations get back to focusing
on business and make dicisions based on maximizing the return
on investment to the shareholder and creating good products and
providing good customer service. And in the White House you
now have an administration that believes in that because they
want to restore the promise of two Americans of you know, prosperity,
of wealth, of security, of a better future for our children.
My wife and I McKenzie, we've got we've got two boys,
one's three and ones nine months. We want a future
uh that's better than ours for them.
Speaker 2: And I know there are countless parents across this country
that want that.
Speaker 3: And so it's it's uh, it's been fun to work
at an organization that believes that part of that mission
is to get corporations back to business and not worried
about these extraneous things.
Speaker 2: That the far left will sometimes push on them or
or frankly not sometimes, but have been relentlessly pushing on
our corporations.
Speaker 3: It's nice to have an administration in the White House
that wants that wants our businesses focused on business, that
wants a.
Speaker 2: Country that is greater than it's ever been before.
Speaker 3: It makes our job in one light, that actually makes
our job easier in the sense that we have a
partner in the administration. But equally important to focus on
as well is.
Speaker 2: That the left.
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of like, you know, they you know,
in many ways they've lost the levers of power in Washington,
and so they'll find or try to find other places
in which they can entrench themselves. And I think they're
going to double down in the corporate landscape. I mean,
you've seen Costco this week double and triple and quadruple
down on DEI because you know, so, I do think
there will be you know, some on the left that
will try to entrench themselves in our corporate community.
Speaker 2: And so at seventeen ninety two, although we have.
Speaker 3: A partner in the White House, our work is really
going to ratchet up because we know, again the Left
is going to look for ways outside of government to
push their ideology.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't agree anymore. And I've said it often
on this podcast and elsewhere that like rust and mold
and the left never sleeps, let's face it. And as
you saw, as you mentioned timely, note that COSTCO is
doubling down on its DEI and SESG concepts and policies.
You're going to see more of that. Of course, we've
already seen the so called resistance movement two point zero.
What that finally looks like will know, of course, in
short order. I think we'll know in the coming weeks
and certainly in the coming months. But you know, the
seventeen ninety two exchange is intentional in its name a
seventeen ninety two of course, Kentucky statehood and well you
have the left out of the reigns of power at
the federal government. There's still, as you mentioned, much that
they can do, much that they can disrupt in terms
of their leftist Marxist policies at the state wide level,
and as you said, pushing their narratives and trying to,
you know, infuse these ideas and philosophies into corporate America.
How do you go about fighting against that? What are
the main battle grounds that you're seeing right now in
America today on that front?
Speaker 3: Man, It's a great question, and we know to your
point is that, yeah, the left very much is going
to you know, try to find their sales in a
position outside of government to continue to influence. And you know,
as we think about look, I actually take a step back,
and you know, when it comes to CEOs, I think
if you talk to a lot of CEOs directly, they
would tell you that, man, we wish we could just
focus on business. But for a long time, I mean,
the left has been very methodical and very intentional about Okay,
let's let's let's take over the bureaucracy, let's take over
the academic institutions.
Speaker 2: Let's take over our corporations.
Speaker 3: Because if we if we change those three areas, then
we can capture culture. And they've you know, tried very
hard to do it in the bureaucracy. And you're seeing
President Trump, which I'm grateful for. I mean, he is
really doing everything that he can, along with his team,
to to pluck out those that you know, believe in
this ideology, this far left ideology.
Speaker 2: You see it in our academic institutions.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you know, there was a period of
intense scrutiny and focus on some that we're in academia
that you know, we're trying to push this and at
seventeen ninety two Exchange, we are focused on the corporate sector.
How can we drive corporations to get back to neutral
on a.
Speaker 2: Whole host of issues such as they're focusing on business.
Speaker 3: And the way that we do that is we really
rely on relationships across the ecosystem to ultimately steer corporations
back to neutral. So we will you know, I'm a
former Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and you know,
I have a lot of good relationships across the ag landscape.
I've met other elected leaders as I've ran for governor
in Kentucky in twenty twenty three. So we rely heavily
on those relationships to say, hey, you know, are you
paying attention to what you know Corporation X might be
doing related to you know, One of the things that
I was focused on when I was.
Speaker 2: Attorney general were these big.
Speaker 4: Asset managers, if you will, the Black Streets and the
and others that were saying that they wanted to.
Speaker 2: Ultimately destroy the fossil fuels industry.
Speaker 3: They wanted to get rid of fossil fuels by you know,
twenty thirty or twenty fifty, depending.
Speaker 2: On what day it was.
Speaker 3: And so, being in a state that relied heavily on
coal and natural gas to give us our competitive advantage,
I said, this is absolutely absurd that you would have
asset managers saying that they're going to boycott fossil fuels
because it would hurt the bottom line of Kentucky and
it would hurt our ability to attract businesses into our state.
And so I was the first Attorney general in the
country to say that, hey, if you are a pension member,
a pension board member of state pensions, your focus has
to be on the fiduciary duty and your obligation to
the pension beneficiary, which meant police officers, firefighters, and teachers
making sure that you're increasing the return on investment for them,
not that you're focused on ESG and other woke ideology.
And so I do believe that in my current role
as the CEO of seventeen ninety two Exchange, we've got
to rely on our state officials. You know, you saw
this in Florida, You've seen it in other red states
if you will, that have said, hey, we're not going
to allow for folks to be involved in our pension
systems that are ultimately going to boycott fossil fuels. You've
seen in West Virginia where they divested a lot of
money from from from from black Rock because of their
decision to you know, boycott fossil fuels. You saw You've
seen this in Texas as well, where they've divested from
black Rock as well because of again the boycott on
fossil fuels. And the result of that has been that
there are a lot of climate alliances that have essentially
disintegrated because the Black Rocks, the state streets and other
of these fund managers have said, Okay, this is no
longer profitable for us to go down this road, and
it's receiving a lot of scrutiny such that, you know,
at the beginning of of of last year, there was
an article that said ESG is now a dirty word.
Speaker 2: So we have to.
Speaker 3: Put in place, you know, pressure on asset managers, those
that have influence within our corporations to back away from
this crazy stuff. And so we have to rely on
state officials to do that. We have to rely on
folks that are listening to this podcast. I mean, at
the end of the day, if you go to seventeen
ninety two exchange. You can see on our website we
have databases and we've got what's called our CBR that's
our corporate Bias rating database.
Speaker 2: People consumers can go to there. You know, folks can go.
Speaker 3: To our database and look to determine whether a company
is rated red, yellow or green green obviously being good.
That means that you know, they're not going to they're
not making decisions based on what the human rights campaign
tells them, where they're not making decisions on what the
far left tells them. They're making decisions based upon business.
So you can go in there and see a company
that's green. You can go on there on the flip
side and see a company that's read, and know that
you know there's potential that they might discriminate because you
hold traditional values or they might not be in alignment
with your beliefs, and people make decisions based upon that database.
Speaker 2: You know, I give the example all the time. You know,
my mother.
Speaker 3: Bought us a couple of gift cards, and my wife
and I gift cards, and she bought me a tractor
supply gift card. Because they made a decision and they
were the first to do it to back away from
the human rights campaign and to wind down their DEI policies. So,
you know, that's one way that we are interfacing with
the public to help people make good and informed decisions,
where again, relying on relationships with state officials and frankly,
we want to rely on people within the federal government.
We want to rely on members of the House and
the Senate to hold committee hearings to bring forth conversations
about you know, is a company focused on the bottom line,
Are they focused on making those good products or are
they focused on far left ideology. We want them to
get out of that business, and we want, you know,
to build relationships across the federal government. And again, that's
why it's so exciting to have this new administration in
the White House, because we feel like we're going to
have a partner that wants to help us in that respect.
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Speaker 1: Well, you had mentioned that ESG has now become in
a lot of quarters a dirty word that's taken a
lot of time because for so long the environmental, social
and government governance policies movement, which is basically all about,
you know, a narrative that, as you mentioned, one sector
is evil and really painting with broad brushes and really
pushing this leftist idea of at least their ideas of
what sustainability is and you know, what is right according
to you know, their particular metrics. And what we've learned
over time, of course, is that they were pushing to
you know, de platform companies, corporations that were simply involved
in doing the work that we all depend on the
energy industry, the fossil fuel industry. You know, we've gotten
a better understanding of what it means to impact negatively
impact those industries and what it means to us as consumers,
and what it ultimately means to the progress of humanity,
you know, And they describe these sorts of ideas as
you mentioned, in terms of humanitarian efforts in all of
those sorts of things. But really what it comes down
to is the entities. The firms that are pushing the
ESG movement in America have created a very divisive climate.
You know. They're pushing the critical race theories, They're pushing
the diversity, equity and inclusion stuff that has ripped apart
the fabric of society in so many ways, and that
includes internally in corporations. I think corporations have learned over
the last decade plus in this country of the DEI
ESG movement how toxic it is. Some it will take
a lot longer. But are are you excited to see
tractors supplies some of the things, at least we've heard
at Deer and other manufacturers in this country, all kinds
of different companies that are turning their back on these
ESG DEI models. But are you concerned that they'll just
go underground where the public can't necessarily see the impact.
Speaker 2: Well, let me it's because They're both great questions.
Speaker 3: The first is Matt, I am, and I hope your
listeners are as well. This is is man, if you
think about if you think about the first half of
this decade, and.
Speaker 2: You can really go back to kind of the twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: Timeframe, but if you think about the last five years,
I mean, the left has really tried to press on
corporations and on our culture.
Speaker 2: And you know this this this term had been.
Speaker 3: Coined a long time ago, but you know there's this
silent majority out there, and I think the silent majority
has just said enough is enough. And what you had
over the first you know, roughly five years, is the
Left trying to push and push and push, and.
Speaker 2: The pendulum has just swung too far to the left.
Speaker 3: And folks are like, look, we do not need woke
ideology determining our schools. We don't need woke ideology determining
our gender. We don't need woke ideology determining our southern border.
We don't need woke ideology determining what our corporations focus on.
We need a restoration of American and traditional values. We
need a restoration of the promise of this country, and
we need a restoration.
Speaker 2: Of what I talk about a lot, which.
Speaker 3: Is merit excellence, intelligence, or integrity. Those are we don't
need DEI. We need MEI merit excellence, intelligence, or integrity.
And that should be the focus of our corporations. And
I think largely the American people believe in that. And
to your point, you know, the the these zealous if
you will, or the advocates of ESG and more specifically DEI.
You know, they throw out these these broad terms of versity, equity,
and inclusion. And if you set back as an American, look,
I'm a Christian, and.
Speaker 2: I believe that, you know.
Speaker 3: All of us have a role to plan society, and
all of us have in you know, significance as humans.
Speaker 2: But what diversity equity God.
Speaker 1: And God given rights, I might add, and the blessings
therein of a something that is bigger than ourselves. But yes, no, absolutely,
But but if you look.
Speaker 3: At diversity, equity, inclusion, they say those terms, what it
really means is discrimination, exclusion, and intolerance. Because the left,
if you are a Christian, if you are somebody that
believes in traditional values, if you are somebody that believes
a man is a man and a woman is a woman,
the left will tell you you need to go sit
in a corner. We are ostracizing you, we are marginalizing
you because we don't care about your opinion. And that's
what the left has tried to do. And and you
know again, they start out in flowery language and then
they become harsh and severe such that you know, they
bully people online, They try to force you to hide
your true values and your true beliefs in corporations.
Speaker 2: Now, I think Americans and a lot of this has
been the.
Speaker 3: Focal point of the momentum we've seen behind President Trump,
is that the silent majority is sick of the left
trying to tell you how to feel, trying to tell
you how to think, and they don't want that Orwellian
society anymore. They want to be free thinkers. They want
to say it's okay to have my belief set, it's
okay to have traditional values. And that's what President Trump represents,
and that's what we had seventeen ninety two Exchange try
to represent. And so it's been encouraging to see, you know, again,
the dominoes, if you will, started to fall. The sea
of tractor supply made a very bold and courageous decision
to say that, hey, we're we're not going to sign
any outside surveys related to the Human Rights Campaign. We're
not going to you know, continue to do the DEI policies.
We're just going to focus on business. That was a
smart decision and I applaud How a lot for doing that,
and I've said that repeatedly. And then if you look
since that, I mean, there have been other iconic brands
that have made that decision to wind down DEI policies
or or quit billing out like Human Rights Campaign survey.
You know, there's been Ford Motor Company, there's been Walmart.
I think you just even maybe within the last couple
of days, have seen some other big names fall into
that camp as well, where they're saying we are just
getting back to business. And that is exceedingly I mean
that that is beyond exciting. That is a good step
in the right direction for America. That is restoring the
promise of America. But to your other point, your listeners
seventeen ninety two exchange, We've got to be vigilant because
we don't want these things just to be changes to
the facade of a building. We don't want these things
to just be proclamations or declarations that are made. We
want real substantive change within our corporate communities and across government.
And so, you know, one of the things that I've
and I'm hoping corporations will watch because in a lot
of ways, and it sounds crazy to say, but because
of President Trump and because of it his administration, the
federal government is now becoming the gold.
Speaker 2: Standard for hiring.
Speaker 3: And one of the things that the Trump administration is
focused on is that, hey, we want these DEI departments
shut down, but we also want to know if once
they've been shut down, whether those employees or that ideology
is seeping into other departments within a particular agency. I
think it's really smart for the administration to be vigilant
on that, because that is the worry, is that you
get rid of the facade of DEI and you just
move it around such that it is still in trench
within your organization. Well, we've got to uproot it, We've
got to get it out of there. And that's what
we're trying to do it seventeen ninety two. And I'm
hopeful that because of what the administration is doing, those
within the private sector will be encouraged and emboldened to
uproot it from their organizations as well.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is Daniel Cameron, former Attorney General of
Kentucky and CEO of the seventeen ninety two Exchange, a
nonprofit organization taking on DEI and ESG and American corporations
and charities. Daniel, do you think that companies are getting
rid of this stuff, at least announcing this formally with
plans to uproot within their corporations because it's the right
thing to do ultimately, or because it is the fiscally
responsible thing to do. I mean that by saying, have
they lost a lot of money and a lot of
faith with a lot of consumers in America over the
last several years.
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, there's a couple of different ways to look
at it. You know.
Speaker 3: I think human nature is to be self interested, and
I think you see that, you know, playing out in
the corporate spheres.
Speaker 2: For instance, if you look at the number of pro.
Speaker 3: ESG proposals that are offered during shareholder meetings, those have
dropped precipitously over.
Speaker 2: The last three years. I mean, they kind of hit a.
Speaker 3: They hit a peak, if you will, in twenty twenty one.
But they continue as we continue to see a steady
decline in those proposals, and you see an increase actually
in anti ESG proposals. And so there is that reality
that corporations are saying, hey, we just need to get
out of this. It's smart, it's a smart business decision
to do it. So you got that component, and then
you have the the the anecdotal evidence that it's not
good for corporations to go down this road. Think of
a Target and bud Light. I mean, they are the
prime examples of when you start advertising with Dylan mulvaney
or you know, you start putting tuck friendly bathing suits
in the front of your store. Those two corporations, whether
it is bud Light or Target, lost twenty seven billion
dollars collectively because of the decision that they made to
get go down that road. So you've got anecdotal evidence,
you've got self interest of a corporation that says, hey,
we're starting to take on scrutiny because of these proposals.
And then the final leg is the legal landscape has shifted.
So you look back in the decision that was made
in the fair the Admissions case from the in front
of the United States Supreme Court, which basically said, you
got to get rid of the quotas because they are
discriminatory in the in the public university context. United States
Supreme Court made that decision in the Fair Admissions case.
That was, you know, a landmark decision. And what has
happened subsequent to that is that a lot of legal
scholars have said, Okay, that was the university of public
university contexts, but the rationale, the rationale and the judgment
that was made by the United States Supreme Court in
the university context can be applied to the private sector.
And so a lot of you get inside of a
corporation and how corporations work. You've got a CEO, but
you've got investor relations, you've got human resources, and you've
got a legal department. And legal departments took notice of
that Fair Admissions case, and they're taking notice of what
legal scholars are saying, and a lot of gcs are
advising their CEOs and their boards that we could face
legal exposure if we continue with these policies.
Speaker 1: And they got nervous, didn't they about this affirm that's
the affirmative.
Speaker 2: Action in pros. That's precisely right.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the statement that McDonald's made
a couple of weeks ago, McDonald's made the statement about
winding down their DEI policies, and one of the reasons
that they cited for doing so was the fair Admissions case.
They said, the legal landscape has changed, and we need
to wind down this policy. And I think you'll have
other corporations that will make a decision based on the
legal landscape changing as well. But what I say to
people all the time is I don't care how we
get there. I want to get there. And I think
most Americans want a colorblind society where the focus is
on merit and not on what your skin color is.
Speaker 2: And you want people that.
Speaker 3: Are in a job because they are good at that job,
not there because of what they look like. And that
is again, I think you can treat people well, and
I think it's important for employers to treat people well,
but they don't have to do it based on what
a person looks like.
Speaker 2: They can do it based on.
Speaker 3: What ultimately that employee is bringing to the table in
terms of productivity.
Speaker 2: And they can do it based on this.
Speaker 3: You know what I believe is you know, this this
idea that flows from the Bible, which is that we
are called to be good neighbors, and so you can
do that without having to subscribe to a far lept ideology.
Speaker 1: Well, you come from a different and an interesting perspective.
You know. Let's let's talk about this. You were the
first Black American independently elected the state wide office in
Kentucky's history, and the first Republican elected to the Attorney
General's office since nineteen forty eight. You know, you served
as legal counsel to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. I mean,
you have a great body of experience in this. You
also have a great body of experience and talking to
people in Kentucky, Kentucky politics and the average you know, voter,
the average individual in Kentucky. Are we seeing this movement
against you know, these divisive policies. Are they really starting?
Is that really starting to resonate in the black communities,
in the historic communities and elsewhere?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Look, I think you know, the if I can take
off my objective you know, seventeen ninety two hat and
if I can just say, you know, speaking from a
you know, my past experience. You know, the left has
sold a bill of goods to different communities. You know,
whether it's the Black community or the Hispanic community, they've
sold a bill of goods.
Speaker 2: And what I think, uh, uh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, my community and other you know, communities are starting
to wake up to is that they continue the left
continues to talk the talk, but they never truly you know,
walk the walk and take action on behalf of these communities.
And what now they've done is in many ways, kind
of marginalize the concerns of the Black community and the
Hispanic community and other communities in favor of uh, you know,
saying that that that that men should be allowed to
compete in women's sports.
Speaker 2: I mean that that's what's that's essentially what is hijacked
the left.
Speaker 3: And uh, I think a lot of folks are saying,
wait a minute, this is not what we signed up
for when we you know, gave you know, our you know,
loyalties to the left, or it gave our loyal loyalties
to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: What was that was that?
Speaker 1: Was that the line in the sand? Do you think ultimately?
I mean, there are all kinds of different leftist policies,
of course, but was that the line.
Speaker 3: I think that in conjunction with the fact that you've
got you've had until now, you've had a White House
under President and Biden that was completely inept in focusing
on the big issues you know they're focusing they look,
they had an infrastructure policy that was focused on putting
battery you know, charging stations, you know on every you know,
there are not enough Americans driving you know, battery power
vehicles to be uber or hyper focused on putting charging
stations you know, every fifty miles or so. What people
care about is can they put food on their table
to feed their families. And you had an administration that
was focused in the Biden administration on changing bathrooms as
opposed to like securing our southern border. And what I've
told you know, what I said last week on another show,
is that you know, a DEI Department is not going
to secure your southern border, right. And I think a
lot of and I think a lot of Americans are
waking up to the fact that the far left has
been selling a bill of goods, is focusing on things
that most Americans, you know, frankly, what they care is
not what most Americans care about. Most Americans care about
being secure in their homes, being able to put food
on the table for their families, and making sure that
they have a better future for their kids.
Speaker 2: And the far left is not concerned about any of
those things.
Speaker 3: And I think that particularly communities of color, black folks
and Hispanics and others are now saying, we're tired of
listening to the talk of the left, and we're seeing
President Trump take significant and serious action in getting this
country focus on.
Speaker 2: American priorities.
Speaker 3: And you know, if I take that out and say,
and at seventeen ninety two, again, we want businesses to
focus on business and not these extraneous things, not these
things that don't ultimately matter when it comes to building
and creating good products and providing good customer service. And
so I look, as I often talk about the idea
or fact that like we are. You know, President Trump
said this, we are returning to a golden age, and
it's going to be ushered in by this administration. But
it's also going to be important for you know, seventeen
ninety two exchange the walk right alongside the administration and
helping us get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's about changing hearts and minds ultimately,
and that's organizations like yours can do just that. Now,
as Kentucky's Attorney general, you let a multi state investigation
into Bank of America, City Group, Golden Sacks, JP, Morgan Chase,
all of these big financial institutions, Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo
for ESG related investment practices. Obviously, walk the walk in
your public public service role now you're doing on the
nonprofit side. Final question for you, what is next then
for the seventeen ninety two exchange? What is next for
Daniel Cameron?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think on the seventeen ninety two exchange front,
we're going to continue to look as I talked about earlier,
companies are going to continue to feel the pressure from
the left, and so as an organization that is committed
to making sure or corporations uh return to neutral and
focus on business, we're going to keep We're going to
keep our eye on the ball and that is our mission,
and we're going to work with our We're going to
work with state officials, We're going to work with the
federal government, whether that's uh, you know, the members of
the House or the Senate or the administration. Because we
we believe that ultimately what's what's what's best for America
is a corporate community that is hyper focused on creating
and building good products and not focused on far left
woke ideology.
Speaker 2: So we're going to continue to be do do that.
Speaker 3: We're going to make sure that our databases help inform
customers about, you know, places in the shop, and investors
you know where to uh, you know, place.
Speaker 2: Their money and and that sort of thing. And then
you know, on on.
Speaker 3: On my side, I'm going to continue to serve as
the CEO at seventeen ninety two Exchange, and you know,
we're as the Senate primary or I'm sorry, the twenty
six the race for the Senate here in Kentucky. We're
going to be focused on that as well and see
ultimately how that shakes out. I want to I have
a heart to continue to serve, and I believe in
President Trump. You know, when I ran for attorney general,
he was on board with me and endorsed me in
that race. And when I was running for governor. This
was back in twenty three. I think I was one
of the first statewide officials in the country to endorse
President Trump for reelection when he was starting to run,
and so I've been with him, would love to see
his policies enacted in Washington. And you know, so we're actively,
you know, considering what it looks like is in Kentucky
in that twenty six Senate race.
Speaker 1: I think I'm hearing some things, but you have to
help me out here that does that include a possible
run for US Senate. You've got quite a base of
support obviously in the Bluegrass state, and there are other
opportunities and you know ahead maybe another race for another
run for governor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I you know, as I
look and think about, you know, sort of my past,
and you know how I've supported President Trump, and you know,
I've been grateful for his help in my races and
my deep care. You know, my wife and I care
deeply about the folks in Kentucky and we want to
make sure that you know, President Trump's policies are being
enacted and I think I could be a good articulate
advocate for those things and in the Senate.
Speaker 2: So we you know, are going to be looking very
strongly at that race.
Speaker 1: Well, it is no doubt that you have been a
substantial warrior on the front against these very harmful DEI
and ESG policies at the state level and now at
the corporate level. I want to thank you so much
for joining us, and I wish you the very best
in your work ahead.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, my friend, Matt. It's been fantastic
to be on. Appreciate the time with your listeners.
Speaker 1: Absolutely anytime. Thanks to my guest today, Daniel Cameron, former
Attorney General of Kentucky and CEO of the seventeen ninety
two Exchange, you've been listening to another edition of the
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at
the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then,
stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the Fray.